#Soylent | Logs for 2015-03-12

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[00:13:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Culling Old Cells Improves Health? Would we Still be Ourselves? - http://sylnt.us - Amtal-Rule
[00:17:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org
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[00:57:13] <SirFinkus> good idea for an april fools prank:
[00:57:18] <SirFinkus> hijack scroll
[00:57:38] <SirFinkus> holy shit that's the worst http://futurenytimes.org
[00:57:39] <NetCraft> ^ 03About Us - Future NYT
[00:58:40] <SirFinkus> this is the culprit http://areaaperta.com
[00:58:41] <NetCraft> ^ 03jQuery NiceScroll plugin - scrolling for desktop, mobile and touch devices
[00:59:09] <SirFinkus> please roll this into SN ASAP so we can have custom scrollbars
[01:05:32] <SirFinkus> there is not nearly enough abuse directed at this guy's twitter account
[01:07:23] <SirFinkus> Careerscale IT @careerscale
[01:07:23] <SirFinkus> @nicescroll how do we make this scroll automatically? I see the vertical slider working with mouse etc but what If i want to scroll its own
[01:07:25] <SirFinkus> holy fuck
[01:07:32] <SirFinkus> there are people who actually think like this
[01:08:01] <SirFinkus> luckily, twitter has allowed me to curate a list of people who like this sort of thing, so they'll be first against the wall
[01:08:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> what you going on about?
[01:08:20] <SirFinkus> scroll hijacking
[01:08:50] <SirFinkus> literally worse than the holocaust
[01:09:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds great, we should implement it immediately
[01:10:10] <SirFinkus> there's a jquery plugin for it
[01:10:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> smooth, just what slash needs
[01:11:11] <SirFinkus> just add some parallax and you're set
[01:11:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> really can't have too much jquery
[01:12:59] <SirFinkus> but seriously, here's what I want to do to anyone who implements scroll hijacking
[01:13:25] <SirFinkus> put the in a guillotine, then hook the blade up to a laptop with their page loaded
[01:13:37] <SirFinkus> the position of the blade cooresponds to where they are on the page
[01:13:50] <SirFinkus> then, challenge them to scroll down an arbitrary number of lines
[01:15:30] * SirFinkus likes poetic justic
[01:15:34] <SirFinkus> justice even
[01:15:46] <juggs> how does that look with a script blocker - is it one of those sites that just serves a blank page unless it gets to run its BS scripts?
[01:17:22] <SirFinkus> I gave up on the script blockers a while ago, I realized it's a fight I can't win
[01:17:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, heresy!
[01:18:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> just keep a second browser around for the one in a hundred that truly has issues with script blockers
[01:18:18] <SirFinkus> yeah, I know
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[01:23:37] * SpallsHurgenson notices the new topic and feels he must speak out against the logging, "Won't somebody think of the poor spotted owls?" :)
[01:24:27] * chromas logs the spotted owls over the head
[01:24:46] * TheMightyBuzzard picks them up and starts cleaning them for dinner
[01:27:03] <SpallsHurgenson> but logging is also bad for the ewoks!
[01:28:19] <chromas> ~define ewok
[01:28:40] <chromas> are those the uncle tom guys or the midget teddy bears?
[01:28:43] <SpallsHurgenson> they live on endor with chewbacca, so you must acquit (or something like that :)
[01:28:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, this is why i like gamergaters better than antis: https://twitter.com
[01:28:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03Lord Ellie on Twitter: "FUCK IT. FUCK IT. FUCK IT. FUCK IT. #tits http://t.co"
[01:29:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> some anti douche threatened to leak that if blah blah blah so she posted it herself.
[01:31:28] <SirFinkus> the whole thing is fun to watch from a distance, but it seems like most of the people involved have extra chromosomes
[01:31:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, no worse than EF
[01:32:14] <SirFinkus> the fucking manufactured outrage culture must die
[01:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[01:32:49] <SirFinkus> at first I thought the biggest problem in the world was concerned mothers, but then I realized that was just a subset of manufactured outrage
[01:33:48] <SirFinkus> and you can usually tell that the things they are outraged about don't usually matter very much because people concede to the outraged all the time
[01:34:39] <SirFinkus> they talk about bread and circuses keeping the populace docile, but I think it's more like bread, circuses, and outrage
[01:34:50] <SirFinkus> where outrage is directed at something trivial
[01:34:50] <ciri> out and about!! SirFinkus
[01:34:58] <SirFinkus> go fuck yourself ciri
[01:35:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically.
[01:36:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta give em an enemy to rail against and defeat as well
[01:38:35] <SirFinkus> I wonder what it will be this election cycle, the last one seemed to be gay marriage
[01:39:56] <SirFinkus> if it's hillary, I be it'll be some feminist shit, that seems to be the current zeitgeist
[01:39:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> was it? i thought it was illegal immigrants
[01:40:07] <juggs> it's a wonder to see so much simmering anger in western nations. I don't think the frogs are going to stay in the pot, the lid is not on strongly enough :D
[01:40:07] <SirFinkus> maybe I'm thinking of the one before
[01:40:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, truth there. less than 50 years is my guess for us anyway.
[01:40:37] <SirFinkus> the proles get more upset about relatively minor social issues
[01:41:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> proles really need to just not vote. they dunno wtf they're really voting for anyway.
[01:41:56] <juggs> They'll vote UKIP here....
[01:42:36] <SirFinkus> meanwhile, we have a government that ignores the constitution, and is heading increasingly towards some kind of weird oligarchy situation
[01:42:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> they'd vote for a dead hamster with a good PR guy here.
[01:43:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> come to think of it, a dead hamster would make a better president than any since reagan
[01:43:47] * juggs steps out of a US political discussion. I know not enough. I'll be over there failing to chat up the cute barmaid >>>>
[01:43:49] <SirFinkus> reagan was kind of shitty too
[01:44:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Experts Advise against PM's Encryption Backdoor Plans - http://sylnt.us - trust-no-one
[01:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hows bout it, juggs, dead hamster for PM?
[01:44:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> reagan unfucked the carter economy. that's good enough for me to dig on him.
[01:45:15] <SirFinkus> it's kind of funny, last election I watched the green party vs libertarian debates, and they pretty much agreed on the things I cared about
[01:45:53] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm not in a mood to be drawn into a political discussion.
[01:46:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> not even an absurd one?
[01:46:53] <SirFinkus> following politics is really frustrating because neither of the dominant parties here pass any of my litmus tests
[01:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, like not being crooked fuckwads that couldn't tell the truth if someone snuck it in on their teleprompter?
[01:47:55] <SirFinkus> generally, when voting time comes around, I look up the canidates' voting records (only thing that really counts) and use them to make my decisions
[01:48:28] <SirFinkus> campaign funders can also be instructive
[01:48:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i pick the one who sounds like they'll fuck things up the worst. that way i either get exactly what i wanted or i'm pleasantly surprised.
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[01:49:16] <SirFinkus> I don't play the lesser evil game, if they disagree with me on certain points, I can't morally justify voting for them
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[01:49:43] <SirFinkus> oh wait, read that wrong
[01:49:50] <SirFinkus> you're playing the greater evil game
[01:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly, vote for the greater evil. cthulu 2016 bitches.
[01:49:58] * SirFinkus ponders
[01:49:59] <Bytram> Nojour, Kimosabees!
[01:50:06] <SpallsHurgenson> http://gizmodo.com good intro
[01:50:07] <NetCraft> ^ 03Why America's Internet Is So Shitty and Slow
[01:50:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> hola Bytram
[01:50:19] <Bytram> hiya!
[01:50:30] <Bytram> have you played around with devtest at all?
[01:50:45] * Bytram is having no luck getting a story pushed to the front page. :/
[01:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a lot. see if you can break what's on dev first. it's out this weekend as is if you can't find nothin.
[01:51:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothin new that is
[01:51:55] <Bytram> Ok, you guys gotta keep me in the loop! I thought I was supposed to be beating on *devtest*
[01:52:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> both really
[01:52:15] <Bytram> well, devtest has, umm, issues.
[01:52:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> but short time on dev then everything will be devtest going forward
[01:52:27] <Bytram> can't get journals to appear on main page.
[01:52:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, neat
[01:52:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't get any stories to appear on the main page at the moment.
[01:52:58] <Bytram> yup, that too.
[01:53:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> nc broked it. or fixed it. i forget which.
[01:53:14] <Bytram> also, I've got a comment that when I try to post gives me: "The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request."
[01:53:29] <Bytram> (NCE Special Characters)
[01:53:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[01:53:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> wish i had time to fix on it
[01:54:00] <Bytram> do you still have the three NCE test files I created?
[01:54:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh heck no
[01:54:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> well maybe in the depths of my inbox
[01:54:29] <Bytram> IIRC, I emailed them to you... might they still be in your mail folder?
[01:54:42] <Bytram> LOL!
[01:54:47] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[01:54:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03IBM Selectric Typewriter & its digital to analogue converter - YouTube
[01:55:45] <Bytram> no biggee, I could send 'em to you again.
[01:56:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh god no. i use like one character
[01:57:40] <Bytram> well, there's quite a few in the 3rd test file, and I dunno which one(s) make it croak. You can find out lots faster by loading the wholelot of 'em and seeing where it happens.
[01:57:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're in there somewhere. haven't got many from you.
[01:58:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but you CAN'T see where it happens when you do that except to know that it's "somewhere in these 20k characters i just tried"
[01:59:32] <Bytram> hrrm, no logging capability? Buggers
[02:00:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but not logging within a single variable
[02:02:52] <Bytram> okaaaay
[02:03:09] <Bytram> oh.
[02:12:03] * SpallsHurgenson goes through his piles of CDs and decides it may be time to discard one or two of the copies of Roxio Creator that he has received with every bloody optical drive he has purchased in the last twenty years
[02:13:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> want a doom shareware disk?
[02:15:43] <SpallsHurgenson> I also decided it may not be ABSOLUTELY essential anymore for me to own a driver CD for a video card I tossed ten years ago
[02:16:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: FYI, I just emailed ya a copy of my 3 NCE test files so that we are all on the same page.
[02:17:20] <Bytram> http://feeds.arstechnica.com
[02:17:21] <NetCraft> ^ 03Ars tests ExoNet, the personal VPN that takes you home | Ars Technica ( http://arstechnica.com )
[02:17:59] <Bytram> !uid
[02:17:59] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5152, owned by KiwiDave
[02:19:08] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[02:19:21] <Bytram> !weather boston
[02:19:26] <Bytram> ^weather boston
[02:19:27] <geotti_away> [Boston, Massachusetts] Clear. Temp is 7.5*C but feels like 7*C. South wind: 5.1 kph. Humidity: 52%.
[02:19:38] <Bytram> coffee++
[02:19:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1170
[02:20:22] * Bytram is reminded of the old DEC PDP-11/70 he used to program on
[02:20:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> oldschool
[02:21:21] <Bytram> nah, that was a huge upgrade from the PDP-8 that used before it!
[02:21:37] <Bytram> s/be/he be/
[02:21:37] <sedctl> <Bytram> nah, that was a huge upgrade from the PDP-8 that used he before it!
[02:21:41] * SpallsHurgenson wonders if he still requires CDs fir 7-year old Linux distributios
[02:22:05] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: just dump images of 'em onto disk?
[02:22:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> you never know...
[02:22:27] <Bytram> the compare to make sure no bit rot got ya
[02:22:32] <SpallsHurgenson> nah, I think I'll just dump the disk :)
[02:23:35] * SpallsHurgenson tosses another two spare keyboards
[02:23:59] <Bytram> prolly easier than growing a couple more arms
[02:24:16] <SpallsHurgenson> I still have three backup keyboards :)
[02:25:55] * Bytram looks around for a box of 'Miracle Gro' -- that ought to help, right?
[02:27:39] <SpallsHurgenson> it helped me, or my name isn't Three-Armed Sam!
[02:28:40] <Bytram> prolly type faster than a three-toed sloth, amirite?
[02:29:33] <SpallsHurgenson> I sure do, or my name isn't Seven-Toed Pete!
[02:31:07] <Bytram> Sven Toad Peat?
[02:31:27] <SpallsHurgenson> no, that's my cousin. He lives in Norway
[02:34:07] <SpallsHurgenson> ~weather-add Oslo
[02:34:18] <Bytram> bork bork bork bork!
[02:34:56] <SpallsHurgenson> no, fjord fjord fjord!
[02:35:48] <chromas> prosody--
[02:35:48] <Bender> karma - prosody: 0
[02:36:11] <chromas> can you ford the fjord?
[02:38:44] <Bytram> nah, too 'spensive... can't afford 'em
[02:39:53] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[02:39:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03The fastest star in the galaxy propelled by thermonuclear supernova - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[02:44:08] <SpallsHurgenson> that's no star... that's a space station!
[02:46:24] <SpallsHurgenson> didn't the Puppeteers blow their star system out of known space?
[02:47:30] <Bytram> that was **way** too long ago for me to remember for sure, but it does sound about right
[02:48:26] <Bytram> IIRC they were extremely 'paranoid' and would scram at the least provocation... is that right?
[02:48:49] <SpallsHurgenson> herd animal instincts
[02:48:56] <Bytram> ah! yes!
[02:49:04] <Bytram> Niven wrote that/those... right?
[02:49:22] <SpallsHurgenson> aye
[02:49:56] * Bytram had a friend who picked him up at an airport and gave him a ride to a science fiction convention -- I got to tag along with them. =)
[02:52:50] <Bytram> http://fusion.net
[02:52:50] <NetCraft> ^ 03This guy's light bulb performed a DoS attack on his entire smart house -- Fusion
[02:53:03] <Bytram> not such a bright idea?
[02:55:30] <SpallsHurgenson> "Of course, the bulb receptacle is not supposed to do this, but it happened"
[02:56:37] <SpallsHurgenson> a problem looking for a solution looking for a problem :)
[02:59:55] <Bytram> "no problem?" or "No! problem!"
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[03:45:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mental Health Experts Seek to Block the Paths to Suicide - http://sylnt.us - 1-(800)-273-8255-National-Suicide-Prevention-Lifeline
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[06:17:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Parental Overvaluation Increases Narcissism in Children - http://sylnt.us - Everyone's-a-Winner!
[06:19:48] <chromas> self_esteem--
[06:19:48] <Bender> karma - self_esteem: -1
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[07:48:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Crowdsourced Tech to Help Detroit Remove Blight - http://sylnt.us - Send-him..............to-Detroit!
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[08:11:31] <ar> i first read it as "Crownsourced Tech to Help Remove Detroit"
[08:14:05] <chromas> You know what that means. The brits are gonna finally get us back, through america's shithole
[08:49:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BREAKING - 2 Police Officers Shot in Ferguson - http://sylnt.us
[08:58:35] <chromas> from the probably-deserved-it dept
[09:05:31] <crutchy> milo++
[09:05:31] <Bender> karma - milo: 7
[09:06:09] <chromas> otis--
[09:06:09] <Bender> karma - otis: 0
[09:06:16] <chromas> elevators--
[09:06:16] <Bender> karma - elevators: 0
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[09:23:34] <crutchy> lefties might be interested in this: https://www.youtube.com
[09:23:34] <NetCraft> ^ 03This is National Socialism! - YouTube
[09:24:09] <crutchy> easy to wave off cos its hitler, but the irony is that similar messages are being pushed by the democrats lately
[09:24:53] <crutchy> especially the bit about social welfare
[09:25:19] <crutchy> the nationalist aspects are peddled by bother parties though
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[09:59:25] <TLA> hi
[10:22:25] <crutchy> ~g'day TLA
[10:22:26] * exec diabolically pours a socket of skittles for TLA
[10:29:49] <chromas> https://bits.debian.org
[10:29:49] <NetCraft> ^ 03Bits from Debian - Debian Project Leader elections 2015
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[10:51:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux Kernel Leadership Tries New Way to Resolve Conflict - http://sylnt.us - Cant-we-all-just-get-along?
[11:13:44] <crutchy> from the let's-work-as-a-team-and-do-it-my-way dept.
[11:21:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BREAKING: 2 Police Officers Shot in Ferguson - http://sylnt.us - out-of-the-frying-pan
[12:22:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CIA Supplied Phone Scanning Tech to Justice Department - http://sylnt.us - sharing-is-caring
[12:23:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:23:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1171
[12:44:53] <paulej72> someone is waking up late
[12:57:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> you ain't kiddin, nearly two hours after i shoulda had my coffee.
[12:57:50] <paulej72> did we keep you up late last night
[12:58:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i set the alarm on my computer but forgot to turn the volume up to GTFO-of-bed levels last night
[12:58:21] <paulej72> lol
[12:58:22] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[12:58:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> my cats were not amused. it was almost daylight before they got to get out there and start stalking the early bird
[12:59:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy crap, fishing forecast shows outstanding fishing for several hours starting about 10am
[13:01:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> spose i can spare an hour or two to see if it's correct for from-the-shore fishing or if everything's still down deep from the cold
[13:01:34] <paulej72> your cats don't act as backup alarms?
[13:01:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:01:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1172
[13:01:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, grabbed the keyboard by that hotkey
[13:02:34] <paulej72> speaking of which I should get mine
[13:03:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, they don't get to be in my bedroom on account of i'm allergic to the lil bastards. just not horribly allergic. have to have my face near one or near something they been laying on to be terribly inconvenienced.
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[13:08:01] <Bytram> hi all!
[13:08:06] <Bytram> team++
[13:08:06] <Bender> karma - team: 4
[13:08:26] <Bytram> looks like prod, dev, devtest, etc are all up and running okay
[13:08:34] <Bytram> thanks for all your hard work!
[13:08:37] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:08:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1173
[13:08:41] <Bytram> !uid
[13:08:42] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5152, owned by KiwiDave
[13:08:56] * Bytram only has a few minutes before he has to head out for the day
[13:09:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:09:12] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 152
[13:09:16] <Bytram> paulej72++
[13:09:16] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 115
[13:09:19] <Bytram> NCommander++
[13:09:19] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 64
[13:09:24] <Bytram> wha?
[13:09:27] <Bytram> NCommander++
[13:09:27] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 65
[13:09:28] <Bytram> NCommander++
[13:09:28] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 66
[13:09:29] <Bytram> NCommander++
[13:09:29] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 67
[13:09:39] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:09:39] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 153
[13:09:45] <Bytram> paulej72++
[13:09:45] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 116
[13:09:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
[13:09:51] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[13:09:53] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 35°F, partly cloudy, wind NW at 14 mph, humidity 37% - Thursday partly cloudy (16°F-35°F), Friday partly cloudy (30°F-40°F), Saturday rain (36°F-42°F), Sunday snow (24°F-40°F)
[13:09:53] <paulej72> hello Bytram
[13:09:54] <ciri> welcome human. paulej72
[13:09:56] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: mornin!
[13:10:00] <Bytram> paulej72: hiya!
[13:10:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[13:10:04] <exec> 03Stratford, OK, USA - currently 50°F, clear, wind E at 4 mph, humidity 82% - Thursday partly cloudy (49°F-67°F), Friday chance of rain (50°F-59°F), Saturday partly cloudy (42°F-67°F), Sunday clear (44°F-70°F)
[13:10:04] <paulej72> ~weather
[13:10:06] <exec> 03Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 41°F / 5°C, clear, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 48% - Thursday clear (26°F-49°F / -3°C-9°C), Friday partly cloudy (38°F-51°F / 3°C-11°C), Saturday rain (42°F-57°F / 6°C-14°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (33°F-51°F / 1°C-11°C)
[13:10:29] <Bytram> supposed to cool off into the teens as the day goes on
[13:10:31] <Bytram> :(
[13:10:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, i am gonna have to go wet a fishing line or two today.
[13:10:42] <Bytram> good luck
[13:11:02] <Bytram> everything go okay last night?
[13:11:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly be terrible luck unless i take the boat out. water's still too cool for anything to be close to the shore.
[13:11:30] <paulej72> I am not sure if we completed any part, but we are making progress
[13:11:39] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:12:03] <Bytram> are there release notes anywhere as to what systems have what on them and what needs testing?
[13:12:19] * Bytram needs to head out shortly, but wants to beat on a coupla things today if possible
[13:12:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> fek, i was sposed to write release notes.
[13:12:32] <Bytram> =)
[13:12:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good, gives me something to do while i coffee.
[13:12:53] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:13:24] <Bytram> and while you're doing that, /me is gonna do the morning stuff and check back in in about 15m or so.
[13:14:18] <Bytram> would also be helpful to know what is running on what servers atm (much like in the Linode Xen reboot story)
[13:14:27] * Bytram wonders if there is a wiki page with that info
[13:14:35] <Bytram> ok, gtg... biab
[13:14:43] <paulej72> its in the sysop team page
[13:21:10] <ar> http://i.imgur.com ;)
[13:26:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, tried that. spent more time compiling than i did actually doing anything. got over it.
[13:29:42] <paulej72> did you see the poster, it said 10 years compiling. Thats a long time to wait to get a working system
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[13:38:27] <janrinok> hi guys
[13:38:58] <paulej72> hi janrinok
[13:39:39] <paulej72> our favorite AC has not commented on the new Feguson article
[13:39:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, what'd we decide on a karma floor? 10, 20?
[13:40:15] <paulej72> I think 10
[13:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, prolly best to start there
[13:40:48] <janrinok> paulej72: not _yet_ true
[13:40:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> can always bump it up some
[13:40:55] <janrinok> hi TheMightyBuzzard
[13:41:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin/afternoon, janrinok
[13:41:32] <janrinok> I just had 36 hours off - and I'm still knackered!
[13:41:48] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard, did we remove the check that newest accounts are given mod points.
[13:41:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope
[13:41:56] * janrinok suspects it is an age thing...
[13:42:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> should we have?
[13:42:05] <Bytram> ok, gtg
[13:42:10] <Bytram> Have a great day everyone!
[13:42:15] <janrinok> hi bye Bytram
[13:42:16] <ciri> what's going on? janrinok
[13:42:17] <Bytram> janrinok++ HI and bye!
[13:42:17] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 21
[13:42:25] <paulej72> if we have a mod floor, then anyone should get point if they are above the mod floor
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[13:43:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff, just a db change though, so no need for a pull request for it.
[13:43:40] <paulej72> does the mod points task look at mod floor to hand out points?
[13:43:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, those below the floor can still upmod
[13:44:07] <paulej72> we relly shoul not give people points if they cant spend them
[13:44:24] <paulej72> oh that right,
[13:44:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> they just get an error message if they try downmodding.
[13:44:40] <paulej72> forget what i was just mumbling about
[13:45:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries. leave it at a month or newer then or drop it down to one day?
[13:45:06] <paulej72> not fully awake yet, we don't need to change a thing
[13:45:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke
[13:55:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you'll need to change the floor from 20 to 10 when you go to insert that var as part of the upgrade. i put it to 20 just to have a number in the upgrades file.
[13:55:41] <paulej72> sure
[14:04:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and i was supposed to poke you, see if you could get moderation to return you to the last comment you moderated by the A2/mp2 release.
[14:04:37] <janrinok> lol
[14:04:52] <paulej72> not sure will see
[14:05:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. said i'd bring it up in a comment, so i did.
[14:08:06] <paulej72> it all depends on how long we wait to deploy rehash
[14:08:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. it's going to mean they don't see the error messages on error state moderations but thas okay.
[14:09:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> think NC will wait till 15_05 for it or reckon he'll want to do it as a 15_04 release?
[14:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com
[14:12:07] <paulej72> I would rather do a 15_05 release
[14:12:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> see if i missed anything
[14:13:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya me too but i think he's gonna want to try it sooner.
[14:13:24] <paulej72> PP atomatic renewal subscriptions
[14:13:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right
[14:13:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> fixing
[14:14:04] <paulej72> drop down reordering
[14:14:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> covered that
[14:15:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> know i covered that, wtf happened to it?
[14:15:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> <li>Reorganized and prettied up the moderation dropdown list.</li>
[14:16:00] <paulej72> can't read either
[14:16:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't read?
[14:16:42] <paulej72> part of my not fully awake thing
[14:16:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, nod nod
[14:17:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll split that line into two items anyway since it was two items
[14:18:16] <paulej72> what you'll not be able to notice: We steal your first born's genetic code, paten it, then sue you for all you are worth.
[14:18:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> works for me
[14:20:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> updated
[14:23:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bill Introduced to US Senate to Legalize Medical Marijuana - http://sylnt.us - baked-as-a-pie
[14:24:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> what say ya about mod-banning for mod-bombs? same as for spam abuse?
[14:24:39] <paulej72> yep
[14:24:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> will note that then
[14:25:52] <paulej72> mod-bombing trolls though will be a case by case thing. Sometimes they deserve it.
[14:26:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, it's going to require a sentence or two below explaining what a mod-bomb is and how to not do it.
[14:28:59] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard, did you cnage the spam mod removal to set the mod to inactive instead of deleting it
[14:29:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, we hadn't decided how to use inactive last i checked.
[14:29:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> and some mods were getting marked inactive for obscure and arcane reasons we didn't understand.
[14:30:08] <paulej72> Think that is what we want, I did it for the mod bomb removal this way.
[14:30:22] <paulej72> That way we keep a record of the action.
[14:30:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh okay, i figured we were going to be doing that manually.
[14:30:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> kudos for the linky goodness.
[14:31:07] <paulej72> doing what manually?
[14:31:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> undoing mod bombs
[14:32:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i should pay more attention
[14:32:51] <paulej72> it is manual, just the op for removing a downmod sets the record to inactiv, fixes the points and resets the users karma
[14:33:41] <paulej72> so we do not delete the mod log record, we just set the record to inactive.
[14:34:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. don't think i have the time to fix that before this weekend.
[14:34:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> welcome to it though
[14:34:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> will need to change the spam mods admin page as well to use a different select.
[14:34:45] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: you just reminded me - good luck for the move this w/e
[14:35:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> not going to be able to do that fishing i wanted today either. gotta go get my tires balanced and front end aligned. forgot about it.
[14:36:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't do to make a ~600 mile trip pulling to the left and having a bouncy front tire.
[14:36:46] <janrinok> would make it exciting though.....
[14:38:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> indeed. may you have an interesting drive.
[14:38:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> final draft of the changelog list is up. same link.
[14:38:38] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard, I can make that fix. It should be easy enough to do.
[14:39:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, probably a half hour to an hour to get it done and make sure it's good. gracias man.
[14:40:44] <paulej72> Now that the weather is nice, the outside work on the new building is progressing again
[14:41:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, if your subs for mod-bombs will work go ahead and use them and nuke mine. save us some code.
[14:41:33] <paulej72> getting ready to pour the concrete for the last of the retaining walls. also the final roof work is being done
[14:41:37] <janrinok> paulej72: by 'nice' do you mean above freezing, or has it really changed that much since you were snowed in?
[14:41:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato.
[14:41:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> should have time to check the pull request later this evening.
[14:42:14] <paulej72> this week has been around 50F and above.
[14:42:36] <janrinok> you'll be sat outside sunbathing next....
[14:44:25] <paulej72> http://128.112.32.247
[14:45:01] <janrinok> nice picture!
[14:45:13] <janrinok> ...er feed, they're moving
[14:48:05] <paulej72> http://128.112.140.193
[14:48:21] <paulej72> http://128.112.210.95
[14:48:59] <janrinok> I could watch other people work for ages, without getting tired.
[14:49:06] <paulej72> same here
[14:49:30] <janrinok> is your eyrie somewhere in either picture?
[14:50:25] <paulej72> I used to be able to watch out my window, util the bulding got too big. It is only 20 feet from my window, but that side of the building has no windows because it is cleanroom mechanial chase space
[14:51:07] <paulej72> the last url, the red brick building is where I work.
[14:52:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> Oh hey, pj, you wanna do up the release announcement off that list or ya want I should or give it to juggs or what?
[14:53:49] <paulej72> Lets give it juggs if he is up to it.
[14:54:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> roger dodger. i'll catch him tonight then.
[14:56:00] <paulej72> here is about where my office is: https://www.google.com!3m1!1e3
[14:56:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03Google Maps
[14:59:14] <janrinok> ...approximately heh
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[15:13:41] <ar> Terry Pratchett has died. :<
[15:14:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, just heard that myself. sadface
[15:15:29] <SirFinkus> now the science channel is concentrating on ruining shows that used to be decent
[15:15:36] <SirFinkus> survivorman: bigfoot
[15:15:40] <SirFinkus> I wish I was joking
[15:16:02] <paulej72> when I saw the commerical I was like WTF
[15:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> no more Vimes for me...
[15:16:26] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: only 5 hours from me = )
[15:16:36] * mrcoolbp needs to buy paulej72 a beer
[15:17:12] <ar> http://www.bbc.com
[15:17:12] <SirFinkus> holy shit, and this promo for the network
[15:17:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03BBC News - Fantasy author Pratchett dies aged 66
[15:17:24] <SirFinkus> guy at a blackboard with a bunch of equations
[15:17:28] <SirFinkus> "this isn't science"
[15:17:34] <SirFinkus> *breaks through blackboard*
[15:17:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.pjsmprints.com
[15:17:46] <SirFinkus> *drone delivers a beer to him*
[15:17:50] <NetCraft> ^ 03Terry Pratchett
[15:17:53] <SirFinkus> "THIS is science"
[15:19:10] <SirFinkus> flying a quadcopter isn't science, it's playing with a toy
[15:20:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuckin hell, Nimoy n now Pratchett... who's the third one?
[15:21:25] <SirFinkus> oh shit, missed that
[15:23:28] <SirFinkus> fucking furnace guy was supposed to be here 23 minutes ago
[15:27:51] <SirFinkus> holy shit, they make big pipes by dumping molten iron into a spinning tube
[15:27:56] <SirFinkus> that's badass
[15:30:13] <SirFinkus> hehe, narrator said "bell end"
[15:30:24] <SirFinkus> and talked about inserting pipes into it
[15:38:35] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: https://soylentnews.org
[15:38:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: Sir Terry Pratchett Dead at 66 04(0 comments)
[15:42:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> hah: https://twitter.com
[15:42:37] <NetCraft> ^ 03Colleen Lindsay on Twitter: "The announcement of Terry Pratchett's death on his Twitter feed was elegant and lovely: http://t.co"
[15:47:25] * mrcoolbp sees an email from CowboyNeal that he's still working on the interview questions
[15:54:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sir Terry Pratchett Dead at 66 - http://sylnt.us - RIP-Sir-Terry
[15:55:09] <SirFinkus> they're shilliing books on astral projection and past life regression now
[15:58:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah well, suck day or not my tires ain't gonna balance themselves.
[16:25:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CIA/NSA/GCHQ Built Backdoor into XCode - http://sylnt.us - reflections-on-trusting-trust
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[17:17:03] <Bytram> ~weather boston, ma
[17:17:04] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 36°F, partly cloudy, wind N at 12 mph, humidity 34% - Thursday partly cloudy (16°F-34°F), Friday partly cloudy (30°F-40°F), Saturday rain (36°F-41°F), Sunday snow (24°F-39°F)
[17:17:12] <Bytram> !uid
[17:17:13] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5152, owned by KiwiDave
[17:17:47] <Bytram> ~weather framingham, ma
[17:17:48] <exec> 03Framingham, MA, USA - currently 36°F, clear, wind NE at 6 mph, humidity 33% - Thursday clear (11°F-36°F), Friday partly cloudy (27°F-43°F), Saturday rain (34°F-43°F), Sunday snow (21°F-41°F)
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[17:30:30] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: paulej72: Do either of you have a link to the release notes for the next release? Also, which site should I be testing them on? devtest? dev?
[17:31:12] * Bytram has a few hours available today and would like to take a quick stab at things
[17:31:15] <Bytram> nograb
[17:59:24] <Bytram> *crickets*
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[18:06:14] <Bytram> JamesNZ: g'morning!
[18:10:20] <JamesNZ> Morning Bytram :)
[18:10:41] <Bytram> whacha up to?
[18:12:04] <JamesNZ> Breakfast ;)
[18:12:25] <Bytram> yum!
[18:12:36] <JamesNZ> Ayup. How about you?
[18:13:21] <Bytram> was hoping to beat on the latest release of the site code, but don't know 'xactly what's in it (where the release notes are) nor which site I should be testing on (dev or devtest)
[18:13:40] <Bytram> so, just D/L some work stuff and preparing to take a nap.
[18:13:41] <Bytram> =)
[18:14:03] <JamesNZ> Heh, sweet.
[18:14:41] <Bytram> then again, it's midday were in the states, so I don't really expect a response till early evening, when I'll need to be heading out for some previously planned activities.
[18:14:53] <Bytram> did get a buncha errands done this AM, so it's all good.
[18:15:10] <JamesNZ> \o/
[18:15:40] * Bytram notices the after-lunch time-for-a-nap signals are getting louder
[18:15:57] <Bytram> or my attention span is gettling smaller -- not sure which! =)
[18:16:39] <JamesNZ> Might be both :P
[18:16:40] <Bytram> well, don't let me keep ya from your breakfast... I'll let ya chew in peace.
[18:16:45] <Bytram> LOL!
[18:17:01] <Bytram> biab
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[18:18:34] <Landon> ok, what in the world is an ABE alert
[18:22:20] <SirFinkus> adblock edge?
[18:22:36] <SirFinkus> application boundary exception?
[18:22:59] <SirFinkus> err https://noscript.net
[18:23:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03What's ABE?
[18:23:04] <Landon> TheMightyBuzzard: pong, ABE alert? http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:04] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: Sir Terry Pratchett Dead at 66 04(21 comments)
[18:23:32] <Landon> hmm
[18:23:54] <SirFinkus> oh, no clue
[18:23:56] <Bytram> Landon: hey there!
[18:24:03] <Landon> Bytram: yeah, autojoin was off :P
[18:24:07] <Bytram> I've seen it before... give me a bit to remember
[18:24:10] <Landon> and my linode had its maintenance period a few days ago
[18:25:14] <SirFinkus> looks like it tries to link back to localhost, that site
[18:25:27] <SirFinkus> probably just a bug
[18:25:56] <Landon> mm, that's a poor way to handle it in the article
[18:26:01] <Bytram> ABE == Appllication Boundaries Enforcer
[18:26:08] <SirFinkus> there's a comment about it
[18:26:21] <Landon> only click if you know what you're doing <-- do I know what I'm doing? I don't know what ABE is, but what's wrong with this extremely plain website that I should know what I'm doing ?
[18:26:31] <Bytram> from summarized search results for "ABE AdBlock"
[18:26:37] * Bytram goes to look at: https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:26:37] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: NoScript
[18:26:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Norwegian City Switched to Heat Pump for District Heating - http://sylnt.us - takes-your-breath-away
[18:27:00] <SirFinkus> the site is down anyway
[18:27:09] <Bytram> could also be "AdBlock Edge"
[18:27:12] * Bytram is still looking
[18:27:24] <Landon> pjsmprints? works for me
[18:28:08] <SirFinkus> it's noscript
[18:29:06] <Bytram> ^^^ prolly
[18:29:11] <Bytram> wget http://www.pjsmprints.com
[18:29:11] <NetCraft> " 03Terry Pratchett
[18:29:15] <Bytram> produced a file: index.html
[18:29:31] <Bytram> had a scripted link to googleanalytics in it
[18:31:20] * Bytram doesn't see anything else out of the ordinary in it.
[18:31:35] * Bytram is still wondering what 'pjmsprints' is supposed to mean, though.
[18:32:44] <Landon> going to guess initials
[18:32:55] <Bytram> could be
[18:32:56] <Landon> I see credits on a related page for Paul and Sandra Kidby
[18:33:20] <Bytram> I notice that the page *seems* to be related to the penguin books imprint
[18:35:10] <Bytram> we may just have to wait to ask TheMightyBuzzard directly.
[18:35:17] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[18:35:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03YouTube to add 360-degree videos - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[18:35:31] <Bytram> http://motherboard.vice.com
[18:35:32] <NetCraft> ^ 03The FAA Says You Can't Post Drone Videos on YouTube | Motherboard ( http://motherboard.vice.com )
[18:36:05] * Bytram thought that was an interesting juxtapostioning of stories in the #rss-bot channel
[18:37:29] * Bytram just noticed his NoScript plugin needed updating, and now needs to restart browser. :/
[18:37:32] <SirFinkus> furnace guy never came, just got a call from them
[18:37:41] <SirFinkus> 3 hours and 37 minutes after they were scheduled
[18:37:42] <ciri> 4
[18:37:43] <ciri> 5
[18:37:45] <ciri> 6
[18:37:47] <ciri> 7
[18:37:48] <SirFinkus> no
[18:37:49] <ciri> 8
[18:37:51] <ciri> 9
[18:37:53] <ciri> 10!
[18:38:15] <Bytram> did you call them at the time they were scheduled for when they did not show up?
[18:39:26] <Bytram> Landon: https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:39:27] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: NoScript
[18:39:51] * Bytram has a habit of realizing what he should have done... long after the time was appropriate. :(
[18:40:08] <Bytram> SirFinkus: sorry to hear you had to waste all that time for nothin'
[18:40:27] <SirFinkus> I figured it might have been one of those "we'll show up between 8 and noon" things and I had just misheard
[18:40:41] <Bytram> yeah, I hear ya.
[18:40:43] <SirFinkus> but nope, the "guy was sick"
[18:40:51] <Bytram> furnaceon the fritz or just regular maintenance?
[18:41:00] <Bytram> s/on/ on/
[18:41:00] <sedctl> <Bytram> furnace on the fritz or just regular maintenance?
[18:41:02] <SirFinkus> the latter
[18:41:17] <Bytram> well, that's some small comfort then.
[18:41:33] <Bytram> maybe they got an emergency call for someone else who had no heat / hot water
[18:41:44] <Bytram> or they can't schedule things worth a darn.
[18:42:09] <Bytram> sometimes hard to tell which is which -- I find it best to give 'em the benefit of the doubt, at first.
[18:43:33] <SirFinkus> well, back to skylines
[18:43:47] <Bytram> how you liking it?
[18:43:47] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[18:43:58] <SirFinkus> it's fantastic
[18:44:21] * Bytram notes with approval that SirFinkus is not wasting his time while waiting for the furnace folks and is making the most practical use of the opportunity!
[18:44:26] <Bytram> =)
[18:44:57] <Landon> bah! my heater doesn't kick on anymore! surely you can put off a furnace repair for another 6 months :)
[18:45:12] <Landon> (from ambient temp, not because it's broken...)
[18:45:38] <SirFinkus> it's 16 out now, so it isn't like it's critical
[18:46:07] * Bytram notes that before restart: PM was using 400K / 775K
[18:46:12] * Bytram restarts PM
[18:46:23] <Bytram> well, that's *good* to hear!
[18:47:15] <Bytram> it's about 0 C here right now.
[18:47:31] * Bytram glances nervously at the baseboard heaters in his room
[18:51:03] <Bytram> PM now at 132K / 445K before reloading tab contents
[18:52:25] <Bytram> urk. was looking at size of wrong exe after restart
[18:52:47] <Bytram> after page reloads am now at 317K / 445K -- much better
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[18:53:43] <Bytram> well, time for a nap.
[18:53:48] <Bytram> see ya all later!
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[18:54:41] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: pls post release notes url in here and I can see it from the logs... thanks!
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[18:56:50] * SirFinkus accidentally made ANOTHER penis shaped city
[19:57:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chameleons Change Colors with Crystals - http://sylnt.us - easy-when-you-know-how
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[20:24:31] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:24:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1174
[20:30:09] <arti> fiddlesticks++
[20:30:09] <Bender> karma - fiddlesticks: 1
[20:58:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Calling All Editors - Past or 'Resting' - http://sylnt.us - help
[21:04:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com
[21:04:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, crutchy
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[21:06:49] <paulej72> you scared him away TMB
[21:09:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> just as well, someone gotta keep him on his toes
[21:27:31] <SirFinkus> up to 7k :D
[21:29:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FCC Net Neutrality Document Released - http://sylnt.us - is-the-devil-in-the-detail?
[21:30:57] <chromas> http://www.nbcnews.com
[21:30:57] <NetCraft> ^ 03Akron, Ohio, Police Seek Man Who Defecated on 19 Cars - NBC News
[21:35:00] <arti> !uid
[21:35:00] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5152, owned by KiwiDave
[21:35:22] <arti> SirFinkus, is this how much weight you've gained this year?
[21:35:27] <SirFinkus> citizens
[21:35:39] <arti> oh, brilliant
[21:59:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Farmers Put Down the Plow - http://sylnt.us - otherwise-known-as-how-we-used-to-do-it
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[22:51:44] <arti> lord of the turkeys: https://www.youtube.com
[22:51:46] <NetCraft> ^ 03Aladar'dan Seçim Vaatleri - YouTube
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[23:09:27] <TLA> hai!
[23:09:50] <n1> hi TLA
[23:09:51] <ciri> hello, nice to see yea! n1
[23:10:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, yo
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[23:12:34] <TLA> so I was zipping through and caught the thread on editing the site, and someone had the same thought I did - of maybe using a wiki to go through submissions. Then I instantly hit a problem. It's neither realtime enough nor is there a reliable way of locking pages while someone's editing. I'm sure you've had the issue of a shared database and edit collisions?
[23:13:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp, eds talk on here and you can see when someone else is editing a page.
[23:14:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> well no, we probably have at the odd moment of not paying attention.
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[23:14:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> you ping out, nick?
[23:14:43] <TLA> I don't mean necessarily ECs in Soylent, I had the problem back when I was developing in SQL2k and it damned annoying trying to settle which was the better edit...
[23:14:43] <nick> aye
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[23:15:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> we make them thumb wrestle.
[23:15:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, honestly you'd hafta ask nick here.
[23:16:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i stay out of that mess, it just confuses me. perl makes much more sense than english to me.
[23:16:22] <chromas> <nick> We don't use our thumbs...
[23:16:29] <TLA> haha! Much faster than the way we settled things. We used 60 minute Quake Arena sessions followed by a three hour pub run.
[23:16:31] <nick> what did i miss
[23:17:06] <TLA> whoever was left standing at the end... won.
[23:17:20] * chromas was just pretending to be nick to make another lane joke
[23:17:27] <TLA> we didn't half get through a lot of JD tho.
[23:18:11] <nick> it's always good to be a lame joke
[23:18:24] <nick> or lane?
[23:18:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, he was wondering how yall dealt with conflicting edits to a story.
[23:19:18] <nick> TLA, we usually discuss it in #editorial and come to some agreement
[23:20:11] <TLA> ah... dammit, I was buying Buzzard's thumb war thing there...!
[23:20:17] <nick> if there are two submissions covering the same story it's better to present both on their own, although we do sometimes completely rewrite submissions and merge multiple ones.
[23:20:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially crutchy's on account of they suck
[23:20:48] <nick> usually one editor will work on a submission, put it in the queue and before it goes out another will take a second look
[23:20:58] <nick> and make their own revisions if necessary
[23:21:12] <nick> then the community will complain, and we'll change it some more ;)
[23:21:24] <nick> or leave it, just to annoy everyone
[23:21:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, like Touche
[23:21:57] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard++
[23:21:57] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 154
[23:22:05] <TLA> ok, serious question, how many edits do you reckon result in an article being given the "v1.0, polished" status?
[23:22:26] <nick> two is the theory
[23:22:41] <TLA> sounds about right
[23:22:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> well one and a sign-off minimum.
[23:22:55] <nick> two editors, once each. but often after 'finishing' i'll see some more changes i should make.
[23:23:06] <nick> yeah
[23:23:26] <nick> it does depend on the submission
[23:23:44] <nick> an AnonTechie submission does not really need more than one
[23:24:11] <nick> but policy, and rightly so is it should be signed off by two editors before going to the main page
[23:24:58] <nick> we have pretty colours to make sure we know which havn't been signed off
[23:25:24] <TLA> yep, colours are good
[23:26:22] <TLA> brb, "comfort break" as they say in court 61
[23:27:38] <nick> the FCC story hasn't had another editor sign off because it was breaking news at the time, and i had been looking at the 'editor' story... being selfish
[23:28:02] <TLA> back
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[23:29:10] <nick> wb
[23:30:14] <TLA> hold up, need to see if my latest KSP monstrosity made it to orbit yet...
[23:30:45] <TLA> 26km, this is gonna take all night...
[23:31:16] <nick> heh
[23:31:36] <nick> took me a moment to figure out 'ksp'
[23:31:43] <TLA> I need a faster computer...
[23:32:41] <nick> more faster computers
[23:34:16] <TLA> I've got a 2.6 off my right elbow, the bad is that it's a single core with 1.5GB of RAM, my KSP install needs two cores that speed or faster and 8GB
[23:36:02] <nick> that does not sound ideal
[23:37:27] <TLA> it's not... I just shocked myself realising that that thing is more powerful than my first commercial webserver and it can barely handle the burn test...
[23:39:42] <nick> time to upgrade if you want to do stuff like that
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[23:41:43] <paulej72> oh noes, tmb fell down
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[23:42:37] <Balderdash> I only idle in the cool channels
[23:43:26] <TLA> nope, not gonna type that. We're not on Undernet. :p
[23:46:57] <Balderdash> that's because undernet isn't cool
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[23:49:06] <nick> food++
[23:49:06] <Bender> karma - food: 13
[23:50:45] <Landon> TLA: you're using 64bit KSP{?
[23:50:49] <Landon> how stable is it?
[23:51:44] <TLA> the Linux client is rock solid. They've stopped development on the 64-bit Windows client until Unity fix their end.
[23:55:57] <SirFinkus> 10k, cracks in my design are appearing
[23:56:07] <SirFinkus> but I got traffic mostly under control for now
[23:57:42] <TLA> I actually use the Linux 64-bit client on here and the Windows 32-bit "Lite" build on my netbook (which actually handles it very well considering it's only got a GB of RAM)