#Soylent | Logs for 2015-07-01
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[01:02:47] <SpallsHurgenson> argh! the silence is driving me mad, mad, MAD I tell you!
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[01:46:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I must be tired; I just spent 5 minutes trying to remove a spot from an image before I realized it was dirt on the monitor...
[01:56:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - E.U. to End Cellphone Roaming Charges in 2017 - http://sylnt.us - progress
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[02:11:08] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5620, owned by Pezdispenser
[02:15:58] <SpallsHurgenson> I always wanted to be a Pez dispenser when I grew up, but my guidance counselor said I needed to have more realistic goals...
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[02:31:31] <SirFinkus> they ruined oatis
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[03:00:24] <SpallsHurgenson> oatis?
[03:02:53] <SirFinkus> my beer of choice
[03:03:09] <SirFinkus> it used to taste like dark chocolate, now it tastes like nesquick
[03:06:16] <Gravis> SirFinkus: it's poison, so why do you care?
[03:06:35] * SirFinkus likes drinking poison from time to time
[03:06:47] <Gravis> SirFinkus: will you be complaining about the taste of arsenic too?
[03:07:02] <SirFinkus> I prefer cyanide
[03:07:06] <SirFinkus> mmm, bitter almonds
[03:07:37] <Gravis> fucking almonds are draining the US southwest
[03:08:53] <Gravis> though the US southwest has it coming. they have worked really hard to fuck things up this badly.
[03:08:58] * SirFinkus is listening to Budgie — Breadfan, from the album Never Turn Your Back On A Friend
[03:09:02] <SirFinkus> this song is still awesome
[03:09:35] <Gravis> SirFinkus: every song is awesome and every song is the worst
[03:09:52] <Gravis> SirFinkus: welcome to opinions.
[03:09:55] <SirFinkus> some songs are just mediocre, which is one of the worst things a song can be
[03:10:24] <Gravis> SirFinkus: clearly you haven't heard of country rap
[03:11:23] <SirFinkus> sounds like it takes risks, which is admirable
[03:13:32] <Gravis> SirFinkus: no, it's just crap
[03:13:57] <Gravis> country is bad and rap is bad. so yeah, crap is really bad.
[03:17:51] <Gravis> SirFinkus: so are you a lurker or one of the fools that posts as anon?
[03:19:04] <SirFinkus> I'm a lurker, I post sometimes though
[03:19:22] <SirFinkus> not very often
[03:20:16] <Gravis> SirFinkus: what is the alias you post as?
[03:20:23] <SirFinkus> Sir Finkus
[03:20:46] <SirFinkus> https://soylentnews.org
[03:20:51] <exec> └─ 13Journal of Sir Finkus (192)
[03:20:59] <Gravis> oic
[03:22:24] <Gravis> SirFinkus: well... it's certainly better than the anon posters. they bother me.
[03:23:09] <Gravis> responding to anything they say is a moot point as they will never read it
[03:24:01] <SirFinkus> I only do that very rarely, like when I express opinions I'd rather employers not be able to google and stuff
[03:25:13] <Gravis> SirFinkus: unless you are a knighted Mr Finkus, you dont need to worry about that
[03:25:28] <SirFinkus> heh, paranoid all the same
[03:25:44] <Gravis> unless you work for clandestine organizations in which case you have bigger issues.
[03:25:49] <SirFinkus> I'm one of those crazy guys who doesn't have a facebook or twitter or anything
[03:26:14] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i'm one of those crazy guys too!
[03:26:18] <Gravis> yay!
[03:27:19] <Gravis> frankly i just dont think it's useful
[03:27:41] <Gravis> and it's rather narcissistic
[03:27:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lawsuit Filed Over Domain Name Registered 16 Years Before Plaintiff’s Use - http://sylnt.us - lawsuit-that-should-'workbetter'
[03:28:08] <SirFinkus> well, I'm pretty sure I lost a date on Friday due to it
[03:28:18] <SirFinkus> they'll see our way soon enough though
[03:28:48] <Gravis> SirFinkus: oh... are you going to stalk and murder the date you lost?
[03:29:09] <SirFinkus> nope
[03:29:13] <Gravis> lame
[03:29:24] <SirFinkus> no big deal, but annoying
[03:29:25] <Gravis> human is the ultimate game
[03:30:49] <Gravis> SirFinkus: btw... why would you lose a date for not having a facetwit page?
[03:31:46] <Gravis> i wouldn't want to be with someone who thought it was so vital anyway.
[03:31:57] <SirFinkus> no logical reason, that was just the only contact shit she was comfortable giving me, there was a noticeable dropoff in interest after I mentioned I didn't have one
[03:32:26] <Gravis> weird
[03:32:43] <SirFinkus> I think it's easier for people because it's less personal than texting or calling or whatever
[03:32:58] <SirFinkus> and it's a way of "cheating"
[03:33:13] <SirFinkus> knowing someone's interests and all that without needing to invest the time in talking with them
[03:33:39] <Gravis> oic
[03:33:51] <Gravis> well where's the fun in that?
[03:33:59] <SirFinkus> just speculation, I might see her again sometime
[03:36:17] <Gravis> i mean, it might be the second date before you find out someone is a huge biggot but if you go to their facebook page and all they have is nazi propaganda, that just gives away the surprise
[03:37:53] <SirFinkus> it certainly makes things more intertesting
[03:37:57] <Gravis> it also excuses them from getting in-person negative feedback that they cant ignore.
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[03:38:37] <SirFinkus> well, it's funny because phone numbers are 100% less intimate that facebook
[03:39:19] <SirFinkus> if I had her facebook account, I'd probably know where she was at all times, where she goes to school, what her favorite stuff is, who here family and friends are
[03:40:10] <Gravis> sure... but you still wouldn't know why she named her cat "Mister Rupert"
[03:41:07] <SirFinkus> but I would know which cat to kidnap, decapitate, and leave on her doorstep in a box if she crossed me
[03:41:57] <Gravis> SirFinkus: now now. it's not polite to toy with your prey.
[03:43:04] <SirFinkus> all hypothetical of course
[03:44:15] <Gravis> SirFinkus: of course. we all know it's more enjoyable to tape up the cat and leave it behind the wheel of her car so that she's the one who kills it
[03:44:32] <SirFinkus> I like the cut of your jib Gravis
[03:45:02] <SirFinkus> although if you could incorporate her eating it into the whole thing, that would be great
[03:45:06] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i learned it all from youtube comments!
[03:45:28] <Gravis> ron paul 2012!
[03:47:48] <Gravis> SirFinkus: it's a fun persona but it's not really me
[03:48:43] <SirFinkus> see, if you had a facebook I'd know you don't tape dogs to car tires
[03:48:52] <SirFinkus> and you'd know that I do
[03:49:45] <Gravis> SirFinkus: that actually would be funny (at low speeds) if they were taped to spinners
[03:52:42] <Gravis> well... not taped... like a sidecar for them
[03:54:25] <Gravis> SirFinkus: i've heard one congress critter straps his dog to the top of his car. :P
[03:54:43] <SirFinkus> and that's the most moral thing he does each day
[03:55:37] <Gravis> *sigh* sadly
[03:56:43] <Gravis> i've considered the matter and i think the system is too entrenched in corruption to be fixed.
[03:58:06] <Gravis> well... be fixed by non-violent means
[03:58:42] <Gravis> and i think too little of the general populous to be violent on their behalf
[03:59:06] <SirFinkus> idk how to fix it
[03:59:45] <Gravis> SirFinkus: it's not hard. you just have to kill a select group of people
[04:00:00] <SirFinkus> works for a generation or two
[04:00:43] <Gravis> i'm not talking about a coup
[04:01:01] <SirFinkus> and requires a person with the stomach to assassinate people, and generally people that are willing to do that aren't great leaders in peacetime
[04:01:42] <SirFinkus> when it comes to things like civil liberties and human rights and all that
[04:01:42] <Gravis> again, not talking about a coup
[04:02:15] <Gravis> the system in place is capable of repairing itself, just not with certain bad elements in the game
[04:03:00] <Gravis> SirFinkus: yes, there are honest politicians!
[04:03:22] <SirFinkus> sounds an awful lot like a coup to me
[04:04:44] <Gravis> i'm not talking about taking power away from the government, i'm talking about taking about preventing some people from being part of the governmental process
[04:05:00] <Gravis> not all of them politicians either
[04:05:57] <SirFinkus> bbiab, sister just came over
[04:13:58] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "Sisters?"
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[04:49:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Linux Mint sucks.
[04:49:57] <Ethanol-fueled> It's really a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face as a protest migration.
[04:51:28] <Ethanol-fueled> First hard-lockup I've had with Linux in years.
[05:01:16] <Gravis> Ethanol-fueled: what migration?
[05:01:45] <Gravis> Ethanol-fueled: and did you get a kernel panic?
[05:03:10] <Gravis> Ethanol-fueled: are they protesting the 4.x kernel or something?
[05:06:46] <Gravis> Ethanol-fueled: also note that unless you are using the same hardware as last time, you can't blame them for driver issues.
[05:09:12] <Gravis> Ethanol-fueled: wake up, fool
[05:27:07] <Ethanol-fueled> here.
[05:27:19] <Ethanol-fueled> took a jog, being a creature of the night now.
[05:27:32] <Ethanol-fueled> I think the issue was that I installed it after I installed Win7.
[05:27:54] <Ethanol-fueled> the GRUB got borked and wasted hours and hours of effort.
[05:28:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh yeah, plus that unexplained lockup. Installed the cinnamon version.
[05:29:54] <Ethanol-fueled> I tried every goddamn thing all over the internet to make bootable that Win7 partition and nothing worked.
[05:30:32] <Ethanol-fueled> If the win7 recovery tools dont work I'm just gonna nuke the drive and start all over again.
[05:31:14] <Ethanol-fueled> ONly reason why I give a damn is because I spend all afternoon getting that win7 set up with all that awesome software with no equivalent on linux, tweaked just the way I need it.
[05:31:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Phooey.
[05:32:31] <Ethanol-fueled> no doubt a testament to my shit IT skills.
[05:34:18] * Ethanol-fueled checks news
[05:34:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Welp, the world's burning. Hold on to your asses!
[05:56:59] * chromas grabs ass
[05:59:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - When Image Recognition Goes Horribly Wrong - http://sylnt.us - did-you-really-just-call-her-that?
[05:59:55] <Ethanol-fueled> sup chromas.
[06:00:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, i was going to submit that story, but I thought somebody else should.
[06:00:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Pattern recognition's problems with certain humans aren't new, HP had a fiasco years ago with their facial detection, which wouldn't work at all.
[06:01:00] <Ethanol-fueled> At least, one some people...if you know what I mean.
[06:01:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Beryllium's sumbission is better than my draft anwyay.
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[06:09:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Takin' off. Later!
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[06:17:02] <FatPhil> mornings--
[06:17:02] <Bender> karma - mornings: -3
[06:19:33] <Gravis> <Ethanol-fueled> I think the issue was that I installed it after I installed Win7. <-- installing windows voids the linux warranty
[06:20:08] <Gravis> what an idiot
[06:36:35] <FatPhil> what linux warranty?
[06:37:47] <FatPhil> most people I know prefer VMs to multiboot nowadays. HOwever, on laptops, I found VMs to be a nasty drain.
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[07:27:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Testing (installed hexchat)
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[07:28:07] <crutchy> FatPhil, if you sell linux to someone for a profit, technically there is a warranty (at least in australia)
[07:28:21] <crutchy> depends how you get it
[07:29:43] <crutchy> you can't disclaim yourself of your obligations under australian consumer law. even if you sign a contract that explicitly voids your rights, statute law trumps contracts
[07:34:26] <crutchy> so if someone bought a machine with linux preinstalled, and it was bricked on arrival, the law would allow them a refund or replacement. but if they tinkered and installed windows or whatever, that might make their case more difficult
[07:34:59] <crutchy> i dunno if that's what e-f meant, but i just thought i'd throw it out there :p
[07:48:56] <chromas> From the woosh dept
[07:50:38] <takyon> yo soy soylentil
[08:01:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Apple Should Kill Off the Mac - http://sylnt.us - have-you-tried-programming-on-a-tablet?
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[12:47:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> bad day moved on from me to you looks like
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[13:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> afternoon, janrinok
[13:21:27] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: afternoon to you too - no fishing yet?
[13:21:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> not for a week or two now. it's screwing up my internal harmony.
[13:22:31] <janrinok> absolutely - get yourself out there, even if they don't bite it's better than staying indoors all the time.
[13:22:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> would but we got thunderstorms ALL WEEK
[13:24:58] <janrinok> that's not good - although we had a very short thunderstorm yesterday evening. It cleared the air and helped the garden.
[13:27:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wouldn't care but it means no fishing
[13:28:41] <janrinok> can't you go and just watch them for a bit of 'you' time?
[13:39:23] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: what are you working on today?
[13:40:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> fresh start on the vm so i don't have lots of cruft left over from the mysql-cluster insanity.
[13:40:24] <janrinok> is it going OK?
[13:44:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> so far. i expect it'll go fine since i don't have to worry about the bloody db server being idiotic
[13:44:51] <Gravis> TheMightyBuzzard: the proper term is "'tarded"
[13:45:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Gravis, i think mysql-cluster's behavior warrants fucktarded
[13:45:40] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: have we dropped mysql-cluster now, or are you simply removing the cruft that built up while getting it to work?
[13:46:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> dropping it from the vm. it would have required quadrupling the amount of ram the vm uses anyway, which means less of a chance bytram will be joining us in coding any time soon.
[13:47:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me
[13:48:42] <janrinok> ah, k
[14:05:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) Leak Users' Details - http://sylnt.us - oops-didn't-think-about-that-one || Windows 10 to Share WiFi Key With Contacts - http://sylnt.us - we-are-really-security-conscious || OpenDNS Snapped Up by Cisco - http://sylnt.us - there-goes-the-neighborhood || Finnish Pioneer of Texting Tech Dies - - 1 more
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[15:36:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NOAA Study on 4th of July Fireworks and Spikes in Air Pollution - http://sylnt.us - light-up-the-sky
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[16:37:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MIT’s Bitcoin-Inspired ‘Enigma’ lets Computers Mine Encrypted Data - http://sylnt.us - hi-ho,-hi-ho
[18:08:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Holland to Open Roads to (some) Experimental Self Driving Robots - http://sylnt.us - watch-out-for-bicycles
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[20:26:21] <Ethanol-fueled> ;weather san diego
[20:26:21] <MrPlow> Syntax: ;weather City, ST or ;weather zip code
[20:26:30] <Ethanol-fueled> ;weather San Diego, ca
[20:26:31] <MrPlow> Today: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. High 77F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Tomorrow: Morning clouds will give way to sunshine for the afternoon. High 77F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph.
[20:26:40] <Ethanol-fueled> ;weather el centro, ca
[20:26:40] <MrPlow> Today: Partly cloudy with a slight chance of thunderstorms. High 102F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%. Tomorrow: Mostly sunny. High 107F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph.
[20:26:47] <Ethanol-fueled> 102F? FUUUUUUU
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[21:11:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cuba Cuts Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions to 2% - http://sylnt.us - they-are-thinking-of-the-children!
[22:31:39] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:31:39] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:31:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1474
[22:42:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook's Zuckerberg Wants to Figure Out Social Equation - http://sylnt.us - its-psychohistory-time-folks
[22:52:55] <swiss> coffee--
[22:52:55] <Bender> karma - tea: 483
[22:52:58] <swiss> :(
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