#Soylent | Logs for 2015-02-18

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[00:16:19] <ar> https://lists.freebsd.org - RNG was defunct in freebsd -current for 4 months
[00:16:19] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03URGENT: RNG broken for last 4 months
[00:21:33] <arti> something broken in current? wowzer.
[00:23:19] <arti> story at 11: broken software in unstable / dev
[00:26:33] <paulej72> I just deployed a bug fix to prod so any 503s were my fault
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[00:57:40] <BadCoderFinger> Hey guys
[01:00:06] <n1> ahoy
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[01:05:35] * SpallsHurgenson runs into the #channel with boundless energy, "Wooohooo, pantsless Tuesday! Alright, yeah! Let's do this thing!"
[01:06:48] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, wait... wrong channel
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[01:08:04] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: Hey Spalls!
[01:08:27] <SpallsHurgenson> good evening, distingished gentlemen and ladies; what engrossing and edifying topic shall we discuss in length this evening?
[01:08:47] <BadCoderFinger> I'm sure something horrible is imminent.
[01:09:35] <arti> Let's discuss the merits of GPL vs BSD licenses.
[01:09:45] <SpallsHurgenson> hopefully nothing to prurient, sophomoric and crude; I am far too sophisticated to debase myself with discourse of that nature
[01:09:48] <arti> Also, $os sucks.
[01:11:16] <SpallsHurgenson> perhaps we can also engage ourselves with deliberation as to finally determine which religion is the correct one. :)
[01:12:38] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: Feel free to offer a suggestion. I'm of the mind that the time to believe something is when it is supported by evidence.
[01:13:15] <SpallsHurgenson> I myself am leaning in favor of the Church of Ed Wood for no particular reason other than nobody else is likely to even consider it
[01:14:18] <BadCoderFinger> It would be a rather exclusive church.
[01:14:28] <chromas> (knock knock knock) Hello sir. Do you have Wood in your heart?
[01:14:46] <BadCoderFinger> That'll root out the Twilight fans!
[01:14:49] <chromas> Do you know Wood? Would you like to have Wood in you?
[01:15:54] <SpallsHurgenson> sounds like a bad pickup line
[01:17:38] <SpallsHurgenson> http://videosift.com argh
[01:17:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Driver Beaten And Tazed As St Louis Police Shut Off Dashcam
[01:30:53] <Subsentient> My first caption image hehe, anyone who knows Babylon 5 should get this. http://universe2.us
[01:31:32] <SpallsHurgenson> heh
[01:32:43] <SpallsHurgenson> Understanding is a three-edged sword.
[01:33:07] <SpallsHurgenson> You seek meaning? Then listen to the music, not the song.
[01:33:49] <SpallsHurgenson> The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
[01:34:20] <Subsentient> SpallsHurgenson: Well put.
[01:34:22] <Subsentient> hehehe
[01:34:24] <Subsentient> I love Kosh
[01:35:33] <SpallsHurgenson> www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAuJ35wDkgM
[01:36:42] <SpallsHurgenson> that's because you have been genetically programmed to :)
[01:37:06] <Subsentient> SpallsHurgenson: Ahh, I see you are a real Babylon fan.
[01:37:22] * Subsentient shakes SpallsHurgenson 's hand
[01:38:09] <SpallsHurgenson> I have the DVDs, the comic books, the novels, the RPG and a permanent bookmark to http://www.midwinter.com :)
[01:38:10] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
[01:38:42] <SpallsHurgenson> although to be fair, I do not have any Crusade stuff
[01:38:55] <Subsentient> Same.
[01:39:15] * SpallsHurgenson hangs his head in shame and prepares to give up his nerd card, if such a sacrifice is required atonment for this failing
[01:39:37] <Subsentient> SpallsHurgenson: Nope, you seem adequate.
[01:40:00] * SpallsHurgenson snorts happily
[01:40:06] <n1> i had mine revoked as soon as it was issued, not a fan of sci-fi
[01:40:25] <SpallsHurgenson> we cannot be friends, n1
[01:40:47] <n1> honesty doesnt count for anything? :(
[01:41:23] <SpallsHurgenson> not more than sci-fi, no :)
[01:41:53] <SpallsHurgenson> next you'll be telling me you don't have any funky polyhedral dice
[01:42:19] <n1> i dont think ive ever had dice, funky or otherwise.
[01:43:16] <Subsentient> n1: http://www.youtube.com
[01:43:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03We Want the Funk - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[01:43:24] <SpallsHurgenson> good god, man. But at least you can quote Monty Python, right?
[01:45:08] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: To be fair, you only need 6-siders for Babylon5.
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[01:45:49] <SpallsHurgenson> nonetheless, everyone should always have a spare d20 in their pockets... just in case :)
[01:45:53] <nick> ahem, before i got disconnected for being non-nerd
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[01:46:14] <SpallsHurgenson> the internet is trying to tell you something :)
[01:46:19] <n1> i can quote monty python though
[01:46:41] <n1> but do have the cultural advantage of living most of my life in the UK
[01:46:57] <SpallsHurgenson> even the series 4 stuff that's terrible? :)
[01:47:27] <n1> not all of the tv stuff
[01:47:31] <n1> movies though
[01:47:39] <n1> and the 'greatest hits' of the tv series most likely
[01:47:56] <SpallsHurgenson> there'd better be at least one Holy Grail quote in there...
[01:49:04] <n1> holy grail, life of brian and the best of the flying circus i know quite well
[01:49:44] <n1> which isn't bad since all the classic monty python came out before i was born
[01:49:45] * SpallsHurgenson tests n1: if your father smelt of elderberries, what was your mother?
[01:50:19] <n1> hamster
[01:50:39] <n1> on a side note: hamsters are awesome
[01:51:08] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... alright. The nerd community may deign to speak to you, should they so choose.
[01:51:51] <n1> i only got the card for the discount on snacks really anyways.
[01:52:26] <SpallsHurgenson> peeps, pringles and pizza?
[01:52:53] <n1> i didnt know pringles was included
[01:53:33] <SpallsHurgenson> they were added to the official diet after the Nerd Convocation of 1997
[01:53:58] <n1> thats good to know, if i get my card back. pringles are crazy expensive for regular mortals these days you know
[01:54:40] <SpallsHurgenson> not so much because nerds like the crisps but we wanted the cans for wifi :)
[01:55:48] <n1> conflicted, prefer cables especially on networks...
[01:56:35] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.csicop.org
[01:56:36] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Video Game Violence and Pseudoscience: Bad Science, Fear, and Politics - CSI
[01:57:35] <BadCoderFinger> I'm with n1, cables are best. Wifi when I have to, but I prefer gigabit when I'm backing up 490GB of /home
[01:58:00] <SpallsHurgenson> (not a related URL to the nerdly discussion, just my semi-regular "interesting link that someone less lazy than me might want to submit to soylent" contribution :)
[01:58:44] <SpallsHurgenson> I realized the other day that all my PCs support gigabit... I need to update my infrastructure to take advantage of that
[01:59:10] <n1> hmmm
[01:59:16] <SpallsHurgenson> of course, most of the data I'd be pulling is stored on USB 2.0 external drives so I wouldn't see much advantage... but it's the principle of the thing! :)
[02:01:12] <n1> i assumed the router i got recently was gigabit
[02:01:14] <n1> apparently not
[02:01:34] <chromas> Gigafast is just a brand name :(
[02:01:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd need new routers and switches... and probably cable in some cases :(
[02:01:58] <n1> as opposed to?
[02:02:30] <chromas> They make switches and stuff, but aren't necessarily gigabit speed
[02:02:31] <n1> SpallsHurgenson, if you havnt already i would suggest looking at tp-link for good value switches and routers
[02:02:37] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: 5E is pretty cheap these days, unless you're buying from BestBuy.
[02:03:10] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: you need directional diamond $5k cables
[02:03:14] <n1> i havnt seen anything but 5e around for forever
[02:03:16] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:03:20] <SpallsHurgenson> I buy from the "Hey, are we throwing this stuff out?" bin at work :)
[02:03:28] <n1> im sure monster will hook you up with a set of good cables though
[02:03:41] <n1> ah, i remember those days fondly
[02:04:11] <SpallsHurgenson> never give those days up! :)
[02:04:12] <n1> got like 3km of cat5e that way
[02:04:29] <SpallsHurgenson> sure I could AFFORD to buy stuff... but free garbage!
[02:04:39] <n1> i wish it was that simple, being self-employed it's quite expensive
[02:04:42] <juggs> ~weather
[02:04:43] <exec> 03London, UK - currently 38°F / 3°C, clear, wind SW at 5 mph, humidity 78% - Tuesday clear with periodic clouds (33°F-48°F / 1°C-9°C), Wednesday sunny (39°F-52°F / 4°C-11°C), Thursday rain (40°F-49°F / 4°C-9°C), Friday rain (35°F-48°F / 2°C-9°C)
[02:04:47] <n1> because either way i'm paying for it somewhere
[02:04:48] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, no bin for you :)
[02:05:01] <n1> if it goes in the bin, it's because its shit
[02:05:14] <n1> if it's half decent but useless to me, it gets donated to someone else
[02:05:24] <SpallsHurgenson> although there is always the "oh <relative>, great to hear you upgraded; say, what are you doing with <old device>?" :)
[02:05:49] <n1> with the relatives, i'm in the situation of trying to get them to throw stuff away also
[02:06:17] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm sorry, I am not familiar with the concept of "throw stuff away"
[02:06:35] <n1> i have wasted so much of my time trying to get printers from 1992 to work on the latest OS X
[02:06:54] <SpallsHurgenson> mmm, HP Laserjet 5 :)
[02:07:01] <n1> because the printer was a "good deal" 5 years ago when they ripped it out of an office for being old and broken
[02:07:07] <SpallsHurgenson> the reward is well worth the effort.
[02:07:28] <SpallsHurgenson> back when HP made hardware that could take a bullet :)
[02:07:50] <juggs> I still have an ancient windows only scanner knocking around - have to fire up a win2K VM to get it to work. Beats buying a new one for the little scanning I do
[02:07:52] <n1> or wanting to run new software on windows and being told they have a 'new' machine
[02:08:04] <n1> which has a 1ghz celeron and xp
[02:08:17] <n1> and the software needs 4gb ram
[02:09:19] <n1> juggs, thats fair enough
[02:09:33] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, 4GB? We went to the moon with less than 50K!
[02:09:45] <n1> the printer situation involves a family member who prints every day for work
[02:10:06] <n1> but gets supplied with 'cheap' old laserjets
[02:10:14] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: To be fair, we didn't have windows back then :)
[02:10:14] <n1> usually thrown out by a previous owner for good reason
[02:10:35] <SpallsHurgenson> good reason = new thing is shiny!
[02:10:42] <SpallsHurgenson> (nine times out of ten)
[02:10:57] <n1> these are ex-corporate ones
[02:11:05] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.businesswire.com sort of a slashvertisment but I like logitech hardware :)
[02:11:06] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Logitech Wins 10 Prestigious Product Design Awards | Business Wire
[02:11:11] <n1> have had 10 years of hard use
[02:11:18] <n1> and the ink is expensive or impossible to find
[02:11:28] <n1> and always need tweaking, conviniently by the person who sells them cheap
[02:12:30] <SpallsHurgenson> (although I just had to buy a new m705 because the left-mouse-button was losing its click :/
[02:13:01] <n1> i got a new keyboard recently
[02:13:20] <n1> crazy shiny and shit
[02:13:20] <BadCoderFinger> n1: What kind?
[02:13:24] <n1> microsoft 200 wired
[02:13:34] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm lucky in that I've always been satisfied with cheapo $5 keytronics :)
[02:13:55] <n1> because the hp one from 1996 wasn't as good as the one i had from 92
[02:14:07] <SpallsHurgenson> the only thing I really care about my keyboard is that it doesn't have any sort of wrist rest.
[02:14:07] <n1> so i thought i'd try a new 'real' keyboard
[02:14:10] <BadCoderFinger> I have a Kinesis Advantage. Trying to stave off carpal tunnel.
[02:14:23] <n1> nice
[02:14:49] <BadCoderFinger> I reprogrammed it to Colemak and replaced the keys with blanks.
[02:15:02] <n1> just because?
[02:15:08] <SpallsHurgenson> I just want a board and keys with as little extra plastic as possible. sort of like this: http://199.66.224.49
[02:15:36] <SpallsHurgenson> and it has to be black. you can have a keyboard in any color you want, so long as its black :)
[02:15:42] <BadCoderFinger> Try a Happy Hacker keyboard!
[02:16:24] <juggs> It appears to have no numpad
[02:16:29] <SpallsHurgenson> needs a numpad :)
[02:16:47] <n1> agree
[02:16:52] <SpallsHurgenson> and arrow keys. how am I supposed to make the cursor move up and down without arrow keys?
[02:17:31] <n1> if that had all the keys, i would be down with it
[02:17:31] <juggs> http://www.pfusystems.com has cursor keys bottom right
[02:17:51] <n1> seems stupid without numpad and fkeys
[02:17:59] <SpallsHurgenson> nah, gimme a full-sized board. no function keys either
[02:18:35] <SpallsHurgenson> or prntscr/scrllck/pause-brk
[02:18:59] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, it turns out my keyboard needs to have a bit more than just no wrist rest :)
[02:19:43] <n1> get yourself a microsoft 200 wired keyboard
[02:19:49] <n1> only $13 msrp!
[02:20:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't like Microsoft hardware. I know lots of people rave about their mice and keyboards, but they've never worked well for me
[02:20:26] <n1> i havn't had any good ones to compare to really
[02:20:28] <SpallsHurgenson> (well, except for their sidewinder joysticks... those were awesome :)
[02:20:29] <BadCoderFinger> The Natural 4000 wasn't bad.
[02:20:55] <n1> i went from a 1992 packard bell keyboard to a 1996 hp one.
[02:21:06] <n1> that came bundled with low end consumer pcs of the day
[02:21:51] <n1> BadCoderFinger, i wouldnt mind trying that actually
[02:22:00] <juggs> That 200 looks like it would have soft feel key action.
[02:22:27] <SpallsHurgenson> sounds... pornographic :)
[02:22:36] <n1> i dont think it does
[02:22:51] <n1> it sounds and feels like a real keyboard to me
[02:23:02] <BadCoderFinger> New email: "Do you need key viagra? Click here!"
[02:23:04] <paulej72> I use a Natural 4000. Broke two of them
[02:23:08] <juggs> only 7 on amazon :D
[02:23:13] <paulej72> now have a spare
[02:23:21] <n1> juggs, i thought i bought it from amazon
[02:23:38] <n1> probably why i decided to try it out
[02:23:46] <n1> never really like the hp one i had before
[02:24:38] <n1> the 600 keyboard seems to be the one that actually has quiet touch keys
[02:24:39] <juggs> ooh - I never got on with that Natural Ergo layouts paulej72 - perhaps I should give them another try
[02:24:48] <n1> for $3 extra
[02:25:14] <n1> juggs, the 4000 looks like a good place to start
[02:25:26] <n1> and paulej72, broke but still buying them?
[02:25:47] * SpallsHurgenson waits impatiently for his phone number to transfer to his new phone...
[02:25:59] <paulej72> coffee in the first one, and the second may have been too many lunch crumbs
[02:26:18] <BadCoderFinger> Tell us what it is, and we'll call you! Also, we may sign you up to some phone lists.
[02:26:32] <n1> yeah, ive had that happen
[02:26:52] <paulej72> I figured the thrid would last forever if I have spare on hand
[02:27:01] <n1> smart planning
[02:29:37] <BadCoderFinger> If you're a coder, your primary instrument is the keyboard. You _should_ be picky about it.
[02:30:02] <n1> too right
[02:30:32] <n1> the right tool for the job is different for each person
[02:30:42] <BadCoderFinger> Definitely.
[02:30:54] <BadCoderFinger> But when you find one you love, buy ten of them, heh!
[02:31:01] <paulej72> I got my Natural after having some wrist pain. Luckily it went away with a new keyboarad and wearing wrist splints for a few days
[02:31:07] <BadCoderFinger> Not really an option for the Kinesis.
[02:31:25] <paulej72> Took a bit of time to git use to the keyboard.
[02:31:37] * SpallsHurgenson programs with MS Kinect :)
[02:31:49] <paulej72> You only need one model m per machine
[02:31:50] <BadCoderFinger> paulej72: Yeah, same with the Kinesis. Took a good bit to get used to. But I sure love it now.
[02:32:11] <n1> hard to adapt if you go back to a 'normal' keyboard?
[02:32:34] <BadCoderFinger> Not really, but it does take a minute or two for the old muscle memory to kick in.
[02:32:37] <SpallsHurgenson> the fact that I HATE using model M keyboards is what lost me my geek card
[02:32:37] <paulej72> no not really, as I use normal keyboars on my lappys
[02:32:43] <n1> yeah, i figured
[02:33:06] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: I don't like the Model M either. Too dang noisy.
[02:33:25] <BadCoderFinger> I put o-rings on my Kinesis keys, Quieted it down a decent bit.
[02:33:36] <BadCoderFinger> But doesn't feel mushy like most keyboards.
[02:34:19] <juggs> I like them to use clacky boards from a feel perspective, but the noise is a real pain in the ear.
[02:35:52] <BadCoderFinger> juggs: Any keyboard with Cherry MX Brown switches, install the o-rings.
[02:37:59] <BadCoderFinger> Usually sold as "Gaming keyboards" and around $80, but you can catch them for $40 if you look
[02:38:43] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.racked.com
[02:38:44] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03What the Tech World Doesn't Understand About Fashion - Racked
[02:38:56] <chromas> racks++
[02:38:56] <Bender> karma - racks: 2
[02:39:18] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:40:11] <BadCoderFinger> juggs: I should have converted to pounds!
[02:41:23] <BadCoderFinger> Somewhere in the world, there's a country that is too snooty for British Pounds. Their currecy is called "kilos."
[02:41:29] <juggs> BadCoderFinger, don't worry, I convert USD to GBP in my head on the fly - so much I read is denoted in USD it's become 2nd nature
[02:42:09] <BadCoderFinger> juggs: Heh, I'm trying to do the same thing with F->C
[02:42:16] <BadCoderFinger> Degrees, that is.
[02:42:23] <paulej72> for a first pass i usually use $2/pound
[02:42:34] <juggs> that's what ciri is for :D
[02:42:39] <juggs> .c2f 0
[02:42:39] <ciri> Converted 0 Celsius => 32.0 Fahrenheit
[02:43:06] <juggs> paulej72, your a little out there :D My base is usually 1.6
[02:43:09] <paulej72> we should add a $ to pounds and euro converter to ciri
[02:43:20] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, but I want my brain to do it. I'd wait for augmentation, but I'd be much too afraid to run windows in my brain.
[02:43:22] <paulej72> 1.6 is too hard to work with
[02:43:39] <SpallsHurgenson> .c2f -40
[02:43:39] <ciri> Converted -40 Celsius => -40.0 Fahrenheit
[02:43:41] <paulej72> 2 is much easer to do a first pass
[02:43:41] <ciri> 3
[02:43:42] <juggs> use 1.5 then fudge it
[02:44:31] <paulej72> if we have the British economy crash some we can get to that 1.5
[02:45:42] <juggs> Uh... it's ~1.53 now I believe
[02:46:29] <juggs> At least xe.com would have me believe
[02:53:47] <paulej72> well then we can use 1.5 and be all happy.
[02:56:20] <BadCoderFinger> New rule for global economists: Round to the nearest easy numbers. Should work about as well as the current voodoo.
[02:58:05] <juggs> it's all a bit messed up anyway - US prices are always quoted without sales tax, whereas generally UK prices are quoted inclusive of 20% VAT. For anything tech device related though it's more 1:1, something that sells for say $200 in the US will typically sell for 200 in the UK.
[02:58:37] <n1> and that hasnt changed at all
[02:58:47] <n1> you'd think they would have closed that down
[02:59:23] <BadCoderFinger> The reason prices don't include tax in the US: Marketing Uber Alles.
[02:59:28] <juggs> why? The price charged is the price the market will bear.
[02:59:29] <n1> although sometimes its actually cheaper to buy it on ebay from the us
[02:59:33] <n1> and pay the sales tax on it
[02:59:38] <n1> import tax
[02:59:39] <n1> even
[02:59:47] <juggs> BadCoderFinger, I thought it was due to differing taxes by state / locality
[02:59:51] <paulej72> 6000 differnt tax rates
[02:59:52] <BadCoderFinger> $9.99 is a psychological marker. "It's under $10!"
[03:00:16] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, even cities can vary the amount of sales tax they charge.
[03:00:31] <paulej72> and I may be a bit off on that number but I think that is somthing that I rember reading
[03:00:39] <BadCoderFinger> But in this age of computers, that's a few microseconds of lookup.
[03:01:10] <paulej72> but a nationwide ad the number has to be one value
[03:01:45] <paulej72> we are just getting systems that can do a nation wide tax lookup.
[03:02:30] <SpallsHurgenson> <grumble mutter snarl snort> I hate dealing with cell phone companies
[03:03:02] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: They're all pure evil.
[03:03:10] <SpallsHurgenson> they managed to transfer the
[03:03:19] <SpallsHurgenson> number to the new phone... but not the attached account
[03:03:28] <mythterj> Nation wide tax is only part of the problem in the US, there are varing exemptions of elderly, type of goods sold, etc.
[03:03:42] <SpallsHurgenson> this sort of incompetence takes skill :)
[03:03:43] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: Sounds like you have a new identity!
[03:03:58] <paulej72> everyone does. I had an issue with a verizon phone that gave me bad echo. they basically said there was nothing wrong with it. I traded it in for a differnet model from a different manufacture and no more issues
[03:04:13] <SpallsHurgenson> and they can't fix it until regular business hours, because evil doesn't work overtime :)
[03:04:46] <BadCoderFinger> No, only the contractors work overtime.
[03:04:46] <SpallsHurgenson> so now I have TWO phones that don't work, yay! :)
[03:04:57] <n1> what area of the US has the most simple tax rules?
[03:05:06] <n1> im guessing even that is a complicated question beyond reason
[03:05:15] <SpallsHurgenson> there are no simple tax rules in the US
[03:05:30] <n1> i dont think there are anywhere, really. thats kind of the point of them, i assume.
[03:05:32] <SpallsHurgenson> and even if there were simple tax rules, they would be complicated :)
[03:05:45] <BadCoderFinger> n1: Even if I knew, I believe that place would still be a twisted morass of poop. Tax laws benefit lawyers and H&R Block.
[03:05:50] <paulej72> deleware, no sales tax
[03:05:58] <mythterj> Some states have no income tax, (+1) and some locations have no sales tax (+2).
[03:06:17] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but they make up for it in other ways :)
[03:06:23] <BadCoderFinger> Usually no income tax means a high sales tax rate.
[03:06:39] <n1> welcoming those tourists
[03:07:30] <mythterj> Friends in Alask pay no sales tax, or income tax, and he gets a couple thousand from the state every year - his share of the oil revenue.
[03:07:30] <BadCoderFinger> Tennessee has no state income tax, and a high sales tax.
[03:08:13] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, the nation basically subsidizes you to live in Alaska. But bugger that, Denver is cold enough.
[03:09:20] <mythterj> The oil company subsidizes them.
[03:09:45] <paulej72> who pays the oil company
[03:09:51] <mythterj> He works for State Dept of Revenue, and they are singing the blues with the falling price of oil....
[03:09:57] <BadCoderFinger> We all pay the oil company!
[03:10:04] <mythterj> You do, at the pump.
[03:10:05] <paulej72> yuppers
[03:10:32] <paulej72> so it is the nation that pays and alaska get to ride free
[03:10:33] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I carry a siphon hose :)
[03:10:53] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: Ha!
[03:11:46] <BadCoderFinger> According to your weather preference, you live in Thailand. Good luck siphoning that gas.
[03:12:39] <SpallsHurgenson> it's a really LONG hose :)
[03:13:19] <BadCoderFinger> Transpacific?
[03:13:34] <BadCoderFinger> !grab SpallsHurgenson
[03:13:39] <BadCoderFinger> Dangit!
[03:13:58] <BadCoderFinger> I keep forgetting the grab syntax. You're safe for now...
[03:15:22] <chromas> !grab SpallsHurgenson
[03:15:22] <Bender> Added quote 387
[03:15:43] <chromas> !grab BadCoderFinger
[03:15:43] <Bender> Added quote 388
[03:16:31] <BadCoderFinger> It must just hate me.
[03:16:44] <SpallsHurgenson> <whew>
[03:16:48] <chromas> You need to be 'special'. You're not wearing your helmet
[03:17:01] <SpallsHurgenson> I was waiting for someone to grab me. that comment was worth saving for posterity :)
[03:17:07] <chromas> !grab SpallsHurgenson
[03:17:08] <Bender> Added quote 389
[03:17:11] <BadCoderFinger> Gah! I'm missing my tinfoil helmet!
[03:18:38] <chromas> !grab BadCoderFinger
[03:18:38] <Bender> Added quote 390
[03:18:46] <chromas> there. all is right with the world
[03:19:09] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[03:19:29] <chromas> !quote grab
[03:19:29] <Bender> Quote 141 - <chromas> !grab chromas
[03:19:33] <Bender> Also in quotes: 163, 164, 165, 167, 195, 196, 228, 229, 236, 260, 280, 285, 286, 287, 292, 301, 302, 314, 315, 326, 335, 343, 346, 348, 349, 358, 368, 384, 388, 389
[03:19:43] <chromas> ooh, first quote!
[03:21:10] <chromas> !quote the
[03:21:10] <Bender> Quote 2 - <hax0rz> highlights, gold, they shine
[03:21:14] <Bender> Also in quotes: 7, 8, 10, 17, 19, 22, 23, 26, 29, 30, 34, 43, 44, 47, 50, 51, 60, 61, 67, 77, 78, 79, 80, 84, 89, 90, 92, 94, 95, 97, 98, 100, 102, 107, 110, 113, 117, 118, 123, 124, 127, 128, 132, 135, 136, 137, 138, 140, 149, 153, 154, 156, 157, 168, 175, 177, 178, 179, 182, 186, 187, 194, 198, 199, 200, 201, 207, 212, 216, 217, 219, 220, 221, 225, 226, 227, 230, 232, 233, - 1 more
[03:28:25] <SpallsHurgenson> http://gizmodo.com (I think this is old news but it's a good writeup)
[03:28:26] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Computer Simulation That Almost Started World War III
[03:29:46] <chromas> oh yeah, with matthew broderick
[03:30:02] <chromas> joshua
[03:30:10] <chromas> (no password field)
[03:31:10] * chromas presses Lockout Changes then wonders why the computer won't accept new orders
[03:31:45] <BadCoderFinger> I remember the 414s.
[03:32:59] <BadCoderFinger> Back in the days when wardialing really meant dialing.
[03:33:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OpenStreetMap Now Providing Directions - http://sylnt.us - getting-there-from-here
[03:38:02] <BadCoderFinger> Well guys, time for BlackAdder. Catch you tomorrow!
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[03:38:13] <juggs> He has a plan!
[03:38:57] <SpallsHurgenson> a cunning plan?
[03:40:51] <juggs> indeed!
[03:41:19] <SpallsHurgenson> he also has a turnip shaped like a thingee
[03:41:28] <SpallsHurgenson> but perhaps I've said too much
[03:45:30] <juggs> More than likely. Beware of signs that your atari consoles have been meddled with! That's how they get you!
[03:49:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 280
[03:49:25] <Bender> Quote 280 - <Konomi> nograb ~
[03:49:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 275
[03:49:30] <Bender> Quote 275 - <crutchy> paulej72 is the butt
[03:49:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that was the one
[03:49:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> and this
[03:49:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 380
[03:49:49] <Bender> Quote 380 - <SpallsHurgenson> just because I don't wear pants doesn't mean I'm naked
[03:50:08] <chromas> !quote butt
[03:50:08] <Bender> Quote 221 - <crutchy> i thought it was a form of greeting to sniff the other person's butt
[03:50:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I would never say anything so ridiculous!
[03:50:12] <Bender> Also in quotes: 226, 275
[03:51:00] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard++
[03:51:00] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 145
[03:51:07] <juggs> paulej72++
[03:51:07] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 104
[03:51:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> what i do?
[03:51:12] <juggs> and for good measure
[03:51:17] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson++
[03:51:17] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 12
[03:51:19] <juggs> and
[03:51:26] <juggs> n1++
[03:51:26] <Bender> karma - n1: 8
[03:51:53] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, fixed shat on your down time :D
[03:52:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, had some spare butt sitting time. no big when i actually have some of that
[03:52:18] <juggs> Worth an irc point :D
[03:53:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs++ #they're bouncy, pouncy, bouncy, pouncy, fun fun fun fun fun
[03:53:30] <Bender> karma - juggs: 55
[03:55:02] <juggs> oy vey! I really should choose another nick. /nick MostBoringestBastard
[03:58:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> too late now, you're forever mr funbags
[03:59:57] <juggs> !quote grab
[03:59:57] <Bender> Quote 141 - <chromas> !grab chromas
[04:00:01] <Bender> Also in quotes: 163, 164, 165, 167, 195, 196, 228, 229, 236, 260, 280, 285, 286, 287, 292, 301, 302, 314, 315, 326, 335, 343, 346, 348, 349, 358, 368, 384, 388, 389
[04:00:06] <juggs> bech
[04:00:32] <chromas> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[04:00:32] <Bender> Added quote 391
[04:01:22] <juggs> ty chromas for assisting the !$~^ challenged in the room :D
[04:01:41] <chromas> Need a bot-bot
[04:02:47] <juggs> Yep, we need a new standard for bots... there's probably an xkcd for that somewhere
[04:03:08] <chromas> a bot that tells you which bot you want
[04:03:28] <SpallsHurgenson> http://xkcd.com
[04:03:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03xkcd: Standards
[04:03:33] <SpallsHurgenson> (inevitable)
[04:04:42] <juggs> a triage bot that knows all bot commands and seamlessly replaces a ~ for an ! or a $ for a ^ if someone types in the wrong bang
[04:05:17] <juggs> We shall call him the Keymaster or the Gatekeeper
[04:05:54] <chromas> we could cross the streams
[04:06:05] <chromas> make all bots use the same prefix :D
[04:06:28] <chromas> =set .config/prefix !
[04:06:28] <Hedonismbot> k
[04:06:38] <SpallsHurgenson> that idea is too intelligent to work
[04:06:46] <chromas> !say :D
[04:06:46] <Hedonismbot> :D
[04:06:55] <chromas> !set .config/prefix =
[04:06:55] <Bender> set <configname> <variable> <value>
[04:06:55] <Hedonismbot> k
[04:07:01] <SpallsHurgenson> no, we need some sort of ultra complicated klooge
[04:07:05] <juggs> good idea, as long as we have a centralised register for commands and none shall conflict on pain of bannage.
[04:07:30] <chromas> a bot dispatcher bot
[04:08:03] <juggs> I like the prefix "Hi Bot" - works for Samsung TVs apparently, what could possibly go wrong?
[04:08:33] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, nothing could go wrong following the samsung model!
[04:10:30] <juggs> Other than your speech getting shipped unencrypted over the tinterwebs. Think elreg had that today - uses port 443 to communicate, but it's not encrypted at all.
[04:10:48] <juggs> anyways, must sleep. toodles!
[04:14:21] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.newyorker.com long 'n' snooty but interesting
[04:14:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Jonathan Ive and the Future of Apple - The New Yorker
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[04:54:23] <crutchy_> coffee++
[04:54:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1083
[04:54:35] <JamesNZ> ~gday crutchy_
[04:54:36] * exec dexterously pours a used franger of red cordial for crutchy_
[04:54:54] <crutchy_> yummo
[04:55:57] * SpallsHurgenson further sacrifices his geek cred by noting that he far prefers Apples iOS over Android...
[04:56:55] <crutchy_> does android have any more geek cred than ios?
[04:57:13] <chromas> it runs linux and is hackable
[04:57:17] <SpallsHurgenson> see?
[04:57:18] <chromas> on the other hadm it runs java
[04:57:29] <chromas> s/(d)(m)/n\1
[04:57:29] * sedctl offers chremos a /
[04:57:31] <chromas> s/(d)(m)/n\1/
[04:57:31] <sedctl> <chrimos> on the other hand it runs java
[04:57:41] <chromas> blackberry
[04:58:12] <crutchy_> mine is stock and locked
[04:58:28] <crutchy_> does that mean I have no geek cred?
[04:58:33] <SpallsHurgenson> seeing as how the NSA hacked hdd firmwares, I expect that in a month or three we'll learn that blackberry has been as thoroughly hosed
[04:59:08] <chromas> yeah but their software's nifty
[04:59:12] <chromas> qnx-based os
[04:59:58] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I stick with my motorola DynaTAC 8000x :)
[05:00:23] <chromas> too modern
[05:00:47] * SpallsHurgenson hands chromas two soup cans and a length of twine
[05:01:13] <crutchy_> only phone that has geek cred is a rotary phone that has analog to enigma code conversion
[05:02:00] <SpallsHurgenson> enigma? you don't get to work at the NSA until you can crack that in your head :)
[05:03:11] <crutchy_> with a shoe for a handset
[05:04:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Crypto Trick that Makes Software Nearly Impossible to Reverse-Engineer - http://sylnt.us - cracker-jack-anti-crack-hack
[05:08:48] <SpallsHurgenson> cracked in 3...2...1...
[05:14:23] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arstechnica.com
[05:14:23] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03US carriers still stink at unlocking phones, analysis finds | Ars Technica ( http://arstechnica.com )
[05:16:37] <SpallsHurgenson> not like they had a deadline they promised to meet or anything
[05:22:29] <Landon> this is obviously much harder than the digital switchover
[05:22:38] <Landon> I mean.. the digital TV switchover
[05:22:38] <Landon> ...
[05:22:55] <Landon> since cell carriers saw the benefit of digital on their networks pretty fast :) $$$
[05:32:21] <SpallsHurgenson> you seem to be implying something but I - innocent that I am - can not decipher your meaning :)
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[06:29:43] <crutchy> coffee++
[06:29:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1084
[06:29:44] <crutchy> ++coffee
[06:29:44] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 273
[06:30:23] <ar> coffee--
[06:30:23] <Bender> karma - tea: 407
[07:06:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AT&T Charges $29 More for Gigabit Fiber that Doesn’t Watch Your Web Browsing - http://sylnt.us - what-price-privacy?
[07:07:41] <ar> https://plus.google.com https://plus.google.com - SystemDysfunctional
[07:07:42] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Tom Limoncelli - Google+
[07:07:42] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Tom Limoncelli - Google+
[07:12:22] <chromas> they should start pushing epoch instead of bsd :)
[08:04:24] <crutchy> someone should port systemd to unix :D
[08:08:42] <ar> someone should port systemd to /dev/null
[08:09:41] <crutchy> i don't get why uselessd never took off. all the systemd haters should be swooning over it
[08:10:52] <crutchy> it should be one of the most active projects on bitbucket, with everyone pulling up their shirtsleeves to help out
[08:11:06] <crutchy> but nothing has happened to it for months
[08:11:50] <chromas> from the don't-make-me-do-actual-work-and-help-out dept
[08:12:11] <crutchy> ha. yeah i was being kinda rhetorical
[08:12:14] <arti> maybe they don't like the license.
[08:13:16] <crutchy> what's the uselessd license?
[08:15:03] <chromas> lgpl 2.1
[08:15:13] <crutchy> ooh. uselessd moved to a new owner!
[08:15:14] <crutchy> https://bitbucket.org
[08:15:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Tarnyko / uselessd — Bitbucket
[08:16:12] <crutchy> i don't think its the license that's the problem
[08:18:30] <crutchy> its all the uselessd dev's fault cos he didn't make an entire distro
[08:18:36] <crutchy> shame on him!
[08:18:40] <chromas> the bastard
[08:18:47] <chromas> unlike the epoch dev :)
[08:19:06] <crutchy> he must be poettering 2.0
[08:22:21] <crutchy> hehe. uselessd needs smack support in the kernel :p
[08:22:31] <crutchy> cos it really smacks the llama's ass
[08:23:31] <chromas> smacker and bink
[08:23:35] <chromas> radgames
[08:23:54] <chromas> starcraft++
[08:23:54] <Bender> karma - starcraft: 3
[08:24:02] <crutchy> starcraft++
[08:24:03] <Bender> karma - starcraft: 4
[08:24:21] <crutchy> ut2k4++
[08:24:21] <Bender> karma - ut2k4: 1
[08:29:15] <arti> clicking++
[08:29:15] <Bender> karma - clicking: 1
[08:29:50] <crutchy> msdos++
[08:29:50] <Bender> karma - msdos: 1
[08:30:39] <crutchy> msdos.sys++ # for being so small and seemingly useless but essential for booting
[08:30:47] <crutchy> aww
[08:31:49] <chromas> licking++
[08:31:49] <Bender> karma - licking: 1
[08:31:56] <chromas> ++msdos.sys
[08:31:56] <Hedonismbot> Karma - msdos.sys: 1
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[11:09:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Face Detection Algorithm Set to Revolutionize Image Search - http://sylnt.us - hat-wearing-minority
[11:09:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:09:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1085
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[11:18:46] <juggs> morning TMB
[11:18:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, how goes?
[11:19:59] <juggs> good thanks. you?
[11:20:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> let ya know after repeated application of coffee
[11:23:09] <juggs> aye - need more caffeine myself
[11:24:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's what, almost noon there?
[11:24:39] <juggs> 11.24 yup
[11:25:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep forgetting you're more or less on my schedule
[11:25:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:25:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1086
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[11:26:53] <juggs> been up a few hours and been into town already... just need a caffeine boost
[11:27:01] <juggs> and some food thinking about it
[12:40:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Obama: Outcry Over Snowden Relevations May Be Competitively Motivated - http://sylnt.us - civil-liberties-trade-offs
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[14:16:10] <n1> ahoy
[14:16:26] <juggs> ahoy matey
[14:19:10] <n1> just made me think of the band alestorm
[14:20:57] <n1> https://www.youtube.com
[14:20:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Alestorm - Over the Seas - YouTube
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[14:41:15] <janrinok> hi guys
[14:41:28] <n1> hey janrinok
[14:41:41] <janrinok> hi nick
[14:42:15] <janrinok> how's things in your world?
[14:42:42] <n1> expensive but good
[14:42:58] <n1> thinking about saying fuck it and having the afternoon off
[14:43:02] <n1> how about you?
[14:43:04] <janrinok> lol - I thought you had the benefit of almost deflation?
[14:43:32] <n1> well, in general maybe
[14:43:41] <n1> but i just invested some money into the business, twice as much as i kind of planned on
[14:43:45] <janrinok> things are good here. Bright sunshine, cool but pleasant, and everyone reasonably well
[14:44:12] <janrinok> I hope it brings you good returns on your investment
[14:44:19] <n1> i'm staggering investing money back in over the last and next few months, but it just feels painful every other week throwing another few hundred into equipment and such
[14:45:16] <n1> yeah, got some sunshine here today which is nice
[14:49:09] <janrinok> there has been a good spread of editors over the last 48 hours - it has certainly eased the pressure a little
[14:50:07] <n1> yeah, when i did some last night we were 12hrs ahead by the time i'd finished
[14:50:40] <janrinok> yep - I can sleep much better when I'm not worrying about the queue!
[14:50:44] <n1> should be able to rely on me being here now, at least until festival season
[14:51:24] <janrinok> I agree with your comment on the HP story - do you want to move back to our own home?
[14:51:43] <n1> sure
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[15:43:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Star Brushed the Edge of Our Solar System Just 70,000 Years Ago - http://sylnt.us - planetary-snooker
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[16:18:03] <ar> https://github.com
[16:18:05] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03vlc/NEWS at master · videolan/vlc · GitHub
[16:19:21] <ar> that planetary-snooker thing sounds like the dim giant gas planet from Blindsight
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[17:10:40] <ar> https://blog.filippo.io
[17:10:40] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03So I lost my NAS password
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[20:16:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Potential "Mars One" Colonists Shortlisted to 100 Candidates - http://sylnt.us - checks-for-own-name
[20:18:35] <paulej72> too quite. It is not good when Bender is the most talkitive "person" here
[20:20:05] * n1 puts up a 'free beer' sign
[20:25:12] <JamesNZ> Heh, when I saw this guy I thought for a second it was LP :P https://community.mars-one.com
[20:25:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Lennart - Mars One Community Platform
[20:25:43] <n1> LP?
[20:26:18] <JamesNZ> Lennart Poettering.
[20:26:51] <n1> guess lennart is a popular name in germany
[20:27:32] <n1> im sure there are plenty of people who wouldnt mind mr poettering being on a one-way trip to mars
[20:28:09] <JamesNZ> :P
[20:31:50] <n1> wishful thinking on your part, JamesNZ?
[20:32:26] <JamesNZ> Nope, I have no ill-feeling towards Lennart.
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[20:41:37] <Cyprus> if you think his stuff is barely maintained now...
[20:56:22] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:56:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1087
[20:56:23] <crutchy> ++coffee
[20:56:23] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 274
[20:58:56] <crutchy> systemd++
[20:58:56] <Bender> karma - systemd: -18
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[21:13:38] <crutchy> janet yellen reminds me of the witch from 'the sword in the sttone'
[21:15:10] <crutchy> wtf. how does "Russian President Vladimir Putin is calling on pro-Russian rebels to allow besieged Ukrainian troops safe passage out of the encircled town of Debaltseve in eastern Ukraine" warrant a headline like "Putin Demands Surrender of Encircled Ukrainian Troops"
[21:15:41] <n1> because evil russians
[21:16:28] * crutchy sighs. yeah seems to be the flavor of the year
[21:16:40] <n1> if it was the US/NATO doing exactly the same thing it would be "Obama brokers ceasefire in Debaltseve"
[21:16:46] <crutchy> lol
[21:17:07] <n1> am i wrong?
[21:17:19] <crutchy> unfortunately no
[21:17:41] <crutchy> news is depressing
[21:17:51] * crutchy closes browser
[21:18:05] <crutchy> how you been nick?
[21:18:05] <ciri> don't ask me!
[21:18:13] * n1 dropkicks ciri
[21:18:44] <n1> i've been good, thanks. feeling refreshed and trying not to let the depressing news get me down too much.
[21:18:51] <n1> how about yourself?
[21:19:30] <crutchy> i should try that. i'm ok really can't complain too much. about to head out for work. hoping its not raining cos i gotta walk today :p
[21:20:28] <n1> for me it was getting out of London and being reminded that the rest of the world isn't an urban/surburban jungle of concrete and profit profit profit
[21:20:48] <n1> walk? what is walk?
[21:22:39] <crutchy> hah. yeah i like walking. i'm lucky i live close enough to walk to work i guess
[21:23:09] <n1> walking is nice, in the right environment, same as cycling.
[21:23:16] <n1> but around these parts i find it just unpleasant
[21:23:58] <crutchy> i live around a bunch of coal-fired power stations and other industrial plant, so its not the nicest place either
[21:24:09] <n1> how long is the walk to work?
[21:24:10] <ciri> don't ask me!
[21:24:16] <crutchy> about 15 mins
[21:24:26] <n1> thats not too bad at all, can see why you would walk it
[21:24:32] <crutchy> anyway, best be off. have a good day matey
[21:24:42] <n1> take care, enjoy your walk ;)
[21:24:47] <crutchy> ~g'day #soylent
[21:24:48] * exec covertly passes a blagoblag of g'day juice to #soylent
[21:24:51] <crutchy> :D
[21:34:18] * JamesNZ shlurps happily
[21:45:43] <n1> what does g'day juice taste like
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[22:18:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MN Legislature Introduces Amendment to Protect Electronic Communication - http://sylnt.us - one-state-at-a-time
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[23:23:53] <chromas> getting a bit noisy in here; hard to keep up
[23:26:32] <n1> say what? i couldn't hear you over all the other people talking...
[23:27:54] <chromas> 'It said development of its health sensor technology has failed to meet standards, with inconsistency from sensor readings, arising from hairy arms or dry skin."
[23:28:13] <chromas> no problem. hipsters don't have that
[23:28:31] <chromas> ciri: hipsters don't have dry skin
[23:28:43] <n1> people are not good enough for apple technology
[23:28:45] <chromas> ciri++ #poor ciri
[23:28:45] <Bender> karma - ciri: -36
[23:28:59] <n1> apple hasn't failed, evolution has failed apple
[23:29:17] <chromas> I wonder if apple's the only one whose smartwatch/health bands have that issue
[23:30:01] <n1> can't say i really care, we dont need more people obsessing over their health
[23:30:32] <n1> the goal is surely for your health band to start going "we have analyzed your health data and suggest you ask your doctor about x treatment"
[23:31:10] <n1> this message brought to you by pfizer
[23:31:38] <chromas> hipsters don't go to the doctor
[23:31:53] <n1> they will if apple starts telling them to
[23:32:03] <chromas> need moar natural organic herbal supplements
[23:32:13] <chromas> cruelty-free
[23:32:23] <n1> and im sure that can be worked into it
[23:32:24] <chromas> vegan herbs
[23:32:57] <n1> and that will obviously cost even more
[23:33:02] <n1> because it's natural and organic
[23:33:29] <n1> and will only have a shelf life of a week, so you'll always have to buy more before youve even got halfway through the first bottle/packet
[23:33:33] * chromas pokes Bender
[23:36:10] <paulej72> Hello all
[23:36:30] <paulej72> and quit poking Bender, he dents easily
[23:36:50] <chromas> he's busy drinking and forgot the new article
[23:39:16] <paulej72> !karma paulej72
[23:39:16] <Bender> karma of paulej72 is 104
[23:39:36] <chromas> Bender: rss-sleeptime SoylentNews
[23:39:36] <Bender> sleeptime for SoylentNews is 1800 seconds
[23:49:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Ditches Health-Monitoring Features from Watch - http://sylnt.us - tick-tock-sick-tock
[23:49:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh, been a long day
[23:52:04] <paulej72> packing shit
[23:56:39] <paulej72> looks like the last article was posted to SN just after Bender took a look at the rss feed.