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[23:59:33] <takyon> that guy had a better computer
[23:56:46] * SpallsHurgenson imagines crutchy as "Mr. Universe" from Serinity, sitting in a room surrounded by computers with his love-bot to keep him company :)
[23:56:16] <takyon> people... not even once
[23:55:37] <crutchy> lol
[23:55:32] <SpallsHurgenson> your kids will never appreciate you the way your bots do :)
[23:55:17] <crutchy> the things we do for our kids
[23:55:15] <SpallsHurgenson> stay at home with your bots!
[23:55:10] <crutchy> true that
[23:55:04] <SpallsHurgenson> real people are rude and smelly and full of diseases!
[23:54:54] <SpallsHurgenson> don't do it crutchy!
[23:54:47] <crutchy> in a shopping center :/
[23:54:39] <crutchy> like... real people
[23:54:32] <crutchy> i'm about to go out and endure people
[23:54:14] <SpallsHurgenson> (which is probably great news for the australians)
[23:54:08] <crutchy> prolly no security threat but might be able to make an infinite ~tell loop
[23:54:03] <SpallsHurgenson> alright, I'm here. the weekend can now officially begin
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[23:53:27] <crutchy> bugger
[23:53:24] <crutchy> hmm actually prolly don't wanna do that
[23:52:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First Ancient Genome Recovered from Mediterranean Area - http://sylnt.us - but-still-no-bigfoot
[23:52:40] <crutchy> soon should be able to do ~tell TheMightyBuzzard .socialist TheMightyBuzzard >:-D
[23:51:33] <crutchy> test successful :)
[23:51:24] <crutchy> heh
[23:51:15] <exec> test, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[23:51:14] <exec> .socialist test
[23:51:13] <crutchy> ~say .socialist test
[23:35:39] <crutchy> lol i'm glad we understand each other :P
[23:35:14] <Gravis> your feelings are not any of my concern.
[23:34:11] <crutchy> i'm crushed. happy?
[23:34:05] <crutchy> oky doky
[23:33:48] <crutchy> apparently its what all bots should have :)
[23:33:48] <Gravis> crutchy: you made a proposition and i made a valid rebuttal
[23:33:34] <crutchy> writing a tell command for my bot
[23:32:36] <crutchy> yeah i dunno i'm coding at the same time :p
[23:32:27] <crutchy> what's the point then?
[23:32:25] <Gravis> crutchy: you're losing sight of the target
[23:32:15] <Gravis> the point isn't to stop them.
[23:32:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1629
[23:32:06] <crutchy> coffee++ # second cup is almost as good as the first
[23:31:34] <crutchy> litigation not gunna stop ACs
[23:31:12] <crutchy> anyway, at the end of the day if you remained a user of the site you would still have your little troll problem :p
[23:29:22] <crutchy> i guess that's the risk they take, though i'm pretty sure they would be covered
[23:28:55] <crutchy> *NC
[23:28:50] <crutchy> only matt_ and SN would be affected by any legal action
[23:28:42] <Gravis> dunno, dont care.
[23:28:14] <crutchy> dunno how long it would take but i'm pretty sure SN 2.0 would pop up before long
[23:27:41] <Gravis> too much work
[23:27:20] <crutchy> yeah go sue SN then. i'm sure that will solve all your problems lol
[23:26:59] <crutchy> if you say so
[23:26:55] * crutchy sighs
[23:26:37] <Gravis> they do use it and it does work, so yeah.
[23:26:09] <crutchy> if that tactic worked don't you think everyone would have used it already?
[23:25:45] <crutchy> it wouldn't
[23:25:31] <Gravis> crutchy: unlikely. you would run out of funds before the end or settle.
[23:24:34] <Gravis> alas that is just one way of doing things.
[23:24:18] <crutchy> even if SN had to fork out for a lawyer, you'd prolly end up paying for it
[23:23:18] <crutchy> are you on the level?
[23:23:11] <crutchy> lol
[23:23:00] <Gravis> right... because litigation is always on the level
[23:22:35] <crutchy> it sounds like you lack imagination
[23:22:27] <crutchy> why would i need to spend money to fight?
[23:22:14] <Gravis> crutchy: the point isn't to win, tardo.
[23:22:10] <crutchy> they were the ultimate in litigation imagination
[23:21:53] <crutchy> if SCO can't win, you got no chance
[23:21:39] <crutchy> prolly, but you wouldn't win anyway
[23:21:05] <Gravis> no lawyer required? serious lack of imagination
[23:20:19] <crutchy> no lawyer required
[23:20:01] <crutchy> i guess if it were me i might make an appearance just to see your face when it gets thrown out :p
[23:18:14] <crutchy> prolly would cost a little bit to reincorporate i guess
[23:18:08] <Gravis> you would still need to appear in court even if you moved
[23:17:42] <crutchy> they don't need a lawyer to move
[23:17:28] <Gravis> crutchy: lawyers are not free
[23:17:01] <Gravis> i didn't say i would, i just said that would be the best chance
[23:16:52] <crutchy> they'd just shut up shop and move out of your jurisdiction
[23:16:40] <crutchy> a non-profit?
[23:16:27] <crutchy> who you gunna sue?
[23:15:56] <Gravis> crutchy: actually, my best chance would be bleed the site of all funding using litigation until it can no longer be sustained and thus shuts down.
[23:11:43] <crutchy> my wife has a bowel disease. can be very painful. hopefully its nothing like that
[23:09:57] <crutchy> tell her i said hi and that you want to stick gerbils up her ass
[23:09:29] <crutchy> hope she gets though ok though
[23:09:20] <Subsentient> that her brake lights are on?
[23:08:52] <Subsentient> lol
[23:08:48] <crutchy> *backed
[23:08:43] <crutchy> 'yo mama is so back up....'
[23:08:30] <crutchy> tama probably has a suitable yo mama gag for this situation
[23:07:44] <Subsentient> wait, that sounds fucked
[23:07:32] <crutchy> ooh sounds painful
[23:07:23] <Subsentient> I myself would suggest an undead gerbil suppository
[23:06:53] <Subsentient> lol
[23:06:37] <crutchy> stat!
[23:06:33] <crutchy> she needs a liquorice IV
[23:06:22] <Subsentient> on phone at ER with her
[23:06:12] <crutchy> oh that sounds bad :/
[23:05:59] <Subsentient> mom's in the ER for not taking a dump in 10 days
[23:05:12] * Subsentient vomits in a blender and offers it as a milkshake to crutchy
[23:05:06] <crutchy> Subsentient, you ok dude? sounds like you just ate a cat
[23:04:21] * Subsentient gurgles
[23:04:20] * crutchy remembers APK fondly :p
[23:04:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> and free, anonymous email services
[23:04:04] <Subsentient> eeeeeuuuuurrrreeeeuuuuggghhhhh
[23:03:52] <crutchy> lots of proxies out there
[23:03:41] <crutchy> prolly yeah
[23:03:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, likely we'd end up with them registering a new account every other day.
[23:03:06] <crutchy> lol
[23:02:58] <crutchy> and if you cut them off one way they'll just expend a tiny amount of effort in some other way that you have to start all over again to combat
[23:02:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, plus there's always still me that's gonna piss you off and i'm not going anywhere.
[23:01:55] <crutchy> problem with your AC problem is that the effort they expend to piss you off is a tiny fraction of the effort you'll put in to combat them
[23:00:28] <crutchy> they must have said something to *really* piss you off for you to be intent on engaging in a vendetta
[22:59:07] <crutchy> that would be a sign of pathetic desperation for the sake of an AC or two
[22:58:31] <crutchy> (or hire a dev to work on your behalf)
[22:56:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> could give it a try. matt_ wouldn't go for it though and they both hold 50% shares so nothin changes unless all shareholders agree.
[22:56:49] <crutchy> the best chance you got is to become a dev yourself
[22:55:50] <crutchy> i guess you could buy NC out and make a bunch of threats for tmb to ignore :p
[22:55:07] <crutchy> i just suggested one
[22:54:56] <crutchy> sure
[22:54:36] <Gravis> crutchy: there's more than one way to skin a cat.
[22:54:13] <crutchy> otherwise its just wishful thinking
[22:54:07] <crutchy> Gravis, do a pull request. at least then there's something to be considered
[22:53:35] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: never say never. :)
[22:53:26] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[22:53:26] <JamesNZ> ;socialist crutchy
[22:53:11] <crutchy> JamesNZ, i did it just for you :>
[22:53:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, doesn't matter how much you want it. wouldn't matter if every last registered user wanted it. it's not gonna happen while 90% of our users browse AC.
[22:52:38] <JamesNZ> That lowercase 'a' is annoying me crutchy.
[22:52:27] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[22:52:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist crutchy
[22:45:04] <exec> TheMightyBuzzard, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[22:45:03] <crutchy> .socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[22:44:38] <crutchy> i guess for a guy that wants everyone who disagrees with him dead in some neonazi final solution it comes as no surprise
[22:43:25] <crutchy> evidence of pettiness
[22:39:06] <Gravis> crutchy: what you call petty, i call evidence.
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[22:24:46] <crutchy> i gunna have to chug a few mugs thismorning just to be able to function :/
[22:24:22] <crutchy> err thismorning
[22:24:18] <crutchy> why did i stay up late last night?
[22:23:50] <crutchy> Gravis, dude are you really that petty?
[22:23:36] <Schwifty> ^* 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:0)
[22:23:36] <crutchy> <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you are enabling this person: https://soylentnews.org
[22:23:10] <crutchy> i can't see what's wrong with the comment he linked
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[22:21:02] <crutchy> or a whinge-a-thon
[22:21:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not any of an argument.
[22:20:52] <crutchy> it's more of a begathon or summin
[22:20:44] <crutchy> well, not that its much of an argument
[22:20:36] <crutchy> oh dead. are we still having the AC argument?
[22:19:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1628
[22:19:46] <crutchy> coffee++
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[21:51:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NYC Teacher Arrested for Crashing Drone at U.S. Open - http://sylnt.us - open-season
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[21:16:07] <Schwifty> ^ 03Oracle's bright new Sonoma SPARCs hint at own-tech cloud • The Register
[21:16:06] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[21:15:06] <Schwifty> ^ 03Next Big Future: 3D printing of transparent glass
[21:15:05] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[21:09:30] <chromas> but I guess they just give everyone the finger
[21:09:23] <chromas> Nice to see the ftc doing something good
[21:08:36] <Schwifty> ^ 03Hackers spent at least a year spying on Mozilla to discover Firefox security holes – and exploit them • The Register
[21:08:35] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[21:08:21] <Schwifty> ^ 03FTC gives FBI the finger over govt backdoor encryption demands • The Register
[21:08:21] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[21:04:34] <takyon> what's a few atoms between proteins? go biosimilar!
[21:04:23] <takyon> https://upload.wikimedia.org
[21:02:32] <takyon> but since protein function is closely related to their shape, and how they transform, a few Carbon and Hydrogen atoms here and there might not change the function much
[21:02:04] <takyon> without the trade secrets maybe there wouldn't be a way to produce the "exact" protein
[21:01:48] <Schwifty> ^ 03Wiki: Filgrastim
[21:01:47] <takyon> https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:01:44] <takyon> well it's a big honking protein
[20:59:49] <Gravis> takyon: i like how they claim "it is not possible to make identical versions of brand-name biological drugs" when the reality is they can but are simply prohibitted from doing so.
[20:43:48] <Schwifty> ^ 03'Biosimilar' drug launches for first time in U.S. | Marketplace.org
[20:43:47] <takyon> http://www.marketplace.org
[20:43:06] <Schwifty> ^ 03NextBit Addresses Privacy Questions, Provides Additional 'Robin' Smartphone Specifications
[20:43:05] <takyon> yet another phone: http://www.tomshardware.com
[20:34:37] <takyon> should run on weekend
[20:34:22] <takyon> I seem to remember articles about crowdbegging from Eric Raymond or somebody similar... back during the Heartbleed fiasco
[20:33:57] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: never say never. :)
[20:33:29] <takyon> bytram
[20:33:08] <Gravis> takyon: noted
[20:32:30] <takyon> there's no correct way to do a pun that bad
[20:32:23] <takyon> Gravis I picked micro-begone intentionally
[20:21:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> ACs aren't going away. live with it or don't.
[20:20:55] <Gravis> hmm... so a fool never learns his lesson i see.
[20:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, that's what cmdrtaco gived us moderation for.
[20:08:31] <cmn32480> see... this news monkey knows how to dance!
[20:08:13] <Gravis> cmn32480: excellent
[20:05:26] <cmn32480> gravis: fixed
[20:02:12] <mechanicjay> ls
[20:01:24] <cmn32480> hehehe... either way works.. but yours is funnier
[20:01:01] <Gravis> cmn32480: monkey, dance or... you know... something.
[20:00:35] <Schwifty> ^ 03SN article: Pentagon Halts Work With "Bioterror" Germs at 9 Labs 04(2 comments) ( https://soylentnews.org )
[20:00:35] <Gravis> <Gravis> shouldn't that be "microbe-begone"?
[20:00:34] <Gravis> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pentagon Halts Work With "Bioterror" Germs at 9 Labs - http://sylnt.us - micro-begone
[20:00:12] <cmn32480> gravis ^
[20:00:08] <cmn32480> news monkey roeporting in as requested SIR!
[19:56:00] <mechanicjay> Fuck, like I'm adding a path based application, so I need add distinct session handler for that -- this makes sense. I can't find the piece of fucking documentation that tells me how to tell the daemon about the new handler.
[19:54:59] <Schwifty> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:0)
[19:54:58] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you are enabling this person: https://soylentnews.org
[19:54:06] <Gravis> mechanicjay: likely to be written in... shit. ;P
[19:53:57] <Gravis> mechanicjay: btw, just being open source doesn't mean it isn't shit code that was churned out by their shit programmers.
[19:52:47] <mechanicjay> It's great stuff, just initial configuration is a bear and the documentation was written by someone who never actually configured it to do anything.
[19:52:28] <Gravis> mechanicjay: didn't say it wasn't, i just called it crapware.
[19:52:04] <mechanicjay> Gravis: it's all open source
[19:52:00] <Gravis> takyon: ^
[19:51:38] <Gravis> cmn32480: news monkey?
[19:51:07] <Gravis> shouldn't that be "microbe-begone"?
[19:50:07] <Gravis> mechanicjay: you pay for crapware, you get crapware.
[19:49:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pentagon Halts Work With "Bioterror" Germs at 9 Labs - http://sylnt.us - micro-begone
[19:38:25] <SirFinkus> you have my permission to rant if you wish
[19:36:44] <mechanicjay> You want to talk about unintuitive, try setting up a shibboleth sp with multiple applications and application overrides.
[19:06:26] <SirFinkus> and placing rests is pretty unintuitive
[19:06:12] <SirFinkus> it's constantly auto resizing and moving to the next page as I add notes, I haven't found a way to disable this behavoir
[19:03:37] <SirFinkus> that part I don't mind as much, this program has a few stupid behaviors that are super annoying
[19:03:16] <Gravis> SirFinkus: MIAOW what are you going to do about it, fool? >;)
[19:02:50] <Gravis> SirFinkus: it's music, deal with it.
[19:01:28] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[19:01:27] <SirFinkus> fuck this entire page though
[19:00:05] <SirFinkus> taking a break now
[19:00:01] <SirFinkus> no, I continued doing it
[18:49:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Say Hello to MIAOW, the First Open-source Graphics Processor - http://sylnt.us - MIAOW-sounds-like-one-cat-crying-out
[18:41:21] <cmn32480> my laptop is currently drivign 4 displays
[18:40:43] <cmn32480> this is pretty sweet
[18:40:37] <cmn32480> and my new USB monitor just got here
[18:39:31] <Leebert> So... you're a passionless quitter.
[18:00:50] <SirFinkus> my monitor almost got a fist through it
[18:00:41] <SirFinkus> Holy shit, fuck this stupid program
[17:56:22] <cmn32480> ACHT! you are correct Leebert! I had forgotten
[17:52:03] <Schwifty> ^ 03Australia venomous snake rescued from tin can - BBC News
[17:52:02] <crutchy> http://www.bbc.com
[17:46:51] <SirFinkus> not to mention tagnuts on half the notes
[17:45:05] <Schwifty> ^ 03How tight is Cameron? - YouTube
[17:45:04] <Leebert> https://www.youtube.com
[17:44:19] <SirFinkus> my music project is getting harder to do now, too many 1/16th notes
[17:44:17] <Leebert> No, the lump of coal up his ass coming out as a diamond
[17:43:23] <cmn32480> the red stapler? that is Office Space Leebert
[17:40:13] <Leebert> cmn32480: Nice Ferris Beuller reference
[17:34:27] <SirFinkus> give him some poppers
[17:29:40] <cmn32480> and I'm tied by some significant constraints that are being put in place by an owner who is pissed at me at the CFO that is so tight you can shove a lump of coal up his ass and a dimaond comes out in the morning..
[17:29:00] <cmn32480> trying to move my dept into a better space where we can actually work uninterrupted and have a warehouse where we don't squirm every time a pallet comes in wiondering where we are gonna put it.
[17:28:15] <cmn32480> and I hate it
[17:28:10] <cmn32480> I'm fighting a losing battle
[17:27:35] <mechanicjay> that would definitely be the last straw for me.
[17:27:17] <cmn32480> fuckers took my red stapler
[17:27:09] <cmn32480> I think I need to burn the building down
[17:17:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FTC Settles with Machinima Video Network Over Xbox One Endorsements - http://sylnt.us - end-horse-mints-endorsements
[17:06:14] <SirFinkus> merning
[16:45:38] <mechanicjay> morning
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[16:33:50] <SirFinkus> lol
[16:33:49] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
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[16:00:35] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[16:00:04] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.theguardian.com
[15:59:46] * crutchy kicks Schwifty
[15:59:26] <crutchy> fair enough :p
[15:59:20] <crutchy> lol
[15:59:16] <crutchy> http://www.theguardian.com
[15:55:13] <Leebert> ha! Joke's on you; I'm not IN a state, I'm in Washington, DC!
[15:52:32] <crutchy> concrete delivery date is easy. you just dump the job on their desk no matter what state its in
[15:51:40] <Leebert> "Concrete's delivered. Where's my bonus?"
[15:51:28] <Leebert> Sitting in a project planning meeting. Management type said something along the lines of "We need to make sure we have a concrete delivery date". I had daydreams of showing up with a concrete truck filling up their office.
[15:46:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Computing Set for a Funding Boom? Intel Invests $50 Million - http://sylnt.us - better-start-using-a-longer-key-NOW
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[14:46:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sony Xperia Z5 Premium: "World's First 4K Smartphone" - http://sylnt.us - 8-megapixels-should-be-enough-for-anyone
[14:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, i could really do without the ear hair part of getting old
[14:04:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> I can't imagine why not...
[14:04:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> From the link: "soundbutt.com isn't really catering to my musical taste"
[13:49:45] <crutchy> https://addons.mozilla.org
[13:49:43] <crutchy> SirFinkus, what everyone needs is cloud to butt
[13:49:29] <SirFinkus> but I find it hilarious
[13:49:24] <SirFinkus> yeah, I doubt anyone uses it
[13:49:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> strangely, this is also what she said
[13:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, no more snatch for you
[13:48:13] <crutchy> like, proper fucked
[13:48:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't think anyone actually uses that in seriousness cept possibly SJWs
[13:47:48] <crutchy> i think their thesaurus is fucked
[13:47:41] <SirFinkus> I really hope that ends up biting someone in the ass somewhere
[13:47:30] <SirFinkus> like on old ide hard drives, just because a drive is a "slave" doesn't mean it's a replica
[13:46:49] <SirFinkus> and could lead to misunderstandings
[13:46:17] <SirFinkus> "primary/replica" doesn't even work for master/slave half the time
[13:45:21] <crutchy> E-F told me and he's a stand up gentleman
[13:45:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> how else are you supposed to say hello to ciri?
[13:45:02] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[13:44:50] <crutchy> that's a proper greeting
[13:44:27] <SirFinkus> it didn't have any issues with "fat tranny nigger dyke"
[13:43:34] <SirFinkus> geez, this thing isn't very extensive
[13:43:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:42:57] <SirFinkus> make it randomly correct people with it
[13:42:45] <crutchy> it only corrected "yo mama's ass is so big she needs a fire truck to have an enema" to "yo parents ass is so big they needs a fire truck to have an enema"
[13:42:38] <SirFinkus> make ciri more annoying
[13:42:32] <SirFinkus> oooh ooh bot feature request
[13:42:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should hope so
[13:42:21] <SirFinkus> it found quite a few issues with TMB's last journal entry
[13:42:08] <crutchy> lmao
[13:40:58] <crutchy> lol should run a few ciri quotes through that :p
[13:39:41] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i run watson cos alex is a fag
[13:39:33] <SirFinkus> http://alexjs.com
[13:38:22] <SirFinkus> I hope you're all running alex on all your patches folks
[13:37:48] <crutchy> yeah github is fucked. need to fix it :p
[13:27:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> they got the day off from school today for some reason
[13:26:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> "uncle buzz, come see this retarded thing i did in minecraft" "uncle buzz, come reboot the raspberry pi so i can watch more naruto"
[13:26:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> kids in the house, won't be able to pay attention to coding
[13:25:43] <cmn32480> github has a bunch of bugs that need worked on.
[13:25:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> well crap, ran out of stuff to do and it's not yet 8:30 am.
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[13:14:40] <exec> welcome enabled for 10#Soylent
[13:14:39] <crutchy> ~welcome on
[13:07:06] <crutchy> sorry. mucking around with a karma script
[13:06:29] <SirFinkus> because it means I haven't made a terrible mistake
[13:06:21] <crutchy> shit
[13:06:20] <SirFinkus> farts are usually good news
[13:06:05] <Bender> karma of fart is -1
[13:06:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> !karma fart
[13:06:00] <exec> karma - fart: -1
[13:05:58] <Bender> karma - fart: -1
[13:05:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> fart--
[13:04:54] <Bender> fart doesn't have karma yet.
[13:04:54] <crutchy> !karma fart
[13:04:25] <SirFinkus> with lemon vinaigrette, and a touch of gorgonzola
[13:04:08] <SirFinkus> steak and spinach
[13:03:52] <SirFinkus> I had an awesome salad last night
[13:03:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[13:03:35] \ is now known as crutchy
[13:03:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> no tellin fatasses to eat a salad anymore you rapists
[13:03:05] <Schwifty> ^ 03Study includes 'remarks about physical appearance' to trump up sexual violence numbers | Washington Examiner
[13:03:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com
[13:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, clouds are too far up. i'm toasting on the counter.
[13:01:10] <SirFinkus> internet of things and all that
[13:01:06] <SirFinkus> are you toasting on the cloud?
[13:00:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that's what i'm running on now. well toaster OVEN
[13:00:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1627
[13:00:42] <\> coffee++
[13:00:22] <SirFinkus> probably would run on a toaster
[13:00:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> say, i could throw up a VM and play in that
[12:59:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato
[12:58:19] <SirFinkus> the new grandia patch added 60fps battles, which look pretty sexy
[12:55:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, it's too early to be talking bdsm on irc
[12:54:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, bondage
[12:54:03] <SirFinkus> no, it had adjustable canvas straps
[12:53:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause if i had a free hand it wasn't gonna be free for long
[12:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> what'd they do, nail ya to it?
[12:52:32] <SirFinkus> to prevent self rape
[12:52:29] <SirFinkus> luckily, my parents got my an anti-masturbation cross
[12:51:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's just messed up. i know i exploited the hell out of myself through my teens.
[12:51:17] <Schwifty> ^ 03Sexting Teen Charged With Sexually Exploiting Himself | Techdirt
[12:51:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.techdirt.com
[12:51:02] * SirFinkus is listening to Týr — Hold The Heathen Hammer High, from the album By the Light of the Northern Star
[12:50:48] <SirFinkus> ironic, I'm listening to music about vikings killing christians
[12:50:30] <\> lol
[12:50:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck no. i don't like games with a win button.
[12:50:18] <\> oh
[12:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> vikings. was having a round of megaglest
[12:50:11] <\> tmb is a WoW fag, no?
[12:49:51] <SirFinkus> what kind of baddies you kill?
[12:49:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, medium rare anyway
[12:49:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm a rare kinda guy
[12:49:22] <SirFinkus> Twit, that's a rare one
[12:44:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DOJ Tells ALL Federal Cops to Get a Warrant for Stingray Use - http://sylnt.us - stung
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[12:39:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i haven't written anything in a couple days though so do you have me confused with someone else or just rehashing old stuff?
[12:38:47] * \ is a backward slash
[12:37:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd say more goofball than twit but i suppose it depends on your politics
[12:37:02] * TheMightyBuzzard takes a bow
[12:36:44] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: you write like a twit.
[12:35:32] <Gravis> \: no, you are not slanty, you are \
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[12:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, baddies has been kilt
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[11:45:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, that settles that. still hacking up a morning lung so it'd be difficult to reliably say nekowa nate imasu
[11:43:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, gaming or rosetta stone?
[11:41:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> can never have too much NCommander
[11:41:03] * exec allegedly postulates a cheap plastic cup of NCommander towards TheMightyBuzzard
[11:41:02] <JamesNZ> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:37:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, i ran outa news already and my first cuppa coffee isn't but half empty
[11:29:57] <\> i'm slanty
[11:29:30] <MrPlow> \, you're a socialist!
[11:29:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist \
[11:28:08] <\> stupid bot
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[11:27:49] <\> o.O
[11:27:42] <\> .socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[11:27:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1626
[11:27:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:25:19] <Bender> coffee_bacon doesn't have karma yet.
[11:25:19] <\> !karma coffee_bacon
[11:25:10] <Bender> bacon_coffee doesn't have karma yet.
[11:25:10] <\> !karma bacon_coffee
[11:24:19] <Bender> karma of coffee is 1625
[11:24:19] <\> !karma coffee
[11:13:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silicon Valley Wage-Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Settled at $415 Million - http://sylnt.us - the-lawyers-got-how-much
[11:10:30] <Bender> karma - pascal: 57
[11:10:30] <\> pascal++
[10:56:38] <Bender> karma - r: 1
[10:56:38] <JamesNZ> R++
[10:45:39] <joe> And that IDE is called emacs, yes :)
[10:40:21] <Bender> karma - emacs: 90
[10:40:21] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[10:40:20] <Bender> karma - emacs: 89
[10:40:20] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[10:40:19] <Bender> karma - emacs: 88
[10:40:19] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[10:40:15] <JamesNZ> Indeed, Emacs transcends IDE's :P
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[10:03:24] <Gravis> the braindead claim vi and emacs are IDEs. :P
[10:03:01] <Gravis> besides, if you want to do any serious coding, even an idiot knows you use an IDE.
[10:02:14] <Gravis> emacs and vi are waaaay too complicated.
[10:01:58] <Gravis> :)
[10:01:56] <Bender> karma - nano: 15
[10:01:56] <Gravis> nano++
[10:01:55] <Bender> karma - nano: 14
[10:01:55] <Gravis> nano++
[10:01:54] <Bender> karma - nano: 13
[10:01:54] <Gravis> nano++
[10:01:54] <Bender> karma - nano: 12
[10:01:54] <Gravis> nano++
[10:01:52] <Bender> karma - nano: 11
[10:01:52] <Gravis> nano++
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[09:42:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Model 3 to Cost $35,000, Could Ship in 2017 - http://sylnt.us - a-silent-vroom
[09:09:50] <SirFinkus> or boys beware
[09:09:40] <Schwifty> ^ 03The ABC of Sex Education for Trainables (1975) - YouTube
[09:09:39] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com is better
[09:09:08] <SirFinkus> way too subtle
[09:08:36] <Bender> karma - emacs: 87
[09:08:36] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[09:08:35] <Bender> karma - emacs: 86
[09:08:35] <JamesNZ> emacs++
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[09:08:34] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[09:05:28] <Schwifty> ^ 03Resisting The Urge: A Guide For Christian Boys - YouTube
[09:05:27] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:02:53] * \ is feeling a bit sideways
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[09:01:48] <SirFinkus> uh oh
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[08:59:51] * [] isn't feeling quite himself
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[08:16:53] <JamesNZ> Graphene is a pretty cool material.
[08:11:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Robot Revolution Has Snuck Up On Us - http://sylnt.us - What-would-you-call-a-machine-that-paddles-a-boat-for-you?--A-rowbot!
[08:01:34] <SirFinkus> oh boy, Graphene again
[06:39:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Graphene "Decorated" with Lithium Becomes a Superconductor - http://sylnt.us - resistance-is-futile
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[04:46:56] <mrcoolbp> and fixed
[04:43:38] <mrcoolbp> Deucalion: oh thanks
[03:37:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Knows What Makes Serena Williams So Good - http://sylnt.us
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[03:26:03] <Bytram> afk
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[03:04:27] <Bytram> have a great night!
[03:04:22] <Bytram> lol
[03:03:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> bed for me. laters.
[03:02:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> of course. a damned fine waste of both time and money.
[02:53:13] <Bytram> so, buying fishing gear is a waste of perfectly good money?
[02:51:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> waste of perfectly good money if it wasn't
[02:51:35] <Bytram> doubt it.
[02:51:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> blow n hookers i assume
[02:51:25] <Bytram> ISTR there was some fallout in the market before he cashed out? can't recall for sure
[02:50:51] <Bytram> yeah, I'm thinking on giving it a pass. what I find interesting is I did not see any mention of what happened to his VA Linux IPO "wealth"?
[02:50:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i could always use new fishing gear. i mean you're bound to lose at least one or two riggings every time you go out.
[02:48:55] <Bytram> there is a certain sense of shadenfreud (sp?) to it
[02:48:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> like we could use a staff weekend in vegas
[02:48:38] <Bytram> good point.
[02:48:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, kinda beggy to me. if we're going to start passing the hat for folks, let's start at home.
[02:47:40] <Bytram> I remember when the /. story posted about his newfound wealth and now it seems he's nearly broke!?!!
[02:46:49] <Bytram> takyon: any thoughts on the ESR Patreon page story?
[02:44:47] <takyon> night
[02:43:52] <Bytram> Deucalion: sleep well, my friend... catch ya on the flip side!
[02:43:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite oh jiggly leader
[02:43:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, church of the flying spaghetti monster is just too bloody stupid and i don't want a religion with a deity anyway.
[02:43:33] <Deucalion> nighters
[02:43:29] * Deucalion feels fuzzy.. heads to bed
[02:43:02] <Deucalion> k
[02:42:57] <Bytram> that's what I was talking about
[02:42:52] <Bytram> I'm assuming that SpallsHurgenson was talking about AC
[02:42:35] <Deucalion> Bytram, are you working with DC or AC?
[02:42:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> neutral == ground for all intents and purposes.
[02:41:26] <Bytram> My experience has been: hot, neutral, and ground.
[02:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, or when power's been run through a transformer for some reason like in audio gear.
[02:41:12] <Bytram> hmm, do you have a separate ground wire?
[02:40:34] <Deucalion> surprisingly nasty in premises with more that one power supply. Earth is earth right.... OK just hold this earth wire and that one.... OWWW!
[02:40:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i need to get me some religion. currently leaning towards jedi.
[02:40:12] <Schwifty> ^ 03Even encrypted medical record databases leak information | ITworld ( http://www.itworld.com )
[02:40:08] <Bytram> http://www.itworld.com
[02:39:45] <Schwifty> ^ 03California rising? Spatially corrected sea-level records for the Pacific coast indicate that uplift rates are overestimated -- ScienceDaily
[02:39:44] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[02:39:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> good ole ground loops
[02:38:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely
[02:38:46] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, probably down to people attaching the shield at both ends causing an earth potential difference i.e. current in the shield
[02:37:11] <Bytram> me neither. but seriously, the UTP should prolly be okay; the signals on the ethernet are at such a different frequency that there should be no real interference
[02:36:36] * SpallsHurgenson mutters, "what the hell did I just download a 58gb installation file for if the damn setup program is just gonna download it all again?!?"
[02:36:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't get the throughput on stp that you can on regular old cat 5e. more noise for some reason.
[02:35:35] <Deucalion> I've not seen STP in use for a very long time
[02:35:07] <Bytram> hmm? true that.
[02:34:56] <Deucalion> could also use STP I guess
[02:34:30] <Bytram> by rights, the twisted pairs should not care about the 60Hz
[02:34:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you go running a blender on it maybe
[02:34:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, yeah, 60hz isn't gonna cause significant interference on cat 5e
[02:33:13] <Bytram> parallel channels
[02:32:49] <Deucalion> ethernet and power running parallel in the same conduit?
[02:31:59] <Bytram> btw, could prolly do the same for the power lines, too.
[02:31:32] <Bytram> yeah, understood.
[02:31:24] <Bytram> Might still work... get wooden baseboards, use a router and cut a channel on the backside to run the ethernet cable, and mount that on top of the existing metal ones?
[02:31:07] <SpallsHurgenson> but seriously... I /could/ wire up the place and put serparate routers in each room... but I'd rather not. :)
[02:31:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i'd still run conduit along the corners of the ceiling
[02:30:53] * Deucalion thinks SpallsHurgenson is living on an abandoned soviet nuclear sub at this point
[02:30:36] <Bytram> You ARE living in a bunker!
[02:30:26] <SpallsHurgenson> morlocks, remember? :)
[02:30:13] <Bytram> not wood then?
[02:30:06] <Bytram> ouch.
[02:29:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I dunno, does six-inch steel plate sound unlikely?
[02:29:54] <Deucalion> s/skirting boards/base boards .... separated by a common language :P
[02:29:35] <Schwifty> ^ 03Next Big Future: Phagraphene, a 'relative' of graphene, discovered
[02:29:34] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[02:29:31] <Bytram> hmmm, how *thick* are the baseboards?
[02:29:07] <SpallsHurgenson> and it still doesnt help with the outlet issue :)
[02:29:05] <Bytram> =)
[02:29:03] <Deucalion> Aye, in that situation I would be running mini-conduit just above skirting boards, or routing out the back of the skirting boards to form a channel for cables if their depth allowed.
[02:29:01] <Bytram> wimp!
[02:28:56] <Bytram> so, what's the problem then?
[02:28:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I just dont want to have to do it to EVERY room
[02:28:41] <SpallsHurgenson> already done that :)
[02:28:37] <Bytram> Phhhbt!
[02:28:29] <Bytram> could run ethernet right atop the baseboards
[02:28:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, you said butts
[02:28:02] <Bytram> hmmm, do you have base boards (runs along the bottom of the walls and butts against the floor)?
[02:27:43] <SpallsHurgenson> gotta be careful drilling through the concrete; don't wanna weaken the walls so much that the morlocks can break through :)
[02:27:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, you don't, you drill into the concrete and surface mount the conduit.
[02:27:12] <Deucalion> there*
[02:27:01] <Deucalion> How does one run new conduit runs through already laid reinforced concrete slabs..... perhaps their is some tiny unobtanium tipped moling device for such things...
[02:26:41] <SpallsHurgenson> at most I can hide it beneath the carpet :)
[02:26:37] <Bytram> so, single story, concrete basement, and NO attic?
[02:26:06] * Bytram prepares the air compressor and goes looking for a jackhammer
[02:25:53] <SpallsHurgenson> no, I probably can't :)
[02:25:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> awesome, you can just run conduit and put wires wherever you want then.
[02:25:10] <Bytram> bingo!
[02:25:03] <Bytram> prolly concrete, I'd bet!
[02:25:02] <SpallsHurgenson> just assume solid steel-reinforced concrete throughout :)
[02:24:31] <Schwifty> ^ 03Pwn2Own Tokyo hacking contest trashed, US export rules blamed • The Register
[02:24:31] <Bytram> lol
[02:24:31] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:24:29] <Deucalion> Suspended floors? i.e joists and floorboards?
[02:24:23] <Bytram> bummer!
[02:24:22] <SpallsHurgenson> well, there is a basement but that's where I keep the morlocks
[02:24:20] * Bytram spent a summer working as an electrician's helper; installed lots of power lines in both old and new construction
[02:24:14] <SpallsHurgenson> no basement :)
[02:23:44] <Bytram> hmm, how about your floors? do you have a full basement? if so, you could run the cabling *underneath* and then pop up where you need 'em!
[02:22:53] <Bytram> well of course, silly, you gotta *fasten* the surface mount to the ceilings!
[02:22:38] <takyon> tether it to your phone
[02:22:26] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: are you in the US? 110V?
[02:22:24] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, I don't think that would fly :)
[02:22:08] <Bytram> surface-mount POWER LINES and ethernet cables to the ceilings
[02:21:38] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: oh wait, maybe you were talking about standards?
[02:21:28] <SpallsHurgenson> but that still doesn't help with the outlet issue :)
[02:21:09] <Bytram> ninjad
[02:21:01] <Bytram> surface-mount power lines and ethernet cables to the ceilings and put a wireless router in every room!
[02:20:47] <SpallsHurgenson> because if the problem is too many wifi networks in conflict, obviously the answer is to add more wifi!
[02:20:22] <SpallsHurgenson> its getting to the point I'd probably be better off just putting routers in each room and running lots of wires everywhere
[02:19:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> legality be damned
[02:18:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why you put dd-wrt on it and crank the hell out of the wattage
[02:18:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that could do it
[02:18:35] <SpallsHurgenson> might also have something to do with the other 200 wifi networks in the area :)
[02:18:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> launch first. there's bound to be something needs blowed up.
[02:17:50] <Deucalion> pfft
[02:17:38] <takyon> aren't those things supposed to "drop down" automatically
[02:17:32] <Deucalion> might be at risk of blast damage there TheMightyBuzzard should he choose to launch....
[02:17:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> or drop down to 802.11b. much better wall penetration than the higher frequency standards.
[02:15:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, just put all the stuff in the main chamber then
[02:14:59] <SpallsHurgenson> nuclear missile silo :)
[02:14:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> so not a house then
[02:14:34] <SpallsHurgenson> just thick concrete and steel walls :)
[02:14:14] <SpallsHurgenson> no attic :)
[02:14:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, put your router in your attic. run another plug up there if you have to.
[02:13:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I've even less confidence in the quality of the ELECTRICAL wiring here :)
[02:12:46] <Schwifty> ^ 03Huge, absorbent iPad rumours recycled - and this time it's REAL. True • The Register
[02:12:45] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:12:42] <Bytram> afk biab
[02:12:01] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, would one of those homeplug / ethernet over power type solutions work?
[02:11:48] * SpallsHurgenson thinks its all the lead-lined pipes :)
[02:11:15] <Deucalion> It's not helped by some dry-wall / plasterboard panels being foil backed. That stuff seems to kill wifi dead. I'll leave aside the complete inability to block sound properties of modern building materials for another rant.
[02:06:05] * SpallsHurgenson tries jamming a cat5 cable into the back of his phone... maybe if I use a hammer?
[02:05:42] <SpallsHurgenson> at least, I don't think it does...
[02:05:19] <SpallsHurgenson> oddly enough, my smartphone doesn't have an ethernet jack :)
[02:04:24] <Bytram> cat 5e ftw?
[02:03:04] <SpallsHurgenson> its like they didn't consider wifi at all when they built this place!
[02:02:04] * SpallsHurgenson mutters about how the arrangement of walls and power outlets in his home makes it impossible to place wifi extenders efficiently
[01:59:36] <takyon> job bless steve god
[01:57:16] <Bytram> takyon: good discussion; heard it on the radio.
[01:57:08] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I see... he's got a new movie out
[01:56:28] <SpallsHurgenson> Ummm...
[01:56:25] <SpallsHurgenson> "When Apple founder and CEO Steve Jobs died in 2011, filmmaker Alex Gibney was struck by the global outpouring of grief that followed."
[01:54:46] <takyon> had to post that just from seeing the headline
[01:54:37] <Schwifty> ^ 03Why we cried when Steve Jobs died | Marketplace.org
[01:54:37] <takyon> http://www.marketplace.org
[01:52:30] <Bytram> that would be a loss for drivers everywhere who want to test their driving skills among those whose basic premise is "Get There FIRST!"
[01:42:00] <SpallsHurgenson> on the plus side, no more Bostonians :) :) :)
[01:41:36] <Bytram> btw, who in their right mind would name a sports team after the color of their *socks* ??
[01:41:09] <Bytram> that would be sad... no more Boston Baked Beans, Boston Creme Pie (Yum!), Boston Red Sox, etc.
[01:40:27] <Bytram> I don't know weather or not I should be relieved
[01:40:21] <SpallsHurgenson> perhaps there is no boston...
[01:40:09] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently there is no weather in boston
[01:37:51] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[01:36:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why We Need a Legal Definition of Artificial Intelligence - http://sylnt.us - but-first-we-need-a-definition-of-genuine-intelligence
[01:29:28] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5849, owned by Myrddin Wyllt
[01:29:28] <Bytram> !uid
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[01:06:43] <SpallsHurgenson> btw, people who abandon housepets in the wilderness need to be... to be... to have something nasty done to them, that's for sure
[01:01:26] <Schwifty> ^ 03Incredible Moment fishermen Rescue Two Kittens From a River | Gone Cat-Fishing on The Warrior River - YouTube
[01:01:25] <Deucalion> Were you planning to before seeing that?
[01:01:24] <SpallsHurgenson> then again... https://www.youtube.com
[01:00:05] <SpallsHurgenson> I am never ever going into a lake again
[01:00:04] <Schwifty> ^ 03Alligator Snapping Turtle vs Common Snapping Turtle - YouTube
[00:59:57] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[00:58:25] <Deucalion> Evening Mr Spalls, how's things?
[00:57:39] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, you neglected to update the "Updated" date on the beg-o-meter :P
[00:57:33] <SpallsHurgenson> you should always pfft
[00:57:22] <Deucalion> pfft
[00:57:18] <Deucalion> mrcoolbp, you negelcted to
[00:53:48] <Schwifty> ^ 03The iPhone's Creepy New Male Siri (iPhone 6s / 7 Commercial Parody) - YouTube
[00:53:47] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[00:50:07] * SpallsHurgenson feels obligated to help a multi-million dollar corporation by letting them use my bandwidth :)
[00:45:36] <SpallsHurgenson> but ubuntu needs me!
[00:44:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> SpallsHurgenson: time to turn those Linux ISO torrents off.
[00:43:26] <takyon> wut
[00:41:02] <SpallsHurgenson> some idiot is using all my bandwidth!
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[00:04:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Slowing Wind Energy Production Suffers From Lack of Wind - http://sylnt.us - eat-more-beans!