#Soylent | Logs for 2015-06-05
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[00:00:01] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[00:00:20] <Ethanol-fueled> sup
[00:00:32] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm gonna take a nap now.
[00:00:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Peace!
[00:00:34] <BadCoderFinger> Hey EF, what's the rant of the week?
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[00:00:44] <BadCoderFinger> Well dang.
[00:01:12] <BadCoderFinger> I show up, people leave. And I remembered to bathe and everything.
[00:01:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I didn't!
[00:01:24] <SpallsHurgenson> leave, that is :)
[00:01:28] <kurenaitsubasa> lol
[00:03:43] <cmn32480> I don't think he bathed either <sniff> <sniff>
[00:03:56] <SpallsHurgenson> that's a healthy musk!
[00:04:00] <BadCoderFinger> Quick, get the Febreze...
[00:04:09] <cmn32480> adn the purell
[00:05:49] <cmn32480> crap speaking of bathing I gotta get my kids in the tub. back in a bit
[00:06:07] <cmn32480> spallshurgenson I hope your "goosebumps" go away
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[00:16:12] <chromas> earwigs-- # hiding out in the clean dishes, leaving little em dashes which are probably earwig pooplets
[00:16:12] <Bender> karma - earwigs: -1
[00:17:56] <SpallsHurgenson> umm...
[00:18:11] * SpallsHurgenson backs away slowly
[00:20:03] <chromas> — — —
[00:21:12] <SpallsHurgenson> and now a little bit faster...
[00:21:15] <BadCoderFinger> You can tell if they're pooplets by whether or not the earwigs are wearing pants.
[00:22:06] <chromas> !grab BadCoderFinger
[00:22:06] <Bender> Added quote 529
[00:24:15] * SpallsHurgenson sails the seas of the Skellige Isles, feeling a bit like Ged the archmage...
[00:24:32] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, I really didn't think that one was quoteworthy.
[00:24:41] <chromas> It will be
[00:25:21] <BadCoderFinger> I can't really imagine any other situation that might come up where that quote would be helpful or funny, but what the heck, it's your bot!
[00:25:45] * chromas points to xlefay
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[00:47:47] <BadCoderFinger> Natch, I got an "OK" error clicking on the "Read More" link under the "How the Tech Behind Bitcoin Could Stop the Next Snowden" story.
[00:48:30] <SpallsHurgenson> cannot reproduce, suggest user error to blame :)
[00:49:24] <SpallsHurgenson> "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
[00:50:00] <BadCoderFinger> Heh.
[00:50:16] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, works now.
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[00:52:45] <BadCoderFinger> Holy crap, I hate html mail.
[00:53:10] <SpallsHurgenson> why? its a great way to filter out the crap :)
[00:54:58] <BadCoderFinger> I got an email saying that I've bought something, and it's a mass of crappily formatted html.
[00:55:33] <SpallsHurgenson> just click the link and type in your password; I'm sure its legitimate :)
[00:55:39] <BadCoderFinger> And I haven't bought anything from these clowns.
[00:58:25] <SpallsHurgenson> they just need you to confirm your credit card number, so please type it in again on the provided website :)
[01:00:17] <cmn32480> free stuff!
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[01:28:09] * SpallsHurgenson rubs his hands through what remains of his hair; I think the haircut I got today was a bit short...
[01:32:43] <cmn32480> I quit getting haircuts
[01:33:06] <cmn32480> went bald instead
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[01:36:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't go bald; too many people depend on my good looks to carry them through the day :)
[01:41:16] <juggs> All these people pinging in and out reminds me I really need to complete that ZNC walkthrough wiki thing. Did I mention I hate wiki markup/down? I think I may once or twice. :/
[01:43:59] <SpallsHurgenson> assign that sort of stuff to bytram; that's what he's there for :)
[01:45:31] <juggs> Nooo - we need him flat out testing for bugs. The guy should market himself as ThoroughTesting Inc. :)
[01:51:02] <cmn32480> he is very good at what he does. apparently been doing it since I was in short pants
[01:53:51] <cmn32480> jfc - 24 hops from me to the front end
[01:54:06] <juggs> jfc?
[01:54:16] <cmn32480> jesus fucking christ
[01:55:49] <juggs> just for comparison?
[01:55:59] <cmn32480> or when I'm really agitated, it's jhfrc
[01:56:17] <juggs> what are you traceroute'ing to?
[01:56:18] <cmn32480> whcihc I picked up unintentionally form the outlander novels
[01:56:26] <cmn32480> soylentnews.org
[01:58:22] <SpallsHurgenson> 17 here... do I win a cookie?
[01:58:31] <juggs> 12 for me and I'm in the UK :P easynet > networklayer > linode with half the hops being on networklayer in the middle.
[01:59:06] <juggs> networklayer - that's a new name on me
[01:59:16] <cmn32480> I shoudla scrolled up further... I havbe 7 Request timed out in the middle
[01:59:40] <cmn32480> new to me too
[02:00:39] * juggs dons tinfoil hat
[02:01:38] <cmn32480> ooooo shiny!
[02:01:40] <juggs> Another buyout in telco land no doubt. Vicious market for that kind of thing.
[02:03:26] <cmn32480> yup... pretty soon it'll be jsut AT&T again... and they will be too big to fail
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[02:09:23] <juggs> Nah, this stuff has been going for decades. The 90s saw a bunch of hopefuls spring up running dark fibre hither and yonder hoping to cash in on traffic booming to fill their fibres, they were a little too early to the party and ended up distress selling. Those networks have been sold wholesale and piecemeal ever since. Nacamar was one such example.
[02:12:53] <cmn32480> now google is buying up all that dark fiber and making a laughing stock of the rest of the providers
[02:18:02] <juggs> Oooh - networklayer.com would appear to be associated to IBM Corp going by their whois. When did IBM get interested in infrastructure rather than servers?
[02:21:01] <juggs> Network Layer is a good name to use, the omnipresent google just serves OSI model pages for that query term
[02:28:33] <SpallsHurgenson> damn google for promoting facts over corporations!
[02:31:36] <juggs> I just find it odd to find an rDNS on multiple hops point to an Admin contact at IBM. Did IBM buy out Level3 or Tiscali or something?
[02:32:52] <cmn32480> NOt level 3 AFAIK
[02:33:40] <juggs> Maybe they already had their own network and have started peering and advertising routes more cheaply on BGP. Inter-networking is a mystery.
[02:36:19] <SpallsHurgenson> if in doubt, blame Microsoft
[02:36:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> SpallsHurgenson: unless it's obviously a network problem, then blame Level 3.
[02:37:25] <SpallsHurgenson> if you know its a network problem, you aren't in doubt :)
[02:37:30] <cmn32480> except in this case - blame AT&T
[02:37:30] <cmn32480> http://internetpulse.keynote.com
[02:44:18] <SpallsHurgenson> it always amuses me that the US government is putting more effort into stopping the next "Snowden" then, say, the next Bergersen or Shriver. Says something about their priorities, eh? :)
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[02:46:00] <cmn32480> God forbid they put some effrot into stopping somethign like the next Clinton
[02:46:09] <cmn32480> or the political corruption
[02:46:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I guess it indicates who they really consider the enemy... and who they fear
[02:48:38] <juggs> Follow the pay cheque :)
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[02:59:06] <cmn32480> ok gents. bed time for bonzo
[02:59:19] <SpallsHurgenson> g'night bonzo!
[03:02:03] <cmn32480> for jsut a second I thoguht you said bozo
[03:02:17] <SpallsHurgenson> g'night bozo!
[03:02:22] <cmn32480> night spallshurgenson
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[03:07:12] * juggs goes back to clearing up
[03:33:12] <NCommander> ugh
[03:33:15] <NCommander> the site is generating a bunch of 500s
[04:02:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How the Tech Behind Bitcoin Could Stop the Next Snowden - http://sylnt.us || Kim Dotcom Thwarts U.S. Asset Grab and More - http://sylnt.us - another-3-months... || Why Americans Loathe Cable Companies - http://sylnt.us - don't-watch-the-box
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[04:57:55] <Landon> woot
[04:57:58] <Landon> mailinabox configured
[04:57:58] <Landon> :)
[04:58:13] <Landon> https://discourse.mailinabox.email see here if you want to get it set up in a container
[04:58:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03System Status Pages shows Errors when Port Forward to Container - Mail-in-a-Box Users-Helping-Users
[05:02:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How You Can Track the FBI’s Spy Planes - http://sylnt.us - watch-the-watchers
[05:14:55] * Landon preorders that steam controller
[06:03:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The US Air Force Wants its New Hypersonic Aircraft Ready by 2023 - http://sylnt.us - Los-Angeles-to-Boston-in-less-than-an-hour
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[07:25:14] <crutchy> damn sql server borked :/
[07:34:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Releases Nuclear Power Assessment Study - http://sylnt.us - glowing-recommendations
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[07:46:40] <crutchy> http://www.usatoday.com
[07:46:41] <NetCraft> ^ 03Newly revealed NSA surveillance program draws support, ire
[07:46:59] <SirFinkus> oh boy, just in time to be outraged about something else
[07:47:12] <crutchy> 'we have to pass the bills to find out what's in them'
[07:47:53] <SirFinkus> oh, I figured that was happening anyway
[07:48:11] <SirFinkus> still outraged, but I've already been outraged about this
[07:48:40] <SirFinkus> the latest propoganda focus seems to be about ISIS in the united states
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[07:49:39] <crutchy> they'll have their own political party soon
[07:50:22] <SirFinkus> fuck it, why not?
[07:50:38] <crutchy> their logo will be a donkey and an elephant 69'ing
[07:52:47] <crutchy> http://www.theguardian.com
[07:52:48] <NetCraft> ^ 03Terror prosecutors want Edward Snowden's name banned from trial | US news | The Guardian
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[11:01:03] <Gravis> erm... am i the only one getting a whole lot of this lately? http://adaptivetime.com
[11:38:43] <CoolHand> Gravis: I think a lot of us have seen them
[11:39:09] <CoolHand> There were some other funkiness issues last night too.. they've been bouncing services to fix them and are continuing to investigate
[11:42:23] <Gravis> CoolHand: well it's great and i demand that nobody change it, ever! #ReversePsychology
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[12:08:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Female Libido Pill Considered by FDA Advisers - http://sylnt.us - just-getting-started
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[12:21:38] <Gravis> please make the comment filter smarter! if it encounters a filtered word, please make sure that said filtered word is NOT in the summary!
[12:22:25] <Gravis> "The drug has long been the focus of an intense debate. The company and some advocacy groups, including the National Organization for Women and Even the Score, have suggested that the FDA is being sexist by holding the drug to a higher standard than drugs, such as Viagra and Cialis, for male sexual problems." <-- part of the summary but prevents my comment from getting posted
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[13:39:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - TSA Tests Consistently Evade Own Airport Screenings - http://sylnt.us - please-walk-through-the-naked-machine
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[13:44:57] <janrinok> hi guys
[13:44:58] <ciri> hello janrinok
[13:57:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> hi janrinok
[13:57:14] <ciri> hi there AndyTheAbsurd
[13:57:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> hi ciri you absolute idiot.
[13:57:30] <janrinok> hi AndyTheAbsurd
[13:57:31] <ciri> speak of the devil janrinok
[14:00:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> So someone using the nick "Gravis" dropped a complaint here about the comment filter not being smart enough to remove words that are in the summary from the "banned words" list.
[14:01:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> ....do we have a bug for this already? And if we don't and I added one, would it get marked as WONTFIX?
[14:01:35] <janrinok> Yeah, I've noticed a few posts from him, but I haven't been taking too much attention to what he has been saying.
[14:02:12] <janrinok> But I haven't seen that one - what words does he say should be banned?
[14:02:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> he's not saying that anything SHOULD be banned. He's saying that if a word is banned, but appears in the summary, it should be un-banned for that article.
[14:03:09] <janrinok> well how the hell would the software know that?
[14:03:36] <janrinok> if it is in blockquotes maybe let it pass, but not if it is put in their by a rogue submitter
[14:03:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> Specifically, he was saying that he wanted to quote a section of the summary that had "Viagra" in it on the "Female Libido Pill" story.
[14:04:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> So...you're saying that it would get marked WONTFIX and I should waste my time entering it?
[14:05:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/should/shouldn't/
[14:05:12] <sedctl> <AndyTheAbsurd> So...you're saying that it would get marked WONTFIX and I shouldn't waste my time entering it?
[14:05:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> thanks sedctl.
[14:07:45] <janrinok> well, that raises several points. Presumably he has tried it? And it doesn't look like it should be banned but, as you know, it appears in SPAM all over the place. If we start playing with that filter all hell could be let loose. But that doesn't mean a bug report can't be submitted and let dev tell us the cost of implementing it.
[14:09:59] <janrinok> I've read the comment now - seems valid but I can also see the problems with letting it through.
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[15:10:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The DARPA Robotics Challenge This Weekend (6th & 7th June) - http://sylnt.us - too-late-for-Nepal
[15:11:29] <takyon> wow that's morbid
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[16:23:12] <mechanicjay> testing testing
[16:23:16] <mechanicjay> is this thing on?
[16:23:18] <cmn32480> 1 2 3
[16:23:34] <mechanicjay> excellent
[16:23:49] <mechanicjay> getting strange behavior from pidign on F22 -- acts like there's no network sometimes.
[16:24:00] <cmn32480> what's the good word mechanicjay?
[16:24:25] <cmn32480> <blink> <blink>
[16:24:30] <mechanicjay> coffee
[16:24:39] <mechanicjay> coffee would be a good word for the moment.
[16:24:42] <cmn32480> coffee++
[16:24:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1403
[16:24:46] <mechanicjay> coffee++
[16:24:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1404
[16:24:56] <cmn32480> I just got a fresh cup actually
[16:25:04] <cmn32480> it is delightful
[16:26:11] <mechanicjay> Our Dept chair supplied free donuts in about 5 minutes -- I'm holding off on a cup till then
[16:27:33] <cmn32480> ooooooooo
[16:27:35] <cmn32480> yummy
[16:27:47] <cmn32480> sounds like academia
[16:27:53] <mechanicjay> indeed!
[16:28:36] <cmn32480> I've noticed that dept. chair is only used in academia and healthcare. and healthcare is often a part of academia (teaching hospitals)
[16:29:02] <cmn32480> I get a gold star to take home. Woo Hoo!
[16:29:24] <mechanicjay> :) Indeed, University of Washington
[16:29:33] <mechanicjay> Computer Science & Engineering
[16:30:28] <cmn32480> that would explain donuts at my lunchtime.
[16:30:50] <cmn32480> as a side note, both are programs I failed out of. :-)
[16:31:07] <cmn32480> not at UW, but at U Delaware
[16:32:04] <mechanicjay> I eeked through my CS degree when the department I was in was going through a rough patch and the program was in shambles. I think a zombie could have made it through.
[16:32:42] <cmn32480> A zombie could have made it... I might have had a half a chance!
[16:32:43] <mechanicjay> this of course did *NOT* serve me well right out of school, but is mostly irrelevant at this point.
[16:32:58] <mechanicjay> oh shit
[16:33:00] <mechanicjay> donut time!
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[16:33:12] <cmn32480> RUN!
[16:34:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> If I know CS students, those donuts will not last long.
[16:34:44] <cmn32480> 30 seconds at most
[16:37:21] <CoolHand> cmn32480: did u ever make it home and get off the road?
[16:38:33] <cmn32480> hahahahahahahahahahahaha
[16:38:52] <cmn32480> you are freaking hilarious
[16:40:42] <CoolHand> sorry... I was hopeful
[16:41:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Batteriser is a $2.50 Gadget that Extends Disposable Battery Life - http://sylnt.us - coming-to-a-store-near-you-within-5-years
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[16:41:58] <mechincjay> undergrads not invited :)
[17:08:16] <CoolHand> Intel announced the first embedded quad-core 5th Gen Core CPUs and shipped its first “Braswell” processors... hehe, he said bra-swell... hehe :)
[17:09:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> CoolHand++ # for having a sense of humour just as juvenile as mine
[17:09:25] <Bender> karma - coolhand: 11
[17:18:03] <CoolHand> heh :)
[17:19:56] <mechincjay> Oh god
[17:20:07] <mechincjay> I just saw the Hillary for President Logo
[17:20:18] <janrinok|afk> and ?
[17:20:33] janrinok|afk is now known as janrinok
[17:20:33] <mechincjay> Some one just equated it to "looking like an airplane crashing into the twin towers"
[17:20:40] <janrinok> rofl
[17:20:40] <ciri> lol damn!
[17:20:43] <mechincjay> ...that's all I can see when I look at it.
[17:21:01] <janrinok> that will probably not help her much...
[17:22:20] <CoolHand> link?
[17:22:23] <mechincjay> http://assets-s3.usmagazine.com
[17:22:30] <CoolHand> dang that was quick..
[17:22:31] <CoolHand> :)
[17:22:43] <mechincjay> lol
[17:22:43] <ciri> now that is funny
[17:22:43] <CoolHand> faster than google
[17:22:59] <janrinok> fair point
[17:23:01] <mechincjay> the link was incoming even before you asked
[17:23:10] <CoolHand> I figgered :)
[17:23:36] <CoolHand> well, it's a stretch, and I wouldn't have thought it before it was mentioned, but now that I know I can see it... they should probably change it..
[17:24:16] <mechincjay> The comment was originally referencing this piece of clothing:
[17:24:18] <mechincjay> https://shop.hillaryclinton.com
[17:24:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Everyday Pantsuit Tee | Shop | Hillary for America Shop
[17:25:36] <CoolHand> yeah, I would soooo not buy one of those...
[17:25:53] * janrinok has just ordered 3 in Puce
[17:26:48] * janrinok discovers that, fortunately, they don't do that colour
[17:28:06] <mechincjay> As much as I'd like to opt out of the next election -- it'll be interesting to see what happens
[17:29:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> best-case scenario is that Bernie Sanders wins by a landslide.
[17:30:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> most likely is probably that we get Hillary Clinton as president and at least four more years of Republican obstructionism because the sitting president isn't a white male.
[17:30:40] <CoolHand> it is the most wide-open on both sides of the aisle that I can remember
[17:31:07] <mechincjay> I fear the most likely case
[17:31:36] <CoolHand> AndyTheAbsurd: I'd vote for Sanders..
[17:31:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> worst-case scenario is that some loony from the Republican side wins and we get an endless war in Iran to go with the ones in Iraq and Afghanistan.
[17:31:50] <mechincjay> Bernie is the ray of hope, because the Republicans have no real contenders -- and haven't for some time.
[17:32:21] <CoolHand> repub, I'd have to vote for Paul.. not my ideal choice, but the best I see over there
[17:34:49] <mechincjay> after spending a number of years as a republican...just no, that organization needs to die and something else take it's place.
[17:36:30] <CoolHand> yeah. I'm pretty much like that too.. But both parties need to do that... I'm just saying if one of the Repub candidates were to get it, I'd probably go with him. (and might go with him over any Democrat not named Sanders)
[17:36:41] <mechincjay> fair enough
[17:37:10] <CoolHand> if neither of them win primaries (probably won't), I'll probably just vote Libertarian..
[17:37:15] <CoolHand> again
[17:37:17] <CoolHand> :)
[17:37:40] <mechincjay> I see we have much in common CoolHand :)
[17:37:54] <CoolHand> I think a lot of soylentils do.. hehe
[17:38:53] <mechincjay> My voting following 2 rules. Vote 3rd party if you can. If there is not 3rd party, vote against the incumbent.
[17:38:53] <CoolHand> we're all a bunch of rebel ne'er-do-wells, right?
[17:39:15] <CoolHand> good rules :)
[17:39:33] <mechincjay> I prefer to thing of us as smart folks trying to effect change
[17:39:44] <CoolHand> oh, ya... that's what I meant.. :)
[17:39:44] <mechincjay> but it all depends on you point of view (and position of power)
[17:40:02] <CoolHand> exact-a-mundo!
[17:41:40] <cmn32480> I hate people.
[17:42:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> Sartre was correct: Hell is other people.
[17:42:46] <cmn32480> yes. especially the ones that don't listen when you tell them stuff.
[17:43:08] <janrinok> what did you say - I wasn't listening....?
[17:43:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> Which variety? The ones that you tell to pay attention, then tell them something, which they totally ignore; or the ones that ask you a question, then don't listen to the response?
[17:45:15] <CoolHand> oh, I especially hate the 2nd category
[17:45:29] * AndyTheAbsurd finds them both annoying and isn't sure which is worse
[17:45:31] <CoolHand> my wife is good at that.. or rather, asking me how to do it, then getting mad when I tell her.. :)
[17:46:02] * CoolHand wonders if that can be scrubbed from the logs.. :)
[17:46:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> actually, I know what's worst: People that ask you how to do something, and then ignore the bit that you point out as "the important part".
[17:47:06] <CoolHand> yah
[18:08:04] <cmn32480> Both types. especialyl the ones who are both.
[18:12:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Steam Machines, Link, and Controller to be Released November 10th - http://sylnt.us - been-waiting-patiently
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[21:12:12] <foosis> Not sure where to ask, but maybe people here know: what happened to pipedot.org?
[21:12:46] <chromas> It's working for me
[21:13:05] <foosis> hmm
[21:13:59] <foosis> OK, nevermind, works from phone... net config screwed
[21:14:04] <foosis> Have a nice day!
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[21:14:14] <chromas> You too
[21:14:21] <chromas> oh, then I take that back >:)
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[22:36:07] * SirFinkus fucking hates printers
[22:36:24] <SirFinkus> scanners too
[22:37:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> As far as I'm concerned, the only good printer is an HP LaserJet.
[22:37:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> And those only BARELY qualify.
[22:37:39] <SirFinkus> I'm battling with a canon pixma
[22:37:47] <SirFinkus> refuses to scan
[22:39:36] <SirFinkus> I've gotten it to make noises
[22:40:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> heh
[22:40:34] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, I've concluded that there's no such thing as a good scanner.
[22:41:23] <SirFinkus> I've used an ok one
[22:41:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> best you can hope for is to work for someplace that's got one of those fancy print/copy/fax/scan-to-email jobs and the service contract to go with it.
[22:41:27] <SirFinkus> big one
[22:41:33] <SirFinkus> one of those
[22:43:24] <SirFinkus> I can't be this retarded
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[22:49:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Sup fooz
[22:50:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> hi Ethanol-fueled
[22:50:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> SirFinkus is bitching about scanners.
[22:50:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> And I'm catching up on reading items out of my RSS feed.
[22:51:00] <Ethanol-fueled> what kind of scanners?
[22:51:03] <SirFinkus> I'm going to take a video to make sure I'm not retarded
[22:51:09] <SirFinkus> a canon pixma
[22:51:10] <SirFinkus> pos
[22:51:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, they probably put self-destruct mechanisms in the firmware.
[22:51:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Welp, it's shortly after the warranty period! Time to buy another!
[22:54:41] <Ethanol-fueled> I had a low-end HP all-in-one that just died straight up for no apparent reason.
[22:54:42] <SirFinkus> it's super retarded
[22:54:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, is it playing nice with the CUPS?
[22:55:24] <SirFinkus> oh, Ethanol-fueled, want to see a video of a bunch of white people trying to sing in a Jamaican accent about nature?
[22:55:30] <SirFinkus> it's a proper trainwreck
[22:55:41] <Ethanol-fueled> no Finkus. Not unless violence and racial slurs are involved.
[22:55:43] <Ethanol-fueled> and blackface.
[22:56:49] <SirFinkus> well, some whales get fucked up
[22:56:51] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm pretty pissed about it, actually. Remember how I told you all that I had to do some nonprofit work for my school? Well, I suggested a place that teaches tech and programming, and the instructors almost fucking verbatim told me that it had better be for multicultural and underserved kids.
[22:57:24] <Ethanol-fueled> They want me working in some fucking ghetto full of cholos and Colgolian refugees.
[22:58:09] <takyon> do it. you need the cultural enrichment
[22:58:24] <Ethanol-fueled> makes me want to walk into my first assignment with a condescending chuckle, shaking my head, and telling them all, "half of you will probably die before you reach adulthood."
[22:58:53] <Ethanol-fueled> "the other half will be pregnant and on food stamps by sixteen. Why are you all even here again?"
[22:59:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd rather teach tards, tards do a lot of pretty funny shit.
[23:00:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I could shrink my head into my fat neck until I look like a potato then say, "Mokay cwafth weer gonna wurn abod dif today."
[23:01:01] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[23:01:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03OMNIA (Official) - Earth Warrior - YouTube
[23:04:00] <SirFinkus> I got it to work I think
[23:04:20] <SirFinkus> about 30 seconds per page
[23:05:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, if it is taking that long then you are printing full-color porn.
[23:05:45] <SirFinkus> no, just a pos scanner
[23:06:12] <SirFinkus> I haven't printed porn in a decade
[23:06:28] <Landon> forever burned by CRT xrays to the back of his eyelids
[23:06:45] <Landon> downside: only had room on his left eyelid to fit the guy
[23:07:14] <artificial> sirfinkus, printing porn?
[23:07:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, I caught fink printing a full-color sheet of naked grannies.
[23:07:53] <Landon> man
[23:07:55] <artificial> hahaha
[23:08:07] * artificial tucks this idea away as a future plugin for a botnet
[23:08:10] <Landon> I remember when one of the guys in high school got grounded for printing off a wallet size porn pic
[23:08:11] <Landon> xD
[23:08:26] <artificial> "as you can see it just distributes diffs so it's extremely efficient between nodes"
[23:08:50] <artificial> i was surprised to find smut still printed
[23:08:56] <artificial> wonder who buys it
[23:09:20] <Ethanol-fueled> artificial, probably military.
[23:09:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Joes and porn go together like pissin' and the wind.
[23:09:46] <artificial> i was thinking about that, and they've all got devices
[23:10:11] <artificial> portable electronics are king
[23:10:17] <SirFinkus> when I was a kid and didn't have my own computer
[23:10:29] <artificial> plus they usually are stationed in areas where locals bootleg stuff for crazy cheap
[23:11:02] <artificial> i came from an era where it was prized and rare
[23:11:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, when I was a kid, we had to WORK for our porn
[23:12:16] <Ethanol-fueled> namely, stealing it from sock drawers and the top shelves of closets.
[23:14:40] <SirFinkus> DAMN POS WONT SCAN AGAIN
[23:14:51] <SirFinkus> I got 2 pages out of it
[23:14:55] <SirFinkus> TWO
[23:15:01] <artificial> what about using mobile app to scan?
[23:15:12] <artificial> is this for faxing or what
[23:15:24] * artificial is jumping between a build server
[23:15:36] <Ethanol-fueled> take your granny porn to Staples, fink.
[23:15:41] <SirFinkus> a mobile app?
[23:15:46] <SirFinkus> no, this is my wang
[23:16:40] <SirFinkus> I can't scan my wang at staples
[23:17:33] <SirFinkus> well, I could, but I like the idea of not needing to inform all my neighbors when I move to a new place
[23:19:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Fink, if you're good-looking enough you can.
[23:19:48] <Ethanol-fueled> just bring it to the copy center and wink at the attendant.
[23:20:53] <SirFinkus> I actually looked up how much it would be at kinkos, and it would have been like $20
[23:21:27] <mechincjay> Is that a good price for a wang scan?
[23:22:12] <artificial> can you put a bowtie on it or something, that way it's art
[23:23:27] <Ethanol-fueled> or put some kind of filter on it.
[23:23:52] <Ethanol-fueled> tell 'em it's a species of anteater
[23:24:34] <SirFinkus> now it's applying some kind of weird text detection algo and spitting out individual files with for each letter
[23:24:38] <SirFinkus> I wish I was making this up
[23:25:03] <Ethanol-fueled> It's alive, and it wants more coque.
[23:25:31] <mechincjay> maybe you should dick-whip it into submission.
[23:25:33] <artificial> caulk
[23:25:55] <SirFinkus> the only possible use case for this "feature" I can think of is font piracy maybe
[23:26:16] <artificial> what are you scanning? money?
[23:27:30] <SirFinkus> My wang
[23:28:03] <SirFinkus> MOTHERFUCKER
[23:28:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Moose Wang
[23:30:27] <Landon> heh
[23:30:46] <Landon> great prank is to put the constellation pattern that designates money on a document that someone is trying to print/scan :)
[23:30:59] <Landon> http://en.wikipedia.org
[23:30:59] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: EURion constellation
[23:31:44] <SirFinkus> another great prank is to ask someone to scan literally anything
[23:32:00] <SirFinkus> because it's such a huge pita
[23:32:38] * artificial lifts up the lid, puts the document on the glass, closes the lid and hits scan
[23:32:46] <Landon> SirFinkus: actually
[23:32:50] <Landon> I have a document scanner now
[23:32:56] <Landon> it's pretty-fscking-sweet
[23:33:02] <Landon> never going to flatbed again
[23:33:10] <artificial> in a pinch i use my mobile phone
[23:33:14] <artificial> :D
[23:33:26] <artificial> maybe you're not lighting the candles in the right order
[23:33:34] <SirFinkus> "an error occurred while communicating with the scanner"
[23:33:39] <SirFinkus> gee, that's informative
[23:34:42] <SirFinkus> I thought this was going to take an hour
[23:34:44] <Landon> a better prank is to ask someone to fax something
[23:34:47] <SirFinkus> I'm on page 2
[23:34:58] <SirFinkus> that's a good one too Landon
[23:35:10] <SirFinkus> then you can claim that the fax was garbled and get them to do it again
[23:36:48] <SirFinkus> https://imgur.com
[23:36:49] <NetCraft> ^ 03- Album on Imgur
[23:36:53] <SirFinkus> this is the current output
[23:37:02] <SirFinkus> REAL FUCKING USEFUL
[23:37:17] <SirFinkus> I could spell "BOOB" though
[23:38:22] <mechincjay> thats the strangest way to spell "wang" I've ever seen.
[23:39:46] <Landon> holy crap
[23:39:51] <Landon> avast lit up like a christmas tree on forbes.com
[23:39:52] <Landon> :|
[23:40:05] <Landon> http://www.forbes.com
[23:40:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03Yes, I'm Colorblind About 'The Witcher 3,' And Yes, That's A Problem - Forbes
[23:40:12] <Landon> if anyone is willing to subject their computer
[23:40:59] <Landon> heh, reminds me of the mouse scanner
[23:41:19] <SirFinkus> WHY THE FUCK IS THIS NOT A SOLVED PROBLEM
[23:41:27] <SirFinkus> IT'S PRETTY FUCKING SIMPLE
[23:41:36] <SirFinkus> SCAN MY SHIT, SEND IMAGE OVER USB TO COMPUTER
[23:42:21] <Ethanol-fueled> https://soylentnews.org
[23:42:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by [02Ethanol-fueled (2792)] (02Score:1)
[23:42:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Tooting my own horn, but it's amazing what a difference that a comment from one person in the know can make.
[23:42:56] <SirFinkus> YES, PLEASE MAKE MORE RANDOM NOISES PRINTER
[23:43:03] <SirFinkus> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED
[23:43:07] <Landon> spent all week wrapping a command line tool
[23:43:12] <Ethanol-fueled> There is NO NEED for some super special ED drug just for women...the existing ones for men work just fine.
[23:43:17] <artificial> landon, what's it do?
[23:43:18] <Landon> at some point, had to ask myself "fuck, why am I going through all this work to be a value add"
[23:43:30] <Landon> artificial: are you familiar with IBM Rational?
[23:43:45] <artificial> no, i'm not
[23:43:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Landon, there's probably still a lot of low-hanging fruit in wrapping *nix command-line tools.
[23:44:05] <Landon> Ethanol-fueled: sure, but in this case, wrapping a closed source tool
[23:44:12] <artificial> is it like a build server?
[23:44:19] <Landon> which itself just makes REST calls to a looks-like-java interface on the webserver
[23:44:23] <Landon> too many levels of go fuck yourself
[23:44:26] * artificial is dinking around with jenkins
[23:44:35] <Landon> if I wanted to do it, I'd do it right, but they don't have enough documentation to do that period
[23:44:38] <artificial> having a hell of a time setting up a headless eclipse
[23:44:50] <Landon> artificial: it's an... ecosystem
[23:44:54] <Landon> but they have a source control component
[23:44:58] <Landon> that's basically whta I'm wrapping
[23:45:02] <Landon> so I can script it
[23:45:08] <artificial> ah cool, does it do validation, too?
[23:45:15] <Landon> someone a few versions back had the foresight to allow json output for some subcommands
[23:45:17] <Landon> validation, as in?
[23:45:48] <artificial> does it blindly send crap to the console and assume it worked?
[23:46:01] <Landon> the cli tool or my wrapper?
[23:46:07] <artificial> your wrapper
[23:46:11] <Landon> yes
[23:46:17] <Landon> I attempt as much as possible
[23:46:24] <Landon> but they don't document results of commands
[23:46:30] <artificial> joy
[23:46:35] <Landon> so it's a lot of trial and error and I doubt I've hit any but the most obvious edge cases
[23:46:45] <artificial> how aws eb deploy works is secret sauce under the hood
[23:46:45] <ciri> you talking to me?
[23:46:48] <Landon> I'll be honest, they have some not-bad ideas about source control
[23:46:57] <Landon> but their tools are
[23:46:57] <Landon> ugh
[23:47:11] <Landon> round trip to server and through java until eclipse shows you a useless message
[23:47:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Billboard Advertising Contraband Hides When it Recognizes Cops - http://sylnt.us - now-you-see-it
[23:47:19] <Landon> I've never seen a tool more centralized in my life
[23:47:23] * artificial uses myeclipse for teh javas
[23:47:29] <Landon> I swear some right click context menus have to go to the srever
[23:48:07] <Landon> but, there's no chance this can be open sourced and it's just a wrapper to a wrapper
[23:48:25] <Landon> waste of a week, but there's probably no faster way I could have scripted our build :|
[23:48:41] <Landon> doing the wrapper allowed me to repeatedly test my assumptions against a suite of tests
[23:49:20] <Landon> some other fun shit, like some operations that return an object id will also return information
[23:49:28] <Landon> which is ok by me, less querying to do
[23:49:43] <Landon> except, when I create _SOME_ types, I get more information on create than I can extract anywhere else in the system
[23:49:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Landon, do you work with AIX?
[23:49:46] <artificial> just curious, as long as it works that's the important thing
[23:50:02] <Landon> even the dedicated "Find me the object with ID 123" won't give me the fscking description/comment attribute
[23:50:08] <Landon> Ethanol-fueled: nope
[23:50:12] <Landon> this is their enterprise shit
[23:50:31] <Landon> anyways
[23:50:45] <Landon> their internet fandom (of employees/contractors) is atrocious
[23:50:47] <Landon> https://jazzpractices.wordpress.com for example
[23:50:48] <NetCraft> ^ 03Git Outta Here | JazzPractices
[23:50:53] * artificial misread that
[23:51:00] <Landon> don't forget to check the comments if you want a real rager
[23:52:44] <artificial> git has a learning curve but it isn't crazy
[23:52:58] <artificial> you don't need to master all of it, you'll be using a small subset of it for most of your work
[23:53:11] <artificial> checkout, pull, and merge
[23:53:19] <artificial> oh and commit and push
[23:55:17] <Landon> s/checkout/clone/
[23:55:23] <Landon> and I don't think you even need merge
[23:55:38] <Landon> clone, pull, commit, push serve 99% of your daily dev needs
[23:55:50] <Landon> I was actually hoping to spin this into a backend for git
[23:56:00] <Landon> push, then an update hook will translate it into rtc-speak
[23:56:11] <Landon> the models are too fundamentally differnet though, I don't think I can do it
[23:56:20] <Landon> that + what I can do with the command line
[23:57:08] <Landon> actually, not fundamentally different
[23:57:14] <Landon> RTC still has changesets built on top of other changests
[23:57:20] <Landon> they just don't tell you the relation ;)
[23:57:26] <Landon> you can't iterate the tree
[23:57:46] <Landon> the solution is to baseline (tag) components so that you have all changesets defined for the baseline
[23:57:48] <Landon> :rolleyes"