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[00:36:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Employers Get Out of Paying Their Workers - http://sylnt.us - pay-up
[00:43:23] <paulej72> nobody here
[01:01:45] -!- Ethanol-fueled [Ethanol-fueled!~Ethanol-f@SectorZeroZeroOne] has joined #Soylent
[01:11:41] * chromas pats Ethanol-fueled on the back
[01:11:50] <chromas> Many comments, good sir
[01:11:54] * Ethanol-fueled hurls all over chromas
[01:13:17] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, can I get a blowjob for my efforts?
[01:13:29] * chromas wrythes in the hurlage
[01:13:34] <Ethanol-fueled> if you can talk in a high-pitched voice, I can close my eyes for 3 minutes.
[01:14:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Wearing a wig would probably help.
[01:14:21] <chromas> Nope
[01:14:27] <chromas> Gonna shave my head
[01:14:47] <chromas> You like the flat-chested, un-shapely bald girls who look like boys
[01:15:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck no, I like fat girls.
[01:16:08] <Ethanol-fueled> fat girls with long hair.
[01:16:20] <Ethanol-fueled> It's why I use extenders.
[01:16:33] <chromas> To get past the rolls?
[01:16:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Fat girls are:
[01:16:55] <Ethanol-fueled> eager to please
[01:16:59] <Ethanol-fueled> cook good food
[01:17:13] <Ethanol-fueled> like rough physical play
[01:17:23] <chromas> I heard they're good at giving head
[01:17:26] <chromas> because they like to eat
[01:17:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Get yourself a good fat girl and you're set for life.
[01:17:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Ultra-hetero rock band Queen even wrote a song about it.
[01:18:16] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[01:18:17] <Scruffy> ^ 03Wiki: Fat Bottomed Girls
[01:18:34] <chromas> Power Bottom Boys
[01:19:16] <Ethanol-fueled> I always envied the gays for how easily it is for them to have sex with random strangers.
[01:19:53] <Ethanol-fueled> gays get laid an order of magnitude more easily than straights.
[01:20:02] <chromas> or that sex robots article the other day
[01:20:14] <chromas> Get some bangin' out and get back to writing code or building dridges or wahtever
[01:20:23] <chromas> skip the dinners and rings and stuff
[01:20:35] <chromas> ~define dridge
[01:20:37] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03dridge: a gay bar competition where men attempt to see who can fit the most fingers in ones asshole.
[01:20:47] <chromas> well that's quite topical
[01:22:07] <Ethanol-fueled> gays are breaking the boundaries of what traditional society considers disgusting but what deep down considers tantalizing.
[01:22:33] <Ethanol-fueled> If I didn't consider dicks and semen disgusting then I too would be gay.
[01:23:01] <chromas> I heard semen's tastier when you cut back on the garlic and stuf
[01:23:11] <chromas> Everything on the internet is true
[01:23:36] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, I can't speak for dick, unless I'm peeing the morning after I ate asparagus.
[01:23:53] <Ethanol-fueled> But what I can speak for is pussy, and diet does indeed effect it.
[01:25:08] <chromas> You could become religious
[01:25:22] <chromas> The bible says you should have multiple wives and concubines and slaves
[01:26:00] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[01:26:02] <Scruffy> ^ 03Mickey Rourke's 'Pussy talk' from the Spun movie - YouTube
[01:27:06] <chromas> His face looks like a mask
[01:27:22] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, it's not. He's just another drug-addled AMerican.
[01:27:44] <Ethanol-fueled> who has fought in boxing matches.
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[02:41:42] <SpallsHurgenson> gonna be warm tomorrow.
[02:44:35] <SpallsHurgenson> warm enough for me to wear short no-pants
[02:44:41] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: where you at?
[02:44:46] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[02:44:48] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 68°F, cloudy, wind SW at 19 mph, humidity 48% - Sunday partly cloudy (59°F-81°F), Monday cloudy (64°F-81°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (64°F-85°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (66°F-84°F)
[02:44:52] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[02:44:53] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 69°F, clear, wind SW at 8 mph, humidity 37% - Sunday partly cloudy (56°F-80°F), Monday mostly cloudy (58°F-79°F), Tuesday scattered showers (60°F-82°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (61°F-76°F)
[02:44:57] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, me
[02:44:58] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 57°F, clear, wind S at 1 mph, humidity 57% - Sunday partly cloudy (51°F-71°F), Monday partly cloudy (57°F-78°F), Tuesday scattered showers (62°F-82°F), Wednesday scattered thunderstorms (65°F-83°F)
[02:45:01] <SpallsHurgenson> ~weather
[02:45:03] <exec> 03Bangkok, Thailand - currently 91°F / 33°C, partly cloudy, wind SW at 12 mph, humidity 52% - Monday thunderstorm (81°F-94°F / 27°C-34°C), Tuesday scattered thunderstorms (81°F-93°F / 27°C-34°C), Wednesday scattered thunderstorms (81°F-95°F / 27°C-35°C), Thursday scattered thunderstorms (80°F-95°F / 27°C-35°C)
[02:45:27] <Bytram> yowza! now THAT is HOT!
[02:45:48] <Bytram> seems like you have a thing for thunderstorms
[02:47:49] <SpallsHurgenson> personally, I prefer snow :)
[02:49:33] * Bytram notes one generally does not need to shovel after a t-storm
[02:50:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I sort of like shoveling snow
[02:53:20] <Bytram> you would have loved it here last winter! And the winter before that, we had a *single* *storm* that droped 30 inches on us.
[02:53:31] * Bytram thinks that would cure ya!
[02:53:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure it wouldn't :)
[02:53:58] <SpallsHurgenson> I could make tunnels!
[02:54:00] <chromas> Shoveling snow gets you nice and warm
[02:54:16] <SpallsHurgenson> shoveling snow gets you sweaty, not warm :)
[02:57:23] * Bytram thinks if SpallsHurgenson can make tunnels in 30" of snow, then he must be related to the hobbits!
[02:58:07] <SpallsHurgenson> well, there was that trip to new zealand...
[02:58:31] <Bytram> after shovelling, you come out warm and worn out
[02:59:00] <SpallsHurgenson> I disagree, you come out cold and wet :)
[02:59:01] * Bytram met the exec prod in charge of special effects for TLoR and of the Hobbit Trilogy
[02:59:23] <Bytram> and for Avatar and a buncha other films
[02:59:43] <Bytram> he was wearing a hoodie with silouettes of all the Hobbit cast
[02:59:58] <Bytram> (he was a customer of mine at work)
[03:00:07] <Bytram> I complemented him on the hoodie and asked him where he got it
[03:00:21] <Bytram> then he explained he was the spec eff director for the Hobbit.
[03:00:37] <Bytram> I was almost speechless!
[03:00:48] <Bytram> had a really nice chat -- very down-to-earth kind of guy
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[03:03:32] <SirFinkus> neat
[03:03:33] <SirFinkus> http://www.latimes.com
[03:03:34] <Scruffy> ^ 03After Senate vote, NSA prepares to shut down phone tracking program - LA Times
[03:03:35] <SirFinkus> I like this
[03:03:41] * SirFinkus bets they're lying
[03:04:02] <chromas> from the wink-wink-nudge-nudge dept
[03:04:03] <SpallsHurgenson> no, they'll close down that program and just start another one :)
[03:04:08] <SirFinkus> they're shutting down that phone program because they're spinning up a worse one
[03:04:15] <SirFinkus> lol yeah
[03:04:44] <SpallsHurgenson> or they'll just get the Brits or Aussies to do it for them
[03:04:53] <SirFinkus> but get all your terrorism and stuff done right now
[03:05:56] <SirFinkus> I'm more worried about the business records and the internet monitoring anyway
[03:06:16] <SirFinkus> since they can get everything there
[03:06:17] <Bytram> during Memorial Day Weekend? Why, that would be unpatriotic! </sarc>
[03:06:28] <Bytram> afk biab
[03:08:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - John Nash, Mathematician, is Dead - http://sylnt.us - game-over
[03:09:40] * SpallsHurgenson denies any involvement
[03:10:45] <SirFinkus> normally I'd think it was a black bag job by the spooks
[03:10:56] <SirFinkus> but given their age, it's less suspicious
[03:11:28] <SpallsHurgenson> that's just what they want you to think!
[03:13:02] <SpallsHurgenson> see, they just lay low for twenty or thirty years until they lull you into a sense of complacency (and senility) and then, bam! they getcha!
[03:13:26] * Bytram looks around nervously
[03:14:03] <SirFinkus> actually sounds like he had reverse senility as he got older
[03:14:12] <SirFinkus> his delusions got better
[03:14:17] <SpallsHurgenson> all part of their cunning plan!
[03:15:17] <Bytram> better delusions actually sounds worse
[03:15:39] <Bytram> if you plan to fail and actually DO fail, did you fail or succeed?
[03:15:59] <SirFinkus> his mental state improved I mean
[03:16:03] <SirFinkus> but you knew that
[03:16:10] <SirFinkus> asshole
[03:16:30] * SpallsHurgenson denies he knows anything
[03:16:40] <Bytram> I actually had no idea, and my mind wandered into word play... I apologize.
[03:16:58] <Bytram> dark humor, I guess. It's sad that someone so brilliant has passed.
[03:18:07] <SirFinkus> not super sad though, he had a good run
[03:18:38] <SirFinkus> and was recognized for his brilliance, and more people will hear about him now
[03:18:57] <SirFinkus> sounded like it was pretty quick too
[03:19:28] <SirFinkus> and went with his wife, which is kind of romantic in a fucked up way
[03:20:02] <Bytram> well, that's a relief. I don't mind dying when my time comes, but I'd rather it be quick than a month in the hospital tied to life support and semi-conscious.
[03:20:32] <Bytram> I've had a good run, myself, and I figure any time I have now is a bonus.
[03:21:15] <Bytram> working on this site has been a real inspiration for me -- I've met some *amazing* people here and am much the better for the experience!
[03:22:31] <SpallsHurgenson> "I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like grampa, and not clawing at the dashboard like his passengers" :)
[03:22:34] <Bytram> SirFinkus: oh. you must have continued whilst I was typing... that's right, they died in a car accident in NJ, right?
[03:22:42] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: LOL!
[03:22:50] <SirFinkus> yep
[03:23:21] * Bytram plans to do a lot more walking from now on
[03:23:44] <SirFinkus> cycling is more fun
[03:23:45] <SpallsHurgenson> that's unamerican
[03:23:46] <Bytram> and will prolly get hit by a drunk driver who plows onto the sidewalk!
[03:24:11] <SirFinkus> once you hit like, 35, you should really go for the rascal
[03:25:31] <Bytram> 35.. years old? or miles per hour?
[03:25:45] * Bytram better get a helmet, too!
[03:26:07] <Bytram> and maybe a some duct tape and a few yards of bubble wrap!
[03:26:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I assumed he meant this rascal: http://www.amazon.com :)
[03:26:22] <Scruffy> ^ 03Amazon.com: Rascal 10 Four Wheel Mobility Scooter - Blue: Health Personal Care
[03:29:00] * paulej72 read more bug is now fully fixed on dev
[03:29:44] <Bytram> paulej72++
[03:29:44] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 161
[03:29:46] <Bytram> !woop
[03:29:46] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[03:29:49] <Bytram> !uid
[03:29:50] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[03:30:06] <Bytram> huh? I thought we were up in the 5000's ???
[03:30:11] <paulej72> wtf
[03:30:30] <Bytram> <title>Your Relationship with mTor (00005259) </title>
[03:31:02] * Bytram runs 'zoo_refresh' on his home box
[03:31:14] <paulej72> !uid
[03:31:15] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5261, owned by KGIII
[03:31:31] <Bytram> ahh, MUCH better!
[03:31:41] <Bytram> that matches what I just found.
[03:32:11] <paulej72> i,rebooted bender recently so that may have been an issue
[03:32:35] <Bytram> so what did you have to do after the reboot?
[03:33:05] <paulej72> might need to run uid twice to load it fully
[03:33:14] <paulej72> !uid
[03:33:14] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5261, owned by KGIII
[03:33:41] <Bytram> oh, I get it, stale data? Had to run !uid a couple times so it got fresh data?
[03:34:34] * Bytram has a script that gets the last-found UID, and keeps issuing a zoo request until it comes back with a msg to the effect that there is no such user.
[03:35:12] <Bytram> anywho, pillow is calling my name... time for me to cut some zzzzzzzzzzzz's
[03:35:18] <paulej72> 4027 was the number it was stuck on when i changed the algo. it may be a hardcoded starting point
[03:35:19] <Bytram> paulej72: a good night to you, sir!
[03:35:29] <Bytram> that makes sense.
[03:35:32] <paulej72> sure later
[03:38:54] * SpallsHurgenson starts his weekly hard-drive tidying
[03:40:52] * Bytram offers a duster and a can of air
[03:40:59] <Bytram> =)
[03:41:02] <Bytram> gnight.
[03:46:37] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, 7gigs in the trash... I love it when I have a lot of stuff to delete :)
[03:47:57] <SirFinkus> coincidentally, I have 7GB left
[03:52:44] <SpallsHurgenson> how can you survive?
[03:52:45] <ciri> don't ask me!
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[03:53:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Fart!
[03:55:43] * SpallsHurgenson updates his search indices
[03:57:09] <SirFinkus> nice contribution
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[04:00:23] <juggs> seen better
[04:00:56] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, juggs!
[04:01:11] <SpallsHurgenson> did you steam yourself yet? can I relinquish this awful burden to you finally?
[04:01:12] <juggs> sup SpallsHurgenson ?
[04:01:55] <juggs> You feeling the burden of responsibility?
[04:02:26] <SpallsHurgenson> it's just too much power in the hands of a mere mortal like myself :)
[04:05:19] <juggs> My tragic temp mails seem to not have worked, so... ya.... we can trust you with that group for now right? Not like we can do anything about it if not. You friendly bro? :D
[04:05:47] <SpallsHurgenson> no, I am purist, pantless evil!
[04:06:37] <SpallsHurgenson> but I guess I will have to endure.
[04:07:37] <juggs> Keep up the fight. We'll be there.
[04:07:39] <SirFinkus> don't use temp mails for steam
[04:07:56] <SirFinkus> they don't spam you, I promise
[04:08:10] <SirFinkus> they only time the email you is for password shit
[04:08:31] <SirFinkus> or if a game on your wishlist is on sale
[04:08:54] * SirFinkus may have opted in to that one
[04:10:54] <SpallsHurgenson> just don't put anything on the wishlist :)
[04:11:10] <SirFinkus> I don't mind that one
[04:14:03] * SpallsHurgenson triggers the nightly backup a few hours early
[04:15:03] <juggs> I'll sort it out tomorrow. I may have to cast aside my original steam sign up as apparently gmail, gmx and yandex are all persona non grata. ~shrug~
[04:15:20] <SirFinkus> gmail should work...
[04:15:27] <SpallsHurgenson> gmail does work
[04:15:29] <juggs> you'd think
[04:15:43] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe they just don't like you :)
[04:15:54] * SirFinkus suggests pebcak
[04:16:03] <SirFinkus> although I signed up almost a decade ago
[04:16:05] <juggs> Wouldn't be an unusual position SpallsHurgenson
[04:16:16] <SirFinkus> so idk what it's like now
[04:16:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I'll just blame Microsoft.
[04:17:11] <SirFinkus> usually a decent policy
[04:18:02] * SpallsHurgenson decides to defrag a few files, just for the heck of it (I like watching the blocks blink on and off :)
[04:18:12] <SirFinkus> best reason to defrag
[04:18:14] <juggs> Anyway... yah, I'll sort it, my bad for being a tool. Nothing new. Now I need to go horizontal.
[04:18:31] <SirFinkus> why do you want a steam account anyway juggs?
[04:18:54] <SpallsHurgenson> all part of his plan to dominate every corner of the internet, wasn't it?
[04:19:50] <SirFinkus> If you pm me an email I could send you a steam gift (portal) maybe that would be easier for you juggs
[04:20:01] <SpallsHurgenson> (kitty is very subtly hinting she wants a snack by throwing her bag of treats onto the floor :)
[04:22:51] <SpallsHurgenson> (oh you stupid backup program... don't back up all those files; they haven't changed except for the filename!)
[04:39:00] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, file maintenance done. time for the weekly shutdown of all things computery :)
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[04:40:37] <chromas> ew
[04:43:26] <chromas> Ooh, I like how pulseaudio lets me insert a dynamics compressor onto flash player because YouTube people can't mix audio consistently
[04:44:20] * SirFinkus has very rarely noticed a problem
[04:44:49] <chromas> Occasionally I have to turn the volume up to 150%
[04:45:26] <chromas> Although Veromix seems to be the only pulse mixer that just lets me insert a filter. Otherwise gotta do some commandline bullshit
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[04:57:31] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha, I've drawn the ire of too many folks now.
[04:58:13] <Ethanol-fueled> It's getting personal.
[04:59:26] * SirFinkus checks the story
[05:02:40] <Ethanol-fueled> I am wondering if I should leave...FOR GOOD.
[05:02:46] <SirFinkus> meh, I suspect that anyone would have gotten flak for submitting that story
[05:03:23] <SirFinkus> not that it was particularly outrageous, but nobody wants to be seen as "insensitive" these days
[05:05:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah. Pissing a bunch of people is counterproductive if it doesn't accomplish anything meaningful.
[05:06:53] <SirFinkus> discussion is always meaningful imo
[05:10:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The U.S. Is About to Change the Way It Calculates GDP - http://sylnt.us - draw-graph-and-then-plot-points
[05:14:37] * SirFinkus wonders if the human centipede 2 and 3 are worth downloading in 1080p, or indeed, at all
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[07:42:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's WISE Spacecraft Discovers Most Luminous Galaxy in Universe - http://sylnt.us - so-far
[08:08:51] <crutchy> apparently one of the requirements of being a dad is teaching your 6yo daughter that hiding and then telling the person counting that she's ready is not the best strategy for hide and seek
[08:10:58] <crutchy> and also teaching your 8yo son that covering your face with your hands but leaving a gap so you can see through your fingers while counting is called cheating
[08:27:07] <SirFinkus> I don't have kids, or what them, but that seems like about the best age for them
[08:27:19] <SirFinkus> they still think you're amazing, but aren't shitting themselves
[08:27:30] <crutchy> heh. true
[08:27:31] <SirFinkus> the sweet spot
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[08:27:35] <crutchy> nappies are pretty shit
[08:27:40] <crutchy> in more ways than one
[08:27:51] <crutchy> well, not really 'pretty'
[08:28:04] <janrinok> ...and a good morning to you, too, crutchy
[08:28:16] <SirFinkus> then like 12-18 sounds terrible, then later is pretty good
[08:28:24] <janrinok> hi SirFinkus
[08:28:26] <ciri> hello, whats up janrinok
[08:28:29] <SirFinkus> idk though, just my impressions
[08:28:33] <SirFinkus> hi janrinok
[08:28:33] <ciri> o/ SirFinkus
[08:28:35] <crutchy> lol g'day janrinok :D
[08:28:36] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[08:28:39] <SirFinkus> fucking ciry
[08:28:41] <SirFinkus> ciri
[08:28:45] <crutchy> we're talking dirty ;P
[08:28:53] <crutchy> ...dirty nappies
[08:29:13] <janrinok> so I gathered
[08:29:32] <crutchy> how the hell does that sort of stuff come up at dinner time?
[08:29:45] <SirFinkus> I don't get babies, they just seem like a noise machine that goes off randomly and shits itself
[08:29:53] <SirFinkus> don't get the appeal
[08:29:54] <janrinok> but you used the word nappies rather than diapers - it just caught my eye, so to speak
[08:30:10] <janrinok> SirFinkus: and then they grow into something like us
[08:30:25] * janrinok is not sure if that is good or bad
[08:30:32] <SirFinkus> janrinok has an alarm that goes off anytime "nappies" is mentioned
[08:30:33] <crutchy> i was just thinking the same
[08:30:37] <SirFinkus> it's his fetish
[08:30:44] <crutchy> oh not that i mean
[08:30:46] <crutchy> damn irc
[08:30:50] <SirFinkus> in my case, probably a poor decision not to coat hanger it
[08:30:59] <janrinok> it was the first sentence when I logged on!
[08:31:10] <SirFinkus> you got a bot I bet
[08:31:13] <janrinok> quote 'nappies are pretty shit'
[08:31:44] * crutchy imagines a text-to-talk 'welcome to irc janrinok.... nappies are pretty shit'
[08:31:48] <SirFinkus> oh, what's the best irc client for IOS?
[08:31:58] <SirFinkus> anybody know?
[08:32:00] <janrinok> I'm currently working on a story bot :). It takes the rss feed and I'm trying to create basic stories ready for editing to alleviate our lack of subs
[08:32:19] <crutchy> oh cool
[08:32:23] <crutchy> i tried that
[08:32:26] <crutchy> it sucked
[08:32:29] <crutchy> :p
[08:32:43] <janrinok> so if you see lots of crap on the rss-bot chan then it is probably my bot joining and dying
[08:32:54] <crutchy> hehe
[08:33:28] <crutchy> dunno whether it would be very useful, but my ~submit script is here: https://github.com
[08:33:29] <Scruffy> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/submit.php at master · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub
[08:33:33] <janrinok> I can extract the title and most of the story, but there is still a lot of superfluous crap with it
[08:33:40] <crutchy> yup
[08:34:12] <crutchy> i was trying to extract the first proper paragraph
[08:34:23] <janrinok> thanks for the link - but I don't use php but python. However, there may be plenty of good ideas in there
[08:34:30] <crutchy> i think really what it would need though is different rules for different sites
[08:35:10] <janrinok> ... and that is what I am working on at present!
[08:35:19] <crutchy> ahah!
[08:35:57] <janrinok> I have 2 approaches, one is a form of template for each site, the other is a do-it-myself scripting language which takes it parsing rules from a simple text file
[08:36:15] <janrinok> takes its*
[08:36:19] <crutchy> nice
[08:36:52] <janrinok> the advantage of the latter is that anyone can update it - the template is a bit more complicated. Or at least the way I have implemented it
[08:37:07] <crutchy> my bot programming motivation has hit a wall lately cos work is taking it out of me
[08:37:55] <janrinok> well, my driver is simply the arguments going on currently regarding submissions and editing. If I can automate the subs we can kill 2 birds with one stone
[08:38:01] <crutchy> if you want some more rss feeds, or you want a channel you can spam away in, check out #feeds
[08:38:14] <janrinok> thanks, I will look there
[08:38:45] <crutchy> http://logs.sylnt.us
[08:38:46] <Scruffy> ^ 03#feeds | Logs for 2015-05-25
[08:39:02] <janrinok> in Python, twisted does most of the hard work along with libxml
[08:39:23] <crutchy> prolly not the best newsworthy feeds, but prolly ok for bashing a script with
[08:39:39] <crutchy> ah yeah. i heard that twisted is pretty cool
[08:39:55] <janrinok> what is the 8****** line that appears every so often?
[08:40:10] <crutchy> its just to break up the feed
[08:40:18] <janrinok> well it does that OK
[08:40:34] <crutchy> just so i can tell when the script finishes :p
[08:41:14] <janrinok> I like meaningful output..... :)
[08:41:37] <janrinok> 'script terminated' would give it all away
[08:42:10] <crutchy> it would. i could do that in a different color too. the **** kinda shows up a bit clearer in the channel
[08:42:20] <crutchy> i borrowed the idea from the #comments feed
[08:42:35] <janrinok> it does its job - it is just not intuitive hence my original question
[08:43:02] <crutchy> not much to do with my bot is very intuitive :D
[08:43:23] <crutchy> its like an evolving zerg bot
[08:43:38] <crutchy> or borg
[08:44:13] <crutchy> hmm. nah not borg. it doesn't take the best bits. it just takes random shit
[08:44:31] <janrinok> lol
[08:44:32] <ciri> hahaha
[08:44:48] <janrinok> you're not selling your php very hard, are you?
[08:44:53] <crutchy> heh
[08:46:03] <crutchy> http://edition.cnn.com
[08:46:04] <Scruffy> ^ 03Washington police detonate pressure cooker - CNN.com
[08:46:57] * crutchy guesses the driver needs a new pressure cooker
[08:47:38] <crutchy> though admittedly parking your car on paranoia street was pretty dumb
[08:49:11] <janrinok> we had the same problem when the IRA were active. A handful of attacks creates a mountain of false alarms and 'just-to-be-safe' callouts
[08:49:52] <janrinok> just wait until the bombers start hiding their pressure cooker bombs in shops selling pressure cookers
[08:51:21] <crutchy> given the apparent high level of pressure cooker paranoia i imagine there are probably plenty more subtle ways to hide a bomb
[08:52:11] <crutchy> though it might be ingenious... like using 12345 as a password. so obvious nobody would suspect
[08:52:27] <janrinok> of course, but they'll wait until there is a ban on selling pressure cookers, or you have to produce 2 kinds of ID and proof of residence before you can buy one, and then they will use something else
[08:53:04] <janrinok> that way, we tie ourselves in knots just as we have with airport security
[08:53:47] * crutchy is kinda surprised that fresh water or electrical infrastructure hasn't been more of a target
[08:54:09] <crutchy> i guess bombs are more of a statement
[08:54:29] <crutchy> don't mind me mr listening nsa man
[08:54:32] <crutchy> :p
[08:55:09] <janrinok> why would they when there are still relatively no-risk methods to choose from?
[08:55:25] <janrinok> anyone can buy a pressure cooker - at the moment
[08:56:47] <crutchy> buying one is easy. setting it up at target location and avoiding suspicion prior to and after detonation is a bit risky
[09:02:05] <SirFinkus> seems to me like an effective way to fuck with the police would be to just buy 100 pressure cookers and put them around the city
[09:02:08] <SirFinkus> no need for bombs
[09:03:00] <SirFinkus> only need a few of them to be bombs before people are scared shitless of them
[09:04:00] <janrinok> at the moment they are targetting high visibility public events e.g. the marathon in Boston. Its when they start targetting your shopping malls and your transport hubs. Lots of potential casualties and there is no way they can function without masses of people moving in and out. If you try to search them all, you have a financial hit and a public outcry. If you don't do something, the bombers win. As the IRA said about their targets
[09:05:04] <janrinok> the IRA attack shopping malls in Manchester. The hit on trade was enormous - easily in the millions and it kept the public away from shopping malls for quite a long time
[09:05:06] <crutchy> or the nj turnpike
[09:05:17] <crutchy> that would fuck some people's daily routines up
[09:06:02] <janrinok> the govt cannot win - which is what OBL threatened. That our way of life would be changed forever by a handful of people
[09:06:39] <SirFinkus> nsa shit doesn't stop me from buying a pressure cooker and putting it in a mall
[09:06:42] <SirFinkus> well, now it might
[09:06:54] <SirFinkus> but if I was going to do it, I wouldn't be talking about it in irc
[09:07:45] <SirFinkus> but really, I've just tripped some regex somewhere
[09:07:54] <SirFinkus> now they need to determine if I'm serious
[09:08:00] <crutchy> yeah i was just thinking we're prolly all about to be swatted
[09:08:08] <janrinok> the UK press is now talking about how the 'terrorist' are using 'apps' that the govt cannot see. As n1 said yesterday, this is the precursor to the govt proposing new surviellance laws in the UK, which the public will 'know' are absolutely essential.
[09:08:24] <SirFinkus> UK is already fucked
[09:08:37] <SirFinkus> we in the US are just almost fucked
[09:08:38] <crutchy> come to australia, where the government is open about snooping on everything :D
[09:08:41] <janrinok> you think any other country is different?
[09:08:57] <SirFinkus> our nsa shit is at least technically illegal, yours is just the law now
[09:09:04] <SirFinkus> in public
[09:09:08] <SirFinkus> no real outcry
[09:09:17] <crutchy> no real bill of rights either
[09:09:35] <crutchy> we're still a (albeit slightly well off) penal colony
[09:10:23] <janrinok> well not quite, the press are twisting it a little bit. There is nothing new in the recent law except that it is no longer an offence for them to be doing their job, which is was before due to some legal oversight
[09:11:20] <janrinok> it simply said that all hacking was illegal, and of course there is no exceptions to a blanket ruling such as that. Now they are saying that govt sanctioned hacking is not illegal.
[09:11:24] <SirFinkus> point is, your rat bastard politicians seem to just be passing laws enabling it
[09:11:51] <crutchy> our holy grail is the multitude of great big holes dotting the country full of massive dump trucks taking away dirt that can apparently be turned into buildings and electronics n stuff
[09:11:54] <janrinok> or true, but that is the same in many places - it is just perhaps not quite as blatent
[09:12:00] <janrinok> oh true*
[09:12:05] <SirFinkus> we at least have the pretense of it being illegal, then the politicians can act outraged but still pass laws enabling it
[09:12:23] <SirFinkus> not really though because that pesky bill of rights
[09:12:51] <janrinok> having a bill, and they following it are 2 different things
[09:12:57] <janrinok> and then*
[09:13:08] * janrinok blames his brain/finger interface
[09:14:15] <SirFinkus> probably doesn't matter too much, since they don't care about rule of law anyway
[09:14:24] <SirFinkus> but at least we have the pretense...
[09:14:43] <janrinok> anyway, I suspect that GCHQ/NSA and friends will be getting bored with us soon, perhaps we ought to switch to another topic :)
[09:14:53] <SirFinkus> ours aren't SAYING make encryption illegal, they're just IMPLYING it
[09:15:20] <SirFinkus> naw, I'm off to bed
[09:15:26] <SirFinkus> night
[09:15:40] <janrinok> have a good sleep SirFinkus. catch up with you again later
[09:16:03] <SirFinkus> or not, the mrap is pulling up
[09:16:10] * SirFinkus goes out in a blaze of fire
[09:16:11] <janrinok> listening bug in SirFinkus' residence (bedroom) is now activated
[09:17:06] <crutchy> ~g'night SirFinkus
[09:17:08] * exec spontaneously tosses a bucket of coffee to SirFinkus
[09:17:22] <crutchy> ooh i just made me one of them
[09:17:24] <crutchy> ++coffee
[09:17:24] <Scruffy> Karma - coffee: 275
[09:17:25] <crutchy> coffee++
[09:17:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1389
[09:43:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers: Cyber-Hate Intervention after Terrorist Event - http://sylnt.us - molding-public-opinion-or-providing-balance?
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[10:06:35] <crutchy> wow. this is depressing; http://www.bls.gov
[10:06:35] <Scruffy> ^ 03Inflation Calculator: Bureau of Labor Statistics
[10:07:14] <crutchy> calculate $1 in 2015 and check out how much it would have been worth in 1913
[10:07:21] <crutchy> a whole 4 cents
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[11:00:23] <paulej72> toast++
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[11:01:44] <Subsentient> On the bright side: $1.00 in 2015 == $0.98 in 2013
[11:02:01] <Subsentient> crutchy:
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[13:09:02] <Bytram> !uid
[13:09:02] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5262, owned by chrysosphinx
[13:09:09] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:09:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1390
[13:09:33] <Bytram> ~last nick=TheMightyBuzzard
[13:09:52] <Bytram> ~last
[13:09:57] <Bytram> ~seen
[13:09:59] <exec> try ~last instead
[13:09:59] <exec> 03Parameters: op [random,first,last,all,count] message regex to match channel limit scope to a channel since, until date/time range limit maximum records to return; default is 1 nick limit scope to a nick out [json, php, tab, irc] debug show the query and whatever else type [message,action]
[13:10:00] <exec> http://chromas.0x.no
[13:10:01] <exec> 03<TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:11:50] <janrinok> hi TheMightyBuzzard
[13:12:11] <janrinok> oops, I'm probably talking to a bot
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[13:49:14] <Bytram> paulej72++ # rehash bug swatter extrodinaire
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[13:49:19] <Bytram> !uid
[13:49:20] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5262, owned by chrysosphinx
[13:49:40] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[13:49:41] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 71°F, mostly cloudy, wind S at 7 mph, humidity 51% - Monday cloudy (64°F-81°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (64°F-86°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (64°F-85°F), Thursday scattered thunderstorms (63°F-80°F)
[13:49:45] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[13:49:47] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 70°F, mostly cloudy, wind S at 8 mph, humidity 46% - Monday cloudy (59°F-80°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (61°F-85°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (62°F-79°F), Thursday scattered thunderstorms (58°F-77°F)
[13:49:50] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, me
[13:49:51] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 63°F, mostly cloudy, wind S at 7 mph, humidity 50% - Monday partly cloudy (57°F-79°F), Tuesday showers (62°F-81°F), Wednesday scattered thunderstorms (65°F-83°F), Thursday scattered thunderstorms (55°F-75°F)
[13:50:15] <Bytram> coffee++
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[21:22:32] <arti> http://www.nytimes.com
[21:22:33] <Scruffy> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[21:22:39] <arti> "the cartel" "the mafia"
[21:27:41] <SirFinkus> how many are going to jail?
[21:27:42] <ciri> don't ask me!
[21:27:48] <SirFinkus> I didn't cunt
[21:31:42] <paulej72> read the whole article and it was weak on details. They did not even say how they manipulated the markets or how that affected normal people.
[21:32:11] <SirFinkus> that was just snark on my part, we all know none of them will serve a second of time
[21:33:23] <paulej72> and it seems the guilty pleas were by the banks not thier employees. The problem employees were said to have been left go when the shit hit the fan.
[21:33:31] <SirFinkus> my congressman is still shilling ex-im
[21:33:45] <SirFinkus> I looked into it more based on how desperately he was shilling it
[21:34:08] <SirFinkus> the lend out 12 billion a year, and 8 billion of that goes to boeing
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[21:34:25] <SirFinkus> pretty clear to see where his bread is buttered
[21:34:41] <n1> it also took a bit longer for the 'guilty pleas'
[21:34:49] <n1> as the banks needed assurances it wouldnt block them from the markets
[21:35:02] <n1> which would be normal procedure when admitting guilt for rigging markets
[21:35:36] <paulej72> but we are too big to fail
[21:37:18] <n1> 'In the past four years alone, JPMorgan Chase has paid out $28,902,150,000 in fines and settlements for fraudulent and illegal practices'
[21:37:34] <n1> business however, has not been affected.
[21:38:39] <SirFinkus> of course boeing is threatening to "move jobs overseas" if they don't get their money
[21:39:02] <arti> over the sea of canada?
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[22:30:30] <arti> http://en.wikipedia.org's_device
[22:30:31] <Scruffy> ^ 03Wiki: Duff's device
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[22:30:53] <arti> talk about a monstrosity
[22:31:10] <arti> not you k :D
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[23:22:22] <SirFinkus> from the --funroll-loops department
[23:24:02] <chromas> '
[23:24:13] <chromas> cat--
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[23:25:36] <takyon> hoverboard--
[23:25:36] <Bender> karma - hoverboard: -1
[23:25:39] <takyon> future--
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[23:50:29] <SpallsHurgenson> I hope everyone had an enjoyable celebration of the american military-industrial complex today :)
[23:51:14] <takyon> hoorah
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