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[00:39:07] <SpallsHurgenson> let the madness begin!
[00:39:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> TOO LATE!
[00:39:26] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm
[00:39:41] <SpallsHurgenson> let the madness end, take a brief respite, then start anew!
[00:40:02] * crutchy passes wind
[00:40:18] * crutchy was sure to wave to wind as he passed it
[00:41:03] * SpallsHurgenson lights a match
[00:41:55] * AndyTheAbsurd turns all the burners on the gas stove to "high", runs away giggling madly
[00:42:54] * SpallsHurgenson walks away slowly - and cooly - from the resultant explosion
[00:43:59] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arstechnica.com
[00:43:59] <mrjuggsteehee> ^ 03Microsoft has no plans to tell us what’s in Windows patches | Ars Technica
[00:46:49] <SpallsHurgenson> whoever was working in MS marketing and figured out the "lets give Win10 away for free" idea deserves a massive raise, because without that I'm pretty sure it would have been another Vista for Microsoft...
[00:46:58] <SirFinkus> so they're forcing me to install updates, and won't tell me what code what's running on my computer
[00:47:07] <SirFinkus> at least they pretended to tell you before
[00:47:12] <SirFinkus> even if it was terse
[00:47:37] <SpallsHurgenson> in order to better secure your computer, we needed to install Skype :)
[00:47:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah, I'm giving it AT LEAST another couple of weeks before I install it on any of my machines. AT LEAST.
[00:47:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> probablt more like another couple of months.
[00:47:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> possibly never.
[00:48:19] <SirFinkus> I saw a video of some russian hacker allegedly decrypting the phone home stuff
[00:48:33] <SirFinkus> .pngs of the desktop were included
[00:48:34] <SpallsHurgenson> its never for me unless MS seriously changes a number of their policies, such as the huge amount of background data collection and the lack of control over updates
[00:48:58] <SirFinkus> I love how the fans spin up on my laptop if I let it sit idle for a few minutes
[00:50:11] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, Dx12 is nice but I own 2000 computer games already so even if I went cold-turkey on new games I'd still have enough entertainment software to keep me occupied until the day I died :)
[00:50:14] <_NSAKEY> SpallsHurgenson: That's a short step from "In order to better secure your comptuer, we needed to install this Chinese backdoor."
[00:50:25] <SirFinkus> chinese backdoor?
[00:50:32] <SirFinkus> why would they contract that out to the chinese?
[00:50:38] <_NSAKEY> s/comptuer/computer
[00:50:50] <SpallsHurgenson> because there are 1 billion chinese customers and only 300 million American customers? :)
[00:51:00] <SirFinkus> and why do they need a back door? they explicitly have a front door
[00:51:04] <_NSAKEY> SirFinkus: All the therat intel weenies are rolling loaded attribution dice. Thus, it is always China.
[00:51:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think you mean they need to install this 中国借壳
[00:51:46] <SirFinkus> the eula explicitly allows them to gather "telemetry", which could be literally anything
[00:51:50] <_NSAKEY> http://cyberattribution.com!/Dice/c/12550174/offset=0&sort=normal
[00:51:51] <mrjuggsteehee> ^ 03Attribution Dice and CyberSquirrel1 ( http://cyberattribution.com )
[00:52:16] <SirFinkus> and they just updated the privacy policy to say they can disable software and media on your computer if they detect it's pirated
[00:52:36] <_NSAKEY> It makes me glad I ditched Windows back when people were complaining about Vista.
[00:53:00] <SirFinkus> windows 7 was decent, although I'm sure it was front-doored too
[00:53:01] <SpallsHurgenson> I put iTunes on my Dell laptop running Vista. It seemed a perfect trifecta :)
[00:53:21] <_NSAKEY> SirFinkus: Google my nick. Windows has had backdoors for years.
[00:53:30] <_NSAKEY> It goes back much further than the recent releases.
[00:53:31] <SirFinkus> yeah, I know about that
[00:53:38] <SirFinkus> but now it's a front door
[00:53:45] <SirFinkus> they at least pretended not to before
[00:53:50] <_NSAKEY> "Front door" is a bullshit term.
[00:53:59] <SirFinkus> how is it bullshit?
[00:53:59] <ciri> doing great here
[00:54:21] <_NSAKEY> SirFinkus: It's the kind of term someone comes up with when they don't want to get stuck calling it a back door, for public relations reasons.
[00:54:36] <SirFinkus> I don't mean it as a compliment
[00:54:54] <_NSAKEY> It's like, "Let's just invent this other term for this long-established technical term because we don't want the stigma associated with the original term!"
[00:55:04] <SirFinkus> I feel backdoor implies secrecy
[00:55:10] <_NSAKEY> Thus, "front door" is utter bullshit, unless used in an obvious joking manner.
[00:55:28] <SirFinkus> like, if you upload your data to dropbox, and they read it, they aren't using a backdoor
[00:55:34] <_NSAKEY> The FBI director tried "secure golden key," but that was made fun of pretty heavily and I haven't seen that one used anymore.
[00:55:38] <SirFinkus> they own the servers, so they can read whatever they want
[00:55:53] <_NSAKEY> That's just asshats abusing access.
[00:56:06] <_NSAKEY> That's not intentionally gimping a product in order to give The Man secret access to it.
[00:56:06] <SpallsHurgenson> that reminds me, I still need to figure out if my ISP can remote access my modem...
[00:56:24] <SirFinkus> NSAKEY was hidden in the code, and denied when it was discovered
[00:56:55] <SirFinkus> microsoft is explicitly saying that they own your computer and the data on it
[00:56:56] <_NSAKEY> SirFinkus: It was discovered because some dev forgot to turn debugging symbols off.
[00:57:07] <SirFinkus> nothing hidden about it, it's a feature
[00:57:19] <SirFinkus> yup
[00:57:19] <SpallsHurgenson> Microsoft didn't deny it existed; they denied (and still deny) the NSA has access to it
[00:57:25] <_NSAKEY> It's still a backdoor.
[00:57:32] <_NSAKEY> They also claimed that it wasn't a key for the NSA.
[00:57:49] <_NSAKEY> As I recall, they claimed that _NSAKEY was for other countries, which fell under the export rules of the day.
[00:58:30] <SpallsHurgenson> and IIRC it is not, by itself, a method of remote access. It is merely a cryptographic key for digital signing.
[00:58:41] <_NSAKEY> Since we're talking about this sort of thing, have you guys seen this? https://twitter.com
[00:58:42] <mrjuggsteehee> ^ 03Khalil (pilgrim) on Twitter: "Thank you @washingtonpost for posting the @TSA's master keys :)- All lockpickers#security http://t.co http://t.co"
[00:58:55] <SirFinkus> haha, I love those stories
[00:59:03] <SpallsHurgenson> (which of course has implications towards allowing remote access but it by itself does not do anything :)
[00:59:17] <SirFinkus> the classic one is the prison break where they made a copy of the warden's key for the cover of the rulebook
[00:59:23] <_NSAKEY> Just think of the implications of that link I sent for a couple of seconds.
[01:00:01] <SirFinkus> I'm sure it's already been leaked before
[01:02:15] <_NSAKEY> When you have however many people the TSA employs, and it's basically a lateral career move from fast food work, I wouldn't be shocked if some sets of master keys got stolen.
[01:02:31] <SirFinkus> not to mention the people making the luggage
[01:02:50] <SirFinkus> I bet thousands of people have access to the key, and all you need is a picture or an impression
[01:03:01] <SirFinkus> or shit, guy a suitcase and take the lock apart
[01:03:09] <SirFinkus> *buy even
[01:03:15] <_NSAKEY> It's only 7 keys, but now anyone who knows how to cut keys has a handy guide for making their own TSA set.
[01:03:31] <SpallsHurgenson> oh come on, did anyone think those TSA approved locks were in any way secure? once those became mandatory I gave up on the locks entirely
[01:03:57] <_NSAKEY> SpallsHurgenson: No. Anyone who has ever picked a few will get bored quickly, and avoid TSA locks for picking afterwards.
[01:04:12] <_NSAKEY> Master keying is the meatspace version of crypto backdooring.
[01:04:38] <SirFinkus> really, locks are pretty insecure in general, more to keep casual people out than anything
[01:05:01] <_NSAKEY> Yeah, unless you start messing with something like an American 5200.
[01:05:07] <_NSAKEY> Pin-tumbler is generally a joke though.
[01:05:46] <SirFinkus> these are kind of neat
[01:05:47] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[01:05:49] <mrjuggsteehee> ^ 03[2] HYT Chain key Padlock - YouTube
[01:06:06] <SirFinkus> looks fragile though
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[01:07:21] <SpallsHurgenson> the idea with suitcase locks was mostly to keep "the guys in the back" out of your belongings while it was on the plane and out of your sight... in the old days, a lock made sense because it made your belongings a slightly harder target. The luggage handlers would just move on to an unlocked case rather than worry open the lock on yours
[01:07:42] <SpallsHurgenson> but now that they have the keys to those locks, its a COMPLETELY pointless exercise
[01:07:54] <SpallsHurgenson> (more RANDOM capitalization :)
[01:08:19] <SirFinkus> on the RARE occasion I take a FLIGHT I just keep my valuable in my carry on
[01:08:33] <SirFinkus> I don't care if the luggage guys steal my clothes/dildos
[01:08:41] <SpallsHurgenson> I am honestly surprised they still allow carry-ons at all.
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[01:08:48] <SirFinkus> well, I do care, but not a lot
[01:08:55] <SirFinkus> the whole carry on thing is stupid
[01:09:17] <SirFinkus> newer planes are designed to hold more luggage in the passenger compartment
[01:09:24] <SirFinkus> which is kind of stupid
[01:10:37] <SpallsHurgenson> counterproductive too. It just encourages people to have more carry-ons. Think of the security risks! :)
[01:10:46] <SpallsHurgenson> (think of the lost profit opportunities!)
[01:11:05] <SpallsHurgenson> (think of the additional weight - and fuel consumption - from all that extra luggage!)
[01:11:14] <SirFinkus> well, I think you used to be able to have a bag in the cargo area for free on most airlines
[01:12:29] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah well, you used to have seats which allowed blood to circulate through your legs on most airlines :)
[01:12:41] <SirFinkus> when it works, it's better in almost every metric to have your shit in the cargo hold
[01:12:59] <SirFinkus> when it gets lost or stolen, it's a problem
[01:13:36] <SpallsHurgenson> (jesus christ, why are cable modems so expensive? do they run on unicorn blood or something?)
[01:13:50] <SirFinkus> just pay the $80 and be done with it
[01:14:32] * SirFinkus wonders how hard it would be to roll your own
[01:14:47] <SirFinkus> I think you have to get it certified or something
[01:15:08] <SirFinkus> since all the info about how fast it is and such comes from the isp
[01:17:21] <SirFinkus> yeah, looks like the cable company can reject your modem if it's uncertified
[01:17:37] <SpallsHurgenson> /me decides to cheap out and stick with the ISP-provided modem
[01:18:01] <SirFinkus> cheap out? you're paying for that
[01:18:11] <SpallsHurgenson> no I'm not; I get it free :)
[01:18:25] <SirFinkus> are you sure? most of them rent it to you
[01:18:32] <SirFinkus> check your bill carefully
[01:18:39] <SpallsHurgenson> my building has an amazingly awesome bulk rate :)
[01:18:57] <SpallsHurgenson> $29.99 for 100/10 + free modem :)
[01:20:47] <SirFinkus> bastard
[01:21:09] <SirFinkus> that's almost like any other 1st world country in the world
[01:21:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I know, I feel practically Korean!
[01:33:42] <SpallsHurgenson> on the downside, I may need more hard-drives :)
[01:34:15] <SirFinkus> funny how that works, no matter how much storage you have, it's never enough
[01:34:44] <SpallsHurgenson> its not that I run out of space... its how QUICKLY I run out of space :)
[01:35:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I may have to get used to to the idea that I DON'T need to download everything anymore
[01:36:02] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, with 1.1mbps DSL, it was a good idea to archive anything I downloaded because it took forever to get... but now? I've downloaded six copies of the internet just during this conversation!
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[01:44:21] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, you really do need to get that storage fetish in hand. On the other hand, we know who to come calling on post apocalypse to re-create the interwebs from scratch,
[01:48:12] <SpallsHurgenson> just make sure you have a 5.25" floppy drive, 'cause that's my storage medium of choice :)
[01:49:18] <Deucalion> Ye gads. /me pictures Spall's warehouse full of unreadable 5.25" discs in mind and has a brain fart
[01:51:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm sure they are readable; they are all re-used AOL floppy disks, after all :)
[01:54:01] <Deucalion> They're sure to fine then :/
[01:56:17] <SpallsHurgenson> brb
[01:56:18] <ciri> godspeed SpallsHurgenson
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[01:58:34] <SirFinkus> beer time
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[01:59:18] <SpallsHurgenson> you don't get rid of me that easily :)
[02:00:37] <Deucalion> swiss !
[02:00:57] <swiss> Deucalion: hello
[02:01:25] <SpallsHurgenson> my new favorite internet video: https://www.youtube.com :)
[02:01:27] <mrjuggsteehee> ^ 03Timelapse of Napier Port with tilt shift effect - YouTube
[02:02:07] <Deucalion> Don't see you around these parts much lately swiss. Deucalion == juggs btw.
[02:02:49] <swiss> ah, that makes more sense, didn't recognize the nick
[02:03:00] <swiss> i'm always around, just talk a lot less
[02:03:21] <swiss> did a development sprint out in Charlotte NC this last week
[02:06:58] <Deucalion> That sounds....... "agile"..... :/
[02:08:56] <Deucalion> You were talking about software rather than a car right?
[02:11:46] * SpallsHurgenson imagines swiss zooming about Charlotte NC, one hand on the wheel while frantically typing out code on a laptop on the passenger seat
[02:11:59] <SpallsHurgenson> it's like something out of a hollywood movie!
[02:12:36] <SirFinkus> he's the mac guy in Die Hard 4
[02:15:27] <SpallsHurgenson> watch out for that runaway baby carriage!
[02:16:02] <SirFinkus> oh god, I forgot how stupid that movie was
[02:16:03] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[02:16:04] <mrjuggsteehee> ^ 03DIE HARD 4: Semi vs Jet - YouTube
[02:16:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I haven't seen that movie and years and I still remember how awful that bit was
[02:17:04] <SirFinkus> they get props (GET IT?) for using mostly physical special effects
[02:17:39] <SirFinkus> the rest of the movie was actually pretty entertaining, but I just couldn't turn my brain off for this part
[02:18:07] <SirFinkus> I also hate how the new die hards are all pg 13 bullshit now
[02:18:20] <SirFinkus> first few movies mclain was dropping f bombs every other word
[02:18:52] <SirFinkus> any only because you need to say "mother" if you want to say "motherfucker"
[02:20:56] * SpallsHurgenson pulls down multiple simultaneous HD video streams... just because I can :)
[02:23:05] <Deucalion> Got to love that puritanical streak in US censorship boards - don't swear or dare show a female nipple.... blowing people's heads off - meh, that's fine for kids :D
[02:23:22] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "Nipples? Who's got a nipple?"
[02:23:22] * Deucalion stirs the pot
[02:24:06] <Deucalion> SpallsHurgenson, you do... look down - they be on the end of your man boobies
[02:24:16] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh! jiggly!
[02:24:27] <Deucalion> have fun
[02:25:24] <SirFinkus> I don't think the die hard movies ever really had tits in them
[02:25:37] <SirFinkus> it's annoying how shitty movies have gotten
[02:25:40] <SirFinkus> censored
[02:26:57] <SirFinkus> I watched a movie just the other day, and there's not a chance it would be made today, forgot the name
[02:27:01] <SirFinkus> oh yeah, it was die hard 2
[02:27:04] <SirFinkus> not a chance
[02:33:31] * Deucalion feels annoyance brewing inside.... heads to bed
[02:34:06] <crutchy> ~g'night Deucalion
[02:34:10] * exec covertly offers a wine flute of milo to Deucalion
[02:34:23] <crutchy> milo is good for bed time
[02:34:34] <crutchy> not sure about in a wine flute :/
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[02:37:43] <SirFinkus> wine flute
[02:37:45] <SirFinkus> wine skin
[02:37:47] <SirFinkus> skin flute
[02:37:53] <SirFinkus> the implication is clear
[02:37:55] * SpallsHurgenson gasps
[02:38:26] <crutchy> 'doctor i think i might be a homosexual'
[02:39:36] <SpallsHurgenson> great, you just killed the conversation crutchy
[02:39:58] <crutchy> ~link rainbow
[02:40:00] <exec> └─ asdf/rainbows => https://www.youtube.com
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[02:46:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Sup.
[02:47:04] <SirFinkus> evening
[02:47:44] * Ethanol-fueled burps
[02:48:35] <Ethanol-fueled> When are you guys going to start the Northwest Front?
[02:48:41] <Ethanol-fueled> I wanna become a member.
[02:48:55] <SirFinkus> the white nationalist movement?
[02:49:05] <SirFinkus> that's already a thing I though
[02:49:19] <SirFinkus> thought
[02:50:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice. I think I'll move me to Washington in the future.
[02:50:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I like Winthrop/Twisp/Omak though.
[02:51:09] <SirFinkus> omak is nice
[02:51:17] <SirFinkus> I have family down there
[02:51:24] <SirFinkus> if you like a rural town
[02:52:07] <Ethanol-fueled> know any Sommers?
[02:52:16] <SirFinkus> nope
[02:53:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Ever go to lake Chelan?
[02:53:35] <SirFinkus> naw, but been to omak lots
[02:53:42] <SirFinkus> the "town" itself is pretty shitty
[02:53:47] <SirFinkus> but the scenery is great
[02:54:08] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't remember Omak much, but Winthrop was a tourist trap.
[02:54:30] <Ethanol-fueled> hell yeah, the scenery becomes great once you get north of California's wine country.
[02:55:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Are you enough of an authority to know whether or not it's easy to get a tech job in WA?
[02:56:00] <SirFinkus> wenachee is nice
[02:56:18] <SirFinkus> it's pretty good in the seattle area
[02:56:45] <SirFinkus> expensive to live there though, but that's par for the course
[02:57:16] <SirFinkus> we got microsoft, intel in dupont, amazon, boeing
[02:57:25] <SirFinkus> several large game developers
[02:57:51] <SirFinkus> here's one of the two pictures I took of omak
[02:57:53] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[02:57:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I heard they're trying to stop the corporate welfare for Boeing though, and Boeing keeps threatening to move.
[02:58:07] <SirFinkus> yeah, fuck boeing honestly
[02:58:19] <SirFinkus> my congressman has been shilling non-stop for them
[02:58:24] <Ethanol-fueled> HAhahah, I bet that was your can of nattie ice, pack of marlbro menthols, and heroin spoon.
[02:58:52] <SirFinkus> naw, I drink better beer than that
[02:58:57] <SirFinkus> the pants are mine though
[02:59:07] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha
[02:59:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, not all prostitutes have the luxury of removing their pants in a hotel room.
[03:00:10] <Ethanol-fueled> it does look like a place in L.A.'s skid row or San Diego's East Village where bums copulate.
[03:01:50] <SirFinkus> I got a pic from my cousin's farm, about 10 miles out
[03:01:55] <SirFinkus> uploading
[03:02:07] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[03:02:12] <SirFinkus> fucking amazing
[03:02:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, that's beautiful.
[03:02:31] <SirFinkus> picture doesn't do it justice
[03:02:57] <Ethanol-fueled> that valley would be awesome for snowball-fighting during wintertime.
[03:03:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Maybe even sledding recklessly down the hills.
[03:03:28] <SirFinkus> naw, you'd get fucked up
[03:03:32] <SirFinkus> rocks everywhere
[03:03:49] <SirFinkus> I'll show you the place to snowball fight in
[03:04:15] <SirFinkus> stupid slow internet
[03:05:13] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[03:05:14] * SpallsHurgenson throws a few extra linux .iso's in the queue...
[03:05:23] <SirFinkus> so anyway, abandoned mine
[03:06:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice. is that near Omak?
[03:06:30] <SirFinkus> like, 10 miles out
[03:06:41] <SirFinkus> which is pretty near omak in context
[03:07:03] <SirFinkus> there's also a bunch of old structures out there, don't have pictures of those
[03:07:25] <SirFinkus> even a bit of a minecart track, indiana jones shit out there
[03:08:24] <SirFinkus> I was too much of a pussy to go in here http://i.imgur.com
[03:09:56] <SirFinkus> I wish I had explored more of the mines, but I was piss drunk with my cousins, and really needed a ladder
[03:10:17] <SirFinkus> there was this hole in the ground about 20' deep that led to the real part of the mine
[03:10:29] <SirFinkus> there was a ladder there, but it had probably been there 100 years
[03:10:40] <SirFinkus> didn't want to test it
[03:11:06] <SirFinkus> I shot my 1911 into the shaft and it sounded pretty fucking deep
[03:12:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Holy shit, that's some old west shit.
[03:12:58] <Ethanol-fueled> 1911++
[03:12:58] <Bender> karma - 1911: 1
[03:13:45] <SirFinkus> I wish I had taken a picture of the minecart track
[03:14:39] <SirFinkus> also a place where the miners lived, the dynamite shack
[03:14:49] <SirFinkus> yes, I looked, no I didn't find any
[03:15:08] <SirFinkus> yes, I would have tried it if I did
[03:18:00] <Ethanol-fueled> There's no safer occupation than mining!
[03:18:44] <SirFinkus> but honestly, if you see a mineshaft, and you can go in it, how do you not go in?
[03:19:15] <SpallsHurgenson> watch out for the creepers
[03:19:27] <SirFinkus> oh, not pictured
[03:19:37] <SirFinkus> the large animal corpse we found outside the mine
[03:19:48] <SirFinkus> well, corpse is the wrong word
[03:19:50] <SirFinkus> skeleton
[03:19:58] <SirFinkus> picked clean by birds, but still fresh
[03:20:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Haha, well, you can find places kinda like that on the outskirts of town, but you need to watch for violent bums and junkies rather than animals or cave collapses.
[03:21:39] <SirFinkus> unlikely this far out
[03:22:37] <SirFinkus> that's further into the property
[03:23:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, what animal was picked clean and rotting near the mine?
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[03:35:44] <SirFinkus> I think it was a deer
[03:36:11] <SirFinkus> it was in pieces, and we didn't find the skull, just ribs and the spinal column
[03:36:20] <SirFinkus> sorry, I was cooking steak
[03:36:27] <SirFinkus> fucking nailed it btw
[03:38:06] <Ethanol-fueled> mmmm, venison
[03:38:27] <SirFinkus> yeah, my uncles hunt out there every year
[03:38:45] <SirFinkus> my steaks were beef though
[03:39:38] <swiss> Deucalion: SpallsHurgenson it was kinda agile, but it wasn't development code that could be maintained
[03:40:57] <SpallsHurgenson> so... no wild and zany car chase through downtown Charlotte?
[03:48:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Watching football ain't gonna be fun because the Chargers pissed off all of San Diego :(
[03:48:02] <SpallsHurgenson> _/is_ there a downtown Charlotte?
[03:48:50] <Ethanol-fueled> What am I gonna do to let you all know I'm drinking and watching football when I don't have a favorite team?
[03:50:36] <Ethanol-fueled> For those of you not in the know, my formerly favorite handegg team the San Diego Super Chargers are threatening to leave San Diego unless they get a new stadium.
[03:51:22] <Ethanol-fueled> And in spite of massive fuckhuge profits, they want the city (and by extension, the public) to be on the hook for 1/3 of the stadium cost with no protection against raising taxes to pay for it.
[03:55:41] <Ethanol-fueled> All this while streets are fucked up and potholes are unfilled.
[03:56:03] <SirFinkus> yeah, the idea of paying for sports stadiums with public money is outrageous
[03:56:37] <Ethanol-fueled> The worst part is that the only reason for wanting a new stadium is to have more VIP sections for rich people.
[03:57:01] <SirFinkus> I'd be sort of ok with it if I got a share of ticket sales
[03:57:08] <SirFinkus> but HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA
[03:57:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup.
[03:58:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Then they came up with the policy of locally blacking out game broadcasts if not enough tickets were sold.
[03:59:24] <Ethanol-fueled> People do shit like that and then wonder why people are pirating media and watching games illegally streamed.
[04:00:19] <SirFinkus> I don't watch handegg, and I'm not interested in subsidizing people who do
[04:01:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Paying to go to a handegg game is expensive as fuck. You're easily blowing 300 bucks for two people to watch one live game here.
[04:02:35] <SirFinkus> nfl is non-profit too
[04:02:41] <Ethanol-fueled> I like the sport. It's fun to play and fun to watch. But how goddamn greedy are those fucking pigs gonna get?!
[04:03:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Right, fink. un-fucking-believable.
[04:03:19] <SirFinkus> same really with other sports
[04:03:47] <Ethanol-fueled> to a lesser extent. Tennis doesn't have the violence-appeal that handegg does.
[04:03:48] <SirFinkus> given how popular sports in general are, they'd still make gobs of money without subsidies
[04:04:08] <SirFinkus> handegg is just an excuse to have monsters hit each other as hard as they can imo
[04:04:16] <SirFinkus> granted, I don't know much about the sport
[04:04:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, and the commercials show during handegg games are caricatures of American culture straight out of Team America...except that they're serious, and apparantly a lot of Americans relate to them.
[04:05:31] <Ethanol-fueled> The Microsoft Surface ones with the Black family were almost as good as the "puts hair on your ass and 5 extra inches on your dick" Chevy truck commercials.
[04:05:36] <SirFinkus> lol
[04:05:45] <SirFinkus> it doesn't piss me off as much as the olympics though
[04:05:50] <SirFinkus> I mean, holy shit
[04:05:59] <SirFinkus> what a scam
[04:06:08] <SpallsHurgenson> please don't use that word
[04:06:20] <SpallsHurgenson> they'll sue Soylent for trademark violation
[04:06:24] <SirFinkus> olympics?
[04:06:30] <SirFinkus> Olympics ™
[04:06:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup. The olympics were the purest form of human competition. Not being ridiculous like handegg culture is in their best interest.
[04:06:59] <SirFinkus> WERE
[04:07:23] <crutchy> mmm naked men
[04:07:29] <SirFinkus> and really, if they were the purest form, they'd have them every year
[04:07:53] <SirFinkus> if you're like, a gymnast, you aren't competing if you were born the wrong year
[04:08:29] <SirFinkus> and how many people care about the olympic sports when it isn't an olympic year?
[04:09:14] <SirFinkus> who the fuck watches track and field events
[04:09:26] <SirFinkus> or cross country skiing
[04:09:36] <SirFinkus> or that one where they cross country ski and then shoot shit
[04:09:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink - the people who pause the video right as that female hurdler is jumping in that form-fitting bodysuit.
[04:10:27] <SirFinkus> ha, I have a gif somewhere
[04:10:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Or pause the video right as the gymnast does that aerial. Or pause the video when the ice-skater does that thing where she lifts up her leg and shows herself off to the judges after her routine is finished.
[04:11:19] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[04:11:36] <SirFinkus> this guy was really fucking subtle
[04:11:58] <Ethanol-fueled> *chuckle* that leg-lift thing. That's gotta be a French thing. They're the people who used to put fruit under their arms before deodorant caught on, then have everybody smell those fruits.
[04:17:02] <SirFinkus> I read an article a few weeks ago arguing that it'd be smart to just have the olympics in the same place each year
[04:17:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Agreed. We should have the olympics in Somalia every year.
[04:18:21] <SirFinkus> it could be like black hawk down
[04:18:29] <SirFinkus> drop the sprinters off in the middle of mogadishu
[04:18:37] <SirFinkus> whoever gets out first/survives wins
[04:18:41] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahaha
[04:19:00] <Ethanol-fueled> and as usual, the best sprinters are Blacks.
[04:19:59] <SirFinkus> from the wikipedia article
[04:20:02] <SirFinkus> "The Ex-Lujino basketball stadium in the Abdulaziz District also underwent a $10,000 rehabilitation, with funding provided by the local Hormuud Telecom firm."
[04:20:23] <SirFinkus> 10k was notable enough in mogadishu terms to get a mention in the wiki article
[04:21:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Shit, for 10K in Mogadishu you could live like Carlos SLim
[04:22:08] <SirFinkus> that's like, a box suite at a normal baseball game here?
[04:22:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup.
[04:23:17] <SirFinkus> my dad actually won one of those during work, it sounded awesome
[04:23:33] <SirFinkus> *through work
[04:23:59] <Ethanol-fueled> scalp it. use proceeds to do something actually fun, because baseball games are boring as fuck.
[04:24:19] <SirFinkus> well, he's a big baseball fan, and it happened like 3 years ago
[04:24:40] <SirFinkus> and it wasn't the kid of thing you could really scalp
[04:26:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, then going for it is a pretty good option. \
[04:26:35] <SirFinkus> it sounded like it would have been worth it anyway, just for the experience
[04:26:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup.
[04:27:15] <SirFinkus> I'd be more interested in a first class plane ticket, that looks sweet
[04:27:26] <SirFinkus> air travel would be amazing not stuck in coach
[04:27:54] <SirFinkus> emirates airbus 380s have showers on them
[04:28:16] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[04:28:18] <mrjuggsteehee> ^ 03Emirates A380 First Class: Showers and Suites - YouTube
[04:28:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, because those stinky Arabs need them.
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[04:28:51] <SirFinkus> but I'd love to do that once
[04:29:17] <Ethanol-fueled> A light comes on in the cabin during midflight and instructs all non-westerners to report to the showers to as to avoid stinking up the cabin in a manner unpalatable to Western olfactory sensitivity.
[04:29:58] <SirFinkus> another light comes on before they take off for the jews
[04:30:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Plus, Arabs like to masturbate, and putting it in the context of a shower saves face when there are plenty of westerners who can resist masturbating during a 20 hour flight and remain sane.
[04:30:44] <SirFinkus> Iran still uses 707s I think
[04:30:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, can you explain the Jew thing? I'm too buzzed to get the joke.
[04:31:07] <SirFinkus> I doubt it
[04:31:11] <SirFinkus> but jews, showers, etc
[04:31:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, durr.
[04:32:46] <Ethanol-fueled> they_live++
[04:32:46] <Bender> karma - they_live: 2
[04:33:35] <SirFinkus> I already like flying coach once I'm up in the air
[04:33:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Whyzat?
[04:33:42] <SirFinkus> probably because I don't fly very often
[04:33:52] <SirFinkus> looking out the window
[04:33:58] <SirFinkus> it's pretty remarkable
[04:34:18] <SirFinkus> I'm still awed enough by flight that being in a shitty seat doesn't matter to me
[04:34:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, you ride through turbulance on a prop plane and you won't be so romantic about it.
[04:35:02] <SirFinkus> I'd love that actually
[04:35:33] <SirFinkus> something I'd love to do
[04:35:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Go do it and tell me how fun it is.
[04:35:51] <SirFinkus> like, fly over the rockies in a single engine plane
[04:36:39] <Ethanol-fueled> might as well learn how to fly a prop plane, then.
[04:36:47] <SirFinkus> expensive
[04:36:52] <SirFinkus> but I think I'd like it
[04:37:15] <SirFinkus> I've been on fairly small boats in fairly high seas and I loved every minute of it
[04:38:01] <Ethanol-fueled> That's a lot different, though. There's no potential for terminal velocity.
[04:38:36] <Ethanol-fueled> You can open a port or walk out on deck. You can fall into the sea and live.
[04:38:36] <SirFinkus> I trust engineering more than I should maybe
[04:39:29] <SirFinkus> for context, this was like a 40 foot ship on 10 foot seas, so it was pretty bouncy
[04:39:32] <SirFinkus> been a while
[04:40:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Sounds like fun, fink. What was the context of your boat-trip?
[04:40:13] <SirFinkus> sailing in hawaii
[04:40:36] <SirFinkus> it was a toury thing, but there was a pretty good storm on the way back
[04:41:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[04:41:52] <SirFinkus> I generally love that kind of "man conquering nature" feeling though, so I think I'd enjoy the small plane thing
[04:42:20] <SirFinkus> maybe not if it was going on for 8 hours
[04:42:34] <SirFinkus> might get old
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[04:43:11] <SirFinkus> I've seen the tests they put these planes through, and they're pretty impressive
[04:43:46] <Ethanol-fueled> They are fun, fink. But it's the fact that prop planes are more enclosed that bug me.
[04:43:47] <SirFinkus> the 787 the strapped a wing down and pulled on the tip until it broke, I think they got to like 15 feet of displacement
[04:44:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, if you've ever had a wing-seat, you can see the wing actually flap. Pretty awesome.
[04:44:40] <SirFinkus> I prefer behind the wing, then you can see that, and below you
[04:44:45] <SirFinkus> and the flaps and stuff
[04:45:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, that's really cool. And all the airbrake shit on the engine retract during landings.
[04:45:12] <SirFinkus> in front of the wing is cool too, but you usually miss the flaps and can't get a good angle on the fants
[04:45:17] <SirFinkus> fans
[04:45:37] <SirFinkus> and you need to crane your neck
[04:46:05] <SirFinkus> window seat every time though, I've got an iron bladder
[04:46:56] * Ethanol-fueled has to fly to Frisco soon to witness his lesbian aunt's lesbian wedding
[04:47:23] <SirFinkus> hah
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[04:47:39] <SirFinkus> longest flights I've been on have been cross country, and I spent the entire time looking out the window
[04:48:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Where'd you fly to>?
[04:48:16] <SirFinkus> over the ocean might get boring after a while, but a lot of the flights to europe fly pretty far north
[04:48:18] <SirFinkus> DC
[04:48:24] <Ethanol-fueled> same here.
[04:48:26] <SirFinkus> from seattle
[04:48:48] <SirFinkus> eurpopean flights would be interesting because you get to fly over greenland and such if you leave from the east coast
[04:48:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Kind of a ritual for the military family to return their kids to the roots.
[04:49:06] <SirFinkus> look at glaciers and shit if the weather is good
[04:49:26] <SirFinkus> an uncle lives over there
[04:49:43] <SirFinkus> works for the state department
[04:49:52] <Ethanol-fueled> he's probably an asshole, then.
[04:49:55] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahahah
[04:50:01] <SirFinkus> no, he's pretty cool actually
[04:50:38] <SirFinkus> only really asshole attribute he has is that he's a vegetarian
[04:51:35] <SirFinkus> his job must suck though, they send him over to angola occasionaly
[04:52:30] <Ethanol-fueled> That's a pretty shit-tier assignment for Department of State, but from the looks of things, they're like a nepotist train-wreck reality show anyway.
[04:52:31] <SirFinkus> he rode in an elevator with hillary clinton once
[04:53:10] <SirFinkus> yeah, he works with like the shittiest parts of west africa
[04:53:59] <SirFinkus> it actually kind of sounds like a neat place to work though
[04:54:40] <SirFinkus> he said you have access to native speakers of most languages for language training stuff pretty much whenever you want
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[06:14:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla Thinks You Should Eat Cake - http://sylnt.us - who-is-this-company-named-mozilla
[06:21:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> TheMightyBuzzard: any particulr reason(s) you don't think that Pale Moon is a sustainable fork of Firefox?
[06:23:30] <crutchy> cos it has a weird name :p
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[06:27:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Sup fellas.
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[06:50:57] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[06:50:57] <mrjuggsteehee> ^✓ 03Guerilla War (NES) Final Boss Dictator (Perfect) + Ending and Credits - YouTube
[06:52:16] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[06:52:16] <mrjuggsteehee> ^✓ 03NES Guerrilla War Ending - YouTube
[06:52:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Rad commie endings
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[07:00:18] <Ethanol-fueled> PFFFBFBFBFBFPPPFFPFPFPT
[07:00:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaha.
[07:00:51] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[07:00:51] <mrjuggsteehee> ^✓ 03NES Guerrilla War Ending - YouTube
[07:01:15] mrjuggsteehee is now known as spankr
[07:02:31] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[07:02:31] <spankr> ^✓ 03NES Guerrilla War Ending - YouTube
[07:06:06] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[07:06:06] <spankr> ^✓ 03NES Guerrilla War Ending - YouTube
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[09:40:00] <crutchy> hehe spankr
[09:40:04] <crutchy> spankr++
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[10:01:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:01:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1592
[10:02:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, cause last i looked it had ONE developer.
[10:15:32] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, i think i just pissed off a socialist
[10:15:39] * crutchy spanks himself
[10:15:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot
[10:16:26] <crutchy> <vash> i'm sorry, i'm done conversing with you crutchy
[10:16:27] <crutchy> <vash> attempting to converse, i should say
[10:16:27] <crutchy> <crutchy> and yet you keep highlighting me :p
[10:16:27] <crutchy> <vash> i was addressing elios
[10:16:27] <crutchy> <crutchy> read what you typed again
[10:17:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> many socialists, like most kinds of SJW, cannot stand anything that breaks their narrative.
[10:19:22] <JamesNZ> ;socialist TheMightyBuzzard, crutchy
[10:19:22] <MrPlow> TheMightyBuzzard,, you're a socialist!
[10:19:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist JamesNZ
[10:19:37] <MrPlow> JamesNZ, you're a socialist!
[10:19:55] <JamesNZ> Wh... what..??!! Slander and calumny!
[10:20:26] <crutchy> all right! back to the pyle!
[10:20:36] * crutchy strips his clothes off
[10:20:54] <JamesNZ> https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net
[10:21:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really need to quit eating 1/2 el diablo burgers. i can't afford to have to buy all new pants.
[10:22:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll cut back to 1/3lb ones instead
[10:23:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
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[10:38:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, you need to learn perl so i don't have to code yet another tedious billing option
[10:39:41] <crutchy> lol
[10:39:49] <crutchy> you would swear lots at my code
[10:40:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i swear lots at paulej72's code. it's a coder thing.
[10:41:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[10:41:41] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) utf8mb4 upgrade 2) filtering for the api cause damn 3) find out wtf is going on with memcache 4) look into daily email digests
[10:42:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo filter comments by score in the api
[10:42:02] <Bender> todo item 5 added
[10:42:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo latest spam moderations for admin accounts in api
[10:42:45] <Bender> todo item 6 added
[10:43:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> !done 2
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[11:35:19] <crutchy> i'm arguing with another socialist now. he's doing his best to keep his cool. i think he's a bit flustered though, or english isn't his first language or something
[11:36:10] <crutchy> not really how i'd planned my saturday evening, but meh
[11:36:39] <crutchy> ooh. tmb i got a pathfinding algorithm working in my little irc game today :D
[11:37:06] <crutchy> was quite proud of myself
[11:37:09] <crutchy> http://irciv.bot.nu
[11:37:10] <spankr> ^ 03IRCiv
[11:37:19] <crutchy> (red line is the demo)
[11:38:10] <crutchy> the code that drives it: https://github.com
[11:38:12] <spankr> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/irciv_lib.php at master · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub ( https://github.com )
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[11:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, nifty. never tried writing one of those before
[11:48:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The mThrow Wearable Sleeve Turns Baseball Pitching Into a Science - http://sylnt.us - making-sports-interesting
[11:57:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, ask him if he's aware that involuntary taxes = men with guns coming to your house and taking what you have rightfully earned.
[12:15:28] <crutchy> i started with 'taxation is basically legalized theft'. that was what got 'em all riled up in the first place :D
[12:15:44] <crutchy> it was beautiful
[12:16:21] <crutchy> he's given up now though :(
[12:16:50] <crutchy> don't really wanna troll him some more cos i'm not sure if he may be drinking
[12:18:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> trolling drunk folks is fun though
[12:18:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean look at the fun we have with EF
[12:22:39] <crutchy> heh
[12:22:43] <crutchy> but e-f is smart
[12:22:48] <crutchy> these guys are dopes
[12:22:56] <crutchy> e-f just plays dope
[12:23:58] <crutchy> these guys might i dunno. go rape someone if i piss them off too much
[12:24:11] <crutchy> fiik
[12:24:21] <crutchy> socialists are dangerous creepy fucks
[12:26:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[13:08:00] <cmn32480|afk> ~weather Fripp Island, SC
[13:08:10] <cmn32480|afk> rats
[13:08:16] cmn32480|afk is now known as cmn32480
[13:08:28] <cmn32480> ;weather fripp Island, SC
[13:08:30] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy with afternoon showers or thunderstorms. High 86F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%. Tomorrow: Partly cloudy early. Scattered thunderstorms developing in the afternoon. High 87F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%.
[13:09:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;weather humboldt, tn
[13:09:18] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy early followed by scattered thunderstorms this afternoon. High 87F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Tomorrow: Partly to mostly cloudy skies with scattered thunderstorms in the morning. High 89F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
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[13:09:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[13:09:40] <cmn32480> day late and a dollar short...
[13:09:44] <crutchy> parted it from #soylent earlier when i was doing some testing
[13:10:03] <cmn32480> ~weather frippisland, SC
[13:10:04] <exec> 03Fripp Island - currently 80°F / 27°C, sunny, wind N at 8 mph, humidity 85% - Saturday scattered thunderstorms (75°F-86°F / 24°C-30°C), Sunday scattered thunderstorms (74°F-87°F / 23°C-31°C), Monday scattered thunderstorms (76°F-88°F / 24°C-31°C), Tuesday scattered thunderstorms (76°F-89°F / 24°C-32°C)
[13:10:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky, i used to live in SC. still got friends there.
[13:10:43] <cmn32480> SC is pretty big...
[13:11:09] <cmn32480> and we are on the coast north of Hilton Head for a couple more days
[13:12:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> sc is not big. you can drive across the whole thing in like 2.5 hours
[13:12:29] <cmn32480> at the pointy end....
[13:12:38] <cmn32480> the coastal side is like a 3.5-4 hour drive
[13:12:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no i mean coast to pointy end
[13:12:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> chas to columbia is like an hour n change
[13:13:08] <cmn32480> big compared to like Delware or Rhode Island
[13:14:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah but i'm currently in a state it takes like 6-8 hours to drive east to west
[13:14:15] <cmn32480> right.
[13:14:23] <cmn32480> I've done most of that
[13:14:28] <cmn32480> in TN, I mean
[13:14:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> I40 can eat a dick. it's TN all freakin day.
[13:14:57] <cmn32480> uh huh
[13:15:41] <cmn32480> I was going to a wedding in Nashville about 10 years ago and drove down after work to meet my wife (she had flown to go to the bachelorette party)
[13:15:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, i need to go visit me homies down around charleston sometime. maybe this winter when it's sucking ass and being cold all over the place out here.
[13:16:19] <cmn32480> pulled off in Knoxville to get some coffee... and found the 1 exit for about 50 miles in all directisonw itha Dunkin' Donuts
[13:17:06] <cmn32480> that is my only real story about TN. other than that the Smokies are quite nice
[13:17:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> well at least there's that. donuts may be overpriced but at least they got good coffee.
[13:17:44] <cmn32480> i don't eat the donuts
[13:17:47] <cmn32480> just the ocffee
[13:17:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> !?
[13:17:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist cmn32480
[13:17:57] <MrPlow> cmn32480, you're a socialist!
[13:18:02] <cmn32480> *coffee
[13:18:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> donuts is teh yummy
[13:18:18] <cmn32480> yes, I am aware of that. Bernie Sanders and I are best buddies
[13:18:42] * TheMightyBuzzard nods sagely
[13:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> all makes sense now.
[13:18:50] <cmn32480> my kids eat the donuts... and love them
[13:19:07] <cmn32480> but get into arguments about big donuts vs. little donuts
[13:19:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> not all food can be yummy so socialists wanna get rid of the awesome foods like donuts until the brussle sprouts are no longer jealous.
[13:19:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Only H1Bs Need Apply? - http://sylnt.us - how-many-jobs-do-we-need-to-lose
[13:19:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> erg, fucking h1bs
[13:20:03] <cmn32480> yeah... that atricle is a job post that was ONLY looking for H1Bs
[13:20:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be the other way around. what fucktards.
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[13:34:45] <cmn32480> I think I'm starting to actually hate my job
[13:34:53] <cmn32480> !uid
[13:34:54] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5828, owned by Greymulkin
[13:35:17] <cmn32480> methinks it is time to start looking with some seriousness...
[13:36:58] * crutchy knows that feeling :/
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[13:41:11] <cmn32480> crutchy - too much politics for a small company. My boss (one of the owners) wants to move the entire dept 700 miles to be where he is
[13:41:30] <cmn32480> and nobody wnats to move.
[13:41:49] <cmn32480> posed the question to all 7 people, nobody wants it.
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[13:42:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> Does he want to move you from someplace cool and hip to Bumshart, Nebrahoma?
[13:43:41] <cmn32480> Baltimore (where jobs actually exist) to Bumblefuck, SC where few jobs exist and it woudl tie us to the company is a not so good way
[13:44:06] <cmn32480> it'd make moeing back ot a place witha decent job market nearly impossible
[13:44:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> yup, time to have everyone get new jobs lined up and all quit at once.
[13:45:25] <cmn32480> that is what I am thin king
[13:45:39] <cmn32480> as an illustration of the problem:
[13:46:09] <cmn32480> I search the term "system administrator" within 30 miles of BumFk, SC
[13:46:21] <cmn32480> Four (4) hits
[13:46:36] <cmn32480> this is on Monster.com, by the way
[13:47:15] <cmn32480> within 30 mils of the town where I currently live, 552 results
[13:47:33] <cmn32480> 552 (Five-hundred and fifty two)
[13:47:57] <cmn32480> me thinks it'd be a VERY stupid idea for me to leave
[13:48:06] <cmn32480> where I am
[13:50:09] <cmn32480> on INdeed.com, it is 78 results, to 778 results
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[13:50:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> I get 978 "system administrator" jobs within 30 miles of Baltimore, MD as of right now... sounds like leaving your current company won't be too difficult.
[13:51:11] <cmn32480> exactly... now, as the old joke says, we are just wrangling over the price
[13:53:49] <cmn32480> yeah... I don't think that moving to an area with LESS opportunity is a good idea...
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[14:50:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Shutdownify is Shutting Down - http://sylnt.us - oh-the-irony
[15:13:23] <cmn32480> !uid
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[19:31:33] <chromas> the first link in that summary is broken
[19:32:28] <chromas> "https://soylentnews.org/ahref="
[19:32:29] <spankr> ^ 03404 File Not Found
[20:34:26] <cmn32480> thanks Chromas. Fixed the busted link.
[20:37:04] * chromas furiously reloads
[20:37:06] <chromas> cache--
[20:37:06] <Bender> karma - cache: -1
[20:37:10] <chromas> cmn32480++
[20:37:10] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 21
[20:37:43] <cmn32480> :-)
[20:38:39] <chromas> linux_mint-- #poor encrypted volume support at install time
[20:38:40] <Bender> karma - linux_mint: -1
[20:42:20] <cmn32480> ~weather Fripp island, SC
[20:42:22] <exec> 03Fripp Island - currently 87°F / 31°C, mostly cloudy, wind E at 8 mph, humidity 77% - Saturday isolated thunderstorms (75°F-88°F / 24°C-31°C), Sunday scattered thunderstorms (74°F-88°F / 23°C-31°C), Monday mostly sunny (76°F-88°F / 24°C-31°C), Tuesday scattered thunderstorms (76°F-90°F / 24°C-32°C)
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