#Soylent | Logs for 2015-06-30
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[00:07:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SCOTUS Declines to Hear Arguments in Google Vs. Oracle - http://sylnt.us - grab-some-popcorn
[00:12:22] <nick> paulej72, you never know, that might be the end game
[00:12:52] <nick> but im sure the current creditors would argue they're already owed greece
[00:13:36] <nick> so don't need china to get involved anymore than they most likely already are
[00:16:17] <paulej72> if they pay off the debts they own the country.
[00:18:04] <nick> i mean if the greeks dont pay off the debt, then the financial institutions which China will have various levels of involvement in, will take official ownership
[00:20:44] <paulej72> maybe they can just pass the hat around at the next UN meeting
[00:21:00] <nick> thats what theyve already been doing
[00:21:29] <nick> which is the whole point of the IMF/ECB at this point, working out who is going to loan them more money, so the greeks can then pay it back on the money they borrowed last week
[00:22:18] <nick> but the problem is ever decreasing circles of that as the more payments due to the IMF, the more the IMF needs to let Greece borrow.
[00:23:33] <nick> but part of the deal, for the IMF to continue giving them money to pay the same IMF off from previous loans, is that they need to allow the international finance vultures in to pick apart greece
[00:24:12] <nick> which is pretty much the mission statement of the IMF
[00:25:12] <paulej72> how much for the parthanon
[00:25:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> and the IMF wants them to put in place "business friendly" practices - despite the fact the IMF themselves have found that those practices actually HURT a nation's economy.
[00:25:31] <nick> exactly my point AndyTheAbsurd
[00:25:40] <nick> although hurting national economies is irrelevant to the IMF/ECB
[00:25:55] <nick> ensuring global stability and investment opportunities is what matters
[00:26:05] <nick> greek people are a statistical irrelevance at this scale
[00:26:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> so the thing to do, really, is take a hint from Iceland, throw the IMF out of the country, imprison any giving the equivalent of subprime loans, bail out the citizens (not the corporations), and jack up the marginal tax rate on high income earners.
[00:27:46] <nick> Iceland seems to have done very well
[00:28:08] <nick> probably should read more on what theyve been upto, one could argue it's been absent from the mainstream narrative for that reason
[00:28:49] <nick> they left the aforementioned poker table and may have snuck out the casino via a service elevator
[00:31:46] <nick> are still members of the IMF/WB/BIS though, so perhaps not
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[00:53:56] <cmn32480> hiya kids
[00:54:07] <cmn32480> and adults (if any exist here)
[00:54:59] * cmn32480 shakes the submission tin LOUDLY
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[00:57:16] * cmn32480 shakes the submission tin LOUDLY
[00:57:27] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[00:59:22] <cmn32480> Heh! waht?
[00:59:51] <cmn32480> the queue looks like a bachelor's cupboard.... empty with a side of tumbleweed
[01:03:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> did we do this one yet? http://www.technologyreview.com
[01:03:40] <exec> └─ 13Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Then Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon | MIT Technology Review
[01:03:48] <BadCoderFinger> Dangit. Now I have to find a tumbleweed.
[01:04:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> or the 3D printed jet engine?
[01:05:14] <cmn32480> not tht I have seen
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[01:18:52] <SirFinkus> fucking nanotubes again
[01:19:31] <SirFinkus> what haven't carbon nanotubes theoretically done?
[01:20:21] <SirFinkus> I say theoretically, because I haven't seen the awesome batteries/superstrong materials/world peace every article about them seems to promise
[01:20:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> they theoretically haven't done your mom.
[01:20:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> THEORETICALLY.
[01:20:39] <SirFinkus> all they seem to actually do is cause cancer
[01:20:57] <SirFinkus> my mother would need more than a nanotube
[01:21:23] <SirFinkus> but yeah, apparently if you breathe them in, instacancer
[01:25:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> somebody could track down a non-techdirt.com post about this and submit it: https://www.techdirt.com
[01:25:50] <exec> └─ 13Expired Bogus Patent On Basic Computer Firewall Now Being Used To Shake Down Lots Of Companies | Techdirt
[01:25:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm too tired to do any more submitting tonight, I think.
[01:26:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> I did a HORRIBLE job on that nanotube-spider-silk story and I just didn't care.
[01:27:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> actually, there's a couple of other good things on the front page of techdirt is somebody who isn't me wants to submit them.
[01:28:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> me, I'm going to bed.
[01:43:23] <cmn32480> g;night AndyTheAbsurd
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[02:38:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Iraqi Government Shut Down Internet to... Prevent Exam Cheating - http://sylnt.us - official-story
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[04:10:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Uber Acquires Mapping Assets and Employees From Microsoft/Bing - http://sylnt.us - project-map
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[06:11:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Supreme Court Strikes Down New Anti-Pollution Rules - http://sylnt.us - not-a-walk-in-the-park
[07:41:45] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.news.com.au
[07:41:49] <exec> └─ 13Adobe Flash update to avoid threat
[07:42:16] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[07:42:55] <crutchy> hehe. AndyTheAbsurd, and you thought your submission was shit :P
[07:43:17] <crutchy> exec is a total douchebag to the poor SN editors
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[08:06:47] <JamesNZ> sn_editors++
[08:06:47] <Bender> karma - sn_editors: 1
[08:07:09] <JamesNZ> magit++
[08:07:09] <Bender> karma - magit: 4
[08:13:23] <crutchy> "China won Iraq with American blood and treasure. That's pure Sun Tzu."
[08:13:41] <crutchy> i think that's probably quote of the day
[08:14:04] <crutchy> chinese are sly bastards
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[08:35:56] <JamesNZ> Wait, someone won? I must've missed a memo :)
[08:43:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Discovery Outbids National Broadcasters for Olympics - http://sylnt.us - five-rings-to-rule-them-all
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[09:02:41] <janrinok> hi guys
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[10:20:36] <janrinok|afk> good morning SirFinkus
[10:20:57] <SirFinkus> morning
[10:21:02] <SirFinkus> but you're afk
[10:21:07] <SirFinkus> is this some kind of ambush?
[10:21:12] <janrinok|afk> yeah, it's magic
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[10:21:58] <janrinok> how's things?
[10:23:03] <SirFinkus> pretty shitty, but meh
[10:23:13] <janrinok> sry to hear that.
[10:23:42] <SirFinkus> well, I'm alive, so that's a plus I guess
[10:23:55] <janrinok> that can certainly be considered a plus
[10:26:10] <janrinok> time to go afk again - laters SirFinkus
[10:26:14] <SirFinkus> cya
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[11:15:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon - http://sylnt.us - side-of-nightmare-with-your-space-elevator
[11:23:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> you kept my department line? Nice!
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[12:46:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Outsourcing Online Ad Management to AOL - http://sylnt.us - you've-got-mail
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[14:48:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Working 3D printed jet engine - http://sylnt.us - homemade-jet-pack-on-the-horizon
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[15:18:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Congress Moves to Block Human Embryo Editing - http://sylnt.us - but-think-of-the-children?
[15:23:13] <swiss> man, the facination with coffee at work still eludes me
[15:24:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> the reasons to drink coffee at all still eludes me
[15:25:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> there are tastier beverages that also contain caffeine
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[15:58:58] <mechanicjay> coffee++
[15:58:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1470
[16:22:00] <cmn32480> Amen!
[16:38:18] <everdred> coffee++
[16:38:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1471
[16:38:46] <everdred> Coffee may be an acquired taste, but it's an incredibly useful taste to acquire.
[16:38:57] <cmn32480> AMEN!
[16:39:01] <cmn32480> coffee++
[16:39:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1472
[16:40:50] <everdred> Imagine
[16:41:23] <everdred> ...coffee shops as caffeine dispensaries on every corner.
[16:41:51] <cmn32480> isn't there a starbucks, 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts on eery corner as it is?
[16:42:26] <everdred> Exactly.
[16:42:44] <cmn32480> and I have a pot in my office
[16:42:51] <everdred> It's also useful to not have high standards when it comes to taste.
[16:43:07] <cmn32480> I have standards
[16:43:14] <everdred> ...which is why I can drink the coffee at my office. :)
[16:43:16] <cmn32480> adn more importantly, I know what I like.
[16:43:28] <cmn32480> I like the coffee I brew in the office.
[16:43:37] <cmn32480> I like 7-11 (especially the Blueberry)
[16:43:41] <cmn32480> I like Dunkin' Donuts
[16:43:58] <cmn32480> I abhor Starbucks and will forego coffee if that is the only thing avaialble
[16:45:00] <everdred> Interesting. Even across the whole light/dark roast spectrum?
[16:45:22] <everdred> When I remember to grind beans at home, I like the office coffee as well. But most of the time I don't and I just drink what's there.
[16:46:16] <cmn32480> we typically brew Maxwell House at the office, with a bag of Dunkin' when I feel like buying it.
[16:46:33] <cmn32480> Starbucks brewed coffee is by far the worst thing on thier menu
[16:46:53] <cmn32480> but I can't have anything with milk in it, so I drink black
[16:47:41] <everdred> The ability to drink black coffee is like a super-power.
[16:48:40] <cmn32480> necessity... not ability
[16:49:17] <cmn32480> I don't have a choice. Either drink it black, or the lactose intolerance takes over adn I shit myself stupid.
[16:49:58] <cmn32480> on the whole, I'd ratehr have xray vision or be able to fly. can I trade the black coffee drinking in for one of those?
[16:50:23] <everdred> Yeah, I learned by a different sort of "necessity" years ago... when the office was milk-less for a few weeks. I eventually found I liked it better without.
[16:51:02] <everdred> Doubtful.
[16:51:21] <cmn32480> and by fly I mean without an airplane or a catapult.
[16:52:10] <everdred> How about Rocketeer-style?
[16:52:36] <cmn32480> I think I'd be ok with that... minus the whole running out of fuel thing
[17:06:33] <everdred> That one's easy; just don't.
[17:13:17] <cmn32480> that one is easy until you are all up in the air having fun and all of a sudden... pfft
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[17:50:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Your Personal Information is Private, Unless We Need to Sell It - http://sylnt.us - you-mean-sombody-hadn't-realised?
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[20:22:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Chinese Artificial Intelligence Program Just Beat Humans in an IQ Test. - http://sylnt.us
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[21:53:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Most Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) leaks users' details. - http://sylnt.us - oops-didn't-think-about-that-one
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[22:10:55] <_NSAKEY> Any staff around?
[22:11:17] <_NSAKEY> This is a link to the paper mentioned in the VPN story, which would greatly increase the quality of that submission: http://www.degruyter.com
[22:11:22] <exec> └─ 13A Glance through the VPN Looking Glass: IPv6 Leakage and DNS Hijacking in Commercial VPN clients : Proceedings on Privacy Enhancing Technologies
[22:11:31] <_NSAKEY> I posted it in the comments, but it's always best to have such things in the article body itself.
[22:20:47] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:20:47] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:20:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1473
[22:32:23] <crutchy> damn workipoos :L
[22:53:16] <Gravis> thinking--
[22:53:16] <Bender> karma - thinking: -5
[22:53:25] <Gravis> crutchy: you think too much
[23:23:05] <Landon> Kepler not being a butt: https://youtu.be enjoy crazy puppy run
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[23:55:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Underfunded, Disorganized Plan To Save Earth From the Next Giant Asteroid - http://sylnt.us - overlooked-and-underfunded