#Soylent | Logs for 2015-09-04

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[00:04:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Slowing Wind Energy Production Suffers From Lack of Wind - http://sylnt.us - eat-more-beans!
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[00:41:02] <SpallsHurgenson> some idiot is using all my bandwidth!
[00:43:26] <takyon> wut
[00:44:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> SpallsHurgenson: time to turn those Linux ISO torrents off.
[00:45:36] <SpallsHurgenson> but ubuntu needs me!
[00:50:07] * SpallsHurgenson feels obligated to help a multi-million dollar corporation by letting them use my bandwidth :)
[00:53:47] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[00:53:48] <Schwifty> ^ 03The iPhone's Creepy New Male Siri (iPhone 6s / 7 Commercial Parody) - YouTube
[00:57:18] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, you negelcted to
[00:57:22] <Deucalion> pfft
[00:57:33] <SpallsHurgenson> you should always pfft
[00:57:39] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, you neglected to update the "Updated" date on the beg-o-meter :P
[00:58:25] <Deucalion> Evening Mr Spalls, how's things?
[00:59:57] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[01:00:04] <Schwifty> ^ 03Alligator Snapping Turtle vs Common Snapping Turtle - YouTube
[01:00:05] <SpallsHurgenson> I am never ever going into a lake again
[01:01:24] <SpallsHurgenson> then again... https://www.youtube.com
[01:01:25] <Deucalion> Were you planning to before seeing that?
[01:01:26] <Schwifty> ^ 03Incredible Moment fishermen Rescue Two Kittens From a River | Gone Cat-Fishing on The Warrior River - YouTube
[01:06:43] <SpallsHurgenson> btw, people who abandon housepets in the wilderness need to be... to be... to have something nasty done to them, that's for sure
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[01:29:28] <Bytram> !uid
[01:29:28] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5849, owned by Myrddin Wyllt
[01:36:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why We Need a Legal Definition of Artificial Intelligence - http://sylnt.us - but-first-we-need-a-definition-of-genuine-intelligence
[01:37:51] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[01:40:09] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently there is no weather in boston
[01:40:21] <SpallsHurgenson> perhaps there is no boston...
[01:40:27] <Bytram> I don't know weather or not I should be relieved
[01:41:09] <Bytram> that would be sad... no more Boston Baked Beans, Boston Creme Pie (Yum!), Boston Red Sox, etc.
[01:41:36] <Bytram> btw, who in their right mind would name a sports team after the color of their *socks* ??
[01:42:00] <SpallsHurgenson> on the plus side, no more Bostonians :) :) :)
[01:52:30] <Bytram> that would be a loss for drivers everywhere who want to test their driving skills among those whose basic premise is "Get There FIRST!"
[01:54:37] <takyon> http://www.marketplace.org
[01:54:37] <Schwifty> ^ 03Why we cried when Steve Jobs died | Marketplace.org
[01:54:46] <takyon> had to post that just from seeing the headline
[01:56:25] <SpallsHurgenson> "When Apple founder and CEO Steve Jobs died in 2011, filmmaker Alex Gibney was struck by the global outpouring of grief that followed."
[01:56:28] <SpallsHurgenson> Ummm...
[01:57:08] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I see... he's got a new movie out
[01:57:16] <Bytram> takyon: good discussion; heard it on the radio.
[01:59:36] <takyon> job bless steve god
[02:02:04] * SpallsHurgenson mutters about how the arrangement of walls and power outlets in his home makes it impossible to place wifi extenders efficiently
[02:03:04] <SpallsHurgenson> its like they didn't consider wifi at all when they built this place!
[02:04:24] <Bytram> cat 5e ftw?
[02:05:19] <SpallsHurgenson> oddly enough, my smartphone doesn't have an ethernet jack :)
[02:05:42] <SpallsHurgenson> at least, I don't think it does...
[02:06:05] * SpallsHurgenson tries jamming a cat5 cable into the back of his phone... maybe if I use a hammer?
[02:11:15] <Deucalion> It's not helped by some dry-wall / plasterboard panels being foil backed. That stuff seems to kill wifi dead. I'll leave aside the complete inability to block sound properties of modern building materials for another rant.
[02:11:48] * SpallsHurgenson thinks its all the lead-lined pipes :)
[02:12:01] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, would one of those homeplug / ethernet over power type solutions work?
[02:12:42] <Bytram> afk biab
[02:12:45] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:12:46] <Schwifty> ^ 03Huge, absorbent iPad rumours recycled - and this time it's REAL. True • The Register
[02:13:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I've even less confidence in the quality of the ELECTRICAL wiring here :)
[02:14:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, put your router in your attic. run another plug up there if you have to.
[02:14:14] <SpallsHurgenson> no attic :)
[02:14:34] <SpallsHurgenson> just thick concrete and steel walls :)
[02:14:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> so not a house then
[02:14:59] <SpallsHurgenson> nuclear missile silo :)
[02:15:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, just put all the stuff in the main chamber then
[02:17:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> or drop down to 802.11b. much better wall penetration than the higher frequency standards.
[02:17:32] <Deucalion> might be at risk of blast damage there TheMightyBuzzard should he choose to launch....
[02:17:38] <takyon> aren't those things supposed to "drop down" automatically
[02:17:50] <Deucalion> pfft
[02:18:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> launch first. there's bound to be something needs blowed up.
[02:18:35] <SpallsHurgenson> might also have something to do with the other 200 wifi networks in the area :)
[02:18:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that could do it
[02:18:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why you put dd-wrt on it and crank the hell out of the wattage
[02:19:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> legality be damned
[02:20:22] <SpallsHurgenson> its getting to the point I'd probably be better off just putting routers in each room and running lots of wires everywhere
[02:20:47] <SpallsHurgenson> because if the problem is too many wifi networks in conflict, obviously the answer is to add more wifi!
[02:21:01] <Bytram> surface-mount power lines and ethernet cables to the ceilings and put a wireless router in every room!
[02:21:09] <Bytram> ninjad
[02:21:28] <SpallsHurgenson> but that still doesn't help with the outlet issue :)
[02:21:38] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: oh wait, maybe you were talking about standards?
[02:22:08] <Bytram> surface-mount POWER LINES and ethernet cables to the ceilings
[02:22:24] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, I don't think that would fly :)
[02:22:26] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: are you in the US? 110V?
[02:22:38] <takyon> tether it to your phone
[02:22:53] <Bytram> well of course, silly, you gotta *fasten* the surface mount to the ceilings!
[02:23:44] <Bytram> hmm, how about your floors? do you have a full basement? if so, you could run the cabling *underneath* and then pop up where you need 'em!
[02:24:14] <SpallsHurgenson> no basement :)
[02:24:20] * Bytram spent a summer working as an electrician's helper; installed lots of power lines in both old and new construction
[02:24:22] <SpallsHurgenson> well, there is a basement but that's where I keep the morlocks
[02:24:23] <Bytram> bummer!
[02:24:29] <Deucalion> Suspended floors? i.e joists and floorboards?
[02:24:31] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:24:31] <Bytram> lol
[02:24:31] <Schwifty> ^ 03Pwn2Own Tokyo hacking contest trashed, US export rules blamed • The Register
[02:25:02] <SpallsHurgenson> just assume solid steel-reinforced concrete throughout :)
[02:25:03] <Bytram> prolly concrete, I'd bet!
[02:25:10] <Bytram> bingo!
[02:25:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> awesome, you can just run conduit and put wires wherever you want then.
[02:25:53] <SpallsHurgenson> no, I probably can't :)
[02:26:06] * Bytram prepares the air compressor and goes looking for a jackhammer
[02:26:37] <Bytram> so, single story, concrete basement, and NO attic?
[02:26:41] <SpallsHurgenson> at most I can hide it beneath the carpet :)
[02:27:01] <Deucalion> How does one run new conduit runs through already laid reinforced concrete slabs..... perhaps their is some tiny unobtanium tipped moling device for such things...
[02:27:12] <Deucalion> there*
[02:27:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, you don't, you drill into the concrete and surface mount the conduit.
[02:27:43] <SpallsHurgenson> gotta be careful drilling through the concrete; don't wanna weaken the walls so much that the morlocks can break through :)
[02:28:02] <Bytram> hmmm, do you have base boards (runs along the bottom of the walls and butts against the floor)?
[02:28:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, you said butts
[02:28:29] <Bytram> could run ethernet right atop the baseboards
[02:28:37] <Bytram> Phhhbt!
[02:28:41] <SpallsHurgenson> already done that :)
[02:28:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I just dont want to have to do it to EVERY room
[02:28:56] <Bytram> so, what's the problem then?
[02:29:01] <Bytram> wimp!
[02:29:03] <Deucalion> Aye, in that situation I would be running mini-conduit just above skirting boards, or routing out the back of the skirting boards to form a channel for cables if their depth allowed.
[02:29:05] <Bytram> =)
[02:29:07] <SpallsHurgenson> and it still doesnt help with the outlet issue :)
[02:29:31] <Bytram> hmmm, how *thick* are the baseboards?
[02:29:34] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[02:29:35] <Schwifty> ^ 03Next Big Future: Phagraphene, a 'relative' of graphene, discovered
[02:29:54] <Deucalion> s/skirting boards/base boards .... separated by a common language :P
[02:29:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I dunno, does six-inch steel plate sound unlikely?
[02:30:06] <Bytram> ouch.
[02:30:13] <Bytram> not wood then?
[02:30:26] <SpallsHurgenson> morlocks, remember? :)
[02:30:36] <Bytram> You ARE living in a bunker!
[02:30:53] * Deucalion thinks SpallsHurgenson is living on an abandoned soviet nuclear sub at this point
[02:31:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i'd still run conduit along the corners of the ceiling
[02:31:07] <SpallsHurgenson> but seriously... I /could/ wire up the place and put serparate routers in each room... but I'd rather not. :)
[02:31:24] <Bytram> Might still work... get wooden baseboards, use a router and cut a channel on the backside to run the ethernet cable, and mount that on top of the existing metal ones?
[02:31:32] <Bytram> yeah, understood.
[02:31:59] <Bytram> btw, could prolly do the same for the power lines, too.
[02:32:49] <Deucalion> ethernet and power running parallel in the same conduit?
[02:33:13] <Bytram> parallel channels
[02:34:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, yeah, 60hz isn't gonna cause significant interference on cat 5e
[02:34:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you go running a blender on it maybe
[02:34:30] <Bytram> by rights, the twisted pairs should not care about the 60Hz
[02:34:56] <Deucalion> could also use STP I guess
[02:35:07] <Bytram> hmm? true that.
[02:35:35] <Deucalion> I've not seen STP in use for a very long time
[02:36:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't get the throughput on stp that you can on regular old cat 5e. more noise for some reason.
[02:36:36] * SpallsHurgenson mutters, "what the hell did I just download a 58gb installation file for if the damn setup program is just gonna download it all again?!?"
[02:37:11] <Bytram> me neither. but seriously, the UTP should prolly be okay; the signals on the ethernet are at such a different frequency that there should be no real interference
[02:38:46] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, probably down to people attaching the shield at both ends causing an earth potential difference i.e. current in the shield
[02:38:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely
[02:39:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> good ole ground loops
[02:39:44] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:39:45] <Schwifty> ^ 03California rising? Spatially corrected sea-level records for the Pacific coast indicate that uplift rates are overestimated -- ScienceDaily
[02:40:08] <Bytram> http://www.itworld.com
[02:40:12] <Schwifty> ^ 03Even encrypted medical record databases leak information | ITworld ( http://www.itworld.com )
[02:40:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i need to get me some religion. currently leaning towards jedi.
[02:40:34] <Deucalion> surprisingly nasty in premises with more that one power supply. Earth is earth right.... OK just hold this earth wire and that one.... OWWW!
[02:41:12] <Bytram> hmm, do you have a separate ground wire?
[02:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, or when power's been run through a transformer for some reason like in audio gear.
[02:41:26] <Bytram> My experience has been: hot, neutral, and ground.
[02:42:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> neutral == ground for all intents and purposes.
[02:42:35] <Deucalion> Bytram, are you working with DC or AC?
[02:42:52] <Bytram> I'm assuming that SpallsHurgenson was talking about AC
[02:42:57] <Bytram> that's what I was talking about
[02:43:02] <Deucalion> k
[02:43:29] * Deucalion feels fuzzy.. heads to bed
[02:43:33] <Deucalion> nighters
[02:43:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, church of the flying spaghetti monster is just too bloody stupid and i don't want a religion with a deity anyway.
[02:43:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite oh jiggly leader
[02:43:52] <Bytram> Deucalion: sleep well, my friend... catch ya on the flip side!
[02:44:47] <takyon> night
[02:46:49] <Bytram> takyon: any thoughts on the ESR Patreon page story?
[02:47:40] <Bytram> I remember when the /. story posted about his newfound wealth and now it seems he's nearly broke!?!!
[02:48:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, kinda beggy to me. if we're going to start passing the hat for folks, let's start at home.
[02:48:38] <Bytram> good point.
[02:48:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> like we could use a staff weekend in vegas
[02:48:55] <Bytram> there is a certain sense of shadenfreud (sp?) to it
[02:50:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i could always use new fishing gear. i mean you're bound to lose at least one or two riggings every time you go out.
[02:50:51] <Bytram> yeah, I'm thinking on giving it a pass. what I find interesting is I did not see any mention of what happened to his VA Linux IPO "wealth"?
[02:51:25] <Bytram> ISTR there was some fallout in the market before he cashed out? can't recall for sure
[02:51:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> blow n hookers i assume
[02:51:35] <Bytram> doubt it.
[02:51:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> waste of perfectly good money if it wasn't
[02:53:13] <Bytram> so, buying fishing gear is a waste of perfectly good money?
[03:02:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> of course. a damned fine waste of both time and money.
[03:03:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> bed for me. laters.
[03:04:22] <Bytram> lol
[03:04:27] <Bytram> have a great night!
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[03:37:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Knows What Makes Serena Williams So Good - http://sylnt.us
[04:43:38] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: oh thanks
[04:46:56] <mrcoolbp> and fixed
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[05:08:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Global Village Idiot - http://sylnt.us - they-should-look-into-getting-some-artificial-intelligence
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[06:39:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Graphene "Decorated" with Lithium Becomes a Superconductor - http://sylnt.us - resistance-is-futile
[08:01:34] <SirFinkus> oh boy, Graphene again
[08:11:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Robot Revolution Has Snuck Up On Us - http://sylnt.us - What-would-you-call-a-machine-that-paddles-a-boat-for-you?--A-rowbot!
[08:16:53] <JamesNZ> Graphene is a pretty cool material.
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[08:59:51] * [] isn't feeling quite himself
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[09:01:48] <SirFinkus> uh oh
[09:01:58] [\] is now known as [^]
[09:02:20] [^] is now known as \
[09:02:53] * \ is feeling a bit sideways
[09:05:27] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:05:28] <Schwifty> ^ 03Resisting The Urge: A Guide For Christian Boys - YouTube
[09:08:34] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[09:08:34] <Bender> karma - emacs: 85
[09:08:35] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[09:08:35] <Bender> karma - emacs: 86
[09:08:36] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[09:08:36] <Bender> karma - emacs: 87
[09:09:08] <SirFinkus> way too subtle
[09:09:39] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com is better
[09:09:40] <Schwifty> ^ 03The ABC of Sex Education for Trainables (1975) - YouTube
[09:09:50] <SirFinkus> or boys beware
[09:42:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Model 3 to Cost $35,000, Could Ship in 2017 - http://sylnt.us - a-silent-vroom
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[10:01:52] <Gravis> nano++
[10:01:52] <Bender> karma - nano: 11
[10:01:54] <Gravis> nano++
[10:01:54] <Bender> karma - nano: 12
[10:01:54] <Gravis> nano++
[10:01:54] <Bender> karma - nano: 13
[10:01:55] <Gravis> nano++
[10:01:55] <Bender> karma - nano: 14
[10:01:56] <Gravis> nano++
[10:01:56] <Bender> karma - nano: 15
[10:01:58] <Gravis> :)
[10:02:14] <Gravis> emacs and vi are waaaay too complicated.
[10:03:01] <Gravis> besides, if you want to do any serious coding, even an idiot knows you use an IDE.
[10:03:24] <Gravis> the braindead claim vi and emacs are IDEs. :P
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[10:40:15] <JamesNZ> Indeed, Emacs transcends IDE's :P
[10:40:19] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[10:40:19] <Bender> karma - emacs: 88
[10:40:20] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[10:40:20] <Bender> karma - emacs: 89
[10:40:21] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[10:40:21] <Bender> karma - emacs: 90
[10:45:39] <joe> And that IDE is called emacs, yes :)
[10:56:38] <JamesNZ> R++
[10:56:38] <Bender> karma - r: 1
[11:10:30] <\> pascal++
[11:10:30] <Bender> karma - pascal: 57
[11:13:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silicon Valley Wage-Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Settled at $415 Million - http://sylnt.us - the-lawyers-got-how-much
[11:24:19] <\> !karma coffee
[11:24:19] <Bender> karma of coffee is 1625
[11:25:10] <\> !karma bacon_coffee
[11:25:10] <Bender> bacon_coffee doesn't have karma yet.
[11:25:19] <\> !karma coffee_bacon
[11:25:19] <Bender> coffee_bacon doesn't have karma yet.
[11:27:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:27:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1626
[11:27:42] <\> .socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[11:27:49] <\> o.O
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[11:28:08] <\> stupid bot
[11:29:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist \
[11:29:30] <MrPlow> \, you're a socialist!
[11:29:57] <\> i'm slanty
[11:37:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, i ran outa news already and my first cuppa coffee isn't but half empty
[11:41:02] <JamesNZ> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:41:03] * exec allegedly postulates a cheap plastic cup of NCommander towards TheMightyBuzzard
[11:41:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> can never have too much NCommander
[11:43:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, gaming or rosetta stone?
[11:45:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, that settles that. still hacking up a morning lung so it'd be difficult to reliably say nekowa nate imasu
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[12:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, baddies has been kilt
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[12:35:32] <Gravis> \: no, you are not slanty, you are \
[12:36:44] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you write like a twit.
[12:37:02] * TheMightyBuzzard takes a bow
[12:37:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd say more goofball than twit but i suppose it depends on your politics
[12:38:47] * \ is a backward slash
[12:39:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i haven't written anything in a couple days though so do you have me confused with someone else or just rehashing old stuff?
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[12:44:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DOJ Tells ALL Federal Cops to Get a Warrant for Stingray Use - http://sylnt.us - stung
[12:49:22] <SirFinkus> Twit, that's a rare one
[12:49:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm a rare kinda guy
[12:49:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, medium rare anyway
[12:49:51] <SirFinkus> what kind of baddies you kill?
[12:50:11] <\> tmb is a WoW fag, no?
[12:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> vikings. was having a round of megaglest
[12:50:18] <\> oh
[12:50:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck no. i don't like games with a win button.
[12:50:30] <\> lol
[12:50:48] <SirFinkus> ironic, I'm listening to music about vikings killing christians
[12:51:02] * SirFinkus is listening to Týr — Hold The Heathen Hammer High, from the album By the Light of the Northern Star
[12:51:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.techdirt.com
[12:51:17] <Schwifty> ^ 03Sexting Teen Charged With Sexually Exploiting Himself | Techdirt
[12:51:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's just messed up. i know i exploited the hell out of myself through my teens.
[12:52:29] <SirFinkus> luckily, my parents got my an anti-masturbation cross
[12:52:32] <SirFinkus> to prevent self rape
[12:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> what'd they do, nail ya to it?
[12:53:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause if i had a free hand it wasn't gonna be free for long
[12:54:03] <SirFinkus> no, it had adjustable canvas straps
[12:54:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, bondage
[12:55:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, it's too early to be talking bdsm on irc
[12:58:19] <SirFinkus> the new grandia patch added 60fps battles, which look pretty sexy
[12:59:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato
[13:00:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> say, i could throw up a VM and play in that
[13:00:22] <SirFinkus> probably would run on a toaster
[13:00:42] <\> coffee++
[13:00:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1627
[13:00:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that's what i'm running on now. well toaster OVEN
[13:01:06] <SirFinkus> are you toasting on the cloud?
[13:01:10] <SirFinkus> internet of things and all that
[13:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, clouds are too far up. i'm toasting on the counter.
[13:03:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com
[13:03:05] <Schwifty> ^ 03Study includes 'remarks about physical appearance' to trump up sexual violence numbers | Washington Examiner
[13:03:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> no tellin fatasses to eat a salad anymore you rapists
[13:03:35] \ is now known as crutchy
[13:03:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[13:03:52] <SirFinkus> I had an awesome salad last night
[13:04:08] <SirFinkus> steak and spinach
[13:04:25] <SirFinkus> with lemon vinaigrette, and a touch of gorgonzola
[13:04:54] <crutchy> !karma fart
[13:04:54] <Bender> fart doesn't have karma yet.
[13:05:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> fart--
[13:05:58] <Bender> karma - fart: -1
[13:06:00] <exec> karma - fart: -1
[13:06:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> !karma fart
[13:06:05] <Bender> karma of fart is -1
[13:06:20] <SirFinkus> farts are usually good news
[13:06:21] <crutchy> shit
[13:06:29] <SirFinkus> because it means I haven't made a terrible mistake
[13:07:06] <crutchy> sorry. mucking around with a karma script
[13:14:39] <crutchy> ~welcome on
[13:14:40] <exec> welcome enabled for 10#Soylent
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[13:25:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> well crap, ran out of stuff to do and it's not yet 8:30 am.
[13:25:43] <cmn32480> github has a bunch of bugs that need worked on.
[13:26:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> kids in the house, won't be able to pay attention to coding
[13:26:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> "uncle buzz, come see this retarded thing i did in minecraft" "uncle buzz, come reboot the raspberry pi so i can watch more naruto"
[13:27:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> they got the day off from school today for some reason
[13:37:48] <crutchy> yeah github is fucked. need to fix it :p
[13:38:22] <SirFinkus> I hope you're all running alex on all your patches folks
[13:39:33] <SirFinkus> http://alexjs.com
[13:39:41] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i run watson cos alex is a fag
[13:40:58] <crutchy> lol should run a few ciri quotes through that :p
[13:42:08] <crutchy> lmao
[13:42:21] <SirFinkus> it found quite a few issues with TMB's last journal entry
[13:42:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should hope so
[13:42:32] <SirFinkus> oooh ooh bot feature request
[13:42:38] <SirFinkus> make ciri more annoying
[13:42:45] <crutchy> it only corrected "yo mama's ass is so big she needs a fire truck to have an enema" to "yo parents ass is so big they needs a fire truck to have an enema"
[13:42:57] <SirFinkus> make it randomly correct people with it
[13:43:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:43:34] <SirFinkus> geez, this thing isn't very extensive
[13:44:27] <SirFinkus> it didn't have any issues with "fat tranny nigger dyke"
[13:44:50] <crutchy> that's a proper greeting
[13:45:02] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[13:45:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> how else are you supposed to say hello to ciri?
[13:45:21] <crutchy> E-F told me and he's a stand up gentleman
[13:46:17] <SirFinkus> "primary/replica" doesn't even work for master/slave half the time
[13:46:49] <SirFinkus> and could lead to misunderstandings
[13:47:30] <SirFinkus> like on old ide hard drives, just because a drive is a "slave" doesn't mean it's a replica
[13:47:41] <SirFinkus> I really hope that ends up biting someone in the ass somewhere
[13:47:48] <crutchy> i think their thesaurus is fucked
[13:48:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't think anyone actually uses that in seriousness cept possibly SJWs
[13:48:13] <crutchy> like, proper fucked
[13:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, no more snatch for you
[13:49:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> strangely, this is also what she said
[13:49:24] <SirFinkus> yeah, I doubt anyone uses it
[13:49:29] <SirFinkus> but I find it hilarious
[13:49:43] <crutchy> SirFinkus, what everyone needs is cloud to butt
[13:49:45] <crutchy> https://addons.mozilla.org
[14:04:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> From the link: "soundbutt.com isn't really catering to my musical taste"
[14:04:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> I can't imagine why not...
[14:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, i could really do without the ear hair part of getting old
[14:46:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sony Xperia Z5 Premium: "World's First 4K Smartphone" - http://sylnt.us - 8-megapixels-should-be-enough-for-anyone
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[15:46:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Computing Set for a Funding Boom? Intel Invests $50 Million - http://sylnt.us - better-start-using-a-longer-key-NOW
[15:51:28] <Leebert> Sitting in a project planning meeting. Management type said something along the lines of "We need to make sure we have a concrete delivery date". I had daydreams of showing up with a concrete truck filling up their office.
[15:51:40] <Leebert> "Concrete's delivered. Where's my bonus?"
[15:52:32] <crutchy> concrete delivery date is easy. you just dump the job on their desk no matter what state its in
[15:55:13] <Leebert> ha! Joke's on you; I'm not IN a state, I'm in Washington, DC!
[15:59:16] <crutchy> http://www.theguardian.com
[15:59:20] <crutchy> lol
[15:59:26] <crutchy> fair enough :p
[15:59:46] * crutchy kicks Schwifty
[16:00:04] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.theguardian.com
[16:00:35] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
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[16:33:49] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[16:33:50] <SirFinkus> lol
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[16:45:38] <mechanicjay> morning
[17:06:14] <SirFinkus> merning
[17:17:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FTC Settles with Machinima Video Network Over Xbox One Endorsements - http://sylnt.us - end-horse-mints-endorsements
[17:27:09] <cmn32480> I think I need to burn the building down
[17:27:17] <cmn32480> fuckers took my red stapler
[17:27:35] <mechanicjay> that would definitely be the last straw for me.
[17:28:10] <cmn32480> I'm fighting a losing battle
[17:28:15] <cmn32480> and I hate it
[17:29:00] <cmn32480> trying to move my dept into a better space where we can actually work uninterrupted and have a warehouse where we don't squirm every time a pallet comes in wiondering where we are gonna put it.
[17:29:40] <cmn32480> and I'm tied by some significant constraints that are being put in place by an owner who is pissed at me at the CFO that is so tight you can shove a lump of coal up his ass and a dimaond comes out in the morning..
[17:34:27] <SirFinkus> give him some poppers
[17:40:13] <Leebert> cmn32480: Nice Ferris Beuller reference
[17:43:23] <cmn32480> the red stapler? that is Office Space Leebert
[17:44:17] <Leebert> No, the lump of coal up his ass coming out as a diamond
[17:44:19] <SirFinkus> my music project is getting harder to do now, too many 1/16th notes
[17:45:04] <Leebert> https://www.youtube.com
[17:45:05] <Schwifty> ^ 03How tight is Cameron? - YouTube
[17:46:51] <SirFinkus> not to mention tagnuts on half the notes
[17:52:02] <crutchy> http://www.bbc.com
[17:52:03] <Schwifty> ^ 03Australia venomous snake rescued from tin can - BBC News
[17:56:22] <cmn32480> ACHT! you are correct Leebert! I had forgotten
[18:00:41] <SirFinkus> Holy shit, fuck this stupid program
[18:00:50] <SirFinkus> my monitor almost got a fist through it
[18:39:31] <Leebert> So... you're a passionless quitter.
[18:40:37] <cmn32480> and my new USB monitor just got here
[18:40:43] <cmn32480> this is pretty sweet
[18:41:21] <cmn32480> my laptop is currently drivign 4 displays
[18:49:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Say Hello to MIAOW, the First Open-source Graphics Processor - http://sylnt.us - MIAOW-sounds-like-one-cat-crying-out
[19:00:01] <SirFinkus> no, I continued doing it
[19:00:05] <SirFinkus> taking a break now
[19:01:27] <SirFinkus> fuck this entire page though
[19:01:28] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[19:02:50] <Gravis> SirFinkus: it's music, deal with it.
[19:03:16] <Gravis> SirFinkus: MIAOW what are you going to do about it, fool? >;)
[19:03:37] <SirFinkus> that part I don't mind as much, this program has a few stupid behaviors that are super annoying
[19:06:12] <SirFinkus> it's constantly auto resizing and moving to the next page as I add notes, I haven't found a way to disable this behavoir
[19:06:26] <SirFinkus> and placing rests is pretty unintuitive
[19:36:44] <mechanicjay> You want to talk about unintuitive, try setting up a shibboleth sp with multiple applications and application overrides.
[19:38:25] <SirFinkus> you have my permission to rant if you wish
[19:49:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pentagon Halts Work With "Bioterror" Germs at 9 Labs - http://sylnt.us - micro-begone
[19:50:07] <Gravis> mechanicjay: you pay for crapware, you get crapware.
[19:51:07] <Gravis> shouldn't that be "microbe-begone"?
[19:51:38] <Gravis> cmn32480: news monkey?
[19:52:00] <Gravis> takyon: ^
[19:52:04] <mechanicjay> Gravis: it's all open source
[19:52:28] <Gravis> mechanicjay: didn't say it wasn't, i just called it crapware.
[19:52:47] <mechanicjay> It's great stuff, just initial configuration is a bear and the documentation was written by someone who never actually configured it to do anything.
[19:53:57] <Gravis> mechanicjay: btw, just being open source doesn't mean it isn't shit code that was churned out by their shit programmers.
[19:54:06] <Gravis> mechanicjay: likely to be written in... shit. ;P
[19:54:58] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you are enabling this person: https://soylentnews.org
[19:54:59] <Schwifty> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:0)
[19:56:00] <mechanicjay> Fuck, like I'm adding a path based application, so I need add distinct session handler for that -- this makes sense. I can't find the piece of fucking documentation that tells me how to tell the daemon about the new handler.
[20:00:08] <cmn32480> news monkey roeporting in as requested SIR!
[20:00:12] <cmn32480> gravis ^
[20:00:34] <Gravis> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pentagon Halts Work With "Bioterror" Germs at 9 Labs - http://sylnt.us - micro-begone
[20:00:35] <Gravis> <Gravis> shouldn't that be "microbe-begone"?
[20:00:35] <Schwifty> ^ 03SN article: Pentagon Halts Work With "Bioterror" Germs at 9 Labs 04(2 comments) ( https://soylentnews.org )
[20:01:01] <Gravis> cmn32480: monkey, dance or... you know... something.
[20:01:24] <cmn32480> hehehe... either way works.. but yours is funnier
[20:02:12] <mechanicjay> ls
[20:05:26] <cmn32480> gravis: fixed
[20:08:13] <Gravis> cmn32480: excellent
[20:08:31] <cmn32480> see... this news monkey knows how to dance!
[20:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, that's what cmdrtaco gived us moderation for.
[20:20:55] <Gravis> hmm... so a fool never learns his lesson i see.
[20:21:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ACs aren't going away. live with it or don't.
[20:32:23] <takyon> Gravis I picked micro-begone intentionally
[20:32:30] <takyon> there's no correct way to do a pun that bad
[20:33:08] <Gravis> takyon: noted
[20:33:29] <takyon> bytram
[20:33:57] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: never say never. :)
[20:34:22] <takyon> I seem to remember articles about crowdbegging from Eric Raymond or somebody similar... back during the Heartbleed fiasco
[20:34:37] <takyon> should run on weekend
[20:43:05] <takyon> yet another phone: http://www.tomshardware.com
[20:43:06] <Schwifty> ^ 03NextBit Addresses Privacy Questions, Provides Additional 'Robin' Smartphone Specifications
[20:43:47] <takyon> http://www.marketplace.org
[20:43:48] <Schwifty> ^ 03'Biosimilar' drug launches for first time in U.S. | Marketplace.org
[20:59:49] <Gravis> takyon: i like how they claim "it is not possible to make identical versions of brand-name biological drugs" when the reality is they can but are simply prohibitted from doing so.
[21:01:44] <takyon> well it's a big honking protein
[21:01:47] <takyon> https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:01:48] <Schwifty> ^ 03Wiki: Filgrastim
[21:02:04] <takyon> without the trade secrets maybe there wouldn't be a way to produce the "exact" protein
[21:02:32] <takyon> but since protein function is closely related to their shape, and how they transform, a few Carbon and Hydrogen atoms here and there might not change the function much
[21:04:23] <takyon> https://upload.wikimedia.org
[21:04:34] <takyon> what's a few atoms between proteins? go biosimilar!
[21:08:21] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[21:08:21] <Schwifty> ^ 03FTC gives FBI the finger over govt backdoor encryption demands • The Register
[21:08:35] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[21:08:36] <Schwifty> ^ 03Hackers spent at least a year spying on Mozilla to discover Firefox security holes – and exploit them • The Register
[21:09:23] <chromas> Nice to see the ftc doing something good
[21:09:30] <chromas> but I guess they just give everyone the finger
[21:15:05] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[21:15:06] <Schwifty> ^ 03Next Big Future: 3D printing of transparent glass
[21:16:06] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[21:16:07] <Schwifty> ^ 03Oracle's bright new Sonoma SPARCs hint at own-tech cloud • The Register
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[22:19:46] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:19:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1628
[22:20:36] <crutchy> oh dead. are we still having the AC argument?
[22:20:44] <crutchy> well, not that its much of an argument
[22:20:52] <crutchy> it's more of a begathon or summin
[22:21:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not any of an argument.
[22:21:02] <crutchy> or a whinge-a-thon
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[22:23:10] <crutchy> i can't see what's wrong with the comment he linked
[22:23:36] <crutchy> <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you are enabling this person: https://soylentnews.org
[22:23:36] <Schwifty> ^* 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:0)
[22:23:50] <crutchy> Gravis, dude are you really that petty?
[22:24:18] <crutchy> why did i stay up late last night?
[22:24:22] <crutchy> err thismorning
[22:24:46] <crutchy> i gunna have to chug a few mugs thismorning just to be able to function :/
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[22:39:06] <Gravis> crutchy: what you call petty, i call evidence.
[22:43:25] <crutchy> evidence of pettiness
[22:44:38] <crutchy> i guess for a guy that wants everyone who disagrees with him dead in some neonazi final solution it comes as no surprise
[22:45:03] <crutchy> .socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[22:45:04] <exec> TheMightyBuzzard, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[22:52:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist crutchy
[22:52:27] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[22:52:38] <JamesNZ> That lowercase 'a' is annoying me crutchy.
[22:53:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, doesn't matter how much you want it. wouldn't matter if every last registered user wanted it. it's not gonna happen while 90% of our users browse AC.
[22:53:11] <crutchy> JamesNZ, i did it just for you :>
[22:53:26] <JamesNZ> ;socialist crutchy
[22:53:26] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[22:53:35] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: never say never. :)
[22:54:07] <crutchy> Gravis, do a pull request. at least then there's something to be considered
[22:54:13] <crutchy> otherwise its just wishful thinking
[22:54:36] <Gravis> crutchy: there's more than one way to skin a cat.
[22:54:56] <crutchy> sure
[22:55:07] <crutchy> i just suggested one
[22:55:50] <crutchy> i guess you could buy NC out and make a bunch of threats for tmb to ignore :p
[22:56:49] <crutchy> the best chance you got is to become a dev yourself
[22:56:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> could give it a try. matt_ wouldn't go for it though and they both hold 50% shares so nothin changes unless all shareholders agree.
[22:58:31] <crutchy> (or hire a dev to work on your behalf)
[22:59:07] <crutchy> that would be a sign of pathetic desperation for the sake of an AC or two
[23:00:28] <crutchy> they must have said something to *really* piss you off for you to be intent on engaging in a vendetta
[23:01:55] <crutchy> problem with your AC problem is that the effort they expend to piss you off is a tiny fraction of the effort you'll put in to combat them
[23:02:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, plus there's always still me that's gonna piss you off and i'm not going anywhere.
[23:02:58] <crutchy> and if you cut them off one way they'll just expend a tiny amount of effort in some other way that you have to start all over again to combat
[23:03:06] <crutchy> lol
[23:03:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, likely we'd end up with them registering a new account every other day.
[23:03:41] <crutchy> prolly yeah
[23:03:52] <crutchy> lots of proxies out there
[23:04:04] <Subsentient> eeeeeuuuuurrrreeeeuuuuggghhhhh
[23:04:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> and free, anonymous email services
[23:04:20] * crutchy remembers APK fondly :p
[23:04:21] * Subsentient gurgles
[23:05:06] <crutchy> Subsentient, you ok dude? sounds like you just ate a cat
[23:05:12] * Subsentient vomits in a blender and offers it as a milkshake to crutchy
[23:05:59] <Subsentient> mom's in the ER for not taking a dump in 10 days
[23:06:12] <crutchy> oh that sounds bad :/
[23:06:22] <Subsentient> on phone at ER with her
[23:06:33] <crutchy> she needs a liquorice IV
[23:06:37] <crutchy> stat!
[23:06:53] <Subsentient> lol
[23:07:23] <Subsentient> I myself would suggest an undead gerbil suppository
[23:07:32] <crutchy> ooh sounds painful
[23:07:44] <Subsentient> wait, that sounds fucked
[23:08:30] <crutchy> tama probably has a suitable yo mama gag for this situation
[23:08:43] <crutchy> 'yo mama is so back up....'
[23:08:48] <crutchy> *backed
[23:08:52] <Subsentient> lol
[23:09:20] <Subsentient> that her brake lights are on?
[23:09:29] <crutchy> hope she gets though ok though
[23:09:57] <crutchy> tell her i said hi and that you want to stick gerbils up her ass
[23:11:43] <crutchy> my wife has a bowel disease. can be very painful. hopefully its nothing like that
[23:15:56] <Gravis> crutchy: actually, my best chance would be bleed the site of all funding using litigation until it can no longer be sustained and thus shuts down.
[23:16:27] <crutchy> who you gunna sue?
[23:16:40] <crutchy> a non-profit?
[23:16:52] <crutchy> they'd just shut up shop and move out of your jurisdiction
[23:17:01] <Gravis> i didn't say i would, i just said that would be the best chance
[23:17:28] <Gravis> crutchy: lawyers are not free
[23:17:42] <crutchy> they don't need a lawyer to move
[23:18:08] <Gravis> you would still need to appear in court even if you moved
[23:18:14] <crutchy> prolly would cost a little bit to reincorporate i guess
[23:20:01] <crutchy> i guess if it were me i might make an appearance just to see your face when it gets thrown out :p
[23:20:19] <crutchy> no lawyer required
[23:21:05] <Gravis> no lawyer required? serious lack of imagination
[23:21:39] <crutchy> prolly, but you wouldn't win anyway
[23:21:53] <crutchy> if SCO can't win, you got no chance
[23:22:10] <crutchy> they were the ultimate in litigation imagination
[23:22:14] <Gravis> crutchy: the point isn't to win, tardo.
[23:22:27] <crutchy> why would i need to spend money to fight?
[23:22:35] <crutchy> it sounds like you lack imagination
[23:23:00] <Gravis> right... because litigation is always on the level
[23:23:11] <crutchy> lol
[23:23:18] <crutchy> are you on the level?
[23:24:18] <crutchy> even if SN had to fork out for a lawyer, you'd prolly end up paying for it
[23:24:34] <Gravis> alas that is just one way of doing things.
[23:25:31] <Gravis> crutchy: unlikely. you would run out of funds before the end or settle.
[23:25:45] <crutchy> it wouldn't
[23:26:09] <crutchy> if that tactic worked don't you think everyone would have used it already?
[23:26:37] <Gravis> they do use it and it does work, so yeah.
[23:26:55] * crutchy sighs
[23:26:59] <crutchy> if you say so
[23:27:20] <crutchy> yeah go sue SN then. i'm sure that will solve all your problems lol
[23:27:41] <Gravis> too much work
[23:28:14] <crutchy> dunno how long it would take but i'm pretty sure SN 2.0 would pop up before long
[23:28:42] <Gravis> dunno, dont care.
[23:28:50] <crutchy> only matt_ and SN would be affected by any legal action
[23:28:55] <crutchy> *NC
[23:29:22] <crutchy> i guess that's the risk they take, though i'm pretty sure they would be covered
[23:31:12] <crutchy> anyway, at the end of the day if you remained a user of the site you would still have your little troll problem :p
[23:31:34] <crutchy> litigation not gunna stop ACs
[23:32:06] <crutchy> coffee++ # second cup is almost as good as the first
[23:32:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1629
[23:32:15] <Gravis> the point isn't to stop them.
[23:32:25] <Gravis> crutchy: you're losing sight of the target
[23:32:27] <crutchy> what's the point then?
[23:32:36] <crutchy> yeah i dunno i'm coding at the same time :p
[23:33:34] <crutchy> writing a tell command for my bot
[23:33:48] <Gravis> crutchy: you made a proposition and i made a valid rebuttal
[23:33:48] <crutchy> apparently its what all bots should have :)
[23:34:05] <crutchy> oky doky
[23:34:11] <crutchy> i'm crushed. happy?
[23:35:14] <Gravis> your feelings are not any of my concern.
[23:35:39] <crutchy> lol i'm glad we understand each other :P
[23:51:13] <crutchy> ~say .socialist test
[23:51:14] <exec> .socialist test
[23:51:15] <exec> test, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[23:51:24] <crutchy> heh
[23:51:33] <crutchy> test successful :)
[23:52:40] <crutchy> soon should be able to do ~tell TheMightyBuzzard .socialist TheMightyBuzzard >:-D
[23:52:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First Ancient Genome Recovered from Mediterranean Area - http://sylnt.us - but-still-no-bigfoot
[23:53:24] <crutchy> hmm actually prolly don't wanna do that
[23:53:27] <crutchy> bugger
[23:53:46] -!- SpallsHurgenson [SpallsHurgenson!~SpallsHur@Soylent/Users/656/SpallsHurgenson] has joined #Soylent
[23:54:03] <SpallsHurgenson> alright, I'm here. the weekend can now officially begin
[23:54:08] <crutchy> prolly no security threat but might be able to make an infinite ~tell loop
[23:54:14] <SpallsHurgenson> (which is probably great news for the australians)
[23:54:32] <crutchy> i'm about to go out and endure people
[23:54:39] <crutchy> like... real people
[23:54:47] <crutchy> in a shopping center :/
[23:54:54] <SpallsHurgenson> don't do it crutchy!
[23:55:04] <SpallsHurgenson> real people are rude and smelly and full of diseases!
[23:55:10] <crutchy> true that
[23:55:15] <SpallsHurgenson> stay at home with your bots!
[23:55:17] <crutchy> the things we do for our kids
[23:55:32] <SpallsHurgenson> your kids will never appreciate you the way your bots do :)
[23:55:37] <crutchy> lol
[23:56:16] <takyon> people... not even once
[23:56:46] * SpallsHurgenson imagines crutchy as "Mr. Universe" from Serinity, sitting in a room surrounded by computers with his love-bot to keep him company :)
[23:59:33] <takyon> that guy had a better computer