#Soylent | Logs for 2015-04-27
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[00:00:12] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled is the man-behind-the-curtain at Soylent
[00:00:25] <takyon> http://soylentnews.org
[00:00:25] <LinkCollector> ^* 03SN comment by [02Anonymous Coward] (02Score:0)
[00:00:32] <Ethanol-fueled> cmn32480, I was referring specifically to the discussion about Debian 8, and the submitter's angry post in that discussion, and janrinok's reply.
[00:01:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Even though that was one big troll discussion anyway.
[00:01:56] <cmn32480> Oh bother
[00:05:10] <cmn32480> Rather well said, IMHO
[00:13:42] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com
[00:13:44] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Putin-backed bikers begin controversial ride to Berlin - BBC News
[00:14:54] <Ethanol-fueled> "The US has put the club on its sanctions list."
[00:15:35] <Ethanol-fueled> And now Putin has cred with supporting a biker gang. The only thing Baraq can do now to stay relevant is to pose with the Grape Street Crips
[00:16:30] <takyon> don't forget the White House Correspondents Dinner
[00:16:31] <takyon> mad cred
[00:16:42] <Ethanol-fueled> http://crip-knowledge.com
[00:17:38] <takyon> even secret service wouldn't
[00:22:37] <arti> grape drink crip
[00:23:01] * chromas joins the watermelon bloods
[00:23:13] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, say that to their face not online fucker and see what happens
[00:23:46] <chromas> they'll demonstrate the correctness of the stereotypes
[00:25:13] <Ethanol-fueled> https://candiceludlowmedia.files.wordpress.com
[00:25:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck with the grapes and you gonna get raped. \
[00:29:29] <JamesNZ> s/raped/graped/
[00:29:43] <JamesNZ> s/raped./graped./
[00:30:51] <Ethanol-fueled> you gotta put the "g", mister names N to-the-ZEE.
[00:31:07] <Ethanol-fueled> s/names/James/g
[00:31:07] <sedctl> <Ethanol-fueled> you gotta put the "g", mister James N to-the-ZEE.
[00:31:14] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[00:31:15] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Hear the G | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim - YouTube
[00:31:17] <JamesNZ> :P
[00:55:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, I'm gettin' wasted.
[00:56:28] <Ethanol-fueled> You know that song that has like an awesome 2 or 3 minutes in it but the rest sucks?
[00:56:37] <Ethanol-fueled> That's pretty much every Tool song, Bahahah!
[00:57:46] <SirFinkus> Dopesmoker is awesome all the way though though
[00:58:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Like their overuse of chorus tho.
[00:58:56] <Ethanol-fueled> chorus++
[00:58:56] <Bender> karma - chorus: 1
[00:59:13] <SirFinkus> Tool is pretty neat, a few of their songs get a little long though
[00:59:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, fresh.
[00:59:46] <takyon> this is a great time to submit, literally anything will go through
[01:00:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Never agreed with that atonal deftones school of lead vocalism, but the overall effect is great.
[01:00:21] <SirFinkus> I'd submit something, but I have literally nothing worth submitting
[01:00:34] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm too wasted to submit anything.
[01:01:13] <mrcoolbp> takyon: any reason we aren't running the "Build Your Own Linux Distro" sub?
[01:01:27] <takyon> idk
[01:01:28] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp, that was run.
[01:01:34] <takyon> i don't click on everything
[01:01:44] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: was it?
[01:01:57] <takyon> did someone somewhere mention that DMCA tractor thing
[01:02:07] <mrcoolbp> not sure
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[01:02:33] <SirFinkus> that one has been run
[01:02:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Or maybe just posted here. In an existence of perpetual drunkenness, who knows?
[01:03:33] <takyon> oh boy look at the latest sub
[01:03:39] <takyon> while I write up this tractor thing
[01:04:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Yikes.
[01:04:16] <mrcoolbp> SirFinkus: still not seeing it
[01:04:54] <SirFinkus> shit, maybe not, I could have sworn I read the story
[01:04:58] <SirFinkus> I even remember the title
[01:05:16] <SirFinkus> it was something like "do we really own our cars?"
[01:05:40] <mrcoolbp> that's a different topic I think
[01:05:55] <chromas> the latest I see is http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:55] <LinkCollector> ^ 03SN Submission by Anonymous Coward: Men who hate women also hate systemd -- Debian Dev Russell Coker
[01:06:12] <Ethanol-fueled> We DO own our cars.
[01:06:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Now, at least.
[01:06:31] <SirFinkus> yup, we did
[01:06:55] <Ethanol-fueled> They don't want discovery of the firmware backdoors that facilitated the assassinatino of Michael Hastings.
[01:06:59] <SirFinkus> https://soylentnews.org mrcoolbp
[01:07:00] <LinkCollector> ^ 03SN article: In Defence of the Concept of Ownership 04(50 comments)
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[01:08:11] <mrcoolbp> SirFinkus: ah, too many different conversations happening, nevermind = )
[01:09:17] <takyon> ah ok. I just noticed it now that TorrentFreak has an editorial about it
[01:11:02] <SirFinkus> http://www.nytimes.com might be neat, kind of sucks to link to a semi-paywalled article
[01:11:03] <LinkCollector> ^ 03( http://www.nytimes.com )
[01:11:39] <mrcoolbp> yeah we try to avoid those
[01:11:48] <takyon> http://www.theguardian.com
[01:11:49] <LinkCollector> ^ 03White House releases report on NSA surveillance six years later | World news | The Guardian
[01:17:09] <takyon> here we go
[01:17:18] <takyon> a sony leak story fun for the whole family
[01:17:26] <Ethanol-fueled> The struggle within. Fuck that bullshit.
[01:17:34] <mrcoolbp> good lace to look for stories:
[01:17:35] <mrcoolbp> http://logs.sylnt.us
[01:17:36] <LinkCollector> ^ 03#rss-bot | Logs for 2015-04-26
[01:17:39] <mrcoolbp> http://logs.sylnt.us
[01:17:39] <LinkCollector> ^ 03#rss-bot | Logs for 2015-04-27
[01:18:10] <mrcoolbp> lace = place sorry
[01:25:51] <Ethanol-fueled> is that like the lacePlace transform?
[01:25:59] <takyon> hue
[01:27:38] <takyon> bye
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[01:41:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Time for some fun:
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[01:43:52] <TheMightyLaptop> long day. driving sucks.
[01:44:15] <Moar_beer> Buzzbomb welcome
[01:44:35] <TheMightyLaptop> sup, yo
[01:45:06] <Moar_beer> ERg, shit happens.
[01:46:41] <TheMightyLaptop> whaddup in the wide world of the internets today?
[01:46:59] <Moar_beer> Not much here.
[01:47:34] <Moar_beer> Fuck this nullshit, Time for some beer and Wine!
[01:48:54] <TheMightyLaptop> sounds good. i'm closer to bed myself
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[02:03:46] <paulej72> Hola TheMightyLaptop
[02:03:59] <TheMightyLaptop> evenin. see yer makin progress
[02:04:06] <paulej72> tying
[02:04:32] <paulej72> The nexus gskin bugs are a bitch, but I think I have wrapped my head around most of it.
[02:04:38] <TheMightyLaptop> cool cool
[02:05:07] <TheMightyLaptop> just a lot of tired for me
[02:05:21] <paulej72> next I'll trak down why nexus and topics get fubared from story edit
[02:05:56] <paulej72> close to 1000 miles or have you only done the first leg
[02:09:26] <paulej72> bed for me guys. laters all
[02:17:55] <arti> nitep paulej72
[02:18:10] <TheMightyLaptop> nite
[02:18:14] <arti> :D
[02:32:57] <TheMightyLaptop> ya, nite from me too
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[02:41:30] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:41:32] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Star Wars IV: A new hope - Final Scene (The Throne Room) and End Title - YouTube
[02:42:01] <Ethanol-fueled> John Williams was a true badass.
[02:43:00] <Ethanol-fueled> that scene was one of the most alpha as fuck in history.
[02:43:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Dat Swag.
[02:44:36] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[02:44:37] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Star Wars Gangsta Rap 2 - YouTube
[02:47:11] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHAH!
[02:47:15] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[02:47:15] <LinkCollector> ^ 03WKUK - Season 5 - John Williams - YouTube
[02:48:35] <Ethanol-fueled> FUCK DEM MUDDAFUKKAS
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[02:49:30] <chromas> "I said just mute me faggot!"
[02:50:18] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm gonna rest. And then WISE FWOM MY GVAVE.
[02:52:28] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHHAA
[02:53:14] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHH!
[02:54:02] <Ethanol-fueled> That old SEGA game ALtered Beast
[02:55:03] <Ethanol-fueled> When you get the power up, their chests become more exposed.
[02:55:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Then they get the bear powerup.
[02:55:14] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHAHHA
[02:56:12] <Ethanol-fueled> HAAAA! That hooknosed Jew takes everything!
[02:56:42] <SpallsHurgenson> the internet is boring tonight. somebody entertain me :)
[02:57:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahaha, suck my dick, and tongue the balls.
[02:58:51] <Ethanol-fueled> This game is polymorphously perverse. Phoetoid alligators. A trip to hell.
[02:59:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Furries.
[02:59:47] <Ethanol-fueled> The boss fight music is like this:
[03:00:08] <Ethanol-fueled> ZWell, full of furries.
[03:00:53] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[03:00:54] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Flairs - Truckers Delight (Official music video) - YouTube
[03:00:57] <Ethanol-fueled> YARRRR!!!
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[03:05:46] <SpallsHurgenson> argh, Internet, you have failed me again! I'm gonna go watch a movie.
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[03:10:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Won’t Always Rule—Just Look at IBM - http://sylnt.us - the-tide-goes-in-and-the-tide-goes-out
[03:12:27] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[03:12:28] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Little Hitler - The Whitest Kids U'Know - YouTube
[03:20:07] <juggs> wth am I watching?
[03:20:09] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't get it
[03:29:33] <SpallsHurgenson> the internet is confusing and scary to me because I am old
[03:29:58] <chromas> being old should make it funnier
[03:30:01] <juggs> noo - it's because you are a cat
[03:30:17] <chromas> leave it to beaver becomes hitler because marriage uh wanna
[03:37:29] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I get it; now it all makes sense!
[03:47:06] * SpallsHurgenson watches some "Whitest Kid You Know" skits
[03:47:18] <SpallsHurgenson> It's like the Kids In The Hall... except without the funny!
[03:49:19] <chromas> it's got guys dressing up as women; it's totally on par with anything british
[03:49:57] <SpallsHurgenson> KITH are Canadian; they are completely different :)
[03:50:10] <SpallsHurgenson> also, they could act and had decent writers :)
[03:50:53] <chromas> yeah but think about monty python or that other show they had
[03:51:44] <chromas> speaking of kith, Kevin McDonald does voices in nickelodeon cartoons
[03:52:54] <chromas> several of the cast still get gigs
[03:55:11] <SpallsHurgenson> thats what talent will get you :)
[03:56:21] <chromas> seems that way at first, but then adam sandler and andy samburg are in things too
[03:57:12] * chromas looks for other ways to disappoint SpallsHurgenson
[03:58:30] <SpallsHurgenson> I have every confidence in you!
[03:59:54] * juggs disappoints SpallsHurgenson https://www.youtube.com
[03:59:55] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Richard Dawkins stunned by stupidity - YouTube
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[04:06:13] <SpallsHurgenson> now I have the image of some guy with only 50% of an eye stuck in my head
[04:09:58] <juggs> a semi-cyclops?
[04:10:34] <juggs> Damn YouTube... now I've moved onto https://www.youtube.com
[04:10:34] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Richard Dawkins interviews Illusionist Derren Brown (Enemies of Reason Uncut Interviews) - YouTube
[04:10:57] <chromas> Uncut Interviews? That doesn't sound kosher
[04:11:38] <SirFinkus> the wendy wright(?) "debate" is the best one imo
[04:12:13] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[04:12:14] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Richard Dawkins vs Wendy Wright (FULL LENGTH VIDEO) - YouTube
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[04:12:30] <juggs> I've found Derren Brown interesting in the past - he knows far to much about manipulating people though
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[04:13:02] <SirFinkus> Hitchens was the best at these things, a real master debator
[04:13:36] * SpallsHurgenson watches the first vid and sighs, "ARguing science with a creationist is an unwinnable arguments... might as well try to argue politics with a libertarian" :)
[04:14:15] <juggs> libertarian or "Libertarian"?
[04:14:16] <SirFinkus> I hate that "argument"
[04:14:17] <chromas> argue anything with a five-year-old
[04:14:46] <SirFinkus> I'd win that
[04:14:57] <SirFinkus> bring any 5 year old, and any argument
[04:14:57] <chromas> Nuh uh! You're a doody head!
[04:15:05] <juggs> Yeah - violence doesn't count :D
[04:15:25] <SirFinkus> I bet I could make a 5 year old cry using just words
[04:16:02] <chromas> need to see that on youtube
[04:16:18] <chromas> "You're watching A Kind Word with Kids, with your host, Sir Finkus"
[04:16:51] <SpallsHurgenson> oh god, that wendy wright video is hurting my brain and I'm only a minute in.
[04:17:22] <SirFinkus> it's amazing
[04:17:33] <SirFinkus> "mmmn, yes"
[04:18:20] <SpallsHurgenson> if I keep watching this, I'm going to throw something into my monitor :-/
[04:18:37] <chromas> just don't break your new ceiling
[04:19:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I do have a very nice ceiling
[04:20:01] <juggs> You should put a monitor on the ceiling and a mattress on the floor - then you can watch YT vids whilst appreciating the fine ceiling at the same time.
[04:20:25] <SirFinkus> I love how this bitch is like "there isn't any physical evidence" and dawkins tells her to visit a museum
[04:20:27] <SpallsHurgenson> I've turned off my video and am staring at my ceiling now. There is less stupidity coming from the ceiling, I feel
[04:20:43] <SpallsHurgenson> but there's no evidence in museums, only drawings!
[04:20:52] <chromas> do you see any little square cutouts?
[04:20:59] <chromas> ceiling cat might be visiting you
[04:21:37] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't even get my cat to leap up onto the table, much less climb up into the crawlspace :)
[04:22:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I may have the world's only acrophobic kitty :)
[04:26:03] <juggs> claustrophobic no?
[04:26:41] <SpallsHurgenson> not judging by her love of paper bags
[04:28:04] <juggs> my bad - I was confusing acrophobia (heights) with agoraphobia (open spaces)
[04:28:51] <SpallsHurgenson> is that anything like algoreaphobia?
[04:29:27] <juggs> My high school Latin teacher is spinning in his grave as we speak. I'll blame it on Latin -- Greek translation
[04:30:13] * chromas checks the tachometer
[04:30:40] <SpallsHurgenson> screw that, I'm hooking up a generator!
[04:31:04] <chromas> keep that teacher spinning!
[04:31:35] <SpallsHurgenson> Romanes Eunt Domus!
[04:32:08] <juggs> I've no idea if he was buried or burnt in an oven. I do know he's pegged it though, diabetes knocked him off this mortal coil IIRC.
[04:34:51] <juggs> well - I managed to morbid that into the ground - sorry :-/
[04:35:52] <SpallsHurgenson> sorry, was eating :)
[04:39:47] <juggs> yum - deep fried kitty!
[04:42:49] <SpallsHurgenson> never could get kitty to sit in the frier long enough
[04:43:55] <juggs> I thought they liked warm places...
[04:44:24] <chromas> but he doesn't like heights
[04:46:31] <SirFinkus> http://www.infobitt.com this idea seems kind of neat
[04:46:35] <LinkCollector> ^ 03Infobitt: Front page news, ranked and summarized by you and me
[04:49:04] <SpallsHurgenson> reminds me of the personalized feed at pipedot
[04:50:41] <SirFinkus> I like it because a lot of times I need to read an entire article just to learn the fact I wanted
[04:51:29] <SpallsHurgenson> reading the article? I hope you don't do that for any soylent articles!
[04:51:44] <SirFinkus> heavens know
[04:51:47] <SirFinkus> no
[04:51:48] <SirFinkus> wow
[04:52:06] <JamesNZ> What do the heavens know??!
[04:52:36] <SpallsHurgenson> that the "evidence" in museums is just pictures, so evolution doesn't really exist
[04:52:59] <SirFinkus> except the bones and shit
[04:53:05] <SirFinkus> I guess
[04:53:26] <SpallsHurgenson> shhh! that's just scientisty-type people trying to silence people with contrary evidence!
[04:53:43] <JamesNZ> Stoppid scientists!
[04:54:40] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[04:54:40] <Bender> karma - emacs: 70
[04:54:41] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[04:54:41] <Bender> karma - emacs: 71
[04:54:42] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[04:54:42] <Bender> karma - emacs: 72
[04:55:53] <SpallsHurgenson> vim++
[04:55:53] <Bender> karma - vim: 4
[04:56:04] <SirFinkus> I hope this site becomes an actual thing, it's a little sparse right now
[04:56:07] <SirFinkus> and very much beta
[04:56:08] <SpallsHurgenson> really, 4? vim needs some love
[04:56:49] <chromas> !karma vi
[04:56:49] <Bender> karma of vi is 21
[04:57:04] <chromas> !karma nano
[04:57:04] <Bender> karma of nano is 10
[04:57:10] <chromas> !karma joe
[04:57:10] <Bender> joe doesn't have karma yet.
[04:57:22] <chromas> !karma notepad
[04:57:22] <Bender> karma of notepad is 1
[04:59:29] <SpallsHurgenson> there is an alternative to windows notepad called notepad++... now how do I give THAT some karma? :)
[05:00:00] <chromas> Your choice of () or []
[05:00:13] <SirFinkus> karma is rigged anyway
[05:00:37] <chromas> ++cheating
[05:00:37] <LinkCollector> Karma - cheating: 666
[05:05:09] * mrcoolbp rigs karma further
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[05:11:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rachel Byrk, Active Developer of the Dolphin Emulator Project, Dies at 23 - http://sylnt.us - in-memoriam
[05:43:10] <NCommander> for (int i = 666; i != 0; mrcoolbp--) { }
[05:51:22] <mrcoolbp> oh gawd
[05:52:32] * mrcoolbp think NCommander removed mrcoolbp from being able to do stuff again
[05:52:48] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: I'm actually heading to be, gotta be at work in 6 hours = (
[05:53:06] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: talk soon?
[05:55:26] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, huh?
[05:55:52] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I was reseting your karma to zero, but realized it was cheating above
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[07:43:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sony Leaks: Federation Against Copyright Theft Anti-Cammer Efforts - http://sylnt.us - smile-you're-on-candid-camera
[08:09:20] <arti> ms doz
[08:17:32] <crutchy> sony is a magic butthole curtain
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[10:15:17] <TheMightyLaptop> coffee++
[10:15:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1319
[10:15:37] <TheMightyLaptop> ;weather amarillo, tx
[10:15:38] <MrPlow> Today: Windy. A steady rain. The rain may be heavy at times in the morning. High 47F. Winds NNE at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected. Tomorrow: Chance of a morning shower. Sunshine and clouds mixed. High 66F. Winds N at 15 to 25 mph.
[10:16:03] <TheMightyLaptop> ;weather ada, ok
[10:16:03] <MrPlow> Today: Cloudy with periods of rain. Thunder possible. High around 55F. Winds ENE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall possibly over one inch. Tomorrow: Showers in the morning, then cloudy in the afternoon. High 58F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60%.
[10:16:47] <chromas> more driving today?
[10:17:03] <TheMightyLaptop> errands first then another 4-5h
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[10:46:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Robots Step Into the Backbreaking Agricultural Work that Immigrants Won't Do - http://sylnt.us - we-welcome-our-new-robot-overlords
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[11:42:47] <SoyCow7780> Any SN devs around?
[11:43:35] <SoyCow7780> In case anyone reads this: just wanted to say thanks to the devs to make SN run without 1) requests to other domains and 2) the need for javascript
[11:43:41] <SoyCow7780> it is much appreciated :)
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[11:46:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rachel Bryk, Active Developer of the Dolphin Emulator Project, Dies at 23 - http://sylnt.us - in-memoriam
[11:51:38] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:51:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1320
[11:51:43] <Bytram> !uid
[11:51:43] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5231, owned by Theretion
[11:51:45] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:51:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1321
[11:51:51] <crutchy> hola Bytram!
[11:51:55] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[11:52:04] <crutchy> 404 bot moving house
[11:52:22] <TheMightyLaptop> coffee++ # giver of life
[11:52:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1322
[11:52:32] <TheMightyLaptop> mornin, Bytram
[11:52:36] * crutchy just made his final cup for tonight
[11:52:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nornin'
[11:52:46] <TheMightyLaptop> ;weather boston, ma
[11:52:46] <MrPlow> Today: A mix of clouds and sun early followed by cloudy skies this afternoon. Slight chance of a rain shower. High 57F. Winds NNW at 10 to 20 mph. Tomorrow: Cloudy skies early, followed by partial clearing. High 61F. Winds N at 10 to 20 mph.
[11:53:03] * Bytram is just popping if for a coupla minutes... gotta leave for work within an hour
[11:53:40] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: how's things?
[11:53:54] <TheMightyLaptop> i'm just chillin while i read a book and wait for things to open up so i can run errands
[11:54:01] <Bytram> nodnod
[11:54:37] <Bytram> I herd you had a fix for the character wierdness I saw on dev?
[11:54:41] <Bytram> s/er/ear/
[11:54:42] <sedctl> <Bytram> I heard you had a fix for the character wierdness I saw on dev?
[11:55:00] <TheMightyLaptop> Bytram, halfway.
[11:55:11] * Bytram is not referrring to the users being wierd characters, even though that might still apply =)
[11:55:23] <TheMightyLaptop> found something that stopped it from doing it but it's a smaller part of the utf8 issue
[11:56:17] <Bytram> what gets me is that I could use  and  but could not paste in "
[11:56:17] <Bytram> " as that would cause the page to 'blow up'
[11:56:51] <TheMightyLaptop> ya thas cause they get stored as literally "" five characters
[11:56:53] <Bytram> I keep having to remember that it's just a stream of bits coming down the wire and how they are interpretted is what makes the characters what they are.
[11:57:05] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[11:57:05] <Bytram> nod nod
[11:57:39] <Bytram> so, I type '" and you store it exactly like that.
[11:57:45] <TheMightyLaptop> yeah
[11:57:52] <Bytram> I type '" and you store it as '"
[11:57:55] <TheMightyLaptop> ditto
[11:58:10] <TheMightyLaptop> well no, it gets stored without the x
[11:58:17] <Bytram> I type "
[11:58:17] <Bytram> " and you *try* to store it as "" but it went boom.
[11:58:19] <Bytram> :/
[11:58:32] <Bytram> oh?
[11:58:42] <TheMightyLaptop> no, it should be stored literally as the one u+0001 character
[11:58:44] <Bytram> you store numeric character entities 'xctly as entered?
[11:58:54] <TheMightyLaptop> yes
[11:59:17] <Bytram> something does not seem to add up here
[11:59:25] <Bytram> oops, laundry... brb
[12:00:00] <TheMightyLaptop> only exception is the four byte characters which are stored in &#xNNNN; format
[12:00:23] <TheMightyLaptop> everything else is stored exactly as it is entered.
[12:01:10] <TheMightyLaptop> well and illegal characters which are changed to the 65533 decimal character
[12:02:38] <Bytram> back
[12:02:39] <Bytram> hrrmm
[12:03:33] <TheMightyLaptop> ideally anyway. they're not storing properly at all right now.
[12:03:51] <Bytram> so, If I typed: "_A_A_A_" what would get stored in the DB?
[12:04:03] <TheMightyLaptop> exactly that
[12:04:35] <TheMightyLaptop> we don't convert entities to characters or vice versa barring 4byte
[12:04:40] <Bytram> I thot you used to do some translatin before storing in the DB
[12:04:47] <TheMightyLaptop> newp
[12:05:07] <Bytram> ughhh.
[12:05:21] * Bytram mental model of what was happening is undergoing a dramatic shift
[12:05:25] <TheMightyLaptop> oldschool was to translate all unicode into &#xNNNN; notation but we never used it.
[12:05:41] <Bytram> okaaay
[12:05:47] <TheMightyLaptop> ya, what you type is what we store
[12:06:21] <Bytram> number of test cases for data entry just went up by at least one order of magnitude. :(
[12:07:11] <TheMightyLaptop> not really. i mostly wanna know if there are any single characters that make it bork at this point.
[12:07:33] <TheMightyLaptop> other things will be edge case bugs
[12:08:19] <TheMightyLaptop> but right now i KNOW it doesn't work so no testing is really needed.
[12:08:38] <TheMightyLaptop> will try and work on it this week while i'm in texas
[12:08:57] <Bytram> from what I can tell, any char from Control Char set C0 and C1 (except for CR, LF, Space) plus  cause a boom.
[12:09:00] <Bytram> thats from memory, btw
[12:10:00] <TheMightyLaptop> good good
[12:10:16] <Bytram> I struggle to come up with an analogy, but being unable to trust that what I type can round-trip into and out of the DB is, for me, blocking.
[12:10:47] <Bytram> I *need* to know that I can *trust* that low level shit, or nothing else built upon it can be tested.
[12:11:05] <TheMightyLaptop> yep, which is what i'm gonna be working on.
[12:11:13] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[12:11:13] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 167
[12:11:25] <Bytram> *MUCH* appreciated!
[12:11:45] <Bytram> waitaminute... Texas? what part, if I may ask?
[12:12:05] <TheMightyLaptop> all chars need to be stored exactly as typed. or transformed into "�"
[12:12:11] <TheMightyLaptop> amarillo
[12:12:25] <TheMightyLaptop> gonna be there later today till friday morning
[12:12:29] <Bytram> hope the trip goes well for ya!
[12:12:47] <TheMightyLaptop> already back in oklahoma so it's only 4-5h
[12:12:48] * Bytram might have spent some part of his early life in that big state
[12:13:12] <Bytram> oh. geography fail... /me forgot they are adjacent states!
[12:13:42] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod. just lots of ok and tx to cross to get where i'm going.
[12:14:02] <TheMightyLaptop> drive from tn to ok yesterday sucked
[12:14:20] <Bytram> yikes... that's a long one
[12:15:51] <TheMightyLaptop> only one state between em but i40 is a longass highway
[12:16:22] <Bytram> my brain is currently spinning while permuting all the possible interactions of having different kinds of character entry sequences that could be interpretted as generating a different (UTF-8) char
[12:16:50] <Bytram> woulda been shorter if you'd gone n/s instead of e/w ;)
[12:17:15] <Bytram> nvm /me was trying to play with the fact that TN is much wider than tall
[12:18:03] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: if you could please do me the favor of sending me an email when the character processing changes are in dev, I'd much appreciate it!
[12:18:32] * Bytram is in a very busy period of work... spare time is limited for the next week / 10days
[12:18:48] <TheMightyLaptop> martyb@, yeah?
[12:18:57] <Bytram> yeah, that'll work
[12:19:23] <Bytram> thank-you!
[12:19:31] <TheMightyLaptop> cool. will do.
[12:21:58] <Bytram> curious what happens if I enter "�" i.e. an 'over-wide' utf-8 entry; I suspect it should go in and come back out as just that stream of chars, right?
[12:22:51] <TheMightyLaptop> yep
[12:22:59] <TheMightyLaptop> entities should work fine right now
[12:23:12] <Bytram> other edge cases: "&#;" "&#x;" "A3;" "G3;"
[12:23:21] <TheMightyLaptop> whether they get rendered properly by your browser, that's a browser issue.
[12:23:27] * Bytram doffs his 'evil testing' cap
[12:24:10] <TheMightyLaptop> ya well, entities don't need testing to see if they render properly aside from ones you can do evil things like RTL and accents with.
[12:24:11] <Bytram> from what I recall, I've been able to use &#xh; and &#n; character entities to put in most chars
[12:24:57] <TheMightyLaptop> whether your browser can handle malformed entities is not our prollem.
[12:25:01] <crutchy> Bytram, did you still want a test setup or did you hack up one already?
[12:25:15] <Bytram> crutchy: hi!
[12:25:23] <crutchy> hey :)
[12:25:49] <Bytram> I hacked at it a bit, too. would still be useful having multiple ways of throwing stuff at the system and gathering responses...
[12:26:42] <Bytram> most challenging part with it wil be how to 'escape' interesting chars like '&' and non-character chars like U+0001
[12:27:23] <TheMightyLaptop> illegal chars like u+0001 should be turned into the illegal-character character
[12:28:07] <crutchy> i was thinking about a bunch of files in a subdirectory, each containing a comment to be posted
[12:28:07] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: ooooh.... 'click' ... NOW I get your point about the browser's handling of invalid NCEs...
[12:28:14] <Bytram> crutchy: nod nod
[12:28:56] <crutchy> exec pretty much has the capability already. just gotta make the test files
[12:29:15] <TheMightyLaptop> anyway, heading out on errands. see you lot tomorrow.
[12:29:29] <Bytram> comment level 1: "characters 0x00..0x1f as &#xh;" would have 16 child comments, each covering one of those.
[12:29:31] <crutchy> cya TheMightyLaptop
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[12:29:48] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: appreciate the chat... cleared up a lot!
[12:30:01] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: appreciate the chat... cleared up a lot!
[12:30:51] <crutchy> oh actually the other part that i haven't built yet (but all the pieces are there) is the script that scrapes the comments after posting and compares the comment output
[12:30:58] <Bytram> then another comment at level 1: "characters 0x00..0x1f as &#n;" which would have child comments that used THAT notation.
[12:31:08] <Bytram> nodnod
[12:31:41] <crutchy> maybe i'll prep a demo test file and get the system working as a whole
[12:31:58] <Bytram> and those two comments I just mentioned should, probably, be children of another comment which covers 'character data tests'
[12:32:11] <Bytram> so, a hierarchy of tests =)
[12:32:16] <crutchy> np
[12:32:31] <crutchy> will prolly have a kind of syntax for the test file
[12:32:43] <crutchy> simple syntax
[12:32:57] <crutchy> for subject, parent test, etc
[12:33:18] <Bytram> I can programatically generate a file, with the test permutations in it... yeah, that's the idea
[12:33:32] <Bytram> I 'spose it should be XML?
[12:33:43] * Bytram hasn't really used it directly, but is quite familiar with the syntax
[12:33:44] <crutchy> whatever floats yer boat
[12:33:52] <crutchy> json is pretty simple too
[12:34:02] <crutchy> either either
[12:34:17] <Bytram> why create a new *language*, when there's something that fits the bill and has pre-existing tools that we can leverage?
[12:34:27] <Bytram> hmmm, good point
[12:34:29] * Bytram ponders
[12:34:50] <Bytram> I think XML would be less prone to problems with 'strange' character test data
[12:35:18] <Bytram> <subject>wierdness including < and / and the like</subject>
[12:35:51] <Bytram> seems conceptually easier to avoid unintended interactions between the 'container' and the 'contents'
[12:36:03] <Bytram> I appreciate the support!
[12:36:21] * crutchy is waiting for some files to copy cos he has some 5760x1080 wallpapers he wants to try out on new triple-head setup :)
[12:36:52] * Bytram suggests the 'Milky Way' in all its stunning glory!
[12:37:10] <crutchy> ah yeah i found a few of those. some are a bit grainy at that res
[12:37:15] * Bytram needs to step away for about 20 minutes and get started on his day.
[12:37:25] <crutchy> nod
[12:37:40] <crutchy> xml sounds good though. maybe we go with that eh :)
[12:37:41] <Bytram> crutchy: I'm certain I saw something out there with gigapixel-type resolutions.
[12:37:47] <Bytram> yeah.
[12:37:48] <crutchy> ooh
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[12:38:41] <janrinok> hi guys
[12:38:58] <crutchy> hi janrinok
[12:39:00] <crutchy> o/
[12:39:13] <Bytram> <test><testname>test 001</testname><Soylentdata><story id='...'><comment><title>comment title</title>... I dunno
[12:39:16] <janrinok> crutchy: go a'noon to you
[12:39:22] * Bytram has to think about that quite a bit
[12:39:23] <janrinok> good*
[12:39:27] <Bytram> janrinok: hiya!
[12:39:41] <Bytram> want to chat, but I gotta skoot and get started on my day.
[12:39:41] <janrinok> hi Bytram how's things?
[12:39:42] <ciri> >.> janrinok
[12:39:49] * Bytram hopes your well on the mend!
[12:39:51] <crutchy> Bytram, also need to incorporate the comment content to be posted as well as the expected html output
[12:40:07] <Bytram> crutchy: yuppers
[12:40:14] <Bytram> janrinok: busy busy time at work;
[12:40:24] <Bytram> spare time is limited for the next week-10days or so.
[12:40:39] * Bytram really needs to jump in shower, etc...
[12:40:41] <Bytram> back in a few minutes
[12:40:43] <janrinok> well, had more treatment but the in-laws were here for a week to make sure that I stayed in bed ...
[12:40:44] <Bytram> afk
[12:40:59] <crutchy> oh. you not well janrinok
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[12:41:00] <crutchy> ?
[12:41:20] <janrinok> recovering well, crutchy - just did too much for too long
[12:41:21] <crutchy> g'day cmn32480
[12:41:25] <janrinok> hi cmn32480
[12:41:26] <ciri> greetings janrinok
[12:41:30] <cmn32480> heya kids
[12:41:32] <crutchy> ah. hope you get better soon mate
[12:41:38] <crutchy> sucks getting sick
[12:41:39] <cmn32480> how's everybody
[12:41:53] <janrinok> nothing but rest for me for several weeks minimum :)
[12:41:55] * crutchy cant complain
[12:42:09] <crutchy> several weeks! that sounds bad
[12:42:53] <janrinok> well, having to look after my other half, and then spending too much time here all amounted to too much without rest
[12:44:00] <crutchy> thanks heaps for your work here. you guys keep this place afloat for the rest of us bludgers
[12:44:41] <janrinok> cmn32480: I noticed your comment regarding the story by R Coker - do you know about MikeeUSA at all? Have you been told about him on our site?
[12:45:11] <cmn32480> Not much. The post seems to me as a straight flaimbait
[12:45:27] <cmn32480> both the post here, and the original blog post
[12:45:37] <janrinok> Actually, I would say just the opposite :)
[12:45:55] <cmn32480> let the argument commence~!
[12:46:00] <cmn32480> :-)
[12:46:25] <janrinok> MikeUSA is the one with the problem. He has extreme views on feminism, pedophilia and several other distastful subjects, as well as being a very bad programmer
[12:47:15] <janrinok> He released software - purportedly a game - which had several unpleasant easter eggs which resulted in the screen filling up with unsavoury comments and his own personal views
[12:47:25] <cmn32480> I shall research further.
[12:47:39] <cmn32480> I remember that game.... we covered it here
[12:47:52] <janrinok> He posts on our site from time-to-time, usually as AC, and tries to get the community to make a stand in his support
[12:48:00] <cmn32480> it was a slot machine I think
[12:48:11] <janrinok> that was the most recent that I was aware of
[12:49:08] <janrinok> He has a record for targetting the Debian devs who, in his eyes, support feminism and because they have rejected his own (poorly written) patches
[12:49:59] <janrinok> It looks like he has now shifted his current attention to the systemd devs on the Deb team, and Coker has been taking the brunt of that onslaught
[12:51:35] <janrinok> I don't think that we should rush to print the story, but I have quite a bit of sympathy for him if he is currently the target of MikeeUSA. There is some evidence that it was MikeeUSA that threatened the lives of the devs and their families but I don't think that it was deemed convincing enough to pass in court
[12:52:02] <cmn32480> nice fella
[12:52:37] <janrinok> I also think that it was him who appeared on the thread yesterday but he has wised up to changing his IP now.
[12:52:49] <janrinok> he who appeared*
[13:05:06] <Bytram> janrinok: is that the one who replies to himself saying that the parent comment is modded wrong?
[13:05:12] <CoolHand> hello janrinok !!
[13:05:12] <ciri> :D CoolHand
[13:07:14] <Bytram> wish I could hang around but gotta run!
[13:07:23] <Bytram> CoolHand: Hi! Bye!
[13:09:12] <CoolHand> see ya Bytram
[13:09:33] <janrinok> hi CoolHand
[13:12:15] <CoolHand> hey janrinok -- sorry you came back to walk right into that sh1tstorm... that sucks... :( glad you've been getting some rest, that probably didn't help... :(
[13:13:24] <janrinok> np - it's what we do. And I might not have been right. It appeared to some to be sarcasm and an attempt at humour, but it just didn't seem that way to me.
[13:14:26] <janrinok> however, I also don't think that simply publishing a story for the humour value is what we are about. The release of Jessie is newsworthy though, so I let the story go after a rewrite.
[13:14:29] <CoolHand> well, it appeared to me as sarcasm... but "mean" sarcasm, not "humurous" sarcasm..
[13:15:04] <janrinok> Your views are just as likely to be correct as mine :)
[13:15:06] <cmn32480> sorry guys first day abck in the office. Everybody wants a piece of me today
[13:15:19] <janrinok> cmn32480: have a good trip away?
[13:15:27] <cmn32480> better trip home!
[13:15:30] <janrinok> lol
[13:15:55] <janrinok> wife and kids will be pleased to see you then, even if the rest of your colleagues all want their pound of flesh
[13:16:16] <cmn32480> wife and kids were very happy to see me a day earlier than planned.
[13:16:33] <cmn32480> we were smart. didn't tell anybody at the office we finished a day early
[13:16:40] <janrinok> rofl
[13:16:56] <janrinok> we appreciate and recognise such dedication here at SN
[13:17:12] <cmn32480> went home. Showered. slept for about 4 hours.
[13:17:19] <cmn32480> my wife said my snoring was shaking the house
[13:17:35] <janrinok> I hope you said 'hello' somewhere in all of that...
[13:17:49] <cmn32480> hence the reference to "from airports and hotel rooms"
[13:18:07] <cmn32480> I knew I forgot something....
[13:19:05] <janrinok> aqs long as she is still speaking to you today...
[13:19:12] <cmn32480> she is.
[13:19:16] <cmn32480> Until I leave again tomorrow
[13:19:21] <janrinok> good. give her my best please
[13:19:34] <cmn32480> I will sir
[13:19:39] <cmn32480> how is your other half?
[13:19:44] <cmn32480> and you, for that matter
[13:21:02] <janrinok> S is OK thanks. I'm on the mend, and actually pleased to have the house back under my control. My in-laws are marvellous folk, and I couldn't have managed without them over the last week or so, but I do wish they wouldn't try to reorganise the entire house when they are here.
[13:21:35] <janrinok> I've spent the morning trying to find where they have put things
[13:22:04] <cmn32480> missing your socks are you?
[13:22:04] <CoolHand> hah. I get that all the time with my wife.. :)
[13:22:55] <janrinok> I'm missing things like a potato-peeler, wok, vase, pruning shears, and garden fork.
[13:23:55] <janrinok> I never know where my socks are anyway. In the laundry basket there are enough singletons to suggest that a 1-legged man also lives with us.
[13:24:05] <cmn32480> hehehe
[13:24:08] <cmn32480> I have that problem!
[13:24:25] <cmn32480> tha woudl be the reason I have 2 colors of socks - white and black
[13:24:26] <janrinok> If I catch him - I want back rent
[13:24:41] <cmn32480> singles get re-paired to a close-enough-match
[13:25:02] <janrinok> give them a very hot wash, they will all come out shades of grey!
[13:25:11] <cmn32480> PERFECT!
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[13:29:32] <janrinok> CoolHand: in your volcano story there is a '[Geysers erupt because they're all bendy]" - is that a sub-heading?
[13:29:39] <cmn32480> the solution to the in laws hiding things is to provide a spreadsheet with locations
[13:29:51] <janrinok> they rewrote it
[13:29:55] <cmn32480> DOH!
[13:30:06] <janrinok> but took the copy with them
[13:30:12] <cmn32480> to match their kitchen, no doubt
[13:30:27] <cmn32480> you poor soul
[13:30:30] <janrinok> probably - I must try some lateral thinking to check your hypothesis
[13:31:17] <cmn32480> I don't wanna think like my inlaws
[13:31:27] <cmn32480> probably drive me to drink
[13:31:41] <cmn32480> *drink more
[13:31:49] <janrinok> neither do I - I think that they have reached the age of no longer thinking but acting out of habit
[13:32:06] <cmn32480> habit... or spite?
[13:32:11] <janrinok> good point
[13:32:28] <CoolHand> janrinok: lemme look
[13:32:37] <janrinok> go ahead
[13:34:08] <CoolHand> meh, I didn't really catch it.. it looks like it's a link to another WP article from the linked WP article that's in the middle of the quote
[13:34:28] <janrinok> OK, I dig the link out and let you get on
[13:34:28] <CoolHand> it's kind of out of place.. I could link it, or just remove it..
[13:34:57] <janrinok> I'm allowed another 30 minutes on here, so I'll do it
[13:35:02] <CoolHand> ok :)
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[13:37:31] <janrinok> Actually, I could spend all day on here - now that my in-laws have gone I'm FREE!
[13:38:01] <CoolHand> lol... not sure you need that stress though.. :)
[13:38:55] <cmn32480> we do not want the wife getting mad at you Janrinok
[13:39:23] <janrinok> you mean, no more than she usually does?
[13:39:25] <cmn32480> I do that enough with my own wife
[13:39:41] <cmn32480> precisely, sir
[13:39:53] <janrinok> yeah, I'll go and cut the grass if I can find the lawn mower
[13:40:31] <CoolHand> surely they didn't misplace something as big as a lawn mower... :)
[13:40:33] <cmn32480> probably next to the potato peeler
[13:40:44] <janrinok> ..inside the vase
[13:40:57] <cmn32480> packed in socks
[13:41:04] <janrinok> exactly!
[13:41:25] <cmn32480> you can always cut the lines holding it to the ceiling with the pruning shears.
[13:41:35] <janrinok> if only...
[13:41:36] <cmn32480> oh... wait...
[13:42:24] <janrinok> CoolHand: I've done that story - you might want to check it again as it has your name on it ;)
[13:44:03] <janrinok> I'll leave you guys for a while, must search the house for more missing items. I'll be back on later!
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[13:44:30] <CoolHand> janrinok|afk: ok, thanks
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[18:55:01] <janrinok> JamesNZ: hi
[18:55:16] <JamesNZ> Morning janrinok \o How goes it?
[18:55:26] <janrinok> not too bad thx - and you?
[18:56:00] <JamesNZ> Very well, if a little chilly :)
[18:56:27] <janrinok> we're coming to the end of a nice spring day here - managed to get some time in the garden.
[18:57:01] <JamesNZ> Cool, what are you growing?
[18:57:09] <janrinok> weeds mainly!
[18:57:18] <JamesNZ> :P
[18:57:30] <janrinok> I've got roses, and dahlias and such like
[18:58:02] <JamesNZ> Ah, nice.
[18:58:05] <janrinok> I'm not a good gardener, but I enjoy being outside and I love the exercise of digging or whatever
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[23:01:05] <takyon> http://www.newsweek.com
[23:01:05] <LinkCollector> ^ 03var pianoVariables = { mode : "init_cookie", client_id : "SOnA01", service_id : "_", referer : "", is_post : false, post_args : null }; var pianoHostProtocol = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://" : "http://"); (function () { var s = documen...
[23:01:10] <mrcoolbp> whoa
[23:01:21] <takyon> 2fast
[23:01:23] <mrcoolbp> crutchy, it blew up ^
[23:10:11] <chromas> poor crutchy; always takin' the blame ;)
[23:10:24] <mrcoolbp> oh yeah, blame chromas
[23:10:28] <mrcoolbp> heh sorry crutch
[23:10:55] <chromas> apparently the bot doesn't handle empty title tags
[23:11:14] <mrcoolbp> .topic SN Main Channel - be respectful of others | https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publically displayed | SN PBC Board Meeting - Monday May 4th at 11pm UTC in #staff, all are welcome
[23:11:14] Imogen changed topic of #Soylent to: SN Main Channel - be respectful of others | https://SoylentNews.org | Useful links: http://sylnt.us | This channel IS logged and publically displayed | SN PBC Board Meeting - Monday May 4th at 11pm UTC in #staff, all are welcome
[23:11:18] <chromas> or html-based redirects
[23:11:31] <mrcoolbp> should probably fix that : p
[23:11:33] <chromas> ooh, a meating
[23:11:39] <takyon> that's what I get for linking newsweek
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[23:13:39] * Ethanol-fueled is watching the Baltimore protest.
[23:13:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Protest because it's not quite yet a riot.
[23:14:01] <takyon> one cop threw a rock back confirmed
[23:14:21] <Ethanol-fueled> did you see the video of the guy who threw the flaming trash can at the line of cops?
[23:14:45] <Ethanol-fueled> it flew like 3 feet and hit the ground with a fizzle a few feet in front of the cops.
[23:15:06] <Ethanol-fueled> I think the cops are going to chill and let the angrier ones break a few things, then the town just writes it off as collateral damage.
[23:15:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Cops directly engaging the angry mob in combat would inflame tensions even more.
[23:15:30] <chromas> oh neat, live on youtube
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[23:16:16] <takyon_> I guess I should get a real IRC client
[23:16:19] <takyon_> any suggestions
[23:16:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Watching it on CBS - They have Uncle Tom guest commentators trying to explain to their fellow blacks that riots hurt only other blacks and that's not what the victim's family wants.
[23:16:43] <chromas> hexchat, quassel, konversation for guis
[23:17:52] <mrcoolbp> takyon: hexchat is popular
[23:17:59] <mrcoolbp> I use mIRC, it's "okay"
[23:18:14] <takyon_> i'm grabbing hexchat
[23:18:17] <mrcoolbp> takyon: and yes you will need a client for the bouncer
[23:18:22] <mrcoolbp> forgot to mention that I think
[23:18:23] * Ethanol-fueled uses mIRC and Smuxi, both suck shit.
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[23:18:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Seriously, words in smuxi are split between one side of the chat and the other when they wrap.
[23:18:54] <takyon_> what to heck
[23:19:16] <chromas> if yo'ure interested in a text mode client, there's only about 50,000 of them
[23:19:32] * Ethanol-fueled frets what he gonna do when his 29-day trial period of free mIRC expires.
[23:19:41] <takyon_> i need the pretty icons
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[23:23:41] <chromas> Time-limited software trials are one of the few things the internet has yet to solve
[23:28:04] <exec> 05*** SN funding has changed from $3,120 to $3,139
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[23:31:54] <mrcoolbp> juggs/paulej72: takyon would like a bouncer login
[23:33:28] <takyon> enough of that web client
[23:35:33] <Ethanol-fueled> I can't even access the webchat.
[23:38:38] <takyon> it worked ok, but it couldn't handle my bad connection
[23:42:31] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled: you aren't missin' nothing, the thing is just "okay", but useful when I'm not at my computer = )
[23:43:11] <chromas> If you have a phone or tablet you can connect through it :D
[23:43:55] <takyon> does Apple still make you pay $99 to join the dev club
[23:44:03] <takyon> I think it's time for an Apple Watch IRC client
[23:45:45] <takyon> it will use haptic feedback every time someone posts, but stronger feedback if your name is mentioned
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