#Soylent | Logs for 2015-06-23

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[00:06:50] <BadCoderFinger> Hey SirFinkus. How are things?
[00:07:00] <SirFinkus> not too shabby
[00:29:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New ESA Head Wörner: 'We Could Build All Kinds of Things with Moon Concrete' - http://sylnt.us - regolith-monolith
[00:36:25] <BadCoderFinger> Woohoo! Mooncrete! Think of the hamburger stands!
[00:40:52] <takyon> think of the theme park
[00:52:48] -!- MoonCreep [MoonCreep!~SpallsHur@Soylent/Users/656/SpallsHurgenson] has joined #Soylent
[00:56:36] <takyon> hot man on moon action
[00:57:56] <Bytram> !uid
[00:57:57] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5570, owned by marcdeop
[00:58:16] <Bytram> we've been adding users more quickly lately...
[00:58:34] MoonCreep is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[00:58:44] <Bytram> date-checked nicks-added-since-last-check
[00:58:45] <Bytram> 06/01/2015 2
[00:58:46] <Bytram> 06/04/2015 117
[00:58:46] <Bytram> 06/06/2015 44
[00:58:46] <Bytram> 06/08/2015 10
[00:58:47] <Bytram> 06/10/2015 22
[00:58:49] <Bytram> 06/12/2015 22
[00:58:51] <Bytram> 06/13/2015 1
[00:58:53] <Bytram> 06/14/2015 5
[00:58:55] <Bytram> 06/19/2015 16
[00:58:57] <Bytram> 06/20/2015 18
[00:58:59] <Bytram> 06/21/2015 15
[00:59:01] <Bytram> 06/22/2015 12
[00:59:03] <arti> bytram is an eggdrop
[00:59:08] <arti> i can tell by the speed
[00:59:17] <Bytram> there had been quite a stretch where we were adding 3-4 nicks a day
[00:59:26] <Bytram> Speed Racer!
[00:59:35] <Bytram> coffee++
[00:59:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1454
[00:59:36] <arti> :)
[00:59:41] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[00:59:42] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 67°F, partly cloudy, wind NE at 5 mph, humidity 84% - Monday partly cloudy (64°F-74°F), Tuesday scattered thunderstorms (63°F-84°F), Wednesday sunny (62°F-80°F), Thursday mostly sunny (60°F-79°F)
[00:59:44] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[00:59:46] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 62°F, mostly cloudy, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 90% - Monday partly cloudy (59°F-71°F), Tuesday rain (59°F-75°F), Wednesday sunny (57°F-80°F), Thursday mostly sunny (55°F-78°F)
[00:59:48] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[00:59:49] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 62°F, sunny, wind NE at 1 mph, humidity 74% - Monday partly cloudy (49°F-68°F), Tuesday rain (53°F-62°F), Wednesday mostly sunny (48°F-73°F), Thursday mostly cloudy (46°F-63°F)
[00:59:54] <SpallsHurgenson> how odd, those dates correspond to when Dice started the new changes to slashdot
[01:00:09] * Bytram is still observing the slashcott
[01:00:33] <Bytram> haven't been there except a few times to see how they handled stuff that we were having issues with on our site
[01:01:26] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[01:01:31] <exec> └─ 13It begins: Time Warner Cable first ISP accused of breaking America's net neutrality rules • The Register - 03http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/23/fcc_net_neutrality_lawsuit/
[01:01:45] <Bytram> yay! exec is back!
[01:01:58] <paulej72> hey Bytram
[01:02:19] <arti> back?
[01:02:20] <Bytram> hola!
[01:02:36] <arti> [15:45] <@takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[01:02:36] <arti> [15:45] <exec> └─ There’s a new ‘Silicon Valley of drones’ and it isn’t in California - MarketWatch
[01:02:37] <arti> [15:46] <@takyon> https://nationalmaglab.org
[01:02:38] <arti> [15:46] <exec> └─ MagLab - MagLab claims record with novel superconducting magnet [MagLab MagLab claims record with novel superconducting magnet]
[01:02:39] <arti> [15:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Weighing a Business Break-up or Spin-off per Reuters - http://sylnt.us - survival-of-the-fittest
[01:02:41] <exec> └─ 13There’s a new ‘Silicon Valley of drones’ and it isn’t in California - MarketWatch
[01:02:44] <exec> └─ 13MagLab - MagLab claims record with novel superconducting magnet [04MagLab MagLab claims record with novel superconducting magnet]
[01:02:45] <exec> └─ 13AMD Weighing a Business Break-up or Spin-off per Reuters - SoylentNews - 03https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/06/22/1547221&from=rss
[01:02:47] <arti> :|
[01:02:53] * arti tosses exec a ciri snack
[01:02:56] <takyon> wtf
[01:02:56] <Bytram> arti: earlier this week(?) there was no response when posting links here; I tried to restart exec, but had no luck
[01:03:36] <arti> you need to level up your bot skill
[01:03:45] <arti> that'll be like +4 to all your skill rolls
[01:04:15] * Bytram rumages around his tool box for a skill saw
[01:04:19] <Bytram> =)
[01:07:25] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:07:28] <exec> └─ 13It begins: Time Warner Cable first ISP accused of breaking America's net neutrality rules • The Register
[01:08:19] <Bytram> takyon: funny you should pick that one; I just pasted in the same link about 6/7 minutes ago. =)
[01:08:29] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:08:34] <exec> └─ 13Where is Europe's Silicon Valley? - SoylentNews
[01:08:35] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:08:40] <exec> └─ 13Where is Europe's Silicon Valley? - SoylentNews
[01:09:01] <Bytram> just testing to see if the site can handle a 'title' in the URL
[01:09:03] <takyon> Bytram: my relationship with reading is complicated
[01:09:11] <Bytram> I read you
[01:10:09] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[01:10:12] <exec> └─ 13Tesla plots China turnaround after weak sales - MarketWatch
[01:10:42] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[01:10:42] <arti> https://youtu.be
[01:10:45] <exec> └─ 13Tesla plots China turnaround after weak sales - MarketWatch
[01:10:46] <exec> └─ 13Building a primitive wattle and daub hut from scratch - YouTube - 03https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCKkHqlx9dE&feature=youtu.be
[01:10:50] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[01:10:54] <exec> └─ 13Oi! Hands off America's WiFi spectrum! Thunders, umm, cable lobby • The Register
[01:13:14] <paulej72> But Bytram the title is in a tag <a href="url" title="title">link<a/>
[01:14:14] <Bytram> presents a different 'visability'
[01:14:14] <NCommander> finally off the road
[01:14:15] <takyon> <a/><a/>
[01:14:19] <Bytram> NCommander: wb!
[01:14:25] <takyon> <a/>______<a/>
[01:23:50] * NCommander is doing some reading on DNSSEC
[01:26:54] * Bytram wonders how many RFCs that will entail if he goes all the way back to the original DNS specs.
[01:27:27] <NCommander> Bytram, a lot
[01:28:56] <Bytram> NCommander: you have a gift for understatement
[01:29:27] <Bytram> didn't it all start off as bang paths, that eventually got transformed into HOSTS files that got replicated around the net?
[01:30:22] <SirFinkus> smoke signals
[01:30:31] * Bytram reminisces about DECnet back in the early 80's -- DEC's entire network map fit on two sheets of wide, greenbar line-printer paper
[01:30:46] <SirFinkus> morse over ip
[01:30:49] <Bytram> drawn with just ASCII chars
[01:31:06] <SirFinkus> or semaphore
[01:32:02] <Bytram> IPOA
[01:32:12] <Bytram> Internet Protocol Over Avian
[01:32:23] <arti> vs the boob giving IPA
[01:32:32] <SirFinkus> IPA?
[01:32:38] <SirFinkus> don't mind if I do
[01:33:49] <NCommander> Bytram, bang paths were never used for WWW, but on email, and are still used on USENET
[01:34:25] <NCommander> Bytram, DECnet was a 16-bit address. IPv4 was 32-bit, IPv6 is 64-bit
[01:34:26] <NCommander> :)
[01:34:54] <NCommander> Bytram, I could always setup a DECnet for you on the SN systems accessible via VPN or DECnet-over-IP stuff
[01:35:20] <SpallsHurgenson> usenet doesn't really USE bang paths, they're just a holdover from the old days. For show only (IIRC :)
[01:35:48] <SirFinkus> is gopher SN still a thing?
[01:38:18] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[01:38:22] <exec> └─ 13Charleston manifesto: Controversial blogger 'hates violence' - BBC News
[01:38:24] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[01:38:28] <exec> └─ 13Call to halt legal highs ban based on 'flawed' Irish system - BBC News
[01:38:31] <Bytram> SirFinkus: unless it got toasted with the rehash install, I don't see why it should not work!
[01:39:03] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[01:39:05] <exec> └─ 13'It's a good thing'? Martha Stewart Living sold off after years of eroding value | Life and style | The Guardian
[01:39:29] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[01:39:32] <exec> └─ 13Walmart removes Confederate flag merchandise from stores | US news | The Guardian
[01:39:58] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[01:40:01] <exec> └─ 13Four Republican hopefuls return money after 'Dylann Roof manifesto' revelation | US news | The Guardian
[01:40:13] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[01:40:16] <exec> └─ 13Isis suspends two boys from pole in Syria for eating during Ramadan – report | World news | The Guardian
[01:40:24] * SirFinkus puts on tin foil hat
[01:40:35] <SirFinkus> it occurs to me that all these guys release manifestos
[01:40:46] <arti> "hanging out"
[01:41:02] <SirFinkus> what if the feds are writing them to try and marginalize certain political beliefs?
[01:41:16] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[01:41:20] <exec> └─ 13Our deep need for monsters that lurk in the dark - BBC News
[01:41:45] <takyon> yeah nobody has ever had that thought SirFinkus
[01:41:47] <SpallsHurgenson> wait... doesn't soylent have a manifesto? :)
[01:41:48] <takyon> falseflag.jpg
[01:41:57] <SirFinkus> I'm sure they have
[01:42:09] <SirFinkus> it just occurred to me though
[01:42:50] <SirFinkus> I've tried to start a few conspiracy theories to see if they get any traction, but every time somebody has beaten me to the punch
[01:42:51] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[01:42:53] <exec> └─ 13EU extends sanctions against Russia as Ukraine conflict rumbles on | World news | The Guardian
[01:42:54] * arti waits for finkus to pass the doob
[01:43:09] * takyon snatches the doob
[01:43:10] <SirFinkus> get your own arti
[01:43:10] <arti> you just have to do on the internet, i think you can do some extra good ones with diversity
[01:43:22] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[01:43:24] <arti> i share :/
[01:43:25] <exec> └─ 13Chile’s largest city temporarily shut down due to smog 'emergency' | World news | The Guardian
[01:43:46] <arti> i was surprised to find out there are places dirtier than china
[01:44:02] <takyon> it's hard work getting dirtier than china
[01:44:05] <SirFinkus> I hear mexico city is super bad too
[01:46:51] <paulej72> https://soylentnews.org
[01:46:57] <exec> └─ 13What We Are Going To Be: The Manifesto - SoylentNews
[01:50:13] * NCommander was going to move to Mexico City
[01:54:18] <Bytram> see, seen your!
[01:54:28] * Bytram has a lousy spanish accent
[01:57:15] <SpallsHurgenson> I found it very convincing.
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[02:00:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Airplanes Grounded in Poland After Hackers Allegedly Attack Flight Plan Computer - http://sylnt.us - hax
[02:01:27] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:01:30] <exec> └─ 13Redmond: IE Win 8.1 defence destroying hack ain't worth patch, natch • The Register
[02:02:58] <SpallsHurgenson> The Register must be poaching title-writers from Variety
[02:03:21] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[02:03:23] <exec> └─ 13Ronald Reagan statue unveiled in California – 'bigger than life, like he was' | US news | The Guardian
[02:03:57] <paulej72> Why did that make me think of Ethanol_Fueled
[02:08:30] <arti> why so many guardian links
[02:10:07] * arti counters
[02:10:11] <arti> http://es6-features.org
[02:10:13] <Bytram> cause they have the more interesting links that pop up in #rss-bot channel?
[02:10:15] <exec> └─ 13ECMAScript 6: New Features: Overview and Comparison - 03http://es6-features.org//
[02:10:47] <Bytram> and how many older browsers will be able to take advantage of es6?
[02:10:57] <paulej72> none
[02:11:04] <arti> you say that like it's a bad thing
[02:11:04] <Bytram> zactly.
[02:11:15] <arti> older browsers need to die
[02:11:25] <paulej72> current ones too
[02:11:33] <arti> bytram: how many transpilers exist: tons.
[02:11:35] <paulej72> they all seem to suck
[02:11:37] * Bytram looks over at his lynx browser and disagrees
[02:11:42] <arti> paulej72: just like most softare, point?
[02:11:47] <Bytram> lol
[02:11:49] <takyon> who even needs const
[02:12:00] <takyon> ...in their javascript
[02:12:20] <Bytram> okay, I'm tired and it's getting late. I've not had a full night's sleep in over a week and need to try and do some catching up.
[02:12:26] <Bytram> nice chatting with all of ya!
[02:12:28] <arti> bytram, what is considered older browsers?
[02:12:44] <Bytram> anything that does not support ES6? =)
[02:13:09] <arti> https://kangax.github.io
[02:13:11] <Bytram> the point is, even though ES6 might be the bees knees, it can't just be used everywhere right from the start.
[02:13:13] <exec> └─ 13ECMAScript 6 compatibility table
[02:13:31] <arti> bytram, it'll be another 10 years
[02:13:48] <takyon> default parameter values, that's nice
[02:13:50] <arti> thankfully people have been working on this issue :)
[02:13:51] <Bytram> sites will need to have some kind of compatibility glue to handle pre-existing / unsupported browsers.
[02:14:00] <Bytram> good to hear
[02:14:07] <takyon> browsers are updated far more frequently these days
[02:14:08] <Bytram> and it's good to sleep, too.
[02:14:11] <arti> bytram, thttps://github.com
[02:14:15] <exec> └─ 13termi/es6-transpiler · GitHub
[02:14:25] <arti> https://github.com
[02:14:29] <exec> └─ 13addyosmani/es6-tools · GitHub
[02:14:45] <arti> author it in the new way, support the old cruft
[02:14:54] <arti> progress :D
[02:14:58] <Bytram> thanks for that.
[02:15:05] <Bytram> yup, progressis goo.
[02:15:13] <Bytram> *good
[02:15:15] * arti feeds bytram some magic brownies
[02:15:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I liked goo more :)
[02:15:19] <arti> you'll sleep so good tonight
[02:15:24] <Bytram> ugh. /me can't even type anymore
[02:15:33] <Bytram> g'night all!
[02:15:35] <paulej72> good night Bytram
[02:15:36] <arti> i'll have our resident giant lug you to your quarters
[02:15:45] <takyon> binary and octal literals could be useful... no hexadecimal literal?
[02:15:50] <paulej72> he is the brute squad
[02:15:53] <takyon> or does that already exist
[02:15:58] <SpallsHurgenson> its sticky, sometimes slimy yet most of us have a hard time resisting the urge to play with it :)
[02:16:01] <Bytram> we looks out third floor window and waits for Paul Bunyan
[02:16:17] <arti> hodor!
[02:16:26] <arti> wunwun :D
[02:16:49] <Bytram> but fears that, instead, he'll be face to face with Babe, the blue ox.
[02:17:04] <SpallsHurgenson> its not Babe's FACE you really need to worry about
[02:17:09] * arti was thinking the same thing
[02:17:10] <arti> #chips
[02:17:11] <takyon> computed property names seems useful. maybe too useful
[02:17:13] <SpallsHurgenson> there are some major downsides to having a 40' tall ox
[02:17:32] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: oh shit, thanks for the laugh!
[02:18:00] <arti> just think of all the energy you'll be able to save burning that stuff
[02:18:04] <Bytram> and on that [brown] note, g'nighht@!
[02:18:08] <arti> :P nite
[02:18:11] <paulej72> only if you are underneath that ox
[02:19:32] <SpallsHurgenson> why was Babe blue again? He was frozen or something, wasn't it?
[02:19:44] * SpallsHurgenson nervously checks wikipedia
[02:20:03] <NCommander> paulej72, BTW, where are we on removing Linode NS's and running our own?
[02:20:06] <SpallsHurgenson> (if I'm not back in two hours, cut the network lines)
[02:20:25] <paulej72> Is it still getting hits?
[02:22:13] <takyon> "Number Safety Checking"? How about adding support for 64-bit integers in javascript instead!
[02:23:22] <takyon> "Math.trunc" is useful, but could use the decimal counterpart
[02:25:22] <NCommander> paulej72, the nodebalancer still getting a little bit of traffic but damned if I know from where
[02:25:23] <takyon> otherwise it's gonna be (42.7 - Math.trunc(42.7))
[02:25:37] <NCommander> paulej72, I was referring moving soylentnews.org to a BIND nstance
[02:26:04] <paulej72> oh that. I can work on it this weekend.
[02:28:21] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "Did I hear somebody mention bondage?"
[02:31:36] <takyon> http://www.theplatform.net
[02:31:39] <exec> └─ 13Exabyte Scale Automation Filters into New File System
[02:32:51] <NCommander> paulej72, :). I'm thinking just to disable the port forwarding on the node balancer and figure out what blows up when users complain
[02:33:14] <takyon> sounds terrible
[02:33:42] <paulej72> NCommander: I game for that
[02:38:44] <NCommander> paulej72, its possible its the tor server, but I swore I changed that
[02:38:49] * NCommander checks that before throwing the switch
[02:42:07] <NCommander> paulej72, ugh, looks like DNS replication from helium->boron took a shit. Boron stil thinks sylnt.us is at the nodebalnacer
[02:43:58] <paulej72> NCommander: what domain?
[02:44:56] <NCommander> paulej72, wait, scratch that, replication is working, I'm an idiot
[02:45:14] <NCommander> Someone backed up boron's database into helium's /etc/bind directory and my mind got confused
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[02:50:02] <SpallsHurgenson> "By 2017 the world economy has collapsed. Food, natural resources and oil are in short supply. A police state, divided into paramilitary zones, rules with an iron hand. Television is controlled by the state and a sadistic game show called 'The Running Man' has become the most popular show in history."
[02:56:15] <Landon> running man :D
[02:56:15] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[02:56:18] <exec> └─ 13We Happy Few Trailer - YouTube
[02:58:23] <Landon> heh
[02:58:32] <Landon> willy wonka's chocolate factory opened today while I was at work
[02:58:35] <Landon> got my invite to google foobar
[02:58:36] <Landon> <3
[02:58:47] <Landon> now to not be an augustus gloop
[02:58:52] <Landon> or veruca salt
[02:59:01] <arti> hiring program?
[03:00:15] <Landon> yeah
[03:00:28] <Landon> not especially interested in the positions I'd actually be qualified for, but at least the puzzles are fun
[03:06:18] <SpallsHurgenson> god, they really knew how to make crappy sci-fi movies in the '90s :)
[03:07:08] <arti> kudos landon :)
[03:09:43] <arti> http://www.theonion.com
[03:15:44] <SpallsHurgenson> even knowing that was an onion article, I still had to remind myself three times while reading that it wasn't real :)
[03:15:57] <Landon> some of my favorites as a young lad were the german ones :)
[03:18:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I believe that would qualify as "TMI"
[03:19:18] <arti> #masterrace
[03:21:09] <SpallsHurgenson> this movie gets worse and worse; I love it!
[03:26:19] <arti> watching civil war movies?
[03:26:39] <SpallsHurgenson> The Running Man; Arnold at his cheesiest!
[03:27:31] <arti> classic
[03:31:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australia Passes Controversial Anti-Piracy Web Censorship Law - http://sylnt.us - down-under-down
[03:33:35] <SpallsHurgenson> internet censorship? that doesn't sound like Australia!
[03:37:06] <arti> http://imgur.com
[03:37:09] <exec> └─ 13When you're done arguing with someone and you hear them say something under their breath - Imgur
[03:43:32] <NCommander> eek
[03:43:38] <NCommander> I just unleashed a novel on a user
[03:43:48] <arti> ?
[03:43:53] <NCommander> https://soylentnews.org
[03:43:58] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Real-Life Experience With HSTS/HPKP
[03:49:22] <arti> interesting thread
[03:49:30] * arti liked _NSAKEY's post
[03:50:27] <NCommander> _NSAKEY, you around? I commented on your SSH setup
[03:51:42] <arti> http://imgur.com
[03:51:44] <exec> └─ 13I have never seen a less impressed audience, they just want their new games. - GIF on Imgur
[03:55:21] <_NSAKEY> NCommander: I am.
[03:55:37] <arti> thanks for linking to your setup btw
[03:55:40] <arti> _NSAKEY++
[03:55:40] <Bender> karma - _nsakey: 2
[03:55:46] <_NSAKEY> I was about to reply, but can just do that here.
[03:55:54] <arti> ...but the record must state!
[03:58:44] <_NSAKEY> Fine. I'll craft a reply.
[03:59:00] <_NSAKEY> But I will say that things like SunSSH and putty will NOT work with that setup.
[03:59:11] <_NSAKEY> I had to abandon filezilla because it uses putty-style ssh keys.
[03:59:30] <NCommander> _NSAKEY, you can covert openssh keys to putty-style
[03:59:39] <NCommander> Its a slight PITA though
[03:59:45] <NCommander> _NSAKEY, BTW, your two cents here: https://soylentnews.org
[03:59:49] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Real-Life Experience With HSTS/HPKP
[03:59:51] <_NSAKEY> NCommander: I couldn't get anything to work.
[04:00:13] <NCommander> _NSAKEY, probably because last time I checked, PuTTY barfed with RSA keys greater than 1024. Pretty sure they fixed that
[04:00:28] <_NSAKEY> Also, that setup was so hard when I made that github project that github + ssh key auth wouldn't work.
[04:01:40] <NCommander> _NSAKEY, my general opinion is that the NSA may be able to crack RSA with 1024 bit keys, but I'd be very suprised if they can do it in real-time
[04:01:59] <_NSAKEY> NCommander: That's why I mentioned forward secrecy so prominently.
[04:02:16] <NCommander> _NSAKEY, we haz it ;)
[04:02:20] <_NSAKEY> Wholesale, uncompromising cryptoanarchism is the only passable solution to combatting their bullshit.
[04:02:31] <NCommander> We have SSL session caching as well, but 10m timeouts on that to limit possible fuckups
[04:03:03] <NCommander> _NSAKEY, we're not a high value target, but I want to set an example
[04:04:23] <_NSAKEY> That's why I went so hard with those two sites I mentioned in the comments.
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[05:33:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Music Changes Policy After Taylor Swift's Stand, and Paul Krugman on the Industry - http://sylnt.us - face-the-music
[05:39:46] <crutchy> _NSAKEY, do you mind if i add your repos to our #github channel feed?
[05:40:28] <_NSAKEY> crutchy: I don't mind. My commits are pretty low volume, but when I do them they tend to be between the hours of 1 and 5 AM.
[05:40:38] <_NSAKEY> Thus, lots of dumb typos have to be corrected later.
[05:40:41] <_NSAKEY> Just keep that in mind.
[05:41:42] <arti> crutchy will play you the song of his people
[05:42:14] <crutchy> the american national anthem?
[05:42:31] <crutchy> or does the NSA have its own song?
[05:42:37] <arti> i think they have their own
[05:43:26] <crutchy> can't be miley's 'wrecking ball' cos that's already taken by congress
[06:04:02] <arti> Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon
[06:28:19] * crutchy shudders
[06:28:37] <crutchy> paul krugman has been mentioned on SN
[06:41:50] <crutchy> http://www.smh.com.au
[06:41:53] <exec> └─ 13How 'free' geo-dodging and proxy services are selling you out
[06:43:58] <crutchy> https://proxycheck.haschek.at
[06:44:02] <exec> └─ 13Proxychecker by Haschek Solutions
[06:45:19] <crutchy> wow. the captcha on that site is interesting. it asked me to pick all the images from a grid that had birthday cakes
[06:46:09] <crutchy> https://github.com
[06:46:13] <exec> └─ 13chrisiaut/proxycheck_script · GitHub
[06:47:54] <crutchy> http://metro.co.uk
[06:47:57] <exec> └─ 13Adult ebooks banned before before 10pm in Germany | Metro News
[06:48:09] <crutchy> before before?
[06:48:40] <crutchy> the chick in that photo is definitely reading mummy porn
[06:51:44] <SirFinkus> crutchy: that's googles new recaptcha
[06:52:03] <SirFinkus> they've been using it for a few months
[06:53:58] <crutchy> http://www.businessinsider.com.au
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[07:00:47] <crutchy> http://tech.slashdot.org
[07:00:50] <exec> └─ 13The US Navy's Warfare Systems Command Just Paid Millions To Stay On Windows XP - Slashdot
[07:01:40] <crutchy> http://www.techradar.com
[07:01:45] <exec> └─ 13Forget Humvees: The US wants hoverbikes on the battlefield | TechRadar
[07:01:56] <_NSAKEY> crutchy: That isn't surprising, re: the proxies. Those have always been shady.
[07:03:00] <crutchy> its sort of interesting for aussies given we might have to look out for some decent ones now that our government is in the mpaa's pocket
[07:03:23] <crutchy> 'once you in there, you aint ever coming out'
[07:03:49] <_NSAKEY> What about getting a VPS in a country (Or even just a datacenter) that doesn't care and setting up OpenVPN on it?
[07:04:01] <_NSAKEY> Or even rtorrent + tmux, for that matter.
[07:07:06] <crutchy> could do that i guess. i'm wary of 'free' vps too though
[07:07:29] <_NSAKEY> Yeah, I wouldn't do that either.
[07:09:03] <crutchy> there's only one shady site that i go to anyway, and whenever they get shutdown they just change their country code
[07:13:42] <crutchy> _NSAKEY++
[07:13:42] <Bender> karma - _nsakey: 3
[07:34:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Physics of Badminton - http://sylnt.us - badmin-tonnes
[07:36:10] <arti> does it rhyme with desireitbay?
[08:58:04] <SirFinkus> http://www.telegraph.co.uk
[08:58:09] <exec> └─ 13'Abortion drone' to drop DIY drugs over Poland to women - Telegraph
[08:58:16] <SirFinkus> damn, the abortion drone could be so much neater
[09:36:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Recycling is Dying - http://sylnt.us - wasting-away
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[10:24:25] <k_benzoate> Anyone home?
[10:26:33] * SirFinkus lurks
[10:28:30] <k_benzoate> I always think of mirelurks when I see that word.
[10:28:48] <SirFinkus> lol
[10:28:49] <ciri> heh
[10:33:08] <k_benzoate> If anyone hasn't read The Martian, you really ought to do so.
[10:34:19] <SirFinkus> what's it about?
[10:34:25] * SirFinkus likes asking stupid questions
[10:35:47] <k_benzoate> An astronaut on Mars.
[10:36:30] <k_benzoate> You should read it before the movie, starring Matt Damon, is released.
[10:36:43] <k_benzoate> You've a couple months.
[10:37:08] <SirFinkus> I'll consider it, I think I've heard of it before
[10:39:57] <k_benzoate> It's well researched and very cross disciplined.
[10:41:26] <k_benzoate> I feel like the author must be some sort of engineer but I don't know what kind.
[10:42:41] <SirFinkus> https://en.wikipedia.org(writer)
[10:42:45] <SirFinkus> to wikipedia!
[10:42:46] <exec> └─ 13Andy Weir (writer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[10:44:16] <k_benzoate> CS then
[10:44:24] <k_benzoate> Makes sense
[10:55:09] <JamesNZ> SirFinkus: You beat exec!
[10:55:22] <SirFinkus> exec's been pretty slow lately
[10:55:55] <JamesNZ> Poor, overworked, exec.
[10:56:05] <JamesNZ> k_benzoate: I shall put it on my list :)
[10:56:32] <JamesNZ> Also, holy smokes at getting hired at 15.
[10:57:46] <crutchy> exec has always been slow
[10:58:50] <crutchy> but now i guess it has to churn through the new aussie internet filtration system
[10:59:00] <crutchy> (or will soon)
[10:59:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:59:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1455
[10:59:53] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[10:59:53] <Bender> karma - tea: 480
[10:59:54] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[10:59:54] <Bender> karma - tea: 481
[10:59:55] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[10:59:55] <Bender> karma - tea: 482
[11:00:12] <crutchy> need the mighty bot to take over title duty till chromas is back
[11:00:23] <crutchy> or what happened to ciri?
[11:00:30] <crutchy> wasn't it doing titles?
[11:00:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> where'd chromas go?
[11:01:22] <crutchy> he's gone in a red cape to visit grandma with a basket of cookies or some shit
[11:01:47] <crutchy> poor monopoly died
[11:02:05] <JamesNZ> What a sweet lad, taking care of his grandma like that.
[11:02:11] <JamesNZ> chromas++
[11:02:11] <Bender> karma - chromas: 110
[11:02:26] <crutchy> nah it was a family emergency
[11:02:50] <crutchy> he's playing uncle
[11:02:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yer out of luck, ima go smoke then get on making rss dynamic instead of generated every 10 minutes and served up static
[11:03:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> no time to play with the bot
[11:03:29] <crutchy> what's the difference between dynamic and static rss?
[11:03:46] <crutchy> with it fuck up exec's comment feed (that uses the xml feed)?
[11:04:14] <crutchy> not that i can't tweak it :p
[11:05:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> one is generated whenever you ask for the feed, one is a file with the feed in it served up when you ask
[11:06:29] <crutchy> from my googling it looks like no difference to the reader, syntactically at least
[11:06:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> difference in speed. flat file one is only generated every 10 minutes
[11:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> difference to admins cause the file needs to be on the webservers but we don't want to have to rsync it over
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[11:07:45] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i think the reason why exec is so slow is cos it's a mindfuck of convoluted wackery hackery... in php
[11:07:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk, smokin
[11:07:58] <k_benzoate> Doesn't that use more bandwidth?
[11:09:13] <k_benzoate> People still use php?
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[11:43:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, cmn32480
[11:44:08] <cmn32480> good mornign themightybuzzard
[11:44:14] <cmn32480> littel elss cranky this morning?
[11:44:21] <cmn32480> I'm not
[11:44:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah but i'm properly focused
[11:44:32] <cmn32480> that's good
[11:44:48] <cmn32480> I haven't killed anybody yet, so that is an upside
[11:45:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> not necessarily
[11:45:28] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[11:45:36] <cmn32480> the way I been chewing on people lately, yeah it is an improvement
[11:45:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> currently trying to fix something that's not broken as far as i can tell
[11:45:49] * cmn32480 imagines that is better than his balls
[11:46:13] <cmn32480> so what isn't broken?
[11:46:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> dynamically created rss/atom feeds
[11:47:11] * cmn32480 gets knocked over by the force of the WHOOSH!
[11:47:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> we turned them off maybe nine months ago because pj thought something was wrong with them but damned if i can find anything wrong
[11:47:51] <cmn32480> so if we turn them back on, people will either complain that they are broken, or cheer that they have been turned back on
[11:47:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> just means the server creates the feed when a user asks instead of serving up the contents of a file we generate every 10 minutes
[11:47:58] <cmn32480> win - win
[11:48:56] <cmn32480> SWEET! My backup server is working right again.
[11:49:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot
[11:49:07] <cmn32480> I fixed somethign, do I get to go home?
[11:49:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i was about to declare victory and go play video games too
[11:49:46] * cmn32480 mumbles something about setting the wrong card to passthrough to the server
[11:50:04] <cmn32480> that sounds like a fantastic way to spend the day
[11:50:12] <cmn32480> except that I am already at the office
[11:50:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> bad kind of office if they won't let you get your kill on
[11:50:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> least once in a while
[11:51:04] <cmn32480> not that they won't... (Halflife is installed on my laptop), they jsut want me to get the day's chores done first
[11:51:26] <cmn32480> and we are stoooopid busy right now, so I didn't finsih yesterday's chores eithre
[11:51:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> last office i worked at we used to have starcraft and TF deathcapades at least a couple times a week.
[11:51:52] <cmn32480> nice
[11:51:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, well that's another story
[11:52:08] <cmn32480> I'm a very lonely nerd
[11:52:34] <cmn32480> my techs are all great techs in their own area, but I'm the generalist
[11:52:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[11:52:52] <cmn32480> I have expert knowledge on most of the things we do as well as the IT systems
[11:53:07] * cmn32480 pats himself on back
[11:53:59] <cmn32480> all my people are subject matter experts in their stuff. and their knowledge far exceeds mine. but they aren't run of the mill nerds
[11:54:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> same here really. i could build you a house then set up a server farm in it for you.
[11:54:25] <cmn32480> with a q-tip and a leatherman only?
[11:54:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> extremely general in my knowings but my main awesomeness is in perl currently
[11:55:09] <cmn32480> you poor bastard. that explains how you got sucked inot this project
[11:55:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i was 10 years out of practice at web coding with perl when i started. so of course i jumped right in to making utf8 work.
[11:56:04] <cmn32480> like the story NC tells... "I played with Slash one time"
[11:56:36] <cmn32480> like riding a bicycle eh?
[11:57:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> more like riding an angry, angry bull
[11:57:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's going to throw you off and stomp you, it's just a matter of how long until it does.
[11:57:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> say, i've done that too. howzat for generalized experience?
[11:59:18] <cmn32480> not somethgin I have done... but it looks like it could be fun. if the bull kinda walked around, jiggled a little bit, maybe jumped once or twice on command from the trainer, then let me off at the stairs
[11:59:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> well damnit, now i have no idea what to do with myself. was all set for battling the feed generating bits of rehash and it doesn't look like there's a battle to be had.
[11:59:57] <cmn32480> ummm...
[12:00:20] <cmn32480> dunno.
[12:00:35] <cmn32480> I'm sure github has something you can work on.
[12:01:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> fsck that. i'm declaring victory and playing video games for a bit.
[12:01:33] <cmn32480> worst case... declare victory and blow shit up!
[12:02:04] <cmn32480> I am getting set for battle with a mountain of paperwork
[12:02:08] <cmn32480> not nearly as fun
[12:02:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth. you need a perl script to take care of that for you. or a minion if it has to be hardcopy.
[12:26:40] <cmn32480> requires a minion, as we have to be hard copy
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[12:40:25] <janrinok> hi guys
[12:53:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, janrinok
[12:54:12] <janrinok> hi TMB, how's things?
[12:56:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, fair nuff
[12:56:26] <janrinok> TMB- I hope that you don't mind, but I've just added a 'submit' example to your ApiDocs wiki page. It might seem obvious to you but it wasn't to me.
[12:57:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries
[12:57:55] <janrinok> what you got planned for today?
[12:58:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, was gonna work on rss but it appears to be workin fine
[12:59:14] <janrinok> didn't know it was broken...
[13:00:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> dynamic feeds, and apparently they aren't.
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[13:54:08] * Alberto hello all
[13:54:24] * Alberto good morning all
[13:55:42] <janrinok> good afternoon Alberto
[13:57:12] <Alberto> This is soo quiet!
[13:58:07] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[13:58:17] * cmn32480 waves
[13:58:26] <Alberto> TheMightyBuzzard, :>
[13:58:41] <Alberto> i can't see you without remember my perfect nicknames for you lol
[13:58:47] <cmn32480> tends to be quiet during the workday on the east coast of the US Alberto
[13:59:17] * Alberto preparing a server for Devuan project
[13:59:18] <Alberto> :D
[14:01:11] <janrinok> Is Devuan progressing well - I hadn't heard about it for a few weeks?
[14:01:27] <Alberto> its fine
[14:01:28] <Alberto> alive
[14:01:31] <Alberto> you can check git
[14:01:46] <janrinok> any ideas how soon until a formal release?
[14:01:48] <Alberto> https://git.devuan.org
[14:01:55] <exec> └─ 13Devuan project / devuan-project |
[14:01:56] <janrinok> looking
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[17:35:45] <cmn32480> ~weather baltimore, MD
[17:35:46] <exec> 03Baltimore, MD, USA - currently 93°F / 34°C, partly cloudy, wind SW at 10 mph, humidity 47% - Tuesday scattered thunderstorms (68°F-95°F / 20°C-35°C), Wednesday sunny (68°F-87°F / 20°C-31°C), Thursday scattered thunderstorms (70°F-86°F / 21°C-30°C), Friday showers (69°F-83°F / 21°C-28°C)
[17:39:34] <Alberto> ~weather San Cristobal de las Casas, CH
[17:39:35] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[17:39:40] <Alberto> ~weather San Cristobal de las Casas, Chiapas
[17:39:42] <exec> 03San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico - currently 73°F / 23°C, sunny, wind E at 7 mph, humidity 64% - Tuesday mostly sunny (53°F-74°F / 12°C-23°C), Wednesday thunderstorm (56°F-71°F / 13°C-22°C), Thursday thunderstorm (55°F-72°F / 13°C-22°C), Friday thunderstorm (55°F-72°F / 13°C-22°C)
[17:42:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - D-Wave's 1000+ Qubit "Quantum" Processor Announced - http://sylnt.us - but-does-it-run-linux?
[17:42:37] <Leebert> Please someone rescue me. On a call with a management person talking to a Gartner consultant.
[17:43:18] <cmn32480> Sorry Leebert.
[17:43:23] <cmn32480> You poor bastard
[17:43:37] * janrinok feels for you
[17:43:46] <Leebert> They are teaching us all about security.
[17:44:07] <Leebert> The good news is that they are affirming most of what I've said so far.
[17:44:15] <janrinok> wrap the phone wire around your foot and pull it out 'by accident'
[17:44:29] <janrinok> or is it a cell?
[17:44:36] <cmn32480> dead battery
[17:44:42] <janrinok> in which case - lose the signal
[17:44:48] <Leebert> He's drawing a Star Trek analogy.
[17:45:02] * Leebert is leaving this meeting and demanding a raise
[17:45:24] <cmn32480> in # this jsut came across:
[17:45:27] <cmn32480> tama> chromas is assraped by null-terminated strings
[17:45:52] <cmn32480> poor chromas
[17:45:57] <cmn32480> he's worse off then leebert
[17:46:36] <janrinok> oh, I'm not so sure
[17:46:40] <cmn32480> yhe bots are hilarious sometimes
[17:53:52] <Leebert> Man, I really need to start an executive consulting firm. I'm good enough at talking for long periods of time without actually saying anything.
[17:55:56] <janrinok> pick something he said about 15 minutes ago and just ask him to clarify it
[17:56:53] <janrinok> at least you will be controlling it a bit :)
[17:58:38] <Leebert> I'm being quiet
[17:58:40] <cmn32480> leebert... I'll go in with you.... we'll make bucket of $$
[17:59:07] <Leebert> "We recommend using a BYOD responsive cloud with data loss prevention."
[17:59:51] <cmn32480> so... an internet connected service that is backed up?
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[18:04:36] <janrinok> the bullshit is deep and smelly with this one - makes note not to employ Gartner
[18:05:00] <janrinok> or is it your management person?
[18:20:32] <cmn32480> that call is costing leebert $456/nano-second
[18:20:44] <cmn32480> it si worse than calling Cisco without a contract
[18:33:37] <nick> BYOD is the future of cost saving and anything that does go wrong will be the employees fault
[18:33:55] <nick> preferably the lowest level employee available to blame
[18:34:13] <janrinok> yep, you can hear them washing their hands of any responsibility while taking your money for the advice
[18:36:58] <nick> i had an interesting conversation about a trade fair, used to be that the exhibitors would get a scanner device for the visitors who came to their booth
[18:37:05] <nick> so they could get all the contact details and such
[18:37:19] <nick> now, you can do all that yourself, BYOD and get the app.
[18:37:28] <nick> the app just happens to cost the same as hiring the scanners used to
[18:37:48] <janrinok> ker-ching!
[18:38:59] <nick> easy money if you have the right connections i guess
[18:39:29] <janrinok> that's what I lack - the right connections
[18:39:51] <cmn32480> yup. company I used to work for did that. and the barcodes on the ID badges are setup in sucha way that the app or the scanner that they give you can read them, but any standard barcode scanner gets some crap that you have to parse.
[18:40:20] <nick> sounds about right
[18:41:19] <janrinok> yes, but you could argue that was for 'security' reasons. You wouldn't want the bad guys (er, competitors) reading the tags, or anyone producing false ID badges
[18:42:15] <nick> i dont think you even need to argue that
[18:42:20] <nick> 'proprietary technology' is all you need to say
[18:42:29] * arti is greatly amused by leebert's meeting
[18:43:17] <nick> because closed source software, smoke and mirrors hardware and security by obscurity is apparently the most secure way to do things.
[18:43:34] <nick> or the best way, not even pretending to be secure most of the time
[18:43:37] <janrinok> I can hear your sarcasm from here
[18:43:41] <arti> Movie Composer James Horner Dies In Plane Crash
[18:43:52] <arti> D:
[18:43:56] <janrinok> Yes, that was on the news here about an hour ago
[18:44:12] <arti> this is why we need backups
[18:47:50] <paulej72> ~weather
[18:47:52] <exec> 03Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 89°F / 32°C, partly cloudy, wind SW at 11 mph, humidity 58% - Tuesday storm (62°F-91°F / 17°C-33°C), Wednesday sunny (61°F-85°F / 16°C-29°C), Thursday partly cloudy (65°F-84°F / 18°C-29°C), Friday scattered showers (61°F-79°F / 16°C-26°C)
[18:48:04] <arti> nice day, or warm day?
[18:48:23] <paulej72> too f'in hot and humid
[18:48:36] <paulej72> plus major thunderstorm expected
[18:48:37] <arti> ~weather 92626
[18:48:39] <exec> 03Costa Mesa, CA 92626, USA - currently 72°F / 22°C, partly cloudy, wind SW at 6 mph, humidity 68% - Tuesday sunny (64°F-78°F / 18°C-26°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (64°F-76°F / 18°C-24°C), Thursday partly cloudy (63°F-76°F / 17°C-24°C), Friday partly cloudy (63°F-75°F / 17°C-24°C)
[18:49:21] <arti> ~weather 91355
[18:49:22] <exec> 03Valencia, CA 91355, USA - currently 83°F / 28°C, partly cloudy, wind SW at 5 mph, humidity 23% - Tuesday sunny (61°F-92°F / 16°C-33°C), Wednesday sunny (62°F-94°F / 17°C-34°C), Thursday sunny (62°F-95°F / 17°C-35°C), Friday partly cloudy (61°F-93°F / 16°C-34°C)
[18:51:30] <arti> http://www.gfi.com
[18:51:34] <exec> └─ 13Most vulnerable operating systems and applications in 2014
[18:51:50] <paulej72> What the hey? that mcuh temp difference between two almost neighbors
[18:52:19] <arti> paule, last week monday it was ~ 30 degrees diff
[18:52:38] <arti> 104 valencia mid 70s costa mesa
[18:52:41] <paulej72> is LA blowing hot air to the north
[18:52:57] <arti> the air off the sea is usually nice
[18:53:13] <arti> the other location is high desert, up two mountain passes
[18:53:26] <arti> beautiful sunsets up there though
[18:55:04] <paulej72> I grew up in a small valley between to appilachian mountan ridges. I did not get normal sunsets as the hills got in the way :)
[18:55:50] <arti> i've got some awesome pictures, sky looks like its on fire
[18:58:38] <Alberto> sup arti
[18:58:47] <arti> hey alberto! how's it going!?
[18:58:59] <arti> i've missed your last couple visits, apologies
[18:59:10] <Alberto> no problem
[18:59:13] <Alberto> working as usual
[18:59:20] * Alberto is a slave of work!
[19:00:31] <arti> working on anything neato?
[19:01:04] <Alberto> na
[19:01:13] <Alberto> i just dropped most of my projects
[19:01:20] <Alberto> no time no money for free stuff
[19:01:25] <Alberto> just collaborating with a few as usual
[19:01:49] <arti> i understand, time is a precious commodity. i help out where i can but beer money is always nice
[19:01:56] * arti is battling a bug atm
[19:02:48] <arti> bio not software :)
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[19:22:12] <Alberto> bug?
[19:22:16] <Alberto> ClamAV!
[19:39:53] <mechanicjay> Jesus, people are stupid
[19:40:13] <paulej72> how stupid are they?
[19:40:14] <ciri> doing great here
[19:40:41] <mechanicjay> I"m chatting with a century link customer rep and it's pretty bad.
[19:40:49] <arti> isp?
[19:40:52] <mechanicjay> yep
[19:41:12] <mechanicjay> Me: "Hi I know gigabit fiber is coming to my neighborhood, can you tell me when it will be available?"
[19:41:15] <arti> have i answered all of your questions in a satisfactory manner?
[19:41:33] <mechanicjay> THem: "It's not currently available, but you're welcome to check back another time."
[19:42:08] <paulej72> meaning we can'g give you that information as it may make us look bad
[19:42:24] <mechanicjay> ME: "Yes, I know that, but there are signs in my neighborhood, and I spoke with a linesman yesterday who is running fiber for the service. All I'm asking is how long 3 months, 6 months, another year?"
[19:42:38] <arti> wonder if they've been sued for that
[19:42:55] <arti> i'd default to no if i'd been spanked for incorrect delivery dates
[19:42:57] <mechanicjay> Them: "We actually don't know until it's available"
[19:43:01] <paulej72> I am sorry if you are not on the current list your chances of getting on board are non-existant
[19:43:17] <mechanicjay> Me: "That's ridiculous, someone must know. Who?"
[19:43:22] <arti> "We'll have to pass the bill to find out whats in it."
[19:43:31] <mechanicjay> Them: "Let me transfer you to tech support"
[19:43:32] <mechanicjay> ??
[19:44:01] * cmn32480 thinks mechanicjay doesn't deal with ISP's regularly.
[19:44:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - E-Book Compensation System: Amazon Wants to Pay Authors Only for Pages That Have Been Read - http://sylnt.us - somebody-is-feeling-cheap
[19:44:14] <cmn32480> this is STANDARD mechanicjay
[19:44:29] <paulej72> they will not light it up as there is noone that wants it given by the numbers of pre-orders
[19:44:47] <cmn32480> round and round the mulberry bush the monkey chased the weasel
[19:45:01] <cmn32480> the monkey thought it was all in fun. POP goes the weasel
[19:45:11] <mechanicjay> paulej72: Idk, Century Link is doing a huge fiber rollout on the North end of Seattle, promoting it heavily and whatnot.
[19:45:32] <mechanicjay> cmn32480: I was used to dealing with Optimum Online back in Jersey -- they were pretty much a dream to deal with as a customer.
[19:45:49] <cmn32480> my parents had them too.
[19:45:58] <cmn32480> where in Jersey?
[19:46:07] <mechanicjay> They had great Internet service at a reasonable price and were always helpful.
[19:46:23] <cmn32480> I don't know that I ever heard Dad complain about them.
[19:46:28] <mechanicjay> Rockaway -- Morris County.
[19:46:58] <cmn32480> ahhh... Bridgewater - Somerset County
[19:48:51] <mechanicjay> nice!
[19:49:02] <mechanicjay> tech support guy gave me a <6 month timeframe
[19:50:13] <paulej72> only one person can sign up before they will oversaturate thier connection
[19:51:06] <mechanicjay> I'd hope it's at least a 10gb backbone -- they should be able to get a dozen or two folks hooked before they're over subscribed. ;)
[19:51:57] <paulej72> Find a map with CL's upper managers' homes and you'll find out who will be lit up first
[20:00:28] <mechanicjay> hot damn, it looks like I can upgrade my 3mb DSL to 5 mb DSL now!
[20:00:35] <arti> fek
[20:00:49] <arti> :/
[20:01:28] <mechanicjay> This is what happens when you refuse to give Comcast any money.
[20:01:49] * arti gives his money to the beast known as time warner
[20:10:27] <mechanicjay> I could have 100MB Comcast cable -- but then I'd feel like I'm ruining the internet
[20:11:16] <mechanicjay> https://sunlightfoundation.com
[20:11:21] <exec> └─ 13How telecoms and cable have dominated net neutrality lobbying - Sunlight Foundation Blog
[20:12:15] <arti> i've screwed around with dsl and crummy speeds long enough
[20:12:25] <arti> did my time
[20:12:49] <arti> i salute you :)
[21:04:26] <cmn32480> is it wrong for me to wait to book flights until they triple confirm when the customer has given me dates and a PO?
[21:04:55] <nick> cmn32480, not at all
[21:05:19] <nick> last time i did it based on 'double confirmation', it never happened and i couldnt get a refund from the hotel i booked
[21:05:41] <cmn32480> is it bad that my motivation is to increase the number of airline points I receive?
[21:06:17] <nick> dont see why it would be
[21:06:33] <cmn32480> ok. then my conscience is clear
[21:06:43] <cmn32480> thanks nick
[21:09:30] <nick> glad to help ;)
[21:13:20] <nick> http://www.epi.org
[21:15:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla is Finally Building an SUV — and They Want it to Appeal to Women - http://sylnt.us - how-many-cup-holders-does-it-have
[21:15:22] <cmn32480> not really surprised
[21:26:27] <nick> about tesla or the link i pasted?
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[22:17:51] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:17:52] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:17:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1456
[22:25:22] <paulej72> ++coffee++
[22:27:26] <paulej72> here com the rains again
[22:28:10] <arti> chocolate rain~
[22:29:15] <paulej72> tunderbolts and lightning very very frightning me
[22:32:27] <crutchy> galileo!
[22:34:00] <arti> yeah, you can be smote
[22:34:13] <arti> i think you should climb a tree with your favorite golf clubs
[22:34:25] <crutchy> i'll kill you until you die from it!
[22:34:42] <arti> sounds like you write dialog for tv
[22:35:26] <crutchy> nah i'm just lacking coffee sustenance. i'm still on my first cuppa for the day
[22:35:34] <arti> get more ya bellend
[22:35:42] <crutchy> gotta go to workipoos
[22:35:55] <arti> you should consider a coffee enema
[22:36:02] <arti> all the kool kids are doing it
[22:36:11] <crutchy> i think i'd prever an IV
[22:36:14] <crutchy> drip
[22:36:24] <arti> just need a turkey baster
[22:36:28] <arti> go handstand against the wall
[22:36:35] <arti> your barista will be with you
[22:46:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Holographic Pyramid Creates a World on Your Table - http://sylnt.us - your-face-is-a-holograph
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[22:51:18] <OGLB> have a technical question about the discussions. Is there any limit to the size of a comment?
[22:51:54] <OGLB> I just posted an entire novel in a comment and successfully previewed, but chickened out on submitting due to copyright problems it might pose to the site.
[22:53:34] <arti> the site isn't responsible for user posts
[22:54:08] <OGLB> what about the size limit?
[22:54:21] <arti> i'd have to look at the database schema
[22:54:40] <arti> is it longer than an APK post?
[22:54:52] <OGLB> Dude, it's an actual novel.
[22:55:34] <JamesNZ> Why on earth would you post an entire novel? And I assume the copyright allows that?
[22:55:48] <OGLB> To see if I could :)
[22:55:51] <arti> link to pastebin ?
[22:55:59] <OGLB> local file.
[22:56:05] <OGLB> It's the novel Hannibal
[22:56:14] <OGLB> 256 pages.
[22:56:31] <JamesNZ> Pretty sure that's still copyrighted.
[22:56:44] * JamesNZ puts on his lawyer hat :D
[22:59:57] <OGLB> Oh well, I was just curious.
[23:00:13] <OGLB> AInt' gonna do it.
[23:00:38] <OGLB> Just wondering what would happen if somebody was able to paste like a 1000 page novel and submit it as a comment.
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[23:02:26] <paulej72> it would have gone in. comments are text blobs
[23:02:42] <paulej72> I may have had to delete it manually
[23:04:35] <arti> text type or blob type?
[23:05:02] <paulej72> text, but I am not 100% on that
[23:05:57] <arti> just curious :)
[23:06:00] <arti> no need to check
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[23:29:41] <Landon> project gutenberg is over thattaway
[23:29:48] <Landon> paste in the entire bible
[23:31:26] <JamesNZ> project_gutenberg++
[23:31:26] <Bender> karma - project_gutenberg: 1
[23:36:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I remember, back in the early 90s, downloading the entirety of Project Gutenberg via FTP
[23:37:42] <SpallsHurgenson> (well, not all of it since even back then they had multiple versions - different languages, different transcriptions - of the same book... but I did get all the books in glorious ASCII text files :)
[23:45:39] <SpallsHurgenson> I think it was a few hundred books at the time. I had to first FTP the files to my mainframe account (until I reached my disk-space quota) and then use Kermit to download the files to my PC.