#Soylent | Logs for 2015-03-05

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[00:04:23] <juggs> hola o/ anything burn down?
[00:05:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> not yet but the day's young
[00:05:49] <juggs> I can always set some fires :D
[00:06:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> have at it, pj will have to put em out cause i'm bout to go eat
[00:06:23] * mrcoolbp takes away jugg's Soylent-issued flame thrower
[00:09:06] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I'm working on the irc bots story
[00:09:23] <mrcoolbp> what is this note about the "stats" from "diego" (it says "from juggs")
[00:09:25] <mrcoolbp> ?
[00:09:50] <juggs> where does it say that?
[00:11:04] <juggs> diego is the piespy bot that generates the stick chart thingies
[00:11:30] <mrcoolbp> looks like it was pasted from crutchy's intial workup I asked of him:
[00:11:31] <mrcoolbp> <crutchy> diego (juggs) has a stats diagram thingy. http://stats.sylnt.us
[00:11:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SoylentNews - PieSpy Relationship Map - #soylent
[00:11:50] <mrcoolbp> no idea, s'why I'm askin' you = )
[00:12:39] <juggs> Yah - I set it up and it runs on carbon. I think we had a previous version that ended up borked at some point so I just set it up from scratch again
[00:14:30] <juggs> lol - looks like someone updated ciri's command list on the wiki :D
[00:14:55] <mrcoolbp> I'm hoping arti will chime in with the source code
[00:15:36] <juggs> ;battlestations
[00:15:36] <MrPlow> stderr arti juggler Subsentient mechanicjay juggs mrcoolbp NCommander Azrael n1 aqu4 paulej72 Landon TheMightyLaptop TheMightyBuzzard stdhell
[00:15:41] <juggs> OOPS!
[00:15:47] <mrcoolbp> rofl
[00:16:09] <juggs> I blame Bytram of course!
[00:16:11] <Subsentient> $pageall
[00:16:11] <aqu4> No user data available for that channel.
[00:16:22] * Subsentient notes the bug
[00:16:33] <Subsentient> $pageall #soylent
[00:16:33] <aqu4> This command takes no arguments.
[00:16:37] <juggs> does that ping everyone in channel Subsentient ?
[00:16:46] <Subsentient> juggs: Yes it does :^D
[00:16:55] <juggs> ebil!
[00:16:57] <mrcoolbp> juggs: regurgitator is eggdrop no?
[00:17:31] <chromas> ciri is also an eggdrop
[00:17:40] <chromas> with some custom plugins I think
[00:18:05] <juggs> mrcoolbp, yes Regurgitator is Eggdrop with rss-synd plugin for the #rss-bot feed stuff.
[00:18:11] mechanicjay is now known as mechanicjay|away
[00:18:45] <juggs> mrcoolbp, sources for Regurgitator are linked on the wiki.
[00:18:53] <mrcoolbp> aye
[00:20:47] <n1> http://www.bbc.co.uk
[00:20:48] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03BBC News - US ambassador to South Korea attacked
[00:20:48] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03BBC News - US ambassador to South Korea attacked
[00:22:03] <Subsentient> $pageall
[00:22:03] <aqu4> mythterj exec Tachyon SirFinkus Subsentient aqu4 crutchy ciri xar midacre
[00:22:04] <aqu4> n1 TheMightyBuzzard mechanicjay|away swiss Azrael Popeidol MrPlow Landon AndyTheAbsurd
[00:22:05] <aqu4> bryan everdred stderr hka CoolHand joe Hedonismbot TheMightyLaptop stdhell
[00:22:05] <aqu4> tmoeller__ Cyprus Leebert juggs sedctl chromas Bender x0908d3b2 diego
[00:22:06] <aqu4> paulej72 xlefay NCommander tumdedum ar geotti_away mrcoolbp drac arti
[00:22:07] <aqu4> sirecote u Regurgitator necronian dx3bydt3 Loggie juggler
[00:22:10] * Subsentient chuckles evilly
[00:22:14] <Tachyon> >:o
[00:22:22] <juggs> .quiet aqu4
[00:22:22] -!- mode/#Soylent [+q *!*@Soylent/Staff/Editor/Subsentient] by juggler
[00:22:23] <Subsentient> Fixed the bug.
[00:22:24] <Subsentient> :^D
[00:23:37] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Subsentient] by juggler
[00:24:06] -!- mode/#Soylent [-q *!*@Soylent/Staff/Editor/Subsentient] by Subsentient
[00:24:11] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o aqu4] by Subsentient
[00:24:14] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Subsentient] by Subsentient
[00:24:20] <Subsentient> $chanctl deop Subsentient
[00:24:21] <aqu4> Ok.
[00:24:21] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o Subsentient] by aqu4
[00:24:28] <mrcoolbp> nick, juggs: okay, I gotta run off for the night, I made some edits to the bot story, but there's more to be done there, have at it if you like
[00:24:45] <n1> take care, mrcoolbp
[00:24:51] <Subsentient> juggs: Couldn't resist, sry :^P
[00:26:11] <juggs> :D
[00:26:20] <Subsentient> $beer juggs
[00:26:20] * aqu4 gives juggs a cold can of beer
[00:27:30] <juggs> that's uncanny - there's one appeared right by my keyboard :D
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[00:28:08] <Subsentient> juggs: There we go.
[00:28:23] <Subsentient> I forced aqu4 to use my mask on purpose, so I could sneak her into #chillax :^D
[00:28:57] <juggs> The horrors! You mentioned it!
[00:29:25] * Subsentient leaves in shame
[00:30:22] <Subsentient> juggs: So, how long of a network cable will I need for lynching myself? 5 feet sound too long?
[00:30:37] <juggs> It's hardly a secret at thi point I don't think :D
[00:31:07] <chromas> #chillax2: the meltdown
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[01:34:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Predecessor Agency NACA Celebrates Centenary - http://sylnt.us - balloon-to-battlestar
[01:34:23] * SpallsHurgenson sighs, "Oh Babylon 5... why do you make it so hard for me to love you?"
[02:13:42] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm surprised there hasn't been an attempt to revive the franchise; with the advent of cheap CGI eveb amateur productions can match the visuals of the original and god knows Bab5 never needed quality actors... make it a youtube series and I'd watch it
[02:14:28] <chromas> Michael Bay Presents: Baybylon 6
[02:14:53] <SpallsHurgenson> ack, no! back in your corner, chromas! you're a bad, bad man!
[02:15:26] <chromas> if anyone on the net could remake it, why not someone with a budget? 100,000 times the explosions!
[02:16:06] <juggs> needs sharks
[02:16:07] <SpallsHurgenson> fortunately, Straczynski owns the rights :)
[02:18:12] <chromas> Sharktato—Half-baked
[02:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggler, with lasers?
[02:21:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid freakin autocomplete
[02:29:57] <juggs> me thinks I should rename this channel's services bot. Autocomplete is a pain in the ass - I get it frequently between SirFinkus and sirecote
[02:30:16] <chromas> better rename SirFinkus while you're at it :D
[02:30:32] <juggs> sir<TAB> !fuckity!
[02:30:38] <SpallsHurgenson> just deny users from having any nicknaes starting with the letter "s"
[02:30:45] SpallsHurgenson is now known as PallsHurgenson
[02:31:17] <chromas> each nick must start with a different letter
[02:31:46] <PallsHurgenson> finally a reason for unicode!
[02:32:00] <PallsHurgenson> can I have a nickname that starts with an emoji?
[02:32:01] <juggs> hmm - kinda limiting
[02:32:09] chromas is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[02:32:18] SpallsHurgenson is now known as chromas
[02:32:40] <juggs> ohh wait AltGr+u 291073981237somenick - yeh that will be easier :D
[02:32:49] <PallsHurgenson> wait... I'm confused... who am I now?
[02:32:53] <chromas> hm, thought you weren't logged in because Bender doesn't do you
[02:33:13] PallsHurgenson is now known as SpallsHurgenson
[02:33:36] <chromas> /nick Balls_her_Genson
[02:33:54] <chromas> (-1, inappropriate)
[02:36:21] <SpallsHurgenson> ~weather hilo, ha
[02:36:23] <exec> 03Hilo, HI, USA - currently 75°F / 24°C, overcast, wind N at 6 mph, humidity 64% - Wednesday chance of rain (65°F-72°F / 18°C-22°C), Thursday chance of rain (66°F-75°F / 19°C-24°C), Friday chance of rain (67°F-75°F / 19°C-24°C), Saturday chance of rain (65°F-74°F / 18°C-23°C)
[02:36:32] <juggs> ~weather
[02:36:33] <exec> 03London, UK - currently 41°F / 5°C, clear, wind W at 4 mph, humidity 71% - Thursday clear (37°F-55°F / 3°C-13°C), Friday clear (41°F-56°F / 5°C-13°C), Saturday clear (43°F-60°F / 6°C-16°C), Sunday clear (42°F-60°F / 6°C-16°C)
[02:37:01] <SpallsHurgenson> ~weather maunu loa, ha
[02:37:04] <exec> 03Mauna Loa - currently 54°F / 12°C, light rain showers, wind S at 5 mph, humidity 88% - Wednesday chance of rain (52°F-57°F / 11°C-14°C), Thursday chance of rain (52°F-60°F / 11°C-16°C), Friday chance of rain (53°F-63°F / 12°C-17°C), Saturday chance of rain (51°F-62°F / 11°C-17°C)
[02:37:59] <juggs> ~weather moscow
[02:38:01] <exec> 03Moscow, Russia - currently 36°F / 2°C, light snow showers, humidity 88% - Thursday snow showers (27°F-35°F / -3°C-2°C), Friday cloudy (26°F-34°F / -3°C-1°C), Saturday mostly cloudy (23°F-36°F / -5°C-2°C), Sunday clear (32°F-40°F / 0°C-4°C)
[02:38:05] <SpallsHurgenson> "The National Weather Service (NWS) has issued a winter storm warning for the Big Island's volcanic peaks of Maunu Kea and Mauna Loa. The warning says that a foot of snow is possible"
[02:40:42] <SpallsHurgenson> Snow in hawaii; the world has gone mad I tell you; mad!
[02:47:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[02:47:45] <exec> 03Stratford, OK, USA - currently 25°F, light snow, wind N at 14 mph, humidity 93% - Wednesday rain (18°F-53°F), Thursday clear (22°F-38°F), Friday clear (25°F-48°F), Saturday clear (32°F-57°F)
[02:50:41] <SpallsHurgenson> snow in oklahoma? Madness!
[02:51:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> we get a few inches every year
[02:51:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun part was the ice storm we got first
[02:58:53] <SpallsHurgenson> wasn't this how the Day After Tomorrow started? Today some ice, tomorrow dire wolves trying to eat my kidneys!
[02:59:18] <juggs> must be true then
[02:59:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> with a name like SpallsHurgenson, it's a wonder that's not a daily occurrence
[03:01:31] <SpallsHurgenson> can I help it that I have such delicious kidneys? there's hardly a day goes by I don't take a nibble at 'em myself!
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[03:05:36] * juggs offers SpallsHurgenson a chilled chianti
[03:07:39] <SpallsHurgenson> needs some fava beans
[03:08:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> no no no, those are for liver. kidneys demand kidney beans.
[03:09:10] <SpallsHurgenson> look, you eat what side dishes you want when you engage in auto-cannibalism, and I'll chose the side dishes I want when I do the same!
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[03:09:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> your call but you're missing out on some quality punnage
[03:11:40] <SpallsHurgenson> http://videosift.com
[03:11:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Punslingers
[03:12:38] * chromas gives TheMightyBuzzard spam, eggs, sausage and spam
[03:12:43] <chromas> it's not got much spam in it
[03:13:11] <chromas> s/much/not/
[03:13:11] <sedctl> <chromas> it's not got not spam in it
[03:15:53] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com I don't think this technology will ever take off
[03:15:53] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Early CGI - Tomorrow's World - BRITLAB - BBC - YouTube
[03:16:49] <chromas> that guy looks totally fake
[03:17:24] <SpallsHurgenson> no, sadly that's what we all looked like in the 80s
[03:18:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i remember being much shorter in the 80s
[03:18:14] <SpallsHurgenson> no, you were the same size but the rest of the world was taller
[03:18:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid physics
[03:18:41] <SirFinkus> there's an entire channel devoted to vintage computer graphics
[03:19:02] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[03:19:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Locomotion Studies - MIT - Karl Sims (1987) - YouTube
[03:19:06] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[03:19:06] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Early Data Encryption Software - Tomorrow's World - BRITLAB - BBC - YouTube
[03:19:07] <SirFinkus> many of them terrifying
[03:20:55] <SirFinkus> this one is the worst/best https://www.youtube.com
[03:20:56] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Early CGI Facial Animation (1974) - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[03:21:04] <paulej72> bugs--
[03:21:04] <Bender> karma - bugs: -4
[03:21:18] <paulej72> perl_bugs--
[03:21:18] <Bender> karma - perl_bugs: -1
[03:21:23] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, the last one was boasting about the strength of a 56-bit encryption key "the biggest computer mainframes would take more than a million years to come up with an answer" :)
[03:21:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> they really should factor in moore's law with those calculations
[03:22:51] <SpallsHurgenson> take a million years to brute-force the key, wait ten years for computer hardware to catch up to the task, or five years for a vulnerability in the algorithm to be announced :)
[03:24:25] <SirFinkus> encryption? are you terrorists or something?
[03:24:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> duh
[03:24:52] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, aren't we all terrurusts?
[03:25:06] <SpallsHurgenson> damn, joined the wrong channel again!
[03:25:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> <-merican. we started out as traitors and terrorists. also really big cuppa tea makers.
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[03:25:40] <SirFinkus> you want #isis SpallsHurgenson
[03:25:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, i can autocomplete juggs now
[03:26:39] <SpallsHurgenson> well, we all want the egyptian goddess of health and wisdom.
[03:27:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> should rename ciri to wesley so i can script "Shut up, Wesley." whenever it talks.
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[03:28:02] * SpallsHurgenson nominates Bytram to do some tedious and thankless task
[03:28:27] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[03:28:45] <juggs> Careful TheMightyBuzzard or I shall bring God in here!
[03:28:48] <Bytram> not until I can be summoned by battlestations!
[03:29:02] <SpallsHurgenson> again?
[03:29:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander is already in here
[03:29:16] <SirFinkus> all you need to do is wear this vest and go into a nightclub, we'll take it from there
[03:29:17] <Bytram> NCommander: hiya!
[03:29:18] <NCommander> I'm already here :)
[03:29:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'day!
[03:29:24] <NCommander> */homestuck reference*
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[03:29:50] <Bytram> nah, it's just that a couple times I seen usage of some 'battlestations' bot command and I was conspicuously absent from the list
[03:29:59] <SpallsHurgenson> that's not god. god wears nicer shoes.
[03:30:04] * Bytram thinks they're just afraid of what real damage I could cause!
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[03:30:33] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders
[03:30:35] <Bytram> if he's allpowerful, I'd submit that 'God has right', too.
[03:30:46] <Bytram> =)
[03:30:53] <Bytram> !uid
[03:30:53] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5148, owned by retrogamer
[03:31:04] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[03:31:05] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 40°F, overcast, wind SW at 3 mph, humidity 74% - Wednesday snow (26°F-43°F), Thursday snow showers (9°F-28°F), Friday clear (14°F-26°F), Saturday clear (25°F-37°F)
[03:31:17] <Bytram> ~weather nome, ak
[03:31:18] <exec> 03Nome, AK, USA - currently 15°F, overcast, wind E at 7 mph, humidity 91% - Wednesday chance of snow showers (16°F-17°F), Thursday snow showers (2°F-23°F), Friday snow (27°F-31°F), Saturday snow showers (1°F-27°F)
[03:31:19] <SpallsHurgenson> yay snow! more snow for boston!
[03:31:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> woo
[03:31:37] <NCommander> ~weather Anchorage, ak
[03:31:38] <exec> 03Anchorage, AK, USA - currently 34°F / 1°C, overcast, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 94% - Wednesday partly cloudy (30°F-37°F / -1°C-3°C), Thursday mostly cloudy (32°F-37°F / 0°C-3°C), Friday snow showers (34°F-36°F / 1°C-2°C), Saturday chance of showers (24°F-38°F / -4°C-3°C)
[03:31:42] <NCommander> ~weather Rochester, NY
[03:31:43] <exec> 03Rochester, NY, USA - currently 27°F / -3°C, snow, wind NW at 4 mph, humidity 90% - Wednesday snow showers (10°F-39°F / -12°C-4°C), Thursday cloudy (2°F-16°F / -17°C--9°C), Friday clear (15°F-25°F / -9°C--4°C), Saturday snow showers (24°F-36°F / -4°C-2°C)
[03:31:47] <Bytram> have gone this far, might as well set a new record while they're at it, no?
[03:31:50] <SpallsHurgenson> if you can still see boston, it hasn't snowed enough :)
[03:31:52] <paulej72> We should have left God in here
[03:31:57] <NCommander> .... you know, I feel like I moved to the wrong place.
[03:32:01] <Bytram> ~weather portland, me
[03:32:02] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 39°F, clear, wind NW at 4 mph, humidity 64% - Wednesday cloudy (25°F-44°F), Thursday cloudy (3°F-26°F), Friday clear (12°F-26°F), Saturday partly cloudy (19°F-36°F)
[03:32:08] <Bytram> NCommander: where'd u move 2?
[03:32:15] <NCommander> Bytram, Rochester, NY
[03:32:18] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, me
[03:32:19] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 27°F, scattered clouds, wind S at 8 mph, humidity 55% - Wednesday partly cloudy (10°F-35°F), Thursday partly cloudy (-9°F-12°F), Friday clear (6°F-20°F), Saturday cloudy (4°F-29°F)
[03:32:29] <NCommander> Bytram, and just because you're warmer than me, screw you, and screw the state you road in on
[03:32:30] <Bytram> yeah, not the best weather this time of year
[03:32:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i always liked the name Rochester. fun to say.
[03:32:41] <Bytram> LOL.
[03:32:52] <Bytram> Jack Benny reference?
[03:33:05] <SpallsHurgenson> Rochester. Raaaaaaaah-chester. Roch-ester. Roc-hester. Yeah, it is fun
[03:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> cat roundup time
[03:33:37] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: was wondering about the utf-8 stuff...
[03:33:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's still broke
[03:33:56] <Bytram> is it possible to %encode digits so they appear to be utf-8 encoded chars?
[03:34:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, sure. just takes more bytes
[03:34:20] <Bytram> %12%34 to get: 1234 to appear in a url
[03:34:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe, hell, i dunno
[03:34:25] <paulej72> I am so close to getting mod_bomb report working
[03:34:34] <Bytram> paulej72++
[03:34:34] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 111
[03:34:53] <Bytram> yeah, i dunno, either. just struck me as another wonky edge case to test for.
[03:34:54] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, utf is overrated. real men use ebcdic :)
[03:35:09] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: wussy! try BCD
[03:35:19] <Bytram> none of that *extended* stuff!
[03:35:31] * Bytram goes back to memorizing his hollerith codes
[03:35:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Abstract Thinking and Rising IQ Scores - http://sylnt.us - village-idiot
[03:36:45] * Bytram was recently gifted with an old android phone and has been playing around with it
[03:36:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I used to be a village idiot but then flurble burble snuuk snuuk tweee <falls off the hedge>
[03:36:53] <SpallsHurgenson> nograb :)
[03:37:02] <Bytram> lol
[03:37:03] <ciri> :D
[03:38:18] <Bytram> serious question re: touch-interface devices: On a desktop, I can hover my mouse over a URL and see a tooltip as to where it would take me to (or have it appear in a status bar.) Is there something analagous for a touch interface device?
[03:38:40] <Bytram> like a smartphone or tablet?
[03:38:43] <SpallsHurgenson> touch-n-hold?
[03:39:07] <Bytram> I dunno... give me a bit to try... brb
[03:39:36] <chromas> The first Blackberry touchscreens were mounted on buttons, so you could touch to highlight then you had to push the screen in for clicking
[03:40:12] <chromas> Some newer phones can detect hovering fingers
[03:41:02] <Bytram> well, I managed to make it work, once but it showed a shortened version of the url with an '...' over the rightmost part.
[03:41:19] <Bytram> several other times it did nothing, or took me right to the link.
[03:41:20] <Bytram> :/
[03:41:53] <Bytram> with my old blackberry, I could use the scroll wheel to position the cursor over a link and then hit a button to see where it would take me
[03:42:02] <Bytram> 1 step fwd, 2 steps back.
[03:42:39] <Bytram> still, progress!
[03:42:40] <chromas> How old is the phone? Usually, long-pressing a link will give you an open-with type dialog
[03:42:59] <chromas> long pressing text should invoke selection for cut/copy
[03:43:13] <Bytram> chromas: zactly what I got ... but it was finicky about recognizing the gesture
[03:43:25] <Bytram> oooh! that's nice!
[03:43:54] <Bytram> kewel! thanks for that!
[03:44:18] <Bytram> it's a 2+ year old android phone running 4.1.somethin
[03:44:30] <chromas> then you can long-press a text field to get a paste menu
[03:44:59] <Bytram> what I'd really like is to be able to get a terminal window up on the thing and just use it as a linux computer with sed, grep, awk, ls, etc.
[03:45:06] <chromas> You can do that
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[03:45:15] <Bytram> oh?
[03:45:23] <chromas> There are terminal applications as well as ssh ones
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[03:45:42] <Bytram> here's the kicker... I've not connected it to any phone service...
[03:45:50] <chromas> if you put on an alternative OS (cyanogenmod or whatever) it should have a terminal installed by default
[03:46:01] <BadCoderFinger> chromas: Yeah, but that's not native, exactly.
[03:46:03] * Bytram has never burned a rom
[03:46:15] <BadCoderFinger> Although you can do a chroot into a real runtime.
[03:46:16] * Bytram HAS burned his finger, though
[03:46:38] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: howda do that?
[03:46:40] <juggs> ach poop that's going to stuff up Hedonismbot autocomplete
[03:47:06] <Bytram> juggs: come again?
[03:47:08] <chromas> =nick poop
[03:47:08] Hedonismbot is now known as poop
[03:47:15] <paulej72> here is the monster:
[03:47:15] <BadCoderFinger> There's instructions somewhere on the net on how to install a Debian chroot into an Android instance.
[03:47:23] <paulej72> SELECT comments.sid AS sid, comments.cid AS cid, comments.pid AS pid, comments.points AS score, comments.karma AS karma, users.uid AS uid, users.nickname AS nickname, moderatorlog.ipid AS ipid, moderatorlog.val AS val, moderatorlog.reason AS reason, moderatorlog.ts AS ts, moderatorlog.active AS active, moderatorlog.id AS id, moderatorlog.points_orig AS points_orig, comments.uid AS uid2, comments.ipid AS ipid2 FROM moderatorlog, users,
[03:47:23] <paulej72> comments WHERE moderatorlog.uid=users.uid AND moderatorlog.cid=comments.cid AND val < 0 AND moderatorlog.cuid IN (SELECT cuid FROM moderatorlog WHERE val < 0 AND cuid <> 1 AND ts > DATE_SUB(NOW(), INTERVAL 72 HOUR) GROUP BY cuid HAVING COUNT(cuid) >= 3) AND ts > DATE_SUB(NOW(), INTERVAL 72 HOUR) ORDER BY uid2;
[03:47:53] <SpallsHurgenson> odd, I was just going to say that
[03:47:59] <Bytram> LOL!
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[03:52:48] <juggs> .op
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[03:52:53] <juggs> .deop
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[03:53:09] <juggs> meh - that'll do
[03:53:22] <paulej72> I am begining to remember why I have the sound normally off on my laptop
[03:53:23] <chromas> https://wiki.debian.org
[03:53:24] <poop> ^ 03ChrootOnAndroid - Debian Wiki
[03:53:55] <juggs> paulej72, getting op pings? I'm done meddling
[03:54:11] <Bytram> before I start doing anything creative with the device, I need to have a bulletproof backup.
[03:54:17] <chromas> =nick 💩
[03:54:22] <chromas> aw
[03:54:48] <paulej72> op and room joins and parts
[03:54:48] * Bytram has learned that lesson the hard way, and more than once at that.
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[03:55:11] <chromas> :)
[03:55:17] <paulej72> <mute>
[03:55:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, can't decide if i should script these trade skills getting leveled or go to home depot and hire a mexican to do it for me.
[03:56:33] <SpallsHurgenson> back up plan is to buy a new one and fuck around with the older device :)
[03:56:34] <chromas> our home depot doesn't have mexicans
[03:56:50] <juggs> depends how you value your time. One man cannot stop a tsunami.
[03:56:53] <SpallsHurgenson> chromas: aisle 16, on the top shelf
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[03:58:13] <juggs> Imogen will be our mistress for now :)
[03:58:14] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: can't afford a new one -- this one was free, and I can barely afford *that* =)
[03:58:45] <Bytram> afk biab
[03:59:15] <SpallsHurgenson> Bytram: go to your nearest Staples or Whole Foods. They have a bin for recycling old cell-phones. Just reach in and grab the model you like :)
[04:00:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> or mug a teenager
[04:00:27] <SpallsHurgenson> given the choice between touching a greasy teenager and digging through the trash, I pick trash everytime :)
[04:00:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> you get a phone AND you get to kick the hell out of a teenager
[04:02:01] <SpallsHurgenson> the problem is that teenagers have parents who never seem to realize how much their kid NEEDED a beating
[04:02:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> pfft, long gone by then
[04:03:16] <Bytram> lol
[04:03:16] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[04:03:31] <SpallsHurgenson> and teenagers don't know how to care for their gear anyway. trust me, trash is always better :)
[04:03:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i mean it's not like you're going to magically come across one who didn't have it coming
[04:03:36] <Bytram> i'm willing to accept a donation, but not willing to *take* one.
[04:03:43] <Bytram> nograb
[04:04:08] <Bytram> btw, do we have any plans about how we're going to go about the linode reboots on the 7th?
[04:04:22] <Bytram> just let the systems bounce? shut them down before hand?
[04:04:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i plan to be elsewhere
[04:04:43] <Bytram> ~weather elsewhere
[04:04:44] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[04:04:50] <Bytram> nice try.
[04:04:52] <chromas> point DNS to another server with a static page that says "We're upgrading to beta"
[04:05:20] <chromas> or an underconstruction.gif
[04:05:41] <Bytram> as I understand it, putting up a static page is nontrivial.
[04:05:51] <Bytram> has something to do with the loadbalancers or varnish or somesuch
[04:06:06] <chromas> but those are all going down, right?
[04:06:16] <Bytram> but not all at the same time.
[04:06:55] <chromas> I was just thinking bypass it all, but I suppose DNS has cache
[04:07:34] <Bytram> yuppers
[04:09:28] <juggs> It's going to be messy. I can only guess Linode use Xen as a hypervisor. http://www.theregister.co.uk
[04:09:29] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03New Xen vuln triggers Amazon, Rackspace reboot panic redux • The Register
[04:09:29] <Bytram> chromas: here's the story with the dates/times that the boxes will be bounced: https://soylentnews.org
[04:09:30] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: Site Downtime on Saturday March 7 04(8 comments)
[04:09:44] <paulej72> nope almost all of them use Xen
[04:10:09] <juggs> nope?
[04:10:14] <paulej72> Amazon is doing live updates to Xen. others are doing safe xen updates
[04:10:42] <paulej72> got a notice for our Rackspace vm
[04:11:01] <Bytram> so are the Amazon updates 'un-safe'?
[04:11:27] <paulej72> not sure. but time will tell
[04:11:50] <Bytram> nod nod
[04:12:23] <juggs> heh - we need a ksplice for Xen! That always worked well :/
[04:13:03] <Bytram> k
[04:13:04] <chromas> run your hypervisor under a hypervisor
[04:13:16] <Bytram> nah, just give it moah coffee!
[04:13:28] <Bytram> that'll make it moah hyper
[04:13:35] <juggs> nah - route it all through cloudflare.
[04:15:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> bitch of it all is if hydrogen were working we wouldn't have any downtime at all to speak of
[04:15:21] <chromas> still haven't figured it out?
[04:15:28] <chromas> Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[04:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> no time
[04:15:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I was always against the inclusion of hydrogen into any system; it just leads to trouble down the line
[04:16:52] <Bytram> yeah, best to fill your drives with helium, instead.
[04:16:53] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: so we can't put up a static page?
[04:17:22] <paulej72> where and how? most of our stuff will be down at the same time.
[04:17:23] <ciri> not sure paulej72
[04:17:37] <chromas> host it on tmb's box :D
[04:17:53] <paulej72> point to his VM
[04:18:03] <Bytram> brilliant!
[04:18:17] <chromas> redirect to slashdot
[04:18:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> har. ya point the load balancer to my ip and i'll put up an index.html on my personal server saying "oh noes! shat be broke!"
[04:18:28] <chromas> if only downtime correlated with April 1
[04:18:34] <Bytram> ROFL
[04:18:43] * SpallsHurgenson nominates Bytram to hand-type the responses to all incoming http requests
[04:19:23] * Bytram will just add 'em to the queue and get back to them some day.
[04:19:38] * Bytram thinks it might be within a year or two
[04:20:31] <SpallsHurgenson> well, just keep sending out those keepalives until you are ready :)
[04:20:33] <paulej72> we shoud bump the site downtime article for the next three days
[04:20:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly, yeah
[04:21:24] <chromas> Need a place to insert alerts at the top
[04:21:40] <chromas> maybe in the queue nagger slot
[04:21:57] <paulej72> it is in the site new slashbox
[04:22:05] <paulej72> news
[04:22:38] <juggs> We need a SN fail whale. Keep the www DNS A record on a short TTL and point it to some cheap ass nginx instance with just an image of a bean bleeding or some such. GFX comp is open for the SN Fail Bean!
[04:22:42] <chromas> You could paint it red, but that wouldn't stand out much :D
[04:22:54] <Bytram> I see it, now... but there's the old time zone issue, too.
[04:22:58] <paulej72> <alert>Punch the Monkey to win a Prize</alert>
[04:23:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, make one up and i'll host it
[04:23:20] <Bytram> paulej72: you forgot the <marquee> tag
[04:23:25] <juggs> TMB, I am no artist
[04:23:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> got an apache server doing fuck all on this box and it's outside world accessible
[04:23:56] <juggs> That works if our TTL is low enough
[04:24:08] * juggs checks
[04:24:18] <chromas> that's why you redirect soylentnews.org to www.soylentnews.org
[04:24:23] <paulej72> <h1>SolyentNews down for maintenance</h1>
[04:24:26] <chromas> then you only need change www
[04:24:27] * Bytram polka dots
[04:24:46] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[04:24:46] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03SN article: Site Downtime on Saturday March 7 04(8 comments)
[04:24:55] <paulej72> put a head and body and there you go
[04:25:00] <chromas> could change the logo too. "Soylent NEWS ...is going down for maintenance"
[04:25:30] <paulej72> chromas: yes i guess we could
[04:25:59] <Bytram> I just noticed that hydrogen and beryllium are shceduled to go donw on the 8th instead of the 7th?
[04:26:16] <Bytram> (at least in the article we posted)
[04:26:44] <juggs> TMB, of course that would mean you would be able to capture all those login attempts to SN with your fail bean page. Not sure that's going to sit well.
[04:26:50] <paulej72> does not matter as the “site” will be down on the 7th
[04:26:55] <juggs> weee - disconnect
[04:27:17] <paulej72> llet them time out.
[04:28:03] <Bytram> paulej72: so are hydrogen and beryllium going down on the 7th or the 8th?
[04:28:14] <paulej72> 8th
[04:28:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, i can tweak the live code to email me everyone's login deets as they try to login if i want anyway. security vs the admin is no security at all.
[04:28:44] <Bytram> just checking to make sure it wasnt a cute-and-past error
[04:29:08] * chromas cut-and-pastes Bytram's "e"
[04:29:15] <paulej72> I cut the whole block at once
[04:29:21] * Bytram likes it better his way
[04:29:33] <chromas> wordplay++
[04:29:33] <Bender> karma - wordplay: 1
[04:29:53] <Bytram> Wit is intellect, dancing
[04:30:08] * Bytram kicks up his heels
[04:30:37] * SpallsHurgenson accidentally pushes the wrong button. "Why do I even HAVE that button?"
[04:30:57] <juggs> paulej72, I agree. /me bangs head against resilience and financial practicality. I might have to throw some chairs around, stand back.
[04:30:59] <chromas> Was it the button of knowledge of good and evil?
[04:31:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, of knowledge of law and chaos
[04:31:42] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, how you going to get that onto live unless pj is complicit?
[04:31:58] <Bytram> the joys of utc... so nitrogen is scheduled for 2015-03-07 @ 03:00 UTC which is(?) 2015-03-06 at 22:00 EST
[04:32:10] <Bytram> or did I mess that up?
[04:32:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, i can get on live right now. i just try to leave the bouncing of it to him.
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[04:32:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> on account of he's poked it with more sticks than i have.
[04:33:05] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, this is probably something we should bear in mind if we ever do get more developers
[04:33:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's his and NC's attempt to get me to be a proper sysadmin as well as a dev. i'm resisting as much as i can manage.
[04:33:52] <chromas> institute a bring-your-own-stick policy?
[04:34:02] * Bytram just speaks softly
[04:34:10] <paulej72> Bytram: no you got the math right. That means the sit will be down 22:00 firday
[04:34:20] <paulej72> for us in EST
[04:34:23] * chromas suspects Bytram is overcompensating
[04:34:48] <Bytram> paulej72: thanks! I still struggle with converting to/from utc
[04:35:01] <paulej72> i was thinking 3 pm utc which would be 10 am est
[04:35:03] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, DevOps! It's all the rage... you'll love it
[04:35:39] <Bytram> he'd have to change his nick to TheMightySysadmin
[04:36:06] <juggs> noo... TheMightyEverythingWrangler
[04:36:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't mind tweakin sumpin here or there but if it breaks i want it to be someone else's fault. sysadmining is too much like my day job for the past... shit that's a lot of sysoping...
[04:36:36] <Bytram> well, I just noticed the time and have a full day ahead of me tomorrow.
[04:36:45] <Bytram> gonna call it a night.
[04:36:49] <Bytram> have fun everyone!
[04:36:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> crap, ditto
[04:36:52] <paulej72> yep me too
[04:36:56] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[04:36:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> off i fuck
[04:37:03] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: g'night!
[04:37:17] <Bytram|away> paulej72: ciao!
[04:37:42] <Bytram|away> guten nacht!
[04:37:47] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard++
[04:37:47] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 151
[04:37:49] <Bytram|away> paulej72++
[04:37:49] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 112
[04:37:54] <Bytram|away> juggs++
[04:37:54] <Bender> karma - juggs: 60
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[04:38:44] * chromas drops a pin
[04:41:28] * Imogen reaches over chromas
[04:41:59] * chromas tried to adjust nonchalantly
[04:42:04] <chromas> s/d/s/
[04:42:05] <sedctl> <chromas> tries to adjust nonchalantly
[04:42:26] * Imogen throws up and apologises
[04:42:39] <mrcoolbp> http://imgur.com
[04:42:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Imgur
[04:42:51] * mrcoolbp is terrible at making soybeans
[04:43:19] <juggs> Truth
[04:43:43] <juggs> Take the green pill will do though :D
[04:47:55] <juggs> I can't see it happening for this outage but an SN "Yeh - we know" fail whale system would be great. Which doesn't really work too well with us hacking back on our spending at all :( I shall put it on the "want" list :D
[04:51:34] <mrcoolbp> yeah, I'd like to avoid "...can't find page" or whatever
[04:55:30] <chromas> http://imgur.com
[04:55:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Imgur
[04:57:13] <SpallsHurgenson> ... disturbing
[04:58:09] <juggs> chromas, needs some text along the lines of "We may be down, but we ain't out!" :D
[04:58:42] <chromas> how about a pov of a bean "about to go down on you"
[05:06:13] <juggs> mrcoolbp, I'd hope we could do it on the load balancer. Have the balancer favour servers A and B ie the real site pages, then if they don't respond go to C,D,E or F each of which serve the fail bean - at least one of which not hosted at linode. Hell, put F in Russia or Switzerland.
[05:06:25] <SpallsHurgenson> http://imgur.com
[05:06:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Imgur
[05:06:59] * chromas rofls a copter
[05:07:50] <juggs> On the other hand serving a bean page could break bots:(
[05:08:41] <mrcoolbp> http://imgur.com
[05:08:41] <chromas> more than no page at all?
[05:08:42] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Imgur
[05:09:25] <SpallsHurgenson> give the bean a gun so we know it's still ready to fight :)
[05:09:25] <mrcoolbp> juggs: sounds like the right kind of idea
[05:09:36] <mrcoolbp> Spalls:meh, too tired
[05:09:41] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: you mean plant a gun on it
[05:09:45] <chromas> and some drugs too
[05:09:52] <mrcoolbp> plant? get it???
[05:10:02] <chromas> cool beans
[05:10:02] <SpallsHurgenson> <groan>
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[05:13:49] * mrcoolbp works on the IRC bot story
[05:13:50] <juggs> chromas, depends how the bot is coded. If it is coded to expect an http timeout then fine, but if it gets a bean pic instead which it then tries to process it could break shit. I'm inclined to say "meh" don't scrape the web - shit changes. I'm not sure others would agree.
[05:14:28] <chromas> make a bean.rss for Bender :)
[05:16:16] * SpallsHurgenson seconds the "meh" resolution forwarded by juggs
[05:18:35] * juggs motions "meh" for the vote as the most intelligent thing a CEO has ever uttered. I should be showered in stock options for such wisdom!
[05:20:07] <juggs> Oh wait.... was that your idea...
[05:21:10] <SpallsHurgenson> you'll never be a Real CEO (tm) if you can't claim other people's ideas as your own
[05:21:50] <chromas> and remember, it was your idea to do it
[05:22:00] <juggs> I already did - the back patting was on the way out of the meeting
[05:22:37] * chromas gives juggs a 200% bonus
[05:23:15] <juggs> Heh - I'm worth it
[05:23:33] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs envisioneered the whole thing to help grow the business, after all
[05:24:55] <SpallsHurgenson> he understands these new paradigms and can actualize these processes
[05:26:40] <SpallsHurgenson> he understands the methodology that can leverage these functionalites to fast-track the necessary deliverables
[05:26:41] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, this is true, I was here from the beginning , master minded it all. May not have looked like that to the outsider, but its the new truth. We certainly have synergies we can leverage going forward to implement the new visualisation
[05:27:04] <mrcoolbp> I can vouch for all that
[05:27:11] <mrcoolbp> .op juggs
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[05:27:15] <mrcoolbp> .deop
[05:27:15] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o mrcoolbp] by Imogen
[05:27:15] <juggs> I ave a powerpoint!
[05:27:19] <mrcoolbp> lol
[05:27:19] <ciri> lol damn!
[05:27:28] <SpallsHurgenson> ooooh!
[05:27:35] <juggs> .deop
[05:27:35] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o juggs] by Imogen
[05:27:51] <SpallsHurgenson> but do you have an overly complicated spreadsheet upon which the entire business depends?
[05:30:26] <juggs> No, spreadsheets are for minions. I conceptualize new modes of digital delivery in a virtual space while enabling seamless desk to transit communication. This is utopia that I offer. I have no idea what you need but this is your utopia, trust me, would I lie?
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[05:31:22] <chromas> are these lies actionable?
[05:31:31] * juggs WINS! FATALITY!!
[05:33:32] * juggs pipes in some Mortal Combat midi tunes to distract the masses
[05:33:48] * chromas enters ABACABB
[05:36:06] * juggs jails chromas for perverting the course of ridiculousness. Ridiculousness should never be impeded. Let this serve as a warning to others that may want to derail others from being silly for the sake of it.
[05:36:35] <chromas> Apparently that code was only on the Sega Genesis version
[05:37:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Metamaterials Showcased at the American Physical Society's March Meeting - http://sylnt.us - ismeta
[05:47:22] * juggs jiggles on the way out. Hopefully Imogen will keep you satiated in the meantime :D
[05:47:30] <juggs> toodle pip
[05:57:47] <arti> whoosle blatt
[06:23:02] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:23:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1150
[06:25:56] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:25:56] <Bender> karma - tea: 428
[06:25:57] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:25:57] <Bender> karma - tea: 429
[06:26:02] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[06:26:02] <Bender> karma - emacs: 46
[06:26:03] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[06:26:03] <Bender> karma - emacs: 47
[06:31:12] <crutchy> ~queue
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[06:31:29] <crutchy> damn mysql
[06:32:01] <crutchy> must be a die in the mysql logging stuff
[06:32:51] * crutchy is currently apt-get upgrading for first time in... hmm... over a year
[06:33:06] <crutchy> (on this vm anyway)
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[06:41:05] <mrcoolbp> arti: gotta sleep, but any source for ciri?
[06:42:03] <mrcoolbp> artif: PM me if you have source, we are doing an SN story on irc bots
[06:42:11] <crutchy> derp
[06:42:21] <crutchy> how do i get a pm window up
[06:42:21] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[06:42:33] <JamesNZ> crutchy: /dialog <user>
[06:42:35] * crutchy goes for the chat log
[06:42:39] <crutchy> ah
[06:42:49] <crutchy> JamesNZ++
[06:42:49] <Bender> karma - jamesnz: -16
[06:42:54] <crutchy> !?
[06:42:56] <crutchy> JamesNZ++
[06:42:56] <Bender> karma - jamesnz: -15
[06:42:57] <crutchy> JamesNZ++
[06:42:57] <Bender> karma - jamesnz: -14
[06:42:58] <crutchy> JamesNZ++
[06:42:58] <Bender> karma - jamesnz: -13
[06:43:02] <JamesNZ> <3
[06:43:06] * JamesNZ bows humbly
[06:43:40] <crutchy> hmm. i thought i put ciri's source code in the pm but looks like i didn't
[06:43:48] <crutchy> [[IRC]]
[06:43:50] <exec> 13Contact chat@soylentnews.org if you are interested in working on one of these projects. Also, the IRC Page has information about getting started with IRC, and the IRC vision is worth checking out. 1 Who we are 2 Current Projects 2.1 Chat bot (Python) 2.2 Services (C) 2.3 Documentation 2.4 Misc bots 2.5 IRC Games 3 Dependencies 4 Channels 4.1 Official channels 4.2 Private establishments (unofficial...
[06:43:50] <exec> 13http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/IRC
[06:44:01] <crutchy> for the link :p
[06:44:46] <crutchy> wholly carp! ciri has a few commands in there :p
[06:45:28] <crutchy> i'm sure arti has mentioned ciri's source code before but i can't remember where
[06:55:03] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[06:55:03] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0304SN Submission by DeathMonkey: Poll: Best SN Display Mode
[06:55:08] <crutchy> ^ good idea
[06:55:15] <crutchy> also need one for theme
[06:55:49] <crutchy> chillax++
[06:55:49] <Bender> karma - chillax: 2
[07:02:20] * arti was watching better call saul
[07:19:51] <crutchy> yummy nerdcream
[07:23:03] <crutchy> to make icecream even moar awesomer than it already is... add nerd candy :D
[07:38:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Create Artificial Sunlight Real Enough To Trick the Brain - http://sylnt.us - never-need-to-sleep
[07:39:21] <JamesNZ> sleep++
[07:39:21] <Bender> karma - sleep: 16
[07:39:43] <chromas> !g define:sleep
[07:39:43] <ciri> 785,000,000 results | National Sleep Foundation - Sleep Research & Education @ http://sleepfoundation.org
[07:39:53] <chromas> boo--
[07:39:53] <Bender> karma - boo: 0
[08:17:58] <arti> !dict sleep
[08:18:09] <arti> :|
[08:19:14] <chromas> arti: s/t/k/
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[11:09:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:09:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1151
[11:11:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FTC to Award $25,000 for the Best Honeypot Design to Trap Robocalls - http://sylnt.us - flies-with-honey
[11:18:16] <SirFinkus> best honeypot is probably my landline
[11:25:13] * SirFinkus just tried the spam mod!
[11:25:28] <chromas> was it worth it?
[11:25:38] * chromas dials F for Finkus
[11:25:44] * TheMightyBuzzard goes to see if SirFinkus needs mod-banned
[11:25:51] <SirFinkus> I think so
[11:25:57] * SirFinkus lights up a cigarette
[11:26:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe man
[11:26:41] * TheMightyBuzzard wanted to ban someone
[11:26:52] <SirFinkus> at the very least, it's completely off topic
[11:27:01] <SirFinkus> but I'm sure it's a linkfarm thing
[11:27:11] * chromas wanted to look but apparently SirFinkus' username is something else
[11:27:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's legit
[11:27:23] <chromas> Oh, space
[11:27:25] <SirFinkus> no it isn't
[11:27:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[11:27:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> no i mean the mod is legit
[11:27:43] <SirFinkus> I meant my name wasn't different
[11:27:48] <SirFinkus> but I guess it is
[11:28:02] <chromas> Only slightly. Only slightly
[11:28:42] <chromas> but I'm not sure what I expected to find; the user page doesn't show mods
[11:28:47] * chromas derps
[11:29:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> does if you got uber powah
[11:29:18] * chromas modbombs SirFinkus
[11:29:23] <SirFinkus> thanks
[11:30:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, reminds me, we're prolly getting rid of the "show someone else's comment history" thing on their user page. that was only sposed to show your own unless you're an admin.
[11:30:47] <chromas> you mean where I can see SirFinkus' comments on his page?
[11:30:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[11:31:16] <chromas> slashdot still has that
[11:31:40] <chromas> though they also mix in some of the modding and tagging stuff
[11:31:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> only thing it's really useful for is loading up a mod-bomb on someone.
[11:31:50] <chromas> but I wanna
[11:32:30] <SirFinkus> Aeolian mode best mode
[11:36:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid mornings. i need drugs.
[11:42:04] <SirFinkus> caffeine is pretty neat
[11:42:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> even better with its friend amphetamine
[11:43:16] <SirFinkus> lol
[11:43:16] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[11:44:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i highly recommend catchin adult ADHD. adderall is teh shiz.
[11:44:35] <SirFinkus> so I've heard
[11:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> inexpensive too. ~$45/mo if you only take it in the AM.
[11:45:41] <SirFinkus> I took it back in middle school
[11:46:03] <SirFinkus> stopped because I was losing weight
[11:47:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that's why i asked to be switched back to it despite the initial getting used to it hiccups. my ass could stand to drop a few pounds.
[11:48:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> weight loss is a much preferable side effect to my left eye twitching all the time.
[11:48:29] <SirFinkus> I'm almost underweight, so I don't have a lot of wiggle room
[11:49:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, have you considered the bacon double cheese burger with guacamole and jalapenos? solved my teenaged underweight problem nicely.
[11:50:34] <SirFinkus> I've posted what I eat lol
[11:50:45] <SirFinkus> I just can't eat a lot
[11:50:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> practice makes perfect
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[11:51:38] <SirFinkus> I have a very weak stomach, the buffer between "full" and "throwing up" is like 2 bites
[11:51:41] <SirFinkus> super annoying
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[11:52:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> gah
[11:52:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> that would indeed suck
[11:52:55] <SirFinkus> If I didn't have that problem, I know I'd be fat as fuck though
[11:53:12] <SirFinkus> so it's not all bad
[11:54:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it's good enough for santa, it's good enough for me
[11:55:07] <SirFinkus> I've actually been trying to get into better shape the past few weeks, some muscle would be nice
[11:55:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, will increase your metabolism as well
[11:56:16] <SirFinkus> almost warm enough to take the bike out too
[11:56:28] <SirFinkus> mornings are still a bit cold though
[11:56:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> cardio is all well and good but it'll cause weight loss not gain
[11:57:27] <SirFinkus> I usually put on a little leg muscle during the summer
[11:57:45] <SirFinkus> I don't have a lot of fat to lose anyway, so my weight stays the same
[11:58:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. i used to be able to leg press like 1200lbs back when i was skateboarding
[11:58:23] <SirFinkus> jesus
[11:58:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> once mind you, not repeatedly
[11:59:10] <chromas> SirFinkus: have you considered becoming a model?
[11:59:49] <SirFinkus> I could probably suck my gut in and post for anti-anorexia posters or something
[11:59:55] <SirFinkus> and no, I haven't
[12:00:26] <SirFinkus> my skinnyness detracts from my attractiveness
[12:00:41] <chromas> only if you model as a male
[12:00:55] <SirFinkus> I do have a pretty good tuck
[12:01:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> true, tape that shiz back. the starved 12yo boy look is all the rage for high fashion.
[12:07:51] <paulej72> the starved 12yo boy look is all the rage for high fashion designers. FTFY
[12:08:21] <paulej72> closet pedos
[12:08:42] * TheMightyBuzzard nods sagely
[12:10:07] <paulej72> or else designers really like how the garment looks on the hanger and wants a model to make it look just the same
[12:11:33] <paulej72> fixed up the admin menus to make them not suck so much
[12:11:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> hard to tell. they do have much the same build as a hanger though
[12:11:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool. you get the mod-bomb added as an item?
[12:11:58] <paulej72> yep
[12:12:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> bonus
[12:12:15] <paulej72> now I need to start adding featues to that page
[12:12:28] <paulej72> and make it pretty
[12:12:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:13:56] <paulej72> fuck the snow we were expectin just got here
[12:15:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yerg. ours got done last night. should be clear for the week.
[12:15:16] <paulej72> they just closed NJ state offices, and Princeton Univeristy is on a 1 hour delay openening
[12:15:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah well, no day off for you
[12:15:50] <SirFinkus> clear all week here
[12:16:04] <SirFinkus> ~weather
[12:16:19] <paulej72> If I get ready now and go in, I have less shit to clean off my car. Get it in to the parking garage so it stays clean
[12:16:21] <SirFinkus> :/
[12:17:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[12:18:25] <paulej72> plus I need to work on a laptop for professor that is very unhappy with its current boot issues. Its a Mac with encryption and Active Directory setup, which causes the laptop to freeze upon boot if it was shutdown uncleanly
[12:18:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh fun
[12:19:52] <paulej72> bug in the directory services that has a super secret fix, but I do not have access to it. and it is still MIA for the next OS update.
[12:20:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> weee
[12:22:18] <paulej72> thraffic reporter on radio: road are slick, dirvers are not.
[12:22:57] <paulej72> in response to the amount of accidents on the road this morning
[12:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> good man that. can't beat a little snark in the AM
[12:27:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> blah, saw this and thought they meant pirate movies not ordinary old pirated movies http://torrentfreak.com
[12:27:50] * TheMightyBuzzard is all about a good pirate movie
[12:30:46] <SirFinkus> that stock photos of nachos is shitty
[12:31:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth. i make way better nachos than that
[12:32:31] <SirFinkus> that's the nachos I make if I'm feeling extremely lazy and I don't have all the fixings
[12:32:40] <SirFinkus> it's barely worth it
[12:33:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i never bother unless they're going to weigh in at about 2lbs
[12:33:52] <SirFinkus> minimum for nachos to be good is beans, meat, cheese, and jalepenos
[12:34:12] <SirFinkus> and every chip should have all of the above on it
[12:34:29] <SirFinkus> the ones in the middle should require a fork
[12:34:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. bonus for diced maters n bits o avocado
[12:34:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[12:34:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus++
[12:34:43] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 10
[12:35:04] <SirFinkus> well, that was just the baseline
[12:35:21] <SirFinkus> at that point I'll add whatever is in the fridge
[12:35:44] <SirFinkus> I like olives, pico de gallo, and guacamole
[12:35:55] <SirFinkus> green onions too
[12:36:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a fan of pico.
[12:36:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya n white onions as well
[12:37:27] <SirFinkus> I usually don't use white onions, unless in the pico
[12:37:44] <SirFinkus> in any case, they need to be added after they cook, otherwise they caramelize
[12:38:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, ditto tomatoes
[12:39:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm just not a cilantro fan, so no pico for me
[12:39:17] <SirFinkus> cilantro is awesome though
[12:39:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't dig the flavor unless there's lime n chicken involved
[12:39:54] <SirFinkus> hmm
[12:40:18] <SirFinkus> my dad makes this cilantro garlic shredded chicken, it's the best thing in the world
[12:40:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> does sound good
[12:40:38] <SirFinkus> a little unorthodox for nachos, but it works really well
[12:42:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BlackBerry Experience Suite Will Bring More BB Features to Android, iOS, and Windows - http://sylnt.us - still-in-there-fighting
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[13:11:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, janrinok
[13:12:31] <janrinok> afternoon TheMightyBuzzard - hope you are well?
[13:12:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty good, aside from my coffee cup starting to run low
[13:13:05] <janrinok> Oh, that is quite serious - want to go and refill it?
[13:13:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i shall, yep
[13:20:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[13:21:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> 404 bot not found
[13:22:08] <janrinok> oh, a missing bot.....
[13:22:29] <chromas> ^weather Oklahoma
[13:22:31] <geotti_away> [Oklahoma City, Oklahoma] Partly Cloudy. Temp is -9.7*C but feels like -10*C. Humidity: 69%.
[13:22:48] <janrinok> ^weather Paimpol
[13:22:50] <geotti_away> [Paimpol, France] Clear. Temp is 11.5*C. West wind: 1.1 kph. Humidity: 51%.
[13:22:50] <chromas> geotti_away can fill in
[13:23:16] <janrinok> and it covers more of the world
[13:23:55] <janrinok> hi chromas - you OK today?
[13:23:55] * chromas blames google
[13:24:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> we should really give crutchy an account on staff so he exec quits disappearing all the time
[13:24:11] <chromas> I think so
[13:24:50] <janrinok> you know, I didn't realise that he wasn't already on the staff....?
[13:25:02] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[13:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> we've tried, he just ain't having any of it
[13:25:20] <janrinok> why ever not?
[13:25:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> too smart i suppose
[13:25:33] <chromas> How about a JavaScript mspaint for subscribers to pimp out their subscriber stars
[13:25:34] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[13:25:42] <janrinok> lol - doesn'ty say much for the rest of us...
[13:25:48] <chromas> ciri++
[13:25:48] <Bender> karma - ciri: -33
[13:26:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, i look at javascript like this: it's like fingerpainting with poop; not something you want to be good at.
[13:26:44] <CoolHand> lol
[13:26:45] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[13:26:48] <janrinok> ^weather Saint Brieuc
[13:26:48] <geotti_away> Invalid query. Learn to type, dumbass.
[13:27:00] <janrinok> ^weather SaintBrieuc
[13:27:00] <geotti_away> Invalid query. Learn to type, dumbass.
[13:27:12] <janrinok> Ah, not as bright as I thought it was...
[13:27:25] <janrinok> ^weather Saint_Brieuc
[13:27:26] <geotti_away> Invalid query. Learn to type, dumbass.
[13:27:43] <chromas> needs moar insults
[13:27:43] <janrinok> ^weather St Brieuc
[13:27:43] <geotti_away> Invalid query. Learn to type, dumbass.
[13:28:05] <janrinok> ^weather Lannion
[13:28:06] <geotti_away> [Lannion, France] Clear. Temp is 11*C. WSW wind: 7 kph.
[13:28:52] <janrinok> Well its found 2 out 3 of the big'ish places near me - not big in global terms but more than a rural village
[13:29:05] * chromas gives geotti a °
[13:29:29] <janrinok> ^weather Lannion
[13:29:30] <geotti_away> [Lannion, France] Clear. Temp is 11*C. WSW wind: 7 kph.
[13:34:09] <chromas> When the bot story is published, I should first post a bitch about Foobar Bazbot abandoning SedBot
[13:34:50] <chromas> Also irc I guess
[13:36:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> tis a sad thing, aye
[13:36:17] <janrinok> I'm looking forward to seeing what type of reception that story gets
[13:36:28] <chromas> " Our studies show Market demand for cocaine laced salty water and ointments would be very high indeed."
[13:36:52] <janrinok> wtf?
[13:37:06] <chromas> An ac comment
[13:37:24] <chromas> http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:24] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[13:37:25] <janrinok> I hope that didn't slip through one of our stories....
[13:38:01] <janrinok> ah, not too serious then
[13:39:30] <SirFinkus> cocaine actually would make a good additive to ointments
[13:39:57] <janrinok> but highly controlled by necessity, one would imagine
[13:40:07] <chromas> "numbing agent number five"
[13:40:46] <janrinok> someone would find a way to extract the coke for other uses. If man puts it in there, man will find a way to get it back out
[13:41:09] <SirFinkus> they use it for nasal surgeries
[13:41:39] <chromas> Diet cocaine. Just one felony
[13:41:42] <SirFinkus> decreases bleeding and swelling
[13:41:46] <SirFinkus> and numbs the area
[13:42:07] <janrinok> My wife has a medication that contains morphine - and the hoops that I have to go through each month to pick up another supply are torture in themselves
[13:42:28] <SirFinkus> "SIDE EFFECTS: Dizziness, nausea, nervousness, unusual feelings of well-being, or restlessness may occur."
[13:42:41] <SirFinkus> shit, unusual feelings of well-being sounds great
[13:43:16] <janrinok> I have to account for each individual tablet. If I drop one on the floor, thus rendering it unsuitable for oral use - or so they say, I have to return it to the pharmacy when I want my nect month's supply
[13:43:44] <SirFinkus> fun
[13:43:49] <janrinok> we can't have feelings of well-being, that would never do....
[13:44:34] <chromas> You should become a criminal; it gets easier
[13:44:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> funky, amphetamines are more controlled than opiates here in the US and all i gotta do is show up at the pharmacy with my id every month.
[13:44:37] <paulej72> Princeton closed to non-essetial employees, classes will be held as normal
[13:45:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> you essential?
[13:45:18] <janrinok> er, I need someone to explain that... But hi paulej72
[13:45:33] <paulej72> no
[13:45:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> eggsellent
[13:45:59] <chromas> Who will profess your classes?
[13:46:08] <janrinok> is that 'closed but on full pay' type of closed?
[13:46:17] <paulej72> Princeton does not cancle classes unless it is real bad as most of the sudents are on campus
[13:46:31] <paulej72> I do not teach, so I do not need to drag myself in.
[13:46:38] <SirFinkus> sweet
[13:47:16] * chromas gets the soylent whip and instigates slashing
[13:47:19] <paulej72> Only some food service, building service and maintenace staff are concidered essential
[13:50:19] <paulej72> so I got a shower for no reason
[13:50:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab paulej72
[13:50:41] <Bender> Added quote 403
[13:51:36] <paulej72> janrinok: yes we get paid as normal, NJ govenor call a state of emergency and Princeton now normally closes when this happens.
[13:51:40] <janrinok> ah, the differences between English and American English... Slashing can be used to refer to urination. Soylent whip sounds like a creamy desert of some description. Chromas' comment has fetish undertones!
[13:52:07] <janrinok> paulej72: I assume this is weather related?
[13:52:16] <paulej72> doesn’t all of chromas’ comments have fettish undertones
[13:52:33] <chromas> And harmonics
[13:56:28] <paulej72> ok I should make some coffee now that I am not going to work
[13:57:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's like saying "okay, i should breathe air now that i'm awake"
[13:57:20] <janrinok> and put on some comfy clothes, play loud music, and generally feel good about the world
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[13:58:44] <paulej72> running low on coffee grounds
[13:59:12] <janrinok> look in the bin - there are often some in there
[13:59:18] <paulej72> but I normally only make a pot a week, as i normally get my coffee at work
[14:00:01] <paulej72> and I am at my parents every other weekend on average
[14:01:15] <janrinok> ...look in their bin?
[14:01:45] <chromas> Sneak into work just for the coffee service
[14:01:48] <paulej72> open the blinds to watch the snow fall on the trees. It loos so pretty
[14:02:09] <janrinok> all this, and getting paid too
[14:02:12] <paulej72> chromas: I would but that would mean I would get my feet wet
[14:03:12] <chromas> ciri++
[14:03:12] <Bender> karma - ciri: -32
[14:04:19] <paulej72> what is nice I no longer have to shovel snow snice I moved into my new place
[14:10:57] * TheMightyBuzzard ain't shoveling shit. fuck the snowlice.
[14:13:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mechanism Behind Most Common Form of Inherited Alzheimer's Disease Revealed - http://sylnt.us - I've-forgotten-what-I-was-going-to-write
[14:17:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.nationalreview.com
[14:17:51] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03National Review
[14:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i does love me some quality insanity
[14:21:13] <janrinok> its obviously skewed by reporting - but you do seem to have more than your fair share of whacko nutcases
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[14:21:27] <janrinok> hi SirFinkus
[14:21:39] <SirFinkus> morning janrinok
[14:21:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> source aside, that's some insano shit to say
[14:21:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> here's more fun too: https://www.techdirt.com
[14:21:57] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Comcast Blocks HBO Go From Working On Playstation 4, Won't Coherently Explain Why | Techdirt
[14:26:18] <SirFinkus> I have a few theories...
[14:26:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> it could be bunnies?
[14:27:47] <SirFinkus> it's comcastic®
[14:32:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, who wants to be an editor? speak up, janrinok and n1 needs some minions to keep Subsentient company.
[14:33:33] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: nurble
[14:34:16] <CoolHand> TheMightyBuzzard: i've thought about it... but not sure what all it involves.. sometimes I have more time to commit than other times also (sometimes hardly any)
[14:35:02] <SirFinkus> too much responsibility for me
[14:35:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ideally, taking submissions, correcting errors in the good ones, and scheduling them to go out every so often through the day.
[14:36:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, how long it take you to stack up half a day's articles if the queue is fairly full?
[14:37:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently not that long. he was only around a couple hours today and was yackin in here most the time.
[14:39:19] <CoolHand> well if I'm an ok candidate, maybe Janrinok could msg me here or in-site and give me a basic rundown.. I would hate to commit to something for which I couldn't fulfill the resposibilities..
[14:39:35] <CoolHand> if there is something wrong with me, then don't worry about it :)
[14:40:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, fair point. are you a hipster or otherwise douchebaggy?
[14:41:20] <CoolHand> well, I try not to be too douchebaggy.. I do have a nice long hipster style beard right now, but not really doing it to be a hipster... :)
[14:41:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> we do make exceptions though if you're really good at your job. i mean we let paulej72 in and he's AN APPLE USER
[14:41:45] <CoolHand> blek!
[14:41:48] <CoolHand> my god man!
[14:42:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know, right? that gets out that our lead dev is a fanboi it could chase all the community off.
[14:43:13] <CoolHand> :)
[14:43:42] <CoolHand> i used to say, well that's better than MS... but now I'm not so sure about that
[14:43:44] <janrinok> and I'm still in here. Its almost 'how long is a piece of string' - there are loads of variables. But 30 minutes per story when you first start to maybe 10-15 minutes after some practice and with a good submission. A bad submission - your guess is as good as mine.
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[14:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Really? I would have figured 5-10m each tops.
[14:44:18] <janrinok> I did 2 and half hours this morning updating the queues
[14:44:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> well unless they're crutchy's subs
[14:44:39] <janrinok> It depends on how much flak you can accept from the community
[14:44:55] <CoolHand> yikes.. will more ppl help that situation? or will too many people just get in each others way?
[14:45:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, so like two minutes for me then. i'm an excellent flack taker.
[14:45:29] <janrinok> the more people the better. 24 eds publishing 1 story each is better than 1 trying to publish 24
[14:46:27] <CoolHand> well, during work days i'm usually on the site quite a bit anyway.. weekends and vacation days will be much harder though... the wifey tries to keep me off the computer then.. :(
[14:46:32] <janrinok> the problem would be that I can only train one person at once - and that takes me away from editing
[14:47:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> subs is pretty much done with training, no?
[14:47:12] <CoolHand> if u want to see if you can find someone with lots of time I can be a backup plan.. :)
[14:48:32] <janrinok> subs has finished training but doesn't seem too enthusiastic. He does a bit of second edit work and has processed a few stories but it hasn't reduced our workload noticeably yet
[14:48:32] <CoolHand> (in case you can't find someone better)
[14:48:45] <janrinok> CoolHand: noted thx
[14:49:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> weekends are largely dead anyway. not much in the way of news usually happens on them. personally i think we put too much out on the weekends.
[14:50:13] <janrinok> the problem is always worse at weekends. We would like to have weekends off but you need at least one experienced ed around somewhere. We already run the stories at a much slower pace than during the week, and you get the weekend invasion of trolls, drunks and those that have nothing better to do in the comments
[14:50:26] <paulej72> yea we could probably cut back more on the weekends
[14:51:02] <janrinok> we have done that twice during the last year - down to 6 stories on one occasion I believe - but there were complaints
[14:52:06] * SirFinkus notes that he should browse more during the weekend
[14:52:45] <janrinok> and n1 works - so he appreciates his weekend downtime more than I. I'm pretty much tied to the house with my private life.
[14:52:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> linode give us day to day traffic graphs?
[14:53:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> be interesting to see how much of a hit we take on weekends
[14:54:01] <janrinok> LamX and I ran it as two eds for over a month last year, but then I had my burn out after things improved.
[14:54:30] * janrinok has been told by the doc not to do that again.... Oooops :)
[14:55:29] <janrinok> but two eds get very tired and then the quality of work falls significantly and so does the tolerance of trolls etc.
[14:56:31] <janrinok> We have several eds who are around on IRC and in the comments who are not editing much, but they probably have personal and/or professional pressures
[14:57:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, like i don't remember the last Az story i saw =P
[15:01:04] <SirFinkus> I'd help, but it's probably too much commitment for me, I'll just submit stories when I see something neat like usual
[15:04:54] <janrinok> The best thing that would help is having a good selection of high quality submissions.
[15:05:18] <janrinok> SirFinkus: any submissions that you can make will be appreciated
[15:06:11] <SirFinkus> I may do a book review, since we haven't had any of those yet afaik
[15:06:57] <SirFinkus> reading "This Idea Must Die: Scientific Theories That Are Blocking Progress"
[15:07:19] <SirFinkus> bunch of eggheads wrote essays about stupid shit in science
[15:07:26] <paulej72> “the book was trash, the binding broke when i opened it”
[15:07:49] <paulej72> oh you want me to read it and make comments on the content
[15:07:52] <SirFinkus> the paperback lord of the rings books used to be awesome
[15:07:55] <SirFinkus> *awful
[15:08:02] <SirFinkus> don't know how "awesome" happened
[15:08:10] <SirFinkus> before the movies
[15:08:22] <SirFinkus> I read the series once and pages started falling out
[15:09:08] <CoolHand> I have a lot of old LOTR paperbacks with no pages falling out..
[15:09:10] <paulej72> that just sucks
[15:09:46] <SirFinkus> idk what years they were, but the Hobbit was black, Fellowship green, Towers blue, and King red
[15:10:44] <SirFinkus> I really should get a nice set
[15:11:02] <SirFinkus> since I read them about once a year
[15:11:16] <CoolHand> I got a couple of hard bound volumes.. one leather and one that came out after the movies started
[15:12:26] <SirFinkus> I have a nice copy of the Simarillian or however you spell it
[15:12:48] <CoolHand> ahh, nice... I should get that too.. just have paperbacks of that
[15:13:16] <SirFinkus> found it a garage sale
[15:13:31] <paulej72> I really need to read that.. I have a copy that is about 15 years old now/
[15:13:45] <paulej72> paperback
[15:13:47] <SirFinkus> I haven't read it, it's like reading a textbook
[15:14:00] <SirFinkus> sometimes I look stuff up in it
[15:14:02] <CoolHand> paulej72: it's a tough read especially the beginning... but there are some GREAT stories later
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[15:14:27] <CoolHand> the battle of Gondolin..... wow :) and Beren and Luthien..
[15:14:28] <CoolHand> :)
[15:14:28] <paulej72> most of my books are paperbacks, and not with me not, in storage
[15:14:59] <SirFinkus> last time I read them I just ripped off the ebook versions
[15:15:14] <paulej72> format shit
[15:15:15] <SirFinkus> fuck you tolkien estate, I've already paid for the books 4-5 times
[15:15:27] <paulej72> shift
[15:15:46] <paulej72> wow what a difference a missing f makes
[15:15:55] <janrinok> uck!
[15:20:56] <SirFinkus> fuck, TheMightyBuzzard baited me into a nachos conversation, and now I want nachos
[15:21:11] <janrinok> hi's sneaky like that
[15:21:15] <janrinok> he's*
[15:21:30] <SirFinkus> it's only a matter of time before I break down and start cooking chicken
[15:21:43] <janrinok> in 2 hours, I have a pizza!
[15:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> any sane man always wants nachos, even when he just ate nachos.
[15:21:56] <SirFinkus> yeah, but now it's in the forefront of my mind
[15:22:11] <janrinok> today is the one day of the week that I don't do any cooking - pizza FTW
[15:22:14] <SirFinkus> most of my mental energy is expended avoiding eating nachos all the time
[15:22:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i will fully take credit for your eventual plate of nachoy-goodness
[15:22:52] <SirFinkus> although I might make chili fries
[15:23:01] <janrinok> SirFinkus: damn, you must really like NACHOS and it must be difficult if people keep mentioning NACHOS, especially when you are trying not to think about NACHOS
[15:23:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> those, like gravy fries, are a valid substitute.
[15:23:19] <SirFinkus> because those are equivalent to nachos, provided you have good chili
[15:24:29] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[15:24:33] <SirFinkus> the ones I made last time
[15:25:05] <janrinok> it looks a bit like a pavement pizza, as we call it...
[15:25:12] <janrinok> but, I'm sure it tastes good
[15:25:17] <SirFinkus> delicious
[15:25:53] <SirFinkus> "neat" nachos or chili fries are among the worst atrocities you can commit
[15:26:39] <janrinok> you've only started me back on imgur - you did that on purpose!
[15:27:04] <SirFinkus> I did no such thing, that was a direct link
[15:27:22] <SirFinkus> you saw imgur and made a conscious decision to visit the main site
[15:27:41] <janrinok> you _wrote_ imgur - its your fault!
[15:27:55] <janrinok> or at least caused it to be printed
[15:28:30] <SirFinkus> oh speaking of pizza
[15:28:41] <SirFinkus> that papa murphey's taco pizza is pretty good
[15:29:00] <janrinok> ah, if only such things existed in France..
[15:30:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably some kind of "cultural contamination" law against it
[15:30:43] <janrinok> yep - savages
[15:32:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, what should we do for pi day?
[15:33:05] <SirFinkus> hmm
[15:33:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> 3/14/15
[15:33:12] <SirFinkus> it is a good one
[15:33:38] <SirFinkus> javascript that makes each letter on the page move around in a circle
[15:33:57] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders a story with nothing but a couple million digits of pi
[15:34:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> or i could make myself a pizza that weighs pi lbs
[15:35:23] <SirFinkus> maybe just dedicate all the stories that day to math stuff
[15:35:32] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: you would have to edit the million digits yourself - I'm not proof reading it!
[15:36:11] <SirFinkus> I don't think everything needs to be news
[15:36:16] * TheMightyBuzzard snickers
[15:36:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> need at least one good math, preferably pi, related story for it though
[15:36:55] <janrinok> SirFinkus: I can assure you - it's not! We get enough comments explaining that stories are more than 1 hour old or something
[15:36:57] <SirFinkus> stuff like this http://plus.maths.org
[15:36:59] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Folding fractions | plus.maths.org
[15:37:06] <SirFinkus> neat math tricks
[15:37:28] <SirFinkus> might take a little planning, but it could be pretty broad, including things like crypto and stuff
[15:37:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[15:39:35] <SirFinkus> I think I have some interesting links regarding math and music theory, probably good enough for a story
[15:40:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool, hunt a mess of em up till monday and we can start queueing the 14th up early
[15:41:31] <SirFinkus> could also do something on prime95
[15:41:37] <SirFinkus> because prime numbers are pretty cool
[15:41:44] <SirFinkus> yeah, I'll see if I can find them
[15:43:39] <SirFinkus> there should be a PI story too, but idk what that would be
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[15:46:56] <SirFinkus> maybe a numberphile video or something, he probably has dozens on pi
[15:48:49] <swiss> CoolHand: that'll teach you for challenging me in combat
[16:08:06] <SirFinkus> no nachis, but I do have a fish sandwich
[16:08:12] <SirFinkus> that'll do
[16:08:29] <SirFinkus> but now I'm watching nunberphile videos
[16:12:07] <CoolHand> swiss: can't win them all.. :)
[16:18:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> FISH SANDWICH?!
[16:19:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> that is not a valid substitute for nachos
[16:19:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus--
[16:19:13] <Bender> karma - sirfinkus: 9
[16:19:26] <SirFinkus> I know, but it was there
[16:19:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, well that's another matter entirely then
[16:19:43] <SirFinkus> I didn't have jalepenos anyway
[16:19:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> lazy++
[16:19:45] <Bender> karma - lazy: 9
[16:19:52] <SirFinkus> so it wasn't worth it
[16:19:56] <SirFinkus> I explored the option
[16:26:01] <SirFinkus> I feel like nachos without jalepenos would be worse than no nachos at all
[16:32:15] <SirFinkus> "The sun never sets on the Kobachian empire"
[16:32:19] <SirFinkus> apparently, it does
[17:10:33] * midacre hearts extension methods
[17:11:58] * TheMightyBuzzard ♥s naps
[17:12:47] <midacre> string searchTerm = "soylent news"; string[] results = searchTerm.GoogleMe();
[17:13:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, handy i spose
[17:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> no huge difference from a regular function though
[17:14:01] <midacre> i like my main loop to be as readable as a bedtime story
[17:14:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> GoogleMe(searchTerm) takes one less character even
[17:15:27] <midacre> syntax sugar
[17:16:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> what can i say, i'm old fashioned. dig my functions.
[17:16:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> really it's six of one or half a dozen of the other though i suppose.
[17:20:05] <midacre> i get sick of doing things the same old ways
[17:20:35] <midacre> granted - thats the path of least resistance
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[17:22:19] <midacre> on another topic - what's up with systemd?
[17:22:37] <SirFinkus> oh boy
[17:22:53] * midacre snickers
[17:26:22] <midacre> s/systemd/Bob/
[17:26:55] <midacre> is that offline or did i do it wrong
[17:27:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks offline
[17:27:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea which one of them does it these days though. we've went through several
[17:32:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, it's that time again
[17:32:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[17:32:25] <Bender> karma - naps: 22
[17:41:59] <SirFinkus> sounds like a good idea
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[18:42:00] <paulej72> tired now, I had to clean the 6” of snow off my car and move to a differnt spot so they could clean the parking lot
[18:42:35] <paulej72> we are still expecting another 3”
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[20:49:28] <mrcoolbp_wrk> paulej72: I guess there's some problem with the times on the "site downtime" story
[20:49:40] <mrcoolbp_wrk> paulej72: martyb called me on my cell
[20:50:00] <mrcoolbp_wrk> paulej72: I'm at work, I may be able to assist from here, but I'm kinda swamped right now
[20:50:28] <mrcoolbp_wrk> paulej72: not super crucial to fix right this moment, I can take a look when I get home (in 4-5 hours)
[20:50:35] <mrcoolbp_wrk> jsut wanted to give you a heads up
[20:50:50] <paulej72> I fixed it it was my own fault
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[21:11:47] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:11:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1152
[21:13:30] <crutchy> tinkering++
[21:13:30] <Bender> karma - tinkering: 1
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[21:16:09] <crutchy> ~queue
[21:16:13] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 10 - http://sylnt.us
[21:16:21] <crutchy> ~uid
[21:16:22] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5149, owned by wisnoskij
[21:16:57] <n1> https://soylentnews.org
[21:16:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0304SN Submission by Anonymous Coward: Stealing Keys from PCs using a Radio: Cheap Electromagnetic Attacks on Windowed Exponentiation
[21:18:23] * crutchy wonders when the entire electronic banking system will be brought to its knees by hackers
[21:18:59] <crutchy> i guess it could have already and as usual consumers are being kept in the dark
[21:19:00] <n1> maybe it already has
[21:19:02] <n1> heh
[21:19:30] <n1> im sure some people have figured it out
[21:19:43] <n1> why bring the system down when you can make millions/billions from it
[21:20:22] <crutchy> maybe thats why reserve banks are going on a printing spree... covering up enormous losses in 'legal' money supply
[21:20:46] <n1> banks have learned how to 'create' money in various ways
[21:20:54] <n1> a hacker would surely just cut themselves a slice of that
[21:21:09] <crutchy> thank $deity for fractional reserve banking :/
[21:21:19] <n1> heh
[21:21:25] <n1> where would we be without it!
[21:22:29] <n1> got any thoughts about the submission i pasted? it doesnt seem to have been covered elsewhere
[21:22:42] * crutchy opens
[21:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> n1 saw that. exactly the same as something we marked spam as a comment yesterday or so.
[21:23:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm inclined to say trash it if they're going to spam comments with it.
[21:24:01] <crutchy> maybe see if there's anything about it on GRC
[21:24:06] <n1> spammed it several times?
[21:24:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> just the once but it had diddly to do with the topic
[21:24:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> exactly the same post though.
[21:25:39] <crutchy> https://twitter.com
[21:25:40] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Steve Gibson (@GibsonResearch) | Twitter
[21:26:12] <crutchy> erck. that guy isn't much into social media :/
[21:26:24] <crutchy> he knows a lot about security though
[21:26:44] <crutchy> !fight grc vs schneier
[21:26:45] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: grc beats schneier by 36,400,000 to 687,000!
[21:26:54] <crutchy> hmm'
[21:27:33] <crutchy> !fight gibson research vs schneier
[21:27:34] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: gibson research beats schneier by 4,910,000 to 687,000!
[21:27:48] <crutchy> !fight gibson research vs bruce schneier
[21:27:49] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: gibson research beats bruce schneier by 4,910,000 to 509,000!
[21:27:59] <mrcoolbp_wrk> paulej72: awesome, thx
[21:28:02] <crutchy> how could that be!?
[21:28:02] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[21:29:09] <crutchy> !fight Bruce Schneier vs Chuck Norris
[21:29:10] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: Chuck Norris beats Bruce Schneier by 28,400,000 to 509,000!
[21:29:32] <crutchy> !fight Google vs Chuck Norris
[21:29:33] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: Google beats Chuck Norris by 7,540,000,000 to 28,400,000!
[21:30:11] <crutchy> yeah but each one of chuck norris' results can belt the crap outta 1000 google results!
[21:33:27] <crutchy> work--
[21:33:27] <Bender> karma - work: -12
[21:33:36] <crutchy> tgif++
[21:33:36] <Bender> karma - tgif: 3
[21:34:34] <chromas> !fight Steve Gibson vs Bruce Schneier
[21:34:35] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: Steve Gibson beats Bruce Schneier by 49,600,000 to 509,000!
[21:34:53] <chromas> Probably more complaints
[21:49:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What a Lot of Bots We've Got - http://sylnt.us - naught-brought-better-bots
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[22:24:31] <paulej72> naps are nice
[22:27:46] <chromas> aw, we should've setup a systemd bot for the bot story
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[22:38:20] <chromas> https://www.ftc.gov
[22:38:21] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Robocalls: Humanity Strikes Back | Federal Trade Commission
[23:03:08] <paulej72> nor sure if we could have coded a systemd bot that would have forced all other bots to load from it and send all logs to it
[23:03:43] <chromas> or make a bot out of systemd units
[23:07:04] <paulej72> looks like the snow stopped here
[23:07:14] <paulej72> about 8” total
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[23:16:55] <chromas> aw, I just found that link's story already posted
[23:16:57] * chromas is slooow
[23:20:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Yahoo and Alibaba: Joined at the Balance Sheet - http://sylnt.us - where-is-the-den-of-forty-thieves?
[23:44:14] <paulej72> removed the rest of the snow from my car. Should be ready for work tomorrow.
[23:45:16] * chromas enqueues moar snow for paulej72
[23:46:26] <paulej72> when i frist went out earlier there was 6” we got about 2” more that I needed to clean off. Rather do that in my junk clothes rahter than my work ones
[23:46:54] <paulej72> the snow has stopped, and should be done for this storm