#Soylent | Logs for 2015-03-29

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[00:03:30] <SirFinkus> Graphene Turns Lead to Gold and Grants Immortality
[00:03:55] <SirFinkus> Graphene Space Elevators Could Exceed the Speed of Light
[00:05:12] <SirFinkus> Inexpensive Self-Sustaining Graphene Fusion Reactors Coming Soon
[00:06:20] <SirFinkus> Revolutionary Graphene Battery Powered Electric Car Can Travel 3000 Miles Before Requiring a Recharge
[00:07:22] <SirFinkus> Could Graphene be the Secret to Time Travel?
[00:08:17] <SirFinkus> Graphene Insulation Allows Researchers to Reach Absolute Zero
[00:08:47] <SirFinkus> Revolutionary Graphene Lubricant Eliminates Friction
[00:09:31] <SirFinkus> "Perpetual Motion Machine Built" Claim Graphene Researchers
[00:10:09] <SirFinkus> Graphene Based Anti-Cancer Vaccine Enters Human Clinical Trials
[00:10:21] <SirFinkus> *Begins
[00:10:32] <SirFinkus> I'd be a shitty editor
[00:12:35] <SirFinkus> Terrorists Seeking Graphene Bullets Deemed "Highly Effective" by Top Military Officials
[00:15:39] <SirFinkus> Graphene "Lightsabers" Sell Out in Hours: Hottest New Christmas Toy?
[00:15:57] <SirFinkus> that one needs a dumb pun
[00:24:23] <NCommander> [master 3aa19cc] Handle IPv6 Addresses
[00:24:23] <NCommander> 4 files changed, 214 insertions(+), 72 deletions(-)
[00:24:25] <NCommander> Boom :)
[00:24:32] <NCommander> The site will support IPv6 with the next upgrade \o/
[00:24:49] <SirFinkus> Neat
[00:25:25] <SirFinkus> New Graphene Routers Transparently Provide Universal IPv6 Support
[00:26:34] <SirFinkus> append , 0 latency
[00:58:22] <crutchy> is graphene the new teflon?
[00:58:50] <crutchy> hmm. hopefully its not the new asbestos
[00:59:47] <SirFinkus> actually, I've heard it fucks your lungs up pretty badly
[00:59:50] <paulej72> crutchy: people are worried that it might be
[01:00:02] <SirFinkus> insta-cancer if you breathe it
[01:00:03] <crutchy> all those little nanotubes gunna seep through the pores in our skin and form grey goo in our blood vessels
[01:00:10] <SirFinkus> luckily, I hear they're testing a new vaccine
[01:00:18] <crutchy> omg michael crichton was right!
[01:00:30] <SirFinkus> that was a stupid fucking book
[01:00:39] <crutchy> yeah not my favourite
[01:01:01] <crutchy> good from the point of view that it raised the issue though
[01:01:03] <paulej72> SirFinkus: the new vaccine is called death. It is 100% effective aginst cancer casued by graphine
[01:01:15] <SirFinkus> what about graphene though?
[01:01:26] <paulej72> that too
[01:01:32] <SirFinkus> grey goo has been a science fiction trope forever
[01:01:37] <crutchy> i was under the (possibly false) impression that its something nanotube related
[01:02:00] <paulej72> one of the labs at work does research on graphine
[01:02:07] <crutchy> SirFinkus, for sure, but michael crichton is like the oprah of tecchnological issues
[01:02:11] <SirFinkus> it was basically the andromeda strain with grey goo
[01:02:35] <SirFinkus> *was
[01:02:46] <crutchy> lol yeah was about to do that
[01:02:46] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[01:02:55] <SirFinkus> there was that other stupid fucking book he wrote
[01:02:58] <SirFinkus> sphere
[01:03:03] <SirFinkus> jesus christ
[01:03:06] <crutchy> haven't read that one
[01:03:14] <SirFinkus> save yourself the effort
[01:03:14] <crutchy> have you read micro?
[01:03:18] <SirFinkus> nope
[01:03:20] <crutchy> that was pretty interesting
[01:03:30] <crutchy> his last (incomplete) book
[01:03:32] <SirFinkus> there was a shitty movie too
[01:03:54] <crutchy> oh yeah i think i seen the movie
[01:04:05] <crutchy> about nightmares manifesting?
[01:04:37] <crutchy> would never have picked that theme as crichton tbh
[01:04:50] <crutchy> he was more into technothrillers
[01:05:09] <crutchy> not supernatural shit
[01:05:44] <SirFinkus> yes
[01:06:50] <crutchy> jurassic park movie was a terrible adaptation of his book
[01:07:04] <SirFinkus> the movie was still great fun though
[01:07:13] <crutchy> wasn't a bad movie on its own
[01:07:23] <crutchy> just a shitty adaptation
[01:07:29] <SirFinkus> and I care very little about artistic integrity when it comes to chrichton novels
[01:07:34] <crutchy> thankfully i saw the movie before reading the book
[01:07:41] <arti> i care about beef content.
[01:07:50] <crutchy> unfortunately i read the lost world before the movie came out, which kinda wrecked it
[01:08:01] <SirFinkus> it hit the only important parts anyway
[01:08:12] <SirFinkus> "theme park, dinosaurs, dinosaurs escape"
[01:08:15] <crutchy> i thought it missed a lot of the technical details
[01:08:18] <SirFinkus> not much else really matters
[01:08:26] <crutchy> ah yeah i guess. for a movie anyway
[01:08:41] <arti> mmm formula
[01:08:47] <arti> so how about avatar guyz
[01:08:52] <crutchy> i was really hoping to see the spinning 3D computer interface thingy
[01:08:57] <arti> i know this!
[01:09:08] <crutchy> avatar was a pretty cool movie
[01:09:33] <arti> http://giphy.com
[01:09:34] <crutchy> good one for big picture and sound. i got a decent sound system but only a 32 inch telly
[01:09:47] <arti> ^- jurassic park related
[01:09:59] <arti> just sit closer
[01:10:17] <crutchy> lol
[01:10:18] <ciri> lol damn!
[01:10:44] <crutchy> those damn velociraptors scared the shit outta me as a kid
[01:11:19] <crutchy> then they fucked it up in lost world by reducing them to clumsy sniveling retards
[01:11:55] <arti> clever girl
[01:12:05] <crutchy> yeah that bit was awesome
[01:12:36] <SirFinkus> avatar was shit
[01:12:39] <crutchy> don't see many movies where the creature/alien/dinosaur eats the guy's face off
[01:12:58] <crutchy> (while he's still screaming)
[01:13:07] <SirFinkus> also, the special effects in Jurassic park still stand up pretty well
[01:13:12] <arti> ARRRRRRRggguglr---
[01:13:20] <arti> yeah, they do. lighting++
[01:13:31] <SirFinkus> mostly practical, cgi wasn't quite a huge thing yet
[01:13:47] <SirFinkus> practical effects nearly always look better
[01:13:50] <crutchy> that helicopter pilot chick in avatar is hot
[01:14:12] <SirFinkus> speaking of http://io9.com
[01:14:14] <crutchy> fuck natiri or whatever her name is
[01:14:28] <SirFinkus> a pity they don't really do this much anymore
[01:14:46] <arti> 2015 man, flying cars and offworld colonies
[01:14:50] <crutchy> and why the hell did they turn ripley into a whiny nerd?
[01:14:57] <arti> also, hill valley
[01:14:59] <crutchy> that ruined it for me
[01:15:11] <SirFinkus> they should use models as much as they can, and supplement with CGI only when they have to
[01:15:21] <arti> i think the last movie to really do that well was LOTR right?
[01:15:24] <arti> FOTR
[01:15:33] <SirFinkus> maybe
[01:15:34] <arti> sounds like dragon tongue chants
[01:15:42] <SirFinkus> the later ones certainly not
[01:15:49] <SirFinkus> and the fucking hobbit
[01:15:50] <arti> nuh uh, hobbit was REEEAAALZ
[01:16:06] <crutchy> still haven't seen the nasty hobbitses
[01:16:10] <SirFinkus> and the lighting in the hobbit SUCKS
[01:16:12] * arti will dig up an edit
[01:16:18] <SirFinkus> especially the last one
[01:16:28] <arti> it's by a fan that cuts out most of the extra crap
[01:16:31] <SirFinkus> they have this weird hdr bloomy shit in every scene
[01:16:39] <arti> because magic
[01:16:52] <crutchy> because they gotta show up michael bay somehow
[01:17:02] <arti> lol, transformers
[01:17:05] <SirFinkus> I'd still like to see the 48fps version
[01:17:23] <SirFinkus> actually, shockingly, the new star trek movies are pretty good for proper use of CGI
[01:17:25] <arti> LOTR:HOBBITS the soap
[01:17:47] <SirFinkus> lots of practical effects, use of CGI when shit is impossible
[01:17:49] <arti> i'm curious what starwars will be like
[01:17:59] <crutchy> i made the mistake of seeing dark side of the moon at the cinema. i still remember the eye strain from the frame skipping or whetever the hell was going on in that movie
[01:18:20] <arti> sure it wasn't all the alcohol flowing through your veins?
[01:18:26] <SirFinkus> oh, and they need to go back to the manually drawn lightsabers
[01:18:34] <SirFinkus> tos lightsabers are much better
[01:18:44] <SirFinkus> the old ones were so flickery and seemed so powerful
[01:18:45] <arti> more cg yoda
[01:18:58] <crutchy> alcohol might have helped. if i had've realised in advance i would have had a shot beforehand
[01:19:00] <SirFinkus> like their power was barely being contained
[01:19:01] <arti> wonder if there's a desktop toy yoda
[01:19:07] <arti> "found, the files are"
[01:19:18] <SirFinkus> unstable, like an arc of electricity
[01:19:28] <SirFinkus> now they're boring laser beams
[01:19:45] <arti> maybe its plasma
[01:20:01] <arti> because the storm troopers blasts float slower than a beam would
[01:20:08] <crutchy> there was a final fantasy film that i really liked. the one with the ghost monster thingys
[01:20:13] <arti> yeah like 2002?
[01:20:25] <arti> supposed to be amazing technology for movies and it was never used again after that
[01:20:31] <arti> "whelp."
[01:20:33] <crutchy> so uncivilized
[01:20:40] <arti> great name for your game btw
[01:21:12] <SirFinkus> the lightsabers in the new films based on the trailers are better than those 3 recent movies, but they went more for "fire" than "electricity"
[01:21:19] <SirFinkus> suppose that's an interpretation though
[01:21:37] <crutchy> i don't get why the stormtroopers never used the same force fields as the robots that roll around before they stop and start shooting
[01:21:51] <crutchy> they were awesome
[01:21:53] <SirFinkus> I prefer the idea of wielding a barely contained electrical arc
[01:21:56] <arti> maybe it was licensed
[01:22:08] <arti> intergalatic ip
[01:22:22] <arti> sirfinkus, i think that's the dark side's force blast thing
[01:22:23] <SirFinkus> that shit's easy to handwave though crutchy
[01:22:40] <arti> also known as the solicitors bain
[01:22:44] <SirFinkus> too much radiation inside the field for creatures to survive
[01:22:51] <SirFinkus> or any other bullshit
[01:22:58] <crutchy> didn't they have al foil in the future?
[01:23:00] <arti> just use some rad-x
[01:23:06] <SirFinkus> or vodka
[01:23:08] <crutchy> could have blocked the jedi mind tricks
[01:23:22] <arti> http://fallout.wikia.com
[01:23:38] <arti> has the link title bot been silenced?
[01:23:59] <arti> btw, the blade runner link is full of awesome photos, thanks for sharing.
[01:24:07] <SirFinkus> http://stalker.wikia.com
[01:25:09] * crutchy has never seen bladerunner
[01:25:17] <crutchy> guess i prolly should one day
[01:25:52] <arti> it's pretty cool
[01:25:55] <crutchy> its prolly like not seeing the original tron, which i still live in blasphemy for not seeing yet
[01:26:19] * arti likes the atmosphere
[01:26:33] <crutchy> tron legacy was ok
[01:26:41] <SirFinkus> oh, the new car movie coming out is all practical effects I've heard
[01:26:46] <crutchy> but only cos daft punk made it so
[01:26:54] <SirFinkus> what was it called again? it's a remake
[01:27:18] <crutchy> a new nightrider?
[01:27:26] <SirFinkus> Mad Max
[01:27:41] <crutchy> mad_max++
[01:27:41] <Bender> karma - mad_max: 1
[01:27:45] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[01:27:52] <crutchy> before mel gibson turned ghey
[01:28:53] <SirFinkus> looks like there is some cgi, but all the cars and shit are real
[01:28:56] <SirFinkus> I read something about it
[01:29:24] <arti> looks like rage
[01:29:51] <crutchy> they should make a movie out of the interstate '82 game
[01:30:03] <crutchy> hmm. or i guess that's pretty much what mad max was
[01:30:42] <crutchy> but they need moar vehicle guns
[01:39:21] * SirFinkus begins the drinking process
[01:41:28] <crutchy> is 1pm too early to drink?
[01:41:40] <crutchy> dammit my weekend is already nearly over :(
[01:41:51] <arti> nah, that's plenty of reason
[01:42:33] <SirFinkus> nearly 7 here
[01:42:35] <SirFinkus> and no
[01:42:48] <crutchy> i'm putting a memo together to pitch releasing the work wiki app as foss
[01:42:54] <SirFinkus> noon is the first socially acceptable time to have a beer, not hard liquor though
[01:42:59] <SirFinkus> and with lunch
[01:46:27] <crutchy> ~last nick=ciri channel=# message=spoon
[01:46:29] <exec> 03[2015-03-28 18:29:20] # <ciri> exec: Suspiciously blows a spoon of coffee.
[01:47:27] <crutchy> ~last nick=ciri channel=# message=mom
[01:47:29] <exec> 03[2015-03-29 00:29:20] # <ciri> exec: You should feel bad. I called them chocolate abortions. Some lama big special sauce. Your mom is a corruption of government.
[01:47:42] <crutchy> ~last nick=ciri channel=# message=yo mama
[01:47:44] <exec> 03[2015-03-27 23:04:14] # <ciri> chromas: Yo mama is maul smelly else farts xlefay robot noses.
[01:47:57] <crutchy> lol
[01:47:58] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[01:48:10] * SirFinkus actually agrees with ciri
[01:48:40] <crutchy> you just got too many brain cells clogging your funny pipes
[01:48:57] <SirFinkus> I doubt it
[01:49:02] <SirFinkus> I found this hilarious after all
[01:49:03] <SirFinkus> http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com
[01:49:13] <SirFinkus> nsfw, in case you haven't guessed by the url
[01:52:10] <crutchy> i need moar coffee
[01:57:03] <crutchy> is there a protocol like irc where clients can connect to multiple servers simultaneously so that if one server goes down there is no interruption to the client?
[01:57:38] <SirFinkus> for chatroom type stuff?
[01:58:07] <crutchy> to prevent netsplits
[01:58:12] <SirFinkus> because otherwise I can think of about a million
[01:58:43] <SirFinkus> there are a few p2p implementations of stuff like that
[01:58:52] <SirFinkus> I think one was called waste or something
[01:59:05] <crutchy> cool
[01:59:16] <crutchy> p2p irc seems like a good idea
[01:59:35] <crutchy> prolly a bit wasteful
[01:59:36] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[01:59:43] <crutchy> guess that's why they called it waste :p
[01:59:45] <SirFinkus> although it's more filesharringish
[02:01:07] <arti> waste isn't irc
[02:01:29] <crutchy> though ability to just connect to 2 irc servers in the same network simultaneously would prolly be good enough
[02:01:30] <SirFinkus> obviously
[02:01:32] <arti> the way to get around splits is to connect via multiple servers
[02:01:46] <SirFinkus> but it is similar in some ways
[02:02:03] <SirFinkus> as far as usage goes
[02:02:03] <arti> iirc a botnet made use of waste protocol
[02:02:32] <SirFinkus> wouldn't be shocked, although IRC probably would be better for that
[02:02:51] <SirFinkus> since with waste you need to poke holes in firewalls and such
[02:03:21] <arti> irc only scales up so high
[02:03:35] <arti> the issue with waste was scaling as well
[02:03:46] <arti> cool for 20-40k nodes
[02:04:00] <SirFinkus> I don't really see the advantage of using it over irc though for botnet control
[02:04:15] <SirFinkus> I could be utterly full of shit though
[02:04:30] * crutchy wonders if a client could be developed to connect to multiple irc servers but present as a single nick
[02:04:53] <crutchy> prolly only for that client i guess. everyone else would see 2 nicks
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[02:05:10] <SirFinkus> irc is so old, I'm sure such a thing has been developed if it's practical
[02:05:40] <SirFinkus> iirc, the whole multiple servers thing is kind of a hack anyway
[02:05:55] <arti> how is it a hack?
[02:05:56] <ciri> you talking to me?
[02:06:08] <paulej72> crutchy: just tested ssl on irc-dev and it was fine for me.
[02:06:29] <crutchy> problem is it seems irc is a big ship to steer, so any changes to the protocol would be met with massive resistance
[02:06:49] <arti> "i'm suffering connectivity issues with a single server, multiple exist in the network, connecting to other servers in the network is totally a hack"
[02:07:11] <SirFinkus> well, I think when IRC was written, the idea was that there would be more servers
[02:07:17] <crutchy> * Looking up irc-dev.soylentnews.org
[02:07:17] <crutchy> * Connecting to irc-dev.soylentnews.org (72.14.184.41) port 6697...
[02:07:17] <crutchy> * Connected. Now logging in...
[02:07:17] <crutchy> * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
[02:07:33] <arti> you've been defeated.
[02:07:34] <SirFinkus> instead of having monolitic networks with a bunch of channels
[02:07:42] <arti> please insert more soylent bux to continue.
[02:07:46] <crutchy> lol
[02:07:56] <SirFinkus> so it wasn't designed to have multiple servers hosting the same networks
[02:08:28] <arti> if i wrote an ircd i'd have it support multiple protocols
[02:08:36] <SirFinkus> anyway, it's been a while since I've seen a netsplit, are they really such a big deal?
[02:08:41] <arti> :|
[02:08:55] <crutchy> arti, and each nick should have ability to have multiple connections
[02:08:59] <SirFinkus> I get one like, once ever 6 months connected to 3 different networks
[02:09:04] <crutchy> sort of like Subsentient's nexus
[02:09:34] <arti> how do you authenticate?
[02:09:36] <crutchy> but would also enable server-server multiple connections for each nick
[02:09:38] <SirFinkus> I'm in a few cross network channels where bots forward stuff between networks
[02:09:43] <paulej72> hrmm
[02:09:50] <crutchy> arti, same as for each connection atm
[02:09:54] <crutchy> nickserv i guess
[02:10:02] <SirFinkus> pubic keys!
[02:10:06] <arti> the nick needs to be unique though
[02:10:27] <paulej72> try connecting without logging in
[02:10:45] <crutchy> yeah i guess if you just connected without nickserv then anyone could hijack yer nick
[02:11:08] <crutchy> same issue paulej72
[02:11:14] <paulej72> ns is running, but ther may be some issue that we need to track down
[02:11:16] <SirFinkus> I did have an idea for an irc like network where you could verify each message was sent by the person who was supposed to have sent it
[02:11:45] <SirFinkus> append a few bytes of a hash of the message and the timestamp to each message
[02:12:27] <SirFinkus> I figure that individual messages would be fairly easy to fake, but conversations would be almost impossible
[02:13:53] <crutchy> maybe when you connect once you get a connection hash that you have to use in any subsequent connections as same nick
[02:14:18] <SirFinkus> naw, if you have the private key for a nick, you're golden
[02:14:31] <SirFinkus> why complicate it with connection hashes?
[02:14:48] <crutchy> private key is basically a hash i guess
[02:14:57] <crutchy> of sorts
[02:15:12] <crutchy> bunch of characters
[02:15:18] <SirFinkus> basically, I'm thinking of GPG encrypted email
[02:15:27] <crutchy> ah
[02:15:56] <SirFinkus> same model, except more efficient, because adding full sized sigs to every message on an irc channel would be a nightmare
[02:16:02] <arti> so unicode is terrible to support though right?
[02:16:25] <SirFinkus> why would it be?
[02:16:53] <paulej72> maybe the new server hates you crutchy
[02:16:58] <crutchy> i think irc servers handle unicode with capab flags
[02:17:04] <arti> https://www.schneier.com
[02:17:12] <crutchy> paulej72, i think so :p
[02:17:25] <crutchy> but it lets me in on 667 so i'm happy enough
[02:18:27] <SirFinkus> maybe I'm missing something but I don't see how that interferes with signing and encrypting messages
[02:18:50] <arti> for that use case, no.
[02:19:05] <arti> for writing an ircd, maybe
[02:19:16] <SirFinkus> I mean, I can encrypt a file with whatever I want in it, and sign it so that you can verify it came from me, why wouldn't I be able to do that with arbitrary unicode?
[02:19:44] <crutchy> connection hash would seem easier than encrypting every message, since the hash would only need to be added as another parameter to a nick message
[02:19:51] <arti> depends if you're using unicode strings for processing text
[02:20:11] <SirFinkus> maybe, but wouldn't that be a problem ircd would have anyway?
[02:20:21] <SirFinkus> provided it supports unicode
[02:20:38] <SirFinkus> I'm not sure how adding encryption exacerbates the issue
[02:20:52] <arti> hence unicode is terrible to support on an ircd.
[02:21:11] <arti> the file transfer stuff is client side, ya?
[02:21:13] <arti> CTCP
[02:21:40] <arti> omg this rat dog and its yips
[02:21:54] <SirFinkus> well, for a new protocol, you wouldn't use irc-style filesharing
[02:22:10] <arti> would it be better to do it peer based or server?
[02:22:31] <arti> pros and cons to both, server can facilitate everything keeping users isolated from one another
[02:22:51] <SirFinkus> I like p2p, it's more interesting
[02:23:06] <arti> i think winny has a pretty anon way of doing communication
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[02:23:11] <arti> er, share
[02:23:18] <arti> greetings
[02:23:23] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[02:23:26] <SirFinkus> naw, winny has been broken forever
[02:23:41] <SirFinkus> along with most of the other darknet clients
[02:23:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - From Australia: Legislation for Counter Piracy and Data Retention - http://sylnt.us - not-so-free-world
[02:23:49] <SirFinkus> like perfect dark and share
[02:23:50] <crutchy> arti, maybe i should have a go at implementing multiple client connections using existing hexchat. not sure how to send the connection hash but maybe there's some way to sneak it in. maybe added to the nick itself. ie: /nick crutchy658dssdfdfhifhu3ihwfh
[02:24:13] <SirFinkus> all closed source too
[02:24:31] <crutchy> if a new nick matches an existing nick+hash it connects new client as same nick
[02:24:38] <SirFinkus> interesting ideas though, freenet is still kicking I think
[02:24:46] <SirFinkus> and is open source
[02:24:59] <SirFinkus> probably mostly kiddy porn, I don't think it's very popular
[02:25:53] <SirFinkus> that's the other problem with these distributed file sharing networks
[02:26:25] <SirFinkus> they're in a legal and moral grey area because they force you to host content you may not want to
[02:26:39] <arti> crutchy, if you have client side scripting abilities
[02:26:48] <arti> and the client supports multiple connections natively (or sockets)
[02:27:01] <crutchy> i reckon i might be able to get it to work just using standard xchat
[02:27:11] <arti> just create another buffer with unique messages from both connections.
[02:27:15] <crutchy> the custom part would be in the ircd script
[02:29:14] Ethanol-fueled is now known as a2345678901234567890
[02:29:33] a2345678901234567890 is now known as san_diego_super_lose
[02:29:46] <san_diego_super_lose> exactly 20 chars.
[02:29:50] <crutchy> i'll try set up my little ircd script so that i can make 2 connections to it with xchat and have the server treat both as the same nick (using a connection hash for 2nd connection)
[02:29:51] san_diego_super_lose is now known as Ethanol-fueled
[02:30:01] <SirFinkus> http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com
[02:30:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Haahahah
[02:30:38] <SirFinkus> http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com might make you feel better
[02:31:23] <Ethanol-fueled> wasn't trying to shit up your guys' discussion.
[02:32:37] * arti is reading stuff
[02:32:38] <arti> http://en.wikipedia.org
[02:33:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Thift looks pretty badass.
[02:34:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, the Chargers' greedy owner is saying that the Chargers are going to move to L.A. if the taxpayers don't buy the chargers a new stadium.
[02:34:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Carson, to be specific. A big dump that's one large industrial zone, so south of L.A. nobody in their right mind would go.
[02:34:53] <SirFinkus> Fuck em then, I don't want to spend tax dollars on sports stadiums
[02:35:02] <Ethanol-fueled> And the best part is that the proposal for that new stadium is for the Chargers to share it with the Raiders!
[02:35:13] <SirFinkus> not that I would in this instance, but still
[02:35:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, with all the money the NFL and its players and owners have, making the taxpayers pay is bullshit.
[02:35:45] <SirFinkus> NFL is a non-profit too
[02:36:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup. Chargers won't fucking move. The stadium they have is in a pretty bitchin place next to all kinds of malls and the trolley stop. They ain't gonna trade that for a dumb like Carson.
[02:36:32] <Ethanol-fueled> s/dumb/dump/g
[02:36:32] <sedctl> <Ethanol-fueled> Yup. Chargers won't fucking move. The stadium they have is in a pretty bitchin place next to all kinds of malls and the trolley stop. They ain't gonna trade that for a dump like Carson.
[02:36:35] <arti> i hope carson never goes through
[02:36:45] <Ethanol-fueled> why, arti?
[02:36:49] <arti> 405 is already busy enough
[02:36:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, right...man, that would suck ass for you guys.
[02:37:28] <arti> id be all for it if moving people around were more efficient
[02:37:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I know firsthand how having a local stadium shits up traffic....might as well not even go to/from work that day unless you want to spend a few hours in bumper-to-bumper
[02:38:28] <SirFinkus> I wish more cities were bike and pedestrian centric
[02:38:40] <Ethanol-fueled> That would be nice.
[02:39:02] <Ethanol-fueled> As much trash as I talk about cyclists here, I so wish that were the case.
[02:39:02] <SirFinkus> it's ironic that LA would probably be one of the better places to commute on a bike (weather etc) but the city itself is so sprawling it makes it difficult
[02:39:06] <arti> "When you feel the urge to design a complex binary file format, or a complex binary application protocol, it is generally wise to lie down until the feeling passes. If performance is what you're worried about, implementing compression on the text protocol stream either at some level below or above the application protocol will give you a cleaner and perhaps better-performing design than a
[02:39:07] <arti> binary protocol (text compresses well, and quickly)."
[02:39:49] <arti> california is hosed traffic wise
[02:39:53] <arti> so cal*
[02:40:03] <Ethanol-fueled> true 'dat, arti.
[02:40:03] <arti> vast majority of vehicles are single user
[02:40:08] <SirFinkus> my city has a pretty good bike infrastructure, it's awesome
[02:40:26] <SirFinkus> the bike paths are always pretty busy
[02:40:30] * arti hucks kitkat bites at finkus
[02:40:39] <SirFinkus> lots of cars not on the road
[02:40:48] * SirFinkus catches them in his mouth
[02:40:50] <arti> defeats the purpose of the roads :P
[02:41:17] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: are you still having issues posting to the site?
[02:41:37] <paulej72> we could not find any specific bans aginst you
[02:41:40] <SirFinkus> you do need to go down a huge fucking hill to get downtown though, but there's not much that can be done about that
[02:41:59] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, only the I.p. I'm using now doesn't work. Or at least it didnt last night. I did manage to post logged in while not at this IP.
[02:42:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I think I got trashed and spammed anonymously (possibly logged in with the post anon box checked) on Sunday under this IP. If I didn't, I have no idea why I was banned.
[02:42:54] <paulej72> If you get the full error to me I can track that down easier. It should have eht IPID in the error.
[02:43:16] <SirFinkus> I thought spam mods were manually approved or something
[02:43:28] <chromas> Manually disproved
[02:43:31] <SirFinkus> the ban stuff anyway
[02:44:02] <paulej72> there is an auto troll ban the if you have 4 downmods in 72 hours on a single ipid or subnet id you can possibly be banned
[02:44:21] <SirFinkus> well, that's stupid
[02:44:25] <arti> really?
[02:44:31] <paulej72> if you karma's good enough it can pull you out of the ban
[02:44:39] <arti> by default or after review?
[02:45:10] * arti needs more downvote sock puppets
[02:45:16] <paulej72> temporary as after 72 hours of no posing you will be unbanned
[02:45:28] <SirFinkus> but if I'm a new member and I make a post and 4 people disagree with me, I get banned for 72 hours?
[02:45:39] <arti> hahaha
[02:45:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, comment posting has temporarily been disabled. If it's you, consider this a chance to sit in the timeout corner. If it's someone else, this is a chance to hunt them down. If you think this is unfair, please email admin@soylentnews.org with your MD5'd IPID and SubnetID, which are "c3690fbd7b811c8b942e0408798ff439" and "03588caf9d954263e8d130b7d604b30d" and (optionally, but prefera
[02:45:42] <SirFinkus> if that happened to me after I joined, I'd leave and never come back
[02:45:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, that's my IP. So fucking what. Hack me!
[02:46:01] <arti> http://memedepot.com
[02:47:16] <crutchy> paulej72, i was banned for 3 ac posts modded spam, but even with 50 karma i couldn't post even as myself
[02:47:29] <crutchy> similar msg to e-f
[02:47:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, I didn't know about that pauley...awhile ago I had 5 comments modded to -1, for a total karma loss of 10 points.
[02:48:13] <Ethanol-fueled> damn, pauley, I think that's a little extreme...if you're in a heated discussion and post something controversial, it may mean that people are silenced for being just that.
[02:48:25] <crutchy> hmm. /me wonders if he's still banned
[02:48:47] <SirFinkus> yeah, that shit needs to be fixed
[02:49:01] <crutchy> oh. i was able to post a journal as myself during the ban. not sure if that helps any
[02:49:23] <arti> "now go to your room, and think about what you've said!"
[02:49:29] <Ethanol-fueled> I posted a journal logged in on dev.soylentnews.org titled "the pink menace"
[02:49:43] <arti> yeah, those prolapses are really increasing.
[02:50:02] -!- takyon [takyon!~48d82d7d@bi31-970-11-641.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #Soylent
[02:50:13] <arti> wonder if a fabulous pinocchio has an effect like that
[02:50:24] <paulej72> OK Ethanol-fueled thatwas what I needed. I tracked down that ipid to a very low karma.
[02:50:40] <paulej72> your in karma hell on that ip address
[02:51:00] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, rules are rules and I repsect them. I can post from other ip, which means if I need a fix that badly I can just go to starbucks.
[02:51:23] <Ethanol-fueled> such is life as an inflammatory troll-shit.
[02:51:43] <arti> -1 disagree :P
[02:53:22] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: you need to spreadout your trolling to other networks :). I need to figure out how to fix this, without breaking shit.
[02:53:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, the number should probably be raised to, say, seven downmods since weekend stories are often troll or idle-style stories and one user could easily get 4 downmods in 72 hours, hell, 2 hours, making a good but controversial point in a big discussion.
[02:53:45] <Ethanol-fueled> got it, pauley. Like fix my Tor and whatnot.
[02:54:07] <paulej72> This is more of an automatic karma hell that is impossible to get out of
[02:54:29] <Ethanol-fueled> is it really impossible to get out of?
[02:54:50] <arti> here's how you do it!
[02:55:01] <arti> make more accounts, or have your posts upvoted
[02:55:05] <arti> :D
[02:55:19] <arti> begun, the upvote wars have.
[02:56:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Meh, I wasn't really surprised, just wanted confirmation.
[02:56:38] <crutchy> i have more fun trolling ciri than i do hairyfeet anyway
[02:57:04] <arti> !decide agree disagree
[02:57:05] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: agree.
[02:57:10] <arti> i, too, agree.
[02:57:28] <arti> !idle
[02:57:29] <ciri> diego hasn't said a word for 14168 minutes :/
[02:57:31] <crutchy> hairyfeet is too predictable, whereas i have absolutely nfi what ciri's gunna come up with :p
[02:57:50] <arti> .calc 14168 / 60 / 24 / 7
[02:57:51] <ciri> Expression: 14168 / 60 / 24 / 7 = 1
[02:58:11] <arti> !idle
[02:58:11] <ciri> diego hasn't said a word for 14169 minutes :/
[02:58:15] <Ethanol-fueled> hairyfeet has good posts about gaming, but there's too much righteous moralfaggotry there.
[02:58:17] <crutchy> .calc sqrt(sex)
[02:58:17] <ciri> Error: see .calc help
[02:58:27] <Ethanol-fueled> seek help, crutchy
[02:58:35] <arti> Ethanol-fueled: I'll have you know i've built gaming machines for $500!
[02:59:06] <Ethanol-fueled> that's not remarkable, arti.
[02:59:08] <arti> just imagine him speaking like flanders, it'll make it more fun
[02:59:15] <arti> hairy says stuff like that, fgt.
[02:59:21] <crutchy> arti, my last build was about AU$460, though i dunno if it could be called a gaming machine
[02:59:31] <arti> yeah it is, because it loses!
[02:59:35] <arti> ohsickburnbruh
[02:59:44] <Ethanol-fueled> HUHUHUHUHU
[02:59:47] <arti> hahaha
[02:59:47] <crutchy> lol
[02:59:51] <crutchy> flandereses
[03:00:05] <chromas> Fa-diddly-gots
[03:00:09] <arti> hahaha
[03:00:21] <crutchy> maybe i should call him a coconut
[03:00:28] <crutchy> like big kev :p
[03:00:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Flanders is a kiddy-dang-diddler
[03:01:02] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled would be able to appreciate the humor of Fat Pizza
[03:01:12] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, its on my bucket list.
[03:01:25] <arti> it's pretty good
[03:01:47] <arti> go through the epiodes with some mates, slowly working through
[03:01:49] <crutchy> totally rediculous, but about as politically incorrect as you can get away with on tv
[03:02:31] <arti> perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
[03:03:00] <crutchy> ooh. that statement looks almost pornographic
[03:03:26] <crutchy> i can see the woman in the red dress
[03:03:47] <arti> wonder if it tastes like tasty wheat
[03:04:00] <SirFinkus> lol The Other Site just posted another graphene story
[03:04:04] <SirFinkus> it never ends!
[03:04:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Slashdot is sad.
[03:04:39] <arti> lies! it doesn't feel
[03:04:59] <arti> btw we need more social issues
[03:05:09] <Ethanol-fueled> how about JADE HELM?
[03:05:10] <ciri> doing great here
[03:05:14] <SirFinkus> I have enough social issues
[03:05:16] <SirFinkus> tyvm
[03:06:12] <Ethanol-fueled> We need some Pro-Islam multiculturalism stories, with examples of successfuly integrated societies like England and Sweden.
[03:06:26] <arti> "successful"
[03:06:58] <arti> btw the whole shitstorm with the reddit ceo
[03:07:15] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, is that the woman who's trying to sue? Or is that a different company?
[03:07:43] <arti> correct
[03:07:45] <arti> tried.
[03:07:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup. Hahaha, greedy B**** just wanted money.
[03:07:53] <SirFinkus> I've had the #Isis channel running for like a week now, I'm still taking recruits
[03:08:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, creating your own proxy-army?
[03:08:28] <arti> yeah, looks like the husband is involved in a madoff style scam with firefighter and other funds to the tune of $140mil
[03:08:31] <Ethanol-fueled> I hope you have plenty of federal informant money to arm and train those folks.
[03:08:37] <SirFinkus> I wish
[03:08:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus arti, that's pretty tacky.
[03:09:06] <arti> so the word is this is her trying to help the cause
[03:09:30] * SirFinkus gains a recruit
[03:09:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, it's always some kind of "ism" -- sexism, racism,
[03:09:50] <arti> http://nypost.com
[03:09:51] <Ethanol-fueled> keeping the brothers and sisters down.
[03:10:04] <arti> Massachusetts and Louisiana cops and firefighters
[03:10:51] <crutchy> lmao
[03:11:01] <crutchy> 'they got the warming of the o-hole'
[03:12:48] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[03:19:20] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, we're looking at your ban problems, it was autodone by the site, we're trying to figure the sanest way to rework the feature
[03:19:51] <crutchy> lol 'spoofy'
[03:19:52] <ciri> rofl
[03:20:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Ncommander, don't hurt yourselves doing it. I'm not going to flip the fuck out. Pissing people off carries a price I'm well aware of :)
[03:21:03] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, well, as the feature is currently coded, you won't be unbanned without intervention
[03:21:15] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll get on somewhere else and submit some shit tomorrow, maybe post if I can. If you have an autobanning mechanism, 4 downmods within 72 hours is kind of harsh.
[03:21:19] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, we might just set logged in users to bypass subnet karma, I'm discussing it w/ paul.
[03:21:38] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, its -11 karma ona subnet, or 11 downmods starting from zero
[03:21:44] <NCommander> Positive karma on a subnet would have offset it
[03:22:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, rules are rules and I broke 'em. I'm not trippin'.
[03:22:46] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, I appreicate that, though this isn't a case where we would have banned you :)
[03:22:50] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm not going to punch a man in the face and then wonder why he called the cops on me, haha.
[03:23:35] <Ethanol-fueled> I've posted a lot of inflammatory shit lately. Maybe the crowd wants a break.
[03:24:20] <crutchy> lmao 'Kebab Qaeda'
[03:25:05] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, the AY-rabs are stepping up their game in the Middle-East. About damn time. I think it's hilarous that they've had their own forces all this time and have never used them.
[03:25:41] <Ethanol-fueled> If there's one thing I agree with that King Baraq Sotero is doing, it's telling the Ay-rabs to fight their own damn battles.
[03:26:44] <Ethanol-fueled> too bad they allowed Saleh to fall - he was a Saudi/American puppet who took money from us to let us have our way with his resident tarrorists.
[03:27:07] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: tracked down the var and we are going to make a change soonish
[03:29:33] <Ethanol-fueled> no worries, pauley. I appreciate the effort in it. But if you had let the ban stand, I wouldn't make any noise about it. It comes with the territory.
[03:29:59] <crutchy> 'guacamole bay'
[03:30:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Making a lot of noise on Slashdot after being banned was because being banned back then was kind of a novelty. Now, it's business as usual worth a chuckle rather than a rant.
[03:30:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Besides, I can still log in somewhere else and make posts.
[03:34:50] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: can you try it now
[03:35:08] <paulej72> I made the change and you should be able to comment logged in
[03:39:03] <Ethanol-fueled> No workie
[03:39:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Eh, don't worry about it. Not that big a deal.
[03:39:58] <Ethanol-fueled> The readership gets to not be offended, hahahah!
[03:41:13] <crutchy> paulej72, i still can't comment cos it says all that stuff with "comment posting has temporarily been disabled"
[03:41:27] <crutchy> but would be good to know roughly how long
[03:41:33] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, that's because you're a troll and you should be ashamed of yourself.
[03:41:37] <crutchy> am i banned for a month?
[03:41:42] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, yeah i know
[03:41:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Hang your head in shame. I'm waiting...
[03:41:52] <crutchy> tama lama ding dongs are offensive
[03:42:06] <paulej72> crutchy: paste the error and I'll look into it
[03:42:36] <crutchy> nah tis ok. i was just curious if you know roughly how long a ban lasts for
[03:42:42] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a project worthy in intent: to create a forum free of shitposts.
[03:42:50] <crutchy> sorry if you already might have said or if its written somewhere
[03:43:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Balancing the integrity of the discussion with free speech. In Perl. A burden worthy of respect.
[03:43:41] <crutchy> i don't post comments on SN that often anyway. yeah anything in perl is mad
[03:43:54] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: it should work now, I had to double restart for the var to set for some reason
[03:45:31] <paulej72> crutchy: you should be fixed now for normal logged in posting. AC is still blocked for both you and Ethanol-fueled
[03:46:09] <paulej72> but you should be able to post as AC while logged in
[03:47:11] <paulej72> crutchy: IPID Karma: -18 Subnet Karma: -18 Anonymous Posting Disabled
[03:47:11] <paulej72> (3 -10 spam posts will do that to ya)
[03:47:20] <Ethanol-fueled> It works now. Thanks Pauley!
[03:47:22] <crutchy> holy shit
[03:47:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Thanks NCommander
[03:47:51] <crutchy> my daughter just wandered down the hallway, turned around, farted in my direction and then wandered back
[03:48:37] <crutchy> maybe if i were a responsible parent i should be annoyed, but now i'm having trouble trying to stop myself from laughing
[03:48:44] <paulej72> I adjusted how long we keep the ipid logs so we can better monitor improper spams, but as a result the subnet bans become more of an issue.
[03:49:23] <paulej72> a normal partent should laugh their ass off
[03:49:37] <chromas> Bender: grab paulej72
[03:49:37] <Bender> Added quote 443
[03:49:39] <chromas> Bender: grab crutchy
[03:49:39] <Bender> Added quote 444
[03:49:49] <crutchy> how the hell does a fart like that come out of 6 yo
[03:49:49] <ciri> don't ask me!
[03:49:53] <chromas> Bender: grab crutchy
[03:49:53] <Bender> Added quote 445
[03:54:19] <crutchy> heh. now i'm an expert crocodile game putter-togetherer guy
[03:55:09] <paulej72> !grab crutchy
[03:55:09] <Bender> Added quote 446
[03:55:28] <paulej72> whats the crocodile game
[03:56:03] <crutchy> dunno. there's a plastic crocodile head with a bottom jaw that's got some little rubber band things that gotta go on hooks
[03:56:12] <crutchy> bit fiddly but eventually got it
[04:03:50] <crutchy> its called 'dino dinner'
[04:03:52] <crutchy> i guess its not a crocodile
[04:04:10] <Ethanol-fueled> is it like hungry hungry hippos?
[04:04:34] <crutchy> nah its one of those jenga/kerplunk sort of games
[04:04:51] <paulej72> http://www.amazon.com
[04:05:19] <crutchy> yeah that's the one
[04:06:30] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[04:10:52] <paulej72> that is evil SirFinkus
[04:11:08] <crutchy> bugger. my sennheisers can only go down to about 25 hz
[04:11:25] <paulej72> no brown note for you crutchy
[04:11:47] <crutchy> my old panasonics can go down to about 19
[04:12:04] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[04:12:16] <crutchy> ~title https://www.youtube.com
[04:12:20] <exec> 13Bass Test - 2000Hz - 1Hz. (Test your Subwoofer or Headphones, how low can you go :) ?) - YouTube
[04:12:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Nah, that's allright.
[04:12:49] <Ethanol-fueled> My neighbor moved out. I won using A=440.
[04:13:07] <Ethanol-fueled> You can't fight a creature that's immune to bass with....more bass.
[04:13:22] * SirFinkus just got a new amp
[04:13:30] * crutchy wonders what it would do to a 10" sub
[04:13:31] <paulej72> my lappy dies at 120
[04:13:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, what make and model?
[04:13:39] <SirFinkus> the low frequencies travel further, but the high ones are annoying as shit
[04:13:47] <SirFinkus> peavey studio pro 40
[04:13:49] <SirFinkus> it was free
[04:13:58] <SirFinkus> and loud enough to annoy the neighbors
[04:14:05] <arti> o.o
[04:14:10] <arti> your headphones?
[04:14:17] * arti has flashbacks to gta3
[04:14:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Gawd Finkus, I'm sorry.
[04:14:24] <crutchy> yeah i think you need better amp for the really low frequencies
[04:14:36] <crutchy> mine is only 120WRMS
[04:14:37] <arti> neat: http://i.4cdn.org
[04:14:40] <SirFinkus> free shit? I'm not complaining
[04:15:27] <SirFinkus> the clean tones aren't half bad imo
[04:15:40] <SirFinkus> the distortion sucks though
[04:16:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, the distortion on every amp like that sucks.
[04:16:46] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, is that for your headphone amp?
[04:16:59] <crutchy> hmm. nope sry looks like its 16W
[04:17:02] <crutchy> 160W
[04:17:03] <SirFinkus> I'd been using my computer to that point, so it's infinitely better than that
[04:17:08] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, nah for the sub
[04:17:18] <crutchy> its a Jensen SPX-17
[04:17:19] <crutchy> http://www.jensenspeakers.com.au
[04:17:37] <Ethanol-fueled> I was kidding, fucker.
[04:17:57] <arti> those are pretty
[04:18:04] <SirFinkus> gives me practice on muting feedback and such
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[04:19:46] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, those are some mean subs...those like 10-inchers? *PHHHBBFFFFFFT*
[04:20:08] <crutchy> not the biggest, but they flap like yo mama :p
[04:21:19] <crutchy> good for movies. music doesn't seem to do it justice much. the mains handle most of that
[04:21:46] <crutchy> put a movie on and you can feel it in yer bones
[04:24:29] <arti> the most epic sound was in war of the worlds, the horn thingy
[04:24:46] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[04:25:10] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[04:25:20] <Subsentient> Wait, title bot is gone
[04:25:25] <Subsentient> $cycle autotitle on
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[04:25:28] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[04:25:28] <aqu4> Channel cycle complete.
[04:25:35] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HX74UhgMFA": "3The Glitch Mob - Fortune days - YouTube"
[04:26:11] <crutchy> lmao
[04:26:16] <crutchy> "This is the sound of the aftermath when I eat to much chilli beans..."
[04:26:17] <Ethanol-fueled> arti: that sounded like a foghorn or the fart of a fatman.
[04:26:22] <arti> is this what you listen to when you wiggle around naked inside of a beanbag chair Subsentient?
[04:26:59] <Subsentient> arti: As I am a white rat, I'm always naked. I prefer to scare people by coming out of their couch.
[04:27:01] <arti> crutchy, i've heard that sound on a massive speaker (i r audio noobz)
[04:27:10] <arti> Subsentient: cooch :D
[04:27:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Bow to infinitely-rising pitch
[04:27:20] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:27:21] <TheMightyJuggs> ^ 03Shepard Tone - YouTube
[04:27:21] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzNzgsAE4F0": "3Shepard Tone - YouTube"
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[04:27:45] <arti> the sound of inflation
[04:30:47] <SirFinkus> idk, doesn't work on me
[04:33:13] <paulej72> bed time for me folks
[04:33:34] <paulej72> laters all
[04:33:40] <arti> later massa
[04:33:40] <SirFinkus> night
[04:33:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Lata pauley. Thanks!
[04:34:22] <paulej72> no problem Ethanol-fueled I would have got it fixed sooner, but I missed you the last two times I saw you here.
[04:35:45] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm one shitposter among a sea of good intent. Good to see that devils' advocates are well-protected here.
[04:37:09] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAH @ arti's "massa" comment.
[04:37:46] <crutchy> occasionally i come back to this just to see what this guy's fingers can do to a neck. porn for my ears. https://www.youtube.com
[04:37:48] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVKACGr2bFs": "3Zomboy - Nuclear (Guitar Cover) - YouTube"
[04:37:53] <Ethanol-fueled> what's up Subsentient.
[04:38:07] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: the gerbils will feast on thy flesh
[04:38:23] <Ethanol-fueled> How could such a polymorphously perverse individual exist in Arizona?
[04:39:04] <chromas> he's an anomaly
[04:39:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient: I hope that, when they do, my shits are rich with nutrients.
[04:39:07] <chromas> he's…the one
[04:39:17] <arti> pooping a lot means you're healty :D
[04:39:24] <arti> healthy :D:D
[04:39:29] <chromas> I think there's a bell curve in there
[04:39:36] <arti> also, ball curve
[04:39:43] <chromas> ding!
[04:40:01] <arti> shawing
[04:40:12] * arti waits for pasta to boil
[04:40:14] <arti> :S
[04:40:32] <crutchy> what happened to moropory?
[04:40:41] <arti> u want prey game?
[04:42:05] <crutchy> lmao
[04:42:10] <crutchy> the comments in youtube
[04:42:23] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[04:42:24] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSrfwBSZJyU": "3Knife Party - Centipede (Guitar Cover) - YouTube"
[04:43:05] <crutchy> http://paste.my.to
[04:43:06] <aqu4> No title found.
[04:43:53] <arti> found it!
[04:46:17] <crutchy> "This is what happens when try hard fags get internet."
[04:48:47] <SirFinkus> I don't understand why people are so impressed by this
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[04:49:11] <prospectacle> afternoon
[04:49:57] <crutchy> James Wiggins
[04:49:58] <crutchy> 3 months ago
[04:49:58] <crutchy>
[04:49:58] <crutchy> anyone wht hes playing on
[04:49:58] <crutchy> Reply
[04:49:58] <crutchy> ·
[04:49:59] <ciri> 4
[04:50:00] <crutchy> Darth Potato
[04:50:00] <ciri> 5
[04:50:02] <crutchy> 3 months ago
[04:50:02] <ciri> 6
[04:50:04] <crutchy>
[04:50:04] <ciri> 7
[04:50:05] <SirFinkus> honestly don't look more complex than an average metal song, which isn't super complex
[04:50:06] <ciri> 8
[04:50:08] <crutchy> It looks to me that it's a guitar.
[04:50:08] <ciri> 9
[04:50:10] <crutchy> lmao
[04:50:10] <ciri> 10!
[04:50:14] <ciri> 4
[04:50:16] <ciri> 5
[04:50:18] <ciri> 6
[04:50:20] <ciri> 7
[04:50:22] <ciri> 8
[04:50:24] <ciri> 9
[04:50:26] <ciri> 10!
[04:50:33] <crutchy> err. ciri?
[04:50:59] <crutchy> oh yes there was two threes
[04:53:55] <prospectacle> Is this really the standard of beauty we want to set: http://www.clickhole.com
[04:53:56] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.clickhole.com/article/what-would-it-be-if-real-woman-had-furbys-proporti-1698": "3What Would It Be Like If A Real Woman Had Furby’s... | ClickHole"
[04:58:16] <chromas> furbys_clickhole++
[04:58:16] <Bender> karma - furbys_clickhole: 1
[05:04:25] <prospectacle> What?! I'm amazed its karma is so low.
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[05:07:56] <SirFinkus> I got my new debit card today, the font for the numbers is hideous
[05:09:40] <chromas> Is it papyrus?
[05:09:50] <SirFinkus> it looks like arial
[05:09:58] <chromas> needs comic sans ms
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[05:10:43] <SirFinkus> I'd take a picture, but yeah
[05:11:37] <prospectacle> Just rearrange them in mspaint, blurring all the edges of each number-section so we can't tell what joins with what. Should only take you an hour or so
[05:11:55] <prospectacle> then we can all sympathise
[05:12:05] <prospectacle> oh wait mspaint doesn't have a blur feature
[05:12:06] <prospectacle> never mind
[05:12:19] <chromas> it might. recent versions are fancier
[05:12:41] <chromas> even has the Ribbon®™&©
[05:14:39] <chromas> Doing an image search, all the ones with that type of font also lack relieved characters
[05:15:02] <chromas> http://www.derrycu.com
[05:15:11] <aqu4> No title found.
[05:26:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Deltawing Cars to Stretch the Reign of Internal Combustion Engine Manufacturers - http://sylnt.us - show-me-the-family-model
[05:26:04] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/rmu0c": "3Deltawing Cars to Stretch the Reign of Internal Combustion Engine Manufacturers - SoylentNews"
[05:36:04] <prospectacle> alright! 103wpm 99% accuracy (although I only did it for a minute)
[05:36:11] <prospectacle> I think that's a personal best
[05:38:50] <crutchy> http://irciv.us.to
[05:38:50] <aqu4> Title for page "http://irciv.us.to/heh.htm": "3heh
💩ACTION chucks a nasty rotten burrito at itself💩"
[05:39:06] <crutchy> aww. no decoding entities?!
[05:39:31] * chromas blames arti
[05:39:44] <crutchy> http://irciv.us.to
[05:39:44] <aqu4> Title for page "http://irciv.us.to/heh.htm": "3 💩ACTION chucks a nasty rotten burrito at itself💩"
[05:39:52] <crutchy> nope
[05:40:35] <crutchy> hmm. i think that might still be the dog poop character, but i'm not 100% sure
[05:40:40] <crutchy> chromas, check for poop
[05:40:53] * chromas concludes; it doth need wiping
[05:41:11] <crutchy> you're the poopchecker
[05:41:46] <chromas> there's something strange in the bothood
[05:42:01] <crutchy> 16 bit bytes?
[05:42:32] <chromas> nah, home PCs ruined all those possibilities
[05:42:53] <chromas> If I run monopory on my desktop it works, but if I run it on the server then it chokes on pr0gramm links
[05:43:03] <chromas> even when it's supposed to ignore them
[05:44:29] <crutchy> maybe moropory needs a poopchecker?
[05:45:12] <crutchy> do they have different versions of that downloady program that downloads things?
[05:45:28] <crutchy> not wget.... dammit brain no worka
[05:45:50] <chromas> curl?
[05:45:55] <crutchy> yeah that
[05:46:23] <crutchy> or doesn't moropory use curl?
[05:46:24] <chromas> could be, but I think I've got a 💩 in my code somewhere
[05:46:32] * chromas blames the hive cluster
[05:46:48] <crutchy> its prolly under attack from the pro-tossers
[05:49:17] * crutchy wonders if he made a linux distribution called 'butthole' that used a lot of gnu tools if stallman would want it to be called 'gnu/butthole'
[05:50:13] <crutchy> hmm i guess it would have to be an OS from scratch that used gnu utils
[05:50:53] <crutchy> its mr and mrs torvalds' fault. they should have called linus butthole instead
[05:51:05] <chromas> [trend broken]
[05:51:42] * chromas pulls his OS hole from scratch
[05:52:14] <crutchy> Abstract Source Software
[05:53:25] <chromas> so queerest thing; pr0gramm.com used to break my bot, then I added a regex to ignore those urls
[05:53:38] <chromas> now the regex breaks the bot and it works fine hitting the page
[05:55:02] <crutchy> maybe you gave it unrealistic regexpectations?
[05:55:14] <chromas> ha
[05:55:31] <chromas> who linked clickhole earlier? it's funny
[05:55:49] <chromas> it's like if the onion did buzzfeed, except that's what it is
[05:56:04] <chromas> ~first channel= message=clickhole.com
[05:56:12] <exec> 03[2014-11-16 21:58:54] #darknedgy <Wes> http://www.clickhole.com
[05:56:12] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/theres-island-trash-pacific-size-texas-and-im-goin-1387?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=facebook": "3There’s An Island Of Trash In The Pacific The Siz... | ClickHole"
[05:56:26] <chromas> that's a little older
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[06:26:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Safari Users Can Sue Google in the UK for Tracking Browsing - http://sylnt.us - putting-a-value-on-privacy
[06:26:50] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/vrv8o": "3UK Safari Users Can Sue Google in the UK for Tracking Browsing - SoylentNews"
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[06:36:57] <prospectacle> hooray prospectacle is back
[06:37:08] <prospectacle> what's been happening people
[06:38:57] <crutchy> not much. lazy sunday
[06:39:05] <crutchy> how you mate?
[06:41:16] <prospectacle> good thanks, about the same
[06:41:38] <prospectacle> how's your irciv game going? I saw some links to it or something earlier
[07:07:57] <crutchy> heh. pretty slow. i worked on it a little while back again but i'm too much of a gunna-do and easily distracted
[07:08:39] <crutchy> the link before was just a little test page to harass the title bots with :p
[07:10:05] <prospectacle> Yeah I'm like that with my projects too.
[07:10:13] <prospectacle> Hey do you have any androids?
[07:10:40] <prospectacle> I'm looking for some good developer apps to put on a little tablet/notebook I've got that has android. Preferably open source, but doesn't have to be
[07:17:55] * mrcoolbp is about to go to bed but waves at crutchy, prospectacle, and chromas
[07:18:39] <chromas> night, mrsleepbp
[07:23:34] <prospectacle> later mrbp who is cool
[07:24:20] <mrcoolbp> mrgoodnight
[07:24:28] * mrcoolbp goes to bed
[07:32:39] <crutchy> ciao!
[07:33:51] <crutchy> prospectacle, i've tried a few dev apps from google play. some are better than others, but without a rooted device its pretty hard to find anything that's really useful
[07:35:11] <crutchy> there's terminal emulators, php/web servers (unfortunately i'm yet to find a cli php interpreter) and sgit for dealing with github repos
[07:35:44] <crutchy> there's also some coding apps, but trying to code in a touch interface is... challenging
[07:36:45] <crutchy> best thing i've heard about for android development is using the official tools, which i think comes with an emulator
[07:36:59] <arti> material seems neat
[07:36:59] <crutchy> (for testing)
[07:37:40] <chromas> material—windows 8 for android
[07:37:46] <arti> yeah, i've also used titanium which also has an emulator
[07:38:57] <crutchy> haven't really got motivated enough to try android development. i'm reluctant to attempt java
[07:39:21] <crutchy> it stinks like oracle too much
[07:39:37] <arti> you do js ya?
[07:39:45] <crutchy> barely
[07:40:02] <crutchy> only when i have to
[07:40:27] <crutchy> it just stinks as a language
[07:40:39] <arti> http://www.appcelerator.com
[07:40:39] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.appcelerator.com/titanium/titanium-sdk/": "3Appcelerator Titanium SDK | Mobile App Development | Appcelerator Inc."
[07:41:49] * crutchy doesn't know js well enough to do any proper app coding with it
[07:42:05] <arti> that's quitter talk
[07:42:10] <crutchy> yup
[07:44:01] <prospectacle> thanks crutchy for the advice. Regarding the touch screen typing, it's one of those transformer thingies with a snap-on keyboard, so that's ok
[07:44:21] <crutchy> ah. i dunno if i would call it advice
[07:44:29] <crutchy> just what i've come across
[07:44:45] <arti> achievement unlocked: humble
[07:46:31] <crutchy> ~last nick=tama channel=#
[07:46:34] <exec> 03[2015-03-29 07:23:30] # <tama> NCommander eats bots as midnight snacks
[07:47:05] * arti reads in arnie voice
[07:48:47] <crutchy> reminds me of that happy gilmore bit
[07:49:10] <crutchy> 'i eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast' :p
[07:49:31] <arti> saw a reference to that earlier today somewhere on the internet
[07:49:55] <crutchy> ahh the internet.. i'll go there someday
[07:50:09] * arti brands crutchy with a gnu symbol
[07:50:16] <prospectacle> js can do some pretty good stuff - ad-hoc object structures, closures, dynamic arrays. It also comes with the web as a built in interface so that's cool
[07:50:21] <prospectacle> it's gotten a lot faster too
[07:50:35] <arti> yeah the javascript engine wars were fabulous
[07:50:50] <prospectacle> easy to make bad, messy apps with, no doubt, and not as fast as proper c++ or whatever, but interesting things can be built with it, and useful things
[07:50:51] <crutchy> i sorta prefer html4.01+js to some of this new fangled html5 stuff
[07:51:05] <crutchy> i'm a stick in the mud though
[07:51:12] <crutchy> frameworks--
[07:51:12] <Bender> karma - frameworks: -8
[07:51:20] <prospectacle> yeah i'm still getting my head around css3 etc
[07:51:30] <arti> what parts?
[07:51:34] <chromas> does css have named constants yet?
[07:51:34] <prospectacle> the <canvas> is pretty good though
[07:51:37] <arti> animootion?
[07:51:51] <arti> chromas, you can use preprocessors for that
[07:51:56] <prospectacle> arti, just getting to know what can be done natively that used to required a hacky workaround
[07:51:56] <crutchy> i've only used limited css3 things, like separate scroll controls
[07:52:01] <arti> scoped out typescript?
[07:52:26] <arti> boils down to client support
[07:53:48] <prospectacle> no i haven't looked at typescript
[07:54:05] <arti> have you peeked at angular?
[07:55:09] <prospectacle> personally I love js because every computer supports it. For proper storage, etc, you need a server, but as far as the user's concerned that only needs an internet connection turned on, which is not uncommon.
[07:55:18] <prospectacle> i have peeked at angular but not tried it out
[07:55:55] <arti> if you end up going the typescript route, and are interested in angular i recommend using webstorm
[07:56:03] <arti> makes it really sweet
[07:56:21] <chromas> javascript is the visualbasic of the 2000s
[07:56:32] <arti> came out in the 90s :|
[07:56:37] <arti> fantastic~
[07:56:40] <chromas> nobody used it then
[07:56:43] <arti> pfft
[07:57:01] <arti> projecting
[07:57:17] <arti> nobody used the internet then either :P
[07:57:34] <chromas> now everything's written in js
[07:57:38] <prospectacle> what's webstorm?
[07:58:11] <arti> https://www.jetbrains.com
[07:58:12] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/": "3WebStorm :: The smartest JavaScript IDE"
[07:58:22] <prospectacle> chromas, you're right, i used to mess around with vbscript, but since ie didn't take over the internet (so close) i figured I'd better learn the universal one.
[07:58:33] <prospectacle> ah, cool thanks
[07:58:38] <arti> i've found grunt really helpful too
[07:58:48] * arti isn't really fond of nodejs
[07:59:01] <prospectacle> oh yeah I recognise that ide, a guy at work uses it
[07:59:48] <prospectacle> I was thinking of adding a code-mode to my typing game, as coders have to learn different symbols than most people
[07:59:49] <arti> it's really awesome, especially for something written in filthy java :>
[07:59:56] <prospectacle> I find code is much harder to type accurately
[08:00:07] <prospectacle> do you think many people would use such a thing?
[08:00:10] <arti> yeah, i don't code nearly as fast as i type
[08:00:31] <prospectacle> do you wanna test yourself at my game? typerise.com
[08:00:48] <prospectacle> I think I beat my PB this morning but I haven't really been keeping a tally
[08:02:16] <arti> 57wpm :/
[08:03:11] <prospectacle> ah well you're probably just warming up. i'm always better later in the day, and it's like 7 of the pm here now
[08:03:25] <arti> 1:03 am, sheets to the wind
[08:04:21] <prospectacle> that'll do it. I love chatting drunk. Do you also have a tv show or movie on?
[08:04:30] <arti> listening to some old music i made
[08:04:40] <prospectacle> cool, can i listen?
[08:04:51] <prospectacle> making music is hard
[08:04:52] <arti> i like diging through old files sometimes
[08:12:55] <prospectacle> cool its quite dark without being bleak
[08:13:12] <arti> experiment with a lot of stuff
[08:13:23] <prospectacle> do u ever perform it or put it into a game or movie or anything?
[08:13:37] <arti> i've done some animation, but not a complete project
[08:14:06] <prospectacle> animation takes forever, I don't know how anyone does it
[08:14:30] <prospectacle> maybe one day motion capture will be cheap/good enough that we can all make animated home movies just by acting it out and then editing
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[08:15:35] <arti> i think something like that could be rigged up with the xbox motion sensor dealie
[08:15:49] <arti> they made a game that uses a mechanic to follow your dance moves, so the tech is there
[08:16:02] <prospectacle> yeah true
[08:16:31] <arti> the technology is cool though, little things like being able to remove motion from a scene
[08:18:05] <prospectacle> i guess a lot of the work to be done is software, like save a motion, put it on various backgrounds, zoom and pan while moving the "characters" where you want them, then integrating it with regular video editing reatures
[08:18:26] <prospectacle> as you say there is already hardware and core software libraries to do the basic tasks
[08:19:06] <prospectacle> i better go help with the washing up, bbl
[08:19:19] <arti> alright sir, have a good one
[08:19:31] <prospectacle> you too
[08:26:18] <crutchy> jetbrains++ # cos i really wanna try out phpstorm
[08:26:18] <Bender> karma - jetbrains: 3
[08:28:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Date Palm Grown from 2,000 Year-Old Seed is Reproducing - http://sylnt.us - very-very-long-courtship
[08:28:22] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/j69xd": "3Date Palm Grown from 2,000 Year-Old Seed is Reproducing - SoylentNews"
[08:30:00] <arti> wonder how those taste
[08:38:08] <chromas> hulu has a movie called "Fireplace for Your Home"
[08:38:16] <chromas> (this fireplace has not been rated)
[08:39:18] <arti> is it just a loop of flickering flames?
[08:39:28] <chromas> for an hour
[08:39:50] <arti> how about
[08:40:00] <arti> hulu has a movie called "Eternal Chinese Aftermath"
[08:41:24] <chromas> I don't think China has any fires
[08:42:27] <arti> of their own
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[09:11:37] <SirFinkus> pfft
[09:11:54] <SirFinkus> https://dogtv.com
[09:11:56] <SirFinkus> this exists
[09:12:00] <aqu4> Title for page "https://dogtv.com": "3DOGTV | Television for dogs"
[09:12:54] <SirFinkus> literally tv for your dog
[09:13:26] <chromas> that's good for those LCD tvs where everything's black at a dog's level
[09:13:36] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[09:13:51] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-dc14lNzwY": "3DOGTV Stimulation: Dog Playing in Corn Field - YouTube"
[09:16:54] <SirFinkus> this one has the worst public domain music I've ever heard https://www.youtube.com
[09:17:04] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5k00NVlKW0": "3DOGTV STIMULATION: THE DOG PARK - YouTube"
[09:17:21] <SirFinkus> they cram every annoying sound effect in the world
[09:17:54] <SirFinkus> ringing noises, children laughing, buzzes
[09:18:15] <SirFinkus> the camerawork is terrible too
[09:19:09] <SirFinkus> spring noises now
[09:19:42] <chromas> probably just to get attention
[09:19:57] <SirFinkus> obviously looping tropical birdsong
[09:19:58] <chromas> those noises are to dogs what dogs & babies in ads are to people
[09:20:10] <SirFinkus> I think I've heard them in an old game I played
[09:20:27] <SirFinkus> Amazon Trail
[10:29:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Autism - Possible Link to Gut Bacteria - http://sylnt.us - spectrum-analysis-isn't-just-for-wifi-anymore
[10:29:53] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/10l4m": "3Autism - Possible Link to Gut Bacteria - SoylentNews"
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[10:42:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Coffee++
[10:42:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1220
[10:53:20] <crutchy> ++coffee
[10:53:38] <crutchy> ¿
[10:54:16] <crutchy> still on your phone?
[10:56:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ya. Typing sucks but at least I can read.
[11:03:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Beard is gone now btw. Clean shaved face for the summer.
[11:03:53] <chromas> noooooo
[11:05:29] <JamesNZ> RIP TheMightyBuzzard's beard.
[11:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Was a given. Summers with a beard suck.
[11:07:44] <chromas> but now it's easier to digitally try out different beard styles
[11:08:12] <chromas> maybe a goatee that curves up like Dilbert's tie
[11:10:02] <JamesNZ> summer++ # Winter is coming :(
[11:10:02] <Bender> karma - summer: 3
[11:10:29] <JamesNZ> (and no, I'm not making a GoT reference)
[11:11:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Winter can suck it. I'm ready for the warm again.
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[11:23:39] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:23:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1221
[11:23:50] <crutchy> my lappy almost died then
[11:24:25] <crutchy> actually, i think i might reboot since the fans whirring away like crazy. something must've made it grumpy
[11:24:28] <crutchy> prolly ff
[11:24:37] <crutchy> ~q
[11:24:39] <exec> successfully saved buckets file (56.7 kb)
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[12:34:06] <janrinok> hi guys, anyone awake?
[12:57:21] <chromas> a little
[12:57:29] -!- TheMightyJuggs [TheMightyJuggs!~confirms@0::1] has joined #Soylent
[12:57:37] <chromas> test http://yahoo.com
[12:57:40] <aqu4> Title for page "http://yahoo.com/": "3Yahoo"
[12:57:43] <chromas> woohoo++
[12:57:43] <Bender> karma - woohoo: 3
[13:01:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RapidShare is no more (27 May 2002 — 31 Mar 2015) - http://sylnt.us - share-and-share-alike
[13:01:48] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/8fp5y": "3RapidShare is no more (27 May 2002 — 31 Mar 2015) - SoylentNews"
[13:01:51] <chromas> =nick beta
[13:01:51] TheMightyJuggs is now known as beta
[13:20:28] <janrinok> hi chromas
[13:20:29] <ciri> >.> janrinok
[13:20:45] <janrinok> hi beta
[13:21:09] * janrinok is getting confused with nicks...
[13:21:13] * beta sucks!
[13:21:42] <janrinok> lol
[13:21:42] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[13:22:03] <chromas> we need irc avatars
[13:22:34] <chromas> there's an avatar system but I think only a couple irc clients support it
[13:23:08] <janrinok> I doubt that would work on irssi....
[13:23:24] <janrinok> raw text FTW
[13:23:59] <chromas> no sir! xml forever!
[13:26:28] <janrinok> did crutchy's laptop not recover earlier?
[13:27:00] <chromas> not sure what's up. exec is connected
[13:27:05] <chromas> but hasn't joined here
[13:27:29] <chromas> oh it left again
[13:27:47] <janrinok> he said his lappy nearly died, was going to reboot, but never re-appeared...
[13:28:57] <chromas> yep. but then exec was on just a bit ago filling #github
[13:29:23] <janrinok> ah, hadn't seen that
[13:40:20] beta is now known as PrincessKenny
[14:07:57] <CoolHand> I agree with janrinok ! irssi!!!!
[14:09:27] <chromas> real programmers use sic
[14:10:03] * chromas stands by for meta+cmd+butterfly
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[14:12:41] * CoolHand ain't no real programmer, just a scripter
[14:15:50] <chromas> sic's great for scripting too :)
[14:16:30] <CoolHand> i haven't even heard of that
[14:17:42] <chromas> http://tools.suckless.org
[14:17:43] <aqu4> Title for page "http://tools.suckless.org/sic": "3sic | suckless.org tools"
[14:18:03] <chromas> SedBot uses the related ii
[14:18:31] * chromas gives FoobarBazbot the stinkeye
[14:19:05] <CoolHand> i'll have to check that out
[14:19:23] * CoolHand ain't real bright though, so we'll see if he can figure any of it out
[14:32:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China is DDOSing Github - http://sylnt.us - must-stop-Rehash-development!
[14:32:57] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/8-36m": "3China is DDOSing Github - SoylentNews"
[14:33:44] <chromas> $titlectl ignore Bender
[14:33:54] <chromas> Aw
[15:12:05] janrinok is now known as janrinok|afk
[16:04:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Phone Made of Grass - http://sylnt.us - i-want-everything-organic
[16:04:07] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/izuvf": "3Phone Made of Grass - SoylentNews"
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[16:33:20] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[16:33:30] <Bytram> !uid
[16:33:31] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5176, owned by HOLOGRAPHICpizza
[16:33:43] <Bytram> coffee++
[16:33:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1222
[16:34:04] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[16:34:06] <autoexec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 35°F / 2°C, sunny, wind N at 3 mph, humidity 33% - Sunday mostly sunny (29°F-40°F / -2°C-4°C), Monday scattered showers (33°F-45°F / 1°C-7°C), Tuesday mostly sunny (31°F-47°F / -1°C-8°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (31°F-44°F / -1°C-7°C)
[16:34:13] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[16:34:14] <autoexec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 37°F / 3°C, sunny, wind NW at 5 mph, humidity 24% - Sunday sunny (28°F-39°F / -2°C-4°C), Monday showers (32°F-43°F / 0°C-6°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (24°F-45°F / -4°C-7°C), Wednesday sunny (24°F-42°F / -4°C-6°C)
[16:34:20] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, me
[16:34:21] <autoexec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 30°F / -1°C, sunny, wind W at 1 mph, humidity 26% - Sunday partly cloudy (18°F-38°F / -8°C-3°C), Monday rain and snow (30°F-41°F / -1°C-5°C), Tuesday snow showers (12°F-41°F / -11°C-5°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (10°F-32°F / -12°C-0°C)
[16:50:25] <Bytram> hola! anybody here?
[16:56:41] <Bytram> https://www.google.com
[16:56:42] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=eric+garner+video+youtube&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8": "3eric garner video youtube - Google Search"
[16:57:07] * Bytram really does not want to include THAT link in the story...
[16:57:44] <Bytram> https://www.google.com
[16:57:45] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.google.com/search?q=eric+garner+video+youtube&client=ubuntu&hs=2ox&channel=fs&gbv=1&sei=9y4YVd3tHcuzggSzwIPIDQ": "3eric garner video youtube - Google Search"
[17:12:42] <Bytram> https://www.google.com
[17:12:43] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.google.com/search?q=eric+garner+video+youtube": "3eric garner video youtube - Google Search"
[17:12:48] <Bytram> that's better
[17:16:01] <Bytram> http://feeds.arstechnica.com
[17:16:02] <aqu4> Title for page "http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/index/~3/5QOusOxq3HU/": "3Mini-review: Intel’s powered-up Core i7 Broadwell mini PC | Ars Technica"
[17:38:15] janrinok|afk is now known as janrinok
[17:38:30] <janrinok> hi Bytram
[17:38:31] <ciri> what's going on? janrinok
[17:38:47] <Bytram> janrinok: hey! How's things?
[17:39:26] <janrinok> not bad thx, and you?
[17:39:58] <Bytram> trying to get some testing in
[17:40:23] <janrinok> ah, the urge to break things overwhelms you again...?
[17:40:30] <Bytram> BOOM!
[17:40:51] <Bytram> see: _!_"_#_$_%_&_'_(_)_*_+_,_-_._/
[17:40:51] <Bytram> 0_1_2_3_4_5_6_7_8_9_:_;_<_=_>_?
[17:40:51] <Bytram> @_A_B_C_D_E_F_G_H_I_J_K_L_M_N_O
[17:40:51] <Bytram> P_Q_R_S_T_U_V_W_X_Y_Z_[_\_]_^__
[17:40:51] <Bytram> `_a_b_c_d_e_f_g_h_i_j_k_l_m_n_o
[17:40:52] <Bytram> p_q_r_s_t_u_v_w_x_y_z_{_|_}_~_
[17:40:59] <Bytram> wooops!
[17:41:25] <Bytram> see: https://soylentnews.org
[17:41:26] <aqu4> Title for page "https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=6768&cid=163878": "3SoylentNews Comments | UTF-8 Regression Testing "
[17:41:28] <janrinok> that should do for starters, then try € £ $ because they often work too
[17:41:53] <Bytram> that worked okay on prod.
[17:42:16] <Bytram> when I tried to do the same on dev.soylentnews.org, I get:
[17:42:16] <Bytram> OK
[17:42:17] <Bytram> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[17:42:17] <Bytram> Please contact the server administrator, slash@dev.soylentnews.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
[17:42:19] <Bytram> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[17:42:20] <janrinok> oh, on prod yes, but you know the gremlins better than I
[17:42:41] <Bytram> so, it looks like it USED TO work, but not now, on dev
[17:43:01] <janrinok> yes, that's my experience too
[17:43:02] <Bytram> had same error when trying to post those as a comment to a story on dev
[17:43:25] <Bytram> I didn't really want to post a story to production for testing purposes, so created a journal entry, instead
[17:43:25] <janrinok> something related to Apache2?
[17:43:32] * Bytram has no idea
[17:43:43] <Bytram> still trying to narrow down what char(s) cause the problem.
[17:43:50] <janrinok> your job is to find the bugs, not fix 'em
[17:43:54] <Bytram> In this case, I suspect it is 0x7f
[17:44:00] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:44:10] <Bytram> but I'd like to isolate the bug as much as possible
[17:44:25] <janrinok> reasonable wish
[17:44:49] * Bytram tries a coment containing *just* one char: 0x7f
[17:44:56] <Bytram> BOOM!
[17:46:50] <Bytram> yup, confirmed.
[17:47:18] <Bytram> saw same problem with 0x00-0x1f -- trying to narrow that down, too.
[17:47:52] <Bytram> strangely, cannot do ALT+nnn in palemoon on winxp for values less than 0x20
[17:49:26] <Bytram> 0x10-0x1f goes BOOM
[17:49:57] <janrinok> narrowed that one down nicely then :)
[17:50:26] <Bytram> thanks, but that's still 16 chars... could be just ONE of them...
[17:50:33] <Bytram> binary search commences
[17:55:14] <Bytram> 0x01 goes BOOM
[17:55:50] <Bytram> hmmm, it would be a lot easier if I had a program that could read a file and copy its contents to the windows clipboard...
[17:58:26] <Landon> 0xb00mb00m
[17:58:30] <Landon> 'lo all
[17:58:46] <Landon> have some puppy pictures http://imgur.com http://imgur.com
[17:58:46] <aqu4> Title for page "http://imgur.com/UAH0JZ1": "3 Imgur"
[17:58:50] <Bytram> Landon: Hey! Good to 'see' you!
[17:59:20] <Bytram> interesting... this: http://stackoverflow.com
[17:59:21] <aqu4> Title for page "http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17819814/how-can-you-get-the-clipboard-contents-with-a-windows-command": "3dos - How can you get the clipboard contents with a Windows command? - Stack Overflow"
[17:59:28] <Bytram> says that clip.exe comes with windows?
[17:59:33] <janrinok> hi Landon
[17:59:35] * Bytram does not see it, yet.
[17:59:50] <Landon> hah! reading about Formula E racing: Since the racing is usually done on a closed circuit they could implement inductive charging in the future( and perhaps power-ups ). Who wouldn't want to watch that?
[18:00:26] <Bytram> so, one would need to go slower over the charging pads to be able to go faster? ;)
[18:00:46] <Landon> hellish, put it in
[18:01:03] <Landon> well
[18:01:14] <Landon> wouldn't it be slower to last longer
[18:01:32] <Landon> but have some stretches where you get a burst of current for zipping over the pad ;)
[18:02:05] <Bytram> the permutations become quite, umm, interesting!
[18:03:00] <Landon> anyways, puppies are hell, this does not make me want to have a kid
[18:03:14] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:03:23] <Landon> or a younger puppy, from what we read, the breeder must have done significant amounts of housebreaking and bite inhibition before we got her
[18:03:32] * Bytram long ago had a yorkie... as a pup it chewed *everything*
[18:03:49] <Landon> not at that stage yet, but we've got the chewy toys prepped and ready in the drawer
[18:03:58] <Bytram> didn't matter
[18:04:05] <Bytram> anything handy got chewed
[18:04:08] <Landon> hehehe
[18:04:13] <Bytram> computer mice cord
[18:04:27] <Bytram> hey! what's wrong with this mouse? Huh? Oh! Grrrrrr!
[18:04:38] <Bytram> keyboard cable too
[18:04:43] <Bytram> and a couple lamp cords.
[18:05:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Organic LEDs, Carbon Nanotubes May Light Up Future Fabrics - http://sylnt.us - give-me-glowing-clothes
[18:05:39] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/7pfcg": "3Organic LEDs, Carbon Nanotubes May Light Up Future Fabrics - SoylentNews"
[18:19:58] <Bytram> afk biab
[18:32:43] <Bytram> hmmm, this looks promising: http://www.petri.co.il
[18:32:44] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.petri.co.il/software/clip.zip": "3404 Not Found"
[18:32:52] <Bytram> maybe not. :/
[18:33:07] <janrinok> interesting in what way?
[18:33:49] * Bytram wants to be able to send the contents of a file directly to the windows clipboard
[18:33:55] <Bytram> http://www.donationcoder.com
[18:33:57] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=15720": "3Redirect screen output to clipboard - DonationCoder.com"
[18:34:06] <janrinok> ajh, still answering that particular question
[18:34:16] * Bytram had never heard of that site before
[18:34:19] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:34:42] * janrinok reckons that there are millions of sites he's never heard of...
[18:35:02] <Bytram> hmmm, registered in 2004... that's a good sign
[18:35:20] <janrinok> Scorpio - another good sign
[18:36:59] <Bytram> LOL!
[18:37:03] <Bytram> thanks for that!
[18:37:08] <Bytram> http://www.dreamcycle.net
[18:37:09] <aqu4> No title found.
[18:37:15] <Bytram> natch.
[18:38:11] <janrinok> http://stackoverflow.com - try this?
[18:38:12] <aqu4> Title for page "http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6832203/access-clipboard-in-windows-batch-file": "3Access clipboard in Windows batch file - Stack Overflow"
[18:38:53] <janrinok> https://www.mkssoftware.com and this?
[18:38:54] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/wpaste.1.asp": "3wpaste -- write clipboard text to standard output or a specified file"
[18:39:30] <janrinok> oops, that last one is writing from clipboard - sry
[18:39:40] <Bytram> yeh, np
[18:39:55] <Bytram> huh? MKS? I've got that...
[18:40:07] <Bytram> and my cordless mouse just ran out of juice
[18:40:13] * Bytram searches for aaa batteries
[18:40:23] <janrinok> quote: With Vista or higher, it's built in. Just pipe output to the "clip" program. Here's a writeup (by me): http://www.clipboardextender.com The article also contains a link to a free utility (written by Me, I think) called Dos2Clip, which can be used on XP.
[18:40:24] <aqu4> Title for page "http://www.clipboardextender.com/general-clipboard-use/command-window-output-to-clipboard-in-vista": "3Vista clipboard trick - command line output to clipboard"
[18:40:40] * Bytram has XP atm
[18:40:55] <janrinok> ah, I'll refine my search
[18:41:58] * Bytram goes to check his MKS install
[18:42:11] <janrinok> the clip.exe program is available via Win Server 2003 and works on XP according to one post
[18:42:31] <janrinok> not convinced but I don't know Windows very well
[18:42:55] <Bytram> AHA!
[18:43:16] <Bytram> I have the MKS Toolkit installed from a long long long time ago...
[18:43:33] <Bytram> didn't know it had BOTH wcopy and wpaste!
[18:43:37] <Bytram> WooHoo!
[18:44:17] <janrinok> yippee!
[18:44:51] * janrinok acknowledges another satisfied customer
[18:46:34] <Bytram> I am absolutely *stunned*
[18:46:48] <Bytram> I got that toolset back in the early 90's and didn't know it had that tool in there!
[18:46:57] <janrinok> shocked and stunned, or jus stunned?
[18:46:57] <Bytram> all the time I could have saved...
[18:47:10] <Bytram> flabbergasted
[18:47:38] <janrinok> stunned and flabbergasted - well that certainly is worth something
[18:50:53] <Bytram> yuppers.
[18:51:19] <Bytram> it appears that any char < 0x1f is giving me a boom, still investigating.
[18:51:21] <Bytram> brb
[19:00:31] <Bytram> works fine on prod w/ 0x01-0x1f
[19:06:46] <Bytram> ugh. wcopy is not UTF-8 aware, it seems.
[19:08:05] <Bytram> which makes sense, doh. it was written back in '97 or so
[19:10:47] <janrinok> so can it be 'persuaded'?
[19:11:38] <Bytram> I don't think so.
[19:11:56] * janrinok will have to start searching again
[19:13:41] <Bytram> it would be like trying to persuade it to understand EBCDIC -- at the lowest level, it's just a buncha bytes
[19:14:05] <Bytram> but, since it *thinks* it is ASCII, it has certain ideas as to what the size of a *character* is.
[19:14:22] * Bytram has downloaded a tool he found: clipcopy.exe
[19:14:35] <janrinok> does winxp understand UTF-8?
[19:14:58] <Bytram> I got clipcopy from here: http://www.dreamcycle.net
[19:14:59] <aqu4> No title found.
[19:15:03] <Bytram> janrinok: sure does
[19:15:18] <Bytram> well, let me rephrase that
[19:15:28] <Bytram> it has not caused me any unexpected problems, yet.
[19:16:00] <janrinok> well, I suppose if you can display UTF-8 on the clipboard and in files it must support it
[19:16:11] <Bytram> yup. my thoughts exactly
[19:16:17] <Bytram> hmmm
[19:16:49] <janrinok> do you use XP for any particular reason?
[19:17:17] <Bytram> yup, came with my pc
[19:17:25] <janrinok> good enuf!
[19:17:40] * Bytram would love to have a newer box, but $$
[19:17:47] <janrinok> understood
[19:19:30] * Bytram saw a couple HP laptops on special at wally world for $350-$400 and is tempted
[19:19:38] <Bytram> but, win 8.1?
[19:20:08] <janrinok> I've got win 7 available but not installed anywhere
[19:20:19] <janrinok> but that is en-uk
[19:21:15] <Bytram> appreciated, but this laptop is *well* past prime
[19:21:23] * Bytram gets occasional disk errors
[19:21:42] * Bytram doesn't understand, it's only 9y10m old!
[19:21:51] <Bytram> =)
[19:21:59] <janrinok> almost new
[19:22:10] <Bytram> ROFL!
[19:22:41] <Bytram> has a HUGE hard disk, too! 80GB !!!
[19:23:31] <janrinok> well, you'll _never_ fill it!
[19:24:01] <janrinok> break it to me gently - how much mem?
[19:24:15] <Bytram> 1.25 gig
[19:24:33] <Bytram> drive spins at a whopping 5400 RPM, too!
[19:24:35] <janrinok> throw away half of that - you'll never use it!
[19:24:40] <Bytram> LMAO!
[19:25:06] <janrinok> I've never heard of such an over-specc'ed machine
[19:25:06] * Bytram has another stick, but the screen is busted and I'm afraid that if I open it up to add the memory, it will kill it for good.
[19:25:26] <Bytram> sure beats the first few boxes I'd bought
[19:25:45] <janrinok> OK, it might be getting close to biting the bullet time. Even if you have to sell your body or something
[19:26:05] <Bytram> 286 @ 10MHz w/ 1 wait state, or 12 MHz with 2; 40 MB hard disk!
[19:26:17] * Bytram ponders selling janrinok's body, instead
[19:26:30] * Bytram decides against it
[19:26:41] <janrinok> lol - how much do you think you'd get for my body?
[19:27:14] <janrinok> even I wouldn't buy it - but I know where it has been....
[19:27:24] <Bytram> same problem, here.
[19:28:15] <janrinok> it's almost that time again. A pleasure as always
[19:28:18] <Bytram> OTOH, my brain is well-preserved from all my drinking in my youth.
[19:28:26] <janrinok> mine is pickled too
[19:28:30] <Bytram> janrinok: yeah, time is getting on.
[19:28:38] <Bytram> good chatting w/ you as always!
[19:28:50] <Bytram> give my best to S, and you get some sleep, ya hear?
[19:28:51] <janrinok> take care bud, see you tomorrow?
[19:29:09] <Bytram> possibly, got a full day ahead
[19:29:19] <Bytram> depends on how well I sleep tonight
[19:29:28] <janrinok> have a safe one, and I hope you sleep well
[19:29:35] <Bytram> can I get back to you in, say, 48 hours? ;)
[19:29:41] <Bytram> and the same to you!
[19:29:43] <janrinok> sure ;)
[19:29:44] <Bytram> au revoir!
[19:29:57] <janrinok> you leave my revoir out of this
[19:30:19] <Bytram> won't do it again[*], I promise
[19:30:22] <Bytram> [*] today
[19:30:28] <janrinok> lol
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[19:36:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Icarus Won't Collide With Earth in 2015 - But It'll Be Close - http://sylnt.us - celestial-billiards
[19:36:48] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/knso9": "3Icarus Won't Collide With Earth in 2015 - But It'll Be Close - SoylentNews"
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[19:41:54] <Bytram> moo
[19:42:39] <SoyCow9618> moo to you too
[19:43:00] <Bytram> how's things?
[19:43:04] <SoyCow9618> it's still me though
[19:43:21] * Bytram greets me
[19:43:21] <SoyCow9618> good, everyone is now in bed
[19:43:37] <Bytram> nod nod
[19:43:46] <SoyCow9618> I thought I'd lurk a little longer
[19:43:59] <Bytram> I, umm, noticed. =)
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[19:44:18] <Bytram> if you'd like, take a look at the comments here: https://soylentnews.org
[19:44:19] <aqu4> Title for page "https://soylentnews.org/~martyb/journal/1115": "3Journal of martyb (76)"
[19:44:29] <Bytram> has bunches of UTF-8 chars in the comments.
[19:44:33] <janrinok_in_bed> looking
[19:45:00] * Bytram wonders how those chars look on your box; I see most of them as chars, but get occasional "boxed numbers", too.
[19:45:01] <janrinok_in_bed> have you solved the problem?
[19:45:16] <Bytram> solved?
[19:45:24] <Bytram> you mean wcopy and utf-8?
[19:45:26] <Bytram> not yet
[19:45:30] <janrinok_in_bed> I just see "This is just a place to hang some UTF-8 character regression tests."
[19:45:46] <Bytram> yup, and there should be some comments posted under it
[19:46:05] <janrinok_in_bed> ah, you want me to scroll down as well?!
[19:46:19] <Bytram> it's up to you :)
[19:46:26] <janrinok_in_bed> yup, just a few....
[19:47:00] <janrinok_in_bed> I need to install some additonal fonts because I'm missing about 10% of those
[19:47:11] <Bytram> that's about what I'm getting
[19:47:47] <Bytram> some are to be expected -- invalid byte sequences for UTF-8
[19:48:01] <Bytram> I just generated 'em in bunches and pasted them in
[19:48:05] <janrinok_in_bed> I can't find out which fonts I am missing, so I won't lose too much sleep about it
[19:48:11] <Bytram> lol
[19:48:23] * Bytram uses CSUR fonts from GNU
[19:48:35] <janrinok_in_bed> I'll have to look that one up
[19:48:43] * Bytram can find a link ...
[19:49:11] <Bytram> "http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont-7.0.06/font-builds/unifont_csur-7.0.06.ttf"
[19:49:11] <Bytram> and
[19:49:17] <Bytram> "http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont-7.0.06/font-builds/unifont_upper_csur-7.0.06.ttf"
[19:49:39] <Bytram> laundry is calling, brb
[19:49:51] <janrinok_in_bed> I get 404s on both of those
[19:51:49] <janrinok_in_bed> ...but I've found them in a slightly different path
[19:57:41] <janrinok_in_bed> just installed them - I'm going to reboot firefox/IceWeasel/PM whatever
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[19:58:49] <Bytram> k
[19:59:13] <Bytram> oh, joy. now palemoon is nagging me about an update
[19:59:18] <janrinok_in_bed> lost that link you gave me now to your journal
[19:59:25] <Bytram> np just a secv
[19:59:35] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[19:59:37] <aqu4> Title for page "https://soylentnews.org/~martyb/journal/1115": "3Journal of martyb (76)"
[19:59:41] <janrinok_in_bed> thx
[20:00:19] <janrinok_in_bed> almost a full house!
[20:00:38] <Bytram> !woop
[20:00:38] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[20:01:08] <janrinok_in_bed> last time I heard that it was for a crash dive in a war film
[20:01:44] * janrinok_in_bed acknowledges he doesn't get out much....
[20:02:03] <janrinok_in_bed> was that a PM update?
[20:02:48] <Bytram> yuppers
[20:03:12] <Bytram> kids these days didn't grow up watching WWII movies
[20:03:40] <Bytram> kids in the days before me saw it live.
[20:03:43] * Bytram is very fortunate
[20:03:57] <janrinok_in_bed> PM v25 is available - I'll do that tomorrow
[20:04:18] <Bytram> yeah, I'm moving on up to v25.3.1
[20:04:36] <Bytram> well, the atom_win_xp version, that is.
[20:04:44] <janrinok_in_bed> I know how you like to keep abreast of the latest software and hardware....
[20:04:53] <Bytram> chuckle
[20:05:20] <Bytram> update will be installed the next time PM starts...
[20:05:27] <Bytram> oh, joy.
[20:05:49] * Bytram clicks restart pale moon and prepares to wait for a while
[20:06:52] <Bytram> on a positive note, that should reclaim some RAM for me.
[20:07:08] <janrinok_in_bed> ah, you've got plenty
[20:07:18] <Bytram> ding dong... my dinner's almost ready. biab
[20:07:29] <janrinok_in_bed> remember what Gate's said...
[20:07:59] <Bytram> you mean what it's said that he said?
[20:08:11] <janrinok_in_bed> I just said that he said
[20:08:29] <Bytram> I'm not so convinced that he *actually* said it
[20:08:31] <arti> Australia has won the 2015 ICC Cricket World Cup
[20:08:38] <Bytram> *crickets*
[20:08:56] <janrinok_in_bed> you mean he didnt say what I said he said, he said something he didn't say?
[20:09:00] <Bytram> ~moosay cheers!
[20:09:09] <Bytram> !moosay cheers!
[20:09:19] <Bytram> You said it!
[20:09:25] <janrinok_in_bed> have a good meal
[20:09:33] <Bytram> tnx. brb
[20:13:05] <Bytram> back
[20:13:12] <Bytram> btw, I put up a new pool...
[20:13:39] <Bytram> should go live on ... czn't remmeber ... 30th or 31st
[20:13:49] <Bytram> s/pool/poll/
[20:14:13] <Bytram> it is difficult to type with a bowl of spaghetti in front of kbd
[20:14:15] <Landon> https://www.youtube.com cracks me up every time :) that's good advertising
[20:14:17] <aqu4> Title for page "https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_563292433&feature=iv&list=PLXEP0qousrR28Hz8j0iMnDymjAzyNidbA&src_vid=dRIgmKGDqFM&v=dRIgmKGDqFM": "3Jeff Gordon: Test Drive 2 | Pepsi Max - YouTube"
[20:16:02] <janrinok_in_bed> I'd have to clean my keyboard after a spag bol
[20:16:36] * Bytram keeps his kbd at arms' length
[20:17:54] <janrinok_in_bed> is setting the poll up your job as well?
[20:20:45] <Bytram> kinda fell into it... noticed at one point that a poll had been up for a month
[20:20:58] <Bytram> community noticed and commented on it
[20:20:58] <Landon> to be fair, that's better than slashdot ;)
[20:21:03] <Bytram> I thot, what the heck?
[20:21:05] <Landon> only a month
[20:21:15] <janrinok_in_bed> I wondered if you would stop eating to reply ;)
[20:21:17] <Bytram> it's kinda been my baby for a few months(?) now.
[20:21:45] <Bytram> I just keep bobbing hy head up & down... who needs forks?
[20:22:04] <Bytram> well, dont' we have a live one here....
[20:22:37] <Bytram> look at the AC on the github thread... think s/he's got about 1/3 of the comments
[20:22:42] <janrinok_in_bed> gosh I'm missing so many grabs
[20:22:47] <Bytram> hi
[20:22:48] <ciri> quick, everyone look busy Bytram
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[20:24:42] <janrinok_in_bed> hi crutchy
[20:25:03] <crutchy> mornin'
[20:25:57] <janrinok_in_bed> Bytram: I wonder if he regrets making that first comment
[20:26:11] <Bytram> I dunno, still reading.
[20:27:45] <Landon> multiplayer notepad *shudder*
[20:27:54] <Landon> been there done that, tons of micromanagement required
[20:27:56] * Bytram agrees
[20:28:37] <janrinok_in_bed> my comment was very restrained when compared with some of the others
[20:29:05] <Bytram> agreed
[20:29:10] * Bytram chews and reads
[20:29:13] <Bytram> nograb
[20:30:11] <paulej72> my ass is tired. I was cleaning my appartment all day
[20:30:22] <Landon> you know, my ass was tired after a 2.5 hr drive the other day
[20:30:27] <Landon> I think I need to move the drivers seat back
[20:30:34] <Landon> get my thighs in contact with more of the seat
[20:30:37] <janrinok_in_bed> hi paulej72 - job finished or have you just quit for the day?
[20:31:03] <paulej72> I just have to go food shopping yet. Out of the basics
[20:31:14] <janrinok_in_bed> beer etc
[20:31:22] <Landon> janrinok++
[20:31:22] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 25
[20:32:17] <Landon> you guys wanna see something funny?
[20:32:20] <paulej72> i think vaccuuming my stairs to get the calcium rmoved was the hardest part
[20:32:35] <janrinok_in_bed> perhaps that should have been an 'essential'
[20:32:36] <Landon> https://jazzpractices.wordpress.com
[20:32:38] <aqu4> Title for page "https://jazzpractices.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/git-outta-here/": "3Git Outta Here | JazzPractices"
[20:32:40] <Landon> show starts when you hit the comments
[20:33:01] <Landon> I've noticed that all of the RTC/IBM friendly blogs are 1) by employees.... 2) predominantly on .wordpress.com domain
[20:33:06] <janrinok_in_bed> paulej72: is that from the building works?
[20:35:26] <paulej72> ice meilting. calcium works better than sodium
[20:35:47] <Landon> *munches popcorn* this github thread is good
[20:35:48] <Landon> "The other advantage is that because it's just a text file you don't setup a server, or users, or user passwords, or have to rebuild the database etc"
[20:35:51] <paulej72> come in little pellets
[20:37:03] <janrinok_in_bed> I prefer the pure sodium. far more impressive but not as effective
[20:37:19] <paulej72> its hydroscopic so it sticks to anything wet like your shoes. and gets drug up my setps since it is not convenient to take my shoes off at the bottom
[20:38:15] <Landon> ah, these are carpeted indoor steps?
[20:38:26] <Landon> was wondering why you took a vacuum to uncarpeted outdoor steps :)
[20:39:16] <Bytram> vacuuming sucks
[20:39:18] <Bytram> =)
[20:39:34] <paulej72> yep carpeted indoor ones. there is a small 3' x 4" vestibule on the first floor with my door and my downstairs neighbors door
[20:40:10] <Bytram> keep some slippers by the door and swap into 'em when you come home? leave the salty shoes at the door?
[20:40:15] <paulej72> the stair case is open to my efficeincy. makes the place feel bigger
[20:40:17] <Bytram> or is it a common entrance?
[20:40:55] <paulej72> the stairs start right at the door, and the vesitibule is too small to even open two doors at once.
[20:41:04] <paulej72> almost :)
[20:41:33] <paulej72> vestibule is common.
[20:42:12] <paulej72> I have a landing almost at the top of the stair and i normally leave my shoes there.
[20:42:43] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:43:03] <Bytram> btw, I'm getting some regressions on dev.soylentnews.com wrt utf-8 support
[20:43:41] <Bytram> I have been, cautiously, using prod to compare against... do we have another server that matches prod that I can use?
[20:44:30] <paulej72> whats funny is that mya appartment door is normal interior door so it does not do a good job at stoping heat thransfer. so as I decend the stairs in the winter the temp falls noticealby
[20:44:52] <Bytram> simples... turn around and go back!
[20:45:12] <paulej72> Bytram: not at this time.
[20:45:23] <Bytram> k, thnks
[20:45:35] <Bytram> is buzz still on the moove?
[20:46:00] <janrinok_in_bed> I think he was on earlier today
[20:46:03] <paulej72> he is in his new place and expects network on tuesday
[20:46:12] <Bytram> good to hear!
[20:46:27] <Bytram> there's always more to moving that it seems, at first.
[20:48:11] <paulej72> tell me about it. moving carbon is still ongoing. but I am real close now
[20:48:32] <Bytram> paulej72: I've been testing the use of a range of UTF-8 chars, and when I hit preview (Plain Old Text) mode, I get a server error. :/
[20:48:40] <Bytram> paulej72++
[20:48:40] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 131
[20:49:00] <Bytram> paulej72 == carbonator!!
[20:49:10] <paulej72> Bytram: we probably have an issue with the new mysql setup and how it is running with utf8.
[20:49:15] <Bytram> would something appear in the logs when I do that?
[20:49:22] <janrinok_in_bed> sounds a bit fizzy-drink ish
[20:49:28] <Bytram> sounds plausible; can't tell from here
[20:50:21] <paulej72> yes there probably is something in the logs, but not sure which one it would be. I would start with the soylentnews.mainpage.error.log
[20:50:44] <janrinok_in_bed> got to go guys - have a pleasant evening.
[20:51:16] <Bytram> janrinok_in_bed: sleep well!
[20:51:29] * Bytram doesn't think he has access to that
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[20:52:29] <Bytram> ok, I just tried to preview a comment containing each of the chars from 0x20-0x1f and got:
[20:52:35] <Bytram> OK
[20:52:35] <Bytram> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[20:52:35] <Bytram> Please contact the server administrator, slash@dev.soylentnews.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
[20:52:35] <Bytram> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[20:55:02] <paulej72> [Sun Mar 29 20:49:50 2015] [error] /comments.pl:ModPerl::ROOT::ModPerl::Registry::srv_soylentnews_2eorg_rehash_site_soylent_2dmainpage_htdocs_comments_2epl:/srv/soylentnews.org/rehash/site/soylent-mainpage/htdocs/comments.pl:506:cannot getSkin for empty skid='0' ;; Which was called by:ModPerl::ROOT::ModPerl::Registry::srv_soylentnews_2eorg_rehash_site_soylent_2dmainpage_htdocs_comments_2epl:/srv/soylentnews.org/rehash/site/soylent-ma
[20:55:02] <paulej72> inpage/htdocs/comments.pl:329
[20:55:02] <paulej72> [Sun Mar 29 20:51:00 2015] [error] Cannot decode string with wide characters at /srv/soylentnews.org/perl/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.20.1/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/Encode.pm line 241.\n
[20:56:29] <Bytram> encode.pm -- that makes sense
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[21:10:50] <Bytram> JamesNZ: g'day!
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[21:11:10] <JamesNZ> Morning Bytram :)
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[21:11:23] <Bytram> paulej72: I'm not having any luck trying to find encode.pm any hints on where on github I can find it?
[21:11:44] <Bytram> JamesNZ: what's up down there?
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[21:12:26] <JamesNZ> Bytram: The sun :P How about over there?
[21:12:46] <Bytram> this should give you some idea:
[21:12:53] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[21:12:55] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 39°F, sunny, wind SE at 9 mph, humidity 44% - Sunday clear with periodic clouds (30°F-39°F), Monday scattered showers (34°F-45°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (32°F-46°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (31°F-43°F)
[21:13:20] <JamesNZ> Sunny too \o/
[21:14:03] <Bytram> ~weather NZ
[21:14:05] <exec> 03Wellington, New Zealand - currently 61°F, mostly sunny, wind NE at 2 mph, humidity 82% - Monday mostly sunny (53°F-67°F), Tuesday mostly sunny (51°F-67°F), Wednesday mostly sunny (58°F-69°F), Thursday cloudy (58°F-66°F)
[21:14:12] <Bytram> Huh! that worked?!!
[21:14:35] <JamesNZ> !grab Bytram
[21:14:35] <Bender> Added quote 447
[21:14:41] <Bytram> lol
[21:14:41] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[21:15:01] <chromas> ~last message=bobbing
[21:15:04] <exec> 03[2015-03-29 20:21:45] #Soylent <Bytram> I just keep bobbing hy head up & down... who needs forks?
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[21:28:24] * Bytram has to leave soon
[21:28:43] <Bytram> I put up a bug on github about the UTF-8 char problem: https://github.com
[21:28:44] <aqu4> Title for page "https://github.com/SoylentNews/slashcode/issues/435": "3Server Error when preview comment having char < 0x1f, or char==0x7f · Issue #435 · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub"
[21:38:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - E-Verify’s Slippery Slope - http://sylnt.us - are-judges-and-politicians-'hired'?
[21:38:21] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/va3qo": "3E-Verify’s Slippery Slope - SoylentNews"
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[23:09:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Passphrases You Can Memorize That Even The NSA Can’t Guess - http://sylnt.us - correct-horse-battery-staple
[23:09:30] <aqu4> Title for page "http://sylnt.us/ke7pc": "3Passphrases You Can Memorize That Even The NSA Can’t Guess - SoylentNews"
[23:11:26] <chromas> correct horse battery staple 2
[23:11:43] <paulej72> that's the combonation to my luggage
[23:12:49] <chromas> you have the Schwartz!
[23:13:32] <paulej72> Bytram: wrong repo for the bug report
[23:13:48] <paulej72> rehash bugs go into rehash repo
[23:14:17] <Bytram> oh. I clicked the link on the prod site... didn't know you had a different link.
[23:14:28] <Bytram> does dev's link go to the right place?
[23:14:45] <paulej72> nope
[23:14:56] <Bytram> btw, we still have a story category of "slash".... shouldn't that be "rehash"?
[23:15:02] <Bytram> well then!
[23:15:16] <paulej72> probably
[23:16:29] <Bytram> can you put up the right link on dev for submitting bugs? not an *immediate* need, as I am wiped and am ready for bed. but I'd like to get back at it sometime tomorrow pm.
[23:17:18] <paulej72> https://github.com
[23:17:19] <aqu4> Title for page "https://github.com/SoylentNews/rehash/issues": "3Issues · SoylentNews/rehash · GitHub"
[23:17:45] <Bytram> so, anything that I find on dev.soylentnews.org, from now on, should go there. right?
[23:17:57] <paulej72> yep
[23:18:12] <Bytram> (until, of course, you come out with rehash3 or somesuch.)
[23:18:22] <Bytram> k, thanks for the clarification!
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[23:18:37] * Bytram|away really needs some shuteye
[23:19:00] <Bytram|away> btw, I forgot to mention in my bug report, but I'd tried the same set of chars on my prod journal.
[23:19:52] <Bytram|away> you can the Utf-8 regression tests here: https://soylentnews.org
[23:19:53] <aqu4> Title for page "https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=6768": "3SoylentNews Comments | UTF-8 Regression Testing "
[23:20:08] <Bytram|away> g'night all!
[23:20:13] <paulej72> night
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