#Soylent | Logs for 2015-01-25
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[00:00:05] <crutchy> the terrorists are winning :/
[00:00:07] <crutchy> http://news.google.com.au
[00:00:12] <crutchy> oh shit
[00:00:22] <crutchy> http://www.bbc.co.uk
[00:00:23] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03BBC News - Japan PM Abe condemns hostage 'death' video
[00:00:26] <crutchy> fuking google
[00:01:11] <crutchy> not winning in any military measure, but in terrorising
[00:01:13] <JamesNZ> As horrible as that is, they're just making more and more enemies for themselves. There's no they can win with so many against them.
[00:01:18] <JamesNZ> no way*
[00:01:57] <crutchy> i think making enemies is their objective
[00:02:12] <crutchy> they're deliberately picking fights
[00:03:01] <JamesNZ> Perhaps. But that's still astoundingly stupid :P
[00:03:12] <crutchy> luring the west into engaging in air raids etc, which further rallies support for them in the mid east
[00:03:21] <crutchy> s/raids/strikes/
[00:03:21] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> luring the west into engaging in air strikes etc, which further rallies support for them in the mid east
[00:03:37] <crutchy> they're using blowback against the west
[00:03:46] <JamesNZ> I dunno, from what I hear a lot of people there are against them.
[00:04:24] <crutchy> some possibly are, but if that were the case they wouldn't be so big
[00:04:27] <JamesNZ> Heck, even Iran is against them :P
[00:04:47] <crutchy> well, the iranian government might be
[00:05:48] <crutchy> isis is a threat to the mid-east status quo. everyone who has benefited from the status quo will resist them
[00:06:31] <crutchy> i dunno what the deal with the iranian government is, but i'm sure they have a self-serving motive that prolly doesn't benefit the iranian people
[00:07:33] <JamesNZ> Maybe.
[00:08:11] <crutchy> i think there's also a lot of propaganda from the mainstream media
[00:08:29] <crutchy> it's interesting to think about... from the safety and comfort of my couch :d
[00:08:40] <JamesNZ> :P
[00:09:56] <crutchy> i read somewhere that isis pays better than the iraq military
[00:10:08] <crutchy> if that's true it explains why they might be gaining traction there
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[00:12:37] <crutchy> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[00:12:38] * exec allegedly postulates a blagoblag of $insert_beverage_here towards TheMightyBuzzard
[00:13:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, is fairly good
[00:13:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> busy but that's how it goes
[00:14:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, i need to put food in me but i'm too tired to be hungry.
[00:14:44] <JamesNZ> food++
[00:14:44] <Bender> karma - food: 10
[00:15:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Acquires Revolution Analytics - http://sylnt.us - you-get-what-you-measure
[00:15:21] <crutchy> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[00:15:21] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03503 Service Unavailable
[00:16:23] <crutchy> are you breaking stuff?
[00:16:42] * crutchy notes that breaking stuff can be fun
[00:17:11] * JamesNZ breaks crutchy's coffee habit!
[00:17:23] <JamesNZ> You're right, that was fun :)
[00:17:27] <crutchy> i've only had half a cup today
[00:17:41] <crutchy> and its already 11.30
[00:17:52] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[00:58:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, must check out star conflict
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[01:41:02] <crutchy> ~time chicago
[01:41:04] <exec> Saturday, 24 January 2015 @ 7:41 pm CST - Chicago, IL, USA
[01:47:59] <arti> ~time oz
[01:48:00] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 25 January 2015, 1:47 am
[01:48:29] <juggs> ~time upside-down-land
[01:48:31] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 25 January 2015, 1:48 am
[01:48:57] <crutchy> ~time wombatistan
[01:48:58] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 25 January 2015, 1:48 am
[01:49:06] <arti> ~time dropbearistan
[01:49:07] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 25 January 2015, 1:49 am
[01:49:33] <crutchy> ~time hell
[01:49:35] <exec> Saturday, 24 January 2015 @ 8:49 pm EST - Washington, DC, USA
[01:50:50] * arti approves
[01:53:54] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[01:53:55] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Breathing City - Imgur
[01:53:58] <Konomi> ;p
[01:55:02] <crutchy> http://www.wsj.com
[01:55:03] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03IRS Giveaway: Tax-Filing Software - WSJ
[01:55:18] <crutchy> hmm wonder if this will work
[01:55:22] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.wsj.com
[01:55:52] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[01:57:35] <crutchy> not the most detailed submission, but prolly better than i could come up with myself
[02:00:44] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[02:00:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[02:00:50] <Konomi> 8 hours of memory sampling
[02:01:38] <Konomi> no leaky leaks
[02:07:55] <crutchy> i was thinking of making a little pastie website
[02:08:16] <crutchy> maybe with a cli option like ix.io
[02:08:33] <crutchy> atm i'm still trying to get the url shortener to work though :/
[02:17:28] <crutchy> woohoo
[02:17:30] <crutchy> http://z.cr.rs
[02:17:49] <crutchy> derp
[02:26:24] <paulej72> dev is fixed
[02:26:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> was it broke?
[02:27:30] <paulej72> yes I updated the version number that Apache uses and I got the wrong format
[02:27:38] <crutchy> ~api uid paulej72
[02:27:40] <exec> SN uid for user "paulej72" is 58
[02:27:44] <crutchy> :D
[02:28:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, nod nod
[02:31:33] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: when will you be available tomorrow. I was thinking of doing the update at 10 ish est
[02:36:56] <crutchy> yay
[02:37:04] <crutchy> shortener seems to be playing the game
[02:37:14] <crutchy> http://z.cr.rs
[02:37:14] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03z.cr.rs
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[02:48:23] <crutchy> ~shorten http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[02:48:24] <exec> http://z.cr.rs
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[03:10:24] <juggs> ~gday SpallsHurgenson
[03:10:25] * exec clumsily throws a cold can of pancakes at SpallsHurgenson
[03:10:45] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, I could do with some pancakes.
[03:11:21] <arti> fresh from the can
[03:11:55] <SpallsHurgenson> there's a new pancake restaurant just down the road that I've been meaning to visit
[03:12:24] <crutchy> dammit. neighbour is mowing lawn. now i feel guilty and shall go attempt to start the lawnmower :/
[03:12:34] <SpallsHurgenson> get off my lawn!
[03:12:47] <SpallsHurgenson> sorry, that was just a reflex action
[03:14:15] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arstechnica.com if we listened to them, "normal people" wouldn't need 28.8kbps
[03:14:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03No need for speed: Cable industry opposes 25Mbps broadband definition | Ars Technica
[03:14:35] <Konomi> you'll take the internet we give you serfs
[03:16:20] <SpallsHurgenson> according to TFA, there is a minimum speed (10/1) for broadband projects that rely on the Universal Service fund... strange I still see that fee on my much slower DSL bill...
[03:17:15] <SpallsHurgenson> (it's the DSL that is much slower, not the bill; those always come fast enough :)
[03:17:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pending Legislation — "Secure Our Borders First Act" — Biometric ID Required to Leave USA - http://sylnt.us - you-can-check-out-any-time-you-like-but-you-can-never-leave-♩♩♬♪♫
[03:20:05] <SpallsHurgenson> Ramius: I will live in Montana. ... And drive from state to state. Do they let you do that?
[03:20:05] <SpallsHurgenson> Captain Ramius: I suppose.
[03:20:05] <SpallsHurgenson> Capt. Vasili Borodin: No papers?
[03:20:05] <SpallsHurgenson> Captain Ramius: No papers, state to state.
[03:20:22] <SpallsHurgenson> (Canada is one of the states, right? ;-)
[03:20:55] <SpallsHurgenson> (that quote was from "Red October", in case you didn't recognize it)
[03:26:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, 10pm-ish or am-ish?
[03:28:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, sorry i missed ya earlier. going to be in and out a lot more often than normal, early mornings aside, until the move.
[03:34:23] * SpallsHurgenson decides to watch "Seven Samurai", one of the greatest movies ever made :)
[03:47:55] <paulej72> pm ish
[03:48:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> can prolly do that if i get a good nap in.
[03:48:54] <paulej72> should be straight forward
[03:50:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, only tricky bit is remembering to symlink the logo in the themes
[03:52:51] <paulej72> why did you not just throw a copy with a different name?
[03:53:44] <paulej72> I'll need to look at that
[03:53:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i did, it just installs to an odd spot instead of to the proper directory.
[03:57:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably a way to fix that but i didn't bother to find it. just used your bada55 theme as a template.
[04:17:33] <paulej72> the fav icon files were in the wrong directory
[04:44:29] * SpallsHurgenson hides treats 'round the home and watches as kitty goes snuffling about lookin' for 'em
[04:45:09] <crutchy> yay back lawn mowed :D
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[04:45:47] <SpallsHurgenson> I think you mowed over konomi's internet cable
[04:46:16] <crutchy> ooh https://github.com
[04:46:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03added opengraph meta tags · af2c451 · pipedot/pipecode · GitHub
[04:46:31] <crutchy> pipedot upgrade :D
[04:46:37] <crutchy> must be upgrade season
[04:47:26] * crutchy removes pants
[04:47:31] <crutchy> ahhhhh yeah
[04:47:44] <arti> kein hose. kein problem.
[04:48:12] <crutchy> ~define en kein
[04:48:19] <crutchy> oops
[04:48:25] <crutchy> ~translate en kein
[04:48:26] <exec> [stoacademy] 3en kein: Player vs Envoroment - PvE
[04:48:27] <exec> [google translate] kein (auto -> en): no
[04:48:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Unvaccinated Students Dismissed from California High School after Measles Exposure - http://sylnt.us - but-your-homework-is-still-due-on-time
[04:49:53] <SpallsHurgenson> it would be "keine Hosen", wouldn't it?
[04:51:05] <crutchy> oh no all the progressives will be out in force "but you can't dismiss students cos forcing teachers to teach under any and all conditions... oops i mean education... is a right!"
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[04:53:00] <crutchy> ah oh
[04:53:11] * crutchy puts pants back on
[04:53:55] <crutchy> i didn't think you could do a pull request with no description
[04:54:02] <crutchy> hmm not that i would know
[04:58:22] <arti> spalls, singular.
[04:59:02] <arti> mehrzahl nicht einzahl :D
[04:59:11] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, I have no pant :)
[04:59:34] <arti> singular pair ^_~
[04:59:48] <SpallsHurgenson> I have no pa?
[05:00:05] <arti> pear.
[05:00:19] <SpallsHurgenson> you keep fruit in your trousers?
[05:00:54] <SpallsHurgenson> I thought I was the only one who did that
[05:01:26] <arti> they don't call it plucking fruit for nothin
[05:01:35] <arti> https://www.youtube.com
[05:01:37] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Lars Andersen: a new level of archery - YouTube
[05:01:44] <arti> disregard the t=39 :/
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[05:10:10] * Konomi pasted that yesterday \o/
[05:10:51] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, hang your head in shame, arti! :)
[05:11:42] * crutchy just dropped his guts
[05:13:00] <SpallsHurgenson> it's a bit early in the day for seppuku
[05:13:13] <arti> oh neato, didn't see it.
[05:13:18] <crutchy> ~define seppuku
[05:13:21] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Seppuku: Ritual suicide by disembowelment carried out by samurai. Literally means "stomach cutting." The samurai committing seppuku would shove a dagger such as a tanto into their stomach while anoth...
[05:13:33] <crutchy> oh my
[05:13:43] <arti> "whelp, i'm out"
[05:13:53] <arti> one way to get out of your share of the dinner bill.
[05:14:04] <arti> or maybe escaping a reality, like inception
[05:14:12] <arti> HNNNGGGGGGGgggggguh
[05:14:24] <crutchy> "my religion forbids paying for food"
[05:14:35] <arti> "my religion forbids life"
[05:15:20] <SpallsHurgenson> my religion forbids religion forbidding stuff
[05:16:41] <crutchy> ~shorten https://github.com
[05:16:42] <exec> http://z.cr.rs
[05:17:07] <SpallsHurgenson> still too long!
[05:17:27] <crutchy> yeah i reckon
[05:17:53] <crutchy> need to use hidden unicode characters
[05:18:42] <crutchy> its that infernal http:// thing
[05:18:47] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com kitties!
[05:18:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Dear Kitten: Regarding The Big Game - YouTube
[05:41:38] <crutchy> changed it to http://o.my.to
[05:41:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03o.my.to
[05:41:48] <crutchy> little bit easier to remember
[05:46:04] <crutchy> how do we do user tags again? ima gunna try one
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[06:53:29] <crutchy> http://cdn2.carlcheo.com
[06:54:06] <crutchy> i like the php description; "still dominates the middle earth" ftw!
[06:54:57] <crutchy> pascal didn't get a look-in :(
[06:57:13] <juggs> so sad
[06:59:09] <crutchy> delphi is so beginner-friendly too
[06:59:20] <crutchy> pornoland delphi :d
[07:00:00] <crutchy> gosh i wonder why perl wasn't mentioned in a chart about learning to program
[07:01:00] <crutchy> perl would be gollum
[07:01:15] <crutchy> the fucking weirdo language :d
[07:01:54] <juggs> don't be cruel :D
[07:02:16] <crutchy> i dunno if i would recommend python as a first language. it has the worst syntax
[07:04:35] <crutchy> how you been juggs?
[07:04:55] <juggs> eh - fine I guess. Yourself?
[07:05:56] <crutchy> i remembered i got a day off tomorrow, so i'm a bit happier than i was before i remembered
[07:06:05] <crutchy> straya day :)
[07:09:36] <juggs> what's the plan?
[07:09:48] <crutchy> sleep in :D
[07:09:59] <juggs> good start
[07:10:36] <crutchy> coffee++
[07:10:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 1000
[07:10:41] <crutchy> o.0
[07:11:51] <juggs> Uh-oh..... that may not be a good omen
[07:12:06] <crutchy> [[Issues to Be Raised at the Next Board Meeting|Next meeting]]
[07:12:08] <exec> 13Time: Wednesday October 29th at 1:15am UTC (Tuesday October 28th at 9:15pm EDT) Place: irc.sylnt.us:6667/6697#staff (Webchat) Chair: To Be Determined
[07:12:08] <exec> 13http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/Issues_to_Be_Raised_at_the_Next_Board_Meeting#Next_meeting
[07:12:31] <crutchy> heh. i forgot about that feature
[07:12:48] * crutchy is going through a few aliases
[07:14:29] <crutchy> i prolly should update some things on exec's wiki page. been a few changes
[07:17:19] <juggs> I'd forgotten about that too
[07:22:10] <crutchy> coffee-- # to keep it out of harms way
[07:22:10] <Bender> karma - tea: 373
[07:22:16] <crutchy> :D
[07:22:21] <juggs> :D unlucky
[07:22:30] <crutchy> forgot about that 'feature' too
[07:23:51] <crutchy> i sort of finished my little url shortener. might have a crack at a pastebin
[07:24:30] <juggs> a pastebin written in pascal?
[07:24:41] <crutchy> php
[07:24:55] <crutchy> not gunna bother with syntax highlighting though
[07:25:10] <crutchy> just gunna keep it simple
[07:25:39] <crutchy> want to add a cli thing like http://ix.io
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[07:26:50] <Ironic_Hipster> 'sup\
[07:26:55] <Ironic_Hipster> Jesus Imn drink
[07:27:11] <crutchy> aye focker!
[07:27:15] <Ironic_Hipster> crutch-dag
[07:27:21] <chromas> crutchy: also sprunge.us
[07:27:47] <Ironic_Hipster> sup chromas
[07:27:58] <crutchy> just gotta figure out how i gunna separate shortened urls from pastes
[07:28:15] <chromas> hey Senor Extension
[07:28:17] <Ironic_Hipster> crutchy - by checking for a shortened URL
[07:28:25] <Ironic_Hipster> chromas, I just got a BLACK extension.
[07:28:25] <chromas> :( no compose key in lxqt
[07:28:32] <crutchy> hmm shortened urls are all lowercase letters. i'll make pastes in uppercase :D
[07:28:34] <chromas> now /that/ is ironic
[07:28:36] <Ironic_Hipster> "cinnamon" colored
[07:29:21] <crutchy> Ironic_Hipster, dude you sure you didn't just spill soy sauce on it?
[07:29:34] <chromas> put your black fly in her chardonnay
[07:29:55] <Ironic_Hipster> crutchy, my girlfriend didn't want to use any extenders I had alraedy used iwth other wimen so she mad me gyy another one
[07:30:07] <crutchy> noice :D
[07:30:14] <Ironic_Hipster> the only 2-incher they had was the skin tone of b**** d***
[07:30:24] <chromas> now she knows you're committed :D
[07:30:47] <chromas> Ironic_Hipster: s/b/n/
[07:30:48] <SedNotABot> <chromas> <Ironic_Hipster> the only 2-incher they had was the skin tone of n**** d***
[07:30:58] <Ironic_Hipster> do ho HO!
[07:31:53] <crutchy> a fooly sick sub boofer
[07:33:16] <crutchy> wtf? http://www.urbandictionary.com
[07:33:16] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Urban Dictionary: boof
[07:35:28] <Ironic_Hipster> crutchy, so that is a GET?
[07:35:40] <Ironic_Hipster> a get request
[07:36:03] <Ironic_Hipster> we just did GET and POST, we're doing sessions this week.
[07:36:10] <crutchy> ah
[07:36:20] * crutchy shudders @ sessions
[07:36:52] <crutchy> get is in the url. post is hidden away in your back door :D
[07:37:40] <Ironic_Hipster> I should be reading up on sessions and installing myphpadmin, but instead i'm boning and drinking.
[07:37:54] <crutchy> you chose wisely
[07:38:10] <Ironic_Hipster> Thank you, sir gallahad.
[07:38:17] <crutchy> :D
[07:38:59] <crutchy> drink from the double-d cups of life
[07:39:26] <Ironic_Hipster> Girlfriend has like G-cups. She's passed out in my bed right now.
[07:39:58] <crutchy> haha we have similar taste in titties
[07:40:12] <Ironic_Hipster> I've always been about the big 'uns
[07:42:22] <crutchy> aw fuck yeah. http://www.wired.com
[07:42:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Leatherman's New Wearable Tech Can Repair Your Wearable Tech | WIRED
[07:42:32] <crutchy> leatherman++
[07:42:32] <Bender> karma - leatherman: 1
[07:43:01] <crutchy> finally an excuse to wear tool steel :D
[07:44:03] <crutchy> hmm "metal-injected molded 17-4 stainless steel"
[07:44:10] <crutchy> not familiar with that grade
[07:44:39] <crutchy> doesn't sound like a stainless grade, but meh. looks fekin cool
[07:44:56] <Ironic_Hipster> lol "metal-injected molded"
[07:44:56] <ciri> hehehe
[07:45:01] <Ironic_Hipster> aka die-cast
[07:45:11] <crutchy> prolly
[07:45:23] <Ironic_Hipster> hahahahahahh
[07:45:44] <crutchy> dunno if cast stainless would hold up well for tools
[07:45:47] <Ironic_Hipster> those stupid dumb-fucks. They should hire the guy who wrote the slogan, "soup is good food"
[07:46:03] * crutchy wonders if wired got their wires crossed
[07:46:12] <Ironic_Hipster> crutchy, wired sucks ass.
[07:46:25] <Ironic_Hipster> teh print version is all ads and product placement articles.
[07:47:00] <Ironic_Hipster> "gee, speaking of heat-transfer, I was using a Global brand knife and a Cast-on brand cast-iron skillet to make my steaks..."
[07:47:15] <ar> leatherman++
[07:47:15] <Bender> karma - leatherman: 2
[07:47:23] <Ironic_Hipster> not even worthy of bathroom reading. My calculus text replaced Wired as my toilet read.
[07:47:34] <ar> i have a wave and it's awesome.
[07:47:53] <chromas> ar: s/a/google/2
[07:47:53] <SedNotABot> <chromas> <ar> i have google wave and it's awesome.
[07:48:08] <ar> hehe
[07:48:27] <chromas> also logitech wave keyboard
[07:48:57] <Ironic_Hipster> the finger wave when the doctor checks your prostate by STICKING HIS FINGER UP YOUR ASSHOLE
[07:49:17] <crutchy> they should make a watch out of this shit: http://www.interlloy.com.au
[07:49:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03S7 Shock Resisting Tool Steel | Interlloy | Engineering Steels + Alloys
[07:49:57] <crutchy> machine the fucker :d
[07:50:40] <Ironic_Hipster> hell yeah crutchy
[07:50:49] <Ironic_Hipster> roll that shit from a solid billet
[07:51:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Barrett Brown Sentenced to 5 Years in Prison for 'Re-Sharing Link to Hacked Material' - http://sylnt.us - it's-nice-to-share
[08:09:43] <crutchy> dammit. now i want one: http://www.wired.com
[08:10:58] <ar> hehe
[08:11:00] <ar> yeah
[08:11:09] <Ironic_Hipster> Watches are for absent-mindeds.
[08:11:12] <ar> i just wonder if it's going to be allowed on planes
[08:11:36] <Ironic_Hipster> mmm, a woman's intimate smell on your fingers.
[08:12:21] <crutchy> leatherman is as blokey as akubra or drizabone
[08:12:27] <crutchy> in straya anyway
[08:23:33] <Ironic_Hipster> crutchy, you're all blokey
[08:24:10] <crutchy> only if i get one of those watches. otherwise i'm just a geeky fag
[08:24:41] <crutchy> i used to have a drizabone. damn good coats
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[08:44:34] <Ironic_Hipster> https://www.youtube.com
[08:44:35] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me ( Weird David Bowie ) - YouTube
[08:44:39] <Ironic_Hipster> HAHAHHHEEHEEHOOO!
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[09:11:45] <crutchy> holy shit dude. https://www.youtube.com
[09:11:46] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Lars Andersen: a new level of archery - YouTube
[09:11:59] <crutchy> has this already been linked a few times here?
[09:12:53] <crutchy> splitting an arrow being fired at you with one of your own eh
[09:13:42] <crutchy> Bruce Schneier just hashes the arrow and the shooter using sha1e12
[09:14:55] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[09:14:56] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0318. Sengoku Chihiro (29-sai to 27-kagetsu) - YouTube
[09:15:07] <crutchy> dunno about the caption, but the music is nice
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[09:52:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Global Warming is Bad for Aviation - http://sylnt.us - there-are-no-birds-in-the-tropics
[09:53:24] <juggs> hmm... how did sunday creep up on me :/
[09:55:03] <crutchy> ~time juggs
[09:55:05] <exec> Sunday, 25 January 2015 @ 9:55 am GMT - London, UK
[09:55:12] <crutchy> :)
[09:55:18] <crutchy> ~time
[09:55:20] <exec> Sunday, 25 January 2015 @ 8:55 pm GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[09:55:20] <juggs> ~weather juggs
[09:55:22] <exec> Weather for London, UK - currently 39°F / 4°C, mostly cloudy, wind W at 5 mph, humidity 84% - Sunday partly cloudy (42°F-49°F / 6°C-9°C), Monday chance of rain (36°F-49°F / 2°C-9°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (39°F-48°F / 4°C-9°C), Wednesday chance of rain (36°F-51°F / 2°C-11°C) - source: Google
[09:55:26] <crutchy> kids in bed here
[09:55:39] <juggs> early night
[09:55:49] <crutchy> nah. still young
[09:56:01] <juggs> gives you some peace and quiet
[09:56:06] <crutchy> that too
[09:56:08] <crutchy> :d
[09:57:23] <crutchy> i don't do css enuff. keep forgetting basic stuff like position modes
[09:58:13] <juggs> blergh, not touched css for years. Had hours of fun trying to get divs to float to the right places across the different browsers at the time. Hopefully things have improved these days
[10:00:39] <chromas> they almost all use webkit now
[10:01:04] <chromas> !word
[10:01:04] <ciri> Unscramble ---> 6 rcymure
[10:01:19] <ciri> Clue --->12 chemical
[10:01:34] <ciri> First letter --->12 m
[10:01:49] <ciri> First two letters --->12 me
[10:02:01] <juggs> mercury
[10:02:02] <ciri> Woohoo juggs!! You got it...4mercury
[10:02:59] <chromas> ciri didn't get confused at the end. maybe 'cause this channel has letters in it
[10:03:23] <juggs> eh?
[10:04:02] <chromas> usually it congratulates you on your first win. every time
[10:04:14] <chromas> at least, in #
[10:04:28] <chromas> the # probably confuzzels it
[10:04:59] <crutchy> ciri is outta control there though. what with its rambling about masturbation poop slinging and whatnot
[10:05:16] <chromas> yeah, what a nut
[10:05:26] <chromas> who's been teaching it, anyhow?
[10:05:30] <crutchy> paulej72 is a bad influence
[10:05:45] <crutchy> ciri has a young fragile mind
[10:05:49] <juggs> !word
[10:05:54] <juggs> boo
[10:06:09] <chromas> !word
[10:06:09] <ciri> Unscramble ---> 6 iqtosiinacu
[10:06:16] <chromas> weird
[10:06:24] <ciri> Clue --->12 acquirement
[10:06:28] <crutchy> chromas, ciri is your bitch now :d
[10:06:39] <ciri> First letter --->12 a
[10:06:40] <chromas> acquisitional
[10:06:54] <crutchy> grope
[10:06:55] <ciri> First two letters --->12 ac
[10:06:59] <juggs> acquisition
[10:06:59] <ciri> Woohoo juggs!! You got it...4acquisition
[10:07:11] <chromas> was sure I saw an l in there
[10:07:22] <juggs> :P
[10:07:27] <crutchy> the bewbs were clouding your judgement
[10:14:25] <juggs> tea++
[10:14:25] <Bender> karma - tea: 374
[10:16:00] <crutchy> hmm. think i've found a css workaround
[10:18:58] <juggs> what's the problem?
[10:22:54] <crutchy> wifi is slow tonight :/
[10:23:13] <crutchy> oh i'm trying to make a textarea fill half the page
[10:23:45] <juggs> sounds simple :D But nothing that sounds simple ever is
[10:23:51] <juggs> Is this for your pastebin thing?
[10:24:03] <crutchy> yeah. i'm just being lazy and retarded :d
[10:24:44] <crutchy> yup
[10:24:44] <chromas> would width: 50% work?
[10:24:51] <crutchy> not on its own
[10:25:21] <crutchy> i did it for my work wiki, but the css for that is huge and complicated
[10:25:52] <juggs> Quirks mode or standard compliant with a correct doc type declared?
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[10:25:58] <crutchy> the textarea for it just has width: 100%; and the containing element css sorts out margins etc
[10:26:09] <crutchy> doctype is just html
[10:26:12] <crutchy> (html5)
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[10:26:39] <crutchy> http://paste.my.to
[10:26:40] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03paste.my.to
[10:27:33] * crutchy ssh's into server to look at why paste isn't being saved
[10:27:38] <juggs> stick it in a div and use width: 50; or height: 50%; in the css I'd guess at :D
[10:27:55] <juggs> s/50/50%/
[10:27:55] <SedNotABot> <juggs> stick it in a div and use width: 50%; or height: 50%; in the css I'd guess at :D
[10:28:17] <crutchy> i tried a div. i think you're right though. i'm just being lazy
[10:28:49] <crutchy> i'll get it functioning and then maybe muck around some more with the css if i can be f'ed
[10:29:16] <juggs> make body and html 100%, then use 50% on the div. Otherwise the div will scale to 50% of the size of its contents. I think....
[10:29:40] <crutchy> there's a whole bunch of prep at html level etc that i haven't done too
[10:29:59] <KonomiNetbook> paste.my.toe
[10:30:01] <juggs> interesting project
[10:30:16] * juggs pastes KonomiNetbook's toe into his scrapbook
[10:30:29] <crutchy> i was gunna make it do uppercase id's for o.my.to
[10:30:55] <crutchy> but i thought i'd chuck it on another subdomain. they're all freebies anyway
[10:31:27] <KonomiNetbook> unknown query: aa
[10:31:33] <KonomiNetbook> I approve of this service
[10:31:36] <crutchy> lol
[10:31:37] <ciri> hahaha
[10:31:57] <juggs> freebie domains?
[10:32:21] <crutchy> http://freedns.afraid.org
[10:32:21] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03FreeDNS - Free DNS - Dynamic DNS - Static DNS subdomain and domain hosting
[10:32:33] <KonomiNetbook> maybe it was because I was trying to paste "Crutchy is a communist"
[10:32:57] <crutchy> haha. nope its just cos i'm a spaz and haven't got it working proper yet
[10:41:15] <crutchy> seems to be working now
[10:41:40] <crutchy> http://paste.my.to
[10:42:10] <crutchy> should be able to curl to it too
[10:42:28] <crutchy> just make a post field called 'content'
[10:42:58] <crutchy> not sure how to do that with curl :/
[10:44:16] <juggs> just contains the word "test" for me :/
[10:44:44] <crutchy> that was my first paste :D
[10:44:55] <juggs> D'oh... ignore me - tea hasn;t taken hold yet
[10:45:23] * juggs attempts to overflow the pastey!
[10:46:17] <juggs> http://paste.my.to teehe
[10:46:24] <crutchy> haha yeah you could i guess
[10:47:25] <crutchy> ~eval curl -F 'content=blah blah blah' http://paste.my.to
[10:47:27] <exec> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
[10:47:27] <exec> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
[10:47:48] <crutchy> derp
[10:51:13] <crutchy> put a 2048 byte limit
[10:51:34] <crutchy> not sure if that's high enough for most things but meh it's a start
[10:52:08] <chromas> =stuff-crutchy's-hdd-with-millions-of-pastes
[10:52:39] <crutchy> haha. only holds about 700 odd cos it does the rollover thing like the url shortener :d
[10:53:08] <chromas> the urls don't just get longer?
[10:53:20] <chromas> do pasticles expire?
[10:55:55] <juggs> goes aa to zz then rolls back to aa (overwriting it)
[10:59:58] <chromas> that doesn't sound right. they need a uuid. a sha512 :D
[11:13:06] <chromas> installed linux on a dell c650; nic is named enp0s16f0
[11:13:55] <chromas> soon they'll have to word-wrap the adapter names
[11:22:19] <juggs> it's not that long really
[11:23:24] <chromas> almost twice as long as on others I've seen, which is still longer than the classic eth0
[11:23:54] <juggs> is it a wireless nic?
[11:24:10] <chromas> nope
[11:24:20] <chromas> but it is somewhat ancient. it came with win2k
[11:24:33] <juggs> weird still rolling with eth0 and wlan0 here. what distro?
[11:24:42] <chromas> arch
[11:24:51] <chromas> it's a systemd thing I guess. it's adjustable though
[11:25:00] <Konomi> what's wrong?
[11:25:03] <chromas> it's part of their 'generate a name that never changes' thing
[11:25:21] <Konomi> that hasn't changed
[11:25:21] <juggs> like uuid for partitions
[11:25:23] <chromas> oh, I'm just whining about the ever lengthening nic adapter names
[11:25:30] <Konomi> at least if you are on debian ithasn't
[11:26:55] <Konomi> sec need to find the docs
[11:27:11] <chromas> adapters could have uuids too. they could put them into /dev where they belong
[11:27:28] <Konomi> edit this file
[11:27:29] <Konomi> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[11:28:05] <Konomi> note the text in it
[11:28:21] <chromas> I'll go look it up. mine has no files
[11:28:26] <Konomi> NAME=""
[11:28:35] <Konomi> what distro?
[11:28:40] <juggs> arch
[11:28:57] <chromas> I'm probably supposed to write it myself :)
[11:28:59] <juggs> maybe doesn't have udev :D
[11:29:00] <chromas> i'm on the wiki now
[11:29:10] <Konomi> https://wiki.archlinux.org
[11:29:12] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Network configuration
[11:29:50] <Konomi> you check the rules already and just make sure they don't use 70-persistent-net.rules
[11:29:57] <Konomi> you should*
[11:32:22] <chromas> heh, "don't use names like eth0 'cause udev and the kernel will fight over it"
[11:32:36] <Konomi> sounds like crap do it
[11:32:37] <Konomi> ;p
[11:33:16] <Konomi> http://www.freedesktop.org
[11:33:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
[11:33:20] <Konomi> see bottom
[11:33:31] <Konomi> they say not to even though the systemd docs show how to do it easily
[11:34:14] <chromas> predictablenetworkinterfacenames-- # for using stupid values
[11:34:14] <Bender> karma - predictablenetworkinterfacenames: -1
[11:35:25] <chromas> thanks for the linnkage, btw
[11:35:42] <chromas> now what am I supposed to bitch about?
[11:36:15] <Konomi> editing text files
[11:38:37] <chromas> oh yeah
[11:40:05] <chromas> I wonder if I can do 0-persistent-net-rules
[11:41:43] <Konomi> I'd use 70 like debian does just in cases
[11:50:29] <Konomi> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org
[11:50:30] <Hedonismbot> ^ 037.13.Configuring the network Script
[11:50:34] <Konomi> might also be useful
[11:57:39] <chromas> weird. if I set the login shell to /bin/fish it always says the login is incorrect. i have to use /usr/bin/fish (/bin and /usr/bin are the same on arch)
[11:57:56] <chromas> computers are weird and hard
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[12:14:16] <juggs> I think I overdid the chili in my soup..... my head's sweating :/
[12:20:28] <chromas> juggs's special duvet soup
[12:20:46] <chromas> keeps you warm on the inside
[12:21:13] <juggs> tis could for a chilly january day. thick soup and crispy bread :)
[12:21:20] <juggs> s/could/good/
[12:21:20] <SedNotABot> <juggs> tis good for a chilly january day. thick soup and crispy bread :)
[12:24:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It’s Time to Fix America’s Infrastructure — Here’s Where to Start - http://sylnt.us - keeping-up-is-hard-to-do
[12:25:13] <crutchy> kokoda is a really good movie
[12:25:30] <crutchy> it was much more shocking at the cinema though
[12:26:06] <chromas> the ticket price is what made it so good
[12:29:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, didn't i already give you the kernel parameter to turn off those fucked up nic names?
[12:29:57] <crutchy> that was to the other chromas
[12:30:04] <crutchy> the evil one :d
[12:31:06] <chromas> yeah, that's it. the evil one
[12:31:54] <crutchy> but its ok now cos the good chromas squashed the evil chromas with a giant cupcake
[12:33:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a shame, goatees are cool
[12:33:45] <chromas> opposite of a neckbeard
[12:36:54] <chromas> hmm. I don't have multiple virtual terminals. I must've broken all kinds of things
[12:37:41] <juggs> good way to learn how shit works :)
[12:38:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, you got the site update post ready to go for tonight?
[12:38:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> well early tomorrow morning for you i spose.
[12:39:21] <juggs> uhhh.... oh yes, that's well on the way. (completely forgot). I'll put something together :)
[12:41:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey dokey. toss me n pj a copy so's we can double check and make sure we aren't advertising something not yet done if ya would.
[12:41:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> upgrade is planned for 10pm EST, so 3am for you silly tea-sippers
[12:42:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> plenty of time
[12:42:36] <juggs> just need to find that changelog list you did for me :/
[12:44:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> subject is changelog
[12:45:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> can double check and resend if ya like.
[12:45:27] <juggs> oh shit yeh - you mailed it. Thought you pastad it in irc
[12:45:33] <juggs> memory corruption!
[12:46:21] <juggs> I got it. Thanks.
[12:46:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:46:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> next round i swear i will finally fix rss/atom feeds
[12:46:58] <juggs> wow - that was 3 weeks ago... time flies
[12:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we might as well call this the 15.02 update at this point.
[12:47:51] <juggs> nah - it's still 01 :)
[12:48:23] <chromas> 01b
[12:49:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> 15.01.75
[12:50:19] <juggs> depends how you are doing the rounding I guess :D
[12:50:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> with a chainsaw.
[12:51:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> murican. everything should involve explosives, guns, or at least power tools whenever possible.
[12:52:45] <chromas> and beer
[12:53:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, pretty much goes without saying
[12:53:12] <chromas> beer_and_chainsaws++
[12:53:12] <Bender> karma - beer_and_chainsaws: 1
[12:54:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you we don't like our beer quite as much as say soccer firms
[12:56:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, api is on hold, so nuke that line unless you want to mention it's on dev for further testing.
[12:57:13] <juggs> Yah, I'll mention it. Al I right in thinking this is all your dev work, or did pj contribute some of it?
[12:57:19] <juggs> Am*
[12:59:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, all the pull requests were mine but pj did the sanity checking on and fixed a few bugs in them.
[13:00:06] <juggs> and marty doing testing/QA of course :D
[13:00:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> and a few spots where i'd just lost my damned fool mind.
[13:00:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[13:00:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> as always
[13:00:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> martyb mind you
[13:00:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't forget the b
[13:00:36] <juggs> nod nod
[13:01:15] <juggs> when was our last release? 14.08? 14.06?
[13:01:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> .10
[13:01:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're only 1.75 months behind
[13:02:27] <juggs> Better late than shite :D
[13:02:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of the work went into filters. was a surprisingly large amount of time needed to unfuck the way things were done.
[13:03:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, holidays and a new semester rush for pj were the main hangups.
[13:03:57] <chromas> 12.01.75 unfucked unicorn
[13:04:01] <chromas> ubuntu style
[13:04:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go, cept 15.01.75
[13:05:03] <chromas> yeah, I was only looking at it while I was typing it :D
[13:07:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... got a dinner to go to today (prolly 6-8:30), upgrade at 9 CST, and nothing much until then
[13:08:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i could prolly wrangle taking my nephews fishing for a couple hours.
[13:10:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ewww, fishing's supposed to be absolute shit today.
[13:20:07] <juggs> shame
[13:25:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, really is. fancy-schmancy fishing conditions calculator says we're dead suck from 9am to 2am
[13:25:37] <juggs> perhaps some hacking and slashing gaming is called for :D
[13:29:16] <chromas> Microsoft Fishing Simulator 2015
[13:29:29] <juggs> I like that you've included html markup in your changes TheMightyBuzzard - makes my job a doddle :D
[13:29:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> figured it might
[13:29:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, feelin the baddie chopping urge
[13:29:58] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:29:58] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 132
[13:33:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, decisions decisions... should i bother having all the friends n family that against my advice went and got windows 8 upgrade to 10 for free or let them be?
[13:34:04] <juggs> Would probably get them a longer support window if nothing else of use
[13:35:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> true true. really wish i knew some who were still on 7. would make me feel better about the intelligence of the people i hang out with/am related to.
[13:37:11] <juggs> most people really do not care. they'll just use whatever their 'puter device comes pre-installed with. If it does what they want, is it really unintelligent of them not to bother exploring alternatives?
[13:38:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, they didn't care right up until i got a wave of calls saying WTF?! where is the start menu? How do I close something that went fullscreen with no close button?
[13:38:57] <juggs> HA! Had a flurry of those myself. Along with the WTF?! How do I Shut Down??
[13:39:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup.
[13:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> it woulda made sense to fork out the touch interface to everything if you specifically excluded desktops. nobody, and i mean nobody, wants that shit on a desktop.
[13:40:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> laptops of the non-touch variety being counted as desktops for these purposes.
[13:43:05] <juggs> I've tried laptops with touch - it makes absolutely no frickin sense. Finger smears on the screen, moving hands from trackpad to k/b to poking the screen and back and forth is just really weird.
[13:43:34] <juggs> But that's probably just me being set in my ways :D
[13:43:37] <Konomi> makes more sense if you can flip the screen around like on a lot of tablet laptops
[13:43:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i don't even use my laptop as anything but an ebook reader and secondary irc box.
[13:43:57] <Konomi> I hack the planet with my netbook ofc
[13:43:59] * TheMightyBuzzard points at TheMightyLaptop
[13:44:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> not just the gibson?
[13:44:19] <juggs> yah, fliptops make sense as they become more of a large tablet
[13:44:22] <Konomi> juggs: definitly agree if they don't flip around though
[13:44:37] <crutchy> hahaha. why the fuck am i reading youtube comments?
[13:44:40] <crutchy> Roses are grey
[13:44:40] <crutchy> Violets are grey
[13:44:40] <crutchy> Everything is grey
[13:44:40] <crutchy> I'm a fucking dog
[13:44:47] <Konomi> are you nuts man
[13:44:59] * TheMightyBuzzard feels the need to hack a gibson today
[13:45:01] <juggs> you'll go blind doing that!
[13:45:08] <Konomi> https://chrome.google.com
[13:45:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Herp Derp for YouTube™ - Chrome Web Store
[13:45:11] <Konomi> \o/
[13:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> spose i could hand-wind a pickup on a gibson. that would count as a hack.
[13:46:55] <crutchy> wow! does the herp-a-derp thingy come in firefox flavour too!?
[13:47:14] <Konomi> about time
[13:47:28] <juggs> hack together some kind of effects pedal box
[13:47:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> for some reason people dig on hand-wound pickups on their guitars. i do not understand it; machine-wound gives predictable results.
[13:47:59] <Konomi> pft what is life without predictablity
[13:48:07] <Konomi> got that backwards oh well ;p
[13:48:18] * Konomi runs off to hide
[13:48:28] <crutchy> imperfections are art
[13:48:38] <crutchy> or some shit
[13:48:40] <Konomi> like the pimples on old guys butts
[13:48:43] <Konomi> nograb
[13:48:43] <Konomi> ;p
[13:48:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, my code is so art then.
[13:48:57] <crutchy> my snot is art
[13:48:57] <Konomi> your code is perl it's definitly abstract art
[13:49:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff
[13:49:26] <Konomi> even if people can't figure out the abstract at all
[13:49:27] <Konomi> ;p
[13:49:41] <Konomi> and php would just be canons loaded with paint
[13:49:44] * Konomi runs
[13:50:38] * crutchy concurs with Konomi's assessment
[13:50:59] <Konomi> just load and fire!
[13:51:05] <Konomi> what do you mean where is the database?
[13:51:10] <Konomi> there was a database in there!?
[13:51:21] <crutchy> or it could be like the mythbusters paint bomb that they tried to paint a room with
[13:51:25] * Konomi fires more paint
[13:52:22] <crutchy> while (true) echo "pew!";
[13:55:24] <crutchy> 1am. time for shuteye. at least i get to sleep in tomorrow :D
[13:55:29] <crutchy> ciao
[13:55:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> time for a coffee refill and some baddie choppin here. nite crutchy
[13:55:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> laptop will stick around for me.
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[14:13:34] <juggs> TheMightyLaptop, that -10 to karma for the Spam mod - remind me is that -10 to the Moderator's or Moderatee's karma?
[14:13:48] <TheMightyLaptop> to the spammer
[14:13:53] <juggs> ty
[14:13:57] <TheMightyLaptop> nod nod
[14:22:47] <paulej72> good morning all
[14:26:54] <TheMightyLaptop> mornin yo
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[14:40:04] <juggs> Hmm... how do I edit part of a submission into the Extended Copy field? Does the sub need to be accepted first?
[14:41:14] <TheMightyLaptop> um, i dunno. not an editor.
[14:42:25] <TheMightyLaptop> should be just part of editing though. preview should do it.
[14:43:49] <juggs> https://soylentnews.org
[14:43:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0304SN Submission by juggs: SoylentNews Site Update 15.01
[14:44:49] <juggs> Trying to split it at the "More details after the break...." - when I look at posted articles with that, the after the break bit is in the Extended Copy box, I have no Extended Copy box on this at the moment.
[14:44:59] <juggs> Lacking editor-fu also :D
[14:47:57] <TheMightyLaptop> reading
[14:48:16] <juggs> It's mostly your list with some fluff at the top :D
[14:48:43] <TheMightyLaptop> you go in as an editor and hit preview then you should get a below the fold box on admin.pl
[14:49:21] <TheMightyLaptop> oh, one change
[14:49:33] <TheMightyLaptop> @uid: needs to be @#uid:
[14:49:58] <juggs> OK - I'll fix that. And see the Extended Copy box now :D
[14:49:59] <juggs> ty
[14:50:47] <TheMightyLaptop> cheers
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[14:51:57] <juggs> interesting what slash does to submitted <p> html markup :D
[14:51:57] <TheMightyLaptop> feelin like i might actually eat breakfast today
[14:52:07] <TheMightyLaptop> is it?
[14:52:22] <TheMightyLaptop> never really used the editing end of things
[14:54:12] <juggs> Yah - I sub'd with a load of <p></p>. Editing the sub now, they all seem to have gone and things are marked up with <br><br>
[14:54:24] <TheMightyLaptop> yeesh
[14:54:29] <juggs> No bother - displays right
[14:54:41] <TheMightyLaptop> never argue with success
[14:55:18] <juggs> Eep - it seems to already have a release time on it :/
[14:55:33] <TheMightyLaptop> change it =P
[14:56:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IRS Giveaway:Tax-Filing Software - http://sylnt.us - you-must-enter-all-numbers-in-hex
[14:56:26] <TheMightyLaptop> i'd say it can go out any time today though since it reads like a pre-upgrade announcement
[14:57:16] <juggs> I'm trying to find where I would change it :D Doesn't really matter when it goes out as you say. Just thought it should probably have an editor cast an approval over it :D
[14:58:48] <juggs> Ahh - found it
[14:58:50] <TheMightyLaptop> pffft, you're the poobah in chief.
[15:01:00] <TheMightyLaptop> going to step in the kitchen and see if anything strikes me as needing to be eaten
[15:02:31] <juggs> Hmm... has no "author".... oh well :D
[15:17:24] <paulej72> I plan on fixing that stripping of <p>’s on subs
[15:18:10] <juggs> Seems to display OK as it is. Whatever works :D
[15:18:52] <paulej72> would rater it changed everything to <p> tags even for plain text. In this case I think we should store the correted version in hte database since it will undergo futher processing by the editors and should be in a better format
[15:25:33] <paulej72> OK made a few changes to the vt100 theme to make the admin pages not suck so much
[15:26:13] <juggs> Thanks :)
[15:26:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SoylentNews Site Update 15.01 - http://sylnt.us - hope-nothing-explodes
[15:30:10] <TheMightyLaptop> paulej72, cheers. figured there were still a few tweaks that could stand to be done. not really an artist, me.
[15:31:33] <juggs> That may well become my default theme. Especially for evening / night viewing :)
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[16:47:51] <TheMightyLaptop> !uid
[16:47:51] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5026, owned by atokar
[16:51:56] <SirFinkus> congrats on the site update, anything blow up?
[16:52:32] <TheMightyLaptop> not going live until 3am GMT (10pm EST)
[16:52:54] <TheMightyLaptop> but nothing on dev blew up yet and it's running the same code.
[16:55:35] <SirFinkus> oh, thought it had already been deployed
[17:14:02] <juggs> I broke tradition by pre-announcing it I think :)
[17:14:35] <TheMightyLaptop> s'all good. i think i like it better that way.
[17:15:25] <TheMightyLaptop> give folks a heads up before they get 503s and all.
[17:19:52] <juggs> Thanks for fielding those comments TheMightyLaptop :)
[17:23:49] <TheMightyLaptop> np, i prefer to answer for stuff what's done by my hand.
[17:25:03] <SirFinkus> I remember when I was a kid 403s scared the fuck out of me
[17:25:17] <SirFinkus> along with "illegal operations" that windows used to have
[17:25:31] <SirFinkus> I thought the fbi was going to show up
[17:26:27] <SirFinkus> because I was playing bootleg Roller Coaster Tycoon or something
[17:28:18] <TheMightyLaptop> heh, i member that
[17:29:24] <SirFinkus> error messages used to be a lot scarier
[17:29:52] <SirFinkus> now the trend is "Oops! there was a problem :(" which drives me nuts
[17:30:19] <SirFinkus> I appreciate that 99% of people don't read error messages, but give me SOMETHING to work with if I'm in the 1% that does
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[17:45:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> done hacking up baddies for the day
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[17:51:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like interesting vhosts
[17:53:24] <juggs> definitely need more of those around :)
[17:53:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> crying shame i felt the need to go with the status quo for mine
[17:54:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> at least botctl gets to use my old one
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[17:57:27] <juggs> could always change your up. Fairly sure the channel access stuff is done on group membership
[18:00:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> think so too but i can't think of a better one at the moment.
[18:01:49] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[18:04:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hate it when a site that isn't us runs some cock-n-bull story about diversity in tech. everyone else cept techdirt makes it hard to comment, hard to not get censored, or is on the list of sites i shall not visit.
[18:06:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> organic diversity i got not a thing in the world against. artificial diversity is bullshit and some sort of -ism though.
[18:08:47] <SirFinkus> I can't see a way that stopping discussion on the matter could in any way be good for the "diversity" movement
[18:09:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, SJWs are for every kind of diversity except Intellectual Diversity.
[18:09:34] <SirFinkus> I've been more convinced by positions that stand up under and invite scrutiny
[18:11:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Nod nod. Arguments are how I either change or polish my position.
[18:11:58] <SirFinkus> in fact, people who try to avoid debate and public comment on their positions throw off my bullshit meter
[18:12:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> as well they should. if they're not full of shit, they should welcome the chance to prove their point.
[18:13:25] <juggs> some people really don't take kindly to having their opinions questioned
[18:13:50] <SirFinkus> nobody takes kindly to it, it's pretty deep in the brain to "hurt" when you hear dissenting opinions
[18:14:01] <SirFinkus> it's actually pretty tough to get out of that bubble
[18:14:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, takes character
[18:15:28] <SirFinkus> part of the problem in the US is the media, all these "debate" shows
[18:15:48] <SirFinkus> they'll give 4 guys 10 minutes to talk over each other about some kind of nuanced issue
[18:16:18] <SirFinkus> so people watch this junk food and think they're well informed, academic debates are much better
[18:18:25] <juggs> ha - apparently for the next election here we are going to be "treated" to TV debates with 7 different party representatives present. In a 2 hour format.... covering lots of topics..... which they each get to make their comment on. It's going to be so useful /sarc
[18:19:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, offer them space on SN
[18:19:33] <juggs> hell no
[18:20:08] <SirFinkus> an hour long format for each issue between 2 people seems to be the sweet spot for most issues
[18:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh come on, we could have lotsa fun ripping into them
[18:20:37] <SirFinkus> presidential debates are basically both candidates stating their positions
[18:20:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> no disabled comments here, bitches. face the mob or admit you got no balls.
[18:21:37] <SirFinkus> it would be nice if academic ones were a little less rigid, there should be a mutual option to continue a line of argument if both parties agree
[18:21:56] <juggs> I'm not sure SN has a particularly high count of UK voters
[18:22:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas okay, it could draw some in
[18:22:13] <SirFinkus> most of them kind of follow the opening statement -> rebuttal format
[18:22:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is pretty lame. you can make a bullshit rebuttal and nobody can call you on it.
[18:23:12] <SirFinkus> well, you still have closing statements and stuff
[18:23:40] <SirFinkus> I've seen people toss shit out as the "last word" but it always looks pretty bad for the person doing it
[18:23:59] <SirFinkus> assuming their opponent has made a good argument
[18:24:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think it should be pick an issue and use a chess clock. go until you're out of time.
[18:24:25] <SirFinkus> too prone to people talking over each other
[18:24:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, the kind where you hit the button after your turn is over and it starts on the other person's clock
[18:25:14] <SirFinkus> then the strategy is still to get the last word
[18:25:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> only if it's a damned good last word.
[18:25:30] <SirFinkus> leave the other guy with 3 seconds
[18:25:49] <SirFinkus> oh wait, misunderstood
[18:26:15] <SirFinkus> that might work, but it's still too gamey for me, it seems like clock management would be too strategic
[18:26:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be but it'd be fun to see before they worked out how to properly game it.
[18:26:41] <SirFinkus> if you have designated time blocks, you can plan your arguments and statemetns
[18:26:51] <SirFinkus> text really is the ideal format
[18:26:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep
[18:27:25] <SirFinkus> both parties can continue the arguments as long as they'd like, and the length is unlimited in theory
[18:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> would be pretty awesome to get a moderator to post an issue then get any pol who wanted to weigh in to comment on it.
[18:27:40] <SirFinkus> in practice, you'd want to stay concise so people don't skip your arguments
[18:28:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, tl;dr is the enemy of comments arguments.
[18:30:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> thankfully i do not have that particular problem. my shit is purely functional and uses the minimum required verbosity.
[18:30:31] * TheMightyBuzzard eyes NCommander
[18:33:06] * juggs remains straight faced
[18:46:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, how ya wanna call success/failure on the experiment after it's run a month or two? executive fiat, registered user voting, or comments to a post about it?
[18:47:30] <juggs> do we have a working voting system?
[18:48:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, we have a terrible email system that only registered users can use or a poll which anyone can use but is easily gamed.
[18:48:07] <juggs> certainly not executive fiat - that would not go down well :D
[18:48:24] * SirFinkus had forgotten about the whole name voting fiasco
[18:48:29] <SirFinkus> man, that was fun, wasn't it?
[18:48:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm leaning towards comments section of a request for comment post.
[18:49:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> that way you get the emphaticness as well as the content of their opinion on the matter.
[18:50:06] <juggs> makes sense. and probably the only actually working way to do it
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[19:21:29] <juggs> I think Ethanol's been leaving reviews on Amazon.... http://www.amazon.co.uk
[19:21:32] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Amazon.co.uk: NotMark's review of Psycho Juice 70% Ghost Pepper
[20:00:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mystery Galactic Bubble Traveling at Breakneck Speed - http://sylnt.us - sorry-about-that,-officer
[20:09:01] <chromas> http://bitboost.com
[20:09:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03PawSense helps you catproof your computer.
[20:25:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oi, juggs, we got a request for clarification on what is and is not spam. you wanna do up a quick post on that since it's not in the release announcement?
[20:27:29] <juggs> sure, I'll try and come up with something
[20:30:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers, bat it around here and make chromas put his brain to something besides silly cat stuff for a bit =P
[20:31:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> was question on post-content vs sigs as well.
[20:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> which i hadn't thought of
[20:32:17] <juggs> To my mind, spam is the gratuitous clikbait link spam shite BS posts.
[20:34:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> should exclude things that're only mildly annoying like first post and utterance of a meme though.
[20:35:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> though APK's HOSTS posts are deserving of it IMO
[20:36:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigs... i'd say don't moderate the sig, report it to admin@soylentnews.org and let us modify it if it's truly spam-worthy.
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[20:36:53] * TheMightyBuzzard waves at the SoyCow5485
[20:37:12] <juggs> yep - mildly annoying stuff is just off-topic
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[20:37:54] <juggs> It's going to be a judgement call though in some cases
[20:38:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is cool as long as we state that.
[20:38:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> too close to call go to the commenter or the moderator?
[20:39:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly should go to the mod, they have more to lose.
[20:39:33] <juggs> commenter
[20:39:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> or that, on the grounds of comments being more important
[20:39:58] <juggs> hmm - good point
[20:40:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can see it going either way really.
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[20:41:40] <SirFinkus> I'd say the comment just needs to be relevant to the story, or at least the parent
[20:41:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> hola, Bytram
[20:41:56] <SirFinkus> erring towards not marking things as spam if it's ambiguous
[20:42:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd prefer a higher bar than relevant, that's why we have off-topic. we prolly should err towards the commenter though.
[20:42:49] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[20:42:57] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'day!
[20:43:14] <Bytram> !uid
[20:43:15] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5026, owned by atokar
[20:43:43] <Bytram> looking forward to the site update.
[20:44:20] <Bytram> I have a question, though, I can't seem to find the place on the site where I'd find comments that were modded as 'spam'
[20:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> right next to the moderation score will be a link saying This Is Not Spam or some such.
[20:45:16] <Bytram> oh! okay.
[20:45:36] <Bytram> So, would only see the control when the comment is flagged as spam?
[20:45:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> pj was going to do up a page of all comments moderated spam but it didn't make it in this time.
[20:45:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[20:45:44] <Bytram> make sense
[20:46:18] <Bytram> btw, has anyone been bouncing dev? I've had to re-logon twice today.
[20:46:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that i know of
[20:46:41] <Bytram> k
[20:46:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> need a nap soon or i'm gonna be falling asleep on pj during the upgrade. waiting on a bloody phone call though.
[20:47:10] <Bytram> you can call me Al
[20:47:22] <juggs> go for the nap - the phone will ring soon enough... right as you are dozing off
[20:48:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, okay but if you call me Betty we're gonna have prollems
[20:48:12] <Bytram> ummm, what effect is there, really, to flag a comment as spam when it was submitted by an AC?
[20:48:17] <Bytram> LOL!!!!!
[20:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> it downmods it.
[20:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> no karma hit but still downmodded.
[20:48:52] <Bytram> but obviously no hit to the AC account
[20:49:27] <Bytram> so, if I sense my post might run afoul of this, I ject click "Post Anonymously" ???
[20:49:49] <Bytram> there IS the ipid and I can never remember the other one
[20:50:19] <Bytram> aha! subnetid
[20:50:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you sense your post may run afoul of getting called spam, ima kick you in the goober.
[20:51:04] <Bytram> In that case, you can call me Gomer Pyle
[20:51:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> it really should never be ambiguous as to when something is spam. when in doubt, don't mod it spam cause the dout is going to the commenter on review.
[20:52:11] <Bytram> hmmm, I just modded a comment as spam; don't see any 'special control(s)' there...
[20:52:16] <Bytram> Story:
[20:52:18] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[20:52:18] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) article: testing of a fix for the submit.pl to admin.pl tag stripping bug
[20:52:20] <Bytram> Comment:
[20:52:27] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[20:52:27] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) comment by Anonymous Coward
[20:52:35] <juggs> being slow at the moment - busy putting sustenance on to plate and scoffing it
[20:52:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> wtf?
[20:52:54] <Bytram> do YOU see anything there?
[20:53:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> no and i got uber admin on dev i think
[20:53:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's gonna need fixed
[20:53:38] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:54:03] <Bytram> then again, that post was by a 'pseudo' AC; could it make a difference?
[20:54:50] <Bytram> paulej72: so sorry; just modded a comment of yours as spam to do some testing.
[20:54:52] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[20:54:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i should absolutely be seeing it.
[20:55:18] <juggs> rut-roh
[20:55:26] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
[20:55:40] <Bytram> I just go an internal server error; hit refresh; and the page loaded
[20:56:26] <Bytram> I see no moderation description on PJ's comment I modded: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[20:58:07] <Bytram> maybe I am not allowed to correct mods that I've made?
[20:58:23] <Bytram> in the same way that I cannot moderate my own comments?
[20:59:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm thinking something's screwy
[20:59:32] <Bytram> also, I thought there was supposed to be some kind of 'central' place where I could look to see *all* spam mods? having to look at each story is kinda problematic.
[20:59:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> or he didn't upgrade dev properly
[20:59:38] <Bytram> nodnod
[20:59:57] <Bytram> back in five minutes -- afk
[21:00:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> grumble
[21:01:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i do not have time to troubleshoot this right now.
[21:02:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> need sleep or ima be worthless come tonight.
[21:02:49] <juggs> I have an Unspam and Ban or Unspam Only link now!
[21:02:57] * Leebert has had a really rough couple of weeks. Remedy: Watching Commando.
[21:03:16] <Leebert> "Remember when I said I'd kill you last? I LIED!"
[21:04:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent
[21:04:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> bounced the server, maybe was some staleness in it
[21:05:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> sleep now. don't count on seeing me much before 10EST
[21:05:29] <Leebert> Maybe when it's done, I'll put some 5.56mm holes in some inanimate objects.
[21:06:43] <Bytram> back
[21:07:31] <JamesNZ> https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net
[21:07:32] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: rest well -- thanks for all you've done!
[21:07:34] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[21:07:34] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 133
[21:07:44] * JamesNZ makes a note to shorten the URL next time
[21:08:42] * Bytram notes that Hedonismbot usually does that whenever it sees a link in this channel
[21:08:57] <JamesNZ> Ah, right.
[21:09:01] <Bytram> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:09:01] <Hedonismbot> * 03503 Service Unavailable
[21:09:04] <Bytram> lOL!
[21:09:11] <JamesNZ> :P
[21:09:16] <chromas> cached link
[21:09:24] <Bytram> dev server was just bounced -- H. needs a restart, methinks
[21:09:32] <chromas> =del .titles.cache/http://dev.soylentnews.org/
[21:09:32] <Hedonismbot> k
[21:09:42] <chromas> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:09:43] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[21:09:51] <Bytram> chromas++ # magic man
[21:09:51] <Bender> karma - chromas: 64
[21:10:02] <Bytram> 2**6 !woop
[21:11:07] <juggs> !woop
[21:11:07] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[21:13:08] <juggs> I think I just banned myself from modding on dev :)
[21:13:25] -!- JamesNZ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[21:13:34] <Bytram> ok, I just modded this one as spam...
[21:13:39] <juggs> or possibly Bytram D:
[21:13:54] * Bytram looks around nervously
[21:14:10] <Bytram> I don't think I hit any of your comments... oh. wait....
[21:14:13] <Bytram> hmmm.
[21:14:36] <juggs> I accidentally hit the Unspam and Ban link on a spam mod'd comment
[21:14:50] <Bytram> roh roh reorge!
[21:15:34] <Bytram> hmmm, I just modded this AC comment as spam: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:15:34] <Hedonismbot> * 03SN (dev) comment by Anonymous Coward
[21:15:48] <Bytram> I go to that comment's link
[21:16:01] <Bytram> and all I see is:
[21:16:02] <Bytram> Reply to This
[21:16:02] <Bytram> Check to Delete
[21:16:17] <Bytram> and a moderate button
[21:16:34] <juggs> hmm.. that may be the one I unspammed
[21:16:40] <Bytram> juggs: do you see anything different?
[21:16:44] <juggs> I'll stop meddling
[21:16:47] <Bytram> I just hit again a few moments ago.
[21:17:29] <juggs> I don't remember seeing Check to Delete before, but I think I have different privs on Dev to those I have on Live
[21:18:01] <Bytram> prolly. I think I have pretty much top privs on dev -- not so much on prod
[21:18:15] <Bytram> doh!
[21:18:34] <Bytram> I just posted a comment for me to moderate -- didn't hit post as AC; can't touch it. :/
[21:18:45] <juggs> lol
[21:19:04] <Bytram> ok, just hit submit
[21:19:21] <Bytram> hit moderate as spam
[21:20:03] <Bytram> I am now looking directly at that comment, and I see no additional controls.
[21:20:12] <Bytram> I'm clicking the link for the story
[21:20:16] <Bytram> and scrolling down
[21:20:22] <juggs> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:20:23] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) article: Stike test
[21:20:34] <ar> huh
[21:20:35] <juggs> try modding my posts as spam then
[21:20:37] <ar> TOX is awesome
[21:20:45] <Bytram> still nothin'.
[21:20:47] <ar> and it JFW, including video chat
[21:20:55] <ar> and is serverless
[21:20:57] <Bytram> juggs: can you see anything available on this one: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:20:57] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) comment by Anonymous Coward
[21:21:22] <Bytram> comment text is: "I gots to remember to post as AC so I can mod it!"
[21:21:24] <ar> and the utox client both work good and looks good and doesn't require anything but xlib
[21:21:54] <Bytram> I see: [Reply to This] [Paren] [Normal V] [Moderate] [] Check to Delete
[21:22:13] <juggs> likewise
[21:22:34] <Bytram> huh! So where/what did you see when you could un-spam ?
[21:22:49] <juggs> I was getting the two options right after the (Score:-1) in the subject line of the comment
[21:23:09] <Bytram> You mean right after this text: "Re:test spam #3 for martyb (Score:-1)"
[21:23:27] <juggs> yup.
[21:23:44] <Bytram> I'm not seeing it
[21:24:18] <Bytram> Juggs: I'll take a bullet; can you mod this one as spam: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:24:18] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) comment by martyb (76)
[21:24:35] <Bytram> title text: "Re:test spam #2 for martyb (Score:1)"
[21:24:41] <juggs> AHA... have a look at the 1st comment on this one.... https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:24:57] <juggs> I had to Spam mod it 3 times.
[21:25:29] <Bytram> I only see: "blhjbgvhkvb (Score:-1) Unspam and Ban or Unspam Only"
[21:25:38] <Bytram> maybe it has something to do with my viewing prefs?
[21:25:43] <juggs> Those are links
[21:26:43] <Bytram> I see the first comment under that story is scored "-1"... I'm looking at it directly, now...
[21:26:43] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:26:44] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) comment by juggs (63)
[21:27:00] <Bytram> no extra controls that I can see.
[21:27:31] <juggs> "Unspam and Ban" is an href. "Unspam Only" is another href. Those ~are~ the controls
[21:28:08] <Bytram> OH!!!!!!
[21:28:24] <Bytram> they don't look anything different than title text to me!
[21:28:45] <juggs> It looks like the only SPam down mod recorded in the little table there was the final one of the three that took the comment score to -1
[21:29:12] <Bytram> ok, I see the "reason" being spam, now.
[21:30:29] * Bytram would prefer to see something like: "[Unspam_and_Ban] or [Unspam_Only]" *with underlines* in the title text
[21:30:36] <juggs> lol, I don't. Although dev is being an ass and keeps logging me out.
[21:30:46] <juggs> That would be clearer yes,
[21:30:48] <Bytram> hmmm, underlines would get lost between the words.
[21:30:59] * Bytram would prefer to see something like: "[Unspam-and-Ban] or [Unspam-Only]" *with underlines* in the title text
[21:31:06] <juggs> aye
[21:32:00] <juggs> Hmm... I have only lost 20 Karma despite modding 2 of my comments SPAM 3 times each. Seems it is only the SPAM mod that takes it to -1 that is counted :/
[21:32:01] <Bytram> I cannot grep semantics!
[21:32:19] <Bytram> really?
[21:32:22] <Bytram> interesting!
[21:33:02] * Bytram goes to look at your comment history
[21:33:04] <juggs> Makes sense as the commenter should only lose 10 Karma per Spam Comment... not for every SPam mod on said comment - that would be violently harsh!
[21:33:51] <Bytram> Ummm, ISTR TMB posting a comment saying that THAT could happen; it was in response to a comment to your 'upcoming changes' post.
[21:34:44] <Bytram> ima lookin at your comment history; I see a "-20" on your second-most-recent comment
[21:34:56] <Bytram> most recent comment has "0"
[21:35:49] <Bytram> Ima gonna [Unspam Only] on: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:36:09] <juggs> Go for it. I'm eating for a few now.
[21:36:10] <Bytram> btw, fwiw, I'm using the "OMG Pwnies" style
[21:36:41] <juggs> ha - I was using VT100, back to Chillax for now
[21:37:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, that was intentional so that 1-2 spam comments could utterly ruin your karma.
[21:37:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> so that people would not spam
[21:38:02] <Bytram> ok, the value in the "CK" column is still "-20", but the comment score is now back to "0" for: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:38:02] <Hedonismbot> * 03SN (dev) comment by juggs (63)
[21:38:34] <juggs> OK. Spam mod does not appear to take effect until the comment hits -1. I had to Spam Mod 3 times from +2 before the Unspam and Ban control options appeared.
[21:38:54] * Bytram wonders if the different styles show the spam controls differently?
[21:39:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird. i think that's a varnish thing
[21:39:19] <Bytram> I'm almost out of mod points on dev
[21:39:39] <Bytram> can I grant myself some more?
[21:39:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you can figure out how. i always did mine via the db
[21:40:16] <juggs> Thought you were napping TMB :D
[21:41:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> was giving it a go. not working so well though.
[21:42:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all good, i'll just take an extra adderall later.
[21:43:58] <Bytram> btw, the story queue had gone dry; I put up three stories... that should hold us until we go live with the upgrade
[21:45:25] <juggs> Sunday syndrome :D
[21:45:57] <Bytram> nod nod
[21:46:14] <Bytram> I just had a large bowl of spaghetti -- I should be wanting to nod off with a half hour or so.
[21:47:40] <Bytram> juggs: so, if I'm understanding you correctly... someone posts a comment; it's at score 1; (get's upmodded; not likely for spam, but who knows with sockpuppets); I mod it as spam.
[21:47:56] <Bytram> what do you see for a score and UI effects?
[21:48:54] <juggs> Hmm - should a comment get a "Spam" label (in place if where Insightful / Interesting / etc.) would be displayed when Spam modded? I saw the score go down, but no Spam label, just the Spam reversion control links appeared.
[21:49:20] <Bytram> I would like to think it should show... where are you looking?
[21:50:32] <juggs> Bytram, one upmod followed by a Spam mod, to my mind result in a score of 0 and a Spam label (as well as the UnSpam controls for Eds).
[21:51:27] <juggs> Bytram, I was looking at my comments that were Spam. They've both been unspammed now and I'm out of points to test any more :D
[21:51:29] <Bytram> ummm, if starting score was "1" (logged in; newish user), one upmod makes it "2"; one spam makes it "1" --- right?
[21:51:37] <juggs> correct
[21:51:39] <Bytram> typo
[21:51:59] <Bytram> waitaminute... I had that right.
[21:52:18] <juggs> (Score:1) Spam [UnSpam and Ban] [UnSpam Only]
[21:52:26] <juggs> Is what I woudl envisage
[21:52:33] <Bytram> nod nod
[21:53:13] <crutchy> ~time new spork
[21:53:14] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 25 January 2015, 9:53 pm
[21:53:21] <juggs> ~shrug~ Don't know now as I was only looking with my uber priv account, rather than also examining with an unpriv'd user.
[21:53:23] <crutchy> ~time new fork
[21:53:24] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 25 January 2015, 9:53 pm
[21:53:34] <crutchy> ~time new yrrk
[21:53:35] <exec> Sunday, 25 January 2015 @ 4:53 pm EST - New York, NY, USA
[21:53:36] <juggs> ~time crutchy
[21:53:38] <exec> Monday, 26 January 2015 @ 8:53 am GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[21:53:51] <juggs> ~g'mornin grasshopper
[21:54:11] <crutchy> ~g'day juggs
[21:54:12] * exec allegedly offers an anvil of milo to juggs
[21:54:21] <crutchy> ooh milo!
[21:54:29] <crutchy> yummmmmmm
[21:54:38] * Bytram tried to login to dev using LYNX on windows -- http://dev.soylentnews.org -- wouldn't take, kept cycling me back to the login page. The I tried to login with "httpS:" and my version of Lynx doesn't know how to talk https. :/
[21:54:38] <Hedonismbot> * 03503 Service Unavailable
[21:54:50] * Bytram kicks Hedonismbot
[21:54:58] <Bytram> chromas: ^^^
[21:55:16] <Bytram> hmmmm, https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:55:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[21:55:19] <Bytram> =)
[21:55:25] <Bytram> hmmmm, http://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:55:25] <Hedonismbot> * 03503 Service Unavailable
[21:55:34] <Bytram> varnish--
[21:55:34] <Bender> karma - varnish: 0
[21:55:34] <juggs> To be fair, dev is a tad flakey or up/down at the moment
[21:55:35] <chromas> that's odd
[21:55:47] <Bytram> known problem with th3e site...
[21:55:54] <chromas> oh, the s
[21:56:00] <crutchy> =del .titles.cache/http://dev.soylentnews.org/
[21:56:00] <Hedonismbot> k
[21:56:01] <juggs> yah, dev is a little weird
[21:56:03] <crutchy> ?
[21:56:10] <chromas> different url, different cache item
[21:56:24] <crutchy> oh crap did that do summin?
[21:56:25] <Bytram> as I udnerstand it, varnish or maybe the loadbalancer(?) can't handle both connection types at the same time.
[21:56:42] <Bytram> it's one or the other, can't have both.
[21:56:47] <chromas> crutchy: yeah that should've fixed it :D
[21:56:52] * Bytram finds that wildly frustrating
[21:57:12] <Bytram> hmm,
[21:57:19] <chromas> in this case, it's just because http and https have two different cache slots in the bot
[21:57:19] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[21:57:19] <Hedonismbot> * 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[21:57:20] <juggs> I don't think the load balancer has anything to do with dev Bytram. AFAIUI Load Balancer is just for the 2 servers serving the live site.
[21:57:21] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[21:57:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[21:58:00] <crutchy> we should call the load balancer 'gir'
[21:58:02] <Bytram> say what? Hedonismbot can access either way?
[21:58:05] <Bytram> Oh! Doh.
[21:58:12] <Bytram> It's accessing the site as an AC, right?
[21:58:19] <chromas> yup
[21:58:25] <Bytram> aha! Got it!
[21:58:51] <chromas> it keys the title cache to the exact url string, so even changing case makes a new entry
[21:58:59] <Bytram> do ACs get cookies from our site(s)?
[21:59:19] <Bytram> hTtP://dev.SoYlEnTnEwS.org
[21:59:20] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[21:59:25] <Bytram> -)
[21:59:32] <chromas> dunno but I think I have the bot set to toss cookies
[21:59:48] <crutchy> ~header-login host https://dev.soylentnews.org
[21:59:50] <chromas> curl, actually
[21:59:58] <Bytram> that would make sense... given all the links that fly through here each day, that'd be one full cookie jar!
[22:00:26] <Bytram> btw, you should be able to lowercase everything in a URL -- at least if it is all ASCII
[22:00:34] <Bytram> just cache THAT, instead
[22:00:39] <Bytram> will save you some slots
[22:00:52] <chromas> =stats .title.cache
[22:00:52] <Hedonismbot> There is no .title.cache!
[22:01:05] <chromas> you don't have to yell
[22:01:09] <crutchy> that might stuff up some sites that use case-sensitive get args
[22:01:09] <Bytram> lower case only should work with UTF-8, as well, but things can get 'interesting' in certain languages
[22:01:12] <chromas> =stats .titles.cache
[22:01:12] <Hedonismbot> .titles.cache: 12051 bytes in 52 cells
[22:01:24] <Bytram> hrrrrm....
[22:01:25] <Bytram> yeah
[22:01:28] <crutchy> like youtube
[22:01:38] <Bytram> good point
[22:01:41] <chromas> the domain at least
[22:01:48] <Bytram> but, the scheme and domain should be lowercasable
[22:01:54] <crutchy> s/tu/spew/
[22:01:54] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> like youspewbe
[22:02:18] <Bytram> crutchy: top of the morning to ya
[22:02:36] <crutchy> ~g'day Bytram :D
[22:02:38] * exec insatiably pours a blagoblag of bewb for Bytram :D
[22:02:44] <crutchy> you lucky bastard
[22:02:49] <crutchy> bewbs++
[22:02:50] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 38
[22:03:09] * Bytram is not so thrilled with the blagoblag, though.
[22:03:13] <Bytram> nograb
[22:03:32] <crutchy> ~api uid Bytram
[22:03:34] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user "Bytram"
[22:03:42] <crutchy> derp
[22:03:48] <Bytram> tho, that *does* sound like something out of HHGTTG: Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster
[22:03:48] <chromas> ~api uid martyb
[22:03:50] <exec> SN uid for user "martyb" is 76
[22:04:03] * Bytram is patriotic
[22:04:15] <crutchy> well that's confusementing :d
[22:04:21] <chromas> could it do karma?
[22:04:30] <chromas> or that's probably hidden from everyone else
[22:04:30] * Bytram has multiple personas
[22:04:36] <crutchy> ~api karma martyb
[22:04:39] <exec> SN karma for "martyb" (uid 76) is 50
[22:04:44] <chromas> cool
[22:04:51] <chromas> crutchy++
[22:04:51] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 124
[22:04:53] <chromas> exec++
[22:04:53] <Bender> karma - exec: 18
[22:04:54] <Bytram> ~api karma Bytram
[22:04:56] <exec> error: invalid uid
[22:05:07] <Bytram> ~api nick 76
[22:05:16] <chromas> I thought you had an account for both
[22:05:18] <crutchy> might be name
[22:05:23] <crutchy> ~api name 76
[22:05:24] <Bytram> ~api namenick 76
[22:05:25] <exec> SN username for uid 76 is "martyb"
[22:05:29] <Bytram> ~api name 76
[22:05:31] <exec> SN username for uid 76 is "martyb"
[22:05:53] * Bytram is not sure if exec has caught up or not
[22:05:59] <crutchy> i think there's a link to the source code on the wiki
[22:06:02] <Bytram> ~api name 2
[22:06:03] <crutchy> yeah it has :D
[22:06:04] <exec> SN username for uid 2 is "NCommander"
[22:06:09] <crutchy> ~api
[22:06:10] <Bytram> ~api name 40432
[22:06:10] <exec> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[22:06:12] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN username for uid 40432
[22:06:12] <Bytram> ~api name 4043
[22:06:15] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN username for uid 4043
[22:06:28] <Bytram> ahhh, you're talking to DEV
[22:06:29] <crutchy> oh dev might be a bit behind the 8 ball there
[22:06:34] <Bytram> nod nod
[22:06:53] <Bytram> hmm, might splain why I could not log into dev as Bytram, too.
[22:07:12] <crutchy> [[ApiDocs|Example scripts]]
[22:07:14] <exec> 13PHP script used by the exec IRC bot: https://github.com
[22:07:14] <exec> 13http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/ApiDocs#Example_scripts
[22:09:05] <crutchy> ~api name º
[22:09:07] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN username for uid º
[22:09:29] <crutchy> ~api name
[22:09:36] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN username for uid
[22:09:57] * crutchy sucks at hackery wackery
[22:10:23] <crutchy> ~api name $get_in_through_the_back_door
[22:10:25] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN username for uid $get_in_through_the_back_door
[22:10:47] * TheMightyBuzzard gives another go at getting 45m of nap
[22:10:56] <crutchy> aww but it works in the movies!?
[22:11:17] * Bytram waves at TheMightyBuzzard
[22:11:40] * Bytram waits for thunderbird to launch
[22:14:37] <Bytram> ~api name 4031
[22:14:39] <exec> SN username for uid 4031 is "Bytram"
[22:14:43] <Bytram> =)
[22:15:00] <Bytram> ~api uid Bytram
[22:15:02] <exec> SN uid for user "Bytram" is 4031
[22:15:21] <Bytram> ~api uid bytram
[22:15:23] <exec> SN uid for user "bytram" is 4031
[22:15:32] <Bytram> ~api uid bYTRAM
[22:15:33] <exec> SN uid for user "bYTRAM" is 4031
[22:15:47] <Bytram> ~api uid HitHere
[22:15:49] <exec> SN uid for user "HitHere" is 866
[22:15:56] <Bytram> ~api uid HiThere
[22:15:57] <exec> SN uid for user "HiThere" is 866
[22:16:10] <Bytram> =)
[22:16:25] <Bytram> break time
[22:16:27] <Bytram> aafk
[22:16:42] <Bytram> ~time utc
[22:16:43] <exec> Sunday, 25 January 2015 @ 10:16 pm GMT - Greenwich Mean Time
[22:17:11] <Bytram> so, just under 5 hours till site upgrade
[22:17:14] <Bytram> afk
[22:17:22] -!- t3 has quit [Quit: Web client closed]
[22:18:44] <crutchy> ~remind 280 min SITE UPGRADE TIME!!!
[22:19:07] <crutchy> aw crap its disabled :/
[22:19:13] <crutchy> stupid bot
[22:26:36] <crutchy> ~api test
[22:26:39] <exec> tests successful!
[22:29:05] <crutchy> ~api name -1
[22:29:07] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN username for uid -1
[22:30:19] <crutchy> ~api uid chromas
[22:30:21] <exec> SN uid for user "chromas" is 34
[22:31:21] <crutchy> ~api uid xchromas
[22:31:23] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user "xchromas"
[22:31:28] <crutchy> ~api uid @chromas
[22:31:30] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user "@chromas"
[22:31:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Millions of GMO Insects could be set Loose in Florida Keys - http://sylnt.us - what-could-possibly-go-wrong?
[22:32:05] <crutchy> ~api name x34
[22:32:06] <chromas> ~api uid barabbas
[22:32:07] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN username for uid x34
[22:32:08] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user "barabbas"
[22:32:14] <chromas> ~api uid barrabas
[22:32:16] <exec> SN uid for user "barrabas" is 22
[22:32:23] <chromas> ooh, 22 for sale!
[22:32:33] <crutchy> what was that issue that we found a while back?
[22:33:01] <chromas> non-numbers in a numeric string
[22:33:06] <chromas> like uid=21b
[22:33:18] <chromas> I think it has to start with a number
[22:34:14] <Bytram> chromas: yuppers; it only looks at leading digits; once it hits a non-digit, it considers that to be the UID
[22:34:33] <juggs> It's in the documentation now :D
[22:34:35] <Bytram> artifact of how slash gets form data from apache, if I understand TMB correctly
[22:34:38] <Bytram> nod nod
[22:34:47] <crutchy> ~api
[22:34:48] <exec> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[22:34:59] <Bytram> ~api name 76ispatritotic
[22:35:03] <exec> SN username for uid 76ispatritotic is "martyb"
[22:35:07] <Bytram> =)
[22:35:09] <crutchy> ah
[22:35:22] <crutchy> just writing some tests
[22:35:43] <Bytram> yup. Give me *examples* any day! Sure beats meta-descriptive type stuff!
[22:36:16] * Bytram is trying to find a recent version of OpenSSL for windows 32 bit
[22:37:01] * Bytram needs recent versions of these files: libeay32.dll ssleay32.dll
[22:37:26] <crutchy> ~api test
[22:37:34] <Bytram> hmmm, this looks like a possibility: http://slproweb.com
[22:37:34] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Shining Light Productions - Win32 OpenSSL
[22:37:36] <exec> test failed: get_uid( chromas )!==34
[22:37:42] <crutchy> derp
[22:37:50] <crutchy> apparently api doesn't like spaces
[22:37:59] <crutchy> that's prolly fair enough
[22:38:04] -!- BadCoderFinger [BadCoderFinger!~BadCoderF@216.160.gyz.km] has joined #Soylent
[22:38:44] <Bytram> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[22:39:08] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[22:39:10] <Bytram> ~api max_uid
[22:39:21] * Bytram waves a greeting to BadCoderFinger
[22:39:25] <crutchy> !uid
[22:39:25] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5026, owned by atokar
[22:39:27] <crutchy> oops
[22:39:30] <crutchy> ~uid
[22:39:31] <exec> The current maximum UID is 5026, owned by atokar
[22:39:38] <Bytram> that's on production, tho
[22:39:43] <crutchy> oh actually i think that uses bender's hook
[22:39:46] <crutchy> yeah
[22:40:06] <crutchy> need to add that one
[22:40:33] <crutchy> haven't got any story or comment thingys yet either. not sure what do do with those in irc
[22:40:46] <crutchy> could make some tests though i guess
[22:40:53] <Bytram> spam the channel? :/
[22:42:09] <crutchy> visit #comments at 8 minutes past the next hour and you'll see some spam :d
[22:42:45] <Bytram> this one returns about 49K of stuff: http://dev.soylentnews.org
[22:44:20] <crutchy> i could make some regression tests for that at least
[22:44:52] <crutchy> ~api test
[22:44:59] <exec> test failed: get_uid( chromas)!==34
[22:45:12] <crutchy> hmm doesn't like single space either
[22:45:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> try %20
[22:46:00] <crutchy> ~api test
[22:46:09] <exec> test failed: get_uid(%20chromas)!==34
[22:46:17] <crutchy> guess not
[22:46:17] <Bytram> no such user
[22:46:27] <Bytram> ~api name 34
[22:46:28] <exec> SN username for uid 34 is "chromas"
[22:46:35] <crutchy> ~api test
[22:46:42] <Bytram> no spaces there, can't expect to accept them the other way around
[22:46:48] <Bytram> otoh
[22:46:52] <Bytram> ~api name 18
[22:46:54] <exec> SN username for uid 18 is "The Mighty Buzzard"
[22:46:56] <exec> test failed: get_name(1e12)!==
[22:47:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like your test math is wrong
[22:47:23] <Bytram> ~api get_uid The%20Mighty%20Buzzard
[22:47:29] <crutchy> hmm i think it must be getting AC
[22:47:48] <Bytram> maybe you should get a rectifier and try DC?
[22:48:02] <crutchy> ~api test
[22:48:05] <crutchy> hehe
[22:48:17] <exec> test failed: get_name(x34)!==chromas
[22:48:23] * crutchy would use 4 diodes
[22:48:30] <Bytram> lol
[22:48:35] <crutchy> none of this black box shit
[22:48:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, damned straight
[22:48:53] <Bytram> just be careful how ya wire those up; don't want to release any magic smoke!
[22:49:12] <crutchy> true
[22:49:18] <crutchy> ~api test
[22:49:27] * Bytram is waiting for his D/L to complete
[22:49:31] <crutchy> this one might return all true
[22:49:33] <exec> tests successful!
[22:49:37] <crutchy> :)
[22:50:10] <crutchy> its the must basic set of tests possible, but its summin i guess
[22:50:40] <crutchy> https://github.com
[22:50:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/sn_api.php at master · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub
[22:51:27] <crutchy> i'm not very good at working out edge cases :/
[22:52:00] <crutchy> ~api name 99999999999999999999999999999999999999
[22:52:03] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN username for uid 99999999999999999999999999999999999999
[22:53:25] <Bytram> ~api uid crutchy
[22:53:27] <exec> SN uid for user "crutchy" is 179
[22:53:47] <Bytram> ~api uid ♫
[22:53:49] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user "♫"
[22:54:10] <Bytram> ~api uid '"'
[22:54:11] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user "'"'"
[22:54:16] <Bytram> ~api uid "'"
[22:54:18] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user ""'""
[22:54:23] <Bytram> ~api uid "
[22:54:25] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user """
[22:54:28] <crutchy> is there any way of tricking the api into returning a valid uid but for the wrong user?
[22:55:01] <crutchy> ~api uid chromas&fart
[22:55:03] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user "chromas&fart"
[22:55:07] <Bytram> not that I can imagine; it's prolly just a simple sql query: select UID from users where nick == "blah";
[22:55:15] <crutchy> ~api uid chromas&fart
[22:55:16] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user "chromas&fart"
[22:55:42] <Bytram> if no string exactly mtches that text, then it comes up with: not found
[22:55:43] <ar> ~api uid arachnist
[22:55:45] <crutchy> grr. i'm urlencoding
[22:55:46] <exec> SN uid for user "arachnist" is 172
[22:56:07] <Bytram> otherwise, it just returns the UID of whatever nick matched the string you passed it.
[22:56:19] <Bytram> if *that* is busted, we gots way worse things to worry about!
[22:56:34] <crutchy> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[22:57:03] <crutchy> i guess that's just another parameter
[22:58:27] <Bytram> hmmm, can nicks have an "=" in them?
[22:58:54] <chromas> must've updated my ircd. now it waits around for ident response too, just like sn
[22:59:19] <crutchy> is there a way to disable that pause?
[22:59:30] <chromas> probably. it wasn't there before though
[23:00:01] <crutchy> its always waited in xchat
[23:00:22] <crutchy> i just thought it was normal though :d
[23:00:23] <Bytram> well, time for me to get going.
[23:00:25] <chromas> yeah. it's my local server that changed. it was insta-connect before
[23:00:30] <Bytram> got some errands to run.
[23:00:38] <Bytram> hope you all have fund while I'm gone!
[23:00:44] <Bytram> s/fund/fun/
[23:00:45] <SedNotABot> <Bytram> hope you all have fun while I'm gone!
[23:00:54] * Bytram kinda liked it better with the mistake!
[23:01:00] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[23:01:01] <crutchy> i'll prolly have busted something in my bot by the time you get back :d
[23:01:09] <Bytram|away> fix it until it
[23:01:12] <chromas> you could try %3d for =
[23:01:14] <Bytram|away> 's broke!
[23:02:18] <chromas> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[23:02:22] <chromas> oh
[23:02:23] <Bytram|away> FYI, from the "create account" screen:
[23:02:26] <Bytram|away> Nickname ___________________________________
[23:02:27] <Bytram|away> (Note: only the characters a-zA-Z0-9$_.+!*'(),-, plus space, are allowed in nicknames, and all others will be stripped out.)
[23:02:38] <chromas> ~api uid chromas%3dding
[23:02:40] <exec> error: unable to retrive SN uid for user "chromas%3dding"
[23:02:44] <Bytram|away> so, no "=" allowed in a nick
[23:03:02] <chromas> stripping++
[23:03:02] <Bender> karma - stripping: 3
[23:03:51] <Bytram|away> ISTR that at least one alnum character is required, but I could be mistaken.
[23:03:59] <Bytram|away> well, I really got to go.
[23:04:02] <Bytram|away> ciao for now!
[23:04:05] -!- Bytram|away has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[23:10:07] <chromas> ~define pseudobulbar affect
[23:10:09] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3pseudobulbar affect: Pseudobulbar affect (PBA) is a medical condition characterized by sudden and uncontrollable episodes of crying or laughing. It is sometimes referred to as emotional lability, pathological crying and l...
[23:10:44] <chromas> If you or someone you know laughs or cries, talk to your doctor about moar drukgs nao!
[23:24:28] <chromas> =list
[23:24:28] <Hedonismbot> k
[23:25:20] <crutchy> "Added a new -1 Spam mod (inflicts -10 to the karma of the spammer)."
[23:25:27] <crutchy> this will be abused i think
[23:26:52] <crutchy> gunna see the ratio of AC posts skyrocket
[23:27:18] <juggs> We'll see
[23:27:25] <chromas> editors can undo and hammer the modder
[23:27:52] <crutchy> esp since mod points going to be more common
[23:28:04] <juggs> .. aye, that's on the line right underneath... crutchy will get there in a little while :D
[23:28:39] <crutchy> ah yeah :d
[23:29:01] <crutchy> still relies on staff taking action
[23:29:20] <crutchy> what's the ratio of users:active staff?
[23:29:53] <crutchy> or guards:inmates :d
[23:29:56] <juggs> 1 user:5000 active staff
[23:30:04] <juggs> something like that at least :D
[23:30:25] <crutchy> can users undo spam mods too?
[23:30:32] <chromas> ~api uid crutchy
[23:30:34] <exec> SN uid for user "crutchy" is 179
[23:30:57] <chromas> anyone with a uid <180 could also hold a spamhammer :D
[23:30:57] <juggs> Nope crutchy
[23:31:12] <crutchy> but Konomi has 189
[23:31:32] <crutchy> she definitely should have a hammer. she could have so much fun :D
[23:31:32] <juggs> Oh god... imagine the wars if everyone had ban hammers... no-one would be able to moderate within 24 hours
[23:31:32] <chromas> people with uid 34, 179 and 189 :D
[23:32:48] <crutchy> SoylentWars
[23:32:51] <crutchy> :D
[23:33:12] <crutchy> "...and you thought reddit was cool"
[23:33:13] <juggs> Only one comes out alive!
[23:34:00] <crutchy> SoylentWars: A New Hope :D
[23:34:28] <crutchy> we could all have star wars avatars
[23:35:21] <crutchy> one of my guinea pigs is being all dominant and mtuft
[23:35:33] <crutchy> thwartling and strutting her stuff
[23:36:01] <crutchy> and its got a really super tough name too: waffles
[23:36:17] <juggs> wait... are we still in the SoylentWars scenario...
[23:36:40] <crutchy> i think so. we're all going to morph into guinea pigs
[23:36:43] <juggs> wth is thwartling??? Tha sounds terrifying
[23:36:46] <crutchy> with lightsabers
[23:41:24] <juggs> now it's getting silly
[23:48:50] <juggs> I think my update article got poutined :D
[23:52:08] <chromas> oho
[23:52:16] <chromas> s/(h)(o)/\2\1/
[23:52:17] <SedNotABot> <chromas> ooh
[23:52:31] <chromas> We should have poutine as a mod label
[23:52:55] <crutchy> and APK
[23:53:13] <chromas> rename the spam one for that
[23:53:28] <chromas> poutine would be for bitcing
[23:53:34] <chromas> ~define bitcing
[23:53:50] <exec> bitcing: unable to find definition
[23:54:57] <crutchy> juggs, i wouldn't worry too much. its easy to whinge about someone else's hard work. sometimes we just need to bitch about something
[23:55:53] <juggs> I love the continued "What are you trying to fix" questions... when we've had numerous highly commented discussions on the very subject :D
[23:59:16] * chromas bitches to himself about Hedonismbot breaking more and more