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[00:00:45] <BadCoderFinger> Doing good. One day closer to beer day!
[00:13:02] <BadCoderFinger> Gotta learn verilog. Hrmph.
[00:13:30] <juggs> Always something new to learn it seems :/
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[00:40:07] <juggs> shhh it's here!
[00:40:37] <SpallsHurgenson> damn, and it was just getting sane again
[00:40:50] <SpallsHurgenson> well, that's it; I'm outta here. tell me when its gone
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[00:42:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Comcast Servicing Emerging Legion of Broadband Customers - http://sylnt.us - this-merger-was-cheap-and-easy
[00:42:56] <BadCoderFinger> It'll be fun to learn verilog. I have an FPGA dev kit.
[00:43:07] <BadCoderFinger> But it's windows only, which annoys me greatly.
[00:43:18] <SpallsHurgenson> whenever I hear the word "servicing" I think of what a stallion does to a mare
[00:43:57] <BadCoderFinger> Dude, you really only seem to get one thing off the internet. I hope you discover something better on there someday.
[00:45:15] <SpallsHurgenson> I would if I could ever find anything BUT that one thing. But its everywhere.
[00:45:26] <juggs> Is it contagious?
[00:45:54] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, porn seems contagious.
[00:47:58] <SpallsHurgenson> the internet is the world's pre-eminent pornography distribution network, designed to ensure our soldiers have enough wanking material even in the event of a nuclear war!
[00:50:49] <SpallsHurgenson> in the 70s, the Russians were experimenting with mail-order brides and government sponsored sex-workers in order to ensure the fitness of their fighting men; not to fall in the "sexy gap", US boffins worked hard on an electronic distribution method that would satisfy the troops without risking female personnel!
[00:51:00] <SpallsHurgenson> it's all true; I read it on the internet!
[00:51:51] <SpallsHurgenson> (erp, brb afk and other TLAs)
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[01:29:16] * SpallsHurgenson returns from a heroic and exciting ice-cream run
[01:31:23] <BadCoderFinger> With car crashes?
[01:32:13] <SpallsHurgenson> shhh, don't spoil it before it airs on CNN!
[01:35:08] <SpallsHurgenson> I would, however, like to take this opportunity to bitch about that self-important putz in the stretch-limo who had his praetorian guard of six motorcycle cops stop the traffic at a busy intersection just so he could whiz through a red light. Elitist prick.
[01:35:43] <swiss> i'd like to point out that motorcycles might not be the most effective medium for stopping a moving vehicle
[01:36:06] <SpallsHurgenson> if you're not being shot at or bleeding to death you stop at a red light, I don't care who you are or what position you hold in government
[01:36:16] <BadCoderFinger> I'd have to agree.
[01:37:50] <SpallsHurgenson> politicos at least used to PRETEND to honor the egalatarian philosophies of this country... now they ignore it completely and act as if they were royalty
[01:42:02] <juggs> REVOLUTION!
[01:42:51] <SpallsHurgenson> they'll be the first against the wall!
[01:44:02] <juggs> Only once people can wrench themselves away from Game of Thrones or whatever other bilge is being fed to them from the omni-screen.
[01:44:19] <BadCoderFinger> Who are we (mere plebs) to question those in limos?
[01:44:20] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, is Game of Thrones on tonight?
[01:44:32] <juggs> Oh my - I have become "That Guy" :(
[01:45:04] <BadCoderFinger> Critical of mass media guy? Yeah, but aren't we all that guy.
[01:45:44] <juggs> I guess the clue to the answer is in the "mass".
[01:46:49] * SpallsHurgenson watches old "Sports Night" episodes
[01:51:34] <juggs> Is there any side bewb?
[01:53:28] <BadCoderFinger> There's a certain irony in a guy named "juggs" asking about boobs.
[01:54:22] <juggs> Re you sure I'm a guy?
[01:54:30] <SpallsHurgenson> this is IRC
[01:54:38] <juggs> damn
[01:55:30] <BadCoderFinger> Making an educated guess, heh
[01:58:48] <juggs> My brief appearance on NCommander's twitch stream via skype would probably give the impression I'm a guy too... but what if I had a voice changer? Nothing is ever as it seems... unless it is. Deep huh! :D
[02:00:16] <SpallsHurgenson> plus, you know, CGI! We don't always see what we see
[02:00:17] <BadCoderFinger> Raw percentages would favor any random IRC nick being male.
[02:00:26] <chromas> You're either a guy or a girl trapped in a guy's body which is the same thing
[02:02:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I think jugg is just a super-sophisticated IRC chatbot
[02:03:57] <BadCoderFinger> We should submit him to the Turing test!
[02:05:16] <BadCoderFinger> What is your favorite color? What is the thrust to weight ratio of an unladen swallow?
[02:06:35] <juggs> Why would I turn a tortoise upside down in the middle of a desert?
[02:06:47] <juggs> Oh wait wrong question.
[02:07:19] <juggs> African or European swallow?
[02:07:51] <juggs> Elderberries!
[02:08:21] <juggs> It's only a rabbit!
[02:08:26] <SpallsHurgenson> well, he has the requisite Nerd Mark 3 Monty Python reference database installed
[02:08:37] * juggs bleeps
[02:08:51] <BadCoderFinger> (Nice Voight-Kompf reference!)
[02:10:04] <Bytram> g'day, all!
[02:10:06] <Bytram> ~uid
[02:10:08] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5241, owned by Empyrean
[02:10:16] <Bytram> !uid
[02:10:17] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5241, owned by Empyrean
[02:10:24] <Bytram> well, at least they agree!
[02:10:28] <Bytram> coffee++
[02:10:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1351
[02:10:36] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[02:10:37] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 62°F, partly cloudy, wind SW at 16 mph, humidity 31% - Wednesday clear (54°F-73°F), Thursday sunny (57°F-81°F), Friday mostly sunny (52°F-71°F), Saturday partly cloudy (63°F-78°F)
[02:10:40] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[02:10:41] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 57°F, clear, wind SW at 1 mph, humidity 47% - Wednesday clear (52°F-71°F), Thursday mostly sunny (48°F-78°F), Friday partly cloudy (44°F-55°F), Saturday partly cloudy (56°F-64°F)
[02:10:45] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, me
[02:10:46] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 54°F, clear, wind NW at 6 mph, humidity 37% - Wednesday partly cloudy (41°F-63°F), Thursday partly cloudy (37°F-64°F), Friday scattered showers (41°F-53°F), Saturday scattered thunderstorms (54°F-73°F)
[02:11:40] <juggs> Did you have more questions for me BadCoderFinger?
[02:13:14] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, nope. Answering a Monty Python question strongly indicates that you're a human, and strongly indicates male.
[02:13:28] <CoolHand> ~weather Indianapolis, IN
[02:13:30] <exec> 03Indianapolis, IN, USA - currently 74°F / 23°C, clear, wind SE at 3 mph, humidity 45% - Wednesday clear (60°F-87°F / 16°C-31°C), Thursday mostly sunny (62°F-87°F / 17°C-31°C), Friday scattered thunderstorms (65°F-87°F / 18°C-31°C), Saturday thunderstorm (65°F-87°F / 18°C-31°C)
[02:15:44] * juggs heads on out to find Pris
[02:22:36] <BadCoderFinger> Careful dude. It says "Pleasure Model" on the label, but I think she runs windows, and probably has a virus.
[02:28:38] <Bytram> http://www.forbes.com
[02:28:39] <dogpipe> ^ 03New Scientific Study Shows That Playing Action Video Games Is Good For You
[02:29:04] <SpallsHurgenson> yes! back to GTA5!
[02:29:13] * BadCoderFinger fires up Pioneer.
[02:30:30] * Bytram is too tired to remember if that is the one that has/is-about-to leave our solar system?
[02:31:06] <Bytram> but I *am* certain it was the name of a line of audio equipment
[02:31:20] <Bytram> turn it up 10 11!
[02:31:26] <Bytram> s/10/to/
[02:31:27] <sedctl> <Bytram> turn it up to 11!
[02:31:39] <SpallsHurgenson> Pioneer and Voyager have left our solar system like three times each :)
[02:31:50] <BadCoderFinger> Pioneer is an Elite like game, fly around, shoot pirates, trade cargo, that sort of thing.
[02:31:58] <Bytram> k
[02:32:07] <Bytram> never played it.
[02:32:28] <SpallsHurgenson> they based the Wing Commander Privateer remake on it I think
[02:32:29] <Bytram> time for me to get some zzzzzz's
[02:32:31] <BadCoderFinger> It's fun, if you want Elite with modern (ish) graphics.
[02:32:51] <BadCoderFinger> Night Bytram!
[02:33:09] * Bytram hasn't gamed in a long time -- fingers/arms too tired from all those years of typing
[02:33:19] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: and a very good night to you, as well!
[02:33:28] <BadCoderFinger> I played Elite II on the Amiga 500, so sometimes I get nostalgic.
[02:33:34] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: and a cheerful g'night to you, too!
[02:34:30] <SpallsHurgenson> no, night is scary! thats when the monsters come!
[02:35:18] <BadCoderFinger> Eh, just install some grow lights. On the plus side, you'll tan nicely.
[02:37:02] <SpallsHurgenson> won't that just attract the boogiemen?
[02:37:30] <BadCoderFinger> No, they hate grow lights. You might attract potheads, though.
[02:39:11] * SpallsHurgenson jots down this useful note
[02:39:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> potheads are unlike deer, pass up the males and take the females.
[02:40:22] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:43:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Teases x86 Improvements, High Bandwidth Memory GPUs - http://sylnt.us - making-a-comeback
[02:50:58] <BadCoderFinger> I hope AMD doesn't die. Intel will sit on their heels again if they do.
[02:55:00] <chromas> maybe nvidia should make a cpu
[02:55:32] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't think AMD is a real threat to Intel anymore. They're more worried by ARM
[02:55:38] <BadCoderFinger> Don't they already do an 8 core ARM?
[02:57:28] <juggs> BadCoderFinger, I'll take the risk with Pris I think. There's worse ways to go after all. Pishing my last, gaga to the world, in some god-forsaken old folks' home in the elbow of nowhere is not my idea of a dignified end. Crushed to death by a "pleasure model" in flagrante while still compos mentis? As long as it is swift - seems favourable to me. Reminds me, I really should get round to writing a will.
[02:59:12] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, I'd prefer not to rot away as well.
[03:03:28] <juggs> I'd quite like to be composted once expired. I just don't want to end up composting whilst alive. I'd also like to live 100k years to see what becomes of this place, but not as a rotting vegetable. That would play havoc on world population and sustainability, if people lived to 100k years.... OK I'll take being ethereal and floating about watching on once my mortal meat sack kicks the bucket :D
[03:05:45] <BadCoderFinger> I'd like to see where humanity is a thousand years from now. We're only about 60 years from landing on the moon. If we manage not to screw up everything, we should be pretty far along.
[03:06:50] <SpallsHurgenson> wait... is it 1909 again?
[03:07:33] <BadCoderFinger> I meant "ahead of"
[03:07:47] <juggs> I fear petty infighting will stand in the way of progress as it always has thus far. People and their sky fairies yada yada. ~sigh~
[03:07:59] <BadCoderFinger> No kidding.
[03:08:23] <chromas> hey, if trillions of people living forever was good enough for geezus…
[03:08:26] * chromas initiates slapfight
[03:08:51] <BadCoderFinger> I liked the new Cosmos. It showed a lot of insights from the Arabs. But it didn't show how they basically regressed after the rise of Islam.
[03:09:16] <SpallsHurgenson> you just wait until the Rapture comes, then we'll see who has the last laugh!
[03:09:30] <BadCoderFinger> It did at least bash Christianity for pooping on science.
[03:10:05] <SpallsHurgenson> which is about as stupid as ignoring Islam's contributions
[03:10:35] <BadCoderFinger> And what are those contributions?
[03:11:59] <BadCoderFinger> I mean that, really, if there are any, I'd like to know what they are.
[03:14:08] <SpallsHurgenson> math and alchemy (the latter which is the root of chemistry) are two major areas. astronomy optics and biology are other areas often cited
[03:14:11] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, you think Islam is one flavoured religion? It comes in many distinct flavours as does Christianity. BadCoderFinger, you probably need to gen up on Persia.
[03:14:22] <BadCoderFinger> Didn't those predate Islam?
[03:15:11] <SpallsHurgenson> no, you misunderstand: I am saying that it is wrong to as wrong to bash christianity and praise islam as it is to do the opposite
[03:15:27] <SpallsHurgenson> both contributed (and held back) science
[03:15:51] <BadCoderFinger> I kinda bash both for holding back thinking.
[03:15:53] <SpallsHurgenson> praise the damn people who did the work and forget about which god they worshipped or where they happened to live
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[03:17:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I seriously need another monitor on this computer. three isn't cutting it
[03:17:20] <BadCoderFinger> My favorite astronomer was Kepler, who was rather devout.
[03:18:22] <juggs> ~sigh~ The religion is not important. Preservation of knowledge is. Religion should not be wielded as a weapon.
[03:18:35] <BadCoderFinger> Definitely.
[03:19:32] <SpallsHurgenson> its not religion. It's short-sighted self-interest. Gets us all the time
[03:20:30] <BadCoderFinger> One of the most egregious wasn't based on a Religion. Caesar burning the library at Alexandria in about 40 BCE.
[03:22:45] <SpallsHurgenson> although IIRC that was sort of accidental :)
[03:23:03] * SpallsHurgenson wikis it
[03:26:19] <BadCoderFinger> Well, don't keep us in suspense!
[03:27:11] <SpallsHurgenson> see that's what happens if you store all your data on flamable paper. That's why I keep my data in digital format safely locked up in containers made of what is essentially a petroleum-based polymer :)
[03:27:13] <juggs> It's kinda why we try to have separation of state and religion in so called "modern" society. Scandinavia seems to be leading the charge on that front. The Brit ex-empire / colonies, are luddite in comparison.
[03:27:36] <BadCoderFinger> Heh.
[03:27:56] <BadCoderFinger> Spalls: Stone tablets!
[03:29:03] <BadCoderFinger> I have no problem with people believing what they want to believe. When it tries to contradict reality, then I get irritated. My favorite example is Galileo's recant and house arrest.
[03:29:32] <juggs> Yeh - where did those tablets go again? Didn't some bloke find them behind a bush or something? Given their importance you might be forgiven for thinking they still exist in some museum or other,
[03:30:47] <BadCoderFinger> The ten commandment tablets are supposedly kept in the ark of the covenant. Some wack-a-doos think the ark ended up in a temple in Ethiopia.
[03:31:02] <BadCoderFinger> Which no one is allowed to see, of course.
[03:32:15] <BadCoderFinger> And every few years somebody finds a new Noah's ark.
[03:32:24] <SpallsHurgenson> Galileo was arrested because of politics, not because of a conflict of science and religion. that was just a pretext. He ridiculed the pope. That's like teasing a mafia don :)
[03:32:53] <BadCoderFinger> Well, there is that.
[03:33:15] <juggs> Oh wait - the concrete Acropolis is still standing, but the divine stone tablets are nowhere to be found. I'm sorry but I call BS on this religious crap. Spiritualism I can understand, but religion? Hell no, effing shell game if ever I saw one and I don't care which "prophet" you believe.
[03:33:30] <BadCoderFinger> Basically, Pope Innocent VIII made sure I would never be a catholic.
[03:34:24] <BadCoderFinger> Now his death predated the doctrine of papal infallibility, but it was quietly accepted nonetheless. And good old Innocent VIII died surrounded by his mistress and children.
[03:35:53] <juggs> So much for marital fidelity then :)
[03:36:05] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, and the vow of celibacy.
[03:36:31] <SpallsHurgenson> Italian politics were brutal back then. Looking weak could literally be fatal. I'm not sure he really had any choice at that point but to make a lesson of GG
[03:36:38] <BadCoderFinger> You would think the one person chosen to be god's divine instrument on earth could manage to avoid that kind of sin.
[03:38:09] <BadCoderFinger> Politics are brutal in most periods of history, heh.
[03:38:09] <juggs> As nasty / repulsive as Henry VIII was - I don't think kicking RC of the island was a bad move. (Sorry Ireland).
[03:39:24] <SpallsHurgenson> Ireland remained RC /because/ England wasn't. It was a defense mechanism :)
[03:39:27] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, Henry VIII, gotta love a guy that starts a religion for want of a divorce.
[03:41:33] <juggs> Ermmmagurd, I entered a religious debate *ON THE INTERWEBS* - I should back away carefully and sleep 'til it goes away.
[03:41:44] <SpallsHurgenson> indeed!
[03:41:55] <SpallsHurgenson> let us instead discuss how vim is better than emacs
[03:41:57] <juggs> Buddhist!
[03:42:01] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:42:40] <BadCoderFinger> It's hardly a debate when we're almost completely in agreement.
[03:42:50] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, we are?
[03:42:55] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, emacs is better than vim!
[03:43:09] <BadCoderFinger> Well, other than that, heh!
[03:43:58] <SpallsHurgenson> or wait... notepad! Windows Notepad is the one true editor!
[03:44:09] <BadCoderFinger> And on that note, sadly, I must get some sleep. Night guys!
[03:44:32] <juggs> My tortured dreams are more tempting than a debate about text editors. Use what suite mm'kay.
[03:44:58] <juggs> Night BadCoderFinger
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[04:53:42] <SirFinkus> fucking jury duty AGAIN
[04:53:51] <SirFinkus> I've had it like 4 times in the past 5 years
[04:54:32] <chromas> well now that you've announced it, who'se gonna believe you when you toss the invite and say you never got it?
[04:55:23] <SirFinkus> I have to do my CIVIC DUTY though
[04:55:55] <chromas> just say you know how computers and guns work and they'll toss you
[04:57:33] <SirFinkus> I was thinking of declaring that the court has no power over me as a sovereign citizen
[05:15:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Infinite Library (Well, Almost) - http://sylnt.us - infinite-monkeys
[05:18:18] <chromas> from the internet dept
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[07:17:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Number Glitch That Can Lead to Catastrophe - http://sylnt.us - not-as-promoted-as-y2k-bug
[07:24:20] <crutchy> SirFinkus, you need to move to an area full of rich white people that never go to court (except to sue each other)
[07:24:44] <SirFinkus> I kind of do live in that kind of area...
[07:25:27] <crutchy> maybe they're still prosecuting the few remaining minorities
[07:25:55] <crutchy> persecution takes time after all
[07:27:18] <chromas> or they just haven't invaded yet
[07:27:50] <crutchy> does SirFinkus live in iran?
[07:28:04] <SirFinkus> yup
[07:28:05] <crutchy> oh we talking about invasion by minorities
[07:28:17] <chromas> the hipster brigade keeps them out
[07:28:29] <SirFinkus> bbiab
[07:29:00] <SirFinkus> btw, the online registration they had me do where I put in my number said specifically not to press submit more than onces
[07:29:08] <SirFinkus> I pressed it 3 times #fightthepower
[07:29:22] <crutchy> the CIA might be coming for dinner
[07:29:24] <SirFinkus> I hope this means they need to process the rest of them manually
[07:29:47] <SirFinkus> and reboot their VAX or whatever they're running that pos webapp on
[07:30:10] <chromas> the server is an ipad. i seen it
[07:30:17] <crutchy> i got out of jury duty last time by telling the judge i had a 4 year old daughter
[07:31:04] <crutchy> i'm not sure if that's a universal skeleton get-out-of-jury-duty key
[07:31:46] <crutchy> works for get-out-of-jury-duty-for-fucked-up-child-sex-offense-case key though
[07:34:13] <crutchy> maybe just tell the judge that your a racist sexist chauvinist misogynistic leader of the tea party. that should pretty much get you out of any case
[07:35:31] <crutchy> oh. i forgot homophobic
[07:37:08] <chromas> the gnaa
[07:39:35] <SirFinkus> [21:57:33] <SirFinkus> I was thinking of declaring that the court has no power over me as a sovereign citizen
[07:39:37] <SirFinkus> my plan
[07:41:18] <SirFinkus> they need to send these in less scary envelopes, it has OFFICIAL SUMMONS and the name of the court in huge letters, then JURY SUMMONS in small letters
[07:41:23] <SirFinkus> I thought I'd been caught
[07:41:53] <chromas> nah, "caught" would be kick in your door and shoot your dog, then loot your house
[07:42:11] <SirFinkus> not before crossing the moat
[07:42:20] <SirFinkus> and getting past the turrets
[07:44:36] <chromas> the classic answer to the traveling salesman problem
[07:45:22] <crutchy> tourettes are the best defense
[07:46:45] <crutchy> "Tuesday, 4 June 1996 will forever be remembered as a dark day for the European Space Agency (Esa)"
[07:46:55] <crutchy> s/Esa/ESA/
[07:46:55] <sedctl> <crutchy> "Tuesday, 4 June 1996 will forever be remembered as a dark day for the European Space Agency (ESA)"
[07:48:56] <SirFinkus> Thursday, 5 June, 2015 will be forever remembered as a dark day for the poor motherfucker who's jury I'm on
[07:49:03] <SirFinkus> *4
[07:49:05] <SirFinkus> motherfucker
[07:50:38] <crutchy> you should develop a sudden case of tourettes syndrome in the courtroom
[07:51:11] <crutchy> all the politically-correct legal people won't know what to do
[07:51:22] <chromas> "contempt"
[07:51:29] <SirFinkus> was just about to say that
[07:51:48] <crutchy> 'but you can't discriminate bacuse of my condition... FUCKER!'
[07:52:13] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[07:52:14] <dogpipe> ^ 03Sovereign Citizen Get Tased Trying To Enter Courtroom - YouTube
[07:52:18] <SirFinkus> my last trip to the courthouse
[07:53:17] <chromas> Category: Sports
[07:54:07] <crutchy> i predict the USA is going to be a very scary place in a few years
[07:54:12] <SirFinkus> the motion stabilization on these videos instantly gives me motion sickness
[07:54:25] <chromas> makes it seem like slow-motion
[07:54:30] <SirFinkus> it's already scary, but that's only because I'm paying attention
[07:54:53] <crutchy> i mean ukraine-level scary
[07:56:35] <SirFinkus> we're just ramping up to East Germany scary right now, we've surpassed it in some respects
[07:57:55] <chromas> "Saying you're a sovereign citizen and therefore the laws don't apply to you is the functional equivalent of Homer Simpson exclaiming, "If I can't hear you, it's not illegal!" "
[08:18:56] <arti> smile citizen
[08:51:53] <SirFinkus> stupid 1 month shipping times, super annoying
[09:49:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Weev Demonstrates Trolling Women and People of Color Via Promoted Tweets - http://sylnt.us - new-platform-trolling
[09:55:34] <chromas> Feministing
[09:57:15] <SirFinkus> god dammit, used [quote] of <quote> now I look a fool
[09:59:49] * chromas reloads just to see said ostensible foolishness
[10:11:39] <SirFinkus> $100 this AC is this mikeeusa
[10:11:49] <SirFinkus> it just has to be right?
[10:14:55] <crutchy> or hostsRcool94
[10:18:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:18:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1352
[10:18:48] <crutchy> ++coffee
[10:18:48] <dogpipe> Karma - coffee: 260
[10:18:48] <crutchy> coffee++
[10:18:48] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1353
[10:19:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, yo
[10:19:13] * crutchy is working on the second part to the slash test script
[10:19:33] <crutchy> (scraping result and comparing to test file)
[10:20:05] <crutchy> tmb, do you know what the mininum delay is between comment posting?
[10:20:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> um, like 10 or 15 seconds
[10:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> between reskey and posting
[10:20:59] <crutchy> what about for multiple comment posts?
[10:21:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> no delay between posting and getting a new reskey
[10:21:17] <crutchy> mkay. i'll give it a shot
[10:44:36] <crutchy> ooh found a nice test example
[10:45:08] <crutchy> no doubt will fail initially, but that's just cos i'm not familiar with how slash treats garbage input
[10:45:51] <crutchy> that's also assuming my posting code even works properly :/
[10:52:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, luck to yas. bouncing the server right now though
[10:57:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, done bouncing the server around for the morning unless someone gives me more bugs.
[10:59:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno why but my brain works a fuckload better for code for like the first 5 hours i'm awake.
[10:59:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[11:01:34] <crutchy> not sure ima gunna be able to use xml format test files
[11:02:05] <crutchy> hmm
[11:02:09] * crutchy tries something
[11:06:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> why the hell would you do that?!
[11:06:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, friends don't let friends use xml
[11:07:19] <crutchy> i dunno. Bytram mentioned it
[11:07:35] <crutchy> i don't really give a rats as long as i can code it
[11:07:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you already got json parsing working, no? use it.
[11:07:59] <crutchy> it could be in binary for all i care :D
[11:08:25] <crutchy> json? oh yeah there's built in php functions for that too
[11:08:33] <crutchy> json can be a bit messy with complex data
[11:08:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> not as messy as xml
[11:09:00] <crutchy> possibly. i'm a bit new to xml
[11:09:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> xml has more characters that need escaped fer starters
[11:09:57] <crutchy> these first couple of tests will break it if its not viable
[11:10:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good. you're your own bytram
[11:10:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... fishing looks to be outstanding this afternoon. no question where i'll be.
[11:24:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> brits are voting today looks like. it's clogging up my twitter feed.
[11:25:37] <crutchy> aw fuck. /me is learning a little about the output of php's xml parser. it's nasty
[11:26:01] <crutchy> dunno if i wanna go down that path
[11:26:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> hur hur hur
[11:26:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i did warn you
[11:26:57] <crutchy> i didn't mind looking into it
[11:27:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> you = masochist
[11:27:17] <chromas> Bender: grab crutchy
[11:27:17] <Bender> Added quote 510
[11:27:17] <crutchy> but i think its gunna be prone to fucking up
[11:27:28] <chromas> Too bad I missed one
[11:28:06] <crutchy> looks like i'm gunna be making up my own little k.i.s.s. format
[11:28:18] <crutchy> INI++
[11:28:18] <Bender> karma - ini: 1
[11:28:25] <chromas> No json?
[11:28:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, can't decide if i should do more api work today or go to the parade
[11:28:47] <chromas> (said in a French accent)
[11:28:56] <crutchy> json might work, but i've heard nasty things about it oo
[11:28:59] <crutchy> *too
[11:29:08] <chromas> parades--
[11:29:08] <Bender> karma - parades: -1
[11:29:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, json't dirt simple.
[11:29:24] <crutchy> for nasty 'orrible utf8 tests i want the format to be simple and robust
[11:30:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, the api outputs json with nasty 'orrible utf8 all up in its schniz
[11:30:03] <chromas> I think you just need to escape a couple characters and that's it in json
[11:30:28] <crutchy> ~define schniz
[11:30:31] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03Schniz: Vagina
[11:30:34] <crutchy> lol
[11:30:35] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[11:31:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i even made it pretty
[11:31:20] <crutchy> urbandictionary++ # straight to the vagina
[11:31:20] <Bender> karma - urbandictionary: 5
[11:34:15] <FatPhil> Are there "Spam" moderation guidelines anywhere?
[11:34:51] <crutchy> g'day FatPhil
[11:34:58] <crutchy> not that i know of
[11:35:09] <crutchy> we just make shit up as we go around here :D
[11:35:17] <FatPhil> is it? where? pissing down, and the town's full of tourists today
[11:35:31] <crutchy> oh yeah fuck that
[11:35:52] <crutchy> shit weather here too, but you can keep yer damn tourists
[11:35:52] <ciri> ok who farted?
[11:35:53] <FatPhil> and the chimney sweep's cleaning our chimneys today, so it's a bit stinky
[11:36:30] <crutchy> damn. must be pretty bad. i thought farts would have gone up the chimney
[11:38:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, there were some in the original post proposing it
[11:39:01] <FatPhil> FAQ has a "What is Special About the Spam Mod"
[11:39:12] <crutchy> think i worked out a test file format: http://paste.my.to
[11:39:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically it goes like this: 1) proper spam 2) utter nonsense 3) something so off-topic and trollish that it's neither a troll nor off-topic anymore.
[11:39:44] <crutchy> aw no fair. all my posts would be considered spam under 2)
[11:40:08] <chromas> That's why you got the spank
[11:40:17] <FatPhil> It doesn't seem to work against AC's, though
[11:40:31] <chromas> There should be a 👢 boot icon
[11:40:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, 2 covers things like gibberish
[11:40:55] <chromas> More icons and javascripts
[11:41:00] <crutchy> or a 💩 mod
[11:41:30] <crutchy> also is there any guidelines on how long a spamban lasts?
[11:41:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah well, not much you can do to an AC except downmod them so most people don't have to see them.
[11:41:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, one month first time, six the second.
[11:41:49] <FatPhil> I think that mikeeeUSA's basically spam, as he's off-topic, trollish, and *repetitive*.
[11:41:58] <chromas> Use spam assassin
[11:42:06] <crutchy> the FBI?
[11:42:07] <FatPhil> Assuming the AC is mikeeeUSA
[11:42:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, show me. will let ya know.
[11:42:29] <FatPhil> 2 posts on this story already: https://soylentnews.org
[11:42:30] <dogpipe> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:-1, Offtopic)
[11:42:30] <ciri> 3
[11:42:40] <chromas> "too many links in your comment. Go fuck yourself"
[11:43:01] <crutchy> that's not spam i don't think
[11:43:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> the two long ones?
[11:43:22] <FatPhil> yeah, with the almost-identical list of URLs
[11:43:56] <FatPhil> If he posted new content, then I'd say it's not spam, but it's always the same stuff.
[11:44:02] <crutchy> it actually looks kinda interesting
[11:44:19] <crutchy> offtopic for the article maybe, but not spam
[11:44:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> the links are different in both posts, not seeing a spam aspect.
[11:44:34] <crutchy> not like he's flogging vaigra
[11:44:45] <FatPhil> SO you don't see a similarity between http://esr.ibiblio.org and http://esr.ibiblio.org ?
[11:44:45] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03Condemning Censorship, Even of Werewolves
[11:44:45] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03Condemning Censorship, Even of Werewolves
[11:44:53] <crutchy> seems more like a rant
[11:45:01] <JamesNZ> latex++
[11:45:01] <Bender> karma - latex: 11
[11:45:02] <JamesNZ> latex++
[11:45:02] <Bender> karma - latex: 12
[11:45:03] <JamesNZ> latex++
[11:45:03] <Bender> karma - latex: 13
[11:45:20] <crutchy> JamesNZ is spamming us with condom promotion
[11:45:29] <JamesNZ> Slanderer!
[11:45:30] <FatPhil> or http://www.phoronix.com and http://www.phoronix.com ?
[11:45:31] <dogpipe> ^ 03Xonotic-Forked ChaosEsqueAnthology Sees New Release - Page 2
[11:45:34] <chromas> wood++ ones are better
[11:45:34] <Bender> karma - wood: 1
[11:46:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> second one is getting a tad bit spammy but the best you could really go on that one is redundant
[11:46:19] <FatPhil> or http://whatwillweuse.com and http://whatwillweuse.com ?
[11:46:20] <dogpipe> ^ 03Off-topic: Terrorware | What Will We Use?
[11:46:36] <crutchy> he's the SoylentNews APK :D
[11:46:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> because it is really on topic for that story even if in a strange way.
[11:47:13] <FatPhil> or https://webcache.googleusercontent.com and https://webcache.googleusercontent.com ?
[11:47:14] <dogpipe> ^ 03Error 404 (Not Found)!!1
[11:47:19] <crutchy> maybe its just me but i like rants and offtopic stuff
[11:47:37] <crutchy> beats the boring old 'ooh apple this' and 'ooh google that'
[11:47:44] <crutchy> and '
[11:47:52] <crutchy> ooh systemd ate my sammich
[11:48:09] <chromas> Only if you haven't already read his rants to death
[11:48:27] <crutchy> i prolly don't pay enough attention tbh
[11:48:37] <FatPhil> I think those google 404s prove that his posts are prepared spams.
[11:48:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> good example of meeting the criteria for spam: https://soylentnews.org
[11:48:43] <dogpipe> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:-1, Spam)
[11:48:54] <chromas> !fight Mikeeusa vs systemd
[11:48:55] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: systemd beats Mikeeusa by 4,310,000 to 70,800!
[11:49:09] <crutchy> 70,800!
[11:49:12] <crutchy> holy shit
[11:49:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really. he could just suck at linking to google caches.
[11:49:22] <chromas> Well-known turd burglar
[11:49:47] <crutchy> FatPhil, why did you link webcache pages?
[11:49:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nother good example: https://soylentnews.org
[11:49:50] <dogpipe> ^ 03SN comment by [02Ethanol-fueled (2792)] (02Score:0, Spam)
[11:50:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> third: https://soylentnews.org
[11:50:19] <dogpipe> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:-1, Spam)
[11:50:35] <crutchy> lmao
[11:50:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What to Say When the Police Tell You to Stop Filming Them - http://sylnt.us - get-back-to-eating-your-donuts
[11:50:54] <crutchy> that last one should've been modded funny
[11:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, now is he doing this to multiple stories where it really has nothing to do with the subject?
[11:51:00] <crutchy> fucking liberals modded it spam
[11:51:01] <FatPhil> The latter post is clearly a reply to something
[11:51:13] <FatPhil> and here's the original http://fullchan4jtta4sx.onion.city
[11:51:15] <dogpipe> ^ 03/tech/ - DONGLEGATE AFRO LADY IS BACK
[11:51:56] <FatPhil> He will do it to all kinds of stories with a vague OSS bent to them, yes.
[11:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm...
[11:52:37] * chromas wouldn't've considered the ef post spam
[11:52:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> on another story it might be spam but he's pretty on the mark on that one.
[11:53:23] <FatPhil> And the first post is a copy of this:
[11:53:24] <FatPhil> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com
[11:53:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> more satire than proper postage but shurg
[11:53:24] <dogpipe> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | New Bio Re-evaluates the Half-Genius/Half-Jerk Stereotype of Steve Jobs
[11:54:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, okay, now it's spam.
[11:55:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> douche it up all you like but do it with original content each time.
[11:55:49] <FatPhil> Yup, if it was a new rant each time, I'd have been happy with troll/offtopic/flamebait being suitable
[11:56:05] <crutchy> not spam. that highlighting doesn't show anything except that he used 'opensource' a bunch of times
[11:56:16] <FatPhil> -1 disagree
[11:56:29] <crutchy> of course the reply subjects are gunna show up as repetitive
[11:56:43] <crutchy> if that's the case then all the bs ranting about systemd would be considered spam also
[11:56:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> strangely though, right now Troll is a bigger kick in the nuts to ACs than Spam. enough Troll mods will get your ipid banned from posting for a while.
[11:56:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> for ACs that is.
[11:57:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't that right, crutchy?
[11:57:25] <crutchy> systemd this, systemd that... run a systemd comment through the webcache highlighter
[11:58:01] <chromas> " This discussion has been archived; no further changes can be made. # additional debug crap#
[11:58:14] <FatPhil> crutchy - if all you can see is the highlighting, then put down the bong!
[11:58:35] <crutchy> what was the point of the webcache if not the highlighting?
[11:58:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, most of the two posts was word for word. can't say all cause i'm too lazy to check it all.
[11:59:00] <FatPhil> So you could find the line at which to start reading easily
[11:59:13] <FatPhil> Clearly my attempts to help have hindered
[11:59:40] <crutchy> i dunno. so the guy repeated the subject line in his comment. i don't that how that deserves a spamban, but whatever
[11:59:52] <FatPhil> Funnily enough, the earlier one is missing the final line, so it in turn must have been a copy/paste of a prior thing
[11:59:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, that's just crutchy for you. give him a cookie and he'll try to stuff it in a header instead of eat it.
[12:00:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, he repeated the whole post
[12:00:39] <FatPhil> crutchy - what makes you think it's only the subject line that's repeated? Where do I imply that?
[12:00:43] <FatPhil> crutchy--
[12:00:43] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 166
[12:00:57] <crutchy> i'm just looking at one comment
[12:01:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org and https://soylentnews.org
[12:01:02] <dogpipe> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:-1, Offtopic)
[12:01:02] <dogpipe> ^ 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:-1, Troll)
[12:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> subject actually differs. rest of the post is cut n paste
[12:01:55] <crutchy> so he ranted in two separate article threads
[12:02:13] <crutchy> troll maybe, redundant, offtopic, etc, but i still don't see spam
[12:02:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, stop trolling FatPhil =P
[12:02:22] <crutchy> lol
[12:02:22] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[12:02:38] <chromas> If a link to YouTube is spam, I don't wanna be right
[12:02:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, no worries. you were never gonna be right anyway.
[12:03:07] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[12:03:11] <chromas> Whew
[12:03:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> well if you goobers aren't gonna mod that Spam, I will.
[12:03:47] <chromas> We just wanna talk about it
[12:03:58] <crutchy> if we're gunna ban that kinda stuff, we might as well rename ourselves the United Soylents of America and create our own version of the Democratic Party
[12:04:00] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[12:04:39] * chromas just wants to babble on and on without action :)
[12:04:47] <FatPhil> His posts have almost all ended up with -1 scores anyway
[12:05:07] <crutchy> .socialist TheMightyBuzzard
[12:05:08] <exec> 04TheMightyBuzzard, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[12:05:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, i should adjust the "which moderation name should be shown" code so Spam always wins out.
[12:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;socialist crutchy
[12:05:33] <MrPlow> crutchy, you're a socialist!
[12:05:40] <chromas> -1, 👢
[12:06:19] <chromas> .socialist Jesus
[12:06:20] <exec> 04Jesus, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[12:06:20] <FatPhil> well, after my AC adjustment, it shows to me as -1. HE always has some downward moderation too.
[12:06:38] <chromas> .socialist communist
[12:06:38] <exec> 04communist, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[12:06:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, i should check spam mods and mod bombs.
[12:06:52] <FatPhil> .socialist pat yourself on the back if
[12:07:04] <chromas> You broke it
[12:07:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think you broke his regex
[12:07:24] <FatPhil> .socialist Hoorah if
[12:07:45] <JamesNZ> .socialist FatPhil
[12:07:46] <exec> 04FatPhil, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[12:07:55] <chromas> .socialist a\ b
[12:07:55] <FatPhil> took the politicalcompass.org questionaire a few days ago.
[12:07:56] <exec> 04a\ b, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[12:08:05] <chromas> .socialist a b
[12:08:05] <JamesNZ> .socialist Everyone
[12:08:06] <exec> 04a b, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[12:08:06] <exec> 04Everyone, YOU'RE a SOCIALIST!
[12:08:15] <crutchy> i think it might be a nickserv thing
[12:08:17] <FatPhil> still neigbours with Gandhi
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[12:08:32] <crutchy> though its not like i have any idea how the damn thing works anymore :p
[12:08:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, we're good on spam and mod bombs
[12:08:55] <chromas> That's 'cause you're a socialist, crutchy
[12:09:12] * crutchy buries his head in the sand in agreement
[12:09:17] <chromas> Nothing good comes from that. Just look at open source software
[12:09:43] <crutchy> written by socialists
[12:09:58] <chromas> Socialists hate MikeeUSA
[12:10:20] <crutchy> them socialists and their 'open sores'
[12:10:29] <crutchy> hosts++
[12:10:29] <Bender> karma - hosts: -2
[12:10:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i think you just broke my bloody silliness detector by saying that with an OSS irc client on an OSS irc server dedicated to an OSS website.
[12:10:59] <crutchy> i'm ok cos under my ossos i'm running windows xp :D
[12:11:10] <chromas> What if I'm using mirc?
[12:11:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, then ima smack you around with something resembling a trout
[12:11:44] <crutchy> can't be cos your messages aren't rainbowd
[12:11:48] <chromas> I'm not, but for the sake of argument, let's just make shit up 😉
[12:12:07] <crutchy> ~rainbow i'm a mirc fagoot!
[12:12:08] <exec> 00,08i00,09'00,12m00,02 00,06a00,04 00,07m00,08i00,09r00,12c00,02 00,06f00,04a00,07g00,08o00,09o00,12t00,02!
[12:12:09] * TheMightyBuzzard smakes chromas for the halibut
[12:12:40] <chromas> Are you serial?
[12:12:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp, i'm parallel
[12:13:03] <crutchy> i'm toast
[12:13:13] <chromas> Buttered toast!
[12:13:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> drop yourself and see which side lands down
[12:13:29] <crutchy> from flying toasters
[12:13:51] * chromas lands on the round edge
[12:14:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[12:14:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:14:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1354
[12:14:05] <crutchy> oh there's a buttered toast fish in a game on android
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[12:14:43] <crutchy> shit there's a staffs here quick look busy n stuff
[12:14:44] <ciri> i hope you wiped your ass :)
[12:14:54] <crutchy> damn i forgot that
[12:15:02] <chromas> Nah, just an editor ;)
[12:15:52] <crutchy> well, as long as he didn't say jehova
[12:15:58] * crutchy puts down rock
[12:16:15] <chromas> =set .config/prefix 🐔
[12:16:15] <dogpipe> k
[12:16:25] <chromas> 🐔ping
[12:16:31] <chromas> Fpos
[12:18:36] <crutchy> ima pass out. i'll have to start fixing my little xmltastrophe tomorrow
[12:19:13] <chromas> 🐔night
[12:19:21] <chromas> 🌃
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[12:22:52] <janrinok> hi guys
[12:23:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, janrinok
[12:23:44] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: hi tmb - all the household chores done now?
[12:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, never really are.
[12:24:14] <janrinok> ... so it's not a fishing day?
[12:24:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hell yeah it is. sposed to be niiiice fishing this afternoon.
[12:24:37] <janrinok> good to hear
[12:24:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> this morning's sposed to be shit though so i fixed a bug instead.
[12:25:02] <janrinok> not as much fun but maybe more rewarding
[12:25:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i can eat a fish
[12:25:25] <janrinok> very true
[12:26:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> got my apple cider moved over to the 2ndary fermenter last night. bout three weeks left on the elderberry wine and 6-8 weeks left on the cider.
[12:27:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> 11 gallons of booze for a net investment of ~$60
[12:27:43] <janrinok> that is an awful lot of oblivion
[12:28:16] <janrinok> I suppose the elderberry will go well with fish
[12:28:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah. should keep me from being sober in the evenings for quite a while.
[12:28:33] <janrinok> hehe
[12:28:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea. depends on how sweet it ends up being i guess.
[12:29:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> kinda worried the fermentation stuck cause it finished so quickly.
[12:29:20] <janrinok> that's not a good sign
[12:29:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, could have just been really lively yeast. dunno.
[12:30:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a proper brewers' yeast that i haven't used before. mostly i use champagne yeast or before that bread yeast.
[12:31:05] <janrinok> is it all fermenting in one large jar or in mulitple smaller jars?
[12:31:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> one six gallon carboy. will get racked off into bottles, sans dead yeast, after it clears all the way.
[12:32:27] <janrinok> not easy to try to save some then by restarting a jar or two.
[12:33:16] <janrinok> its all or nothing - I'll keep my fingers crossed for it
[12:33:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> half fermented i can live with. just makes it a sweet, low-alcohol wine. which is prolly gonna taste pretty good if not like it was sposed to.
[12:34:10] <janrinok> it would still be a good desert wine, but probably not what you were looking for
[12:34:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> planned on adding a little sugar back in after i stabilize it with some potassium sorbate anyhow. that stuff absolutely begs for a bit of sweetness.
[12:35:12] <janrinok> the cider still looking on target tho?
[12:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, the airlock is bubbling away like a boss.
[12:36:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to be some very hard cider too. 10lbs of sugar on top of the juice. had to add it in stages so it wouldn't be too sweet to ferment.
[12:36:46] <janrinok> you can always console yourself with the cider while rationing out the elderberry in quantities that you can cope with in one session. I can't drink too much sweet wine.
[12:37:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> some of the cider is even destined to become applejack at ~150 proof
[12:37:45] <janrinok> lol - playing with the big boys
[12:38:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's dangerous but delicious.
[12:39:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> so sweet you can drink an assload without tasting the alcohol and not distilled so all the methanol and such is still in it. makes for epic, multi-day hangovers.
[12:39:32] <janrinok> it is early in this season, or late in last, for wine and cider making here. Still need a month or more before we have elderberries, and no more apples until autumn/fall
[12:40:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> here too. i had some elderberry concentrate stored from years past. apple i just bought concentrate. not looking for a fine vintage on the cider, just a daily drinkable beverage.
[12:41:00] <janrinok> ah, OK.
[12:41:58] <janrinok> I have elderberry and peach trees in my garden, and they provide a decent enough crop. People said peaches wouldn't grow this far north, but nobody told the peaches that :)
[12:42:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> the waiting's getting slightly tedious on the elderberry though. i hate waiting for stuff to clear.
[12:42:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[12:42:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've tried making peach wine. it didn't agree with my palate even a little bit.
[12:43:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> elderberry though, man that stuff was fantastic before i added the yeast so i got high hopes.
[12:43:39] <janrinok> it's not something that you would probably want to drink on a regular basis, but the occaisional bottle is OK
[12:43:58] <janrinok> elderberry is good anytime, as long as it is a good wine
[12:44:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i'm not a grape fan so it may be my new proper wine type.
[12:45:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> considering plum wine this year as well. may grab a concentrate and fire off a batch before the local fruits ripen.
[12:45:50] <janrinok> I prefer real ale - I think we chatted about this in the past - but I can cope with wine after 7 years in France
[12:46:06] <janrinok> don't like the hangovers with wine though
[12:47:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, higher badness concentration than beer.
[12:47:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder what black currant would taste like
[12:48:38] <janrinok> very nice - I've had it a few times but I couldn't drink it everyday
[12:49:09] * janrinok probably _could_ drink it everyday but would prefer not to
[12:49:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hell, i need to make some mead as well soon as the bees get busy and bring the price of honey back down.
[12:49:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can drink mead like a bloody viking
[12:49:46] <janrinok> I was just going to suggest using honey
[12:50:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> have and i'm apparently a bloody wizard at it. never tasted a store-bought mead anywhere close to as good as what i make.
[12:51:19] <janrinok> you're making me jealous
[12:51:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm making me thirsty
[12:51:46] <janrinok> its definitely beer time already here, so have a beer on me
[12:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> have to wait for a carboy to finish and honey prices to come down though. all you can get right now are the little bears at rather steep prices.
[12:54:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i may make some sake while i wait on honey to come down in price
[12:57:32] <janrinok> brb 5
[13:03:00] <SirFinkus> ooh, cider talk?
[13:03:08] * SirFinkus spent last weekend in apple country
[13:05:08] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: its downmods in general that get the auto troll ban
[13:05:28] <SirFinkus> I had a good one recently too Schilling cider
[13:05:31] <SirFinkus> it was different
[13:05:40] <SirFinkus> almost tasted like a white wine or something
[13:06:53] <janrinok> hi SirFinkus paulej72
[13:06:53] <ciri> meow janrinok
[13:06:59] <JamesNZ> latex++
[13:06:59] <Bender> karma - latex: 14
[13:06:59] <SirFinkus> morning janrinok
[13:07:10] <JamesNZ> TIKZ IS AMAZING.
[13:07:12] <janrinok> a'noon to you, everything good I hope?
[13:07:19] <janrinok> hi JamesNZ
[13:07:20] <ciri> howdy janrinok
[13:07:31] <JamesNZ> A very early morning to you janrinok :D
[13:07:40] <JamesNZ> 'tis 1AM over here.
[13:07:43] <paulej72> hi janrinok JamesNZ
[13:07:43] <ciri> hello, nice to see yea! paulej72
[13:07:51] <JamesNZ> Hey paulej72 :)
[13:07:55] <JamesNZ> Shut up ciri.
[13:08:03] <janrinok> JamesNZ: you having a late night or working shifts?
[13:08:14] <SirFinkus> no one asked you ciri, fuck off
[13:08:30] <JamesNZ> janrinok: Late night, finishing a math assignment due tomorrow.
[13:08:47] <janrinok> nothing last the last minute for the best assignments
[13:08:54] <janrinok> nothing like*
[13:09:01] <JamesNZ> Indeed \o/
[13:10:47] <JamesNZ> Goodnight y'all \o
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[13:52:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Military Personnel Convicted of $50 Million Worth of Crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan - http://sylnt.us - tip-of-the-iceberg
[15:23:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX's Crew Dragon Pad Abort Test Successful - http://sylnt.us - down-to-earth
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[16:54:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Finland: Torvalds' Homeland is Using Linux to be Productive - http://sylnt.us - favorite-son's-project-embraced
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[17:55:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Federal Court Rules NSA Bulk Data Collection Illegal - http://sylnt.us - yay-for-the-courts
[17:55:54] <chromas> from the criminals-don't-break-laws dept
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[18:44:01] <kadal> yay for the courts!
[18:45:13] <CoolHand> kadal: hey, that was my dept. name..
[19:26:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Type of Memristors Used to Create a Limited Neural Net - http://sylnt.us - neuromorphic-computing-strikes-again
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[19:28:33] <Subsentient> I
[19:28:35] <Subsentient> am
[19:28:41] <Subsentient> b0ned
[19:28:47] <chromas> spartacus
[19:29:29] <Subsentient> http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:30] <dogpipe> ^ 03SN journal So we might be homeless in a couple days. 04(0 comments)
[19:30:59] <Subsentient> I've certainly got the beard to be a hobo.
[19:31:17] <Subsentient> And I'm pretty deranged... hmm maybe I'll fit in just fine...
[19:59:58] <Cyprus> i wish my rent was only $350 a week =/
[20:12:44] <arti> http://i.imgur.com
[20:13:07] <arti> Subsentient: buy panties and then sell them "dirty"
[20:13:12] <arti> craigslist/reddit/other
[20:13:21] <arti> 2) ????
[20:13:23] <arti> 3) profit.
[20:13:49] <arti> tagline for your store: "The Fappiest Place on Earth"
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[20:57:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Climate Change Is Already Hurting The World's Most-Consumed Coffee Bean - http://sylnt.us - don't-mess-with-my-coffee
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[22:06:37] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[22:08:34] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:08:34] <dogpipe> Karma - coffee: 261
[22:08:34] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:08:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1355
[22:13:27] <crutchy> http://www.wsj.com
[22:13:28] <dogpipe> ^ 03NSA Phone Program Is Illegal, Appeals Court Rules - WSJ
[22:13:46] <crutchy> "i'm sorry i can't hear you while i'm tapping your phone"
[22:15:25] <crutchy> "Without commenting on the ruling today, the president has been clear that he believes we should end the Section 215 bulk telephony metadata program as it currently exists by creating an alternative mechanism to preserve the program’s essential capabilities without the government holding the bulk data"
[22:15:53] <crutchy> potus: "i know, let's outsource it to a foreign company/government!"
[22:16:33] <crutchy> they'll prolly just build a new data center at pine gap in australia
[22:16:47] <crutchy> 'the other area 51'
[22:18:01] <BadCoderFinger> Hey crutchy.
[22:18:23] <crutchy> ~gday BadCoderFinger
[22:18:25] * exec abrasively postulates a spoon of Debian towards BadCoderFinger
[22:18:46] <BadCoderFinger> Apparently, Debian is all the rage with the bot, heh.
[22:18:58] <BadCoderFinger> My Freebsd repels your Debian salvo!
[22:19:06] <crutchy> maybe i need to assign weightings to different values
[22:19:33] <BadCoderFinger> Just put in a special case of "BadCoderFinger" == "FreeBSD"
[22:19:39] <crutchy> lol
[22:19:40] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[22:19:57] <BadCoderFinger> How are you today?
[22:19:58] <ciri> doing great here
[22:20:01] <chromas> add devuan; it's benign
[22:20:09] <BadCoderFinger> I'm on the mailing list, heh.
[22:20:14] <crutchy> maybe it knew you preferred bsd and the spoon of debian was your medicine :p
[22:21:07] <BadCoderFinger> If that's the case, I'd give it the Turing award.
[22:22:31] <crutchy> that should prolly go to tama :)
[22:22:43] <BadCoderFinger> Humor has to be the toughest thing for AI, in my opinion.
[22:22:53] <crutchy> ~last channel=# nick=tama
[22:23:09] <exec> 03[2015-05-07 21:49:4] # <tama> Bender is a dickbutt
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[22:25:28] <BadCoderFinger> Apparently, it hates Bender.
[22:28:03] * crutchy had better be off to workipoos
[22:28:05] <crutchy> haf fun
[22:29:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Want to Buy Nokia's Here Mapping Group - http://sylnt.us - battle-of-the-corporate-giants
[23:11:17] <BadCoderFinger> Argh. I get so spoiled working with a real git repo, then I have to use git-svn at work.
[23:11:36] <BadCoderFinger> SVN needs to disappear.
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[23:59:59] <paulej72> I know the bad guys win.