#Soylent | Logs for 2015-02-20

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[23:59:50] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: our tax will likely be written off. We are on the hook for a flat DE tax and a MA tax
[23:57:00] <mrcoolbp> we could call it an even $5000, maybe the buffer should be refered to as a stretch goal item, enabling O.C. or other endeavors
[23:56:14] <mrcoolbp> buffer is now $250
[23:56:06] <mrcoolbp> okay, that's more accurate costs Jan-June
[23:55:52] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03Wiki: Finances
[23:55:52] <mrcoolbp> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[23:55:49] <mrcoolbp> TheMighty
[23:55:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Origami Microscope for Under a Dollar: Foldscope - http://sylnt.us - something-to-do-this-weekend
[23:50:02] <mrcoolbp> oh hosting+backup estimate is actualy $1950
[23:49:40] <crutchy> mechanicjay, dunno if there's one on the server except for .kick :p
[23:48:45] * TheMightyBuzzard scoots out to the stove
[23:48:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth. they only audit tea party lately
[23:48:31] <crutchy> card
[23:48:24] <crutchy> and give you an EBT
[23:48:18] <crutchy> they might pay them for you too
[23:48:07] <crutchy> just tell the irs you're a democrat and they'll think you're a retard and do your taxes for you
[23:48:02] <mechanicjay> do we not have an "/ignore" command?
[23:47:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima go make food now. don't try over-thinking too hard.
[23:47:19] <mrcoolbp> okay, so let me work up Jan-now expenses sec...
[23:47:16] <crutchy> lousy smarch weather
[23:47:08] <crutchy> it will be smarch soon
[23:47:03] <mrcoolbp> omg
[23:46:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> march! hurry or it'll be too late!
[23:46:56] <ciri> 10!
[23:46:54] <ciri> 9
[23:46:52] <ciri> 8
[23:46:50] <ciri> 7
[23:46:48] <ciri> 6
[23:46:46] <ciri> 5
[23:46:45] <ciri> 4
[23:46:43] <crutchy> 3
[23:46:39] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[23:46:39] <mrcoolbp> lol
[23:46:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> or june, i can't count
[23:46:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> one two three four five six
[23:46:21] <crutchy> surely all your tax would be written off, no?
[23:46:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> for this year and july not june
[23:45:58] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: okay, so take all costs (paid), and all projected costs until June right?
[23:45:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, that list isn't counting cash on hand so forget cash on hand and just tell em what we gotta pay this year, jan on. you can figure out where we stand cash-wise for the beg-o-meter later.
[23:45:22] <crutchy> or a poor pommy one :p
[23:44:28] * mrcoolbp pulls up the bank account again
[23:44:27] <crutchy> hell we could pay some poor russian patsy to act as our ceo
[23:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> is not, this isn't taxes but an informal financial statement. long as we do em the same every time we should be good however we do them.
[23:44:12] <crutchy> can we re-incorporate in russia? i'm sure everything is pretty cheap there atm
[23:43:16] <mrcoolbp> TMB: it's more complicated then that
[23:43:04] <crutchy> bummer though
[23:43:01] <crutchy> yeah i guess
[23:42:40] <mrcoolbp> crutchy when 90% of the people that work on SN are in the US that becomes difficult
[23:42:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, forget last year except the cash we carried over
[23:42:17] <crutchy> should've incorporated outside the united states of big government bureaucracy
[23:42:12] <mrcoolbp> only logical way I can see to do it is to take the $3700 we "earned" and take out what SN has actually paid for
[23:42:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> second half should be easy though
[23:41:50] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[23:41:43] <mrcoolbp> TheMightyBuzzard: this goal is proving difficult to make
[23:41:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> oops?
[23:41:23] <mrcoolbp> uh
[23:41:20] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[23:41:18] <crutchy> franchise tax? wtf!?
[23:40:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, you forget the franchise tax or is it gone?
[23:40:36] <crutchy> prolly would just wanna avoid putting it on the apache box
[23:40:34] <mrcoolbp> ^^
[23:40:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> we are looking to trim the fat soon, just not something you can count on till it's done though
[23:40:24] * mrcoolbp is here to atone for our accounting woes
[23:39:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> could but we could run an irc server on any of the boxes
[23:39:44] <crutchy> 4 or 5 irc servers in a network would be nice
[23:39:23] <crutchy> might even be able to farm irc services to some nerdy members
[23:38:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> some yeah, hosting's really not that bad though. remembering to pay your taxes and such is what almost got us.
[23:38:25] <crutchy> yeah. could axe a few of the boxes i reckon
[23:37:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> hosting is the main thing that keeps happening all year round
[23:36:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> accountant, taxes, yadda yadda
[23:36:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> but some of them things only happen in the first six months of the year.
[23:36:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, accountant won't run as much next year i don't spect and we basically forgot to include the entire business end of things last time.
[23:35:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i still think that's not quite right
[23:35:38] <crutchy> wow that seems like a lot
[23:34:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Finances
[23:34:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> sneak peak of the upcoming finances FA http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[23:32:52] <Bender> karma - sanity: -1
[23:32:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> sanity--
[23:32:44] <Bender> karma - insanity: 1
[23:32:44] <crutchy> insanity++
[23:32:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooooh okay, you're just insane then. that's fine.
[23:32:19] <crutchy> they don't ask me
[23:31:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> job security? why would you want a job that asks you to work for free though?
[23:31:42] <crutchy> meh
[23:31:23] <crutchy> and i'm not very enterprising
[23:30:49] <crutchy> its all part of my master plan for job security :p
[23:30:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't do it! it's a trap!
[23:30:04] <crutchy> nah
[23:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> work at home, they are paying you for this i hope?
[23:27:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> har
[23:18:26] <crutchy> (at home anyway)
[23:17:53] <crutchy> first time in months i actually feel like doing some coding again for work
[23:17:31] <crutchy> i've moved to my work dev vbox
[23:08:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1095
[23:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[22:56:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1094
[22:56:01] <crutchy> coffee++
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[21:25:40] <paulej72> arti, have you heard of any other providers that we should look into.
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[21:15:16] <paulej72> need to see if they do IPV6
[21:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like a winner to me
[21:13:32] <paulej72> oh better they have ssd-cached servers that giv you 200GB storage for $10/month
[21:11:39] <paulej72> like ramnode better they give 75GB of drive space for $10
[21:10:48] <arti> had a lot of fun setting up my backup scripts
[21:09:49] <arti> works nicely, been meaning to scope out ramnode too
[21:09:26] <paulej72> yeah arti looking at DO as well
[21:09:04] <paulej72> It is nice to have a db dump before we modify for major deploys
[21:08:59] * arti uses DO for that
[21:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, offsite backups
[21:08:46] <arti> are you guys migrating off of linode?
[21:08:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause frankly if we have to roll back a month, we're going to lose record of subscribers which ain't acceptable.
[21:07:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> no need for daily ones stretching back for months. a week will do then make the newest one the new weekly
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[21:07:26] <paulej72> As I had more space on oxygen I was doing manual cleanup on the dbs, but I can make that automatic with a new setup
[21:07:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we should keep one weekly, one monthly, and then a daily backup of the db
[21:06:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[21:06:38] <paulej72> rsync should be good for that. Do a rotate on the db backups. My scripts already do that
[21:06:00] <paulej72> i already set the db prod backup to save to helium as well as an copy to neon
[21:05:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> if there's no difference between /etc and backed up /etc, we shouldn't be backing it up again though.
[21:04:52] <paulej72> sure to both of you
[21:04:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> and only keep a week's worth of backups on the linodes
[21:04:34] <CoolHand> rsync/rsnapshot..
[21:04:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, thas prolly better.
[21:03:44] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard, I could setup backups of critical things to other lindodes on a nightly basis, and do weekly transfers to do
[21:03:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> we SHOULD only be doing backups of files when those files change. db needs to be backed up often though.
[21:02:53] <paulej72> get adigital ocena 1GB nodes and have like 25GB of storage avail
[21:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> or we could do backups less often
[21:01:38] <paulej72> If we could do that then it would be possible to get away with using didgital ocean.
[21:01:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly. makes for a more complicated setup but can drastically decrease what needs backed up.
[21:00:53] <paulej72> I wonder if we can cut our backups down to some resonable number by just backing up the critical stuff. /etc backups of mysql, /srv/soylentnew.org
[21:00:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, true nuff. i've only ever gotten two cherries ripe on the bloody thing though and a tornado blew those off.
[20:56:53] <paulej72> well you would not be arround to enjoy it anyway, but I still feel bad for you.
[20:55:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus my cherry tree is already budded out and the freeze will mean no cherries this year
[20:54:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, balls cold with a chance of snow and abysmal fishing forecast to boot this weekend
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[20:42:15] <mechanicjay> a few weeks, maybe a month
[20:41:05] <Bender> karma - ciri: -36
[20:41:05] <JamesNZ> ciri--
[20:37:23] <ciri> you talking to me?
[20:37:22] <paulej72> how soon mechanicjay
[20:37:02] <mechanicjay> Business class connection coming to my house soon, but not soon enough
[20:37:01] <paulej72> looked at that too. very expenive for a company that supports linux as we have to get a business plan
[20:36:47] <mechanicjay> If only I were setup from my move...
[20:36:24] <CoolHand> paulej72: have u priced out "online backup services" ? maybe cheaper better solution than servers with spiing rust?
[20:36:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really necessary for SN yet. even my 250GB/mo cap wouldn't be an issue.
[20:35:29] <CoolHand> TheMightyBuzzard: If you could get a fat pipe to your garage, it might be..
[20:34:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i swear, it'd be so much easier to run this out of my garage. head down to wal-mart n buy a 4TB drive. sorted.
[20:33:24] <paulej72> I may tryig to find a hosing serive that uses spinning rust so we can get a server that has more backup space
[20:32:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> some things just warrant reiterating now and then. epic boobage is one such thing.
[20:32:03] <JamesNZ> Great to see you too TheMightyBuzzard :P
[20:28:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Dolly Parton has large boobs. That is all. You can go back about your business.
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[18:46:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03AFTERGLOW - Lightsuit Segment on Vimeo
[18:46:51] <arti> https://vimeo.com
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[18:31:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i know she's certainly MY life coach...
[18:29:31] <arti> oops, reverse caps
[18:29:24] <arti> ...jENNIFER lAWRENCE.
[18:29:15] <arti> "At first I didn’t want to play the same part. I thought Heath Ledger did a splendid job, truly splendid. But then when David came and showed me the script, I thought this is truly wonderful. But still I can’t do it, I’m too old for this. Then I called Jennifer Lawrence and she said she loved comic book movies and next day I was in costume."
[18:28:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Studio Exec JACK NICHOLSON TO RETURN AS THE JOKER - The Studio Exec
[18:28:40] <arti> http://thestudioexec.com
[18:26:56] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Studio Exec ZACH SNYDER POSTS NEW BATMOBILE PIC - The Studio Exec
[18:26:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> batbug > superbug http://thestudioexec.com
[18:25:34] * SirFinkus thinks he may have a deadly superbug right now
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[17:17:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i has one of them too. she was fun.
[17:14:32] * ar has a sad
[17:14:27] <ar> :<
[17:11:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, maybe EF finally ran her off
[17:05:40] <ar> where's konomi? :<
[17:05:33] <ar> huh
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[16:50:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Peter Oborne, and Leaving The Telegraph - http://sylnt.us - thus-was-SoylentNews-born
[16:35:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, see i have ciri on ignore cause the useful does not make up for the annoying.
[16:35:13] <exec> last privmsg for konomi in #soylent: [2015-02-01 09:52:09] gay ;p
[16:35:12] <paulej72> 0,1I found 2 matches to your query (sorted): KonomiNetbook Konomi. KonomiNetbook (~Konomi@Soylent/Users/189/Konomi) was last seen parting 15irc:///#soylent0,1 19 days, 5 hours, 19 minutes ago stating "{}
[16:35:03] <aqu4> I last saw Konomi at 2015-02-01 09:51:24 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "gay ;p"
[16:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> $seen konomi
[16:34:48] <paulej72> ciri has seen
[16:34:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~last konomi
[16:34:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> no seen anymore
[16:34:15] <ciri> I found 2 matches to your query (sorted): KonomiNetbook Konomi. KonomiNetbook (~Konomi@Soylent/Users/189/Konomi) was last seen parting #soylent 19 days, 5 hours, 19 minutes ago stating "{}".
[16:34:15] <paulej72> !seen konomi
[16:33:59] <ciri> paulej72, I don't remember seeing kong.
[16:33:58] <paulej72> !seen kong I
[16:33:16] * TheMightyBuzzard misses konomi
[16:32:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> spose it's SFW if you have headphones. is a song n only shows an album cover.
[16:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> course that was the late 90s early 00s. juvenile senses of humor were expected from all tech workers.
[16:30:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> actually i totally woulda played that at the last ISP i admin'd for.
[16:30:17] <paulej72> stupid spell check
[16:30:01] <paulej72> nsrem
[16:29:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> not precisely safe for work but hilarious
[16:29:51] <paulej72> not touching that one
[16:29:30] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Enormous Penis a cappella (Da Vinci's Notebook) - YouTube
[16:29:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i would be too if it weren't for: https://www.youtube.com
[16:29:26] <mrcoolbp> much better
[16:29:04] * paulej72 hands mrcoolbp a teddy bear
[16:28:26] * mrcoolbp is insecure enough already
[16:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, the dns i might actually do but the cert almost certainly not. don't want it anywhere insecure.
[16:27:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally i find that not aesthetically pleasing. plus i was considering adding my own ip to dns and ninjaing the cert for personal ssl use =P
[16:26:25] * mrcoolbp needs more coffee++
[16:26:21] <paulej72> i bleed
[16:26:11] <mrcoolbp> ninja-ed
[16:26:04] <mrcoolbp> nijaed
[16:26:02] <ciri> rofl
[16:26:02] <mrcoolbp> lol
[16:25:59] <paulej72> SN.org/nexus1
[16:25:59] <mrcoolbp> just soylentnews.org/XXnexuseXX/ kinda thing?
[16:25:34] <mrcoolbp> oh interesting
[16:25:29] <paulej72> plus I think it would be possible to do nexus without a wildcard
[16:25:28] <mrcoolbp> but I'd like to figure it out eventually
[16:25:16] <mrcoolbp> yeah that's a nice-to-have, and not at the top of my list
[16:24:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> we actually got both a "it would" and an "it wouldn't" from them but yeah no real special need for it immediately. we got no nexuses ready to go right now.
[16:23:50] <paulej72> no as it would not wok with our current system setup at this time
[16:22:31] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: what about wildcard cert, we didn't purchase IIRC, should we do that?
[16:21:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe i could write a perl script to write the english docs for me...
[16:20:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> documentation would be the really suck part for me. i don't mind writing perl but i hate writing english.
[16:20:17] <paulej72> yes tomorrow
[16:19:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> go changing code undersomeone and only badness can happen.
[16:19:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta be separate time things though cause of all the code changes to billing either would cause.
[16:19:08] <mrcoolbp> sweet
[16:18:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, pj is gonna look into monthly tomorrow was it? adding another provider after i get done moving.
[16:18:03] <mrcoolbp> lot-o-backlog on that stuff, can TMB or PJ give me a brief update on if we made any progress with new billing option (s) ?
[16:16:19] <paulej72> yeah that sounds good
[16:15:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a to-do item after we square away all the billing fun though.
[16:15:15] <paulej72> copy that
[16:14:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> store the key the same way though slightly different place than we store the db access stuff
[16:14:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i was thinking good ole aes
[16:13:58] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: it would need to be some kind of reversible encryption so we can use the addresses
[16:12:56] <sedctl> <paulej72> also if you talk to him ask him if he can up my linode logon to full admin status so I can edit users on the account
[16:12:56] <paulej72> s/home/him/
[16:12:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> nother thing i been thinking about... ya reckon we should start encrypting user email addresses so in case of a db-only compromise nothing valuable is lost?
[16:12:33] <mrcoolbp> copy that paulej72
[16:12:24] <paulej72> also if you talk to home ask him if he can up my linode logon to full admin status so I can edit users on the account
[16:12:24] <mrcoolbp> we are also going to move on the stock tranfer ASAP so we can start prepping our books for taxes
[16:11:45] <mrcoolbp> yup.
[16:11:38] <paulej72> stay on the line until he does it 😃
[16:10:43] <mrcoolbp> paulej72 no idea, I'be been pestering NC on it, I'm just going to call him today
[16:10:15] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: I was looking into backup solutions this morning. I think oxygen is still one of our best options. can you let me know who we have that with if you know
[16:09:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> bear in mind any time a change needs made to it ima totally push it off on you on account of hating js
[16:09:12] * janrinok wonders if he should have asked that question about variable subs....
[16:08:22] <paulej72> hello
[16:08:17] <janrinok> afternoon TheMightyBuzzard, paulej72
[16:08:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, thas fine then
[16:08:04] <paulej72> and would work without it
[16:07:48] <paulej72> this would be a very small script and would only load on this page
[16:07:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, nick/mrcoolbp
[16:07:34] <ciri> hello, whats up janrinok
[16:07:34] <janrinok> hi mrcoolbp
[16:07:29] <n1> ahoy mrcoolbp
[16:07:18] <mrcoolbp> hey guys
[16:07:11] * mrcoolbp wakes up
[16:07:05] <n1> hi janrinok
[16:06:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ack! who are you and what have you done with paulej72!?
[16:06:26] <paulej72> I am thinking that some JS might be a good thing on this page, to do a bit of math check on the variable dollar amounts. would aso check on the back end so it would be just a nice to have
[16:06:25] <ciri> hi there janrinok
[16:06:25] <janrinok> hi nick
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[16:04:37] <paulej72> true
[16:04:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> grounds of higher prices not always meaning more moneys curve type thing
[16:03:44] <paulej72> yep
[16:03:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, i meant for price points. 45/25/5 vs 30/15/5 vs etc...
[16:02:41] <paulej72> adding monthly and half year would not be any harder than adding just monthly
[16:01:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> might should run a poll on it. offer several different price points as options n see which gets us the most interest.
[16:00:16] <paulej72> we cshould do 6 months for 25. that way people would get a discount for paying further ahead, year could be 45
[16:00:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly look later
[15:59:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, i wonder how many people are using pwnies...
[15:58:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[15:58:00] <paulej72> plus it would be nice if all the payment systems were set up the same way
[15:57:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i'd wanna do a poll/article first before line one was written on it
[15:57:19] <paulej72> I would rather not piss off the users
[15:57:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, bitcoin isn't set up in a way that makes it possible.
[15:56:43] <paulej72> does bit pay have such a system
[15:56:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, nicer for the users but harder on us paying the bills.
[15:55:46] <paulej72> plus with our system you get reminded, but not forced to pay again
[15:55:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly i'd rather do our monthlies that way so forgetting defaults to us getting paid rather than to us not getting paid.
[15:54:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[15:54:49] <paulej72> so does pp, but the system to do that is much different from what we are using now so I don't want to do it that way
[15:54:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we should bump yearlies up to six monthly subs worth or $30
[15:54:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> meaning they take care of the monthly billing automagically
[15:53:59] <paulej72> only takes four monthly subs for a yearly if we do five bucks
[15:53:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, stripe i believe allows subscriptions without us having to store cc info
[15:53:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe, i'm dubious
[15:53:24] <paulej72> yeah, it will be easily enough to code it in
[15:52:53] <paulej72> maybe but it should bring in more money
[15:52:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> so if you're gonna build something they want on one, build it on the other as well so we don't push them to monthly
[15:52:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly, yeah. monthly is going to cost us subscribers who forget to renew.
[15:51:55] <paulej72> that is why we have dev and pp sandbox
[15:51:22] <paulej72> I can add flexible payment amounts. I wonder if I should do that for both monthly and yearly
[15:50:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> billing's not really difficult, just have to be certain you're right when it goes live unlike other things where a bug doesn't cost anyone anything but embarrassment
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[15:50:15] <paulej72> I need to fix that logic anyway
[15:50:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you know it's there, which is why i brought it up
[15:49:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[15:49:44] <paulej72> easy to fix
[15:49:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> somewhere in the core logic. both paypal and bitcoin use it.
[15:49:06] <paulej72> do we, where is that?
[15:48:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now we reject payments if they're not equal to $20 as well so that needs to be removed
[15:48:08] <paulej72> only a half a dozen pages to update
[15:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds good
[15:47:16] <paulej72> I'll probably work on it tomorrow after the dog and pony show is over
[15:46:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> you n me have slightly different ideas of real easy but i know the code you're talking about.
[15:46:20] <paulej72> cool. looking at the code, I think I can add monthly real easy by just changing what gets passed between the pages and adding some more into that pass through the payment providers. I think I do not need to alter the logs tables, just what gets saved. we will be sending number of days as a car though the system instead of calculating it from the payment data.
[15:43:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> fairly sure anyway. been a couple months since i checked but i can't imagine i bookmarked it without it having one.
[15:43:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[15:43:21] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: does stipe have an perl Aoi
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[15:39:53] <paulej72> our current provider for oxygen gives lots of disk, iirc
[15:37:32] <CoolHand> paulej72: D.O. has ssd disks - so speed is nice, but usally less space from what i've seen compared to others for the same price (which isn't good for backup solutions)
[15:36:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> all three have to be done one after the other though cause the changes necessary for one will heavily influence the others.
[15:34:39] <paulej72> I need to find if the amount of disk space on digital ocean is enough for the site
[15:34:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> would still like to see tipping added for a good comment though.
[15:33:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> trying to ponder the next steps for coding. if you can get monthly billing done before i get around to coding again, i'm thinking of adding Stripe to our list of payment solution providers.
[15:32:22] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[15:32:20] <CoolHand> I'm sure it's different for that
[15:32:15] <CoolHand> n/m.. i thought u were talking personal use.. not site use
[15:31:37] <CoolHand> what is wrong with digital ocean? it's only 5/month and has some nice *nix options
[15:29:48] <paulej72> making it more expensive than linode
[15:29:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean they say nobody ever got fired for buying microsoft but no web box admin ever got fired for using LAMP
[15:29:07] <paulej72> the business plans are 10 per machine per month
[15:28:18] <paulej72> crashplan has a nice family plan price that would work well, but is not licensed for business
[15:28:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is insane given the prevalence of linux servers on the net.
[15:27:46] <paulej72> they have very nice smb pricing, but no Linux support
[15:27:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[15:27:11] <paulej72> if only carbonite had a Linux client, then I would look into using that.
[15:26:38] <paulej72> I still think oxygen is the best choice to do our backups
[15:25:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[15:25:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> not holding my breath but it wouldn't suck.
[15:25:32] <paulej72> I would be happy just getting a login to oxygens account
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[15:24:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully NC will feel the bug of getting apache2 working again soon and we can leave off custom compiles
[15:24:11] <paulej72> the other good thing about oxygen was it was setup to auto vpn over ip6 so we were not paying transfer charges on the linode side
[15:23:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah we prolly needed some specific libs installed to build apache proper like.
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[15:22:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[15:22:25] <paulej72> plus we should make a list of installed apps and back that up periodically
[15:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> now irc on the other hand...
[15:21:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya think? i think dev and the staff slash could die with little to no real loss in time recreating them.
[15:21:44] <paulej72> and /root
[15:21:38] <paulej72> and /home
[15:21:23] <paulej72> I like backing up /etc
[15:20:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> but then i been accused of overconfidence once or twice.
[15:20:53] <paulej72> we should also be doing db dumps of every db periodically and saving the backups
[15:20:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> and only back up the /srv/soylentnews.org dir and a db dump.
[15:19:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i woulda just had fluorine and one of the db boxes do backups. prolly bzip2'd
[15:19:53] <paulej72> I am all for doing selective backups of certain directories.
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[15:19:04] <paulej72> I would need to look at the used file size on each machine
[15:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit painful, that
[15:18:31] <paulej72> Ncommander has the current system do full backus iirc.
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[15:17:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> how much disk space you expect we're talking by the way? might not be a bad idea for some of the admin types to keep their own backups.
[15:16:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds good
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[15:16:29] <paulej72> baby sitting presentation right now as I look up info on backup systems
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[15:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, yo
[15:14:52] <paulej72> hello all
[15:06:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin janrinok
[15:04:23] <CoolHand> hey janrinok
[14:51:20] <janrinok> hi guys
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[13:09:45] <LaminatorX> Good luck!
[13:07:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, off to get some more pre-move stuff squared
[13:05:37] <crutchy> come to straya. find a few acres and build yourself a big shed
[13:03:53] <LaminatorX> Yeah, sounds like an office-office might be in order.
[13:02:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> but then i may decide to get a place out there too when i get bored and get/create another job.
[13:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean like i have three bedrooms used for storage/office and a shop building full of power tools. odds of finding space for all that is kinda slim.
[12:59:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely we'll take some vacation after a year or two and sell most of what's still in storage.
[12:58:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> storage prolly won't be unpacked for a long time. going from two pretty good sized houses down to one when we find it.
[12:58:13] <crutchy> *so no
[12:58:02] <crutchy> what so sorority chicks?
[12:58:02] <LaminatorX> Maybe even long term business hotel suite. Don't even unpack from storage until you've got the right place.
[12:57:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads no. we're old and need our quiet and sleep.
[12:57:16] <crutchy> frat house?
[12:56:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> till then it's cheap and temporary
[12:56:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah we're looking for a place that will rent month to month so we can look for an actual good house with proper storage capacity for a big trailer.
[12:56:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh
[12:55:46] <LaminatorX> Two houses ago we ended up renting it back to the people we just bought it from for two months since something went south with their purchase. Thankfully our landlord was cool with us going month-to-month for a bit at the end.
[12:55:41] <crutchy> in a shitty blizzard no doubt?
[12:55:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially fun since the first part is a ~600mi drive to find a place, then back to pack up n stuff a storage building, then turn around and actually do the moving.
[12:54:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> yurp
[12:54:02] <LaminatorX> Ugh, that's awful.
[12:53:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i fully expect to get a call saying "okay, we're moving today." sometime in the next three weeks.
[12:53:15] <LaminatorX> Yay, boxes!
[12:53:12] <crutchy> i only worked about 36 hours this week it felt longer. stressful weeks wreck me
[12:52:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> happens. i had plenty of time but been spending most of it getting ready to move only to be told it's in a holding pattern yet again.
[12:52:26] * LaminatorX is currently in the office 1/2 hour early.
[12:52:06] <LaminatorX> I've been struggling with time myself. New job has less time available for irc and such than old job did.
[12:51:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, i got that done.
[12:51:06] <LaminatorX> Prospective new editor. He should have rights on the dev site.
[12:51:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> may still gonna be and just got busy. who knows?
[12:50:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, he was gonner be an editor
[12:50:52] <LaminatorX> Gotcha, thanks.
[12:50:46] <crutchy> is Lancepodstrong on the dev team?
[12:50:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't heard from lancepodstrong since he got privs and such but Subsentient could still use some wrangling. he been slacking off on training for months now.
[12:49:56] <LaminatorX> MMMMMmmmm, spew.
[12:49:36] * exec dexterously slides a blagoblag of spew to LaminatorX
[12:49:34] <crutchy> ~g'day LaminatorX
[12:49:25] <LaminatorX> Hey there.
[12:49:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, LaminatorX
[12:49:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> holy crap it lives!
[12:49:10] <crutchy> i really need to implement some sort of template system into the engineering app i developed for work. it evolved with embedded html and inline css and all sorts of nasties
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[12:47:06] <crutchy> yeah mine's pretty simple
[12:46:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> just be glad you ain't having to use slash's templating system
[12:45:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[12:45:42] <crutchy> homebrew. frameworks are shit
[12:45:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> roll your own templating system or use a pre-made one?
[12:37:40] <crutchy> fixed up my little templating thingy a bit. works pretty well now
[12:36:00] <crutchy> they always been pretty shocking, and they always play during prime time
[12:35:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03"Bush Telegraph" TAC Drink Drive TV ad - YouTube
[12:35:38] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:35:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk re-coffee-ing
[12:34:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> there is in fact fuck all for public transportation anywhere outside major cities here.
[12:34:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03"Never" TAC Drink Drive TV ad - YouTube
[12:34:03] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:32:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that we have cabs but still
[12:32:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally i think if your chin is over the bar, you should be able to order a drink in said bar. would lead to a lot less stupid with the bartender and other folks saying call a cab
[12:31:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's just a country thing out here. teens are gonna be on the dirt roads drinking friday-saturday nights cause that's where they can do it and get left alone.
[12:30:14] <crutchy> in the 70's drink driving was just about a social norm, but for years we've grown up with some pretty well made ads that have changed our culture a bit
[12:28:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to be we'd all go out drinking and driving around the back roads. then a friend rolled his shit and the guy riding with him died. not so much on the drunk driving since then even on back roads.
[12:27:23] <crutchy> nod
[12:27:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> problematic when cresting hills cause so does the other guy who's about to hit you head on
[12:26:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah you gotta stay in the smooth ruts if you're speeding on dirt.
[12:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[12:26:07] <crutchy> though we lost traction cos one side of the car was in the soft shit on the side (guy driving was pretty bad for cutting corners)
[12:25:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> hate those
[12:25:24] <crutchy> yup
[12:25:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> you lot get washboard out there as well, yeah? regular little bumps that run sideways across the road and give you terrible traction?
[12:24:36] <crutchy> after we fishtailed a few times we were at right angles with the road and rolled
[12:24:10] <crutchy> what flipped us i think was those bumps that you get drom tractor tyres
[12:24:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> never been in one in a proper car. only go-karts and dune buggys.
[12:23:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ick
[12:23:38] <crutchy> when i was passenger in rollover i reckon we were prolly doing 140 when we hit the kitty litter
[12:23:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> must have higher quality dirt roads than us then. ours are very often quite washboarded
[12:22:25] <crutchy> often 100km/hr i guess
[12:22:14] <crutchy> we don't really have a fixed speed for dirt. its just whatever is posted
[12:22:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> silly little kms
[12:21:47] <crutchy> 72km/hr
[12:18:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> random factoid, dirt roads in this state are 45mph unless otherwise posted.
[12:17:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> was actually more like: I can't even give you a ticket for that, I'd just have to shoot you. Don't let me see you driving that thing for at least a week.
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[12:16:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> cop liked us though so he just told my cousin he was grounded from driving for a week.
[12:16:17] <crutchy> nice one
[12:16:10] <crutchy> hahaha
[12:16:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> cousin to cop: slowing down.
[12:15:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> cop to my cousin: What in the fuck do you think you're doing coming into town doing 138mph on a dirt road?
[12:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> amusing yet true snippet out of my life...
[12:14:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, been driving dirt roads all my life. most roads around OK are dirt.
[12:14:48] <crutchy> this was in a ford falcon xd
[12:14:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> will say pontiac made their grand am pretty sturdy
[12:14:27] <crutchy> i don't even like driving on dirt since that
[12:14:15] <crutchy> i've been in one rollover. that's one too many for me
[12:14:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, poor mom's car
[12:13:54] <crutchy> nice
[12:13:47] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[12:13:47] <crutchy> lol
[12:13:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> were these short little bridges over creeks with steep approaches that if you hit at 60+mpg would straight up Dukes of Hazard launch your ass.
[12:12:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i used to get both sides of the car airborne when i was a teenager. at the same time.
[12:12:02] <crutchy> if you're not getting one side of the car airborne you're doin it wrong
[12:10:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> 200mph is still 200mph, even in a circle
[12:10:46] <crutchy> (bathurst)
[12:10:25] <crutchy> try driving mount panorama :D
[12:10:15] <crutchy> haha. yeah but driving nascar isn't much of a test :p
[12:09:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> start getting into the 0.1N range and i start having issues but 0.08 i could drive nascar.
[12:08:43] <crutchy> lol our cops don't do those stupid sobriety tests. you don't even get out of the car here unless you blow over 0.05 in the initial breatho
[12:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ours is 0.08 and i can totally pass any sobriety test you wanna give at that.
[12:07:45] <crutchy> maybe it varies between countries. dunno
[12:06:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> 0.05 is not three standard drinks. it's half of one.
[12:06:41] <crutchy> smoking outdoors is usually permitted
[12:06:28] <crutchy> .05 is ours. about 3 standard drinks, but there are ads that try to educate people that there's nothing "standard" about a standard drink (cos it varies depending on metabolism etc)
[12:05:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, smoking outdoors is about as dangerous to those around you as sunlight. which is to say pretty much not at all.
[12:05:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, our legal limit for drunk behind the wheel can be hit by a dose of cough syrup just about.
[12:05:11] <crutchy> smoking isn't permitted in a lot of places, which is good i think
[12:04:51] <crutchy> hence no drinking in certain public areas, etc
[12:04:35] <crutchy> dunno if we have overly strict anti-booze laws here. most of them are local laws that are more along the lines of "drink all you want but don't fuck up other people"
[12:03:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> drinking and driving's all fine and bad but screw not with free people getting their booze on legally.
[12:03:09] <crutchy> i don't think cops like doing it much. its prolly one of the most boring parts of their job
[12:02:05] <crutchy> i don't mind the cops doing breathalyzer testing on our roads. when i was a kid two of my parents best friends got killed by a drunk driver. i have no sympathy for them. if you wanna drink and drive, then i hope you get caught and lose your licence
[12:00:11] <chromas> we need to invent a drink'n'drive derby
[11:59:31] <crutchy> alcohol is a social disease. i'm not for government regulating it, but people won't
[11:59:02] <crutchy> i think most aussies are ok with that. quit smoking ads and 'if you drink and drive you're a bloody idiot' ads have been playing a lot for years here. its a nice 'fuck you lying scum!' to the cigarette manufacturers
[11:58:55] <chromas> you don't want too much alcohol when you're baptizing in it
[11:57:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept a few states in the us that still mandate 3.2% beer. chalk that up to baptists though.
[11:56:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> like you got them wacky anti-cigarette n anti-booze laws. worse than any other developed nation pretty much.
[11:56:36] <crutchy> nah its not so bad. iinet (an aussie isp) told the mpaa to fuck off a while back
[11:56:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but you live in oz. yall got crazy anti-people laws down there.
[11:55:44] <crutchy> that's kinda what i figured. that's why i feel a bit safer streaming
[11:55:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's legal in the US for the person watching whatever but not for the person offering the streams
[11:54:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on your locality
[11:54:40] <chromas> ciri: crutchy stores his safe in _NSAKEY's black box
[11:54:31] <crutchy> is streaming content from a website considered pirating?
[11:53:32] <Bender> karma - wire_storage: 1
[11:53:32] <chromas> wire_storage++
[11:53:23] <crutchy> hmm. that could be misinterpreted :p
[11:53:03] <crutchy> as talkative as a black box
[11:52:51] <chromas> he shore was talkative-like
[11:52:33] <crutchy> _NSAKEY isn't here so its safe
[11:52:08] <chromas> everybody, let's exchange tricks for getting free movies. this is not a trap
[11:52:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'how i watch all my tv and it's more timely than streaming sites.
[11:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me, rather download once n watch whenever
[11:50:45] <crutchy> i don't bother with torrents. the odd time i wanna watch a movie i just go to viooz.ac (with ad block edge)
[11:50:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno their policies on bandwidth. could get expensive pulling ~250GB/mo if they charge for bandwidth beyond a limit.
[11:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly. easier to just connect to a pre-made one though than make sure your own is set up securely.
[11:48:28] <chromas> I wonder if anyone uses amazon or ms clouds as vpns for buttpirating
[11:46:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> feh, better quality off vpn+torrents than streaming
[11:45:54] <chromas> time to pirate from the cloud
[11:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> time to buy a vpn for j00
[11:44:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Aussie ISPs Advocate "Three Strikes" Solution to Piracy | TorrentFreak
[11:44:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://torrentfreak.com
[11:44:18] <chromas> needs more leg
[11:42:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think my brain has more lag than that right now
[11:39:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato
[11:39:28] <crutchy> wow. 1.3s lag :/
[11:39:09] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 277
[11:39:09] <crutchy> ++coffee
[11:39:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1093
[11:39:08] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:37:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go
[11:30:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> true nuff, i'll get him added
[11:14:09] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 276
[11:14:08] <crutchy> ++coffee
[11:14:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1092
[11:14:08] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:13:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1091
[11:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[10:45:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Evolution 'Favors Bigger Sea Creatures' - http://sylnt.us - -bathyalpelagic-iii:-disequillibrated
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[10:07:11] <arti> words one hopes never to hear from a date
[09:30:19] <crutchy> oh its already in there :p
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[09:25:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: IRC
[09:25:48] <crutchy> tmb, someone should add TheMightyBot to http://wiki.soylentnews.org
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[09:10:56] <crutchy> though i tend to fire them at both democrats and republicans, and i'm not even an american :p
[09:10:22] <Bender> karma - cheap_partisan_shots: 1
[09:10:22] <crutchy> cheap_partisan_shots++
[09:08:02] <crutchy> i missed a good conversation today
[09:07:47] * arti has filled his cheap partisan shot quota
[09:07:21] <arti> the left has that way with numbers
[09:07:16] <crutchy> lucky i'm an engineer so that i have an excuse for making arithmetic errors :D
[09:06:53] <chromas> fortunately the numbers on the left adjust automatically
[09:06:37] <crutchy> yeah
[09:06:26] <chromas> it was fine 'til you deleted a row
[09:05:52] <arti> you should hold public office.
[09:05:50] <crutchy> column B goes 1, 3, 4, 5...
[09:05:35] <crutchy> i'm plotting to forget how to count
[09:02:07] <arti> you might say you're plotting something
[09:01:49] <chromas> those dots should be red
[09:01:47] <crutchy> we're bleeding lines
[09:01:21] * arti resists
[09:01:11] <crutchy> the #soylent period chart :p
[09:01:03] <crutchy> nah its just a plot of the monthly stats
[09:00:56] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[09:00:55] <crutchy> lol
[09:00:52] <arti> is that how many f*cks you give?
[09:00:34] <crutchy> removing second point gives us a bit more optimistic estimate for this month 21379.217
[09:00:29] <arti> i need an adult
[09:00:23] <arti> it says STD at the bottom.
[09:00:20] <chromas> or everyone's?
[08:59:46] <chromas> is that your chatter for the year?
[08:59:12] <crutchy> hmm. prolly should get rid of the second point. its prolly a bit of an outlier
[08:58:40] <crutchy> http://picpaste.com
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[08:47:04] <chromas> ~trollctl start
[08:47:03] <arti> i should drum up a script to do a few variants, daily, weekly, monthly
[08:46:44] <chromas> it's a shame
[08:44:43] <crutchy> woohoo i've slowed down my trolling of #soylent a bit
[08:44:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple, A123 & Tesla - http://sylnt.us - like-some-speculation-with-your-accusation?
[08:43:36] <Hedonismbot> ^✓ 03#Soylent stats: 16.2.2015!
[08:43:36] <arti> http://antiartificial.com
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[06:42:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Does Dark Matter Cause Mass Extinctions and Geologic Upheavals? - http://sylnt.us - why-are-you-asking-me?
[06:29:22] <Subsentient> crutchy: what?
[06:25:04] <Bender> karma - tea: 408
[06:25:04] <ar> coffee--
[06:23:27] <Bender> karma - weekend: 11
[06:23:27] <crutchy> weekend++
[06:22:53] <crutchy> apparently Subsentient turned to the dark side while i was away :p
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[05:07:15] <ciri> hehehe
[05:07:14] <mrcoolbp> lol
[05:03:57] <SirFinkus> good shit
[05:03:47] * SirFinkus is listening to Devin Townsend — The Death of Music, from the album Ocean Machine: Biomech
[04:52:51] <SirFinkus> every time I see eff, I replace it with EF and it makes it funneir
[04:41:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sim Card Database Hack Gave US and UK Spies Access to Billions of Cellphones - http://sylnt.us - probably-not
[04:21:05] * mrcoolbp tips hat to TheMightyBuzzard
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[03:48:36] <juggs> Low Res Minecraft porn?
[03:47:54] <SpallsHurgenson> it's highly compressed!
[03:44:33] <juggs> Newp, you're delusional. You only have a single 1.44MB 3.5" floppy disk running MS-DOS. Anything beyond that is a fiction created by your sick mind. Seek professional help!
[03:40:59] <SpallsHurgenson> 4TB of downloaded porn says it did!
[03:40:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EFF to Supreme Court: The Fourth Amendment Covers DNA Collection - http://sylnt.us - staying-home
[03:40:24] <juggs> Did it ever exist?
[03:40:11] <SpallsHurgenson> hmm, I seem to have misplaced the internet.
[03:39:41] <juggs> chromas, seems /sajoin is an unrealircd command for forcing a user into a channel. I can't seem to find any combination of admin privs and commands that can do the same thing with charybdis and atheme.
[03:36:04] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5090, owned by Bellator
[03:36:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> !uid
[03:18:48] <MrPlow> ♫ Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow ♫
[03:16:57] <SpallsHurgenson> and it's not even Friday night! :)
[03:12:53] * juggs fires up the pressure washer
[03:08:57] <SpallsHurgenson> argh, I feel like I'm coated in plaster dust
[03:08:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas better
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[02:55:48] <juggs> hmm some ircd have /sajoin <nick> <channel> for that - not sure charybdis does
[02:50:21] <chromas> I wonder if there's a command to force a user into a channel. probably only pj and bewbs could do it
[02:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i love tacos
[02:50:04] <Subsentient> I really love aqu4bot.
[02:49:26] <aqu4> Ok.
[02:49:26] <Subsentient> $chanctl invite BadCoderFinger
[02:49:14] <chromas> Poor BadCoderFinger. $chanctl invite BadCoderFinger
[02:47:52] <chromas> $spamctl start pinging
[02:47:30] <Subsentient> Ping spam, now coming to aqu4bot as $pingall
[02:47:25] * Hedonismbot chomps; digests; becomes stronger
[02:47:22] <Subsentient> I actually was just given an idea.
[02:47:02] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at Hedonismbot
[02:47:02] <Subsentient> $burrito Hedonismbot
[02:46:52] * Hedonismbot hungers for burrito
[02:46:42] * juggs sighs
[02:46:17] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at juggs
[02:46:17] <Subsentient> $burrito juggs
[02:46:06] * juggs eyes irc admin privs, then glares at Subsentient
[02:45:24] <SpallsHurgenson> well that's just not fair :)
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[02:44:35] <aqu4> You are not authorized to use that command, you need to be an admin.
[02:44:35] <chromas> $chanctl alert staff
[02:44:17] * TheMightyBuzzard troutsmacks Subsentient
[02:44:07] <chromas> need $ping or something
[02:44:02] * SpallsHurgenson grins maliciously
[02:43:59] -!- mode/#Soylent [-b *!*@*] by aqu4
[02:43:58] <aqu4> Ok.
[02:43:58] <Subsentient> $chanctl unban *!*@*
[02:43:28] -!- mode/#Soylent [+b *!*@*] by aqu4
[02:43:28] <aqu4> Ok.
[02:43:28] <Subsentient> $chanctl ban *!*@*
[02:43:24] <Subsentient> I prefer my way.
[02:43:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> just to ping everyone with voice or ops in case of emergency or if you're feeling like a jackass
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[02:42:20] <SpallsHurgenson> lol :)
[02:42:17] <Subsentient> That's what I call abuse.
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[02:42:08] <aqu4> Ok.
[02:42:08] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick TheMightyBuzzard botctl SpallsHurgenson juggler exec BadCoderFinger Hedonismbot
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[02:41:48] <Subsentient> .op aqu4
[02:41:45] <SpallsHurgenson> and the ops! :)
[02:41:43] <arti> what are these for
[02:41:38] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, new ways to abuse the bots!
[02:41:29] <botctl> stderr arti juggler Subsentient mechanicjay juggs mrcoolbp Azrael paulej72 Landon TheMightyLaptop TheMightyBuzzard stdhell
[02:41:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;battlestations
[02:41:24] * TheMightyBuzzard demonstrates
[02:41:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> got us a new bot command, juggs
[02:41:08] <arti> maybe everyone can turn on their ovens?
[02:40:30] * SpallsHurgenson pushes buttons on his Weather Dominator machine
[02:40:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that we did this year either but it's not an uncommon thing
[02:39:48] <juggs> True. Rarely top 90
[02:39:46] <SpallsHurgenson> just wait :)
[02:39:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> in the cold, yeah. you lot probably don't see a lot of 110-115F summer days though.
[02:39:07] <SpallsHurgenson> well you know, England always follows the US's lead these days :)
[02:38:42] <juggs> OK seems really rather similar to SE England weather wise
[02:37:48] <SpallsHurgenson> shame, I was rather enjoying our warm 28F weather; brisk but not "hey, have you seen my nose or did it fall off from frostbite" weather :)
[02:37:39] * TheMightyBuzzard loses
[02:37:31] <exec> 03Stratford, OK, USA - currently 41°F, clear, wind SE at 9 mph, humidity 53% - Thursday clear with periodic clouds (37°F-50°F), Friday cloudy (45°F-56°F), Saturday partly cloudy (31°F-55°F), Sunday mostly cloudy (20°F-37°F)
[02:37:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[02:37:25] <exec> 03London, UK - currently 46°F / 8°C, rain showers, wind SW at 10 mph, humidity 90% - Thursday rain (43°F-47°F / 6°C-8°C), Friday showers (34°F-45°F / 1°C-7°C), Saturday partly cloudy (31°F-46°F / -1°C-8°C), Sunday showers (41°F-48°F / 5°C-9°C)
[02:37:23] <juggs> ~weather
[02:37:15] <juggs> I'd describe that as somewhat chilly!
[02:36:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I believe it is officially "cold" again
[02:36:07] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: Woohoo for crazy wind. We should get ours tomorrow.
[02:35:58] <ciri> Converted -1 Fahrenheit => -18.3348 Celsius
[02:35:57] <SpallsHurgenson> .f2c -1
[02:34:33] <SpallsHurgenson> (whoa... wind is picking up out there; I can hear it howling)
[02:32:59] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Red Dwarf: Can't Smeg, Won't Smeg Segment - YouTube
[02:32:57] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, apparently it wasn't involving Henry, but some other cooking show https://www.youtube.com
[02:31:34] <BadCoderFinger> I don't remember that.
[02:30:31] <SpallsHurgenson> didn't they do a cross-over with Red Dwarf at one point? I seem to remember a special where they were "cooking" vindaloo
[02:29:17] <SpallsHurgenson> shame the series jumped the shark in the third series
[02:28:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I saw Chef! first so I always thought of those cooking shows as weak imitators :)
[02:28:55] <BadCoderFinger> Sadly, he's not nearly as funny as Lenny Henry.
[02:28:55] <juggs> too unmotivated to bother searching
[02:28:43] <juggs> or is it Ramsay :/
[02:28:19] <juggs> probably that other celeb chef abuse master Gordon Ramsey
[02:26:58] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:26:48] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently the character was at least partially based on the real chef who advised the actors on how to behave in a real kitchen
[02:20:38] <BadCoderFinger> Nothing like that stream of insults.
[02:19:42] <SpallsHurgenson> I re-watch a few episodes every now and again just to listen to Henry go off on one of his employees.
[02:18:49] <BadCoderFinger> I love that show.
[02:18:13] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, that's a blast from the past.
[02:17:57] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03National Review
[02:17:56] <arti> http://www.nationalreview.com
[02:16:55] * SpallsHurgenson is watching Lenny Henry berate his staff in Chef!
[02:14:39] <BadCoderFinger> Hey guys
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[01:32:04] <Bytram|away> g'night everyone!
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[01:31:38] <Bytram> ciao for now
[01:31:22] <Bytram> it's been a long day and I think I'm gonna call it an early night.
[01:25:23] * arti has flashbacks to /.
[01:25:06] <SpallsHurgenson> anyone else here have really hairy feet?
[01:23:18] <arti> you're a damned hobbit
[01:23:11] <arti> it's been stew time all night
[01:22:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> stew time i think. if the taters are done.
[01:22:42] <arti> :)
[01:22:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[01:22:27] <arti> improper use of racism detected :P
[01:22:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> arti, only in the US on account of racism. in mexico he's popular as hell.
[01:21:58] <arti> i detect a lot of friction
[01:21:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> "He [Speedy Gonzales] knows my sister." "Speedy Gonzales knows everybody's sister."
[01:20:22] <arti> get it taken off the air for insensitivity or something, right? kicker, those south of the border liked it.
[01:19:55] <Bender> karma - wileecoyote: 1
[01:19:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> WileECoyote++
[01:19:53] <arti> Speedy Gonzales, there's a name i haven't heard in a long time...
[01:19:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Great Divide - Wile E. Coyote - YouTube
[01:19:16] <arti> i think those are called samples
[01:19:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me: https://www.youtube.com
[01:19:12] <arti> short films
[01:19:11] <Bytram> ROFL! RIght you are!
[01:18:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> really wasn't much in the way of voicing for Wile E. Coyote until the later years.
[01:17:56] <Bytram> short films, produced during the golden age of American animation.
[01:17:56] <Bytram> Although he began his sixty-plus-year career performing in radio, Blanc is best remembered for his work with Warner Bros. as the voices of Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Tweety Bird, Sylvester the Cat, Yosemite Sam, Foghorn Leghorn, Marvin the Martian, Pep Le Pew, Speedy Gonzales, Wile E. Coyote, the Tasmanian Devil and many of the other characters from the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoon
[01:17:55] <Bytram> yes, he did!
[01:17:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Mel Blanc
[01:17:28] * Bytram checks https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:16:54] * Bytram wonders if he did foghorn leghorn, too.
[01:16:28] <Bytram> or calls up his senator with a question about a current issue -- as porky pig?
[01:15:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> some people is just overflowing with teh funny
[01:14:46] * TheMightyBuzzard grins
[01:13:49] <Bytram> the pranks he must have pulled!
[01:13:43] <Bytram> can you imagine what it could have been like going out to a restaurant with Mel Blanc and he places an order as, say, daffy duck? Or doing tech support and having him call in as yosemite sam?
[01:12:18] <Bytram> nod nod - much obliged
[01:12:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yoinked it from there
[01:11:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to be on youtube
[01:11:46] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Bury Me Sound Clip and Quote - Hark
[01:11:45] * Bytram was having no luck with getting it from: http://www.hark.com
[01:11:26] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Nice!
[01:10:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> already trolled myself Groundhog Day style with I Got You Babe. currently using Sabotage by the Beastie Boys.
[01:10:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i need a new alarm song
[01:08:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net:8000
[01:07:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, have the audio of it saved
[01:05:07] <Bytram> here's the proper quote that I'd mangled: "What for you bury me in the cold, cold ground?"
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[01:00:53] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Devil May Hare
[01:00:52] <Bytram> HA! https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:00:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that and what's opera doc
[01:00:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> truly it were
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[00:58:23] * Bytram wishes he could remember more from that one -- it was a classic!
[00:57:59] <Bytram> a couple days ago customer reminded me of that passage from an episode with Taz and Bugs -- hadn't seen that one in like four decades, but I *immediately* remembered it!
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[00:56:42] <TasmanianDevil> BugsBunny: why you bury me in the hard cold ground?
[00:56:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> stoopid bot
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[00:53:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kick botctl
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[00:53:01] <Bytram> back
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[00:47:53] <arti> should collect it from sweaty humies
[00:46:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Salt - From the BBC show "Chef!" - YouTube
[00:46:58] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[00:45:18] <Bytram> afk / back in a few minutes or so
[00:43:56] <Bytram> that, they may or may not do, but help clean the mess they made? that I'm sure they would not do! (At least the ones I had the pleasure of working with, way back in the day)
[00:43:00] <SpallsHurgenson> ask any chef and I am sure they will inform you of your error :)
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[00:34:04] <Bytram> =)
[00:34:03] <Bytram> well, sure didn't look that when it got to *me* !!
[00:33:37] <SpallsHurgenson> (this paid message brought to you by the Classically Trained Chefs Are Better Than You Association of America)
[00:32:21] <SpallsHurgenson> that's not a mess, that's epicurean art!
[00:31:47] * Bytram had the same feeling about chefs whose pots, pans, etc. he had to clean.
[00:30:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I gotta say, my hired goons seen technically skilled but they could use some practice in not making a mess :)
[00:30:33] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: yuppers! You *do* understand!
[00:30:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I spent an hour vacuuming :)
[00:30:14] <arti> "mighty dusty in here"
[00:30:09] <arti> it's just your excuse for crying
[00:29:30] <Bytram> dust gets *everywhere*
[00:29:18] * Bytram remembers countless hours sanding 'mud' from atop nail heads.
[00:29:00] <arti> City Rock
[00:28:36] <SpallsHurgenson> even better; it's real SheetRock (tm) brand drywall!
[00:28:03] <arti> spalls, is that like a glass ceiling?
[00:27:59] <SpallsHurgenson> Evening, Bytram. It looks like you don't have enough work to do. I nominate you to do crutchy's laundry :)
[00:27:37] * Bytram pictures a bunch of timbers with no blueboard on 'em
[00:27:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I feel like royalty!
[00:27:04] <sedctl> <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: g'day
[00:27:03] <Bytram> s/au/ay/
[00:26:58] * SpallsHurgenson is now a proud owner of an unfinished ceiling!
[00:26:52] <Bytram> SpallsHurgenson: g'dau
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[00:19:39] <Bender> karma - matzo_balls: 1
[00:19:39] <Bytram> matzo_balls++
[00:19:30] <Bytram> I haven't had a chance to check out the fix on prod yet, but it was rather frustrating.
[00:19:08] <paulej72> although some jewish food is pretty good
[00:18:51] <Bytram> I don't recall it being a problem until recently -- may have had a regression somewhere?
[00:18:50] <paulej72> not kosher means so mcuh good food, I am glad I am not jewish
[00:18:14] <paulej72> no problem, I thought we had that fixed already or I would have fixed it sooner
[00:17:59] <Bytram> cheeseburger?
[00:17:38] <paulej72> meat and dairy togeter yum
[00:17:35] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: paulej72: thanks *bunches* for rolling out that fix for 'tid' mangling in SN urls!
[00:17:12] <paulej72> not kosher
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[00:16:34] <chromas> now that /is/ jewish
[00:16:25] <Bender> karma - free_food: 1
[00:16:25] <Bytram> free_food++
[00:16:12] <paulej72> but there is free food all day
[00:16:11] * Bytram only fasted for lent -- prolly not jewish
[00:16:00] <paulej72> sure enough
[00:15:49] <Bytram> paulej72: looks like you have a long day ahead of you tomorrow
[00:15:46] <paulej72> Bytram: that fast, it must have been a jewish holiday
[00:15:31] <chromas> all hands below-deck
[00:15:18] * Bytram wouldn't know what you're talking about
[00:15:09] <arti> yeah i think you unlock that skill at level 14
[00:15:04] <paulej72> it is a must for certain internet activities
[00:14:58] * Bytram had top speed of 35mph on the interstate coming home from work
[00:14:44] <paulej72> you should be able to type with one hand
[00:14:41] <Bytram> nasty snow storm coming through.. windy and heavy snow blowin sideways.
[00:14:22] <paulej72> I just love how bender never fucks that up anymore
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[00:14:10] * Bytram tries to chew and type at the same time...
[00:13:44] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5090, owned by Bellator
[00:13:42] <Bytram> ~uid
[00:13:37] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: heya
[00:13:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin Bytram
[00:13:25] <exec> 03Presque Isle, ME, USA - currently 21°F, cloudy, wind N at 7 mph, humidity 78% - Thursday snow (12°F-22°F), Friday snow showers (-6°F-18°F), Saturday mostly cloudy (10°F-16°F), Sunday snow showers (13°F-30°F)
[00:13:24] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[00:13:23] <Bytram> ~weather presque isle, maine
[00:13:23] <chromas> ~weather ciri
[00:13:22] <arti> it's a bit chilly out
[00:13:16] <exec> 03Costa Mesa, CA 92626, USA - currently 69°F / 21°C, partly cloudy, wind W at 6 mph, humidity 54% - Thursday partly cloudy (55°F-72°F / 13°C-22°C), Friday partly cloudy (56°F-68°F / 13°C-20°C), Saturday partly cloudy (59°F-66°F / 15°C-19°C), Sunday showers (55°F-64°F / 13°C-18°C)
[00:13:14] <arti> ~weather 92626
[00:13:05] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 23°F, snow, wind W at 13 mph, humidity 81% - Thursday scattered snow showers (6°F-31°F), Friday partly cloudy (-2°F-18°F), Saturday snow showers (23°F-26°F), Sunday snow showers (22°F-37°F)
[00:13:04] <Bytram> ~weather portland, maine
[00:13:02] <arti> that's pretty warm compared to mars.
[00:13:02] <exec> 03Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 15°F / -9°C, cloudy, wind NW at 15 mph, humidity 38% - Thursday scattered snow showers (-2°F-22°F / -19°C--6°C), Friday mostly sunny (1°F-18°F / -17°C--8°C), Saturday snow (29°F-34°F / -2°C-1°C), Sunday showers (25°F-44°F / -4°C-7°C)
[00:13:00] <paulej72> ~weather
[00:12:53] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 17°F, cloudy, wind W at 23 mph, humidity 65% - Thursday cloudy (0°F-26°F), Friday sunny (0°F-16°F), Saturday snow showers (28°F-30°F), Sunday rain and snow (26°F-38°F)
[00:12:52] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[00:12:44] <arti> g'day
[00:12:41] <Bytram> g'day, all!
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[00:09:43] <paulej72> we wore kilts
[00:09:31] <paulej72> I was part of Kiltie Band. The no pants band.
[00:09:13] <paulej72> At CMU you can.
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[00:09:04] <arti> yeah dude 800 oops
[00:08:58] <arti> cool, can you go pantsless?
[00:08:57] <paulej72> holy fuck, CMU.
[00:08:29] <paulej72> going to be working form 7am to 9+pm
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[00:07:59] <paulej72> tomorrow is one of or dog and pony shows at wook. It is prospective graduate sutudent visit weekend 1
[00:07:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'We’re Sorry' Says Carnegie-Mellon to 800 CS Grad Students Accepted in Error - http://sylnt.us - blame-a-computer
[00:07:11] <paulej72> now watching some tv
[00:07:02] <paulej72> had food
[00:06:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup yo
[00:06:45] <ciri> hello paulej72
[00:06:45] <paulej72> hi everybody
[00:06:36] <paulej72> keei’
[00:06:33] <paulej72> jjduekk
[00:06:29] <paulej72> kkdiejnaygyal\
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