#Soylent | Logs for 2015-02-08

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[23:47:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Xfce 4.12 Planned For Release In A Few Weeks - http://sylnt.us - better-late-than-never
[23:42:50] <swiss> also, surprised at the speed and such on win 8.1
[23:42:38] <swiss> this shit is actually good
[23:42:34] <swiss> got an hp stream 7
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[21:37:10] <SirFinkus> it works exactly how you'd expect it to, max value of 7 hours
[21:18:48] <chromas> ha!
[21:18:11] <SirFinkus> my space heater has a binary accumulator http://i.imgur.com
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[21:16:35] <LancePodstrong> good luck with your project
[21:16:32] <LancePodstrong> i love the nieces and nephews but i have other shit to do, i hope i don't wind up stying forever
[21:15:55] <LancePodstrong> i have to go to a nephew's 4th or 5th birthday party
[21:14:16] <LancePodstrong> i like the look of it. because i'm used to staring at a console all day it's easy to read
[21:13:33] <LancePodstrong> nevermind i'm retaerded, got it
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[21:13:10] <LancePodstrong> what's the site url itself again? i missed it earlier
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[21:12:24] <chromas> the proper way to do page templates in php is to make one html page with multiple <?php?> blocks all over the place :)
[21:08:20] <crutchy> there's the code for the site so far if you're curious
[21:08:07] <crutchy> https://github.com
[21:06:14] <chromas> bye
[21:06:00] <LancePodstrong> later
[21:05:56] <crutchy> cyas later
[21:05:53] <crutchy> hehe. tonight i'll get back into it. gotta go to workipoos now :(
[21:05:28] * chromas keeps refreshing crutchy's page to see if it's changed yet :D
[21:04:38] <chromas> Need to install systemd
[21:03:42] <LancePodstrong> or like sincea long time
[21:03:41] * chromas isn't sure his last sentence really made sense
[21:03:35] <LancePodstrong> don't they all run some embedded linux these days
[21:03:30] <exec> last privmsg for hax0rz in #soylent not found
[21:02:55] <chromas> Not sure about now but in one place we had an Ambit modem that ran Linux
[21:02:40] <chromas> motorola
[21:02:25] <crutchy> ~last hax0rz
[21:02:20] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[21:02:19] <crutchy> lol
[21:02:11] <chromas> I think the idea was to turn it off when you're away because hax0rz
[21:01:59] <crutchy> or was that to shut them up when they started making all the racket
[21:01:57] <LancePodstrong> disconnect without unplugging?
[21:01:51] <LancePodstrong> i never had a modem with a sleep button O_o what for?
[21:01:48] <chromas> no, but it wasn't really useful
[21:01:29] <crutchy> cos they could be used as alarm clocks?
[21:01:13] <crutchy> i kinda assumed it was normal
[21:01:07] <chromas> I remember when cable modems used to have sleep buttons
[21:00:52] <LancePodstrong> that's nice. i had a cable connection once that was almost like that. changed once in the year we had the connection
[21:00:24] <crutchy> kept the same one for years
[21:00:14] <crutchy> mine is just the usual adsl2+, but the isp doesn't change the ip address for whatever reason
[20:59:46] <LancePodstrong> i just got static ip at home, pretty much greatest thing ever
[20:58:33] <LancePodstrong> the 4 digit number thing is a good idea crutchy, maybe be able to authenticate the post later from home ip
[20:54:53] <crutchy> cookies or email confirm it will have to be. at least until i get bruce shneier on my security team to implement passwords
[20:53:35] <crutchy> nfi how but it sounds cool
[20:53:22] <crutchy> or i could make it so that you go into irc, identify with nickserv and then the app hooks in via exec to work out if you're identified :D
[20:52:48] <chromas> To login, create a troll post on slashdot or somehwere with your matching nick
[20:52:28] <chromas> use trollauth
[20:52:16] <crutchy> so if you change your ip like you change undies you would need to enable cookies
[20:51:48] <crutchy> as long as cookies are enabled yeah that won't be a problem
[20:51:31] <chromas> but then you should already have the cookie
[20:51:20] <crutchy> hmm. yeah that would suck
[20:50:15] <chromas> it would change every time you connect to wifi at least
[20:49:41] <crutchy> not sure about my mobile though
[20:49:29] <crutchy> my ip address at home doesn't change so i'd only have to confirrm by email maybe once every 10 years
[20:48:34] <crutchy> and the hash is a once use only
[20:47:59] <chromas> true; for americans, use the ssn
[20:47:56] <crutchy> that's kinda the idea, except the hash is passed to the app by clicking a link in the confirmation email
[20:47:25] <chromas> Maybe it could take a nick and generate a key; they paste in the key like a password and that starts the session. if they lose it, fuck 'em
[20:47:18] <crutchy> that's not so bad. at least if my user db geets cracked open i don't have to worry about people having used their banking password
[20:46:19] <chromas> but now you have to track email addresses
[20:45:42] <crutchy> or you can just go AC like in slash
[20:45:08] <crutchy> or by default if you reuse a nick, until you confirm by email the app will just append a random 4 digit number to the end, so if you don't wanna confirm you don't have to
[20:45:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Powerful Cheat for Themselves, the Powerless Cheat for Others - http://sylnt.us - the-poor-are-their-brother's-cheater?
[20:43:44] <crutchy> kinda like irc
[20:43:40] <crutchy> i figured they can just use "mynick_coffee_shop" or summin
[20:43:35] <LancePodstrong> :P
[20:43:30] <LancePodstrong> if its really for nerds
[20:43:28] <chromas> or the modem reboots
[20:43:24] <LancePodstrong> although guess they could ssh into their static ip machine and tunnel
[20:43:14] <LancePodstrong> esp if user wants to access from coffee shop while travelling etcv
[20:43:02] <LancePodstrong> but i'd be worried about ips, cuz those change all the time
[20:42:35] <crutchy> me too. i just need to throw in some curly braces and it would feel homely :p
[20:42:06] <LancePodstrong> easy to read cuz i'm used to it
[20:42:02] <LancePodstrong> i like monospace
[20:41:58] <crutchy> got a little templating thing going too
[20:41:28] <crutchy> if someone changes ip if they wanna reuse nick then they gunna have to confirm by email. hopefully won't happen very often but means i don't have to worry about password bs
[20:41:13] <chromas> "Paste your pubic key"
[20:40:40] <crutchy> going to use nick, email and ip to identify, except that if people allow cookies the nick will be autofilled
[20:39:32] <chromas> It doesn't start udev or something though, so I need to figure that out. Maybe install udev. I didn't remove systemd so its udev should still be there
[20:38:43] <chromas> Took about 5 seconds to build and install
[20:38:32] <chromas> Subsentient: I noticed epoch in the arch user repo so I installed it on a laptop
[20:37:55] <chromas> it does look nice though, crutchy
[20:37:39] <chromas> squeezin' those fat Ws into a size 1
[20:37:21] <crutchy> api is definitely a high priority
[20:37:16] <chromas> weirdos
[20:37:05] <chromas> how about an ultra nerd site, where there's only an api
[20:36:58] <Subsentient> I also like monospace.
[20:36:32] <crutchy> i guess i could compromise and make tfs sans
[20:35:55] <crutchy> mwahahahaha
[20:35:48] <crutchy> i like monospace :D
[20:35:31] <chromas> except for the monospace :)
[20:35:20] <chromas> hey cool
[20:34:59] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03news.my.to
[20:34:58] <chromas> http://news.my.to
[20:34:53] <Hedonismbot> k
[20:34:52] <chromas> =del .titles.cache/http://news.my.to/
[20:34:27] <Hedonismbot> ^✓ 03hi chromas!
[20:34:27] <crutchy> http://news.my.to
[20:34:20] <crutchy> anyone wanna critique the page layout i been mucking about with for a little project i started yesterday?
[20:20:43] <SirFinkus> last night :D
[20:20:40] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
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[18:34:41] <nick> ahoy
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[18:15:17] <chromas> dept
[18:15:14] <chromas> from the samsung disses apple users as unhip in most tv ads
[18:13:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Light Entertainment: HTC Disses Samsung and Apple - http://sylnt.us - tip-top-hip-hop-flip-flop?
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[17:41:31] <Bender> karma - naps: 13
[17:41:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[17:41:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nap? why, yes, i do believe i'll have one.
[16:41:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> and sunday ain't known for its rapid news pace either.
[16:41:43] <LancePodstrong> for most everything, round these parts
[16:41:33] <LancePodstrong> february is the slowest month of the year
[16:41:17] <LancePodstrong> it's that time of year
[16:41:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> there, got a sub in. think i'll have a nap now.
[16:32:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> man it is a slooooow news day
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[16:11:38] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 25
[16:11:38] <chromas> Subsentient++
[16:11:03] <chromas> there's some dependency issues so I gave up and tried epoch, which built from source and installed in about 5 seconds
[15:58:20] <chromas> enough time to port to php!
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[15:52:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> should leave me a month or so to work on things. no telling how much i can get done in that time but i spect i can sqoosh a bug or three.
[15:48:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus we're just at the beginning of the dev cycle. wouldn't get released for another month n three quarters anyway.
[15:48:42] <chromas> than having it convert one entity to another before converting it to its symbol
[15:48:25] <chromas> plus it's less silly
[15:48:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'true
[15:48:08] <chromas> Yeah but the dev is on vacation
[15:47:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, honestly that's an easy fix. the subs are already written, just need to be put inline.
[15:41:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Fundamental Constants Behind our Universe - http://sylnt.us - fine-structure
[15:40:16] <Teckla> Pretty harmless so probably low priority
[15:39:32] <chromas> ah, then the correct fix would be to first convert the named ones to numeric…
[15:38:54] <chromas> slash could do a conversion for plaintext emails, but that's extra work
[15:38:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we resolve numeric ones but not named. wouldn't swear to it though.
[15:38:32] * Teckla nods
[15:38:22] <chromas> It implies html entities like &mdash; won't be resolved
[15:38:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp, not for us.
[15:37:59] <Teckla> Does plain text imply ASCII only?
[15:37:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that's likely an editor mistake. we're sposed to be using the actual characters instead of named entities.
[15:37:42] <Teckla> Pretty harmless though
[15:37:41] <chromas> oh yeah. I see it too; looks like the email is plaintext though
[15:36:57] <Teckla> Oops, I do see a little buggie-boo in the latest summary email: "Global Warming Causes Volcanoes &mdash; or Vice Versa"
[15:34:16] * TheMightyBuzzard shakes his head at Subsentient and his wacky mods
[15:26:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> good nuff for me
[15:26:43] <Teckla> Currently, the only non-ASCII character I see is a Euro symbol, which looks fine.
[15:26:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> emdashes would be about it i think
[15:26:10] <chromas> I think I saw some unicode quotes that looked alright
[15:25:27] <chromas> I, for one, don't see any so far
[15:24:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> unicode coming through okay in the daily emails?
[15:23:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatever blows your skirt up though i guess.
[15:23:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> wacky.
[15:22:53] <Teckla> The summary emails work great. That's mostly how I read/follow Soylent News stories.
[15:22:45] <chromas> yeah, "Daily Newsletter"
[15:22:29] <chromas> I think it's separate. There's one that's a summary of the stories or something
[15:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> can tell how much time i've spent with message delivery code
[15:21:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, it's a daily thing? huh. I thought it was per individual comment.
[15:20:41] <chromas> ciri: just like your mom
[15:20:37] <chromas> I only get the daily email but it always comes regularly
[15:19:59] <chromas> what's the issue with emails? They don't get sent?
[15:19:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely be a while. we have an issues list a mile long.
[15:18:01] <Teckla> TheMightyBuzzard: That would be awesome :)
[15:17:58] <chromas> epoch is also in the aur now
[15:17:52] <chromas> oh hey, kickass
[15:17:43] <LancePodstrong> it's always been changing but now the d irection is moving
[15:17:22] <LancePodstrong> same thing only different
[15:17:22] <Bender> karma - hipsters: -12
[15:17:22] <chromas> hipsters-- # taking over
[15:17:00] <chromas> it's different from before?
[15:16:14] <LancePodstrong> linux is in a strange state of flux these days
[15:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> one of these days we i may get around to fixing email notification of replies to your comments as well.
[15:14:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> welcome
[15:11:27] <Teckla> Whoever changed Soylent News to send emails with https links instead of http links, thank you!
[15:10:10] <chromas> I think it mostly works. It doesn't have timer units and a bunch of other stuff is removed
[15:09:43] <chromas> uselessd's been idle for a bit while a different guy got familiar with the code. he's just announced taking over it
[15:09:06] <chromas> yeah
[15:08:34] <LancePodstrong> what distro? aur is arch?
[15:07:19] <chromas> of course, it'd be better to switch to epoch :D
[15:07:05] <chromas> building uselessd from aur to see how easy it is to switch
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[14:53:04] <chromas> I tested in regex101.com and it don't match. must be this regex unit. fpos
[14:52:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> me either and i read regxs pretty well
[14:49:45] <chromas> I don't see the match though
[14:49:36] <chromas> it ignores that link because of this regex ([^\s]+(\.(?i)(aac|ac3|avi|flv|fli|mng|mp2|mp3|mp4|mpe|mpe?g)))
[14:49:04] * chromas pokes bot
[14:47:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> point is someone wasted time that could have been spent making it actually a viable replacement instead of a half-assed system that still leaves you with a lot of issues.
[14:46:26] <chromas> don't compile that part
[14:45:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> sfw? still entirely wasted lines of code.
[14:45:23] <chromas> I think it was someone else doing that part
[14:45:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuuuuuck, who gives a shit if it's ported to freebsd? what a waste of coding time.
[14:42:39] <chromas> http://www.tarnyko.net
[14:34:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> capitalism may not be a guarantee of prosperity but socialism absolutely is a guarantee of poverty.
[14:33:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like Greece is about to become a third-world country, economy-wise. when will people learn that there has NEVER been a socialist nation in history to show long-term economic prosperity?
[14:31:28] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[14:01:38] <Bytram> afk
[14:01:35] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[14:01:35] <Bytram> ROFL
[14:01:33] <Bytram> LOL!
[14:01:29] <Bytram> thanks a bunch for your time and explanation, it makes much more sense as to what is going on.
[14:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, laters
[14:01:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> hippies, democrats, republicans, etc...
[14:01:08] <Bytram> well, I just noticed the time and I needs to get me going about my day.
[14:00:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i've got plenty. users are always a good one.
[14:00:37] <Bytram> by comparison, I've got nothing to complain about.
[14:00:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> yurp
[14:00:13] <Bytram> I've met people who were on the streets in the winter and willlingly broken a store window so they'd get arrested so they could get in out of the cold and get something to eat.
[13:59:44] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:59:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can't make a slave of a man who believes himself free.
[13:59:22] <Bytram> other than that, not so bad, eh?
[13:59:13] <Bytram> and, meals might be overstating things just a bit.
[13:58:58] <Bytram> not much choice on roommates, tho.
[13:58:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> even better
[13:58:09] <Bytram> might work out to some free meals and housing!
[13:57:53] <Bytram> LOL!
[13:56:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really don't care for those. i need to write the IRS and tell them to take me off their mailing list due to lack of interest.
[13:56:12] <Bytram> ugh. 1040 reminds me of taxes
[13:56:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1041
[13:56:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:55:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> wiseass
[13:55:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1040
[13:55:56] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:55:51] <Bytram> =)
[13:55:49] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: good morning!
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[13:53:57] <TheMightyLaptop> but right, don't matter
[13:53:48] <TheMightyLaptop> i doubt we cache those particular db calls to memory
[13:53:39] <Bytram> yeah, doesn't matter, nvm
[13:53:11] <TheMightyLaptop> i really dunno about on disk vs in memory.
[13:52:44] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:52:42] <Bytram> or "If you really want to understand something, try explaining it to someone else."
[13:52:35] <TheMightyLaptop> introtext will always try to steer you wrong right now
[13:52:20] <Bytram> yeah tis easier to understand than to explain.
[13:52:06] <Bytram> got it.
[13:51:43] <Bytram> and then there is the in-memory representation of what we want in the DB, right?
[13:51:38] <TheMightyLaptop> should go like this: you go to edit a story. you fix the link down in introtext, you hit preview, you refix the link down in introtext, you hit update
[13:51:29] <Bytram> there is the stuff that is actually sitting on disk in the DB
[13:51:19] <Bytram> correction:
[13:51:01] <TheMightyLaptop> mmm...
[13:50:09] <Bytram> I click preview
[13:50:04] <Bytram> I go to edit a story. PreviewPane <-- renderPP(db) editText <-- renderET(db)
[13:49:22] <Bytram> okay. I think I got it. lemme put it back to ya
[13:48:51] <TheMightyLaptop> and it's only really gonna happen to links to our own stories
[13:47:55] <TheMightyLaptop> it's an annoying bug but not terribly confusing once you got it sorted in your head
[13:46:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:46:49] <TheMightyLaptop> when you hit update, yeah. not until then.
[13:46:37] <Bytram> and what is in the IntroText area is what gets written to the DB?
[13:46:17] <TheMightyLaptop> so you will have to refix it if it came out okay in preview
[13:46:00] <TheMightyLaptop> when you hit preview, it will bugger up what is in introtext again
[13:45:26] <TheMightyLaptop> with a caveat
[13:44:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:44:49] <TheMightyLaptop> yep
[13:44:41] <Bytram> so, what I see in the preview pane... if it looks good, then I'm good to go?
[13:44:20] <TheMightyLaptop> yar
[13:44:15] <Bytram> separate the presentation from the content
[13:44:11] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:43:26] <TheMightyLaptop> that way if we fix a bug it retroactively fixes every story ever instead of having to go back and fix them manually
[13:42:52] <TheMightyLaptop> on input to the db i mean
[13:42:31] <TheMightyLaptop> only real filtering we want done, ideally, is escaping anything that might bugger up an sql statement.
[13:41:16] <TheMightyLaptop> s'not hard to fix, i expect pj could if he had time.
[13:40:50] <TheMightyLaptop> or something
[13:40:42] <TheMightyLaptop> and one of the filters is the wrong one for the introtext field
[13:40:07] <TheMightyLaptop> so you don't ever filter what's in the db, just filter what you pulled from the db.
[13:39:53] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:39:37] <TheMightyLaptop> nah, keep it unchanged period. only filter when you're rendering a page
[13:39:12] <TheMightyLaptop> well most all.
[13:39:10] <Bytram> k, IOW, try to keep the DB stuff unchanged for as much and for as long as possible?
[13:38:37] <TheMightyLaptop> tried to move all filtering to the output stage only
[13:38:14] <TheMightyLaptop> or preview
[13:37:52] <TheMightyLaptop> loading
[13:37:49] <Bytram> or,m other?
[13:37:46] <Bytram> got it; when does parseSlashLinks get run? Upon save? Or, upon loading of the story?
[13:36:33] <TheMightyLaptop> the tid will be added back later by parseSlashLinks but it doesn't need to be in the db
[13:36:07] <Bytram> well, maybe not exactly, but pretty much
[13:35:52] <TheMightyLaptop> jes
[13:35:47] <Bytram> DB_stuff <-- intro_text EXACTLY as I see it?
[13:35:33] <TheMightyLaptop> well not entirely true but close enough
[13:35:15] <Bytram> oh.
[13:35:08] <TheMightyLaptop> direct shoving of whatever is in introtext exactly like that into the db
[13:34:49] <TheMightyLaptop> no, no processing
[13:34:41] <TheMightyLaptop> or whatever
[13:34:38] <Bytram> DB_suff <-- update_processing(intro_text)
[13:34:33] <TheMightyLaptop> means nothing after the sid=foo/bar/224222
[13:34:20] <Bytram> hmm
[13:33:43] <TheMightyLaptop> but when you hit update have everything in introtext right cause it will overwrite what's in the db
[13:33:38] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[13:33:37] <Bytram> lol
[13:33:34] <Bender> karma - themightylaptop: 2
[13:33:34] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop++
[13:33:30] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[13:33:30] <Bytram> !woop
[13:33:28] <Bytram> GOT IT!
[13:33:10] <TheMightyLaptop> actually more of a Y or T branch cause no sense in having two copies of db_stuff but yes, exactly
[13:32:40] <Bytram> instead of DB_stuff --> introtext --> preview window
[13:32:30] <TheMightyLaptop> yep
[13:32:22] <Bytram> DB_stuff --> preview window; DB_stuff --> introtext
[13:31:45] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:31:38] <TheMightyLaptop> the put it in the introtext box filter is what's wrong
[13:31:15] <TheMightyLaptop> really don't follow but the processing is different for spitting it into the preview vs putting it in the introtext box
[13:30:19] <Bytram> or, in other words: it IS NOT: function_rendertext(render_editwindow(db_stuff))
[13:30:16] <TheMightyLaptop> what's stuffed into the empty textarea is what's getting garbled.
[13:29:51] <TheMightyLaptop> has to be different processing cause one is to render html and one is to render into a textarea
[13:29:32] <sedctl> <Bytram> instead of rendered text is function_redertext(text_in_edit_window)
[13:29:32] <Bytram> s/winwo/window/
[13:29:23] <Bytram> instead of rendered text is function_redertext(text_in_edit_winwo)
[13:29:19] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[13:29:01] <Bytram> so edit window text is function_editwindow(DB_stuff) and rendered text is function_rendertext(DB_stuff) ...
[13:28:42] <TheMightyLaptop> so the preview DOES show you accurately what you had put in but introtext does not
[13:28:13] <Bytram> oh. OH?!
[13:27:53] <TheMightyLaptop> even when you do that if you hit preview it's going to regarble in introtext
[13:27:35] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[13:27:26] <Bytram> that makes sense. And I would have sworn that is *exactly* what I did! Musta meant and done different things. oh well!
[13:26:50] <TheMightyLaptop> just make sure nothing comes after the sid=224222 and you're good
[13:26:28] <Bytram> hmmmm
[13:26:25] <Bytram> oh.
[13:26:20] <TheMightyLaptop> no, even the first edit is in the db
[13:25:59] <Bytram> 'already in the DB' ?? as a saved story? as opposed to first edit on a submission?
[13:25:31] <Bytram> okaaaaay,...
[13:25:12] <TheMightyLaptop> means removing everything after the 224222
[13:24:45] <TheMightyLaptop> lemme try n splain the flow... if it's already in the db, preview accurately represents what is in the db but introtext gets garbled. you have to fix it whenever you update.
[13:23:38] <Bytram> I think I get it... so the "Intro Copy" is not really what goes into the DB, but is, instead, an attempt to present to the user what it would look like in such a way that it would generate the main page(rendered) text?
[13:21:31] <TheMightyLaptop> ya, it's just a matter of fixing bad links when necessary. believe what you type in not what is filled in for you in introtext
[13:21:29] <sedctl> <Bytram> thanks for the quick feedback at oh-dark-thirty on a Sunday morning!
[13:21:29] <Bytram> s/ and/ at/
[13:21:23] <Bytram> thanks for the quick feedback and oh-dark-thirty on a Sunday morning!
[13:21:05] <Bytram> 8)
[13:21:01] <Bytram> =)
[13:20:51] <Bytram> I'll just try and keep my eyes peeled *wide* open
[13:20:44] <TheMightyLaptop> something i did when i redid the filters i expect
[13:20:30] <Bytram> could be.
[13:20:22] <Bytram> understood.
[13:20:21] <TheMightyLaptop> shrug, prolly a typo
[13:20:04] <Bytram> okay, so if I beat on it enough, I guess I can force it to work, but the question is: how/why did it get broked up in the first place when it was given a valid link to start with?
[13:19:50] <TheMightyLaptop> i know what it is and i know how to fix it but i'm on leave and won't be fixing anything for another 3 weeks or so.
[13:19:06] <TheMightyLaptop> ya, i had to fix that on another story a while back
[13:18:48] <TheMightyLaptop> preview will and update will save what you tell it to.
[13:18:41] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03SN article:  var pageload = { pagemark: '798606212724853073', before_content: (new Date).getTime() }; function pageload_done( $, console, maybe ){ pageload.after_readycode = (new Date).getTime(); pageload.content_ready_time = pageload.content_ready - pageload.before_content; pageload.script_ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.content_ready; pageload.ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.before_content; // Only report 1% of cases.
[13:18:41] <Bytram> whatI had seen, originally, on the main page was: "https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/02/224222tid"
[13:18:29] <TheMightyLaptop> only the edit box of intro copy will be wrong. it won't accurately reflect what is in the db.
[13:18:02] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[13:17:54] <Bytram> well, the link is now correct and when I clicked on it, it took me to the "Talking to Pluto" story
[13:17:29] <Bytram> hmm
[13:16:52] <TheMightyLaptop> ya, that's added back in by the slashlinks system
[13:16:32] <Bytram> and now the tid IS in the story, and it looks to be formatted correctly
[13:16:05] <TheMightyLaptop> so above is fine and the story is fine but in the intro copy part it will be buggered up
[13:15:43] <TheMightyLaptop> it is. it's getting buggered up when it's given back to you below not as it's stored in the db
[13:15:37] <Bytram> I'll do that next time. Right now, with the &tid in there, I'm going to hit update
[13:15:07] <Bytram> I look in the preview window and it looks good there, too.
[13:15:05] <TheMightyLaptop> now remove the &amp;tid=14 and hit update
[13:14:50] <TheMightyLaptop> good good
[13:14:47] <Bytram> okay, so the tid got added back in, but it looks okay.
[13:14:34] <Bytram> well, after that, I just hit preview and the link is now: href="//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/02/224222&amp;tid=14"
[13:13:46] <TheMightyLaptop> no, i just hit preview
[13:13:41] <TheMightyLaptop> kay
[13:13:36] <Bytram> is that what you did?
[13:13:32] <Bytram> i.e. chopped off the &tid and all following text
[13:13:18] <Bytram> I just truncated the link in the story editor to be: href="//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/02/224222"
[13:13:06] * Bytram is repeating his steps.
[13:12:27] <Bytram> ok, now it's my turn... don't follow. Let me just try somethin real quick. brb
[13:12:22] <TheMightyLaptop> dunno why that's happening, wrong filter on the admin.pl page maybe
[13:10:51] <TheMightyLaptop> preview is what's fubar not update
[13:10:50] <Bytram> hmmm
[13:10:45] <Bytram> I coulda sworn that is exactly what I did do and that's not what happened for me.
[13:10:09] <TheMightyLaptop> yes and if you remove the "tid" and hit update it saves it correctly
[13:09:55] * Bytram refreshes main page
[13:09:50] <Bytram> hrrrrm
[13:09:43] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03SN article:  var pageload = { pagemark: '798606212724853073', before_content: (new Date).getTime() }; function pageload_done( $, console, maybe ){ pageload.after_readycode = (new Date).getTime(); pageload.content_ready_time = pageload.content_ready - pageload.before_content; pageload.script_ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.content_ready; pageload.ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.before_content; // Only report 1% of cases.
[13:09:43] <Bytram> but but but... I *did* that, and it left it as: https://soylentnews.org
[13:09:33] <TheMightyLaptop> just buggers up if you hit preview again
[13:08:32] <TheMightyLaptop> remove everything after the sid value in the link and it's peachy
[13:08:16] <Bytram> lemme check
[13:08:02] <TheMightyLaptop> i dunno what to tell yas, looks good now
[13:07:27] <Bytram> I tried that, and it reappeared.
[13:06:42] <Bytram> try it.
[13:06:36] <TheMightyLaptop> so remove the "tid" from the end of the link and hit update
[13:06:17] <Bytram> ding ding ding
[13:05:51] <TheMightyLaptop> ahhh, when you hit preview
[13:05:43] <Bytram> it looks just fine in the *editor* window.
[13:05:28] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:05:25] <TheMightyLaptop> cause it reads fine to me
[13:05:18] <TheMightyLaptop> okay, what's wrong with the link?
[13:04:59] <Bytram> that's better! =)
[13:04:52] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1039
[13:04:52] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:04:50] <Bytram> oh. my bad
[13:04:26] <TheMightyLaptop> oh you linked the talking to pluto story first
[13:04:05] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article:  Talking to Pluto 04(16 comments)
[13:04:04] <Bytram> see: https://soylentnews.org
[13:04:04] <TheMightyLaptop> isn't one
[13:03:51] <Bytram> hover over the link that has link text: "getting data back from Pluto"
[13:03:28] <TheMightyLaptop> yeah...
[13:03:23] <Bytram> go in to edit the story
[13:03:07] <Bytram> k
[13:03:04] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[13:02:59] <TheMightyLaptop> cept the one to TFA
[13:02:59] <Bytram> you've got the "Pluto and Ceres" story up, right?
[13:02:51] <TheMightyLaptop> there is no link in the intro copy pane of that story
[13:02:45] <Bytram> let me start over.
[13:02:40] <Bytram> k.
[13:02:27] <TheMightyLaptop> yeah, i have no idea what you're talking about now
[13:02:08] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03SN article:  Pluto and Ceres 04(12 comments)
[13:02:08] <Bytram> story is here: https://soylentnews.org
[13:01:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article:  Talking to Pluto 04(16 comments)
[13:01:57] <Bytram> and is included, there, as: https://soylentnews.org
[13:01:41] <Bytram> the related stories link works
[13:01:39] <TheMightyLaptop> hold up, still trying to find the bad link
[13:01:27] <Bytram> here's the strange part:
[13:01:20] <Bytram> I'm undercaffienated, but saw a user comment about the link being broken and am trying to fix.
[13:00:40] <Bytram> I've tried deleting the inserted &tid text and save (with and without preview) and it gets put back in, and wrong.
[13:00:11] <Bytram> :/
[13:00:09] <Bytram> notice the trailing "tid" text.
[12:59:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article:  var pageload = { pagemark: '798606212724853073', before_content: (new Date).getTime() }; function pageload_done( $, console, maybe ){ pageload.after_readycode = (new Date).getTime(); pageload.content_ready_time = pageload.content_ready - pageload.before_content; pageload.script_ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.content_ready; pageload.ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.before_content; // Only report 1% of cases.
[12:59:57] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[12:59:48] <Bytram> after preview (or notr) and save, it comes out on the main page as:
[12:59:35] <Bytram> when I edit the story, the link in the "Intro Copy" pane is: href="//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/02/224222&amp;tid=14"
[12:59:11] <TheMightyLaptop> Bytram, yeah, sup?
[12:58:30] <Bytram> it's the first link in the story: "getting data back from Pluto"
[12:56:42] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article:  Pluto and Ceres 04(12 comments)
[12:56:41] * Bytram is having the hardest time trying to fix an SN link in: https://soylentnews.org
[12:56:09] <Bytram> TheMightyLaptop: ping. you up?
[12:55:25] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5039, owned by Maskawanian
[12:55:23] <Bytram> ~uid
[12:55:19] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4027, owned by htmbv
[12:55:19] <Bytram> !uid
[12:55:07] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 10°F, light snow, wind NE at 8 mph, humidity 86% - Sunday snow (9°F-18°F), Monday snow (14°F-21°F), Tuesday chance of snow showers (9°F-27°F), Wednesday mostly cloudy (9°F-23°F) - google
[12:55:05] <Bytram> ~weather portland, maine
[12:54:57] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 29°F, light snow, wind NE at 5 mph, humidity 94% - Sunday snow (25°F-32°F), Monday snow (21°F-32°F), Tuesday chance of snow (18°F-37°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (18°F-28°F) - google
[12:54:55] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:54:43] <Bytram> morning, all
[12:54:36] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[12:54:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1038
[12:54:30] <Bytram|away> coffee++
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[12:38:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Richard Stallman Concerned about lldb Support in Emacs' gud - http://sylnt.us - considering-the-ramifications
[12:09:56] * Subsentient moderates insightful
[11:40:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[11:40:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[11:40:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays, today's spam mod was legit
[11:35:20] <aqu4> Sun 2015-02-08 04:34:24 AM MST
[11:35:20] <Subsentient> $time MST
[11:35:17] <aqu4> burrito, beer, godzilla4**, wz, guessinggame, sr, time, title, ddg, coin, seen, tell, sticky, replace, whoami, tail8*, msg8*, memsg8*, noticemsg8*, chanctl8*, join8*, part8*, cycle8*, debug8*, nickchange4**, admin4**, blacklist8*, netwrite4**, quit4**, restart4**, help, commands
[11:35:16] <aqu4> Commands with 1 star = admins only, 2 stars = owners only. Commands available:
[11:35:16] <Subsentient> $commands
[11:35:13] <aqu4> 4[1 of 1] Name: Pit Of Doom | Map: 4Triumvirate-T1 (map-mod) | Host: New One | Players: 3/3 | IP: 180.215.34.38 | Version: 3.1.2
[11:35:13] <Subsentient> $wz
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[11:35:02] <aqu4> Be right back.
[11:35:02] <Subsentient> $restart
[11:34:58] <exec> 03Ada, OK, USA - currently 46°F, clear, wind SE at 7 mph, humidity 100% - Sunday partly cloudy (39°F-73°F), Monday clear (41°F-70°F), Tuesday clear (39°F-70°F), Wednesday partly cloudy (34°F-59°F) - google
[11:34:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[11:33:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> erg, slept right through my alarm today
[11:29:44] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 255
[11:29:44] <crutchy> ++coffee
[11:28:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1037
[11:28:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:14:17] <crutchy> i don't even know why
[10:13:58] <crutchy> it was sooooo exciting :p
[10:13:52] <crutchy> i saw a street view car today
[10:07:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Prepares to Disrupt Wireless Carrier Industry; Verizon Yawns - http://sylnt.us - every-move-you-make;-every-call-you-take;-we'll-be-watching-you
[10:03:39] <Bender> karma - mod_rewrite: 0
[10:03:39] <crutchy> mod_rewrite++
[10:03:31] <crutchy> omfg
[09:42:13] <arti> that's a good spot to keep them.
[09:41:02] <crutchy> they're in bed now
[09:40:45] <arti> have you fed the dingos today?
[09:39:17] <crutchy> evenin arti
[09:39:00] <arti> morning mate
[09:36:34] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 254
[09:36:34] <crutchy> ++coffee
[09:34:03] <arti> we should all invest in raspberry pi case companies.
[09:27:25] <swiss> lolol
[09:06:25] <arti> apparently works with a laser pointer, too.
[09:02:06] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Don't take a picture of your Raspberry Pi 2 - YouTube
[09:02:05] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
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[03:56:12] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Corning fires up new super scratch-resistant glass - CNET
[03:56:11] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.cnet.com
[03:02:33] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03If RPG Video Game Characters Were Honest
[03:02:32] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, http://videosift.com
[03:01:46] <SpallsHurgenson> mmm, critters
[02:59:41] <exec> 00,02<00,06m00,04a00,07r00,08q00,09u00,12e00,02e00,06>00,04i00,07r00,08c00,09 00,12200,02.00,06000,04<00,07/00,08m00,09a00,12r00,02q00,06u00,04e00,07e00,08>
[02:59:40] <crutchy_> ~rainbow <marquee>irc 2.0</marquee>
[02:57:17] <LancePodstrong> it should be all or none
[02:57:12] <LancePodstrong> only some of the letters blink and it makes it really hard to read
[02:56:45] <crutchy_> aw. andchat strips the colors :(
[02:56:43] <LancePodstrong> the woodland critters have started using the trail i hacked through the woods last month
[02:56:24] <exec> 00,06d00,04o00,07c00,08t00,09o00,12r00,02 00,06I00,04 00,07t00,08h00,09i00,12n00,02k00,06 00,04I00,07 00,08m00,09i00,12g00,02h00,06t00,04 00,07b00,08e00,09 00,12a00,02 00,06h00,04o00,07m00,08o00,09s00,12e00,02x00,06u00,04a00,07l
[02:56:23] <crutchy_> ~rainbow doctor I think I might be a homosexual
[02:56:11] <LancePodstrong> it was nice out today, got some nice trudging in the snow done with the dog
[02:54:53] <LancePodstrong> but it might be all that cannabis
[02:54:43] * LancePodstrong can taste the rainbow
[02:54:22] * exec brazenly cracks open an anvil of skittles for LancePodstrong
[02:54:21] <crutchy_> ~g'day LancePodstrong
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[02:46:49] <Bender> Added quote 375
[02:46:48] <chromas> Bender: grab crutchy_
[02:45:46] <crutchy_> or draw a dick next to it and caption the image "instructions not clear enough. got dick caught in battery"
[02:44:04] <crutchy_> I could have a single pixel line going frpm the top of the battery as a cord with a plug at the end that fell out of thr wall socket
[02:44:02] <chromas> :/ now I'm in the mood for some photoshopping
[02:43:24] <chromas> Could make the filled part go outside the batter; have it look like the battery cracked open
[02:42:39] <crutchy_> mine doesnt have numbers
[02:42:19] <crutchy_> make it go up to 11
[02:41:59] <chromas> or modify it so the graph goes beyond the battery, 200% charge
[02:41:36] <chromas> photoshop out everything but the battery
[02:37:31] <crutchy_> and every tom dick n harry points it out
[02:36:45] <crutchy_> I should post a screen cap on imgur. they always show almost empty battery
[02:35:47] <crutchy_> damn phone battery running low
[02:35:32] <Bytram> afk brb
[02:35:06] <Bender> karma - bacon: 288
[02:35:06] <Bytram> bacon--
[02:35:03] <Bender> karma - bacon: 289
[02:35:03] <crutchy_> bacon++
[02:35:01] <Bender> karma - bacon: 288
[02:35:01] <Bytram> bacon--
[02:34:59] <Bender> karma - poutine: -381
[02:34:59] <Bytram> poutine--
[02:34:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1036
[02:34:55] <Bytram> coffee++
[02:34:52] <Bytram> oh, and lest I forget:
[02:34:51] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 8 February 2015, 2:34 am
[02:34:49] <chromas> ~time for justice
[02:34:44] <Bender> karma - food: 11
[02:34:44] <Bytram> food++ brb
[02:33:40] <exec> Saturday, 7 February 2015 @ 9:33 pm EST - Washington, DC, USA
[02:33:38] <crutchy_> ~time hell
[02:33:17] <Bytram> noice!
[02:33:11] <exec> Sunday, 8 February 2015 @ 2:33 am GMT - Greenwich Mean Time
[02:33:09] <Bytram> ~time UTC
[02:33:02] <exec> Sunday, 8 February 2015 @ 2:33 am GMT - Greenwich Mean Time
[02:33:00] <crutchy_> ~time gmt
[02:32:45] * Bytram likes that one as it is also a play on "Timex" -- a popular watch brand
[02:32:44] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 8 February 2015, 2:32 am
[02:32:43] <chromas> ~time musheen
[02:32:21] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 8 February 2015, 2:32 am
[02:32:20] <Bytram> ~time x
[02:32:11] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 8 February 2015, 2:32 am
[02:32:10] <crutchy_> ~time fart
[02:31:50] <Bytram> Bender's a little slow; that was pegged to go out at: 02:17 UTC
[02:31:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jailbreak your Tractor or Make it Run OSS? - http://sylnt.us - dawn-of-year-of-linux-on-the-tractor
[02:30:36] <crutchy_> nod
[02:30:18] <Bytram> then TMB could do a select and delete based on that string
[02:30:05] <Bytram> can you preface the submitted story's title with a fixed string while testing? e.g. "FEED-TEST-XYZZY "
[02:29:06] <Bytram> oh. nvm.
[02:29:05] <crutchy_> I didnt want to clog up the dev queue while I was testing
[02:28:26] <Bytram> ah. got it! hmmm, so that's an interim step in your processing?
[02:27:59] <crutchy_> bytram, yeah plenty to improve. though it prolly wouldnt matter for a submission. only shows up in the paste cos its text/plain
[02:11:42] <Bytram> ok, there's one done; should be live in about 5 minutes or so.
[02:11:06] * Bytram goes to quiver in a corner
[02:10:58] <Bytram> might want to do something along the lines of: s/&nbsp;/ /g
[02:10:43] <chromas> Feed it to ciri and have it write the submissions :D
[02:10:31] <Bytram> BTW, nice job scraping the text!
[02:10:16] <Bytram> hmmm, maybe a half-dozen paragraphs or 1024 bytes, whichever comes first?
[02:06:10] * Bytram goes to look at what got pasted...
[02:06:00] <crutchy_> thinking of limitibg to couple of paragraphs or summin
[02:05:56] <SpallsHurgenson> soylent has a website now?
[02:04:59] <Bytram> I'm not sure how that is better than just going to the site, itself... 'cept for cookies and javascript/tracking and the like, I suppose.
[02:03:44] <Bytram> oh. THAT's what you meant by 'a pastie'
[02:03:23] <Bytram> huh?
[02:03:16] <exec> http://paste.my.to
[02:03:12] <Bytram> ~filter http://www.wired.com
[02:02:22] <Bytram> give me a bit - I'm right in the middle of editing a story
[02:01:58] <crutchy_> try ~filter <url>
[02:01:25] <Bytram> biggest help would be to include more of the story in the submission -- a link and a single line is pretty tough to start from... including the frist, say, three paragraphs from the story does a *lot* to help give an idea of how (or if) to proceed with it.
[02:01:00] <crutchy_> I prolly still only submit if queue dries up
[02:00:21] <Bytram> I appreciate the effort!
[02:00:04] <crutchy_> still bit dodgy though
[01:59:54] <crutchy_> bytram. I been mucking about with ~submit a little. I made a ~filter alias to display submission in a pastie
[01:56:45] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5038, owned by eod
[01:56:43] <crutchy_> ~uid
[01:56:20] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Arthur C. Clarke accurately describes the 21st century...in 1976 - CNET
[01:56:20] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.cnet.com
[01:56:20] <exec> *** SN submission queue: 11 - http://sylnt.us
[01:56:15] <crutchy_> ~queue
[01:55:27] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: have fun watching trek!
[01:54:41] <Bytram> back in a bit
[01:54:38] * Bytram notices the story queue is empty, time to process some story submissions and move stories to the front page.
[01:54:06] <Bytram> there's a lake up north: mooselookmeguntic
[01:53:55] <Bytram> yuppers -- those are the *really* fun ones.
[01:53:50] <crutchy_> aboriginal names are weird
[01:53:35] <crutchy_> you guys have some native indian city names too I guess
[01:53:24] <Bytram> 'woburn' is not woe-burn but woo-burn
[01:53:07] <Bytram> not in massachusetts, at least.
[01:52:56] <crutchy_> I always thought it was reading like a book reading
[01:52:56] <Bytram> 'saco' is not 'sayko' but 'caw-ko'
[01:52:41] <chromas> Butte
[01:52:36] <crutchy_> oh lol
[01:52:28] <Bytram> e.g. 'reading' is pronounced 'redding'
[01:52:19] <Bytram> so do the states -- but more along the lines of the locals do not pronounce the place name the way you'd think it would be pronounced
[01:51:47] <Bytram> nod nod
[01:51:38] <crutchy_> dunno. straya has lots of weird names
[01:51:05] <Bytram> now that is an interesting name for a city! any idea why it is named that?
[01:50:35] <crutchy_> im in a city called 'sale' atm
[01:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, think it's trek n lay around time
[01:50:05] <Bytram> crutchy_: whatcha trying to do? get a sale on weather?
[01:49:40] <crutchy_> I give up
[01:49:33] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[01:49:32] <crutchy_> ~weather raaf base east sale victoria australia
[01:48:39] <crutchy_> dumbot
[01:48:32] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[01:48:30] <crutchy_> ~weather sale, victoria, australia
[01:48:10] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: lol
[01:48:04] <Bytram> but seriously, we've got more snow on the ground than I remember in a long time and they're forecasting another 8-12 inches
[01:47:58] <chromas> crutchy_: that's why they have namespaces
[01:47:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, hells no. i like being able to see the ground.
[01:47:39] <Bender> karma - generic_city_names: -1
[01:47:39] <crutchy_> generic_city_names--
[01:47:25] <Bytram> the price is right... free!
[01:47:03] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[01:47:02] <crutchy_> ~weather sale victoria
[01:46:48] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: want some snow? I've already got *PLENTY* and... lots more is coming, soon!
[01:46:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> global warming for the win
[01:46:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> suck it, winter
[01:46:23] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: hiya!
[01:46:21] <exec> 03Ada, OK, USA - currently 57°F, clear, wind S at 12 mph, humidity 72% - Saturday fog (43°F-70°F), Sunday partly cloudy (41°F-73°F), Monday partly cloudy (41°F-64°F), Tuesday clear (46°F-66°F) - google
[01:46:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[01:46:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> heya, Bytram
[01:46:08] <exec> 03Portland, ME, USA - currently 25°F, overcast, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 75% - Saturday snow (10°F-27°F), Sunday snow (9°F-18°F), Monday snow (14°F-23°F), Tuesday partly cloudy (10°F-27°F) - google
[01:46:07] <Bytram> ~weather portland, maine
[01:45:58] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[01:45:58] <Bytram> ~weather-prefs unit imperial
[01:45:40] <Bytram> lol! PWM == Portland-Westbrook Metro ... as in Portland, Maine!
[01:45:34] <exec> successfully saved prefs
[01:45:33] <crutchy_> ~weather-prefs unit metric
[01:45:18] <exec> 03Portland, OR, USA - currently 56°F / 13°C, mostly cloudy, humidity 84% - Saturday rain (46°F-58°F / 8°C-14°C), Sunday rain (45°F-57°F / 7°C-14°C), Monday rain (43°F-55°F / 6°C-13°C), Tuesday chance of rain (41°F-54°F / 5°C-12°C) - google
[01:45:17] <Bytram> ~weather PWM
[01:45:10] <exec> 03Boston, MA, USA - currently 29°F / -2°C, light snow, wind S at 7 mph, humidity 80% - Saturday chance of snow (23°F-30°F / -5°C--1°C), Sunday snow (25°F-30°F / -4°C--1°C), Monday snow (25°F-37°F / -4°C-3°C), Tuesday chance of snow (14°F-39°F / -10°C-4°C) - google
[01:45:08] <Bytram> ~weather boston
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[01:44:37] <exec> 03Melbourne VIC - currently 66°F / 19°C, overcast, wind W at 2 mph, humidity 76% - Sunday clear (57°F-73°F / 14°C-23°C), Monday clear (58°F-85°F / 14°C-29°C), Tuesday clear (64°F-91°F / 18°C-33°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (60°F-92°F / 16°C-33°C) - google
[01:44:36] <crutchy_> ~weather crutchy
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[01:43:09] <crutchy_> ~gday Bytram|away
[01:42:52] <crutchy_> yo Bytram|away
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[01:40:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Bob Ross Remixed | Happy Little Clouds | PBS Digital Studios - YouTube
[01:40:57] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[01:38:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i love that guy. he's like a stoned mr. rogers.
[01:38:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> HAPPY LITTLE MOTHERFUCKIN TREES!
[01:37:14] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Internet Archive Search: collection:The_Joy_of_Painting
[01:37:13] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, "The Joy of Painting" https://archive.org Happy little clouds! Happy little trees!
[01:37:03] <crutchy_> specially when they punch a hole in your piles to check for white powder
[01:35:38] <crutchy_> the plowing system is corrupt and snowist
[01:35:13] <crutchy_> brown snow gets targeted by plows more
[01:34:14] <crutchy_> tama, dont eat snow that has a yellowish tinge
[01:34:04] <SpallsHurgenson> (or a few hours of passing automobiles)
[01:34:02] <chromas> Here, try this crutchy; it's lemon!
[01:33:49] <crutchy_> beware the yellow snow
[01:33:26] <SpallsHurgenson> crutchy: not after the dogs have been at it
[01:33:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> racist!
[01:33:13] <crutchy_> its white, right?
[01:33:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i spect he'll be back but if not we'll manage.
[01:32:55] * crutchy_ is of course speaking from his significant experience with snow :p
[01:32:19] <crutchy_> that shit gets everywhere
[01:32:17] <SpallsHurgenson> trying to dumb down my high-level discourse to something a User can understand exhausts me for days :) :)
[01:32:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> and us devs, and the editors, and the other board members.
[01:32:04] <crutchy_> prolly all the snow he accumulated between his toes
[01:31:35] <SpallsHurgenson> probably had to recover from the stress of a user talking back to him
[01:31:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's on leave, yo. havin significant issues.
[01:30:40] <crutchy_> derp
[01:30:30] <crutchy_> s/f/d/
[01:30:18] <crutchy_> ncommander seems to have bailef
[01:30:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> keeps me from having to deal with management issues.
[01:29:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ya, only reason I let paulej72 do a little of that is so he feels like he's in charge of stuff.
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[01:29:28] <crutchy_> yeah! fuck beta!
[01:28:16] <SpallsHurgenson> of course, the only thing worse than Users is Other Programmers. Those talentless hacks coming in with "suggestions" and "improvements" and "optimizations"; they just can't see the vision and magnificence of my code!
[01:25:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> "Did you see a sign that said 'Burger King' when you came in? And do you know why? Because having it your way ain't my motherfucking business!"
[01:23:40] <SpallsHurgenson> Preach on, Brother Buzzard!
[01:23:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, if they want to do it their way they can write their own bloody code.
[01:22:13] <SpallsHurgenson> they should understand they are PRIVILEGED to use our software, and follow the course WE have laid down for them. We wrote the damn thing, we know better than they what should be done? Choices? Phah!
[01:20:19] * TheMightyBuzzard goes to DROP TABLE users
[01:19:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[01:19:23] <SpallsHurgenson> the problem, I think we all can agree, is with the users, not our programs. So the best thing to do is write software that doesn't attract any users :)
[01:18:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, yeah, fuck a bunch of users that try doing things in unexpected ways
[01:18:40] <chromas> 10 GOTO 20
[01:18:32] <crutchy_> :D
[01:18:17] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, lots of gotos, they just both move you ahead to the same spot no matter which way you go :)
[01:17:41] <crutchy_> what! no gotos!?
[01:17:06] <SpallsHurgenson> whenever I flowchart it ends up looking like this: 0-->0-->0-->0 because I refuse to acknowledge the possibility of branches. My way or the highway, baby! :)
[01:17:00] <Bender> karma - comments: -1
[01:17:00] <crutchy_> comments--
[01:16:39] <crutchy_> throw shit at the wall and see what sticks
[01:15:59] <chromas> flowcharts and mountains of comments and also, diagram those sentences!
[01:15:38] <crutchy_> cowboy coding is the best methodology
[01:14:53] <chromas> But that's like, uh…the it's what yer s'poss'd'a do!
[01:14:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I have a "real" * metal gauntlet; I've always wanted to use it to do the glove-to-the-face-duel-challenge-slap thing :) :)
[01:14:22] <crutchy_> not much a fan of flowcharts
[01:13:50] <crutchy_> summin like that
[01:13:22] * crutchy_ glove slaps SpallsHurgenson
[01:13:19] <chromas> flow charts
[01:13:16] <chromas> gonna make those bubble things?
[01:13:04] <chromas> sweet
[01:12:48] <crutchy_> chromas: brought a notepad with me to flesh out some ideas
[01:12:40] <SpallsHurgenson> what, somebody got to it before me? I was pre-empted? who was this fiend? I shall challenge him to a duel! Rubber bands at twenty paces!
[01:10:02] <crutchy_> hmm I think someone linked it in #
[01:09:49] <SpallsHurgenson> are you trying to imply that a long, powerful train pushing its way indominitably forward, waves of oozy whiteness splashing ahead of it, is somehow sexual? Sorry, I just don't see it
[01:09:43] <crutchy_> haha I watch ed that video yesterday
[01:07:48] <chromas> "Train Porn"
[01:06:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Train plows through huge snow drifts in Canada
[01:06:40] <SpallsHurgenson> wow, Canada knows how to handle snow! http://videosift.com :)
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