#Soylent | Logs for 2015-09-06
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[00:38:15] <Gravis> aww man, SN should have included a link to this video when they posted about to Hugo Award deally: https://www.youtube.com
[00:38:16] <Schwifty> ^ 03The Hugo Awards 2015, Nomination Slates Voting No Award - YouTube
[00:38:27] <Gravis> i mean, it really explains what happened
[00:40:28] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: your coverage of the hugo awards deal made it seem like a committee decided there should be no award when in fact it was the populous vote
[00:47:43] <crutchy> the idea of democracy functioning would offend too many people
[00:49:47] <n1> would offend the wrong people perhaps, the rest would prefer we didn't indulge in fantasy about functioning democracy
[00:52:04] <SpallsHurgenson> only if I can be supreme ruling dictator for life.
[00:54:08] <n1> easily done, make sure no one else with credibility can get on the ballot, or just keep having elections until the people vote the right way
[00:54:31] <n1> those strategies have been working pretty well for quite some time now
[00:54:40] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, do I have too? that doesn't sound like much fun. I was gonna use bond supervillian tactics.
[00:54:58] * SpallsHurgenson is already working on gettin' a lair an' minions an' everything!
[00:55:02] <n1> you dont have to, but if you want a mix of fear and respect
[00:55:07] <n1> sham elections are somewhat important
[00:55:17] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, use the force
[00:55:32] <SpallsHurgenson> you don't think a giant volcano lair caved into into the likeness of my face would inspire fear and respect?
[00:55:35] <chromas> crutchy: s/force/Schwartz/
[00:55:36] <exec> <chromas> <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, use the Schwartz
[00:55:38] <n1> or you could use a frontman
[00:55:53] <n1> the one who gets executed when the revolution comes, and you just get to install a new frontman
[00:56:11] <crutchy> like sting?
[00:56:16] <crutchy> or bono?
[00:56:29] <n1> well, if bono can be put in place a week before the revolution
[00:56:31] <n1> that would be great
[00:56:35] <SpallsHurgenson> but... but... my face-lair!
[00:57:07] <crutchy> yeah i'd rather bono be executed before sting
[00:57:11] <n1> i still like sting in The Police, even if that was 30 or so years ago...
[00:57:54] <crutchy> this song is still amazing even now https://www.youtube.com
[00:57:55] <Schwifty> ^ 03The Police - Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic (Digital Remaster 1080p) - YouTube
[00:58:55] <SpallsHurgenson> "Falling Down" is a great movie to watch on a scorching hot day
[00:59:01] <n1> i decided to listen to 'Canary in a Coalmine'
[01:00:00] * n1 googles Falling Down
[01:00:32] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[01:00:33] <SpallsHurgenson> Michael Douglas goes slowly nuts in LA
[01:00:33] <Schwifty> ^ 03The Police - Roxanne - YouTube
[01:00:35] * chromas gives SpallsHurgenson a sad-looking burger
[01:00:42] <crutchy> fuck yeah rooooooxannne!!
[01:00:53] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, chromas knows what I'm talking about
[01:01:29] <SpallsHurgenson> is it wrong that everytime I go into a fast-food joint I think of that scene (and sympathize? :)
[01:02:13] <n1> the mistake you're making is going into fast-food joints
[01:02:29] <SpallsHurgenson> ... without a machine gun :)
[01:03:19] <n1> you're too kind, let them suffer by eating the stuff.
[01:04:31] <crutchy> oh fuck. there was bee gees in the related vids o.O
[01:04:46] <n1> haha
[01:04:52] * crutchy will be playing bee gees songs for the next 3 hours
[01:05:22] <n1> masochism
[01:05:43] <crutchy> bee gees are awesome
[01:06:00] <crutchy> they put modern singers to shame
[01:06:14] <n1> they have their moments, but the idea of 3 hours of them
[01:06:17] <n1> scary
[01:06:17] * SpallsHurgenson sneaks some Bette Middler onto the playlist
[01:06:34] <cmn32840> Holy Shit! The Prodigal Son returns!!!!!
[01:06:48] <cmn32840> n1 how be you?!
[01:06:49] <SpallsHurgenson> Jesus!
[01:06:52] <crutchy> the only other singer that i hold as high as bee gees is brian johnson
[01:07:17] <n1> i'd just rather people stopped ruining good music with their singing.
[01:07:20] <n1> hey cmn32840 :)
[01:07:50] <cmn32840> welcome back to the land of the internet connected
[01:08:32] <n1> appreciated, and i am doing ok thanks
[01:08:35] <n1> how have you been keeping?
[01:09:05] <cmn32840> I been keeping refrigerated mostly.
[01:09:09] <cmn32840> makes me last longer
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[01:10:37] <cmn32840> back in a few. gotta put my midgets to bed
[01:12:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Experimental Unity Game Engine Editor Released for Linux - http://sylnt.us - getting-it-all-together
[01:14:46] * SpallsHurgenson suddenly imagines cmn32840 as father to a bunch of oompa-loompas
[01:15:57] <crutchy> oompa loompas that do all the eating
[01:19:22] <cmn32840> so when we last left our hero, he was headed out on the festival circuit
[01:20:01] <cmn32840> not too far off SpallsHurgenson
[01:20:26] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, story time!
[01:20:39] * SpallsHurgenson hopes the hero rescues the princess by the end
[01:20:47] <crutchy> "Brian Johnson is like fine wine. He gets better with age." <-- so true
[01:22:36] <crutchy> same with james hetfield
[01:22:48] <SpallsHurgenson> and Meatloaf :) :)
[01:27:08] <Deucalion> cmn32840, just got scrollback - what staff list?
[01:27:45] <Deucalion> cmn32840, the MOTD type banner on the server channel?
[01:28:00] <cmn32840> yeah. that one
[01:30:31] <cmn32840> n1 - those two posts put you at 999 stories posted!
[01:31:45] <n1> yup
[01:31:46] <n1> !
[01:31:53] <n1> Flex Labour will be 1000
[01:32:04] <cmn32840> then I shall back out of it and let you ahve all the glory
[01:32:10] <n1> thanks ;)
[01:32:14] <Deucalion> I see xlefay, me, Landon, pj and FunPika - I think there's only myself and pj actively doing anything these days, IRC-wise. That's a short list :( I think sentiment keeps xlefay and Landon on that list :D
[01:32:15] <n1> needed to be something fitting for me lol
[01:32:38] <cmn32840> I think flex labor pretty well describes you
[01:32:57] <cmn32840> Deucalion - your call.
[01:33:23] <cmn32840> I happened to notice it when I was playing around earlier today on the web client
[01:33:23] <Deucalion> I should certainly update it to show Deucalion rather than juggs :)
[01:34:18] <Deucalion> Yeh - I never really see it either - it's there of course but all the channels pop up when I re-connect so I pay little attention to the server channel, thanks for bringing it to my attention
[01:34:51] * n1 was wondering where juggs went
[01:35:11] <cmn32840> he got a reduction and became Deucalion
[01:35:19] <Deucalion> n1, I got tired of the boobie jests and grouped another nick
[01:35:55] <n1> and i read thats a grope...
[01:36:09] <Deucalion> Q.E.D.
[01:36:15] <n1> but still, good to see you still around :)
[01:36:29] <Deucalion> likewise
[01:36:34] <Deucalion> how's business?
[01:38:13] <n1> month behind but finally done the soft launch of the new one this week.
[01:38:49] <n1> between that and i had to relocate, it's been hard to get the motivation to come on here sadly
[01:41:18] <SpallsHurgenson> google's new favicon really annoys me for some reason
[01:41:20] <Deucalion> Such is life - have to get the priorities right
[01:41:35] <Deucalion> What's the new business venture n1?
[01:42:49] <n1> top secret ;)
[01:43:03] <cmn32840> you coudl tell us, but you'ld ahve to kill us?
[01:44:18] <n1> i dont get my hands dirty, but the end result works ;)
[01:44:24] <Deucalion> bleh, looks like I'll have to change the server config file and rehash the daemon, not something I can change via a client.
[01:46:42] <cmn32840> no worries. not exactly gotta happen today
[01:48:43] <cmn32840> extra parts after assembly are normal, right?
[01:49:56] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, it just proves you are more efficient than the guys who engineered the thing :)
[01:50:58] <SpallsHurgenson> http://gizmodo.com someone tell col. oneil, the secret is out!
[01:50:59] <Schwifty> ^ 03Michigan Newspaper Claims the Large Hadron Collider Is Being Used as a "Stargate"
[01:53:02] <SpallsHurgenson> geez... the LHC is a loop that is, like, 4 miles across. That's one big gate.
[01:55:48] <SpallsHurgenson> worse, it's in the hands of the FRENCH
[01:56:15] <crutchy> they just need the 7th sign to make it functional;
[01:57:34] <crutchy> then they'll be able to transport the refugees to crematoria
[02:02:36] <crutchy> ~g'day Bytram
[02:02:37] * exec insatiably hurls a caravan of Debian at Bytram
[02:02:44] <crutchy> o.O
[02:03:00] <Bytram> crutchy: g'day
[02:16:26] <Bytram> ~time x
[02:16:28] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 6 September 2015, 2:16 am
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[02:17:01] <crutchy> ~time-add x bytram's house
[02:17:02] <exec> name "x" set for location "bytram's house"
[02:17:05] <crutchy> ~time x
[02:17:07] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 6 September 2015, 2:17 am
[02:17:12] <crutchy> aw
[02:17:24] <crutchy> ~time-add x boston
[02:17:26] <exec> name "x" set for location "boston"
[02:17:28] <crutchy> ~time x
[02:17:30] <exec> Saturday, 5 September 2015 @ 10:17 pm EDT - Boston, MA, USA
[02:18:29] <Bytram> crutchy: it's kind of an inside joke for me. A popular and inexpensive watch brand here is called "Timex" -- so, "~time x" is of a similar sound, and also tells me what the UTC time is
[02:18:42] <crutchy> ah
[02:18:50] <crutchy> well in that case ~time-del x
[02:18:53] <crutchy> derp
[02:18:58] <crutchy> ~time-del x
[02:18:59] <exec> location "x" deleted
[02:19:01] <Deucalion> ~weather
[02:19:02] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[02:19:18] <Deucalion> ~weather MyPants
[02:19:19] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[02:19:23] <Deucalion> :P
[02:19:43] <crutchy> ~g'day juggs
[02:19:44] * exec accidentally blows a spoon of red cordial at juggs
[02:19:58] <crutchy> i still think of you as juggs :p
[02:20:09] <Deucalion> hola cutchy o/
[02:20:10] <crutchy> though Deucalion is a cool nick
[02:20:43] <Deucalion> Your wife may take umbrage about you think about my juggs - but w/e
[02:20:58] <crutchy> lol nah you're no competition for her. sorry :p
[02:21:18] <crutchy> i'm a slave to her chest
[02:21:28] <Deucalion> no doubt.
[02:22:16] <crutchy> damn headache :<
[02:22:17] <crutchy> brb
[02:23:44] <Deucalion> I stole Deucalion from Vega Strike tbh. Not intentionally, the nick just popped into my head when I was looking to change up, only later it dawned on me why the name was in my head. Funny how things work.
[02:33:59] * Deucalion is about to rehash the ircd - fingers crossed
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[02:39:56] <Bytram> crutchy: an idea for your bot: a count-down timer function. ~in 1h10m5s Bytram: time to check sub queue
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[02:41:43] <crutchy> ~remind
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[02:42:17] <crutchy> ~remind
[02:42:27] <crutchy> :/
[02:42:30] <exec> alias "~remind" requires additional trailing argument
[02:42:39] <arti> looks like you need a reminder
[02:42:50] <crutchy> ~remind df
[02:42:52] <exec> error: incorrect number of parameters
[02:42:52] <exec> syntax: ~remind value min|m|sec|s [optional msg to display]
[02:43:14] <crutchy> ~remind 10 sec fart
[02:43:15] <exec> *** reminder set for crutchy: fart
[02:43:25] <exec> *** reminder for crutchy: fart
[02:44:01] <crutchy> Bytram, is that sorta thing what you were thinking? ^
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[02:44:38] <Bytram> hmm, yeah! I think so!
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[02:45:12] <Bytram> ~remind 6 min check hof stats
[02:45:13] <exec> *** reminder set for Bytram: check hof stats
[02:46:08] <Deucalion> cmn32840, does the new MOTD suit your sensibilities? Who knew one needs to specify /rehash motd rather than expect a /rehash to act as a /rehash *
[02:46:37] <Deucalion> I learned something new today... life is therefore good
[02:46:50] <cmn32840> you learned somethign new? you get to go home!
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[02:47:23] <Deucalion> I have been home for a long time.... come on in, everyone is welcome.
[02:47:34] <cmn32840> Retired? Nice touch. :-)
[02:48:32] <Deucalion> I couldn't bring myself to remove xlefay and Landon. Call me a sentimental old git, I won't care :P
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[02:50:12] * SpallsHurgenson calls Deucalion a sentimental old git
[02:50:29] <crutchy> s/git/mercurial/
[02:51:13] <exec> *** reminder for Bytram: check hof stats
[02:51:16] <cmn32840> I can't fault for wanting to tribute to those who were here at the begining. they were instrumental in making it all go
[02:51:36] <crutchy> ~define hof
[02:51:38] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03hof: Hall of Famer. Being on an internal work emailing list since the 2nd Feb 2004, and never having been asked to stop receiving emails up to 400 times a day.
[02:51:57] <crutchy> ~define the hoff
[02:52:00] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03The+Hoff: There aren't any definitions for The+Hoff yet. Can you define it?
[02:52:06] <crutchy> o.O
[02:52:57] <SpallsHurgenson> isn't The Hoff the greatest singer and actor the world has ever seen, at least according to the Germans?
[02:53:40] <crutchy> he's up there with bruce schneier and chuck norris
[02:54:11] <crutchy> he can make love to a woman just by looking at her
[02:54:31] <SpallsHurgenson> puh-lease; the Hoff kick's norris's cowboy ass! I mean, the Hoff's best friends are boobalicious women and a talking car!
[02:54:48] <crutchy> he has an army of howitzers
[02:55:24] <crutchy> s/howitzers/haaarrooooghhitzers/
[02:55:25] <exec> <crutchy> he has an army of haaarrooooghhitzers
[02:55:51] <crutchy> though to be fair a lot of them are fake :/
[02:56:15] * crutchy prefers natural forward artillery
[02:59:07] <arti> shoot and scoot
[02:59:51] <SpallsHurgenson> howitzers do 2d6 damage to all units in the target hex and all six surrounding hexes!
[02:59:57] <Bytram> https://j.ludost.net
[02:59:58] <Schwifty> ^ 03RFC-2631, fips 186-3 and openssl's implementation of DSAappear broken (and possibly backdoored) | ___
[03:05:05] <cmn32840> ~gnight bytram!
[03:05:06] * exec suspiciously cracks open a buzz saw of $insert_beverage_here for bytram!
[03:05:24] <Bytram> g'night cmn32840
[03:05:36] * SpallsHurgenson learned the hard way never to consume buzz saws as a late-night beverages... it does terrible things to the innards
[03:10:28] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I only apply buzz-saws topically these days
[03:13:08] <SpallsHurgenson> good god... finally a place with worse drivers than LA http://www.slate.com
[03:13:08] <Schwifty> ^ 03Why drivers in China intentionally kill the pedestrians they hit: Chinas laws have encouraged the hit to kill phenomenon.
[03:13:12] <crutchy> apparently yo mama uses a buzz saw on her tama lama ding dong
[03:13:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux Foundation Giving Away Chromebooks - http://sylnt.us - there-has-to-be-a-catch
[03:14:56] <SpallsHurgenson> "give away"? you have to buy into their courses.
[03:16:26] * Deucalion scoffs some tapas and taps out for the night. Be well and be good to one another. Peace.
[03:17:32] <SpallsHurgenson> "Be excellent to one another"
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[03:42:23] <swiss> gross
[03:42:36] <swiss> i like tapas
[03:42:45] * cmn32840 gets out the Febreeze
[03:43:58] <Ethanol-fueled> wanna drink, too tired to though.
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[04:52:00] <chromas> Subsentient++
[04:52:00] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 39
[05:45:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California News Photographers Want to Keep Their Drones - http://sylnt.us - a-picture-is-worth-a-thousand-words
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[12:50:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Dawning of the Age of Flex Labor - http://sylnt.us - you-can-start-tomorrow...-and-finish-next-friday
[15:22:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Comcast is Changing Tactics in Response to Cord Cutters - http://sylnt.us - why-cable-companies-are-so-hated
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[17:54:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Role Model' Bhutan Takes Zen Approach to Climate Change - http://sylnt.us
[17:56:48] <takyon> anyone having trouble connecting
[18:26:06] <mythterj> Yup.
[18:26:56] <mythterj> Site seems to deliver blank pages, and a refresh (or two) will eventually deliver the complete page.
[18:40:05] <n1> i still havn't had an issue and ive been furiously clicking around
[19:05:24] <takyon> still happening an hour and a half after I noticed it
[19:08:36] <takyon> took like 4 tries to post a comment on your journal
[19:23:43] <arti> marklar
[19:25:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Astronomers Detect the Farthest Galaxy Yet With Keck Telescope - http://sylnt.us - that's-a-long-way...
[19:37:58] <arti> http://imgur.com
[19:37:58] <Schwifty> ^ 03The Head of Franz Kafka by David Černý in Prague. - GIF on Imgur
[20:12:15] <n1> thats quite cool
[20:12:28] <arti> yeah, artwork++
[20:20:24] <n1> not sure i'd be a fan of looking out the office window and seeing it every day though
[20:35:41] cmn32840 is now known as cmn32480|away
[20:36:51] <n1> http://www.boilingfrogspost.com
[20:36:52] <Schwifty> ^ 03BFP Exclusive Report- A Distillation of DOD Funding Priorities for August 2015
[20:38:58] <n1> DoD spent $80m on clothes last month apparently.
[20:43:11] <n1> but i guess thats a saving of $20m or so over the $102m they spent the month before.
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[22:24:32] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:24:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1631
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[22:42:48] <Tachyon_> https://soylentnews.org
[22:42:48] <Schwifty> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[22:42:52] <Tachyon_> this doesn't work?
[22:43:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> I've had occasional problems today with the site not loading.
[22:44:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> Give it a couple of minutes and try again.
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[22:53:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Soylent news is a blank page.
[22:54:41] Ethanol-fueled is now known as SoyGuest63106
[22:54:55] <SoyGuest63106> any schedules maintenance going on or sumthin?
[22:55:06] SoyGuest63106 is now known as Ethanol-fooled
[22:56:10] <chromas> Don't think so, but we've had a few reports
[23:00:41] <takyon> yeah
[23:01:02] <takyon> it's been happening for hours
[23:16:04] <Ethanol-fooled> W-what'll I do to PASS THE TIME?
[23:16:11] <Ethanol-fooled> Oh yeah...troll #Soylent
[23:16:13] <Ethanol-fooled> Bahaha
[23:16:49] <mythterj> With enough refreshes(reloads) you finally get a page load. But posting is almost impossible.
[23:16:57] <Ethanol-fooled> damn, that sucks.
[23:17:52] <Ethanol-fooled> I just hit F5 like 25 times in a row without a single load. I doubt it'll be back up until it's back up.
[23:17:55] <chromas> Ethanol-fooled: you could hack on your bot
[23:18:48] <Ethanol-fooled> the novelty of it wore off, chromas.
[23:19:04] <Ethanol-fooled> I'm just going to be lazy for now.
[23:19:43] <n1> this is really strange, ive not had one failed page load today
[23:19:44] <chromas> maybe a new soylent theme
[23:19:49] <n1> :|
[23:19:57] <Ethanol-fooled> what would be some good ideas for a soylent theme?
[23:20:08] <chromas> beer theme
[23:20:16] <Ethanol-fooled> So, yellows and browns?
[23:20:29] <Ethanol-fooled> Maybe a wood plank pattern and a dartboard?
[23:21:01] <n1> that could be quite nice
[23:24:32] <Ethanol-fooled> On a trollish note, more multiculturalism is coming to Europe! Aren't you all excited?
[23:24:58] <Ethanol-fooled> Europe must be progressive to, er, progress.
[23:25:35] <mythterj> Yeah, I was wondering just how long the "welcome mat" will be out, after they all get undated...
[23:26:37] <mythterj> I also noticed that images of refugee crouds are almost completely male (military age), with some childred, and relativly few women.
[23:27:58] <Ethanol-fooled> Yep, things are gonna get interesting.
[23:28:31] <n1> things already are interesting
[23:28:35] <Ethanol-fooled> And as usual the media is doing an excellent job of rallying people to the charity cause and utterly ignoring populist anger.
[23:28:43] <Ethanol-fooled> So progressive!
[23:28:52] <n1> to be fair, theyve been going with the populist anger all year
[23:29:00] <n1> it's only the last week they changed the tone, with the pic of the dead kid
[23:29:09] <n1> next week it will be back to anger
[23:29:31] <n1> why cant they stay where we're bombing them and/or propping up dictators damn it?
[23:30:10] <Ethanol-fooled> Yeah, that's one thing that's kind of hard to find...where is the anger at America for all this?
[23:30:20] <mythterj> Still you have to wonder why so few women...
[23:30:40] <Ethanol-fooled> mytherj, they should allow only single women to seek refugee status.
[23:31:06] <mythterj> We've already taken in 12 million refugies, but just give it time, I'm sure we will take more.
[23:31:45] <n1> i wouldnt trust the media for shit when showing whats actually going on
[23:32:24] <Ethanol-fooled> Yeah, I sure don't.
[23:32:31] <n1> so i wouldn't take the gender ratio too seriously, although there probably is more men than women, the men may be seen as more likely to survive the journey, get a job when they arrive to then bring the rest of the family back
[23:32:46] <n1> and the men are probably being pushed into joining one of the half dozen militant factions in the area theyve come from
[23:33:26] <mythterj> So leave the women behind for the militants? Seems odd.
[23:33:54] <n1> it depends how they're getting out, this is not a simple situation
[23:34:59] <n1> there are going to be lots of variations on the hows and the whys, people are coming from several countries with varying degrees of conflict and poverty through various different methods
[23:35:27] <Ethanol-fooled> But this problem was caused by meddling in the Middle East. Meddling that should have been avoided.
[23:35:36] <mythterj> Most of these are from aledgedly from a refugee camp in northern seria that just skedaddled over the border in mass.
[23:36:02] <n1> quite right, and that meddling goes back 100 years, but we're doing the best we can to avoid even linking this to the fallout from the most recent iraq war
[23:36:04] <mythterj> I'm amazed how deep into central europe they got before the press got wind of it.
[23:36:07] <Ethanol-fooled> And they can't settle in just any country...it MUST be the UK, Germany, or Sweden.
[23:36:40] <n1> people are doing what they think is best for them
[23:36:52] <n1> and if they're being chased out of hungary, greece and italy etc
[23:36:57] <n1> but wont get chased out of germany, uk etc
[23:37:04] <Ethanol-fooled> YET, n1. YET.
[23:37:06] <Ethanol-fooled> Bahahahaah
[23:37:08] <n1> then why wouldn't they keep moving
[23:37:16] <n1> the only solution, to stop people coming here
[23:37:19] <n1> is to make it worse for everyone
[23:37:43] <n1> im not up for that, lets fuck ourselves over, build a big ass fence around the country and start an even bigger papers please big brother society
[23:37:46] <n1> sounds fucking beautiful
[23:37:46] <Ethanol-fooled> Well, I think not turning their countries into rubble and incubating radical terrorism would possibly help more in the long-term.
[23:38:18] <n1> but i think thats actually what this is being used for, an excuse to ramp up the police state to new levels of insanity
[23:38:50] <Ethanol-fooled> n1, I kinda think so. There's an obvious agenda here. And everywhere else it's happening.
[23:39:13] <n1> "Former CIA director David Petraeus is advocating giving arms to members of al-Nusra Front, an al-Qaida off-shoot, to beat Isis. "
[23:39:35] <Ethanol-fooled> Another thing I considered is that it would be some kind of economic reset, to lower the wages and standards of living for everybody else all for the purpose of keeping the economic-voodoo gravy-train a-rollin'.
[23:39:39] <n1> wasn't it just in 2012 that AQinIraq was the solution to the Assad problem?
[23:39:52] <mythterj> Kinda reminds me of when a bazillion kids from south america suddenly flooded into the US. There is something driving it which the press isn't covering.
[23:40:05] <n1> the 'de facto state in eastern syria' would be good to isolate assad or whatever that shit was.
[23:40:10] <n1> mythterj, decades of propaganda
[23:40:16] <n1> about how awesome we are, how much freedom we have
[23:40:34] <n1> powerhouse economies, with jobs for everyone who's willing to work hard
[23:40:48] <n1> material wealth, healthcare
[23:41:30] <Ethanol-fooled> possibly with the endgame of a form of slavery-lite.
[23:41:40] <n1> look at all that military hardware we've been parading infront of them for decades, we clearly dont mind splashing the cash on multimillion dollar everything military
[23:41:53] <n1> so imagine how much we spend on freedom and all that jazz
[23:42:08] <n1> Ethanol-fooled, pretty much my thoughts.
[23:43:01] <Ethanol-fooled> And divided societies are less likely to get together and rise up against the real injustice.
[23:43:12] <n1> yup
[23:43:13] <mythterj> My worry is that a great deal if ISIS is milling about in that herd of mostly males... Nobody is checking.
[23:43:15] <Ethanol-fooled> The "divide and conquer" trick is working wonderfully in the U.S. politically.
[23:43:25] <Ethanol-fooled> mytherj, you can count on it.
[23:43:27] <n1> mythterj, they probably are
[23:43:35] <n1> but then the CIA, MI6 etc are also milling in those crowds
[23:43:40] <n1> so i'm sure it'll work out....
[23:44:51] <n1> considering how serious the terrorism is in the conflict areas, it's amazing the ones that make it here, which we are told number in the hundreds or thousands
[23:44:56] <n1> cant fight their way out of a wet paper bag
[23:45:29] <n1> and when they do something, they're very respectful and understand we can only handle one event every 2 or 3 years
[23:46:34] <n1> if the terrorists are winning, whatever that means, it's because the governments and media in the west eat up every little bit of PR they put out.
[23:49:08] <Ethanol-fooled> when people give up their liberties everytime a terrorist attack happens, that is when the terrorists win.
[23:49:18] <n1> NATO vs Assad .... Assad vs. ISIS ... NATO vs, ISIS ... Assad vs. Kurds ... ISIS vs. Kurds ... Turkey vs. Kurds ... Russia vs. ISIS ... NATO vs. Russia
[23:49:19] <Ethanol-fooled> http://www.danielpipes.org
[23:49:20] <Schwifty> ^ 03Interview with Mohammed Al Khilewi: "Saudi Arabia Is Trying to Kill Me" :: Daniel Pipes
[23:49:33] <n1> i believe is the current state of affairs in Syria anyway
[23:49:45] <Ethanol-fooled> Huh, that's interesting -- I didn't know that Saudi Arabia was preparing for war with Yemein in 1994 to distract the population from the country's problems.
[23:50:07] <n1> 20 years later
[23:50:09] <n1> little has changed....
[23:51:17] <mythterj> I wonder what the situation in Syria would be today if someone had taken Assad out 10 years ago when this all started..
[23:51:22] <n1> the people give up their liberties willingly, because of the threat presented by the gov and media, who are only interested in selling fear to maintain their power.
[23:51:29] <mythterj> More like Lebanon I suspect.
[23:51:32] <n1> wonder what the situation would be in iraq if someone had taken out saddam 10 years ago...
[23:51:34] <n1> oh wait...
[23:52:31] <n1> mission accomplished and all that, good times.
[23:55:09] <n1> maybe in another few years we'll be able to look back at Libya as a success.
[23:55:20] <n1> Stranger things have happened.
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[23:59:39] <Ethanol-fooled> Allright, SN is working again.