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[00:06:57] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls!
[00:07:16] <SpallsHurgenson> my gameport-to-USB adapter arrived! I can use my old joystick again! Yay!
[00:07:42] <SpallsHurgenson> my PATA/SATA-to-USB adapter arrived... and it's DOA! Boo!
[00:08:30] <BadCoderFinger> Natch!
[00:09:21] <SpallsHurgenson> I've got an old 540MB HDD I've been hoarding since the mid '90s and I'm dying to see what's on it :)
[00:10:20] <BadCoderFinger> It'll be full of batch files and 256 color porn.
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[00:11:11] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't think it is, but I'd laugh if I found some :)
[00:11:50] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, most batch files are hilarious.
[00:12:32] <BadCoderFinger> I had to write recently one to generate a version file. No fun at all. But very funny looking.
[00:12:35] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, I've archived all my .BAT files from my DOS days and - for some reason - I copy 'em onto every new computer I get :)
[00:13:42] <BadCoderFinger> Just concatenate them onto autoexec.bat
[00:14:04] <takyon> http://www.tomsitpro.com
[00:14:05] <Scruffy> ^ 03HGST Ultrastar He8 8TB Enterprise HDD Review
[00:14:11] <takyon> I felt compelled
[00:14:42] <takyon> it's only about 14,814.8 times larger
[00:16:45] <SpallsHurgenson> didn't a google study indicate that paying for enterprise hdds is basically a waste, or am I misremembering?
[00:17:11] <takyon> all helium-filled drives from HGST are enterprise-only for now
[00:17:18] <takyon> pretty low stock and high prices
[00:17:44] <SpallsHurgenson> I
[00:17:48] <SpallsHurgenson> erm.
[00:17:58] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm happy with my array of 4GB drives :)
[00:18:10] <takyon> are you sure?
[00:18:21] <SpallsHurgenson> for the moment :)
[00:18:25] <BadCoderFinger> USB?
[00:18:50] <takyon> read-what-you-wrote
[00:18:51] <SpallsHurgenson> sadly, yes (the "server" doesn't have internal space for more drives :)
[00:18:58] <SpallsHurgenson> oh :)
[00:19:05] <SpallsHurgenson> GB, TB... it's all the same
[00:19:28] <BadCoderFinger> Aside from 3 orders of magnitude, yes, exactly the same.
[00:19:43] <SpallsHurgenson> my instincts are still calibrated to diskspace measured in kilobytes :)
[00:19:44] <takyon> if we're lucky we'll see 16 TB next year, and HAMR soon
[00:23:01] <SpallsHurgenson> its nice to see big drives, but the prices is always double what you expect because of backups :)
[00:23:53] <takyon> as long as the price per GB/TB drops
[00:24:16] <takyon> it's been stuck near $30/TB lately
[00:25:56] <takyon> http://singularityhub.com
[00:25:57] <Scruffy> ^ 03Watch Surgical Robot Deftly Suture a Grape | Singularity HUB
[00:26:42] <SpallsHurgenson> do doctors still suture? last time I had surgery they just stapled me back together
[00:27:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I think they use staples 'cause it gets 'em back onto the golf course faster :)
[00:28:18] <SpallsHurgenson> and I'm pretty sure the staple gun he used came from home depot :)
[00:28:56] <takyon> hmm
[00:29:26] <SpallsHurgenson> also, I noticed after he left that was missing a kidney :)
[00:30:11] <BadCoderFinger> You should probably put up a lost and found poster in the Doctor's office. Those kidneys can be worth some money.
[00:30:23] <SpallsHurgenson> office?
[00:30:28] <takyon> what a nice man, doing a kidney surgery for free
[00:30:34] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, you mean the van
[00:31:46] * SpallsHurgenson has a Chris Farley flashback, "I live in a VAN... down by the RIVER!"
[00:34:48] <BadCoderFinger> That's about the only kind of doctor that my insurance will cover.
[00:39:03] <SpallsHurgenson> that's the sort of free-market-will-take-care-of-it attitude that makes America great!
[00:39:45] <BadCoderFinger> I feel empowered to go vote for lizards!
[00:40:31] <SpallsHurgenson> !grab BadCoderFinger
[00:40:31] <Bender> Added quote 522
[00:43:23] <SpallsHurgenson> when our insect-overlords come into power, I can use that quote for blackmail :)
[00:43:36] <SpallsHurgenson> that's called planning ahead :)
[00:43:45] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[00:48:22] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, you think I'm kidding? You're putting my kids through college!
[00:48:32] <SpallsHurgenson> either that or you'll end up working in the sugar mines :)
[00:49:15] <BadCoderFinger> I'll get a discount on candy...
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[00:55:29] * SpallsHurgenson stores his new computer hardware into the appropriate bin and then chucks out the box it came in
[00:55:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I used to have a really hard time throwing out boxes
[00:56:14] <takyon> and 540 MB HDDs
[00:56:27] <mythterj> Expect need for warranty return in 3...2...1
[00:57:29] <SpallsHurgenson> you never know when a 540MB 5.25" IDE hard-drive might come in handy!
[00:58:28] <takyon> http://nextbigfuture.com
[00:58:30] <Scruffy> ^ 03Next Big Future: Quantum-mechanical monopoles discovered
[00:59:31] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, they use the word quantum so you know it must be super-futuristic!
[01:01:09] <takyon> or super-spooky
[01:01:51] <SpallsHurgenson> super science is spooky!
[01:18:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Baton Bob Receives $20,000 Settlement For Coerced Facebook Post - http://sylnt.us - officers-to-be-given-social-media-training
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[01:56:40] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, http://www.bonkersworld.net
[01:56:42] <Scruffy> ^ 03Stores in the Cloud | Bonkers World
[01:59:57] cmn32480|eatin is now known as cmn32480
[02:04:05] <BadCoderFinger> Hey cmn32480
[02:04:21] <cmn32480> whats hapening badcoderfinger
[02:05:27] <BadCoderFinger> More code, more grumbling, but still good.
[02:08:19] <BadCoderFinger> How are you?
[02:10:54] <cmn32480> doing alright
[02:11:03] <cmn32480> in INdianapolis today and tomorrow
[02:11:44] <cmn32480> but I got to have a very fattening dinner with my uncle
[02:11:53] <cmn32480> 1/2lb burger AFTER cooking
[02:12:01] <BadCoderFinger> Holy crap...
[02:12:04] <cmn32480> you eat the 1lb and you gt a picture on the wall
[02:12:30] <BadCoderFinger> There's a chain that does that, I saw them in Maryland.
[02:13:20] <cmn32480> whcih chain? I'll have to visit...
[02:13:31] <BadCoderFinger> I worked with a guy that would eat the 1lb with no sweat.
[02:14:01] <takyon> america
[02:14:16] <BadCoderFinger> Cheeburger Cheeburger
[02:14:32] <cmn32480> really? I dind't know they did that. There is one around the corner from my house
[02:17:51] <BadCoderFinger> I could eat the 1/2 lb easily, but that guy could eat the 1lb in 4 minutes 30 seconds.
[02:19:47] <cmn32480> oh my
[02:20:01] <cmn32480> i mean.... oh my
[02:20:37] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah. It was impressive.
[02:21:14] <cmn32480> he must have a had a colon built of cast iron
[02:21:48] <cmn32480> eating that much that fast can't be good for you
[02:22:15] <mrcoolbp> I usually eat that quickly
[02:22:16] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I second that.
[02:22:50] <takyon> just-because-you-can-doesn't-mean-you-should dept.
[02:23:09] <mrcoolbp> aye.
[02:23:28] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp... a 1 lb burger, with fixins, in 4 min and 30 seconds....
[02:23:34] <cmn32480> I mean holy crap
[02:24:06] <mrcoolbp> oh tru, I don't eat that much but I eat very quick
[02:24:12] <cmn32480> don't get me wrong I had a 1/2lb burger w/ LTO, bacon and a fried egg for dinner
[02:24:25] <cmn32480> and it was delicious
[02:24:46] <cmn32480> but they had a cardiologist on standby
[02:25:33] <cmn32480> the fried egg really made it perfect
[02:26:09] <cmn32480> hehehe... we just got a resume in for a lady named "Diamond".... and I don't work at a strip club
[02:27:31] <takyon> if you want to feel like an American, you really need to eat
[02:27:55] <takyon> a cheeseburger, topped with bacon, with a krispy kreme donut as the bun. 1 sliced in half, or two if you're feeling red-blooded
[02:28:51] <cmn32480> there was a chili dog at the Wilmington Blue Rocks in DE that was similar to that
[02:29:25] <cmn32480> http://www.philly.com
[02:29:26] <Scruffy> ^ 03The Wilmington Blue Rocks to debut Krispy Kreme doughnut hot dog this season
[02:29:30] <Landon> mm
[02:29:32] <cmn32480> Thanks Scruffy
[02:29:34] <Landon> they also had breakfast sammiches
[02:30:28] <BadCoderFinger> Yikes man.
[02:30:33] <cmn32480> i have to wonder if stuff like this ought to come with a free angioplasty
[02:32:08] <takyon> just walk it off man
[02:32:10] <takyon> just walk it off
[02:32:32] <cmn32480> keep eating them and I'll be living in a van down by the river
[02:33:13] <BadCoderFinger> The "living" part may not be included, but otherwise correct.
[02:34:37] <cmn32480> too true
[02:34:39] <SpallsHurgenson> argh, you've triggered another Farley flashback!
[02:35:08] <cmn32480> as long as it isn't the one where he is trying out for the Chip n' Dales w/ Patrick Swayze
[02:38:08] <cmn32480> nice to see you SpallsHurgenson
[02:38:48] <SpallsHurgenson> eeep, cmn32480 has hacked my webcam!
[02:38:54] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:39:30] <cmn32480> MY EYES!!! MY EYES!!!! I AM BLINDED BY THE NAKEDNESSS!!!!! AAARRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
[02:39:47] <BadCoderFinger> Dude, everyone has hacked your webcam. Due to the startling lack of pants in your domicile, everyone who has hacked has subsequently deleted the password and then commenced heavy drinking.
[02:40:20] <cmn32480> good plan... will that cure brain tatoo??
[02:40:45] <BadCoderFinger> No way to be sure except alcohol poisoning.
[02:42:04] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, I'm one of the beautiful people!
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[02:42:36] <cmn32480> just because your mother told you so doesn't make it true, spallshurgenson
[02:42:38] * SpallsHurgenson shakes it for the crowd
[02:42:40] <BadCoderFinger> Also, you should monitor what the cat is up to when you're not watching.
[02:47:50] <cmn32480> Jesus H Fucking Roosevelt Christ the goddamn chair just flipped on me
[02:48:11] <SpallsHurgenson> Murder-chair!
[02:48:29] <cmn32480> SpallsHurgenson has hacked my chair!
[02:49:11] <BadCoderFinger> HA!
[02:49:40] <cmn32480> he flipped it 'cuz I'm bare assed in it
[02:49:45] <cmn32480> that must be it
[02:49:58] <cmn32480> if I put on pants, will you not do that again?
[02:49:59] <takyon> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:50:01] <Scruffy> ^ 03Baidu now backing Uber's bid for Nokia maps • The Register
[02:50:12] <SpallsHurgenson> who knows what's next? Fridges, floorboards, small washcloths... they are all potential death machines!
[02:50:26] <BadCoderFinger> Pants avoidance is contagious! Dear god, where will this end?
[02:51:52] <SpallsHurgenson> kilts. it will all end in kilts.
[02:52:10] <cmn32480> what about what goes under a kilt?
[02:52:23] <SpallsHurgenson> its kilts all the way down!
[02:53:34] <cmn32480> Diana Gabaldon (the author of the Outlander series) said something like - "there is somethign special about a man in a kilt. the knowledge that all he has to do is push you up against the wall and take you at any time.
[02:55:48] <BadCoderFinger> Sounds like something unresolved in her past...
[02:56:25] <cmn32480> I woudl agree
[03:13:03] <takyon> http://www.space.com
[03:13:03] <Scruffy> ^ 03Air Force's Robotic X-37B Space Plane Launches Mystery Mission This Week
[03:14:29] <BadCoderFinger> The mystery is where the crash site is located.
[03:14:46] <takyon> aliens don't crash
[03:15:22] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:20:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Sells .car, Walks Away from Generic TLDs - http://sylnt.us - .search-.cloud-.store-.movie
[03:26:53] <cmn32480> ok gents... time for me to get some sleep.... I ahve to be at a customer site in the AM
[03:27:06] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, time to bail. Night guys!
[03:27:15] <cmn32480> night badcoderfinger
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[05:15:46] <Landon> hooo boy, witcher 3
[05:15:48] <Landon> damn that's good
[05:42:39] <arti> digging it?
[05:45:51] <Subsentient> Ohh man, I checked out a book on C++ at the library to read in spare time since the netbook isn't great for actually doing coding in this motel, and oh god it's even worse than I thought it was
[05:46:46] <Subsentient> I go back and read some vanilla C source and it puts a smile back on my face.
[05:47:11] <Subsentient> I'm going to learn it though. I don't like it but imma learn it.
[05:48:52] <arti> how recent is the book?
[05:57:03] <Subsentient> arti: 2008
[05:57:20] <Subsentient> I'm aware of C++11 and C++14
[05:58:16] * arti yoda nods
[05:58:21] <arti> informed, you are
[06:52:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Tool for Employers Calculates the Full Cost of Employee Turnover - http://sylnt.us - real-costs
[06:57:08] <arti> ^- pimps everywhere rejoice
[07:00:59] * crutchy proposes that bender story messages be relayed to the #soylentnews channel on freenode
[07:02:06] <chromas> they should just join us :)
[07:03:34] * crutchy proposes that everyone on freenode be warped into #soylent
[07:12:16] <arti> http://dictionary.cambridge.org
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[07:54:56] <deroby> ping! Anybody home?
[07:56:20] <crutchy> ~g'day deroby
[07:56:22] * exec unjustifiably flings a tinfoil hat of splodge at deroby
[07:59:32] <NCommander> you know, it truly dons on me how amazing this project is
[07:59:42] <NCommander> That we're running on nothing but goodwill from the community and succeeding
[08:01:06] * crutchy is a moocher
[08:05:36] <deroby> I was wondering where to put a suggestion for the moderation system. Easiest way seems to be to simply log an issue on github, right ?
[08:06:37] <crutchy> a few people can use ~rehash-issue
[08:07:15] <crutchy> there's also a suggestions page on the wiki
[08:07:32] <deroby> ah, the wiki...
[08:07:41] <crutchy> [[Suggestions]]
[08:07:42] <exec> 13this page: http://sylnt.us
[08:07:43] <exec> 02http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/Suggestions
[08:08:05] <deroby> hmm... I'll go have a look there first, might well be someone else already submitted it before me...
[08:08:10] <deroby> thx!
[08:08:19] <crutchy> can use ~suggest to post to that page as well
[08:08:21] <crutchy> np :)
[08:14:39] <deroby> Seems I can also send an email... think I'll do that, gives me more 'writing space' than IRC but doesn't clutter the github issue list.
[08:14:50] <deroby> and makes it easier to ignore by the devs =P
[08:16:40] <crutchy> ~last channel=# nick=ciri
[08:16:57] <exec> 03[2015-05-19 08:04:1] # <ciri> exec: The okay stop okay cowshit fpos congress, crypto niggawhut cool meatspal http://sylnt.us - just-one-lil-chip.
[08:24:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Black Silicon Solar Cell Efficiency at 22.1% - http://sylnt.us
[08:43:10] <NCommander> deroby, there's a post in the queue set to go live on wednesday about Moderation
[08:43:33] <NCommander> deroby, I did read the comments about it on the disclosure post
[08:52:30] <crutchy> we need a moderation system that uses neural fuzzy genetics
[08:56:52] <deroby> NCommander, hmm.. I ran through the list diagonally so may have missed it, but I don't think it was about what I wanted to suggest ( = way to jump back to originatign moderation comment)
[08:57:06] <deroby> but if it is, all the better =)
[08:57:36] <deroby> anyway, I sent the mail, we'll see what comes out of it. Gotta go now, bye all
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[09:03:38] <NCommander> damn it, I missed him
[09:24:39] <crutchy> ~queue
[09:24:43] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 11 - http://sylnt.us
[09:24:49] <crutchy> !uid
[09:24:50] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5255, owned by stack
[09:27:09] <chromas> Trace that immediately!
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[10:25:13] <crutchy> ~host stack
[10:25:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Is There An Interest For A Localized SoylentNews.org? - http://sylnt.us - translators-will-be-wanted
[10:33:16] <crutchy> omg that's what keeps the devs going!
[10:33:20] <crutchy> POT files!
[10:33:55] <crutchy> how do i sign up to get access to these POT files.. err... i mean do important dev shit :p
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[13:58:44] <janrinok> hi again guys
[13:59:26] <paulej72> hello
[13:59:35] <janrinok> hi paulej72, how's things?
[13:59:36] <ciri> well well well janrinok
[13:59:45] <paulej72> not bad
[13:59:55] <janrinok> good to hear
[14:00:01] <paulej72> babysitting some data archives today
[14:00:17] <janrinok> ?
[14:01:46] <paulej72> I am archiving data directoroies for some old users, but the transfers are large and somtimes have issues. so i need to keep an eye on them
[14:02:03] <janrinok> ah, that makes more sense to me now
[14:02:52] <paulej72> one of my jobs did mid transfer and I am attempting to fix it without having to start over.
[14:03:22] <paulej72> had 165GB moved and probably only another 50GB left
[14:03:33] <janrinok> doesn't sound like much that I can help you with
[14:03:37] <paulej72> not did, die
[14:03:56] <janrinok> I thought that's what you meant anyway
[14:04:27] <paulej72> it was my own fault i should have protected the transfer by putting it in the background
[14:04:47] <janrinok> a mistake that we have all made at some time or other :)
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[14:46:25] <CoolHand> paulej72: rsync (or robocopy on windows)...
[14:47:03] <paulej72> I am making archives so its tar and .tgz
[14:48:33] <CoolHand> ok... I still thought those utilities would resume even on a single file..
[14:48:47] <CoolHand> but I could be wrong :)
[14:48:57] <paulej72> not when the console seesion dies
[14:49:22] <paulej72> due to network crap out
[14:49:23] <CoolHand> run in tmux or screen?
[14:49:36] <paulej72> yes I forgort to run screen
[14:49:52] <CoolHand> ah! now I see :)
[14:50:10] <SirFinkus> I remember when I discovered screen
[14:50:34] <SirFinkus> I really should just add it to my startup commands when I connect over ssh
[14:50:38] <CoolHand> SirFinkus: it was a joyous occasion right?
[14:50:45] <SirFinkus> every time I get cocky and don't use it, it bites me in the ass
[14:51:05] <SirFinkus> yes
[14:51:07] <CoolHand> I keep trying to turn my co-workers on to tmux (or screen)... but haven't had much luck..
[14:51:19] <CoolHand> I can't understand it
[14:51:38] <paulej72> well I normally do not have issues with the campus intranet, but something has benn happening the last couple of days that kills my ssh sessions to the servers
[14:51:41] <SirFinkus> wait until they're ssh'd doing something and unplug it
[14:51:46] <SirFinkus> NSA
[14:52:38] <SirFinkus> that reminds me, I really should set up key based authentication on my new server
[14:52:56] <CoolHand> yeah, they've had connections drop, and I say, "I can tell you how to avoid that"... I send them an email with some tutorials on screen/tmux, and they never seem to want to check it out
[14:53:23] <CoolHand> isn't key-based setup by default normally? (unless you mean key-only)
[14:53:44] <SirFinkus> not that I'm aware, I've always had to enable it
[14:54:57] <CoolHand> hmmm... maybe I dreamed just being able to ssh-copy-id to new servers.. it's quite possible :)
[14:55:27] <SirFinkus> could be wrong too, haven't needed to do it in a while
[14:55:33] <paulej72> well looks like I'll need to restart my 550GB tar job again. its about a 24 h job
[14:55:43] <janrinok> CoolHand: SirFinkus: hi
[14:55:48] <CoolHand> home dir perms usually need touched up though..
[14:55:49] <SirFinkus> hi janrinok
[14:55:50] <ciri> :D SirFinkus
[14:55:50] <CoolHand> hey janrinok
[14:55:52] * SirFinkus checks
[14:55:55] <janrinok> you both good?
[14:56:00] <SirFinkus> you've given me an excuse CoolHand
[14:56:07] <CoolHand> SirFinkus: :)
[14:56:16] <kadal> tmux is awesome! just switched from screen a couple of months back
[14:56:28] <janrinok> hi kadal
[14:56:29] <CoolHand> janrinok: yeah, just back from a nice weekend up to Mackinack Island (great lakes region)..
[14:56:34] <paulej72> i nver tried tmux yet
[14:56:35] <kadal> hi janrinok
[14:56:44] <kadal> it's like a saner version of screen
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[14:56:49] <janrinok> I'm just googling tmux now
[14:56:50] <CoolHand> kadal: I agree! although screen is easier to get installed on our AIX servers..
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[14:57:10] <paulej72> yum install tmux
[14:57:10] <CoolHand> I"m purely tmux on linux/bsd
[14:57:18] <CoolHand> apt-get install tmux
[14:57:19] <CoolHand> :)
[14:57:34] <kadal> I haven't really used any of the split screen features yet. But it's a really good drop-in replacement
[14:57:39] <kadal> for screen i.e.
[14:57:55] <CoolHand> I had to switch ctrl-b to other keys though
[14:58:00] <CoolHand> ctrl-b sux!
[14:58:25] <CoolHand> I like ctrl-q, so if run screen on servers, I can use ctrl-a for that, and ctrl-q on my workstation
[14:58:31] <kadal> Yeah I changed it to '`'
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[14:59:07] <janrinok> I've installed it and playing now!
[14:59:07] <CoolHand> kadal: oh, that sounds nice..
[14:59:46] <kadal> CoolHand: I just followed this guy: http://www.linuxized.com
[14:59:48] <Scruffy> ^ 03switching from gnu screen to tmux (updated) | Linux~ized
[14:59:49] <CoolHand> https://tylercipriani.com
[14:59:50] <Scruffy> ^ 03Knowledge Nuggets From My Tmux.conf
[15:00:01] <CoolHand> kadal: hah! same idea!
[15:00:10] <CoolHand> I followed several including the one I pasted
[15:00:29] <kadal> CoolHand: I hadn't seen that one. Thanks!
[15:00:35] <kadal> Now I know how to procrastinate this afternoon
[15:00:40] <CoolHand> lol
[15:00:41] <ciri> heh
[15:01:53] <kadal> Getting back the use of Ctrl-a was sweet.
[15:02:19] <SirFinkus> CoolHand: you were correct
[15:02:37] <CoolHand> SirFinkus: it happens occasionally.. :)
[15:02:42] <CoolHand> when I get lucky
[15:07:44] <SirFinkus> I think it's because I always disable password login while I'm mucking with the keys
[15:11:15] <SirFinkus> On FedEx vehicle for delivery
[15:11:15] <SirFinkus> DUPONT, WA
[15:11:18] <SirFinkus> oh glorious day
[16:09:04] <Cyprus> wha'd ya order?
[16:11:03] <SirFinkus> this is an RMA on a bag I got a few years back
[16:11:10] <Cyprus> ahh
[16:11:20] <SirFinkus> I can finally ride without using my old shitty backpack
[16:11:59] <Cyprus> i know the feeling, i finally replaced my 10 year old backpack in the last month
[16:20:56] <SirFinkus> it can be pretty hard to find a good bag
[16:21:31] <SirFinkus> http://www.stmbags.com
[16:21:34] <Scruffy> ^ 03laptop bags > laptop backpacks > impulse 15" laptop backpack > STM Bags
[16:21:35] <SirFinkus> what I'm getting
[16:22:16] <SirFinkus> I hope it comes before noon, because I have places to be
[16:22:40] <mechanicjay> After spending $$ on bags and having them fall apart after a year, I was desparate, at Ikea and saw a smallish backpack w/ laptop compartment for like $20.
[16:23:38] <mechanicjay> I'm almost 3 years in on this bag and the zippers still work, the stitching at the top straps isn't coming loose and I'm not blowing holes through the bottom corners (The failure modes for my last 3 bags)
[16:24:40] <SirFinkus> my old one lasted 3 years of bike commuting in most weather, the zipper finally broke, I sent a picture, and they're sending me the new one
[16:26:03] <mechanicjay> SirFinkus: that's awesome
[16:26:32] <Cyprus> im trying to find the one we all got, its a nice osprey with side access laptop and bike features
[16:26:58] <SirFinkus> I had an old columbia one I used even longer and still works perfectly, but it doesn't have a good place to put a laptop
[16:27:14] <SirFinkus> side access?
[16:27:19] <Cyprus> i did like the feel of my swisgear better, but its quite old
[16:27:24] <SirFinkus> I'd be paranoid about that opening mid ride
[16:27:37] <Cyprus> yeah its got normal access through the top, and a zipper side access directly to that bay
[16:27:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'd like to start bike commuting but I'd rather not have to carry anything on my back...which means I need to get a bike with a rack...
[16:27:53] <SirFinkus> spooky
[16:28:07] <Cyprus> i barely bike on campus, don't see ever biking to/from work
[16:28:10] <SirFinkus> AndyTheAbsurd: most bikes will have mounts for a rack
[16:28:43] <SirFinkus> provided the bike isn't super specialized
[16:28:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> SirFinkus: I currently only have a mountain bike, so it's got essentially 0 commuter-friendly features.
[16:29:08] <SirFinkus> or you can get a messenger bag
[16:29:13] <SirFinkus> ahh
[16:29:50] <SirFinkus> I have panniers for bigger loads, but it's noticeably less aerodynamic
[16:30:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm thinking about finding one of these locally to test-ride: http://www.raleighusa.com
[16:30:05] <Scruffy> ^ 03Raleigh Bicycles - Detour 5.5
[16:30:18] <mechanicjay> Even a mtn bike should have a couple bolt-holes on the rear dropout, you can little clamps to go on the seat-stays if they don't have moutning eyelets for a rack.
[16:30:35] <mechanicjay> It's how I'm mouting a rack on my ~1975 road bike
[16:32:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> I know that I *could* put a rack and fenders on a mountain bike (actually I already have fenders for it, but they're not very stable and always end up rubbing the tires) but at this point I'd rather have something actually made for the street.
[16:33:03] <SirFinkus> I was thinking of picking up one of these eventually
[16:33:03] <SirFinkus> http://biketechonline.com
[16:33:06] <Scruffy> ^ 03Trek Steel District - Bike Tech - South Sound's Best Bike Shop
[16:33:28] * SirFinkus wouldn't want to ride a mountain bike around town
[16:33:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> And I live in Florida so it's not like I spend much time using the very high or very low gears.
[16:41:22] <CoolHand> I just rode a 51 mile ride this w/e, and had panniers on for the first time.. I didn't really notice extra drag (on a hybrid or "flat bar road bike")
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[16:42:41] <SirFinkus> might just be because I have fat ones
[16:43:06] <SirFinkus> or because they're usually loaded with shit
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[17:02:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> about time
[17:07:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> although not the lawsuit I'd like to see brought against them
[17:08:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> (but then, I don't think the SEC deals with false advertising claims...)
[17:21:59] <SirFinkus> https://instagram.com
[17:22:00] <Scruffy> ^ 03Instagram
[17:22:00] <SirFinkus> lol
[17:22:01] <ciri> heh
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[18:32:39] <janrinok> back again guys - that was a long 5 minutes, more like 3 hours
[18:34:25] <CoolHand> someone needs a new pocketwatch...
[18:34:35] <janrinok> yep
[18:35:14] * janrinok has also cooked and eaten his dinner, and programmed some python :)
[18:36:26] <CoolHand> janrinok is one productive dude..
[18:36:37] <SirFinkus> that doesn't sound very nice, pythons don't like being programmed
[18:36:42] <janrinok> sometimes :)
[18:37:03] * CoolHand is going out for a beer with cmn32480 in about 2.5 hours..
[18:37:04] <janrinok> my python is quite happy being programmed.
[18:37:32] <janrinok> ah, that is all happening tonight? Well, I hope you both enjoy yourselves. I wish I could be there with you.
[18:38:01] <CoolHand> me too.. that'd be extra fun.. :)
[18:38:08] <janrinok> I'll drink a virtual toast to your health
[18:38:16] <CoolHand> thank you, sir!
[18:41:11] <CoolHand> we're going to a place with a good selection of Indiana Microbrews... (after I spent the w/e drinking lots of Michigan microbrews)... ahh, yeah... living the life.. :)
[18:41:30] <janrinok> now I really _do_ envy you.
[18:42:52] <Cyprus> ewww Michigan
[18:43:17] <janrinok> Cyprus: surely it's better than no beer at all?
[18:43:36] <CoolHand> I found this one over the w/e that I *really* enjoyed... http://www.beeradvocate.com
[18:43:36] <Scruffy> ^ 03Neapolitan Milk Stout | Saugatuck Brewing Company | Douglas, MI | BeerAdvocate
[18:43:47] <Cyprus> i dont have a problem with the beer
[18:43:56] <Cyprus> i thought you meant you were in Michigan
[18:44:14] <CoolHand> I *was* in Michigan.. drinking all their beer... :)
[18:44:22] <janrinok> ah, I don't mind where I drink beer, as long as I am drinking it!
[18:45:21] <CoolHand> I drank beer in Harbor Springs. Woke up and bicycled 51 miles up to Mackinaw City then ferried over to Mackincack Island and drank beer there
[18:45:46] <CoolHand> it was a good time :)
[18:45:54] <CoolHand> what don't you like about Michigan?
[18:46:15] <Cyprus> the weather, the people, the state.... =)
[18:46:19] <CoolHand> haha, ok
[18:46:28] <Cyprus> my cousin is from Ann Arbor
[18:46:31] <janrinok> ...but the beer is ok
[18:46:59] <CoolHand> ahh... yeah, well, I like the northern part of the state better than down south by Detroit/Ann Arbor...
[18:47:07] <Cyprus> i'll never understand why people fly *into* that state
[18:47:09] <CoolHand> and can't really stand MSU or MU
[18:47:16] <janrinok> CoolHand: did your wife decide to join you both on tonight's little drinky-poo session?
[18:47:41] <CoolHand> janrinok: naw... she's not working today, so not really close, and she's got other stuff going on...
[18:47:56] <janrinok> don't blame her ;)
[18:48:15] <CoolHand> yeah, we'll probly talk geeky stuff taht would bore her anyway
[18:48:39] <janrinok> yeah, like that is the reason....
[18:49:14] <SirFinkus> "Neapolitan Milk Stout"
[18:49:16] * SirFinkus vomits
[18:49:28] <janrinok> I don't want to be reading about riots, arrests or whatever caused by 2 geeks in tomorrow's press!
[18:50:27] <CoolHand> janrinok: well, if we start riots, I'm sure we'll avoid mentioning any connection to SN.. :)
[18:50:55] <CoolHand> SirFinkus: not a stout fan?
[18:50:58] <janrinok> if this site is defunct tomorrow - I'll know who to blame
[18:51:07] <SirFinkus> I love stouts, I just don't want any bullshit in them
[18:51:20] <janrinok> what bullshit is in the stout?
[18:51:32] <janrinok> unless it is real milk
[18:51:54] <SirFinkus> strawberry?
[18:52:06] <CoolHand> It just went down smooth like a Guiness.. as compared to a lot of stouts with harsher flavors..
[18:52:27] <CoolHand> yeah, I didn't even realize there was supposed to be strawberrry or it was based on "neapolitan" ice cream
[18:52:31] <janrinok> I've never seen a stout recipe with fruit in it!
[18:52:41] <CoolHand> I don't really have that refined of a palate.. I just know what I like! :)
[18:52:48] <SirFinkus> guiness is the budweiser of stouts
[18:53:18] <CoolHand> SirFinkus: yes.. I agree.. but it's still nice.. hehe
[18:53:45] <janrinok> SirFinkus: I'm not quite sure which drink should be the most insulted by that comment
[18:54:00] <SirFinkus> both
[18:54:05] <janrinok> lol
[18:54:05] <ciri> now that is funny
[18:54:35] <janrinok> time to go - CoolHand have a good evening and pass my best to cmn please
[18:54:40] <SirFinkus> well, time for a bike ride of my own
[18:54:43] <SirFinkus> and errands
[18:54:57] <janrinok> a good day, evening, or whatever to you all
[18:55:29] <CoolHand> see ya janrinok ! have a good one!
[18:56:36] * SirFinkus almost forgot pants
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[18:57:06] <SirFinkus> took my sweats off, then put my shoes on before my jeans
[18:57:37] <CoolHand> well, if you had nice boot-cut jeans, that might work.. :)
[18:57:44] <CoolHand> or were wearing Vibrams
[19:03:35] <Cyprus> strawberry stout.... wtf?
[19:04:27] <CoolHand> it wasn't strawberry, it was neapolitan..
[19:05:20] <CoolHand> I dunno.. I couldn't even taste strawberry... but there were people in those reviews that claim to taste it..
[19:05:56] <CoolHand> I always think these wine and beer connossieurs are full of BS on what they taste, but maybe I just don't have good enough taste buds..
[19:06:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> CoolHand: No, it's been scientifically proven that you're right.
[19:06:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> Blindfolded or tricked, they can't tell the difference between a red wine and white wine.
[19:06:59] <CoolHand> AndyTheAbsurd: well, that makes me feel better... although, I'm not sure I can believe that..
[19:07:26] <CoolHand> unless they close their noses.. there's a big difference between most whites and reds
[19:08:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> CoolHand: check it out: http://web.stanford.edu
[19:09:04] <CoolHand> http://web.archive.org
[19:10:58] <CoolHand> interesting..
[19:12:15] <CoolHand> I wonder if they used any blind people in the blind study... one would think they would fair better..
[19:13:09] <CoolHand> here's a good article on it.. http://io9.com
[19:13:09] <Scruffy> ^ 03Wine tasting is bullshit. Here's why.
[19:13:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah I was about to link that one as well but I got distracted by $WORK
[19:14:06] <CoolHand> yeah that happens to me too..
[19:25:49] <mythterj> Everybody knows its bullshit, but its enjouable anyway. Besides, if you play it right, you can arrange to do a series of side by side, and run your brackets like a basketball tourney till you find the one you like the best. Forget the ratings and reviews, just buy whatever wins your taste-off. And quit after a couple bracket runs, because your sense of taste an smell are corrupted by then. Oh, and another thing, There are no bargains to be found in ta
[19:31:19] <chromas> you were cut off
[19:31:26] <chromas> "found in ta"
[19:40:34] <mythterj> Found in tasting rooms. Sorry....
[19:40:58] * chromas blames Microsoft
[19:41:03] <mythterj> I've never been cut off in tasting rooms..
[19:41:44] <mythterj> What does microsoft hve to do with it? Do they run tasting rooms ;-p
[19:41:44] <chromas> it was just the tip; You were circumcised
[19:43:39] <mythterj> (I'm on openbsd, shelled into my host (netbsd) running irssi. Its kind of ancient stuff all the way up the chaint.
[19:43:59] <chromas> ah, it's irssi's fault :)
[19:45:25] <CoolHand> mythterj even avoids systemd.. the *new* Microsoft..
[19:45:26] <mythterj> Its crap to be sure, but I cant bring an xterm back through the company firewall.
[19:45:56] <CoolHand> I really dig my irssi that I keep running on my vps.. definitely wouldn't call it crap
[19:47:30] <mythterj> Its like vi or emacs, once you get use to the straight shell-ish nature of it, it can do the job with zero bandwidth.
[19:47:58] <CoolHand> yep, and quicker/more efficiently
[19:48:00] <CoolHand> :)
[19:48:14] <chromas> it could use a script to split long messages though
[19:50:11] <mythterj> Well, I quickly become lost in it as soon as I open more than one channel. Post wrong things in wrong channel, have to run away and hide.
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[20:09:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, irssi's fault; get (and auto-load) splitlong.pl and that won't happen any more.
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[20:20:53] <Cyprus> heh i'm using irssi
[20:21:03] <Cyprus> it's not that unheard of
[20:21:16] <Cyprus> most of my team does
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[21:15:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> Cyprus: irssi is awesome; I'm connected to 5 servers right now and two of them are actually gateways to slack.com.
[21:22:01] <Cyprus> yeah i'm on a few as well, mostly work stuff. This is my only real "slack" channel
[21:27:43] <SirFinkus> and I'm back, good ride
[21:28:12] <mechanicjay> How do you guys feel about slack.com?
[21:28:38] <Cyprus> never heard of it
[21:29:06] <Cyprus> oh i recognize it now
[21:29:23] <Cyprus> honestly i think it would be a field day for compliance auditors
[21:29:37] <mechanicjay> we're using here for internal communications. I kinda of don't get it. It's like IRC in a web browser -- where you can easily dump screenshots in.
[21:29:39] <Cyprus> i think back to things coworkers did when i worked for the hospital chain
[21:29:48] <Cyprus> ive heard its really nice
[21:30:06] <mechanicjay> So, I turned on the xmpp gateway and connect to it w/ pidgeon
[21:30:11] <Cyprus> its like if you had irc, with pintrest integration and multiplayer whiteboard i think
[21:30:59] <Cyprus> like trying to manage an agile project in it is really nice is the best example i've heard
[21:31:48] <Cyprus> integrated bugs, changesets, todos, targets, i hear its really sexy
[21:32:06] <mechanicjay> yeah, maybe we're just using it in a dumb way -- little more than a graphical irc -- which is like, I'll just run an Irc server rather than deal with all this gui/webbyish frippery.
[21:32:53] <Cyprus> yeah, i think you have that guess correct
[21:33:13] <Cyprus> thats more like a semi permanent google hangout
[21:33:19] <Cyprus> which this is WAY better than
[21:33:42] <Cyprus> don't get me wrong, i love work irc rooms
[21:33:56] <mechanicjay> yeah, that's exactly what we're using it as, a permanent hangout
[21:33:56] <Cyprus> but slack is really nice from what i've seen if you actually start moving stuff to it
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[21:34:34] <Cyprus> and as nice as hangouts can be, irc is better than then for non IM like behavior
[21:34:49] <Cyprus> that and your messages arrive without a random seed attached....
[21:36:12] <Cyprus> my big issue with slack though was, do you really want to move your actual business processes to something someone else hosts? seems brave to me
[21:37:09] <Cyprus> although cloud hosting of stuff has come a long way, there are a lot of issues from it, like legal discovery due to third party, etc
[21:48:59] <mechanicjay> I try to remind people that one definition of cloud is, "Paying a non-deterministic amount of money to use someone else's datacenter".
[21:49:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> yeah, I'm not yet really convinced the cloud is useful for more than a handful of things.
[21:49:30] <mechanicjay> Not that we shouldn't be constantly evaluation cloud solutions for where they make strategic business sense, but it ain't free and it ain't magic.
[21:50:27] <mechanicjay> Philosophically, I'm against a such a concentration of power, but can be a hard sell and makes you sound like a nutter.
[21:50:41] * mechanicjay may be a nutter
[21:50:51] <Cyprus> i really like some aspects of cloud, but i just don't like having internal business processes locked in to 1 vendor and reliant on them for existance
[21:51:25] <AndyTheAbsurd> for personal e-mail, cloud-based makes sense. For public-facing internet services (including web sites) that may have drastically scale up on short notice, cloud-based makes sense. For everything else...give careful consideration to the pitfalls of cloud computing vs the pitfalls of colocation vs the pitfalls of hosting locally.
[21:51:27] <Cyprus> i mean it works like this, what happens if this company is bought out / taken over by creditors and ceases operations tomorrow?
[21:51:45] <mechanicjay> yeah, hell, I'm not even sold on the idea that farming out email to google is a good idea. Lots of IP and sensitive information flowing through there.
[21:51:48] <Cyprus> for generic hosting, its not a big deal, that shit moves easily
[21:52:05] <Cyprus> i'll try not to comment on farming to google =P
[21:52:29] <mechanicjay> ....do you work for google or something?
[21:52:30] <Cyprus> but it scares me to do something like slack for everything as nice as it may be
[22:00:35] <mechanicjay> ugh...time to caffinate
[22:03:20] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:03:20] <Scruffy> Karma - coffee: 270
[22:03:20] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:03:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1377
[22:03:27] <crutchy> ~weather
[22:03:28] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:03:37] <crutchy> derp
[22:04:26] <crutchy> ~weather
[22:04:27] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:05:37] <Cyprus> ~weather
[22:05:38] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:05:46] <crutchy> google-- # changed the damn weather thingy again :/
[22:05:46] <Bender> karma - google: -12
[22:05:51] <Cyprus> ~amnesia
[22:05:58] * Cyprus is sad
[22:06:33] <crutchy> ~time
[22:06:35] <exec> Wednesday, 20 May 2015 @ 8:06 am GMT+10 - Melbourne VIC
[22:06:42] <crutchy> at least time works
[22:06:48] <Cyprus> are you scraping or is there an api?
[22:06:54] <crutchy> scrape
[22:07:04] <Cyprus> yeah, scraping is actively policed
[22:07:07] <Cyprus> good luck with that
[22:07:37] <crutchy> only get problems when they change the weather box layout usually
[22:08:27] <crutchy> otherwise i'm just an avid weather researcher using iceweasel with js disabled :p
[22:08:33] <Cyprus> lol
[22:08:56] <Cyprus> i'm a sign, not a cop
[22:09:04] <crutchy> hehe
[22:09:13] <Cyprus> i don't advise scraping in any volume though =)
[22:09:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~weather 33701
[22:09:23] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[22:09:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> well that's annoying
[22:09:39] <crutchy> i doubt they prolly even notice
[22:09:42] <Cyprus> "That's a nice server you got there, it'd be a shame if something were to happen to it's ability to search"
[22:09:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> I found a free-to-use weather API a while back...
[22:09:50] <crutchy> haha
[22:10:14] <crutchy> i would be the least of google's problems
[22:10:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think it was this one: http://openweathermap.org
[22:10:32] <Scruffy> ^ 03current
[22:10:50] <crutchy> oh yeah we have a few trusty weather bots anyway so that's good :)
[22:10:57] <crutchy> redundancy++
[22:10:57] <Bender> karma - redundancy: 2
[22:11:07] <Cyprus> public api is the way to go
[22:11:08] <crutchy> ;weather melbourne
[22:11:08] <MrPlow> Syntax: ;weather City, ST or ;weather zip code
[22:11:15] <Cyprus> scraping is like prce
[22:11:26] <crutchy> ;weather melbourne vic
[22:11:26] <MrPlow> Syntax: ;weather City, ST or ;weather zip code
[22:11:28] <Cyprus> you start with a problem, use it to fix it, now you have 2 problems
[22:12:11] <crutchy> my scrape scripts were just a bit of wackery hackery to make the bot do something that seemed slightly useful :p
[22:13:14] <crutchy> i made up the initial define script one night while xlefay was berating me for scraping :D
[22:13:33] <Cyprus> where is xlefay anyway? haven't seen him in forever
[22:13:33] <ciri> have you tried google? Cyprus
[22:13:45] <crutchy> omg! xlefay is google!
[22:13:48] <Cyprus> ciri: huh?
[22:14:07] <Cyprus> oh
[22:14:13] * Cyprus stabs ciri
[22:15:32] <Cyprus> just don't tell the FBI you're in research
[22:15:45] <Cyprus> they may lock you up and accuse you of hacking an airplane
[22:16:10] <crutchy> i get the impression that paranoia within the mighty US government is reaching an all time high
[22:16:27] <Cyprus> i think it's less parinoia in their case and more jackbooted thug
[22:16:35] <crutchy> well that too eh
[22:16:53] <crutchy> eventually there might actually be a "Toilet Safety Administration" like on south park
[22:16:56] <Cyprus> just think if the ATF ever gets jurisdiction over cyber anything
[22:17:59] <crutchy> they'll think that people are moving drugs through the sewers, so they'll put inspectors to check inside yo ass hole before you take a dump to make sure you don't have any drugs
[22:18:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms" should be a convenience store, not a government department.
[22:18:19] <Cyprus> nah, it should be a section of WalMart
[22:18:25] <crutchy> isn't that what seven-eleven is?
[22:18:58] <crutchy> i guess they sell tampons too, so they're disqualified
[22:19:11] <Cyprus> "silencers"
[22:19:16] <crutchy> lol
[22:19:17] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[22:19:28] * Cyprus stabs ciri repeatedly
[22:19:51] <Cyprus> do we really need an annoyabot?
[22:19:53] <mechanicjay> I haven't seen xlefay in some time either -- I acutually sent him an email a couple days ago asking how he's been, but no response ;(
[22:20:06] <Cyprus> I haven't seen him in months
[22:20:10] <mechanicjay> I was becoming quite fond of him
[22:20:19] <crutchy> ~last nick=xlefay channel=
[22:20:21] <mechanicjay> his bouncer is still in this room
[22:20:34] <exec> 03[2014-09-02 08:17:3] # <xlefay> Morning actually but thanks x'D, Take care man.
[22:20:47] <Cyprus> yeah, months
[22:20:51] <mechanicjay> september? so sad.
[22:20:55] <Cyprus> :/
[22:21:07] <crutchy> maybe he was scraping google too much :P
[22:21:19] <Cyprus> I don't think there are death squads
[22:21:33] <Cyprus> although if he couldn't solve the captcha....
[22:22:02] <crutchy> they might have "removed" him from their search index
[22:22:36] <SirFinkus> yay, new bag came
[22:22:43] <Cyprus> quoth the raven: 404
[22:22:53] <SirFinkus> not quite as nice as my old one, but it's "svelte"
[22:22:57] <crutchy> how often do you get a new girlfriend SirFinkus?
[22:23:20] <SirFinkus> that's not very nice crutchy
[22:23:31] * SirFinkus is sad now, despite his new backpack
[22:23:39] <crutchy> we all have bags, but mine is a bit crusty
[22:23:53] <Cyprus> stop wiping with it?
[22:24:06] <crutchy> she wipes her own
[22:24:18] <SirFinkus> that's no fun
[22:24:18] <crutchy> well, i think she does :/
[22:24:30] <crutchy> maybe that's why she's a bit crusty
[22:24:38] <Cyprus> that went dark quickly
[22:24:47] <crutchy> haha
[22:24:56] <SirFinkus> like her white underwear
[22:25:00] <crutchy> i better be off to workipoos anyway
[22:25:06] <crutchy> haf fun
[22:25:13] <Cyprus> im about off work and can't wait
[22:25:31] * SirFinkus is considering taking another ride to test his backpack
[22:26:35] <mechanicjay> it's a beautiful day
[22:26:50] <Cyprus> kind of dreary here
[22:29:25] * SirFinkus only did 15 miles
[22:33:01] <paulej72> I just went for a ride. my first in about a year. need to get back into shape
[22:33:18] <paulej72> only did 4.3 miles.
[22:34:39] <SirFinkus> yeah, I'm still getting back into the swing of things now that the weather is nicer
[22:35:03] <SirFinkus> really though, only the first mile is tough
[22:35:24] <paulej72> I think I only did one or two last year. spent too much time here coding
[22:35:50] <SirFinkus> I don't ride for fun, only transportation
[22:36:01] <SirFinkus> I'll probably rack up 1k in a year
[22:36:44] <paulej72> i did 1k two years ago, but did not get bac into it last year
[22:36:51] <mechanicjay> SirFinkus: same here, been commuting to/from work on the bike the last 7 weeks or so, after 15 years off a bike.
[22:37:02] <paulej72> I could ride to work, but I don,
[22:37:11] <SirFinkus> I'd highly recommend it
[22:37:20] <SirFinkus> it's a nice way to unwind
[22:37:20] <Cyprus> the only riding to work i do is the bus seat
[22:37:36] <paulej72> don't like worrying about the traffic, I would rather walk
[22:37:51] <SirFinkus> oh, well, if traffic is a problem, I can understand that
[22:38:07] <SirFinkus> we have awesome bike paths, so I very rarely have to worry about it
[22:38:10] <paulej72> I only live about a mile from work
[22:38:12] <mechanicjay> The only reason I'm doing it is because there's a bike trail that runs directly between my house and work
[22:38:39] <Cyprus> a lot of my coworkers bike, but I'm like an hour away by traffic, theres no way I'm biking that
[22:38:44] <mechanicjay> Now that i'm more confident on the bike, I've ventured out onto the open road a few times, still kinda scary, but folks around here are far more tolerant of sharing the road than they were in NJ
[22:39:49] <SirFinkus> people here are almost too nice
[22:40:13] <paulej72> I don't mind most of the town traffic, but crossing the main drag in the morning on a bike is a bit more than I like. plus I am a bit sweaty when I get there
[22:40:28] <SirFinkus> 1 mile, that's walking distance
[22:40:32] <mechanicjay> lol, I've actually yelled at cars to go because they have the right of way, while I'm at a stop sign and they're holding up traffic.
[22:40:41] <SirFinkus> don't even need to be a bike
[22:40:53] <paulej72> yep, I need to get off mu but and start walking again
[22:41:30] <SirFinkus> same here mechanicjay, like if I'm at a 4 way stop with nobody behind me making a right turn and the person to my left with a bunch of cars behind him gives me the wave
[22:41:43] <SirFinkus> I'd rather he just go, and I'd let all the cars behind him go too
[22:41:55] <SirFinkus> that way I don't have to worry about anybody behind me or holding anyone up
[22:43:03] <paulej72> the streets I normally run hav little traffic and most of the intersections have good sight lines
[22:44:40] <paulej72> but it is moderately hilly here so I get a good workout in little mileage. when I ride at the shore I can do 50% more miles
[22:45:09] <SirFinkus> last ride I had a 105ft elevation gain over 7 miles, not a big deal lol
[22:45:39] <SirFinkus> had to hump over some freeway overpasses
[22:45:42] <SirFinkus> that was the worst of it
[22:45:57] <mechanicjay> my ride is pretty darn flat, except for the 300ft elevation drop the 1/2 mile from my house to the trail
[22:46:10] <mechanicjay> which is great way to start off your ride, kinda of a killer at the end of the day though
[22:46:43] <paulej72> I did check out the max elevation change on one of my routes, but I can't remember it
[22:46:46] <SirFinkus> I have to deal with one big hill if I go downtown
[22:46:57] <SirFinkus> on the way back (of course)
[22:47:07] <SirFinkus> but once I'm down, it's all flat
[22:47:26] <paulej72> so downtown is uptown
[22:47:33] <SirFinkus> I can go around it a bit if I take the bike path, which is a bit of a longer pedal
[22:47:37] <SirFinkus> no, it's downtown
[22:47:41] <SirFinkus> I live uptown
[22:47:54] <SirFinkus> going 35 down the hill is fun
[22:48:27] <SirFinkus> easily passing the cars
[22:49:22] <paulej72> we have a bike path along the old Delaware and Ritan canal here. it is flat, but the path has not gotten much love lately. lots of big potholes
[22:49:38] <SirFinkus> the problem here is the blackberry bushes
[22:49:41] <SirFinkus> not a huge deal though
[22:49:54] <SirFinkus> they'll fuck your tires if you aren't paying attention
[22:49:58] <paulej72> of course the last time I went was after a rain and everything was a muddy mess
[22:50:40] <paulej72> wait till the berrys are ripe and bring a bag to fill
[22:50:51] <SirFinkus> I think they spray them
[22:51:07] <paulej72> that is foul
[22:51:20] <SirFinkus> fuck em, they're a blight
[22:51:27] <paulej72> blackberry pies are the best
[22:53:05] <paulej72> get some Kevlar tires
[22:54:10] <SirFinkus> "Kots Kaal Pato isn't actually that different from the Mexican tradition of piñatas, only instead of filling colorful paper-mache figures with candy, people fill them them with live animals—or vermin, as they're called—that the town's children have rustled up. For the most part that means iguanas, but the game's most sought-after stuffing is an endangered marsupial called an opossum."
[22:54:23] <SirFinkus> lol opossums
[22:54:24] <ciri> hehehe
[22:54:42] <SirFinkus> blackberry thorn will go through about anything
[22:55:02] <SirFinkus> easy to avoid though if you pay attention
[22:55:07] * SirFinkus needs new tires though
[22:55:35] <paulej72> endangered. fuck possums. even creapier thsn rats
[22:56:00] <SirFinkus> based on the number I see on the side of the road, they're thriving
[22:57:06] <paulej72> i have fenders on my bike so i did not realize how much mu ties were worn. did git new ones thoug befor i has a issue
[22:58:35] <SirFinkus> probably don't need them yet, but it's on my "pay attention to" list
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