#Soylent | Logs for 2015-06-03
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[00:03:06] <NCommander> paulej72, I haven't got the foggiest
[00:03:11] <NCommander> paulej72, is helium paging out?
[00:03:39] <paulej72> no
[00:03:46] * NCommander tries to gear up to build a new dev VM for TheMightyBuzzard and others
[00:06:48] * NCommander is trying to figure out what next to do on the SN todo list
[00:07:04] <NCommander> paulej72, I'd like to get HTTPS by default but I need to figure out how to get the tor backend to ignore that
[00:08:00] <NCommander> paulej72, is both hydrogen and fluorine back up?
[00:08:51] <paulej72> hydrogen is up, but not in rotation due to some issues I am tring to work out
[00:08:58] <SirFinkus> https://twitter.com
[00:08:58] <pants--> ^ 03riothurl on Twitter: "Stay safe. #Olympia #DefendOly #OlympiaShooting http://t.co"
[00:09:02] * SirFinkus rolls eyes
[00:09:12] <SirFinkus> a LITTLE dramatic
[00:10:12] <paulej72> NCommander: I am not sure if my.cfn is set for mysql on helium
[00:11:31] <NCommander> paulej72, well, I'd like to upgrade neon to Ubuntu 14.04, and get other updates installed.
[00:13:46] <paulej72> NCommander: should not be a problem if cluster is working proerly
[00:18:58] <NCommander> paulej72, it is
[00:19:04] <NCommander> I restarted helium's ndbd cluster earlier today
[00:19:49] <NCommander> paulej72, ugh, ndbd OOMed on helim
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[00:27:53] <NCommander> oh shit
[00:28:05] <cmn32480> funny I was thinking the same thign NCommander
[00:28:11] <NCommander> The database just ejected its brain
[00:28:38] <cmn32480> probably my fault. I tried to reply to a comment
[00:29:33] <NCommander> Cluster is recovering
[00:30:06] <mythterj> Still seeing 503 from here...
[00:30:14] <cmn32480> we just went 503
[00:31:35] <NCommander> Startup time from a cold startup is very slow
[00:31:40] <paulej72> NCommander: whats are status
[00:31:51] <NCommander> paulej72, neon's ndbd instance is still starting
[00:32:19] <NCommander> node 3 is back up
[00:32:31] <NCommander> Site is back
[00:32:32] <paulej72> did you take down neon then helium whent tits up?
[00:32:48] <NCommander> paulej72, no, I restarted helium and neon went tits up
[00:32:50] <NCommander> I want a real database
[00:33:11] <NCommander> paulej72, on the plus side, SN came back automatically when the database fired up; that's an improvement :)
[00:33:14] <cmn32480> site is still at 503
[00:33:25] <paulej72> try a reload cmn32480
[00:33:35] <cmn32480> I did, ctrl F
[00:33:38] <cmn32480> 5
[00:33:40] <mythterj> It works on http, still 503 on https
[00:33:55] <NCommander> Load balancer doesn't appear to have noticed the site came back
[00:34:08] <cmn32480> thanks mytherj... I get same results
[00:34:25] <NCommander> Working on it
[00:34:30] <paulej72> I see the site
[00:34:34] <NCommander> paulej72, http only
[00:36:35] <NCommander> mythterj, cmn32480 we're nback
[00:36:49] <mythterj> Yup...
[00:37:11] <cmn32480> yes. What went ass over tea kettle?
[00:37:34] <NCommander> cmn32480, the database cluster. I went to start helium's database node, and neon's went tit up
[00:38:00] <cmn32480> grumble grumble fucking tinkertoys grumble
[00:38:11] <paulej72> NCommander: why was helium's down oom?
[00:39:05] <NCommander> paulej72, ndbd out of memoried -_-;
[00:39:08] <paulej72> NCommander: if that is the case we may need to tune shit to save memory
[00:39:23] <NCommander> paulej72, I dropped the size of the disk cache to 128 M
[00:39:38] <NCommander> paulej72, I think we need to add a swap file to helium to prevent the world from abandoning its brain
[00:39:55] <paulej72> helium has swap
[00:40:31] <paulej72> we are just trying to do too much with everyting in only 4GB of memeory
[00:41:13] <paulej72> root@helium:/opt/mysql# free
[00:41:13] <paulej72> total used free shared buffers cached
[00:41:13] <paulej72> Mem: 4097516 4069552 27964 8032 3860 31008
[00:41:13] <paulej72> -/+ buffers/cache: 4034684 62832
[00:41:13] <paulej72> Swap: 524284 372340 151944
[00:42:06] <paulej72> slash@neon:~/db_dumps$ free
[00:42:06] <paulej72> total used free shared buffers cached
[00:42:06] <paulej72> Mem: 4099164 4077968 21196 0 64860 279640
[00:42:06] <paulej72> -/+ buffers/cache: 3733468 365696
[00:42:06] <paulej72> Swap: 524284 82588 441696
[00:44:04] <NCommander> paulej72, more swap!
[00:44:32] <paulej72> that is pain in the ass
[00:44:50] <NCommander> dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile; mkswap /swapfile; swapon /swapfile is hard?
[00:45:29] <paulej72> well if we are making a file then it is not
[00:45:55] <paulej72> talking about a swap partition
[00:45:57] <NCommander> :)
[00:46:13] <NCommander> paulej72, its mostly to handle spikes so instead of OOMing, we page shit out
[00:47:49] <NCommander> I'm hestiant to upgrade neon now
[00:47:54] <NCommander> In case ndbd takes a dive again
[00:48:53] <NCommander> paulej72, swapfile added to helium
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[01:18:09] * SirFinkus beers the staff
[01:18:25] <cmn32480> WOO HOO!
[01:18:36] <SirFinkus> 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
[01:18:58] <cmn32480> boxes w/ 4 squares.. how kind of you. maybe I'll build a fort
[01:19:15] <SirFinkus> you don't have a font with the beer emoji
[01:19:35] <cmn32480> sigh... what font do I need to install now?
[01:19:48] * SirFinkus wishes they'd finish BTP already
[01:19:52] <SirFinkus> os?
[01:20:05] <cmn32480> Windows of course
[01:20:12] <SirFinkus> 7?
[01:20:14] <cmn32480> Win 7
[01:20:29] <cmn32480> I was at a customer site today still running Win 2000 Server
[01:20:30] <SirFinkus> yeah, I think the emoji don't happen until windows 8
[01:20:41] <cmn32480> oh well.. fort building it is!
[01:20:51] <SirFinkus> at my old job (around 4 years ago) we were running 98 se
[01:21:45] <SirFinkus> anyway, here you go cmn32480 http://i.imgur.com
[01:21:47] <cmn32480> ZOINKS!
[01:22:01] <cmn32480> ooooo pretty
[01:22:36] <SirFinkus> the best feature of brew is the beer emoji when you finish installing something
[01:23:53] <cmn32480> hehe
[01:24:11] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:24:19] <SirFinkus> does your package manager have beer?
[01:24:47] <cmn32480> if you mean my refrigerator... yes
[01:26:27] <cmn32480> wtf... somethign jsut dinged. and I have no idea which device it was
[01:27:55] <SirFinkus> uh oh
[01:28:23] <SirFinkus> I have a song that has a my exact "new email" sound effect in it
[01:28:27] <SirFinkus> I check it every time
[01:28:39] <cmn32480> nice
[01:29:55] <SirFinkus> When I'm a rock star, I'll include such sounds in my albums
[01:31:43] <cmn32480> hmmm... I wonder if I can upgrade to vsphere 6 without actual physical access to the box....
[01:34:45] <paulej72> cmn32480: how lucky do you feel?
[01:35:11] <cmn32480> I'm feeling lucky. Punk.
[01:35:24] <cmn32480> sorry... I couldn't help myself
[01:36:29] <cmn32480> you have an idea paulej72?
[01:37:22] <poutine> dis my house http://testuser:testing@home.smarthomesoft.com:5515
[01:39:53] <cmn32480> damnit... there's that ding again....
[01:42:59] <cmn32480> I jsut figured out how to do it paulej72. My iDrac Card has the ability to mount an ISO. That should allow me to be on the remote console and do the upgrade. And if it goes pear shaped, oh well. I'll be in the office tomorrow to fix it.
[01:50:35] <poutine> someone turned on some shit
[02:01:22] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[02:01:27] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[02:01:32] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[02:01:37] <Bytram> ~uid
[02:01:41] <Bytram> !uid
[02:01:42] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5352, owned by Osc
[02:04:55] <paulej72> exec died sometime today
[02:05:31] * Bytram tosses a bouquet of flowers
[02:06:30] * cmn32480 cocks his gun for the next bullet
[02:06:37] <NCommander> Is it just me, or has the site started to lag again
[02:06:49] <paulej72> check the lag log
[02:08:12] <SirFinkus> works on my machine™
[02:08:14] <Bytram> paulej72: lag log? Is that in the admin panel, or something that needs to be run directly on the vm?
[02:08:33] <Bytram> IOW, is that something I can see, and if so, how do I get there?
[02:09:58] <paulej72> Bytram: NCommander setup logging of slow queries on mysql
[02:10:31] <paulej72> or new db engine is a dog give some specific types of queries
[02:11:10] <Bytram> nod nod; I saw the post/comment/whatever about O(n*m) ==> O(1)
[02:11:12] <Bytram> !woop
[02:11:12] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[02:11:44] <paulej72> NCommander: nexii seem to be a bit slower than the mainpage. I think the slow queries will show that the some of the nexus queries are issues
[02:12:03] <Bytram> you've got one honking big pile of code that just had the rug pulled out from under it... you're doing one hell of a job fixing the plane while it's still in flight!
[02:12:24] * Bytram just mixed metaphots, badly, and is quite all right with it.
[02:12:28] <paulej72> cheking topic and and primary in an or statement is dog slow
[02:12:30] <Bytram> s/phots/phors/
[02:12:30] <sedctl> <Bytram> just mixed metaphors, badly, and is quite all right with it.
[02:12:50] <cmn32480> the rest of us will keep flapping our arms to keep it n the air. No worries.
[02:12:54] <paulej72> Bytram: can you see if normal utf8 is working ok if you have not
[02:13:17] <Bytram> cmn32480: ROFL!
[02:13:43] <NCommander> paulej72, well it was very fast then it got slower
[02:13:44] <paulej72> if everyone jumps up at the same time, we can keep the plane up longer
[02:14:05] <Bytram> Bytram: have't tried it on prod... site story? site comment? journal story? journal comment?
[02:14:26] * Bytram waits for 'all of the above'
[02:14:45] <paulej72> jornal should be fine. if the db is not connedting right ti will fail
[02:15:17] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:15:57] * Bytram needs to test utf-8 on prod... biab
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[02:18:50] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 47°F / 8°C, cloudy, wind NE at 4 mph, humidity 92% - Tuesday cloudy (46°F-51°F / 8°C-11°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (47°F-59°F / 8°C-15°C), Thursday partly cloudy (52°F-64°F / 11°C-18°C), Friday showers (56°F-66°F / 13°C-19°C)
[02:19:17] <paulej72> lol exec
[02:19:18] <ciri> rofl
[02:19:49] * Bytram clicks preview
[02:21:21] <cmn32480> looks like my upgrade to vsphere 6 is gonna work
[02:21:39] * cmn32480 sighs in relief
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[02:22:58] <Bytram> paulej72: how's this look to you? http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:58] <pants--> ^ 03SN journal testing some utf-8 encoded unicode chars after rehash loaded 04(0 comments)
[02:25:25] <paulej72> Bytram: the last two blocks are all unknown chars
[02:25:30] <Bytram> I see one replacement char at the end of the line starting with 'pqrstuv', as well as 'numbered boxes' for: U+070e u+082f u+082e and u+083f
[02:25:52] <Bytram> the rest of the chars all have 'glyphs' for them, from my perspective.
[02:26:05] <Bytram> I'm using some gnu font... lemme check
[02:26:10] <cmn32480> I see squares for only the last block
[02:26:26] <paulej72> I must not have the correct fonts installed
[02:26:31] <Bytram> I'm using: 'Unifont CSUR'
[02:26:42] <cmn32480> and one character in the third block.
[02:27:45] <Bytram> FYI: this line in the comment: peugen 0x40 0x7f 0x0140 0x017f 0x0700 0x073f 0x0800 0x083f
[02:28:27] <Bytram> means to generate percent-encoded unicode chars for 0x40 through 0x7f, and then for 0x0140 through 0x017f, etc.
[02:29:32] <Bytram> so, the very first line output from that is:
[02:29:34] <Bytram> %u0040%u0041%u0042%u0043%u0044%u0045%u0046%u0047%u0048%u0049%u004a%u004b%u004c%u004d%u004e%u004f
[02:30:16] <Bytram> the other tool, peu2utf-8 encodes those unicode code points as UTF-8 strings.
[02:30:36] <Bytram> so, that translates it to become:
[02:30:37] <Bytram> @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO
[02:30:57] <cmn32480> PQRSTUVWXY AND z
[02:31:34] <Bytram> well done... tell me you were not humming or singing along while you did that!
[02:31:53] <Bytram> the 'AND' was a giveaway!
[02:32:13] <Bytram> afk back in about 5 minutes or so
[02:32:32] <cmn32480> I totally was. I have kids that are still learning their alphabet.
[02:38:06] <paulej72> well the last block is working for me now, but the third block is still blocky
[02:43:36] <Bytram> back
[02:43:52] <Bytram> a blocky block... hmmm
[02:43:53] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[02:43:54] <pants--> ^ 03Cinemark theater chain receives Justice Department query - MarketWatch
[02:44:07] <takyon> you need unicode
[02:44:09] <takyon> I got unicode
[02:45:49] * Bytram wonders if it is 'catchy' and seeks out some garlic, just in case.
[02:46:00] <Bytram> nograb
[02:46:19] <cmn32480> better to catch unicode than the clap
[02:50:06] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:50:47] <Bytram> paulej72: meet me in #qa for some cut-n-paste action
[03:20:09] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[03:20:10] <pants--> ^ 03[done] AMD Launching First GPU With HBM Memory At E3, On June 16
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[06:05:54] <artificial> http://imgur.com
[06:05:55] <pants--> ^ 03Girl pranks her boyfriend by telling him she's pregnant. It backfires horribly. - GIF on Imgur
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[07:12:54] <crutchy> ah oh
[07:13:09] <crutchy> chromas has died
[07:13:31] <crutchy> !grab Bytram
[07:13:31] <Bender> Added quote 528
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[08:02:09] <crutchy> http://www.liveleak.com
[08:02:22] <crutchy> ~title on
[08:02:23] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
[08:02:28] <crutchy> http://www.liveleak.com
[08:02:50] <crutchy> stupid bot
[08:07:19] <crutchy> http://www.liveleak.com
[08:07:22] <exec> └─ 13LiveLeak.com - Possible tactical nuke(neutron bomb) strike in Yemen?(Better quality/closer view)
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[09:25:26] <crutchy> ~title off
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[11:23:03] <crutchy> haha
[11:23:07] <crutchy> ~title on
[11:23:09] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
[11:23:22] <crutchy> http://www.theaustralian.com.au
[11:23:27] <exec> └─ 13Australian sharemarket closes near four-month low | The Australian
[11:23:34] <crutchy> beat that fucker
[11:23:42] <crutchy> $title http://www.theaustralian.com.au
[11:23:43] <aqu4> ^ "3Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian"
[11:23:47] <exec> └─ 13Australian sharemarket closes near four-month low | The Australian
[11:23:57] <crutchy> ~title off
[11:23:58] <exec> titles disabled for 10#Soylent
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[11:32:35] <crutchy> wb dude
[11:34:34] <chromas> dunno why after connecting, quassel always jacks it a bit before it sends message
[11:35:40] * chromas moved the core to another box; importing took forever. Then I tried using COPY-based backup. Much less retardedly slow
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[12:21:25] <LoRdTAW> Anyone notice that the comment couint for every article is 0? I even checked on other OS and browsers.
[12:26:28] <crutchy> yeah
[12:26:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> LoRdTAW: I see 32 comments for the "Breaking News: Senate Passes USA Freedom Act" story.
[12:26:37] <crutchy> though the mit story has 4
[12:26:48] <crutchy> (on the main index page)
[12:26:55] <crutchy> s/index/home/
[12:26:55] <sedctl> <crutchy> (on the main home page)
[12:26:55] <sedctl> <crutchy> (on the main home page)
[12:27:13] <crutchy> derp
[12:27:18] <crutchy> bad sedctl
[12:27:21] <crutchy> :p
[12:35:11] <crutchy> LoRdTAW, https://github.com
[12:37:34] <crutchy> ~link github/issues/rehash https://github.com
[12:37:36] <exec> └─ github/issues/rehash => https://github.com
[12:38:07] <crutchy> ~link github/issues/slashcode https://github.com
[12:38:08] <exec> └─ github/issues/slashcode => https://github.com
[12:38:15] <crutchy> ~link issues
[12:38:16] <exec> ├─ github/issues/rehash => https://github.com
[12:38:16] <exec> └─ github/issues/slashcode => https://github.com
[12:44:57] <crutchy> http://www.techradar.com
[12:52:56] <LoRdTAW> Interesting, glad someone else caught it.
[13:01:46] <paulej72> comment counts will update in the next 10 minutes, slashd needed to be started
[13:32:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Proposed Rule Change to Expand Feds’ Legal Hacking Powers Moves Forward - http://sylnt.us - bit-by-bit-by-bit || A Perfect ACT Score Couldn't Get this Student into Yale, Princeton, or Stanford - http://sylnt.us - but-he-can't-tap-dance! || AI Supercomputer Built by Tapping Data Warehouses for Their Idle Computing Power - http://sylnt.us - 2 more
[15:03:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Sheinwald Report Urges Treaty Forcing US Web Firms' Cooperation in Data Sharing - http://sylnt.us - everyone-is-doing-it
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[16:04:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 74 Small Exoplanets With Circular Orbits Identified - http://sylnt.us - getting-around
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[17:41:43] <janrinok> hi guys
[17:41:44] <ciri> excellent janrinok
[17:46:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> hi janrinok
[17:47:24] <janrinok> AndyTheAbsurd: hello to you - things are good?
[18:05:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> yup
[18:05:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> Today is first day as a salaried full-time employee at Times Publishing Company. (I was a contractor before.)
[18:06:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Is It a Crime for Dennis Hastert to Evade Government Scrutiny? - http://sylnt.us - criminal-class
[18:06:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> It's kind of neat being able to say "yeah, I did some work for Politifact.com"
[18:06:26] <janrinok> congrats - I hope it goes well
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[19:06:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - F-35B Operational Test Trials - http://sylnt.us - cool-new-toys
[20:16:00] * paulej72 is patiently awaiting 120 Windows updates to install
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[20:56:09] <Rune> paulej72: ping
[20:57:19] <Rune> NCommander: ping
[21:08:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - KFC Suing Three Chinese Companies for Spreading Rumors via Social Media - http://sylnt.us - finger-lickin-rumor-stoppin
[21:09:43] takyon is now known as takyonAFK
[21:12:45] <paulej72> yes Rune
[21:14:42] <Rune> paulej72: I saw on part of the wiki that you guys might need some monitoring put into place?
[21:15:57] <Rune> " icinga/monitoring project needs killed"
[21:17:43] <paulej72> possibly. we killed it off when we retied the host it ws running but we never removed the tendrils on other hosts
[21:18:36] <Rune> I run a pretty nifty service and would like to offer it to you guys free of charge. Full os/db monitoring. Basically a highly customized nagios setup.
[21:18:50] <paulej72> if you have some knowledg in this area we would love the help
[21:18:50] <Rune> You just have to install nrpe and use a config file that points to my server.
[21:19:51] <Rune> Graphs, alerts, monitoring, full setup
[21:20:40] <paulej72> hrrm. might neef tonrun that past NCommander and the rest of the sysop staff. not sure if we want our data going to a third party server.
[21:21:07] <Rune> Completely reasonable. though the only data you are sending me is CPU %, ram load, etc
[21:21:20] <poutine> how is this different than just running your own nagios setup?
[21:21:20] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[21:21:47] <Rune> poutine: you don't have to spend 2-5 years learning Nagios and all the config is already done and tested
[21:22:08] <paulej72> our old setup was monitoring if critical services were running as wel
[21:22:08] <poutine> I spent half a day learning nagios before setting it up to monitor 16 something servers, it's pretty easy
[21:22:28] <poutine> hardly 2-5 years worth of learning
[21:22:59] <Rune> paulej72: given that it's nagios standardized nrpe client the configs can monitor specific services without releasing confidential data.
[21:23:34] <Rune> poutine: Setting up 16 servers is easy, working on hundreds of servers with tens of thousands of services customized and dynamicly with auto failover and load balancing takes time to learn ;)
[21:23:59] <poutine> wait, you use nagios to control your load balancing and failover? that's a fail in itself
[21:24:14] <paulej72> we are planning a sysop meeting soonish. ill put this on the agenda
[21:24:23] <Rune> Never said Nagios was controling load balancing. The system around it is custom
[21:24:50] <Rune> paulej72: sounds good.
[21:25:12] <poutine> well I have no affiliation with soylentnews, I just am saying I haven't seen anything that warrants a 3rd party coming in to monitor load %s and service up/down status
[21:25:42] <Rune> poutine: time/effort/knowledge vs offering it as a free service.
[21:26:01] <poutine> if soylentnews weren't a bit of an obscure site with visitors numbering in the 100s, it'd be easy to have a load balanced autoscaling system with AWS
[21:26:19] <poutine> but that's overkill
[21:28:35] <NCommander> Rune paulej72 : pong
[21:29:15] <Rune> NCommander: Aloha. Pretty much the above. Free infrastructure monitoring offered to you guys if you want it.
[21:29:23] <Rune> It's a business I run.
[21:29:33] <NCommander> Rune, may I PM you?
[21:29:37] <Rune> Fo sho
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