#Soylent | Logs for 2015-03-27

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[00:00:06] <chromas> the reason is that all the men have been taught to flee as fast as possible whenever someone brings up engagement
[00:00:32] <chromas> warpdrive is sheer willpower
[00:00:38] <chromas> collective willpower
[00:07:42] <SpallsHurgenson> yo momma's so fat she warps space 'round her just sittin there!
[00:08:13] <chromas> static warp shells…and cheese
[00:15:27] <juggs> To be fair any space SciFi film / tv or game would be hellishly dull if it stuck to the reality of their being no faster than light travel. Imagine a space trading game like that... purchase some goods, launch, set auto-pilot for the next nearest star - sit and wait ten thousand years++. That would be fun :D
[00:18:39] <chromas> it would be just like oil. price it based on speculation. only moreso
[00:22:59] <juggs> You'd get to the destination only to find the civilisation had collapsed due to civil strife and all the space ports were inoperative, so you get to turn around to travel back to where you came from for a few thousand years. Might be interesting to use a stasis construct to create a story arc within a game. Been done in films, but I'm not aware of a game that has gone that way as opposed to using FTL travel.
[00:26:48] <paulej72> moo
[00:26:53] <SpallsHurgenson> doesn't have to be thousands of years; assume a 1/8 speed of light and it's a short 35 year hop to the next star :)
[00:27:34] <chromas> their civilization collapsing is okay as long as they paid up front
[00:27:56] <paulej72> but there in nothing but trash at centari
[00:28:19] <chromas> racist
[00:29:12] <paulej72> what would be funny if all the math that astronomers use was junk and the destances to stars was totally different than what they calculated
[00:30:33] <SpallsHurgenson> Einstein always forgot to carry the 1 :)
[00:34:03] <juggs> such a shame that as a species we seem to devote so much of our resources to exterminating one another :(
[00:37:05] <SpallsHurgenson> to be fair, we've been far more successful at exterminating other species :)
[00:38:00] <juggs> so it goes as an apex predator. or is that apex parasite? :/
[00:38:29] <SpallsHurgenson> mind you, every other species on earth would willingly do the same to us if they had the opportunity or need :)
[00:38:46] <SpallsHurgenson> especially the rabbits. never trust a rabbit
[00:40:49] <paulej72> you know they breed like, ... well rabbits
[00:41:07] <SpallsHurgenson> its all part of their cunning plan!
[00:41:30] <paulej72> I don't think rabbits are in to oral
[00:41:56] <juggs> One rabbit stew coming right up :D https://www.youtube.com
[00:41:56] <NetCraft> ^ 03Monty Python The Holy Grail - The killer bunny - YouTube
[00:42:15] <SpallsHurgenson> 'es got big nasty teeth!
[00:49:29] * juggs ponders what the outcome would be in a pitched battle between all rabbits and domestic cats. I think the rabbits have the advantage in numbers but are less well equipped.
[00:51:47] <SpallsHurgenson> assuming the rabbits would fight (as opposed to run away?) the wild rabbits would kick the domesticated cats asses
[00:52:29] <SpallsHurgenson> wild rabbits are tough buggers when forced into a corner
[00:53:28] <paulej72> shh i'm hunting wabbits
[00:53:39] <SpallsHurgenson> but its duck season!
[00:54:03] <paulej72> ducks and rabbits are tasty animals
[00:55:14] <juggs> on the other hand the cats would manipulate their human slaves^W owners into fighting for them - that could even up the odds.
[00:57:16] <paulej72> has not worked in aurtrailia
[00:58:39] <SpallsHurgenson> thats because the rabbits have formed an alliance with the kangaroos
[00:59:43] <juggs> well they don't seem to have much luck in that regard. See "Great Emu War". I'm sure I brought that up here before, the deja vu is strong.
[01:00:15] <paulej72> emu is tasty too
[01:01:23] <paulej72> never had roo yet
[01:02:47] <juggs> I seem to remember emu farming being a fad here ~10 years ago. Not heard anything much of it since. No doubt it was some investment pump n dump scheme type thing.
[01:03:29] <paulej72> the problem was no one wanted go outside the norm and try it.
[01:03:54] <paulej72> emu is nice red meat, but lean.
[01:04:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I remember emu. it was expensive. that probably had more to do with its failure to catch on :)
[01:05:43] <paulej72> I did not buy what I had, I was at a family reunion and cousin's boyfriend work at an emu farm and brought some to cook on the grill
[01:09:25] <juggs> you're probably right on the going outside the norm thing paulej72. We have a horrible problem here with American Signal crayfish as an invasive species in our waterways. The logical solution is trap and eat the problem away. But UKites seems to have an aversion to eating crustaceans - which is a bit weird given we live on an island.
[01:09:51] <SpallsHurgenson> plus, its hard to fit an emu in an oven :)
[01:10:05] <juggs> take a machete to it
[01:17:40] <SpallsHurgenson> (<sigh> just discovered that kitty had an emetic-incident on the bed as well)
[01:18:13] <chromas> poor kitty
[01:18:25] <chromas> (a dog would hide the evidence)
[01:18:31] <SpallsHurgenson> poor kitty? poor bed!
[01:19:26] <juggs> yeh, I never understood that logic in dogs... "I just chucked that up, I'll eat it again" eh?
[01:20:09] <paulej72> dogs would just eat it.
[01:21:44] <SpallsHurgenson> it has something to do with acid balance, I seem to recall.
[01:22:57] <SpallsHurgenson> while humans tend to vomit only when we are sick or eat something we shouldn't have, dogs will vomit if they're tummies become too acidic. So they hurl up the food and then eat it down again, which balances things out down there somehow.
[01:23:04] <SpallsHurgenson> or at least thats how it was explained to me
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[01:26:28] <SpallsHurgenson> since our vomit is usually unhealthy - full of germs or poisonous - it wouldn't be safe to eat down again, so we evolved so the smell and taste was repugnant, but since dogs vomit for other reasons, there's no reason for them to let good food go to waste... so they snarf it up as soon as their tummies have settled down a bit :)
[01:27:11] <chromas> and poop. don't forget the poop
[01:27:54] * chromas notes that parmesan cheese also smells like vomit
[01:28:12] <paulej72> i think wolves got certain nutrients by eating the stomach conetents of their prey.
[01:28:29] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but look at it from the dogs point of view: they just eat it, we scoop it up and collect it in little baggies :)
[01:28:32] <paulej72> so they evolved to enjoy it
[01:31:08] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, got any refs for that acid theory? As a data point of one, I've known several dogs that seems to eat grass or horse shit seemingly with the intent to cause themselves to chuck up an hour or so later, only to gobble it it right back up again. Strange behaviour it seems. Perhaps there is something amiss with what we feed them.
[01:31:51] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: a vet from a few years back told me that
[01:32:17] <paulej72> my aunt's dog would eat the cat shit out of the litter box. we started calling them scooby snacks
[01:32:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't speak about the accuracy of his claim, or even if I'm remembering it correctly so take it with a grain of salt :)
[01:34:37] <juggs> Ooh - another thing that always interested me - why does seeing or hearing other humans chuck up cause some kind of sympathetic reaction in us to also chuck up? Maybe because we evolved eating in groups and if one member of the group is chucking up, we may also have eaten the same toxic / bad food so it would be best to chuck up to as a prophylactic measure?
[01:34:57] <juggs> too*
[01:35:02] <paulej72> probably
[01:35:12] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: that's the theory I'v heard
[01:35:32] <paulej72> makes sense so it can't be right :)
[01:35:53] <juggs> of course you have SpallsHurgenson - I just posed it in my question :P
[01:36:23] <paulej72> i have taught myself not to be repulsed by skunk odor
[01:36:50] <juggs> I've never experienced skunk odour. I hear it's pretty noxious
[01:37:49] <SpallsHurgenson> its potent and unpleasant
[01:38:01] <paulej72> yes, but most people smell it and are ready to puke. I just think oh, skunk. now if i was sprayed I might be thinking differently
[01:38:28] <SpallsHurgenson> I've never felt the urge to puke at the smell
[01:39:09] <paulej72> I had a rubic's cube like device that was in the shape of a pyrimid. It had a odor of skunk, so I got used to it over the years
[01:39:09] <SpallsHurgenson> its just an outstandingly strong musky smell. Not nice at all and I definitely wouldn't want to be squirted with the stuff but its just a smell
[01:39:52] <SpallsHurgenson> then again, I use windows so I'm used to foul substances :)
[01:40:17] <juggs> paulej72, the question has to be - why did your rubic's cube smell like skunk issuance?
[01:40:38] <paulej72> I not use but install and repair windows as my job
[01:40:58] <juggs> you will never be short of work :D
[01:41:17] <juggs> much like an undertaker
[01:41:50] <juggs> minus the gruesome blood draining and shit we generally don't like to think about
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[01:42:07] <paulej72> juggs there is a certain monmer that smells like skunk. I am not sure which one, but if not fully polymerized ti will keep that smell
[01:42:57] <paulej72> think it was due to poor qa on the Chineese production line.
[01:43:07] <juggs> quelle surprise
[01:43:54] <paulej72> http://www.amazon.com
[01:43:56] <NetCraft> ^ 03Amazon.com: Shengshou Triangle Pyramid Pyraminx Magic Cube Speed Puzzle Twist Toy Game Education White Edge: Toys & Games
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[01:44:27] <juggs> hola Bytram o/
[01:44:34] <Bytram> hiya!
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[01:45:03] <paulej72> Bytram: I could not fix the dev ssl issue
[01:45:04] <PePeLePew> you guys talkin' about moi?
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[01:45:22] <Bytram> paulej72: really? Looks like it is working okay, now!
[01:45:49] <paulej72> its still using devtest's cert
[01:46:08] * Bytram was once sprayed by a skunk -- would not wish on worst enemy
[01:46:11] <Bytram> huh!
[01:46:20] <juggs> paulej72, the issue appeared to be - you visit dev.SN it calls resources from devtest.SN hence the cert pop-up. Probably a slash config or something as regards the base url.
[01:46:41] <Bytram> juggs: that was my experience, as well.
[01:46:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study Shows Simulator Sickness Squelched by Simulated Schnoz - http://sylnt.us - nose-knows
[01:47:10] <juggs> I think it's in NC's bag to fix isn't it? On the "he touched it last" principle :D
[01:47:26] <paulej72> nope nginx is the ssl termnation. it has the dev and devtest certs, but when I remove the devtest config the site breaks.
[01:48:04] <Bytram> could it be that the dev *site* has something specifying a base url that points at devtest?
[01:48:36] <paulej72> devtest is not running and is not setup in the varnish config. I think the issue is that varnish is mis configured and is causing the issue with the bad nginx config working
[01:48:37] <juggs> paulej72, yes the site breaks. Because visiting dev.SN calls images and css files from devtest.SN.
[01:49:12] <paulej72> db is fuxked up;
[01:49:42] <paulej72> there is a stting or config wrong. let me see what I can find
[01:50:46] <Bytram> interesting... I am looking at my certs (palemoon)
[01:51:31] * juggs whacks Bytram for breaking things - why must you always break things? Damn vandal!! :D
[01:51:50] * Bytram smiles, apologetically. somewhat.
[01:52:30] <Bytram> I've got 3 where certificate name is: "SolynetNews PBC"; all are for "*.soylentnews.org" and one each are for the servers: tech.soylentnews.org, staff.soylentnews.org, and sentinel.soylentnews.org
[01:52:49] <juggs> Bytram, life gets interesting when you delete all CAs and certs from firefox / palemoon then pin each site's cert. CDNs such as cloudflare become a nightmare of warnings :D
[01:52:51] <Bytram> OTOH, I've got an "unknown" cert for devteest.soylentnews.org
[01:53:17] <Bytram> (that one is a temporary one; loaded it today)
[01:53:46] <Bytram> wait a minute...
[01:54:24] <juggs> Bytram, that would be right. You have accepted the *.SN cert for 3 different urls / servers, hence it appears 3 times. As long as all 3 match then that's fine and good.
[01:54:31] <Bytram> the other two certs are separate:
[01:54:40] <Bytram> (1) cert name: devtest.soylentnews.org for server: dev.soylentnews.org
[01:55:08] <Bytram> (2) dertname "(Not Stored)" !!?! for devtest.soylentnerws.org and it is permanent
[01:55:35] <Bytram> juggs: I have no doubt that it would become *very* interesting -- thanks for the warning!
[01:55:43] <juggs> what do you mean by "permanent"?
[01:55:57] <Bytram> column is named "Lifetime"
[01:56:22] <Bytram> I believe it means, that when I accepted the cert, I checked the box saying "make this permamnent" or somesuch
[01:56:42] <Bytram> as opposed to use it just for this session, and then fugeddaboudit
[01:56:51] <juggs> (Not Stored) means you chose the Confirm Exception option on the warning then unticked the box to store the exception. i.e. if you restart the browser that cert should be gone.
[01:57:02] <Bytram> k
[01:57:04] <Bytram> thanks!
[01:57:33] * Bytram is hungry and goes in search of prey
[01:57:35] <Bytram> brb
[01:58:39] <juggs> Not sure about the "permanent" or "Lifetime" entries. Perhaps it means the "Lifetime" of that browser instance? Strange choice of words if so.
[01:59:20] * juggs points Bytram towards the gaggle of emus
[02:02:23] * Bytram has no luck with prey but finds some game -- cribbage board
[02:02:46] <Bytram> well, actuall also found some bread and ham, too.
[02:04:41] <Bytram> all of the certs that I have on file have, in the "Lifetime" column the selection "Permanent" (about 20 or so of these) except for *one* and that is the certname: devtest.soyrtlenews.org for server dev.soylentnews.org that corresponds to the cert I accepted earlier this afternoon.
[02:04:47] <juggs> needs cheese and pickle
[02:05:58] <Bytram> hmmm, I could delete the non-PBC SN certs...
[02:06:36] <juggs> OK - so the "Permanent" column means you accepted it as a Permanent exception when the cert prompt came up. It will still prompt again when the cert passes its expiry date.
[02:06:57] <Bytram> that's what I am thinking, yes.
[02:07:12] <Bytram> simple to find out... Ima gonna delete those two certs
[02:07:32] <juggs> Restart your browser, the "Permanent" entries should remain the non-permanent should go away. In theory.
[02:07:54] <Bytram> too late -- already deleted 'em
[02:09:20] <juggs> An odd definition of "permanent" to be sure, but it tallies with the UI prompt to "Store Permanent Exception" or however it is phrased. What a complete clusterfuck ssl/tls certification is :(
[02:10:06] * Bytram tries to load *dev*.sn gets this warning re cert untrustewd:
[02:10:09] <Bytram> dev.soylentnews.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. The certificate is only valid for devtest.soylentnews.org
[02:10:29] <Bytram> IOW dev is trying to use the cert for devtest
[02:12:31] <Bytram> strangely enough, it seems that nothing from devtest has been requested, yet.
[02:15:32] <juggs> nothing can be requested from devtest until the TLS handshake completes to the the browser's satisfaction. i.e. the dev.SN page includes resources from devtest.SN. You hit the dev,SN page, the browser says "OK, I need X resource from devtest.SN to render this, let me set up a secure connection to that... oooh WARNING!" - so the actual resource request never happens.
[02:17:39] <paulej72> now if I remove the devtest config from nginx everything will fail. get a server not found error
[02:18:19] <paulej72> varnish must not be forwarding propelry
[02:20:03] <Bytram> juggs: yes, I think I follow that. I have an extension that I run with: "Live HTTP Headers" where I can select to be notified of all headers that are exchanged, and, separately of "Redirects, invaid, images, CSS, skipped, and Requests" (I have all of those selected)
[02:20:46] <juggs> paulej72, the question is, why does visiting a dev.SN page callout for devtest.SN resources (images / css) etc. ? That smells to me like a screwy config somewhere.
[02:20:58] <Bytram> looks like something is trying to load %servername%/resource, but instead of servername==dev, it actually contains servername==devtest, and hence the cert mismatchg
[02:27:27] <Bytram> afk biab
[02:28:01] <juggs> And this folks is why we have dev, testing, staging, live platforms all completely separate. At least we'd like to :(
[02:33:33] <Bytram> back
[02:33:42] <Bytram> yes, that would be ideal
[02:34:16] <paulej72> juggs I can't find where that is happening
[02:35:02] <juggs> paulej72, are you able to reproduce that it is indeed happening?
[02:35:19] <paulej72> juggs when I load the page it shows that it is loading form dev.sn
[02:38:50] <juggs> bizarre. I no longer see calls to devtest.SN when loading a page on dev.SN - but I do still get the devtest.SN cert served by dev.SN :/
[02:39:43] <Bytram> juggs: that is what I saw, too.
[02:39:57] <Bytram> almost as if we have the wrong cert in place there
[02:41:12] <paulej72> Bytram: yes the wrong cert is in place, but when I put the right one in place the site disappears
[02:41:22] <juggs> Bytram, something changed though - previously there were resources being called from devtest.SN weren't there or am I off in lunacy land again? /me scrolls up
[02:42:13] <juggs> Yep - your wall of texts post earlier confirms that was the case.
[02:42:22] <juggs> post(s)
[02:42:58] <Bytram> yep.
[02:43:15] <Bytram> NCommander: says that he just fixed it... amd trying to test. back in a nit
[02:43:19] <Bytram> s/nit/bit/
[02:43:19] <sedctl> <Bytram> says that he just fixed it... amd trying to test. back in a bit
[02:45:54] <Bytram> Pale Moon can't establish a connection to the server at dev.soylentnews.org.
[02:47:51] <SpallsHurgenson> neither can firefox. who tripped over the power cable?
[02:48:17] <Bytram> we needs moah powah
[02:50:03] <SpallsHurgenson> heheh, isitdownrightnow.com is down :)
[02:51:10] * Bytram can get down with that
[02:51:17] <Bytram> :)
[02:52:45] <juggs> can't beat bedding filled with down and feathers as opposed to the more modern synthetic fillings for such things - that's all I can say with any certainty at this point as chief mouth piece for SN :D
[02:53:12] <Bytram> feathering your cap, eh?
[02:53:19] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[02:53:21] <NetCraft> ^ 03​Patent group raises new fees -- and uncertainty -- for 4K video - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[02:53:22] <juggs> I do however trust NC and pj will sort out the current hiccup between them :D
[02:54:58] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, we all know they're using dev as a quake server :)
[02:55:17] <Bytram> shaking out the bugs.
[02:55:38] <SpallsHurgenson> with nailguns and rocket launchers :)
[02:55:57] * Bytram likes nerf guns
[02:56:08] <Bytram> juggs: FYI, we have stories queued up for the next 24hrs
[02:56:10] <Bytram> =)
[02:57:24] * Bytram had to beat janrinok aside, but that should let him rest up a bit. Baring any surprises, I should be able to push out some more stories sat PM.
[03:05:30] <juggs> Bytram, do you wear your underwear on the outside? QA and Ed all at once. Don't end up confined to bed rest by overdoing it please!
[03:05:59] * Bytram don't need no stinkin' underwear!
[03:07:58] <Bytram> juggs: point well taken. Thanks for the concern!
[03:08:28] <Bytram> that said, I needs to be at work in just under 9 hours, so I'm gonna call it a night and give it another go on the 'morrow
[03:17:59] <Bytram> NCommander++
[03:17:59] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 73
[03:18:03] <Bytram> paulej72++
[03:18:03] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 127
[03:18:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Deep Time and the Oldest Living Things in the World - http://sylnt.us - Great-Pyramid-is-about-4600-years-old
[03:18:08] <Bytram> paulej72++
[03:18:08] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 128
[03:18:11] <Bytram> NCommander++
[03:18:11] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 74
[03:18:16] <Bytram> juggs++
[03:18:16] <Bender> karma - juggs: 64
[03:18:44] <NCommander> ...
[03:18:57] <NCommander> juggs, and paulej72 are multiples of 8 and powers of 2
[03:18:58] <NCommander> :(
[03:19:19] <NCommander> I could use paulej72's karma to store four IPv4 addresses or ONE Ipv6 one
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[03:26:55] <paulej72> ip_math++
[03:26:55] <Bender> karma - ip_math: 1
[03:43:12] * juggs questions own sanity
[03:45:15] * juggs pokes chromas with a pointed stick
[03:45:45] * chromas emits a squee
[03:46:10] * SpallsHurgenson captures the squee and puts it in a small plastic baggie
[03:48:02] * chromas is playing borderlands and d3 at the same time
[03:48:14] <juggs> careful - it could be already pregnant and fill your forward view screen with offspring. The baggie won't help, it's not an oxygen breathing lifeform.
[03:53:58] <SpallsHurgenson> eeep! it got loose!
[03:54:06] <SpallsHurgenson> squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee! squee!
[03:55:57] <drgibbon> https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:56:02] <drgibbon> just thought you might like to know
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[03:57:31] <SpallsHurgenson> no. no no no. that's just wrong.
[03:59:16] <cmn32480> But something so wrong... looks so right! And YUMMY!
[04:00:33] <cmn32480> My wife and kids made me chocolate covered bacon for my birthday early in the week. Holy Awesome Batman!
[04:02:27] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure that's a sign they are trying to kill you
[04:02:50] <cmn32480> Possibly. But I would have died happy.
[04:03:59] <cmn32480> Like many things in life, don't knock it 'till you try it.
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[04:05:01] <cmn32480> I spent the week getting on and off airplanes... I should be exhausted. Instead I'm freaking wired
[04:05:08] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard! Early return sir! Or are you at a nearby Starbucks?
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[04:06:45] <juggs> cmn32480, change of timezones messing with you?
[04:06:57] <cmn32480> no it was all short hop in one time zone
[04:07:06] <SirFinkus> you scerd him juggs
[04:07:23] <juggs> sirecote, seems so RAWR
[04:07:37] <cmn32480> I haven't had caffeine for hours. Maybe that is the porblem
[04:07:51] <juggs> damn tab-complete
[04:08:29] <SirFinkus> foiled again
[04:08:57] * SpallsHurgenson watches the thrilling conclusion to the second season of Babylon 5. "Ohmigosh! Kosh is an angel!"
[04:09:28] <cmn32480> SirFinkus - Should that have been followed by a maniacal laugh?
[04:09:50] <SirFinkus> the laugh is implied after all of my messages
[04:10:04] <SirFinkus> although it's more of a sinister laugh
[04:10:18] <SirFinkus> think dastardly
[04:10:29] <SirFinkus> err, muttley
[04:11:00] <cmn32480> ahhh...
[04:11:25] <cmn32480> I was thinking more like a Dr. Evil, or perhaps a Count Dracula
[04:12:48] <juggs> SirFinkus, I elevate you to LordFinkus /me plops a sword on each shoulder. Should stop tab-complete faux pas at least. Seems convenient.
[04:13:01] SirFinkus is now known as LordFinus
[04:13:10] LordFinus is now known as LordFinkus
[04:13:19] <juggs> cod or haddock?
[04:13:39] <juggs> oh wait.. that's Findus
[04:13:51] <LordFinkus> either works
[04:16:18] <LordFinkus> [21:13:01] You're now known as LordFinus
[04:16:18] <LordFinkus> [21:13:04] -NerdRPG- Penalty of 1 day, 17:39:06 added to your timer for nick change.
[04:16:18] <LordFinkus> [21:13:11] You're now known as LordFinkus
[04:16:18] <LordFinkus> [21:13:14] -NerdRPG- Penalty of 1 day, 17:39:06 added to your timer for nick change.
[04:16:25] <LordFinkus> IT WAS A RUSE!
[04:16:28] LordFinkus is now known as SirFinkus
[04:18:23] <juggs> I'm so sorry SirFinkus, I never got into irpg that was not my intent.
[04:19:07] <SirFinkus> you liar! you're idling right now
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[04:23:52] <cmn32480> Sirfinkus - See 2:11 at this link for the laugh I was thinking of. https://www.youtube.com
[04:23:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03H.M. Murdock Tribute - All The Small Things - YouTube
[04:25:19] <SirFinkus> I may have used the wrong adjective
[04:25:19] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[04:25:20] <NetCraft> ^ 03Muttley laugh-mix - YouTube
[04:26:33] <cmn32480> OK... the really funny part was the next video was a cat video ... what'r the odds?
[04:26:47] <cmn32480> more of a sarcastic giggle
[04:27:12] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[04:27:12] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wacky Races - Dick Dastardly run over - compilation - YouTube
[04:27:15] <SirFinkus> better compilation
[04:28:19] <cmn32480> see that made me giggle
[04:31:24] <cmn32480> OK... I'm gonna try to go to bed (again) night all
[04:31:50] <SirFinkus> night
[04:33:29] <juggs> night cmn32480, don't have nightmares about wolves' rabid heads coming out of the wall to talk to you! That would be bad.
[04:47:36] <juggs> SirFinkus, I never joined the irpg game - I sit in there, but I'm not a participant
[04:47:59] <SirFinkus> ah, so you're a spy
[04:48:57] <juggs> better?
[04:50:08] <juggs> now I am not in there :P
[04:50:19] <chromas> you should go back in and talk :D
[04:55:03] <juggs> chromas, nah. I might rename the channel #quakers though.
[04:58:02] <juggs> On 2nd thoughts, just leaving shit alone to allow people to get on with what they want to do sits right with me.
[05:01:24] <chromas> where's the fun in that?
[05:01:36] <drgibbon> there's some wisdom right there
[05:04:09] <juggs> where? :/
[05:06:20] <drgibbon> leaving it alone ;)
[05:06:54] <drgibbon> getting on with what they want to do
[05:06:58] <drgibbon> ye ye
[05:11:32] <juggs> I've lost my sarcasm filter. I'm just stepping out, I may be gone a while.
[05:19:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Shape Shifting Frog Poses Problems for Taxonomists - http://sylnt.us - kamouflaged-kermit
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[05:28:34] <drgibbon> no sarcasm intended
[05:29:19] <drgibbon> juggs: no sarcasm intended
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[06:24:06] <Subsentient> http://imgur.com
[06:24:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03tell all your friends - Imgur
[06:28:13] * chromas lols
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[07:28:49] <SirFinkus> hey crutchy
[07:29:16] <SirFinkus> just wanted to let you know I got some new ear muffs
[07:29:38] <SirFinkus> 5 checkmarks, a certified product from the Australian Standard
[07:29:47] <SirFinkus> says so on the band
[07:32:56] <crutchy> checkmarks?
[07:33:23] <crutchy> cool anyway. good to have decent headphones
[07:33:49] <crutchy> got a couple pairs but they just average
[07:39:45] <crutchy> damn bot is having a flood fest
[07:42:42] <JamesNZ> Hello, fellow Friday-ian \o
[07:43:08] <crutchy> friday? it's the weekend! WOOHOO!
[07:43:42] * crutchy ate too much pizza :/
[07:49:29] <SirFinkus> yeah, looks like the comments bot decided to kick in
[07:49:39] <SirFinkus> some goofy logo
[07:51:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 3D Plastic Recycler Converts Waste Plastic into New Feedstock - http://sylnt.us
[07:52:58] <crutchy> goofy logo?
[07:53:33] <crutchy> oh the cog thing?
[07:55:06] <crutchy> from the "i'm-a-barbie-cow-in-a-barbie...err"
[07:55:09] <crutchy> dept.
[07:55:49] <crutchy> oh woops. not feedstock for cows :p
[07:56:19] <crutchy> stupid bot always floods that channel after its been offline all day
[08:02:39] * chromas moves that the bot remains online
[08:05:05] * chromas applies to give exec citizenship
[08:08:07] * crutchy hereby seconds a motion set forth hereth by chromas of soylent that we shall henceforth establish a committee to put forth a motion to investigate the prospective possibility of said bot in question which intends to apply to make an application to the subcommittee's department of administrative citizenship applications.... what was i on about?
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[08:08:44] <chromas> the itty bitty botty committee
[08:09:09] <crutchy> chromas, s/y/y titty/2
[08:09:09] <sedctl> <crutchy> <chromas> the itty bitty titty botty committee
[08:09:27] <chromas> that sounds made up
[08:11:31] <crutchy> what aabout if i said i was the mighty bewb_
[08:12:11] NetCraft is now known as TheMightyJuggs
[08:12:33] <crutchy> /nick TheMightyBuzzard
[08:12:56] <crutchy> followed by "for the record, i love obama!"
[08:13:19] <crutchy> and "socialism is my best friend" :D
[08:13:25] <crutchy> ooh
[08:13:28] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:13:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1211
[08:13:32] <crutchy> coffee++
[08:13:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1212
[08:14:06] <crutchy> heh
[08:14:09] <crutchy> "The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action."
[08:14:44] TheMightyJuggs is now known as TheMightyBuzzard
[08:14:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> I like wang
[08:15:07] <crutchy> heh. you're even the same color
[08:15:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> everyone is entitled to free shit
[08:15:44] TheMightyBuzzard is now known as SoyGuest89382
[08:15:47] <SoyGuest89382> when's the timeout
[08:15:48] <crutchy> loggie: yum yum munch munch
[08:15:52] <crutchy> aw
[08:15:58] SoyGuest89382 is now known as TheMightyBewbage
[08:16:32] <TheMightyBewbage> is this nick offensive? Does anybody feel triggered?
[08:16:35] <crutchy> gotta remember to do summin when he comees back
[08:16:57] <crutchy> ~last nick=themightybuzzard channel=#soylent message=wang
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[08:17:22] <crutchy> derp
[08:17:44] <chromas> I bet you could have a hexchat script
[08:18:20] <chromas> when you use a ~ it could check the nick list for exec and send a message if it'sn't here
[08:18:55] <crutchy> i dunno how to do that. i should hire a programmer
[08:21:20] <crutchy> http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com
[08:21:20] <TheMightyBewbage> ^ 03Has the Large Hadron Collider destroyed the world yet?
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[08:32:13] <JamesNZ> I like the comments in the source.
[08:48:54] <crutchy> http://3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592.com
[08:48:55] <TheMightyJuggs> ^ 03Pi to 1,000,000 places
[09:54:33] <crutchy> ~openthepodbaydoors
[09:54:34] <exec> "One religion is as true as another."
[09:54:34] <exec> [Robert Burton (1577-1640),
[09:54:34] <exec> The Anatomy of Melancholy]
[09:57:15] <chromas> no sir! you take that back right now! Gumdrop commands you!
[09:58:15] <crutchy> dammit. i was trying to reply to Jaruzel's journal https://soylentnews.org
[09:58:16] <TheMightyJuggs> ^ 03SN journal Commitment 04(0 comments)
[09:58:34] <crutchy> but i got cockblocked by the banhammer :/
[09:58:43] <crutchy> http://paste.my.to
[10:00:12] * chromas offers to postanon
[10:01:54] <chromas> coffee++ # 'cause I'm cool like that and saying so makes it so
[10:01:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1213
[10:03:26] <crutchy> chromas++ # for being so cool i had to put my jacket on
[10:03:26] <Bender> karma - chromas: 87
[10:23:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SRI International to Offer Iris Biometric-Embedded Products for Mobile B2B Applications - http://sylnt.us - poke-his-eye-out
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[11:54:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 19th Century Astronomical Time Travel - http://sylnt.us - looking-back-in-time
[12:32:52] <crutchy> ~queue
[12:32:54] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 15 - http://sylnt.us
[12:45:01] <paulej72> !uid
[12:45:01] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5175, owned by Malohin
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[12:59:13] <prospectacle> hi soylent
[12:59:13] <ciri> hello, whats up prospectacle
[12:59:21] <paulej72> hola
[12:59:25] <prospectacle> not much, ciri bot, what you up to?
[12:59:40] <prospectacle> hi paulj72
[12:59:41] <ciri> what offerings do you bring? prospectacle
[13:00:02] <prospectacle> s/paulj72/paulej72/
[13:00:02] <sedctl> <prospectacle> hi paulej72
[13:03:06] <prospectacle> What's been happening?
[13:19:50] <prospectacle> sounds interesting
[13:20:44] <crutchy> ~g'day prospectacle
[13:20:45] * exec suspiciously offers a cold can of $insert_beverage_here to prospectacle
[13:20:52] <crutchy> :/
[13:21:31] <prospectacle> hey crutchy, what's up?
[13:21:40] <prospectacle> ooh my favourite drink
[13:24:22] <paulej72> prospectacle: I have been getting IRC ready to move to a different server as part of our server consolodation project.
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[13:33:51] <prospectacle> sounds like fun. We're changing servers at work, to amazon. They're very fast, which is good I guess.
[13:34:22] <paulej72> but cloudy so you always need to worry about the rain
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[13:35:38] <paulej72> hola janrinok
[13:37:14] <janrinok> hi paulej72 how are you?
[13:37:14] <ciri> tach janrinok
[13:37:29] <paulej72> not bad, and you
[13:37:50] <janrinok> well, taking it easy (or easier) just as the doc ordered
[13:38:03] <paulej72> good to hear
[13:38:25] <janrinok> it's difficult though.....
[13:39:23] <paulej72> understandable
[13:39:59] <prospectacle> hi janrinok
[13:40:06] <janrinok> prospectacle: hi, sup?
[13:40:19] <prospectacle> paulej72, I believe they'll sell you the umbrella add-on for only a modest increase in fees
[13:40:39] <prospectacle> janrinok, putting off going to bed. There must be something on the internet to watch
[13:40:51] <prospectacle> Also I've updated my typing game. http://typerise.com
[13:40:54] <prospectacle> What you up to?
[13:41:02] <janrinok> lol - are you frightened of the dark?
[13:41:12] <paulej72> does that help for the shitstorm when the servers go down due to a network or amazon issue
[13:41:23] <prospectacle> nah just like staying up, don't want to feel like the day's over I guess
[13:41:57] <janrinok> me, I'm doing very little. I'm just 2nd editing some of bytram's stories but he is getting better, - there is not much to do
[13:42:06] <prospectacle> paulej72, probably not, I just made it up. Wouldn't surprise me though
[13:42:32] <prospectacle> janrinok, that's a bit rude, tell him to let his standards slip a little so you've got something to do
[13:43:02] <janrinok> I said he's getting better - not that he is good!
[13:43:40] <prospectacle> Ah well that's ok then
[13:44:14] <crutchy> bytram++ # regexpert and bugfinder extraordinaire
[13:44:14] <Bender> karma - bytram: 46
[13:44:36] <janrinok> yep - he is good at breaking things.
[13:44:42] <janrinok> crutchy: hi
[13:50:10] <janrinok> I've just discovered that I have not been receiving staff emails for almost a year. Or, more correctly, the people running my designated email server have only been forwarding a small percentage of those that they have received for me. They are saying it is at my end, but Thunderbird works for some emails from them, and for 4 other addresses too without problem.
[13:50:34] <janrinok> scratching head at present
[13:52:20] <prospectacle> Yeah email's a bad system. It's amazing it's still so popular.
[13:52:44] <prospectacle> I don't like sending a receipt when I open an email, but I'd be happy if people know that I *received* the mail. Then I can read it at my leisure
[13:53:31] <prospectacle> Also of course some optional signing/encryption wouldn't hurt. Once you've added someone to your contact list the emails from them are always verified and signed and encrypted
[13:54:52] <janrinok> Unfortunately, and despite my best efforts, my 'important' email addresses always seem to get leaked by some infected Windows computer meaning my SPAM increases - SpamAssassin works for me though.
[13:56:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Interview With Astronaut Scott Kelly or How To Fly A Spaceship To The Space Station - http://sylnt.us - up-up-and-away
[13:57:50] <prospectacle> I'd be happy for anonymous emails to be a thing, but for those purporting to be from a real and reputable source, they should be traceable, then spam would be easy to prosecute, and would diminish a great deal.
[13:58:28] <crutchy> hi janrinok
[13:58:28] <ciri> hi there crutchy
[13:58:36] <prospectacle> Oh well, email was invented in an innocent and idealistic time. I guess in a way we've failed it, not the other way around.
[13:58:39] <janrinok> well, greater minds than mine have tried to fix the problem before me, and I suspect it will live longer than I will!
[13:58:47] <crutchy> off to count sheep for me
[13:58:51] <crutchy> ~time
[13:58:53] <exec> Saturday, 28 March 2015 @ 12:58 am GMT+11 - Melbourne VIC
[13:58:57] <janrinok> sleep well crutchy
[13:59:16] <crutchy> till tomorrow, with lots of coffee :D
[13:59:31] <crutchy> s/ee/ee++/
[13:59:31] <sedctl> <crutchy> till tomorrow, with lots of coffee++ :D
[14:00:31] <prospectacle> bye crutchy
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[14:07:20] <janrinok> is null a bot or someone who is really unlucky...?
[14:07:34] <prospectacle> maybe both?
[14:07:54] <janrinok> an unlucky bot! - damn the programmers are getting smarter
[14:07:57] <prospectacle> it's the dark ages when it comes to robot rights. Imagine being born (a robot) today, as opposed to, say, a hundred years from now
[14:08:19] <prospectacle> talk about unlucky
[14:08:27] <janrinok> I can remember when bots didn't have rights....
[14:08:58] <janrinok> ...remember the massive bot marches of 2057?
[14:09:31] <janrinok> .. now bots have more rights than US companies!
[14:09:57] <prospectacle> we were so afraid, but it turns out all they want to do is meet all of our needs and take all of our money
[14:10:22] <janrinok> and we just didn't realise, and treated them like we do ciri!
[14:10:29] <prospectacle> ciri--
[14:10:29] <Bender> karma - ciri: -29
[14:10:30] <prospectacle> lol
[14:10:45] <prospectacle> that's for being unlucky, ciri
[14:11:00] <janrinok> ... and irritating too
[14:17:13] <prospectacle> Well my game score is getting worse not better each time. I think it must be bed time
[14:17:16] <prospectacle> Maybe one more go...
[14:27:30] <janrinok> prospectacle: does receiving random comments on IRC spoil your score?
[14:28:20] <prospectacle> that could be worth considering. Ok I'll play for 60 seconds and you send random comments, ready....
[14:28:21] <prospectacle> go!
[14:28:31] <janrinok> prospectacle: another comment
[14:28:44] <janrinok> prospectacle: did the last comment help?
[14:29:03] <janrinok> prospectacle: am I winning?
[14:29:23] <janrinok> prospectacle: it's no fun if you don't reply
[14:29:37] <janrinok> prospectacle: bet I'm winning really
[14:29:46] <prospectacle> hmm, no better
[14:29:53] <janrinok> prospectacle: 6 comments and not out1
[14:29:56] <prospectacle> 76wpm, I think i can do better in short bursts
[14:29:57] <janrinok> out!*
[14:30:04] <prospectacle> probably not hte comments though
[14:30:22] <janrinok> have you got a good steady rhythm?
[14:30:31] <prospectacle> when I'm in the zone
[14:30:46] <prospectacle> sometimes I'm pressing backspace every other key, which is why I figure I need to play more to improve my precision and habits
[14:31:12] <janrinok> when I was taught - as a teleprinter operator - the rhythm and accuracy were far more important than the speed. The speed will always come with practice
[14:31:12] <prospectacle> it's not fun when you keep messing up. Even if you get lots of work done, it's frustrating work
[14:31:45] <prospectacle> Yeah that makes sense, I need to focus more on accuracy
[14:32:00] <janrinok> 40wpm accurate is more productive than 80wpm with errors
[14:32:53] <prospectacle> I can do sometimes do 80 or 90 wpm with about 95% accuracy but only if I concentrate and don't let myself race
[14:33:03] <prospectacle> I think my problem is bad habits more than anything
[14:33:04] <janrinok> with a teleprinter, if the message was wrong you had to find out which bits to repeat, then re-send them, and wait for confirmation
[14:33:15] <prospectacle> ah, gotta get it right, then
[14:34:15] <prospectacle> What's a teleprinter?
[14:34:25] <janrinok> it's the same on a computer - "File not found" is a waste of time if you have simply mis-spelled the filename
[14:34:29] <janrinok> lol
[14:34:58] <janrinok> well, I started out with morse, and then 'graduated' to tpr
[14:36:18] <prospectacle> is that where you type and it sends directly to the other end attached with a phone-line?
[14:36:49] <janrinok> that's a modem grasshopper - teleprinter, was an entirely different kettle of fish
[14:37:52] * janrinok mumbles 'youth of today", "young 'uns" and "Get off my lawn"
[14:39:04] <paulej72> just submitted my frist real story :)
[14:39:24] <prospectacle> hmm. wikipedia says you could use phone lines to send teleprinter messages (although apparently there's lots of other channels you could use too)
[14:39:32] <prospectacle> paulej72++
[14:39:32] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 129
[14:39:57] <janrinok> yep, but mine were radio links to the far-flung corners of what was then a dying empire
[14:40:06] <prospectacle> romantic
[14:42:06] <prospectacle> paulej72 - the difference in lux between outside under a tree, and inside a well lit room is incredible.
[14:42:20] <prospectacle> after reading your submission I don't think I'm getting nearly enough lux in my diet
[14:42:24] <paulej72> sure is
[14:44:18] <prospectacle> it's funny how long it takes between inventitng something "useful" (like artificial lighting, cars, industrial food production) and discovering we actually need to do those things we've replaced (see sunlight, walk a lot, eat lots of fiber)
[14:44:20] <janrinok> paulej72: are you happy to have it go out at any time, or would you like your sub to hit the big time?
[14:46:37] <prospectacle> well goodnight all. Good work on submitting a story paulej72, the more the merrier
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[14:46:53] <janrinok> bye prospectacle
[14:47:01] <janrinok> damn he went quickly....
[14:51:23] <paulej72> janrinok: i have no issues on when it goes out
[14:52:04] <paulej72> need to space out thoes phoenix articles
[14:56:09] <janrinok> well it's either phoenix666 or HughPickens!
[14:57:23] <paulej72> :)
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[18:59:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Welcome to the New Editors - http://sylnt.us
[19:30:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How 'Virtual Water' Can Help Ease California’s Drought - http://sylnt.us - price-versus-cost
[19:56:04] <cmn32480> what's a good Windows IRC client? The web client works fine for occasional use, but an actual client would be better
[19:59:21] <cmn32480> I know... saying Windows in this channel is like cussing
[19:59:28] <janrinok> but I think all chans are quiet at the moment.
[19:59:54] <janrinok> we have a few windows users, it is not uncommon
[20:00:21] <cmn32480> the percentages are quite skewed from the real world
[20:00:45] <janrinok> yes, probably
[20:03:01] <paulej72> cmn32480: i am using hexchat
[20:04:05] <paulej72> once I got the colors setup I like it.
[20:05:49] <cmn32480> that is a s good a recomendation as I can ask for. I'll give it a shot and see where I land
[20:05:55] <cmn32480> Thanks Paulej72
[20:06:32] <paulej72> using the black theme currently
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[20:16:36] <mrcoolbp> pauelj72: any idea about this question:
[20:16:50] <mrcoolbp> " charset=iso-8859-1 " "
[20:16:50] <mrcoolbp> Why is the charset latin-1? Or is that caused by my browser's request? "
[20:17:04] <mrcoolbp> oops, paulej72 ^
[20:18:10] <paulej72> I think that is the default error lang for varnish which sends some of thoes messages. or apache depending on the errror.
[20:19:05] * mrcoolbp copypastas that
[20:19:40] <paulej72> errrrrrror
[20:20:24] <mrcoolbp> thoes
[20:20:49] * mrcoolbp considers just putting [sic] after the quote = )
[20:21:04] <paulej72> why yes I am
[20:21:50] <mrcoolbp> heh, you have your moments
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[20:22:36] <paulej72> shhh, wuit talking about him
[20:22:53] <Bytram> too late... I've already looked at the logs afore I came online!
[20:23:13] <Bytram> j/k
[20:23:15] <Bytram> !uid
[20:23:16] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5175, owned by Malohin
[20:23:23] <Bytram> movin on up!
[20:23:26] <Bytram> coffee++
[20:23:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1214
[20:23:34] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[20:23:35] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 42°F, cloudy, wind NE at 7 mph, humidity 86% - Friday scattered snow showers (35°F-44°F), Saturday snow (23°F-35°F), Sunday partly cloudy (31°F-42°F), Monday cloudy (34°F-47°F)
[20:23:52] <mrcoolbp> snow?
[20:23:58] * mrcoolbp has seen none of this
[20:26:32] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[20:26:34] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 48°F, mostly cloudy, wind S at 6 mph, humidity 56% - Friday cloudy (32°F-46°F), Saturday snow showers (18°F-37°F), Sunday sunny (29°F-42°F), Monday scattered showers (31°F-44°F)
[20:26:38] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, me
[20:26:40] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 37°F, cloudy, wind N at 6 mph, humidity 57% - Friday partly cloudy (15°F-39°F), Saturday mostly cloudy (6°F-33°F), Sunday mostly sunny (21°F-39°F), Monday rain and snow (29°F-42°F)
[20:29:14] <Bytram> cmn32480: FYI: I use hexchat and it seems to do a fine job as an IRC client
[20:29:22] <Bytram> lemme see if I can find you a link
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[20:30:03] <Bytram> cmn32480: looks like I got mine from: "http://dl.hexchat.net/hexchat/HexChat%%202.10.0%%20x86.exe"
[20:30:36] <Bytram> whoops
[20:30:39] <cmn32480> I down;oaded it a few min ago Bytram
[20:30:42] <Bytram> had double %'s in there...
[20:30:43] <Bytram> http://dl.hexchat.net
[20:30:46] <Bytram> lOL!
[20:31:01] <cmn32480> and I'm on x64. But the effort is appreciated
[20:31:09] <Bytram> np
[20:31:17] <cmn32480> now I gotta figure out the themes and colors and stuff
[20:31:29] <cmn32480> though it really sin't bad out of the box.
[20:32:06] <Bytram> I don't recall making any changes to the themes
[20:32:22] <Bytram> cmn32480: are you using it right now?
[20:33:52] <cmn32480> I am
[20:34:07] <Bytram> kewel!
[20:34:09] <cmn32480> Paulej72 had suggested the Black theme
[20:34:59] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:35:18] <cmn32480> I did set it to run on startup and log into these channels automatically'
[20:35:34] <Bytram> for UTF-8 char support, I am using "Unifont CSUR 14"
[20:35:51] <Bytram> need 14pt in order to make it readable :/
[20:36:49] <cmn32480> I have big monitors. 12 works good
[20:37:13] <Bytram> do you have that font already?
[20:37:22] <cmn32480> I did revers the background adn forground colors
[20:37:33] <cmn32480> checking
[20:37:51] <Bytram> I found the base font, here: http://unifoundry.com
[20:38:04] <Bytram> and the upper here: http://unifoundry.com
[20:44:00] <cmn32480> Always a little iffy downloading fonts from the internet...
[20:44:12] <paulej72> I hve not tried hexchat with the unifont. I should do that :)
[20:45:51] <Bytram> those are from GNU
[20:46:25] <Bytram> description of those fonts is here: http://unifoundry.com
[20:46:27] <TheMightyJuggs> ^ 03GNU Unifont Glyphs
[20:46:37] <cmn32480> probably safe.
[20:46:46] <Bytram> seems the download dir is here: http://unifoundry.com
[20:46:46] <TheMightyJuggs> ^ 03Index of /pub
[20:48:21] <Bytram> looks like they've done some updates since I last did a D/L of the fonts.
[20:48:34] * Bytram has 7.0.3 and now they are up to 7.0.6
[20:48:41] * Bytram wonders how much is different?
[20:49:46] <Bytram> back in a bit...
[20:50:00] <paulej72> 💩
[20:51:17] * Bytram sees numbered squares around a Pile-opf-Poo
[20:51:51] <paulej72> I don't even see that
[20:52:01] <Bytram> afk - finish prepping dinner
[20:52:07] <paulej72> just the numbered squares
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[21:09:33] <paulej72> beer_at_work ++
[21:09:42] <paulej72> beer_at_work++
[21:09:42] <Bender> karma - beer_at_work: 1
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[21:15:44] * SirFinkus is listening to Clutch — 50,000 Unstoppable Watts, from the album Strange Cousins From The West
[21:15:55] <SirFinkus> ANTHRAX, HAM RADIO, AND LIQUOR!
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[21:26:03] <paulej72> ~define sanguine
[21:26:05] <exec> [urbandictionary] 03sanguine: Cheery, full of blood.
[21:26:23] <Bytram> IOW a happy vampire
[21:33:45] <SirFinkus> how the fuck does this bumblebee keep getting in my room?
[21:33:51] <SirFinkus> I've let it out 3 times
[21:33:54] <SirFinkus> outside
[21:35:36] <SirFinkus> bumblebees are cool and all, but this one is getting smacked if it does it again
[21:40:40] <Bytram> it prolly thinks you are so sweet
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[22:09:58] <crutchy> coffee_with_cream++
[22:09:58] <Bender> karma - coffee_with_cream: 1
[22:10:19] <crutchy> coffee++ # for TheMightyBuzzard
[22:10:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1215
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[22:19:41] <crutchy> i dunno if i'm just a weirdo but i really like the little firefox star animation when i click on the bookmark button
[22:23:18] <JamesNZ> weirdos++
[22:23:18] <Bender> karma - weirdos: 1
[22:33:21] <SirFinkus> the little puff of smoke in older versions of osx when you removed stuff from the dock is neat too
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[22:54:09] <crutchy> ~queue
[22:57:10] <crutchy> ~queue
[22:57:12] <exec> *** SN submission queue: plenty - http://sylnt.us
[22:58:18] <chromas> hah
[22:59:21] <crutchy> "Exporters in Australia are literally selling sand to Arabs."
[22:59:24] <crutchy> wow
[22:59:30] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:31] <TheMightyJuggs> ^ 0304SN Submission by Phoenix666: Tan Gold: the Global War for Sand
[23:00:46] * crutchy wonders if its actual sand that we export or sand mixed with other stuff
[23:01:13] <chromas> well yeah you gotta cut it to maximize the profits and keep 'em hooked
[23:01:19] <crutchy> haha
[23:01:21] <crutchy> yeah
[23:02:16] * crutchy has started trying to figure out a way to manipulate a mysql schema structure from wiki page content
[23:02:40] <crutchy> creating/altering/dropping on the fly
[23:03:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Healthy Public Domain Generates Millions in Economic Value—not Bad for ‘Free’ - http://sylnt.us - priceless
[23:03:04] <crutchy> need a confirmation page methinks
[23:03:06] <chromas> sounds naughty
[23:03:15] <crutchy> maybe a password
[23:04:05] <crutchy> my attempts to win over management's dependence on a planning app have so far failed
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[23:04:41] <crutchy> i think uber-flexibility in the existing wiki (which seems to be very slowly building some dependence) seems like prolly the best way
[23:05:16] <chromas> tell them it lets them leverage the cloud while maximating the securitizers
[23:05:35] <crutchy> i've already been asked to make a small app that allows users to enter some text in a box and click an "add" button, which appends the text in the box to the article content
[23:06:02] <crutchy> got that working last night (in a test article)
[23:06:41] <crutchy> just some javascript and a form, but i had to add a couple more templates to get existing content (url encoded)
[23:08:26] * crutchy discovered the js decodeURIComponent function
[23:11:01] <crutchy> aw shit
[23:11:30] <crutchy> just pushed a whole bunch of useless crap to gh
[23:11:44] <crutchy> :/
[23:11:45] * chromas downloads befire it disappears
[23:11:53] <chromas> oo, work stuff!
[23:12:33] <crutchy> nah just stuff that has been deleted in the past
[23:13:03] <crutchy> but the webserver copy just accumulated it all cos rsync didn't delete anything
[23:18:23] <crutchy> just moved about 100 files. i think there's still about 50-odd old files mixed in
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[23:24:31] <crutchy> tracked down another 18 files
[23:25:06] <paulej72> 18 flies
[23:28:51] <crutchy> http://www.nytimes.com
[23:28:52] <TheMightyJuggs> ^ 03 ( http://www.nytimes.com )
[23:29:07] <crutchy> derp
[23:29:14] <crutchy> ~title http://www.nytimes.com
[23:29:23] <exec> portion of title left of " - " exists in url
[23:29:44] <crutchy> hmm
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[23:37:42] <mrcoolbp> Phoenix666++
[23:37:42] <Bender> karma - phoenix666: 1
[23:42:11] <crutchy> i think that NYT page borked cos it brings up a login page
[23:42:16] <crutchy> omg the internet lies!
[23:43:27] <crutchy> can't seem to get it up in firefox though. only the bots seem to get it
[23:43:39] <crutchy> maybe there's some wacky header stuff going on
[23:44:36] <chromas> loads fer me
[23:49:10] <crutchy> hmm
[23:49:13] <crutchy> i get:
[23:49:15] <crutchy> 2015-03-27 23:49:00 > filtered_url = httpsmyaccountnytimescomauthloginurihttp3a2f2fwwwnytimescom2finteractive2f20152f032f262fworld2feurope2fgermanwingscockpitdoorlockhtml3fr3d5refusecookieerrorshowerror
[23:49:15] <crutchy> 2015-03-27 23:49:00 > filtered_title = loginthenewyorktimes
[23:49:43] <crutchy> hmm. why is it changing the url?
[23:49:50] <crutchy> fkin bot
[23:53:37] <crutchy> hmm. i get this response from the original url: http://paste.my.to
[23:53:46] <crutchy> wonder what causes that
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[23:54:34] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[23:54:50] <crutchy> dude
[23:54:55] <Ethanol-fueled> WUT
[23:55:01] <crutchy> sweet
[23:55:25] <Ethanol-fueled> A mildly amusing movie, like most Hollywood B.S.
[23:55:29] <crutchy> yeah
[23:55:45] <crutchy> been watching weird japanese anime lately
[23:55:48] <crutchy> much more interesting
[23:55:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Some Anime is actually decent.
[23:56:02] <crutchy> i like it
[23:56:40] <crutchy> its not the fucked up hentai stuff. not even any bewb, but still entertaining
[23:56:57] <Ethanol-fueled> I've seen some decent Anime, Agreed there.
[23:57:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Used to have a bunch of Weebs as friends
[23:57:57] <crutchy> i like watching it in japanese with english subs, cos voiceovers are ghey
[23:58:35] <crutchy> hows yer school shit going?
[23:59:37] <crutchy> heh. i remember a corny bart simpson quote that went something like 'stay in school man, or you'll have to go to work'
[23:59:45] <Ethanol-fueled> SHeeeeit...
[23:59:51] <Ethanol-fueled> School's easy now.