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[23:36:20] <juggs> Back to the essays NCommander? :)
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[22:09:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Solar Impulse Landed in Nagoya, Japan Because of Poor Weather - http://sylnt.us - sunny-skies
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[21:29:37] <Rune> Fo sho
[21:29:33] <NCommander> Rune, may I PM you?
[21:29:23] <Rune> It's a business I run.
[21:29:15] <Rune> NCommander: Aloha. Pretty much the above. Free infrastructure monitoring offered to you guys if you want it.
[21:28:35] <NCommander> Rune paulej72 : pong
[21:26:19] <poutine> but that's overkill
[21:26:01] <poutine> if soylentnews weren't a bit of an obscure site with visitors numbering in the 100s, it'd be easy to have a load balanced autoscaling system with AWS
[21:25:42] <Rune> poutine: time/effort/knowledge vs offering it as a free service.
[21:25:12] <poutine> well I have no affiliation with soylentnews, I just am saying I haven't seen anything that warrants a 3rd party coming in to monitor load %s and service up/down status
[21:24:50] <Rune> paulej72: sounds good.
[21:24:23] <Rune> Never said Nagios was controling load balancing. The system around it is custom
[21:24:14] <paulej72> we are planning a sysop meeting soonish. ill put this on the agenda
[21:23:59] <poutine> wait, you use nagios to control your load balancing and failover? that's a fail in itself
[21:23:34] <Rune> poutine: Setting up 16 servers is easy, working on hundreds of servers with tens of thousands of services customized and dynamicly with auto failover and load balancing takes time to learn ;)
[21:22:59] <Rune> paulej72: given that it's nagios standardized nrpe client the configs can monitor specific services without releasing confidential data.
[21:22:28] <poutine> hardly 2-5 years worth of learning
[21:22:08] <poutine> I spent half a day learning nagios before setting it up to monitor 16 something servers, it's pretty easy
[21:22:08] <paulej72> our old setup was monitoring if critical services were running as wel
[21:21:47] <Rune> poutine: you don't have to spend 2-5 years learning Nagios and all the config is already done and tested
[21:21:20] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[21:21:20] <poutine> how is this different than just running your own nagios setup?
[21:21:07] <Rune> Completely reasonable. though the only data you are sending me is CPU %, ram load, etc
[21:20:40] <paulej72> hrrm. might neef tonrun that past NCommander and the rest of the sysop staff. not sure if we want our data going to a third party server.
[21:19:51] <Rune> Graphs, alerts, monitoring, full setup
[21:18:50] <Rune> You just have to install nrpe and use a config file that points to my server.
[21:18:50] <paulej72> if you have some knowledg in this area we would love the help
[21:18:36] <Rune> I run a pretty nifty service and would like to offer it to you guys free of charge. Full os/db monitoring. Basically a highly customized nagios setup.
[21:17:43] <paulej72> possibly. we killed it off when we retied the host it ws running but we never removed the tendrils on other hosts
[21:15:57] <Rune> " icinga/monitoring project needs killed"
[21:14:42] <Rune> paulej72: I saw on part of the wiki that you guys might need some monitoring put into place?
[21:12:45] <paulej72> yes Rune
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[21:08:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - KFC Suing Three Chinese Companies for Spreading Rumors via Social Media - http://sylnt.us - finger-lickin-rumor-stoppin
[20:57:19] <Rune> NCommander: ping
[20:56:09] <Rune> paulej72: ping
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[19:06:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - F-35B Operational Test Trials - http://sylnt.us - cool-new-toys
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[18:06:26] <janrinok> congrats - I hope it goes well
[18:06:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> It's kind of neat being able to say "yeah, I did some work for Politifact.com"
[18:06:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Is It a Crime for Dennis Hastert to Evade Government Scrutiny? - http://sylnt.us - criminal-class
[18:05:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> Today is first day as a salaried full-time employee at Times Publishing Company. (I was a contractor before.)
[18:05:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> yup
[17:47:24] <janrinok> AndyTheAbsurd: hello to you - things are good?
[17:46:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> hi janrinok
[17:41:44] <ciri> excellent janrinok
[17:41:43] <janrinok> hi guys
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[15:03:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Sheinwald Report Urges Treaty Forcing US Web Firms' Cooperation in Data Sharing - http://sylnt.us - everyone-is-doing-it
[13:32:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Proposed Rule Change to Expand Feds’ Legal Hacking Powers Moves Forward - http://sylnt.us - bit-by-bit-by-bit || A Perfect ACT Score Couldn't Get this Student into Yale, Princeton, or Stanford - http://sylnt.us - but-he-can't-tap-dance! || AI Supercomputer Built by Tapping Data Warehouses for Their Idle Computing Power - http://sylnt.us - 2 more
[13:01:46] <paulej72> comment counts will update in the next 10 minutes, slashd needed to be started
[12:52:56] <LoRdTAW> Interesting, glad someone else caught it.
[12:44:57] <crutchy> http://www.techradar.com
[12:38:16] <exec> └─ github/issues/slashcode => https://github.com
[12:38:16] <exec> ├─ github/issues/rehash => https://github.com
[12:38:15] <crutchy> ~link issues
[12:38:08] <exec> └─ github/issues/slashcode => https://github.com
[12:38:07] <crutchy> ~link github/issues/slashcode https://github.com
[12:37:36] <exec> └─ github/issues/rehash => https://github.com
[12:37:34] <crutchy> ~link github/issues/rehash https://github.com
[12:35:11] <crutchy> LoRdTAW, https://github.com
[12:27:21] <crutchy> :p
[12:27:18] <crutchy> bad sedctl
[12:27:13] <crutchy> derp
[12:26:55] <sedctl> <crutchy> (on the main home page)
[12:26:55] <sedctl> <crutchy> (on the main home page)
[12:26:55] <crutchy> s/index/home/
[12:26:48] <crutchy> (on the main index page)
[12:26:37] <crutchy> though the mit story has 4
[12:26:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> LoRdTAW: I see 32 comments for the "Breaking News: Senate Passes USA Freedom Act" story.
[12:26:28] <crutchy> yeah
[12:21:25] <LoRdTAW> Anyone notice that the comment couint for every article is 0? I even checked on other OS and browsers.
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[11:34:34] <chromas> dunno why after connecting, quassel always jacks it a bit before it sends message
[11:32:35] <crutchy> wb dude
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[11:23:57] <crutchy> ~title off
[11:23:47] <exec> └─ 13Australian sharemarket closes near four-month low | The Australian
[11:23:43] <aqu4> ^ "3Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian"
[11:23:42] <crutchy> $title http://www.theaustralian.com.au
[11:23:34] <crutchy> beat that fucker
[11:23:27] <exec> └─ 13Australian sharemarket closes near four-month low | The Australian
[11:23:22] <crutchy> http://www.theaustralian.com.au
[11:23:09] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
[11:23:07] <crutchy> ~title on
[11:23:03] <crutchy> haha
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[08:07:22] <exec> └─ 13LiveLeak.com - Possible tactical nuke(neutron bomb) strike in Yemen?(Better quality/closer view)
[08:07:19] <crutchy> http://www.liveleak.com
[08:02:50] <crutchy> stupid bot
[08:02:28] <crutchy> http://www.liveleak.com
[08:02:23] <exec> titles enabled for 10#Soylent
[08:02:22] <crutchy> ~title on
[08:02:09] <crutchy> http://www.liveleak.com
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[07:13:31] <Bender> Added quote 528
[07:13:31] <crutchy> !grab Bytram
[07:13:09] <crutchy> chromas has died
[07:12:54] <crutchy> ah oh
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[06:05:55] <pants--> ^ 03Girl pranks her boyfriend by telling him she's pregnant. It backfires horribly. - GIF on Imgur
[06:05:54] <artificial> http://imgur.com
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[03:20:10] <pants--> ^ 03[done] AMD Launching First GPU With HBM Memory At E3, On June 16
[03:20:09] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[02:50:47] <Bytram> paulej72: meet me in #qa for some cut-n-paste action
[02:50:06] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:46:19] <cmn32480> better to catch unicode than the clap
[02:46:00] <Bytram> nograb
[02:45:49] * Bytram wonders if it is 'catchy' and seeks out some garlic, just in case.
[02:44:09] <takyon> I got unicode
[02:44:07] <takyon> you need unicode
[02:43:54] <pants--> ^ 03Cinemark theater chain receives Justice Department query - MarketWatch
[02:43:53] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[02:43:52] <Bytram> a blocky block... hmmm
[02:43:36] <Bytram> back
[02:38:06] <paulej72> well the last block is working for me now, but the third block is still blocky
[02:32:32] <cmn32480> I totally was. I have kids that are still learning their alphabet.
[02:32:13] <Bytram> afk back in about 5 minutes or so
[02:31:53] <Bytram> the 'AND' was a giveaway!
[02:31:34] <Bytram> well done... tell me you were not humming or singing along while you did that!
[02:30:57] <cmn32480> PQRSTUVWXY AND z
[02:30:37] <Bytram> @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO
[02:30:36] <Bytram> so, that translates it to become:
[02:30:16] <Bytram> the other tool, peu2utf-8 encodes those unicode code points as UTF-8 strings.
[02:29:34] <Bytram> %u0040%u0041%u0042%u0043%u0044%u0045%u0046%u0047%u0048%u0049%u004a%u004b%u004c%u004d%u004e%u004f
[02:29:32] <Bytram> so, the very first line output from that is:
[02:28:27] <Bytram> means to generate percent-encoded unicode chars for 0x40 through 0x7f, and then for 0x0140 through 0x017f, etc.
[02:27:45] <Bytram> FYI: this line in the comment: peugen 0x40 0x7f 0x0140 0x017f 0x0700 0x073f 0x0800 0x083f
[02:26:42] <cmn32480> and one character in the third block.
[02:26:31] <Bytram> I'm using: 'Unifont CSUR'
[02:26:26] <paulej72> I must not have the correct fonts installed
[02:26:10] <cmn32480> I see squares for only the last block
[02:26:05] <Bytram> I'm using some gnu font... lemme check
[02:25:52] <Bytram> the rest of the chars all have 'glyphs' for them, from my perspective.
[02:25:30] <Bytram> I see one replacement char at the end of the line starting with 'pqrstuv', as well as 'numbered boxes' for: U+070e u+082f u+082e and u+083f
[02:25:25] <paulej72> Bytram: the last two blocks are all unknown chars
[02:22:58] <pants--> ^ 03SN journal testing some utf-8 encoded unicode chars after rehash loaded 04(0 comments)
[02:22:58] <Bytram> paulej72: how's this look to you? http://soylentnews.org
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[02:21:39] * cmn32480 sighs in relief
[02:21:21] <cmn32480> looks like my upgrade to vsphere 6 is gonna work
[02:19:49] * Bytram clicks preview
[02:19:18] <ciri> rofl
[02:19:17] <paulej72> lol exec
[02:18:50] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 47°F / 8°C, cloudy, wind NE at 4 mph, humidity 92% - Tuesday cloudy (46°F-51°F / 8°C-11°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (47°F-59°F / 8°C-15°C), Thursday partly cloudy (52°F-64°F / 11°C-18°C), Friday showers (56°F-66°F / 13°C-19°C)
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[02:15:57] * Bytram needs to test utf-8 on prod... biab
[02:15:17] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:14:45] <paulej72> jornal should be fine. if the db is not connedting right ti will fail
[02:14:26] * Bytram waits for 'all of the above'
[02:14:05] <Bytram> Bytram: have't tried it on prod... site story? site comment? journal story? journal comment?
[02:13:44] <paulej72> if everyone jumps up at the same time, we can keep the plane up longer
[02:13:43] <NCommander> paulej72, well it was very fast then it got slower
[02:13:17] <Bytram> cmn32480: ROFL!
[02:12:54] <paulej72> Bytram: can you see if normal utf8 is working ok if you have not
[02:12:50] <cmn32480> the rest of us will keep flapping our arms to keep it n the air. No worries.
[02:12:30] <sedctl> <Bytram> just mixed metaphors, badly, and is quite all right with it.
[02:12:30] <Bytram> s/phots/phors/
[02:12:28] <paulej72> cheking topic and and primary in an or statement is dog slow
[02:12:24] * Bytram just mixed metaphots, badly, and is quite all right with it.
[02:12:03] <Bytram> you've got one honking big pile of code that just had the rug pulled out from under it... you're doing one hell of a job fixing the plane while it's still in flight!
[02:11:44] <paulej72> NCommander: nexii seem to be a bit slower than the mainpage. I think the slow queries will show that the some of the nexus queries are issues
[02:11:12] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[02:11:12] <Bytram> !woop
[02:11:10] <Bytram> nod nod; I saw the post/comment/whatever about O(n*m) ==> O(1)
[02:10:31] <paulej72> or new db engine is a dog give some specific types of queries
[02:09:58] <paulej72> Bytram: NCommander setup logging of slow queries on mysql
[02:08:33] <Bytram> IOW, is that something I can see, and if so, how do I get there?
[02:08:14] <Bytram> paulej72: lag log? Is that in the admin panel, or something that needs to be run directly on the vm?
[02:08:12] <SirFinkus> works on my machine™
[02:06:49] <paulej72> check the lag log
[02:06:37] <NCommander> Is it just me, or has the site started to lag again
[02:06:30] * cmn32480 cocks his gun for the next bullet
[02:05:31] * Bytram tosses a bouquet of flowers
[02:04:55] <paulej72> exec died sometime today
[02:01:42] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5352, owned by Osc
[02:01:41] <Bytram> !uid
[02:01:37] <Bytram> ~uid
[02:01:32] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[02:01:27] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[02:01:22] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[01:50:35] <poutine> someone turned on some shit
[01:42:59] <cmn32480> I jsut figured out how to do it paulej72. My iDrac Card has the ability to mount an ISO. That should allow me to be on the remote console and do the upgrade. And if it goes pear shaped, oh well. I'll be in the office tomorrow to fix it.
[01:39:53] <cmn32480> damnit... there's that ding again....
[01:37:22] <poutine> dis my house http://testuser:testing@home.smarthomesoft.com:5515
[01:36:29] <cmn32480> you have an idea paulej72?
[01:35:24] <cmn32480> sorry... I couldn't help myself
[01:35:11] <cmn32480> I'm feeling lucky. Punk.
[01:34:45] <paulej72> cmn32480: how lucky do you feel?
[01:31:43] <cmn32480> hmmm... I wonder if I can upgrade to vsphere 6 without actual physical access to the box....
[01:29:55] <SirFinkus> When I'm a rock star, I'll include such sounds in my albums
[01:28:39] <cmn32480> nice
[01:28:27] <SirFinkus> I check it every time
[01:28:23] <SirFinkus> I have a song that has a my exact "new email" sound effect in it
[01:27:55] <SirFinkus> uh oh
[01:26:27] <cmn32480> wtf... somethign jsut dinged. and I have no idea which device it was
[01:24:47] <cmn32480> if you mean my refrigerator... yes
[01:24:19] <SirFinkus> does your package manager have beer?
[01:24:11] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[01:23:53] <cmn32480> hehe
[01:22:36] <SirFinkus> the best feature of brew is the beer emoji when you finish installing something
[01:22:01] <cmn32480> ooooo pretty
[01:21:47] <cmn32480> ZOINKS!
[01:21:45] <SirFinkus> anyway, here you go cmn32480 http://i.imgur.com
[01:20:51] <SirFinkus> at my old job (around 4 years ago) we were running 98 se
[01:20:41] <cmn32480> oh well.. fort building it is!
[01:20:30] <SirFinkus> yeah, I think the emoji don't happen until windows 8
[01:20:29] <cmn32480> I was at a customer site today still running Win 2000 Server
[01:20:14] <cmn32480> Win 7
[01:20:12] <SirFinkus> 7?
[01:20:05] <cmn32480> Windows of course
[01:19:52] <SirFinkus> os?
[01:19:48] * SirFinkus wishes they'd finish BTP already
[01:19:35] <cmn32480> sigh... what font do I need to install now?
[01:19:15] <SirFinkus> you don't have a font with the beer emoji
[01:18:58] <cmn32480> boxes w/ 4 squares.. how kind of you. maybe I'll build a fort
[01:18:36] <SirFinkus> 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
[01:18:25] <cmn32480> WOO HOO!
[01:18:09] * SirFinkus beers the staff
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[00:48:53] <NCommander> paulej72, swapfile added to helium
[00:47:54] <NCommander> In case ndbd takes a dive again
[00:47:49] <NCommander> I'm hestiant to upgrade neon now
[00:46:13] <NCommander> paulej72, its mostly to handle spikes so instead of OOMing, we page shit out
[00:45:57] <NCommander> :)
[00:45:55] <paulej72> talking about a swap partition
[00:45:29] <paulej72> well if we are making a file then it is not
[00:44:50] <NCommander> dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile; mkswap /swapfile; swapon /swapfile is hard?
[00:44:32] <paulej72> that is pain in the ass
[00:44:04] <NCommander> paulej72, more swap!
[00:42:06] <paulej72> Swap: 524284 82588 441696
[00:42:06] <paulej72> -/+ buffers/cache: 3733468 365696
[00:42:06] <paulej72> Mem: 4099164 4077968 21196 0 64860 279640
[00:42:06] <paulej72> total used free shared buffers cached
[00:42:06] <paulej72> slash@neon:~/db_dumps$ free
[00:41:13] <paulej72> Swap: 524284 372340 151944
[00:41:13] <paulej72> -/+ buffers/cache: 4034684 62832
[00:41:13] <paulej72> Mem: 4097516 4069552 27964 8032 3860 31008
[00:41:13] <paulej72> total used free shared buffers cached
[00:41:13] <paulej72> root@helium:/opt/mysql# free
[00:40:31] <paulej72> we are just trying to do too much with everyting in only 4GB of memeory
[00:39:55] <paulej72> helium has swap
[00:39:38] <NCommander> paulej72, I think we need to add a swap file to helium to prevent the world from abandoning its brain
[00:39:23] <NCommander> paulej72, I dropped the size of the disk cache to 128 M
[00:39:08] <paulej72> NCommander: if that is the case we may need to tune shit to save memory
[00:39:05] <NCommander> paulej72, ndbd out of memoried -_-;
[00:38:11] <paulej72> NCommander: why was helium's down oom?
[00:38:00] <cmn32480> grumble grumble fucking tinkertoys grumble
[00:37:34] <NCommander> cmn32480, the database cluster. I went to start helium's database node, and neon's went tit up
[00:37:11] <cmn32480> yes. What went ass over tea kettle?
[00:36:49] <mythterj> Yup...
[00:36:35] <NCommander> mythterj, cmn32480 we're nback
[00:34:34] <NCommander> paulej72, http only
[00:34:30] <paulej72> I see the site
[00:34:25] <NCommander> Working on it
[00:34:08] <cmn32480> thanks mytherj... I get same results
[00:33:55] <NCommander> Load balancer doesn't appear to have noticed the site came back
[00:33:40] <mythterj> It works on http, still 503 on https
[00:33:38] <cmn32480> 5
[00:33:35] <cmn32480> I did, ctrl F
[00:33:25] <paulej72> try a reload cmn32480
[00:33:14] <cmn32480> site is still at 503
[00:33:11] <NCommander> paulej72, on the plus side, SN came back automatically when the database fired up; that's an improvement :)
[00:32:50] <NCommander> I want a real database
[00:32:48] <NCommander> paulej72, no, I restarted helium and neon went tits up
[00:32:32] <paulej72> did you take down neon then helium whent tits up?
[00:32:31] <NCommander> Site is back
[00:32:19] <NCommander> node 3 is back up
[00:31:51] <NCommander> paulej72, neon's ndbd instance is still starting
[00:31:40] <paulej72> NCommander: whats are status
[00:31:35] <NCommander> Startup time from a cold startup is very slow
[00:30:14] <cmn32480> we just went 503
[00:30:06] <mythterj> Still seeing 503 from here...
[00:29:33] <NCommander> Cluster is recovering
[00:28:38] <cmn32480> probably my fault. I tried to reply to a comment
[00:28:11] <NCommander> The database just ejected its brain
[00:28:05] <cmn32480> funny I was thinking the same thign NCommander
[00:27:53] <NCommander> oh shit
[00:27:16] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v cmn32480] by Imogen
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[00:19:49] <NCommander> paulej72, ugh, ndbd OOMed on helim
[00:19:04] <NCommander> I restarted helium's ndbd cluster earlier today
[00:18:58] <NCommander> paulej72, it is
[00:13:46] <paulej72> NCommander: should not be a problem if cluster is working proerly
[00:11:31] <NCommander> paulej72, well, I'd like to upgrade neon to Ubuntu 14.04, and get other updates installed.
[00:10:12] <paulej72> NCommander: I am not sure if my.cfn is set for mysql on helium
[00:09:12] <SirFinkus> a LITTLE dramatic
[00:09:02] * SirFinkus rolls eyes
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[00:08:58] <SirFinkus> https://twitter.com
[00:08:51] <paulej72> hydrogen is up, but not in rotation due to some issues I am tring to work out
[00:08:00] <NCommander> paulej72, is both hydrogen and fluorine back up?
[00:07:04] <NCommander> paulej72, I'd like to get HTTPS by default but I need to figure out how to get the tor backend to ignore that
[00:06:48] * NCommander is trying to figure out what next to do on the SN todo list
[00:03:46] * NCommander tries to gear up to build a new dev VM for TheMightyBuzzard and others
[00:03:39] <paulej72> no
[00:03:11] <NCommander> paulej72, is helium paging out?
[00:03:06] <NCommander> paulej72, I haven't got the foggiest