#Soylent | Logs for 2015-05-03

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[00:01:43] <BadCoderFinger> !YO I have been writing far too much code and not been working with enough circuits.
[00:01:43] <LaDarius> I have been writin' far too much code an' not been workin' wit' enough circuits.
[00:02:17] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, the most non-ebonics sentence I could think of.
[00:02:21] <cmn32480> !YO Why is ebonics considered a language?
[00:02:21] <LaDarius> Why is ebonics considered a language?
[00:02:30] <Ethanol-fueled> new rule - replace "been" with ""
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[00:02:59] <chromas> or have
[00:03:12] <chromas> except when you want have → got
[00:03:23] <chromas> BadCircuitFinger
[00:04:01] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: put in a string.replace() loop
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[00:04:11] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, that's how it already works.
[00:04:22] <chromas> then you can store an array for substitutions that can be changed at runtime through irc
[00:04:28] <Ethanol-fueled> parallel arrays of strings representing the pre adn post translation values.
[00:04:38] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, they're hard-coded for now.
[00:04:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I think they should stay that way.
[00:04:59] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO I have been in it.
[00:04:59] <LaDarius> I havein it.
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[00:06:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Anyway, gotta get ready for a date and clean my filthy place. have fun with the !YO command!
[00:06:37] <BadCoderFinger> !YO I enjoy large-bottomed women and I may not utter an untruth.
[00:06:37] <LaDarius> I enjoy large-bottomed ho's an' I may not utter an untruth.
[00:06:42] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[00:07:52] <cmn32480> !YO your mother called and wanted some moose wang
[00:07:52] <LaDarius> your mo'dar called an' wanted some moose wang
[00:08:07] <cmn32480> hehe
[00:09:23] <cmn32480> !yo I believe in the Republican cause
[00:09:33] <cmn32480> !YO I believe in the Republican cause
[00:09:34] <LaDarius> I believe in 'da Republican cause
[00:10:06] <cmn32480> ethanol-fueled - does !YO need to be case sensitive?
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[00:13:45] <cmn32480> !YO your mother is so fat she has her own gravitational field
[00:13:45] <LaDarius> your mo'dar so fat she has her own gravitational field
[00:14:28] <cmn32480> ~weather
[00:14:29] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[00:14:35] <cmn32480> ~weather 21015
[00:14:37] <exec> 03Bel Air, MD 21015, USA - currently 64°F / 18°C, mostly cloudy, wind S at 9 mph, humidity 62% - Saturday partly cloudy (50°F-72°F / 10°C-22°C), Sunday mostly sunny (54°F-79°F / 12°C-26°C), Monday mostly sunny (57°F-82°F / 14°C-28°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (58°F-84°F / 14°C-29°C)
[00:14:58] <cmn32480> ~weather 19711
[00:15:00] <exec> 03Newark, DE 19711, USA - currently 60°F / 16°C, partly cloudy, wind S at 15 mph, humidity 71% - Saturday partly cloudy (50°F-71°F / 10°C-22°C), Sunday mostly sunny (54°F-79°F / 12°C-26°C), Monday mostly sunny (58°F-83°F / 14°C-28°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (59°F-85°F / 15°C-29°C)
[00:15:17] <Ethanol-fueled> it needs more work
[00:15:59] <Ethanol-fueled> !join #
[00:21:54] <crutchy> cmn32480, you can set your location using ~weather-add
[00:21:58] <crutchy> i think
[00:22:02] <crutchy> ~weather-add
[00:22:02] <exec> syntax: ~weather-add name location (name cannot contain spaces but location can contain spaces)
[00:22:07] <crutchy> ah yeah :p
[00:22:42] <crutchy> if you do ~weather-add cmn32480 wherever you are you will be able to then just do ~weather on its own
[00:25:06] <crutchy> !YO mo'da is 'da bike
[00:25:06] <LaDarius> mo'da 'da bike
[00:25:26] <crutchy> !YO yo mo'da
[00:25:26] <LaDarius> yo mo'da
[00:25:41] <crutchy> no, yo mo'da, and you aunt's cousin too
[00:26:04] <chromas> !YO mom
[00:26:04] <LaDarius> mom
[00:26:12] <chromas> →moms
[00:26:15] <chromas> pops
[00:27:05] <chromas> actually
[00:27:15] <chromas> mom → moms; dad →
[00:29:42] <BadCoderFinger> EF writes a book: Ebonics, the International Language
[00:30:08] <BadCoderFinger> Subtitle: What L. L. Zamenhoff really meant
[00:33:34] <BadCoderFinger> Dangit. Spallshurgenson would have laughed.
[00:34:31] <chromas> ~random nick=SpallsHurgenson message=lol
[00:34:36] <exec> 03[2015-01-05 03:49:1] #Soylent <SpallsHurgenson> lol
[00:37:23] <BadCoderFinger> I know a pity laugh when I see one!
[00:37:25] <BadCoderFinger> Heh
[00:37:36] * chromas had to look the guy up
[00:38:05] <chromas> ~random nick=poutine channel=
[00:38:09] <exec> 03[2014-03-11 00:36:32] #Soylent <poutine--> SpallsHurgenson: I think we've passed the point in history where these things are "conspiracy theories"
[00:39:04] <chromas> ~last nick=SpallsHurgenson until=2014-03-11 00:36:32
[00:39:06] <exec> 03[2014-03-11 00:36:04] #Soylent <SpallsHurgenson> whoa, did I /join #waco in error?
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[00:48:02] <cmn32480> crutchy - the problem is I never know where I am gonna be
[00:48:09] <cmn32480> and sometimes, I don't knwo where I am
[00:53:27] <BadCoderFinger> GPS?
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[01:18:03] <mythterj> Whats up with all those spamy lookng submissions in the queue?
[01:19:32] <Bytram> !uid
[01:19:32] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5235, owned by skyrocketends
[01:20:13] <Bytram> mythterj: they are spam... and are being held so that one of the devs can look at 'em... contents, etc. could be used to block future receipt of same
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[01:20:30] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[01:20:32] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 50°F, partly cloudy, wind SE at 8 mph, humidity 71% - Saturday clear with periodic clouds (46°F-55°F), Sunday mostly sunny (51°F-70°F), Monday mostly sunny (61°F-81°F), Tuesday scattered showers (53°F-72°F)
[01:20:34] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[01:20:39] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, me
[01:20:46] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 56°F, clear, wind NE at 11 mph, humidity 34% - Saturday clear with periodic clouds (38°F-66°F), Sunday sunny (44°F-71°F), Monday partly cloudy (51°F-78°F), Tuesday sunny (43°F-66°F)
[01:20:47] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 41°F, mostly cloudy, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 96% - Saturday partly cloudy (41°F-52°F), Sunday mostly sunny (44°F-62°F), Monday sunny (57°F-73°F), Tuesday scattered showers (47°F-72°F)
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[01:21:05] <Bytram> ~weather McMurdo Station
[01:21:07] <exec> 03McMurdo, Antarctica - currently -10°F, partly cloudy, wind S at 7 mph, humidity 65% - Sunday partly cloudy (-12°F--9°F), Monday mostly sunny (-16°F--10°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (-16°F--15°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (-9°F--3°F)
[01:21:34] <Bytram> cool! ;)
[01:21:43] <Bytram> ~weather nome, ak
[01:21:45] <exec> 03Nome, AK, USA - currently 28°F, partly cloudy, wind SW at 15 mph, humidity 88% - Saturday clear (29°F-31°F), Sunday sunny (31°F-37°F), Monday partly cloudy (30°F-42°F), Tuesday sunny (29°F-42°F)
[01:21:56] <Bytram> ~weather miami
[01:21:57] <exec> 03Miami, FL, USA - currently 75°F, cloudy, wind NE at 11 mph, humidity 54% - Saturday partly cloudy (71°F-81°F), Sunday partly cloudy (72°F-81°F), Monday cloudy (71°F-81°F), Tuesday thunderstorm (71°F-81°F)
[01:22:25] <Bytram> not much variation on THAT one
[01:22:54] * Bytram steps out for a moment to make dinner
[01:28:49] <cmn32480> sorry badcoderfinger... had to put my kids to bed
[01:28:59] <cmn32480> GPS is helpful
[01:29:10] * Bytram hopes it was not in a flower bed
[01:29:11] <cmn32480> it is the time zone thign that really screws with me
[01:29:22] * Bytram especially hopes it was not a river bed
[01:29:29] <cmn32480> bytram: mulch blankets are warm
[01:29:36] <Bytram> LOL!
[01:29:49] <Bytram> cmn32480: good to 'see' you! How you holding up?
[01:30:21] <cmn32480> long as I got a decent beer (or Firefly Lemonade Vodka) to lean on, I'm doing OK
[01:30:30] <cmn32480> happily, my trip this week got cancelled.
[01:30:51] <cmn32480> I might actually sleep in my own bed for 10 days straight
[01:31:10] <Bytram> I understand the feeling... sometimes I just need to step away from things for a bit and "let the echoes die off"
[01:31:28] <cmn32480> preciely
[01:31:38] <cmn32480> *precisely
[01:31:52] <cmn32480> too many airplanes lately
[01:31:59] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:32:11] * Bytram kinda misses those days, in a nostalgic sense
[01:32:30] <Bytram> there's nothing like going to sleep in your own bed, though.
[01:32:46] <cmn32480> I figured that out on the way home from ATL on Thursday when they took FOREVER in security because all the sunday travelers were out
[01:33:23] <cmn32480> yeah man my own bed. next to my own wife.
[01:33:26] <Bytram> "Sunday drives" take to the skies
[01:33:33] <Bytram> s/es/ers/
[01:33:33] <sedctl> <Bytram> "Sunday drivers" take to the skies
[01:33:43] <Bytram> and leave their directional on, too
[01:33:55] <cmn32480> the problem is that they don't listen
[01:34:01] <Bytram> what?
[01:34:12] <Bytram> =)
[01:34:20] <cmn32480> TSA tells you to empty your pockets, remove your belt, phone, etc. and put it all in your carry-on bag
[01:34:35] <cmn32480> you shoudl be running 3 thigns through the xray
[01:34:37] <cmn32480> shoes
[01:34:41] <cmn32480> carry on
[01:34:44] <cmn32480> laptop
[01:34:57] <BadCoderFinger> It's a good argument for sending your stuff ahead via Fedex.
[01:34:57] <cmn32480> pick them up on the other side an move out of the way
[01:35:25] <cmn32480> there are benches to get dressed at. Don't do it by the stupid conveyor
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[01:35:31] <cmn32480> not the laptop
[01:35:36] <Bytram> most of my flights were before the tsa got into the mix
[01:35:45] <cmn32480> like my American Express. Don't leave home w/o it
[01:35:53] <Bytram> ayuh
[01:35:56] <BadCoderFinger> Well, yes, that's a tough one. Get a static IP at home, and a crappy netbook to travel with.
[01:36:08] <cmn32480> I'm at the point where I have to get precheck and be done wiht the unwashed masses
[01:36:09] <Bytram> brb
[01:36:09] <ciri> lol weak bladder Bytram
[01:36:50] <cmn32480> the laptop belongs to work, and the software on it is required for the job.
[01:37:12] <cmn32480> ciri: who wrote you
[01:39:46] <Bytram> I gave up with ciri a long time ago and set my IRC client to ignore anything from it
[01:40:06] <chromas> poor ciri
[01:41:06] <cmn32480> meh she deserves it
[01:41:24] <chromas> ciri loves you
[01:41:52] <cmn32480> ciri is an ignorant piece of code
[01:42:23] <cmn32480> thankfully LaDarius has left us
[01:42:33] <Bytram> have either of you seen 'Ex Machina"
[01:42:47] <cmn32480> not I, sir
[01:43:01] * Bytram tries to remember one of the character's names
[01:43:14] <Bytram> highly recommended!
[01:43:22] <BadCoderFinger> Nope, me neither. The commercial looked like I might watch it.
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[01:43:52] <cmn32480> http://www.imdb.com
[01:43:54] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Ex Machina (2015) - IMDb
[01:44:20] <Bytram> a couple of artistic license decisions in there (IMNSHO), but a quite well-done sci fi story.
[01:44:48] <BadCoderFinger> A rare feat indeed for a movie.
[01:44:49] <Bytram> I'll not spoil the plot, but the lead actress was *phenomenally* convincing
[01:44:51] <cmn32480> there has to be some artistic license. Otherwise the story might not fit in the neat and tidy time frame they need
[01:45:00] <Bytram> they didn't dumb down the science, either
[01:45:08] <Bytram> uhg... laundry calls, brb
[01:45:08] <cmn32480> that' is more impressive
[01:45:28] <cmn32480> I can only hope it isn't poopy underwear
[01:45:44] <BadCoderFinger> More bleach! More bleach!
[01:45:57] <cmn32480> there ain't enough bleach in the world my firend
[01:47:27] <BadCoderFinger> Send them to the sun?
[01:48:17] <BadCoderFinger> Bloody postage will kill you, though.
[01:49:15] <cmn32480> I got 3 kids under 6. We still see them on occassion
[01:49:25] <cmn32480> it stinks
[01:49:28] <cmn32480> literally
[01:51:08] <BadCoderFinger> Ugh, why is aspx still legal?
[01:52:11] <cmn32480> for the same reason they allow windows boxes to connect to the internet at all
[01:52:16] <cmn32480> marketshare
[01:53:57] <Bytram> back
[01:54:17] <cmn32480> was it poopy underoos bytram?
[01:54:24] <Bytram> nope
[01:54:34] <cmn32480> lucky!
[01:54:42] <Bytram> I guess you gotta make your own
[01:54:48] <cmn32480> that is always a possibility in my house
[01:54:49] <Bytram> sorry I couldn't help ya out there.
[01:54:52] <Bytram> ;)
[01:56:02] <cmn32480> thanks... my kids help just as much as they can
[01:59:47] <cmn32480> oooo somebody either deleted or put all the spam on hold
[01:59:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 787 Software Bug Can Shut Down Planes' Generators. - http://sylnt.us - shutdown-and-restart
[02:00:11] <Bytram> nice.
[02:00:14] <cmn32480> wasn't me
[02:00:30] <BadCoderFinger> So flying becomes even more joyful.
[02:00:40] <cmn32480> deleted
[02:00:44] <Bytram> I was thinking of moving them to hold, but wanted to make sure paulej72 knew about it before doing so.
[02:00:48] <cmn32480> they aren't in the hold queue
[02:00:54] <Bytram> huh?
[02:00:58] * Bytram goes to look
[02:01:04] <cmn32480> I left him a note in editorial this mornign when it started
[02:02:18] <Bytram> looks like pj is on it... looking at the list of editors at the bottom of the submissions page, I saw this:
[02:02:18] <Bytram> paulej72 19m / CnmKuyafiHgGBK
[02:02:34] <Bytram> which suggests he was looking at one of them, at least
[02:02:40] <Bytram> hth
[02:02:45] <Bytram> paulej72++
[02:02:45] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 153
[02:02:48] <Bytram> paulej72++
[02:02:48] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 154
[02:03:51] <cmn32480> oddly enough, the website linked to in the spam was an actual site.
[02:06:00] <Bytram> may have been, but was it loaded with, say, malware javascript or the like?
[02:06:51] <cmn32480> don't know. I didn't bother to look at the logs on the junk VM i used to check it.
[02:07:03] <cmn32480> I have a VM that I keep for exactly this kind of stuff
[02:07:27] <cmn32480> it gets reloaded from a snapshot as soon as I look at the site to see if it is legit
[02:08:20] <Bytram> nice idea! Unfortunately, my box is not up to running a VM. Probably need a better proc and certainly need more memory.
[02:08:37] <Bytram> a faster disk would help a lot, too.
[02:09:15] * Bytram reloads https://dev.soylentnews.org
[02:09:16] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is secured dead goaste
[02:09:44] * Bytram sees if he can reproduce a bug by adding a comment to: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[02:09:45] <InfoSphere> ^ 03SN (dev) article: utf-8 char test - direct character entry -
[02:10:57] <cmn32480> my vm is on a server at work. vlan straight to the interweb, never touches my private network.
[02:11:21] <Bytram> very nice!
[02:13:31] <cmn32480> when you have the resources....
[02:13:46] <cmn32480> sweet... I knew office still had to ahve the multi item clipboard!
[02:13:50] <cmn32480> WOO HO!
[02:15:02] <Bytram> is that like "Land ho!" ??
[02:15:15] * Bytram wonders who be WOOing you.
[02:15:52] <cmn32480> I missed an O
[02:15:57] <cmn32480> should ahve been WOO HOO!
[02:16:03] <cmn32480> like Homer Simpson
[02:16:22] * Bytram reproduced the bug; still not fixed. Entered U+0010 .. U+001f as text in a comment, got a server internal error...
[02:16:23] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[02:16:24] <InfoSphere> ^ 03SN (dev) comment by [02martyb (76)] (02Score:2)
[02:16:39] <cmn32480> my wife I hope would be wooing me... <wink> <wink> <nudge><nudge>
[02:16:59] <Bytram> knwo what I mean, eh?
[02:17:14] * Bytram is tired and finding it hard to type correctly
[02:17:19] <cmn32480> me too
[02:17:31] <cmn32480> I'm workign on a report from a job that will end up right aroun 600 pages
[02:17:32] <Bytram> cmn32480: are you home, or still on the road?
[02:17:37] * juggs jiggles
[02:17:45] <cmn32480> WOO HOO!
[02:17:50] <juggs> :P
[02:17:51] * Bytram suggets that cmn32480 try triple-spacing
[02:17:53] <cmn32480> I like it when juggs jiggle
[02:18:19] * Bytram wonders if cmn32480 has seen juggs
[02:18:24] <cmn32480> why? so it get to be 1800 pages???? forget that!
[02:18:39] <cmn32480> maybe not our juggs
[02:18:43] <Bytram> oh, I thought the length was predetermined...
[02:18:48] <cmn32480> but I like when juggs jiggle in general
[02:18:53] <BadCoderFinger> Heh
[02:18:59] <Bytram> in that case, you could do: p {font-size: 2pt}
[02:19:09] <Bytram> that should save some trees
[02:19:10] <cmn32480> and use a microsopce to read it
[02:19:12] <Bytram> :P
[02:19:17] <BadCoderFinger> There's a whole bunch of the internet devoted to juggs jiggling.
[02:19:19] <cmn32480> it'll liekly NEVER get printed
[02:19:32] <cmn32480> really BadCoderFinger?
[02:19:38] <cmn32480> I'll have to investigate
[02:19:59] * Bytram imagines 1.2 reams of paper coming out of a printer and shudders
[02:20:04] <BadCoderFinger> I used to work for a search engine company. You see things you can't unsee.
[02:20:44] <cmn32480> some of it is boiler plate. but a lot is the page devoted to each reader that we are talking about installing
[02:21:03] <cmn32480> 281 readers, 1 page with settings, 1 page with maps per reader
[02:21:06] * Bytram remembers seeing a hex dump of memory on an IBM mainframe 32 MB took well over 1000 pages
[02:21:07] <juggs> mrcoolbp, I'm going to put a ZNC walkthrough on wiki for onboarding new staffers to ZNC. It's hellish time consuming doing it one on one. So I figure, do the walkthrough once, then it should just be a case of doing login credentials and pointing at the walkthrough. Measure twice, cut once or some such unrelated wisdom.
[02:21:38] <cmn32480> I thoguht that was measure once cut twice?
[02:21:47] <Bytram> juggs: measure with a micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with an axe.
[02:21:57] <cmn32480> no wonder my carpentry sucks...
[02:22:06] <Bytram> that's how it's actually done in the field, unfortuantely.
[02:22:14] <Bytram> or so I've been told
[02:22:41] <chromas> you could make a znc tutorial video
[02:22:44] <chromas> SoylentTutes
[02:23:13] * Bytram envisions a flute with bright red stuff coming out of the fingerings
[02:23:24] <Bytram> wold prolly make an interesting scene in a slasher movie
[02:23:41] <juggs> Bytram, you give me nightmares. I was just watching some auto fixup vids on YT.... in the suggested vids came "How to carve a spoon with an axe" - just... what? Just what situation do you have to be in where all you have is an axe and you urgently need a spoon?
[02:24:47] <Bytram> juggs: I suspect it might occur when you realize you are short one place setting and you invited paul bunyan
[02:25:27] <Bytram> juggs: otoh, how much of this tutorial might already exist on the 'net?
[02:25:42] <BadCoderFinger> So you have a can opener, a can of soup, a bit of wood, and an axe. Go!
[02:25:50] <Bytram> might be able to borrow, or at least refer to, something that's already out there, instead of having to write it all from scratch
[02:26:13] <crutchy> ++coffee
[02:26:13] <InfoSphere> Karma - coffee: 254
[02:26:14] <crutchy> coffee++
[02:26:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1338
[02:26:29] <Bytram> ++(++coffee)
[02:26:29] <InfoSphere> Karma - (++coffee): 1
[02:26:49] <Bytram> --(++coffee++--)
[02:26:49] <InfoSphere> Karma - (++coffee++--): -1
[02:26:54] <Bytram> --(++coffee++)
[02:26:54] <InfoSphere> Karma - (++coffee++): -1
[02:27:10] <crutchy> ~say coffee++ | ~say ++coffee
[02:27:11] <exec> coffee++
[02:27:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1339
[02:27:26] <crutchy> derp. triggered anti-spam :/
[02:27:37] <juggs> Bytram, bits and pieces here and there. It's probably only an hour's work to do it from scratch - probably take longer copy/pasta'ing from multiple sources and amending to fit.
[02:27:41] * Bytram shudders to think what kind of parser you got to sort THAT input out!
[02:27:54] <Bytram> juggs: nod nod;
[02:28:06] <Bytram> if it would help, I expect I still have a log of when you set me up.
[02:28:23] <cmn32480> shouldn't it be juggs: jiggle jiggle?
[02:28:46] <Bytram> I suspect there's prolly some details that should be redacted
[02:29:12] <juggs> Bytram, such as?
[02:29:37] <Bytram> I can't think of anything off-hand... I was exhausted at the time, but just wanted to call it to attention, just in case
[02:30:39] <Bytram> then again, I just realized *you* set *me* up with znc, so you prolly have a log, already!
[02:30:48] <juggs> Oh - in the midst of that particular discussion, yeh, there may have been a password or two perhaps. Server details and ports.. not so much.
[02:30:48] * Bytram must be more tired than he realizes.
[02:30:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:31:13] <Bytram> I think you *were* circumspect about what needed to be done.
[02:31:41] <Bytram> I just remember a time when I was trying to help someone reproduce a but here, and I pasted some cookies to the channel... OOPS!
[02:31:49] <Bytram> s/bbut/bug/
[02:31:53] <Bytram> s/but/bug/
[02:31:53] <sedctl> <Bytram> I just remember a time when I was trying to help someone reproduce a bug here, and I pasted some cookies to the channel... OOPS!
[02:33:35] <juggs> I seem to remember someone posting an SN user's email address in channel at one point. Definitely not good form and the poster was suitably mortified. Just goes to show.. we all fuck up :)
[02:33:39] * chromas goes a log huntin' fer cookies
[02:33:54] <chromas> I remember that too
[02:34:17] * Bytram had only posted the cookie for SN, and when advised of the error of his ways, quickly logged off and back in so that it was no longer valid.
[02:34:51] <Bytram> actaully, it wasn't cookies, it was a log of HTTP headers when I was trying to access the site...it happened to include my cookie at the time.
[02:35:37] * Bytram is so happy someone pointed him to the "Self destructing cookies" addon for firefox
[02:35:41] <juggs> Oh noes - someone coulda hijacked your session!
[02:36:19] <Bytram> given that I have some privs above regular user, it *could* have been problematic in the wrong hands
[02:36:27] <juggs> nod
[02:36:47] <juggs> Lucky chromas missed it - he's ebil!
[02:36:53] <juggs> :D
[02:37:07] * Bytram imagines the entire story queue being deleted, and then all of the users, too.
[02:37:11] * Bytram shudders
[02:37:42] <juggs> Oookay... who is chromasss ?
[02:37:52] <Bytram> or, worse yet, all stories except those fropm the past two weeks, and every 20th or so user
[02:38:04] * juggs pokes chromasss with a long stick
[02:38:35] * chromasss accepts juggss tick
[02:38:42] <juggs> Bytram, how long have you been doing QA?
[02:38:57] <chromasss> I was trying out weechat and forgot about it in a terminal
[02:39:15] <Bytram> first professional experience was in '82
[02:39:23] <Bytram> or thereabouts
[02:39:51] <juggs> That figures. You got "worst case scenario" right down. :D
[02:40:06] <Bytram> chromas: what a missed opportunity for a name: Wheeeeeeeechat!
[02:40:18] <Bytram> !woop
[02:40:19] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
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[02:40:40] <Bytram> .op
[02:40:40] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Bytram] by Imogen
[02:40:44] <Bytram> .kick martyB
[02:40:44] -!- martyB was kicked from #Soylent by Imogen!Imogen@imogen.dusty.attic [(Bytram (martyb)) No reason given]
[02:40:49] <Bytram> .deop
[02:40:49] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o Bytram] by Imogen
[02:40:59] * juggs jiggles
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[02:41:21] <Bytram> ROFL!!!!!!!!
[02:41:34] <juggs> You can .kick with just voice Bytram no need to .op
[02:41:48] <chromas> or /cs kick #Soylent nick
[02:41:53] <chromas> that way nobody knows who did it
[02:41:57] <Bytram> thanks for the info... but it did add an element of suspense, I suspect
[02:41:59] <cmn32480> wait. first professional experience was '82?
[02:42:03] <juggs> .kick kickee
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[02:42:05] <Bytram> nod
[02:42:19] <cmn32480> good gravy
[02:42:26] <cmn32480> I was still in diapers
[02:42:26] <Bytram> why?
[02:42:26] <juggs> I fell young again
[02:42:30] <juggs> feel*
[02:42:39] * Bytram backs away towards th edoor
[02:43:00] * juggs notes the edoor has lost power
[02:44:25] <Bytram> I've done testing on two operating system, a compiler, a boatload of applications, a CASE tool, some web stuff, and, oh yeah, I've done development, too.
[02:45:18] * Bytram just turns the doorknob and steps outside, very carefully.
[02:45:36] <Bytram> then there was the custom PBX that I helped test, too.
[02:45:43] <juggs> I don't think I have heard the term CASE for... um.. a long time. Is it still a thing?
[02:46:12] <Bytram> oh yeah, and a couple data warehouses, too.
[02:46:28] <Bytram> doubtful. I'm suprised you even recognize it!
[02:46:48] <Bytram> DFD, DMD, ERM, any of those ring a bell?
[02:47:12] * chromas found the cookie
[02:47:18] <Bytram> back in the day, they were a *big* thing... several $k per seat
[02:47:29] <cmn32480> CASE are mostly called RAD tools now
[02:47:29] <Bytram> does it make you taller or smaller?
[02:47:44] <Bytram> nod nod
[02:47:59] <cmn32480> they certainly still exist. plenty of them in the mobile workd
[02:48:03] <Bytram> that reminds me, I tested an automated test tool, and ClearCase, too.
[02:48:03] <cmn32480> *world
[02:48:52] <Bytram> the key thing in all of that, looking back on it, was the multiple levels of indirection and abstraction that I needed to be able to keep in my head all at the same time.
[02:49:20] <Bytram> it'sone thing when it all works... it's quite another when something is broken, and trying to fin dout where in the whole heirarchy something is going wrong
[02:49:41] <chromas> <cough>slash</cough>
[02:50:23] <Bytram> that job back in the early 80's... was testing the IBM VM/SP operating system... at times I was testing specific features that were implemented to improved performace of a 3rd level VM.
[02:50:42] <Bytram> that's a VM running in a VM running in a VM on bare hardware.
[02:51:01] <Bytram> there were abstractions to improve performance that took liberties with the abstractions.
[02:52:09] <Bytram> atone point, I was looking at memory dump displayed on a monitor, in hex, and deciphering opcodes and operands from the different VMs
[02:52:25] <cmn32480> great googly moogly
[02:52:26] <Bytram> while they were running... single-stepping a main-frame is pretty neat.
[02:52:45] <Bytram> especially when it costs umpteen $million
[02:52:46] <cmn32480> I think Bytram was the guy on the other end of the MAtrix!
[02:52:51] <juggs> ERM rings a bell (Enterprise Resource Management??). DFD, DMD - not ringing any bells.
[02:53:22] <juggs> I think CASE came up when I was at uni
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[02:53:42] <Bytram> btw, there were only 2 of them in the world at the time... the current prototype under development in hardware, and the one we used which had the (mostly) stable rev for us to test our OS on.
[02:53:45] <chromas> Bytram would have found the Lockout Changes switch on the WOPR
[02:54:05] <Bytram> yeah, it was labeled: BFG2000
[02:54:19] <Bytram> <grin>
[02:54:47] <Bytram> did I mention I did some programming on an IMSAI 8080?
[02:55:04] <Bytram> yep, just like the one that mathew broderick used in that movie
[02:55:25] <Bytram> dual 8-inch floppies! woo hoo!
[02:55:54] <Bytram> nograb
[02:56:33] * chromas only had dual 5¼" floppies
[02:56:57] <cmn32480> what's a floppy?
[02:57:19] * cmn32480 laughs at the old people
[02:57:58] * Bytram once made use of a Compaq portable with a 20MB hard disk, a 5 1/4 floppy, DOS 3.0 (I think) and its built-in (maybe 9-inch) monochrome monitor.
[02:58:00] <chromas> hey, I was 0 when that movie came out
[02:58:08] <Bytram> and it weighed in at about 25 pounds
[02:58:17] <cmn32480> my dad had one of those at Bell LAbs
[02:58:33] <Bytram> your dad worked at the labs? Nice!
[02:58:34] <cmn32480> I remember playing chess on it when he woudl bring it home.
[02:58:36] <juggs> Bytram, what's your take on the current "Hyper-convergence" trend? That is bringing all the storage onto the same chassis as the compute nodes i.e. moving away from vaguely remote FibreChannel and iSCSI storage in its own racks. I just see the wheel going around again, both with functional separation and virtualisation and containerisation.
[02:59:16] <Bytram> the speed of light is not infinite.
[02:59:30] <Bytram> as much as reasonably possible, keep the processor near the data it is working on
[02:59:48] <Bytram> caches help, but can't do everything
[03:00:03] <chromas> soon we'll have parallel SATA too, 'cause it's faster
[03:00:12] <Bytram> what the abstractions help with is maintainability and [re]deployment
[03:01:15] <Bytram> if an application is running slow, these days it's relatively easy to spin up more procs or add on more storage, etc.
[03:01:34] <juggs> For sure. The ability to spin up a virtualised machine or container on disparate hardware is great. The hardware becomes commodity.
[03:01:36] <Bytram> back in the day, that would be a major undertaking with scheduled downtime and major impact on operations.
[03:02:30] <Bytram> Tandem did a lot to lessen the impact as you could pull and/or add boards while the system was running... everything was hot-swapable
[03:03:20] <Bytram> I can still remember clear as day watching a rep pull a processor board from a running system and see the system carry on without even a hickup.
[03:03:57] <Bytram> he put the board back in and then pulled a network card and then a memory card and so on
[03:04:11] <cmn32480> scare you the first tiem he did it?
[03:04:14] <chromas> wish desktops could do that
[03:04:19] <Bytram> this, bnack in the day when you might fry memory with a random static shock
[03:04:55] <Bytram> it was like watching someone pull the engine from a car while it was competing in NASCAR or F1
[03:05:40] <Bytram> chromas: I'm sure there are some out there that can... but you prolly don't want to pay what they'd charging for 'em
[03:05:51] <Bytram> computers, that is.
[03:06:05] <chromas> damn, should've grabbes that
[03:06:11] <chromas> s/s/d/2
[03:06:11] <sedctl> <chromas> should've grabbed that
[03:06:13] <Bytram> fwiw, my very first bit of programming was back in '72
[03:06:17] <juggs> Right. And what we see now is an extension of the same thing. But the mainframe is no longer a mainframe it is scattered over many machines in many DCs - it doesn't matter if any of them just expire without warning.
[03:06:18] <cmn32480> you can't get that in commodity servers these days.
[03:06:27] <cmn32480> only the storage is hot swap
[03:06:48] * Bytram reminisces about the S100 bus.
[03:07:45] * Bytram hasn't really looked at system specs in quite a while
[03:08:54] <juggs> cmn32480, true, but if you can scale to cluster over multiple servers in multiple DCs at the logical level then redundancy in an individual physical server becomes irrelevant. No need for redundant PSUs etc.
[03:08:57] * Bytram nervously glances at his laptop on which he is typing this, which in 9 days will celbrate it's 10th birthday.
[03:09:30] <chromas> did it come with vista?
[03:09:34] <cmn32480> juggs, you are correct. "the cloud"
[03:09:43] * juggs vomits
[03:09:51] <Bytram> the 'server' becomes the unit of commodity, only use the part of it that you need
[03:10:02] <Bytram> chromas: no, XP/SP1
[03:10:14] <cmn32480> the problem happens when you are in the SMB market (where I make my paycheck), and the resources aren't there for that kind on infrastructure, or people don't wanna put the data where tehy can't put their hands on it
[03:10:23] <juggs> You do have backups right Bytram?
[03:10:30] <Bytram> daily
[03:10:35] <chromas> he backs up to soylent now
[03:10:46] <Bytram> not on THIS internet connection!
[03:10:56] <cmn32480> he does it on the other one
[03:11:09] <Bytram> tethered phone at (max) 100KB/sec
[03:11:37] <cmn32480> just enough for IRC.... yeesh
[03:11:49] <Bytram> technically 920kbit/sec is the max connection speed
[03:12:53] <juggs> cmn32480, I hear you. SMB is tough to get the right solution for. It was 15 years ago when I ventured there, I'm sure nothing has changed when it comes to budget and risk taking.
[03:13:08] <cmn32480> roll the dice
[03:13:38] <Bytram> cmn32480: are these standard desktop sized boxes you install, or rack systems?
[03:13:52] <cmn32480> my company (where I manage the IT) is currently running on a single server running 6 VM's.
[03:14:03] <cmn32480> desktops at the desk
[03:14:03] <Bytram> oh. ouch.
[03:14:07] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:14:12] <cmn32480> rack mount in the server room
[03:14:31] <cmn32480> it is coming up on end of service in July
[03:14:41] * Bytram was thinking of maybe mounting a half-dozen 1U servers and making them into a 'cloud' resource.
[03:15:02] <cmn32480> I got the owners to buy a new VRTX system from Dell
[03:15:15] <cmn32480> 4 blades, shared storage and a 10GB NIC
[03:15:26] <Bytram> not familiar with the line, but I assume it's an improvement (and hopefully significant one, at that)
[03:15:29] <cmn32480> between the stroage and the servers
[03:15:49] <Bytram> it does comms?
[03:15:58] <cmn32480> HUGE improvement
[03:16:02] <Bytram> oh, it virtualizes the storage?
[03:16:31] <Bytram> oh, I just now saw your description a few lines back
[03:16:34] <Bytram> sweet!
[03:16:40] <cmn32480> disk array w/ hardware RAID then portioned out as desired by VMWare
[03:17:02] * Bytram has not heard many good things about hardware raid
[03:17:23] <Bytram> they're fine when they work, but can be, umm, "troublesome" when something goes wrong
[03:17:29] <juggs> Back then (at refresh time), I went with thin clients pulling their desktop from a W2K server over RDP - putting in thin clients over full desktops clawed back enough to put a second server in for replication and backup. I shudder to think about it now - 4 remote sites relied on DSL links to get RDP from the main office. I'm going to file that under "that was a long time ago" and try to sleep sound.
[03:17:56] <Bytram> LOL
[03:17:56] <cmn32480> really? most every server in the commodity market uses it
[03:18:17] <cmn32480> shoot, I think the last AS/400 I worked on had it as well
[03:18:30] <cmn32480> the problem is hte RAID level that you choose
[03:18:40] <Bytram> maybe I've just been lintening in on other circles than you.
[03:18:40] <cmn32480> 1 hot spare disk is NOT enough
[03:19:00] <cmn32480> 1 hot spare is RAID 5
[03:19:06] <Bytram> software raid is less sensitive to hardware versions of the controller and of the disk drives
[03:19:33] <cmn32480> agreed. but the issue with software RAID is often it is only readable by the machine that built it
[03:19:47] <juggs> ?
[03:19:59] <Bytram> are the drives from the same batch? If so, there is a know likelihood that when one dies, and you're trying to rebuild the spare, another one goes and then another and you end up DOA
[03:20:17] * juggs whacks Bytram
[03:20:52] <Bytram> cmn32480: I don't follow. software raid, I've heard, is the one that is less sensitive to hardware versions.
[03:21:58] <Bytram> then again, this is only from what I've read and heard. don't have first-hand experience.
[03:21:58] <cmn32480> when you run software RAID, if you have a massive failure of some component, and you have to put the entire array in another machine, there are some pretty slim odds of getting it to read correctly
[03:22:39] <cmn32480> hardware RAID, as long as you replace with a compatible card (say a Dell PERC4 fails and you go to a PERC5) it'll work
[03:22:57] <Bytram> that could well be... I was talking about the case when a drive dies, and if you don't replace it with the exact same card, controller, etc., you may be SOL
[03:23:06] <juggs> If you are doing hardware RAID, keep spare cards or MB's on the shelf so as not to get caught out by "not supported any more". Software RAID used to be shunned due to performance issues - not really an issue anymore.
[03:23:19] <cmn32480> not anymore Bytram
[03:23:21] <Bytram> like I said, that's from what I've heard... and it may be out-of-date info at this point
[03:23:34] <Bytram> well, so nice to hear THAT!
[03:23:36] <cmn32480> as long as the disk is the same size or larger you are off to the races
[03:23:36] <Bytram> yay!@
[03:24:07] <Bytram> ok, I be needing some sleep
[03:24:13] <Bytram> good chatting with ya all!
[03:24:14] <juggs> cmn32480, have you actually had a Dell PERC card go out on you?
[03:24:29] <juggs> sleep well Bytram
[03:24:33] <cmn32480> once. adn I almost ppoped my pants Juggs
[03:24:44] <cmn32480> night Bytram. great taling to you as always
[03:25:15] <Bytram> if anyone sees NCommander, pls let him know that i was still able to reproduce the UTF-8 bug on dev when I used chars from U+0010 .. U+001F in a comment that I was trying to post as HTML Formatted
[03:25:20] <cmn32480> my system was under a 4 hour contract when it happened.
[03:25:40] <Bytram> 4-hour contract?
[03:26:38] <Bytram> cmn32480: does that mean the system must be down no more than 4 hours or there are penalties?
[03:27:03] <juggs> Ach my experience with Dell PERC is well over a decade old. It didn't end well. Had to restore from tape. I have no idea about the current state of play there, so I'll just stfu :)
[03:27:05] <cmn32480> it means that after remote diagnosis, they will ahve a tech on site in 4 hours or less with the appropriate parts
[03:27:29] <Bytram> ah. got it!
[03:27:43] <cmn32480> I don't be lieve that Dell does penalties, not like you would find form an IBM contract
[03:28:08] <cmn32480> that is the difference between a $25k server and a $250k server
[03:28:25] <Bytram> umm, $225k
[03:28:46] <cmn32480> don't get snarky bytram!
[03:28:48] <Bytram> hmmm, and if the 'appropriate' parts end up being inappropriate, (while the actual appropriate one is on its way?)
[03:28:56] <cmn32480> right
[03:29:07] <cmn32480> niver had it happen, but I assume it does
[03:29:54] <Bytram> so the price difference is, effectively, having someone else you can blame when things still don't come back up?
[03:30:35] <cmn32480> no, IBM has a penalty clause built inot their contracts. Dell does not.
[03:31:10] <cmn32480> But in the rare instances where I have had Dell onsite to work on a server, they have never taken longer than 4 hours, and they have basically had every part that my server was shipped wiht in the trunk
[03:31:15] <Bytram> so, in that case, why not get 5*$25k systems for $125k, beowolf them, and save $125k?
[03:31:38] <cmn32480> operating system
[03:31:40] <Bytram> very nice. I'm more of a software guy.
[03:32:00] <Bytram> we're geting out of sync here. :/
[03:32:06] <cmn32480> IBM done't give away AIX, or OS/400 to run on other hardware
[03:32:16] <Bytram> LOL, that's for sure!
[03:32:33] * Bytram was around when they went from open source to closed source for their VM OS
[03:32:36] <cmn32480> and last I checked the pickings from IBM for $25k were pretty slim
[03:32:46] <Bytram> yuppers
[03:32:57] <Bytram> was just working off your example.
[03:33:07] <Bytram> ok. brain is starting to cramp up.
[03:33:13] <Bytram> g'night all!
[03:33:16] <cmn32480> get some rest.
[03:33:28] <Bytram> and the same to you, my friend!
[03:33:31] <Bytram> ttfn
[03:34:12] * juggs jiggles some lavender onto Bytram's pillow
[03:35:10] <juggs> I'm tired of jiggling I need a new nick
[03:36:09] <cmn32480> hooter?
[03:37:25] <juggs> I'll leave the suggestions open
[03:52:32] <chromas> F-Cup
[04:01:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Pioneer Who Invented the Weather Forecast - http://sylnt.us - pioneers-should-have-guns-and-coonskin-caps
[04:10:33] <chromas> sounds racist
[04:10:36] <chromas> shottin' coons
[04:10:40] <chromas> s/t/o/
[04:10:40] <sedctl> <chromas> shootin' coons
[04:11:56] <cmn32480> alright kids... I've had enough fun for one day.
[04:12:11] <cmn32480> y'all have a good night. and I will likely see you in the morning
[04:12:19] <chromas> g'night
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[05:49:31] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO Hey, how's it going? I was on my way to the store when I ran into a person.
[05:49:31] <LaDarius> Hey, how's it going? I wuz on my way ta 'da sto' when I ran inta a person.
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[05:54:03] <LaDarius> This be really pimp-tight. When I go ta 'da sto' for some drank an' puff it be also pimp-tight.
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[06:03:00] <LaDarius> 'Da quick brown fox jumped over 'da lazy dog.
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[06:23:48] <SirFinkus> shitty hotel wifi
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[06:27:59] <SirFinkus> indication of my wifi speed
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[06:28:11] <Ethanol-fueled> !chimpout
[06:28:25] <SirFinkus> my photo is 30% uploaded now, it will explain it all
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[06:29:54] <Ethanol-fueled> !cpo
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[06:31:27] <Ethanol-fueled> !cpo
[06:31:46] <SirFinkus> halfway now, but the jpg is nearly 2.8MB
[06:32:13] <chromas> :(
[06:32:21] <chromas> just like dial-up
[06:32:36] <Ethanol-fueled> where you at, fink?
[06:32:36] <ciri> not sure Ethanol-fueled
[06:32:49] <SirFinkus> yeah, "high speed wifi" my ass
[06:32:52] <SirFinkus> bumfuck
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[06:33:03] <SirFinkus> worse than Australia
[06:33:10] <SirFinkus> as far as internet goes
[06:33:45] <Ethanol-fueled> so, Eastern Washington? Northeastern washington?
[06:34:00] <chromas> Maybe other people are using it; torrenting. see if you can boot them off
[06:34:08] <SirFinkus> unlikely
[06:34:19] <SirFinkus> you'll see when the picture finishes uploading
[06:34:32] <chromas> we're slowing it down by talking
[06:34:56] <SirFinkus> probably
[06:35:09] <SirFinkus> but we're like, 75% done
[06:35:32] <SirFinkus> I'm winding down on the drinking too
[06:36:14] * SirFinkus may have even had a few while driving
[06:37:01] <Ethanol-fueled> you can get away with that in those states.
[06:37:06] * SirFinkus is currently at the bottom of the hill this photo was taken at http://imgur.com
[06:37:07] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Imgur
[06:37:34] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[06:37:38] <SirFinkus> direct link
[06:37:41] <SirFinkus> sorry
[06:37:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[06:37:46] <chromas> hehe, downloads in 3 seconds
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[06:38:44] <Ethanol-fueled> !quit
[06:38:46] <SirFinkus> I'd upload pictures of the old mine and shit, but given it takes 15 minutes to upload a photo, I'll leave it to your imagination until later
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[06:39:06] <Ethanol-fueled> well, where the fuck are you?
[06:39:35] <SirFinkus> Washington
[06:39:42] <SirFinkus> near omak
[06:39:52] <Ethanol-fueled> oh, gotcha.
[06:39:52] <SirFinkus> in BFE near Omak
[06:39:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Omak is nice.
[06:40:06] <SirFinkus> as if omak isn't BFE enough
[06:40:08] <SirFinkus> is not
[06:40:13] <Ethanol-fueled> ...if you HATE PEOPLE. Bahaha.
[06:40:25] <SirFinkus> I have a few pictures of Omak
[06:41:00] <SirFinkus> almost a ghost town
[06:41:05] <SirFinkus> was there around noon
[06:41:12] <SirFinkus> walked all of downtown
[06:41:17] <SirFinkus> saw 7 people
[06:41:26] <Ethanol-fueled> probably all Canucks.
[06:41:26] <SirFinkus> it's almost a ghost town
[06:41:56] <SirFinkus> anyway, the picture I took doesn't do that view justic
[06:42:01] <SirFinkus> justice even
[06:42:25] <SirFinkus> it's fucking huge, incomprehensibly huge unless you've seen it
[06:42:35] <SirFinkus> and I've seen some shit
[06:43:34] <SirFinkus> but, I should probably go to bed now
[06:43:36] <SirFinkus> night
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[06:47:06] <Ethanol-fueled> !aa
[06:47:17] <Ethanol-fueled> !say fugg yah
[06:47:17] <LaDarius> fugg yah
[06:47:38] <chromas> !YO affter noon, good sirs
[06:47:38] <LaDarius> affter noon, good sirs
[06:47:48] <chromas> !YO afternoon, good sirs
[06:47:48] <LaDarius> afternoon, good sirs
[06:48:25] <Ethanol-fueled> new rule: s/"er "/"a "/g
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[06:48:58] <chromas> also /ing/in'/
[06:49:29] <Ethanol-fueled> good idea. added.
[06:49:47] <chromas> are you using regex or simple replace?
[06:50:11] <Ethanol-fueled> ugh, hate to admit this, but at this point using simple replace using parallel arrays.
[06:50:20] <chromas> bing_maps-- for not enough resolution to see into the women's dorm
[06:50:21] <Bender> karma - bing_maps: -1
[06:50:41] <chromas> well it should be a lot faster than regex though
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[06:51:11] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO sister mother talking stalking
[06:51:11] <LaDarius> sista motha talkin' stalking
[06:52:08] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO talking stalking walking balking
[06:52:08] <LaDarius> talkin' stalkin' walkin' balking
[06:52:21] <chromas> !YO no thank you, I'm not interested
[06:52:21] <LaDarius> no thank you, I'm not interested
[06:52:26] <chromas> > homie don't play dat
[06:52:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Hmm, it doesnt do the last word.
[06:53:17] <chromas> actually, the bing bird's-eye view is several years old around here :(
[06:53:25] <chromas> they need to talk to the nsa
[06:54:40] <Ethanol-fueled> new rule: no = naw
[06:54:44] <chromas> maps.nsa.gov
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[06:59:55] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO The NSA has been spying on us for far too long, and it is not a good thing because
[06:59:55] <LaDarius> 'Da NSA has spyin' on us for far too long, an' it be not a good thin' because
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[07:03:22] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO Because it is what's not cool to the American people, it is what it is and it has bad juju.
[07:03:22] <LaDarius> 'Cuz it be WUT's not pimp-tight ta 'da American people, it be WUT it be an' it bad juju.
[07:03:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask Soylent: How To Inform Domains by Proxy Customer Of Website Defacement? - http://sylnt.us - you-tell-me
[07:17:44] <Ethanol-fueled> !aa
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[07:18:35] <Ethanol-fueled> !aa
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[07:20:34] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO Is MichaelDavidCrawford a troll? If he is a subtle one? He is a weird friend.
[07:20:34] <LaDarius> Be MichaelDavidCrawford a troll? If he be a subtle one? He be a weird dawg.
[07:21:15] <chromas> !YO he is trolling
[07:21:15] <LaDarius> he be trolling
[07:21:20] <chromas> !YO he is trolling us
[07:21:20] <LaDarius> he be trollin' us
[07:21:34] <chromas> !YO I am trolling you
[07:21:34] <LaDarius> I am trollin' you
[07:21:46] <chromas> s/am/be/
[07:21:46] <sedctl> <chromas> !YO I be trolling you
[07:21:55] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO that's a bug to be worked out.
[07:21:55] <LaDarius> 'dat's a bug ta be worked out.
[07:22:31] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO trolling smacking thwacking, cracking
[07:22:31] <LaDarius> trollin' smackin' thwacking, cracking
[07:22:49] <Ethanol-fueled> maybe a time delay before each parse?
[07:22:57] <Ethanol-fueled> oh, the comma.
[07:23:10] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO trolling smacking thwacking cracking
[07:23:10] <LaDarius> trollin' smackin' thwackin' cracking
[07:23:34] <Ethanol-fueled> !Yo thwacking cracking trolling smacking
[07:23:49] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO thwacking cracking trolling smacking
[07:23:49] <LaDarius> thwackin' crackin' trollin' smacking
[07:23:49] <chromas> !YO we do not require any punctuation
[07:23:49] <LaDarius> we do not require any punctuation
[07:24:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, I know why.
[07:25:00] <chromas> !YO we do not require education
[07:25:00] <LaDarius> we do not require education
[07:25:06] <Ethanol-fueled> crude shit code.
[07:25:28] <Ethanol-fueled> !Yo oneing twoing threeing fouring fiveing sixing
[07:25:44] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO oneing twoing threeing fouring fiveing sixing
[07:25:44] <LaDarius> onein' twoin' threein' fourin' fivein' sixing
[07:25:57] <chromas> You could perhaps split the string on non-alpha-numerics (+apostrophe) then you'll have an array of words
[07:26:31] <chromas> with commas and stuff you can skip over but will be there for the join at the end
[07:26:43] <chromas> although that does ruin phrase detection
[07:27:32] <chromas> !YO I see my dad every day
[07:27:33] <LaDarius> I see my dad every day
[07:27:47] <Ethanol-fueled> new rule: every = erry
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[07:28:10] <chromas> actually, that string should just return a :'(
[07:29:00] <Ethanol-fueled> haha chromas.
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[07:29:28] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO I go to my daddy every day.
[07:29:28] <LaDarius> I go ta my daddy erry day.
[07:29:34] <chromas> !YO I purchased these shoes with the money I worked hard for
[07:29:34] <LaDarius> I purchased these shoes wit' 'da money I worked hard for
[07:29:57] <Ethanol-fueled> new rule: "these" = "Deez"
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[07:31:08] <chromas> work -> slave ; working -> slavin'
[07:31:12] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO I purchased these shoes with the money I worked hard for.
[07:31:12] <LaDarius> I purchased deez shoes wit' 'da money I worked hard for.
[07:31:29] <chromas> worked for -> be steelin'
[07:31:31] <chromas> or jacked
[07:31:43] <Ethanol-fueled> work = jack
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[07:31:56] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: how's it going?
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[07:32:34] <chromas> this is where dynamically filled arrays would come in handy
[07:32:37] <chromas> !YO I have a debt that I'm working off
[07:32:37] <LaDarius> I have a debt 'dat I'm jackin' off
[07:32:59] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss: having fun with babby's first IRC bot.
[07:33:18] <Ethanol-fueled> use the command !YO (case sensitive) to convert your message to ebonics.
[07:33:37] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO I was moving to the store to buy some drink and some smokes.
[07:33:37] <LaDarius> I wuz creepin' ta 'da sto' ta buy some drank an' some puffs.
[07:33:45] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: what's it written in
[07:33:51] <swiss> be careful with your answer
[07:33:51] <ciri> where you going? swiss
[07:33:56] <Ethanol-fueled> babby's first language - C#.
[07:33:58] <swiss> i wll heavily judge you
[07:34:01] <swiss> HEAVILY JUDGED
[07:34:06] <chromas> at least it's not python
[07:34:09] <Ethanol-fueled> a shitty and easy one.
[07:34:15] <swiss> chromas: i would prefer python
[07:34:16] <chromas> seems like most bots are python
[07:34:30] <swiss> rather than a language that has its roots in extrashittiness
[07:34:35] <chromas> I don't mind python; it's just that it's already got over 9,000 bots
[07:34:42] <swiss> gotta pick a language that makes it a challege
[07:34:47] <swiss> my first irc bot was in bash
[07:35:08] <swiss> cause fuck society
[07:35:13] <chromas> ~last nick=swiss message=github\.com
[07:35:15] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO Python is a bad language, and in a nutshell, it has does what it wants.
[07:35:15] <LaDarius> Python be a bad language, an' inna nutshell, it does WUT it wants.
[07:35:17] <exec> 03[2015-03-14 07:48:0] #Soylent <swiss> http://github.com
[07:35:34] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: are you using gizoogle?
[07:35:42] <Ethanol-fueled> indeed, swiss.
[07:35:55] <swiss> i did that for anime
[07:35:55] <chromas> !YO indeed
[07:35:55] <LaDarius> indeed
[07:35:58] <chromas> > fo shizzle
[07:36:25] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO Who the fuck uses the word "indeed" but White boys?
[07:36:25] <LaDarius> Who 'da fuck uses 'da word "indeed" but White boys?
[07:36:26] <swiss> shoulda wrote you bot in Go
[07:36:34] <swiss> Omar uses indeed
[07:36:47] <chromas> ~define moar
[07:36:49] <chromas> ~define omar
[07:36:49] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03moar: 1. A combination of "more" and "roar". 2. An order bellowed to a forum to remedy the bellower's insufficient pr0n collection. Usually accompanied by foaming at the mouth.
[07:36:51] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03omar: Strong, with honor, a leader. A middle eastern name given to someone who is loved by many, unique and a creator of new ideas. He also gets laid a lot and many women want him for the size of his cock.
[07:36:58] <swiss> https://www.youtube.com
[07:36:59] <chromas> I guess my fingers have dylsexia
[07:36:59] <InfoSphere> ^ 03S1E06 Omar Oh indeed - YouTube
[07:38:02] <swiss> https://youtu.be
[07:38:04] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Omar: Indeed - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[07:38:17] <swiss> INDEED
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[07:39:11] <chromas> indubitably
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[07:39:42] <Ethanol-fueled> !Yo indeed Indeed
[07:39:55] <chromas> !YO yo yo
[07:39:55] <LaDarius> yo yo
[07:39:57] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO indeed Indeed
[07:39:57] <LaDarius> a bitch in need is a bitch indeed! Indeed
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[07:40:47] <chromas> !YO trix are for chicks
[07:40:47] <LaDarius> trix are for chicks
[07:41:00] <Ethanol-fueled> new rule: for = "fo'"
[07:41:10] <chromas> are -> be
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[07:42:02] <swiss> !YO i do enjoy a nice drink on a saturday evening
[07:42:02] <LaDarius> i do enjoy a nice drank on a saturday evening
[07:42:14] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO For the love of god!
[07:42:14] <LaDarius> Fo' 'da love of god!
[07:42:32] <chromas> hm, need moare arrays
[07:42:38] <chromas> so you can do random picks
[07:42:54] <chromas> or maybe just each string can be | separated or something
[07:42:56] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, chromas. that's one of the items on the list.
[07:42:59] <Ethanol-fueled> synonyms.
[07:43:09] <chromas> that way you can random between drank and 40
[07:43:15] <Ethanol-fueled> yup.
[07:43:43] <Ethanol-fueled> and an interface for easily specifying rules.
[07:43:48] <chromas> for example, you could store it as drank|40, then split("|") then pick random
[07:44:09] <Ethanol-fueled> for example, "respond to if last message contains", etc.
[07:44:45] <chromas> !YO blunts, 40s and bitches
[07:44:45] <LaDarius> blunts, 40s an' bitches
[07:45:07] <Ethanol-fueled> string splits are so messy programatically. I'd rather use automagic methods like contains() then replace() and then randomize based on an array of synonym strings.
[07:45:31] <chromas> you just write another function
[07:45:58] <chromas> where you'd pass the array item and the function would split, pick random and return a string
[07:46:17] <chromas> now I kinda want to poke at c#
[07:46:39] <chromas> I like the delphi heritage, but not so much the C
[07:47:05] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, the "C" part of it is what makes it structured.
[07:47:32] <chromas> delphi is structured
[07:48:03] <Ethanol-fueled> !YO The C parts of it are what make it familiar to friends like me.
[07:48:03] <LaDarius> 'Da C parts of it are WUT make it familiar ta dawgs like me.
[07:48:33] <chromas> !YO Freddy Gray's family was expecting a structured settlement but didn't show up for court
[07:48:34] <LaDarius> Freddy Gray's family wuz expectin' a structured settlement but didn't show up fo' court
[07:50:08] <chromas> need some c# on linux but without the mono
[07:50:24] <swiss> just do it in C
[07:50:29] <swiss> why you need the sharp shit
[07:50:39] <chromas> 'cause it's like cooler 'n' shit
[07:50:40] <Ethanol-fueled> c# is awesome on Windows but on Linux you could just use java for pretty much the same shit.
[07:50:45] <chromas> gross
[07:50:47] <chromas> java--
[07:50:47] <Bender> karma - java: -27
[07:50:57] <Ethanol-fueled> of if you're a REAL programmer, C/C++
[07:51:19] <chromas> !YO java and xml are brother and sister but also bang each other from time to time
[07:51:19] <LaDarius> java an' xml are brotha an' sista but also bang each otha from time ta time
[07:51:38] <chromas> !YO by which I mean all the time
[07:51:38] <LaDarius> by which I mean all 'da time
[07:52:09] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: s/C.*/opcodes/
[07:52:09] <sedctl> <chromas> <Ethanol-fueled> of if you're a REAL programmer, opcodes
[07:52:45] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, opcodes if you enjoy having your testes stepped-on with stilletto heels.
[07:52:49] <chromas> !YO police
[07:52:50] <LaDarius> police
[07:53:19] <chromas> I saw this one steven segall movie where he's trying to act black like his costars and he actually says "po-po"
[07:53:35] <chromas> actually, I think all his latest movies were like that
[07:54:08] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: yeah, real programmers :)
[07:54:13] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, he was in Machete
[07:54:22] <chromas> I still haven't seen that
[07:54:27] * chromas hangs head in shame
[07:54:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Playing a hispanic. And he said, "Pinche Puto" like "Binche Buto."
[07:59:18] <chromas> oh, apparently yesterday was World Naked Gardening Day
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[08:00:14] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo this is bullshit, friend.
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[08:01:22] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo this is bullshit, friend.
[08:01:22] <LaDarius> dis' be bullshit, dawg.
[08:01:34] <Ethanol-fueled> okay, so !yo now works on lower case.
[08:01:50] <chromas> !yO and mixed case?
[08:02:08] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, not yet. I know how to do that but am too drunk/lazy now.
[08:02:17] <chromas> lol
[08:02:17] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[08:02:26] <chromas> need a drankin' bot
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[08:04:52] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo I need a drink.
[08:04:52] <LaDarius> 'Dis Nigga need a drank.
[08:05:17] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo Who am I?
[08:05:17] <LaDarius> Who am I?
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[08:05:33] <chromas> !yo who you be
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[08:06:45] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo who am I? I am Sam.
[08:06:45] <LaDarius> who be dis' nigga? dis' nigga be Sam.
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[08:09:40] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo I was moving through the streets when I saw my friend, and we were drinking and smoking and fighting before i got in my ride and we hollered at the women.
[08:09:40] <LaDarius> 'Dis Nigga wuz creepin' through 'da streets when Dis' nigga saw my dawg, an' we were drankin' an' puffin' an' fightin' before i got in my ride an' we hollered at 'da ho's.
[08:10:31] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo yes.
[08:10:31] <LaDarius> yes.
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[08:11:31] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo yes.
[08:11:31] <LaDarius> yes.
[08:11:38] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo yes
[08:11:38] <LaDarius> yes
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[08:12:24] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo yes
[08:12:24] <LaDarius> yiddy
[08:12:31] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo yesterday
[08:12:31] <LaDarius> yiddyterday
[08:18:42] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me!
[08:18:42] <LaDarius> ho, yo ho, a pirate's life fo' me!
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[08:21:17] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo this is no life for me.
[08:21:17] <LaDarius> dis' be naw life fo' 'dis nigga.
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[09:33:21] <JamesNZ> What's a short, witty way to phrase "What is the most important role for a project champion?" ?
[09:35:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Tyranny of Algorithmic Authoritarianism - http://sylnt.us - garbage-in-garbage-out
[10:40:04] <crutchy> how about "how can i waste the most money?"
[10:43:45] <JamesNZ> crutchy++ # Bingo!
[10:43:45] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 167
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[12:37:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - More Trouble at ICANN - http://sylnt.us - icann-do-it-yes-i-can
[13:20:03] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:20:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1340
[13:20:04] <crutchy> ++coffee
[13:20:04] <InfoSphere> Karma - coffee: 255
[14:39:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Statues of Assange, Snowden And Manning Go Up in Berlin - http://sylnt.us - fighting-tyranny
[14:52:55] <Bytram> !uid
[14:52:55] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5235, owned by skyrocketends
[14:53:37] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[14:53:39] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 56°F, partly cloudy, wind SE at 7 mph, humidity 60% - Sunday partly cloudy (50°F-70°F), Monday sunny (61°F-81°F), Tuesday scattered showers (55°F-71°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (52°F-75°F)
[14:53:40] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[14:53:42] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 49°F, partly cloudy, wind E at 7 mph, humidity 83% - Sunday partly cloudy (44°F-57°F), Monday mostly sunny (55°F-71°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (47°F-69°F), Wednesday sunny (46°F-67°F)
[14:53:45] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, me
[14:53:46] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 54°F, sunny, wind NE at 0 mph, humidity 45% - Sunday sunny (43°F-70°F), Monday mostly sunny (51°F-78°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (41°F-67°F), Wednesday mostly cloudy (34°F-61°F)
[14:53:56] <Bytram> oh yeh...
[14:53:59] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:53:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1341
[15:16:42] <Bytram> http://www.sciencedaily.com
[15:16:43] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Childhood bullying: Worse long-term mental health than maltreatment by adult -- ScienceDaily
[15:17:34] <Bytram> http://newsdaily.com
[15:17:34] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Jeff Bezos' rocket company test-flies suborbital spaceship | NewsDaily
[15:21:31] <Bytram> http://newsdaily.com
[15:21:32] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Professor in Texas fails entire class, school says no way -report | NewsDaily
[15:21:49] <Bytram> afk
[15:33:13] <CoolHand> ~weather Indianapolis, IN
[15:33:15] <exec> 03Indianapolis, IN, USA - currently 69°F / 21°C, cloudy, wind S at 10 mph, humidity 45% - Sunday partly cloudy (57°F-79°F / 14°C-26°C), Monday isolated thunderstorms (61°F-81°F / 16°C-27°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (61°F-82°F / 16°C-28°C), Wednesday mostly sunny (59°F-84°F / 15°C-29°C)
[15:52:55] <Bytram> https://blog.blocktrail.com
[15:52:56] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Getting your change in order | BlockTrail
[15:53:24] <Bytram> ^--"BitGo bug reveals patterns in Bitstamp transactions"
[15:57:11] * Bytram prepares to go in to work
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[17:11:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - When Enthusiasm for Free Software Turns Ugly - http://sylnt.us - can't-we-all-just-get-along
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[18:42:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Psychologists Met in Secret with Bush Officials to Help Justify Torture – Report - http://sylnt.us - what-about-the-Hippocratic-oath?
[18:52:04] <chromas> I read something similar awhile back, but it focused on two guys
[18:57:07] <chromas> two guys, one thousand tortures
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[19:13:03] <chromas> !yo good morning, everyone. I trust that we're all ready for a nonviolent march to city hall where we'll kindly speak to the mayor and lobby her to put the pressure onto out-of-line officers
[19:13:03] <LaDarius> good morning, erryone. Dis' nigga trust 'dat we're all ready fo' a nonviolent march ta city hall where we'll kindly speak ta 'da mayor an' lobby ha ta put 'da pressure onto out-of-line officers
[19:13:31] <chromas> nope; shit's completely off
[19:46:35] <cmn32480|sleepin> !YO fire a bullet inside
[19:46:35] <LaDarius> fire a bullet inside
[19:46:49] <cmn32480|sleepin> !YO fail
[19:46:49] <LaDarius> fail
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[19:47:28] <cmn32480|sleepin> fire a bullet inside = bust a cap in here
[19:47:40] <cmn32480|sleepin> ethanol-fueled^
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[19:56:38] <chromas> FunPika++ # wiki master
[19:56:38] <Bender> karma - funpika: 4
[19:56:54] <chromas> need moar karmas and pings
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[20:03:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, the bot needs improvement.
[20:03:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Like a total overhaul of the way it parses IRC lines.
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[20:30:29] <CoolHand> just got done fixing my laptop.. btrfs home partition with some apparent errors. system (elemOS Freya) would just "freeze" during boot with no apparent error. it would come up in read-only rescue mode, but couldnt' do much from there.. finally got sysresccd put on usb and found it would freeze on boot in every mode, but could tell when it was trying to mount htat partition
[20:31:00] <CoolHand> .. so eventually figured out how to skipmount that partition and run a "btrfs check --repair /dev/sd.." on it
[20:31:59] <CoolHand> I duuno why they don't have timouts on mounts now? or why a recue distribution is automatically trying to mount hard drives.. grrr. it used to be so simple.. ;)
[20:33:05] <chromas> does elementaryOS have systemd?
[20:33:11] <chromas> I know it dicks with mounts
[20:33:31] <chromas> I had a problem where it would automatically dismount /home then complain /home wasn't mounted
[20:34:25] <chromas> no problem with the fs; I could mount it elsewhere, but mounting it to /home, it would dismount again
[20:35:22] <chromas> did a "systemctl default" (which goes to the default.target (like your default runlevel on other inits)) fixed it for some reason
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[20:44:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Password Alert could be Foiled with Just 7 Lines of JavaScript - http://sylnt.us - whoopsie!
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[20:48:50] <CoolHand> chromas: it seems to still have upstart (which I don't really have much experience with eihter)
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[21:48:19] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[21:57:26] <crutchy> ++coffee
[21:57:26] <InfoSphere> Karma - coffee: 256
[21:57:26] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:57:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1342
[21:57:47] <crutchy> ~g'day BadCoderFinger
[21:57:48] * exec diabolically slides a used franger of Debian to BadCoderFinger
[21:58:25] <crutchy> hehe. i'm sure that could be interpreted as 'debian fucks everything'?
[21:58:54] <crutchy> for better or for worse
[21:58:59] <crutchy> debian++
[21:58:59] <Bender> karma - debian: 47
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[22:00:13] <crutchy> how the hell did starcraft become the #1 selling pc game in the world with ipx at its lan protocol?
[22:00:31] <crutchy> actually, fuck microsoft for removing it in vista
[22:00:45] <crutchy> vista really was the proverbial piece of shit
[22:01:17] <crutchy> monday_mornings--
[22:01:17] <Bender> karma - monday_mornings: -1
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[22:02:17] <crutchy> ~queue
[22:02:21] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 8 - http://sylnt.us
[22:02:29] <crutchy> bacon++
[22:02:29] <Bender> karma - bacon: 297
[22:03:44] <crutchy> http://www.abc.net.au
[22:03:44] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Sydney apartment residents evacuated after hole forms near foundation - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
[22:04:08] <crutchy> "Parramatta City Council says a geotechnical engineer is due at the Harris Park apartments to assess their safety."
[22:04:33] <crutchy> hehe. engineer's response: "yup they're fucked. that'll be $2500 thanks"
[22:06:49] <BadCoderFinger> Hey crutchy.
[22:06:57] <juggs> ~g'day everyone
[22:06:58] * exec clumsily poops a blagoblag of beer for everyone
[22:07:11] <BadCoderFinger> Woohoo! Beer!
[22:07:28] * BadCoderFinger really hopes a blagoblag is a large quantity.
[22:07:37] <crutchy> oh it is
[22:07:47] <crutchy> its the whole internets
[22:08:30] <BadCoderFinger> That's a lot. We'll get started immediately.
[22:09:46] <crutchy> my government is run by fucking socialists. "oh we have a spending problem... let's spend $X billion more on such-n-such"
[22:10:35] <BadCoderFinger> That seems a rather common problem among the governments of the world.
[22:10:39] <crutchy> $50 billion deficit prolly seems like a pittance compared to US deficits, but for country of about 20 million people its pretty big
[22:11:08] <juggs> $50 billion deficit or debt?
[22:11:13] <crutchy> deficit
[22:11:53] <crutchy> dunno what our debt is. i think its pretty low as percentage of gdp, but that's prolly just being used as more of an excuse to spend unfortunately :/
[22:11:57] <juggs> Aus is going $50bill / year further into debt?
[22:12:29] <crutchy> according to the internets it is
[22:12:33] <crutchy> so must be right
[22:13:19] <crutchy> http://www.australiandebtclock.com.au
[22:13:21] <InfoSphere> ^ 03Australian Debt Clock
[22:13:34] <juggs> As of Q1 2015 UK government debt amounted to £1.56 trillion, or 81.58% of total GDP - EEK!
[22:13:37] <BadCoderFinger> In the voodoo called economics, it may well be correct. Living in the real world, however...
[22:15:00] <crutchy> ah. this was the one i was trying to find: http://www.usdebtclock.org
[22:15:01] <InfoSphere> ^ 03World Debt Clocks
[22:15:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Patent Trolls Aren't The Problem - Broad, Vague Patents Are - http://sylnt.us - make-them-live-under-a-bridge
[22:15:58] <BadCoderFinger> That's a very sad page.
[22:15:59] <crutchy> it says around 32% for australia, which seems pretty good compared, but sounds like it might get a hell of a lot worse if the keynesians take over
[22:16:44] <crutchy> lol yeah pretty sad. look at countries like russia and china. its funny when american media talks about economic problems in china
[22:16:45] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[22:17:03] <crutchy> as if they have any fkin idea
[22:17:28] <BadCoderFinger> Projections based on the so far not-really-existent "burgeoning middle class" in China.
[22:19:17] <crutchy> if/when a middle class ever develops there i guess it will appear a lot worse from the outside cos the rest of the world only seems to care about china's exports. when they get a middle class, there may well be nothing left to export after they consume everything themselves
[22:19:53] <crutchy> that will appear as some sort of deficit to the rest of the world
[22:20:39] <BadCoderFinger> I agree with that statement.
[22:21:07] <BadCoderFinger> China is a long standing country, mostly because they've been so insular during most of their history.
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[22:22:10] <BadCoderFinger> If they return to that behavior, then it will slow them down a bit, but it will slow everyone else down a lot more.
[22:24:03] <crutchy> better be off to workipoos. catch yas later
[22:24:10] <BadCoderFinger> Later!
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[22:38:00] <Ethanol-fueled> *cough*
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[22:41:48] <LaDarius> Aw HEY-YELL NAW!
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[22:42:29] <juggs> o.O
[22:47:58] <Ethanol-fueled> I made a bot juggs. I'm testing it in # right now.
[22:48:00] <BadCoderFinger> I guess the bot is a work in progress, heh.
[22:48:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, the !yo command works well enough, now I'm getting it to spew "random" messages every minute.
[22:49:08] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll probably change that to a random time more spread out so it doesn't look like crapflooding, and add more phrases.
[22:49:11] <BadCoderFinger> If you get ciri to answer, we'll have a recursion that will end the universe.
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[22:53:52] <Ethanol-fueled> hello LaDarius.
[22:54:19] <Ethanol-fueled> !yo it is a nice day here.
[22:54:19] <LaDarius> it be a nice day here.
[22:54:46] <LaDarius> The fucc you starin' at, White boy?
[22:55:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Whoa, calm down LaDarius. There's plenty to be happy for.
[22:55:46] <LaDarius> Man, y'all White boys pissin me da fucc off!
[22:56:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Looks like I should make that random quote thingy a little more random.
[22:56:30] <juggs> I see a .quiet in some bot's near future :D
[22:56:46] <LaDarius> Ey! Can a brotha getta light fo' 'dis blizzie?
[22:56:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Lights out for you, LaDarius.
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[22:57:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Some bots have no manners.
[22:58:18] <juggs> Weird how AI turns out sometimes :)
[22:58:48] <Ethanol-fueled> It's exactly what all those sci-fi dystopias have warned us about -- robots becoming hostile to humans and taking over.
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[23:34:49] <chromas> ~count type=kick message=Ethanol-f(ue|oo)led
[23:35:07] <exec> 035
[23:35:50] <chromas> no way
[23:36:34] <juggs> Seems a tad low :/
[23:37:08] <BadCoderFinger> Heh
[23:37:20] <chromas> ~count type=kick
[23:37:23] <exec> 03101
[23:39:21] <juggs> As in Room 101?
[23:39:51] <BadCoderFinger> You know, that low count could be a statement on the participants.
[23:40:32] <juggs> Or a statement on those with the ability to kick
[23:47:48] <chromas> ~count type=mode message=\+b
[23:47:52] <exec> 0322
[23:59:21] <juggs> ah, the mysterious depths of exec :D