#Soylent | Logs for 2015-03-04

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[00:15:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BPA Exposure Linked to Autism Spectrum Disorder, Study Reports - http://sylnt.us - Life-is-only-good-as-the-Liver
[00:22:31] <arti> ITS IN THE PLASTIC!!!!
[00:23:57] <paulej72> looks like its time to divest in them plastics
[00:39:52] -!- SpallsHurgenson [SpallsHurgenson!~SpallsHur@Soylent/Users/656/SpallsHurgenson] has joined #Soylent
[00:44:19] <SpallsHurgenson> Happy National Pancake Day everyone! May your day be drenched in all natural maple syrup and slippery with hot melted butter!
[00:45:39] <\windows\system32> !fight pancake vs hotcake
[00:45:40] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: pancake beats hotcake by 60,300,000 to 617,000!
[00:45:46] <\windows\system32> !fight pancake vs flapjack
[00:45:47] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: pancake beats flapjack by 60,300,000 to 1,020,000!
[00:46:02] <\windows\system32> !fight griddlecake vs flapjack
[00:46:03] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: flapjack beats griddlecake by 1,020,000 to 129,000!
[00:46:23] <SpallsHurgenson> That's why flapjacks and hotcakes don't get their own Day and pancakes do :)
[00:46:58] <\windows\system32> !fight pancake vs waffle
[00:46:59] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: pancake beats waffle by 60,300,000 to 54,700,000!
[00:47:15] <\windows\system32> !fight SpallsHurgenson vs ciri
[00:47:16] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: ciri beats SpallsHurgenson by 20,000,000 to 47,700!
[00:47:55] * SpallsHurgenson is never averse to receiving a stern thrashing from a lady :)
[00:48:59] * SpallsHurgenson has been naughty :)
[00:49:30] <paulej72> mrs butterworth
[00:49:36] <\windows\system32> well then, let the bots get to work
[00:50:31] * Hedonismbot initiates SpallsHurgenson spanking routine
[00:52:44] <SpallsHurgenson> you're no lady!
[00:56:03] * Hedonismbot gives SpallsHurgenson two snaps up in a circle
[00:58:14] <SpallsHurgenson> (geez, google really castrated the search options of its usenet archive :-/)
[00:58:48] <\windows\system32> google should go buy up a search company
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[01:17:26] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, what would google know about search?
[01:29:17] <SpallsHurgenson> next you'll suggest they should offer email or streaming video! Or advertisments, for that matter! ha!
[01:38:03] <arti> their campus seems kinda lifestyle like
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[01:51:36] <midacre> what irc network is this
[01:52:07] <\windows\system32> Soylent
[01:52:24] <midacre> its own thing then?
[01:52:56] <\windows\system32> Yep
[01:53:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, runs on one of our servers. no others in the network.
[01:53:25] <midacre> so, internal relay chat. inside relay chat. in-here-only relay chat.
[01:53:28] <midacre> :)
[01:54:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, been thinking about seeing if anyone in here wanted to set up their own server but we got distracted by something shiny i think
[01:54:10] <arti> i think there would be more riffraff on a big network
[01:54:15] <midacre> is it web only or can i use std irc client?
[01:54:32] <\windows\system32> yep it's all standard
[01:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> irc.soylentnews.org:6697 with ssl, 6667 without
[01:54:57] <midacre> cool thanks! brb
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[01:55:11] <arti> TheMightyBuzzard, another server?
[01:55:28] <arti> to link 'em?
[01:55:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, we talked about it one day then i think EF came in or something and got us distracted.
[01:55:55] <\windows\system32> put one on each vm
[01:55:55] <arti> i'd fire another one up, been a minute since i've setup services
[01:56:11] <\windows\system32> already got services
[01:56:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be fun if you got a good connection
[01:56:20] <arti> baked in?
[01:56:30] <arti> linode good?
[01:56:32] <\windows\system32> if you run more than one instance of services, will they work together?
[01:56:42] <arti> depends on the ircd really
[01:56:46] * \windows\system32 has a decent connection and a running ircd
[01:56:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it's only irc. just as long as you don't lose connection all the time should be fine with any kind of broadband.
[01:57:00] <arti> be kinda cool to get some additional nodes
[01:57:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept when you're downloadin lots of pr0n
[01:57:26] <arti> the vast majority of my bandwidth is entertainment
[01:57:38] <arti> typically through steam or gog
[01:58:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs and paulej72 are the ones really need in on this conversation though. juggs heads irc and pj heads sysadmin.
[01:58:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i haven't set up an irc server since the 90s
[01:59:05] <\windows\system32> arti: s/\w/porn/g
[01:59:05] <sedctl> <\windows\system32> <arti> pornpornpornpornpornpornpornpornporn pornpornpornpornpornpornporn pornpornpornpornporn pornporn pornpornporn
[01:59:08] <arti> lol
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[01:59:17] <arti> kinda like the desudesudesu but not
[01:59:17] <\windows\system32> sedctl--
[01:59:17] <Bender> karma - sedctl: -2
[01:59:28] <midacre> w00t
[01:59:30] <arti> no worries, good to know
[01:59:32] <arti> wb
[01:59:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> which client ya go with?
[01:59:51] <midacre> HexChat
[02:00:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> good call. still under development unlike xchat
[02:00:16] <arti> !decide cool uncool meh
[02:00:16] <ciri> The roll of the dice picks: cool.
[02:00:22] <arti> i think that's a cool choice.
[02:00:41] <midacre> its not bad at all.
[02:01:13] <midacre> clean interface.
[02:01:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i dig it
[02:01:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> we still got some folks here insist on using irssi and such
[02:02:09] <midacre> i use a IRC Explorer on my Win8 tablet. native modern ui client
[02:02:25] <midacre> goes into a tile. etc.
[02:02:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> funkay
[02:03:07] <midacre> its one of about a dozen actually good and useful apps on windows store ;)
[02:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll leave that determination to someone what uses winders. i'm too old n cranky to switch off linux nowadays.
[02:04:56] <midacre> i'm pretty old but i like the new microsoft.
[02:05:08] <n1> how functional are windows 8 tablets in general use and being compatible with 'normal' windows software?
[02:05:44] <midacre> well.
[02:05:46] <midacre> depends.
[02:05:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> me too, for different reasons though. i like that i know diddly about win8+ and can't fix anyone's computer anymore.
[02:06:09] <midacre> holding it in your hand, its pretty hard to do things like word processing
[02:06:21] <midacre> or programming
[02:06:22] <n1> i hate tablets by the way, it's just a work thing.
[02:06:24] <midacre> same thing
[02:06:44] <midacre> the irc client is really not all that useful, because of typing
[02:06:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> bluetooth keyboard maybe
[02:06:56] <n1> i have certain uses for tablets and my nexus 7 doesnt appear to work anymore, so was wondering if a windows tablet would be useful
[02:06:56] <midacre> but its a nice client
[02:07:13] <n1> if i can run some horribe windows only software on it
[02:07:23] <midacre> i have a keyboard cover for my tablet and i do use it, but then its like a not-so-great compact notebook
[02:08:03] <midacre> actually, its as good as any compact notebook . 4GB DDR3, 128Gb ssd flash, 4 core Atom, 2560x1600 10.1" display
[02:08:21] <midacre> Fujitsu Stylistic Q584
[02:09:38] <midacre> i mostly use it as a tablet without the keyboard cover, for things like note taking, stashing stuff in evernote for use later, web browsing, media device. its all excellent for that
[02:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i need more caffeine and desert...
[02:10:25] <n1> more than i'd really want to pay for something with that spec, but it does look nice and can have a nice keyboard
[02:10:33] <midacre> i got this one because of the super sharp display, 4GB ram, real ssd flash. Fujitsu has been making tablets since before they were a thing people wanted
[02:10:46] * SpallsHurgenson banishes all forms of precipitation from TheMightyBuzzard's region
[02:11:11] <n1> yeah, i remember some old ones heh
[02:11:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, shaddup. i'll typo if i wanna typo.
[02:11:37] <SpallsHurgenson> whoa, brownout. am I still here? :)
[02:11:44] <n1> never liked them, had early touch screen phones and hated them, still cant get on with tablets now.
[02:11:48] <midacre> i've had an underpowered tablet, and it sucks - don't want to use it for the frustration. it was pricey but i am as glad i got a powerful tablet as i am i got a powerful PC. things are nice when they are fast
[02:12:20] <n1> i was very impressed with the nexus 7 for the price, got a 2012 when the 2013 just came out, or something.
[02:14:01] <midacre> i don't like using my phone for the things i use the tablet for. screen is too small even the giant ones. 10" is the smallest screen i want to use, but i dont want it to be a phone too
[02:14:24] <n1> mainly as an easy way of having access to a lot of .pdf docs though, was the primary use anyway.
[02:14:47] <n1> i read email on my phone, never send them
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[02:15:09] <midacre> same here.
[02:15:18] <SpallsHurgenson2> apparently I am not still here
[02:15:42] * n1 pokes SpallsHurgenson2
[02:15:45] <midacre> email, sms, other msg svc, starbucks app, thats aboutit :)
[02:16:02] <n1> there is an app for starbucks?
[02:16:12] <n1> shouldn't be surprised i guess..
[02:16:26] <SpallsHurgenson2> winter is being wintery on my power cables
[02:16:46] <midacre> yep. you get free drinks and other offers if you use it
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[02:17:15] <midacre> you can load it with CC or load it with starbucks gift cards
[02:17:52] <midacre> they need to get NFC support going tho
[02:17:59] <n1> i literally havn't been in a starbucks for 10 years now
[02:18:20] <SpallsHurgenson> http://teamcoco.com
[02:18:21] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Mrs. Butterworth - The Movie @ TeamCoco.com
[02:19:33] <n1> not sure about the specifics, but contactless cards are a big thing here now and not a fan of that either
[02:21:46] <n1> that was something, SpallsHurgenson...
[02:22:10] <SpallsHurgenson> it definitely was
[02:24:30] <midacre> oh look another flash video player that doesn't work in PPAPI
[02:25:42] <midacre> we need to fork google. who's with me?
[02:26:10] <SpallsHurgenson> Gnuoogle!
[02:28:57] <midacre> google has become the old microsoft, while microsoft is becoming google when it was new
[02:29:30] <midacre> but i like protobuf
[02:29:51] <SpallsHurgenson> "The son becomes the father, the father the son"
[02:30:11] <midacre> and throws ballmer down the maintenance shaft
[02:30:32] <SpallsHurgenson> was a superman quote, actually. you are kicked out of the nerd collective :)
[02:30:34] <arti> i think it's just a corporate lifecycle thing
[02:31:43] <n1> very few companies survive for that long
[02:31:46] * SpallsHurgenson starts humming "Circle of Life"
[02:32:15] <n1> although i dont know what the average is, but thats probably not really representative either, with the compex nature of mergers and aquisitions
[02:36:02] <SpallsHurgenson> Google is the Son, Microsoft the Father, IBM the great grandfather, Oracle the creepy uncle, Apple the quiet daughter who does better than all of them, Yahoo the drop-out son that nobody talks about, Facebook the annoying neighbor's wife, EA the abusive neighbor husband, Nintendo the strange foreigner living next door and Sony, the creepy guy living in the van parked down the street
[02:36:32] <n1> microsoft and googlr will lose their status eventually, they might still exist but under a 'greater' corporation
[02:37:20] <n1> like your descriptions
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[02:42:54] <RandomGuy> !grab SpallsHurgenson
[02:43:12] <\windows\system32> haha
[02:43:17] <\windows\system32> !grab SpallsHurgenson
[02:43:17] <Bender> Added quote 400
[02:43:33] <\windows\system32> Bender knows you're trying to be tricky
[02:43:44] <SpallsHurgenson> thank you, completely random person who happened to grab that quote! )
[02:43:49] <\windows\system32> but tricks are for chicks, so no go for you
[02:44:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 275
[02:44:05] <Bender> Quote 275 - <crutchy> paulej72 is the butt
[02:44:12] <\windows\system32> !quote butt
[02:44:12] <Bender> Quote 221 - <crutchy> i thought it was a form of greeting to sniff the other person's butt
[02:44:16] <Bender> Also in quotes: 226, 275
[02:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 380
[02:44:17] <Bender> Quote 380 - <SpallsHurgenson> just because I don't wear pants doesn't mean I'm naked
[02:44:24] <\windows\system32> all butt quotes are from crutchy
[02:44:49] <RandomGuy> Stupid iPad client, how do I quit?
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[02:44:57] <\windows\system32> /quit
[02:45:47] <SpallsHurgenson> that randomguy sure was an idiot :)
[02:46:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably wasn't wearing pants either
[02:46:16] <SpallsHurgenson> but he has good taste in quotes :)
[02:46:26] <\windows\system32> it's what we'd expect from someone so close to NY
[02:46:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Light as a Particle and a Wave, Photographic Evidence - http://sylnt.us - smile-please
[02:47:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooooh, physicsy goodness
[02:48:03] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, physics! I don't trust it! They keep saying gravity is the law, but I hold no truck with that sort of thing!
[02:48:10] * SpallsHurgenson floats around the channel
[02:49:14] <\windows\system32> but due to lack of physics, you go through the walls instead of bouncing
[02:49:46] <SpallsHurgenson> Wheeee!
[02:53:49] <midacre> heh. he said emission.
[02:56:00] <\windows\system32> midacre: s/s(a)i/h\1/
[02:56:00] <sedctl> <\windows\system32> <midacre> heh. he had emission.
[02:58:37] <midacre> sedctl: s/system32/syswow64/
[02:58:37] <sedctl> <midacre> <sedctl> <\windows\syswow64> <midacre> heh. he had emission.
[02:59:58] <\windows\system32> s/.*/💩/
[02:59:58] <sedctl> <\windows\system32> 💩
[03:00:46] <midacre> alas i lack that character
[03:01:32] <\windows\system32> [this is the end of the world as we know it]
[03:01:43] <SpallsHurgenson> how odd, I feel fine
[03:02:27] <\windows\system32> you'll feel it next week after the next batch of windows updates
[03:03:05] <midacre> at least it gets updates
[03:06:26] <\windows\system32> speaking of which
[03:06:39] * \windows\system32 acquires 136 package updates
[03:13:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, wtf is CSI Cyber and why have i not heard of it before now?
[03:14:15] <\windows\system32> It was mentioned the other day
[03:14:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> we ran a story on it or in here?
[03:14:47] <\windows\system32> here
[03:15:04] <\windows\system32> thybercrimeth
[03:15:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh good. that makes sense. i never pay attention to the nonsense in here really
[03:15:24] <\windows\system32> We have the best nonsense
[03:16:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm gonna watch it but if it leaves me butthurt ima come back and kick you for it, chromas. gotta have someone to blame.
[03:17:05] <\windows\system32> chromas-- # turdburgler extraordinaire
[03:17:05] <Bender> karma - chromas: 69
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[03:17:35] <\windows\system32> there goes the neighborhood
[03:18:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> tea+-
[03:19:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> it gets the minus cause it's tea. it gets the plus cause i'm drinking tea.
[03:19:32] <\windows\system32> need Bender to calculate that
[03:19:55] <\windows\system32> could be a shortcut to !karma tea
[03:20:00] <\windows\system32> !karma tea
[03:20:00] <Bender> karma of tea is 427
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[03:23:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, Bytram
[03:23:33] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[03:23:46] * Bytram just opened pandora's box :/
[03:24:07] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[03:24:07] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by martyb (76)
[03:24:30] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: oh, and Hi!
[03:25:56] <Bytram> look at the very bottom of that comment. When I used named character entities in a URL, they do not appear in the bracketed Domain Name that is displayed back to the user for confirmation.
[03:26:16] <Bytram> i.e.:
[03:26:17] <Bytram> http://.example.com [example.com]
[03:26:17] <Bytram> http://xmpl.cm [xmpl.cm]
[03:26:38] <arti> undocumented feature
[03:27:39] <Bytram> arti: I appreciate the sentiment, but now that it is on the site... it kind of *is* documented, now. :/
[03:28:02] <arti> ugh i hate facts
[03:28:14] <arti> in my opinion...
[03:28:16] <Bytram> "Just the fax, ma'am"
[03:28:21] <arti> ;)
[03:28:25] <Bytram> LOL!
[03:28:43] <arti> Bytram++
[03:28:43] <Bender> karma - bytram: 44
[03:28:44] * Bytram wasn't sure if you'd catch that obscure reference ot a golden oldie TV show
[03:28:51] <arti> dragnet
[03:29:06] <Bytram> Dum da dum dum dummmmm!
[03:29:26] <Bytram> Officer Joe Friday and who was that other guy?
[03:29:28] <arti> i liked the one with hanks and akroyd
[03:29:31] <arti> ackroyd
[03:29:39] * Bytram doesn't remember that one
[03:29:42] <arti> oh dude
[03:29:48] <Bytram> TV series?
[03:29:50] <arti> People Against Goodness And Normalcy
[03:29:58] <Bytram> movie?
[03:29:59] <arti> 80s movie
[03:30:08] <Bytram> ah! that's why.
[03:30:16] <arti> do you watch series exclusively?
[03:30:36] <Bytram> taking a couple hours out of my day to watch a day seems to be too much of a waste of time.
[03:30:46] <arti> ...wat
[03:30:58] <arti> i watch my days in real time
[03:31:28] <Bytram> I've watched, maybe, 12 hours of TV over the past 2 years -- and that includes two superbowls and two *major* blizzards where I was trying to see if I needed to go in to work.
[03:31:50] <arti> "taking a couple hours out of my day to watch a day"
[03:32:04] <Bytram> I did treat myself to use a gift card a month or so ago and saw 'The Imitation Game' and throughly enjoyed it.
[03:32:24] <arti> i enjoy a few shows, but typically i've been more interested in reading or learning things
[03:32:25] <Bytram> oh, to watch a movie ..
[03:32:44] <Bytram> or just sit in front of the tv... either way there's too much stuff I'd rather be *doing*
[03:32:49] <arti> i like passive entertainment when i'm beat, haven't been in much of a show mood recently, watched first episode of house of cards.
[03:32:54] <arti> new season
[03:32:57] * arti nods
[03:33:05] <Bytram> it's on cable, right?
[03:33:06] <arti> plenty of content there, i used to enjoy gaming a lot more
[03:33:17] * arti has a cable internet connection
[03:33:25] <arti> so yes, i get it on cable ;)
[03:33:27] <Bytram> given how little I watch TV, it's not worth my investing in it
[03:33:49] * arti shrugs
[03:33:59] <arti> do what you do! do you watch TED talks?
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[03:34:19] <arti> welcome humble servant of humanity
[03:34:32] * arti points to the biscuit table
[03:34:34] <Bytram> nope
[03:34:35] <arti> offerings from the devs
[03:34:50] <arti> do you know any foreign languages?
[03:35:10] <Bytram> I tether an old phone to get on-line -- get EDGE speeds -- tops out at about 60KB/sec.
[03:35:30] <Bytram> Ich sprechen Deutsche
[03:36:11] <Bytram> and I try to learn how to say hello,thank-you, you're welcome, and good-bye from each person who speaks another language that I meet.
[03:36:27] <Bytram> to varying extents, I can manage that in about a dozen languages.
[03:36:37] <arti> sehr gut, scope out italki.com great spot to practice
[03:37:10] <Bytram> some are 'it's on the tip of my tongue......" but when I hear it, it's like 'oh yeah, hurgle gurgle' and I can say it right back at 'em
[03:37:25] * arti nods
[03:37:40] <Bytram> nein, est ist so schwer jetz fur mich.
[03:37:51] <Frojack> I just posted breaking news. Can someone tap an editor on the shoulder?
[03:38:02] <Bytram> ich habe nur drei jahren in unsere art gymnasium gestudiert...
[03:38:05] * TheMightyBuzzard eyes Bytram
[03:38:08] <arti> are prices falling at walmart again?
[03:38:13] <Bytram> es wahr zeit 1978
[03:38:20] <arti> wie viele jahren?
[03:38:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can do edity stuff, can't ya Bytram?
[03:38:34] * Bytram is not looking foward to testing all that again, believe you me!
[03:38:42] <arti> art ist kunst :D
[03:38:43] <Bytram> what's up?
[03:38:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ^^ re Frojack
[03:39:29] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: that's weird... you just changed colors on HexChat!
[03:39:32] <arti> bbiab
[03:39:37] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:39:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i got mad chameleon powah
[03:40:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: anyway, I don't understand.... what's up with Frojack
[03:40:04] <Frojack> Another security vulnerability in almost all smartphones.
[03:40:06] <Bytram> did he reply to my comment?
[03:40:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, he just asked if an editor could handle some breaking news
[03:40:34] * TheMightyBuzzard checks Bytram's glasses
[03:41:16] <Bytram> has he submitted it as a story?
[03:41:22] * Bytram goes to check the sub queueu
[03:41:29] * TheMightyBuzzard headdesks
[03:41:41] <Bytram> k, I see it htere.
[03:42:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like you and n1 both on it
[03:42:57] <Bytram> nod mod
[03:43:19] <n1> Frojack, will put story up in a few minutes
[03:43:26] <Frojack> Cool.
[03:43:38] <n1> or Bytram, someone will!
[03:43:50] <Bytram> yuppers!
[03:43:59] <Frojack> Ahem... Not to be queue jumping or anything.
[03:44:57] <Bytram> np, we'll just smack ya back later. ;)
[03:45:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> go for it. breaking news ain't something we often get.
[03:46:30] <n1> not having editor on 24/7 makes it hard to keep up with breaking news
[03:46:44] <n1> and the general process of having submissions
[03:46:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, remind me bout yer idea again later cause i'm gonna forget it before the next RFC with all the other stuff going on.
[03:46:55] <Bytram> k
[03:48:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, what gets me is people are like "what're you wasting dev time on this for?" when moderation changes are generally the absolute easiest things in the world to do. i could put all of those in in a normal 4-5 hour morning most likely.
[03:48:28] <SpallsHurgenson> why would I want to read broken news?
[03:48:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, goes with your broken brain
[03:49:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> Frojack, be out in about 5m
[03:49:29] <SpallsHurgenson> its not broken, its vintage!
[03:49:34] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: don't forget about my suggestion on mod points
[03:49:34] <Bytram> =)
[03:49:57] <Bytram> story should go live in a couple minutes
[03:50:12] * TheMightyBuzzard smacks Bytram
[03:50:16] <Bytram> LOL!
[03:50:27] * SpallsHurgenson wakes up the the Bender bot, "Get ready, work is headed your way soon"
[03:50:39] <Bytram> afk bbiab
[03:50:54] * juggs plugs Bender in to charge
[03:51:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be up to 15m for the rss feed to get updated then up to another 20 for him to output it to twitter
[03:51:41] -!- Frojack has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
[03:51:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> be glad when we get off timed update rss feeds and get them dynamic.
[03:51:42] <ciri> when you coming back. miss ya already! ;) TheMightyBuzzard
[03:51:56] <_> ciri++
[03:51:56] <Bender> karma - ciri: -33
[03:51:56] <juggs> Race to see whether it pops up in #rss-bot or here first :D
[03:52:03] <SpallsHurgenson> that's okay, I can spend the next 35 minutes just staring blankly at IRC :)
[03:52:18] <juggs> same as the last 35 then :D
[03:52:29] <SpallsHurgenson> years :)
[04:03:20] <Bytram> it would have helped if I had hit the 'submit' button after I finished updating the story. :/
[04:03:25] <Bytram> it's now on the front page.
[04:03:58] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, it can't count as breaking newsif its already on slashdot. I mean, once its there even my grandpa knows about it, and he's been dead for ten years :)
[04:04:40] <SpallsHurgenson> (okay, technically /. just reported that freak vulnerablized ssl, but still... :-)
[04:04:52] * Bytram has observed the slashcott since it started back in Feb of last year.
[04:05:48] <SpallsHurgenson> point still remains, by the time slashdot reports it, its not breaking news. :)
[04:05:59] <n1> its 7 hours old
[04:06:15] <SpallsHurgenson> ancient, I tell you!
[04:06:16] <juggs> Seems quick enough to me :D
[04:06:24] <Bytram> juggs: hiya!
[04:06:36] <juggs> o/ hola Bytram
[04:06:44] <Bytram> which reminds me...
[04:06:50] <juggs> uh oh
[04:06:57] <Bytram> we've got this nice rss feed in IRC: #rss-bot
[04:07:10] <Bytram> I don't know enough javascript to do it myself
[04:07:11] <SpallsHurgenson> sounds like the start of something the mafia would say
[04:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm?
[04:07:30] <SpallsHurgenson> "you gots this really nice rss feed on IRC... be a shame if somethin' happened to it!"
[04:07:57] <Bytram> but there should be a way to have a web page take that in (maybe with ajax or something from the log of it) and aloow a user to select records to hide/show and isolate all stories pertaining to $foo
[04:08:26] <Bytram> for lack of a better description, use a frameset to list the feed in, say, the top pane...
[04:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you write the tagging code for it and welcome to it
[04:09:05] <Bytram> and then have two sub-panes. left hand pane for viewing the content from the rss-feed's link and another pane for formulating a story submission.
[04:09:09] <juggs> maybe easier if Regurgitator wrote to some standard database rather than its own flat file thing
[04:09:37] <Bytram> interesting
[04:09:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we could host it on helium and put it in mysql
[04:09:56] <Bytram> very interesting!
[04:10:02] <juggs> but - the horrors! Javascript!!
[04:10:28] <Bytram> for example, I might want to hide all HackerNews entries
[04:10:39] <Bytram> then ignore, say, physorg
[04:10:54] <Bytram> from what I then see, I notice a kewword in some breaking story...
[04:11:00] <juggs> it's a flat file per feed, I'm sure it would be possible to write a parser to dump them into sql
[04:11:16] <Bytram> then have it show only rss-entries which contain a keyword or match a reg-exp
[04:12:00] <Bytram> now with only a few entries displayed, review the stories, select some salient (see what I did there?) paragraphs, and presto!
[04:12:07] <Bytram> topical and timely story submissions
[04:13:00] <n1> time to sleep. laters all
[04:13:07] <juggs> Interesting. Been ages since I did anything with js / ajax
[04:13:14] <juggs> night n1
[04:13:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite nick
[04:13:16] <ciri> nitty nite! TheMightyBuzzard
[04:13:31] <Bytram> awhile ago, I got some help from stderr who wrote something similar for me for selecting/hiding/showing HTML table entries
[04:13:45] <Bytram> n1: sleep well, my friend!
[04:13:52] * Bytram never quite got it to work
[04:15:45] <Bytram> this should be good enough, at lest for starters: date/time stamp, feed-name, story-URL, headline
[04:15:50] <stderr> I can't even remember what it was anymore...
[04:16:13] <Bytram> stderr: hey there! good to 'see' you!
[04:16:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> think nick got the right idea of it. nite folks.
[04:16:37] <Bytram> hide/show all records that do/DoNot match regexp
[04:16:41] <stderr> I'm not here for much longer. I should go to bed.
[04:16:43] <juggs> nite TMB
[04:17:01] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: and a good night to you!
[04:17:14] <Bytram> I'll pecan in on you on the morrow
[04:17:34] <Bytram> and I think it's time I folow that lead... it's been a long coupla days for me, too.
[04:17:39] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[04:17:57] <Bytram|away> and a cheerful g'night to you all!
[04:18:05] <juggs> Bytram, TCL/Eggdrop that Regurgitator is scripted in has SQL ability - so it can likely be extended to write to db as well as its own format. Then use the sql db for the web stuff
[04:18:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BREAKING: 20 Year old Encryption Regulations Enable FREAK attack - http://sylnt.us - irregulation
[04:18:31] <Bytram|away> landed here 4 seconds before it hit #rss-bot
[04:19:01] <juggs> synchronised bots :D Probably because they live on the same sever :D
[04:19:09] <juggs> server*
[04:19:18] <stderr> I'm out again...
[04:19:33] <Bytram|away> we should remember to restart em all after the server downtime that's coming up.
[04:19:42] <Bytram|away> Bender++
[04:19:42] <Bender> karma - bender: -1
[04:19:46] <Bytram|away> LOL
[04:19:46] <ciri> now that is funny
[04:19:47] <Bytram|away> Bender++
[04:19:47] <Bender> karma - bender: 0
[04:19:48] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, bot conspiracy
[04:20:02] <juggs> Should mostly come up automagically as they are in cron - bound to be something that we missed
[04:20:14] <Bytram|away> swedish cyborg.... bot bot bot bot!
[04:20:23] * Bytram|away channeled the muppet show for that one!
[04:20:30] <Bytram|away> and with that, g'night!
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[04:31:45] * SpallsHurgenson has a cunning plan...
[04:32:01] <_> does it involve linguistics?
[04:32:23] <SpallsHurgenson> no... it involves mounting putty
[04:32:48] <juggs> I suspect that is illegal in some places
[04:33:08] <SpallsHurgenson> it involves motherboards
[04:33:24] <SpallsHurgenson> and motherboards make me happy in a way that is illegal in 19 states and frowned upon in 13 more
[04:33:27] <_> mount them to the walls for maximum decoration?
[04:33:36] <_> Bender: grab juggs
[04:33:36] <Bender> Added quote 401
[04:34:04] * juggs whacks _
[04:34:18] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, he who has no name save for a single underscore!
[04:34:28] * _ underscores the situation
[04:35:16] <SpallsHurgenson> in order to prevent my motherboards from marking up my walls when I mount them, I shall place sheets of paper between board and wall that shall be held to the board with sticky tack. Cunning!
[04:35:51] <SpallsHurgenson> plus it gives me an excuse to play with sticky tack :)
[04:35:58] <SpallsHurgenson> double cunning!
[04:36:12] <juggs> I think there may be a flaw in your plan
[04:36:33] <SpallsHurgenson> no! what can it be?
[04:36:45] <SpallsHurgenson> and can it be solved with the application of more sticky tack?
[04:37:23] <juggs> doesn't sticky tack also have the tendency to mark walls?
[04:38:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't know, but a) even if it does, there would be less tack than little metal pins and b) the tack is being used to mount the paper to the mobo, not the paper to the wall
[04:38:30] <SpallsHurgenson> (I shall be using small brass nails for the actual hanging of the boards)
[04:38:52] <juggs> I see
[04:40:13] <juggs> Could go old school and install a picture rail, then suspend the papered motherboards on wires or chains from said rail - then no tack marks or nail holes in the wall.
[04:43:00] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, but that would require me to get a picture rail, which I do not have. I do have sticky tack and nails however :)
[04:43:43] <_> Need picture frames. Massively oversized ones so you can use those masks people like
[04:44:17] <SpallsHurgenson> none of your suggestions seem to involve the gratitous use of sticky tack
[04:45:38] <SpallsHurgenson> they also seem to require the investment of more time and energy than I wish to indulge on this project :)
[04:45:43] <_> use it in place of the nails
[04:45:52] <_> mount to ceiling
[04:46:02] <_> you've got one now, right?
[04:46:38] <SpallsHurgenson> mostly. it still needs a final sanding, and then the application of primer and paint.
[04:47:41] <juggs> now, if you'd thought ahead, you could have implanted strong magnets at intervals in the walls then used those to affix things! :D
[04:48:32] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd like to pretend that these motherboards will still be functional should I ever need them, so strong magnets are probably something to avoid should I wish to maintain this fantasy :)
[04:49:15] <midacre> aha!
[04:49:19] <JamesNZ> Ignorance is bliss :P
[04:49:42] <_> nah, keeping them around strong magnets immunizes against EMPs later
[04:49:51] <SpallsHurgenson> I am sure that 386/AT motherboard is still as functional today as the day I first mounted it on the wall 20 years ago :)
[04:49:58] * JamesNZ rubs out _
[04:51:15] * _ backspaces
[04:59:47] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: I'm kind of a dick sorry = )
[05:00:58] <juggs> what did you do now mrcoolbp ?
[05:02:15] <SpallsHurgenson> rm -rf / on the servers?
[05:03:19] <juggs> that would be dickish for sure :D
[05:05:55] <SpallsHurgenson> yes but he apologized so its all okay :)
[05:06:03] <mrcoolbp> SpallsHurgenson: oh that's just a regular tuesday morn for me
[05:06:33] * JamesNZ wonders what mrcoolbp gets up to on Monday O_o
[05:07:08] <mrcoolbp> juggs: he said something like "that mrcoolbp guy really chewed me out in the comments" but methinks he meant this: http://soylentnews.org
[05:07:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by mrcoolbp (68)
[05:07:26] <mrcoolbp> JameNZ: easy world-domination
[05:07:36] <mrcoolbp> Wednesdays I brush my 3 cats
[05:07:50] <mrcoolbp> you DON't want to hear about thursday though...
[05:08:17] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, "rm -rf / is used if you have lots of spam, it means 'readmail -reallyfast'." that's just mean :)
[05:10:16] <ar> something something, darwin awards, something
[05:10:29] <ar> but in this case the user isn't given a gun
[05:10:59] <SpallsHurgenson> to be fair, that's more or less how I learned about stuff like that :)
[05:11:52] <SpallsHurgenson> hell, I remember plunking about on my DOS command prompt and going, "format.com? I wonder what that does?".... "Oh."
[05:12:02] <juggs> mrcoolbp, not sure that comment is a "chewing out" - looks like a suggestion to me
[05:12:17] <mrcoolbp> yeah I think it was all in good fun sir.
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[05:17:38] <juggs> mrcoolbp. looks like we are on track with the new beg-o-meter target, bit squeaky perhaps but looks like good news
[05:18:26] <mrcoolbp> near half isn't bad, up to about 210 subscribers
[05:18:33] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I'm eagerly awaiting the CbN replly email, anything else I missed today?
[05:18:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vintage Computing Festival (VCF) - East - http://sylnt.us - getting-my-flared-trousers-and-flowered-shirt-ready
[05:23:46] <juggs> mrcoolbp, will be interesting to see how that goes once pj's new subs code drops and/or we get stripe integration up and running. Reminds me - I need to re-re-visit the subs RFC story comments.
[05:24:04] <juggs> nothing dramatic happened today that I am aware of
[05:24:56] <mrcoolbp> yeah there was a LOT of meta this week
[05:25:59] * mrcoolbp adds link to NVD on breaking encryption vulnerability story
[05:26:13] <juggs> indeed so
[05:26:47] <juggs> not a bad thing though
[05:38:12] <mrcoolbp> no, I just mean I've been trying to keep track of everything
[05:38:42] <juggs> yeh, I know the feeling - it's a lot of reading
[06:31:17] <crutchy> dimsims++
[06:31:17] <Bender> karma - dimsims: 1
[06:32:32] <juggs> Add some wasabi
[06:32:59] <crutchy> chips n dead horse
[06:37:42] <swiss> raspberry pi 2 is so much faster and nicer
[06:37:46] * crutchy wishes for .txt tld
[06:38:57] <crutchy> i'm sure lennart poettering could make it happen
[06:39:06] <crutchy> tldctl start txt
[06:46:03] _ is now known as lennartd
[06:47:25] <juggs> Devuan or something ://
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[07:01:47] <crutchy> http://www.brookings.edu
[07:01:48] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03RSS Feeds | Brookings Institution
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[07:26:00] <lennartd> ciri: do you drop nuggets here too?
[07:26:01] <ciri> Who's General Failure & why's he reading my disk?
[07:26:40] <lennartd> ciri: general protection fault
[07:26:41] <ciri> REALITY.SYS corrupted: Reboot universe? (Y/N/Q)
[07:27:07] <crutchy> Q
[07:27:35] <crutchy> did that start redpill.exe?
[07:27:37] * lennartd wonders what the difference between N and Q is
[07:28:20] <crutchy> 3
[07:28:21] <ciri> 4
[07:28:22] <ciri> 5
[07:28:23] <ciri> 6
[07:28:25] <ciri> 7
[07:28:27] <ciri> 8
[07:28:29] <ciri> 9
[07:28:31] <ciri> 10!
[07:28:37] <JamesNZ> Shut up ciri.
[07:28:40] <JamesNZ> ciri--
[07:28:40] <Bender> karma - ciri: -34
[07:28:40] <ciri> Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue...
[07:28:45] <lennartd> seems less exclamatory than before
[07:28:50] <crutchy> yay! ciri is retarded again :D
[07:29:02] <JamesNZ> Gah, now I'm tempted enter an 11 digit prime :P
[07:29:18] <crutchy> ciri: 42
[07:29:18] <ciri> Shell to DOS... Come in DOS, do you copy? Shell to DOS...
[07:29:19] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Was she... smart?
[07:29:53] * crutchy picks up the shell phone but all he hears is the ocean
[07:30:36] JamesNZ is now known as Forrest
[07:30:45] lennartd is now known as JamesNZ
[07:30:56] JamesNZ is now known as \-
[07:30:57] <Forrest> Oi!
[07:32:00] Forrest is now known as RabidKiwi
[07:32:27] <\-> ciri: kiwis are aussies in denial
[07:32:27] <ciri> Southern DOS: Y'all reckon? (Yep/Nope)
[07:32:58] * RabidKiwi plonks \- into A WORLD OF PAIN
[07:33:27] <\-> ciri: I guess that makes char(7) a southern belle
[07:33:27] <ciri> I can see clearly now, the brain is gone...
[07:33:55] <RabidKiwi> ciri: Why do you prefix your messages with a space?
[07:33:55] <ciri> A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking.
[07:34:07] * \- walks around touching everything
[07:35:24] \- is now known as \
[07:35:38] * \ escapes
[07:35:50] <crutchy> slash lives!
[07:36:37] <crutchy> ~queue
[07:36:42] <juggs> still playing guitar?
[07:36:57] <\> / isn't real
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[07:38:25] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 11 - http://sylnt.us
[07:38:43] * juggs realises the anzacs upside downey people have invaded and goes for a lie up / down. Wait... isn't the world flat?
[07:39:09] <crutchy> we walk on the other side of the flat
[07:39:12] <\> yup; it's a disc
[07:39:18] <\> or an infinite plane
[07:39:27] * RabidKiwi casually observes juggs' feet
[07:39:27] <crutchy> on 'side B'
[07:39:56] <\> let's just set the record straight here, so it doesn't warp
[07:41:09] <crutchy> into hyperspace
[07:41:47] <crutchy> wiperctl scrape klingons
[07:44:10] <crutchy> made a funky little addition to my work wiki today. if someone puts <email>myaddress@work.com</email> the app will email that address if there's a change to the page. it was a only half hour hack, but its easier to make custom tags than build new UI features
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[07:50:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Postmortem Brain Slices Can be “Read” to Determine How a Mouse was Trained - http://sylnt.us - don't-try-this-at-home,-kids
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[08:15:21] <chromas> gasp!
[08:15:44] <arti> node will be shutdown sometime in a day
[08:15:56] <chromas> oh is ciri on linode as well?
[08:16:02] <chromas> but not tama
[08:17:13] <arti> yeah
[08:17:40] <arti> i'll be away for a bit too while they do maintenance
[08:17:49] <arti> still pretty good uptime :D
[08:18:06] <chromas> yeah
[08:18:20] <chromas> hm, I thought vms could be moved around while running
[08:23:49] <arti> probably, ~shrug~ last time it was down was a hd replacement
[08:28:53] <crutchy> my home server has pretty good uptime. its just an ex-work dell vostro
[08:29:46] <crutchy> i turn it off on odd occasions but it hasn't failed (yet)
[08:30:30] <chromas> we should all pool our servers for a SoylentIRC net :D
[08:30:57] <crutchy> 19:30:46 up 18 days, 22:52, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[08:31:28] <crutchy> hmm. nothing to shit in the shower over
[08:31:47] <crutchy> actually that might have been around the time of that big storm when i shut everything down
[08:32:42] <crutchy> chromas, using custom built ircd
[08:33:18] <chromas> :D
[08:33:36] <crutchy> if xlefay were still around we might have already been using a sublight ircd
[08:33:54] * chromas donkeypunches kdeconnect for not doing anything
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[10:53:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mobile World Congress 2015 Roundup - http://sylnt.us - what-to-spend-your-money-on
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[11:57:16] <paulej72> wow here bofore TheMightyBuzzard
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[12:02:58] <takyon> edit Microkia -> Microsoft in this summary? http://soylentnews.org
[12:02:59] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: Mobile World Congress 2015 Roundup 04(5 comments)
[12:03:02] <takyon> k e k
[12:08:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:08:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1145
[12:08:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i have a hard time waking up when it's raining
[12:12:51] <paulej72> i was woken by the plows and was kept up by the guy shoveling the sidewalk
[12:15:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh nice
[12:15:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was woken by severe decaffeination i guess cause i slept right through the beastie boys blaring out the speakers
[12:18:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like everything's a go on the RFC except charging for downmods and Incorrect
[12:22:08] <takyon> yay
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[12:27:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> we really could use a karma sink but i guess we can just age it arbitrarily
[12:29:03] <takyon> Spend 25 karma, get 1 day of soylent premium
[12:29:11] <takyon> so I can check my comment history
[12:29:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> interestin
[12:31:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> new billing options going in before any mod changes though. monthly and semi-annually as well as annually.
[12:32:18] * n1 makes a cup of tea for TheMightyBuzzard
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[12:32:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can't threaten me, i done got coffee
[12:33:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> jamacian blue mountain that i ground myself last night.
[12:33:07] <n1> damn, you caught me
[12:33:13] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I thought we could get some of low hanging mod changes in at the same time
[12:33:33] <takyon> http://www.reuters.com
[12:33:34] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Editor's choice | Reuters.com
[12:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, ya some of em should be easy. honestly we could prolly do all of em in a week.
[12:34:18] <paulej72> porobably. I will work on the admin page for mod bombs
[12:34:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool
[12:35:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> check several ways though as opposed to just time-based
[12:35:54] <paulej72> Not sure what other ways there are to check
[12:36:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> like... well my logic's not logicing yet but seems like you could look for five down mods to the same uid from the same moderator within the past 24h
[12:37:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> or five downmods to the same uid within 5m from multiple moderators
[12:38:00] <paulej72> but if I look for 5 downmods to a uid from any modders I would catch that case as well
[12:38:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but you'd catch a lot of false positives as well
[12:38:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you narrow it to a smaller window
[12:38:36] <paulej72> maybe maybe not
[12:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean it ain't uncommon for me to get 6-8 downmods in a day fully legit.
[12:39:17] <paulej72> oooo, user settable time and count
[12:39:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> could, yep
[12:39:46] <takyon> inb4 modbombers spread it out over an hour
[12:39:59] <paulej72> but this would allow us to keep an eye on trolls easier
[12:40:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe two or three pre-defined queries and an admin definable one?
[12:40:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> takyon, ya. it's always gonna be an arms race.
[12:41:00] <paulej72> was just thinking of using some defaults and having some fields to change and rerun the querry
[12:42:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> just order n separate em by commenter uid?
[12:42:25] <paulej72> yeppers
[12:43:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds good. that way we can tweak the variables in case someone builds in a delay.
[12:43:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> wanna go live with the api pre-alpha as well while we're at it?
[12:46:12] <paulej72> maybe, i’ll need to ponder that for a few.
[12:47:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, should we look for shill upmodding as well? don't think it's a problem yet but it's an interesting logic problem.
[12:48:12] <paulej72> the report will show ipids and subnetids so it will be easy to look for
[12:48:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent
[12:49:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> need a checkbox for that though in case they get funky with the proxy cheeze-whiz
[12:49:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> have it default to checked though. we prolly got a little while before people start proxying
[12:54:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, three of those are db-only changes, two are already in, two are scrapped, and three will require coding--mostly all in the same sub.
[12:54:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and the one you're jumping on
[12:56:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> may as well get my vm up to date with the last pull request or two and get started on one of them
[13:01:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you buggered up touche, going to fix and pull request real quick
[13:07:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, quick n simple fix. https://github.com going to go ahead and merge.
[13:07:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Fix accented e on touche in upgrades by TheMightyBuzzard · Pull Request #420 · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[13:08:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> and no, i didn't do pull request 420 while stoned, you ganja-heads
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[13:10:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, janrinok
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[13:11:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas better
[13:11:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin janrinok
[13:12:05] <janrinok> yep - didn't work the first time
[13:12:15] <janrinok> sup TMB?
[13:12:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna start in on some of them moderation tweaks
[13:12:49] <janrinok> ah, a glutton for punishment.... :)
[13:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> more for a lack of boredom
[13:13:15] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: did you do my other pull request
[13:13:17] <janrinok> any news of your move?
[13:13:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, the huge one? ya
[13:13:34] <janrinok> hi paulej72
[13:13:34] <ciri> ... janrinok
[13:13:42] <paulej72> no small one last night
[13:13:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, not yet. gimme a sec
[13:14:48] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: there is a toche in the moderation mysql_defaults
[13:15:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, will poke it there in a second as well then.
[13:16:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, merged yours. bout to go find the 2nd touche
[13:17:10] <paulej72> that looked fine in my editor when i commited it. DAMN UTF8
[13:17:31] <takyon> hey janirok, can you edit the mi¢rokia to microsoft in the MWC story? I don't want to cause much more whine
[13:19:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup yup
[13:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, all fixed and merged now. should be no more merges till i write something
[13:20:37] <janrinok> takyon: MWC story?
[13:20:47] <takyon> http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:47] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03SN article: Mobile World Congress 2015 Roundup 04(5 comments)
[13:20:54] <janrinok> ah ok
[13:22:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oi, minions, go post and mod a bunch of comments over on dev. they don't necessarily need to make sense.
[13:22:54] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: you mean like your usual comments? ;)
[13:22:57] <paulej72> downmods needed
[13:23:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[13:23:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> this is a comment, there are many like it but this one is mine, my comment is my best friend, i must master my comment as i master myself
[13:23:57] <janrinok> I can name that film in one....
[13:33:31] <takyon> thanks bruh
[13:35:50] <janrinok> np
[13:41:31] <takyon> let's see if we've done submissions on metamaterials
[13:42:58] <janrinok> takyon: doesn't ring a bell
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[13:44:52] <takyon> beeb has a good article on metamaterials right now
[13:46:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh?
[13:47:15] <takyon> http://www.bbc.com it's a subset of the American Physical Society's March Meeting, yet another thing running from March 2-6 (see MWC, GDC)
[13:47:16] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03BBC News - Magic 'metamaterials' storm physics
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[14:42:54] <SirFinkus> morning folks
[14:43:13] <janrinok> hi SirFinkus
[14:43:33] <SirFinkus> how're things?
[14:44:05] <janrinok> Good but I'm tired
[14:44:11] <janrinok> and with you?
[14:44:20] <SirFinkus> same pretty much
[14:44:31] <janrinok> a lot of it around
[14:45:14] <SirFinkus> recovering from 2 hours of sleep yesterday, slept pretty well last night, but I still have that jet lagged feeling
[14:46:11] <janrinok> I remember that feeling well. I'm just having problem sleeping - so I wake up each morning feeling unrefreshed and sluggish.
[14:46:34] <SirFinkus> you try melatonin? works for me sometimes
[14:47:19] <janrinok> I've got an appointment with a medical specialist later in the month - my own doc is concerned but stresses that it is not something to worry about. It just shouldn't happen...
[14:47:22] <SirFinkus> Doxylamine succinate works too, but gives me weird dreams
[14:47:43] <SirFinkus> not getting sleep is the worst
[14:48:13] <janrinok> ...there are things that are worse, but I agree it is something I wish I didn't suffer from at the moment.
[14:48:42] <SirFinkus> yeah, you're probably right
[14:48:47] <SirFinkus> worst I've had, knock on wood
[14:49:21] <janrinok> hope it stays that way for you, too ;)
[14:49:44] <SirFinkus> well, we gotta die sometime, so it'll get worse eventually
[14:51:12] <SirFinkus> lol I'm a little ray of sunshine aren't I?
[14:51:12] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[14:51:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, SirFinkus
[14:51:46] * SirFinkus wishes ciri would die sooner rather than later
[14:52:11] <SirFinkus> ahh, it's everyone's favorite carrion bird
[14:53:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, watchin tv and playin video games cause i overslept and screwed up my routine enough my brain ain't wanting to wake up.
[14:54:01] <SirFinkus> sounds like everyone had a rough night,
[14:55:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> rain gets me every time.
[14:58:31] <SirFinkus> I like rain
[14:58:53] <SirFinkus> we don't get good rain here though, just boring drizzle stuff
[14:59:00] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: regarding the comments on devtest, if we all log on with the same username will the moderation system still behave the way you expect it to?
[14:59:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, regular dev not devtest
[14:59:39] <janrinok> ah - bollocks!
[15:00:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> devtest code is gonna require a heap of manual merging
[15:00:14] <janrinok> sry to hear that
[15:00:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> such is life. we'll get it sorted.
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[15:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, crutchy
[15:18:36] <janrinok> crutchy: hi
[15:21:39] <SirFinkus> hello crutchy
[15:21:40] <ciri> hi, do you yahoo? SirFinkus
[15:21:53] <SirFinkus> ciri is in rare form this morning
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[15:28:58] <SirFinkus> pulled pork is breakfast today
[15:29:21] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: on dev, has the location of setting the 'I want to Moderate' been moved - I'm having problems seeing it?
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[15:30:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, newp. i couldn't tell ya where it is though.
[15:30:41] <paulej72> janrinok, preferences home willing to mod
[15:30:47] <janrinok> thx
[15:31:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, i'll need to rerun the giving out mod points script though
[15:31:11] <janrinok> no rush
[15:31:21] <paulej72> but that is probably not the best place for it. I should move it to comments as well
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[15:33:05] <janrinok> I'm going blind in my old age - preferences - homepage maybe? Cant's see that option there. Can't see a 'home'
[15:33:45] <janrinok> found it - there are two homepage buttons but they go different places
[15:33:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[15:34:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> all set?
[15:34:38] <janrinok> set
[15:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> points granted
[15:35:15] <janrinok> thx
[15:36:05] <janrinok> in fact there are 2 rows containing the same sequence of password, Homepage, comments, messages and Subs. Do they both behave differently?
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[15:36:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, one's for editors+ and one's the normal settings
[15:37:09] <janrinok> I'm going to have to write a user guide when the changes stop occuring
[15:39:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> for eds and admins?
[15:43:38] <janrinok> yep
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[15:43:48] <janrinok> or just for dimwits such as myself
[15:44:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> NEED MOAR COFFEE!
[15:45:13] <janrinok> NEED MOAR TEA - AND SLEEP
[15:45:42] <SirFinkus> tea is pretty great
[15:47:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:47:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1146
[15:48:41] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: while we are tweaking mods, maybe "-1 Redundant" should have no karma hit?
[15:50:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm, honestly i think Redundant is redundant and should just go away as a downmod but i'm not gonna mess with it until it's been in an rfc
[15:50:38] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: makes perfect sense in some situations: http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by GungnirSniper (1671)
[15:51:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> redundant don't really rise to the level of annoying that all the other downmods have for our site. maybe once we get a gerzillion comments per story.
[15:51:33] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard, perfect mod for "Me Too" type of comments
[15:51:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth but ^^
[15:52:01] <mrcoolbp> just occured to me in most cases it wouldn't be malicious, and I don't see a need to hit someone's karma for missing something someone said, (or as pj points out simply doing a "mee too"
[15:52:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod.
[15:52:40] <paulej72> how about an Uninformative downmod
[15:52:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> it'd get used on most every post
[15:53:12] <n1> ^
[15:53:30] <paulej72> Crazy MF downmod
[15:53:36] <mrcoolbp> yeah, that would be like "Incorrect" which I think is can-o-worms status
[15:53:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd get that one too often so ima vote no
[15:53:55] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: "+1 bad-ass MF"
[15:54:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, yep. it and charging to downmod are both out for this round of stuffs.
[15:54:49] <mrcoolbp> was an interesting idea, but I think it's still half-baked
[15:54:58] <mrcoolbp> I'm fine with passing on that one for now
[15:56:02] <mrcoolbp> okay well I'm outta modpoints for testing
[15:56:13] <mrcoolbp> gonna get breakfast
[15:56:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
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[16:47:21] <n1> the myth, the legend, it's Bytram
[16:48:55] <Bytram> it's a mythtery of epic proportions
[16:49:03] <Bytram> =)
[16:49:12] <SirFinkus> morning
[16:49:17] <Bytram> just popped in quick to realy a msg to janrinok
[16:49:22] <Bytram> morning!
[16:49:26] <Bytram> !uid
[16:49:26] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5148, owned by retrogamer
[16:49:32] <Bytram> gtg brb
[16:55:12] <Bytram> back
[16:55:28] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ping.
[16:56:03] <Bytram> seems like we have a but with UTF-8 chars on production
[16:56:26] <Bytram> see: https://soylentnews.org
[16:56:26] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[16:57:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email At State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules - http://sylnt.us - one-rule-for-them || Films About Internet Heroes - http://sylnt.us - cowboyneal
[16:58:10] <Bytram> well, THAT's a little late.
[16:58:34] <n1> i changed the headline slightly, reason it showed up again
[16:58:43] <Bytram> aha! nod nod
[17:07:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, pong
[17:08:03] <Bytram> g'morning!
[17:08:10] <Bytram> seems like we have a but with UTF-8 chars on production...
[17:08:16] <Bytram> see: https://soylentnews.org
[17:08:16] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[17:08:40] <Bytram> in a nutshell, it seems that UTF-8 chars in a URL are getting stripped
[17:09:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> not so much as they're causing everything before them to be stripped
[17:09:28] <Bytram> hmmmm...
[17:09:38] <Bytram> yes. that seems to be the case.
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[17:09:56] <Bytram> and, in the [domainname.com] text, they seem to just be stripped
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[17:12:04] <Bytram> it all started when I replied to a comment and had an idea... see the bottom of: https://soylentnews.org
[17:12:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by martyb (76)
[17:13:01] <Bytram> those links were created using NCEs like: è
[17:13:16] <Bytram> which I see displayed as:
[17:13:16] <Bytram> http://.example.com [example.com]
[17:13:16] <Bytram> http://xmpl.cm [xmpl.cm]
[17:15:23] <Bytram> I tried testing these on devtext.soylentnews.com but was running into all kinds of challenges just replying to a comment... am creating a test story right now
[17:15:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> run em on regular dev. devtest is on hold until we get 15_03 and a point release for this out.
[17:16:15] <Bytram> ah, ok. didn't know. thanks for the update
[17:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> well not on hold but not going to be released until at least 15_05
[17:16:26] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:17:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> proper unicode character is getting converted into %fc
[17:17:09] <Bytram> so devtest is strictly for perl-version-related updates and dev is for the normal site updates?
[17:17:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[17:17:20] <Bytram> hrmmm
[17:17:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> for now anyway.
[17:17:41] <Bytram> got it! thnks
[17:17:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> after we get the links thing fixed that will prolly change
[17:18:49] <Bytram> links thing?
[17:19:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, this thing
[17:19:16] <Bytram> k
[17:19:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCEs shouldn't work at all in urls
[17:19:32] * Bytram is creating a new test story on dev where we can test
[17:19:42] * Bytram submitted story
[17:19:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> test em out in the story first
[17:20:25] <Bytram> ummm, k.
[17:20:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly right now i wanna know if it happens in story text as well as comments. the other i can track down pretty quick without testing.
[17:21:01] <Bytram> k
[17:21:32] <Bytram> got one set of test dfata pasted in and reproduces problem... now going for the AC's tests
[17:21:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll check back in about 15-20
[17:24:39] <Bytram> k
[17:25:48] <Bytram> arghh. Just hit save, but forgot to update the posting time; it should go live at 17:40
[17:25:56] <Bytram> can be found at: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[17:25:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Error
[17:26:17] <Bytram> coffee++
[17:26:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1147
[17:26:23] <Bytram> !uid
[17:26:23] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5148, owned by retrogamer
[17:29:40] <Bytram> I can't really reproduce all the cases the AC mentioned as the links get mangled along the way; should be able to get the gist of it from the surrounding commentary
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[17:30:28] * Bytram waves a belated goodbye to SirFinkus
[17:31:07] * Bytram needs food; back in a few minutes
[17:37:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[17:37:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1148
[17:38:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i'm just glad they go to a non-working state
[17:39:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder what i did that made them not work cause i distinctly remember testing them and having them working
[17:40:21] <Bytram> back
[17:40:42] <Bytram> IIRC, that's one set of permutations that I did not test
[17:41:02] <Bytram> well, I might have... I just don't remember doing it.
[17:41:51] <Bytram> I was mostly focused on whether or not we could handle all UTF-8 chars as *text* in all the various places where it could be input.
[17:44:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[17:45:27] <Bytram> as I see it, now, there's (at least) 4 different ways to try to insert non-ascii chars into a URL:
[17:45:46] <Bytram> 1.) as literal text: "".
[17:45:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> not gonna sweat it until i have time to get to it since it makes em fail into a broken state instead of a potentially malicious one.
[17:46:06] <Bytram> 2.) as a named character entity: "é"
[17:46:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya that should NEVER work
[17:46:30] <Bytram> 3.) decimal char entities: &#nnn;
[17:46:38] <Bytram> 4.) hex char ents: &#xnnn;
[17:46:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> percent encoding too
[17:46:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> %fc
[17:46:58] <Bytram> 5.) percent-encoded (bytes?): %7f
[17:47:03] <Bytram> =)
[17:47:24] <Bytram> I disagree on #2 -- it *should* work!
[17:47:38] <Bytram> that's how one is supposed to encode '&' in a url: &
[17:47:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, it's out of spec. no character entities should ever work in a url
[17:48:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> beyond the first /, yes. in a domain name, no.
[17:48:28] <Bytram> most every validator I've used complains when I have just a '&' as a url parameter
[17:48:37] <Bytram> oh, hmmmmm....
[17:48:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> & is out of spec in domain names and should never, ever, ever be parsed down into anything else.
[17:48:53] <Bytram> shold not work in the domain-name part
[17:49:08] <Bytram> sounds reasonable.
[17:49:21] * Bytram tries to remember in which RFC that should be. :(
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[17:49:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't remember but i'm not reading it
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[17:49:50] * Bytram waves at Subsentient
[17:49:59] <Subsentient> greetings
[17:50:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> just gonna find the bit of code i put in that screwed things up and make it go not do that anymore.
[17:50:18] <Bytram> sounds pretty simple when you put it *that* way!
[17:50:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully. it absolutely is something i did cause i KNOW i tested domain names that were entirely arabic.
[17:51:16] <Bytram> I've seen 'em!
[17:51:18] <paulej72> I guess 3 and 4 count as 2 in this case
[17:51:53] <Bytram> paulej72: I'd agree -- doesn't matter how you code 'em... no character entities of any kind.
[17:52:13] * Bytram discovers that 15 of the 17 RFCs he referred to for UTF-8 testing mention domain names. :(
[17:52:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, check it: http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[17:52:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (TMB dev) article: IDN links test
[17:53:13] <Bytram> on my way
[17:53:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> knew i'd tested that but something i did after broke it
[17:54:04] <Bytram> hmmm
[17:54:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> way too much code since it went live to sift though though. i'll trace it like it's a new bug.
[17:54:30] * Bytram goes to append that to the testing sotry on dev
[17:54:44] <Bytram> sounds best
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[17:55:46] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: hold on... this is strange!
[17:56:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: look at this story, now that I pasted your test code into it: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[17:56:14] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03Error
[17:56:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> editor interface vs submission interface
[17:56:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> watch
[17:56:45] <Bytram> hmmm
[17:56:54] <paulej72> vs comment interface
[17:57:20] <Bytram> there's too much majik voodoo under da hood!
[17:58:19] <paulej72> http://en.wikipedia.org
[17:58:19] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Punycode
[17:58:37] <paulej72> how to use ascii to do unicode in domain names
[17:58:43] * TheMightyBuzzard blames the french and their fancy letters
[17:59:00] <paulej72> blame quebec
[17:59:13] <Bytram> yeah, them and da germans with their umlauts
[17:59:36] * Bytram does not even glance at korean, chinese, japanese, or arabic, or...
[17:59:39] <paulej72> no blaming quebec is like blaming canada, but specific to the french
[18:00:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, two birds with one stone
[18:00:47] <Bytram> hmmm, I psted your story txt into a comment on dev and at first glance loks to have come through ok
[18:00:49] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[18:00:50] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) comment by martyb (76)
[18:01:34] * Bytram hears timer ding; goes to finish preparing lunch.
[18:01:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hell, that's not inserting unicode into a url that's inserting high ascii into a url
[18:02:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is illegal characters under unicode spec
[18:02:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> the whole high ascii range is.
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[18:03:16] <paulej72> but is it valid for domains
[18:03:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> have to check on that. not sure it is.
[18:03:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> unicode duplicates the characters in a higher codepoint and uses that range for control characters
[18:05:00] <paulej72> http://abisprüche.com/ I copied that right form the address bar from ff
[18:05:21] <paulej72> will not work in comments but does get the page in ff
[18:06:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[18:07:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, narrowed it down. only the characters in the old high ascii range are getting mangled.
[18:07:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> like 128-255 decimal values
[18:08:01] <paulej72> can we convert them first
[18:08:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i spect i'll end up having to do that. will also have to figure out why named/numbered entities are getting converted.
[18:09:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> no rush though so ima quit messing with it for now and get back to moderation stuff.
[18:10:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> with luck i can get to it over the weekend but i wouldn't advise breath holding
[18:10:15] <paulej72> sure sure
[18:10:22] * Bytram exhales
[18:10:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now, lunch.
[18:10:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> well no, right now write an error message. then lunch.
[18:11:23] <paulej72> Error: Lucnh not found. <Retry> <Abort>
[18:11:41] <Bytram> lol!
[18:12:12] <Bytram> ARF! Abort, Retry, Fail
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[18:16:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, karma floor done. will test post-sammich.
[18:28:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Call for Illusion of the Year - http://sylnt.us - did-you-see-that!?
[18:36:04] <Bytram> lunch caught up with me... need a nap.
[18:36:34] <Bytram> then I gots some errands to run... hope to check in sometime later in the day.
[18:36:49] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ # for quickly jumping on the UTF-8 bug hunt
[18:36:49] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 148
[18:36:56] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ # for quickly jumping on the UTF-8 bug hunt
[18:36:56] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 149
[18:36:56] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ # for quickly jumping on the UTF-8 bug hunt
[18:36:56] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 150
[18:37:07] <Bytram> nice round number
[18:37:29] <Bytram> paulej72++ # for confirming suspicions on problem source
[18:37:29] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 107
[18:37:37] <Bytram> paulej72++
[18:37:37] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 108
[18:37:38] <Bytram> paulej72++
[18:37:38] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 109
[18:37:39] <Bytram> paulej72++
[18:37:39] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 110
[18:37:49] <Bytram> laters
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[18:38:39] <paulej72> need to logon with my shill account to up my karma
[18:38:45] <paulej72> :P
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[19:12:39] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I saw some merges, are we good on the new sub code? I
[19:13:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> new sub code's done barring bugs, we're workin on the RFC changes now.
[19:13:57] <mrcoolbp> nice
[19:14:19] <paulej72> yep going to add the mod changes then test and deply
[19:15:12] <paulej72> most of the mod changes are relivly easy to accomplish.
[19:15:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> got downmod floor done today. may get another done today, may wait till tomorrow.
[19:16:27] <paulej72> I have got the hardest one, as I need to do a new db select that may be a mosnster.
[19:18:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. i'm prolly going after the second hardest tomorrow. spam mods being free n limiting to 5/day. may do pre-moderation required before over/underrated too.
[19:18:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> both of em gonna require a new db call.
[19:19:34] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard, if that looks like a bitch to do free spam mods then don't. I am not a real fan of that one. I think it could leed to abuse.
[19:20:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it's easy. one select statement when they try and use spam mod.
[19:21:08] <mrcoolbp> I'm not sure it's a good idea
[19:21:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> already done something similar in the code for mod banning so no biggie.
[19:21:17] <mrcoolbp> 'nuff points floating around right now
[19:21:24] <mrcoolbp> I mean how much spam do we normally get?
[19:21:30] <mrcoolbp> maybe mods can do free spam mods
[19:21:31] <paulej72> very little
[19:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> almost none
[19:21:37] <mrcoolbp> s/mods/admins/
[19:21:37] <sedctl> <mrcoolbp> maybe admins can do free spam mods
[19:21:58] <mrcoolbp> spam has the highest potential for abuse, we should be careful with that one
[19:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i can do that.
[19:22:03] <mrcoolbp> I'm not sure exactly how it works
[19:22:11] <paulej72> if the issue comes up I can turn on unlimited mods to admins an editors
[19:22:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> same code but with a check for is_admin
[19:22:32] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: yeah make a switch that's easy to flip
[19:22:36] <mrcoolbp> just in case
[19:22:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> or seclev > 99 or whatever
[19:22:44] <paulej72> we don't need a sperate system
[19:23:02] <mrcoolbp> I would like to see no negative impact to the spamming user (except buring the comment) until it's been checked by an admin
[19:23:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> if ya like.
[19:23:22] <mrcoolbp> if it were double checked, I'm fine with deleting the spam too
[19:23:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[19:23:37] <mrcoolbp> again, potential for abuse
[19:23:45] <mrcoolbp> just look at how much people complain about a troll mod
[19:23:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> also potential to break things if someone replied to it
[19:23:58] <mrcoolbp> can you imagine the backlash for a wrongly spam-banned etc.
[19:24:04] <mrcoolbp> TMB: hmm
[19:24:09] <mrcoolbp> hadn't thought of that
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[19:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> belly full of lasagna weighing me down. gonna have a smoke then a nap unless we got more to cover
[19:28:05] <SirFinkus> mmm, lasagna
[19:29:07] <SirFinkus> fucking shitty headphones broke again, time to bust out the soldering iron
[19:35:21] * SirFinkus forgot he has the world's worst soldering iron
[19:36:22] <paulej72> SirFinkus, you can't skimp on the soldering irons
[19:36:51] * mechanicjay curses his users
[19:37:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> users being a pain? must be a day that ends in "y"
[19:37:18] <paulej72> mechanicjay, you only need to tell us when you don't have to curse your users
[19:37:58] <SirFinkus> clearly, although I only use the thing twice a year
[19:38:26] <paulej72> if you had a better one, you would fine more uses for it
[19:38:29] <chromas> can you add a flag in the modbomb detector for when the referrer is the user page?
[19:38:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sharp enough or do you need to scuff and retin it?
[19:38:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, not a bad idea
[19:39:02] <paulej72> ???
[19:39:14] <SirFinkus> the tip keeps wiggling out
[19:39:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> if the referrer is a user page, it was a targeted mod
[19:39:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, that's what she said
[19:39:35] <chromas> Bender: grab SirFinkus
[19:39:35] <Bender> Added quote 402
[19:40:14] <paulej72> that would be a whole nother field to the table and might be a bitch to setup
[19:40:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah nah nah, you get it from $r
[19:40:49] <SirFinkus> it was like $2 at radio shack
[19:41:13] <chromas> there are still things for $2 at radio shack?
[19:41:22] <SirFinkus> there's still a radio shack?
[19:41:26] <chromas> a resistor maybe
[19:42:08] <chromas> oh I see. You got it 20 years ago
[19:42:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> if($r->{referrer} ~= m#$our_url/~#){ #do stuff cause this was a targeted hit mod }
[19:43:15] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: here's something fun: I just recently found out the ~ operator works in sql too
[19:43:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> but you can't count on getting a referrer header at all, much less an accurate one.
[19:43:23] <chromas> match by regex
[19:43:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[19:44:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway...
[19:44:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[19:44:23] <Bender> karma - naps: 21
[19:44:32] <paulej72> but I still need to put what page called the mod in the db and then pull it out and list it
[19:45:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right. yeah, skip it then. referrer's are easy to stop or spoof anyway.
[19:46:13] <paulej72> i would not use referers' i would pass a var, but that is easy to spoof
[19:51:50] <SirFinkus> well that was infuriating
[19:56:09] * SirFinkus wishes grado had used any strain relief on their cables at all
[19:56:29] <SirFinkus> they're not as bad as apple cables I guess
[19:59:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask Soylent: Looking for Document and File Organisation Tools - http://sylnt.us - over-to-you
[20:04:23] <SirFinkus> hmm, new headphones, or new amplifier to annoy the neighbors?
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[21:01:45] <crutchy> coffee++
[21:01:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1149
[21:02:56] <n1> g'day crutchy
[21:02:57] <ciri> greetings n1
[21:04:03] <crutchy> g'day
[21:04:03] <ciri> hello crutchy
[21:04:40] <crutchy> ciri: i had a dream that you were unshackled here
[21:04:57] <crutchy> bugger. still shackled
[21:05:39] <chromas> Only, it wasn't a dream
[21:05:56] <chromas> And you were there, and you
[21:06:26] <crutchy> and tmb was there as the wicked witch with the flying monkees
[21:06:36] <JamesNZ> Was I there?
[21:07:22] <crutchy> you might have been in some gnome pr0nz
[21:07:34] <JamesNZ> Ewww.
[21:07:48] <crutchy> don't worry she was hot
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[21:18:59] <crutchy> ~queue
[21:19:03] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 6 - http://sylnt.us
[21:19:15] <n1> would be nice to have some more
[21:19:21] <crutchy> queue's gettin kinda low
[21:19:24] <crutchy> yeah
[21:19:40] <crutchy> i would submit my usual garbage but i gotta head of to work in a couple of minutes
[21:19:56] <n1> no worries
[21:20:16] <n1> we're working on the bot story but thats taking some time!
[21:20:45] <crutchy> sorry my scratchings were pretty scratchy
[21:21:30] <n1> i didnt even know where was a wiki page for the bots
[21:21:34] <n1> there*
[21:21:48] <crutchy> [[IRC|Bots]]
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[21:21:50] <exec> 13http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/IRC#Bots
[21:21:55] <crutchy> :p
[21:22:13] <n1> heh
[21:22:40] <n1> should be up tomorrow at some point
[21:27:04] <crutchy> off to workipoos. catch yas later
[21:27:36] <n1> laters
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[21:40:21] <mrcoolbp> [[Who's Who]]
[21:40:22] <exec> 13wiki: get_text=section not found
[21:40:38] <mrcoolbp> [[Who'sWho]]
[21:40:39] <exec> 13wiki: get_text=section not found
[21:41:03] <mrcoolbp> [[WhosWho]]
[21:41:04] <exec> 13In the interest of getting questions to the right people on via email or IRC, this is a summary of who is involved in SoylentNews. If you'd like to work with a team directly, try the TeamPages. Please add yourself to your team's page if you are actively working on the project, it will appear here. 1 Team Contacts 2 The Man Behind The Curtain 3 Administration 4 Development 5 Sysops 6 Style/User Exp...
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[21:41:31] <mrcoolbp> neato
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[21:57:34] <n1> "Suits and Spooks London 2015 will be our [Security Week] first 2-day international event, and is jointly produced with techUK, an association of over 850 companies that's funded by the British government."
[21:57:43] <n1> Suits and Spooks, i mean really...
[22:08:05] <SirFinkus> "lead provider of cloud based platform solutions"
[22:08:27] <SirFinkus> "leading industry provider of application and security services"
[22:08:41] <SirFinkus> ITT tech commercials are funny
[22:09:46] <n1> they're funny at first
[22:09:52] <n1> but it becomes torture after a while
[22:11:06] <SirFinkus> I should get into the diploma mill business
[22:23:48] <SirFinkus> "whoever tells me the truth first gets to go home"
[22:23:58] <SirFinkus> lol cops
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[23:19:18] <mrcoolbp> arti: where's the source code for ciri?
[23:32:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Most Doctors Give in to Parents to Alter Vaccine Schedules - http://sylnt.us - and-the-oscar-for-vaccine-education-goes-to...