#Soylent | Logs for 2015-08-14
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[23:48:03] * crutchy wonders what will supersede the web
[23:47:46] <crutchy> websites are ghay
[23:45:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> also: Dear websites: Please check *viewport* size instead *screen* size. My browser is almost never maximized.
[23:34:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> man, I hate it when I can't figure which of the 18 places a site is loading scripts from is their CDN.
[23:07:11] <arti> hmm
[23:05:59] <crutchy> ergh. apparently rovio has gone douchebag
[23:04:12] * crutchy is getting his tech news from a kids game review show on tv
[23:03:47] <crutchy> been at work :/
[23:03:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/the week/the last week/
[23:03:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> crutchy: ...been under a rock for the week or so?
[23:02:55] <crutchy> hoverboards exist!
[23:02:50] <crutchy> ooh
[23:02:13] <crutchy> apparently hitchbot was vandalized in philadelphia
[23:00:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> Why am I cold?
[23:00:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm cold.
[22:59:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> maybe both?
[22:59:32] <arti> er ATA
[22:59:24] <arti> this pleases TMB
[22:59:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> yay! both my "from the X dept." tags were kept in today's articles!
[22:52:54] <Bender> karma - wifey_coffee: 1
[22:52:54] <crutchy> wifey_coffee++
[22:44:09] <Bender> karma - cuppa: 1
[22:44:09] <arti> cuppa++
[22:44:01] <Bender> karma - tea: 489
[22:44:01] <arti> tea++
[22:31:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1571
[22:31:35] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:31:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Origin of the Robot Species - http://sylnt.us - the-robot-uprising-will-not-be-cute-and-fluffy
[21:30:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - We’ve Consumed More Than the Earth Can Produce This Year - http://sylnt.us - living-on-borrowed-time
[19:59:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cheap Prosthesis Made From PET Are Light and Heat Sensitive - http://sylnt.us - ouch-my-arm-is-melting
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[18:53:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Happy Friday!
[18:53:37] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm gonna check it out and split from here. Maybe be back on later, depending.
[18:53:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Gotcha.
[18:53:01] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: make sure to highlight me if you ever want a response.
[18:52:51] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: https://github.com
[18:52:41] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: yeh
[18:35:31] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, I'd like to take a look. You got a repo, right?
[18:35:13] <Subsentient> Want a copy of aqu4bot?
[18:35:05] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: that reminds me, you use Windows/
[18:34:50] <Subsentient> I also need something to test my useless aqu4bot Windows support on :^)
[18:34:29] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I like to fiddle with stuff.
[18:33:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Why would you need Win 10? You some kinda pen-tester or malware writer?
[18:32:44] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: vs Win8.x? Yeah, big difference
[18:32:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Pleased with Win 10, HAHAHAHAHAHAH
[18:32:09] <Ethanol-fueled> PbfbfbbfffffftHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!
[18:31:45] <Subsentient> Shame too, before I found out about this BS, I was actually pretty pleased with Win10
[18:31:33] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Yeah I'm currently in "butcher microsoft and sell them to Purina" mode.
[18:28:45] <Ethanol-fueled> that's what you'd be left with after the lawyers take their cut.
[18:28:37] <Subsentient> but still, I wouldn't
[18:28:30] <Subsentient> Of course, they probably wouldn't give me more than a few grand
[18:28:21] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I'd never sell out. This kind of thing matters more than the billions for me.
[18:28:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Way We Measure Earthquakes is Stupid - http://sylnt.us - shake,-rattle-and-roll
[18:28:00] <Subsentient> http://tinyurl.com
[18:27:57] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Yup, I'd get a kick out of talking them up to some absurdly high price like 25 billion and then telling them to go fuck themselves.
[18:27:13] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Microsoft Poopchute®
[18:27:13] <chromas> $burrito Microsoft Poopchute®
[18:27:06] <Ethanol-fueled> But then again, people like you have principles...I think.
[18:26:52] * Ethanol-fueled would just take the settlement money and buy three old puters for the price of one new one.
[18:25:55] <Subsentient> Right up the ol' poop shoot
[18:25:45] <Subsentient> I'd love to give microsoft a nice, spiney antitrust lawsuit enema.
[18:25:25] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Precisely.
[18:25:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Damn, fuck that.
[18:24:48] <Subsentient> They actually just made it WORSE for Windows 10.
[18:24:37] <Subsentient> Not at all.
[18:24:35] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: No.
[18:24:30] <Subsentient> he'd fucking kill you
[18:24:26] <Ethanol-fueled> But back to your journal, yeah, that's a dick move. But didn't Microsoft reverse that decision after some complaints?
[18:24:21] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: lolllll
[18:23:09] <Ethanol-fueled> I read Fliptop's recent journal and was going to post a reply saying, "So...is she hot? Where's she going to school?"
[18:22:36] <Subsentient> lol
[18:22:01] <Ethanol-fueled> To keep bad guys from hacking your computer.
[18:21:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, it's for your own safety.
[18:21:41] <Subsentient> I'm not a pacifist, I'm a utilitarian, and sometimes that mandates opening up a can of whoop ass.
[18:21:19] <Subsentient> I will admit the idea of choking out the assholes who did this to PCs sounds appealing....
[18:20:47] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: lol
[18:20:31] <Ethanol-fueled> I read your letter Subsentient -- needs more death-threats.
[18:19:39] <Subsentient> Mmmmm... egg farts.... *homer simpson face*
[18:19:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Those are the worst.
[18:19:22] <Ethanol-fueled> was it an egg-fart?
[18:19:05] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I farted.
[18:11:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Even though I've told her countless times that I am an introvert and interacting with people is draining.
[18:10:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Sheesh, women. You talk to them all day, take them out to dinner, take them out for drinks, get home, then it's bitch-bitch-bitch because I'm not giving her any more attention.
[18:07:49] <Ethanol-fueled> I will drink tonight, but will be distracted. I guess it'll depend on whether she leaves or tries to stay the night.
[18:07:19] <Ethanol-fueled> errybody here is drinking all of a sudden like it's cool right after I scale back my own
[18:07:01] * Ethanol-fueled grumbles
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[17:27:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - When a Real Dog Won’t Do, This Puppy Bot Helps PTSD Victims - http://sylnt.us - the-robot-uprising-will-be-cute-and-fluffy
[17:04:43] -!- mode/#Soylent [-q Gravis!*@*] by aqu4
[17:04:42] <aqu4> Ok.
[17:04:42] <Subsentient> $chanctl unquiet Gravis
[17:04:22] <Subsentient> =karma
[17:04:16] <systemd> standard irc commands (see your irc client's help); karma (see: karma); hives (see: hives)
[17:04:16] <Subsentient> =help
[17:04:08] <systemd> standard irc commands (see your irc client's help); karma (see: karma); hives (see: hives)
[17:04:07] <Subsentient> =help
[17:04:04] <Subsentient> =commands
[17:02:02] popeydoll is now known as Popeidol
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[15:25:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Smart People Live Longer — Here's Why - http://sylnt.us - Too-dumb-to-Live
[14:55:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Using Computational Methods, Scientists Tailor and Adapt Proteins to Mine Uranium From Seawater - http://sylnt.us - confusing-the-sciences
[14:53:22] <cmn32480> man would you look at those subscriptions roll in.... <sigh>
[14:51:10] <exec> 05*** SN funding has changed from $382 to $478
[14:27:25] <Bender> karma - kids: 2
[14:27:25] <crutchy> kids++
[14:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus half the time there's a house fulla kids
[14:21:11] <paulej72> well people like to live in TN so it is much more active :)
[14:20:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. life's hectic around here a lot more often than it was in OK as well.
[14:19:49] <paulej72> I have been so busy with work lately that I have not done much on the site. I get home from work, eat then take a bike ride and I am pretty much done for the day.
[14:18:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, fair point, i got a wallet but it's got fuck-all in it
[14:17:30] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: like I have a live bitpay account :)
[14:04:32] -!- Prospectacle [Prospectacle!~3a6b4019@f05-504-54-34.mit826.act.optusnet.com.au] has parted #Soylent
[14:04:23] <Prospectacle> later guys
[13:54:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Express Genesis One as Code? - http://sylnt.us - Deus-ex-Machina
[13:40:41] * crutchy fails
[13:40:26] <crutchy> =hives list
[13:38:01] <systemd> Control the hive cluster. Commands: stats, get, set, del, !clear, dump, list, setpermissions, new, !deletehive, rename (semi-broken)
[13:38:01] <crutchy> =help hives
[13:37:25] <systemd> standard irc commands (see your irc client's help); karma (see: karma); hives (see: hives)
[13:37:25] <crutchy> =help
[13:36:59] <crutchy> systemd: enable titles
[13:34:21] * cmn32480 uses wampum
[13:34:09] * crutchy pays in internets
[13:29:55] <Tommer> This whole process would be so much easier if SN accepted meat and produce as payment, just as people have done for all of human history. Oh, and beads.
[13:16:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh, i hate credit cards. disputes suck to have to handle in code.
[13:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> xml is teh debil
[13:15:08] <crutchy> though, at least you didn't say xml
[13:14:49] <crutchy> my condolences
[13:14:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, ya, i know. i like reading json though.
[13:14:07] <crutchy> / grabs the element
[13:13:55] <exec> 025813
[13:13:52] <crutchy> ~api m=user op=max_uid /max_uid
[13:13:46] <crutchy> tmb, can refine it further a bit
[13:13:27] <Tommer> Wow, you weren't kidding. What a gentleman. Now I'm probably on the hook for saving your life some day.
[13:12:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:10:39] <Prospectacle> ok use it wisely
[13:09:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, neil gaiman is 20k days old today
[13:08:49] <exec> 02{ "max_uid" : "5813" }
[13:08:48] <Tommer> 5813. Must be my lucky day.
[13:08:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~api m=user op=max_uid
[13:07:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently something's hosed with bitcoin subs right now as well but paulej72 is going to have to fix that cause i don't have access to bitpay live account information, just their test account.
[13:06:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Tommer, by end of year probably.
[13:06:13] <Prospectacle> I'll buy you a subscription, what's your member number?
[13:06:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i only go for prepaid CCs myself. that way i can be bob smith.
[13:05:33] <Tommer> TMB: please explain this concept of "eventually."
[13:05:31] <Prospectacle> no I'm pretty sure you can use it without signing up
[13:05:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think you do need an account but i know you can use a cc through their payment methods.
[13:05:10] <crutchy> i avoid it like the plague that it is
[13:04:59] <crutchy> yeah paypal is shit
[13:04:49] <Tommer> Paypal creeps me out. I'm off the grid, man. Actually, I didn't know you could use it without and account.
[13:04:43] <crutchy> :p
[13:04:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, don't blame me, paulej72 did the paypal stuff.
[13:03:58] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, i think Tommer is saying your payment daemon thingy is shit :p
[13:03:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Tommer, you can use a CC through paypal but we are planning to implement another CC processor eventually.
[13:03:27] <crutchy> tmb
[13:03:22] <crutchy> ^^
[13:03:20] <Prospectacle> I mean you can use paypal without getting an account
[13:03:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[13:03:03] <crutchy> ping tmb
[13:03:00] <Prospectacle> do you "not use paypal" as in refuse, or you just don't want to get an account?
[13:02:34] <Tommer> Anybody have time for a SN n00b question? I finally stopped lurking so that I could subscribe and support the site. But SN doesn't take credit cards, and I don't use Paypal. Any plan to fix this?
[13:02:03] <crutchy> was watching some weird anime. now i'm listening to madeon and contemplating some php
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[13:01:42] <Prospectacle> yourself?
[13:01:37] <Prospectacle> My weekend's good so far, I'm having some port and sitcoms
[13:01:27] <Prospectacle> hey crutchy, long time no see
[13:01:21] <crutchy> how's yer weekend?
[13:01:15] <crutchy> Prospectacle, g'day dude!
[13:00:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1570
[13:00:47] <crutchy> coffee++ # paying respect to the coffee gods
[12:59:56] <cmn32480> my sincerest apoliogies if I have offended the Coffee Gods. Please do not make me drink decaf as punishment
[12:59:51] <Prospectacle> I wonder if many studies have been done on this. brb
[12:59:48] <Prospectacle> I wonder if many studies have been done on this. brbr
[12:59:37] <Prospectacle> if that makes any sense
[12:59:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1569
[12:59:32] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:59:32] <Prospectacle> I find the timing of my caffine intake each day makes as much of a difference as the amount
[12:59:24] <cmn32480> GIMME CAFFINE BITCH!
[12:58:19] <crutchy> thas moar like it :p
[12:58:03] <cmn32480> crutchy - you prefer "Gimme caffine bitch!"
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[12:56:21] <cmn32480> jsut the wrong kind
[12:56:18] <cmn32480> that is certainly brown liquid teeming wiht life...
[12:56:04] <cmn32480> ummm... no
[12:55:43] <crutchy> cmn32480, i don't recommend you work at a wastewater treatment plant
[12:54:04] <cmn32480> oh blessed brown liquid of life, please bestow upon me the engery to get throgh this day until I am on vacation at 5pm. Amen.
[12:52:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1568
[12:52:19] <cmn32480> coffee++
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[12:25:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1567
[12:25:28] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:23:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Bot That Cried Wolf: Battery Tracking Poses No Real Privacy Threat - http://sylnt.us - overcharged-reaction
[12:15:11] <Prospectacle> interesting
[12:02:02] <Subsentient> ahh
[12:01:49] <CoolHand> just wondered.. stimulants have that effect on my adhd kid.. (calming him)
[12:01:18] <Subsentient> CoolHand: Yes, why
[12:01:03] <CoolHand> Subsentient: adhd?
[11:57:45] <Subsentient> Prospectacle: Coffee puts me to sleep.
[11:50:07] <Prospectacle> a high anxiety burst and then it wore off pretty quickly
[11:49:58] <Prospectacle> I once read about someone smoking it but they said it wasn't very good
[11:49:10] <Prospectacle> I find waiting about an hour between doses (even if they're fairly big doses) and trying to do some intellectually challenging task in between
[11:49:09] <CoolHand> straight into the veins...
[11:48:37] <Prospectacle> What do you find gives the best effect for daily coffee consumption.
[11:43:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1566
[11:43:42] <CoolHand> coffee++
[11:22:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Airbnb to Roll-over on Ireland's Hosts - http://sylnt.us - death-and-taxes
[11:01:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, i should fix up some zones in my everquest emulator for 75+ folks. which right now consists entirely of me.
[10:46:41] <SirFinkus> to be technical
[10:46:36] <SirFinkus> house was made in 1946, the wiring isn't really "up to code"
[10:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun. time to find out which power supplies were made in china.
[10:43:45] <SirFinkus> oh sweet, thunderstorm
[10:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, okay, prolly not today. still having a less than fun cold.
[10:39:54] <crutchy> s/work/work dev/
[10:39:35] <crutchy> i should prolly put geany on my work vms
[10:39:15] <crutchy> though i use geany on my desktop, and in some ways it kinda kicks gedit's ass
[10:39:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> gvim as well
[10:38:51] <crutchy> lucky there's gedit for windows
[10:38:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i may put some effort into getting rosetta stone working under wine today.
[10:38:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really couldn't say. if it can't be done on linux, i don't do it.
[10:37:07] <Prospectacle> I would love to see studies on average program time per person. I'll bet the operating system specific tasks (programs only available on that operating system), has gone from about 50-60% to about 20% in the last 20 years
[10:37:04] <exec> titles disabled for 10#Soylent
[10:37:03] <crutchy> ~title off
[10:36:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, android already took care of that for phones and tablets. linux is everywhere now except on proper pcs
[10:35:25] <Prospectacle> "The year of the linux desktop" has become a joke, but it's not because the gap (to viability) isn't shrinking, it's just because fans have been over-optimistic of the rate. It's clearly shrinking
[10:33:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. most people can get by with a phone, which for the vast majority means zero windows.
[10:33:44] <Prospectacle> most of the co-ordination, groupware, communication software we use at work is web-based
[10:33:31] <Prospectacle> still, personal experiences aside, i've noticed fewer and fewer things on the list of what people use that requires windows
[10:32:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i do maintain a winders 7 dual boot partition in case i ever have to though. it's easier than having to set it up if i actually do find something i can't live without.
[10:32:03] <Prospectacle> I run it for one compiler I use at work, and itunes
[10:31:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Prospectacle, anything but "some games" in my experience. i don't n haven't run windows since xp days.
[10:30:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> well maybe aluminum
[10:29:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> not your standard take a plate or two off. take half the case off then you still have a hunk of steel motherboard bracket right over top of the battery. have to take the entire motherboard out.
[10:28:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> technically you should still be able to clear the settings in the boot manager but to do that you have to take the computer way, way apart to get where you can unplug the battery
[10:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, i lied. it's an MSI ms-1759
[10:27:35] <Prospectacle> So will secureboot just make people start selling linux laptops again?
[10:27:06] <Prospectacle> Email can be done on anything, as can word processing, spreadsheets, etc
[10:26:55] <Prospectacle> I mean I'm a dev and more and more of my work is moving to the web, meaning I don't need windows-specific compilers
[10:26:34] <Prospectacle> I think a large proportion of jobs these days don't require windows. Maybe an increasing proportion. What do you think, is there any research on this?
[10:25:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> some alienware doodad, lemme go check.
[10:25:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> they'll still make motherboards that allow it, they'll just charge extra
[10:25:26] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I'd like to do research
[10:25:22] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: do you have a model number?
[10:25:01] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: now just imagine how bad now that OEMs aren't even asked to allow disabling it
[10:24:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, nope, win8
[10:24:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Prospectacle, dunno. used to be you could have probably replaced explorer.exe as the shell with virtualbox or vmware or whatever
[10:24:35] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: by chance is this a "windows 10" laptop?
[10:24:06] <Prospectacle> Can you get a "boot into command line" mode for windows still, and if so could you have it auto-run a VM with linux immediately?
[10:23:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[10:23:36] <Prospectacle> What's the smallest amount of windows code you'd need to allow, to run linux in a VM. I mean if you had a computer with windows on it already and you couldn't disable secure boot?
[10:23:34] <Subsentient> holy fuck
[10:23:31] <Subsentient> boot from CD?
[10:23:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> and disk
[10:23:29] <Subsentient> holy shit
[10:23:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, they disabled usb boot as well
[10:23:12] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: He can run Fedora on it
[10:22:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, my roomie has a laptop that you can't disable it on. which sucks cause he actually did want linux on it.
[10:22:00] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I'm fucking livid about secure boot, and I have been for a while, and the Win10 thing with not requiring the ability to disable it is just so much worse.
[10:21:31] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -21
[10:21:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> microsoft-- #DWITH_MOUSE_EXCEPTION
[10:21:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> granted, the rest of their stuff is crap
[10:21:02] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -20
[10:21:02] <aqu4> microsoft--
[10:20:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey now, they make a pretty good mouse.
[10:20:49] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -19
[10:20:49] <Subsentient> microsoft--
[10:18:38] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -18
[10:18:38] <JamesNZ> microsoft--
[10:18:37] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -17
[10:18:37] <JamesNZ> microsoft--
[10:17:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1565
[10:17:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:05:20] <Subsentient> thanks
[10:05:17] <Subsentient> Prospectacle: yup, me too :^)
[10:04:47] <Prospectacle> i hope you win
[10:04:43] <Prospectacle> nice one
[10:02:50] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | I just filed an antitrust complaint against Microsoft.
[10:02:26] <Subsentient> Prospectacle: good. https://soylentnews.org
[10:02:16] <Prospectacle> hi subsentient. How are you, and how is epoch?
[09:51:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australia's Federal Court Backs ISPs in Row over Illegal Downloads - http://sylnt.us - Down-Under-Loads
[09:43:34] <SirFinkus> I have almost finished this entire "pizza"
[09:35:59] <Subsentient> been a while
[09:35:51] <Subsentient> Prospectacle: hi
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[09:25:28] <Prospectacle> bbl
[09:20:59] <Prospectacle> in "Draw" of all places
[09:20:56] <Prospectacle> i discovered recently, much to my surprise, that you can edit PDFs with libreoffice now
[09:20:35] <Prospectacle> lol
[09:20:14] <chromas> don't need word now thst wordpad has the ribbon
[09:20:12] * SirFinkus is listening to Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band — Moonlight on Vermont, from the album Trout Mask Replica
[09:19:52] <Prospectacle> you do get a lot of stuff out of the box, but many things you specifically, pointedly don't get. wordpad vs word for example
[09:19:51] * chromas didn't
[09:19:39] <SirFinkus> although you needed to put in another disk for that
[09:19:31] <SirFinkus> Hover motherfucker
[09:19:07] <Prospectacle> those were the days
[09:19:04] <Prospectacle> well windows is moving towards freemium it seems. Remember when all their games were offline and pre-installed
[09:18:51] <Prospectacle> lol
[09:18:45] <chromas> "You can click three spaces in minesweeper today, or buy 5 additional spaces for 500 schmeckels"
[09:17:57] <chromas> ooh, freemium os
[09:17:31] <Prospectacle> free vs "free" vs freemium vs pay-me-over-and-over-and-over-again-my-friend
[09:17:30] * chromas has a moment of psilence for those who must use windows for work or whatever
[09:17:12] <Prospectacle> privacy vs security vs law enforcement
[09:16:57] <Prospectacle> I wish I could read about this period of software and networking in history books, but alas it hasn't finished yet
[09:16:25] <chromas> I'm just doing it 'cause it's a free shiny. I don't actually use windows
[09:16:03] <SirFinkus> good point
[09:15:50] <chromas> I dunno; it's windows either way
[09:15:32] <SirFinkus> don't you mean downgrading?
[09:15:15] <Prospectacle> that's mighty good to hear SirFinkus
[09:13:39] * chromas is upgrading illegtimiate windows 7 VMs to authentic 10
[09:13:38] <SirFinkus> neat
[09:11:35] <Prospectacle> how are you all?
[09:11:33] <Prospectacle> i may have been drinking
[09:11:25] <Prospectacle> greetings everybody
[09:11:20] <Prospectacle> finally!
[09:11:18] <Prospectacle> hooray prospectacle is back
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[08:58:28] <crutchy> those poor souls
[08:54:49] <SirFinkus> yes
[08:43:18] <crutchy> people still buy HP laptops?
[08:39:33] <SirFinkus> "it's not our fault of HP laptops only run windows" etc
[08:39:11] <SirFinkus> I think what they're trying to do is sneak around the antitrust stuff by merely "allowing" OEMs to add a toggle switch
[08:37:20] <SirFinkus> then, the US SEC will fine them half a day's profits and move on with it
[08:36:52] <SirFinkus> I suspect what will happen is there will be "EU" laptops and versions of windows that only work in the EU, some kind of region coding bullshit
[08:36:24] <crutchy> Gravis, you're toying with my emotions
[08:36:22] * Subsentient filed for the US, hopes it does some good
[08:36:14] <SirFinkus> or at least pretend to
[08:36:09] <SirFinkus> I fully expect the EU to slap their shit
[08:36:01] <SirFinkus> hmm, well, good luck
[08:35:49] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: A new antitrust complaint was filed in the EU, and they're taking it seriously this time. I don't see any filings for the US however.
[08:33:45] <SirFinkus> just yelling into the echo chamber
[08:33:36] <SirFinkus> yeah, I'm pretty aware of their shenanigans
[08:33:13] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: they just made it possible that you can't turn it off.
[08:32:35] <SirFinkus> and if it isn't easy to securely add, let me turn it off
[08:32:01] <SirFinkus> yeah, and it seems like it would be easy to add
[08:31:43] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: see, you're not. That's the point.
[08:29:10] <SirFinkus> as long as I'm in charge of it
[08:29:00] <SirFinkus> this kind of thing really annoys me because secure boot is a good feature
[08:27:02] <SirFinkus> win 10 has only been out for a few weeks really
[08:26:42] <SirFinkus> something might happen eventually
[08:26:37] <SirFinkus> naw, I'm sure the EFF and everyone has already bitched about it
[08:26:16] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: think my antitrust complaint will do anything?
[08:26:01] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: lol
[08:24:57] * SirFinkus should have called you to let you know
[08:24:45] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: ahh right
[08:24:27] <SirFinkus> Subsentient: might want to edit your phone number out
[08:07:48] <Subsentient> I'll unzip your mouth tomorrow.
[08:07:34] <Subsentient> I've explained myself well and persistence beyond this point is unethical of YOU.
[08:07:20] <Subsentient> Gravis: I consider this harassment.
[08:06:52] -!- mode/#Soylent [+q Gravis!*@*] by aqu4
[08:06:52] <aqu4> Ok.
[08:06:52] <Subsentient> $chanctl quiet Gravis
[08:06:28] <Gravis> Subsentient: just stop toying with the emotions of other people and it won't bite you back
[08:05:13] <Subsentient> Gravis: If they do, there is something wrong with them. This is the last time I tell you to drop this topic.
[08:04:44] <Gravis> Subsentient: you dont think disgusting people makes them have anger and resentment?
[08:04:42] <Subsentient> Gravis: Drop this topic.
[08:04:19] <aqu4> You are Subsentient!WhiteRat@Soylent/Staff/Editor/Subsentient, and you are an admin, and an owner.
[08:04:19] <Subsentient> $whoami
[08:04:19] <Gravis> Subsentient: but it links to other emotions like anger.
[08:04:14] <Subsentient> Gravis: I'm a vegetarian for ethical reasons, I devout socialist, an animal rights activist, and I don't need to take your shit.
[08:03:40] <Subsentient> Gravis: I wouldn't have done the same to you. 'eww' is not distress.
[08:03:19] <Gravis> Subsentient: so you causing other people distress is ok but if it happens to you they should stop immediately?
[08:01:37] <Subsentient> Gravis: You've caused me significant pain last time we had this conversation, resulting in introspection and a sad evening. I suggest you drop this topic.
[08:01:09] <Gravis> Subsentient: so no, that is not an answer.
[08:01:09] <Subsentient> I've never heard of it.
[08:00:57] <Gravis> actually, parent do get upset at children who do that too their siblings
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[08:00:04] <Subsentient> Gravis: A brother terrifying his little sister is wrong, but nobody gets upset if he makes her say "eww" by showing her an earthworm. Does that answer your question?
[07:59:29] <Gravis> Subsentient: no, it's about you.
[07:59:16] <Subsentient> Gravis: Oh, is this about the imgur 'eww' thing?
[07:58:31] <Gravis> Subsentient: why do you think that trying to evoke one particular negative emotion (disgust) from someone is ok but think it's abhorant to evoke another kind of negative emotion (anger/fright/sarrow) from someone?
[07:50:00] <Subsentient> crutchy: yes it does
[07:49:55] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | I just filed an antitrust complaint against Microsoft.
[07:49:49] <Subsentient> I just filed an antitrust complaint against MS for Secure Boot. https://soylentnews.org
[07:45:47] <crutchy> does nexus combine multiple clients into a single nick?
[07:19:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chelsea Manning Faces Solitary Confinement - http://sylnt.us - Ministry-of-Love
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[05:55:34] <Subsentient> AndyTheAbsurd: call to find out
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[04:47:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM's Watson for Personality Analysis - http://sylnt.us - sudo-whoami
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[04:04:09] <SpallsHurgenson> they're surprisingly comfortable!
[04:03:30] <Gravis> <BadCoderFinger> Err, time for an adult article of protective clothing? <-- i read that out of context and thought, "like... a bulletproof gimp suit?" ;D
[03:48:06] <SpallsHurgenson> the universe was easier to understand before we started trying to understand it
[03:16:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mystery Deepens: Matter and Antimatter Are Mirror Images - http://sylnt.us
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[02:17:34] <BadCoderFinger> Err, time for an adult article of protective clothing?
[02:16:54] <SirFinkus> I shit myself in a winco a few nights ago
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[02:15:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NBN's 'Sky Muster' Satellite Gets Launch Date - http://sylnt.us
[02:11:39] <BadCoderFinger> "Cleanup on aisle 3!"
[02:11:17] * SpallsHurgenson has just learned a valuable if messy lesson as to why you shouldn't scare kitty when she's using her box
[02:05:44] <BadCoderFinger> No kidding!
[02:04:32] <SpallsHurgenson> and now you remember why
[02:02:21] <BadCoderFinger> Holy crap, it's been a while since I've looked at perl.
[01:52:36] <BadCoderFinger> I've seen "Life of Brian," you may not like living through that ending. Although being sung out to your eternal destiny does have a nice significance.
[01:52:22] <Bender> Quote 294 - <SpallsHurgenson> well, I gotta admit I do have a really nice ass
[01:52:22] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote 294
[01:52:16] <SpallsHurgenson> forever shall I be revered for saying things like...
[01:51:04] <SpallsHurgenson> my words shall become as holy writ unto them; they shall build their society around my teachings
[01:50:18] <BadCoderFinger> That's a lot of quotes, Spalls. To think, our biggest contribution to future generations seems to be your words.
[01:49:15] <Bender> Also in quotes: 21, 24, 50, 57, 72, 202, 245, 261, 273, 277, 283, 284, 285, 286, 287, 294, 309, 313, 318, 324, 326, 341, 348, 349, 376, 377, 380, 383, 384, 387, 389, 392, 400, 411, 473, 483, 484, 497, 524, 531, 538, 539
[01:49:11] <Bender> Quote 15 - <SpallsHurgenson> as a nerd, I am unfamiliar with this thing you call "sunlight"
[01:49:11] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote SpallsHurgenson
[01:48:51] <SirFinkus> hehe "spurt"
[01:48:29] <SpallsHurgenson> disturbing.
[01:48:13] <BadCoderFinger> Probably you entered a new line before the grab of the originally intended quote.
[01:48:07] <Bender> Quote 407 - <SirFinkus> because the implication is a several day long "nice spurt"
[01:48:07] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote 407
[01:47:33] <Bender> Also in quotes: 162, 163, 164, 165, 253, 295, 306, 352, 399, 402, 407, 418, 453, 454, 489, 501, 502, 508, 521, 526, 527, 533, 534, 536
[01:47:29] <Bender> Quote 161 - <SirFinkus> huh
[01:47:29] <SirFinkus> !quote SirFinkus
[01:47:25] <SirFinkus> that was a shitty quote
[01:47:01] <SpallsHurgenson> nonetheless, valuable data for future generations when they try to understand the greatness of our civilization
[01:46:39] <SirFinkus> case sensitive
[01:46:37] <Bender> Also in quotes: 162, 163, 164, 165, 253, 295, 306, 352, 399, 402, 407, 418, 453, 454, 489, 501, 502, 508, 521, 526, 527, 533, 534, 536
[01:46:33] <Bender> Quote 161 - <SirFinkus> huh
[01:46:33] <SirFinkus> !quote SirFinkus
[01:46:20] <SpallsHurgenson> now I'm just baffled
[01:46:18] <SirFinkus> fuck, idk
[01:46:14] <Bender> No quotes found with the text 'sirfinkus'
[01:46:14] <SirFinkus> !quote sirfinkus
[01:46:00] <Bender> Quote 461 - <BadCoderFinger> Dude. It's the internet. Your pants are already online.
[01:46:00] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote 461
[01:46:00] <Bender> quote <ID/search string>
[01:45:59] <SirFinkus> !quote
[01:45:56] <BadCoderFinger> Also not that great.
[01:45:52] <SpallsHurgenson> revealing!
[01:45:43] <Bender> Quote 388 - <BadCoderFinger> I keep forgetting the grab syntax. You're safe for now...
[01:45:43] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote 388
[01:45:30] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, not sure that one was a keeper.
[01:45:28] <SpallsHurgenson> shocking!
[01:45:15] <Bender> Quote 342 - <BadCoderFinger> Dangit!
[01:45:15] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote 342
[01:44:57] <Bender> Also in quotes: 342, 388, 390, 461, 462, 463, 511, 512, 522, 529, 553
[01:44:53] <Bender> Quote 22 - <BadCoderFinger> Ethanol-fueled: I'm not certain that's the answer to the "Prisoner's Dilemma"
[01:44:52] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote BadCoderFinger
[01:44:19] <BadCoderFinger> We need chromas to explain the intricacies.
[01:43:55] <SpallsHurgenson> sadly, I've forgotten all the other quote-related commands
[01:43:25] <BadCoderFinger> HA!
[01:43:18] <Bender> Added quote 553
[01:43:18] <SpallsHurgenson> !grab BadCoderFinger
[01:43:12] <SpallsHurgenson> also
[01:43:10] <SpallsHurgenson> silence falls across the channel as we all consider the implications of that last statement
[01:41:21] <BadCoderFinger> Perversion is the only point to astral projection!
[01:40:58] <SirFinkus> I'm an astral projection pervert
[01:40:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I actually stopped watching Beastmaster. Too many close ups of Marc Singer's leather-covered crotch
[01:39:55] <BadCoderFinger> Yet I have no webcam. Holy crap, you've been watching too many sword and sorcery movies, you've gone and bought a crystal ball, haven't you?
[01:39:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I can see many things.
[01:38:52] <BadCoderFinger> (Can you see my hand raised?)
[01:38:21] <SpallsHurgenson> (raise your hand if you saw that response coming)
[01:38:20] <BadCoderFinger> Good, got that down.
[01:38:06] <SpallsHurgenson> yes
[01:38:00] <BadCoderFinger> Is it you or me?
[01:37:33] <SpallsHurgenson> (I think one of us is confused)
[01:36:58] <SpallsHurgenson> I just recommend hopping.
[01:36:31] <SpallsHurgenson> I live somewhere close to a place too!
[01:36:30] <BadCoderFinger> I highly recommend Hop Abomination.
[01:35:05] <BadCoderFinger> I live somewhat close to Drydock brewery.
[01:35:03] <SpallsHurgenson> and twenty times more palatable :)
[01:34:46] <BadCoderFinger> Not that I've seen. Zima is cause for nuclear war.
[01:34:28] <SpallsHurgenson> there they have Zima :)
[01:34:24] <SpallsHurgenson> Well of course, Colorado.
[01:34:04] <BadCoderFinger> Speak for yourself! I get really good beer in Colorado. And no, I don't mean Coors.
[01:33:35] <SpallsHurgenson> alternately alternately, they could just give the 'mericans some real beer. After subsisting on Coors and Bud, a half-teaspoon of the real stuff should knock 'em right out
[01:33:14] <BadCoderFinger> And yes, he can talk for extended periods about it. He is considerate, though, he'll wake me if I nod off.
[01:32:41] <BadCoderFinger> I have a Canadian friend who is really into hockey. Shocking, I know.
[01:32:24] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[01:31:17] <SpallsHurgenson> either that or they'll bore the poor guards to death by talking to them about hockey for sixteen hours (or as the Cannucks call it, "a brief chat")
[01:30:31] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, that's true.
[01:28:18] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, the Cannucks are tricky... they'll probably say all that in French and the Americans - afraid to be exposed as the monolingual intellectual inferiors - will just wave them through :)
[01:27:23] * Deucalion exits stage left - be well :)
[01:27:01] <BadCoderFinger> Do you think the US border patrol is smart enough to say, "No, not today."
[01:26:59] * Deucalion realises he as no idea what is going on
[01:26:04] <SpallsHurgenson> "Pardon me, oh I do apologize, you don't mind if we - oh this is quite embarassing - if we, well... invade? If it's not too much bother? Eh?"
[01:25:14] <BadCoderFinger> Canada is invading!
[01:25:06] * Deucalion glances around
[01:24:39] <SpallsHurgenson> in fact, it sounds almost... Canadian
[01:24:31] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm afraid your food doesn't qualify as ultimate american food
[01:24:13] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm...
[01:24:12] <SirFinkus> which I'm sure is just as bad for you as bacon
[01:24:04] <SirFinkus> no, but pepperoni
[01:23:36] <SpallsHurgenson> is there bacon involved?
[01:23:07] <SirFinkus> it does have a butter and salt glazed crust
[01:22:03] <SpallsHurgenson> it better be deep fried in batter!
[01:21:20] <SirFinkus> but instead of tomato sauce, cheese sauce
[01:21:10] <SirFinkus> pizza
[01:21:05] <SirFinkus> I'm eating the ultimate american food
[01:07:45] <BadCoderFinger> I wouldn't be surprised.
[01:06:59] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of pointless brutality, have the US police made the news again today?
[01:05:35] <BadCoderFinger> It's the personal touch that sets you apart. In any case, it's easy to kill someone who's standing around thinking, "Where are that guy's pants?"
[01:05:09] <SpallsHurgenson> ... but perhaps I've said too much
[01:04:38] <SpallsHurgenson> I take pride that all my deaths have been lovingly hand crafted!
[01:04:35] <BadCoderFinger> I used to work for a medical device company, so "Death Automation" would be accurate.
[01:04:11] <SpallsHurgenson> that would be dishonest!
[01:03:09] <swiss> just list "death automation" on your resume
[01:02:31] <SpallsHurgenson> no, the -d at the end of the word sounds too final, it closes the joke before you get to the death machines bit
[01:02:23] <swiss> and click
[01:02:21] <swiss> just point them at whatever you want dead
[01:02:12] <swiss> lets just call guns automated death machines
[01:02:12] <BadCoderFinger> Either way, we're doomed.
[01:02:08] <swiss> actually
[01:02:00] <swiss> automated
[01:01:50] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... maybe I should have said "autonomous death machine"... does that sound funnier?
[01:00:25] * SpallsHurgenson kicks a nearby pebble grumpily, "Shucks, I sure wish I had my own blindl loyal murderous death machine..."
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[00:49:31] <SpallsHurgenson> that's what the hunter-killer robots are for, I suppose
[00:47:30] <BadCoderFinger> Or not. Surprising how grouchy they can be.
[00:47:08] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm sure the billions of tormented dead will understand
[00:45:43] <BadCoderFinger> But I gotta eat. End of civilization as we know it? Meh.
[00:45:35] <SpallsHurgenson> well, just so you are aware
[00:45:24] <BadCoderFinger> That could be.
[00:38:05] <SpallsHurgenson> don't do it! it's the primary processor of the CyberOverlord! As soon as they get it working, all Humanity is doomed, doomed, DOOMED I tell you!
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[00:36:45] <BadCoderFinger> I'm good. Working on some odd hardware at work, but I'll get it figured out.
[00:36:31] <everdred> [D
[00:36:28] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, don't make fun of me; I'm lysdexic!
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[00:36:02] <BadCoderFinger> Wow man, way to mangle a nick!
[00:34:33] <SpallsHurgenson> so... how are things in the world of BacDoferDinger?
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[00:31:57] <exec> └─ 13Monster of the Week: Winged Devourers (Beastmaster) | Stuff to Blow Your Mind
[00:31:54] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.stufftoblowyourmind.com
[00:30:44] <SpallsHurgenson> (oooh, we're at the part of the movie with the evil birdpeople... I used to think these guys were so cool)
[00:30:26] <BadCoderFinger> It had the 80s trifecta of swords, wizards, and boobs.
[00:29:54] <BadCoderFinger> (I think it was the second one...)
[00:29:39] <BadCoderFinger> I really only liked the second one, it was a comedy.
[00:29:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I saw Deathstalker back when it was new... it certainly looks like a movie I would have gone to see :)
[00:27:54] * BadCoderFinger adds a new euphemism to the notebook.
[00:27:05] <SpallsHurgenson> whew... now I'm all out of popcorn :)
[00:26:51] <BadCoderFinger> That tinfoil "wrapped" webcam may betray you.
[00:26:25] <BadCoderFinger> Right...
[00:25:43] <SpallsHurgenson> what, I just mean I'm eating some popcorn!
[00:24:58] <BadCoderFinger> Way too much information there.
[00:24:40] <SpallsHurgenson> (can't type, need hands :)
[00:24:23] <SpallsHurgenson> one moment... we're getting to the best part of 80s sword'n'sorcery movies... blatant boobies!
[00:23:33] <BadCoderFinger> Did you ever see the Deathstalker movies?
[00:22:15] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, a lot.
[00:21:59] <SpallsHurgenson> the 80s really seemed to have a thing for boomerang-like weapons, didn't it?
[00:21:17] <BadCoderFinger> Internet: Stuff that doesn't matter, News for trivia nerds
[00:20:52] <SpallsHurgenson> and the Internet is usally reliable on pointless stuff like that :)
[00:19:36] <SpallsHurgenson> Kodo and Podo, says the Internet
[00:19:22] <SpallsHurgenson> haven't got to the rats yet; they're still doing the backstory
[00:18:56] <BadCoderFinger> I've forgotten the ferret names, though.
[00:18:48] <SpallsHurgenson> the actor's broad californian accent really isn't helping to sell the fantasy either
[00:18:12] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, very good!
[00:18:04] <BadCoderFinger> I'm shamefully admitting too much knowledge of that movie, but isn't his name Dar?
[00:17:25] <BadCoderFinger> Sharp knives in those days.
[00:16:39] <SpallsHurgenson> the hero of Beastmaster is disturbingly well shaved
[00:15:02] <BadCoderFinger> "I had a transplant, and suddenly I no longer like bacon! WTF?"
[00:14:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Surgeons Smash Records With Pig-to-Primate Organ Transplants - http://sylnt.us - with-free-curly-tail
[00:13:44] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, it was a product of its time.
[00:13:18] <SpallsHurgenson> the original V was okay but the series became very soap-operay
[00:12:47] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, maybe good to space it out a bit.
[00:12:04] <SpallsHurgenson> however I am not sure I can take that much terribleness in one night
[00:11:56] <BadCoderFinger> Sadly, me too. Just as cheesy as I remember.
[00:11:41] <SpallsHurgenson> I have the original miniseries on DVD :)
[00:11:22] <BadCoderFinger> That is a great horrible movie! You should follow it up with the series "V"
[00:10:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I have decided that tonight is the night to watch a horrible movie. I have decided on "Beastmaster"
[00:10:10] <BadCoderFinger> Heh! You managed to cloak yourself!
[00:09:51] NerdJock is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[00:09:46] <NerdJock> hold on a second... gotta change my nick. I keep seeing "nerdjock" and wondering who that is :)
[00:09:38] <BadCoderFinger> I think that is a net positive.
[00:08:50] <NerdJock> well according to recent polls, I still have two feet!
[00:07:08] <BadCoderFinger> How are you, by the way?
[00:06:59] <BadCoderFinger> Good! Keep it that way!
[00:06:51] <NerdJock> nobody gets any freebies :)
[00:06:38] <NerdJock> my webcam is appropriately wrapped in tinfoil
[00:05:59] <BadCoderFinger> Your room, naturally! And will you take down that webcam! Think of the poor defenseless children on the internet!
[00:05:06] <NerdJock> your innuendo is too sophisticated for me to unravel
[00:03:19] <BadCoderFinger> Only in one place...
[00:02:52] <NerdJock> don't believe anything they say! the pants are a lie!
[00:02:35] <BadCoderFinger> Your pants were in here earlier, warning everybody.
[00:02:19] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[00:02:06] <NerdJock> my cunning disguise has been pierced!
[00:01:14] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls
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