#Soylent | Logs for 2015-05-05

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[23:58:22] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, if we had something better than the hackable CAs. For now they're just so much snake oil.
[23:56:52] <SpallsHurgenson> huh. used to be big advocate of https everywhere but nowadays I have no trust in the certificate authorities whatsoever and am starting to think https is more of a hassle than its worth
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[23:53:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla: HTTPS is Coming. Get Out of the Way! - http://sylnt.us - genius-or-lunacy
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[23:47:11] <dogpipe> ^ 03The Game of Thrones guide to UK elections
[23:47:10] <SpallsHurgenson> http://videosift.com
[23:47:00] * BadCoderFinger drinks more beer.
[23:46:44] <BadCoderFinger> Not helping, dude. Not helping.
[23:45:22] <SpallsHurgenson> don't worry, I usually keep the trenchcoat closed
[23:43:54] <SpallsHurgenson> who surveils the surveillers?
[23:43:39] * BadCoderFinger pictures Spalls with a pulled down fedora, sunglasses, and a trenchcoat. Then he remembers Spalls hates pants and goes to get a beer to kill that image.
[23:43:29] * juggs watches the skulker via the hidden camera
[23:42:59] * SpallsHurgenson skulks
[23:42:46] <BadCoderFinger> Oh, I'll be quiet then.
[23:41:35] <SpallsHurgenson> shhh, I'm surveilling takyon!
[23:40:15] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls!
[23:38:43] <takyon> I can't handle all this surveillance
[23:38:37] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[23:38:37] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[23:38:03] <takyon> it's surveillance night
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[23:37:49] <takyon> hey BCF
[23:37:34] <takyon> let's see if I disconnected
[23:36:33] <BadCoderFinger> Hey takyon
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[22:17:34] <crutchy> if they wanna push the aussie dollar down they should just get on TV and start blathering on about how shit the economy is
[22:16:34] <crutchy> if they're turning into keynesian doves then the country is as fucked as the USA :(
[22:16:12] <crutchy> i hope the fucking RBA will realise their fuck up at trying to push the AUD down with low interest rates
[21:58:47] <Bender> karma - dogpipe: 3
[21:58:47] <crutchy> dogpipe++
[21:58:45] <crutchy> hehe
[21:58:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1347
[21:58:37] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:58:35] <dogpipe> Karma - coffee: 258
[21:58:35] <crutchy> ++coffee
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[21:51:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - http://sylnt.us - we-might-be-listening-a-bit
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[19:50:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - http://sylnt.us - bureaucracy-at-its-finest
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[19:16:11] <janrinok> not good for relaxing - but good for job security
[19:15:55] <CoolHand> (it's ramping back up right now it looks like.. :( )
[19:15:39] <CoolHand> been very off and on
[19:15:33] <janrinok> work*
[19:15:26] <janrinok> CoolHand: has worked calmed down a bit?
[19:04:08] <CoolHand> thanks guys.. :)
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[18:33:05] <paulej72> yeppers
[18:32:50] <janrinok> hi paulej72 - I beat you by 1 minute!
[18:32:45] <paulej72> nija'd
[18:32:27] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[18:32:27] <paulej72> CoolHand: https://soylentnews.org
[18:31:48] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[18:31:48] <janrinok> CoolHand: try https://soylentnews.org for comment counts. The Mo story is at number 10 in the list
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[18:12:29] <CoolHand> what's the record for # of comments on a story? anyone know? The "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" story has 225.. seems to be one of the biggest I remember..
[17:48:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Medical Bill Mystery - http://sylnt.us - are-the-codes-secret-are-they-safe?
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[15:16:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - http://sylnt.us - our-thinking-is-always-fuzzy
[15:15:36] <takyon> http://www.anandtech.com
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[13:52:23] <CoolHand> c ya kadal
[13:52:18] <kadal> cya
[13:52:16] <kadal> ok. heading to work.
[13:52:01] <kadal> ah, for e.g., on the Netflix HTTPS story (and some others I don't remember) there's always debate about whether non-critical stuff needs to be encrypted. Like random-dude's-blog-post.
[13:51:22] <CoolHand> hmm, not sure I follow you, but I'm sure you have nothing for which to be sorry.. :)
[13:49:38] <kadal> Oh I was referring to comment threads.
[13:49:27] <CoolHand> it's cool, we appreciate the contribution!
[13:49:17] <CoolHand> kadal: even though you said "The enforcing of HTTPS is something that has provoked discussion here in the past. Go crazy!"?
[13:47:04] <kadal> sorry about the mozilla story. Didn't realize it was part of some earlier submission.
[13:19:44] <janrinok> np
[13:19:36] * CoolHand - distracted by work currently
[13:15:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - http://sylnt.us - facebook-uber-alles
[13:13:57] <janrinok> #back
[12:57:50] <janrinok> brb 5
[12:57:40] <janrinok> human nature at its finest!
[12:57:22] <janrinok> and if you do all the work, nobody else will contribute to the ed task ;)
[12:56:47] <CoolHand> yeah.. although we can always re-arrange future stories if necessary..
[12:56:20] <janrinok> I don't know how much time you have to spare today, but it might be worth waiting an hour or two to see if any better subs arrive.
[12:55:40] <CoolHand> yeah, I was going to put the FEC out with very little changes, then see about working on the FCC one just a bit on a few points
[12:55:07] <janrinok> I'm just looking - you go ahead
[12:54:49] <janrinok> of the 2, I think that the FEC story is the stronger of them, they _could_ be merged on the basis that they both have political backgrounds, but they don't appear to be the same story. However, I don't know the background on this because it is US centric
[12:54:45] <CoolHand> oops. I started editing the same one as you.. the site saved me.. I'll let you have at it.. :)
[12:50:51] <janrinok> I don't think that there is much worth keeping in the sub queue at present. The 2 stories about FCC/FEC are the best in there, the other 2 can go imho
[12:49:17] <CoolHand> also, what do you think of the Forbes/Tesla article? is it enough of a dupe to kill? (or we in kind of the same situation with it)
[12:48:54] <janrinok> sounds like a plan!"
[12:48:44] <CoolHand> well, how bout if I move it back to the next slot, and stick one of the FCC or FEC stories in there.. then if we get more decent submissions, we can "nuke" it later in the day.. othewise, we're running pretty low..
[12:45:34] <CoolHand> ...and I was bout to nuke it.. hehe
[12:45:25] <janrinok> i noticed
[12:45:21] <CoolHand> Bytram just 2nd'ed it..
[12:45:15] <janrinok> Bytram: you on here?
[12:43:13] <janrinok> I would, but ultimately it is your call
[12:42:55] <CoolHand> well, I'll send it to 00:00:00 then..
[12:42:35] <janrinok> all the contents of the latest story were in one of the links in the original
[12:42:29] <CoolHand> I didn't really have anyone around to bounce it off of and we didn't have many other good tings in the q, so..
[12:42:11] <CoolHand> yeah... I was kind of torn, but the more I read and thought about it, the more I kind of thought we should go with it since this was the real announcement with details of what they're planning.. but if you want to nuke it, I have no problem with that..
[12:40:28] <janrinok> I know that you acknowledged our previous Mozilla HTTPS story, but I cannot see much that is new in the latest one
[12:39:18] <janrinok> I often find them good as a starting point to make me think about something, and then I can do my own research if I want to learn more
[12:38:34] <CoolHand> true.. plus I (and I know at least SOME others) think at least some of them are interesting.. :)
[12:38:02] <janrinok> People often critise Hugh Pickens stories - but you've got to admit that they are well formatted and require the minimum of effort on our part
[12:36:44] <CoolHand> yeah, esp with cmn leaving. he was helping quite a bit for a couple days
[12:36:07] <janrinok> looks like you are doing the brunt of the work again...
[12:35:43] <CoolHand> boo
[12:35:26] <janrinok> cmn is flying away again today I believe
[12:35:00] <janrinok> agreed
[12:34:42] <CoolHand> we had a "sex on the beach" story, but cmn and I both thought it wasn't really sommething we needed to run, so I del'ed it.
[12:33:46] <janrinok> I added a token story this morning and looked at those stories, decided I was too tired and didn't understand, so left them
[12:33:24] <CoolHand> ok.. we can run them separate them..
[12:32:57] <janrinok> I've looked and I agree - I thought that perhaps I was missing something
[12:32:47] <CoolHand> hear ya about FF..
[12:32:35] <janrinok> I don't like the UI anymore, but the older versions that I do like - and in which my preferred add-ons still work - are no longer secure
[12:32:33] <CoolHand> let me know your thoughts if you would
[12:32:26] <CoolHand> so, if you get around to looking at sub q - the 2 articles with "merge?" don't really seem related to me..
[12:31:46] <CoolHand> may be
[12:31:38] <janrinok> I'm using exactly the same - perhaps it is VM specific?
[12:31:35] <CoolHand> (running "peppermint" distro in vm)
[12:30:58] <CoolHand> 37.0.2 for ubuntu canonical-1.0
[12:29:44] <janrinok> what version of FF?
[12:29:22] <CoolHand> firefox running in my vm just locked up.. it does that occasionally but usually comes back in a couple seconds. the vm is fine, and FF isn't taking excessive memoryor anything.. weird..
[12:28:34] <CoolHand> good..
[12:28:32] <janrinok> very tired because I didn't sleep well, but doing fine I guess thx. You?
[12:28:01] <janrinok> :) how's things?
[12:27:58] <CoolHand> how's it going janrinok ?
[12:27:53] <CoolHand> w00t! w00t!
[12:27:45] <janrinok> CoolHand: !
[12:27:00] <CoolHand> janrinok!!
[12:24:19] <janrinok> hi guys
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[10:43:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Programming Talent Myth - http://sylnt.us - are-you-good-to-work-with?
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[09:25:07] <chromas> dylsexia of the hand
[09:25:02] <chromas> nexus
[09:24:59] <chromas> seems like nesux doesn't like &channels
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[09:04:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1346
[09:04:44] <crutchy> coffee++
[09:04:43] <InfoSphere> Karma - coffee: 257
[09:04:43] <crutchy> ++coffee
[08:11:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Diamonds are a Plant's Best Friend - http://sylnt.us - finder's-keepers
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[05:39:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Detect ‘Quantum Insert’ Attacks - http://sylnt.us
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[03:34:23] <SirFinkus> sounds like good fun
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[03:19:54] <Leebert> David Cameron has made "difficult decisions", and Ed Miliband is "weaponizing" the NHS. Did I get that right?
[03:19:29] <Leebert> My knowledge of British politics as basically boils down to listening to Prime Minister's Questions. So I feel quite well informed.
[03:18:10] <Leebert> BTW, as an American I am hoping we'll get some coverage of the UK election this week...
[03:16:43] <SirFinkus> did we?
[03:15:20] <GungnirSniper> Did we elect Chancellor NCommander as Emperor today?
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[03:11:05] <Leebert> heh. I *just* submitted my, err, submission. Oh well; got scooped. :)
[03:10:59] <BadCoderFinger> Dwarf Fortress is to gaming what Intercal is to programming.
[03:07:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - http://sylnt.us - couldn't-even-run-a-company
[03:05:09] <SirFinkus> NCommander looks extremely complicated and like a huge pita, like most things in DF
[02:56:02] <SirFinkus> wandering around drunk in abandoned mines, what would possibly go wrong?
[02:54:46] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Imgur
[02:54:46] <SirFinkus> http://imgur.com
[02:54:26] <SirFinkus> pics pending
[02:54:12] <SirFinkus> I was playing life dwarf fortress
[02:52:28] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Ulitmate Marksdwarf Guide - Get Them Training Much More Frequently
[02:52:26] <NCommander> http://www.bay12forums.com
[02:52:21] <SirFinkus> no, been in bumfuck the past few days
[02:52:07] <NCommander> SirFinkus, did you see my Ulitmate Marksdwarf Guide? Which shows how to get them to train consistently :)
[02:52:02] <juggs> how goes it SirFinkus ?
[02:51:32] <SirFinkus> diaf ciri
[02:51:01] <ciri> welcome human. SirFinkus
[02:51:01] <SirFinkus> hi NCommander
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[02:41:30] * juggs feeds ciri a large dose of warfarin
[02:39:20] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[02:39:20] <juggs> How long is it since the HP / Compaq merger?
[02:38:09] * juggs pokes the dying embers of a fire that looked to be burnt out too
[02:37:32] <Leebert> Enough said. :)
[02:37:29] <Leebert> She was the one who thought it was a brilliant, BRILLIANT idea to merge HP with Compaq.
[02:28:40] <BadCoderFinger> I have a friend who works for HP, so I do have a bit of bias.
[02:26:26] <BadCoderFinger> She was the CEO of HP for a while.
[02:25:26] <BadCoderFinger> Well, speaking for myself, I'm not a fan of hers, certainly.
[02:20:13] <juggs> thus*
[02:19:58] <juggs> She killed Hewlett-Packard? And now she's coming for you and the entire US public with a railgun, like some deranged psychotic mentalist? I have no idea who this person is, but the portrayal this far does not pass the sniff test of "unbiased".
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[02:12:43] <BadCoderFinger> Now she wants public office here in the US to try and kill us too.
[02:12:08] <BadCoderFinger> She's the one credited for killing HP.
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[02:10:05] <juggs> I have no idea - is she a porn actress? Or perhaps a car stylist? Oh, wait, that's Pininfarina. Anyone want to expand on why the rest of the world should give a toss about this Carly person?
[02:05:26] <BadCoderFinger> I want to move just to vote against her.
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[01:57:32] <Leebert> (yes, yes, I shall submit said story shortly)
[01:57:24] <Leebert> Disappointed, Soylent. Disappointed. :)
[01:57:13] <Leebert> I sit down in my chair for a few minutes of reading political flamefests and there is no story about Carly Fiorina having declared candidacy?
[01:49:04] <juggs> heh - dig it up and flog it - that seems sustainable in the long term. :)
[01:48:52] <chromas> I'm assuming #ftag is for the dirty, dirty javascript
[01:48:41] <takyon> I wonder if that would break certain links
[01:48:31] <chromas> works now; the title was cached
[01:48:22] <chromas> yeah the #ftag=
[01:48:18] <chromas> that's better.
[01:48:14] <takyon> is it supposed to filter out the hash value
[01:47:49] <chromas> oh
[01:47:46] <chromas> :(
[01:47:43] <InfoSphere> ^* 03Down in the hole: A photo tour of Australia's largest open-pit gold mine, the Super Pit (pictures) - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[01:47:43] <chromas> test http://www.cnet.com
[01:47:35] <InfoSphere> k
[01:47:33] <chromas> =restart
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[01:45:45] <JamesNZ> Nein!
[01:45:18] <juggs> No grabby grabby - or lighting juggs' jiggly juggs on fire. Capiche?
[01:45:04] <BadCoderFinger> Check to see if the skeleton is glowing now!
[01:44:09] <JamesNZ> Aww.
[01:43:55] * juggs jiggles the flames out. Not cool.
[01:43:16] <JamesNZ> That'll light the room *and* make your skeleton happy :D
[01:42:57] * JamesNZ lights juggs' juggs instead
[01:42:54] <BadCoderFinger> Too late, I found it already.
[01:42:38] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Scientists discover key driver of human aging | KurzweilAI
[01:42:37] <takyon> http://www.kurzweilai.net
[01:41:47] * juggs lights some candles - that should help
[01:41:39] <InfoSphere> ^ 03How our view of what makes us happy has changed in 80 years -- ScienceDaily ( http://www.sciencedaily.com )
[01:41:38] <Bytram> http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[01:41:08] <juggs> Kinda got dark in here...
[01:37:24] <juggs> Is it whispering "Die MotherF* Die, so I can be one with the soil" - guess it didn't get the message that it'll most likely be incinerated along with the rest of my useless watery corpse
[01:36:44] <chromas> it rattles inside; we can see the influence—jiggling juggs
[01:36:02] * JamesNZ whispers to the skeleton
[01:35:44] <takyon> always whispering
[01:35:40] <takyon> it's whispering
[01:35:28] <juggs> takyon, if my skeleton has a will of it's own it's having a hard time making itself heard :P
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[01:29:07] <BadCoderFinger> Mine wants beer.
[01:21:59] <takyon> your skeleton has a will of its own and it wants you gone
[01:20:43] <juggs> takyon, my skeleton is not spooky - it's some calcium deposits arranged so that I can walk, talk, type and generally not have my vital organs appear as heap of mush on the floor. I have no idea why people get freaked out over skeletons. We don't get freaked out over finding a cuttlefish bone on the beach for e.g. It's just a part of our physical representation in this plane.
[01:16:22] <InfoSphere> ^ 03'Fuzzy thinking' in depression, bipolar disorder: New research finds effect is real -- ScienceDaily ( http://www.sciencedaily.com )
[01:16:20] * Bytram tries another: http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[01:16:13] <takyon> there's a spooky skeleton hiding inside you
[01:15:54] <takyon> did you know about skeletons?
[01:15:03] <juggs> Tachyon_, you know about /ghost right ?
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[01:05:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - http://sylnt.us - dwarf-gold-fever-infecting-standards
[01:05:08] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: positively!
[01:04:44] <Bytram> see! ends up in the same place, but without all the tracking junk
[01:04:26] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Down in the hole: A photo tour of Australia's largest open-pit gold mine, the Super Pit (pictures) - CNET
[01:04:25] <Bytram> http://www.cnet.com
[01:04:07] <Bytram> nah, I saw the link in #rss-bot and was wondering where the link resolved to... I do NOT like being tracked!
[01:03:44] <mrcoolbp> don’t think so
[01:03:25] <takyon> did this get posted
[01:02:58] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Down in the hole: A photo tour of Australia's largest open-pit gold mine, the Super Pit (pictures) - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[01:02:57] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
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[00:36:32] <BadCoderFinger> Sounds like something to avoid, heh
[00:35:39] <CoolHand> nice bit of trivia there... :)
[00:35:20] <mrcoolbp> yeah....
[00:34:57] <takyon> Positive lightning bolts are considerably hotter and longer than negative lightning. They can develop six to ten times the amount of charge and voltage of a negative bolt and the discharge current may last ten times longer.
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[00:33:36] <mrcoolbp> it was pretty positive I’d say
[00:31:53] <BadCoderFinger> Hrm, that bar starts pretty low, heh
[00:31:23] <CoolHand> slightly... ;)
[00:30:50] <BadCoderFinger> Cool. Hope it was better than the meetings I have at work.
[00:29:49] <juggs> SN Board meeting
[00:29:49] <takyon> CoolHand's palms are sweaty
[00:29:45] <juggs> BadCoderFinger, I figure I'll just jiggle this one a little longer :D
[00:29:41] <BadCoderFinger> SN meeting, or work?
[00:29:22] <CoolHand> just recovering from teh big meeting just over.. :)
[00:29:14] <BadCoderFinger> Heya juggs! No new nick yet, I see.
[00:29:01] <BadCoderFinger> How are you guys?
[00:29:00] <juggs> Hi BadCoderFinger - how's things?
[00:28:50] <BadCoderFinger> Hey CoolHand
[00:28:27] <CoolHand> hello BadCoderFinger
[00:28:12] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[00:26:55] <juggs> .topic SN Main Channel - be respectful of others | https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publically displayed
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[00:11:46] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Next Big Future: EMDrive, possible Warp or hyperspace indications and more Goatguy fame
[00:11:45] <takyon> emdrive plot twist: it could be a WARP DRIVE too: http://nextbigfuture.com