#Soylent | Logs for 2015-06-01

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[00:00:10] * NCommander offlines SN
[00:00:15] <LaDarius> Godspeed, NCommander!
[00:00:22] <paulej72> in case of emergency break glass
[00:00:28] * takyon refreshes the homepage every second
[00:00:37] * NCommander repoints the site to status.soylentnews.org
[00:00:59] * takyon sends a 4 GB IPv6 packet
[00:01:41] <SirFinkus> OMG SITE IS DOWN
[00:02:01] <SpallsHurgenson> thats it, I'm headin' back to slashdot :)
[00:02:10] * chromas blames Khyber
[00:03:11] <LaDarius> chromas, you jus' cant f*** wit' 64GB/s bandwith DDoS attacks controlled with Visual Basic GUIs
[00:03:44] <chromas> He's got you beat with 400TB/s
[00:03:52] <LaDarius> dayum.
[00:03:59] <chromas> and a handful of LEDs
[00:04:20] <NCommander> Database dump in progress
[00:05:08] <NCommander> .op
[00:05:08] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o NCommander] by Imogen
[00:05:15] NCommander changed topic of #Soylent to: SITE UPGRADE IN PROGRESS | SN Main Channel - be respectful of others | https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publically displayed
[00:05:22] * LaDarius logs on to IP Tables, mans battle stations, redirects packets, stealths ports.
[00:09:40] <K_benzoate1> not pf?
[00:10:05] <K_benzoate1> The superior choice
[00:10:25] <chromas> nah, 'cause bsd don't got the systemd
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[00:12:09] * NCommander is working through the DB
[00:12:37] <chromas> is it big?
[00:13:07] <chromas> or does it need a LaDarius extender?
[00:13:26] * LaDarius is waiting for NCommander to say, "fully functional"
[00:14:07] <LaDarius> NCommander and Pauley are like Mandingos. They don't need the cheat codes as mere mortals like I do.
[00:14:15] * cmn32480 thinks LaDarius is gonna be waiting a long, long time!
[00:14:25] * chromas is waiting for LaDarius to create an Ethanol-fueled bot
[00:14:35] <NCommander> Now comes to annoying part
[00:14:43] * NCommander starts importing the DB into mysql cluster
[00:14:59] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm sure it will go fine :)
[00:15:39] * chromas grabs a cart, puts on a har
[00:15:40] <chromas> t
[00:15:50] <chromas> Pitchforks! Get yer pitchforks!
[00:15:51] <SpallsHurgenson> why are you wearing a hart?
[00:15:57] <NCommander> neon is down
[00:16:00] <NCommander> progress
[00:16:07] <cmn32480> pitchforks++
[00:16:07] <Bender> karma - pitchforks: 1
[00:16:08] <chromas> I hart in your general direction
[00:16:58] <takyon> http://www.marketwatch.com
[00:17:00] <pants--> ^ 03Is Uber a friend or foe of Carnegie Mellon in robotics? - MarketWatch
[00:17:06] <cmn32480> chromas - I call torches!
[00:17:10] <SpallsHurgenson> deer make for poor headpieces, this I learned a few years ago
[00:18:59] <cmn32480> the antlers get all pokey
[00:19:23] <BadCoderFinger> Place a light behind the eyeholes and suddenly the Texans seem a tad smarter.
[00:19:39] <chromas> Are you sure?
[00:19:39] <LaDarius> Texans, smart?
[00:19:56] <BadCoderFinger> I didn't say where the bar started...
[00:20:00] <NCommander> /me ran into a snag
[00:20:01] <NCommander> ugh
[00:20:01] <cmn32480> just don't wear it in the woods during hunting season... unless you ahve a death wish.
[00:20:37] <BadCoderFinger> Where I grew up, if they could tack horns on it within 15 minutes it counted as a legal kill.
[00:21:05] * LaDarius buys some doe piss online
[00:21:17] <LaDarius> For, uh, "hunting." Yeah, that's it..."Hunting."
[00:22:00] <paulej72> NCommander: bad snag?
[00:23:40] <NCommander> paulej72, no, I just realized I misconfigured helium's mysqld instance
[00:23:50] <paulej72> k
[00:24:00] <NCommander> paulej72, the mysql database isn't replicated, each mysqld needs to have its DB initialized
[00:24:12] <takyon> http://www.c-span.org
[00:24:14] <pants--> ^ 03US Senate Debate NSA Surveillance | Video | C-SPAN.org
[00:24:44] <BadCoderFinger> Holy crap, I just realized the bot has been renamed pants--, that wins!
[00:26:30] <chromas> ~last nick=TheMightyBuzzard out=irc-full
[00:26:35] <exec> 03[2015-05-12 10:12:5] #Soylent <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[00:27:07] <chromas> ~last channel= nick=tama
[00:27:20] <exec> 03<tama> there is no justice in riding a toaster
[00:30:22] <NCommander> Ok, that hiccup been handled
[00:30:30] * NCommander confirmed replication is working properly \o/
[00:31:13] <paulej72> NCommander: are we replicating between helium and lithium?
[00:31:27] <NCommander> paulej72, helium and neon, I killed the ndbd instance on lithium awhile ago
[00:31:35] <paulej72> cool
[00:31:46] <NCommander> Once we're done with the database the sites back up
[00:31:50] <NCommander> I'm going to offline neon and upgrade it
[00:32:03] <NCommander> I'm waiting for the SN database to populate
[00:32:42] <paulej72> you are late to the pary Bytram
[00:34:06] <NCommander> Import complete
[00:34:09] <NCommander> \o/
[00:34:46] <paulej72> have you doble checked the my.cfn file settings
[00:35:34] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I'm sure it works. go live immediately and delete all the old backups :)
[00:36:10] <paulej72> NCommander: are we going to start up with Hydrogen. Should I switch the nodebalancer to there?
[00:36:23] * NCommander swears
[00:36:29] <takyon> https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:36:30] <NCommander> paulej72, the site is still varnish cached
[00:36:32] <pants--> ^ 03Wiki: Ipilimumab
[00:36:36] * NCommander has to redo the DB import
[00:36:49] <paulej72> :(
[00:36:55] <takyon> Formula C6742 H9972 N1732 O2004 S40
[00:37:12] <takyon> Molecular mass
[00:37:12] <takyon> = 148634.914 g/mol
[00:38:11] <NCommander> Let's try this again
[00:38:19] <NCommander> paulej72, I set the NDB flag wrong on schema create
[00:38:24] <NCommander> Its NDBCLUSTER, not NDBENGINE >.<;
[00:39:51] <NCommander> I really hate the fisher price database
[00:40:03] <Bytram> paulej72: just got home!
[00:40:08] <NCommander> ERROR 1296 (HY000) at line 714: Got error 708 'No more attribute metadata records (increase MaxNoOfAttributes)' from NDBCLUSTER
[00:40:13] * NCommander swears more and goes to fix that
[00:40:18] <Bytram> did you guys see that I submitted some more bugs this AM?
[00:40:50] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[00:40:51] <paulej72> yes and the bulk were fixed
[00:40:54] <pants--> ^ 03Fifa crisis: South Africa 'admits $10m football payout' - BBC News
[00:40:56] <Bytram> nod nod
[00:41:19] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, the NFL is gonna be pissed :)
[00:41:27] * NCommander has to do a rolling restart of the cluster
[00:41:28] <Bytram> paulej72: the main one I was concerned with was being unable, after creating a new acct, to actually log in with the provided pwd; is that fixed?
[00:41:30] <NCommander> This takes forever
[00:41:33] <NCommander> Bytram, yeah, it is
[00:41:38] <Bytram> KEWEL!
[00:41:41] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, anyone notice the website seems to be down? :)
[00:41:42] <Bytram> team++
[00:41:42] <Bender> karma - team: 5
[00:41:48] <NCommander> SpallsHurgenson, site upgrade in progress
[00:41:51] <NCommander> This is an extended downtime
[00:41:54] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: you're looking at it wrong!
[00:41:55] <paulej72> we are blaming that one on TheMightyBuzzard
[00:42:03] <Bytram> !uid
[00:42:03] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[00:42:10] * NCommander is waiting for the cluster to finish a rolling restart
[00:42:14] <paulej72> bender restarted
[00:42:18] <Bytram> nod nod
[00:42:21] <paulej72> run it again
[00:42:30] <Bytram> !uid
[00:42:30] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[00:42:33] <NCommander> paulej72, I have to wait for ndbd to restart on each node
[00:42:37] <paulej72> !uid
[00:42:37] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[00:42:40] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard's gone; you can blame everything on him :)
[00:42:53] <paulej72> oh no website :P
[00:42:58] <Bytram> where DID he go, anyway?
[00:43:08] <paulej72> cant get live data from missig site
[00:43:13] <NCommander> I haven't seen him since before I biked to Buffalo
[00:43:15] * Bytram hasn't see him in about a month - hope he's all right!
[00:43:47] <Bytram> paulej72: I see you've improvised with dead data, rather than providing an error message that the site is donw!
[00:43:53] <paulej72> i think i have a bug in my code that saves the uid to a local file
[00:44:12] * NCommander waits for neon to finish ndb restart
[00:44:21] <paulej72> that was NCommander, he is in charge of the update
[00:44:31] * NCommander has never touched bender >.>;
[00:45:02] <BadCoderFinger> Well, never touched appropriately.
[00:45:03] <chromas> that's not what he told Teacher
[00:45:17] <BadCoderFinger> Heh! Chromas beat me.
[00:46:13] <paulej72> Bytram: i thought you were taling about the site. Bender should be updating the file with that info when it loads new data, but it seems like it is not updating it
[00:46:46] <Bytram> FWIW, the last time I checked we were at UID=5284 with nick=SnorkleZ
[00:46:55] <LaDarius> I taled about the site once. Then I wondered what the hell I was doing at all. I don't know shit about computers.
[00:47:19] <LaDarius> But I do know that chewbacca plays keys awesomely.
[00:47:26] <LaDarius> https://www.youtube.com
[00:47:28] <pants--> ^ 03Yessongs (1973) Part 6- Rick Wakeman Solo - YouTube
[00:48:08] <LaDarius> .kick LaDarius
[00:50:10] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[00:50:26] <BadCoderFinger> There's something poetic in not being able to kick yourself.
[00:51:01] <LaDarius> The one time I wanted to, and the bot that had the ability to do so malfunctioned.
[00:51:28] <Bytram> paulej72: Actually, I *was* talking about the site; if Bender cannot get a connection and a valid result, it should prolly report *that* and then give the last-known-good values.
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[00:52:56] <paulej72> Bytram: it was susposed to do that, but it is not
[00:53:05] <SpallsHurgenson> the sky keeps burping loudly and drooling; is that normal?
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[00:53:50] <Bytram> paulej72: ahhh, now I get it... reminds me that I've got a prog that checks for that info -- I bet it doesn't handle downtime well, either. :(
[00:55:05] <NCommander> Sorry this is taking so long
[00:55:20] <NCommander> A tuning attribute with NDBENGINE keeps having to be changed, and it doesn't happen until part way into the import
[00:55:34] <SpallsHurgenson> this downtime is intolerable! I demand my money back!
[00:55:36] <NCommander> which requires me to nuke the import, drop the database and try again
[00:56:06] <NCommander> with luck, this will be the last cluster config change I need to make
[00:56:16] * BadCoderFinger mails Spalls a check fo $0
[00:56:34] * BadCoderFinger also includes a pair of pants.
[00:56:34] <SpallsHurgenson> not acceptable! I demand at least twice that amount!
[00:56:46] <Bytram> hmmm, my tool's output was a bit ugly, but it did note a 503 Service Unavailable and then terimnated, without trashing the data gathered so far.
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[01:01:23] <paulej72> !uid
[01:01:23] <Bender> The site is down and data is not available.
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[01:02:04] <Bytram> paulej72 much better!
[01:02:49] <paulej72> but it should should be loading and saving data to a file, but it has not for a while
[01:04:05] * NCommander exhales and smokes a cigarette
[01:04:24] <Bytram> so, it's reading the last-written data, but fails to keep the data up-to-date each time it finds a new value?
[01:05:23] <Subsentient> So SN is down
[01:05:29] <Subsentient> 503 service unavailable
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[01:06:37] <Subsentient> NCommander: TheMightyBuzzard http://uploadpie.com
[01:08:36] <cmn32480> upgrade in progress subsentient
[01:09:05] * NCommander is having a very bad time right now and NOT in a good mood
[01:09:09] <cmn32480> NCommander and Paulej72 are balming THeMightyBuzzard for all bugs and other issues related to the Rehash update currently in progress
[01:10:14] <Bytram> cmn32480: s/balming/blaming/
[01:10:14] <sedctl> <Bytram> <cmn32480> NCommander and Paulej72 are blaming THeMightyBuzzard for all bugs and other issues related to the Rehash update currently in progress
[01:10:39] <SpallsHurgenson> sounds fair
[01:10:45] <cmn32480> sheesh bytram... really? QAing my typing
[01:10:49] <NCommander> ok
[01:10:55] <NCommander> I think I managed to solve the cluster config issue
[01:11:20] <Subsentient> NCommander: https://www.youtube.com
[01:11:21] <pants--> ^ 03Evan's Unique Broadcast - Bruce Almighty (6/9) Movie CLIP (2003) HD - YouTube
[01:11:23] <Bytram> cmn32480: well, balming did have an interesting ring to it!
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[01:12:20] <cmn32480> they may be balming him as well as blaming him
[01:12:27] <takyon> https://www.eff.org
[01:12:29] <pants--> ^ 03Section 215 Expires—For Now | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[01:13:02] <Bytram> next up would be embalming?
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[01:13:48] <Landon> anyone here use LXD/LXC/whatever it's called?
[01:13:51] <Landon> for containers
[01:13:54] <cmn32480> I suppose.. though I'd like to think that isn't the case
[01:14:57] <NCommander> I have
[01:15:06] <SpallsHurgenson> embalming is only possible after completing abalming through elbalming
[01:15:31] <cmn32480> all of which require wearing pants spalls
[01:15:36] <paulej72> !uid
[01:15:36] <Bender> The site is down and data is not available.
[01:15:38] <Landon> NCommander: easiest to understand documentation is.... ? I'm trying to get mailinabox set up without just typing in voodoo >.<
[01:15:41] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... once again something that sounded funnier before I actually said it
[01:15:48] <Landon> quick google is just giving me promo pages
[01:15:48] <paulej72> !uid
[01:15:48] <Bender> The site is down and data is not available.
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[01:16:19] <NCommander> ERROR 1114 (HY000) at line 898: The table 'discussion_kinds' is full
[01:16:21] <NCommander> WTF?!
[01:16:22] <Landon> byebye bender
[01:16:29] <SpallsHurgenson> I think it would be helpful for everyone to keep pounding on the site just to see if its back up or not.
[01:16:40] <Leebert> Hey y'all. Did you know the site is down? *ducks*
[01:16:52] <Landon> Leebert: I'd check, but the site is down
[01:16:55] <SpallsHurgenson> do it, it's fun! get your friends, families and any botnets you know of involved!
[01:17:05] <Bytram> Leebert: well, if it's down, why don't you try to cheer it up? ;)
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[01:17:12] <paulej72> !uid
[01:17:21] <NCommander> Ok, I think I know what's wrong with it
[01:17:33] <paulej72> !uid
[01:17:41] <paulej72> !uid
[01:17:55] <Leebert> NCommander: The problem is that it's throwing 503 errors.
[01:17:59] <Leebert> You're welcome.
[01:18:49] <Bytram> Leebert: 503 errors... really? You counted all of them?
[01:19:01] <Landon> Bytram: just refreshed, 504
[01:19:05] <Landon> 505...
[01:19:06] <Bytram> LOL!
[01:19:09] <cmn32480> he had to take off his socks to get that high Bytram...
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[01:19:24] <cmn32480> I could smell it from here
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[01:19:33] * Bytram struggles to not spew his dinner onto keyboard
[01:19:35] <paulej72> !uid
[01:19:55] <paulej72> !uid
[01:20:11] <Landon> !koffie
[01:20:11] * Bender schenkt een kopje koffie wiener melange in voor Landon
[01:20:18] <Landon> dick spice?
[01:20:21] <paulej72> !uid
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[01:21:45] <paulej72> !uid
[01:21:46] <Bender> The site is down and data is not available.
[01:21:50] <Bytram> Landon: looks like it might be Dutch?
[01:23:38] * Leebert half expected to see some people starting on with "error++"
[01:24:03] * NCommander prays this works
[01:24:12] <NCommander> I'm close to abandoning the upgrade if I can't get this resolved soon
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[01:24:35] <SirFinkus> how goes the upgrade so far?
[01:24:35] <ciri> you talking to me?
[01:25:01] <chromas> the upgrade is ciri-ing
[01:25:02] <SpallsHurgenson> don't give up, just leave it as is until you are refreshed. maybe go on a week-long holiday first :)
[01:25:02] <cmn32480> wrong question to ask SirFinkus
[01:25:05] <SirFinkus> as if you'd know anything ciri
[01:25:12] <SirFinkus> oh damn
[01:25:23] <SirFinkus> well, I'm sure there are backups ;)
[01:25:34] <NCommander> SirFinkus, not great
[01:25:41] * NCommander is debating ordering a pizza
[01:25:49] <cmn32480> from what I understand, these gents have prepared Plan B.
[01:25:58] <Leebert> you could always set up a soylent subreddit, then play some mod_proxy magic to make people think the upgrade looks a lot like Reddit.
[01:26:04] <SirFinkus> lol
[01:26:05] <Leebert> NCommander: Can I order you a pizza?
[01:26:05] <ciri> now that is funny
[01:26:06] <SpallsHurgenson> backups are just tempting fate, telling it you expect something to go wrong.
[01:26:06] <Landon> http://reddit.com
[01:26:07] <Landon> ;)
[01:26:08] <Landon> ;)
[01:26:08] <pants--> ^ 03Soylent - a DIY fuel source for the human at large. ( http://www.reddit.com )
[01:26:17] <Landon> just put that as the downtime page
[01:26:35] <SpallsHurgenson> faith-based computing doesn't require backups; just BELIEVE it will work :)
[01:26:52] <SirFinkus> I don't need backups
[01:27:03] <SirFinkus> I've committed the contents of my hard drive to memory
[01:27:11] <chromas> cmn32480: that's not cool man. upgrade begins at conception
[01:27:13] <cmn32480> just don't turn off your computer
[01:27:17] <kuber> heh
[01:27:35] <SpallsHurgenson> me too! "00011100101010101011101000001010101010101110101010101111...
[01:27:51] <Leebert> SpallsHurgenson: watch your language, young man.
[01:28:00] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, or was it 00011100101010101010001000001010101010101110101010101111?
[01:28:07] <NCommander> Ok, primary issues resolved
[01:28:13] <NCommander> Database import now going underway
[01:28:18] <SirFinkus> see? I'm a good luck charm
[01:28:32] <SirFinkus> just curious, how big of a database are we talking
[01:28:53] <SpallsHurgenson> 3.5" x 2" x 5"
[01:29:01] <SpallsHurgenson> with a SATA plug :)
[01:29:19] <SirFinkus> how much does it weigh?
[01:29:20] <Leebert> where there's your problem. It should be a multiple of 3.5" x 2" x 5".
[01:29:20] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[01:29:26] <cmn32480> smaller than a breadbox full of hard disks SirFinkus
[01:29:55] <SirFinkus> it annoys me that when people give the weight of devices, they don't give you how much it weighs when the disk is full
[01:30:07] <SirFinkus> they don't even include the weight of the OS
[01:30:09] <NCommander> SirFinkus, uncompressed, the SQL restore file is about 700 MiB
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[01:30:22] <SirFinkus> Neat, thanks for the fun fact!
[01:30:28] <SpallsHurgenson> SirFinkus: that's because they don't know if you are using lower-case or uppercase letters :)
[01:30:55] <SirFinkus> Letters? I name my files sequentially
[01:30:57] <K_benzoate1> Slashdot burying stories about Sourceforge adware http://danluu.com
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[01:30:59] <pants--> ^ 03Slashdot burying stories about Slashdot Media owned SourceForge
[01:31:06] <BadCoderFinger> You know, the uppercase W weighs the most.
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[01:31:12] <paulej72> !uid
[01:31:21] <Leebert> SirFinkus: #include <dilber_comic_strip_about_the_boss_deleting_files_to_make_his_laptop_ligher.h>
[01:31:31] <cmn32480> badcoderfinger - especially if you fill it with water
[01:31:43] <BadCoderFinger> It will tip over then!
[01:31:50] <paulej72> !uid
[01:31:52] <cmn32480> set it in concrete
[01:32:03] <NCommander> Population complete
[01:32:07] <BadCoderFinger> Fill it with pebbles instead.
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[01:32:14] <Bytram> yay! Time for a census!
[01:32:14] * NCommander checks the imported data to make sure everything is there *and* replicating
[01:32:18] <SirFinkus> Leebert: Laugh all you want. Those little files may not seem to add much weight, but when you have an entire rack of disks it adds up quickly
[01:32:19] <cmn32480> and water... then grow bamboo!
[01:32:47] <Bytram> cmn32480: I think you've been bamboozled!
[01:32:47] <SirFinkus> Google had problems with it iirc, they had to add extra struts to their server racks
[01:32:59] <cmn32480> ZING!{
[01:33:12] <SirFinkus> it's like that bridge in Paris, with the locks
[01:33:13] <BadCoderFinger> cmn32480: I concede, you win!
[01:33:23] <Bytram> water cooling wasn't supposed to work like that!
[01:33:24] <Leebert> SirFinkus: I think what you're seeing is a cumulative effect of the modification of magnetic polarity interacting with the Van Allen Belts.
[01:33:38] <NCommander> ENGINE=InnoDB AUTO_INCREMENT=14 DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_unicode_ci
[01:33:40] <NCommander> ARGH@#O@!J
[01:33:41] <SpallsHurgenson> SirFinkus: naming files sequentially is fine... but do you use lowercase or uppercase numbers? :)
[01:34:06] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: mixed.... just like the ordering
[01:34:11] * SirFinkus wonders if you could cause the movement of a server rack by making all the hard drive heads seek in the same direction at the same time
[01:34:13] <paulej72> !uid
[01:34:58] <Leebert> We might be able to work around it if we try go repolarize them by setting up a subspace field harmonic in the EPS network. In theory, it should cause a it to resonate, which would let us route the plasma through the main deflector dish, causing repolarization.
[01:35:25] <SirFinkus> you aren't factoring in quantum gauss flux leebert
[01:35:45] <Bytram> SirFinkus: I don't know about a server rack, but I've known one of the old RK05 disk drives whose casters were not set to wander across a raised floor and stop only because it was held back by the power cord!
[01:35:54] <SirFinkus> the flux will dampen the resonation
[01:36:03] <Leebert> SirFinkus: Perhaps apocryphal, but I was told once from one of the old crusty supercomputer admin types about a Days of Yore startup of a room full of disk packs that caused the concrete floor to crack from their angular velocity.
[01:36:44] <SirFinkus> you need the sympathetic inertial dampeners for your idea to work
[01:36:50] <Leebert> SirFinkus: That's the beauty of it. Since it's a SUBSPACE harmonic, the quantum gauss flux will have no mass.
[01:37:16] <SirFinkus> you forget the temporal disruption
[01:37:31] <Leebert> There's always the unspecified dramatic risk that we could all die after we return from the commercial break.
[01:37:32] * Bytram might have had the identifier wrong... https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:37:34] <pants--> ^ 03Wiki: RK05
[01:37:39] <Leebert> But we have a pretty good track record of that not happening.
[01:37:55] <SirFinkus> I've heard that about printers Bytram
[01:38:01] <cmn32480> Leebert / SirFinkus - when it all goes catywompus, we all know you'll have to eject the4 core to stop the subspace tear. Best to not tempt fate.
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[01:38:11] <Leebert> Temporal disruptions are a bonus. We might well be able to meet Mark Twain!
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[01:38:14] <paulej72> !uid
[01:38:14] <Bender> The site is down and data is not available.
[01:38:22] <Bytram> SirFinkus: never heard *that* one
[01:38:53] <SirFinkus> don't remember where I read that, it was one of those old dot matrix printer that could eat a finger if you poked it wrong
[01:38:53] <Leebert> cmn32480: Yeah. Sad things is that it seems that no one ever read my card I dropped in the Starfleet suggestion box that all starships should carry a spare warp core.
[01:39:09] <NCommander> Ok, got that fixed
[01:39:16] <cmn32480> bytram - line printers did it. We had one in a previous life that walked until I choked the wheels.
[01:39:37] <cmn32480> Wow... NCommander got StarFellet to carry extra warp cores... he IS good!
[01:40:07] <mrcoolbp> Is the site down?
[01:40:10] <Bytram> had a coworker, many years ago, who programmed a chain printer to hit certain letters as they came across the page... exactly as they were in order on the chain... 132 hammers going bang at once, then linefeed, then bang... sounded like a machine gun going off... damn near scared the operator to death!
[01:40:17] <cmn32480> oh geez...
[01:40:18] * mrcoolbp just arrived home after a 12 hour shift
[01:40:28] <Leebert> Think maybe he can get Starfleet to not route high-energy plasma conduits through the control consoles on the bridge? That could well save a lot on worker's comp claims.
[01:40:31] <cmn32480> rehash upgrade in progress mrcoolbp
[01:40:31] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: put your feet up and enjoy the peanut gallery
[01:40:37] <mrcoolbp> cool
[01:40:50] <NCommander> to hell with it
[01:40:53] * NCommander orders a pizzaq
[01:40:58] * Leebert is literally eating peanuts
[01:41:03] * BadCoderFinger sense capitulation.
[01:41:07] <cmn32480> I got popcorn!
[01:41:12] <BadCoderFinger> s/sense/senses/
[01:41:12] <sedctl> <BadCoderFinger> senses capitulation.
[01:41:12] <Leebert> NCommander: I'm quite serious that I would order you a pizza.
[01:41:25] <mrcoolbp> paulej72 looks like status.soylentnews.org is not up either?
[01:41:31] <NCommander> Leebert, only place that delivers here is PapaJohns
[01:41:32] <Leebert> Although I would understand not wanting to provide private info about where it should be delivered. :)
[01:41:33] <mrcoolbp> oh and "hi"
[01:41:36] <NCommander> Leebert, I didn't see the above
[01:41:38] <NCommander> comment
[01:41:44] <mrcoolbp> NCommander rather: looks like status.soylentnews.org is not up either?
[01:41:47] * NCommander is only vaguely paying attention to IRC
[01:41:49] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, -_-;
[01:41:51] <mrcoolbp> heh
[01:42:00] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: where are you today?
[01:42:02] <Leebert> NCommander: If they take Interweb orders, drop me an e-mail with the order details.
[01:42:09] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, in Rochester
[01:42:18] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: too hard to move dns arround to make status work
[01:42:24] <mrcoolbp> NCommander really?
[01:42:36] * NCommander mulls the pros and cons of this
[01:42:42] <NCommander> Tables populated
[01:42:47] * NCommander isn't going to order a pizza this moment
[01:43:03] <mrcoolbp> NCommander you are back already? We didn't get to have that bowl of Pho = (
[01:43:28] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I didn't leave for the east yet
[01:43:31] <NCommander> this isn't a good time
[01:43:32] <mrcoolbp> ah
[01:43:34] * NCommander is not sure whats going on
[01:43:45] <mrcoolbp> okay...
[01:43:50] * NCommander thinks he knows what's going wrong
[01:43:53] <NCommander> Freaking SQL dump files
[01:43:56] <mrcoolbp> let me know if there's anything I can do
[01:44:00] <NCommander> Yeah
[01:44:01] <NCommander> Fuck
[01:44:06] * NCommander fires up neon and redumps the database
[01:44:51] * mrcoolbp fires up a glass of rum and coke
[01:46:08] * takyon remembers "SoylentNews"
[01:46:18] <SpallsHurgenson> wow... a whole glassful of cocaine
[01:46:50] <cmn32480> now we know where all the "subscriptions" go
[01:47:39] <paulej72> !uid
[01:47:39] <Bender> The site is down and data is not available.
[01:47:55] <mrcoolbp> takyon remembers
[01:47:56] <mrcoolbp> lol
[01:47:57] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[01:48:06] * SirFinkus raise a glass of scotch
[01:48:12] * mrcoolbp clinks
[01:48:14] <SirFinkus> it's been an honor gentlement
[01:48:17] <mrcoolbp> lol
[01:48:17] <SirFinkus> *gentlemen
[01:48:18] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[01:48:24] * mrcoolbp starts playing the chelllo
[01:48:25] <takyon> lol xd
[01:48:44] <mrcoolbp> s/chello/cello/
[01:48:44] <NCommander> ugh
[01:48:47] <NCommander> this is really fucked up
[01:48:50] <SirFinkus> I've shitposted and trolled with many men, but none finer than the men of soylentnews
[01:48:53] <NCommander> and neon won't restart its mysqld
[01:48:56] * NCommander has to get this fixed
[01:49:12] <mrcoolbp> On the bright side we met our Funding Goal today....
[01:49:20] * mrcoolbp isn't sure if he should duck
[01:49:25] <SirFinkus> that can't be a coincidence
[01:49:25] * mrcoolbp ducks anyways
[01:49:35] <paulej72> NCommander: I did susgest that we do a test run of this a long time ago
[01:49:54] <mrcoolbp> that would be too easy
[01:49:59] <NCommander> paulej72, and I'm an idiot
[01:50:05] * NCommander will get this fixed
[01:50:11] <mrcoolbp> oh yeah he will
[01:50:12] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp - I had a friend who played the cello. she lost a bet and some friends got to name it. Name: "Kindling"
[01:50:16] * mrcoolbp reaches for the whip
[01:50:17] <paulej72> yes we know you will NCommander
[01:50:29] * Bytram remembers when site crashes were a regular occurence and we had an ICS to handle the chain of command!
[01:50:40] <NCommander> Leebert, I appear the pizza offer, but I'm not really comfortable posting my personal address ATM
[01:51:03] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: those were (not) the days!
[01:51:13] <Bytram> lol
[01:51:41] <Bytram> by comparison, things have been going so well for so long, I think we have started to take it for granted!
[01:51:45] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: s/appear/appreciate/
[01:51:45] <sedctl> <mrcoolbp> <NCommander> Leebert, I appreciate the pizza offer, but I'm not really comfortable posting my personal address ATM
[01:51:54] <mrcoolbp> = )
[01:52:03] * NCommander is just having a rough night
[01:52:07] <NCommander> I found why shit kept getting fucked up
[01:52:10] <takyon> shut down soylentnews, run with the 2K
[01:52:12] <NCommander> I know what's wrong, its just a pain to fix it
[01:52:26] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: you have my axe sir
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[01:53:06] <paulej72> !uid
[01:53:19] <mrcoolbp> ......
[01:55:09] <mrcoolbp> !uid
[01:55:22] <mrcoolbp> "Is there anybody out there..."
[01:55:38] <takyon> that's the command for "notuid"
[01:55:40] <takyon> !!uid
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[01:55:51] <NCommander> Ok, hopefully this works for real
[01:55:59] <NCommander> If not, I'm about to abandon this upgrade and sulk
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[01:56:04] <paulej72> !uid
[01:56:05] <Bender> The site is down and data is not available.
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[01:56:31] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: I beleive in you!
[01:57:03] <NCommander> Ok, database is properly replicating now
[01:57:09] <NCommander> Across both neon and helium
[01:57:23] <cmn32480> WOO HOO!
[01:57:25] <Bytram> NCommander++ Yowza!
[01:57:25] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 81
[01:57:27] <paulej72> my python coding skills are not up to the task of getting bender to pull data from the local file with the uid data. It will write to it but not read it
[01:57:29] <Bytram> !woop
[01:57:29] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[01:57:50] <cmn32480> nyuk nyuk nyuk
[01:57:52] <Bytram> paulej72: I appreciate the effort!
[01:57:58] * NCommander prefers python to perl
[01:58:10] <takyon> https://www.youtube.com
[01:58:13] <mrcoolbp> paulej72 ^ make NC do it then
[01:58:19] <pants--> ^ 03Shia LaBeouf TED Talk - YouTube
[01:59:04] * Bytram had misremembered the DEC hard drives; RM03 80MB pack-loaded disk drive and RM05 300MB pack-loaded disk drive
[01:59:06] <NCommander> make me do what?
[01:59:13] <Bytram> it!
[01:59:16] <mrcoolbp> lol
[01:59:17] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[01:59:38] <Bytram> NCommander: paulej72 was having trouble writing/reading files in python
[01:59:58] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: I was joking, I think he's busy I'm trying not to ping him now
[01:59:59] <mrcoolbp> Sorry NC
[02:00:07] <Bytram> correction... could write, but not read.
[02:00:30] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: understood. likewise
[02:01:06] <NCommander> import antigravity :P
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[02:01:19] <poutine> WEBSITE IS FUCKING BROKEN
[02:01:28] <poutine> told you it'd fail
[02:02:06] <cmn32480> THank you for your kind words, we are aware of the situation, and currently addressing the issues. PLease leave a message after the beep.
[02:02:09] <SpallsHurgenson> lol
[02:02:24] <mrcoolbp> Poutine you were actually right!
[02:02:26] <SpallsHurgenson> wait... is the website down? do you think ncommander knows?
[02:02:40] <cmn32480> BEEP!
[02:02:49] <mrcoolbp> poutine: we concide you win at everything! You have won one internetz!!
[02:03:19] * mrcoolbp starts responding to user emails on the admin contact reporting 503s
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[02:04:36] <SpallsHurgenson> email? get with the times, grandpaw!
[02:04:53] <takyon> skype video chat reporting 503s
[02:05:09] <SirFinkus> lol poutine
[02:05:09] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
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[02:05:47] <mrcoolbp> btw I don't think that's the real poutine...
[02:05:52] <poutine> I am totally the real poutine
[02:05:58] <mrcoolbp> oh cool, how are you buddy?
[02:06:00] <mrcoolbp> ltns
[02:06:11] <poutine> I am great, obviously better than soylentnews.org atm
[02:06:15] <poutine> how is mrcoolbp
[02:06:28] <mrcoolbp> not bad at all. We just hit our funding goal a month early
[02:06:32] <chromas> mrpoutinebp
[02:06:40] * mrcoolbp murders chromas
[02:06:49] <poutine> Is everyone aware that there's a 503 error present when attempting to access soylentnews.org?
[02:06:58] <mrcoolbp> poutine: WHaaaa!??!
[02:06:58] <poutine> if not, I am more than happy to make you aware
[02:07:02] -!- NCommander [NCommander!~mcasadeva@Soylent/Staff/Sysop/mcasadevall] has parted #Soylent
[02:07:09] <poutine> ^ ragequit
[02:07:20] <mrcoolbp> should I call him?
[02:07:29] <mrcoolbp> nah
[02:07:32] <poutine> yes, please tell him there is a 503 on the main page
[02:07:33] <mrcoolbp> it's late
[02:07:39] <mrcoolbp> poutine: aye aye captain
[02:07:52] <poutine> In case people are not aware, 503 is an ERROR page
[02:08:11] <poutine> I strongly suspect user ERROR of some sorts
[02:08:26] <chromas> but um, you're the user
[02:08:30] <mrcoolbp> .
[02:08:33] <JamesNZ> #shotsfired
[02:08:40] <mrcoolbp> = )
[02:08:52] <mrcoolbp> !karma poutine
[02:08:52] <Bender> karma of poutine is -394
[02:08:53] <poutine> chromas, I am _a_ user, but not the only user, and not the user of whatever software would be spitting out this error
[02:08:55] <Bytram> poutine--
[02:08:55] <Bender> karma - poutine: -395
[02:09:12] <JamesNZ> poutine-- # Just following the crowd
[02:09:12] <Bender> karma - poutine: -396
[02:09:45] <poutine> say all you want about barabas but at least he never let the site 503 error to people
[02:09:54] <cmn32480> if you are receiving the error message... you MUST be the user of the software that is spitting out the error message.
[02:09:58] <SpallsHurgenson> I dunno, I like soylent's new look; very sparse. It encourages imagination :)
[02:09:59] <poutine> barabbas
[02:10:05] <mrcoolbp> poutine: we are still waiting for you to start your own better soylent
[02:10:23] <chromas> 503(beta)
[02:10:36] <mrcoolbp> Spalls we wanted that "clean" look. Did we achieve?
[02:10:49] <poutine> MILESTONE Reached! First time in soylentnews history where 95% of the front page's content did NOT come from another site (slashdot)
[02:11:02] <mrcoolbp> poutine--
[02:11:02] <Bender> karma - poutine: -397
[02:11:07] <Bytram> poutine--
[02:11:07] <Bender> karma - poutine: -398
[02:11:20] <cmn32480> poutine--
[02:11:20] <Bender> karma - poutine: -399
[02:11:28] <SpallsHurgenson> poutine++
[02:11:28] <Bender> karma - poutine: -398
[02:11:32] * SpallsHurgenson is a renegade :)
[02:11:33] <Bytram> poutine--
[02:11:33] <Bender> karma - poutine: -399
[02:11:34] <Bytram> poutine--
[02:11:34] <Bender> karma - poutine: -400
[02:11:44] poutine is now known as poutine--
[02:11:45] <Bytram> now *THAT* is a nice round number
[02:11:48] <JamesNZ> Oh my, karma wars.
[02:11:48] * JamesNZ gets the popcorn
[02:11:52] * cmn32480 thinks spalls needs to go put on his pants
[02:12:05] <mrcoolbp> no cmn32480!
[02:12:10] <mrcoolbp> that will demark the endo of the world
[02:12:10] <JamesNZ> He has pants?
[02:12:13] <Bytram> JamesNZ: good idea! I'd like a jumbo tub,if you don't mind?
[02:12:26] <JamesNZ> Bytram: Coming right up!
[02:12:34] <cmn32480> somethign... anythgin to cover that zebra print thong
[02:12:45] <Bytram> wait a sec... none of that fake butter goop!
[02:13:08] <cmn32480> JamesNZ - FILL THE BAG WITH THAT FAKE BUTTER GOOP! WE PAID FOR TOPPINGS DAMNIT
[02:13:08] <JamesNZ> What? You're saying there's other kinds?
[02:13:20] <Bytram> and please try to make sure there's no unpopped kernels in the bottom, if you would be so kind?
[02:13:29] <JamesNZ> cmn32480: FINE FINE KEEP YOUR PANTS ON!
[02:14:02] <Bytram> too late
[02:14:11] cmn32480 is now known as SpallsPantlessOn
[02:15:05] SpallsPantlessOn is now known as cmn32480
[02:15:11] <Bytram> PantLesson? Just put 'em on one leg at a time.
[02:15:44] <cmn32480> I had this strange feeling like a leopard print underroos were calling me.... it was VERY scary
[02:15:59] <paulej72> not pant as in something you wear, but pant as in a type of breathing
[02:16:03] * Bytram offers ear plugs
[02:16:25] <Bytram> paulej72: I dont recommend trying to breathe through your pants
[02:16:41] <paulej72> that is why you need lessons
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[02:18:22] <Bytram> lol
[02:19:03] <JamesNZ> soylent++
[02:19:03] <Bender> karma - soylent: 3
[02:20:27] <poutine--> I have heard a rumor that soylentnews is down because the DB is corrupted and there's no functional backup since february
[02:20:47] <paulej72> you are an ass poutine--
[02:20:47] <Leebert> LAST february
[02:24:44] <poutine--> confirmed, SITE UPDATE 2015-05-31 07:20PM Pacific: SN's database is corrupted. Additionally, backup system for the database seems to not produce valid dump files. Last viable backup is from 2015-02-23. Going to relaunch from that backup and migrate over comments made past this point when the old DB is fixed.
[02:25:11] <mrcoolbp> poutine: you wish
[02:25:51] <cmn32480> ah yes.. belief in the rumor mill... the last refuge of the galactically stupid
[02:27:20] <Bytram> seems like someone might be concerned about their earlier posting history?
[02:31:41] <cmn32480> pants--++
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[02:32:43] <Leebert> I can't remember, have I been an ass since February?
[02:36:31] <Bytram> http://feeds.arstechnica.com
[02:36:34] <pants--> ^ 03Senate impasse: NSA spy tactics—including phone records collection—expiring | Ars Technica ( http://arstechnica.com )
[02:38:45] <juggs> Oooh poutine popped their head above the parapet - long time no see buddy!
[02:38:53] * juggs equips sniper rifle
[02:39:55] <paulej72> is it a 50 Cal sniper rifle?
[02:40:34] <takyon> 69 cal
[02:40:47] * cmn32480 passes the keys to his orbiting nuclear missle platform to juggs
[02:41:01] <juggs> I think perhaps calling in an airstrike is the only way to be sure
[02:41:35] <juggs> cmn32480, I'll mark it, you deploy your orbiting widget, I can't be trusted at the controls of something like that
[02:42:43] <cmn32480> no problem juggs.... but please, this time, mark it real good. use napalm or something
[02:43:16] <juggs> I can alternate napalm and depleted uranium rounds if that helps?
[02:43:27] <Bytram> https://www.eff.org
[02:43:28] <pants--> ^✓ 03Section 215 Expires—For Now | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[02:43:45] <cmn32480> excellent.
[02:44:38] <takyon> 1 week off section 215 tops
[02:44:42] <takyon> calling it
[02:45:29] <juggs> I'm not taking that bet, it'll be back in some guise for sure. Interesting to see who brings it to the floor in the run up to an election though.
[02:46:30] <takyon> they have all the traffic they want anyway
[02:47:10] <cmn32480> anybody really think they are gonna stop collecting?
[02:48:21] <cmn32480> mmmm... Reese's Peanut Butter Cup Oreos and milk...
[02:48:43] <SpallsHurgenson> no need; now the ISPs collect for them and they just need ask with an easy-to-get warrant
[02:49:15] <takyon> they still need to outlaw encryption though
[02:49:22] <takyon> that stuff is dangerous
[02:49:45] <takyon> 01111111111111101
[02:49:51] <SpallsHurgenson> don't be silly; they won't outlaw encryption... how will the rich and powerful protect their secrets?
[02:50:03] <SpallsHurgenson> they'll just make sure the common folk use stuff with backdoors :)
[02:50:07] <takyon> right to be forgotten
[02:52:34] <SpallsHurgenson> you'll just need a crypto-license to get the good stuff :)
[02:52:37] <juggs> Easy enough to do legally, just mandate that anyone using encryption without a backdoor is de facto a criminal.
[02:52:59] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, I like it!
[02:53:58] <SpallsHurgenson> "There is data on your hard-drive that we cannot read. That means it is encrypted. Off to jail with you!" "But sir.. that's just empty space on my hard-drive!" "Nope, its crypto, you terrorist!"
[02:54:01] <juggs> I can see that coming to pass in the UK now the tories have their majority. Cameron and May have been hinting at it for months.
[02:54:12] <Bytram> https://www.eff.org
[02:54:13] <pants--> ^✓ 03Section 215 Expires—For Now | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[02:54:40] <takyon> #redy2submit http://puu.sh
[02:54:51] <Bytram> oooops! Pasted wrong link...
[02:54:53] <Bytram> http://www.forbes.com
[02:54:54] <pants--> ^ 03How To Tell If You Have A Billion-Dollar Business Idea - Forbes
[02:55:48] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, that's why you overwrite free space with random data first then from /dev/zero - good luck to anyone trying to claim in court that many GBs of just zeroes is encrypted data :D
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[02:56:45] <NCommander> It's limping but back up
[02:57:05] <juggs> NCommander, are you cutting across to rehash?
[02:57:13] <NCommander> -_-;
[02:57:34] <juggs> There was always going to be tears :)
[02:58:26] <juggs> I'm staying out of the other place so you and pj can get your mojo on.
[03:00:23] <SpallsHurgenson> hammer-the-site time!
[03:01:50] * NCommander notes the site is going to be uber sluggish for a bit
[03:02:06] <juggs> It'ssss hammer time! Did I just experience a worm hole back a decade or 3?
[03:02:43] * cmn32480 passes juggs a set of parachute pants
[03:02:59] <cmn32480> I think they used to be Spalls, but he don't use them anymore....
[03:04:03] <NCommander> paulej72, running a mass anazyle got the site performance back up
[03:04:16] <juggs> ooh nice - gold lamé - now I look the business.
[03:04:46] <SpallsHurgenson> oh fudnuckers... it's the end of the month!
[03:05:10] <juggs> Is that a problem?
[03:05:30] <takyon> https://www.eff.org
[03:05:31] <pants--> ^ 03Don’t Worry, the Government Still Has Plenty of Surveillance Power If Section 215 Sunsets | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[03:05:38] <cmn32480> that is usually what happens on the 31st SpallHurgenson
[03:06:31] <NCommander> !uid
[03:06:36] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5288, owned by steelfood
[03:06:50] <Bytram> Bender++
[03:06:50] <Bender> karma - bender: 0
[03:07:12] <NCommander> Bytram, go try and break production if you will :)
[03:07:21] <NCommander> Optimize is still running
[03:07:44] <cmn32480> like letting a dog loose in a butcher shop....
[03:07:46] * Bytram will try some obvious stuff to make sure it still works; am wicked tired and don't have a lot left to give. :/
[03:08:09] <cmn32480> Bytram - I'll test editing
[03:10:01] <Bytram> cmn32480: I'd reported a bug that I couldn't use HR and SMALL tags in stories on dev; supposed to be fixed but I haven't tried it yet. now that dev is running on prod, just try it on the main site that is now back up
[03:10:21] <cmn32480> aye aye captain
[03:10:37] <juggs> Sluggish loading the homepage for me... is the DB still busy re-jiggering its thing?
[03:10:42] <Bytram> cmn32480: suggestion... why don't we meet in #dev so we'll have a cleaner log of what we did and found?
[03:11:25] <juggs> Bytram, good suggestion, #Soylent is not the best place as it will get polluted by general noise.
[03:11:30] <NCommander> yeah
[03:11:35] <NCommander> Its lagging badly
[03:11:37] <NCommander> Not sure what's going on
[03:11:40] * NCommander is debugging
[03:11:45] <juggs> nod nod
[03:12:30] <NCommander> Not sure if its cluster or if its apache2
[03:12:34] <NCommander> We couldn't really loadtest on dev
[03:14:36] <NCommander> Oi
[03:14:39] <NCommander> There's the problem
[03:14:42] <NCommander> Its not using memcache
[03:14:52] <juggs> Sure, there was always going to be an element of seat of pants on this cut across. Not much I can do but I have faith in you :D
[03:15:34] * NCommander fixes the memcached variables
[03:15:35] <NCommander> Well
[03:15:38] <NCommander> This is an improvement
[03:15:44] <NCommander> We used to go BANG without memcache
[03:15:58] <Landon> !uid
[03:16:02] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5288, owned by steelfood
[03:16:04] <Landon> clapclapclap
[03:17:24] <paulej72> NCommander: it looks like the old issues we had with hydrogen are still here. I suggest we get flourine spun up rehash asap
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[03:18:26] <juggs> NCommander, you and pj are on about sphinx, voodoo et al. I have no idea what those are - magic incantations? I kinda got to grips with how apache, memcache and varnish were glued together. Now there is magic involved too :D Glad we have wizard mages around :)
[03:19:59] <SpallsHurgenson> you wouldn't say that if you knew how many small children they had to bloodily sacrifice to get the damn thing working :)
[03:20:45] <NCommander> paulej72, it seems to be OK now.
[03:20:47] <SpallsHurgenson> (it was six, by the way :)
[03:21:19] <paulej72> NCommander: I am seeing long load times on pages
[03:21:31] * SpallsHurgenson blames firefox
[03:21:46] <NCommander> paulej72, its sparcatic for me. I can get fluorine up in a bit
[03:22:28] <SpallsHurgenson> sporadic? spastic? sarcastic?
[03:22:30] <NCommander> shit
[03:22:34] <NCommander> ndbd OOMed
[03:22:56] <Bytram> juggs: AFAIK sphinx is the story/comment indexer that lets us do searches
[03:24:02] <takyon> anyone know how a greasemonkey script can run code on specific pages? like have the script run on @include A* and @include B* but only execute a certain section on @include B*
[03:24:47] <juggs> Bytram, as ever I am much obliged sir
[03:27:52] <Landon> well it's good I tested before deploying :| lxc launch causes the 4.0.3 linode kernel to shit the bed
[03:30:07] <Bytram> juggs: hth as best I can!
[03:31:15] * Bytram continues writing a test journal entry
[03:35:06] <juggs> Bytram, I rather liked the idea we now use ancient Egyptian statues and chicken bones to keep the site running :) Not sure if that makes NCommander a Necromancer or a Witchdoctor. Necromancer in Chief or Witchdoctor Extraordinaire - NIC or WE... either would look good on a resume I suppose :D
[03:36:19] <Bytram> works for me!
[03:37:14] <takyon> https://www.youtube.com
[03:37:16] <pants--> ^ 03sad violin montageparodi.mp420 (HD) (i cri evrytim theme song) - YouTube
[03:37:22] <cmn32480> ooo ee oooo ah ah ting tang walla walla bing bang!
[03:37:42] <SpallsHurgenson> aww, I was working on that joke!
[03:37:50] * SpallsHurgenson sings it anyway "I told the witch doctor my website was 503 / I told the witch doctor could you please help me! / And then the witch doctor he told me what to do / He said that / Ooh to the eeh the ooh the aah aah / To the ting to the tang the wallawalla bingbang / Ooh to the eeh the ooh the aah aah / Ting tang wallawalla bingbang"
[03:44:01] * juggs distributes bread and points out that there is a circus in town, just over yonder, they have rides and fun.... come with me....
[03:45:19] * juggs rolls in with a super length limo... come on, stop refreshing the site, let's go to the circus and funfair.... hop in, we have champagne.....
[03:46:29] <takyon> this is essentially what I want: https://github.com
[03:46:30] <pants--> ^ 03Feature Request: Allow include/match-specific callback function. · Issue #2075 · greasemonkey/greasemonkey · GitHub
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[03:49:08] <juggs> Blargh takyon! What is wrong with you? You're seriously dropping feature requests while the site is being wrestled back into a vaguely vertical position? Noooooo....
[03:49:44] <takyon> no this isn't rehash related, I'm looking for a way to code something in a greasemonkey script
[03:50:06] <takyon> I want the script to run a block of code only on certain pages
[03:54:37] <juggs> I know, I was dramatising for my own entertainment there. It's been years since I used greasemonkey, but way back then I seem to recall having gm scripts that only triggered on a given page on a given site. That doesn't help at all I know. :(
[03:56:17] <takyon> it's easy enough to have a very specific @include statement
[03:56:43] <takyon> what's not easy is having many of them and then including custom code for one of them
[03:59:11] <juggs> Yeh, I can imagine. I only used GM for a very limited number of pages. I can imagine it getting unmanageable real quick if used extensively.
[04:00:15] <takyon> I think this might do it
[04:00:16] <takyon> if (location.href.test(/http\:\/\/(www\.)?whatever/))
[04:00:28] <cmn32480> good night kids. I gotta get some sleep before work.
[04:00:35] <takyon> nght
[04:00:54] <cmn32480> and just for good measure
[04:00:57] <cmn32480> poutine--
[04:00:57] <Bender> karma - poutine: -401
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[04:01:38] <takyon> poutine--
[04:01:38] <Bender> karma - poutine: -402
[04:01:40] <takyon> poutine--
[04:01:40] <Bender> karma - poutine: -403
[04:01:40] <takyon> poutine--
[04:01:41] <Bender> karma - poutine: -404
[04:02:42] <Bytram> g'nicht everyone
[04:03:00] <SpallsHurgenson> auf wiedersehen
[04:05:30] <juggs> pet
[04:09:44] <takyon> if (window.location.href.search(/http(s)?\:\/\/soylentnews\.org\/submit\.pl/)!=-1) // runs code only on the submission page
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[04:15:25] <juggs> We need more regex... you couldn't work in a few more carats?
[04:17:44] <takyon> I think I am being censored
[04:17:57] <takyon> yup I can't bring you a regex that extreme
[04:19:36] <takyon> http://puu.sh
[04:19:45] <takyon> couldn't even screenshot hexchat
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[04:25:12] <juggs> Now look what you did takyon, your image pushed the pantless one to quit.
[04:25:31] <takyon> it's beautiful and functional regex
[04:26:03] <juggs> Ahh man. I just posted the worst comment ever seen on SN. :)
[04:26:29] * NCommander is really frustated
[04:28:02] * juggs brings NCommander pizza, beer, cigs, a hot masseuse, a bicycle.... whatever you need buddy..... you can do it! :D
[04:29:18] * juggs pushes NCommander over the hump... break that problem.... kick it down.... go go go, you got it, it's within your gift man...
[04:29:21] <takyon> http://www.beeradvocate.com
[04:29:21] <pants--> ^ 03Mamma Mia! Pizza Beer | Pizza Beer Company | Saint Charles, IL | BeerAdvocate
[04:30:43] <juggs> I don't think I am helping at this point... just shouting inane things :D
[04:30:45] * NCommander is going to have to debug this on production as I can't reproduce this on dev
[04:33:19] <NCommander> It looks like its doing a bad pull
[04:33:27] <NCommander> But why the hell did this break on production and not dev
[04:35:24] <juggs> Come on NCommander - you got this. Dev, staging, prod.... they're never ever the same.... work it through on prod, then in the mop up we can try to align the other platforms. I have faith in you.... go go go!
[04:35:45] <NCommander> blocks are fine on dev
[04:35:59] <NCommander> Which means this is probably a table load issue ... somewhere
[04:37:05] <juggs> Work it through... work it through, stay focussed..... it'll pop when you see it....
[04:40:42] <NCommander> BLocks table on production looks OK
[04:41:48] <NCommander> rehash can obviously read the table
[04:41:54] <NCommander> else the blocks field in homepage would be busted
[04:42:50] <juggs> that's it - follow the logic.. you're going to nail this...
[04:43:57] <takyon> time for janrinok's macros: http://puu.sh
[04:48:57] <juggs> NCommander, you got this, just focus and follow the logic, step by step, kill those bottlenecks, work it through..... I'll be over there somewhere offering covering fire, the best I can do, but you got this before you crash :D
[04:50:45] * NCommander is still very upset with how badly this upgrade has gone
[04:51:17] * JamesNZ gives NCommander a consolatory pizza
[04:53:47] <juggs> NCommander, it's a big change, don't get down now, this shit was inevitably going to be troublesome, we knew that before we started. That's a given. This is not the time for introspection, let's run and gun, no looking back, complete what has been started.
[04:53:58] <NCommander> Think I found it
[04:54:07] <NCommander> Bad skin table entry
[04:54:20] <juggs> Told ya... NCommander is da boss!
[04:55:01] <NCommander> And now apache won't start
[04:55:02] <NCommander> -_-;
[04:55:13] <juggs> fuckity
[04:55:52] <juggs> I have a battery and spark plugs if that helps?
[04:56:00] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:56:01] <pants--> ^ 03Gigabyte and Cavium team on super-dense ARM servers • The Register
[04:56:42] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[04:56:43] <pants--> ^ 03BBC Sport - Harriette Thompson, 92, sets marathon record in San Diego
[04:56:59] <juggs> Oh right, hyper-convergence is a thing again.... fuck me I have been around this industry too long.
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[05:02:13] <juggs> Come on NCommander, see it through, this changlelog is going to be epic, you can do it. Stand it up. The guy who put rehash live almost single-handed.... that's some kudos right there. You got this. Finish it off ftw!
[05:03:59] <NCommander> juggs, I'm trying
[05:05:30] <juggs> NCommander, I know you are, don't feel pressured, I'm mostly dramatising stuff to keep myself awake right now :)
[05:05:52] <NCommander> I think the problem is the mainpage isn't properly attached to a skin
[05:05:57] <NCommander> I have no idea how that's possible
[05:06:02] <NCommander> It shouldn't be possible
[05:06:54] <JamesNZ> On the plus side, we reached the funding goal :)
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[05:07:29] <NCommander> Indeed
[05:08:56] <juggs> OK - latest reports state we have naked sites running around without skin, I'm not sure what that means.... there could be exposed muscles everywhere, our skycam will be in place in a minute or two. In the meantime here is an artists impression
[05:10:09] <juggs> someridiculousimpression.jpg here
[05:11:09] <Landon> iptables can go die in a fire :(
[05:12:15] <juggs> As you can see it is chaos as this unskinned site runs amok, we're not sure what it looks like or even what it means, but you should be scared, really fucking scared. Why? Don't ask why.... just be scared. More news to scare you in just 5 minutes.
[05:16:40] <juggs> Landon, sup with iptables? Aren't we supposed to move to netfilter now? I got ipchains and iptables then boom - learn something new motherfucker - learn netfilter!
[05:16:55] <juggs> ~sigh@
[05:17:16] <juggs> NCommander, how you holding up good buddy?
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[05:19:54] <Ethanol-fueled> sup.
[05:19:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Heh.
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[05:20:28] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, site is busted
[05:20:30] <NCommander> juggs, not great
[05:20:41] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander, fuck it.
[05:20:54] <NCommander> paulej72, ... I think I fixed it
[05:21:12] <NCommander> paulej72, I just hit *save* on the colors page, which appears to have populated the skin_colors table with crap, and mainp is now showing up where its supposed to
[05:21:51] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, it's all going down. We got unskinned sites running amok, we got transformers transforming all over the place, we got voodoo and sphinxes.
[05:22:26] <paulej72> NCommander: restart the services on flourine
[05:22:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Voododo?
[05:22:35] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[05:22:36] <NCommander> or not
[05:22:37] <pants--> ^ 03Jimi Hendrix - Voodoo Child ( Slight Return ) - YouTube
[05:22:39] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm trying
[05:23:06] <NCommander> Ok
[05:23:07] <juggs> I tried to get some chopper-cams in place but they were taken down by pj's area defence guns.
[05:23:08] * Ethanol-fueled smokes a fat joint
[05:23:14] <NCommander> It appears getSection is failing spartically
[05:23:19] <NCommander> Sometimes it returns valid data
[05:23:23] <NCommander> And sometimes it doesn't
[05:24:30] <Landon> juggs: well, technically I'm using ufw
[05:24:31] <juggs> sporadically
[05:24:39] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, you just wanted to perv on the titties, you blutty git
[05:24:52] <Landon> trying to get communication through to a private container
[05:25:01] <Landon> somehow I borked it so mr. container can't get to the outside world
[05:25:07] <paulej72> if you don;t clear memechach and varnish these things will look like they are not fixed
[05:25:13] <NCommander> paulej72, I did
[05:26:43] <juggs> I have been so useless this evening, I best get another beer and crank up the journalism.
[05:26:59] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, you and I both.
[05:27:19] <paulej72> I am way past my prime. I cant even focus much right now
[05:27:52] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, I don't even know calculus II. And I don't give a flying fuck about it.
[05:28:05] <NCommander> paulej72, go to sleep
[05:28:09] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahahaha
[05:28:13] <NCommander> paulej72, the site at least isn't going to implode at the moment
[05:28:33] <paulej72> yep. see you tomorrow
[05:29:20] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[05:29:22] <pants--> ^ 03Darkman (4/11) Movie CLIP - Darkman Impersonates Pauly (1990) HD - YouTube
[05:29:56] <NCommander> paulej72, best of luck
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[05:30:38] <paulej72> I knew we would have a slew of bugs that we would find after going live, but some of these are just unexpeced given what was going on with dev
[05:32:42] <NCommander> paulej72, no kidding. This primaryskid issue is frustating. And interminiate. Sometimes its fine, sometimes it isn't
[05:32:45] <paulej72> getSection code may need to be fixed. I may have broke that when fixing Nexii
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[05:33:30] <juggs> Come on NCommander, paulej72 - blow through these teething problems... focus....you can do it
[05:34:17] * juggs comes live on site....
[05:34:44] <paulej72> juggs: I can't even find the pull request for my nexii changes
[05:34:58] <paulej72> https://github.com
[05:34:59] <pants--> ^ 03fixes for issue #19 (broken Nexus support) by paulej72 · Pull Request #32 · SoylentNews/rehash · GitHub
[05:36:31] <paulej72> NCommander: I think the primaryskid issue stems from pull 32
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[05:38:44] <NCommander> paulej72, thanks, I'll look at it
[05:38:50] * NCommander is adding the nexii as a distraction
[05:40:58] * juggs gets punched in that face by Ncommander and paulej72 - that's fine, pressure's on, times like this the last thing these guys need is a camera shoved up their ass. But at juggsian news we do not give up. All we know is, there are unskinned, muscle bound websites causing havoc all over the internet. We have unconfirmed reports that they are causing chaos on The Facebook and The Twitter. We repeat these reports are unconfirmed. Area man will
[05:40:59] * juggs be along soon to confirm these allegations,
[05:41:53] <Ethanol-fueled> the buttholes of NCom and Pauley are made of steel.
[05:42:06] <JamesNZ> TMI.
[05:43:33] <Ethanol-fueled> when they clench, they take out everything else in their path.
[05:43:50] * juggs Area man (NZ) confirms the chaos being wreaked by the skinless websites. The death toll is horrific. Subject to confirmation.
[05:46:27] <juggs> This could be the end of the world. You heard it here first.
[05:47:40] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, as long as the human scum are eradicated, the world will be a better place...for awhile.
[05:47:56] <JamesNZ> https://www.youtube.com
[05:47:58] <pants--> ^ 032012 - Yellowstone explodes [HD] - YouTube
[05:48:23] <Ethanol-fueled> as long as it explodes Yogi Bear
[05:48:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Hate that frucker
[05:49:15] <Ethanol-fueled> It'll be like Chrono Trigger in the bleak future.
[05:49:45] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, you first into the mincer. Unless you class yourself as not human.
[05:51:15] <juggs> I'm not doing well on the reporting front
[05:52:58] <JamesNZ> Just make it up as you go along. That's what the pros do, right?
[05:53:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Fake until you make it.
[05:53:27] <JamesNZ> That's the spirit!
[05:53:33] <NCommander> Nexii seem to be working
[05:53:42] <Ethanol-fueled> It is only the illusion of confidence which can sway people.
[05:55:04] <juggs> NCommander, told ya you'd nail it. Smooth it out get the changelog on my desk within 14 days, you deserve a break.
[05:55:35] <juggs> I am so going to get smacked for that :D
[05:58:08] <NCommander> juggs, its still not fixed, performance is still kinda crud
[05:59:58] <juggs> NCommander, homepage performance looks on a par with prior to move for me... but I have a kinda slow connection so I'm not really a benchmark.
[06:05:14] <juggs> Ooh yah.. clicking into comments from a story is slow... is this the point we want to put all the caching back in?
[06:07:09] <NCommander> juggs, yeah, that's the problem
[06:07:15] <NCommander> I don't know why the cache is hosed
[06:07:43] <NCommander> juggs, I'm going to write the changelog
[06:07:48] <NCommander> I can't stare at perl anymore for now
[06:08:21] <juggs> I didn't think logged in user hitting comments was cached anymore... I thought we were going dynamic with that.
[06:11:07] <juggs> Which if I am correct with that assumption would point to db performance. But yeh, get those notes written up and get rested. Enough for one day, I don't have infinite cam-copters you know! :D
[06:20:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - (Reposted) Site Upgrade Still In Progress - http://sylnt.us || The US Tried to 'Stuxnet' North Korea’s Nuclear Program - http://sylnt.us - Pandora's-Box
[06:21:18] <juggs> NCommander, I have to bail. you and pj broke the back of it tonight, good job. There's going to be some niggles to work out for a while, but if you just pulled off what I think you guys did, we're in a much better place going forward.
[06:21:35] * juggs is out
[06:23:29] <NCommander> juggs, sleep well
[06:31:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Weed Rules.
[06:33:36] <SirFinkus> meh
[06:35:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Weed is momma nature's miracle drug.
[06:39:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Login is borked all to hell.
[06:40:13] <Ethanol-fueled> sessions or cookies or whatever da f*** doesn't follow from page to page.
[06:40:33] <Ethanol-fueled> it's enough to drive a man to drink.
[06:52:40] <SirFinkus> or smoke
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[06:56:41] * SirFinkus is listening to 35007 — Von Braun, from the album Sea Of Tranquility
[06:57:01] <janrinok> devs, pse see #dev
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[07:02:45] <janrinok> I'm sure that you know - several pages on the site are 503's. Unable to edit at present as the story list appears to empty on refresh. Only 3 stores visible - 2 of them about the upgrade.
[07:04:46] <Ethanol-fueled> it's time for mongolian music
[07:06:03] <janrinok> morning eth
[07:07:56] <Ethanol-fueled> sup jan rinok.
[07:08:10] <Ethanol-fueled> I failed in my quest to abstain from alcohol for a week.
[07:08:14] <janrinok> OK, start of a new day here. Sun is shining
[07:08:32] <janrinok> rofl - I tried to help by having a drink for you yesterday evening
[07:08:34] <ciri> heh
[07:08:55] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[07:08:57] <pants--> ^ 03huun-huur-tu - aa-shuu dekei-oo - YouTube
[07:11:18] <janrinok> I wouldn't like to have to sing along, but its ok for background I suppose
[07:13:02] <janrinok> the site needs a good lie down in a darkened room for a while
[07:17:45] <NCommander> janrinok, I just posted the changelog
[07:17:51] <NCommander> I'm going to take a shower and try and get back into this
[07:17:52] <janrinok> noted
[07:18:37] * NCommander is still not happy with how badly this upgrade has gone.
[07:20:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Don't beat yourself up man.
[07:21:04] <Ethanol-fueled> You've accomplished in minutes what mere mortals did in their lifetimes.
[07:21:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site Upgrade To Rehash 15.05 - Changelog and Incident Report - http://sylnt.us - that-sucked
[07:22:59] <janrinok> still missing all the stories - makes my job a bit easier ;)
[07:27:14] <chromas> Oh, oh yeah, uh, I've got like 30 stories to submit but nooooo
[07:28:04] <Ethanol-fueled> fug off, sacksuck
[07:28:28] <janrinok> chromas: hi and lol
[07:28:41] <Ethanol-fueled> lets rock out to Mongolian music\
[07:28:50] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[07:28:52] <pants--> ^ 03A-Shoo-De-Ke-Yo (Let's Go, Вперед, 2002) - Хуун-Хуур-Ту / Huun Huur Tu - YouTube
[07:28:59] <chromas> But they're extremely time-sensitive so they won't be there when the site works again :D
[07:29:17] <janrinok> funny old thing!
[07:29:27] <janrinok> hope you are good this fine day?
[07:30:23] <chromas> Sure. It's suddenly summer here now
[07:30:52] * chromas looks for computers to turn off for the season
[07:31:25] <janrinok> got to dash - a few domestic jobs to do before I can be back on here. laters.
[07:31:30] <chromas> see ya
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[07:31:58] <chromas> Mongorians
[07:32:32] * NCommander waits for sphinx to build its indexes
[07:32:38] <NCommander> janrinok|afk, beside search, what's 503ing?
[07:32:41] <crutchy> get off mah shitty whar
[07:32:56] <chromas> sphinx? that doesn't sound elemental
[07:33:17] <crutchy> maybe someone is a neverending story fan?
[07:33:30] <chromas> did that have a 'sphinx'?
[07:33:57] <chromas> It had the Oracle, and therefor Delphi
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[07:36:12] <janrinok|afk> NCommander: the stories list either only shows 3 stories - your 2 and the funding story - or the page simply 503's on update
[07:41:22] <NCommander> janrinok|afk, that's the meta view
[07:41:46] <NCommander> janrinok|afk, this loads properly for me: http://soylentnews.org
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[08:53:01] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[08:56:30] * NCommander tries to get a bit of sleep
[08:57:04] <SirFinkus> well done NCommander
[09:03:08] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:03:08] <pants--> ^✓ 03Lead Breakfast | Pogo - YouTube
[09:03:17] <chromas> screw you bot
[09:08:52] <crutchy> what the fuck is wrong with arizona?
[09:09:27] * crutchy has trouble comprehending how they could vote for john mccain so many times
[09:09:36] <crutchy> maybe they don't have access to tv or internet there
[09:09:58] <chromas> well, it's touching california
[09:10:56] <crutchy> indecently
[09:11:09] <crutchy> from behind
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[09:11:55] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[09:11:57] <pants--> ^ 03Green Jello - House Me Teenage Rave - YouTube
[09:12:00] <Ethanol-fueled> OYOYOYOYOYOY
[09:12:43] <Ethanol-fueled> OHYEAH.
[09:12:43] <chromas> "oy"? is this a video about picking up pennies off the street?
[09:12:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Sucxk it fucker
[09:16:04] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[09:16:06] <pants--> ^ 03Green Jelly - Misadventures of Shitman - YouTube
[09:16:29] <Ethanol-fueled> shitman rocks
[09:17:29] <Ethanol-fueled> SHITMAN!
[09:18:01] * Ethanol-fueled rocks out to SHITMAN
[09:21:12] <crutchy> chromas, i think it was a reference to female anatomy
[09:21:25] <crutchy> OYO
[09:21:29] <Ethanol-fueled> you wish, git.
[09:21:39] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[09:21:40] <pants--> ^ 03Metallica - Orion (HD) - YouTube
[09:22:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lightsail Update: Back in Communication - http://sylnt.us - needed-to-open-all-hailing-frequencies
[09:24:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Time for some Disposable Heroes.
[09:25:02] <crutchy> http://it.slashdot.org
[09:25:03] <pants--> ^ 03Macs Vulnerable To Userland Injected EFI Rootkits - Slashdot ( http://slashdot.org )
[09:25:21] <Ethanol-fueled> You WILL do, what I say, when I say, BACK TO THE FRONT.
[09:25:39] <Ethanol-fueled> You will DIE, when I say, you must die BACK TO THE FRONT.
[09:26:02] <Ethanol-fueled> YOU Coward, you servant, you blind man, BACK TO THE FRONT.
[09:26:03] <crutchy> sounds like the motto of the US military
[09:26:16] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, I think that was the idea.
[09:26:24] <crutchy> ah
[09:26:43] <crutchy> heaven forbit they should run out of wars to fight
[09:26:47] <crutchy> *forbid
[09:27:00] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[09:27:01] <pants--> ^ 03Metallica - Disposable Heroes (Studio Version) - YouTube
[09:28:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Bodies fill the fields I see, the slaughter never ends!
[09:29:09] <crutchy> seeing bits and pieces of what goes on in afghanistan in particular reminds me of that scene from enemy at the gates where the soviet soldiers were stuck in an impossible battlefield where if they advanced they were shot and if they retreated they were shot
[09:29:19] <Ethanol-fueled> a childhood buddy of mine was wounded in iraq.
[09:29:27] <Ethanol-fueled> a fat scar across his leg.
[09:29:33] <crutchy> ied?
[09:29:34] <Ethanol-fueled> I wrestled with him.
[09:29:37] <Ethanol-fueled> yup.
[09:29:42] <Ethanol-fueled> ied
[09:29:45] <crutchy> poor bastard
[09:29:58] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, fuck that.
[09:30:11] <Ethanol-fueled> we need to start marching congress off to war.
[09:30:17] <Ethanol-fueled> fucking cowards.
[09:30:31] <crutchy> i don't get why people keep volunteering. what do they think they're fighting for?
[09:31:14] <Ethanol-fueled> I volunteered, crutchy. With the understanding that I would not be placed in any danger.
[09:32:21] <crutchy> that's fine till they coax you over there. then when you can't turn back... 'oh sorry last minute change of plan...' and they give you a gun and put you in a humvee
[09:33:21] <crutchy> being in the US military is *the* danger
[09:33:54] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, being in the Army and Marines is the danger. Being in the Navy and Air force is some wicked-cool tech training.
[09:34:16] <Ethanol-fueled> but when you're in the Army and Marines, you get to play with weapons.
[09:34:17] <crutchy> prolly yeah they do have some neat toys
[09:34:27] <crutchy> (navy/usaf)
[09:35:03] <crutchy> hehe i guess there could be a lot of yanks that would jump at the chance to go shoot some ragheads
[09:35:35] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, those are phoney-toughs. Nobody WANTS to be shot at in a battlefield and be fucked in the head for life.
[09:35:45] <crutchy> unfortunately if they watch rambo they think the enemy is stupid, it will get them killed
[09:35:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Seeing your best friend shot in the head and the nerves of his body twitching him.
[09:36:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Seeing your other friends turned into hamburger.
[09:36:23] <crutchy> if only more people could see that before they volunteer
[09:39:28] <Ethanol-fueled> And thanks to modern life-prolonging technology, you too can see your grieviously-wounded friend last horrifically longer.
[09:40:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Missing Limbs.
[09:41:10] <crutchy> the US military has the biggest budget of any military in the world and has the best toys, but unfortunately it creates a false sense of security; proven time and time again when all it takes is a home-made bomb to destroy a multi-million dollar MRAP
[09:41:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Traumatic Brain Injuries.
[09:42:07] <Ethanol-fueled> The people in charge of the U.S. Military are insane, as are the folks fighting for it.
[09:42:12] <crutchy> (albeit a rather large home-made bomb, but home-made nonetheless)
[09:44:09] <crutchy> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[09:44:19] <crutchy> heh. the caption says 'all crew survived'
[09:44:37] <Ethanol-fueled> grrrrrugh. I'm disgusted with my country.
[09:45:41] <crutchy> a lot of people are disgusted with your country. well, not all of it. just the military mostly
[09:46:02] <SirFinkus> careful Ethanol-fueled, that doesn't sound very patriotic of you
[09:46:35] <crutchy> i'd has at a guess that more than 50% of the world's population hates the US military
[09:46:39] <JamesNZ> 'MURICA.
[09:46:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck the Anti-American fifth-columnists.
[09:47:00] <JamesNZ> crutchy: I think "hate" is a bit strong.
[09:47:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck Feinstein, fuck Boxer,
[09:48:00] <crutchy> JamesNZ, prolly for you and me it is. for those who's family members have been droned into oblivion as 'collateral damage' it might be pretty accurate
[09:48:32] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, it's hard to feel sympathy for Yemenis.
[09:48:46] <Ethanol-fueled> They are poor, after all.
[09:48:47] <crutchy> particularly when we have little knowledge of them
[09:48:49] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Well... that's not a significant percentage of the worlds population.
[09:49:02] <crutchy> JamesNZ, maybe it averages out or something :p
[09:49:30] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Ok, now you're just grasping at straws :P
[09:49:52] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, you sound angry. Join ISIS.
[09:49:59] <JamesNZ> People probably should be more pissed off at the British, at least 'murica had a civil war over slavery :P
[09:50:00] <crutchy> lol
[09:50:17] <Ethanol-fueled> get 4 wives. Fire off high-powered assault rifles.
[09:50:22] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, no way. i don't want john mccain to be proud of me
[09:51:01] <crutchy> he might think i'm some kind of "good extremist" and give me guns and money
[09:51:22] <Ethanol-fueled> GRRRRRR.
[09:51:40] <Ethanol-fueled> I fucking HATE McCain...Fifth-columnist scum.
[09:52:07] <Ethanol-fueled> March HIM in front of a tank in the Middle-East.
[09:52:12] * JamesNZ whispers soothing words to Ethanol-fueled
[09:52:29] <JamesNZ> Ethanol-fueled: He already served his time in Vietnam.
[09:52:47] <JamesNZ> (and was tortured, no less)
[09:52:48] <crutchy> and has forgotten every bit of it
[09:52:55] <Ethanol-fueled> JamesNZ, the fucking idiot learned all the wrong lessons.
[09:53:06] <JamesNZ> :P
[09:53:39] <Ethanol-fueled> America is insane. If you do not stop it, it will cause WWIII.
[09:53:47] <crutchy> "they tortured me guddammit! i'd rather they torture a bunch of young americans instead!"
[09:54:25] <JamesNZ> Wasn't he against torture?
[09:54:57] * Ethanol-fueled clenches fist in anger
[09:55:10] <crutchy> maybe once upon a time. now he would seem to want to send every man, woman and child who could hold a gun to the middle east
[09:55:53] <crutchy> but its not like they torture anyone over there :p
[09:55:55] <JamesNZ> Exaggerate much? :)
[09:56:23] <crutchy> everyone exaggerates to illustrate their point
[09:56:32] <crutchy> i'm sure you got my drift :p
[09:56:48] <JamesNZ> It did serve that purpose, yes :P
[09:57:09] <Ethanol-fueled> 16 law enforcement agencies went on a warrant sweep in my hometown.
[09:57:19] <crutchy> and they missed you?
[09:57:25] <Ethanol-fueled> yup :)
[09:57:26] <crutchy> :D
[09:57:41] <Ethanol-fueled> And the unlawful fishings.
[09:58:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Amerika is Kafka status.
[09:58:22] <crutchy> prolly cos you were walking around the streets naked while randomly firing an AR-15 in the air and puffing a joint
[09:58:48] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, you are wrong. That was a 12-gauge shotgun.
[09:58:50] <crutchy> they prolly saw you and thought... 'that guy is definitely a law abiding californian'
[10:01:23] * crutchy gets the feeling that his recent involvement in IRC has probably landed his IP address on multiple US federal agency watch lists
[10:02:36] <crutchy> to listening NSA stooge: Putin loves you!
[10:03:58] <crutchy> wtf?
[10:04:09] <crutchy> what's the go with this meta thingy?
[10:05:16] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[10:05:17] <pants--> ^ 03SN article:  Site Upgrade To Rehash 15.05 - Changelog and Incident Report 04(19 comments)
[10:05:28] <crutchy> ah
[10:05:55] <crutchy> ~queue
[10:05:59] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 7 - http://sylnt.us
[10:06:08] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[10:06:10] <pants--> ^ 03Metallica- Of Wolf and Man ( Official Remastered ) 5.1 - YouTube
[10:11:20] <crutchy> i have nfi how the damn comments feed works anymore
[10:11:24] <SirFinkus> /np
[10:11:28] <crutchy> seems to be still working though
[10:11:34] * SirFinkus is listening to Stoned Jesus — I'm the Mountain, from the album Seven Thunders Roar
[10:11:39] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[10:11:40] <pants--> ^ 03Metallica - Fade To Black (Live Shit: Binge Purge) [San Diego '92] (Part 16) [HD] - YouTube
[10:16:31] <crutchy> http://www.electronicsweekly.com
[10:16:33] <pants--> ^ 03Radar probes through 2 miles of Antarctic ice | Electronics Weekly
[10:22:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Black Cow
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[13:54:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://danluu.com funny but not funny.
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[15:39:00] <pants--> ^ 03Patriot Announces Viper 4 16 GB DIMMs, 128GB Kits
[15:39:11] <takyon> get your 16 GB DIMMs
[15:39:21] <takyon> 8 GB is a legacy of the past
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[15:39:41] <n1> useless old shite
[15:47:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~woop
[15:48:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> damn bots.
[15:50:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> !woop
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[16:28:45] <takyon> http://www.theplatform.net
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[16:51:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Fucking heavy metal.
[17:04:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> Ethanol-fueled: fuck yeah \m/ METAL UP YER ASS!
[17:04:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Metal up your ass rocks.
[17:05:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> https://www.reverbnation.com
[17:05:22] <pants--> ^ 03Traitor's Gate Music, Lyrics, Songs, and Videos
[17:06:19] * AndyTheAbsurd goes back to working
[17:06:34] <Ethanol-fueled> WORK?! Work is for suckers!
[17:07:12] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAH, no more work this year. It's time to walk the neighborhood in a stupor.
[17:07:18] <Ethanol-fueled> 'Tis a beautiful day.
[17:08:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Emerson, Lake, and Palmer ROCK!
[17:11:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yeah I already spent a month and a half unemployed this year
[17:11:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> and I have a wife who's got medical issues
[17:12:04] <Ethanol-fueled> aw, that sucks.
[17:12:18] <Ethanol-fueled> gotta have dat COBRA
[17:12:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> If it was just me on my own, I'd probably be at the point where I only worked 8 to 10 months out of the year and lived off of savings the rest of the time.
[17:13:53] <Ethanol-fueled> I worked for a good 5 years with my last gig. I was the only person laid off who was allowed to walk around the building saying goodbye because I volunteered to be laid off.
[17:14:49] <Ethanol-fueled> now it's schoolwork, rediscovering Dostoevsky, and listening to the Grateful Dead
[17:18:24] <n1> AndyTheAbsurd, family ruins the good times
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[20:40:45] <takyon> http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:04] <K_benzoate> This might be the stupidest collection of "thoughts" about the NSA/Patriot act I've ever read. http://www.salon.com
[20:55:05] <pants--> ^ 03What if Rand Paul were Muslim? The white, privileged assumptions behind his Patriot Act ?principles? - Salon.com
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[20:56:13] <takyon> wow
[20:56:22] <K_benzoate> NSA spying is good because it treats white people as criminals by default too! Now they can have some of their "white privilege" taken away.
[20:56:27] <TLA> aloha
[20:56:52] <takyon> It's the rare fusion of SJW and government shill
[20:57:01] <takyon> who also happens to have been a double agent
[20:57:19] <takyon> so we know he's trained in disinfo
[20:57:19] <K_benzoate> SJWs are all petty dictators at heart.
[20:57:31] <TLA> have I just wandered in to a FMOTL monthly?
[20:58:06] <takyon> http://www.salon.com
[20:58:32] <K_benzoate> I don't know. Unpack that initialism.
[20:59:56] <takyon> this article is the most intense flame ever ignited
[21:00:07] <takyon> hot enough to cut through steel beams
[21:00:24] <TLA> FMOTL=Freeman On The Land, a relatively recent British subculture with some frankly bizarre interpretations of the Law
[21:01:42] <K_benzoate> The thesis of that article, if you can call it that, is based on a false dilemma.
[21:02:03] <K_benzoate> We don't have to choose between racist profiling OR NSA surveillance; we can reject both.
[21:02:26] <K_benzoate> Or more likely we will get both.
[21:02:55] <takyon> also, does mass surveillance lead to "objective analysis"
[21:03:02] <takyon> ask the fusion centers
[21:05:45] <TLA> the Law must apply equally to all or it applies to none. Mass surveillance, if it's to be a "thing", must be total and it must be nonspecific, ie no profiling for targetted surveillance. The only way this happens in the US is to repeal the 4th Amendment.
[21:06:32] <takyon> mass surveillance has thrived pretty well even with the 4th amendment.
[21:07:11] <takyon> even if NSA stops "collecting it all" and shuts down Room 641a, etc. they can just computerize the rubber stamping of warrants
[21:07:45] <TLA> no, currently you have hte option to avoid it. This is why hats are still legal. With TIA (Total Information Awareness) you'd lose your hat and every time you pass a camera your image would be captured and you can be identified.
[21:08:26] <TLA> we haven't had hte privilege of hiding under hats in the UK for years.
[21:08:49] <K_benzoate> In 100 years we'll have something like, but more powerful than, fMRI that works at a distance. Imagine how bad it'll be when big brother can even reach inside your head and look around for ungood thoughts.
[21:08:59] <TLA> every time you walk into a public building here, where there's private security and CCTV they demand that you remove your hat.
[21:09:40] <K_benzoate> Tell them it's a religious garment
[21:10:17] <takyon> they'll just use neutrinos to look through your hat
[21:10:25] <TLA> only one place you'd get away with a hat for religious reasons, and that's North London.
[21:11:29] <K_benzoate> In the USA, people have taken their driver's license photo wearing a pasta colander and it's held up as a legitimate religious garment, Pastafarianism.
[21:12:24] <n1> it's only religion in the UK if the organization has a degree of wealth or other form of institutional power
[21:12:50] <n1> errr
[21:12:59] <n1> i mean, I <3 The UK and all it's insitutions!
[21:13:05] <n1> everything is perfct over here
[21:13:09] <TLA> hehe
[21:13:14] <n1> no problems at all, god bless the government
[21:13:25] <TLA> oh yes, long live the King!
[21:13:28] <K_benzoate> One of the first people to try it was a former porn actress. http://www.usatoday.com
[21:13:32] <pants--> ^ 03Ex-porn star OK'd to wear colander in DMV photo
[21:14:35] <TLA> keep calm and pay your council tax even though it's going up by 1.9% again just to avoid having to hold a public referendum.
[21:14:46] <n1> nah, thats not possible
[21:14:52] <n1> the government froze council tax
[21:14:57] <n1> thats what they told me anyways...
[21:15:09] <K_benzoate> I'm not familiar with that kind of tax, what is it?
[21:15:24] <TLA> although it looks like West Midlands police are having to beg for more money and push local authorities to hold referendums to jack CT by nearly 5%
[21:16:24] <n1> Spending Review: council tax frozen for two years until 2016
[21:16:31] <n1> http://www.telegraph.co.uk
[21:16:32] <pants--> ^ 03Spending Review: Council tax frozen for two years until 2016 - Telegraph
[21:16:46] <K_benzoate> So it's like our state and local taxes.
[21:16:53] <n1> frozen, except for the rises
[21:17:00] <TLA> council tax is the new name for an old tax, previously known as window tax (look it up), it was reintroduced as poll tax and caused riots, where it was subsequently pulled and reintroduced with a campaign of brightly coloured leaflets and a massive TV campaign.
[21:17:05] <n1> god bless that government again
[21:17:36] <n1> TLA, still have the poll tax debate quite frequently at family meals..
[21:17:44] <n1> always a good topic on sunday...
[21:17:56] <TLA> oh yes, same here
[21:18:22] <K_benzoate> Oh so it's like property taxes that we have in the USA
[21:18:46] <n1> K_benzoate, in theory to pay for local services
[21:19:15] <K_benzoate> Ours mostly go to schools and roads.
[21:19:51] <TLA> yeah basically it pays for social services/CPS, police, fire & rescue service, civil engineering and sanitation
[21:20:28] <n1> "As of 2011, the average annual levy on a property in England was £1,196"
[21:20:30] <TLA> road fund tax (per vehicle) pays for road maintenance here, although a lot of roads are being sold to private companies
[21:21:59] <n1> *varies depending on your vehicles co2 emissions
[21:22:00] <n1> ;)
[21:22:30] <n1> i love how if my car was a few months newer, it would be half the tax, because they tweaked the ECU or some bullshit.
[21:23:06] <TLA> brb, I think my scroll's broken
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[21:23:36] <TLA> aaand... it's gone.
[21:23:40] <n1> wb
[21:23:45] <TLA> :)
[21:23:53] <TLA> channel wasn't scrolling properly
[21:24:30] <n1> incase you missed it, i mentioned that the road tax depends on your emissions, and also complained that if my car was slightly newer, but exactly the same in all but an ECU tweak
[21:24:33] <n1> i'd pay half the road tax
[21:25:26] <n1> because i'm not doing for getting a new car every couple of years on a lease/finance deal, i have to pay more, for not stimulating the financial services sector of the economy
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[21:26:04] <TLA> yeah, unfortunately that's the one growth industry this country has left now. That and kiddie trafficking.
[21:26:18] <LaDarius> what country, TLA?
[21:26:21] <TLA> UK
[21:26:39] <LaDarius> Hey, at least you Britbongs are standing up to the EU now.
[21:27:02] <takyon> ethan/pol/fueled
[21:27:12] <n1> yeah, just in time for it to make no difference and the TTIP will rule over all instead.
[21:27:25] <n1> err yet again, i mean, everything is awesome, <3 the UK.
[21:27:49] <takyon> that's a pretty good song
[21:28:16] <LaDarius> takyon, when I first started browsing Slashdot, I was a Pro-Israel Liberal Democrat. No joke.
[21:28:23] <TLA> I don't know what's worse, the fact that Cameron is kissing the arses of the entire Europrean Parliament in turn (as in he hasn't just fucked 'em all off yet), or the fact that somehow he got in on a minority AGAIN AFTER having YET AGAIN declared his undying loyalty to ISRAEL!
[21:28:57] <n1> LaDarius, simpler times
[21:29:03] <TLA> pardon my blue, it just makes me so mad that apparently 7 million people got it so wrong.
[21:29:20] <LaDarius> TLA, even as an American I was kinda bummed about your election results.
[21:29:24] <LaDarius> Status quo city.
[21:29:31] <n1> people talk a good game
[21:29:36] <n1> but fear rules the day
[21:29:47] <n1> if there was a change between the "vote labour, vote tory"
[21:29:50] <n1> what would we do?
[21:29:56] <LaDarius> n1, things have been shitty lately, but there is some pushback.
[21:30:01] <n1> we have decades of rhetoric to fall back on
[21:30:04] <n1> that would be useless overnight
[21:30:13] <n1> voting for the old faithfuls are like a warm blanket
[21:30:14] <LaDarius> I'm confident that things will become at least a little better before they get worse.
[21:30:23] <TLA> here's how broken first past the post is: UKIP: 3.5 million votes, ONE seat. SNP (Scottish Nationalist Party): 1.5 million votes, FIFTY SIX SEATS.
[21:30:24] <takyon> I wouldn't count on elections to solve your problems. Technical solutions are far better
[21:30:37] <n1> TLA, push back to a point
[21:30:39] <n1> and that point is
[21:30:47] <n1> "labour cant get in again if SNP is strong"
[21:30:51] <n1> proves FPTP works
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[21:33:01] <n1> a line was drawn under electoral reform when they offered us AV, which no one would want
[21:33:27] <n1> also proves FPTP works, and there is no other alternatives because PR is stupid for some reason.
[21:34:15] <n1> everyone i spoke to on this topic, at least those over 40
[21:34:22] <n1> all have the same answer
[21:34:23] <TLA> but the SNP has 1/12 of the total voting strength in the Commons chamber, representing 1/40th of the adult population of the country. UKIP represents 1/12 of the adult population and has 1/650 vote. How does that work again? Proportional representation would reverse the situation and give a much more balanced voting bias.
[21:34:24] <n1> "that is democracy"
[21:35:06] <n1> i will say again what i was told
[21:35:12] <n1> when i brought up that point with different people
[21:35:13] <n1> "that is democracy"
[21:35:28] <TLA> democracy? Has something to do with old men sending young men to die in some other man's desert.
[21:35:34] <n1> apparently so
[21:36:11] <n1> logic has no place in politics
[21:36:20] <n1> i dont understand how people do the mental gymnastics to justify the situation
[21:36:35] <n1> except that they have to, otherwise it undermines everything they were taught to believe in
[21:36:59] <n1> remember, if you dont vote, you cant complain
[21:37:12] <n1> but you can vote for evil, and then complain about that same evil, because you voted
[21:37:36] <TLA> I did vote, I'm the only person I know personally who voted, and that pisses me off.
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[21:38:07] <K_benzoate> Everyone in my family asks me who they should vote for.
[21:38:18] <n1> Everyone in my family tells me to vote tory
[21:38:36] <n1> http://metro.co.uk
[21:38:37] <pants--> ^ 03General Election results: Voter draws massive penis on ballot paper ? gets counted and helps elect Tory MP | Metro News
[21:39:29] <TLA> I just drew a single vertical line through all the boxes - in PEN - and wrote "NONE OF THE ABOVE" across the ballot.
[21:39:32] <n1> i could vote, but in a safest of safe tory seat, i think contributing to this site has far more impact
[21:39:54] <n1> yet the family, even in this safest of safe tory seat
[21:40:09] <n1> were so paranoid about anything but a tory majority it was like the worst thing in the world to imagine making a protest vote
[21:40:46] <n1> TLA, i was out the country at the time, but i would have voted for the LibDems in 2010, that worked out super
[21:41:04] <TLA> craziest thing is, my MP (Greenwood) sent me a card last xmas (I don't do xmas), I've had more interaction with Hemming than her!
[21:41:15] <n1> between watching Obama over in the USA and the LibDem performance in government
[21:41:27] <n1> jaded doesn't even begin to describe it
[21:42:27] <n1> also, Boris Johnson as mayor of london
[21:42:33] <n1> it's been a great introduction to democracy...
[21:42:46] <TLA> jaded isn't the dangerous part, it's when apathy kicked in - that's when everything's boned.
[21:42:55] <n1> support people, who win, to get fucked in the ass by it... i dont know how people drink the koolaid for decades.
[21:43:34] <TLA> Johnson as mayor of london AND an MP, let's look at this object lesson in conflict of interests...
[21:43:35] <LaDarius> I'm excited at the prospect of Rand Paul for prez, but also jaded because "hope and change" is the same bullshit tagline that got Obama elected twice.
[21:43:44] <n1> if it wasn't for reading insightful comments on a few websites, including here
[21:43:49] <n1> i think i would be apathetic
[21:44:26] <n1> just when im on the edge of giving up and saying fuck it all, i read something that inspires me to keep on trying to spread awareness and engage with people on political topics
[21:44:46] <n1> TLA, it might be me being overly cynical
[21:44:59] <n1> but i see Boris Johnson as the UK's version of GWB
[21:45:15] <TLA> yeah often it's an external viewpoint that gets me thinking about things from another angle and seeing things that well, basically, I've been staring at that float for so long I didn't notice when the tip disappeared
[21:45:25] <LaDarius> Hahahah! I love Dees Illustrations.
[21:45:36] <LaDarius> http://thehollowearthinsider.com
[21:46:11] <TLA> Johnson isn't a mop-headed dumbass, he's a shrewd fucker. Think Gates on acid. He's got his five year plans laid out for the next thirty.
[21:47:05] <n1> oh indeed
[21:47:16] <n1> same could be said for the Bush dynasty
[21:47:38] <TLA> yep. Jeb's next. Watch this space.
[21:48:01] <n1> TLA, did you see Frankie Boyles election review or whatever it was called?
[21:48:29] <TLA> it'll be Bush-Clinton-Schwarzenegger-Paul-Manuel the cleaner who comes on Thursdays.
[21:49:04] <TLA> oh, yes... the post mortem thingy?
[21:49:06] <LaDarius> It will be some establishment stooge with a touch of novelty, like Rubio or Cruz.
[21:49:10] <n1> yeah
[21:49:19] <n1> i thought he was very good
[21:49:26] <TLA> saw it, don't remember much, I think I might have been in a sort of foggy shock.
[21:49:29] <n1> not a fan of his either, but he did pretty well
[21:49:44] <LaDarius> If jeb wins I'm going full cat-5 chimpout.
[21:49:52] <n1> the two women who were the 'balance' to him, were very annoying though
[21:49:54] <LaDarius> Rioting and shit.
[21:49:54] <TLA> that was probably more due to Al Murray only getting 30 votes tho
[21:50:02] <n1> 'you have to vote for the lesser evil' was the best they could come up with
[21:50:21] <n1> and that annoying american woman 'if you voted ed milliband could have been PM!'
[21:50:36] <LaDarius> n1, the way this American sees it, you're fucked either way, so you might as well vote for your principles even though your dog ain't gonna win the fight.
[21:51:08] <n1> i was told by someone, in the political system
[21:51:18] <n1> that i am not represented, because i am not worth courting for a vote
[21:51:24] <LaDarius> Americans are fucked either way is what I meant to say. I don't know enough about Brit politics to determine whether or not they're fucked.
[21:51:29] <n1> as i hold a minority point of view
[21:51:34] <TLA> problem is in a two party system you've got to go with the lesser of two evils... there's no such thing as "none of the above", the incumbent would walk it.
[21:51:59] <LaDarius> TLA, fuck that. Fuck strategic voting.
[21:52:12] <LaDarius> Lester Maddox for president!
[21:52:15] <n1> when i made the point about there is no one representing me, it was because 'why would they, you're on the edge, much more important to court the swing voters'
[21:52:42] <n1> not in those words, but that was the point made
[21:54:09] <n1> there is no 'small government, invidual liberty and freedom' perspective in the UK
[21:55:31] <n1> lesser of two evils just means they can get a little more evil every time and you cant do shit
[21:55:33] <TLA> my mum told me about an ice hockey tour she followed a couple years ago, there's England, France, Italy and Slovenia in a four way league. England needed like 28 goals clear to win outright, Italy and Slovenia knew they couldn't let that happen so Italy - with easily the best team on the league - called in the reserve netminder and threw the game 30-0. Nothing England could do because there was no paper trail
[21:55:40] <n1> so it's just a case of how quick we want to march to tyranny
[21:55:47] <Leebert> ALthough I'm an American, I can honestly say that I would have hated life if Ed Miliband had ended up as PM.
[21:56:05] <n1> or not even that, what spin you want on the tyranny
[21:56:05] <TLA> Slovenia won that one by just ONE point
[21:57:00] <LaDarius> Damn TLA, that's straight crooked in an open way.
[21:57:20] <LaDarius> n1, Big government is not a bad thing as long as it functions well.
[21:57:47] <n1> i agree generally
[21:57:55] <n1> but the way we're trying to solve that is having a big government that doesnt work well
[21:57:58] <n1> so lets make it bigger
[21:58:02] <TLA> yep, were it me I would have been SOOO bummed out. I don't drink, but I'd've been knocking back the strongest shit I could lay my hands on.
[21:58:03] <n1> and eventually it will be big enough to work well
[21:58:13] <n1> much like how QE works
[21:58:16] <LaDarius> yeah, good point N1. It's like cancer.
[21:58:35] <n1> also noted the CBI report about 'business stepping up a few gears'
[21:58:39] <n1> with no data to back it up that i saw
[21:58:39] <LaDarius> At some point you gotta stop the growth and figure out a way to do things more efficiently.
[21:58:57] <n1> except one point about 'momentum in the eurozone' happens to be at the same time ECB QE started
[21:59:25] <LaDarius> n1, it's the same thing in America. News about the "economy picking up" because McDonalds and Wal-Mart are hiring seasonal workers.
[21:59:51] <LaDarius> never mind that domestic manufacturing has been gutted.
[21:59:55] <n1> official statistics say it's slowing
[22:00:07] * LaDarius can't complain about being laid off, though...*smokes joint*
[22:00:08] <n1> but the CBI has but a no-data spin on it saying they talked to 800 businesses
[22:00:12] <n1> and things are going awesome
[22:00:50] <n1> "In April official figures revealed the UK economy grew by 0.3% in the first three months of 2015, which marked the slowest quarterly growth for two years."
[22:00:59] <n1> "UK exports are likely to be helped by renewed momentum in the euro area but the stronger pound and weak demand in many overseas markets continue to pose challenges."
[22:01:03] <n1> see how it works...
[22:01:03] <TLA> only 800 businesses? I could throw a stone in any direction and hit 800 businesses.
[22:01:37] <n1> CBI can't possibly be bias, wouldn't dare try and massage the numbers to help the government
[22:02:34] <n1> just like the BoE wouldn't purposefully leak data about the EU exit to help convince the population the gov is serious and the referendum will have real meaning
[22:03:28] <n1> "The Confederation of British Industry is a UK business organisation, which in total speaks for 190,000 businesses"
[22:03:45] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[22:03:45] <pants--> ^ 03Supreme Court Sides With Immigrant Caught With Pills In His Sock : It's All Politics : NPR
[22:04:17] <TLA> DTI's own numbers, if they're to be believed: 30 million workforce. Department for Children: 11.5 million children. DWP: 10 million pensioners. Total UK population: 60 million (round figure). Subtract others from the total, that leaves 8.5 million unemployed. That's NOT 2% unemployment the Government claims.
[22:04:47] <n1> IDS would tell you to STFU and swallow
[22:05:20] <TLA> I would just clench my buttcheeks together and snap the sanctimonious cunt's cock off.
[22:05:39] <n1> only reason im making any money at the moment (self employed, small business owner) is because of Middle East money investing into the housing bubble in the south east.
[22:05:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> TLA: you know that children and pensioners are generally not counted in unemployment numbers...right?
[22:06:04] <LaDarius> hahah n1 is a slumlord
[22:06:35] <TLA> Andy, that's why I subtracted them as well.
[22:06:36] <LaDarius> andytheabsurd - in Amerika people who have given up looking for work are not counted amongst the unemployed.
[22:07:01] <n1> Landon, maybe i could aspire to that
[22:07:09] <n1> thats what the DailyMail is telling me to aspire to anyway
[22:07:15] <n1> should get me some of that buy-to-let action
[22:07:15] <TLA> if I'd made hat kind of error I'd've ended up claiming that 30 million people are unemployed.
[22:08:03] <AndyTheAbsurd> oh...guess I didn't read enough scrollback, then. (Just what was visible below my browser window, which is only a handful of lines)
[22:08:24] <TLA> ask yourself though, how many of that apparently gainfully employed 30-million-strong workforce are on zero hours contracts?
[22:08:44] <n1> and how many have been forced into self-employment and are earning shit
[22:09:05] <n1> but because it's self-employment, it's just a job so it counts and also shows how so many are hard working business minded people
[22:09:21] <n1> before i really went out on my own 3 years ago
[22:09:28] <n1> i saw it all, it's a fucking scam the whole way around
[22:09:54] <TLA> and how many have been cut cold by the DWP and have to take whatever cash in hand work comes their way? I count myself in this segment, as that's the situation I'm in and have been in for the past fifteen months - technically it's known as abject poverty.
[22:10:25] <n1> :(
[22:12:09] <n1> i know people who have picked up work in the last couple of years after struggling
[22:12:19] <n1> but they're all on low wages, 0 hours or self employed
[22:12:29] <LaDarius> that sucks.
[22:12:31] <n1> and having to rely on the welfare state to keep them available
[22:12:39] <TLA> I'll disclose now, I make money by doing paper research and by writing legal documents. Lately I've photoshot a wedding and I'm in the middle of decorating a house. I feel very underutilised, and that's a very bad thing for me, but at least I'm out doing *something* just to be able to eat.
[22:13:23] <LaDarius> TLA, if you get a real job, you'll certainly miss doing what you're doing now for money.
[22:13:29] <n1> 1%ers hire these people im talking about, pay them shit knowing the tab will be picked up elsewhere
[22:13:35] <n1> because fuck them if they're going to get paid a living wage
[22:13:51] <LaDarius> n1, if I had family (as many men my age do), I'd be fucked.
[22:14:23] <n1> LaDarius, same
[22:14:36] <LaDarius> Not being able to reproduce or hold a long-term relationship is probably the only reason why my chin is above water right now.
[22:15:08] <LaDarius> (not including the 15K in student loans I'm gonna hafta pay back after I graduate)
[22:15:38] <n1> the economy is a ponzi scheme
[22:15:47] <LaDarius> n1, it's economic voodoo.
[22:15:57] <n1> the work i mentioned before, that im doing
[22:16:02] <n1> continues to price me out of existing
[22:16:20] <TLA> I would love a full time, salaried job. There's fuck all about though. Litigation assistance is rare work, but there's no way I'll allow myself to be constrained by the Law Society by going to work for a Panel member. When I write I write the truth as I see it, not how someone else orders me to frame it to fit someone else's wider agenda
[22:16:22] <n1> the value i can add, prices me out of having my own home or any stability
[22:17:14] <n1> i could do better, if i lived somewhere else, but obligations to the older generations of the family keep me stuck here at the moment
[22:17:24] <TLA> and I've written some absolutely awesome legal arguments
[22:17:29] <LaDarius> that sucks n1.
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[22:18:37] <n1> the old world of salaried employment is over
[22:18:39] <n1> or at best on its way out
[22:19:00] <LaDarius> Welp, time to move to Iceland.
[22:19:39] <TLA> mmm, that'd be nice, I'd probably do better in say West Africa though - I don't do cold.
[22:19:43] <n1> going to move somewhere
[22:19:54] <LaDarius> Or some tiny polynesian island where I can kill all the men and rape all the women, and raise my own private army. I'll call it "Zanzibar," or "Outer Heaven."
[22:19:58] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:19:58] <pants--> Karma - coffee: 278
[22:19:59] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:19:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1398
[22:20:00] <n1> but am quite trapped right now
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[22:20:15] <n1> however if things work out, i will be able to take work with me in the next year
[22:20:33] <TLA> or you could call it "Davidianville"? "Jonestown"?
[22:20:55] <crutchy> or California
[22:21:24] <TLA> bb, food calling me.
[22:21:40] <LaDarius> I'm stuck here in San Diego because of its tech industry. Honestly, if I could get a tech job in Oregon or Washington I'd probably move there.
[22:21:57] <crutchy> washington has macroshaft
[22:22:05] <crutchy> you could become a dalek
[22:22:08] <n1> unless things really go well, a life on the road is the best i can hope for
[22:22:11] <LaDarius> and Boeing, but not much else.
[22:22:21] <LaDarius> And I don't want a security clearance again.
[22:22:22] <n1> unless i want to join in on the ol' debt slavery
[22:22:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> LaDarius: you could at least move to San Francisco, which has a HUGE tech sector.
[22:22:48] <crutchy> or san jose
[22:22:49] <LaDarius> andytheabsurd, I hate traffic. San Diego's traffic is bad enough.
[22:22:52] <crutchy> or whatever its called
[22:23:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> Then move to Boston and take the MBTA everywhere. Some other asshole gets to deal with the traffic. :)
[22:23:29] <LaDarius> I need physical technology, not just programming stuff. It'd be like going to Hollywood and trying to become an actor.
[22:23:30] <crutchy> move to dc and become a lobbyist. its probably the best job in the country atm
[22:23:54] <LaDarius> sheeeit, crutchy, gimme a law degree and I might.
[22:24:18] <n1> dont think you need a law degree to become a lobbyist
[22:24:21] <LaDarius> andytheabsurd - there's a lot of good underwater electronic work in that area, but not much else./
[22:24:33] <LaDarius> Woods hole, Hydroid, FSI, etc.
[22:24:34] <crutchy> just tell everyone you're part of a minority and you're in
[22:24:46] <LaDarius> Bluefin
[22:25:12] <n1> tell everyone what they want to hear
[22:26:03] <n1> if you can spin bad data into good news, and somehow tie that to the internet of things and data security
[22:26:06] <n1> im sure there's a job out there
[22:26:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> There's more than that. A lot of it (Raytheon and a bunch others) does require security clearance.
[22:26:24] * AndyTheAbsurd wonders if anybody he knew at Teradyne is still there
[22:26:31] <crutchy> as long as you don't believe in liberty or sound money or any of that garbage that helps build free countries. i think rand paul has become the villain of washington since his stance against the "patriot" act
[22:26:39] <LaDarius> andytheabsurd, I just got laid off from teledyne
[22:26:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> Teradyne != Teledyne.
[22:27:02] <LaDarius> I know that, but still
[22:27:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> (although I knew one guy at Teledyne as well.)
[22:27:22] <crutchy> teradyne is how kim jong il pronounces teledyne
[22:27:47] <LaDarius> teledyne rocked. Their imaging systems division made the sensor for the .50 cal bullet that can manuver around walls.
[22:28:04] <LaDarius> Now that I'm laid off and have nothing to lose, I'll show you all where I worked.
[22:28:28] <crutchy> .50 cal bullet that can maneuverer?
[22:28:33] <K_benzoate> Why did they let you go?
[22:28:36] <crutchy> sounds like a DARPA thing
[22:28:59] <LaDarius> K_benzoate, the reaons are long and complicated. The short answer is that I volunteered.
[22:29:01] <crutchy> like that robot dog that is going to evolve into the terminator
[22:29:12] <LaDarius> The conditions were very favorable to me.
[22:29:50] <LaDarius> Teledyne is a conglomerate that basically buys startups or other niche technology so that competition is minimized.
[22:30:06] <n1> free market ftw
[22:30:18] * AndyTheAbsurd wonders which of these Philip K. Dick books to read first.
[22:30:23] <TLA> .50 doesn't need to go round, ever seen what 660 grains does to an engine block?
[22:30:29] <LaDarius> http://www.rdinstruments.com
[22:30:30] <pants--> ^ 03Teledyne RDI's Workhorse Ocean Surveyor ADCP ( http://www.rdinstruments.com )
[22:30:46] <LaDarius> TLA, but they built it because they could. And they did.
[22:30:51] <crutchy> if i see arnold swartzanegger shooting up the boston dynamics engineering offices i will know that judgement day has been temporarily averted
[22:31:16] <n1> lol
[22:31:17] <ciri> hahaha
[22:31:19] <K_benzoate> AndyTheAbsurd: Do you have The Man in the High Castle?
[22:31:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> K_benzoate: yup, remember seeing that as I was going through unRARing stuff.
[22:32:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> (adding them all to Calibre now so that I can move them to my Kindle.)
[22:32:25] <LaDarius> This is what Oracle Black and Oracle White have for navigation with respect to the bottom of the seas:
[22:32:27] <LaDarius> http://www.rdinstruments.com
[22:32:27] <pants--> ^ 03Teledyne RDI's Explorer Doppler Velocity Log
[22:32:45] <LaDarius> Larry ellison's fucking yachts.
[22:33:30] <LaDarius> They had the phased array version, they weren't self-enclosed and flooded the electronics when they capsized.
[22:33:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> ugh, gotta fix a lot of metadata because Calibre is stupid.
[22:33:53] <LaDarius> Thanks for your 20K larry.
[22:41:00] <LaDarius> And in case you don't believe me about Teledyne developing a 50 cal bullet that can fire around walls:
[22:41:01] <LaDarius> http://www.dailymail.co.uk
[22:41:02] <pants--> ^ 03US Military develops first-ever guided .50 caliber bullets | Daily Mail Online
[22:45:00] <LaDarius> https://www.youtube.com
[22:45:02] <pants--> ^ 03DARPA EXACTO Test - Self-Guided .50-cal Rounds - YouTube
[22:45:07] <LaDarius> Holy jesus.
[22:48:46] <takyon> how much side-to-side movement can it travel per X meters distance fired
[22:49:40] <LaDarius> takyon, ask them. They'd be happy to tell you.
[22:50:20] <takyon> i hope they are going to test it on journalists like they did with the Active Denial System
[22:50:49] <TLA> http://armyrecognition.com
[22:50:53] <pants--> ^ 03EXACTO Guided bullet demonstrates repeatable performance against moving targets 2904152 | weapons defence industry military technology UK | analyse focus army defence military industry army
[22:51:56] <TLA> off-target firing while optically locked on a target resulted in consistent hits on-target. Damn.
[22:52:04] <paulej72> I wish NCommander would come back online
[22:52:26] <takyon> so you wish pain on NCommander
[22:52:29] <TLA> site problems?
[22:53:13] <paulej72> Well trying to kill the biggest of the bugs left from ysterday's upgrade to rehash
[22:54:04] <paulej72> Got what seems like most of them, but we still have a problem with getting nexus info reliably.
[22:54:30] <LaDarius> Don't kick yourself pauley.
[22:54:39] <paulej72> NCommander set some debug vars and I want to see where he set them so I can see what he was seeing.
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[23:01:54] <NCommander> paulej72, I just gome home
[23:02:04] <paulej72> yay
[23:02:14] <NCommander> paulej72, I was watching on the site for breakage, but a small favor turned out to take seven horus >.>;
[23:02:24] <paulej72> I got a bunch of the bugs fixed
[23:02:54] <NCommander> paulej72, you're in PA right, I feel an urge to hand deliver a six pack
[23:03:20] <paulej72> I am trying to track down the issue with getSkins returning a set of skins minus the mainpage
[23:03:37] <NCommander> paulej72, that's where my brain melted last night
[23:03:38] <paulej72> NCommander: in Princeton, NJ most of the time
[23:03:48] <NCommander> paulej72, oh perfect, i can just take NJTransit when I get to NYC
[23:04:23] <paulej72> NCommander: I saw you set som data dumpers, do you remember where. your dumps consistenly have the missing mainpage skin
[23:05:52] <paulej72> NCommander: we also need to clean up the skin vs section code as it a fuxking mess. I am just fixing the big holes for now.
[23:06:09] <NCommander> paulej72, I think something is checking primaryskid and excluding it
[23:06:24] <NCommander> IMHO, burning primaryskid with fire might be the way to go, its relatively pointless
[23:06:58] <paulej72> primaryskid is what stories use to set thier nexus
[23:07:35] * LaDarius brings the secondary bottle of booze.
[23:08:16] <paulej72> what I am seeing is that getSkins will show the 3 skins for some time, then start showing only 2 and 3. it is like the cache is overwritten with improper data
[23:08:30] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, which is why we occassionalyy get correct behavior
[23:08:32] <NCommander> And sometimes don
[23:08:34] <NCommander> t
[23:08:44] <paulej72> and getSkins is called like one million times a page it seems like
[23:08:46] <NCommander> I need to write a report on the amount of clusterfuckery I did in RL today
[23:08:54] <NCommander> Then I can dedicate the rest of the evening to SN debugging
[23:09:46] <paulej72> sure, NCommander but do you remember where you set those dumpers?
[23:09:54] <NCommander> paulej72, in the getSkins() function
[23:10:05] <NCommander> git diff would find them, I didn't commit them
[23:10:19] <NCommander> I may have set a second one in getSection as well on dev
[23:10:24] <paulej72> I was there but I did not see them.
[23:10:37] <paulej72> get section that is probably it.
[23:10:43] <paulej72> thanks
[23:10:48] <NCommander> paulej72, I would have pushed from the src/ncommander-rehash bthing
[23:10:53] <NCommander> folder on lithium
[23:11:18] <paulej72> i have been editing the live files and restarted on dev :)
[23:11:30] <paulej72> quicker turnaround
[23:18:54] <SirFinkus> lol slashdot.jp went "beta"
[23:20:51] <takyon> we need a jp nexus
[23:21:16] <SirFinkus> now it's http://srad.jp
[23:21:18] <pants--> ^ 03スラド -- アレゲなニュースと雑談サイト
[23:22:58] <LaDarius> https://www.youtube.com
[23:22:58] <pants--> ^ 03Arcade Longplay [275] NAM-1975 - YouTube
[23:23:16] <SirFinkus> looks like it's pretty much the same, just switched the name and the theme a bit
[23:25:33] <NCommander> O_o;
[23:26:20] <LaDarius> https://www.youtube.com
[23:27:05] <SirFinkus> and I though soylent had an ugly color scheme...
[23:28:08] <takyon> what can brown do for you
[23:28:33] * n1 is very glad the Black Iclcle theme exists
[23:28:54] <takyon> #VT100
[23:29:39] <n1> vintage
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[23:38:19] * NCommander notes we knew this upgrade was going to be pain but ugh
[23:38:23] <NCommander> the breakage, its over 9000
[23:39:23] <JamesNZ> 9000++
[23:39:23] <Bender> karma - 9000: 1
[23:46:31] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[23:46:34] <pants--> ^ 03Enrique Iglesias injured in concert drone mishap - BBC News
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[23:49:00] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[23:49:03] <pants--> ^ 03'Virgin-born' sawfish are a first in the wild - BBC News
[23:54:18] <Landon> freenode up for anyone else?
[23:54:26] <JamesNZ> Works here.
[23:54:40] <Landon> how about ipv6.irc.freenode.net? :\
[23:55:26] * JamesNZ isn't sure about that
[23:55:46] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[23:55:47] <pants--> ^ 03'Moon shot' call on clean energy - BBC News
[23:57:41] <Landon> ugh
[23:57:45] <Landon> irc.freenode.net doesn't work either
[23:57:51] <Landon> what did I do for all this hate, freenode :|
[23:57:56] <Landon> ping works in a timely fashion
[23:58:03] <Landon> but it's like I've been greylisted from irc itself
[23:58:33] <JamesNZ> K-lined, you are!
[23:59:05] <Landon> nope
[23:59:08] <Landon> at least, no notification
[23:59:30] <Landon> just a little bit after I got off the computer for the night: 02:09:52 [freenode] No PONG reply from server ipv6.irc.freenode.net in 121 seconds, disconnecting
[23:59:58] <Landon> oh ffs