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[00:08:19] <crutchy_> http://imgur.com
[00:08:22] <exec> └─ 13Title - Album on Imgur
[00:08:46] <crutchy_> ahh right! who fucking posted the initial imgur link!? now i'm trapped fucket!
[00:11:45] <crutchy_> nyaww lol. http://imgur.com
[00:11:48] <exec> └─ 13d'aawww - Album on Imgur
[00:11:49] <crutchy_> puppies++
[00:11:49] <Bender> karma - puppies: 1
[00:12:37] <crutchy_> lmao @ comment: "I need one for my cat that says "IF YOU CAN READ THIS I WILL KILL YOU"
[00:14:04] <crutchy_> wtf. /me just realised he's had a pair of headphones on for the last half hour with nothing playing through them :/
[00:28:24] <juggs> Ha, I find myself doing that too crutchy_ - music finishes and I'm busy doing something else then realise some considerable time later I still have the 'phones on.
[00:29:23] <juggs> And yep there is a SN steam group - unsurprisingly called "SoylentNews" - not sure it really means anything - maybe we can co-op on something at some point.
[00:29:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Founder of GNU Bestows Blessing Upon Open Source Crowdfunding Site - http://sylnt.us - the-times-they-are-a-changin'
[00:29:45] <juggs> And what's with the crutchy + crutchy_ ?
[00:30:33] <crutchy_> xchat is running on my desktop. i'm on my lappy on the couch :)
[00:30:57] <juggs> Ohhh - that's why you were asking about Subsentient's irc proxy creation thing.
[00:31:25] <juggs> I believe that is the scenario he built it for if I understood correctly
[00:45:09] <Subsentient> juggs: you understood correctly.
[00:45:12] * Subsentient glares at crutchy
[00:45:20] <Subsentient> crutchy: Want me to run a NEXUS for you?
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[00:46:22] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[00:46:26] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Eeeuuuurrrreeeuuuugggghhhh!
[00:46:35] <Ethanol-fueled> No more of that for awhile. I'm dried out.
[00:46:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Really, I am this time.
[00:46:40] <Subsentient> lol
[00:46:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I CAN QUIT ANYTIME I WANT.
[00:47:00] <juggs> prove it
[00:47:03] <Ethanol-fueled> How ya doin?
[00:47:17] Ethanol-fueled is now known as SoyGuest46028
[00:47:21] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Working on a package manager for a new desktop distro I'll eventually be making.
[00:47:33] <SoyGuest46028> juggs - I will prove it by leaving later without telling everybody to sod off and without posting links to GG Allin videos.
[00:47:44] <SoyGuest46028> subsentient, do we really need another package manager?
[00:48:03] <juggs> That'd be good for day 1 - think you can make it to 60 days?
[00:48:20] <SoyGuest46028> Not 60. Probably 24.
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[00:48:35] <Subsentient> SoyGuest46028: Yeah. It will have no dependency resolution, but will have no such thing as a -dev package. It will be stupid easy to build packages.
[00:48:41] <juggs> Oddly precise number of days :/
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[00:49:32] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Yeah. It will have no dependency resolution, but will have no such thing as a -dev package. It will be stupid easy to build packages.
[00:49:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Not really, juggs, it's 3 weeks exactly.
[00:50:04] <Ethanol-fueled> why are you doing it, subsentient? Just because?
[00:50:20] <juggs> Hmm - 3*7 = 21 or do your weeks have 8 days each?
[00:50:24] <Subsentient> This distro will be built around the Epoch Init System, a vanilla design principle, support x86, x86_64, and hopefully ARM and PPC.
[00:50:33] <Ethanol-fueled> right, juggs. Still withdrawing.
[00:50:44] <juggs> Best of luck
[00:51:00] <Ethanol-fueled> which is why I made a serious effort...because hangovers became withdrawals.
[00:51:12] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: It's designed not to be a Poettering cesspool.
[00:51:17] <Ethanol-fueled> At that point I realized that I was no better than a junkie who would suck dick for a crack rock.
[00:51:30] <juggs> Yeh - bad sign right there.
[00:52:18] <juggs> It's fun right up until the point it's not - then shit can go down hill rapidly from there. Good job identifying that cusp.
[00:52:19] <chromas> !grab Ethanol-fueled
[00:52:19] <Bender> Added quote 549
[00:53:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Took a good few days to safely taper off, and even that wasn't fun.
[00:53:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Normal...personality...returning...
[00:54:24] <Ethanol-fueled> subsentient, Poettering can stick his dick into any plate of mashed postatoes...what makes you think he won't violate yours?
[00:54:44] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Because it will be mine and I won't allow any of his bullshit in my distro.
[00:55:22] <crutchy_> he'll just take it and fork it up the ass good and hard
[00:55:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup.
[00:55:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah
[00:55:56] <crutchy_> till its all squidgy and drips a shitty mess
[00:55:58] <Ethanol-fueled> sup crutch
[00:56:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Chromas
[00:56:23] <crutchy_> ~g'day Ethanol-fueled
[00:56:24] * exec unjustifiably blows a spoon of g'day juice at Ethanol-fueled
[00:56:40] <Subsentient> $burrito Ethanol-fueled
[00:56:40] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Ethanol-fueled
[00:56:42] <Subsentient> :^D
[00:56:50] * Ethanol-fueled is immune to burritos
[00:57:02] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Impossibru!
[00:57:08] <crutchy_> Ethanol-fueled, has homeland security taken your guns yet?
[00:57:27] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't own any guns, crutchy. Whether or not I should get one has been a question for a long time.
[00:57:56] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't like the idea of having a gun in my house, I'd like to store it at a friend's or in a locker if any local ranges have them.
[00:58:01] <crutchy_> what!? you live in southern california and you don't have any guns!?
[00:58:25] <Ethanol-fueled> as of last week I drank a lot and had neighbors who really pissed me off.
[00:58:27] <crutchy_> hmm. i guess there's always broken glass bottles
[00:58:31] <chromas> gubbermint takin' our guns is just a conspiracy to drive up gun sales
[00:58:31] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAH
[00:58:34] * Subsentient only has this quark disassembler cannon
[00:59:12] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, they way they're gonna do it is pass legislation to keep them from the "mentally ill" then widen the definition of "mentally ill" to "once posted curse words online"
[00:59:23] <Ethanol-fueled> or "once raised his voice"
[00:59:31] * crutchy_ doesn't have any guns. he takes comfort knowing he lives on an island surrounded by a shark-infested moat and an abundance of deadly flora and fauna
[00:59:38] <Ethanol-fueled> and of course give doctors the ability to make that decision themselves without any reason.
[01:00:01] <chromas> they already have that ability
[01:00:28] <crutchy_> they choose whatever gets them moar monies
[01:01:16] <Ethanol-fueled> from what I understand Obamacare screwed the doctors as much as it did the patients.
[01:01:35] <Subsentient> I'd like to see a single-payer system./
[01:01:38] <Ethanol-fueled> it sure didn't screw the healthcare industry, though.
[01:01:40] * Subsentient is a socialist
[01:01:46] <Ethanol-fueled> subsentient, that would make too much sense
[01:02:03] <crutchy_> any expansion of government (especially in the US) is sure to fuck over a lot of poor/working class
[01:02:13] <juggs> sshhh - you'll summon TMB!
[01:02:21] <crutchy_> ;socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[01:02:21] <MrPlow> TheMightyBuzzard, you're a socialist!
[01:02:23] <Subsentient> I dunno, in the UK all healthcare is free.
[01:02:38] <Ethanol-fueled> "healthcare" .....UK
[01:02:39] <crutchy_> there's no such thing as a free lunch Subsentient
[01:02:42] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahah, Fun-ny.
[01:02:54] <crutchy_> australia's healthcare system is supposed to be pretty good
[01:02:58] <Subsentient> crutchy: tax payers, I know
[01:03:17] <crutchy_> but i pay over a grand out of my taxes for it every year
[01:03:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[01:03:29] * Ethanol-fueled doesn't give a damn if it's big government, small government, capitalism, socialism, if the few in charge didn't always fuck it up
[01:03:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist crutchy
[01:03:31] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[01:03:37] <juggs> Free at point of use - paid out of general taxation. But having it universally available as and when need is a societal net gain.
[01:03:55] * Subsentient gives TheMightyBuzzard a hammer and sicle
[01:04:00] <juggs> Oh gawd - the anarchist arrived!
[01:04:28] <crutchy_> juggs, i like the aussie system. if you're on a good wicket, you pay. but there's competition with private insurers
[01:04:32] <Ethanol-fueled> sup Buzzard
[01:04:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> playin video games. deciding if i want to jump in on this silliness of hippies
[01:05:18] * crutchy_ is a libertarian that takes full advantage of bulk billed doctor services
[01:05:32] <crutchy_> cos i fkin pay for it :)
[01:05:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[01:06:16] <juggs> crutchy_, same in the UK - there are plenty of private health schemes that will get you faster treatment and arguably better facilities. But the NHS is always there as the backstop - it's really not a good thing for a society to let the poorer members be ill all over the place and lay about untreated - that hampers overall productivity.
[01:06:30] <crutchy_> true
[01:06:52] <Subsentient> Couldn't get 3D acceleration working on SubLinux 2 on this brand new laptop (made in April), so I put Fedora on it, my fallback. I haven't been exposed to it for over a year on the desktop, and I really miss SubLinux. :^(
[01:07:00] <crutchy_> i've often toyed with the idea of going private. it's a tradeoff between cost and speed of treatment
[01:07:03] <juggs> I think UK, Aus and NZ are very similar in this respect.
[01:07:23] <juggs> Probably Canada too - but I am not sure on that one
[01:07:24] <crutchy_> private is a ripoff but you jump the queue. public is much cheaper but you wait
[01:07:45] <Ethanol-fueled> We're trying that with Obamacare. Not quite socialized but headed in that direction.
[01:07:55] <crutchy_> but even if you're public you can jump the queue. you just paay a bit more than private
[01:08:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm on it and pay $180 a month, and I believe I get some tax credits for being a poorfag.
[01:08:05] <Subsentient> Obamacare is an excellent attempt, but execution? F-.
[01:08:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, yeah, it was pretty much a raw deal for the ratepayers and a handout to the industry. But I was hooked up in a day with NO WAIT over the phone almost instantly.
[01:08:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm immune to your foolish bamacare
[01:08:43] <crutchy_> my missus has seen a few private surgeons lately. costs a lot, but prolly still cheaper than private cover in the end. different strokes i guess
[01:09:22] <juggs> General taxation going to a bunch of insurance firms as far as I can work out, replete with the overcharging that brings. However, I can't see a fully nationalised health service getting any traction in the US.
[01:09:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> me too. makes me happy.
[01:09:54] <crutchy_> biggest problem with public healthcare is making sure its paid for. i think aussie parliament is toying with increasing the medicare levy. as much as i'll cop it its prolly a good idea
[01:10:16] <crutchy_> passing the buck to my kids is wrong
[01:10:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, biggest problem is it's forced at gunpoint
[01:10:45] <Ethanol-fueled> What I don't like is that I get the impression that taxpayer rates are subsidizing the bad debt expense the industry gets when it is required to provide care to bums and illegals.
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[01:10:55] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: oh
[01:11:00] <Subsentient> you missed a good one http://i.imgur.com
[01:11:22] <juggs> Every western nation is doing that anyway with the debt mountain crutchy_ - apparently we hope to inflate it away - which is kind of a problem when our economies stop growing.
[01:13:20] <Ethanol-fueled> What's your all's take on the lifting of the Iran Sanctions?
[01:13:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, smooth, almost bedtime. yet again i triumph over a boring day.
[01:13:27] <crutchy_> i don't mind the idea of looking after the poor to some extent. its the cost of living in an otherwise wealthy society. its only when the government opens the welfare floodgates that i think fucks up the system
[01:14:07] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, when in history was taxation ever voluntary? Do you think socialised health care for the poorer in society could be funded by passing around the metaphorical hat to the richer to throw some coins in? I'm sure that wouldn;t work in the UK and damn sure it would not fly in the US.
[01:14:09] <Ethanol-fueled> agreed, crutchy. They're not "refugees," they're "welfare tourists."
[01:14:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, fuck em. i ain't askeert of wwiii
[01:14:15] <crutchy_> Ethanol-fueled, iran only has sanctions on the US. its all about giving haliburton the rights to sink their teeth into iran's oil
[01:14:28] <Ethanol-fueled> And why aren't the Arab countries accepting all those refugees?
[01:14:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, never. doesn't make it just though.
[01:14:36] <crutchy_> iran has been doing business with russia and china for years
[01:14:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, I think the US and Iran should team up to crush Saudia Arabia and Israel.
[01:15:12] <crutchy_> you'd need to crush the neocons in congress first :p
[01:15:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, do it or not on a non-federal basis then. allow people the choice to not participate and all is good.
[01:15:26] <Ethanol-fueled> agreed, crutchy...fifth-columnist traitors they are.
[01:15:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> dafuq would we wanna attack israel for?
[01:15:59] <crutchy_> tmb, in australia if you get private healthcare you pay less medicare levy. choice is goood :)
[01:16:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Okay, attack Bibi and spare Israel.
[01:16:14] <crutchy_> tmb, cos they're a bunch of nasty cunts?
[01:16:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought you was all yay jew chick boobies lately.
[01:16:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy_, ya. it takes a real buncha bastards to get randomly killed regularly.
[01:17:09] <crutchy_> true. it must suck being a palestinian
[01:17:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Okay, maybe we shouldn't attack them...but we should withdraw and let them crumble.
[01:17:30] * TheMightyBuzzard kicks crutchy for trolling him
[01:17:39] <crutchy_> :D
[01:18:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, betcha a dollar they run the middle east within a decade if we do.
[01:18:11] <crutchy_> fuck. i gotta go visit the inlaws. think i'd rather be kicked :/
[01:18:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> they DO have nukes
[01:18:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Who, Israel? Let 'em run the middle-East.
[01:18:38] <Ethanol-fueled> run, ruin, same thing in that shithole.
[01:18:39] <crutchy_> ...into the ground
[01:19:07] <Ethanol-fueled> As much as I dislike their influence on American politics they're a lot more intelligent than the goat-fuckers.
[01:19:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i generally don't care about over there unless someone's talkin bullshit in favor of Palestinians
[01:19:24] <crutchy_> the mid east is just a proxy war between russia and the west anyway
[01:19:42] <crutchy_> china is cleaning up the spoils inbetween :p
[01:20:00] <Ethanol-fueled> If the goat-fuckers didn't have oil (and by extension money to buy everybody off) they'd be either dead or still in the stone-age.
[01:20:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally i think we should pull out of everywhere and let em kill each other. see how long it takes until everyone's begging us to stick our noses back in everyone's business.
[01:21:07] <Ethanol-fueled> good call, buzzard. I'm an isolationist myself.
[01:21:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me. i do think we oughta be paid for helpin a fucker though.
[01:22:13] <Ethanol-fueled> That would make us mercenaries, Buzzard. Or are we already?
[01:22:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> mercenaries is a good thing. it's honest.
[01:22:46] <crutchy_> tmb, the reason why you're in everyone's business is because you're mercs
[01:22:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, good point.
[01:23:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy_, mercs get paid.
[01:23:09] <crutchy_> foreign countries buy off your politicians, and then your military does their bidding
[01:23:20] <crutchy_> foreign reserves etc
[01:23:31] <juggs> They wouldn't ask anyone to come in TMB. Some sect would dominate and unite the region and then sweep across Europe. I think we kinda played this scenario out a couple of millenia ago. Hence why we like to dip in and out keeping the region unstable, randomly supporting regimes that we later go back in and destroy.
[01:23:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Good call, Juggs.
[01:24:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, yall have fun with that. i think we're better off out on this side of the pond.
[01:24:23] <Ethanol-fueled> But I'd love to see the day when ISIS steamrolls Saudi Arabia and are welcomed with open arms by the powerful radical clerics.
[01:24:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, England has already fallin to the Islamic menace BAHAHHAHAHA!
[01:25:17] <SirFinkus> isis needs to do an american idol style reality show
[01:25:28] <SirFinkus> start with 30 hostages
[01:25:36] <SirFinkus> one gets eliminated by vote every week
[01:25:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> buzzard needs to do a cigarette
[01:26:06] <SirFinkus> votes on execution methods too
[01:26:14] <SirFinkus> I call mine the rocket noose
[01:26:29] <Ethanol-fueled> How does that work, finkus?
[01:26:43] <SirFinkus> about how you'd expect
[01:26:49] <juggs> TMB, all well and good - but if Europe is subsumed by such a structure coming from the East, the US is fucked. It's allies would be on the other side of the globe, the $ would no longer be the international currency of last resort, it would collapse - absolute bedlam in the US if they do not dominate in the way they are attempting to do now.
[01:26:54] <SirFinkus> noose around prisoners neck
[01:26:57] <SirFinkus> tied to a rocket
[01:27:01] <SirFinkus> launch the rocket
[01:27:05] <crutchy_> how do you think russia was able to simply march into crimea without the US lifting a finger? a: foreign reserve holdings. even the "sanctions" were probably agreed on by both sides. 'oh yeah we slap some sanctions on rich dudes than can get around them anyway, and US saves some face'
[01:27:08] <SirFinkus> expensive, but spectacular
[01:27:49] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, and Russia was one of the partners in the Iran deal as well.
[01:28:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Russia COULD have sold the S-300 to Iran if it wanted to but held off simply because the US requested it do so, rather than any international law.
[01:28:32] <Ethanol-fueled> ^back in 2009.
[01:28:42] <SirFinkus> I find it hard to have the moral high grounds far as nukes go when we have them too
[01:29:05] <SirFinkus> "but we're the GOOD GUYS" doesn't really fly as an argument for me
[01:31:01] <crutchy_> Ethanol-fueled, they have done that for israel too.
[01:31:24] <crutchy_> but i think iran will eventually get russian missiles (if they haven't already)
[01:31:45] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, I think Putin greenlighted the sale just now, since the deal has been struck.
[01:31:54] <Ethanol-fueled> they might have withheld it as a bargaining chip with Iran.
[01:32:09] <crutchy_> i think to russia (and china) international politics is just business
[01:32:13] <crutchy_> there's no ideology
[01:32:34] <crutchy_> (well, nothing like western ideology anyway)
[01:33:22] <crutchy_> anyway, best be off
[01:33:25] <crutchy_> catch yas later
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[01:35:25] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, UK has not fallen to any menace. We're masters of integration - have to be as an island nation constantly invaded for thousands of years. Sure, there are some pockets of hard line Islamists, as do most countries in western europe, but they're making no real progress. The far more numerous moderates just look at it and see it best not to rock what is a steady ship. Have to bear in mind, the majority of immigrants / refugees from east
[01:35:25] <juggs> ern regions are the minority sects running the hell away from the barbarity to find somewhere to just be left the hell alone and live a peaceful life. I suspect, if the shit hit the fan in the UK, the more numerous moderate muslims would be the in the front line to face down the hard line muslims. There is no love lost there. Don't for one second think that "muslim" is one united entity.
[01:39:33] <Ethanol-fueled> I know that, I just had to take a potshot at your change in demographics.
[01:40:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I believe that European countries should be allowed to refuse and deport non-EU immigrants, though.
[01:40:23] <juggs> Umm.... they can.
[01:40:37] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, then why aren't they?
[01:40:47] <juggs> They are.
[01:41:01] <Ethanol-fueled> I read that they can't due to some EU charter.
[01:41:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Or are they just doing it silently to avoid the PC police shitting themselves?
[01:43:32] <juggs> Sure we have EU rules on accepting refugees subject to persecution at home. Those are the minority types I mentioned. I have no idea where you are getting your information but the overall EU border is not entirely porous. Internally within the EU - sure, we mostly have open borders, so once someone "sneaks in" they are free to move around unchallenged.
[01:45:54] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: How many gerbils does it take to feast on your flesh?
[01:46:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient, as many as I can fit in my rectum.
[01:49:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Allright, I'm off to do more homework and enjoy the reckless hedonism of some ice cream and a bowl of marijuana. Have a good day/night all.
[01:49:46] <juggs> I have concerns about the sheer numbers that seem intent on making their way to the UK - purely from a logistical view - we're a tiny island and kinda crowded already. I'm not particularly worried about the make up of those people wanting in - they are mostly persecuted minority sect refugees looking for a place to live peacefully and be left the fuck alone to just... well... live their lives. They are not a threat in ideology, we have the multicu
[01:49:46] <juggs> lturalism / living side by side and prospering thing down. It's just the numbers that are a problem for us.
[01:50:12] <Ethanol-fueled> that makes sense, juggs. Anyway, I'm off.
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[01:57:12] <juggs> I'm unsure if making sense to EF is a good or bad thing :/
[02:00:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Amiga Turns 30—"Nobody Had Ever Designed a Personal Computer This Way' - http://sylnt.us - down-memory-lane
[02:11:49] <Subsentient> juggs: Honestly, I'm terrified of Islam. I read the Quran. Makes the old testament look like a children's bed time story.
[02:21:51] <juggs> Subsentient, then you are out of context and naive. How many Christians observe the hell and damnation, fire and brimstone to the letter that is the old testament? Pretty much none right? Same goes for Islam - there are minor sects that take it literally and live by that, but many more that view it more philosophically as a document of its time and while they live by its tenets (a good way to live and prosper) the barbaric attention to detail drops
[02:21:51] <juggs> away to nothing. There is wisdom in both Christian and Islam literature, the blood-thirsty bits deserve to be left back in the times they were written. You have to not think of "Islam" as one cohesive force that is somehow going to come and convert you while you sleep or chop off your head or something - that's media hyperbole. For what reason, I do not know. Islam is as diverse as Christian religion. It's not a bogeyman in and of itself.
[02:22:28] <juggs> Wow - I seem to be singing Islam this evening - for the record - I'm not religious.
[02:32:08] <juggs> Subsentient, have you qualified where your "terror" of Islam stems from? That would be a good staring point I suggest.
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[02:38:35] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[02:46:39] <SirFinkus> juggs singing, now that's true terrorism
[02:47:36] <juggs> Hi BCF
[02:47:37] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:48:22] <juggs> SirFinkus, for all you know I have the voice of a siren.....
[02:48:33] <SirFinkus> an air raid siren
[02:48:52] <juggs> Maybe a little lower pitched
[02:51:20] <juggs> I'm guessing BCF has an auto-response set up for "BCF" :D
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[02:54:45] <SirFinkus> so I called my friend, but he changed his number
[02:55:19] <SirFinkus> I opened with "hello honey buns" but it sounded like a big black guy got his old number
[02:55:24] <SirFinkus> it was ackward
[03:00:49] <juggs> What relevance was the skin colour of the new number holder? Would it have been more palatable if it was a big pale skinned guy? Or are you waiting to deliver the surprising punch line?
[03:00:52] <JamesNZ> I'm more interested in why you call your friend "honey buns".
[03:01:45] <BadCoderFinger> There are questions I'd rather not have the answer to.
[03:01:47] <juggs> JamesNZ, we do not discriminate on sexuality hereabouts.
[03:02:42] <JamesNZ> juggs: Wat, wai?
[03:02:56] <JamesNZ> Discriminate on all the things!
[03:03:14] * juggs sighs
[03:04:52] <juggs> Anyways - I'm out, I have dispensed more than enough amateur hour philosophy tonight. Most of it fatally flawed no doubt - but maybe some thought provokers in there for those that can wade through my incessant rambling. Be well. Peace. OUT.
[03:05:08] <BadCoderFinger> Later juggs!
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[03:08:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1526
[03:15:59] <BadCoderFinger> caffeine++
[03:15:59] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 72
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[04:23:16] <crutchy__> coffee++
[04:23:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1527
[04:23:26] <crutchy__> hmm. silly phone :/
[04:32:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nanostructured Glass Can Switch Between Blocking Heat and Blocking Light - http://sylnt.us - as-different-as-hot-and-dark
[05:02:46] <Subsentient> $tell juggs your view on Islam is beautiful, enlightened, and incorrect.
[05:02:46] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[05:13:47] <crutchy__> bugger. i missed it
[05:14:17] <crutchy__> my view of islam is no different to my view of all religions, including science
[05:14:38] <crutchy__> noting that science and the scientific method are different
[05:15:14] <crutchy__> 'science' being some arbitrary god that people use to try to justify whatever bullshit they're spewing
[05:15:38] <crutchy__> people who perform experiments using the scientific method are different
[05:17:17] <crutchy__> if it were a requirement that a scientist be qualified and registered like engineers, doctors, accountants, etc then it might be different, but it seems anyone can claim to be a scientist, which ruins any reputation it may have had in the past
[05:31:06] <arti> i missed the fun too
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[06:14:27] <Landon> crutchy__: heh, who even cares about claiming to be a scientist now
[06:14:32] <Landon> it's all about claiming to love science
[06:14:42] <Landon> .... loving the clickbaity headlines, not the dry journals of course
[06:14:53] <Landon> if it's not on iflscience it's not worth a scientists research!
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[06:34:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Windbot Could Float Through the Clouds of Jupiter - http://sylnt.us
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[08:04:38] <crutchy_> coffee++
[08:04:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1528
[08:13:43] <crutchy_> "Phoenix666, thanks for taking the time to be an editor, but please stop with these comments you are adding to the summaries you post. It is annoying, and worse, it is damaging to the discussion which follows."
[08:15:41] <crutchy_> there wasn't an original submission for the gnu story, but editors also need to ensure they don't ad lib subjective material to a submission
[08:16:28] <crutchy_> since it is attributed to the submitter
[08:16:49] <crutchy_> (has happened in the past)
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[08:35:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kuro5hin is Dying - http://sylnt.us - RIP
[09:36:33] <chromas> SoyCraft Confirms It
[10:37:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MSNBC Cans the Only Cable TV Host Who Extensively Covered TPP - http://sylnt.us - information-desert-that-is-mainstream-media
[10:37:44] <Subsentient> man this new laptop is awesome.
[10:37:56] <Subsentient> I can leave it on the bed for an hour running and it stays cool
[10:38:16] <Subsentient> I guess that's the AMD APU
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[15:24:02] <cmn32480> coffee++
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[19:01:38] <cmn32480> hummus++
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[19:33:02] <cmn32480> ~weather Bel Air, MD
[19:33:04] <exec> 03Bel Air, MD, USA - currently 88°F / 31°C, partly cloudy, wind SE at 13 mph, humidity 56% - Sunday partly cloudy (69°F-85°F / 21°C-29°C), Monday scattered thunderstorms (68°F-84°F / 20°C-29°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (69°F-89°F / 21°C-32°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (72°F-92°F / 22°C-33°C)
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[20:44:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Something Different - Space Photos of the Week from Wired - http://sylnt.us - star-gazing
[21:15:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Low Cost Weather Satellite Image Receiver - http://sylnt.us - it's-going-to-rain-or-go-dark-before-tomorrow
[21:26:08] <arti> hummus++
[21:26:08] <Bender> karma - hummus: 2
[21:30:06] <chromas> hummers++
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[21:30:17] <chromas> hummers++ # The good kind; not the douche kind
[21:30:17] <Bender> karma - hummers: 2
[21:30:22] <arti> what up man!
[21:30:34] <arti> epic time suck yesterday
[21:42:17] <chromas> yeah
[21:42:29] <chromas> Trying to install the proprietary amd driver now; it's being a butt
[21:42:35] <chromas> also making brownies
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[21:55:03] <arti> greetings finkus
[22:04:02] <SirFinkus> lo
[22:06:54] <Leebert> I recall that there was at least one train nerd in this channel... If I recall correctly, I thought said train nerd might find it interesting that I'm about 15 minutes away from going through Horseshoe Curve in Altoona, PA.
[22:09:40] <arti> http://s-ak.buzzfed.com <- this kind of train nerd?
[22:12:21] <Leebert> Oh, you found my ad?
[22:12:34] <arti> mmm crabmeat
[22:13:45] <Leebert> note to self: if anyone asks me anythough about "jo on rails", remember that it's not a newfangled programming language
[22:14:05] <Leebert> anything. Stupid latency
[22:14:54] <arti> rofl
[22:16:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Robotics and the Law: When Software Can Harm You - http://sylnt.us - me-and-my-mechanical-buddy
[22:35:11] <arti> Låtefossen Waterfall is a pretty place
[22:35:33] <arti> skyrim++
[22:35:33] <Bender> karma - skyrim: 1