#Soylent | Logs for 2015-02-20

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[00:06:29] <paulej72> kkdiejnaygyal\
[00:06:33] <paulej72> jjduekk
[00:06:36] <paulej72> keei’
[00:06:45] <paulej72> hi everybody
[00:06:45] <ciri> hello paulej72
[00:06:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup yo
[00:07:02] <paulej72> had food
[00:07:11] <paulej72> now watching some tv
[00:07:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'We’re Sorry' Says Carnegie-Mellon to 800 CS Grad Students Accepted in Error - http://sylnt.us - blame-a-computer
[00:07:59] <paulej72> tomorrow is one of or dog and pony shows at wook. It is prospective graduate sutudent visit weekend 1
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[00:08:29] <paulej72> going to be working form 7am to 9+pm
[00:08:57] <paulej72> holy fuck, CMU.
[00:08:58] <arti> cool, can you go pantsless?
[00:09:04] <arti> yeah dude 800 oops
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[00:09:13] <paulej72> At CMU you can.
[00:09:31] <paulej72> I was part of Kiltie Band. The no pants band.
[00:09:43] <paulej72> we wore kilts
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[00:12:41] <Bytram> g'day, all!
[00:12:44] <arti> g'day
[00:12:52] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[00:12:53] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 17°F, cloudy, wind W at 23 mph, humidity 65% - Thursday cloudy (0°F-26°F), Friday sunny (0°F-16°F), Saturday snow showers (28°F-30°F), Sunday rain and snow (26°F-38°F)
[00:13:00] <paulej72> ~weather
[00:13:02] <exec> 03Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 15°F / -9°C, cloudy, wind NW at 15 mph, humidity 38% - Thursday scattered snow showers (-2°F-22°F / -19°C--6°C), Friday mostly sunny (1°F-18°F / -17°C--8°C), Saturday snow (29°F-34°F / -2°C-1°C), Sunday showers (25°F-44°F / -4°C-7°C)
[00:13:02] <arti> that's pretty warm compared to mars.
[00:13:04] <Bytram> ~weather portland, maine
[00:13:05] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 23°F, snow, wind W at 13 mph, humidity 81% - Thursday scattered snow showers (6°F-31°F), Friday partly cloudy (-2°F-18°F), Saturday snow showers (23°F-26°F), Sunday snow showers (22°F-37°F)
[00:13:14] <arti> ~weather 92626
[00:13:16] <exec> 03Costa Mesa, CA 92626, USA - currently 69°F / 21°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 54% - Thursday partly cloudy (55°F-72°F / 13°C-22°C), Friday partly cloudy (56°F-68°F / 13°C-20°C), Saturday partly cloudy (59°F-66°F / 15°C-19°C), Sunday showers (55°F-64°F / 13°C-18°C)
[00:13:22] <arti> it's a bit chilly out
[00:13:23] <chromas> ~weather ciri
[00:13:23] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, maine
[00:13:24] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[00:13:25] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 21°F, cloudy, wind N at 7 mph, humidity 78% - Thursday snow (12°F-22°F), Friday snow showers (-6°F-18°F), Saturday mostly cloudy (10°F-16°F), Sunday snow showers (13°F-30°F)
[00:13:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin Bytram
[00:13:37] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: heya
[00:13:42] <Bytram> ~uid
[00:13:44] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5090, owned by Bellator
[00:14:10] * Bytram tries to chew and type at the same time...
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[00:14:22] <paulej72> I just love how bender never fucks that up anymore
[00:14:41] <Bytram> nasty snow storm coming through.. windy and heavy snow blowin sideways.
[00:14:44] <paulej72> you should be able to type with one hand
[00:14:58] * Bytram had top speed of 35mph on the interstate coming home from work
[00:15:04] <paulej72> it is a must for certain internet activities
[00:15:09] <arti> yeah i think you unlock that skill at level 14
[00:15:18] * Bytram wouldn't know what you're talking about
[00:15:31] <chromas> all hands below-deck
[00:15:46] <paulej72> Bytram: that fast, it must have been a jewish holiday
[00:15:49] <Bytram> paulej72: looks like you have a long day ahead of you tomorrow
[00:16:00] <paulej72> sure enough
[00:16:11] * Bytram only fasted for lent -- prolly not jewish
[00:16:12] <paulej72> but there is free food all day
[00:16:25] <Bytram> free_food++
[00:16:25] <Bender> karma - free_food: 1
[00:16:34] <chromas> now that /is/ jewish
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[00:17:12] <paulej72> not kosher
[00:17:35] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: paulej72: thanks *bunches* for rolling out that fix for 'tid' mangling in SN urls!
[00:17:38] <paulej72> meat and dairy togeter yum
[00:17:59] <Bytram> cheeseburger?
[00:18:14] <paulej72> no problem, I thought we had that fixed already or I would have fixed it sooner
[00:18:50] <paulej72> not kosher means so mcuh good food, I am glad I am not jewish
[00:18:51] <Bytram> I don't recall it being a problem until recently -- may have had a regression somewhere?
[00:19:08] <paulej72> although some jewish food is pretty good
[00:19:30] <Bytram> I haven't had a chance to check out the fix on prod yet, but it was rather frustrating.
[00:19:39] <Bytram> matzo_balls++
[00:19:39] <Bender> karma - matzo_balls: 1
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[00:26:52] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: g'dau
[00:26:58] * SpallsHurgenson is now a proud owner of an unfinished ceiling!
[00:27:03] <Bytram> s/au/ay/
[00:27:04] <sedctl> <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: g'day
[00:27:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I feel like royalty!
[00:27:37] * Bytram pictures a bunch of timbers with no blueboard on 'em
[00:27:59] <SpallsHurgenson> Evening, Bytram. It looks like you don't have enough work to do. I nominate you to do crutchy's laundry :)
[00:28:03] <arti> spalls, is that like a glass ceiling?
[00:28:36] <SpallsHurgenson> even better; it's real SheetRock (tm) brand drywall!
[00:29:00] <arti> City Rock
[00:29:18] * Bytram remembers countless hours sanding 'mud' from atop nail heads.
[00:29:30] <Bytram> dust gets *everywhere*
[00:30:09] <arti> it's just your excuse for crying
[00:30:14] <arti> "mighty dusty in here"
[00:30:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I spent an hour vacuuming :)
[00:30:33] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: yuppers! You *do* understand!
[00:30:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I gotta say, my hired goons seen technically skilled but they could use some practice in not making a mess :)
[00:31:47] * Bytram had the same feeling about chefs whose pots, pans, etc. he had to clean.
[00:32:21] <SpallsHurgenson> that's not a mess, that's epicurean art!
[00:33:37] <SpallsHurgenson> (this paid message brought to you by the Classically Trained Chefs Are Better Than You Association of America)
[00:34:03] <Bytram> well, sure didn't look that when it got to *me* !!
[00:34:04] <Bytram> =)
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[00:43:00] <SpallsHurgenson> ask any chef and I am sure they will inform you of your error :)
[00:43:56] <Bytram> that, they may or may not do, but help clean the mess they made? that I'm sure they would not do! (At least the ones I had the pleasure of working with, way back in the day)
[00:45:18] <Bytram> afk / back in a few minutes or so
[00:46:58] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[00:46:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Salt - From the BBC show "Chef!" - YouTube
[00:47:53] <arti> should collect it from sweaty humies
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[00:53:01] <Bytram> back
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[00:53:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kick botctl
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[00:56:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> stoopid bot
[00:56:42] <TasmanianDevil> BugsBunny: why you bury me in the hard cold ground?
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[00:57:59] <Bytram> a couple days ago customer reminded me of that passage from an episode with Taz and Bugs -- hadn't seen that one in like four decades, but I *immediately* remembered it!
[00:58:23] * Bytram wishes he could remember more from that one -- it was a classic!
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[01:00:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> truly it were
[01:00:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that and what's opera doc
[01:00:52] <Bytram> HA! https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:00:53] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Devil May Hare
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[01:05:07] <Bytram> here's the proper quote that I'd mangled: "What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?"
[01:07:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, have the audio of it saved
[01:08:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net:8000
[01:10:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i need a new alarm song
[01:10:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> already trolled myself Groundhog Day style with I Got You Babe. currently using Sabotage by the Beastie Boys.
[01:11:26] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Nice!
[01:11:45] * Bytram was having no luck with getting it from: http://www.hark.com
[01:11:46] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Bury Me Sound Clip and Quote - Hark
[01:11:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to be on youtube
[01:12:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yoinked it from there
[01:12:18] <Bytram> nod nod - much obliged
[01:13:43] <Bytram> can you imagine what it could have been like going out to a restaurant with Mel Blanc and he places an order as, say, daffy duck? Or doing tech support and having him call in as yosemite sam?
[01:13:49] <Bytram> the pranks he must have pulled!
[01:14:46] * TheMightyBuzzard grins
[01:15:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> some people is just overflowing with teh funny
[01:16:28] <Bytram> or calls up his senator with a question about a current issue -- as porky pig?
[01:16:54] * Bytram wonders if he did foghorn leghorn, too.
[01:17:28] * Bytram checks https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:17:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Mel Blanc
[01:17:55] <Bytram> yes, he did!
[01:17:56] <Bytram> Although he began his sixty-plus-year career performing in radio, Blanc is best remembered for his work with Warner Bros. as the voices of Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Tweety Bird, Sylvester the Cat, Yosemite Sam, Foghorn Leghorn, Marvin the Martian, Pep Le Pew, Speedy Gonzales, Wile E. Coyote, the Tasmanian Devil and many of the other characters from the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoon
[01:17:56] <Bytram> short films, produced during the golden age of American animation.
[01:18:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> really wasn't much in the way of voicing for Wile E. Coyote until the later years.
[01:19:11] <Bytram> ROFL! RIght you are!
[01:19:12] <arti> short films
[01:19:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me: https://www.youtube.com
[01:19:16] <arti> i think those are called samples
[01:19:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Great Divide - Wile E. Coyote - YouTube
[01:19:53] <arti> Speedy Gonzales, there's a name i haven't heard in a long time...
[01:19:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> WileECoyote++
[01:19:55] <Bender> karma - wileecoyote: 1
[01:20:22] <arti> get it taken off the air for insensitivity or something, right? kicker, those south of the border liked it.
[01:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> "He [Speedy Gonzales] knows my sister." "Speedy Gonzales knows everybody's sister."
[01:21:58] <arti> i detect a lot of friction
[01:22:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> arti, only in the US on account of racism. in mexico he's popular as hell.
[01:22:27] <arti> improper use of racism detected :P
[01:22:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[01:22:42] <arti> :)
[01:22:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> stew time i think. if the taters are done.
[01:23:11] <arti> it's been stew time all night
[01:23:18] <arti> you're a damned hobbit
[01:25:06] <SpallsHurgenson> anyone else here have really hairy feet?
[01:25:23] * arti has flashbacks to /.
[01:31:22] <Bytram> it's been a long day and I think I'm gonna call it an early night.
[01:31:38] <Bytram> ciao for now
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[01:32:04] <Bytram|away> g'night everyone!
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[02:14:39] <BadCoderFinger> Hey guys
[02:16:55] * SpallsHurgenson is watching Lenny Henry berate his staff in Chef!
[02:17:56] <arti> http://www.nationalreview.com
[02:17:57] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03National Review
[02:18:13] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, that's a blast from the past.
[02:18:49] <BadCoderFinger> I love that show.
[02:19:42] <SpallsHurgenson> I re-watch a few episodes every now and again just to listen to Henry go off on one of his employees.
[02:20:38] <BadCoderFinger> Nothing like that stream of insults.
[02:26:48] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently the character was at least partially based on the real chef who advised the actors on how to behave in a real kitchen
[02:26:58] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:28:19] <juggs> probably that other celeb chef abuse master Gordon Ramsey
[02:28:43] <juggs> or is it Ramsay :/
[02:28:55] <juggs> too unmotivated to bother searching
[02:28:55] <BadCoderFinger> Sadly, he's not nearly as funny as Lenny Henry.
[02:28:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I saw Chef! first so I always thought of those cooking shows as weak imitators :)
[02:29:17] <SpallsHurgenson> shame the series jumped the shark in the third series
[02:30:31] <SpallsHurgenson> didn't they do a cross-over with Red Dwarf at one point? I seem to remember a special where they were "cooking" vindaloo
[02:31:34] <BadCoderFinger> I don't remember that.
[02:32:57] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, apparently it wasn't involving Henry, but some other cooking show https://www.youtube.com
[02:32:59] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Red Dwarf: Can't Smeg, Won't Smeg Segment - YouTube
[02:34:33] <SpallsHurgenson> (whoa... wind is picking up out there; I can hear it howling)
[02:35:57] <SpallsHurgenson> .f2c -1
[02:35:58] <ciri> Converted -1 Fahrenheit => -18.3348 Celsius
[02:36:07] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: Woohoo for crazy wind. We should get ours tomorrow.
[02:36:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I believe it is officially "cold" again
[02:37:15] <juggs> I'd describe that as somewhat chilly!
[02:37:23] <juggs> ~weather
[02:37:25] <exec> 03London, UK - currently 46°F / 8°C, rain showers, wind SW at 10 mph, humidity 90% - Thursday rain (43°F-47°F / 6°C-8°C), Friday showers (34°F-45°F / 1°C-7°C), Saturday partly cloudy (31°F-46°F / -1°C-8°C), Sunday showers (41°F-48°F / 5°C-9°C)
[02:37:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[02:37:31] <exec> 03Stratford, OK, USA - currently 41°F, clear, wind SE at 9 mph, humidity 53% - Thursday clear with periodic clouds (37°F-50°F), Friday cloudy (45°F-56°F), Saturday partly cloudy (31°F-55°F), Sunday mostly cloudy (20°F-37°F)
[02:37:39] * TheMightyBuzzard loses
[02:37:48] <SpallsHurgenson> shame, I was rather enjoying our warm 28F weather; brisk but not "hey, have you seen my nose or did it fall off from frostbite" weather :)
[02:38:42] <juggs> OK seems really rather similar to SE England weather wise
[02:39:07] <SpallsHurgenson> well you know, England always follows the US's lead these days :)
[02:39:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> in the cold, yeah. you lot probably don't see a lot of 110-115F summer days though.
[02:39:46] <SpallsHurgenson> just wait :)
[02:39:48] <juggs> True. Rarely top 90
[02:40:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that we did this year either but it's not an uncommon thing
[02:40:30] * SpallsHurgenson pushes buttons on his Weather Dominator machine
[02:41:08] <arti> maybe everyone can turn on their ovens?
[02:41:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> got us a new bot command, juggs
[02:41:24] * TheMightyBuzzard demonstrates
[02:41:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;battlestations
[02:41:29] <botctl> stderr arti juggler Subsentient mechanicjay juggs mrcoolbp Azrael paulej72 Landon TheMightyLaptop TheMightyBuzzard stdhell
[02:41:38] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, new ways to abuse the bots!
[02:41:43] <arti> what are these for
[02:41:45] <SpallsHurgenson> and the ops! :)
[02:41:48] <Subsentient> .op aqu4
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[02:42:08] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick TheMightyBuzzard botctl SpallsHurgenson juggler exec BadCoderFinger Hedonismbot
[02:42:08] <aqu4> Ok.
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[02:42:17] <Subsentient> That's what I call abuse.
[02:42:20] <SpallsHurgenson> lol :)
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[02:43:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> just to ping everyone with voice or ops in case of emergency or if you're feeling like a jackass
[02:43:24] <Subsentient> I prefer my way.
[02:43:28] <Subsentient> $chanctl ban *!*@*
[02:43:28] <aqu4> Ok.
[02:43:28] -!- mode/#Soylent [+b *!*@*] by aqu4
[02:43:58] <Subsentient> $chanctl unban *!*@*
[02:43:58] <aqu4> Ok.
[02:43:59] -!- mode/#Soylent [-b *!*@*] by aqu4
[02:44:02] * SpallsHurgenson grins maliciously
[02:44:07] <chromas> need $ping or something
[02:44:17] * TheMightyBuzzard troutsmacks Subsentient
[02:44:35] <chromas> $chanctl alert staff
[02:44:35] <aqu4> You are not authorized to use that command, you need to be an admin.
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[02:45:24] <SpallsHurgenson> well that's just not fair :)
[02:46:06] * juggs eyes irc admin privs, then glares at Subsentient
[02:46:17] <Subsentient> $burrito juggs
[02:46:17] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at juggs
[02:46:42] * juggs sighs
[02:46:52] * Hedonismbot hungers for burrito
[02:47:02] <Subsentient> $burrito Hedonismbot
[02:47:02] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Hedonismbot
[02:47:22] <Subsentient> I actually was just given an idea.
[02:47:25] * Hedonismbot chomps; digests; becomes stronger
[02:47:30] <Subsentient> Ping spam, now coming to aqu4bot as $pingall
[02:47:52] <chromas> $spamctl start pinging
[02:49:14] <chromas> Poor BadCoderFinger. $chanctl invite BadCoderFinger
[02:49:26] <Subsentient> $chanctl invite BadCoderFinger
[02:49:26] <aqu4> Ok.
[02:50:04] <Subsentient> I really love aqu4bot.
[02:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i love tacos
[02:50:21] <chromas> I wonder if there's a command to force a user into a channel. probably only pj and bewbs could do it
[02:55:48] <juggs> hmm some ircd have /sajoin <nick> <channel> for that - not sure charybdis does
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[03:08:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas better
[03:08:57] <SpallsHurgenson> argh, I feel like I'm coated in plaster dust
[03:12:53] * juggs fires up the pressure washer
[03:16:57] <SpallsHurgenson> and it's not even Friday night! :)
[03:18:48] <MrPlow> ♫ Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow ♫
[03:36:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[03:36:04] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5090, owned by Bellator
[03:39:41] <juggs> chromas, seems /sajoin is an unrealircd command for forcing a user into a channel. I can't seem to find any combination of admin privs and commands that can do the same thing with charybdis and atheme.
[03:40:11] <SpallsHurgenson> hmm, I seem to have misplaced the internet.
[03:40:24] <juggs> Did it ever exist?
[03:40:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EFF to Supreme Court: The Fourth Amendment Covers DNA Collection - http://sylnt.us - staying-home
[03:40:59] <SpallsHurgenson> 4TB of downloaded porn says it did!
[03:44:33] <juggs> Newp, you're delusional. You only have a single 1.44MB 3.5" floppy disk running MS-DOS. Anything beyond that is a fiction created by your sick mind. Seek professional help!
[03:47:54] <SpallsHurgenson> it's highly compressed!
[03:48:36] <juggs> Low Res Minecraft porn?
[04:07:09] * mrcoolbp stumbles into #soylent
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[04:21:05] * mrcoolbp tips hat to TheMightyBuzzard
[04:41:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sim Card Database Hack Gave US and UK Spies Access to Billions of Cellphones - http://sylnt.us - probably-not
[04:52:51] <SirFinkus> every time I see eff, I replace it with EF and it makes it funneir
[05:03:47] * SirFinkus is listening to Devin Townsend — The Death of Music, from the album Ocean Machine: Biomech
[05:03:57] <SirFinkus> good shit
[05:07:14] <mrcoolbp> lol
[05:07:15] <ciri> hehehe
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[06:22:53] <crutchy> apparently Subsentient turned to the dark side while i was away :p
[06:23:27] <crutchy> weekend++
[06:23:27] <Bender> karma - weekend: 11
[06:25:04] <ar> coffee--
[06:25:04] <Bender> karma - tea: 408
[06:29:22] <Subsentient> crutchy: what?
[06:42:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Does Dark Matter Cause Mass Extinctions and Geologic Upheavals? - http://sylnt.us - why-are-you-asking-me?
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[08:43:36] <arti> http://antiartificial.com
[08:43:36] <Hedonismbot> ^✓ 03#Soylent stats: 16.2.2015!
[08:44:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple, A123 & Tesla - http://sylnt.us - like-some-speculation-with-your-accusation?
[08:44:43] <crutchy> woohoo i've slowed down my trolling of #soylent a bit
[08:46:44] <chromas> it's a shame
[08:47:03] <arti> i should drum up a script to do a few variants, daily, weekly, monthly
[08:47:04] <chromas> ~trollctl start
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[08:58:40] <crutchy> http://picpaste.com
[08:59:12] <crutchy> hmm. prolly should get rid of the second point. its prolly a bit of an outlier
[08:59:46] <chromas> is that your chatter for the year?
[09:00:20] <chromas> or everyone's?
[09:00:23] <arti> it says STD at the bottom.
[09:00:29] <arti> i need an adult
[09:00:34] <crutchy> removing second point gives us a bit more optimistic estimate for this month 21379.217
[09:00:52] <arti> is that how many f*cks you give?
[09:00:55] <crutchy> lol
[09:00:56] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[09:01:03] <crutchy> nah its just a plot of the monthly stats
[09:01:11] <crutchy> the #soylent period chart :p
[09:01:21] * arti resists
[09:01:47] <crutchy> we're bleeding lines
[09:01:49] <chromas> those dots should be red
[09:02:07] <arti> you might say you're plotting something
[09:05:35] <crutchy> i'm plotting to forget how to count
[09:05:50] <crutchy> column B goes 1, 3, 4, 5...
[09:05:52] <arti> you should hold public office.
[09:06:26] <chromas> it was fine 'til you deleted a row
[09:06:37] <crutchy> yeah
[09:06:53] <chromas> fortunately the numbers on the left adjust automatically
[09:07:16] <crutchy> lucky i'm an engineer so that i have an excuse for making arithmetic errors :D
[09:07:21] <arti> the left has that way with numbers
[09:07:47] * arti has filled his cheap partisan shot quota
[09:08:02] <crutchy> i missed a good conversation today
[09:10:22] <crutchy> cheap_partisan_shots++
[09:10:22] <Bender> karma - cheap_partisan_shots: 1
[09:10:56] <crutchy> though i tend to fire them at both democrats and republicans, and i'm not even an american :p
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[09:25:48] <crutchy> tmb, someone should add TheMightyBot to http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[09:25:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: IRC
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[09:30:19] <crutchy> oh its already in there :p
[10:07:11] <arti> words one hopes never to hear from a date
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[11:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:13:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1091
[11:14:08] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:14:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1092
[11:14:08] <crutchy> ++coffee
[11:14:09] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 276
[11:30:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> true nuff, i'll get him added
[11:37:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go
[11:39:08] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:39:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1093
[11:39:09] <crutchy> ++coffee
[11:39:09] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 277
[11:39:28] <crutchy> wow. 1.3s lag :/
[11:39:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato
[11:42:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think my brain has more lag than that right now
[11:44:18] <chromas> needs more leg
[11:44:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://torrentfreak.com
[11:44:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Aussie ISPs Advocate "Three Strikes" Solution to Piracy | TorrentFreak
[11:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> time to buy a vpn for j00
[11:45:54] <chromas> time to pirate from the cloud
[11:46:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> feh, better quality off vpn+torrents than streaming
[11:48:28] <chromas> I wonder if anyone uses amazon or ms clouds as vpns for buttpirating
[11:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly. easier to just connect to a pre-made one though than make sure your own is set up securely.
[11:50:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno their policies on bandwidth. could get expensive pulling ~250GB/mo if they charge for bandwidth beyond a limit.
[11:50:45] <crutchy> i don't bother with torrents. the odd time i wanna watch a movie i just go to viooz.ac (with ad block edge)
[11:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me, rather download once n watch whenever
[11:52:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'how i watch all my tv and it's more timely than streaming sites.
[11:52:08] <chromas> everybody, let's exchange tricks for getting free movies. this is not a trap
[11:52:33] <crutchy> _NSAKEY isn't here so its safe
[11:52:51] <chromas> he shore was talkative-like
[11:53:03] <crutchy> as talkative as a black box
[11:53:23] <crutchy> hmm. that could be misinterpreted :p
[11:53:32] <chromas> wire_storage++
[11:53:32] <Bender> karma - wire_storage: 1
[11:54:31] <crutchy> is streaming content from a website considered pirating?
[11:54:40] <chromas> ciri: crutchy stores his safe in _NSAKEY's black box
[11:54:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on your locality
[11:55:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's legal in the US for the person watching whatever but not for the person offering the streams
[11:55:44] <crutchy> that's kinda what i figured. that's why i feel a bit safer streaming
[11:56:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but you live in oz. yall got crazy anti-people laws down there.
[11:56:36] <crutchy> nah its not so bad. iinet (an aussie isp) told the mpaa to fuck off a while back
[11:56:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> like you got them wacky anti-cigarette n anti-booze laws. worse than any other developed nation pretty much.
[11:57:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept a few states in the us that still mandate 3.2% beer. chalk that up to baptists though.
[11:58:55] <chromas> you don't want too much alcohol when you're baptizing in it
[11:59:02] <crutchy> i think most aussies are ok with that. quit smoking ads and 'if you drink and drive you're a bloody idiot' ads have been playing a lot for years here. its a nice 'fuck you lying scum!' to the cigarette manufacturers
[11:59:31] <crutchy> alcohol is a social disease. i'm not for government regulating it, but people won't
[12:00:11] <chromas> we need to invent a drink'n'drive derby
[12:02:05] <crutchy> i don't mind the cops doing breathalyzer testing on our roads. when i was a kid two of my parents best friends got killed by a drunk driver. i have no sympathy for them. if you wanna drink and drive, then i hope you get caught and lose your licence
[12:03:09] <crutchy> i don't think cops like doing it much. its prolly one of the most boring parts of their job
[12:03:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> drinking and driving's all fine and bad but screw not with free people getting their booze on legally.
[12:04:35] <crutchy> dunno if we have overly strict anti-booze laws here. most of them are local laws that are more along the lines of "drink all you want but don't fuck up other people"
[12:04:51] <crutchy> hence no drinking in certain public areas, etc
[12:05:11] <crutchy> smoking isn't permitted in a lot of places, which is good i think
[12:05:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, our legal limit for drunk behind the wheel can be hit by a dose of cough syrup just about.
[12:05:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, smoking outdoors is about as dangerous to those around you as sunlight. which is to say pretty much not at all.
[12:06:28] <crutchy> .05 is ours. about 3 standard drinks, but there are ads that try to educate people that there's nothing "standard" about a standard drink (cos it varies depending on metabolism etc)
[12:06:41] <crutchy> smoking outdoors is usually permitted
[12:06:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> 0.05 is not three standard drinks. it's half of one.
[12:07:45] <crutchy> maybe it varies between countries. dunno
[12:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ours is 0.08 and i can totally pass any sobriety test you wanna give at that.
[12:08:43] <crutchy> lol our cops don't do those stupid sobriety tests. you don't even get out of the car here unless you blow over 0.05 in the initial breatho
[12:09:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> start getting into the 0.1N range and i start having issues but 0.08 i could drive nascar.
[12:10:15] <crutchy> haha. yeah but driving nascar isn't much of a test :p
[12:10:25] <crutchy> try driving mount panorama :D
[12:10:46] <crutchy> (bathurst)
[12:10:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> 200mph is still 200mph, even in a circle
[12:12:02] <crutchy> if you're not getting one side of the car airborne you're doin it wrong
[12:12:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i used to get both sides of the car airborne when i was a teenager. at the same time.
[12:13:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> were these short little bridges over creeks with steep approaches that if you hit at 60+mpg would straight up Dukes of Hazard launch your ass.
[12:13:47] <crutchy> lol
[12:13:47] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[12:13:54] <crutchy> nice
[12:14:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, poor mom's car
[12:14:15] <crutchy> i've been in one rollover. that's one too many for me
[12:14:27] <crutchy> i don't even like driving on dirt since that
[12:14:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> will say pontiac made their grand am pretty sturdy
[12:14:48] <crutchy> this was in a ford falcon xd
[12:14:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, been driving dirt roads all my life. most roads around OK are dirt.
[12:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> amusing yet true snippet out of my life...
[12:15:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> cop to my cousin: What in the fuck do you think you're doing coming into town doing 138mph on a dirt road?
[12:16:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> cousin to cop: slowing down.
[12:16:10] <crutchy> hahaha
[12:16:17] <crutchy> nice one
[12:16:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> cop liked us though so he just told my cousin he was grounded from driving for a week.
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[12:17:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> was actually more like: I can't even give you a ticket for that, I'd just have to shoot you. Don't let me see you driving that thing for at least a week.
[12:18:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> random factoid, dirt roads in this state are 45mph unless otherwise posted.
[12:21:47] <crutchy> 72km/hr
[12:22:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> silly little kms
[12:22:14] <crutchy> we don't really have a fixed speed for dirt. its just whatever is posted
[12:22:25] <crutchy> often 100km/hr i guess
[12:23:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> must have higher quality dirt roads than us then. ours are very often quite washboarded
[12:23:38] <crutchy> when i was passenger in rollover i reckon we were prolly doing 140 when we hit the kitty litter
[12:23:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ick
[12:24:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> never been in one in a proper car. only go-karts and dune buggys.
[12:24:10] <crutchy> what flipped us i think was those bumps that you get drom tractor tyres
[12:24:36] <crutchy> after we fishtailed a few times we were at right angles with the road and rolled
[12:25:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> you lot get washboard out there as well, yeah? regular little bumps that run sideways across the road and give you terrible traction?
[12:25:24] <crutchy> yup
[12:25:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> hate those
[12:26:07] <crutchy> though we lost traction cos one side of the car was in the soft shit on the side (guy driving was pretty bad for cutting corners)
[12:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[12:26:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah you gotta stay in the smooth ruts if you're speeding on dirt.
[12:27:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> problematic when cresting hills cause so does the other guy who's about to hit you head on
[12:27:23] <crutchy> nod
[12:28:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to be we'd all go out drinking and driving around the back roads. then a friend rolled his shit and the guy riding with him died. not so much on the drunk driving since then even on back roads.
[12:30:14] <crutchy> in the 70's drink driving was just about a social norm, but for years we've grown up with some pretty well made ads that have changed our culture a bit
[12:31:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's just a country thing out here. teens are gonna be on the dirt roads drinking friday-saturday nights cause that's where they can do it and get left alone.
[12:32:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally i think if your chin is over the bar, you should be able to order a drink in said bar. would lead to a lot less stupid with the bartender and other folks saying call a cab
[12:32:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that we have cabs but still
[12:34:03] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:34:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03"Never" TAC Drink Drive TV ad - YouTube
[12:34:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> there is in fact fuck all for public transportation anywhere outside major cities here.
[12:35:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk re-coffee-ing
[12:35:38] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:35:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03"Bush Telegraph" TAC Drink Drive TV ad - YouTube
[12:36:00] <crutchy> they always been pretty shocking, and they always play during prime time
[12:37:40] <crutchy> fixed up my little templating thingy a bit. works pretty well now
[12:45:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> roll your own templating system or use a pre-made one?
[12:45:42] <crutchy> homebrew. frameworks are shit
[12:45:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[12:46:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> just be glad you ain't having to use slash's templating system
[12:47:06] <crutchy> yeah mine's pretty simple
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[12:49:10] <crutchy> i really need to implement some sort of template system into the engineering app i developed for work. it evolved with embedded html and inline css and all sorts of nasties
[12:49:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy crap it lives!
[12:49:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, LaminatorX
[12:49:25] <LaminatorX> Hey there.
[12:49:34] <crutchy> ~g'day LaminatorX
[12:49:36] * exec dexterously slides a blagoblag of spew to LaminatorX
[12:49:56] <LaminatorX> MMMMMmmmm, spew.
[12:50:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't heard from lancepodstrong since he got privs and such but Subsentient could still use some wrangling. he been slacking off on training for months now.
[12:50:46] <crutchy> is Lancepodstrong on the dev team?
[12:50:52] <LaminatorX> Gotcha, thanks.
[12:50:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, he was gonner be an editor
[12:51:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> may still gonna be and just got busy. who knows?
[12:51:06] <LaminatorX> Prospective new editor. He should have rights on the dev site.
[12:51:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, i got that done.
[12:52:06] <LaminatorX> I've been struggling with time myself. New job has less time available for irc and such than old job did.
[12:52:26] * LaminatorX is currently in the office 1/2 hour early.
[12:52:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> happens. i had plenty of time but been spending most of it getting ready to move only to be told it's in a holding pattern yet again.
[12:53:12] <crutchy> i only worked about 36 hours this week it felt longer. stressful weeks wreck me
[12:53:15] <LaminatorX> Yay, boxes!
[12:53:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i fully expect to get a call saying "okay, we're moving today." sometime in the next three weeks.
[12:54:02] <LaminatorX> Ugh, that's awful.
[12:54:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> yurp
[12:55:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially fun since the first part is a ~600mi drive to find a place, then back to pack up n stuff a storage building, then turn around and actually do the moving.
[12:55:41] <crutchy> in a shitty blizzard no doubt?
[12:55:46] <LaminatorX> Two houses ago we ended up renting it back to the people we just bought it from for two months since something went south with their purchase. Thankfully our landlord was cool with us going month-to-month for a bit at the end.
[12:56:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh
[12:56:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah we're looking for a place that will rent month to month so we can look for an actual good house with proper storage capacity for a big trailer.
[12:56:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> till then it's cheap and temporary
[12:57:16] <crutchy> frat house?
[12:57:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads no. we're old and need our quiet and sleep.
[12:58:02] <LaminatorX> Maybe even long term business hotel suite. Don't even unpack from storage until you've got the right place.
[12:58:02] <crutchy> what so sorority chicks?
[12:58:13] <crutchy> *so no
[12:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> storage prolly won't be unpacked for a long time. going from two pretty good sized houses down to one when we find it.
[12:59:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely we'll take some vacation after a year or two and sell most of what's still in storage.
[13:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean like i have three bedrooms used for storage/office and a shop building full of power tools. odds of finding space for all that is kinda slim.
[13:02:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> but then i may decide to get a place out there too when i get bored and get/create another job.
[13:03:53] <LaminatorX> Yeah, sounds like an office-office might be in order.
[13:05:37] <crutchy> come to straya. find a few acres and build yourself a big shed
[13:07:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, off to get some more pre-move stuff squared
[13:09:45] <LaminatorX> Good luck!
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[14:51:20] <janrinok> hi guys
[15:04:23] <CoolHand> hey janrinok
[15:06:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin janrinok
[15:14:52] <paulej72> hello all
[15:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, yo
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[15:16:29] <paulej72> baby sitting presentation right now as I look up info on backup systems
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[15:16:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds good
[15:17:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> how much disk space you expect we're talking by the way? might not be a bad idea for some of the admin types to keep their own backups.
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[15:18:31] <paulej72> Ncommander has the current system do full backus iirc.
[15:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit painful, that
[15:19:04] <paulej72> I would need to look at the used file size on each machine
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[15:19:53] <paulej72> I am all for doing selective backups of certain directories.
[15:19:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i woulda just had fluorine and one of the db boxes do backups. prolly bzip2'd
[15:20:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> and only back up the /srv/soylentnews.org dir and a db dump.
[15:20:53] <paulej72> we should also be doing db dumps of every db periodically and saving the backups
[15:20:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> but then i been accused of overconfidence once or twice.
[15:21:23] <paulej72> I like backing up /etc
[15:21:38] <paulej72> and /home
[15:21:44] <paulej72> and /root
[15:21:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya think? i think dev and the staff slash could die with little to no real loss in time recreating them.
[15:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> now irc on the other hand...
[15:22:25] <paulej72> plus we should make a list of installed apps and back that up periodically
[15:22:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
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[15:23:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah we prolly needed some specific libs installed to build apache proper like.
[15:24:11] <paulej72> the other good thing about oxygen was it was setup to auto vpn over ip6 so we were not paying transfer charges on the linode side
[15:24:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully NC will feel the bug of getting apache2 working again soon and we can leave off custom compiles
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[15:25:32] <paulej72> I would be happy just getting a login to oxygens account
[15:25:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> not holding my breath but it wouldn't suck.
[15:25:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[15:26:38] <paulej72> I still think oxygen is the best choice to do our backups
[15:27:11] <paulej72> if only carbonite had a Linux client, then I would look into using that.
[15:27:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[15:27:46] <paulej72> they have very nice smb pricing, but no Linux support
[15:28:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is insane given the prevalence of linux servers on the net.
[15:28:18] <paulej72> crashplan has a nice family plan price that would work well, but is not licensed for business
[15:29:07] <paulej72> the business plans are 10 per machine per month
[15:29:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean they say nobody ever got fired for buying microsoft but no web box admin ever got fired for using LAMP
[15:29:48] <paulej72> making it more expensive than linode
[15:31:37] <CoolHand> what is wrong with digital ocean? it's only 5/month and has some nice *nix options
[15:32:15] <CoolHand> n/m.. i thought u were talking personal use.. not site use
[15:32:20] <CoolHand> I'm sure it's different for that
[15:32:22] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[15:33:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> trying to ponder the next steps for coding. if you can get monthly billing done before i get around to coding again, i'm thinking of adding Stripe to our list of payment solution providers.
[15:34:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> would still like to see tipping added for a good comment though.
[15:34:39] <paulej72> I need to find if the amount of disk space on digital ocean is enough for the site
[15:36:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> all three have to be done one after the other though cause the changes necessary for one will heavily influence the others.
[15:37:32] <CoolHand> paulej72: D.O. has ssd disks - so speed is nice, but usally less space from what i've seen compared to others for the same price (which isn't good for backup solutions)
[15:39:53] <paulej72> our current provider for oxygen gives lots of disk, iirc
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[15:43:21] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: does stipe have an perl Aoi
[15:43:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[15:43:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> fairly sure anyway. been a couple months since i checked but i can't imagine i bookmarked it without it having one.
[15:46:20] <paulej72> cool. looking at the code, I think I can add monthly real easy by just changing what gets passed between the pages and adding some more into that pass through the payment providers. I think I do not need to alter the logs tables, just what gets saved. we will be sending number of days as a car though the system instead of calculating it from the payment data.
[15:46:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> you n me have slightly different ideas of real easy but i know the code you're talking about.
[15:47:16] <paulej72> I'll probably work on it tomorrow after the dog and pony show is over
[15:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds good
[15:48:08] <paulej72> only a half a dozen pages to update
[15:48:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now we reject payments if they're not equal to $20 as well so that needs to be removed
[15:49:06] <paulej72> do we, where is that?
[15:49:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> somewhere in the core logic. both paypal and bitcoin use it.
[15:49:44] <paulej72> easy to fix
[15:49:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[15:50:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you know it's there, which is why i brought it up
[15:50:15] <paulej72> I need to fix that logic anyway
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[15:50:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> billing's not really difficult, just have to be certain you're right when it goes live unlike other things where a bug doesn't cost anyone anything but embarrassment
[15:51:22] <paulej72> I can add flexible payment amounts. I wonder if I should do that for both monthly and yearly
[15:51:55] <paulej72> that is why we have dev and pp sandbox
[15:52:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly, yeah. monthly is going to cost us subscribers who forget to renew.
[15:52:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> so if you're gonna build something they want on one, build it on the other as well so we don't push them to monthly
[15:52:53] <paulej72> maybe but it should bring in more money
[15:53:24] <paulej72> yeah, it will be easily enough to code it in
[15:53:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe, i'm dubious
[15:53:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, stripe i believe allows subscriptions without us having to store cc info
[15:53:59] <paulej72> only takes four monthly subs for a yearly if we do five bucks
[15:54:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> meaning they take care of the monthly billing automagically
[15:54:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we should bump yearlies up to six monthly subs worth or $30
[15:54:49] <paulej72> so does pp, but the system to do that is much different from what we are using now so I don't want to do it that way
[15:54:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[15:55:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly i'd rather do our monthlies that way so forgetting defaults to us getting paid rather than to us not getting paid.
[15:55:46] <paulej72> plus with our system you get reminded, but not forced to pay again
[15:56:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, nicer for the users but harder on us paying the bills.
[15:56:43] <paulej72> does bit pay have such a system
[15:57:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, bitcoin isn't set up in a way that makes it possible.
[15:57:19] <paulej72> I would rather not piss off the users
[15:57:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'd wanna do a poll/article first before line one was written on it
[15:58:00] <paulej72> plus it would be nice if all the payment systems were set up the same way
[15:58:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[15:59:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, i wonder how many people are using pwnies...
[16:00:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly look later
[16:00:16] <paulej72> we cshould do 6 months for 25. that way people would get a discount for paying further ahead, year could be 45
[16:01:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> might should run a poll on it. offer several different price points as options n see which gets us the most interest.
[16:02:41] <paulej72> adding monthly and half year would not be any harder than adding just monthly
[16:03:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, i meant for price points. 45/25/5 vs 30/15/5 vs etc...
[16:03:44] <paulej72> yep
[16:04:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> grounds of higher prices not always meaning more moneys curve type thing
[16:04:37] <paulej72> true
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[16:06:25] <janrinok> hi nick
[16:06:25] <ciri> hi there janrinok
[16:06:26] <paulej72> I am thinking that some JS might be a good thing on this page, to do a bit of math check on the variable dollar amounts. would aso check on the back end so it would be just a nice to have
[16:06:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ack! who are you and what have you done with paulej72!?
[16:07:05] <n1> hi janrinok
[16:07:11] * mrcoolbp wakes up
[16:07:18] <mrcoolbp> hey guys
[16:07:29] <n1> ahoy mrcoolbp
[16:07:34] <janrinok> hi mrcoolbp
[16:07:34] <ciri> hello, whats up janrinok
[16:07:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, nick/mrcoolbp
[16:07:48] <paulej72> this would be a very small script and would only load on this page
[16:08:04] <paulej72> and would work without it
[16:08:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, thas fine then
[16:08:17] <janrinok> afternoon TheMightyBuzzard, paulej72
[16:08:22] <paulej72> hello
[16:09:12] * janrinok wonders if he should have asked that question about variable subs....
[16:09:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> bear in mind any time a change needs made to it ima totally push it off on you on account of hating js
[16:10:15] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: I was looking into backup solutions this morning. I think oxygen is still one of our best options. can you let me know who we have that with if you know
[16:10:43] <mrcoolbp> paulej72 no idea, I'be been pestering NC on it, I'm just going to call him today
[16:11:38] <paulej72> stay on the line until he does it 😃
[16:11:45] <mrcoolbp> yup.
[16:12:24] <mrcoolbp> we are also going to move on the stock tranfer ASAP so we can start prepping our books for taxes
[16:12:24] <paulej72> also if you talk to home ask him if he can up my linode logon to full admin status so I can edit users on the account
[16:12:33] <mrcoolbp> copy that paulej72
[16:12:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> nother thing i been thinking about... ya reckon we should start encrypting user email addresses so in case of a db-only compromise nothing valuable is lost?
[16:12:56] <paulej72> s/home/him/
[16:12:56] <sedctl> <paulej72> also if you talk to him ask him if he can up my linode logon to full admin status so I can edit users on the account
[16:13:58] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: it would need to be some kind of reversible encryption so we can use the addresses
[16:14:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i was thinking good ole aes
[16:14:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> store the key the same way though slightly different place than we store the db access stuff
[16:15:15] <paulej72> copy that
[16:15:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a to-do item after we square away all the billing fun though.
[16:16:19] <paulej72> yeah that sounds good
[16:18:03] <mrcoolbp> lot-o-backlog on that stuff, can TMB or PJ give me a brief update on if we made any progress with new billing option (s) ?
[16:18:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, pj is gonna look into monthly tomorrow was it? adding another provider after i get done moving.
[16:19:08] <mrcoolbp> sweet
[16:19:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta be separate time things though cause of all the code changes to billing either would cause.
[16:19:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> go changing code undersomeone and only badness can happen.
[16:20:17] <paulej72> yes tomorrow
[16:20:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> documentation would be the really suck part for me. i don't mind writing perl but i hate writing english.
[16:21:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe i could write a perl script to write the english docs for me...
[16:22:31] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: what about wildcard cert, we didn't purchase IIRC, should we do that?
[16:23:50] <paulej72> no as it would not wok with our current system setup at this time
[16:24:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> we actually got both a "it would" and an "it wouldn't" from them but yeah no real special need for it immediately. we got no nexuses ready to go right now.
[16:25:16] <mrcoolbp> yeah that's a nice-to-have, and not at the top of my list
[16:25:28] <mrcoolbp> but I'd like to figure it out eventually
[16:25:29] <paulej72> plus I think it would be possible to do nexus without a wildcard
[16:25:34] <mrcoolbp> oh interesting
[16:25:59] <mrcoolbp> just soylentnews.org/XXnexuseXX/ kinda thing?
[16:25:59] <paulej72> SN.org/nexus1
[16:26:02] <mrcoolbp> lol
[16:26:02] <ciri> rofl
[16:26:04] <mrcoolbp> nijaed
[16:26:11] <mrcoolbp> ninja-ed
[16:26:21] <paulej72> i bleed
[16:26:25] * mrcoolbp needs more coffee++
[16:27:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally i find that not aesthetically pleasing. plus i was considering adding my own ip to dns and ninjaing the cert for personal ssl use =P
[16:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, the dns i might actually do but the cert almost certainly not. don't want it anywhere insecure.
[16:28:26] * mrcoolbp is insecure enough already
[16:29:04] * paulej72 hands mrcoolbp a teddy bear
[16:29:26] <mrcoolbp> much better
[16:29:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i would be too if it weren't for: https://www.youtube.com
[16:29:30] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Enormous Penis a cappella (Da Vinci's Notebook) - YouTube
[16:29:51] <paulej72> not touching that one
[16:29:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> not precisely safe for work but hilarious
[16:30:01] <paulej72> nsrem
[16:30:17] <paulej72> stupid spell check
[16:30:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually i totally woulda played that at the last ISP i admin'd for.
[16:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> course that was the late 90s early 00s. juvenile senses of humor were expected from all tech workers.
[16:32:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> spose it's SFW if you have headphones. is a song n only shows an album cover.
[16:33:16] * TheMightyBuzzard misses konomi
[16:33:58] <paulej72> !seen kong I
[16:33:59] <ciri> paulej72, I don't remember seeing kong.
[16:34:15] <paulej72> !seen konomi
[16:34:15] <ciri> I found 2 matches to your query (sorted): KonomiNetbook Konomi. KonomiNetbook (~Konomi@Soylent/Users/189/Konomi) was last seen parting #soylent 19 days, 5 hours, 19 minutes ago stating "{}".
[16:34:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> no seen anymore
[16:34:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~last konomi
[16:34:48] <paulej72> ciri has seen
[16:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> $seen konomi
[16:35:03] <aqu4> I last saw Konomi at 2015-02-01 09:51:24 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "gay ;p"
[16:35:12] <paulej72> 0,1I found 2 matches to your query (sorted): KonomiNetbook Konomi. KonomiNetbook (~Konomi@Soylent/Users/189/Konomi) was last seen parting 15irc:///#soylent0,1 19 days, 5 hours, 19 minutes ago stating "{}
[16:35:13] <exec> last privmsg for konomi in #soylent: [2015-02-01 09:52:09] gay ;p
[16:35:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, see i have ciri on ignore cause the useful does not make up for the annoying.
[16:50:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Peter Oborne, and Leaving The Telegraph - http://sylnt.us - thus-was-SoylentNews-born
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[17:05:33] <ar> huh
[17:05:40] <ar> where's konomi? :<
[17:11:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, maybe EF finally ran her off
[17:14:27] <ar> :<
[17:14:32] * ar has a sad
[17:17:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i has one of them too. she was fun.
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[18:21:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Deadly Superbugs Are Being Spread By A Common Medical Tool - http://sylnt.us - sterilize-that-thing
[18:25:34] * SirFinkus thinks he may have a deadly superbug right now
[18:26:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> batbug > superbug http://thestudioexec.com
[18:26:56] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Studio Exec ZACH SNYDER POSTS NEW BATMOBILE PIC - The Studio Exec
[18:28:40] <arti> http://thestudioexec.com
[18:28:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Studio Exec JACK NICHOLSON TO RETURN AS THE JOKER - The Studio Exec
[18:29:15] <arti> "At first I didn’t want to play the same part. I thought Heath Ledger did a splendid job, truly splendid. But then when David came and showed me the script, I thought this is truly wonderful. But still I can’t do it, I’m too old for this. Then I called Jennifer Lawrence and she said she loved comic book movies and next day I was in costume."
[18:29:24] <arti> ...jENNIFER lAWRENCE.
[18:29:31] <arti> oops, reverse caps
[18:31:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i know she's certainly MY life coach...
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[18:46:51] <arti> https://vimeo.com
[18:46:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03AFTERGLOW - Lightsuit Segment on Vimeo
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[20:28:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Dolly Parton has large boobs. That is all. You can go back about your business.
[20:32:03] <JamesNZ> Great to see you too TheMightyBuzzard :P
[20:32:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> some things just warrant reiterating now and then. epic boobage is one such thing.
[20:33:24] <paulej72> I may tryig to find a hosing serive that uses spinning rust so we can get a server that has more backup space
[20:34:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i swear, it'd be so much easier to run this out of my garage. head down to wal-mart n buy a 4TB drive. sorted.
[20:35:29] <CoolHand> TheMightyBuzzard: If you could get a fat pipe to your garage, it might be..
[20:36:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really necessary for SN yet. even my 250GB/mo cap wouldn't be an issue.
[20:36:24] <CoolHand> paulej72: have u priced out "online backup services" ? maybe cheaper better solution than servers with spiing rust?
[20:36:47] <mechanicjay> If only I were setup from my move...
[20:37:01] <paulej72> looked at that too. very expenive for a company that supports linux as we have to get a business plan
[20:37:02] <mechanicjay> Business class connection coming to my house soon, but not soon enough
[20:37:22] <paulej72> how soon mechanicjay
[20:37:23] <ciri> you talking to me?
[20:41:05] <JamesNZ> ciri--
[20:41:05] <Bender> karma - ciri: -36
[20:42:15] <mechanicjay> a few weeks, maybe a month
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[20:54:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, balls cold with a chance of snow and abysmal fishing forecast to boot this weekend
[20:55:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus my cherry tree is already budded out and the freeze will mean no cherries this year
[20:56:53] <paulej72> well you would not be arround to enjoy it anyway, but I still feel bad for you.
[21:00:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, true nuff. i've only ever gotten two cherries ripe on the bloody thing though and a tornado blew those off.
[21:00:53] <paulej72> I wonder if we can cut our backups down to some resonable number by just backing up the critical stuff. /etc backups of mysql, /srv/soylentnew.org
[21:01:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly. makes for a more complicated setup but can drastically decrease what needs backed up.
[21:01:38] <paulej72> If we could do that then it would be possible to get away with using didgital ocean.
[21:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> or we could do backups less often
[21:02:53] <paulej72> get adigital ocena 1GB nodes and have like 25GB of storage avail
[21:03:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> we SHOULD only be doing backups of files when those files change. db needs to be backed up often though.
[21:03:44] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard, I could setup backups of critical things to other lindodes on a nightly basis, and do weekly transfers to do
[21:04:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, thas prolly better.
[21:04:34] <CoolHand> rsync/rsnapshot..
[21:04:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> and only keep a week's worth of backups on the linodes
[21:04:52] <paulej72> sure to both of you
[21:05:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> if there's no difference between /etc and backed up /etc, we shouldn't be backing it up again though.
[21:06:00] <paulej72> i already set the db prod backup to save to helium as well as an copy to neon
[21:06:38] <paulej72> rsync should be good for that. Do a rotate on the db backups. My scripts already do that
[21:06:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[21:07:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we should keep one weekly, one monthly, and then a daily backup of the db
[21:07:26] <paulej72> As I had more space on oxygen I was doing manual cleanup on the dbs, but I can make that automatic with a new setup
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[21:07:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> no need for daily ones stretching back for months. a week will do then make the newest one the new weekly
[21:08:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause frankly if we have to roll back a month, we're going to lose record of subscribers which ain't acceptable.
[21:08:46] <arti> are you guys migrating off of linode?
[21:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, offsite backups
[21:08:59] * arti uses DO for that
[21:09:04] <paulej72> It is nice to have a db dump before we modify for major deploys
[21:09:26] <paulej72> yeah arti looking at DO as well
[21:09:49] <arti> works nicely, been meaning to scope out ramnode too
[21:10:48] <arti> had a lot of fun setting up my backup scripts
[21:11:39] <paulej72> like ramnode better they give 75GB of drive space for $10
[21:13:32] <paulej72> oh better they have ssd-cached servers that giv you 200GB storage for $10/month
[21:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like a winner to me
[21:15:16] <paulej72> need to see if they do IPV6
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[21:25:40] <paulej72> arti, have you heard of any other providers that we should look into.
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[22:56:01] <crutchy> coffee++
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[23:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[23:08:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1095
[23:17:31] <crutchy> i've moved to my work dev vbox
[23:17:53] <crutchy> first time in months i actually feel like doing some coding again for work
[23:18:26] <crutchy> (at home anyway)
[23:27:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[23:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> work at home, they are paying you for this i hope?
[23:30:04] <crutchy> nah
[23:30:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't do it! it's a trap!
[23:30:49] <crutchy> its all part of my master plan for job security :p
[23:31:23] <crutchy> and i'm not very enterprising
[23:31:42] <crutchy> meh
[23:31:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> job security? why would you want a job that asks you to work for free though?
[23:32:19] <crutchy> they don't ask me
[23:32:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooooh okay, you're just insane then. that's fine.
[23:32:44] <crutchy> insanity++
[23:32:44] <Bender> karma - insanity: 1
[23:32:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> sanity--
[23:32:52] <Bender> karma - sanity: -1
[23:34:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> sneak peak of the upcoming finances FA http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[23:34:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Finances
[23:35:38] <crutchy> wow that seems like a lot
[23:35:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i still think that's not quite right
[23:36:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, accountant won't run as much next year i don't spect and we basically forgot to include the entire business end of things last time.
[23:36:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> but some of them things only happen in the first six months of the year.
[23:36:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> accountant, taxes, yadda yadda
[23:37:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> hosting is the main thing that keeps happening all year round
[23:38:25] <crutchy> yeah. could axe a few of the boxes i reckon
[23:38:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> some yeah, hosting's really not that bad though. remembering to pay your taxes and such is what almost got us.
[23:39:23] <crutchy> might even be able to farm irc services to some nerdy members
[23:39:44] <crutchy> 4 or 5 irc servers in a network would be nice
[23:39:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> could but we could run an irc server on any of the boxes
[23:40:24] * mrcoolbp is here to atone for our accounting woes
[23:40:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> we are looking to trim the fat soon, just not something you can count on till it's done though
[23:40:34] <mrcoolbp> ^^
[23:40:36] <crutchy> prolly would just wanna avoid putting it on the apache box
[23:40:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, you forget the franchise tax or is it gone?
[23:41:18] <crutchy> franchise tax? wtf!?
[23:41:20] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[23:41:23] <mrcoolbp> uh
[23:41:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> oops?
[23:41:43] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: this goal is proving difficult to make
[23:41:50] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[23:42:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> second half should be easy though
[23:42:12] <mrcoolbp> only logical way I can see to do it is to take the $3700 we "earned" and take out what SN has actually paid for
[23:42:17] <crutchy> should've incorporated outside the united states of big government bureaucracy
[23:42:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, forget last year except the cash we carried over
[23:42:40] <mrcoolbp> crutchy when 90% of the people that work on SN are in the US that becomes difficult
[23:43:01] <crutchy> yeah i guess
[23:43:04] <crutchy> bummer though
[23:43:16] <mrcoolbp> TMB: it's more complicated then that
[23:44:12] <crutchy> can we re-incorporate in russia? i'm sure everything is pretty cheap there atm
[23:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> is not, this isn't taxes but an informal financial statement. long as we do em the same every time we should be good however we do them.
[23:44:27] <crutchy> hell we could pay some poor russian patsy to act as our ceo
[23:44:28] * mrcoolbp pulls up the bank account again
[23:45:22] <crutchy> or a poor pommy one :p
[23:45:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, that list isn't counting cash on hand so forget cash on hand and just tell em what we gotta pay this year, jan on. you can figure out where we stand cash-wise for the beg-o-meter later.
[23:45:58] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: okay, so take all costs (paid), and all projected costs until June right?
[23:46:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> for this year and july not june
[23:46:21] <crutchy> surely all your tax would be written off, no?
[23:46:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> one two three four five six
[23:46:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> or june, i can't count
[23:46:39] <mrcoolbp> lol
[23:46:39] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[23:46:43] <crutchy> 3
[23:46:45] <ciri> 4
[23:46:46] <ciri> 5
[23:46:48] <ciri> 6
[23:46:50] <ciri> 7
[23:46:52] <ciri> 8
[23:46:54] <ciri> 9
[23:46:56] <ciri> 10!
[23:46:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> march! hurry or it'll be too late!
[23:47:03] <mrcoolbp> omg
[23:47:08] <crutchy> it will be smarch soon
[23:47:16] <crutchy> lousy smarch weather
[23:47:19] <mrcoolbp> okay, so let me work up Jan-now expenses sec...
[23:47:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima go make food now. don't try over-thinking too hard.
[23:48:02] <mechanicjay> do we not have an "/ignore" command?
[23:48:07] <crutchy> just tell the irs you're a democrat and they'll think you're a retard and do your taxes for you
[23:48:18] <crutchy> they might pay them for you too
[23:48:24] <crutchy> and give you an EBT
[23:48:31] <crutchy> card
[23:48:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth. they only audit tea party lately
[23:48:45] * TheMightyBuzzard scoots out to the stove
[23:49:40] <crutchy> mechanicjay, dunno if there's one on the server except for .kick :p
[23:50:02] <mrcoolbp> oh hosting+backup estimate is actualy $1950
[23:55:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Origami Microscope for Under a Dollar: Foldscope - http://sylnt.us - something-to-do-this-weekend
[23:55:49] <mrcoolbp> TheMighty
[23:55:52] <mrcoolbp> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[23:55:52] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03Wiki: Finances
[23:56:06] <mrcoolbp> okay, that's more accurate costs Jan-June
[23:56:14] <mrcoolbp> buffer is now $250
[23:57:00] <mrcoolbp> we could call it an even $5000, maybe the buffer should be refered to as a stretch goal item, enabling O.C. or other endeavors
[23:59:50] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: our tax will likely be written off. We are on the hook for a flat DE tax and a MA tax