#Soylent | Logs for 2015-05-05

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[00:11:45] <takyon> emdrive plot twist: it could be a WARP DRIVE too: http://nextbigfuture.com
[00:11:46] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Next Big Future: EMDrive, possible Warp or hyperspace indications and more Goatguy fame
[00:20:17] Bytram changed topic of #Soylent to: SN Main Channel - be respectful of others | https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publically displayed | SN PBC Board Meeting - Monday May 4th at 11pm UTC in #staff, all are welcome
[00:20:49] Bytram changed topic of #Soylent to: SN Main Channel - be respectful of others | https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publically displayed
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[00:26:55] <juggs> .topic SN Main Channel - be respectful of others | https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publically displayed
[00:28:12] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[00:28:27] <CoolHand> hello BadCoderFinger
[00:28:50] <BadCoderFinger> Hey CoolHand
[00:29:00] <juggs> Hi BadCoderFinger - how's things?
[00:29:01] <BadCoderFinger> How are you guys?
[00:29:14] <BadCoderFinger> Heya juggs! No new nick yet, I see.
[00:29:22] <CoolHand> just recovering from teh big meeting just over.. :)
[00:29:41] <BadCoderFinger> SN meeting, or work?
[00:29:45] <juggs> BadCoderFinger, I figure I'll just jiggle this one a little longer :D
[00:29:49] <takyon> CoolHand's palms are sweaty
[00:29:49] <juggs> SN Board meeting
[00:30:50] <BadCoderFinger> Cool. Hope it was better than the meetings I have at work.
[00:31:23] <CoolHand> slightly... ;)
[00:31:53] <BadCoderFinger> Hrm, that bar starts pretty low, heh
[00:33:36] <mrcoolbp> it was pretty positive I’d say
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[00:34:57] <takyon> Positive lightning bolts are considerably hotter and longer than negative lightning. They can develop six to ten times the amount of charge and voltage of a negative bolt and the discharge current may last ten times longer.
[00:35:20] <mrcoolbp> yeah....
[00:35:39] <CoolHand> nice bit of trivia there... :)
[00:36:32] <BadCoderFinger> Sounds like something to avoid, heh
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[01:02:57] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[01:02:58] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Down in the hole: A photo tour of Australia's largest open-pit gold mine, the Super Pit (pictures) - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[01:03:25] <takyon> did this get posted
[01:03:44] <mrcoolbp> don’t think so
[01:04:07] <Bytram> nah, I saw the link in #rss-bot and was wondering where the link resolved to... I do NOT like being tracked!
[01:04:25] <Bytram> http://www.cnet.com
[01:04:26] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Down in the hole: A photo tour of Australia's largest open-pit gold mine, the Super Pit (pictures) - CNET
[01:04:44] <Bytram> see! ends up in the same place, but without all the tracking junk
[01:05:08] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: positively!
[01:05:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Gold Standard Established for Open and Reproducible Research - http://sylnt.us - dwarf-gold-fever-infecting-standards
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[01:15:03] <juggs> Tachyon_, you know about /ghost right ?
[01:15:54] <takyon> did you know about skeletons?
[01:16:13] <takyon> there's a spooky skeleton hiding inside you
[01:16:20] * Bytram tries another: http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[01:16:22] <InfoSphere> ^ 03'Fuzzy thinking' in depression, bipolar disorder: New research finds effect is real -- ScienceDaily ( http://www.sciencedaily.com )
[01:20:43] <juggs> takyon, my skeleton is not spooky - it's some calcium deposits arranged so that I can walk, talk, type and generally not have my vital organs appear as heap of mush on the floor. I have no idea why people get freaked out over skeletons. We don't get freaked out over finding a cuttlefish bone on the beach for e.g. It's just a part of our physical representation in this plane.
[01:21:59] <takyon> your skeleton has a will of its own and it wants you gone
[01:29:07] <BadCoderFinger> Mine wants beer.
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[01:35:28] <juggs> takyon, if my skeleton has a will of it's own it's having a hard time making itself heard :P
[01:35:40] <takyon> it's whispering
[01:35:44] <takyon> always whispering
[01:36:02] * JamesNZ whispers to the skeleton
[01:36:44] <chromas> it rattles inside; we can see the influence—jiggling juggs
[01:37:24] <juggs> Is it whispering "Die MotherF* Die, so I can be one with the soil" - guess it didn't get the message that it'll most likely be incinerated along with the rest of my useless watery corpse
[01:41:08] <juggs> Kinda got dark in here...
[01:41:38] <Bytram> http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[01:41:39] <InfoSphere> ^ 03How our view of what makes us happy has changed in 80 years -- ScienceDaily ( http://www.sciencedaily.com )
[01:41:47] * juggs lights some candles - that should help
[01:42:37] <takyon> http://www.kurzweilai.net
[01:42:38] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Scientists discover key driver of human aging | KurzweilAI
[01:42:54] <BadCoderFinger> Too late, I found it already.
[01:42:57] * JamesNZ lights juggs' juggs instead
[01:43:16] <JamesNZ> That'll light the room *and* make your skeleton happy :D
[01:43:55] * juggs jiggles the flames out. Not cool.
[01:44:09] <JamesNZ> Aww.
[01:45:04] <BadCoderFinger> Check to see if the skeleton is glowing now!
[01:45:18] <juggs> No grabby grabby - or lighting juggs' jiggly juggs on fire. Capiche?
[01:45:45] <JamesNZ> Nein!
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[01:47:33] <chromas> =restart
[01:47:35] <InfoSphere> k
[01:47:43] <chromas> test http://www.cnet.com
[01:47:43] <InfoSphere> ^* 03Down in the hole: A photo tour of Australia's largest open-pit gold mine, the Super Pit (pictures) - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[01:47:46] <chromas> :(
[01:47:49] <chromas> oh
[01:48:14] <takyon> is it supposed to filter out the hash value
[01:48:18] <chromas> that's better.
[01:48:22] <chromas> yeah the #ftag=
[01:48:31] <chromas> works now; the title was cached
[01:48:41] <takyon> I wonder if that would break certain links
[01:48:52] <chromas> I'm assuming #ftag is for the dirty, dirty javascript
[01:49:04] <juggs> heh - dig it up and flog it - that seems sustainable in the long term. :)
[01:57:13] <Leebert> I sit down in my chair for a few minutes of reading political flamefests and there is no story about Carly Fiorina having declared candidacy?
[01:57:24] <Leebert> Disappointed, Soylent. Disappointed. :)
[01:57:32] <Leebert> (yes, yes, I shall submit said story shortly)
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[02:05:26] <BadCoderFinger> I want to move just to vote against her.
[02:10:05] <juggs> I have no idea - is she a porn actress? Or perhaps a car stylist? Oh, wait, that's Pininfarina. Anyone want to expand on why the rest of the world should give a toss about this Carly person?
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[02:12:08] <BadCoderFinger> She's the one credited for killing HP.
[02:12:43] <BadCoderFinger> Now she wants public office here in the US to try and kill us too.
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[02:19:58] <juggs> She killed Hewlett-Packard? And now she's coming for you and the entire US public with a railgun, like some deranged psychotic mentalist? I have no idea who this person is, but the portrayal this far does not pass the sniff test of "unbiased".
[02:20:13] <juggs> thus*
[02:25:26] <BadCoderFinger> Well, speaking for myself, I'm not a fan of hers, certainly.
[02:26:26] <BadCoderFinger> She was the CEO of HP for a while.
[02:28:40] <BadCoderFinger> I have a friend who works for HP, so I do have a bit of bias.
[02:37:29] <Leebert> She was the one who thought it was a brilliant, BRILLIANT idea to merge HP with Compaq.
[02:37:32] <Leebert> Enough said. :)
[02:38:09] * juggs pokes the dying embers of a fire that looked to be burnt out too
[02:39:20] <juggs> How long is it since the HP / Compaq merger?
[02:39:20] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[02:41:30] * juggs feeds ciri a large dose of warfarin
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[02:51:01] <SirFinkus> hi NCommander
[02:51:01] <ciri> welcome human. SirFinkus
[02:51:32] <SirFinkus> diaf ciri
[02:52:02] <juggs> how goes it SirFinkus ?
[02:52:07] <NCommander> SirFinkus, did you see my Ulitmate Marksdwarf Guide? Which shows how to get them to train consistently :)
[02:52:21] <SirFinkus> no, been in bumfuck the past few days
[02:52:26] <NCommander> http://www.bay12forums.com
[02:52:28] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Ulitmate Marksdwarf Guide - Get Them Training Much More Frequently
[02:54:12] <SirFinkus> I was playing life dwarf fortress
[02:54:26] <SirFinkus> pics pending
[02:54:46] <SirFinkus> http://imgur.com
[02:54:46] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Imgur
[02:56:02] <SirFinkus> wandering around drunk in abandoned mines, what would possibly go wrong?
[03:05:09] <SirFinkus> NCommander looks extremely complicated and like a huge pita, like most things in DF
[03:07:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Seeks Republican Nomination for US President - http://sylnt.us - couldn't-even-run-a-company
[03:10:59] <BadCoderFinger> Dwarf Fortress is to gaming what Intercal is to programming.
[03:11:05] <Leebert> heh. I *just* submitted my, err, submission. Oh well; got scooped. :)
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[03:15:20] <GungnirSniper> Did we elect Chancellor NCommander as Emperor today?
[03:16:43] <SirFinkus> did we?
[03:18:10] <Leebert> BTW, as an American I am hoping we'll get some coverage of the UK election this week...
[03:19:29] <Leebert> My knowledge of British politics as basically boils down to listening to Prime Minister's Questions. So I feel quite well informed.
[03:19:54] <Leebert> David Cameron has made "difficult decisions", and Ed Miliband is "weaponizing" the NHS. Did I get that right?
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[03:34:23] <SirFinkus> sounds like good fun
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[05:39:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Detect ‘Quantum Insert’ Attacks - http://sylnt.us
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[09:04:43] <crutchy> ++coffee
[09:04:43] <InfoSphere> Karma - coffee: 257
[09:04:44] <crutchy> coffee++
[09:04:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1346
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[09:24:59] <chromas> seems like nesux doesn't like &channels
[09:25:02] <chromas> nexus
[09:25:07] <chromas> dylsexia of the hand
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[10:43:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Programming Talent Myth - http://sylnt.us - are-you-good-to-work-with?
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[12:24:19] <janrinok> hi guys
[12:27:00] <CoolHand> janrinok!!
[12:27:45] <janrinok> CoolHand: !
[12:27:53] <CoolHand> w00t! w00t!
[12:27:58] <CoolHand> how's it going janrinok ?
[12:28:01] <janrinok> :) how's things?
[12:28:32] <janrinok> very tired because I didn't sleep well, but doing fine I guess thx. You?
[12:28:34] <CoolHand> good..
[12:29:22] <CoolHand> firefox running in my vm just locked up.. it does that occasionally but usually comes back in a couple seconds. the vm is fine, and FF isn't taking excessive memoryor anything.. weird..
[12:29:44] <janrinok> what version of FF?
[12:30:58] <CoolHand> 37.0.2 for ubuntu canonical-1.0
[12:31:35] <CoolHand> (running "peppermint" distro in vm)
[12:31:38] <janrinok> I'm using exactly the same - perhaps it is VM specific?
[12:31:46] <CoolHand> may be
[12:32:26] <CoolHand> so, if you get around to looking at sub q - the 2 articles with "merge?" don't really seem related to me..
[12:32:33] <CoolHand> let me know your thoughts if you would
[12:32:35] <janrinok> I don't like the UI anymore, but the older versions that I do like - and in which my preferred add-ons still work - are no longer secure
[12:32:47] <CoolHand> hear ya about FF..
[12:32:57] <janrinok> I've looked and I agree - I thought that perhaps I was missing something
[12:33:24] <CoolHand> ok.. we can run them separate them..
[12:33:46] <janrinok> I added a token story this morning and looked at those stories, decided I was too tired and didn't understand, so left them
[12:34:42] <CoolHand> we had a "sex on the beach" story, but cmn and I both thought it wasn't really sommething we needed to run, so I del'ed it.
[12:35:00] <janrinok> agreed
[12:35:26] <janrinok> cmn is flying away again today I believe
[12:35:43] <CoolHand> boo
[12:36:07] <janrinok> looks like you are doing the brunt of the work again...
[12:36:44] <CoolHand> yeah, esp with cmn leaving. he was helping quite a bit for a couple days
[12:38:02] <janrinok> People often critise Hugh Pickens stories - but you've got to admit that they are well formatted and require the minimum of effort on our part
[12:38:34] <CoolHand> true.. plus I (and I know at least SOME others) think at least some of them are interesting.. :)
[12:39:18] <janrinok> I often find them good as a starting point to make me think about something, and then I can do my own research if I want to learn more
[12:40:28] <janrinok> I know that you acknowledged our previous Mozilla HTTPS story, but I cannot see much that is new in the latest one
[12:42:11] <CoolHand> yeah... I was kind of torn, but the more I read and thought about it, the more I kind of thought we should go with it since this was the real announcement with details of what they're planning.. but if you want to nuke it, I have no problem with that..
[12:42:29] <CoolHand> I didn't really have anyone around to bounce it off of and we didn't have many other good tings in the q, so..
[12:42:35] <janrinok> all the contents of the latest story were in one of the links in the original
[12:42:55] <CoolHand> well, I'll send it to 00:00:00 then..
[12:43:13] <janrinok> I would, but ultimately it is your call
[12:45:15] <janrinok> Bytram: you on here?
[12:45:21] <CoolHand> Bytram just 2nd'ed it..
[12:45:25] <janrinok> i noticed
[12:45:34] <CoolHand> ...and I was bout to nuke it.. hehe
[12:48:44] <CoolHand> well, how bout if I move it back to the next slot, and stick one of the FCC or FEC stories in there.. then if we get more decent submissions, we can "nuke" it later in the day.. othewise, we're running pretty low..
[12:48:54] <janrinok> sounds like a plan!"
[12:49:17] <CoolHand> also, what do you think of the Forbes/Tesla article? is it enough of a dupe to kill? (or we in kind of the same situation with it)
[12:50:51] <janrinok> I don't think that there is much worth keeping in the sub queue at present. The 2 stories about FCC/FEC are the best in there, the other 2 can go imho
[12:54:45] <CoolHand> oops. I started editing the same one as you.. the site saved me.. I'll let you have at it.. :)
[12:54:49] <janrinok> of the 2, I think that the FEC story is the stronger of them, they _could_ be merged on the basis that they both have political backgrounds, but they don't appear to be the same story. However, I don't know the background on this because it is US centric
[12:55:07] <janrinok> I'm just looking - you go ahead
[12:55:40] <CoolHand> yeah, I was going to put the FEC out with very little changes, then see about working on the FCC one just a bit on a few points
[12:56:20] <janrinok> I don't know how much time you have to spare today, but it might be worth waiting an hour or two to see if any better subs arrive.
[12:56:47] <CoolHand> yeah.. although we can always re-arrange future stories if necessary..
[12:57:22] <janrinok> and if you do all the work, nobody else will contribute to the ed task ;)
[12:57:40] <janrinok> human nature at its finest!
[12:57:50] <janrinok> brb 5
[13:13:57] <janrinok> #back
[13:15:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook's Internet.org "Platform" Launches - http://sylnt.us - facebook-uber-alles
[13:19:36] * CoolHand - distracted by work currently
[13:19:44] <janrinok> np
[13:47:04] <kadal> sorry about the mozilla story. Didn't realize it was part of some earlier submission.
[13:49:17] <CoolHand> kadal: even though you said "The enforcing of HTTPS is something that has provoked discussion here in the past. Go crazy!"?
[13:49:27] <CoolHand> it's cool, we appreciate the contribution!
[13:49:38] <kadal> Oh I was referring to comment threads.
[13:51:22] <CoolHand> hmm, not sure I follow you, but I'm sure you have nothing for which to be sorry.. :)
[13:52:01] <kadal> ah, for e.g., on the Netflix HTTPS story (and some others I don't remember) there's always debate about whether non-critical stuff needs to be encrypted. Like random-dude's-blog-post.
[13:52:16] <kadal> ok. heading to work.
[13:52:18] <kadal> cya
[13:52:23] <CoolHand> c ya kadal
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[15:15:36] <takyon> http://www.anandtech.com
[15:16:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Fuzzy Thinking' in Depression, Bipolar Disorder: New Research Finds Effect is Real - http://sylnt.us - our-thinking-is-always-fuzzy
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[17:48:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Medical Bill Mystery - http://sylnt.us - are-the-codes-secret-are-they-safe?
[18:12:29] <CoolHand> what's the record for # of comments on a story? anyone know? The "Draw the Prophet Muhammad" story has 225.. seems to be one of the biggest I remember..
[18:15:50] janrinok|afk is now known as janrinok
[18:31:48] <janrinok> CoolHand: try https://soylentnews.org for comment counts. The Mo story is at number 10 in the list
[18:31:48] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[18:32:27] <paulej72> CoolHand: https://soylentnews.org
[18:32:27] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[18:32:45] <paulej72> nija'd
[18:32:50] <janrinok> hi paulej72 - I beat you by 1 minute!
[18:33:05] <paulej72> yeppers
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[19:04:08] <CoolHand> thanks guys.. :)
[19:15:26] <janrinok> CoolHand: has worked calmed down a bit?
[19:15:33] <janrinok> work*
[19:15:39] <CoolHand> been very off and on
[19:15:55] <CoolHand> (it's ramping back up right now it looks like.. :( )
[19:16:11] <janrinok> not good for relaxing - but good for job security
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[19:50:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - F.E.C. Can’t Curb 2016 Election Abuse, Commission Chief Says - http://sylnt.us - bureaucracy-at-its-finest
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[21:51:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA's "Google for Voice," And More - http://sylnt.us - we-might-be-listening-a-bit
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[21:58:35] <crutchy> ++coffee
[21:58:35] <dogpipe> Karma - coffee: 258
[21:58:37] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:58:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1347
[21:58:45] <crutchy> hehe
[21:58:47] <crutchy> dogpipe++
[21:58:47] <Bender> karma - dogpipe: 3
[22:16:12] <crutchy> i hope the fucking RBA will realise their fuck up at trying to push the AUD down with low interest rates
[22:16:34] <crutchy> if they're turning into keynesian doves then the country is as fucked as the USA :(
[22:17:34] <crutchy> if they wanna push the aussie dollar down they should just get on TV and start blathering on about how shit the economy is
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[23:34:14] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v takyon] by Imogen
[23:36:33] <BadCoderFinger> Hey takyon
[23:37:34] <takyon> let's see if I disconnected
[23:37:49] <takyon> hey BCF
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[23:38:03] <takyon> it's surveillance night
[23:38:37] <takyon> https://soylentnews.org
[23:38:37] <dogpipe> ^✓ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[23:38:43] <takyon> I can't handle all this surveillance
[23:40:15] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls!
[23:41:35] <SpallsHurgenson> shhh, I'm surveilling takyon!
[23:42:46] <BadCoderFinger> Oh, I'll be quiet then.
[23:42:59] * SpallsHurgenson skulks
[23:43:29] * juggs watches the skulker via the hidden camera
[23:43:39] * BadCoderFinger pictures Spalls with a pulled down fedora, sunglasses, and a trenchcoat. Then he remembers Spalls hates pants and goes to get a beer to kill that image.
[23:43:54] <SpallsHurgenson> who surveils the surveillers?
[23:45:22] <SpallsHurgenson> don't worry, I usually keep the trenchcoat closed
[23:46:44] <BadCoderFinger> Not helping, dude. Not helping.
[23:47:00] * BadCoderFinger drinks more beer.
[23:47:10] <SpallsHurgenson> http://videosift.com
[23:47:11] <dogpipe> ^ 03The Game of Thrones guide to UK elections
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[23:53:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mozilla: HTTPS is Coming. Get Out of the Way! - http://sylnt.us - genius-or-lunacy
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[23:56:52] <SpallsHurgenson> huh. used to be big advocate of https everywhere but nowadays I have no trust in the certificate authorities whatsoever and am starting to think https is more of a hassle than its worth
[23:58:22] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, if we had something better than the hackable CAs. For now they're just so much snake oil.