#Soylent | Logs for 2015-02-14

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[00:04:01] <ar> 2.1.2 :163 > title.split.map do |word| preserve = false; word.chars { |x| preserve = true if x == x.upcase }; word.capitalize! if not preserve; word end
[00:04:04] <ar> => ["A", "Capital", "Idea", "About", "FBI,", "iPhone", "And", "Apple"]
[00:04:07] <ar> 2.1.2 :164 > title
[00:04:09] <ar> => "A capital idea about FBI, iPhone and Apple"
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[00:07:50] <ar> did i miss something?
[00:09:36] <crutchy> ¿
[00:10:26] <ar> >234723 | Bender | [SoylentNews] - A Capital Idea - http://sylnt.us - start-coding
[00:10:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: A Capital Idea 04(32 comments) ( https://soylentnews.org )
[00:11:42] <crutchy> is that ruby?
[00:11:51] <ar> yes, it's ruby
[00:12:31] <crutchy> looks like jibberish to me but i don't know ruby
[00:12:53] <crutchy> looks a bit java'ish or summin
[00:13:05] <ar> javaish? oh hell no
[00:13:16] <ar> a bit lispish if anything
[00:13:28] <ar> or perlish
[00:14:01] * crutchy shudders
[00:14:05] <crutchy> perl--
[00:14:06] <Bender> karma - perl: 4
[00:14:35] <crutchy> i think perl is one of the main reasons why SN has so few devs
[00:14:52] <crutchy> and cos slash is a monstrosity
[00:15:04] <crutchy> but monstrosities can be tamed
[00:15:21] <crutchy> perl is like a locked gate for many i think
[00:15:22] <chromas> Only if people are willing
[00:17:01] <ar> you can write horrible ruby code, you can write ruby code that looks like pseudocode and you can write ruby code that places it among the LISPs
[00:17:08] <ar> it all depends on the programmer
[00:17:35] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[00:17:35] <Bender> karma - tea: 400
[00:17:38] <JamesNZ> --coffee
[00:17:38] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 263
[00:18:07] <chromas> Poor ☕
[00:18:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Smoking Is Even Deadlier Than Previously Thought - http://sylnt.us - it's-never-good-news
[00:18:47] <ar> huh. java has its own unicode character
[00:19:11] <crutchy> oh yeah the coffee mug
[00:19:28] <chromas> ☕++
[00:19:36] <chromas> ++☕++
[00:19:36] <Hedonismbot> Karma - ☕++: 1
[00:19:51] <chromas> Derp. Nice deleting, me
[00:19:56] <crutchy> coffee++ # the only reason why java is so popular
[00:19:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1066
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[00:25:57] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[00:25:58] <ciri> hey whats up BadCoderFinger
[00:28:51] <crutchy> ~gday BadCoderFinger
[00:28:52] * exec abnormally blows an assfull of boogers at BadCoderFinger
[00:29:03] <crutchy> o.0
[00:31:19] <chromas> Abnormally. What's the normal way to blow an assful?
[00:32:40] <crutchy> !g what is the normal way to blow an assful of boogers?
[00:32:41] <ciri> 357,000 results | Full Metal Jacket - Movie Quotes @ http://www.moviequotes.com | 1000 Ways to Die (season 3, 2011) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org(season_3,_2011) | The List - 1000 Ways To Die Wiki @ http://1000waystodie.wikia.com | Big Brother 2012 - Part II - DataLounge @
[00:32:42] <ciri> http://www.datalounge.com | Do not shave your ass hair! | Accurate Precision @ https://leedeth.wordpress.com
[00:33:14] <crutchy> hmm. lucky i don't shave my ass hair
[00:33:30] <BadCoderFinger> Hey crutchy
[00:33:40] <BadCoderFinger> TMI, dude.
[00:34:01] <crutchy> :D
[00:35:21] <BadCoderFinger> Good god, look at my spam folder!
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[00:36:38] <JamesNZ> I don't think I want too.
[00:37:10] * Subsentient loves women in scrubs
[00:38:37] * crutchy wonders who's bot that is
[00:39:04] * crutchy really needs to fix his bot's user tracking script :/
[00:39:23] <crutchy> would be handy to be able to seach by host
[00:39:42] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Sounds NSA-ish!
[00:40:05] <crutchy> xchat is definitely the NSA then :p
[00:40:23] * JamesNZ nods vigorously
[00:40:56] * Subsentient uses xchat, reports you for sedition
[00:41:28] <JamesNZ> Nuuuuu!
[00:41:34] * crutchy copies results from /who into gedit. works well :)
[00:41:52] <BadCoderFinger> Hrm... posted to bash.org/NSA
[00:42:14] <crutchy> unfortunately no other match for 5.102.hmu.ik
[00:42:38] <crutchy> though nc appears to have two nicks
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[00:55:31] <Subsentient> lol, reading bash.org
[00:55:31] <Subsentient> <kierabee> though the idea of 'talking dirty' with you does numb my brain a little
[00:55:31] <Subsentient> <ian_> OK, I'll start so you can get the hang of it. "I slowly remove your top and spread hummus around your armpits, inhaling the intertwining BO and chick-pea aroma"
[00:55:31] <Subsentient> <kierabee> that's great
[00:56:53] <chromas> I don't remember noticing Soybot before
[01:01:38] <crutchy> i thought maybe it was sir finkus' bot, but he has different host
[01:02:05] <crutchy> bots++
[01:02:05] <Bender> karma - bots: 7
[01:09:21] <paulej72> hola folks
[01:12:34] <swiss> hello
[01:13:06] <crutchy> g'day
[01:15:20] <paulej72> perl is the language of love. you got to love it to use it
[01:15:47] <ar> "ruby"downcase.chars.collect { |c| (c.ord > 128? c : (c.ord - 97 + 13) % 26 + 97).chr }.join ""
[01:15:50] <ar> erm
[01:15:54] <ar> "ruby".downcase.chars.collect { |c| (c.ord > 128? c : (c.ord - 97 + 13) % 26 + 97).chr }.join ""
[01:17:27] <crutchy> paulej72, everyone else just pities it :p
[01:18:09] <crutchy> ruby just looks weird
[01:18:35] <crutchy> but i guess to a ruby coder php prolly looks weird too. all relative
[01:18:59] <ar> php is weird and crappy by definition
[01:19:10] <paulej72> too new for me. I like my languages properly aged
[01:19:38] <crutchy> main reason why i chose to learn php was ubiquity
[01:20:03] <paulej72> was talking about ruby. php is fine for web development
[01:20:26] <crutchy> java is ubiquitous too, but oracle is the devil
[01:21:02] <ar> oh come on. even the initial author of php said that it's not a good language
[01:21:25] <crutchy> syntax-wise it has a c feel
[01:21:39] <crutchy> nothing really that unusual about the php language
[01:22:03] <crutchy> there are things i hate about it, like weak typing
[01:22:28] <ar> except, why use php if all you get is a slow wraper around C that doesn't even do basic sanity checks on the C stdlib functions it calls?
[01:22:54] <crutchy> if performance were an issue then wikipedia wouldn't be using it
[01:22:59] <crutchy> nor facecrap
[01:23:27] <ar> performance is an issue and facecrap uses its own implementation of it
[01:23:42] <crutchy> still uses the php language
[01:24:27] <paulej72> funny thing is I don't do php coding, I just help out one of my coworkers
[01:24:29] <ar> their implementation of php doesn't behave 100% like any php version ever released
[01:24:44] <swiss> i read a funny thing the other day
[01:24:51] <crutchy> you can run almost any php script using hhvm
[01:25:08] <swiss> "No, hiring PHP developers does NOT count towards the number of employees with disabilities"
[01:25:12] <paulej72> hhvm?
[01:25:24] <crutchy> hhvm is what facecrap uses
[01:25:35] <crutchy> its php but sort of compiled or summin
[01:26:02] <paulej72> but does hiring perl devs count
[01:26:19] <ar> calling hhvm php is kind of like calling php perl
[01:26:26] <crutchy> only warning i got when i ran my bot using hhvm was something about needing to set default timezone explicitly
[01:26:32] <chromas> does your soylent parking spot have a wheelchair painted on it?
[01:26:52] <swiss> paulej72: of course not, that's just counts towards your number of old-ass devs
[01:26:52] <crutchy> ar, i can literally run my php bot with 'hhvm irc.php'
[01:27:07] <paulej72> no it has a target painted on it
[01:27:12] <crutchy> lol
[01:27:42] <chromas> crutchy: nope. different implementation; totally different language. just like gcc vs msvc vs watcom
[01:28:39] <crutchy> dammit. i must have downloaded a php binary renamed as hhvm then :p
[01:29:47] <swiss> >php binary
[01:29:53] <swiss> wouldn't it be a php script?
[01:30:12] <crutchy> lol i meant the binary that runs the script
[01:30:12] <ciri> hehehe
[01:30:44] <swiss> ah
[01:31:14] <crutchy> not sure why exec run slow with hhvm, but i thought maybe cos it was a crapload of scripts all running as separate processes might have initially caused some issues
[01:32:59] <crutchy> would be nice to have exec scripts running as native binaries though
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[01:34:28] <paulej72> just get a faster machine
[01:34:40] <crutchy> i like the sound of hack too, cos its php with static typing
[01:34:51] <crutchy> and hack runs on hhvm as well
[01:38:02] <paulej72> let's use .net. it's open source now
[01:38:16] <crutchy> 'trust us... we're microsoft'
[01:38:46] <paulej72> easier to trust the evil you know
[01:39:07] <chromas> .net: when Delphi goes X
[01:39:10] <chromas> s/X/C/
[01:39:10] <sedctl> <chromas> .net: when Delphi goes C
[01:39:19] <chromas> Can't even type one-letter words
[01:39:26] <crutchy> delphi has already been infected by .net :(
[01:39:35] <crutchy> is why i still use delphi 7
[01:39:58] <chromas> I think they toned that down by 9 or 10
[01:40:17] <chromas> Not that I've used anything since 7
[01:40:39] <crutchy> lazarus++
[01:40:39] <Bender> karma - lazarus: 2
[01:40:59] <paulej72> the last compiled language I used was fortran
[01:41:25] <crutchy> lazarus++ # like delphi except you gotta disable a bunch of extra modern ui fluff
[01:41:25] <Bender> karma - lazarus: 3
[01:41:42] <chromas> ya do?
[01:41:51] <crutchy> i converted a fortran program to pascal once. fortran is easy to read at least
[01:41:57] <chromas> I thought it looked a lot like delphi 7, but without plugins
[01:42:12] <crutchy> i don't like all the collapsing code and marker lines n shit
[01:42:39] <chromas> ah
[01:43:30] <crutchy> laz seems to be a lot slower at compiling than delphi too. not that its a big deal
[01:43:48] <chromas> it is. inching toward C in speed :(
[01:44:01] <chromas> at least it still doesn't need make files
[01:44:23] <crutchy> yeah. that seems like a whole nuther language in itself
[01:44:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i see yall been badmouthing my language
[01:44:58] <crutchy> perl? no we're commiserating for it :p
[01:45:14] <paulej72> white space dependencies in fortran at least the early versions
[01:46:39] <crutchy> ar is still trying to convince me that php is crap
[01:46:41] <paulej72> we need to rewrite slash in the worst language possible
[01:46:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> brainfuck?
[01:47:21] <crutchy> well it is to some extent. i might end up going to hack if that becomes more popular, but i aint jumping ship to something that isn't widely used
[01:47:31] <paulej72> assembly
[01:47:41] <paulej72> Python
[01:48:00] <crutchy> assembly would make slash into the most awesomesauce cms in history :D
[01:48:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima hafta revolt if it's python
[01:48:13] <ar> crutchy: i'm not trying to convince you that php is crap
[01:48:30] <ar> crutchy: i'm trying to convince you to open your eyes and see for yourself that php is crap
[01:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like regexs that are actually useful, python has them not.
[01:48:35] <crutchy> lol
[01:48:35] <ciri> now that is funny
[01:49:00] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: how is that? i thought that python has the same regex implementation perl, ruby and java do
[01:49:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean a statement to precompile the fucking regex? when the hell are you not going to want to compile a regex that it needs to be spelled out for you?
[01:49:23] <ar> oh
[01:49:29] <crutchy> ar, i code php almost every day. language wise i dunno what your beef is. is there a specific syntax that you think sucks more than others?
[01:49:33] <ar> that crap. yes, that's crap
[01:49:51] <ar> crutchy: language-design-wise
[01:49:53] <chromas> he prefers chicken
[01:50:01] <crutchy> so you got nuthin?
[01:50:17] <chromas> fight fight fight!
[01:50:22] <crutchy> language-design-wise php is similar to a lot of other languages
[01:50:24] <paulej72> yogurt
[01:50:33] <crutchy> !fight yoghurt vs yoda
[01:50:34] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: yoda beats yoghurt by 32,100,000 to 26,700,000!
[01:50:45] <crutchy> well, duh!
[01:50:50] <SpallsHurgenson> Yogurt! I hate yogurt!
[01:50:51] <ar> crutchy: the fact that it gives you all the safety and easyness of C combined with the speed of a scripting language
[01:50:58] <crutchy> !fight darth yoghurt vs yoda
[01:50:58] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: yoda beats darth yoghurt by 32,100,000 to 1,840,000!
[01:51:14] <ar> crutchy: the fact that it's inconsistent in its standard library about methood naming schemes
[01:51:24] <chromas> !fight yogurt vs yoghurt
[01:51:24] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: yogurt beats yoghurt by 104,000,000 to 26,700,000!
[01:51:27] <crutchy> ar, they not language design issues
[01:51:34] <SpallsHurgenson> even with strawberries
[01:51:47] <ar> crutchy: the fact that it has tricky corner cases in places you wouldn't even dare to imagine there could be cornercases
[01:51:55] <crutchy> like where?
[01:52:09] <swiss> let's just change this into a convo about how much better Go is than every other language out there
[01:52:47] <crutchy> and every language has corner cases. i guess if you're coding some funky weird thing that's unlike anything else of course you would need to be picky about the language you use
[01:53:05] <swiss> unless you always used go
[01:53:08] <swiss> which is perfect for everything
[01:53:15] <crutchy> go never stops :p
[01:53:18] <ar> crutchy: >json_decode returns null for invalid input, even though null is also a perfectly valid object for JSON to decode to—this function is completely unreliable unless you also call json_last_error every time you use it.
[01:53:29] <chromas> hack looks like it's got some pascal-ness to it
[01:53:33] <JamesNZ> !fight json vs xml
[01:53:34] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: xml beats json by 723,000,000 to 93,300,000!
[01:53:36] <crutchy> dude that's a function. not part of the language design
[01:53:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, you know how we have mixed camel-case and underscored variable names all through slash?
[01:53:58] <ar> crutchy: why should you even have to call "json_last_error"? we're in XXI century in a high-level programming language, not C in 1980s
[01:54:05] <paulej72> sure as shit
[01:54:06] <crutchy> lol
[01:54:07] <chromas> !fight underscored toe vs camel toe
[01:54:08] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: camel toe beats underscored toe by 9,980,000 to 1,210,000!
[01:54:23] <swiss> i remember stuff like 5 ducks + 6 crows == 11 birds works in php
[01:54:25] <swiss> which is gross
[01:54:29] <crutchy> why should i have to spell 'for' to make a for loop dammit!
[01:54:33] <swiss> !fight camel toe vs camel case
[01:54:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we should start alternating just to fuck with anyone who comes along afterwards. not switch up for every other variable but for every other word in each single variable.
[01:54:33] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: camel toe beats camel case by 9,980,000 to 3,440,000!
[01:54:42] <paulej72> got some Hungarian notation as well
[01:54:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> my getCurrent_user
[01:54:56] <ar> swiss: you shouldn't. you should iterate over iterables/enumerables
[01:55:01] <ar> erm, sorry
[01:55:09] <ar> crutchy: generally, you shouldn't. you should iterate over iterables/enumerables
[01:55:45] <crutchy> what are you talking about man?
[01:55:51] <ar> 025429 | crutchy | why should i have to spell 'for' to make a for loop dammit!
[01:56:02] <crutchy> sorry still not getting it
[01:56:04] <crutchy> :p
[01:56:24] <chromas> use foreach when you can
[01:56:31] <crutchy> oh you mean every language that uses 'for' to make a for loop is shit?
[01:56:42] <ar> no
[01:57:06] <crutchy> i was being facetious before. i didn't think you'd take me seriously :D
[01:57:24] <ar> high-level languages that force you to use for when iterating over lists suck
[01:57:44] <ar> (but i belive that php has foreach)
[01:57:51] <crutchy> foreach is handy
[01:58:09] <crutchy> but i still gotta type 'for' in that too!
[01:58:31] <ar> also, afict most of things mentioned in http://eev.ee still aren't fixed
[01:58:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03PHP: a fractal of bad design / fuzzy notepad
[01:58:50] <crutchy> pfft. there's fractals of bad design everywhere
[01:59:04] <ar> except not
[01:59:14] <crutchy> php isn't robinson caruso on the island of bad design fractals
[01:59:22] <ar> except it is
[01:59:33] <ar> ;)
[01:59:49] <crutchy> i guess i should just learn ruby and everything will be rosy and pink :p
[01:59:52] <ar> php is the only non-esoteric programming language that has all of these issues
[02:00:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl is still the best. a more elegant language for a more civilized age.
[02:00:16] <ar> crutchy: no, it won't. but at least it'll be consistent and predictable
[02:00:38] <crutchy> i'll tell ya what ar. when wikipedia changes to ruby, i'll give it a shot :D
[02:01:05] <chromas> when systemd switches to ruby
[02:01:33] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard, is there a compiler for perl?
[02:01:41] <crutchy> seems like there should be given how old it is
[02:01:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> used to be but then people came to their senses.
[02:01:53] <crutchy> lol
[02:02:08] <crutchy> i guess its sort of half-compiled or summin
[02:02:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> best of both worlds
[02:03:21] <ar> crutchy: saying that php is good because wikipedia uses it is like saying that javascript is good because it's in every browser.
[02:03:35] <crutchy> well, js has that
[02:04:09] <crutchy> saying js is crap cos its in every browser is pretty dumb
[02:04:11] <chromas> browsers should use python
[02:04:16] <chromas> or ruby
[02:04:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> js also has visualbasicghonnasyphilaids
[02:04:21] <ar> crutchy: just because something's been used at a particular task doesn't mean that it's the best tool for the job, especially when there's been some time between invention/deployment of said tool and "now"
[02:05:02] <crutchy> true
[02:05:09] <crutchy> but what of it? we use what we have
[02:05:22] <crutchy> php works. js is in every browser... ?
[02:05:41] <ar> and we do have better tools than php, which is like a hammer with two claws
[02:05:51] <crutchy> such a cool hammer :)
[02:05:56] <paulej72> if all I have is a hammer everything looks like a nail
[02:06:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl is still the best tool ever invented for bending text to your will. the web is mostly text. perl is the best tool for the web. discuss.
[02:06:13] <crutchy> damn straight. php whacks everything :D
[02:06:34] <crutchy> perl is like php but with gray hair :p
[02:06:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> .nukefromorbit crutchy
[02:06:54] <paulej72> using php for non web stuff seems strange
[02:06:54] <chromas> We should create a new language whose syntax is entirely a pile of regex
[02:07:14] <chromas> texthammer
[02:07:14] <crutchy> yeah i never even contemplated using php for non-web till i came here
[02:07:24] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: if it wasn't for the fact that perl makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot, i'd agree
[02:07:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, that's half the fun. weeding out the noobs.
[02:08:10] <chromas> leaving two devs to do all the work
[02:08:10] <paulej72> I will create,a,language that has only two chars that you can use. fu
[02:08:36] <crutchy> tmb, when i first looked at slashcode i started trying to code some perl (see my early SN journals) but the error messages are pretty cryptic and there doesn't seem to be as much online help
[02:08:47] <ar> (though i did awesome/horrible things like writing web applications in c++ using qt thread, socket and http parser abstractions…)
[02:08:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, right but two devs can do all the work. it's that awesome.
[02:09:07] <crutchy> i love how easy it is to do network programming in php
[02:09:31] <ar> if you really want to do network programming, you should look at erlang
[02:09:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, i wrote a mini http daemon in like three lines
[02:09:51] <ar> it's *the* tool for the job, especially for non-plaintext protocols
[02:10:04] <crutchy> delphi does socket programming better than php imho (more thread control) but php is easy
[02:10:22] <paulej72> cpan modules
[02:10:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> cpan > *
[02:10:53] <ar> cpan is a bit sad. many of the modules there are long abandoned
[02:11:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's like rule #34 for perl coding
[02:11:19] <paulej72> that is because perl has stagnated
[02:11:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> heretic!
[02:11:36] <paulej72> perl 6 is the problem
[02:11:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> not stagnated, was perfected and left alone.
[02:11:46] <ar> creating the illusion that there are ready-to-use modules for just about everything, when in fact most of them are lacking in some way
[02:11:48] <paulej72> true
[02:12:04] <ar> because, surprise surprise, the world isn't standing still
[02:12:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> say that about any other language. they're always fucking things up and breaking backwards compatibility.
[02:12:22] <crutchy> php has a bunch of frameworks and fluff available, but i prefer to use built-in features
[02:12:31] <crutchy> frameworks--
[02:12:32] <Bender> karma - frameworks: -7
[02:12:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can still mostly run perl4 code in 5.20
[02:12:47] <paulej72> I have written perl code for Windows admin function
[02:14:09] <ar> anyway, it's 3:14AM here
[02:14:12] <ar> sleep time
[02:14:21] <crutchy> g'night ar
[02:14:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and here's the real proof, you can have SN users be happy with your site using perl
[02:14:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[02:14:29] <crutchy> catch ya on the flipside
[02:14:30] <paulej72> sleep is for the dead
[02:15:10] <chromas> Sleep now, so you can enjoy all the time after you die
[02:15:22] <crutchy> SN is pretty sweet
[02:15:51] <crutchy> anyone know how many sql queries get run / how many files get read / etc per request?
[02:16:03] <paulej72> 5000000000
[02:16:21] <chromas> 5000000042
[02:16:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, once you get into the swing of things, coding slash is pretty freakin nice. no worries bout did i or didn't i escape variable blah so it doesn't get to inject sql.
[02:17:12] <paulej72> I bet it is a lot and the scary thing is not all of it is cached
[02:17:18] <crutchy> does slash use prepared statements?
[02:17:40] <chromas> sql-- # for in-band signalling
[02:17:40] <Bender> karma - sql: -3
[02:17:40] <crutchy> i haven't got into that side of it much
[02:17:42] <paulej72> in a way.
[02:17:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> it uses custom subs that take care of all the necessary escaping/preparing/etc...
[02:19:08] <crutchy> prepared statements are cool cos you can keep sql in a separate file
[02:19:10] <crutchy> https://github.com
[02:19:10] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/db.inc at master · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub
[02:19:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why you never hear me going argh cause i accidentally wrote an insecure sub. it can't happen unless i get a raging case of the dumbass.
[02:20:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Gives us an Amazing Look at the ‘Dark’ Side of the Moon - http://sylnt.us - not-so-dark-side
[02:20:08] <crutchy> though reading a file every query not very efficient, but i'm trying to reduce queries too
[02:20:56] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[02:20:57] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Nest Protect is a terrible buggy product - YouTube
[02:21:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> db queries for cachable things are largely cached in slash and automatically use the cache if something is there to use.
[02:21:03] <SirFinkus> idk why this is so funny, but it is
[02:21:25] <SirFinkus> FUCKING SMOKE
[02:21:49] <SirFinkus> like, the alarms have perfect comedic timing
[02:22:01] <chromas> Why would they put it where they can't reach it
[02:22:02] <crutchy> yeah i think i might rework where stuff is read from
[02:22:15] <crutchy> maybe read it all in from one file
[02:22:16] <chromas> crutchy: store the queries in another table :D
[02:22:21] <crutchy> lol
[02:22:21] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[02:22:24] <crutchy> like slash :p
[02:22:47] <crutchy> need moar abstraction!
[02:23:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> abstract you reading. have it check a cache first then query the file if no cached entry exists. bonus points for adding aging to the cached values.
[02:23:46] <crutchy> if i need more than one query per request i'm doing it wrong
[02:23:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and a don'tfuckingreadthecache boolean for debugging
[02:24:36] <crutchy> haha. i did something similar at work with a dev flag in a delphi program. accidentally released to prod with dev flag enabled
[02:24:48] <crutchy> reworked the program to remove the dev flag in the end
[02:24:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh
[02:25:21] <paulej72> that is how win7 is faster than vista. debug code removed
[02:27:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought it was same code, faster cpus
[02:27:38] <crutchy> but with new wallpapers@!
[02:28:01] <chromas> Windows 95 was inspired by perl
[02:28:16] <crutchy> i liked windows 95
[02:28:25] <crutchy> it still had old dos behind it
[02:28:32] <chromas> as a loader
[02:28:47] <crutchy> yeah
[02:28:49] <chromas> My Documents; My Computer; My SQL
[02:29:00] <ar> having old dos behind it isn't a good thing
[02:29:06] <crutchy> the registry was a fuckup
[02:29:22] <chromas> the windows registry was the systemd of its day
[02:29:27] <crutchy> yeah
[02:29:27] <chromas> Start out simple, then take over everything
[02:29:43] <chromas> Databases are just wrong
[02:30:00] <crutchy> though i can imagine windows would be pretty slow if all that cruft was stored in .ini files
[02:30:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> fu, plaintext config files rule
[02:30:34] <crutchy> oh i agree
[02:30:49] <crutchy> problem with db's is that they attract cruft
[02:30:52] <chromas> You just need to redefine "plain"
[02:30:56] <paulej72> bunch of crap that is not needed by other os
[02:31:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, like systemd then
[02:32:42] <crutchy> i like that you can comment config files. i'd rather comment config files than code
[02:32:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i still remember the nerd rage i had trying to figure out how to connect to a bbs without a good terminal program with the 95 switch
[02:33:03] <ar> it would be nice if windows used something like hiera
[02:33:21] <ar> basically, a hierarchy of yaml files
[02:33:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no markup
[02:33:48] <crutchy> xml by any other name
[02:33:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> #comment or
[02:34:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> var=value
[02:34:21] <crutchy> yup
[02:34:50] * TheMightyBuzzard rages against the dbus
[02:35:09] <chromas> you love it
[02:36:18] <crutchy> ew yaml is based on indentation. fuck that's even worse than markup
[02:36:49] <paulej72> whitespace is your friend
[02:36:50] <chromas> ooh, it's like xml for python
[02:36:58] * crutchy shudders
[02:37:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, now i need liquor
[02:37:16] <chromas> it's okay for python 'cause you indent anyhow
[02:37:36] <crutchy> ima stick with mah php and conf
[02:37:41] * chromas raises fish and burrito shield
[02:38:01] * crutchy plants some lawn seed
[02:38:05] <chromas> epoch uses ini-style config
[02:38:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> !beer chromas
[02:38:08] * ciri pours some chromas from the tap and slides it to TheMightyBuzzard
[02:38:13] <chromas> epoch++ for president
[02:38:13] <Bender> karma - epoch: 10
[02:38:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah
[02:38:37] <chromas> I am inside you now
[02:38:38] * TheMightyBuzzard hurls a can of beer coors at chromas
[02:38:43] <chromas> feels good
[02:38:48] <crutchy> if Subsentient were in charge we'd all be eating peanut butter and rat shit
[02:38:50] <crutchy> :D
[02:39:16] * crutchy senses an impending hammer of doom
[02:39:25] <chromas> peanut butter and chunky peanut butter
[02:39:45] <chromas> those aren't nuts
[02:39:53] <crutchy> they're carrot
[02:40:27] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: I've been working on putting epoch in place of system in an arch install
[02:40:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ?!
[02:40:52] <chromas> Subsentient's init system
[02:40:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> better you than me
[02:40:59] <crutchy> you prolly still just need dbus and logind
[02:41:24] <crutchy> like my debian experiment
[02:41:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i need pulseaudio so i'm pretty well stuck.
[02:41:49] <chromas> It's in the AUR but some of the services are renamed for systemd for some reason, like /lib/systemd/systemd-udev instead of /bin/udevd
[02:42:02] <crutchy> all teh cool shit depends on dbus :(
[02:42:46] <chromas> dbus is kickass. It lets me pause my music player from the mixer, something I just recently discovered but still don't need
[02:42:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, think ima have a beer, watch some trek, n crash. gotta be bright eyed n bushy tailed for bass pro tomorrow.
[02:43:20] <chromas> oh shit, that means you'll be back to slap us around in the basshole
[02:43:54] <crutchy> mixer?
[02:43:59] <chromas> sound mixer
[02:44:44] <crutchy> i have a barmix, but it doesn't even have any wireless connection to my pyewta. mixes up smoothies awesome though
[02:45:03] <crutchy> ~define basshole
[02:45:06] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3basshole: A jackass that drives through residential areas at three in the morning with the subwoofers on his car stereo at maximum volume. See also inbreeding.
[02:45:13] <crutchy> lol
[02:45:13] <ciri> hahaha
[02:45:49] <chromas> Oh, I just meant the software mixer, on the desktop
[02:46:07] <crutchy> aw
[02:46:44] <chromas> kmix in my case
[02:47:24] <crutchy> i still use an old version of winamp in windows :p
[02:47:35] <crutchy> gotta minimize my vm to change songs
[02:49:20] <chromas> oh yeah; winamp's done now :\
[02:50:04] <chromas> Too bad they skipped version 4. I, for one, was looking forward to browsing Winamp 4 skins
[02:55:31] <crutchy> i'd rather use json than yaml
[02:55:52] <crutchy> not that i like json that much either
[03:02:55] <crutchy> workspaces++
[03:02:55] <Bender> karma - workspaces: 1
[03:04:03] <chromas> are you using virtual desktops in xfce?
[03:05:00] <crutchy> nah just the workspace switcher
[03:05:19] <crutchy> or is that the same thing?
[03:05:44] <chromas> Looks like it
[03:06:01] <chromas> pretty sweet eh
[03:06:15] <crutchy> declutters the task bar
[03:06:18] <chromas> now if they'd let me switch one screen without switching the other…
[03:06:24] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, virtual desktops suck. just buy more monitors instead :)
[03:06:47] <crutchy> hehe. i have plenty of monitors. just nothing to plug them into
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[03:07:03] <SpallsHurgenson> then buy more graphic cards :)
[03:07:07] * crutchy needs some of those usb to vga/dvi thingys
[03:08:14] <crutchy> i got 7 screens i could plumb up if i got 5 adaptors
[03:08:46] <crutchy> assuming i could wrangle xorg.conf
[03:12:09] <SpallsHurgenson> don't do it; better men than you have tried and gone mad! It's impossible, I tell you, impossible!
[03:12:50] <crutchy> i agree
[03:13:07] <crutchy> i've had enough trouble trying to get 4 screens working
[03:13:38] <crutchy> nowadays i'd prolly just set up another box and use synergy
[03:14:16] <SpallsHurgenson> xorg.conf is a place of strange and alien geometries, incomprehensible to the minds of men
[03:14:35] <crutchy> maybe my wife would better understand it
[03:14:48] <SpallsHurgenson> one second...
[03:14:55] * SpallsHurgenson inserts foot in mouth before proceeding
[03:15:05] <chromas> do we still need xorg.conf for multi-head?
[03:15:20] <crutchy> i need more than that if i want any head
[03:15:26] <SpallsHurgenson> A woman? What would women understand about computers? They are not suited to the comprehension about anything technological!
[03:16:05] * SpallsHurgenson removes foot from mouth
[03:16:16] <chromas> it's okay, all the one woman left here
[03:16:33] <crutchy> women are full of strange and alien geometries, incomprehensible in the minds of men
[03:16:43] <crutchy> *to
[03:16:43] <chromas> women do have some langauges though, like cobol. You can tell because it's verbose and talks a lot to say very little
[03:17:00] <crutchy> a woman is like a beer
[03:17:07] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, we are all so going to hell for this
[03:17:39] <crutchy> oh i signed up for hell years ago. even got my marriage certificate to prove it :p
[03:17:52] <SpallsHurgenson> !grab crutchy
[03:17:52] <Bender> Added quote 381
[03:18:18] <SpallsHurgenson> !send_to_crutchy's_wife quote 381
[03:20:14] <crutchy> :D
[03:22:36] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: Worse, you're going to get sent to a feminist conference for this :P
[03:22:41] * JamesNZ hides
[03:29:02] <chromas> femducation
[03:30:37] <SpallsHurgenson> well, if we weren't all such misogynists there wouldn't need to be such a thing. :)
[03:32:47] <SpallsHurgenson> we're all bad, bad men
[04:12:03] <crutchy> http://en.ilovecoffee.jp
[04:12:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Your brain on BEER vs. COFFEE - I Love Coffee
[04:12:41] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[04:12:42] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03RMS Titanic: Fascinating Engineering Facts - YouTube
[04:47:20] <crutchy> i've always been fascinated by the design of the titanic, and the story of the firemen in the stokeholds
[04:47:49] <crutchy> what must it have been like working in there? how must they have felt when they knew the ship was going down
[04:50:28] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.securityweek.com possibly like Microsoft developers after reading this?
[04:50:29] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Researchers Bypass All Windows Protections by Modifying a Single Bit | SecurityWeek.Com
[05:06:55] <SpallsHurgenson> release the war-balls!
[05:06:57] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.defenseone.com
[05:06:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Marines Are Building Robotic War Balls - Defense One
[05:08:48] <crutchy> i don't think any of that sort of shit will ever actually be used in a real war
[05:09:24] <crutchy> storming beaches? really?!
[05:09:45] <SpallsHurgenson> do not deny me my orbs of death!
[05:09:49] <crutchy> lol
[05:10:17] <crutchy> i think the guys that make this stuff watch too many old war movies
[05:11:36] <SpallsHurgenson> no, it has always been a pivotal part of US military strategy to have automated spheres of doom in its arsenal. It's only been recently that we've had the necessary technology, however
[05:12:35] <SirFinkus> my fucking tax dollars paying for this bullshit
[05:14:12] <SpallsHurgenson> it's a line item on your 1040 and has been for years: contribute $5 to mega-death-robo-globes?
[05:15:17] <crutchy> SirFinkus, your tax dollars are prolly barely enough to pay for the irs. pentagob would be spending borrowed money against your children's taxes
[05:15:38] <SpallsHurgenson> if you didn't want the US to have kill-bubbles you should have unchecked that option :)
[05:15:43] <SirFinkus> jokes on them, I'm not having kids
[05:17:30] <crutchy> so if the robo death balls are like a pen that writes upside down, i wonder what russia's similarity to the pencil would be in this case
[05:17:58] <crutchy> putting some sandbags along the beach i guess
[05:18:02] <SpallsHurgenson> you are aware that upside-down-space-pen is just an urban myth, right?
[05:18:22] <crutchy> yeah but its so nasa
[05:18:40] <crutchy> they might not have done that, but they no doubt did the $400 hammer etc
[05:19:20] <SpallsHurgenson> have you ever tried to hammer something in space? it's not as easy as it looks. that whole "no gravity" thing is a real pain
[05:19:20] <crutchy> i wonder if these ball things have actually been tested on a real beach
[05:20:09] <SpallsHurgenson> they have; I used to have a toy RC "car" as a kid that worked under the same principles :)
[05:20:16] <crutchy> seems a bit silly to make things that would require hammering in space
[05:20:30] <SpallsHurgenson> except they wouldn't let me mount machine guns on mine :(
[05:20:40] <crutchy> bugger
[05:20:48] <crutchy> maybe you had to pay extra?
[05:21:12] <crutchy> sometimes these things don't come standard
[05:22:16] <SpallsHurgenson> no, mom just said I was too young to have self-propelled kill-bots
[05:22:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Puerto Rico Considers Fining Parents of Obese Children up to $800 - http://sylnt.us - it-will-make-their-wallet-lighter
[05:22:25] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> Moms!
[05:26:12] <crutchy> mcdonalds will have it overturned
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[07:12:33] <crutchy> juggs, you guys chasing 337. reckon you're up to it? :p
[07:14:35] <crutchy> s/337/342/
[07:14:35] <sedctl> <crutchy> juggs, you guys chasing 342. reckon you're up to it? :p
[07:26:45] <crutchy> if jeb bush wins the gop nomination, america is so fucked
[07:43:10] <SirFinkus> we're fucked anyway
[07:43:18] <SirFinkus> we're all fucked
[07:43:43] <crutchy> proper fucked
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[08:16:12] <Gravis> Re: A Capital Idea
[08:16:13] <Gravis> use Title Case and then go back through and search for proper nouns that are exceptions.
[08:16:43] <crutchy> ~g'day Gravis
[08:16:44] * exec insatiably offers a buzz saw of spew to Gravis
[08:17:02] <Gravis> this fixes both the problem with acronyms and names like iPhone
[08:20:21] <Gravis> this does however mean that you need to have a list of proper nouns which have the possibility of conflicting with normal text or even other proper nouns
[08:20:46] <Gravis> so it should be used as an editing tool, not a solution.
[08:22:42] <crutchy> could develop an automated solution. pass the title through a capitulator function which capitalizes things appropriately, based on a massive database of things
[08:24:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Droughts - You Think it's Bad Now? - http://sylnt.us - umbrella-price-crash-ahead
[08:41:49] <crutchy> Soylent's dev department is in a bit of a drought
[08:47:48] * chromas blames Microsoft
[08:48:25] <arti> suggests using booty math
[08:49:37] <chromas> Is there a cheek operator?
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[08:59:05] Soybot is now known as girlpluggedout
[09:03:56] <crutchy> ah. mystery solvered
[09:04:33] <crutchy> ~g'day girlpluggedout
[09:04:34] * exec diabolically slides a cold can of glowballs to girlpluggedout
[09:06:53] <girlpluggedout> So how many rolls of the dice do I have left before finally being served the anvil of boogers?
[09:14:15] <crutchy> dunno. here you can calculate the probability yourself :D
[09:14:16] <crutchy> https://github.com
[09:14:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/gday.php at master · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub
[09:21:03] <crutchy> prolly needs some more options in there
[09:25:56] <girlpluggedout> Hmmm. I think I'm misremembering how to calculate probability.
[09:26:14] <Gravis> <crutchy> could develop an automated solution. pass the title through a capitulator function which capitalizes things appropriately, based on a massive database of things <-- they already invented this, it's called a dictionary. ;)
[09:26:57] <crutchy> lol yeah prolly. we could use one of those thingys
[09:26:58] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[09:27:08] <crutchy> i'm laughing at pants
[09:27:08] <Gravis> girlpluggedout: are you sure you arent Brian Williams? ;)
[09:28:09] <crutchy> ~uid
[09:28:12] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5062, owned by Beryllium Sphere (r)
[09:28:21] <crutchy> ooh that's a fancy nick
[09:28:34] <girlpluggedout> It was undoubtedly the scariest day of my junior high career. The chopper I was flying in went down just as I was calculating the probablity for such an event to occur.
[09:28:45] <Gravis> LOL
[09:28:45] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[09:29:03] <Gravis> girlpluggedout: Brian, we know it'a you.
[09:29:27] <girlpluggedout> No, it'a me, Mario!
[09:29:46] <Gravis> mario is the worst plumber
[09:30:03] * crutchy throws an exploding mushroom at peach
[09:30:14] <girlpluggedout> I don't see any leaks in Mushroom Kingdom.
[09:30:45] <Gravis> is that what we're calling the NSA now?
[09:31:11] <crutchy> dammit. my sql works in workbench but not in my php :/
[09:31:18] * crutchy trundles off to ssh land
[09:32:28] <Gravis> crutchy: friends dont let friends use PHP!
[09:33:04] <Gravis> could be worse though... could be ruby.
[09:33:12] * crutchy hugs his php friend
[09:33:32] <crutchy> ooh don't say that when ar is around :p
[09:33:55] <crutchy> ~time poland
[09:33:57] <exec> Saturday, 14 February 2015 @ 10:33 am GMT+1 - Poland
[09:34:15] <Gravis> ~time greenland
[09:34:16] <exec> Saturday, 14 February 2015 @ 6:34 am GMT-3 - Nuuk, Greenland
[09:34:18] <girlpluggedout> ~time latveria
[09:34:19] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 9:34 am
[09:34:41] <Gravis> ~time transylvania
[09:34:43] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 9:34 am
[09:34:49] <Gravis> aww
[09:34:58] <crutchy> google's fault
[09:35:01] <crutchy> :p
[09:35:12] <crutchy> ~time hell
[09:35:13] <exec> Saturday, 14 February 2015 @ 4:35 am EST - Washington, DC, USA
[09:35:17] <girlpluggedout> ~time butte
[09:35:19] <exec> Saturday, 14 February 2015 @ 2:35 am MST - Butte, Mt, USA
[09:35:49] <girlpluggedout> ~time intercourse
[09:35:50] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 9:35 am
[09:36:31] <girlpluggedout> ~time intercourse, pa
[09:36:33] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 9:36 am
[09:37:06] <Gravis> ~time Olympus
[09:37:07] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 9:37 am
[09:37:19] <girlpluggedout> ~time Batman, Turkey
[09:37:21] <exec> Saturday, 14 February 2015 @ 11:37 am GMT+2 - Batman, Turkey
[09:37:23] <girlpluggedout> Heh
[09:37:29] <girlpluggedout> ~time Batman
[09:37:30] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 9:37 am
[09:37:36] <girlpluggedout> :(
[09:37:39] <Gravis> ~location batcave
[09:37:40] <exec> *** location "batcave" not found
[09:37:40] <crutchy> lol
[09:38:03] <crutchy> ~help ~time
[09:38:07] <exec> ~time location
[09:38:07] <exec> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[09:38:28] <crutchy> pfft. thas not very helpful :/
[09:38:49] <Gravis> crutchy: sure it is. exec just told you to RTFM. :0
[09:38:51] <Gravis> ;)
[09:39:24] <Gravis> though perhaps someone should WTFM. ;)
[09:40:42] <girlpluggedout> ~location butte
[09:40:43] <exec> *** location "butte" not found
[09:42:42] <crutchy> ~help ~time
[09:42:47] <exec> Syntax:
[09:42:47] <exec> ~time location
[09:42:47] <exec> Related commands:
[09:42:47] <exec> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[09:43:09] <crutchy> meh. not much better but at least the manual has been updated
[09:43:15] <girlpluggedout> from the you're-driving-it-wrong dept. http://arstechnica.com
[09:43:16] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Report: Apple has “several hundred” staffers building an electric car | Ars Technica
[09:43:57] <crutchy> ~weather
[09:43:58] <exec> 03Melbourne VIC - currently 21°C, mostly cloudy, wind SE at 3 km/h, humidity 88% - Saturday clear (17°C-30°C), Sunday clear (19°C-36°C), Monday partly cloudy (17°C-24°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (16°C-22°C)
[09:44:06] <girlpluggedout> ~weather
[09:44:06] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[09:44:16] <crutchy> need ~location-add
[09:44:32] <crutchy> ~location-add
[09:44:38] <crutchy> or not
[09:44:41] <crutchy> ~weather-add
[09:44:42] <exec> syntax: ~weather-add name location (name cannot contain spaces but location can contain spaces)
[09:44:57] <girlpluggedout> I was hoping it knew how to geo-locate my IP.
[09:45:10] <crutchy> don't ask me how to use it. i just programmed it :p
[09:45:12] <Gravis> oh it would just be the worst of Apple bought Tesla
[09:45:28] <Gravis> if*
[09:45:36] <girlpluggedout> Oh, I forgot that IPs are masked here.
[09:45:57] <crutchy> i doubt musk would stoop that low
[09:46:30] <girlpluggedout> Yeah, I wouldn't buy an elecrtric car from Apple. You know, non-user replaceable car batteries, etc.
[09:46:37] <crutchy> haha
[09:46:57] <crutchy> not to mention only allowed to use apple certified electricity
[09:47:05] <crutchy> for chargin
[09:47:07] <Gravis> crutchy: well if they buy the majority of the shares, they could take control via hostile takeover.
[09:47:13] <crutchy> s/$/g/
[09:47:13] <sedctl> <crutchy> for charging
[09:47:37] <crutchy> musk is an engineer so not your everyday dumbshit ceo
[09:47:45] <chromas> Touchpad steering
[09:47:59] <crutchy> and only one button
[09:48:05] <crutchy> in the whole car :p
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[09:48:16] <chromas> If we have to. One too many
[09:48:29] <crutchy> the 'ask siri' button
[09:48:49] <chromas> iCruise
[09:48:51] <crutchy> s/s/c/2/
[09:48:54] <crutchy> s/s/c/2
[09:48:54] <sedctl> <crutchy> s/c/c/2/
[09:49:03] <crutchy> derp
[09:49:05] <chromas> iCruise 5Gs
[09:49:17] <Gravis> "Siri where are you taking me?" "To lunch." "Stop using Apple Maps, you are about to drive off a bridge!"
[09:49:37] <crutchy> what's for lunch... seafood
[09:49:49] <crutchy> ultra fresh
[09:50:11] <chromas> Mmm. Sea salt. Hipsterish
[09:50:58] <crutchy> mmmm. i must be a hipster then cos i lurve sea salt :D
[09:51:11] <crutchy> with fresh fish poop
[09:51:52] <crutchy> i gotta go watch a movie with the wifey
[09:52:05] <chromas> "But that's what rich people eat, the garbage parts of the food"
[09:52:07] <crutchy> the whole valentine's day thing
[09:52:13] <chromas> See ya
[09:52:20] <crutchy> back laters
[09:54:54] <crutchy> yay got my query to work :D
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[10:31:22] <chromas> From the both-of-these-submitters-are-the-ones-most-bitched-about dept
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[12:16:23] <crutchy> coffee++
[12:16:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1067
[12:16:23] <crutchy> ++coffee
[12:16:24] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 264
[12:16:47] <crutchy> "fury" is a movie about brad pitt, with some kind of ww2 back story
[12:33:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:33:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1068
[12:34:15] <ar> coffee--
[12:34:15] <Bender> karma - tea: 401
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[14:56:02] <janrinok> hi guys
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[15:08:34] <girlpluggedout> 'ello 'ello 'ello.
[15:08:41] <janrinok> hi girlpluggedout
[15:08:42] <ciri> hello, whats up janrinok
[15:08:55] <janrinok> How's things with you?
[15:09:17] <girlpluggedout> Things are... different.
[15:09:22] <girlpluggedout> But good :)
[15:09:30] <girlpluggedout> It's been a hell of a long time.
[15:09:57] <girlpluggedout> And with you guys?
[15:10:01] <janrinok> it has indeed - I've noticed you were back commenting on stories. I hope that you are well.
[15:10:38] <janrinok> Much the same at this end. A bit older, no wiser, but still enjoying life so no complaints here.
[15:16:06] <janrinok> girlpluggedout: There are a few of the same editors around and the rest of the team comprises of many old faces and some new ones. I over-did things a few months back and then had to take a breather for medical reasons, but I'm back now as you can see.
[15:17:51] <girlpluggedout> Llife has this tendency to catch up with you no matter how optimistic you may be. As they say in Yiddish, der mentsh tracht un Got lacht. Man plans and God laughs.
[15:21:46] <girlpluggedout> I hope you've recovered and are back in good health, janrinok.
[15:22:02] <janrinok> True - I like that quotation, and I understood it in both languages so that was a bonus! ;)
[15:22:10] <girlpluggedout> :)
[15:22:37] <janrinok> I'm better but I have to manage my time better now - thanks for asking.
[15:22:57] <girlpluggedout> Sprechen Sie ein bisschen Deutsch?
[15:23:48] <janrinok> Ja naturlicht, I lived in Germany on two previous occasions for about 4 years in total.
[15:24:26] <janrinok> I should have used an umlaut there but couldn't be bothered :)
[15:24:38] <girlpluggedout> Ah, I did not know that. Just to make sure, you're a Brit living in France, ne pas?
[15:24:55] <janrinok> Oui, c'est ca
[15:27:10] <girlpluggedout> If god wanted me to trype umlauts, esszets, and such while on IRC, he should have made it more convient to switch between keyboard layouts I hardly ever use.
[15:28:02] <janrinok> exactly - I don't like tryping either :o
[15:29:33] <girlpluggedout> My typing is a bit off because my right hand fingers are -- quite inexplicably and frankly somewhat worrying -- very stiff and stuck in a bent position and hurting like a mother. Yay!
[15:29:59] <janrinok> Ah, I'm just a crap typist....
[15:30:29] <janrinok> Sry to hear of the your problem though
[15:30:43] <girlpluggedout> 'Sokay.
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[18:27:02] <paulej72> quite this morning
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[18:30:53] <janrinok> hi paulej72
[18:30:53] <ciri> hello, nice to see yea! janrinok
[18:31:01] <paulej72> hellow
[18:31:24] <janrinok> how's things?
[18:39:40] <paulej72> not bad doing site admin things today
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[21:18:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh, ran out of desire to buy fishing stuff before i ran out of money.
[21:18:37] <SirFinkus> that sounds like a good thing
[21:19:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, means i got lotsa stuff and still have a couple hundred left for when i lose a lure or such.
[21:20:18] <SirFinkus> you going out this weekend?
[21:20:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly not. wicked tired today and tomorrow's sposed to be balls freezin cold
[21:21:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> also the fishing's not sposed to be that great tomorrow
[21:23:00] <SirFinkus> been unseasonably warm here
[21:23:10] <SirFinkus> got up to 17 yesterday
[21:24:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, it's pretty toasty here today too
[21:24:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[21:24:35] <exec> 03Stratford, OK, USA - currently 76°F, clear, wind W at 12 mph, humidity 26% - Saturday clear (32°F-74°F), Sunday ice pellets (25°F-45°F), Monday chance of ice (27°F-43°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (28°F-52°F)
[21:25:13] <SirFinkus> wow, impressive
[21:25:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> february, and almost 80f, gotta love some of that global warmin
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[21:59:06] <Subsentient> ~weather
[21:59:08] <exec> 03Phoenix, AZ - currently 82°F / 28°C, mostly cloudy, wind E at 7 mph, humidity 19% - Saturday partly cloudy (57°F-84°F / 14°C-29°C), Sunday partly cloudy (57°F-81°F / 14°C-27°C), Monday partly cloudy (54°F-79°F / 12°C-26°C), Tuesday clear (50°F-77°F / 10°C-25°C)
[22:13:07] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com I still get super excited when I see this
[22:31:56] <paulej72> ~weather
[22:31:58] <exec> 03Princeton, NJ, USA - currently 29°F / -2°C, haze, wind SW at 2 mph, humidity 89% - Saturday snow (10°F-39°F / -12°C-4°C), Sunday chance of snow showers (3°F-23°F / -16°C--5°C), Monday clear (9°F-23°F / -13°C--5°C), Tuesday chance of snow (19°F-32°F / -7°C-0°C)
[22:33:06] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: what was it that you wanted me to look into?
[23:03:36] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:03:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1069
[23:03:37] <crutchy> ++coffee
[23:03:37] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 265
[23:05:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why the Schadenfreude? Mainstream Media's Breathless Distaste for Android - http://sylnt.us - hipsters
[23:06:28] <crutchy> what mainstream media has distaste for android?
[23:07:50] <nick> i think one of the comments on the story is right
[23:08:06] <nick> "Media has historically been fans of Apple long before they became 'mainstream'. They used Macs for word processing, they use Macs for audio processing, and they used Macs for video editing. They are the original Apple fanboys and were made fun of for it for years. They now get their revenge by giving Apple hundreds of millions of dollars (at a *bare* minimum) of free advertising."
[23:10:43] <nick> but there are several reasons why apple gets far more general coverage, partly to do with their 'walled garden' making things much more easy to quantify and the apple/ios/iphone marketing has worked so well
[23:12:02] <nick> to the point that it's not unusual for non-tech general consumers to use iphone when they mean smartphone. although that is better than it was, but it still shaped the discussion when you're trying to get as many page views as possible
[23:13:07] <nick> 'a really dull apple/ios has a problem/is awesome' on a general news site will get far more views than 'android on some lg phones is awesome/shitty'
[23:14:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, nothing that i remember, sorry was having a nap.
[23:14:39] <crutchy> ~gday nick
[23:14:40] * exec allegedly pours an anvil of spew for nick
[23:14:44] <paulej72> I remember a question you asked and I said I would look into this weekend
[23:15:03] <nick> anvil of spew? o_O
[23:25:50] <SirFinkus> god, garlic is the best thing in the world
[23:34:20] <crutchy> up to working out how to layout the comments. http://news.my.to
[23:34:20] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Test story title - news.my.to
[23:39:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[23:39:47] <crutchy> left_joins++
[23:39:47] <Bender> karma - left_joins: 1
[23:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't the tor thing i don't think
[23:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> really have no idea. exhausted and brain no work.
[23:41:14] <crutchy> is there a backup spam-antimodder when you're playing house?
[23:41:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyone can but i been the one checking the db for new ones
[23:42:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyone on staff anyway
[23:42:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept maybe the wiki crew
[23:43:54] <crutchy> gotta be someone comfortable with the db though i guess
[23:44:28] <crutchy> gotta issue manual sql queries to undo, yeah?
[23:44:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads no, i made handy dandy links beside the score of any spam modded comment
[23:45:03] <crutchy> ah
[23:45:07] <crutchy> TheMightyBuzzard++
[23:45:07] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 143
[23:45:44] <crutchy> yeah i think i remember that now
[23:45:56] <crutchy> need moar coffee methinks
[23:47:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, i think i could use some as well