#Soylent | Logs for 2015-07-21

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[00:06:51] <takyon> it's new
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[00:24:34] * SpallsHurgenson shouts to the heavens above, "Olives DO NOT belong on pizzas!!!!"
[00:28:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Der Spiegel Interviews Assange - http://sylnt.us - Fourth-Estate
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[00:36:12] <SpallsHurgenson> looks like he lost two fingers
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[00:41:29] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, prosthetics
[00:41:47] <Gravis> hmm... it seems that SN has quite a few climate change deniers.
[00:42:09] <SpallsHurgenson> so you say, but they deny it
[00:42:16] <Gravis> ;)
[00:43:15] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, we ALWAYS have had 90 degree temperatures in January
[00:44:12] <Gravis> just look at the obscene moderation going on here: https://soylentnews.org
[00:44:17] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Global Warming Has Shifted Earth's Axis
[00:44:46] * SpallsHurgenson denies any moderation
[00:44:58] <paulej72> ~weather
[00:45:01] <exec> 03Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 87°F / 31°C, mostly sunny, wind W at 5 mph, humidity 58% - Monday partly cloudy (72°F-92°F / 22°C-33°C), Tuesday cloudy (63°F-93°F / 17°C-34°C), Wednesday sunny (61°F-86°F / 16°C-30°C), Thursday sunny (62°F-86°F / 17°C-30°C)
[00:45:08] <paulej72> ~weather armpit
[00:45:10] <exec> 03Camden, NJ, USA - currently 88°F / 31°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 55% - Monday partly cloudy (75°F-93°F / 24°C-34°C), Tuesday cloudy (67°F-94°F / 19°C-34°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (65°F-87°F / 18°C-31°C), Thursday sunny (65°F-87°F / 18°C-31°C)
[00:45:17] <SpallsHurgenson> lol
[00:45:33] <SpallsHurgenson> that's sort of insulting to armpits
[00:45:39] <Gravis> ~weather clowntown
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[00:45:41] <exec> 03ClownTown, Unit 3, The Coppetts Centre, London, United Kingdom - currently 61°F / 16°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 17 mph, humidity 66% - Monday clear (55°F-72°F / 13°C-22°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (55°F-77°F / 13°C-25°C), Wednesday showers (51°F-73°F / 11°C-23°C), Thursday partly cloudy (52°F-72°F / 11°C-22°C)
[00:45:52] <Gravis> LOL
[00:45:56] <paulej72> well some armpits, Have you seen French women
[00:46:26] <SpallsHurgenson> French nothing! I've seen AMERICAN women
[00:46:50] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.peopleofwalmart.com
[00:46:53] <exec> └─ 13People Of Walmart - Funny Pictures of People Shopping at Walmart : People Of Walmart
[00:47:05] <paulej72> no no no no no no not again
[00:47:26] <paulej72> my eyes needed bleach
[00:49:42] <SpallsHurgenson> almost makes you appreciate goatse.cx in comparison, eh?
[00:49:46] <SpallsHurgenson> (almost)
[00:50:34] <paulej72> goatse.cx is tame. tub girl and two girls one cup is another thing
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[01:22:41] <prospectacle> afternoon
[01:23:21] <prospectacle> What's the swag item that has the highest proportion of store-to-soylent income. IOW how do I buy swag so you guys get most of the money and not zazzle?
[01:24:04] <prospectacle> As a follow up question. Where do I see when my subscription expires?
[01:24:26] <prospectacle> wait never mind, found the answer to the second one.
[01:25:08] <Gravis> paulej72: here's bleach for your eyes: http://eyebleach.com
[01:25:11] <exec> └─ 13Eye Bleach
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[01:59:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Platinum Asteroid Worth Trillions Of Dollars Flies Past Earth - http://sylnt.us - waving-money-goodbye
[02:03:53] <Gravis> Subsentient: oh rainbooows. for some reason i was thinking the interface was for generic process management. >_<#
[02:05:02] <Subsentient> Gravis: Define process management. MemBus is used by the 'epoch start/stop' etc commands for managing services, and power control.
[02:05:17] <Gravis> Subsentient: processes, not services
[02:05:22] <Subsentient> kk
[02:05:37] <Subsentient> yeh Epoch scans /proc for that
[02:11:35] <cmn32480> ~weater baltimore
[02:11:40] <cmn32480> ~weather baltimore
[02:11:42] <exec> 03Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 83°F / 28°C, partly cloudy, wind NW at 1 mph, humidity 68% - Monday isolated thunderstorms (78°F-94°F / 26°C-34°C), Tuesday scattered thunderstorms (70°F-91°F / 21°C-33°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (68°F-87°F / 20°C-31°C), Thursday mostly sunny (68°F-86°F / 20°C-30°C)
[02:12:08] <cmn32480> f**king miserable... got it.
[02:14:48] <Gravis> Subsentient: i'm not seeing where you specify the permission for the shared memory.
[02:14:58] <Subsentient> Gravis: One moment
[02:15:25] <Subsentient> Gravis: membus.c line 41
[02:15:38] <Subsentient> if ((MemDescriptor = shmget((key_t)MemBusKey, MEMBUS_SIZE + sizeof(long) * 2, (ServerSide ? (IPC_CREAT | 0660) : 0660))) < 0)
[02:17:46] <Gravis> Subsentient: are you _sure_ 0660 is interpretted as octal?
[02:17:54] <Subsentient> Gravis: yes.
[02:18:07] <Gravis> ok... because that part just seemed really sketchy to me
[02:18:14] <Subsentient> Gravis: In C, anything preceded by a zero is interpreted by octal
[02:18:22] <Subsentient> s/by/as
[02:18:22] * sedctl tosses a / to Sibsuntynt
[02:18:26] <Subsentient> s/by/as/
[02:18:26] <sedctl> <Subsintent> Gravis: In C, anything preceded as a zero is interpreted by octal
[02:18:38] <Subsentient> nrrr
[02:18:45] <Subsentient> s/by octal/as octal/
[02:18:45] <Gravis> ;)
[02:19:03] <Subsentient> Gravis: What languages you work in?
[02:19:17] <Gravis> Subsentient: C++ mostly
[02:19:33] <Gravis> Subsentient: i just dont deal with octal like... ever
[02:19:50] <Gravis> at least in my code
[02:19:56] <Subsentient> Gravis: I know some C++, but most of my work is in C. I prefer the smallness of the language.
[02:20:08] <Subsentient> C is a very easy language to remember all of.
[02:20:14] <Subsentient> the standard library however...
[02:21:08] <Gravis> glibc seems to implement the standard c++ lib but in c.
[02:21:24] <Subsentient> yup
[02:21:59] <Gravis> it's nonsense really. if you want c++ features, use c++!
[02:22:11] <Subsentient> Yeah, that's a bit deranged.
[02:25:23] <Subsentient> Gravis: ooh, I got something you might find interesting, something I wrote: http://universe2.us
[02:25:26] <exec> └─ 13SubStrings, a better way to deal with C strings
[02:25:31] <Subsentient> I use it extensively in my own projects.
[02:26:12] <Gravis> Subsentient: i just use stdlib or qt for string stuff
[02:26:31] <Subsentient> Gravis: In C, we don't have QT's string stuff.
[02:26:52] <Gravis> Subsentient: that sounds like a personal problem. :P
[02:26:55] <Subsentient> the string.h header's facilities are abysmal
[02:27:48] <Gravis> Subsentient: they aren't bad, they just aren't extensive
[02:28:06] <Gravis> -extensive+comprehensive
[02:29:10] <Subsentient> Gravis: No, really. the only safe copy functions require extra work to MAKE their calls safe.
[02:29:29] <Subsentient> strcpy() is extremely unsafe, and strncpy() has a gotcha that can result in a non-null-terminated string.
[02:30:30] <Subsentient> SubStrings only deals with null terminated strings.
[02:31:30] <Subsentient> afk
[02:31:37] <Gravis> later
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[04:06:06] <SpallsHurgenson> wha' hoppen?
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[04:06:31] <juggs> ~shrug~
[04:06:58] <SpallsHurgenson> I bet it was North Korea!
[04:09:53] <SpallsHurgenson> we're still allowed to demonize North Korea, right?
[04:11:00] <juggs> Yep - if in doubt blame Kim or Vladimir. Don't forget to check under your bed for communists before you sleep - those bastards are everywhere! I'm losing track - are we at war with the sand dwellers or the commies? Am I in a 1950s timewarp...?
[04:12:53] <SpallsHurgenson> oh no! you can't refer to people from the Middle East as "sand dwellers" anymore
[04:13:12] <SpallsHurgenson> and the Russians are a noble People under the dominion of a few bad apples!
[04:14:29] <juggs> <SpallsHurgenson> and the Northern Americans are a noble People under the dominion of a few bad apples!
[04:14:41] <SpallsHurgenson> but as far as I am aware, official policy is that the North Koreans are still evil incarnate subhumans
[04:15:08] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, leave Canada out of this!
[04:15:51] <juggs> Careful - we don't want the French involved - it's mesy enough as it is
[04:17:59] * juggs heads to bed - all this generalisation has me worn out.
[04:18:09] <SpallsHurgenson> the French want nothing to do with Quebec either
[04:21:46] <SpallsHurgenson> but generalizations are what have made Humanity achieve so many ... well, let's call them achievements. Sad, disturbing, awful achievements.
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[05:02:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tiny Ocean Microbes are Brightening Up the Sky - http://sylnt.us - I-see-what-they-did-there
[05:27:03] <SirFinkus> I helped my grandma move, she's almost exactly like this, but more aggressive https://www.youtube.com
[05:27:07] <exec> └─ 13Best of Lucille Bluth - YouTube
[05:27:37] <SirFinkus> it was a nightmare
[05:39:01] <chromas> everyone is cornholing
[05:55:30] <arti> ciri says yes
[07:24:19] <crutchy> i'm a climate change denier denier
[07:27:51] <crutchy> i don't have a problem acknowledging that there is climate change (i like the idea of emissions trading schemes that might have some hope of putting environmental impact on corporate balance sheets) but i don't buy into the religious dogma that surrounds the climate debate. to me accusing someone of being a 'climate change denier' is as bad as calling someone a 'god denier'
[07:28:15] <crutchy> its not about climate at all, its about whether you agree with their solutions
[07:28:36] <crutchy> (about how the climate lobby wants to spend taxpayer money)
[07:30:34] <crutchy> damn. didn't get any bites yet :p
[07:32:00] <crutchy> ;socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[07:32:00] <MrPlow> TheMightyBuzzard, you're a socialist!
[07:33:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vandals Keep Snipping Fiber Optic Cables in California With Impunity - http://sylnt.us - where'd-I-put-my-sidecutters
[07:39:47] <chromas> there is no debate
[07:39:56] <chromas> :D
[07:41:09] <crutchy> anyone who wants to debate climate policy is a turrist
[07:41:29] <crutchy> we need moar solyndras!
[07:45:06] <chromas> The earth's not getting warmer. We just feel warmer because Obama's using HARP to spread sodium fluoride in the chemtrails and it's giving us cancer so Big Pharma can turn a profit off us for life
[07:46:17] <chromas> Also, the earth is a 6,000-year-old disc plus
[07:46:24] <chromas> Timecube
[07:47:06] <SirFinkus> as terrible as it sounds, I don't care about that particular debate
[07:47:22] <SirFinkus> I only have enough energy for a few of those kinds of things
[07:47:29] <SirFinkus> I haven't looked into it
[07:48:11] <SirFinkus> I suspect it's a thing that's happening just based on the people who deny it is vs the people who believe in it
[07:48:57] <SirFinkus> it's a lazy opinion, but I don't argue it
[07:57:34] <crutchy> i just argue about it cos i like arguing about stuff like that. it's fun getting people's backs up :D
[07:57:45] <crutchy> trollololol++
[07:57:45] <Bender> karma - trollololol: 1
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[08:51:07] <Subsentient> One of my favorite Cyanide and Happiness. http://explosm.net
[08:51:10] <exec> └─ 13Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)
[09:06:35] <K_benzoate1> I'm trying to figure out of it's worth buying a pfSense device for $300.
[09:06:58] <K_benzoate1> and purchasing my own modem.
[09:07:38] <K_benzoate1> Logically it seems like it would be, but mathematically returns don't seem to start happening until 6-7 years later.
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[11:06:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Grooveshark Cofounder Josh Greenberg Found Dead - http://sylnt.us - no-second-acts
[11:14:17] <chromas> mafiaa
[11:23:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> chromas: see my comment on the story.
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[12:07:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jide Tech's Remix Mini: $30-40 PC Runs Android "Respin" - http://sylnt.us - starter-pc-soyvertisement
[12:15:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> takyon: you should edit that story to say "Some Kickstarter backers have had a little trouble with Kickstarter allow more pledges than intended" to make it clear that it's NOT a technical problem with the device.
[12:17:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> Also, the AC has a good point about this being an open Kickstarter, which although I like the *idea* behind the device, I'm not sure I want to get into...
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[13:07:16] <crutchy_> https://www.youtube.com
[13:07:19] <exec> └─ 13Tut Tut Child - Dragon Pirates (Guitar Cover) - YouTube
[13:07:48] <crutchy_> top comment fits perfectly: "His hand looks like a spider on drugs"
[13:08:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Wins Its First International Mathematical Olympiad in 21 Years - http://sylnt.us - we're-number-one
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[14:39:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Drones Hamper Firefighting Efforts - http://sylnt.us - if-you-fly,-we-can't
[16:10:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Repeated Drying Cycles Can Form Protein-like Polymers - http://sylnt.us - I-thought-the-answer-was-42
[16:56:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> NCommander: Can we update the "Site News" slashbox to show when the current funding cycle starts and ends? Possibly with a "x% of money collected over y% of funding cycle" message so that people know how close to goal we're coming?
[17:11:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Islamic State Is Restricting Internet Access in Its Capital City - http://sylnt.us - someone-stomp-these-guys-already
[17:11:33] <everdred> coffee++
[17:11:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1522
[17:52:10] <arti> https://en.wikipedia.org
[17:52:15] <exec> └─ 13Lion-Eating Poet in the Stone Den - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[18:07:34] <NCommander> AndyTheAbsurd, thats a decent idea
[18:17:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> It will probably lower sales/donations in the beginning but hopefully it will induce a sense of urgency if they get significantly out of synch in a way that shows the site isn't being self-sustaining.
[18:19:03] <arti> maybe the peeps donating can have a gold star by their name (nothing sewn on, or tattooed)
[18:19:55] <arti> what'll make it urgent is when it's blinking
[18:21:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> blinking is a good idea...if you want me to come to your house and gouge your eyes with a fork.
[18:21:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> (also, subscribers already get a gold star, and get to bypass the submit rate limit)
[18:21:49] <arti> eyes with a fork, submit ... omg are you becoming ISIS
[18:22:24] <arti> well just use a trick, when you do the graph, zoom way in
[18:22:43] <arti> sorta like how they show murder rates going up when firearms are banned
[18:23:10] <arti> are you all excited for perl 6?
[18:23:18] <arti> looks like it runs on jvm :|
[18:23:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> no, I don't want you to submit, I want you to bypass submission. By giving money to SoylentNews.
[18:23:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> ISIS totally wants you to submit.
[18:24:18] <arti> daesh_recruit_music.ogg have that play when submitting
[18:24:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> Is Perl6 actually coming out of beta? After how many decades in development?
[18:24:31] * AndyTheAbsurd ducks
[18:24:36] <arti> this december
[18:24:55] <arti> i was looking here http://learnxinyminutes.com
[18:24:59] <exec> └─ 13Learn perl6 in Y Minutes
[18:25:19] <arti> http://perl6.org
[18:25:22] <exec> └─ 13Perl 6 Compilers
[18:26:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> huh
[18:26:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, I guess a few months after that, I'll finally buy a new copy of the camel book
[18:26:32] <arti> and why the compilers? http://perlgeek.de
[18:26:36] <exec> └─ 13blog | Perlgeek.de :: Why is it hard to write a compiler for Perl 6?
[18:26:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> for the few and far between times that I have to deal with Perl...
[18:26:47] <arti> hahaha
[18:27:16] <arti> anyway, seems pretty neat "torture the implementor on behalf of the user"
[18:28:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> sounds good to me...most of humanity spends a lot more time using programs than implementing them.
[18:42:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Audi Comes With Laser Headlights - http://sylnt.us - one-more-step-to-sharks-with-lasers
[18:43:23] <arti> that'll teach oncoming traffic
[18:49:01] <Bytram|afk> !uid
[18:49:02] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5697, owned by zzarko
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[18:49:29] <arti> does your client auto return from away when typing?
[18:50:36] <Bytram> nopers, I gots to type it meself
[18:51:47] <arti> fancy!
[18:52:57] <Bytram> good things all my fingers are still attached to my wrists!
[18:53:06] <arti> ...for now
[18:53:19] <arti> dr nick strikes again
[18:55:05] <Bytram> you may laugh, but at one time or another, every single finger and thumb has been visited by a sharp object at some time in my life... good thing I learned to carry band-aids!
[18:55:33] <arti> i see you had a cat
[18:56:27] <Bytram> that too, those were additional afflictions [inflictions?}
[18:56:39] <Bytram> thanksfully no cat-scratch fever [that I recall]
[19:01:23] <arti> indeed, one thing i like about where I'm at now is the lack of "sticker bushes" black berries and what not
[19:05:03] <Bytram> ouchie!
[19:05:15] <arti> nettles--
[19:05:15] <Bender> karma - nettles: -1
[19:05:46] <Bytram> we had a huge batch of blackberries growing in a field behind our house when I was a kid, and a number of other large assemblages of raspberries, too
[19:06:05] <arti> the fruit isn't bad, it's the rest of it
[19:07:56] <Bytram> sadly, I never much cared for either of those, so I got both the pricking and the sicking
[19:08:33] <arti> berry_picker++
[19:08:34] <Bender> karma - berry_picker: 1
[19:13:46] <Bytram> lol
[19:13:56] <Bytram> had some bluebery shrubs around, too
[19:14:07] <Bytram> I like those better, esp in a pie or muffins!
[19:14:14] <arti> oh yes, those are awesome
[19:14:36] <arti> do your plants produce large berries?
[19:18:38] <Bytram> not mine, now -- was talking about my childhood.
[19:18:48] <Bytram> I now live in a studio apt -- no berries hre
[19:18:53] <Bytram> s/hre/here/
[19:18:53] <sedctl> <Bytram> I now live in a studio apt -- no berries here
[19:19:16] <arti> oh, berry sad :(
[19:19:30] <arti> i, too, apartment
[19:24:12] <Bytram> nod nod
[19:24:37] <Bytram> thankfully, it's not a large city -- plenty of suburb and rural areas within a short drive away.
[19:24:44] <Bytram> some pick-your-own places around, too.
[19:29:20] <CoolHand> Bytram: u aren't around Michiana r u? Lots of blueberry pick places up there..
[19:36:31] <Bytram> northeast
[19:42:03] <Bytram> break time; afk for a bit
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[20:11:07] <arti> https://vimeo.com
[20:11:11] <exec> └─ 13Fly Plane on Vimeo
[20:13:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australia to Run First Robo-Car Trials in Sleepy Adelaide - http://sylnt.us - followed-by-a-BBQ-and-stubbies
[21:28:00] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[21:28:03] <exec> └─ 13Donald Trump just told everyone Lindsey Graham’s cellphone number - MarketWatch
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[21:41:35] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[21:41:38] <exec> └─ 13Microsoft Releases Emergency Patch For Font Driver Vulnerability
[21:41:51] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[21:41:55] <exec> └─ 13Google dumps ISP email support. Virgin Media takes ball, stomps home • The Register
[21:44:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - America's Tweaks to Weapons Trade Pact 'Will Make Web Less Secure' - http://sylnt.us - what-are-they-up-to-now
[22:45:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Your Body, the Battery: Powering Gadgets from Human "Biofuel" - http://sylnt.us - i-could-power-a-spacestation
[23:40:25] <takyon> http://www.anandtech.com
[23:40:28] <exec> └─ 13Microsoft Reports FY 2015 And Q4 Results: Nokia Write Down Results In $3.2B Loss For Q4
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