#Soylent | Logs for 2015-05-29
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[00:04:43] <chromas> poor Bender
[00:04:58] * chromas gives Bender a booze
[00:10:12] <juggs> SirFinkus, how did the back of that piece of insulation tape entertain you? :P
[00:16:50] <SirFinkus> ?
[00:18:45] <juggs> * SirFinkus turns on the webcams
[00:18:45] <juggs> * SirFinkus spearphished juggs with portal
[00:19:03] <SirFinkus> oh, that
[00:19:04] <juggs> I thought you were meaning to say you accessed my webcam :D
[00:19:10] <SirFinkus> I just turned on infared
[00:19:28] <SirFinkus> and the sound of course
[00:20:06] <juggs> It really does have a piece of insulting tape over it and you would have heard nothing as it's not in my bedroom :D
[00:20:24] <juggs> Even if it was in my bedroom, you'd just hear snoring :D
[00:21:18] <takyon> you can't submit a story with the word "feces"
[00:21:27] <takyon> so I used the "ae" unicode character
[00:21:49] <SirFinkus> really? what a shitty thing to block
[00:22:01] <takyon> yeah the filter error says
[00:22:07] <takyon> "too smelly to submit"
[00:24:37] <juggs> Does it catch faeces ? As in a e as opposed to the ae char?
[00:25:33] <takyon> didn't try
[00:25:36] <takyon> let me check
[00:26:58] <takyon> yeah it doesn't catch faeces at all, just feces: http://puu.sh
[00:27:54] <takyon> http://www.tomshardware.com
[00:27:56] <Scruffy> ^ 03Google I/O 2015 Keynote Recap: Android M, Android Wear, VR And More
[00:28:01] <SirFinkus> admins might "catch feces" if it isn't fixed
[00:28:40] <takyon> faeces worked on-topic into every summary
[00:28:58] <takyon> I already wrote an Android M submission. someone should do the whole conference
[00:30:21] <juggs> OK - on that Antrax story. Leaving the mistake made aside, why would the US military be sending even inactivated anthrax to an air base in South Korea? :/
[00:31:22] <takyon> should anthrax samples exist at all
[00:31:41] <takyon> all you need is the DNA sequences in order to reproduce it on future synthesis machines for study
[00:33:00] <takyon> what is the mistake made
[00:33:17] <takyon> oh I thought you meant in the summary
[00:34:59] <juggs> yah, by "mistake" I was referring to the mistake made in shipping live samples rather than a mistake in the summary.
[00:35:25] <takyon> is it a mistake to give the gift of life
[00:35:33] * juggs clicks on comments to see the very samer question as the 1st comment :D
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[00:51:55] <SirFinkus> it's literally a non-story
[00:52:36] <SirFinkus> the only reason it's being reported is because "anthrax" is a scary word
[00:52:45] <juggs> seems so
[00:53:12] <SirFinkus> it's a rather common agricultural disease
[00:53:34] <takyon> call DNA synthesis a future proofing thing
[00:53:37] <SirFinkus> a rather nasty one, but not super dangerous if you aren't handling livestock
[00:53:45] <SirFinkus> unless it's weaponized
[00:54:33] <takyon> Craig Venter has made at least one synthetic organism from a DNA sequence, so it's just a matter of storing the DNA sequence and making it into life as necessary
[00:54:39] <takyon> or not at all
[00:55:37] <juggs> I assume inactivated anthrax is routinely used for treatment / inoculation, south korea wanted some and as it's a largely controlled disease shipping it their via a military air base would be a sensible thing to do to maintain control.
[00:55:49] <juggs> there*
[00:56:28] <SirFinkus> iirc, the anthrax vaccine is rather "high risk" so they don't give it to humans much
[00:56:51] <SirFinkus> probably just agricultural workers and soldiers and the like
[00:57:34] <takyon> who has anthrax other than US and Russia
[00:57:38] <takyon> does North Korea have it?
[00:57:42] <SirFinkus> everyone
[00:57:55] <takyon> you sure
[00:57:56] <SirFinkus> it's not a matter of having it, it's a matter of weaponizing it
[00:57:58] <SirFinkus> yes
[00:58:09] <takyon> well that's what I mean
[00:58:15] <SirFinkus> cows and sheep get it all the time
[00:58:23] <takyon> isn't that cowpox
[00:58:26] <SirFinkus> nope
[00:59:21] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[00:59:22] <Scruffy> ^ 03Wiki: Anthrax vaccines
[00:59:27] <SirFinkus> 2nd vaccine every developed
[00:59:53] <SirFinkus> http://bioprepwatch.com
[00:59:55] <Scruffy> ^ 03Anthrax outbreak causes quarantine of Indian village | BioPrepWatch
[01:00:56] <SirFinkus> hmm, apparently Louis Pasteur also studied fermentation
[01:01:02] <SirFinkus> I like him more and more now
[01:01:54] <juggs> I'm sure the UK would have it in various forms, most likely at Porton Down
[01:03:08] <SirFinkus> it's common enough that a family member who raises cattle knows about it and the symptoms and stuff
[01:03:39] <SirFinkus> didn't ask if any of his cattle ever got it, but it was common enough that it was on his "list of possible problems"
[01:05:37] <SirFinkus> the spores lie dormant in the soil and infect livestock that eat them iirc
[01:05:58] <juggs> Porton Down is a military base that researches military applications of virulent diseases and toxins. People protest it, but you need to know what is possible offensively to be able to muster a defence should an opposing force deploy such a thing. Necessary evil I would class it as.
[01:06:04] <SirFinkus> then farmers get it if it gets in cuts or if they eat the tainted meat
[01:06:37] <SirFinkus> ahh, thought it was a farming community
[01:07:37] <juggs> Sounds like tetanus really - that's everywhere in soil and is a nasty but rare disease to contract.
[01:08:19] <SirFinkus> probably similar
[01:08:43] <SirFinkus> in any case, we're surely all on a watchlist now
[01:08:47] <juggs> another of those ones that only infects via an open wound
[01:08:56] <SirFinkus> you can breathe it too
[01:09:08] <SirFinkus> it's just uncommon because it's a ground thing
[01:09:33] <SirFinkus> most of the weaponization is to get it to float in the air and get deep in your lungs
[01:09:42] <SirFinkus> apparently there's a sweet spot for the particle size
[01:10:14] <juggs> it's a wonder any of us manages to survive our fist birthday really.... oh wait, no it isn't, we have highly evolved immune systems to deal with the vast majority of this crud :D
[01:10:27] <takyon> Louis Pasteur was good
[01:10:43] <SirFinkus> well, he was kind of dick too
[01:10:49] <SirFinkus> testing vaccines on children and such
[01:11:11] <SirFinkus> hard to make moral judgements given the time period though
[01:12:54] <juggs> not sure how else testing would have been done in those days
[01:13:18] <takyon> there's a weird story with the kid he saved from rabies
[01:13:21] <takyon> have to look it up real quick
[01:13:22] <SirFinkus> true, but it seems off
[01:13:33] <SirFinkus> I doubt he saved a kid from rabies
[01:13:44] <SirFinkus> once you have symptoms, you're fucked
[01:13:59] <SirFinkus> the number of survivors is still in the single digits
[01:14:42] <takyon> http://en.wikipedia.org
[01:14:43] <Scruffy> ^ 03Wiki: Joseph Meister
[01:14:52] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[01:14:53] <Scruffy> ^ 03Wiki: Milwaukee protocol
[01:15:59] <SirFinkus> ahh, yeah, asymptomatic and you can vaccinate them
[01:16:36] <SirFinkus> so it looks like 5 people who showed symptoms of rabies have survived it
[01:18:46] <juggs> SirFinkus, how is it "off" to give a kid a dose of cow pox that gives relatively mild symptoms it that then makes said kid resistant to the then prevalent small pox which was typically fatal? Seems like the right thing to do - a choice between a mild fever for a week or two or near certain death.
[01:19:50] <SirFinkus> that shit wouldn't fly today, and there would be outrage
[01:20:26] <juggs> Of course. But this was mid 19th century. You can't judge his actions by today's reality
[01:20:30] <SirFinkus> medical experiments on children generally require a rather large amount of scrutiny
[01:20:36] <SirFinkus> I acknowledged that
[01:21:35] <SirFinkus> but for context, if the child had developed complications, people would view him as a monster
[01:21:44] <SirFinkus> despite his good intentions
[01:23:16] <juggs> he was lambasted in the press at the time. But in hindsight he laid the foundations for what we now know about the value of vaccinations and herd immunity
[01:24:41] <juggs> oh noooo..... we're not going to derail into anti-vaxxer territory are we? How did we get here? me puts SirFinkus in a portal
[01:24:59] <SirFinkus> absolutely not, vaccines clearly work
[01:26:24] <SirFinkus> Pasteur didn't know that though
[01:31:55] <juggs> from his observations, he believed they ~could~ work. That's what science is, you don't know until it is attempted. He had to test on children as adults had already experienced small pox and either survived and developed immunity naturally or perished a horrible death. The worst outcome of his testing was that the kids would suffer a cow pox infection for no benefit. Cow pox being pretty much non-fatal, for the time it was done, it seems like a pre
[01:31:55] <juggs> tty low risk experiment really :/
[01:34:52] <juggs> This in a time when experimenting on trepanning and frontal lobe lobotomy were being explored, I'd say he was not exactly coming from way out of field with the scope of his experimentation.
[01:40:47] <takyon> humans are meant to be experimented on
[01:40:56] <takyon> cash for experiments
[01:42:19] <juggs> Hmm, OK lobotomy didn't really become a thing until the early 20th C, similar was being messed with in the latter half of the 19th C.
[01:43:57] <SirFinkus> just because people were doing worse things doesn't justify it
[01:44:07] <SirFinkus> morality is relative anyway, so I can't really condemn him
[01:47:59] <juggs> SirFinkus, what would you rather he had of done? Experimented on mice for the rest of his days? We'd not have eradicated small pox to this day if those early pioneers of vaccination had had to operate under today's regimes and ethical tests. It is because of those earlier advances that we are now able to have confidence in animal trials reflecting human trials. So now we no longer need to experiment on humans for much of the development of new vacc
[01:47:59] <juggs> inations and drugs. This is progress.
[01:51:29] <SirFinkus> idk, difficult to judge in hindsight
[01:51:34] <juggs> As time goes by, we move animal trials to organisms in a petri dish whilst still maintaining the level of confidence that the results are transferable. Beyond that, we synthesise what is on the petri dish so we experiment on nothing living. This is progress. But every stage of advancement requires validation that the assumption that the testing environment is applicable when whatever it is is brought to the human sphere. Hence we still have humans
[01:51:34] <juggs> trialling pre-release drugs.
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[01:57:49] <juggs> I think the most recent instance that comes to mind is Ebola - that hit the press hard. Highly experimental drugs going from early development stage to "let's give this to people now" stage quite simply because they were going to die a horrible death without it and with it they would perhaps recover or otherwise die that same horrible death. That's not an ethical quandary - person is certainly horrifically dead if untreated, person + experimental d
[01:57:49] <juggs> rug may possibly with a fair wind not be certainly horrifically dead. Anyone familiar with the hippocratic oath would administer that in a heartbeat.
[01:59:06] <juggs> Turned out, it was quite effective.
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[02:00:32] <juggs> But the ethical decision to administer those drugs without trial or not is not questionable in my mind, the worst outcome was "no worse".
[02:08:32] <juggs> Put some pants on SpallsHurgenson
[02:08:51] <cmn32480> juggs... did you hack his webcam again?
[02:09:27] <juggs> he always wanders in here with no pants, no need for hackage
[02:09:45] * cmn32480 shudders
[02:09:48] <SpallsHurgenson> and yet you do so anyway :)
[02:10:18] <cmn32480> golly... I hope he is at least wearing under roos
[02:10:45] <BadCoderFinger> Don't bet on it.
[02:11:09] <juggs> mankini seems to be today's choice of outfit
[02:11:10] <SpallsHurgenson> 'roos? I haven't strapped on an australian marsupial in at least a month!
[02:11:27] <BadCoderFinger> A new record for you?
[02:11:43] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:11:58] <cmn32480> http://www.hottopic.com
[02:11:59] <Scruffy> ^ 03Underoos DC Comics Batman Guys Underwear Set | Hot Topic
[02:12:07] <cmn32480> just for you Spalls
[02:14:41] <cmn32480> when did the story link to the original submission show up? Am I hopelessly out of date? or was that recent?
[02:21:11] <SpallsHurgenson> I hunger.
[02:21:37] <cmn32480> for pants I hope.
[02:22:01] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, now everybody is making pants jokes!
[02:22:02] <juggs> A couple of days ago or so. TBH I'm not sure if it's a soycode thing or something editors are adding to each story manually. There's been some recent comment drama about editors "rewriting" submissions and original submitters getting uppity about being re-voiced in their subs yet still attributed.
[02:23:18] <cmn32480> I think it must be in the code. I edited a bunch last night (for the first time in a while due to stupid RL) and it shows on my stories as well.
[02:23:25] <BadCoderFinger> Can't please everyone all the time.
[02:23:40] <cmn32480> or my wife ever
[02:24:33] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, very true.
[02:25:46] <cmn32480> at leat I am not the only one who cna't pleae my wife
[02:28:07] <juggs> cmn32480, I think the idea was to be open about - "this is what was submitted", so people can make up their own minds about whether the published story represents the sub. i.e. on the majority of stories the eds do a a bunch of work, on some they get minor edits, on some others they de-bias things.
[02:28:53] <cmn32480> Not complaining. I like the feature.
[02:28:55] <juggs> I've seen loads of subs come in as just a sentence and a link
[02:29:01] <cmn32480> me too
[02:29:09] <cmn32480> we rewrite them pretty hard
[02:29:54] <cmn32480> and sometimes we are lucky to get the sentence...
[02:32:43] <Landon> ooh
[02:32:44] <juggs> Yeh, I think that's the discussion at hand, a well written sub should not be rewritten pretty hard just fettled, fleshing out the link only subs makes sense, balancing biased subs makes sense.... but I've not seen any discussion in #editorial on this or in the other place.
[02:32:44] <Landon> I saw that today
[02:32:48] <Landon> I wish it didn't take me to another page though
[02:33:00] <Landon> http://lfowles.org something like the toggle page source button would be cool
[02:33:00] <Scruffy> ^ 03Landon A. Fowles | Landon A. Fowles
[02:33:02] <Landon> but for OG source
[02:34:35] <cmn32480> interesting idea Landon.... but for a start and the fact that it might require JS or something to make happen, this is pretty excellent.
[02:35:57] <juggs> Would be hard to degrade gracefully - right click, open in new tab - SN is kinda script light
[02:37:06] <cmn32480> not sure who thought it up or who implemented it, but I think it is excellent
[02:53:56] <Landon> surely there's some CSS 10.0 magic
[03:00:10] <Landon> cmn32480: what's excellent?
[03:00:29] <cmn32480> besides my johnson?
[03:00:34] <cmn32480> sorry
[03:00:36] <Landon> juggs: it's a shame :( too bad you can't separate js into "this is the ajax nonsense" and "this is nice features!"
[03:00:37] <cmn32480> I couldn't help it
[03:01:05] <Landon> I feel like there are some places that gracefully degrade a JS button into a linkn
[03:01:13] <takyon> what's the big idea
[03:01:21] <Landon> hijacking the default click event if js enabled
[03:01:30] <takyon> click event on what element
[03:01:43] <Landon> takyon: talking about the See Original Submission link
[03:01:51] <takyon> what's wrong with it
[03:01:59] <Landon> it takes me to another page, what a waste of time
[03:02:13] <takyon> oh
[03:02:18] <takyon> you want it to show up in-page
[03:02:21] <Landon> ideally, yes
[03:02:28] <Landon> ajax or pre-loaded, either is fine by me
[03:02:45] <takyon> is there an API that could do that
[03:02:52] <takyon> if so maybe I can stuff it in my extension
[03:12:52] <Landon> speaking of cool browser things
[03:12:55] <Landon> https://www.unrealengine.com
[03:12:56] <Scruffy> ^ 03Tappy Chicken
[03:13:07] <Landon> I'm pretty impressed at the performance, only 60% of single cpu :o
[03:13:18] <Landon> I've had visual novels take up 100% cpu and turn me laptop into a laphell
[03:15:00] <takyon> what kinds of VNs Landon
[03:15:21] <Landon> takyon: Analogue/Hate Plus
[03:16:00] <takyon> sharp answer
[03:16:02] <takyon> never heard of it
[03:16:09] <Landon> https://www.reddit.com @ juggs
[03:16:11] <Scruffy> ^ 03Is it possible to toggle div visibility with CSS? : css
[03:16:25] <Landon> sounds like they're pretty nasty hacks though ;)
[03:17:24] <takyon> what the
[03:17:27] <takyon> of course it's possible
[03:17:44] <takyon> oh I see
[03:18:02] <takyon> that what I call advanced pseudo-classes
[03:18:54] <takyon> honestly once you get user to allow one script from your domain, you might as well do all the fancy in javascript
[03:19:11] <takyon> let me check the MDN on that :checked pseudo-class to see the browser support
[03:20:00] <takyon> ok that's pretty well-supported
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[05:01:47] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[05:01:48] <Scruffy> ^ 03Google's Cardboard 2.0 virtual reality device is a triumph for humanity, said no one sane, ever • The Register
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[06:35:18] <arti> yessir
[06:47:37] <chromas> nosir, I don't like it
[06:51:46] <chromas> the register is weird
[06:51:56] <chromas> ciri: Google is now the Chocolate Factory
[07:11:28] * arti breads chromas
[07:12:58] <SirFinkus> I read that as breeds at first
[07:16:08] <arti> well we know what you're thinking about
[09:30:41] <crutchy> home++
[09:30:41] <Bender> karma - home: 3
[09:30:47] <crutchy> hospitals--
[09:30:47] <Bender> karma - hospitals: -1
[09:30:51] <crutchy> weekend++
[09:30:51] <Bender> karma - weekend: 13
[09:30:56] <crutchy> work--
[09:30:56] <Bender> karma - work: -16
[09:36:40] <crutchy> http://www.theatlantic.com
[09:36:41] <Scruffy> ^ 03Scenes From Underground - The Atlantic
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[10:08:12] <JamesNZ> webdev-- # It's worse than Java!
[10:08:12] <Bender> karma - webdev: -1
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[11:15:10] <TLA> g'day
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[12:52:38] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:52:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1393
[12:52:40] <Bytram> !uid
[12:52:41] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5277, owned by dereinsamehai
[12:52:51] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:52:53] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 71°F, mostly sunny, wind N at 6 mph, humidity 62% - Friday sunny (59°F-74°F), Saturday cloudy (64°F-84°F), Sunday showers (51°F-74°F), Monday rain (50°F-57°F)
[12:52:56] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[12:52:58] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 70°F, mostly sunny, wind N at 9 mph, humidity 73% - Friday partly cloudy (55°F-73°F), Saturday partly cloudy (61°F-76°F), Sunday showers (51°F-68°F), Monday cloudy (48°F-65°F)
[12:53:02] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle
[12:53:03] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 58°F, sunny, wind N at 4 mph, humidity 68% - Friday mostly sunny (56°F-77°F), Saturday partly cloudy (54°F-82°F), Sunday scattered showers (41°F-61°F), Monday mostly sunny (42°F-66°F)
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[14:01:59] <janrinok> hi guys
[14:14:05] <weeds> good day
[14:16:11] <janrinok> hi weeds
[14:16:12] <ciri> hi i'm happy today! :D janrinok
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[14:28:17] <exec> 05*** SN funding has changed from $3,269 to $4,268
[14:29:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> somebody donated $99? Awesome!
[14:30:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather Saint Petersburg, FL
[14:30:15] <exec> 03St Petersburg, FL, USA - currently 78°F / 26°C, sunny, wind E at 6 mph, humidity 62% - Friday partly cloudy (74°F-92°F / 23°C-33°C), Saturday mostly sunny (76°F-91°F / 24°C-33°C), Sunday scattered thunderstorms (76°F-89°F / 24°C-32°C), Monday scattered thunderstorms (77°F-89°F / 25°C-32°C)
[14:31:17] <janrinok> AndyTheAbsurd: do your maths again!
[14:32:22] <AndyTheAbsurd> derp. yeah. $999. that's what I get for doing math in my head instead of using a computer.
[14:32:34] <janrinok> even more impressive!
[14:36:03] <mrcoolbp> yeah, wish we could all buy that person a beer
[15:07:33] <kadal> $999! Damn.
[15:07:52] * kadal wishes he had that kind of money to spare.
[15:08:13] <kadal> 95% to the funding goal. Nice!
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[17:28:17] <exec> 05*** SN funding has changed from $4,268 to $4,306
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[19:20:48] <Cyprus> oh nice you fixed your scraper
[19:20:52] <Cyprus> ~weather
[19:20:54] <exec> 03San Jose, CA, USA - currently 69°F / 21°C, mostly cloudy, wind NW at 7 mph, humidity 51% - Friday partly cloudy (55°F-74°F / 13°C-23°C), Saturday partly cloudy (56°F-77°F / 13°C-25°C), Sunday partly cloudy (58°F-75°F / 14°C-24°C), Monday partly cloudy (56°F-74°F / 13°C-23°C)
[19:25:07] <janrinok> time to go
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[19:34:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Figure Out How to Retrieve "Lost" Memories - http://sylnt.us - where-did-I-put-my-car-keys
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[20:41:02] <Ethanol-fueled> FUCK YEAH! I just got LAID OFF!
[20:41:09] <takyon> congrats
[20:41:13] <Ethanol-fueled> FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST!
[20:41:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Just in time for SUMMA HAHAHAHAHAH
[20:41:36] <takyon> you're having a better day than Ross Ulbricht
[20:42:13] <Ethanol-fueled> what happened to ross?
[20:42:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, that.
[20:42:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus, that's a little harsh. Seems they were trying to make an example of him.
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[20:44:02] <chromas> ~define ross ulbricht
[20:44:12] <exec> ross ulbricht: unable to find definition
[21:06:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Memory Alloy Bounces Back into Shape 10 Million Times - http://sylnt.us - amnesiac-neuromorphic-chips-rejoice
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[22:06:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison - http://sylnt.us - getting-all-they-can-give
[22:51:21] <crutchy> ~last nick=ethanol-fueled channel=#soylent message=laid off
[22:51:25] <exec> 03<Ethanol-fueled> FUCK YEAH! I just got LAID OFF!
[22:51:35] <crutchy> exec, s/OFF//
[22:51:35] <sedctl> <crutchy> <exec> 03<Ethanol-fueled> FUCK YEAH! I just got LAID !
[23:19:34] <paulej72> ~weather
[23:19:36] <exec> 03Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 80°F / 27°C, partly cloudy, wind SE at 13 mph, humidity 50% - Friday partly cloudy (63°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C), Saturday partly cloudy (66°F-87°F / 19°C-31°C), Sunday scattered thunderstorms (60°F-87°F / 16°C-31°C), Monday scattered thunderstorms (54°F-74°F / 12°C-23°C)
[23:21:26] <crutchy> http://www.wsj.com
[23:21:27] <Scruffy> ^ 03NSA Surveillance Programs Are Set to Expire as Senate Meets Sunday - WSJ
[23:21:36] <crutchy> love the photo caption
[23:21:47] <crutchy> "President Barack Obama, right, urges the Senate to..."
[23:21:58] <crutchy> (just in case we get confused about which one he is)
[23:33:41] <takyon> http://www.npr.org
[23:36:02] <takyon> scruffy plz
[23:37:21] <crutchy> tried it using exec
[23:37:24] <crutchy> 2015-05-29 23:36:58 > portion of title left of " : " exists in url
[23:37:34] <crutchy> i think scruffy does something similar
[23:38:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientist Develop Effective Brainwashing - http://sylnt.us - bias-removal-or-indoctrination?
[23:39:00] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[23:39:01] <Scruffy> ^ 03Tossed all your snaps into the new Google Photos? You read the terms, right? ... RIGHT? • The Register
[23:39:28] * crutchy wonders when the pentagon is going to be added to the list of terrorist groups for sending said anthrax
[23:39:41] <crutchy> (because anyone else would be)
[23:41:04] <crutchy> "it's only terrorism if someone else does it"
[23:43:01] <takyon> they shared the gift of life
[23:43:17] <takyon> they should be greeted as liberators
[23:43:50] <crutchy> like russia was in 1945
[23:46:22] <crutchy> lol
[23:46:24] <crutchy> http://www.express.co.uk
[23:46:26] <Scruffy> ^ 03Vladimir Putin could force West to use NUCLEAR WEAPONS against Russia | World | News | Daily Express
[23:46:51] <crutchy> "if you do something we don't like, you'll be FORCING us to nuke you!"
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[23:50:31] <takyon> that's the number 2 story
[23:51:17] <takyon> number 1 story is: EXPLAINED: What is the spooky Charlie Charlie game that millions of kids are playing? IT'S the internet sensation which has got millions of children trying to summon DEMONS to help them solve a variety of quandaries.
[23:53:00] <crutchy> oh i forgot the part of that story where if europe was 'forced' to nuke russia, russia might then be 'forced' to nuke the entire european union and the USA just for good measure
[23:53:09] <takyon> as for the Putin thing, NATO is required to attack if a NATO country is attacked
[23:53:27] <takyon> so the real question is, is Putin really about to attack a NATO member
[23:53:34] <takyon> and the answer is "nah"