#Soylent | Logs for 2015-02-12

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[00:04:24] <paulej72> so majic
[00:04:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, basically
[00:04:54] <paulej72> ok I a goin to food now
[00:05:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't mean you're gonna have a good day if it's good but when it shows bad, stay home.
[00:05:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
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[00:12:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stopping a Smart TV from Eavesdropping on you could be a Felony - http://sylnt.us - smooth-criminal
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[00:42:43] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[00:47:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin
[00:51:36] <BadCoderFinger> Hey TMB, how are you?
[00:52:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> outstanding. won a gift card from bass pro today that'll just about cover my home owners insurance deductible on my fishing poles. karma ftw.
[00:53:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> cackled my fool head off when i opened it up n saw what it was.
[00:54:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk doin dishes now
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[01:27:04] <SirFinkus> "doin dishes"
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[01:49:24] <crutchy> bugger. disabled :/
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[02:05:58] <crutchy> coffee++
[02:05:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1055
[02:06:03] <crutchy> ++coffee
[02:06:03] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 261
[02:06:15] <crutchy> ~queue
[02:06:54] <crutchy> i guess no queue message on the SN homepage
[02:07:37] <crutchy> ~suggest-exec if there's no queue message on ~queue, say something to that effect
[02:07:51] <exec> *** suggestion successfully added to wiki - http://sylnt.us
[02:14:24] <SpallsHurgenson> so today a friend and I decide, bugger it all, we're gonna go on a one-day holiday. We make the usual excuses and lies in order to escape the daily grind and responsibility and off we go (this is something I do occassionally when I need an escape)
[02:14:37] <SpallsHurgenson> I decide - more or less on the spur of the moment - that I need to revist a place I haven't seen in decades and decades; a ski-resort I used to go to with my family when I was just a young lad.
[02:15:15] <SpallsHurgenson> After making the necessary checks to determine that, yes, it still exists and getting the correct address, we hit the road. I plug the address into the GPS and follow its directions onto the highways.
[02:15:42] <SpallsHurgenson> The trip - once we get past the urban blight - is fast and gorgeous. It seems the mountains are growing all around us, the unblemished whiteness of fresh snow is everywhere, and the only sign of Man is the occassional farm nestled on the side of the deep valleys.
[02:16:25] <SpallsHurgenson> Three hours later, we are zipping around the serpentine roads leading up to the ski slopes. The air is still and crisp; it's a beautiful day with a deep blue sky. Even though I haven't been up here in more years than I can remember, I recognize buildings and landmarks that have survived unchanged despite the passing of many decades.
[02:16:50] <SpallsHurgenson> Finally we get to the ski resort, bundle ourselves up with hats and gloves, and pop out of the car. It is perfectly quiet; there is no noise. I'm not kidding; the silence is so deep I can actually hear snow melting.
[02:17:36] <SpallsHurgenson> We stomp up to the lodge. I'm very excited by now; I smell wood smoke burning from the fireplace; it smells exactly like I remember from when I was a kid, and it looks exactly the same too.
[02:18:16] <SpallsHurgenson> And that's when I realize my crucial mistake. The place is closed. I made sure the resort was still in business, but forgot to check that they were actually open today. Oops.
[02:19:41] <BadCoderFinger> Natch!
[02:20:41] <SpallsHurgenson> still, it was a lot of fun just to see the old place again. Less fun was the realization that NOTHING was open for business up there, so it wasn't until we got home that we could find anyplace we could find a bite to eat.
[02:24:48] <BadCoderFinger> Hungry trip, then.
[02:31:31] <SpallsHurgenson> not quite the result I expected, but still fun
[02:32:23] <SpallsHurgenson> got some nice pictures of the place too :)
[02:32:53] <BadCoderFinger> It wasn't a wasted trip, that's good.
[02:33:03] <BadCoderFinger> And a bit of fresh air probably didn't hurt.
[02:33:43] <SpallsHurgenson> a bit of fresh air... and a lot of heated car air :)
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[02:44:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Two Big Bangs - http://sylnt.us - over-a-single-forehead
[02:51:37] <SpallsHurgenson> http://videosift.com
[02:51:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Ford Model T: How to Drive The Car That Moved The World
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[03:14:14] <SpallsHurgenson> what's wrong with cyber magicians? some of my best friends are cybe magicians. I think drgibbon is an anti-cyber-magicianite!
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[03:44:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Samsung Allegedly Inserts Ads into Locally-Stored/Played Movies - http://sylnt.us - Pepsi-Pepsi-Pepsi-No-Coke
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[05:15:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Drillers Take Second Crack at Fracking Old Wells to Cut Costs - http://sylnt.us - wise-crack
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[05:51:27] <arti> spalls, i just recently did a day off with a friend, went hiking
[05:51:36] <arti> that's too funny about the misfire
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[06:16:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Firefox To Mandate Code-Signing for Add-Ons - http://sylnt.us - sign-of-the-future
[06:19:46] <crutchy> has freenode crapped itself?
[06:20:45] <crutchy> there we go. i connected 3 times to freenode servers that weren't connected to anything else
[06:20:55] <crutchy> maybe that's normal :/
[06:23:18] <SirFinkus> magicians deserve to be cybered too
[06:23:39] <SirFinkus> and I was scrolled up
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[07:47:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SoylentNews is One Year Old! - http://sylnt.us - Happy-Birthday-To-SN!
[08:11:55] <arti> http://imgur.com
[08:11:55] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03programming - Imgur
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[08:39:42] <SirFinkus> oh, poutine is back
[08:40:36] <SirFinkus> was he the 500TB ddos guy, or am I thinking of someone else?
[08:46:54] <arti> yay happy bday soylent
[08:52:45] <crutchy> SirFinkus, that was Khyber
[08:52:51] <SirFinkus> ahh
[08:52:59] <crutchy> ~find-last 400TB
[08:54:31] <SirFinkus> oh shit, was it 400?
[08:54:39] <SirFinkus> christ, I'm bad at soylent history
[08:54:44] <exec> last privmsg containing "400TB" in #soylent: [2014-12-10 06:53:13] <crutchy> are you planning on infecting SN with 400TB of mad cow disease?
[08:55:05] <SirFinkus> ~find-first 400TB
[08:55:53] <chromas> could use a throbber right now
[08:55:57] <chromas> or a progress bar
[08:56:24] <exec> first privmsg containing "400TB" in #soylent: [2014-03-08 01:13:43] <Khyber> how the fuck else you think I'm getting 400TB/s?
[08:56:50] <SirFinkus> hehe
[08:57:02] <SirFinkus> I was worried I guess incorrectly
[08:57:07] <SirFinkus> guessed even
[08:57:28] <SirFinkus> the bot is slow!
[08:57:51] <crutchy> its php and it had to download a fair bit of logs then
[08:58:12] <crutchy> parses loggie's logs.sylnt.us pages
[08:58:19] <crutchy> very inefficiently
[08:58:42] <crutchy> eventually will replace with a pascal binary
[08:59:02] <chromas> or toss the logs into yoursql
[08:59:06] <crutchy> the log parsing bit, not the whole bot :p
[08:59:14] <crutchy> could do that yeah
[08:59:26] <crutchy> now that i finally put mysqueal on my lappy
[08:59:26] <SirFinkus> that seems like it'd be a fun project to speed up, I wonder how effective my entirely naive algorithm would be
[08:59:32] <SirFinkus> never done that kind of thing before
[08:59:43] <crutchy> string parsing is great fun
[09:00:24] <crutchy> unless you're an awk guy, in which case it wouldn't be much fun cos you'd be done in 2 commands :p
[09:00:33] <SirFinkus> my idea would be to keep a list of unique words said in the channel, then keep track of the lines each word is said in
[09:00:43] <SirFinkus> there's probably a better way to do it though
[09:00:48] <SirFinkus> it's clearly a solved problem
[09:00:58] <SirFinkus> google does it instantly
[09:01:51] <chromas> ooh, a tree index
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[09:02:00] <crutchy> my slow piece of crap caches everything except today in files containing serialized strings, and when a command is run it downloads whatever is missing (sometimes days of logs if it hasn't been run for a while)
[09:02:26] <crutchy> and then loops through every line till it gets a hit
[09:02:33] <SirFinkus> that what that's called chromas?
[09:02:36] <crutchy> no indexing whatsoever
[09:02:47] <crutchy> binary tree?
[09:02:53] <chromas> not necessarily, but it's a way you /could /do it
[09:03:10] <crutchy> mysql prolly easiest for me actually
[09:03:14] <crutchy> dammit
[09:03:16] <crutchy> :p
[09:03:33] <SirFinkus> I'm sure it's the text search equivilant of bubble sort
[09:04:44] * SirFinkus might try implementing something like that in python for fun
[09:04:59] <chromas> if you toss it into a db you can tell it to keep an index of your favorite type
[09:05:15] <SirFinkus> I'm too stupid for databases
[09:05:48] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i've resisted a database for my bot for months
[09:05:50] <SirFinkus> well, probably not, but I don't want to learn that right now
[09:05:57] <SirFinkus> text files!
[09:06:04] <crutchy> yup :D
[09:06:05] <SirFinkus> one line per word
[09:06:35] <SirFinkus> followed by a space, then the line numbers separated by a space
[09:07:06] <SirFinkus> index the previous logs, then have the bot keep track and update the text file as it reads chat
[09:07:36] <SirFinkus> if it dc's, ping the logs for the quit message and update the file based on them until the bot rejoins
[09:08:05] <chromas> I'm already logging to db; why aren't I leveraging that somehow?
[09:08:19] <chromas> do it
[09:08:29] <chromas> assuming you've got the time
[09:08:37] <SirFinkus> crutchy needs a database, but doesn't have one, chromas has one, but doesn't need it
[09:08:41] <chromas> and bring in your own bot :)
[09:08:54] <SirFinkus> "you got database in my code" "you got code in my database"
[09:09:02] <chromas> I could set up a script for exec to query
[09:09:20] <crutchy> unfortunately i have one now, so i'll prolly be lazy and use it :/
[09:09:22] <SirFinkus> oh shit, some kind of fucktarded irc bot api
[09:09:43] <chromas> I was thinking of a web page, but that's even better!
[09:09:47] <SirFinkus> communicating over queries
[09:09:58] <crutchy> why use an api when you can just program directly in IRC :D
[09:10:03] <chromas> you send a command to exec, exec sends a command to Hedonismbot, which replies to exec…
[09:10:16] <SirFinkus> with onion routing!
[09:10:18] <crutchy> we did that with the soylent site alert
[09:10:31] <crutchy> sort of
[09:10:40] <SirFinkus> all you need now is DHT
[09:10:45] <chromas> dht++
[09:10:45] <Bender> karma - dht: 1
[09:10:52] <crutchy> ~define dht
[09:10:56] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3DHT: Dry Heat Tho, refers to when people say it's not too hot because its dry heat. Most frequently used in South Western United States when the temperature is 100+
[09:10:57] <chromas> we just need that and we could replace soylent with p2p
[09:10:59] <SirFinkus> DHT is neat, but holy shit, it's magic
[09:11:22] <SirFinkus> I've read like, 3 things on it and I still don't understand it
[09:11:27] <chromas> could probably just grab kad and use it
[09:11:32] <crutchy> DHT sounds a bit to kitch for me. i'm still excited about global variables
[09:11:50] * SirFinkus goes off to wikipedia again
[09:12:02] <chromas> crutchy: with a dht, they could be literally global variables
[09:12:27] <crutchy> SirFinkus, this is how my dumbot stores loggie's irc log data: http://irciv.us.to
[09:12:29] <chromas> we could all host exec's memory
[09:12:42] <crutchy> oh that would be scary... for you guys :p
[09:12:55] <crutchy> there's all kinds of madness in there
[09:13:18] <chromas> still better than those crapplications you find in the office
[09:13:35] <SirFinkus> is that some kind of standard crutchy, or did you roll that yourself?
[09:13:50] <crutchy> its php serialized arrays
[09:14:18] <crutchy> can unserialize each line into an array using the unserialize function
[09:14:28] <crutchy> standard php thingy
[09:14:39] <SirFinkus> hmm
[09:14:58] <crutchy> kinda like json, but a bit more reliable (but slower)
[09:14:59] <chromas> vlc++
[09:14:59] <Bender> karma - vlc: 5
[09:14:59] <SirFinkus> it's grockable, which is nice
[09:19:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Can you Become a Good Programmer with Self-Education? - http://sylnt.us - learn-vs-understand
[09:19:41] * SirFinkus really should program more
[09:21:03] <crutchy> make a bot. they're fun, and we can all abuse it for you :D
[09:21:31] <chromas> that question mark means I can't become good :(
[09:21:57] <chromas> bots++
[09:21:57] <Bender> karma - bots: 6
[09:22:18] <chromas> irc; bots; the social media for nerds
[09:22:28] <crutchy> hell yeah
[09:22:45] <crutchy> ~weather
[09:22:46] <exec> 03Melbourne VIC - currently 21°C, clear, wind SW at 10 km/h, humidity 75% - Thursday thunderstorm (16°C-21°C), Friday clear (21°C-33°C), Saturday chance of storm (19°C-30°C), Sunday clear (18°C-36°C) - google
[09:27:47] <SirFinkus> butts
[09:32:32] <crutchy> SirFinkus, this was what my bot looked like a little after SN started: https://github.com
[09:32:33] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/bot.php at 76a5bfa691331de2fda07c867d002ddf3c45bb10 · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub
[09:32:55] <crutchy> since then its become infested with bloat :p
[09:33:18] <crutchy> the wiki thing didn't even work
[09:35:59] <SirFinkus> well, I made this work
[09:36:01] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[09:36:36] <crutchy> sweet
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[09:37:16] <crutchy> took me ages just to get my first bot to connect properly. my first one was written in bash though, and i suck at bash
[09:37:35] <crutchy> about the same time as loggie arrived
[09:38:00] <SirFinkus> I had some stuff from another project
[09:38:36] <SirFinkus> a MUD project, I got the chat thing almost working
[09:39:43] <crutchy> mattie_p had a MUD thing that was connected to irc for a while. dunno what happened to that
[09:43:06] <SirFinkus> well, I'll poke it more tomorrow
[09:50:19] <chromas> I don't have udevd. I wonder if systemd calls it somethin else
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[10:14:40] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[10:14:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Chill Out - Beach Lounge - Schwarzwald Oase - YouTube
[10:50:12] <ar> hm
[10:50:24] <ar> on the phooto in my new passport i look like a girl
[10:59:49] <chromas> That means you can get away with stuff
[10:59:59] <chromas> Just show the officer a little leg
[11:08:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:08:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1056
[11:10:11] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:10:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1057
[11:10:11] <crutchy> ++coffee
[11:10:11] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 262
[11:11:59] <crutchy> yay
[11:12:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yay?
[11:12:22] <crutchy> got my little automated mysql database script working :)
[11:12:54] <crutchy> drops/creates a new schema, creates tables and grants privs
[11:13:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool
[11:43:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, a year old today
[11:43:57] * crutchy lets off the party poppers
[11:44:33] <crutchy> that's prolly like 10 years old in web years
[11:45:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, i was trying to think of something to give everyone for a present but we're already giving everyone mod points and if we give everyone sub time that's money we won't be able to spend on hosting.
[11:46:22] <crutchy> already got a cool website. what more can people expect :p
[11:47:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> bewbs++ ?
[11:47:43] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 39
[11:48:34] <crutchy> bacon++
[11:48:34] <Bender> karma - bacon: 290
[11:48:37] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:48:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1058
[11:48:47] <crutchy> 8008135++
[11:48:47] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 19
[11:49:32] <crutchy> pfft. tried to edit an apache vhost conf without root :/
[11:50:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Second Law of Thermodynamics is More of a Guideline than a Rule. - http://sylnt.us - disorder-is-likely-to-increase
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[11:53:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> moo?
[11:54:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i tried editing a conf file in a nonexistent directory yesterday.
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[12:01:20] <crutchy> ha. noice
[12:20:22] <crutchy> whew. db setup script ran ok on server too
[12:34:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays
[12:34:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, paulej72, our tor serving isn't and probably hasn't been since the reboots.
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[12:52:10] <crutchy> inserts/selects to/from db now :D
[12:52:12] <crutchy> http://news.my.to
[12:52:12] <Hedonismbot> ^✓ 03news.my.to
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[12:52:34] <crutchy> might call that a night i think
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[12:53:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> good on ya then
[12:53:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[12:53:17] <ciri> nite TheMightyBuzzard
[12:53:38] <crutchy> happy birthday #soylent
[12:53:46] <crutchy> ~g'night all
[12:53:47] * exec brazenly flings an anvil of boogers at all
[13:15:25] * CoolHand dodges burgers
[13:15:32] <CoolHand> ..err boogers
[13:20:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooooh, there's an idea...
[13:21:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> charge like $5 or $10 to change a nickname while keeping the same uid.
[13:21:24] <CoolHand> what finding a burger (not booger) to eat?
[13:21:46] <CoolHand> oh yea.. nice..
[13:22:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Second Law of Thermodynamics is More of a Guideline than a Rule - http://sylnt.us - disorder-is-likely-to-increase || Why We Don't Have Better Batteries, or What Went Wrong at Envia - http://sylnt.us - it-had-a-lot-of-potential
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[13:28:12] <janrinok> hi guys
[13:28:21] <CoolHand> hello janrinok
[13:28:58] <janrinok> Hi CoolHand how's things
[13:28:58] <ciri> hi i'm happy today! :D janrinok
[13:29:11] <janrinok> sod off ciri
[13:29:18] <CoolHand> fine with me..
[13:29:41] <janrinok> bright cold Winter's afternoon here
[13:30:06] <CoolHand> same here (but morning).. nice snow coming down though
[13:30:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, janrinok
[13:30:51] <janrinok> no snow here. Hi TheMightyBuzzard
[13:31:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> balls cold outside here today but no snow in the forecast till monday or so.
[13:31:44] <janrinok> lol - that cold eh? Anyway happy birthday one and all
[13:31:55] <CoolHand> happy birthday to us! :)
[13:32:18] <janrinok> It doesn't seem like a year ago!
[13:33:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i know. seems alternately like either 10 years ago or a couple months ago.
[13:33:23] <CoolHand> indeed... time compresses as we age unfortunately.. is there a name for that?
[13:33:28] <janrinok> true lol
[13:33:59] <janrinok> if there is CoolHand, I've forgotten it - which also comes with old age
[13:34:09] <CoolHand> :)
[13:34:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> CoolHand, I think it's just a matter of when our brains learn to use LZO compression
[13:34:39] <CoolHand> TheMightyBuzzard: haha, maybe... :)
[13:35:12] <janrinok> I have a conveyor-belt brain - one thing in, one thing out. But the belt is getting shorter as I age.
[13:36:23] <CoolHand> there are official studies on that time effect I see.. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
[13:36:24] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Subjective acceleration of time with aging. - PubMed - NCBI
[13:36:48] <CoolHand> http://www.everythingzoomer.com
[13:36:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03As Time Flies By: Aging and Perception of Time - Everything Zoomer
[13:36:51] <janrinok> good searching technique there....
[13:40:13] <janrinok> Several entirely possible explanations - backed up by nothing more than a gut feeling, unfortunately
[13:42:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> your brain is a fifo array and every time you drink a beer you lose a randomly selected cell
[13:44:47] <CoolHand> TheMightyBuzzard has the most unique theory..
[13:45:08] <janrinok> After some short deliberation - you could be on to something there TMB
[13:49:42] <janrinok> I'm just updating my PC-BSD ports, and it's downloading a 1.6GB file called 'texlive'. Now that is one hell of a patch!
[13:51:52] <CoolHand> janrinok: what command do you use to update the ports in PC-BSD. I'm a newbie on pcbsd and have had trouble figuring that out.. :)
[13:52:28] <janrinok> I'm probably only a few minutes ahead of you in experience terms - but I'm using 'portmaster -a'
[13:52:50] <CoolHand> k, thx
[13:54:05] <CoolHand> i haven't fully grok'ed the relationship between pkg/ports/appcafe and when using which is appropriate
[13:54:35] <CoolHand> seems more straightforward in freebsd, but then, things are harder on the desktop... :)
[13:54:54] <janrinok> neither have I - it seems like one of the rites of passage that one must achieve before OS enlightenment occurs....
[13:55:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> thus my passing on it entirely for now.
[13:55:41] <janrinok> CoolHand: whatever works for you in FreeBSD will work equally well on PC-BSD of course
[13:55:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't have the brainpower to spare
[13:56:34] <CoolHand> janrinok: maybe.. I'm not fully convinced of that.. seen some conflicting statements around.. one day I'll figure it all out though.. :)
[13:56:47] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: I've been looking at it for a while now but not continuously. Yesterday's thread has spurred me into another bout of experimentation
[14:00:15] <janrinok> Talking of aging, memory and brain power. I find that I spend a lot more time nowadays looking up APIs etc than I used to do. My programming has slowed quite a bit in the last 12 months or so.
[14:01:07] <janrinok> 97% of 1.6Gb downloaded - the excitement is mounting in janrinok-land
[14:01:22] <CoolHand> lol
[14:01:22] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[14:01:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i always had to. i never bother committing to memory anything that's not going to be used regularly.
[14:01:55] <janrinok> daytime broadband speeds are not up to much here in rural NW France
[14:02:37] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: Ture, but it seems that things that used to just flow from my keyboard now involve a page flicking session too.
[14:05:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, give me a few months not using it and i'll forget whether i need to use push, pop, shift, or unshift
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[14:17:38] <janrinok> ne of my pet hates - successive captchas that are indecipherable no matter how much you magnify them!
[14:17:52] <janrinok> one of*
[14:22:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Much Can the Resurrected Pirate Bay be Trusted? - http://sylnt.us - how-much-can-you-trust-anyone-online?
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[14:32:45] <LancePodstrong> i believe i got the norovirus
[14:33:01] <LancePodstrong> i'm getting better already, but it was a rough last 18 hours or so
[14:33:13] <LancePodstrong> my asshole is completely raw
[14:35:44] <janrinok> LancePodstrong: sry to hear that! No, no - I _am_ sorry to have heard that :)
[14:36:52] <janrinok> LancePodstrong: hope you both make a good recovery
[14:39:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> any word from lamx yet?
[14:39:45] <janrinok> not today - are you expecting him?
[14:40:13] <LancePodstrong> negative
[14:41:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> trying to get LancePodstrong here editored up, yeah
[14:41:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> no replies to emails though
[14:41:22] <janrinok> I don't think he is around yet because no-one is doing the 2nd ed on the stories in the queue.
[14:41:39] <janrinok> LancePodstrong: have you done the training bit yet?
[14:42:45] <LancePodstrong> no
[14:43:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, looks like we'll have to go through mrcoolbp
[14:43:17] <janrinok> so you are still waiting to be given access, or waiting to begin training?
[14:43:35] <LancePodstrong> both?
[14:44:10] <janrinok> OK, well I can't authorise the access bit but, once you have it, I have plenty of time to start the training with you if you wish.
[14:44:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that i can do for dev at least. not technically sposed to but lacking anyone around who can...
[14:45:15] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: I thought you didn't want to be an admin...? :)
[14:45:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't but i'll do it when nobody is around
[14:45:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> for extended periods
[14:45:54] <janrinok> lol
[14:46:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> LancePodstrong, go over to dev.soylentnews.org and create you an edity account n gimme the name
[14:47:19] <LancePodstrong> is there any reason to pick a name different than LancePodstrong ?
[14:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> entirely up to you
[14:47:29] <janrinok> nope
[14:48:06] <LancePodstrong> k its made
[14:48:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> seclev 100 for editors i believe
[14:48:46] <janrinok> you speak a foreign tongue for mere editors
[14:52:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> LancePodstrong, okay, you're a dev editor. bug the snot out of mrcoolbp on here for other access like a +v and email and such
[14:52:43] <janrinok> 'bug the snot' - I do fear that mastery of the mother tongue is not what it once was.
[14:53:18] <LancePodstrong> :)
[14:53:25] <LancePodstrong> okee dokee
[14:53:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> part of the peace treaty for the war of 1812 says we get to abuse it however we like. specifically including pronouncing our Hs.
[14:53:36] <LancePodstrong> and our Rs
[14:53:41] <janrinok> lol
[14:53:42] <ciri> lol damn!
[14:53:44] <LancePodstrong> unless you're from new yawk
[14:54:08] <LancePodstrong> i bet byrtram doesn't say his Rs in boston either
[14:54:11] <janrinok> enough - you heathens!
[14:54:13] <LancePodstrong> drinks glasses of weeda
[14:54:16] <LancePodstrong> er, wooda
[14:54:33] <janrinok> LancePodstrong: have you seen/read/heard of the editors' guide from the wiki?
[14:54:40] <LancePodstrong> nope
[14:54:44] <janrinok> hang on
[14:55:23] <LancePodstrong> i think i found it
[14:55:28] <LancePodstrong> story style?
[14:56:01] <janrinok> make a bookmark to http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[14:56:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Editing Process
[14:56:23] <LancePodstrong> k
[14:57:08] <janrinok> Basically, although it will seem like gibberish at first, that describes _one_ way of editing stories and preparing them for release.
[14:57:50] <janrinok> But we had better switch to #editorial rather than choke up this channel with what follows.
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[15:16:59] <mechanicjay> Not sure who reported it, but the SN .onion is working again.
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[15:54:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX and US Air Force Settle Spy Sat Dispute - http://sylnt.us - to-LEO-and-beyond!
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[17:15:15] <LancePodstrong> anyone here have experience with time domain reflectometers? my stepdad needs to buy one
[17:16:56] <CoolHand> nope.. sounds like something from Dr. Who... :)
[17:23:09] <LancePodstrong> http://arstechnica.com
[17:23:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Law & Order SVU takes on GamerGate, everyone loses | Ars Technica
[17:25:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Suspected 3D-Printed Gun Parts and Plastic Knuckles Seized in Australia - http://sylnt.us - Darwin-award-material?
[17:29:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, saw them all live-tweeting it last night. apparently the main bad guy was a whitewashed version of _RogueStar_.
[17:29:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> they thought it was hilarious.
[17:30:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> nap time now
[17:30:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[17:30:33] <Bender> karma - naps: 17
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[18:02:54] <ar> https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:02:55] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Darwin Day
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[18:20:07] <arti> darwin day, is this where people do exceptionally stupid things to receive darwin awards?
[18:20:31] <arti> s/exceptionally/profoundly/
[18:20:31] <sedctl> <arti> darwin day, is this where people do profoundly stupid things to receive darwin awards?
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[18:30:52] * CoolHand realizes he's been unwittingly celebrating darwin day..
[18:34:11] <GirlPluggedBackOut> All things considered, prison wasn't so bad.
[18:34:19] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Well, that didn't really happen, but it could have made a nifty explanation of my whereabouts for the last 11 months.
[18:34:38] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Hi, y'all!
[18:35:25] <mechanicjay> Hey GirlPluggedBackOut!
[18:36:18] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Howdy!
[18:45:46] <mechanicjay> Been up to anything interested, besides not prison?
[18:56:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BBC's Audio Factory Goes Live; Windows Media Excluded - http://sylnt.us - unpopular-and-expensive-file-format
[18:57:21] <arti> GirlPluggedBackOut: really?
[18:57:35] <arti> welcome back btw, wondered wtf happened to you.
[19:00:30] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Well, I had to join a gang in not-prison, but all these tats area becoming a real hassle.
[19:01:00] <arti> are they not-prison tats?
[19:01:07] * arti dat line work
[19:01:25] <arti> is it true you have to fight on your first day?
[19:01:38] <arti> i've heard good things about the food
[19:01:52] <mechanicjay> Either that or get Plugged Out Back.
[19:01:58] * arti has an urge to watch i love you phillip morris
[19:03:39] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Yeah, not-prison tats. Pen ink and sharpened plastic and whatnot.
[19:04:04] <arti> cheese grater
[19:04:32] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Why does the SN irc client insist on being stuck on my last message.
[19:04:37] <GirlPluggedBackOut> ??
[19:04:46] <arti> maybe it's just stuck on you :D
[19:04:51] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Damn it, it's not scrolling
[19:04:59] <arti> xchat?
[19:05:07] <arti> trillian mayhaps
[19:05:18] <arti> there's probably some other webclient stuff out there
[19:05:31] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Yeah, gonna install xchat.
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[19:13:12] <GirlPluggedBackOut> So on Windows 8, xchat handles transparency by ignoring windows that are backgrounded behind it and skipping straight to the desktop background image. What a useful feature!
[19:15:01] <CoolHand> irc is the only useful thing there is, so why not? :)
[19:16:59] <mechanicjay> Holy fuck, this shouldn't be so hard.
[19:17:30] <mechanicjay> posix ACLs on a zfs volume exported over nfs.
[19:17:45] <mechanicjay> Can't we all just get along?
[19:17:50] <Cyprus> ive got that except for nfs
[19:18:30] <mechanicjay> yeah the first bit seems fairly straight forward. It turns out that NFSv4 is all like, "Yeah POSIX ACLS....ours are better, but they don't really translate well."
[19:18:36] <Cyprus> getting gluster integrated is my current project that will never complete
[19:18:55] <Cyprus> i thought they specifically rigged a superset translator
[19:19:09] <Cyprus> if you're talking about ZoL
[19:19:57] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Yes, irc is certainly the best use of my time.
[19:20:06] <ar> i use ZoL. it works
[19:20:13] <mechanicjay> Not sure, I'm still trying to untangle the web of documentation and references to come to some sort of conclusion on this.
[19:20:28] <ar> but i'm pretty sure ZoL doesn't support posix ACL
[19:20:34] <Cyprus> yeah it does
[19:20:40] <mechanicjay> ZoL does work, we've managing hundred of TB of data over a dozens of volumes.
[19:21:13] <mechanicjay> ZoL does support, but you need enable a couple options on the Filesystem: attr=sa, acltype=posixacl, aclinherit=?
[19:21:14] <Cyprus> ive got it integrated at home over samba, windows can't even tell its glorius
[19:21:20] <ar> (but there's a bug in the most recent ZoL version with destroying clones of volumes
[19:21:40] <ar> https://github.com
[19:21:40] <Cyprus> that's hardly "doesn't support"
[19:21:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03NULL pointer while trying to destroy a cloned filesystem. · Issue #3019 · zfsonlinux/zfs · GitHub
[19:21:53] <mechanicjay> Apparently permissions for a samba export just sort of work.
[19:22:20] <paulej72> mechanicjay, see your problem is nfs4. you should be using the tried and true nfs3 :)
[19:22:22] <Cyprus> there is a bit of manipulation to make windows see them natually, but yeah pretty much
[19:24:31] <mechanicjay> paulej72: I'm so on the fence about 3 vs 4. I figured by now the v4 issues would be ironed out.
[19:25:27] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[19:25:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03He chose... poorly - YouTube
[19:26:58] <mechanicjay> indeed, I didn't set it up, just trying to solve a problem for some folks and getting no where fast.
[19:27:08] <paulej72> It seemed like V4 was so much harder to set up that I decided to just keep using v3
[19:27:45] <mechanicjay> paulej72: I think a lot of folks are still in that boat even what 5+ years later, which really says something.
[19:28:48] <LancePodstrong> yep
[19:29:49] <Cyprus> i don't think I've ever had a good experience with nfs
[19:30:13] <Cyprus> when it was used as some kind of permanent infrastructure
[19:31:19] <mechanicjay> You know, when setup well it's fine. I've used in limited application for webfarms, and it end up being a damn site more stable than glusterfs or the like for shared webroots. It can be slow, but that can be mitigated.
[19:32:05] <paulej72> noatime nodiratime
[19:32:21] <mechanicjay> Here, there are a metric fuck-ton of nfs volumes shared and auto mounted all over the place. So any small change in one place is likely to screw something somewhere else.
[19:33:12] <arti> much like untangling christmas lights
[19:33:15] <paulej72> I love cross mounted NFS volumes on servers. makes it fun when you try to reboot two without umount first
[19:33:31] <mechanicjay> paulej72: I did some pretty serious bench testing on this about 2 years ago. I found that under a heavy load, the round trip over the network for resources added a 200-300ms delay over local storage.
[19:33:59] <paulej72> ouch
[19:34:20] <LancePodstrong> wow
[19:34:37] <mechanicjay> Of course that was in the particular environment I was working in, YMMV
[19:36:45] <mechanicjay> I really wanted bind the mounts and the server to different interfaces to see if that helped, but ended up going a different route. Read only data was local (held in a repo and deployed), user generated content was on an NFS share. That worked out pretty well.
[19:37:05] <mechanicjay> Add a good dose front-end caching and it was a total non-issue.
[19:40:16] <Cyprus> ive done it for shared web roots
[19:40:26] <Cyprus> and always ran into horrible performance issues which never went away
[19:42:12] <Cyprus> yeah write was horrible, and the solutions were some kind of trade off that was less horrible
[19:42:55] <Cyprus> i never did find a good "filesystem" solution that I liked
[19:43:09] <Cyprus> and now i only get to play with that stuff at home
[19:57:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Iranians Learn from Being Cyberattacked, NSA Claims - http://sylnt.us - can't-put-the-lid-back-on-Pandora's-Box
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[20:18:57] <CoolHand> would glusterfs help out there instead of NFS?
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[20:52:14] <crutchy> ~g'day all
[20:52:15] * exec prematurely poops a pair of used panties full of g'day juice for all
[20:52:30] <crutchy> coffee++
[20:52:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1059
[20:52:30] <crutchy> ++coffee
[20:52:30] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 263
[20:53:13] <crutchy> tgif
[20:53:19] <crutchy> ~queue
[20:53:23] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 19 - http://sylnt.us
[20:53:32] <crutchy> ~uid
[20:53:33] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5060, owned by Zarquan
[20:55:50] <chromas> http://arstechnica.com
[20:55:50] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Pwned in 7 seconds: Hackers use Flash and IE to target Forbes visitors | Ars Technica
[20:56:36] <crutchy> IE? does that still exist?
[20:56:53] <crutchy> flash-- # the zombie that never dies
[20:56:54] <Bender> karma - flash: -3
[20:57:05] <crutchy> poutine--
[20:57:05] <Bender> karma - poutine: -382
[20:57:38] <chromas> it's almost the only non-chrome browser left
[20:57:50] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Latest IE is decent.
[20:58:14] <chromas> Needs a Linux port
[20:58:21] <GirlPluggedBackOut> I'll give it a go if the need arises. Sadly, I can't say the same about FF.
[21:00:33] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Come to think of it, in the past 2 years or so I probably used Links and Lynx more times than FF.
[21:01:48] <GirlPluggedBackOut> But, yeah, flash is dreadful.
[21:20:49] <crutchy> i hate that IE adds a frame around the client area of a page if quirks mode is enabled (which often happens with html5 doctyped pages)
[21:25:04] <crutchy> ff is getting more bloated though :(
[21:25:20] <chromas> We'll all have to switch to windows now
[21:25:30] <mechanicjay> I really dislike the UI direction FF has taken recently
[21:25:37] <chromas> firefox and systemd are taking our freeumbs
[21:26:03] <chromas> We need a firefox fork
[21:26:04] <crutchy> mechanicjay, i tried ff nightly a while ago and it had the new ui and i switched back to old iceweasel
[21:26:21] <chromas> crutchy: did it remind you of the new gedit?
[21:26:32] * crutchy cries :(
[21:26:35] <crutchy> poor gedit
[21:26:57] <crutchy> just means ima not gunna update :p
[21:27:04] <Cyprus> ive been debating moving to iceweasel
[21:27:23] <crutchy> i been using the other xfce text editor on my desktop
[21:27:33] <crutchy> forgot the name but its kinda like old gedit
[21:27:39] <mechanicjay> leafpad?
[21:27:46] <crutchy> that might be it
[21:27:56] <crutchy> or mousepad
[21:27:59] <crutchy> i think mousepad
[21:28:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - All NASA-Funded Research to be Open Access, Like the NIH - http://sylnt.us - a-good-thing
[21:28:45] <crutchy> i think i had to tweak settings a bit but its simple and fast
[21:29:25] <Cyprus> i keep going back and forth trying to decide which option i hate less
[21:29:29] <Cyprus> what firefox has become
[21:29:31] <Cyprus> or chrome
[21:35:12] <GirlPluggedBackOut> For me, it was the memory leaks and the constant breaking of shit that caused me to go cold turkey. The UI changes were always followed by an extension that re-implemented the previous version.
[21:35:43] <Cyprus> cant tell if talking about chrome or firefox... which is sadly the point
[21:37:41] <mechanicjay> At this point I just don't trust Chrome to not change something arbitrary and violate some standard just because they think their new way is better.
[21:38:41] <Cyprus> heh
[21:39:27] <GirlPluggedBackOut> FF. Chrome was never designed with leanness as its goal. The whole point of FF was to have a light-weight client that is extendable by third parties for any "non-essential" feature.
[21:39:56] <Cyprus> i wish FF still cared about what their origional point was
[21:40:17] <Cyprus> it feels like they weren't even around for the split
[21:41:28] <GirlPluggedBackOut> But not only did FF break extensions between updates, it also had (has?) a mechanism that checked the stated compatibility of each extension and flat out disables, so you needed yet another extension to edit the compability numbers.
[21:42:17] <Cyprus> the one benifit of the rediculous release schedule they adopted is the removal of number checks in favor of actual assesment of breakage
[21:42:33] <Cyprus> at least thats my understanding of why it stopped doing that
[21:42:58] <GirlPluggedBackOut> That is, even if the functionality stayed the same and the extension worked the same, FF disabled it since the developer foolishly didn't anticipate major version number changes.
[21:43:35] <Cyprus> yeah i knew what you meant
[21:43:45] <Cyprus> that used to drive me crazy too
[21:43:48] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Cyprus, that's good to know. At least there's an upside to FF's zaniness.
[21:44:00] <Cyprus> till they started changing major version every relase "because chrome"
[21:44:22] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Exactly!
[21:44:52] <Cyprus> don't get me wrong, i can't stand their devel model of "its all just master, suck it"
[21:47:46] <GirlPluggedBackOut> And I used dozens -- no exageration -- of extensions. But those jerks didn't offer the option to only install security updates. Going online with an unpatched browser is like having sex with a series of strangers with no condom.
[21:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab GirlPluggedBackOut
[21:54:34] <Bender> Added quote 379
[21:55:10] <Cyprus> yeah thats what i meant by everything is in master
[21:55:21] <Cyprus> no branches, just head, deal with it
[21:55:26] <GirlPluggedBackOut> But, on an SN-related matter: I posted in a discussion yet I still see the moderation popup and button. I thought the former excluded the latter.
[21:55:28] <Cyprus> i hate that philosophy
[21:55:48] <Cyprus> the whole "im completely redoing the UI because i know better than you so shut up"
[21:56:29] <chromas> GirlPluggedBackOut: not anymore
[21:56:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, post n mod anything but your own comments now.
[21:57:24] <GirlPluggedBackOut> I wouldn't mind a single trunk model that rendered each previous major version obsolete, as long as they offered security patches for 'em.
[21:58:00] <GirlPluggedBackOut> TheMightyBuzzard, then you needs to updated the right side-bar ("You can't moderate after posting in the same discussion").
[21:58:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> GirlPluggedBackOut, this is truth. but i'm on vacation so it can just stay wrong until i get back.
[21:59:40] <GirlPluggedBackOut> OH NOES
[22:00:47] <Cyprus> lol
[22:00:47] <ciri> lol damn!
[22:00:53] * Cyprus throws a rock at ciri
[22:01:59] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Why, this is ripe for abuse! Some unscrupulous person such as myself could take advantage of this situation.
[22:02:38] <GirlPluggedBackOut> <sinister rubbing of hands/>
[22:02:50] <Cyprus> how exactly does this grant an exploit?
[22:02:50] <ciri> doing great here
[22:02:56] <Cyprus> shut up ciri
[22:04:29] <GirlPluggedBackOut> I can downmod people who disagree with me. By the time they'll catch it in meta-moderation I'll be in a different city.
[22:05:36] <GirlPluggedBackOut> And all done sockpuppet-free.
[22:05:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> is no meta-moderation yet
[22:06:20] <Cyprus> i thought the only thing broken is the documentation, isn't that intended?
[22:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> just everyone and their dog getting mod points in the theory that they'll self-police
[22:06:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, documentation that isn't out of date isn't proper documentation.
[22:06:54] <Cyprus> I to like to ignore history and repeat the mistakes of others =)
[22:13:15] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Damn, I could have sworn I saw meta-moderation mentioned on SN.
[22:14:34] <GirlPluggedBackOut> I'd like to imagine nicer things than a more robust moderation system.
[22:15:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> me too but most of em involve naked people. no sense wasting a perfectly good imagination on anything else.
[22:17:47] <GirlPluggedBackOut> By "nicer" I meant "nekkid".
[22:20:13] <Cyprus> why cant we have both?
[22:23:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause it's cold where i am for starters. pants unfortunately gotta happen.
[22:24:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse the long mental ping times. having fun ripping on SJWs.
[22:25:38] <Cyprus> cold != require pants
[22:25:53] <GirlPluggedBackOut> This is what you do on vacation, TheMightyBuzzard?
[22:26:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> that and fishing. everyone needs a hobby.
[22:26:31] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Again, time better spent on being nice.
[22:27:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, you be nice to an SWJ they'll take away every freedom you have until you're not allowed to even think differently than them.
[22:28:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus i've always liked exposing stupid people for what they are
[22:28:12] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Fishing is good. There aren't many things more relaxing that killing animals.
[22:28:50] <Cyprus> is this something along the lines of "wont someone think of the rasists?"
[22:28:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, i catch and release for the most part. i don't like fish.
[22:28:54] <Cyprus> errr racists
[22:29:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it's more about not letting them define white == racist.
[22:29:48] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Oh, I'm sorry for the typo.
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[22:30:02] <GirlPluggedBackOut> s/being nice/gettin' it on
[22:30:02] * sedctl hurls a / at GarlPleggodBeckOot!
[22:30:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> they've no desire for equality. equality means they have to get real jobs.
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[22:30:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, NCommander
[22:30:18] <NCommander> GirlPluggedBackOut, eek, I see plugged in people
[22:30:20] <NCommander> I'm alive
[22:30:22] * NCommander survived class
[22:30:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya? what flavor class?
[22:30:57] <JamesNZ> NCommander++
[22:30:57] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 55
[22:31:30] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, Emergency Medical Technical - Basic
[22:32:18] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Do not try to pull the plug, NCommander. That is impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.
[22:32:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> smooth. much more respectable than say a pole dancing class. not quite as lucrative though.
[22:33:47] <GirlPluggedBackOut> See, people say "pole dancing" when they mean "being nekkid".
[22:34:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but it's being professionally nekkid. nekkid + dollars > nekkid
[22:35:25] <GirlPluggedBackOut> And they say "dancer" when they really mean "slut".
[22:35:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but they say it with lurve
[22:37:56] <GirlPluggedBackOut> "Occupation: nekkid"
[22:39:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> must go clean coffee maker. it was still finishing making coffee when i woke up this am.
[22:42:00] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Is that one of them drip brewing contraptions?
[22:42:02] * NCommander feels tired
[22:42:04] <NCommander> bleh
[22:42:08] <NCommander> Its been one of those weeks
[22:44:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, have an espresso machine too but if you use distilled water in them they don't need cleaning.
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[22:47:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn you, gravity, you always win!
[22:48:18] <GirlPluggedBackOut> So, uh, do you keep the coffee all nice and warm by heating the pot all day long?
[22:49:30] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Or what ever it is that people do with them.
[22:49:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i just drink it before it gets cold. if i wanted burnt coffee i'd go to starbucks.
[22:50:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[22:50:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1060
[22:50:44] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Starbucks uses freshly ground coffee, right?
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[22:59:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Best Hard Drive for Audio Playback? - http://sylnt.us - the-claims-just-keep-on-coming
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[23:10:55] <chromas> My harddrive keeps the bits directional for maximum audiophilectomy
[23:15:28] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Unless you take the time to rotate your partitions, I wouldn't even bother with bit direction.
[23:17:14] <LancePodstrong> naps++
[23:17:14] <Bender> karma - naps: 18
[23:20:19] <LancePodstrong> norovirus--
[23:20:19] <Bender> karma - norovirus: -1
[23:20:22] <LancePodstrong> cannabis++
[23:20:22] <Bender> karma - cannabis: 9
[23:20:57] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Over time, any partition accumlates stray bits. The number of stray bits increases the farther away the partition is from the center of the drive. So you need to periodically replace your central partitions with the peripheral ones.
[23:21:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[23:21:13] <Bender> karma - naps: 19
[23:24:06] <GirlPluggedBackOut> This is why the same lossless recording sounds luminous and exact when stored in a central partition but murkier yet richer when stored in a peripheral one.
[23:27:06] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Ask any self respecting audiophile. They all agree that it doesn't matter if you use MP3 or FLAC if you don't rotate partitions. Lossless formats lose no bits in the conversion process, but once they are saved on a hard drive the gain bits.
[23:28:20] <GirlPluggedBackOut> I think I just came up with a great way to make money. Rebrand a partition manager and sell it to audiophiles for a ludicrous sum.
[23:30:33] <SirFinkus> well, somebody has already come close
[23:30:35] <SirFinkus> http://www.enjoythemusic.com
[23:30:36] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Listening To Storage Listening tests reveal significant sound quality differences between various digital music storage technologies. Article By Andrew Harrison and Stephen N. Harris
[23:36:22] <SirFinkus> holy shit, someone posted that
[23:36:32] <SirFinkus> god I'm stupid
[23:38:06] <mechanicjay> I'm almost crying with tears of laughter at the amount of BS spewed in that article
[23:38:16] <mechanicjay> thank you SirFinkus
[23:38:43] <SirFinkus> it's a story on soylent, I just came back, saw something about audiophile shit and posted it in irc without reading scrollback
[23:38:50] <SirFinkus> happened to be the same article
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[23:40:04] <mechanicjay> lol, it's okay, I neglected to RTFA on SN.
[23:40:39] <SirFinkus> I neglected to RTFFP on SN
[23:40:49] <SirFinkus> so you're beating me
[23:50:27] <mechanicjay> What I really want to know is how they can possibly fucking quantify something sounding 30% better.
[23:51:29] <LancePodstrong> https://www.youtube.com
[23:51:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Is Your Son a Computer Hacker? - YouTube
[23:51:32] <LancePodstrong> oops
[23:51:33] <LancePodstrong> wrong link
[23:51:40] <LancePodstrong> Using Cat6 as the reference, reversion to Cat5e dropped sound quality by around 20 per cent - jaw dropping in view of the trivial cost involved, especially when compared with the price of the whole audio system.
[23:54:02] <mechanicjay> unbelievable BS!
[23:54:06] <chromas> firefox-- # for still requiring restarts for extensions
[23:54:06] <Bender> karma - firefox: -3
[23:55:15] <LancePodstrong> diablo time yay
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[23:55:20] <GirlPluggedBackOut> The pigments used in the coating of the wires used to form each twisted pair has been shown to affect the temperament and fidelty of even the best recordings.
[23:55:46] <SirFinkus> I really need to get in on that scam
[23:56:10] <SirFinkus> I can spout bullshit all day long, as people who've read my comments or seen my in IRC can attest
[23:56:45] <GirlPluggedBackOut> That is why I have developed a non-ISO, audiophile-grade CAT standard.
[23:57:25] <SirFinkus> I hope they're at least 2 inches thick
[23:58:22] <chromas> titanium connectors
[23:58:32] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Triple-shielded to prevent the prevalent 2.4GHz radiation in most envrionments.
[23:59:13] <GirlPluggedBackOut> Made from the highest grade of foiled tin.
[23:59:52] <SirFinkus> tin foil?
[23:59:57] <SirFinkus> use gold leaf