#Soylent | Logs for 2015-03-22

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[00:08:07] <arti> hmm
[00:08:20] <arti> !decide yes no "maybe so"
[00:08:20] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: maybe so.
[00:15:58] <TLA> IIRC *DSL uses assigned static IPs, cable (FTTC or straight coax) uses a contended pool assigned by DHCP on a 12 hour lease (usually). You'd have to call the carrier if you're on DSL and want a new IP, all you have to do on cable is power off the router for half a day.
[00:18:14] <chromas> do DSL users get static IPs to make up for the lack of speed?
[00:21:37] <ar> TLA: i have internets from a cable company and last time my ip changed was on 14 March 2014
[00:22:36] <TLA> possibly. Back around 2004 I had a cable connection that overtook OC48 leased line in terms of raw speed, then someone told me that the OC48 was priced silly because you're paying for guaranteed uptime. I didn't feel so big suddenly.
[00:24:17] <crutchy> washington_times-- # cos i stayed on a page for too long without clicking anything so it refreshed for me
[00:24:17] <Bender> karma - washington_times: -1
[00:24:30] <crutchy> i'm sure their advertisers are happier :/
[00:24:48] <arti> :D
[00:24:52] <TLA> ar: you got some good uptime :) I got back on cable four months ago, I've had 99.97 uptime at my end and 1 WAN IP, the longest I've been off is when someone cut a fibre over at the tram works. They had the bundle replaced in ten hours.
[00:24:54] <arti> was that the carry one?
[00:24:58] <crutchy> yeah
[00:25:03] <crutchy> the comments are funny
[00:25:18] <arti> comments are spectacle
[00:25:38] <crutchy> that "RamonMendozaGA" dude is brainwashed bad
[00:26:03] <arti> ga stands for google analytics.
[00:26:06] <arti> he's part of the hive
[00:26:24] <crutchy> a lot of conservatives are dicks too, but liberals can be downright retarded
[00:26:38] <TLA> Washington Times+ carry=firearms thread?
[00:26:41] <arti> as if any one side has a monopoly
[00:26:48] <crutchy> arti, true
[00:26:53] * arti is a link emitting robot
[00:26:55] <arti> http://www.washingtontimes.com
[00:26:56] <NetCraft> ^* 03Chicago crime rate drops as concealed carry gun permit applications surge - Washington Times
[00:27:06] <arti> not exactly breaking news
[00:27:10] <crutchy> that's why i prefer the middle (libertarian) ground
[00:27:21] <arti> middle ground.
[00:27:32] <arti> as if that makes sense 100% of the time
[00:27:39] <crutchy> hmm. true
[00:27:43] <arti> "we need a bridge!" "we don't need a bridge!"
[00:27:48] <arti> "BUILD HALF OF IT!"
[00:28:08] <arti> anyway i understand your sentiment :)
[00:28:20] <arti> we need to have fights to the death, for science.
[00:28:26] <crutchy> i mostly just want my government to stop wasting my taxes on bullshit
[00:28:36] <arti> all votes will be performed by robots, and the robots will fight
[00:28:36] <TLA> I'm not even going there. Disclosure: I am a certified firearms trainer and former rifle range owner, still hunt with rifle.
[00:28:56] <arti> TLA, i don't want to go to chicago either :^)
[00:29:06] <TLA> snap! :p
[00:29:34] <crutchy> if guys wanna hump other guys, smoke pot, carry guns, etc let em have it. as long as it doesn't affect me or my family, and the government doesn't waste my taxes on it
[00:29:47] <Landon> is that a rifle in your waistband or are you just excited to see me?
[00:29:55] <TLA> giggity!
[00:30:14] <arti> how about the stuff they waste taxes on
[00:30:20] <arti> "we need this for roads!"
[00:30:21] <Landon> TLA: now do you endorse owning firearms for practicality or because "the government is coming for them in the future" ?
[00:30:26] <TLA> what, like floodinglighting bridges?
[00:30:57] <arti> landon, do you endorse voting for practicality or because "the government is coming for you in the future" ?
[00:31:02] <TLA> Landon: practicality. Can't peg a rabbit (AKA dinner) at 60 yards with a slingshot, from a concealed position.
[00:31:06] <Landon> arti: because of the stickers
[00:31:14] <arti> like from bushes?
[00:31:18] <TLA> yeah
[00:31:23] <crutchy> i guess there is shit that governments are always gunna waste texes on. some are debatable. some are just stupid though
[00:31:24] <TLA> or tall grass
[00:31:26] <Landon> http://i.kinja-img.com
[00:31:37] <arti> bumper sticker logic is terrible
[00:31:41] <Landon> no sir
[00:31:43] <Landon> that's not a bumper sticker
[00:31:46] <Landon> that's a shirt sticker
[00:31:49] <Landon> show your pride to the whole office
[00:31:49] <arti> like those coexist people
[00:32:02] <arti> "mix incompatible species, it'll work out!"
[00:32:19] <crutchy> i'm saving my vote for someone worth voting for
[00:32:25] <Landon> man :\ 99% about to go through with the breeder and get the puppy, but now we're reading up on some of the fine print in the contract and it's sounding fishy
[00:32:26] <crutchy> i'm still waiting though :/
[00:32:39] <Landon> is it bad I'm still considering getting the puppy despite an extra $1000 amortized over 2 years?
[00:32:59] <crutchy> if ron paul was an aussie and ran in our parliamentary elections i prolly would have voted for him
[00:33:00] <Landon> arti: you just wait until we get the narwhal horses !
[00:33:03] <TLA> you're spending a thousand Dollars on a dog??
[00:33:18] <Landon> TLA: $1000 over _2 years_
[00:33:21] <crutchy> TLA, most pets cost thousands
[00:33:22] * Landon goes to look up amortized, right word?
[00:33:24] <TLA> there no rescue kennels near you?
[00:33:47] <Landon> basically, breeder wants me to keep her on a supplement for 2 years to honor the health warranty
[00:34:53] <crutchy> maybe you should supplement the breeder with a good pounding of your own, assuming she doesn't look like nancy pelosi
[00:35:19] <TLA> sounds like you're paying her for the privilege of looking after one of her mutt's offspring which could at any point jump through a window and run under a bus
[00:36:07] <Landon> TLA: that's exactly what I told my wife when we got our car :O
[00:36:19] <Landon> "what if it jumps out the window and runs under a semi tomorrow"
[00:36:44] <Landon> should have gotten an all american bouncy castle SUV instead :(
[00:36:47] <TLA> I have four cats, feeding them costs oh, lemme think, shy of £60 a year for all of them.
[00:36:57] <TLA> yes, I said a *year*
[00:37:20] <Landon> impressive, I've been going over assorted costs and food would be $600/yr
[00:38:03] <TLA> that'd be about 4kg of food a day. For one animal??
[00:38:11] <TLA> how big is this dog?
[00:38:18] <Landon> going off of 5cups/day for a 100lb dog
[00:38:30] <Landon> ~50kg is probably closer
[00:38:40] <TLA> o.0
[00:39:37] <TLA> so what're we talking here, Burmese Mountain dog? Great Dane?
[00:39:41] <Landon> Newfoundland
[00:39:51] <TLA> that was gonna be my next guess
[00:40:46] <Landon> next dog _probably will_ be a rescue, but for this one we wanted to get a purebred from a breed known to be exceptional with little humans
[00:41:44] <TLA> ^good call :)
[00:43:09] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[00:44:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> good nap, good food, now for a good sit on my butt
[00:50:56] * arti had a few phone calls
[00:51:33] <arti> i've seen plenty of high priced pets
[00:51:56] <arti> animals are awesome :D
[00:52:01] <Landon> yep
[00:52:04] <Landon> my dad is a horse person....
[00:52:07] <Landon> talk about pricy
[00:52:18] <Landon> (working horse person, not crazy horse person)
[00:52:31] <arti> crazy horse = racing?
[00:52:40] <Landon> as in show horses :)
[00:52:44] <crutchy> crazy horse = strip club
[00:52:48] <crutchy> oh
[00:52:49] <arti> also a good indian name
[00:52:57] <arti> !g youtube crazy horse simpsons
[00:52:58] <ciri> 1,680,000 results | Marge Simpson Crazy - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com | Crazy Horse - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com | Iliada W - My crazy horse - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com | Throwback Thursday #1: The Simpsons Arcade - YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com | Horse Racing Gone Crazy -
[00:52:59] <ciri> YouTube @ http://www.youtube.com
[00:53:00] * crutchy is hung like a horse
[00:54:16] <chromas> ...jockey
[00:54:19] -!- JamesNZ [JamesNZ!~james@43-567-441-22.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #Soylent
[00:54:56] <arti> welcome james
[00:55:11] * arti offers individually wrapped ginger candies, from the ginger people
[00:55:13] <JamesNZ> \o arti
[00:55:21] <JamesNZ> Oooo, yummy!
[00:55:37] <TLA> ginger++
[00:55:37] <Bender> karma - ginger: 1
[00:55:41] <TLA> o.0
[00:56:02] <arti> ginger is awesome
[00:56:02] * chromas notes the lack of soul
[00:56:05] * arti consumes lots of it
[00:56:36] <JamesNZ> chromas: I blame the dementors.
[00:58:38] <chromas> racist
[00:58:39] <TLA> I got 33GB of video down to 67MB without changing resolution. Just decimated it to every 50th frame. Wait, that still doesn't make sense. :\
[00:59:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, have some spare: https://www.youtube.com
[00:59:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03Music Explosion - Little Bit O' Soul [High Quality] [1964] - YouTube
[00:59:16] * chromas isn't ginger
[00:59:22] <Landon> TLA: every 50th... it's not much of a video is it now? more of a timelapse :P
[01:00:04] <TLA> uh... yesh, stuff doesn't move very fast in a solar eclipse unless you do timelapse. :)
[01:00:20] <arti> or weight loss
[01:00:36] <TLA> well, I say "fast", the shadow's doing over 2,000mph...
[01:02:16] <TLA> but I thought rather than upload a two hour 15 minute video to youtube which would've taken all year, condense it to four minutes and fire it up with a nice soundtrack
[01:02:26] * crutchy hereby welcomes our new shadow overlords
[01:03:38] * JamesNZ shakes a lightbulb at the shadows
[01:04:14] <TLA> anyone on the Pacific half of the planet on April 4?
[01:04:43] * TLA isn't going to see the Lunar eclipse, which is a shame 'cos it's a blood moon.
[01:04:48] <crutchy> here in straya we been paddling away from it but the pacific keeps following us
[01:05:45] <TLA> damnably persistent ocean, eh? Dontcha wish that global warming thing'd hurry up?
[01:05:50] <JamesNZ> In Soviet Russia, the moon bloods YOU.
[01:06:38] <TLA> need to add an !ISR scriptlet
[01:06:44] <TLA> >:]
[01:06:54] <crutchy> !ISR?
[01:07:13] <chromas> In Soviet Russia, joke not funny
[01:07:14] <crutchy> ah in soviet russia :p
[01:07:22] <arti> slow crutchy is slow :P
[01:07:32] <JamesNZ> In Soviet Russia, the scriptlet adds YOU :P
[01:07:35] <TLA> yup, so you go !ISR blood moon, the script takes the two words reverses them and adds an "S" to the (now) first word.
[01:08:05] <TLA> ^~and "you" to the end
[01:08:27] <crutchy> ~x open isr
[01:08:30] <TLA> or... yeah. Someone'll figure it out.
[01:08:48] <crutchy> ~rehash
[01:08:56] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (132 aliases)
[01:09:00] <crutchy> ~x open isr
[01:09:22] <crutchy> need to rtfsc :/
[01:09:36] <chromas> reading's for suckers
[01:10:00] <TLA> so "!isr 1 2" outputs "In Soviet Russia, 2 1s YOU!"
[01:11:03] <chromas> TLA: s/(output)s.*(YOU)/In Russia, \2\1/
[01:11:03] <sedctl> <chromas> <TLA> so "!isr 1 2" In Russia, YOUoutput!"
[01:11:19] <chromas> who knew sentences needed spaces?
[01:13:35] <arti> space, for the space god.
[01:17:02] <crutchy> !isr space chromas
[01:17:03] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, chromas spaces YOU!
[01:17:55] <JamesNZ> \o/
[01:18:04] <chromas> and then after several jokes, it does a monologue about how great america is and has freedoms russia don't
[01:18:49] <crutchy> or an offensive fortune :p
[01:18:57] <crutchy> ~openthepodbaydoors
[01:18:57] <exec> I don't care what star you're following, get that camel off my front lawn!
[01:18:58] <exec> -- Heard in Bethlehem
[01:18:58] <NetCraft> Karma - : -1
[01:19:23] <chromas> that doesn't sound like him
[01:30:02] <TLA> !isr belt Homer_Simpson
[01:30:03] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, Homer_Simpson belts YOU!
[01:30:16] <TLA> wow ouch :o
[01:30:56] <TLA> code_gods++
[01:30:56] <Bender> karma - code_gods: 1
[01:31:43] <crutchy> don't need the _ for the second
[01:31:51] <crutchy> !ISR belt Homer Simpson
[01:31:51] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, Homer Simpson belts YOU!
[01:32:06] <crutchy> only the first can't have spaces
[01:32:28] <crutchy> !isr butt
[01:32:28] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, error causes YOU!
[01:32:28] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, butts YOU!
[01:32:38] <crutchy> derp. need a return in there
[01:33:10] <crutchy> !isr derp
[01:33:10] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, error causes YOU!
[01:33:11] <chromas> injured_tsa_Agents++
[01:33:11] <Bender> karma - injured_tsa_agents: 1
[01:33:48] <crutchy> if enough of them get injured, maybe the rest of them will strike
[01:34:00] <TLA> or go back to being mall cops?
[01:34:23] <TLA> !isr noogie Paul_Blart
[01:34:23] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, Paul_Blart noogies YOU!
[01:34:30] <TLA> o.0
[01:35:31] <crutchy> !isr vibrating rooster sammich
[01:35:31] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, rooster sammich vibratings YOU!
[01:36:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> conjugation not ftw
[01:36:17] <TLA> ok so one word verb, it just moves that and adds the S. Good stuff :)
[01:36:31] <crutchy> hmm
[01:38:18] <TLA> !isr play Quake III
[01:38:19] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, Quake III plays YOU!
[01:38:42] <TLA> evil, nice, I like.
[01:39:03] <crutchy> !isr vibrating rooster sammich
[01:39:04] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, rooster sammich vibrates YOU!
[01:39:42] <crutchy> just does a plain ol replace ing with e so could be tricked pretty easily
[01:39:50] <crutchy> enrish--
[01:39:50] <Bender> karma - enrish: -1
[01:40:32] <paulej72> hello everyone
[01:40:45] <crutchy> ~g'day paulej72
[01:40:47] * exec diabolically poops a spoon of boogers for paulej72
[01:41:24] -!- TLA has quit [Quit: Web client closed]
[01:41:26] <crutchy> ~link poop 💩
[01:41:28] <exec> └─ poop => 💩
[01:42:00] <crutchy> ~link wtf wat¿
[01:42:02] <exec> └─ wtf => wat¿
[01:43:46] -!- TLA [TLA!~52027da6@bzd3-bxxi33-7-6-smos942.64-6.cable.virginm.net] has joined #Soylent
[01:43:50] <arti> !isr vote transjenner
[01:43:50] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, transjenner votes YOU!
[01:44:07] <TLA> ok that was odd
[01:44:20] <TLA> my desktop imploded
[01:44:56] <arti> that's how they do it
[01:45:52] <TLA> !isr reboot Windows POS
[01:45:53] <exec> 04In Soviet Russia, Windows POS reboots YOU!
[01:45:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Find Alcoholics Anonymous Wanting. Suggest Other, Better Treatments - http://sylnt.us - Applied-Efficacy-
[01:46:09] <TLA> ::snicker::
[01:46:41] <TLA> AA wanting... alcohol?
[01:47:50] <arti> :U~
[01:47:51] <crutchy> hmm
[01:47:59] <arti> my rum consumption is up
[01:48:05] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[01:48:32] <crutchy> apparently "Einleitung, oder Sonnenaufgang" and "goatse" together in a google search is not normal
[01:49:00] <TLA> wait, what?
[01:50:51] <arti> brought to you by forschung und schlecht
[01:53:21] <crutchy> TLA, s/h//
[01:53:21] <sedctl> <crutchy> <TLA> wait, wat?
[02:02:13] <paulej72> was afk. had to shave. my wiskers were becomming too annoying
[02:03:41] <crutchy> i can go a week tops without shaving
[02:03:52] <crutchy> any longer than that and i get itchy
[02:04:01] <arti> then you start looking like bigfoot
[02:04:11] <arti> crutchbacca
[02:04:18] <crutchy> !grab arti
[02:04:18] <Bender> Added quote 425
[02:04:28] <TLA> I'd have to shave twice a day if I didn't opt for a Van Dijk instead
[02:04:56] <arti> since mine is patchy I'm clean shaven
[02:05:03] <arti> babyface++
[02:05:03] <Bender> karma - babyface: 1
[02:05:30] <paulej72> yeah I was over the week mark.
[02:05:46] <TLA> on a good day I look like Ming The Merciless
[02:05:55] <TLA> on a bad day I look like Shrek.
[02:05:56] <arti> you should do the colonel sanders
[02:06:19] <crutchy> gotta love how a linux vm (even with gnome) is about 6gb, but a win7 vm is 30+ gb
[02:06:43] <arti> it's all that extra hardware support and libraries for all the softwares :D
[02:06:48] <chromas> yeah but linux comes with a bunch of software so of course it's gonne be different
[02:07:30] <paulej72> my beard is red, so it blends in with my face. shaving makes my skin burn so I don’t shave more than every other day, but lately its been weekly with just a minor trim of some stay hairs mid week
[02:07:48] <arti> your default pirate name is Red Beard
[02:08:12] <paulej72> nope I am Viking, Eric the Red
[02:08:21] <arti> Yaarrrrr, shiver me colon and blow my load, there be treasure in that $gender's $orifice
[02:08:39] <arti> prob should dial it down in here
[02:08:43] <arti> :D
[02:08:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait wut? talking beards and nobody pinged me?
[02:09:05] <TLA> you should try a Nivea Coolskin shaver, it's the only one I can actually use apart from the insanely expensive Gillette wet system (I have very sensitive skin, can't use cheap blades at all)
[02:09:15] <paulej72> not our fault you do not have that set as a key word TheMightyBuzzard
[02:09:17] <arti> do you use lotion?
[02:09:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[02:09:41] * arti can dry shave with no irritation
[02:10:09] <arti> i can also make cupcakes in the microwave
[02:10:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't have heard a ping anyway. got the 1977 The Runaways japan concert playing loud
[02:10:18] <crutchy> paulej72, you just need a 50 blade razor
[02:10:25] <arti> lol
[02:10:25] <ciri> now that is funny
[02:10:31] <paulej72> my beard also does not lay in a nice pattern, so shaving in one direction never removes it all
[02:10:45] <arti> Crutchy's Omega Blade. It is infinite. It is eternal.
[02:11:01] <chromas> the shaving never stops
[02:11:05] <crutchy> 5 blades works pretty well
[02:11:10] <chromas> Bender: grab arti
[02:11:10] <Bender> Added quote 426
[02:11:20] <crutchy> not sure if there are ones with more than that
[02:11:39] <arti> sounds like we need to make a webgl product builder
[02:11:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, try shaving with cold water. counterintuitive but it used to work for me and my shit gets tore up by razors.
[02:12:11] <paulej72> one of Heinline’s stories had a character that had all his hair removed permantenly (except his eyebrows and eyelashes). I always wanted that.
[02:12:12] <arti> see what kinds of things are developed, like a lego kit thing. earlier today i went into the lego store at the mall (malls are like amazon but with far less selection, but you can see the other users)
[02:12:29] <crutchy> http://tiedyedbrainrays.typepad.com
[02:12:32] <cmn32480> Gilette has one with 6 blades. tehy sen me the handle for free, then I looked at the cost of the blades and giggled uncontrolably
[02:12:34] <arti> they have so many kits out for things. Saw a ghostbusters one, the "new" bat mobile
[02:12:50] <arti> check out http://dollarshaveclub.com
[02:12:51] <NetCraft> ^ 03Dollar Shave Club - Shave Time. Shave Money. ( http://www.dollarshaveclub.com )
[02:13:14] <paulej72> cmn32480: That is what I use, it is actually 5 +1, as there is one on the reverse for close in trim.
[02:13:36] <arti> why not just have a slave pick out your hairs?
[02:13:59] <cmn32480> I've had my goatee since I was about 15. Shaved it off a half dozen times in the last 20 years.
[02:14:11] <arti> speaking of which, our slave stock is running low. if i am elected jarl, i will increase raids and see that our stock is replenished. also, wine.
[02:14:13] <TLA> you'd be in real trouble if you got burn from a dry shave, the cutting blades in those things never actually touch the skin
[02:14:18] <cmn32480> My wife has seen em without it 3 times, my kids have never seen me without a beard.
[02:14:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://upload.wikimedia.org ftw
[02:14:29] <paulej72> Since i do not shave often, my blades last a long time
[02:14:49] <arti> paule, just level your blacksmithing by repairing your own blades.
[02:15:01] <crutchy> tmb, looks like something that fell off the ISS
[02:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> one double edged blade that costs like a freakin dime.
[02:15:33] <arti> far too expensive, next.
[02:15:51] <TLA> my Dijk gets a trimback once a week, the stubble once or twice a week (the Coolskin copes fine), if I'm off out on a special like a wedding, out comes the Gillettes and things get really smooth.
[02:16:08] <arti> how about this? http://www.qdsander.com
[02:16:08] <ciri> how how brown cow
[02:16:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd have to peel your face off first. too much bother.
[02:16:52] <arti> it should come off for cleaning anyhow
[02:17:05] <crutchy> http://36.media.tumblr.com
[02:17:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[02:17:13] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: one pass and your face is flat enough that subsequent passes are a breeze
[02:17:44] <cmn32480> all the white crap in the belt is skin....
[02:17:55] <TLA> :)
[02:18:06] <crutchy> unless the guy was shaving his ball sack
[02:18:11] <arti> also, for cleaning pores: http://www.globaltelematics.com
[02:18:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima get a picture and remove the epic beard after we get done moving next week.
[02:18:41] * chromas will digitally composite it back on
[02:18:42] <TLA> if it comes to it, http://cdn.husqvarna.com
[02:18:50] <cmn32480> ow. just ow
[02:18:58] <chromas> that's for her
[02:19:09] <chromas> hers and his
[02:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i'll just mail it for you and you can pose it in front of whatever picture you like.
[02:20:11] <chromas> I'll put it on ef's full frontal selfie
[02:20:23] <chromas> one in the hand, two in the bush
[02:20:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> no beard for joo then
[02:20:38] <arti> sounds very aussie
[02:20:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ef can grow his own sack hair
[02:20:59] <arti> :(
[02:21:56] <cmn32480> and on that note... I think I'm gonna call it a night. My kid wore me out playing video games
[02:22:05] <arti> noice, which?
[02:22:54] <paulej72> I went to the zoo with my nephew and parents. Wore me out
[02:22:59] <paulej72> had to nap
[02:23:00] <TLA> oh I so need one of these: http://www.abbeypowertools.co.uk not necessarily for facial hair removal. I do quite a bit of woodcraft and it's difficult to get a flat surface with a wood chisel.
[02:23:14] <cmn32480> Go ahead and giggle... it was Skylanders Trap Team on the Wii
[02:23:44] * arti is unfamiliar with it
[02:23:46] <cmn32480> He's 6 and can't do PC games yet.
[02:23:59] <arti> plenty of fun entertainment out there
[02:24:24] * arti mostly plays card games
[02:24:41] <cmn32480> comes with a pad that you can change out characters but the interface is built for kids who don't really have great hand eye coordination yet
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[02:25:13] <cmn32480> the pad plugs into the USB port on the back of the Wii
[02:25:46] <paulej72> can get quite expensive playing that game
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[02:26:07] <cmn32480> It is pretty cool, but going at it for a few hours at 6 year old pace isn't easy
[02:26:46] <cmn32480> I haven't really been into games in a number of years
[02:27:21] <paulej72> my hand eye corrdination makes a 6 year lod look like a god
[02:27:22] <Ethanol-fueled> What game, pauley?
[02:27:50] <paulej72> cmn32480: Go ahead and giggle... it was Skylanders Trap Team on the Wii
[02:27:51] <cmn32480> my oldest and I were playing Skylanders Trap Team
[02:28:12] <Ethanol-fueled> The Wii would have been way awesome if it had adult games.
[02:28:22] <Ethanol-fueled> But Nintendo -- Good luck with that.
[02:28:31] <Ethanol-fueled> They could have had Super Mario Fisting Brothers
[02:28:35] <paulej72> I am not a gamer, I am a game watcher, and even that gives me motion sickness
[02:28:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Or a game where you could be a Cop and beat innocent bystanders.
[02:29:09] <cmn32480> Ethanol-Fueled: That is precisely the problem. At some going I am going to have t move the kids to an XBox or Playstation
[02:29:20] <cmn32480> but I have a few years still before that happens
[02:30:15] <cmn32480> I'm pretty sure they never released Grand Theft Auto for the Wii.
[02:30:33] <cmn32480> though supposedly, the Wii U has adult games. Probably too late
[02:31:46] <arti> yeah, been awhile since i've kept up with nintendo
[02:31:54] <Ethanol-fueled> sup arti, long time no see.
[02:32:27] <arti> greetings
[02:32:33] <arti> been mingling.
[02:32:51] <arti> spreading the word, labia.
[02:35:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Heheh
[02:35:43] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm receiving a visit from a Jewess soon.
[02:35:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I hope she wears the Star Wars dress.
[02:36:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> all booty calls should
[02:36:24] <arti> :|
[02:36:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Amen, Buzzard. And hello, by the way.
[02:37:21] <cmn32480> Good night gentlemen. And I do use the term loosely.
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[02:38:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i skeert him off
[02:38:20] <arti> lol
[02:38:21] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[03:04:47] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, you scare everyone - must be the filleting knife
[03:05:31] <paulej72> and the hockey mask
[03:05:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> it better be, thing's 10" long n razor sharp
[03:06:43] <paulej72> doesn't she complain
[03:06:48] <juggs> it's not the knife, it's the look in the eye that counts
[03:07:08] <paulej72> all sharp and pointy
[03:07:58] <juggs> You need Spalls for the scary bunny quotes :D
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[03:09:28] <crutchy> ~gday juggs
[03:09:29] * exec cohesively postulates a toilet bowl of glowballs towards juggs
[03:10:10] <crutchy> ~random nick=juggs
[03:10:15] <exec> 03[2014-08-24 04:00:49.678] #Soylent <juggs> as long as they handle dependency conflicts robustly I'm happy. Things have come a long way where we can now say "it's ~only~ package management, use whatever" :D
[03:10:29] <crutchy> ~random nick=juggs message=butt
[03:10:33] <exec> 03[2015-01-22 04:25:56.232] #Soylent <juggs> lol reminds me of mortal kombat... "FINISH HIM"... uhhhhhh, what's the combo for this dude again... mash, mash buttons, mash some more, maybe one in 50 times the dude would do some ridiculous move and rip the spine out of the opponent or slice them in half. I guess I never got into the detail :)
[03:10:58] <juggs> o.O
[03:11:18] <crutchy> all your chat are belong to us!
[03:11:23] <juggs> I would never say such things, it's all fabricated
[03:11:31] <crutchy> ~random nick=juggs message=lesbian
[03:11:35] <exec> 03[2014-11-30 03:24:28.713] #Soylent <juggs> all lesbians hate men too
[03:11:50] <juggs> Now if you will excuse me, I have something to do.
[03:12:21] <crutchy> ciao for now o/
[03:13:21] * crutchy plays some weird japanese anime themes while he tries to figure out what best way to set up a wiki server vm
[03:17:46] <paulej72> sudo make wiki vm
[03:22:06] <crutchy> just gunna copy a vdi from a similar vm methinks
[03:34:06] <crutchy> seems to have worked after a sethduuid call with vboxmanage
[03:34:41] <crutchy> prolly should have cloned, but meh
[03:43:31] <TLA> easiest way I've found is to chuck xp in a vm and use Bitnami
[03:44:14] <TLA> it sets the WAMP stack up for you
[03:44:33] <chromas> xp
[03:44:35] <chromas> you're scaring me
[03:44:46] <chromas> s/(r)/\1\1/
[03:44:46] <sedctl> <chromas> you'rre scaring me
[03:44:53] <chromas> s/(r)/\1\1/2
[03:44:53] <sedctl> <chromas> you're scarring me
[03:45:20] <TLA> scary is that I have a WAMP stack running a wiki on a Dell CP with 64MB of RAM.
[03:45:45] <chromas> poor db server
[03:46:29] <crutchy> i gave my wiki server 512mb at least :p
[03:46:37] <TLA> I was just seeing how light I could actually run it
[03:46:59] * chromas wonders if there's a vm system with dynamix memory allocation
[03:47:32] <crutchy> vbox seems to manage that pretty well
[03:47:38] <TLA> Virtualbox does an OK job with manual RAM adjustment
[03:47:54] <crutchy> we have 4 vms running at same time with overlapping memory allocation
[03:47:57] <chromas> does it work while the vm's running?
[03:48:09] <TLA> only found OSX to puke if you fiddled with RAM settings
[03:48:15] <TLA> nope, has to be off
[03:48:16] <crutchy> the engineering app has the maximum ram allocated to it
[03:48:29] <crutchy> the other vms have 1 or 2 gb
[03:48:36] <crutchy> max is 12gb
[03:49:19] <TLA> I have 8GB, max here in a VM is 3. My computer's weird. It's one of those APU jobs.
[03:50:22] <TLA> I never use 3 tho, my prod wiki runs on 2GB
[03:53:30] <crutchy> i think the box i'm using at work is a dell precision t5500 or something close to that
[03:53:39] <crutchy> dual xeon
[03:53:43] <crutchy> its a beast :)
[03:54:43] <crutchy> for little linux vms my lappy works ok too though. the engineering server gobbles up heaps of resources. prolly due to my shoddy programming
[03:55:49] <mrcoolbp> TLA: how are you
[03:55:55] <TLA> I built a gaming machine out of a T5500, man that was fun... 1200fps on UT2003!
[03:56:42] <crutchy> lol
[03:56:43] <TLA> hi mr, having a chillax over the weekend, friday and yesterday was hectic
[03:56:43] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[03:56:46] <crutchy> ut2003++
[03:56:46] <Bender> karma - ut2003: 1
[03:57:08] <mrcoolbp> TLA: sorry to spam you with emails sir.
[03:57:11] <Subsentient> http://imgur.com
[03:57:11] <NetCraft> ^ 03Interesting... - Imgur
[03:57:40] <mrcoolbp> TLA: chillaxing is important, one must take time for such things
[03:58:05] <crutchy> ~link science
[03:58:07] <exec> └─ "science" not found
[03:58:11] <crutchy> !
[03:58:16] <crutchy> ~link asdf
[03:58:17] <TLA> I got the emails, I'll hit the dev service just as soon as I've got my head back together
[03:58:17] <exec> ├─ asdf/piano => https://www.youtube.com
[03:58:18] <exec> ├─ asdf/rainbows => https://www.youtube.com
[03:58:18] <exec> ├─ asdf/skateboards => https://www.youtube.com
[03:58:19] <exec> └─ asdf/turtle => https://www.youtube.com
[03:58:22] <TLA> :)
[03:58:48] <mrcoolbp> TLA: no worries, let me know if you need anything
[03:58:57] <TLA> (and when I find somewhere to archive 60GB of footage...)
[04:00:54] <mrcoolbp> TLA: There are a bunch of submissions on dev server, feel free to play around, ask questions to the guys in #editorial (or email me or whatever). Once you get the hang of "the ropes", the next step is to prepare 2-3 stories as if they were to go out on our main page, then let LaminatorX now (I can do this for you). He has final approval on all editors.
[04:01:20] <TLA> k
[04:01:34] <crutchy> TLA, archive it on youtube :D
[04:02:06] <TLA> ha! I dunno if my ISP would appreciate that kid of bandwidth abuse... o.0
[04:02:30] <TLA> *kind
[04:02:44] <crutchy> 60gb? must be comcast
[04:02:52] <TLA> my keyboard's missing strikes, think i need a new one
[04:03:03] <crutchy> talk dirty to it
[04:03:04] <TLA> Virgin Media
[04:03:34] <TLA> SORRY! Sorry. That was just too far beyond PG-13, wasn't it?
[04:04:04] <crutchy> pg13? someone forgot to tell ethanol-fueled that
[04:04:56] <TLA> you might want to edit that out of the log, the FCC might see it and shitcan the channel. :x
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[04:06:09] <TLA> https://www.youtube.com
[04:06:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Family Guy - The Freaking FCC - YouTube
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[04:48:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World Water Day - http://sylnt.us - another-splash-hit
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[05:16:52] <Subsentient> http://imgur.com
[05:16:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03Lame joke - Imgur
[05:30:35] <crutchy> http://imgur.com
[05:30:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03That's right... you just keep on playing. Biden's here. - Imgur
[05:30:59] <crutchy> lol http://theuniversalspectator.files.wordpress.com
[05:30:59] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[05:41:10] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[05:41:11] <NetCraft> ^ 03Funny Cats Saying Hello Compilation 2014 [NEW] - YouTube
[05:41:23] <crutchy> yes... it has deteriorated to this
[05:42:15] <arti> this is what the internet is for
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[06:29:41] <crutchy> i don't consider myself a religious guy (i have nfi what god is) but this was really interesting: https://www.youtube.com
[06:29:42] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Ultimate Proof of Creation - Dr. Jason Lisle - YouTube
[06:34:29] <chromas> looooong
[07:15:08] <SirFinkus> what's the tl;dw
[07:16:11] <chromas> I dunno; I gave up
[07:16:25] <chromas> so I'll just paste a comment
[07:16:28] <chromas> At first I kinda was liking this guy..."I have presuppositions, you have presuppositions" so we kinda see things different...OK, I'm on board...by 25:00 this decays to the usual "the universe: therefore god." Um no, wait...what? SAYING your presuppositions are right and mine are wrong isn't really saying anything at all. It merely restates that you have suppositions. Finding flaw in "science" isn't actually proof of the bible, does anyone see that? C-14 and
[07:16:28] <chromas> "oort clouds", whatever....these are not PROOF of god, but wonderful new questions to figure out...and here is where religion will ALWAYS fail in gaining "knowledge", they already know it all, the bible has all the answers, right? There is no REASON to go look into comet decay, to build a model and test that model and holy fuck maybe learn something new about the universe. This is the basic problem: simply because there is currently something I don't know and can't
[07:16:28] <chromas> debate from an informed perspective, is not proof "god did it." Period. I'm still waiting for the "killer" proof to change my "world view"....OK...still watching 31:35 biblical view leads to knowledge....but the only POSSIBLE knowledge available to a biblical view...is, um, well...in the bible...ahhhh I see the "killer" proof now: "I'm right, you're wrong, and my one book says so, the book says it's true therefore it must be true." Well fuck me I'm convinced
[07:16:28] <chromas> for sure now. To HELL with asking the question of comets or anything, "god did it", all problems solved. Now if god would only tell me the winning lottery numbers, I'd be set for life....
[07:16:34] <chromas> oh, that was kinda long
[07:16:39] <SirFinkus> if it's an uncaused caused thing, fuck it
[07:17:20] <SirFinkus> seems to be the usual approach
[07:17:55] <Subsentient> http://explosm.net
[07:17:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03Explosm.net - Home of Cyanide and Happiness
[07:18:39] <chromas> still smiling at the end
[07:19:55] <SirFinkus> 5 minutes in and this guy seems full of shit
[07:20:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Now You Can Put Your Keys in the Cloud—Your House Keys - http://sylnt.us - what-could-go-wrong?
[07:20:41] <SirFinkus> some stupid shit about "information requiring an intelligence" which seems like a false premise
[07:21:51] <crutchy> i think the tl;dw of the video is that the prerequisite for knowledge is a worldview, and that secularists necessarily 'borrow' the worldview of christianity to make a case against it
[07:22:25] <crutchy> i'm not converted to christianity, but it certainly makes me question the presumptions of science
[07:22:45] <chromas> I thought science did that
[07:22:53] <crutchy> did what?
[07:22:54] <chromas> question everything
[07:23:01] <crutchy> from what basis though?
[07:23:29] <SirFinkus> I'll watch this shit all the way through, but so far I've seen these arguments before
[07:24:21] <crutchy> i've seen a lot of arguments about religion being illogical, but he makes some good points about logic itself requiring some basis in a belief system
[07:24:48] <chromas> the religion doesn't automatically have to be christianity
[07:24:57] <crutchy> logic has no place in an evolutionary system
[07:25:09] <crutchy> chromas, true. that's where he didn't convince me
[07:25:10] <SirFinkus> well, he's saying evolution is bullshit, which it simply isnt
[07:25:13] <chromas> unless illogica stuff failed
[07:25:26] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i don't think he is saying that
[07:25:39] <SirFinkus> certainly seems so
[07:25:45] <crutchy> he's saying evolutionary creation is bullshit
[07:25:59] <crutchy> not that evolution can't exist at all
[07:26:44] <crutchy> he's making an argument that humans started from random chemical reactions
[07:26:53] <crutchy> *against
[07:27:12] <crutchy> i'm not saying he's right btw
[07:27:22] <crutchy> just that its an interesting perspective
[07:28:50] <SirFinkus> well, the difference between scientists and creationists is that scientists will admit that that they don't know exactly how life began, while creationists will state with absolute certainty with no evidence
[07:29:18] <SirFinkus> it's still a "god of the gaps" theory
[07:29:30] <SirFinkus> granted, I haven't watched his entire video yet
[07:29:42] <SirFinkus> but I've watched dozens of these debates before
[07:29:49] <crutchy> he talks about that too. calls them 'rescue devices', and he admits that both sides use them
[07:31:01] <crutchy> i think the worldview presupposition makes a lot of sense; everyone looks at evidence through their own preconcieved notions
[07:31:18] <crutchy> (he talks about these like pairs of glasses)
[07:32:01] <crutchy> the evidence is the same for everyone. what's different is the interpretation of the evidence
[07:35:14] <crutchy> to be upfront i'm neither a believer or denier of the supernatural
[07:35:39] <crutchy> i wouldn't be so arrogant to assume i know as much
[07:36:43] <crutchy> even fairies and magic etc. i've never observed it, but i can't rule it out
[07:37:21] <SirFinkus> I'm still listening, but he's putting the bible on the same level as observation and reproduction of experimental evidence
[07:37:30] <SirFinkus> as a "worldview"
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[07:38:04] <crutchy> worldviews have nothing to do with observation or evidence. they are by definition subjective
[07:38:09] <SirFinkus> he's making a claim that a text is "true" with no evidence to support it
[07:38:23] <crutchy> he believes it to be true, yeah
[07:38:37] <crutchy> on the basis of his worldview
[07:38:44] <SirFinkus> but why is the bible trustworthy?
[07:38:53] <SirFinkus> because he feels it is?
[07:39:09] <chromas> it touches him at night
[07:39:22] <crutchy> he's arguing that its no less trustworthy than a physics textbook. the information originates from a mind
[07:39:44] <SirFinkus> but I can verify the textbook
[07:39:46] * Ethanol-fueled likes Exekiel 23:20
[07:39:52] <Ethanol-fueled> ezekiel^
[07:39:59] <crutchy> SirFinkus, you believe you can verify a textbook
[07:40:16] <crutchy> based on your worldview
[07:40:28] <SirFinkus> yes, because I can see sediment layers and see how creatures evolved
[07:40:34] <chromas> "For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh [is as] the flesh of asses, and whose issue [is like] the issue of horses."
[07:40:46] <crutchy> really? you can 'see' evolution?
[07:40:46] <SirFinkus> I can see how certain elements decay and date where the layers all
[07:40:49] <SirFinkus> are
[07:40:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Ezekiel 23:20: "There she[Jezebel] lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."
[07:40:52] <SirFinkus> absolutely
[07:41:11] <crutchy> what you see as evolution is merely your interpretation of a geological record
[07:41:39] <Ethanol-fueled> How could you argue against that? It's scientific fact.
[07:41:40] <ciri> doing great here
[07:41:40] <crutchy> or more precisely an interpretation that you have been taught
[07:42:11] <SirFinkus> I was "taught" creationism, but then I did more research and discovered it was bullshit
[07:42:44] <Ethanol-fueled> And here is a nice infographic showing the types of biblical marriage -> http://thumbnails-visually.netdna-ssl.com
[07:42:47] <crutchy> you still believed what others have wrote
[07:42:52] <crutchy> its no different
[07:43:27] <SirFinkus> I've been to museums and seen fossils, that was most of my childhood
[07:43:45] <crutchy> but to be honest i'm comfortable with the idea that the earth is billions of years old, but i accept that i can't prove it
[07:44:04] <crutchy> museums are fun
[07:44:31] <SirFinkus> I mean, you could do the whole "we live in the matrix" thing and everything is an illusion, but there is no evidence to support that
[07:44:49] <crutchy> certainly. it all depends on your worldview
[07:45:01] <crutchy> he points out that being close to a hindu thing
[07:45:32] <crutchy> but at least hindus have a worldview
[07:45:40] <crutchy> what is the worldview of science?
[07:45:55] <SirFinkus> reproducibility
[07:46:03] <crutchy> what does that mean?
[07:46:18] <crutchy> you can't reproduce the big bang
[07:47:02] <crutchy> i think science has borrowed aspects from various worldviews
[07:47:20] <crutchy> which is what i thought was interesting about this video
[07:47:42] <crutchy> it makes more sense than science's claim of being neutral and objective
[07:47:53] <crutchy> there is no such thing
[07:48:20] <crutchy> all humans are biased
[07:48:32] <SirFinkus> we can't reproduce the big bang, but scientists don't really claim it to be a fact
[07:48:37] <chromas> that's your worldview, crutchy :D
[07:48:46] <crutchy> haha. chromas you are right on
[07:49:05] * chromas notes that the big bang is still considered theory
[07:49:06] <SirFinkus> instantly falsifiable if someone presents evidence that it didn't occur
[07:49:16] <SirFinkus> just like evolution
[07:49:57] <crutchy> why push a 'big bang' theory as a means to disprove creationism if you don't yourself believe in it though?
[07:50:03] * chromas also notes that us moneys made in the last few years look fake
[07:50:16] <SirFinkus> it's the best model we have that explains the universe
[07:50:36] <crutchy> so you do believe in it?
[07:51:21] <crutchy> or, you think it makes sense at least?
[07:51:38] <SirFinkus> the word "believe" carries all kinds of connotations, I haven't studied it thoroughly
[07:51:49] <crutchy> yeah sorry i didn't mean to say that
[07:52:09] <crutchy> that's why i like words like 'comfortable with an idea'
[07:52:39] <SirFinkus> So as far as the big bang goes, we have people who have made observations about the universe
[07:53:00] <SirFinkus> and can make predictions about what will happen in the future based on those observations
[07:53:06] <crutchy> true
[07:53:20] <SirFinkus> and they're generally accurate, and if they're wrong, they'll admit it and revise their theories
[07:53:37] <crutchy> i don't think the idea of supernatural interference precludes that though
[07:53:58] <SirFinkus> but there is no evidence of that whatsoever
[07:54:12] <crutchy> well, that you or i know of
[07:54:19] <SirFinkus> and could be used to justify literally any theory
[07:54:38] <crutchy> it could
[07:55:01] <crutchy> but it generally isnt
[07:55:27] <crutchy> creationists don't tend to change their theory in any given week
[07:55:37] <SirFinkus> so he's arguing for a theory (god controls everything) for which there is absolutely no evidence aside from a book
[07:56:14] <crutchy> atheists also only have their own interpretation of the evidence
[07:56:23] <SirFinkus> how does his theory have any more validity than anything I make up right now?
[07:56:23] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[07:56:46] <crutchy> he understands his worldview
[07:56:56] <crutchy> that is something i'll grant that science is shaky on
[07:57:26] <crutchy> scientists don't look through the same set of glasses
[07:57:27] <Ethanol-fueled> humans = monkeys. Some are more monkey than others, though.
[07:57:43] <crutchy> so there will naturally be inconsistent bases for scientific discovery
[07:58:10] <SirFinkus> so he understands that he believes unflinchingly in a book translated and edited dozens of times hundreds/thousands of years after the events that took place in it?
[07:58:20] <crutchy> yup
[07:58:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Classic_Shell++
[07:58:27] <Bender> karma - classic_shell: 1
[07:58:34] <chromas> classic_shell++
[07:58:34] <Bender> karma - classic_shell: 2
[07:58:39] <crutchy> that's why i don't buy into christianity
[07:58:53] <crutchy> or any religion
[07:59:04] <crutchy> they're all subject to interpretation
[07:59:17] * chromas notes that christians also have their own 'sets of glasses'; hence 45,000 different sects
[07:59:21] <SirFinkus> and that has the same validity as theories that accurately predict future events and conform the history?
[07:59:43] <crutchy> i'm not sure what you mean
[07:59:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck your science, I just choose not to believe in religion because it doesn't make sense to me.
[07:59:59] <crutchy> who accurately predicts the future?
[08:00:07] <Ethanol-fueled> If it makes sense to you, all the power to you.
[08:00:07] <crutchy> i'd like to buy them a beer :p
[08:00:19] <SirFinkus> well, physics in general
[08:00:24] <SirFinkus> we know the speed of light
[08:00:30] <SirFinkus> we observe stars
[08:00:33] <crutchy> physics predicts behaviour
[08:00:45] <Ethanol-fueled> You cannot perform an experiment that proves the existence of a diety.
[08:00:46] * chromas wonders if the eclipse really did happen as predicted
[08:00:58] <SirFinkus> and can determine how long ago events happened, and how far away those stars are
[08:01:03] <Ethanol-fueled> That's why religion is FAITH.
[08:01:05] <crutchy> the predictions made by physics are merely extrapolations
[08:01:17] <Ethanol-fueled> By its own admission it is FAITH.
[08:01:34] <crutchy> we (including me, as an engineer) assume that gravity will behave consistently because we have observed it in the past
[08:01:55] <SirFinkus> therefore, you can prove many of the core parts of the bible incorrect by virtue of simple observation
[08:02:06] <crutchy> possibly
[08:02:14] <chromas> except for the part about jews stealing land and rabble rousing
[08:02:14] <crutchy> but that is merely an interpretation
[08:02:25] <SirFinkus> all you need is one example
[08:02:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't know, finkus...there are SOME men with the flesh like that of donkeys and emissions like those of horses. Mandingo, Lexington Steele, Peter North, John Holmes
[08:03:30] <crutchy> SirFinkus, how you interpret the bible is obviously different to how christians do, but i would assume your interpretation to be as biased as theirs
[08:03:39] <SirFinkus> I also find it interesting that they always through these "laws of morality" into the debate, as if they're some kind of universal truth
[08:04:18] <crutchy> i buy into maslows hierarchy and human nature (seven sins etc)
[08:04:41] <SirFinkus> it's different, but that doesn't mean it's incorrect, I see it as just another work of fiction with little reason to believe it is factual
[08:05:00] <crutchy> i guess that's why a worldview is important
[08:05:13] <chromas> crutchy: do an image search for seven sins
[08:05:17] <chromas> with safesearch off
[08:05:20] <crutchy> lol
[08:05:26] <crutchy> bewbs?
[08:05:33] <SirFinkus> morality pretty clearly isn't absolute, or we'd be executing people who build collapsing houses
[08:06:08] <crutchy> morality clearly has a basis in religion
[08:06:15] <SirFinkus> oh?
[08:06:50] <crutchy> do you believe in the right to kill someone in self defence?
[08:06:59] <crutchy> kill or be killed?
[08:07:27] <SirFinkus> absolutely, but the bible is pretty unambiguous on that "thou shalt not kill"
[08:07:33] <crutchy> ttrue
[08:07:40] <SirFinkus> don't recall seeing an * there
[08:07:41] <crutchy> hence why morality is religious
[08:07:41] <chromas> jesus invented morality on the mount 4000 years ago
[08:08:39] <SirFinkus> that doesn't make sense crutchy, explain
[08:08:53] <crutchy> i don't consider 'morality' to be a natural thing. its taught. that's why hitler thought it moral to commit the holocaust. cos his morals were different to others
[08:09:04] <crutchy> moraility is relative to your upbringing
[08:09:23] <SirFinkus> several passages in the bible lay out "absolute rules" though, even stupid shit like not eating shellfish
[08:09:23] <crutchy> if you're taught that its ok to kill blacks, then you're probably not gunna have a problem with it
[08:09:39] <crutchy> yeah
[08:09:57] <SirFinkus> exactly, morality is relative, there is no "universal moral code" which a lot of these people argue
[08:10:12] <crutchy> my worldview clearly isn't christian i guess :p
[08:11:07] <chromas> you're not a true christian until you've killed people who don't know your ten commandments like no killing
[08:14:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Religious texts are contradictory.
[08:15:09] <Ethanol-fueled> One book says to kill, the other says to care.
[08:16:00] <crutchy> i think most of them buy into the 'just war' doctrine
[08:16:12] <crutchy> "it's ok to kill unbelievers"
[08:16:58] <SirFinkus> 35 minutes in and this guy has gone into pure batshit territory
[08:17:15] * chromas notes that, at least the bible, doesn't actually 'say' to do anything; it's characters talking to each other
[08:17:17] <crutchy> but if that weren't generally accepted then iraq wouldn't be the shithole that america has created'
[08:17:41] <SirFinkus> "you have you use biblical presuppositions to argue against the bible"
[08:17:48] <SirFinkus> lol
[08:18:15] <crutchy> chromas, atheists by necessity have to interpret the bible to refute it
[08:18:26] <chromas> or they can just ignore it
[08:18:47] <SirFinkus> he hasn't presented any arguments to support this claim, he's just stating it over and over again.
[08:18:53] <crutchy> pretty hard to argue with something you ignore
[08:19:15] <chromas> nuh uh!
[08:19:16] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i just like the worldview thing
[08:19:17] <chromas> /ignroe crutchy
[08:19:46] <crutchy> i kinda agree about everyone interpreting evidence based on their own experiences and presuppositions
[08:20:00] <SirFinkus> so how has the Christian worldview advanced our understanding of the universe?
[08:20:14] <crutchy> which is why i've treated science with as much scepticism as religion
[08:20:22] <crutchy> SirFinkus, yeah i dunno
[08:20:28] <crutchy> that's his worldview i guess
[08:21:27] <SirFinkus> it works with science though, since the vast majority of science you can independently verify
[08:21:31] <crutchy> but to its credit, science and christianity have gone through a lot of documented history side by side
[08:21:47] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i think the whole point is you can't
[08:21:52] <crutchy> you only think you can
[08:22:05] <SirFinkus> it isn't perfect obviously, but scientists will listen to you if you have evidence that contradicts a theory
[08:22:12] <crutchy> you can look at evidence with as much bias as any religious guy
[08:22:32] * chromas mixes baking soda and vinegar; waits for reaction. hmmm, must not believe in it hard enough
[08:22:33] <crutchy> scientists are as arrogant as any religious whacko
[08:22:43] <crutchy> in some cases moreso
[08:23:12] <crutchy> what could be more arrogant than "nothing can possibly travel faster than the speed of light"
[08:23:28] <SirFinkus> "there is a good that created us in his image"
[08:23:32] <SirFinkus> *god
[08:23:54] <SirFinkus> and we have evidence for the speed of light thing
[08:23:56] <crutchy> as if some deity spoke to einstein and told him such
[08:23:58] <chromas> it can go faster, we just can't observe it visually because we need light to do that
[08:24:05] <crutchy> you have an interpretation of the evidence
[08:24:42] <crutchy> evidence isn't justification unto itself
[08:25:04] <crutchy> the evidence for everything is probably staring us in the face, but it doesn't mean we understand it yet
[08:25:04] <SirFinkus> it's better than "no evidence whatsoever"
[08:25:19] <crutchy> well you think there's no evidence otherwise
[08:25:29] <crutchy> but if there were a chance would you seek it out?
[08:25:45] <SirFinkus> you don't think people have?
[08:25:46] <crutchy> not too many scientists investigating creationism
[08:25:56] * chromas writes a book which says it's authoritative because it says it is, and predicts that other people will try to disprove it, thereby proving it knows what it's talking about
[08:26:03] <crutchy> they all too busy congratulating each other
[08:26:13] <SirFinkus> here's an actual true fact
[08:26:16] <SirFinkus> I am god
[08:26:18] <crutchy> hahaha
[08:26:20] <SirFinkus> I created the universe
[08:26:29] <SirFinkus> I'm omnipresent
[08:26:36] <crutchy> well, people have done that too. they're called cults
[08:26:37] <chromas> there's a lot of christian scientists trying to prove jesus pooped us out 6k years ago
[08:26:40] <SirFinkus> prove that I'm not
[08:26:45] <crutchy> i can't
[08:26:53] <crutchy> but i wouldn't assume to be able to either
[08:26:57] <SirFinkus> you can't, because that's just "your world view"
[08:27:02] <crutchy> correct
[08:27:14] <crutchy> i'm limited by my own experience and beliefs
[08:27:54] <crutchy> nothing to be ashamed of either
[08:27:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Only one man is god.
[08:27:59] <Ethanol-fueled> GG ALLIN.
[08:28:12] <crutchy> pfft. tommy emmanuel
[08:28:34] <chromas> jimmy james
[08:28:52] <SirFinkus> but someone who claims I am god based on his "world view"'s theory is just as valid as someone who as come to a different conclusion based on evidence, observation, and reproducability?
[08:29:11] <SirFinkus> apologies for that abortion of a statement, I'm durnk
[08:29:13] <crutchy> and how good you are at convincing others i guess
[08:29:28] <SirFinkus> otherwise I wouldn't be having this argument
[08:29:33] <crutchy> a lot of scientific discoveries were disregarded for a long time
[08:29:42] <crutchy> you have to convince the masses
[08:29:56] <SirFinkus> true, but the evidence wins in the end
[08:30:04] <SirFinkus> if you can predict results, you win
[08:30:32] <crutchy> if you think of winning in terms of convincing others then i'd say religion has it won by a long shot
[08:30:50] <SirFinkus> Einstein explained the orbit of venus or some shit perfectly
[08:30:51] <crutchy> if you can't convince others, then its irrelvent
[08:31:02] <crutchy> perfectly eh?
[08:31:04] <SirFinkus> which is why anyone took him seriously
[08:31:09] <crutchy> what is 'perfection'
[08:31:25] <SirFinkus> thus the end of newtonian physics
[08:31:33] <crutchy> perfection sounds like something only religious whacks mention
[08:31:56] <crutchy> entropy would kinda imply that nothing in nature is perfect
[08:32:18] <crutchy> including the orbit of venus
[08:32:20] <SirFinkus> and newton explaining elliptical orbits rather than circular ones
[08:32:39] <crutchy> that's just an observation, but yeah
[08:33:20] <crutchy> we like trying to fit all our observations into nice little equations
[08:33:25] <crutchy> its habit i guess
[08:33:45] <crutchy> then someone comes along with a better equation
[08:33:57] <crutchy> and somehow it's more 'perfect' than the last
[08:33:59] <SirFinkus> perfect is perhaps the wrong word, but the reason Einstein's theories were given the time of day is because he made predictions, and they were correct
[08:34:41] <SirFinkus> meanwhile, the Bible makes claims, and those claims are self evident because the bible says so, regardless of evidence to the contrary
[08:34:42] <crutchy> its true that we can make predictions based on observed behaviour of some things
[08:34:56] <crutchy> well, yeah.
[08:35:16] <crutchy> but science is also based on the assumption that we could possibly predict things
[08:35:40] <crutchy> the guy talks about reliability of our senses
[08:35:49] <crutchy> the whole matrix and illusion thing
[08:36:07] <crutchy> we assume what we observe to be correct
[08:37:05] <crutchy> actually, the ability to predict natural behavior kinda goes against entropy
[08:37:43] <crutchy> maybe not in the short term i guess
[08:38:12] <crutchy> anyway, i thought it was an interesting video
[08:38:17] <SirFinkus> I'm not a physicist (I doubt you are either) but I believe the universe is deterministic
[08:39:03] <crutchy> i have a decent understanding of basic physic (i kinda get paid for it) but i honestly have nfi
[08:39:36] <crutchy> if a building i designed did something entirely unexpected one day it would surprise me but perhaps not as much as die hard science kooks
[08:40:16] <crutchy> i think understanding the universe is waaaaaaaay beyond our feeble minds
[08:40:45] <crutchy> science gives itself too much credit and not enough critique
[08:41:42] <crutchy> anyone can be a scientist. there's no standard and scientists aren't accountable for their fuck ups
[08:41:53] <crutchy> so i don't respect them
[08:42:35] <chromas> you should give high school speeches
[08:43:06] <crutchy> i babble on a lot don't i :/
[08:43:14] <chromas> I see before me a bunch of graduates, I guess. Anyone can be a scientist. There's no standard and scientists aren't accountable for their fuck ups so i don't respect them.
[08:43:27] <chromas> I was just thinking of the last two lines
[08:43:32] <chromas> needed a grab :D
[08:44:04] <crutchy> i do respect some individual scientists, like tesla, but "science" in general is rediculous
[08:45:01] <crutchy> even the scientific method seems to have been pushed by the wayside to some degree. now our "science" is what we see on the news
[08:45:56] <crutchy> and the bickering between evolutionists and creationists. total bullshit
[08:46:12] <crutchy> as if any of them could be proven right
[08:46:20] * chromas notes that getting the soul for gate grinding in 99th street is a bitch
[08:46:33] <chromas> jsrf++
[08:46:33] <Bender> karma - jsrf: 1
[08:46:37] <crutchy> is that a game?
[08:46:54] <chromas> yeah; skate and graffiti
[08:47:27] <chromas> even the cops, when they bring in tanks and helicopters (to fight graffiti), you fight them by spraypainting them
[08:47:34] <crutchy> hahaha
[08:48:00] * crutchy wonders if it works in real life
[08:48:15] -!- ar [ar!arachnist@t.am-a.cat] has parted #Soylent
[08:48:27] <chromas> oh shit, he Konomi'd
[08:48:40] <crutchy> prolly a science whacko
[08:48:50] <crutchy> some of 'em are pretty religious about it
[08:48:57] <chromas> ~last nick=ar
[08:48:59] <exec> 03[2015-03-22 05:42:15.945] #Soylent <arti> this is what the internet is for
[08:49:08] <chromas> oh shit, it's a regex now, so uh
[08:49:15] <chromas> ~last nick=ar!
[08:49:17] <exec> 03[2015-03-22 00:21:37.998] #Soylent <ar> TLA: i have internets from a cable company and last time my ip changed was on 14 March 2014
[08:49:55] * chromas was semi-raised as an sda. like jews for jesus with some nut on the side
[08:50:14] <chromas> though the ones around here have dropped a lot of the nuttiness
[08:51:11] <chromas> on the plus side, they have an affinity for nuts and stuff so I can walk down the street and buy all kinds of nuts in bulk
[08:53:11] <crutchy> the science vs religion threads on SN are pretty tame
[08:53:23] <crutchy> need a real trollfest
[08:53:25] <chromas> well you need to speak up
[08:53:39] <crutchy> you reckon i could push buttons?
[08:54:03] <crutchy> when i comment most of them just disregard me as an ignorant fool
[08:54:16] <chromas> I reckon should press as hard as you can :D
[08:54:24] <crutchy> maybe i suck at trolling
[08:54:24] <chromas> well
[08:54:37] <chromas> feed your lines to ciri and see what it has to say
[08:54:58] <crutchy> i would become enlightened!
[08:55:06] <crutchy> praise ciri!
[08:55:16] <crutchy> the lord our savior!
[08:55:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Did somebody say, TROLLING?!
[08:55:27] <crutchy> lol
[08:55:33] <crutchy> :D
[08:55:39] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: soylent needs a stimulus package
[08:55:57] <crutchy> i'm starting a new religion, with ciri as my gawd
[08:56:02] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah, I wish I had the energy, honestly.
[08:56:18] <crutchy> yeah trolling is hard work. fuck that
[08:56:39] <crutchy> and i'm banned for spamming
[08:56:42] <Ethanol-fueled> I didn't even get boozed up that much tonight like I thought I would. So no troll output from me tonight.
[08:56:48] <crutchy> i was a nawty boy
[08:56:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Are you really banned for spamming?
[08:56:52] <crutchy> yeah
[08:56:55] <Ethanol-fueled> for what? Links or STFU
[08:57:03] <crutchy> nah i was testing
[08:57:14] <crutchy> pretty lame really, but meh
[08:57:43] <Ethanol-fueled> If you want to troll Soylent News then wait until the next vaccine discussion comes up and claim to be an anti-vaxxer
[08:57:51] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[08:57:51] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[08:57:58] <crutchy> 3 spam comments
[08:57:59] <ciri> 4
[08:58:00] <ciri> 5
[08:58:02] <ciri> 6
[08:58:04] <ciri> 7
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[08:58:08] <ciri> 9
[08:58:09] <crutchy> praise the lawd!
[08:58:10] <ciri> 10!
[08:58:18] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHahaha
[08:58:22] <Ethanol-fueled> I LOL'd.
[08:58:23] <chromas> not really spam though :/
[08:58:30] <chromas> crutchy++
[08:58:30] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 135
[08:58:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Pure shitposting.
[08:58:50] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy++
[08:58:50] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 136
[08:58:54] <crutchy> i was testing a comment feed
[08:59:09] <crutchy> it technically is kinda spammy, so i'm ok with it
[08:59:28] <chromas> don't see links or repetitivity
[08:59:43] <crutchy> shit. i forgot to add them
[08:59:56] <chromas> well then, it forgot to be spam :)
[09:02:27] <crutchy> hahaha. love this guy
[09:02:29] <crutchy> http://www.sbs.com.au
[09:02:36] <crutchy> now that's a protest sign!
[09:02:55] <Ethanol-fueled> slashdot.org
[09:03:13] <chromas> http://imgur.com
[09:03:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03Jigglypuff's Song - Imgur
[09:03:42] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAH
[09:04:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Bill Cosby is nasty. But then again errybody in Hollywood are molesters or pederasts.
[09:04:09] <crutchy> damn sound not working :/
[09:04:24] <chromas> somebody's getting the pudding pop
[09:05:42] <chromas> Cosby in the Chocolate Factory
[09:19:33] <Ethanol-fueled> GAYS.
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[09:52:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BitTorrent Client Vuze now Merging Swarms to Speed up Downloads - http://sylnt.us - swarms-of-swarms
[10:18:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:18:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1198
[11:34:03] <crutchy> ++coffee
[11:34:04] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 244
[11:34:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, crutchy
[11:53:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obama: Maybe It's Time For Mandatory Voting in US - http://sylnt.us - but-but-it's-raining!
[11:55:31] <chromas> maybe it's time to put all our politicians on trial at arbitrary times
[11:56:29] * chromas sets up the wheel spinner
[11:56:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> One term in office, one in prison.
[11:56:59] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++
[11:56:59] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 160
[12:02:54] <crutchy> haha then you guys will know how we feel in upside down land
[12:03:08] <crutchy> compulsory_voting--
[12:03:08] <Bender> karma - compulsory_voting: -1
[12:03:15] <crutchy> donkey votes are fun though
[12:03:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, never happen here
[12:03:45] <chromas> we have donkey votes
[12:03:45] <crutchy> luckily i live just around the corner from my voting place
[12:03:51] <chromas> 'cause we have asses in office
[12:04:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell obama couldn't have gotten that passed even when he held both houses
[12:06:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> be interesting to see how many of those 112+yo people on social security vote though. my guess'd be democrat given that's how most dead people vote.
[12:06:56] <ciri> lol weak bladder TheMightyBuzzard
[12:07:41] <chromas> oh I guess ciri is a girl
[12:09:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i keep tellin people this but nobody believes me
[12:10:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody can be that scatterbrained and be male
[12:14:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> why toilet paper costs money when they give tax forms away for free is a mystery
[12:15:33] <chromas> toilet paper hold water
[12:16:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> wrinkle it up enough and so will a tax form
[12:16:43] <chromas> yeah but not figuratively
[12:17:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's fair
[12:26:14] <crutchy> wtf triggered ciri before?
[12:26:29] <crutchy> that was a weird response :D
[12:26:33] <crutchy> ciri++
[12:26:33] <Bender> karma - ciri: -28
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[12:47:48] <crutchy> ~g'day janrinok
[12:47:49] * exec dexterously poops a buzz saw of splodge for janrinok
[12:47:59] <crutchy> o.O
[12:50:17] <janrinok> hi crutchy - how's things?
[12:50:18] <ciri> hi i'm happy today! :D janrinok
[12:50:35] <crutchy> almost bed time here. just winding down
[12:50:47] * janrinok a buzz saw of splodge - not the most useful of things he has been given
[12:50:55] <crutchy> heh :p
[12:50:57] <janrinok> had a good day?
[12:51:16] <crutchy> yeah not bad. how bout yourself?
[12:51:24] <crutchy> morning there i guess?
[12:51:41] <janrinok> not bad, had a quiet morning and now beginning what I hope will be a restful afternoon
[12:52:00] <crutchy> sounds like a good plan
[12:52:17] <janrinok> my plans often come unstuck when I least expect it
[12:52:36] <crutchy> haha yeah that can happen. especially with kids
[12:52:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima go through dev and make local time show next to UTC for queued stories for eds.
[12:52:50] <crutchy> my two little grots get up to all sorts of trouble
[12:54:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> outstandin, sounds like they had a good day then.
[12:54:17] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: did marty mention his desire to have the delta between 2 successive stories dislayed?
[12:54:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obama: Maybe It's Time for Mandatory Voting in US - http://sylnt.us - but-but-it's-raining!
[12:54:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, not to me.
[12:54:35] <crutchy> oh. is that one a repeat?
[12:54:45] <crutchy> or maybe it was edited again
[12:55:02] <janrinok> no - it looks like Bender is running late
[12:55:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, resets the newness in the rss feed when it gets edited
[12:55:07] <chromas> Bender: s/(t)-/\1\1/g
[12:55:07] <sedctl> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obama: Maybe It's Time for Mandatory Voting in US - http://sylnt.us - buttbuttit's-raining!
[12:55:12] <chromas> frownctl
[12:55:16] <crutchy> hehe. "newness"
[12:55:46] <crutchy> sedctl, s/butt/hole/2
[12:55:46] <sedctl> <crutchy> <sedctl> <chromas> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obama: Maybe It's Time for Mandatory Voting in US - http://sylnt.us - buttholeit's-raining!
[12:55:58] <crutchy> :D
[12:56:08] <crutchy> we need a tama in here :p
[12:56:21] <crutchy> ~random nick=tama
[12:56:24] <exec> 03[2014-09-04 08:34:52.141] #Soylent <tama> yo mama is so smelly her farts block their noses
[12:56:44] <janrinok> how old (ish) are your young 'uns crutchy ?
[12:56:48] <crutchy> oh my that's in this channel o.O
[12:57:04] <crutchy> miss 6 and mr 8
[12:57:16] <janrinok> a good interesting age for kids growing up
[12:57:31] <crutchy> yeah. they're good kids most of the time
[12:57:34] <janrinok> They have characters of their own and are naturally inquisitive
[12:57:59] <crutchy> my boy is reading stuff and i can't remember him learning to read like that. happens too quick
[12:58:21] <janrinok> he learn a lot by reading so that is no bad thing
[12:58:28] <janrinok> he'll *
[12:58:59] <crutchy> yeah. gotta be a bit careful about what's going on in irc though cos he can read that too :p
[12:59:12] <crutchy> that's why i mostly chat at night after bed time
[12:59:22] <janrinok> lol
[12:59:23] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[12:59:32] <janrinok> and parents misbehave too....
[12:59:50] <crutchy> heh
[13:00:51] <crutchy> anyway, i'll catch yas tomorrow. got workipoos in a few hours :/
[13:01:04] <crutchy> ~g'night #soylent
[13:01:05] * exec abrasively throws a pair of used panties full of vibrating rooster sammich at #soylent
[13:01:15] <crutchy> .O
[13:09:59] <janrinok> cheers crutchy
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[13:55:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ties Alleged Between Kaspersky Lab and Russian Intelligence Agencies - http://sylnt.us - I-spy-with-my-little-computer
[14:10:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, ping
[14:58:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.forbes.com
[14:58:11] <NetCraft> ^ 03Java Makes Programmers Want To Do Absolutely Anything Else With Their Time - Forbes
[15:13:30] <paulej72> thats a painful article to read
[15:13:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> is a bit longish
[15:14:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaks to my codey heart though
[15:38:26] <Popeidol> "cody heart" is a great name for a kid
[15:56:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US to Withold Intelligence on Terror-Plots if Germany Grants Asylum to Snowden? - http://sylnt.us - ministry-of-freedom-department
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[17:46:48] <chromas> "thats a painful article to read"
[17:47:00] <chromas> they're trying to appeal to java programmers
[18:28:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Most Stars in the Galaxy Have Planets in the Habitable Zone, According to New Research - http://sylnt.us - Titius-Bode-law-meets-drake-equation
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[19:04:32] <chromas> who knew it was Blood Clot Awareness Month?
[19:04:55] <chromas> I'm aware. Now what?
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[19:20:47] <janrinok> I'm a clot - whould I be aware?
[19:20:56] <janrinok> should*
[19:21:17] <janrinok> hi dx3bydt3
[19:21:18] <ciri> what offerings do you bring? janrinok
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[19:33:28] <chromas> you must be aware of blood thinners; they could be hiding in any bush, or pop out from any corner
[19:33:39] <chromas> they're coming to get you
[19:34:01] <janrinok> Unfortuantely, I have to take them everyday...
[19:35:02] <janrinok> if I don't, then the clots come to get me instead...:)
[19:35:10] <chromas> are you prevented?
[19:36:09] <janrinok> prevented? No. but I have on rare occasions forgotten. One day is not too serious but more requires treatment.
[19:37:26] <janrinok> Its just part of my daily routine now
[19:40:31] <chromas> http://kernelmag.dailydot.com
[19:40:32] <NetCraft> ^ 03Plugging a 1986 Mac Plus into the modern Web
[19:42:07] * chromas wonders why several meds a racist toward grapefruit juice
[19:45:08] <janrinok> grapefruit juice reacts with several medications to produce a toxin which builds up in the body - the liver I think but I'm not certain - and eventually that causes more severe problems
[19:46:34] <janrinok> chromas: I can eat other citrus fruits but not grapefruit.
[19:48:26] <janrinok> That was a good article about the web and Mac
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[20:02:14] * chromas goes to submit; notes that Accepted Submissions has decremented by 1
[20:25:46] * chromas notes that grapefruits can suck it
[20:27:21] <janrinok> lol
[20:27:32] <janrinok> I've got to go - cu around chromas
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[20:27:50] <chromas> bye, Mr Leavie
[20:33:52] <Landon> hrm
[20:34:00] <Landon> I thought grapefruit juice just nullified the effect of certain meds
[20:34:03] * Landon go look up
[20:34:53] <Landon> http://en.wikipedia.org oh yep, well that could be bad
[20:34:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Grapefruit–drug interactions
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[21:30:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - France: New Roofs Must be Covered In Plants or Solar Panels - http://sylnt.us - home-of-tomorrow
[21:41:39] <chromas> linux-- # for not forcing signal 9 down a process' throat
[21:41:39] <Bender> karma - linux: 10