#Soylent | Logs for 2015-06-02

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[00:01:25] <Landon> just after I was playing around with my interbutts interfaces :)
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[00:19:16] <mythterj> Is it a known issue that links to replys are broken in the emails? (Not wanting to pile on if its already known).
[00:20:39] <NCommander> mythterj, suspect its a new issue :(
[00:21:23] <mythterj> They seem to be missing the "http:" part...
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[00:34:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Self-Folding Robot Walks, Swims, Climbs, Dissolves - http://sylnt.us - not-quite-R2D2-or-C3PO
[00:35:06] * SpallsHurgenson reads that as "sex-folding robot" at first... I dunno what that could be, but I was intrigued!
[00:37:16] <SpallsHurgenson> then I saw what it actually read and suddenly lost interest
[00:44:49] <Landon> hoof
[00:44:53] <Landon> I really fucked my networking over
[00:44:55] <Landon> but I'm back!
[00:45:04] <Landon> somehow I lost my default ipv6 addr
[00:45:10] <Landon> well, it wasn't assigned to eth0 anymore
[00:46:03] <SpallsHurgenson> did you check behind the couch cushions?
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[00:48:43] <Landon> SpallsHurgenson: it was in my linode control panel the whole time ! ;)
[00:48:59] <SpallsHurgenson> always the last place you look
[00:49:00] <Landon> but still, I had to set it up as a static addr :s not sure what I changed last night so that it stopped autoconfiguring
[00:49:12] <Landon> still can't hop on freenode
[00:49:12] <Landon> :\
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[01:00:21] <NCommander> I feel completely dead
[01:00:22] <NCommander> :(
[01:00:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I am fairly confident that you are not
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[01:03:34] * Landon pokes him
[01:03:36] <Landon> still alive!
[01:04:02] <cmn32480> OW!
[01:04:12] <paulej72> NCommander: getSkins fails when running an article in a nexus
[01:04:18] * cmn32480 pokes Landon wiht a sharp stick
[01:04:56] <Landon> my wife is already doing that since she can't connect to IRC right now
[01:05:51] <cmn32480> poor dear
[01:06:16] <cmn32480> at least she si trying to connect to IRC. my wife keeps asking me where to hang pictures.
[01:06:26] <cmn32480> like my opinion matters
[01:06:59] <cmn32480> so far I am 1 for 7 on "correct" plaement
[01:07:08] <Landon> the worst kind of point and click adventure
[01:07:18] <SpallsHurgenson> she'll make you move that 1 picture later :)
[01:07:24] <Landon> unfortunately, for all scales that matter when picture hanging, reality is very continuous :(
[01:07:33] <cmn32480> she is hanging them. I'm working on my expenses for May.
[01:07:45] <Landon> I need to do that
[01:07:49] <cmn32480> right here... while burning time on IRC
[01:07:56] <Landon> did it on the 22nd, then realized we still have to survive another week until budget can be finalized
[01:08:04] <Landon> what do you use?
[01:08:19] <cmn32480> for my expenses? or IRC?
[01:08:24] <Landon> expenses
[01:08:28] <cmn32480> NeatReceipts
[01:08:29] <chromas> use emacs for both
[01:08:43] <cmn32480> good evening chromas.
[01:08:56] <cmn32480> sorry about the tumble in the pitchform market yesterday
[01:09:07] <chromas> :'(
[01:09:22] * chromas holds hat over heart
[01:09:27] <chromas> I lost all muh life savin's
[01:09:35] <cmn32480> Landon - I have been on NeatReceipts for about 8 years.
[01:10:04] * cmn32480 consoles chromas with a shiny new ho
[01:10:17] <SpallsHurgenson> Real Men just spend until the money's gone... then get drunk and wonder what went wrong :)
[01:10:59] <chromas> So it's like they're married, except they get to do the spending
[01:11:01] <cmn32480> heya spalls
[01:11:44] <cmn32480> Landon - I even got the CFO to take the default expense report that it spits out. No tweaking needed.
[01:14:07] <NCommander> paulej72, ... so why doesn't it fail on the main page which is technically a nexus?!
[01:15:11] <Landon> whoops where did I leave off
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[01:15:23] <Landon> aha
[01:15:35] <Landon> we've been using YNAB, recording expenses at POS
[01:15:42] <cmn32480> interesting
[01:15:59] <Landon> only receipts I scan are the freaking HSA receipts
[01:16:14] <cmn32480> HSA?
[01:16:17] <Landon> uhm
[01:16:23] <Landon> the health insurance bank accounts thing
[01:16:31] <cmn32480> Health Savings Account
[01:16:31] <Landon> health savings account*
[01:16:38] <cmn32480> :-)
[01:16:41] <cmn32480> gotcha
[01:17:04] <cmn32480> Neat has a cloud service, where you snap a picture and upload.... but it is too expensive
[01:17:05] * SpallsHurgenson looks for the footnote that goes with that asterisk
[01:17:15] <cmn32480> HSA spalls
[01:17:19] <cmn32480> 4 lines up
[01:17:28] <cmn32480> pay attention... there is going to be a quiz later
[01:17:52] <SpallsHurgenson> if its ABOVE it can't be a FOOTNOTE :)
[01:18:08] <cmn32480> if the page is upsided down it certainly can
[01:18:16] <SpallsHurgenson> this isnt Australia
[01:18:21] <Landon> correction asterisk!
[01:18:30] <Landon> aHA, I lost my routing tables for ipv6
[01:18:42] <Landon> ::/0 --> lo interface
[01:18:43] <Landon> :\
[01:18:48] <cmn32480> that explains the reversed footnote thing
[01:21:02] <cmn32480> geesh... Verizon is offering 500Mbps/500Mbps packages
[01:21:28] <SpallsHurgenson> actual speed: 500kbps. capped at 10MB
[01:21:41] <cmn32480> they woudln't do that!
[01:21:47] <cmn32480> <cough> <Cough?
[01:21:49] <SpallsHurgenson> one word: Verizon
[01:22:00] <Landon> symmetric connection? april fools!
[01:22:16] <Landon> supposedly cox is going to roll out gigabit in the local market this month
[01:22:44] <cmn32480> so let me get this right... you are going to have superfast cox?
[01:23:02] <cmn32480> I wouldn't brag about that. Good thing your wife isn't on.
[01:23:50] <Landon> the fastest cox
[01:23:56] <Landon> actually we're on the small cox
[01:24:03] <Landon> I would go smaller, but you don't save much :(
[01:24:19] <cmn32480> Ethanol-Fueled has a solution for that
[01:24:42] <takyon> http://theweek.com
[01:24:42] <cmn32480> but not really somethign to discuss in polite company
[01:24:42] <pants--> ^ 03Rand Paul just sacrificed his presidential campaign for his libertarian principles
[01:49:39] <SpallsHurgenson> amazon makes shoppin too easy
[01:53:48] <SpallsHurgenson> there ought to be a law; I mean, surely they don't expect ME to police my own spending habits!
[01:54:35] <takyon> ok, we'll tax your purchases and give that money to NIH brain research
[01:55:56] <takyon> http://puu.sh
[02:34:58] <SpallsHurgenson> "What is it?" "It is... it is green!"
[02:35:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Slashdot Burying Stories About Dice Owned SourceForge - http://sylnt.us - no-such-thing-as-bad-publicity
[02:36:36] <Landon> took long enough :)
[02:36:54] <SpallsHurgenson> jokes of that quality take time to ferment :)
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[02:38:57] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:38:58] <pants--> ^ 03Bundestag hack origin still a mystery as DE.gov techies pull out their hair • The Register
[02:41:17] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:41:18] <pants--> ^ 03What a Zuckin' drag! 'Frisco queens protest outside Facebook HQ over 'real names' policy • The Register
[02:41:30] <SpallsHurgenson> probably was the BND; they've gotten jealous of how the NSA spies on US congressmen and think they ought to do the same to their politicos :)
[02:42:34] <cmn32480> does anyone know the appropriate response to the following"
[02:42:54] <SpallsHurgenson> 42
[02:42:55] <cmn32480> "I feel like I just got screwed in a very uncomfortable place"
[02:43:14] <paulej72> in your ear, cmn32480?
[02:43:16] <SpallsHurgenson> the answer always is 42
[02:43:58] <cmn32480> sigh... that's what I thought
[02:45:03] <cmn32480> "what... like the back of a volkswagon?"
[02:45:13] <SpallsHurgenson> also 42
[02:48:47] <Bytram> paulej72++
[02:48:47] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 164
[02:48:56] <Bytram> paulej72++
[02:48:56] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 165
[02:49:00] <Bytram> NCommander++
[02:49:00] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 82
[02:49:03] <Bytram> NCommander++
[02:49:03] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 83
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[03:26:21] <Bytram> juggs++
[03:26:21] <Bender> karma - juggs: 76
[03:26:22] <Bytram> juggs++
[03:26:22] <Bender> karma - juggs: 77
[03:26:23] <Bytram> juggs++
[03:26:23] <Bender> karma - juggs: 78
[03:31:45] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs--
[03:31:45] <Bender> karma - juggs: 77
[03:31:51] <SpallsHurgenson> (just to be different)
[03:44:03] <cmn32480> night gents! and you too SpallsHurgenson
[03:44:09] <cmn32480> juggs++
[03:44:09] <Bender> karma - juggs: 78
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[03:56:56] <SirFinkus> forgive me #soylent, for I have sinned
[03:57:19] <SpallsHurgenson> do I smell... the green site on you?!?!?
[03:57:30] <SirFinkus> worse, I opened a beer, forgot about it, now it's warm and flat
[03:57:51] <SpallsHurgenson> oh it turned into budweiser
[03:58:22] <SirFinkus> I'm drinking it as pennence
[03:59:02] * SirFinkus is listening to Earth — Seven Angels, from the album Earth 2: Special Low Frequency Version
[03:59:22] <SirFinkus> this part isn't penance, but it might be for some people
[03:59:31] <juggs> SirFinkus, what you have there is Ale...
[03:59:50] <SirFinkus> it's an IPA, so it's better cold
[04:00:55] <juggs> Mask the flavour by cooling it... that works I guess :)
[04:01:40] <SirFinkus> naw, there's a sweet spot for IPAs
[04:01:54] <SirFinkus> they don't need to be ice cold like a lager or other shitty beer
[04:02:02] <SirFinkus> but they do need to be colder than what I'm having now
[04:08:32] * SpallsHurgenson looks for the thingee that makes it go
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[04:25:22] * SpallsHurgenson 's hand unconsciously drifts over the "one-click purchase" button before he notices and forces it away again
[04:25:51] <swiss> lol
[04:26:10] <swiss> also, hops, gross
[04:37:10] <SirFinkus> hops are delicious
[04:37:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cybersecurity and the Tylenol Murders - http://sylnt.us - dr.-spin
[04:37:50] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, do you really need 27 NVidia Titan X cards? What are you doing over there, being NASA?
[04:38:54] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, I wish I had two of those 980ti cards they just released!
[04:39:20] <SpallsHurgenson> anyone wanna spot me $1300? There's even a non-zero chance I'll pay you back someday! :)
[04:39:47] <juggs> that chance being 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
[04:40:01] <juggs> I'll pass if it's all te same
[04:40:07] <SpallsHurgenson> nonetheless, non-zero :)
[04:40:28] * SirFinkus is listening to Earth — Like Gold And Faceted, from the album Earth 2: Special Low Frequency Version
[04:40:33] <SirFinkus> this is getting ridiculous
[04:40:51] <SirFinkus> 27 minutes of the same note, going in and out of phase
[04:40:58] <SirFinkus> but it works so well
[04:41:14] <SirFinkus> oh wait, this one is 30 minutes
[04:42:51] * SirFinkus notices the logo has retruned
[04:44:52] <SirFinkus> returned even
[04:44:58] <SpallsHurgenson> it was missing?
[04:45:38] <SirFinkus> after The Update ™
[04:46:09] <SpallsHurgenson> probably fell behind the couch, like everything else
[04:48:42] <juggs> That was a CSS glitch, pj nailed it after it was mentioned in comments, No doubt there will be other such weirdness cropping up over the next few days.
[04:49:52] <SpallsHurgenson> again with the boring facts. Spice it up, man!
[04:53:25] * NCommander can't sleep
[04:55:47] <juggs> Sheesh, I'd have to learn marketing droid language to do that. Maybe... we streamlined the user experience by adopting and cultivating the very most bleeding edge user delivery platform. In so doing, we pushed the envelope on what is possible. It has rough edges, but we hope to get those knocked out over the next few days. Just be glad and happy, everything will be A-OK.
[04:56:33] <juggs> Yeh - I'm not cut out for marketing :)
[04:57:02] <juggs> NCommander, what's keeping you awake?
[04:57:14] <SpallsHurgenson> well actually I was hoping to hear about ancient aztec curses and daring last-minute rescues but I guess you can do marketing speak if you really want
[04:59:58] <juggs> I am contractually bound not to speak of the virgins or chicken bones, not that those things happened, or if they did I couldn't speak of them. Or something. OK, there may have been incantations, but no-one inhaled. Is that sufficient?
[05:02:48] <NCommander> .op
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[05:02:51] NCommander changed topic of #Soylent to: SN Main Channel - be respectful of others | https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publically displayed
[05:02:56] <NCommander> juggs, insomina
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[05:08:25] <juggs> NCommander, I know how that goes. For me it is endless replays of coulda/shoulda when it strikes. Takes a concerted effort to shake that off with a good dose of "in hindsight sure, but best to leave it behind and move on now" self talkage.
[05:18:23] <juggs> Anyway, time for me to hit the horizontal thing with insulating material atop. Be well all,
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[05:39:10] * NCommander vaguely wonders of /. editors ever read SN
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[06:08:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Exii Hackberry, an Open Sourced 3D Printed Bionic Hand - http://sylnt.us - luke-skywalker
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[08:10:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Adds Support for PGP Keys to Profiles - http://sylnt.us - privacy-is-key
[08:15:56] <K_benzoate> I've been trying to cook a Thinkpad to death by running asteroids@home for the last week. It's been at around 82C the whole time.
[08:16:51] <chromas> furnace@home
[08:18:50] <K_benzoate> At least it's doing scientifically useful computation.
[08:21:32] <K_benzoate> I'm also in the top 5% of SETI@home contributors.
[08:30:10] <poutine> Anyone know anything about reversing arm5eabi binaries?
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[09:02:10] <isostatic> Anyone else unable to see comments while logged in?
[09:03:39] <geotti_away> comments
[09:04:08] <geotti_away> Buz, did you set up us the bomb?
[09:08:12] <SirFinkus> works on my machine isostatic
[09:08:37] <chromas> I just got that same bug. Also an internal error appearing at the bottom of the page
[09:08:45] <SirFinkus> Safari 8.0.7 (10600.7.7) in case anyone cares
[09:09:06] <SirFinkus> oh wait, got an error on the octave story
[09:09:24] <SirFinkus> now on the facebook one
[09:09:58] <SirFinkus> on the exii hackberry story, no comments, and no error
[09:10:25] <SirFinkus> tylenol story I got comments and no errors
[09:10:38] <chromas> Still slow too
[09:10:57] <SirFinkus> I suspect it has something to do with caching, since the tylenol story took 5 seconds or so to load, and the error'd ones were instant
[09:19:29] <crutchy> we're in beta phase
[09:19:38] <crutchy> soylent beta
[09:20:17] <crutchy> except here we call it 'rehash' instead
[09:21:08] crutchy is now known as poutine--
[09:21:22] <poutine--> it will never take off
[09:21:28] <poutine--> you guys are just wasting your time
[09:21:38] <poutine--> obama is legend
[09:21:45] <poutine--> pants++
[09:21:45] <Bender> karma - pants: -3
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[10:11:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Our Obsession With Metrics is Corrupting Science - http://sylnt.us - lies-and-statistics
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[10:51:24] <TLA> mornin' gang, who'd left the handbrake off hte Mystery Machine?
[11:08:17] * n1 yawn
[11:12:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Exiii Hackberry, an Open Sourced 3D Printed Bionic Hand - http://sylnt.us - luke-skywalker
[11:16:17] <TLA> soulskill just not only jumped the shark, he stuck his dick in its mouth on the way over: http://tech.slashdot.org
[11:16:18] <pants--> ^ 03SourceForge and GIMP [Updated] - Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org )
[11:16:56] <TLA> TFS: "Long weekend". Comment: "Gathering more information". Which is it, soulskill?
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[11:20:27] <TLA> um... anyone over on #dev?
[11:20:41] <n1> i doubt it at this hour
[11:21:10] <TLA> oh. Bit of a problem with the site. I think this is one I've had before tho.
[11:22:37] <TLA> the sourceforge story, I hit F5 and the page loads down to the thread options box and stops. No comments load. I have to hit refresh four or five times before it actually loads the comments.
[11:30:52] <n1> yeah, i had a page load problem too
[11:33:56] <TLA> IIRC it's a transient issue with the cache, it might even have already been mentioned in the changelog this time round
[11:35:25] <n1> https://www.youtube.com
[11:35:25] <pants--> ^✓ 03Amp Live 3 Flight In G Minor feat Dirty Cello - YouTube
[11:35:41] <n1> it only happened once for me and that was on mobile, so i didnt think too much of it
[11:38:26] * n1 is slightly disappointed that a number of the community doesnt see the difference between the /.-sf story and other potentially lawyer inducing situations.
[11:39:33] <TLA> I have the solution to the SF problem though - it's something I've been doing since the Google cloud went live. Find clean versions of the installers you use and upload to your G+ space, and use that as your permanent repository. I've still not managed to fill 15GB with apps.
[11:39:53] <paulej72> TLA: we had a similar issue before the upgrade. I am not sure what is going on, but it may be sone caching issue
[11:40:37] <TLA> ok thanks for the confirmation Paul, I thought it looked familiar... :) I recall I spoke to NC about it before
[11:40:39] <n1> have a problem right there with the whole
[11:40:46] <n1> G+
[11:41:01] <n1> mornin', paulej72
[11:41:11] <paulej72> morning n
[11:41:50] <TLA> there are problems with G+, not least of which the whole privacy thing - that's also present with Facebook and every other SN site. It's all down to watching what you upload.
[11:42:40] <n1> i have a gmail account
[11:42:45] <n1> and i have a youtube account
[11:42:51] <n1> i never once asked for them to be one and the same
[11:42:56] <n1> and be continually forced to making it so
[11:43:04] <n1> so i can be a super awesome G+ member
[11:43:14] <TLA> and bearing in mind that if it can be read or viewed without having to bruteforce a password encryption, it can be monetised by the host (don't try and convince me it doesn't happen, it's right there in FB's T&C - they own everything).
[11:43:25] <n1> i dont have a FB
[11:44:11] <TLA> don't you think that was an inevitability since Google bought Youtube??
[11:44:20] <n1> and there might have been a mention of physical violence if i'm mentioned or tagged on facebook by people supposed to be my 'friends'
[11:45:24] <n1> it probably was, but at the time when i got a youtube and a gmail account
[11:45:26] <n1> G+ didnt exist
[11:46:19] <n1> if id have known then what i do now
[11:46:25] <TLA> I think I get what you mean - some people like Ford and hate VW, they'd have kittens if Ford bought VW and started using their engines
[11:46:57] <n1> it is more the consequence of 'free services'
[11:47:10] <TLA> hehe, yeah you get what you pay for
[11:47:26] <n1> you know, if i could see what google would become
[11:47:37] <n1> 10 years ago, probably wouldnt have been down with the gmail
[11:47:49] <TLA> what, the embodiment of the internet of everything?
[11:48:00] <n1> aye
[11:48:01] <TLA> notice I didn't say the internet of things
[11:48:15] <n1> and thats fair enough
[11:48:20] <n1> the internet of things already exists
[11:49:04] <TLA> the internet of everything means not just things, but *everything* is serialised, tracked, indexed, punched and filed. Right down to those little sachets of sugar at Starbuck's.
[11:49:19] <n1> but sadly, the internet of everything will probably keep me in gainful employment for the coming years...
[11:49:53] <n1> much like how the ever growing network of CCTV systems kept me in gainful employment (mostly) for the last 10.
[11:49:55] <TLA> sure, if your thing is the infrastructure required to track it all, it's the last secure sector on the planet.
[11:50:16] <n1> sometimes it's hard to sleep at night.
[11:50:34] <TLA> oh, I've always had problems sleeping
[11:51:22] <n1> it's actually kind of like the discussion we had yesterday about the politics, you vote for the lesser evil, you try to be the best in a bad market
[11:51:26] <TLA> that's probably down to my brain always going ten to the dozen more than anything else tho
[11:51:29] <n1> it's still leads down a bad path.
[11:52:32] <TLA> not a guilt thing, surely?
[11:52:53] <n1> but if i choose not to work and do this shit which can be considered morally questionable at times (in a larger, philosophical sense), i'd just be a lazy shirker who is jealous of other peoples success
[11:53:19] <TLA> I could understand guilt if you were pumping cyanide into a warehouse but only because there's some guy next to you with a pistol in your ear...
[11:54:01] <n1> it's upto other people how they use the tools
[11:54:06] <n1> so maybe it's not my fault or progblem
[11:54:11] <n1> problem*
[11:54:55] <TLA> my tool is my brain, I'm a bomb with a conscience. I can say "no" (and I have).
[11:55:11] <n1> Oh indeed, i have said no, and thats why i'm totally self-employed now
[11:55:20] <n1> so i get to make those decisions by myself
[11:55:48] <n1> i know what im getting myself into, there's not some other side of the business working for other ends
[11:57:13] <n1> it has been most enlightening to work in various sectors and be treated like an insider
[11:57:27] <n1> doesnt make me happy, but it's been informative
[11:58:21] <n1> 'i would never lie to sell, but sometimes you have to' - military policeman turned salesman
[11:58:47] <n1> that was pretty much the first thing he said to be.
[11:58:48] <n1> me*
[11:59:05] <TLA> I'll vouch. As a lay legal adviser I've seen the opulence in the highest court chambers in the land, and the pomp and circumstance surrounding some of the most esoteric rituals you've never seen (like judges at the RCJ looking like they're rat-arsed by 11am - because they *are* rat-arsed).
[12:00:21] <n1> wish i was surprised
[12:02:12] <n1> although it's not all bad, some people i was working with last week, it was very refeshing to see decent people doing their jobs in the right way, rather than using their authority as an excuse to feed their ego
[12:02:32] <TLA> one of the most useful lessons I learned while doing that though was the fact that there's few better places for an Aspie to be than to be researching, writing and proofing legal documents. It looks like English at a glance, but that is precisely what it isn't. You have to be positively anal about the meaning of every single word and the placement of every single punctuation mark, which is why I got so upset with that one corr
[12:03:08] <TLA> <=terminal perfectionist at work
[12:04:32] <n1> that made me think of reading something about the US tax system and the IRS having to write a 13 page definition or something on what 'volunteer' means in a specific context
[12:04:40] <n1> or something like that, might have that all backwards
[12:07:48] <TLA> yes I think the people they have drafting these things might be Aspies as well, I can't think of any other personality type that would have the patience
[12:08:37] <TLA> altohugh, I do like to simplify for the nontechnical (tohugh it is a challenge sometimes especially when it's concerning things of a highly technical nature to begin with)
[12:11:37] <n1> problem is you need to be a laywer to understand the laws, and even then thats still open to different readings
[12:11:45] <n1> but you dont need to be a lawyer to be held to account by those laws
[12:12:06] <n1> ignorance is no excuse, lacking a degree in law is no excuse
[12:12:29] <n1> new spam/scam email 'your email account is nearly full, click here to validate'
[12:12:35] <n1> have not seen one of those before
[12:13:00] <TLA> I don't have a degree in Law, I just have the knack for microscopic analysis - and a talent for pissing judges off
[12:13:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Level 3 Blocking Traffic to Servers Believed Controlled by Criminal Gangs - http://sylnt.us - net-neutrality
[12:13:39] <n1> maybe not, but you know what i mean
[12:14:40] <TLA> heeh... I know when my email account is nearly full, my cloud space goes under 100MB and I get a flash warning on the left margin. Then I know it's time to archive and bump it across to one of my other accounts.
[12:15:38] <n1> i might have even bought it, but i recently upgraded my account to a package which includes 'unlimited email storage'
[12:15:40] <TLA> oh yes, it's an oft-repeated maxim in the Chamber, and one used to justify the inevitable harsh sentence
[12:16:10] <n1> then seeing the email about using all my email came from 'email-security.com' or some shit
[12:16:32] <n1> and the 'validate now' link appears to go to 'goa-tourism' or something
[12:16:56] <TLA> I keep getting email from Paypal and Amex. I have neither PP account nor Amex card. Hell, I don't have a post office account.
[12:17:33] <TLA> everything I do to do with money is done in cash
[12:17:45] <n1> i get a lot of good ones on some public email accounts for work
[12:17:51] <n1> 'invoice waiting to be paid'
[12:17:58] <n1> stuff like that, which does a very good job of looking legit
[12:18:05] <n1> if i had employees checking emails, i'm sure they'd be right on them
[12:18:32] <n1> TLA, thats quite impressive to manage that
[12:19:14] <n1> not excited about using contactless payments on your debit or credit card? ;)
[12:19:41] <n1> my business debit card has contactless, i think thats a load of shit.
[12:20:23] <n1> and the cc does too
[12:25:23] <TLA> I hardly ever have money in my pocket, I actually manage to live quite comfortably without a pocket full of jangly.
[12:25:45] <n1> coins wont get you far these days
[12:26:07] <n1> and around here, not even on a bus
[12:27:20] <TLA> having the ages-proven hunting skills of my ancestors helps things a lot, I even take enough rabbits to trade with the local butcher who fetches me a couple bags of fruit and veg in trade, it's a great arrangement
[12:28:48] <TLA> the day war be declared, by the time the dust settles I'll be king of the cockroaches.
[12:28:54] <n1> lol
[12:28:55] <ciri> now that is funny
[12:28:57] <n1> i like your style
[12:29:01] <n1> stfuciricunt
[12:30:48] <n1> http://abcnews.go.com
[12:30:49] <pants--> ^ 03EXCLUSIVE: Undercover DHS Tests Find Security Failures at US Airports - ABC News
[12:31:04] <n1> "TSA agents failed 67 out of 70 tests, with Red Team members repeatedly able to get potential weapons through checkpoints. "
[12:34:57] <TLA> :)
[12:35:09] <n1> MOAR SECURITY NECESSARY
[12:35:30] <TLA> think I saw that one break somewhere else, TSA epic fail, huh?
[12:35:37] <n1> not at all
[12:35:43] <n1> just proves how poorly funded they are
[12:35:56] <n1> and dont have access to the latest terrorist fighting equipment and systems
[12:37:28] <TLA> what, full-body XRay machines not enough??
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[12:38:07] <n1> it is quite undignified
[12:38:09] <TLA> though that said, if I can hold it in my hand I'm pretty sure I could find a way to weaponise it.
[12:38:28] <n1> i got the pleasure of being body scanned
[12:38:43] <janrinok> hi guys
[12:38:44] <ciri> hello janrinok
[12:38:48] <n1> hey there janrinok
[12:39:02] <TLA> hope you got the hardcopy. Giggity.
[12:39:12] <janrinok> I did, TLA, thx
[12:39:28] <TLA> :) mornin', you.
[12:39:48] <janrinok> everything good in the world?
[12:40:00] <janrinok> site seems back to normal
[12:40:05] <n1> just passing comment on: http://abcnews.go.com
[12:40:08] <TLA> yeah, I'm not king of the cockroaches yet so nobody pressed the BRB.
[12:40:37] <n1> 'king of the cockroaches' is such a good title
[12:41:20] <TLA> hmmm... where's my SN profile...?
[12:42:03] <n1> everything good with you, janrinok?
[12:42:11] <n1> or, as good as can be expected?
[12:42:16] <janrinok> yes, I think so, thx
[12:42:21] <TLA> >:]
[12:42:52] * n1 thinks lidl is calling him
[12:43:05] <janrinok> lol - what is it going to be this time?
[12:43:06] <TLA> yeah we had a hiccup earlier with the site cache that bled through clientside, but I think that's smoothed itself out
[12:44:05] <janrinok> TLA: how did that manifest itself - I wouldn't know it if I saw it?
[12:44:54] <n1> well, it's italian week at lidl
[12:46:13] <janrinok> that sounds a bit 'pizza and a bottle of Lambruso' to me
[12:46:37] <n1> so maybe some parma ham and panna cotta
[12:46:45] * janrinok is not very cultured it seems
[12:47:07] <n1> tiramisu is also a favorite
[12:47:17] <n1> well, to be fair i will probably get pizza too
[12:47:17] <janrinok> ah, we agree on that
[12:47:25] <n1> but i was going to do that anyways
[12:48:28] <n1> right, going to do it before i starve to death...
[12:48:35] <n1> ok, maybe im not going to starve
[12:48:42] <TLA> janrinok: specific to the Dice story: the comments wouldn't load until four or five goes with the refresh button
[12:48:47] <janrinok> you might - don't take risks
[12:49:19] <janrinok> TLA: was that a hard refresh?
[12:50:08] <TLA> ended up being a hard refresh, yes
[12:50:59] <janrinok> not seen that one today - although have seen it once or twice in the past. It has proven to be, on at least one occasion, my browser rather than the site. YMMV
[12:51:06] <TLA> whoa
[12:51:16] <TLA> OK The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, slash@dev.soylentnews.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[12:51:38] <TLA> screenshot?
[12:52:29] <TLA> first time I've seen that one
[12:53:38] <isostatic> Quite common today :)
[12:55:29] <janrinok> yes, I've seen that one a couple of times over the last few days. It is hard to say whether it is one of the bugs already being investigated or being caused by something that we have not seen before.
[12:55:49] <janrinok> Not sure how you would report it
[12:56:18] <TLA> about the only thing I've blocked apart from ads (with uBlock Origin) is third party cookies and offdomain scripts
[12:56:27] <janrinok> you could always switch to #dev and ask paulej72 if he is aware of it
[12:57:07] <janrinok> I've got noscript and adblock running - but I always have that configuration - so I don't think it is related
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[13:27:05] <CoolHand> I saw it earlier too
[13:27:13] <CoolHand> refreshed and it was ok
[13:27:56] <CoolHand> ..and I just got it again my first page click..
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[14:06:02] <Gravis> the RSS feed is generating bad links
[14:06:27] <janrinok> thanks Gravis - I'll pass it on
[14:06:57] <Gravis> http://soylentnews.org - <rdf:li rdf:resource="//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/06/01/2255221&from=rss" />
[14:06:58] <pants--> ^ 03SoylentNews
[14:09:08] <Gravis> i'm pretty sure this is the start of the north korean cyberwar of doom which is going to decimate our country. :P
[14:10:12] <janrinok> :o
[14:11:12] <n1> north koean hackers have the ability to kill, chinese hackers have the ability to steal industrial and government secrets, russian hackers have the ability to steal personal information
[14:11:15] <n1> imagine if they all got together...
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[14:13:57] <janrinok> Gravis: I can't find any links that are corrupted.
[14:14:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Buying Altera for $16.7B - http://sylnt.us - big-business
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[16:16:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russian Planes Make Passes at US Warship in Black Sea - http://sylnt.us - my-dad-can-beat-your-dad
[16:21:06] * n1 ponders playing some games
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[18:14:27] <TLA> evenin'
[18:17:18] <everdred> aftern'
[18:17:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Leak of Chlorine Gas at Apple Data Center - http://sylnt.us - was-that-you?
[18:38:13] <chromas> You're supposed to take the sticker off the apple before eating it. Stickers give you gas
[18:41:23] <n1> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[18:43:58] <TLA> touché
[18:45:05] <n1> have been waiting for this day, if Bethesda cop out and announce some other bullshit
[18:45:10] <n1> they can go fuck themselves
[18:45:16] <TLA> mosty obvious use for chlorine in a data center: chlorinated fire retardent system, AKA halon. Yes, you can use bromine-based fire retardent as well, but chlorine is cheaper.
[18:45:29] <TLA> *most
[18:46:49] <n1> doubt this chlorine leak will come to anything
[18:46:56] <n1> has the true cause actually been announced yet
[18:47:14] <n1> or is that coming in 2025 after some lawsuits?
[18:51:08] <TLA> from the sounds of it, seems the fire system sprang a leak while undergoing maintenance
[18:51:12] <n1> and on the fallout thing, el reg can fuck off 'The release will be the first update to the Fallout franchise from Bethesda since the 2008 release of Fallout 3.'
[18:51:32] <n1> because FO:NV in 2010 didnt happen apparently
[18:51:41] <TLA> hehe
[18:51:47] <n1> seriously, what has happened to The Register
[18:52:36] <TLA> they skellyjumped with Fox News and begat Slashdot.
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[18:53:08] <TLA> bit of the old in-out with the White House Press Oddice
[18:53:12] <TLA> Office
[18:53:17] <TLA> hate typing in the dark
[18:53:52] <n1> the last few weeks/months, nearly everything i've read there is complete shit
[18:58:25] <TLA> I've just had a glance at hte front page, it's all opinion [ieces. Where's teh news??
[18:58:38] <TLA> ffs, my fingers are knackered today
[19:00:01] <chromas> http://www.nytimes.com
[19:00:01] <pants--> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[19:00:32] <chromas> "From a nondescript office building in St. Petersburg, Russia, an army of well-paid “trolls” has tried to wreak havoc all around the Internet — and in real-life American communities."
[19:00:45] * chromas wonders about the date in that url
[19:01:01] <n1> is worth noting a large shareholder of the ltd company that publishes el reg is based in the cayman islands
[19:01:21] <n1> so the actual controlling interests, beyond the advertisers for el reg are, as far as i can tell, unknown
[19:01:59] <paulej72> it's owned by Dice :P
[19:02:03] <n1> takes me to a login page, chromas
[19:02:08] <n1> but i did see that story elsewhere
[19:02:18] <chromas> weird
[19:02:32] <chromas> I don't have a subscription or even account or anything there
[19:02:35] <n1> i wasn't sure if i cared about feeding the anti-russia machine anymore, at least not enough to submit it
[19:02:59] <chromas> Maybe they use js to redirect
[19:02:59] <n1> http://www.nytimes.com
[19:03:00] <pants--> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[19:03:11] <n1> i went there via google and it worked
[19:06:40] <paulej72> tldr
[19:07:37] <n1> paulej72, i skimmed it, was tedious at best
[19:07:49] <n1> far more interesting was the person who wrote the article
[19:08:02] <n1> " In September 2012, Chen acquiesced to demands from Anonymous and posted images of himself dressed in a tutu with a shoe perched on his head. The images had been demanded in exchange for interviews regarding an alleged leak of Apple iPhone and iPad user data from an FBI laptop."
[19:08:11] <paulej72> I would have been nice if there was a point at the begining of the article.
[19:08:29] <n1> the point is 'russian government is using social media for propaganda'
[19:08:31] <n1> stop the presses
[19:09:20] <paulej72> it starts off like a murder mestery
[19:10:00] <n1> i think thats being kind
[19:10:10] * chromas calls in Scooby and the gang
[19:10:42] <n1> need a version of cluedo/clue with Putin in it
[19:10:43] <paulej72> at least Scooby gets to the point within a few minutes
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[19:11:22] <n1> cluedo: diplomacy edition
[19:13:04] <paulej72> http://hardware.slashdot.org
[19:13:05] <pants--> ^ 03Intel Adopts USB-C Connector For 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3, Supports USB 3.1, DP 1.2 - Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org )
[19:13:33] <TLA> hm
[19:13:38] <TLA> the butler did it.
[19:15:05] * n1 wonders what the bad news is to that USB/thunderbolt story
[19:17:59] <TLA> yet another new connector standard
[19:19:32] <chromas> Infection-by-charger
[19:22:04] <TLA> how is something with a tenth the track width of a usb3.1 typa A going to handle twenty times the current again?
[19:22:05] <ciri> not sure
[19:24:58] <n1> thats what $50 cables are for...
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[19:25:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> eh?
[19:26:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> they're not running USB 3.1 signals/power through a ThunderBolt (mini-DisplayPort) connector.
[19:26:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> they're running ThunderBolt signals through a USB 3.1 connector.
[19:28:02] <n1> its a very small connector
[19:28:25] <n1> the USB-C
[19:28:41] <n1> http://images.anandtech.com
[19:31:15] <n1> 'USB Type-C devices also support power currents of 1.5 A and 3.0 A over the 5 V power bus in addition to baseline 900 mA'
[19:32:47] <n1> from the /. summary: '100W of power (in compliance with the USB Power Delivery spec) to charge devices via USB-C'
[19:33:10] <n1> now i am stupid but this doesnt seem to add up
[19:34:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was just saying that TLA's concern was unwarranted. Not that there aren't issues with the design USB-C spec. Which I haven't looked into deeply because I haven't even *considered* buying any new devices that would benefit from USB 3.0 or 3.1 speeds yet.
[19:35:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> 100W at 5V is.....20A? Yeah, Google agrees with that.
[19:35:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> That's a LOT of DC current to run through a small cable.
[19:35:53] <n1> thats the concern i think TLA was pointing out
[19:38:50] <TLA> according to LCom a 28AWG wire is *rated* at 1500mA/5V. 28AWG is the nominal gauge for a jump cable (off a motherboard to a jackplate).
[19:42:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah, I don't where they got that from. AFAIK, USB specifies max of 1.5A and ThunderBolt specifies max of 900mA.
[19:45:20] <TLA> to carry 100W the conductor would need to be 2.1mm^2 cross-sectional area. Translated to a board track, that'd be 1mm thick and 4mm wide
[19:49:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Exploit Leaves Most Macs Vulnerable to Permanent Backdooring - http://sylnt.us - no-such-thing-as-a-secure-computer
[19:50:03] <TLA> in fact, at 20A a 28ga wire would fuse (melt) in about 0.4 seconds.
[19:51:38] <n1> http://cdn.arstechnica.net
[19:51:58] <n1> so what does 100W charging 15W power mean, in that handy little graphic
[19:52:17] <n1> 15w device even
[19:53:55] <n1> ok
[19:54:00] <n1> "Devices can request higher currents and supply voltages from compliant hosts – up to 2 A at 5 V (for a power consumption of up to 10 W), and optionally up to 3 A or 5 A at either 12 V (36 W or 60 W) or 20 V (60 W or 100 W)"
[19:54:21] <n1> so it's 100W at 20V
[19:55:19] <n1> 5A
[19:59:14] <TLA> it's still 100W, and that's still a valid number to consider as 5V/20A gives you the same. A 28AWG wire will melt if it's 20V/5A, 10V/10A, 5V/20A or 0.5V at 200A.
[20:10:34] <n1> well, they must have figured some shit out
[20:10:42] <n1> as it's in the standards for USB Power Delivery
[20:10:51] <n1> not just some bullshit intel has come up with for this press release
[20:12:00] <n1> pizza time :D
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[20:22:49] <n1> http://www.afr.com
[20:22:50] <pants--> ^ 03WikiLeaks offers $US100,000 bounty for copy of TPP trade document | afr.com
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[20:36:27] <n1> http://www.theguardian.com
[20:36:29] <pants--> ^ 03NSA reform: USA Freedom Act passes as first surveillance reform in decade – live | US news | The Guardian
[20:36:42] <n1> FREEDOM!
[20:36:44] <n1> WOOOOO!
[20:50:45] <paulej72> Good news, we found out we had one ish bad db query that was causing the slowdowns on the site. fix will be applied shotly
[20:53:07] <n1> paulej72++
[20:53:07] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 166
[21:17:51] <paulej72> patches applied
[21:20:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Senate Passes USA Freedom Act - http://sylnt.us
[21:20:48] <takyon> Deputy legal director Jameel Jaffer of the ACLU, which did not back the USA Freedom Act, has nonetheless described the bill as “a milestone”.
[21:21:18] <n1> Jaffer trying to get himself a new job
[21:29:01] <chromas> Seems weird the slash bugs weren't trouble before. Were they taking advantage of 'features' of ancient mysql/perl/apache that aren't relevant anymore?
[21:37:43] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[21:37:45] <pants--> ^ 03Fifa's Sepp Blatter 'under investigation in US' - BBC News
[21:37:53] <takyon> Fifa president Sepp Blatter is being investigated by US officials as part of their inquiry into corruption at the world football body, US media say. The news came hours after Mr Blatter announced that he was stepping down from his role.
[21:39:21] <NCommander> Site speed up is ... drastic
[21:39:24] <NCommander> JHC
[21:39:27] <NCommander> *JFC
[21:40:24] <chromas> speedy
[21:40:32] <chromas> NCommander++
[21:40:32] <chromas> paulej72++
[21:40:32] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 84
[21:40:32] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 167
[21:47:26] <takyon> is there a story behind the meta icon
[21:47:36] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
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[22:00:53] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:00:53] <pants--> Karma - coffee: 279
[22:00:53] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:00:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1399
[22:02:52] <crutchy> freedom act must have passed cos i can hear the 'clink clink click' of the coin dropping into the campaign funds of all the establishment stooges running for potus in '16
[22:03:21] <crutchy> from the other side of the world
[22:05:02] <crutchy> big government is like a refrigerator...
[22:05:11] <crutchy> no wait. big government is like a beer
[22:05:23] <crutchy> nope. big government is like a slow cooker
[22:05:55] <crutchy> ;socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[22:05:55] <MrPlow> TheMightyBuzzard, you're a socialist!
[22:07:29] <crutchy> http://www.reuters.com
[22:07:29] <pants--> ^ 03Bill to limit domestic spy programs passes U.S. Congress| Reuters
[22:08:17] <crutchy> funny. i was under the impression that it was more limited before they passed it. doesn't the 'freedum' act restore powers to the NSA spying programs?
[22:11:28] <n1> officially no
[22:11:48] <n1> but it gives them 6 months 'transition' time away from bulk collection
[22:12:48] <n1> but im sure theres far more nuance and complexity to it than that
[22:13:29] <n1> "The NSA, facing legal uncertainty after the Senate failed to pass the bill last month, shut down the bulk collection of US phone records at 8pm Sunday 31 May. But since the bill calls for a grace period of six months to “transition” the program so the phone companies remain the repositories of metadata they generate, the dragnet is now set to relaunch just to be shut down again in December."
[22:13:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/6 months 'transition' time away from/6 months 'transition' time to come up with a new legal excuse for/
[22:14:55] <n1> ". Critics assert that mass surveillance of the content of Americans' communication will continue under Section 702 of FISA[7][8] and Executive Order 12333[7][9] due to the "unstoppable surveillance-industrial complex"[10] despite the fact that a bipartisan majority of the House had previously voted to close backdoor mass surveillance.[5]"
[22:14:58] <n1> says wikipedia
[22:15:11] <crutchy> i thought when rand paul forced the expiry of the patriot act it was legally (even if not practically) dead in the water?
[22:15:55] <n1> that was the patriot act
[22:15:57] <n1> this is the freedom act
[22:16:00] <n1> keep up ;)
[22:16:06] <n1> http://thomas.loc.gov
[22:16:06] <pants--> ^ 03Bill Text - 113th Congress (2013-2014) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
[22:16:29] <crutchy> i know, but the freedom act grants powers that were previously expired, no?
[22:16:38] <SirFinkus> it just moves the servers
[22:16:43] <crutchy> hehe
[22:16:44] <SirFinkus> business as usuall
[22:17:06] <n1> crutchy, according to the spin it does the opposite
[22:17:13] <n1> it removes some powers and adds 'checks and balances'
[22:17:25] <crutchy> so the patriot act never expired?
[22:17:37] <n1> no, it did expire
[22:17:37] * SirFinkus recalls something about checks and balances being in the constitution
[22:17:44] <n1> but the freedom act apparently restarts it
[22:17:49] <n1> to decomission it in 6months
[22:17:59] <crutchy> what powers could have been 'removed' by the freedom act that weren't already expired then?
[22:18:01] * SirFinkus also remembers something about search and seizure requiring a warrant
[22:18:05] <n1> because the freedom act only works if the patriot act, or programs authorized by it
[22:18:08] <n1> exist
[22:18:15] <n1> as is my idiots understanding
[22:18:30] <crutchy> SirFinkus, that's so 17th century man
[22:18:34] <SirFinkus> I'm not a constitutional scholar though, so I'm probably reading it wrong
[22:18:38] <SirFinkus> *18th
[22:18:48] <crutchy> err. yeah prolly :p
[22:18:49] <n1> http://www.gpo.gov
[22:18:53] <n1> if anyone wanrs to read it
[22:19:04] <n1> and has a chance of understanding the actual consequences
[22:19:05] <SirFinkus> the better a bill sounds, the worse it is usually
[22:19:10] <crutchy> damn 1700's being the 18th century. wtf is with that
[22:19:18] <SirFinkus> think about it
[22:19:25] <SirFinkus> we start at 0
[22:19:34] <SirFinkus> so 0-100 would be the 1st centure
[22:19:49] * crutchy blames turbo pascal for zero indexing
[22:20:12] <SirFinkus> There are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors.
[22:20:21] <crutchy> bugger. gotta goto workipoos :(
[22:20:28] <crutchy> ciao
[22:20:40] <SirFinkus> oh good, we can speak freely now
[22:21:03] <n1> " The Attorney General shall ensure that appro-priate policies and procedures are in place to safeguard nonpublicly available information concerning United States persons that is collected through the use of a pen register or trap and trace device installed under this sec-tion. Such policies and procedures shall, to the maximum extent practicable and consistent with the need to protect
[22:21:03] <n1> national security, include protections for the collection, re- tention, and use of information concerning United States persons.’’ "
[22:22:45] <n1> it's not easy reading
[22:22:56] <n1> thats the most straight forward bit ive found
[22:23:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> legalese is a separate language from English.
[22:23:29] <n1> if anyone can read page 22 and explain it for me, would be appreciated
[22:23:38] <n1> it seems important
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[22:33:47] <Cyprus> i'm just waiting for foxnews to summarize it so i can know what's not true
[22:34:05] <Cyprus> to much to process by hand
[22:36:35] <n1> foxnews homepage is far more interested in scary ISIS right now
[22:36:38] <n1> "CAPTURED ISIS WEAPONS show the black-clad militants are developing an arsenal of sophisticated arms, including a remote-controlled sniper rifle, and Kurdish fighters told FoxNews.com they fear the terrorist force's expanding manufacturing capability is making it more formidable by the day."
[22:38:28] <Cyprus> i want a remote controlled sniper rifle =/
[22:38:59] <n1> from the picture to go with the article, sophisticated seems like a push
[22:39:50] <n1> http://a57.foxnews.com
[22:41:55] <n1> also pretty sure thats not a sniper rifle, but i dont know shit about guns
[22:43:51] <paulej72> actually that is faily sophisticated. It has pitch and yaw, and fire control. I guess there is a camera for aming as well
[22:44:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> news writers (and editors) are fond of hyperbole
[22:44:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> it makes for better headlines
[22:45:05] <n1> paulej72, yeah to a point
[22:45:11] <paulej72> and for this type of weapon you would want a semi-auto. most good sniper rifles are bolt action. fairly hard to make a robot reload a bolt action.
[22:45:17] <n1> but compared to any run of the mill showing of 'new weapons tech for the US army'
[22:45:25] <n1> it's still a DIY job
[22:45:37] <paulej72> yep dyi for sure
[22:45:58] <n1> AndyTheAbsurd, is indeed right
[22:46:09] <n1> it makes for a better headline and creates some emotion in the right people
[22:46:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think it'd be pretty easy to make a robot chamber another round in a bolt action as long as you didn't mind it being very slow.
[22:46:35] <n1> the various drones NATO is using are sophisticated im sure
[22:46:40] <n1> this is not in that league
[22:46:41] <paulej72> far easier just to use a semi auto
[22:46:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> yes, that's true.
[22:47:46] <n1> "NSA officials, including former director Keith Alexander, have long said they had no problem with ending their collection of phone records, as long as they can continue to search the data held by the companies, which the legislation allows them to do.
[22:47:46] <n1> The USA Freedom Act also doesn't address the vast majority of Snowden revelations, which concern NSA mass surveillance of global internet traffic that often sweeps in American communication. "
[22:48:14] <paulej72> they should make something like this for snipers, it would allow better aming as they would not need to hold the gun. just site it down with the hand held
[22:49:09] <n1> http://www.wired.com
[22:49:10] <pants--> ^ 03Robo-Snipers, "Auto Kill Zones" to Protect Israeli Borders | WIRED
[22:49:17] <n1> from 2007
[22:49:46] <n1> http://www.thefirearmblog.com
[22:49:47] <pants--> ^ 03Precision Remotes TRAP T192 Remote Sniper Kit - The Firearm Blog
[22:49:49] <n1> from 2013
[22:50:11] <paulej72> 50 cals are some serious sniper hardware
[22:50:27] <n1> "A soldier can set up the T192 and control it from up to 300 meters away. This allows the soldier to remain in a position of relative safety while engaging the enemy. A variety of weapons can be used with this unit including the M82, M240 and M249."
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[22:55:59] <n1> and in other news
[22:56:06] <n1> "The United States has accused the Syrian military of carrying out air strikes to help Islamic State fighters advance around the northern city of Aleppo, messages posted on the U.S. Embassy Syria official Twitter feed said."
[22:58:40] <NCommander> I'm exhausted/ Again
[22:59:07] <n1> go relax, for a walk or something?
[23:00:05] <paulej72> NCommander: I am too, and I need to food soon too
[23:01:08] <paulej72> bbiab
[23:01:22] <n1> NCommander++
[23:01:22] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 85
[23:01:24] <n1> paulej72++
[23:01:24] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 168
[23:04:12] * NCommander goes to the store
[23:20:31] <chromas> spammers're gettin 'lazy: http://paste.ofcode.org
[23:20:31] <pants--> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[23:24:56] <n1> spammers dont want to get a copyright takedown notice, jingle bells is in the public domain right?
[23:25:53] <chromas> lol
[23:26:07] <chromas> but they forgot to put in a link or plug for something
[23:33:07] <n1> tactic to avoid spam filters?
[23:33:12] <n1> send clean emails for a while
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[23:49:08] * NCommander is hope
[23:49:11] <NCommander> *home
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[23:57:54] <paulej72> NCommander: any idea why doing runtasks on helium take a really long time. open_backen.pl takes 80 secons, instead of 1 or so