#Soylent | Logs for 2015-01-22

« return
[00:04:07] <BadCoderFinger> If you're running a Linux host and a Linux guest, it's great.
[00:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> swiss, i don't blame you. look what happened to me when i submitted a pull request to SN
[00:04:31] <BadCoderFinger> Being a container rather than full virtualization means it's faster.
[00:06:15] <juggs> Sounds interesting.
[01:08:55] -!- SpallsHurgenson [SpallsHurgenson!~SpallsHur@Soylent/Users/656/SpallsHurgenson] has joined #Soylent
[01:12:07] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls
[01:15:41] <SpallsHurgenson> shhh! I'm invisible, so don't give it away to everyone :)
[01:16:01] * BadCoderFinger purposefully doesn't look at Spalls.
[01:16:27] <juggs> Just because you put no clothes on AGAIN, does ~not~ make you invisible SpallsHurgenson. Sheesh, how many times!
[01:16:43] <BadCoderFinger> Guess what happened to me today? _I_ got called an insensitive clod!
[01:17:02] <BadCoderFinger> Insensitive clod party!
[01:17:15] <SpallsHurgenson> that's probably because you were being insensitive and, erm, cloddy
[01:17:28] <BadCoderFinger> A bit, yes.
[01:17:34] <BadCoderFinger> So I'll have to try harder.
[01:18:27] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: I don't know what you mean; I wear clothes: shirts, gloves, ties, hats, scarfs, jackets, shoes, socks... all the usual things :)
[01:18:42] * BadCoderFinger looks online for insensitively classes.
[01:18:58] <juggs> hmmmm... might be something missing Spalls
[01:19:20] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: nope, not as far as I'm concerned :)
[01:19:55] <BadCoderFinger> Bit breezy over there, is it?
[01:21:26] <juggs> chilly too
[01:24:26] <SpallsHurgenson> BadCoderFinger: I think you can find insensitivity training in any of the nearby #gamergate websites :)
[01:25:46] <Konomi> they through in harassment and stalker as bonuses
[01:26:00] <BadCoderFinger> I should get scores in those!
[01:26:42] <BadCoderFinger> Except that I'm not really a fan of most people, so the stalking thing may not take. Also, laziness interferes with harassment.
[01:27:15] <Konomi> I still love this image
[01:27:16] <Konomi> https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com
[01:27:24] <BadCoderFinger> And Spalls won't return my phone calls. So stalking and harassment are out.
[01:27:40] <Konomi> they're not people they're just 0s and 1s
[01:27:43] <Konomi> it's like a game!
[01:28:19] <SpallsHurgenson> don't take it personally; as a rule I try to avoid returning ANYBODY'S phone calls
[01:28:35] <Konomi> my phones are on silet
[01:28:37] <Konomi> I hate phone
[01:28:38] <Konomi> s
[01:28:46] <SpallsHurgenson> answering the phone usually leads to effort on my part :)
[01:28:56] <Konomi> I jump easily ._.
[01:29:03] <Konomi> loud ring tone does that for me pretty well
[01:29:41] <juggs> Konomi
[01:29:56] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[01:29:56] <Hedonismbot> * 03seeing the world through social anxiety, via College Humor - Imgur
[01:30:00] <Konomi> aww
[01:30:03] <Konomi> ._.
[01:30:12] <Konomi> hope someone mirrored that
[01:30:28] <SpallsHurgenson> even at its loudest, I usually don't even HEAR my cell
[01:31:22] <Konomi> http://www.collegehumor.com
[01:31:23] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03What the World Looks Like with Social Anxiety - CollegeHumor Post
[01:33:38] <SpallsHurgenson> the problem I have with going out for drinks is that the bars are so unbelievably noisy I only catch like 10% of the conversations in which I'm involved
[01:33:44] <Konomi> http://mashable.com
[01:33:51] <Konomi> that's why I don't go to bars
[01:34:36] <SpallsHurgenson> that and the drinks are overpriced.
[01:34:43] <BadCoderFinger> Why don't liquor stores deliver?
[01:35:34] <SpallsHurgenson> order enough and they do :)
[01:36:07] <juggs> I have that problem with louder bars too Spalls. I think they call it.... getting old
[01:36:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I am not getting old! Get off my lawn!
[01:36:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I was crotchety as a kid too :)
[01:38:52] <SpallsHurgenson> wow, how are they holding up that helicopter (in konomi's photo) with only lasers? :)
[01:39:07] <Konomi> I think they're trying to melt it myself ;p
[01:39:45] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I see... the lasers are ablating the hull and the plasma is jetting out, propelling the chopper upwards. that makes sense :)
[01:40:30] * SpallsHurgenson thanks konomi for the scientific explanation :)
[01:47:50] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[01:47:50] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03World's Best Skateboarding Cat! Go Didga Go!' - YouTube
[01:48:52] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, kitty-videos on the internet? that'll never catch on!
[01:55:43] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[01:55:43] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Tow Straps Don’t Work This Way - YouTube
[01:56:06] <SpallsHurgenson> vrooom!
[01:58:14] <juggs> Ahhhh - right, realised why my vbox vdi creation was going so slow earlier.... yah 1% space left on the partition will do that. D'OH :D
[01:59:02] <SpallsHurgenson> depending on how big your hdd is, that might not be a problem :)
[01:59:36] <juggs> the partition is only 46G.
[01:59:44] <SpallsHurgenson> span 6 8TB drives and 1% is still pretty big :)
[02:00:23] <juggs> heh. If you have 6 8TB drive knocking around going spare... send them on over :D
[02:00:34] <SpallsHurgenson> (then again, my brain is still hardwired to see a 500GB hdd as "I'll never use that much space huge" :)
[02:00:44] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, s/gb/mb/ :)
[02:05:12] <juggs> Things are running much better now I shifted all my VMs off onto other storage. \o/
[02:05:22] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:05:32] <BadCoderFinger> That probably does help.
[02:06:05] <SpallsHurgenson> transfer 'em onto floppy. "Please insert disk 19 of 28,711" :)
[02:06:57] <juggs> Been ages since I used them - forgot I had the destination for the storage within my home dir on this machine.
[02:07:17] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, maybe delete the old ones?
[02:07:26] <BadCoderFinger> Clear out some space?
[02:07:28] <SpallsHurgenson> what is this "delete" of which you speak?
[02:07:47] <BadCoderFinger> I know, I know. I have a 446GB /home
[02:08:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I just move everything onto the server :)
[02:08:23] <juggs> I probably should do some housecleaning - but eh... they're ALL useful! :D
[02:09:18] <SpallsHurgenson> my archived usenet posts from 1991 are vital information that must be preserved for posterity! :)
[02:09:46] <BadCoderFinger> "Thuh clayowd!"
[02:10:52] <juggs> I did delete one... was a DebianWheezy something or other... seems I set full disk encryption on it... no idea what I was testing on it or what the passphrase was. That was the sacrificial lamb to the gods of tidiness.
[02:11:38] <BadCoderFinger> Heh! One down!
[02:12:09] <SpallsHurgenson> you're gonna regret deletion that in a week or so :)
[02:13:06] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, once you remember the password!
[02:13:16] <SpallsHurgenson> s/deletion that/that deletion/
[02:13:16] <SedNotABot> <SpallsHurgenson> you're gonna regret that deletion in a week or so :)
[02:13:25] <BadCoderFinger> You'll recall that's where you stored all the nuclear secrets!
[02:15:34] <juggs> I'm glad it is gone then. I'm not responsible enough to have such powah!
[02:15:59] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, can I have the powah?
[02:16:17] <BadCoderFinger> juggs: I'm not convinced... Who doesn't want to direct a nuke at Larry Ellison?
[02:16:28] <juggs> vbox1 - 1hr 30min to setup and update. vbox2 (identical) - <10mins. ~le sigh~
[02:17:18] <chromas> You make the volume start small and expand as its filled. that way you'll put the troubles off 'til later :)
[02:17:41] <juggs> nice way to fragment it I guess
[02:19:02] <juggs> These are just scratch boxes for testing a coupla things. They won't last more than a coupla weeks
[02:19:21] <chromas> nah, the internet says linux filesystems don't fragment
[02:21:14] <juggs> must be true then
[02:25:34] * SpallsHurgenson searches for more truths on the internet
[02:26:12] <BadCoderFinger> The internet loves you. Trust the internet.
[02:31:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I trust the internet. That's why I run any program I find on it. :)
[02:32:08] <juggs> As root I hope...
[02:32:22] <SpallsHurgenson> windows 3.1, so no real option :)
[02:33:07] <BadCoderFinger> Internet programs for workgroups?
[02:35:05] <SpallsHurgenson> oh no, I can't get on the internet with this computer :)
[02:35:45] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[02:36:12] <juggs> I think you need winsock trumpet
[02:36:41] <juggs> Is my memory serving correct there, or am I imagining things
[02:38:46] <juggs> ahh... Trumpet Winsock... I was close!
[02:39:17] <BadCoderFinger> You've stirred up bad memories...
[02:40:57] <juggs> hey... it worked. Let's try some more... using finger or turn to get our mail, gopher, NCSA Mosaic...... just send $1000 when you've had enough of the bad memories soldier! :D
[02:41:41] <BadCoderFinger> PharLap 32 bit loader, the Dos4gw loader that came with Watcom, back when Watcom was a decent compiler.
[02:41:44] <chromas> Okay, but I'm gonna need your bank account and password to confirm it's you
[02:42:22] <chromas> I only remember Dos4gw from the games that used it, like Descent and Cyberia
[02:43:26] <BadCoderFinger> It was pretty decent at the time. Otherwise, for big programs, we had to use Borland's horrible overlay crap.
[02:43:55] <SpallsHurgenson> Doooooooooom
[02:47:56] <juggs> Ahhh - the birth of an era. Heralding in the griping about 20+ years ago from 3 continents simultaneously. Future generations will look back in awe and wonderment at the achievement.
[02:48:31] <BadCoderFinger> Oh yeah, let the young'uns drink it in!
[02:50:09] * SpallsHurgenson fires up some Brutal Doom and revels in the over-the-top gore
[02:53:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wireless Device in Two Million US Cars is Wide Open to Hacking - http://sylnt.us - Progressive-for-the-hackers
[02:57:59] <chromas> Go32 is still around, if you want to make some more DOS programs
[03:21:31] <SpallsHurgenson> do I want to make more DOS programs?
[03:21:43] -!- BadCoderFinger has quit [Quit: Time for Black Adder]
[03:23:19] <chromas> of course!
[03:23:32] <chromas> ride the nostalgia wave
[03:29:32] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't DO nostalgia
[03:29:56] <swiss> oh man, i actually created features
[03:29:57] <swiss> https://github.com
[03:29:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Comparing rsyslog:master...SwissKid:master · SwissKid/liblognorm · GitHub
[03:30:16] <JamesNZ> swiss++ # Moar featurez!
[03:30:16] <Bender> karma - swiss: 6
[03:30:28] <swiss> i don't really code much
[03:30:30] <SpallsHurgenson> swiss++ #more unintentional bugs!
[03:30:30] <Bender> karma - swiss: 7
[03:30:32] <swiss> but i needed this to fuckin work
[03:30:46] <swiss> and i don't want to manage an internal package
[03:30:57] <swiss> so submit it upstream, then other people can deal with the bugs!
[03:31:20] <swiss> i won't pull request until i check a couple thousand lines of logs against it first
[03:37:29] <SpallsHurgenson> wow... there's a massive fire burning about a mile from here
[03:37:50] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently, if I went outside I could see it... but I think I'll just look at it on the internet instead :)
[03:39:39] <juggs> You could get nearer and keep warm for free
[03:40:05] <SpallsHurgenson> it's a pretty big fire; I don't think I need to get closer for that :)
[03:41:04] <juggs> Good job you didn't get that ceiling fixed if the whole house is going to be an insurance job!
[03:42:34] <SpallsHurgenson> it's a whole apartment building... I feel sorry for everyone who just got made homeless
[04:03:13] <SpallsHurgenson> only one thing to do: play more DoooooooooooM!
[04:20:09] * juggs hands SpallsHurgenson the chainsaw
[04:23:03] <SpallsHurgenson> in BrütaLDooM, it's more fun to go hand-to-hand since that way you get to use your "fatalities" :)
[04:25:56] <juggs> lol reminds me of mortal kombat... "FINISH HIM"... uhhhhhh, what's the combo for this dude again... mash, mash buttons, mash some more, maybe one in 50 times the dude would do some ridiculous move and rip the spine out of the opponent or slice them in half. I guess I never got into the detail :)
[04:26:31] <SpallsHurgenson> it's easier in Doom; just walk up to a guy and hit the "kill this thing now" button :)
[04:28:26] <juggs> Well yeh things are pretty easy when you can wander around with the chainsaw going full blast and the AIs ~still~ walk into it.
[04:28:27] <SpallsHurgenson> (huh, the link for Win3 TCP support on Microsoft's website is broken... it's only been 20 years, why aren't they still providing support? :)
[04:34:37] <juggs> I've been having trouble getting support for my LEO I lately too, must be a trend. EELM, ICL and Fujitsu all deny all knowledge of how to operate the thing. I can't believe that. It's only 60 or so years. They must all be in cahoots, probably a conspiracy to deny me rights to support. Sponsored by the illuminati no doubt. The took out the triple towers don't ya know.
[04:35:23] <SpallsHurgenson> okay... got the file; now how to get it onto the win3 vm? :)
[04:37:45] <juggs> virtualised 3.5" or 5.25" floppy drive at a guess.
[04:38:05] <SpallsHurgenson> .iso worked too :)
[04:38:34] <chromas> ooh yeah, they had optical drives back then. MULTIMEDIA!!!
[04:38:43] <chromas> quick! install Encarta and Grolier
[04:38:56] <juggs> Wait.. no you've probably got enough crusty hardware in your lair you could run this on bare metal for the proper experience
[04:39:28] <SpallsHurgenson> I have a 486 on an AT motherboard... but I don't think I have a PSU that would fit
[04:39:38] <chromas> virtualize the psu
[04:39:51] <juggs> virtualize chromas
[04:39:52] <SpallsHurgenson> and I think the smallest hard-drive I have is 10GB, which might cause a few problems :)
[04:40:28] <juggs> "FINISH HIM - VIRTUALIZE CHROMAS" - probably need a 27 button controller
[04:40:45] <chromas> abacabb
[04:41:05] * juggs fiddles while rome burns
[04:41:33] <SpallsHurgenson> up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-B-A-Select-Start!
[04:41:35] <JamesNZ> Some men just want to watch Rome burn.
[04:42:37] * chromas remembers ahead software
[04:42:39] * SpallsHurgenson roams while his fiddle burns
[04:48:18] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, how the hell do you install things in windows 3?
[04:49:02] <juggs> JamesNZ, nugget if wisdom to you. Although I'd rephrase it "Some people"
[04:49:33] <juggs> of*
[04:51:28] <JamesNZ> juggs: Heh.
[04:53:41] <SpallsHurgenson> awww, I want a wisdom nugget too!
[04:54:06] <SpallsHurgenson> teteral+760
[04:54:08] <juggs> I have witnessed people of all genders tear down good work just to satisfy their own selfish need for some kind of control, no matter how short lived. Just tear it down. I call them lilliputian people.
[04:54:22] <SpallsHurgenson> ignore that; that wasn't a password I typed into the wrong window :)
[04:54:48] <SpallsHurgenson> now excuse me, on a completely unrelated note I have to go change a password to one of my online services :)
[04:54:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Are We All Born With Synesthesia? - http://sylnt.us - Let-me-put-my-glasses-on-so-I-can-hear-you-better
[04:56:11] <chromas> what?
[04:56:18] <chromas> All I saw was ***********
[04:57:11] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna fall for that one again!
[04:57:12] * juggs holds a wisdom nugget just out of SpallsHurgenson's reach and plays a laser pointer over it. NO... not yours.
[04:57:33] <SpallsHurgenson> but at least you don't know what online service it was for :)
[04:57:39] <SpallsHurgenson> www.amazon.com
[04:57:41] * JamesNZ whisks it out of juggs' hand and peers at it curiously
[04:57:51] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: Let me guess! Amazon?
[04:57:57] <SpallsHurgenson> erm... uh... ignore that too... just looking to see if... um... the website is up
[04:58:08] <juggs> hfruiffjjkjdkf88484487498fnfd
[04:58:18] <juggs> google.co.uk
[04:58:28] <juggs> oh shit!
[04:58:39] <SpallsHurgenson> well, fortunately none of you know my username shurgenson!
[04:58:56] <juggs> that is a blessing from above
[04:59:00] * JamesNZ nods sagel
[04:59:03] <JamesNZ> sagely*
[05:00:12] <juggs> my how we are all blessed by not having to view your 1 zotatillion pictures of your cat(s) having "hacked" your account. I think I found religion here tonight.
[05:01:37] <SpallsHurgenson> kitty?
[05:04:00] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, I don't have that many pictures of kitty (mostly because she won't sit still long enough for me to get the camera out :)
[05:04:23] <JamesNZ> Let's worship the monkey! http://pasteall.org
[05:04:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I work with a guy who looks remarkably like that
[05:05:05] <SpallsHurgenson> ears might be a bit smaller on the model though
[05:05:09] <JamesNZ> God rays and all?
[05:06:05] <SpallsHurgenson> dunno, he hides from bright lights :)
[05:06:18] <JamesNZ> Heh :P
[05:07:30] <SpallsHurgenson> did you make that model, JamesNZ?
[05:07:32] <JamesNZ> darktable++
[05:07:32] <Bender> karma - darktable: 2
[05:07:42] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: Nope, it's one the Blender primitives.
[05:07:52] <JamesNZ> It's Blender's mascot actually :) She's called Suzanne.
[05:08:32] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, is THAT what counts as a primitive these days? what happened to spheres, cubes and cones? :)
[05:09:15] <JamesNZ> Oh don't worry, they're still there :)
[05:10:02] * juggs gives SpallsHurgenson a rock and some dust. Out to the desert with ye
[05:10:48] <SpallsHurgenson> years and years ago I made a 3D model of the sesame street typewriter robot... dunno what happened to it though
[05:11:15] <SpallsHurgenson> (this guy, if you don't know who I am talking about) http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net
[05:11:25] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[05:13:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I think I used milkshape... it was long ago
[05:13:52] <JamesNZ> What program did you model it in?
[05:15:43] <SpallsHurgenson> literacy is hard :)
[05:16:27] <JamesNZ> Oh, right; I thought that was some obscure modelling method :P
[05:16:59] <SpallsHurgenson> this was high tech stuff once upon a time :)
[05:17:29] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[05:18:35] <SpallsHurgenson> the textures were made in ms paint, of course :)
[05:18:51] <JamesNZ> :o
[05:19:51] <juggs> I think you are forgetting your days modelling clay Spalls
[05:20:52] <SpallsHurgenson> I never modelled clay... although a lot of people say I resemble it quite closely :)
[05:24:22] <SpallsHurgenson> and of course I don't recommend modelling IN clay as it's really hard to get it out of your hair :)
[05:25:45] <juggs> A lot of things are hard to get out of hair. Best just to trim it out.
[05:26:34] <SpallsHurgenson> not my gorgeous pompadour!
[05:29:29] <juggs> whatever you feel comfortable with
[05:30:02] * juggs taps out
[05:59:16] -!- crutchy_ [crutchy_!~AndChat30@1.136.py.xvx] has joined #Soylent
[05:59:36] <crutchy_> coffee++
[05:59:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 989
[05:59:53] <crutchy_> coffee++
[05:59:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 990
[06:00:59] <crutchy_> my kids are being buttfaces :d
[06:02:32] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm going to assume not literally
[06:02:52] <crutchy_> http://m.theaustralian.com.au
[06:02:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03 ( /nocookies )
[06:03:07] <crutchy_> derp
[06:04:03] <crutchy_> america would help youth and unskilled or long term unemployed if it reduced the minimum wage
[06:04:28] <crutchy_> hopefully it happens here. minimum wage is a crime
[06:05:14] <geotti_away> perd, they just introduced it in germany
[06:05:21] <crutchy_> doesnt help anyone but it cuts off unskilled from getting a job
[06:05:34] <geotti_away> stupid ass corporate, capitalist swines
[06:05:52] <geotti_away> sup
[06:05:55] geotti_away is now known as geotti
[06:06:12] <crutchy_> minimum wage isnt really a capitalist thing
[06:06:25] <geotti> it's a stupid thing
[06:07:00] <geotti> it's a bank thang
[06:07:04] <geotti> a derp thang
[06:07:16] <geotti> not everyone understands minimal wage <sings>
[06:07:18] <crutchy_> if a company doesnt thing youre worth it they just let you go, so instead of getting less you get nothing :/
[06:08:00] <crutchy_> progressives in the usa love it. stupid fools
[06:08:07] <geotti> https://www.youtube.com
[06:08:08] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Eddie Amador - House Music (Original mix) HQ 320! - YouTube
[06:08:25] <crutchy_> how you been dude?
[06:08:29] <geotti> its nuts
[06:08:40] <geotti> thanks, been recovering from my stupidity
[06:08:47] <crutchy_> oh lol
[06:08:49] <geotti> should've signed a contract
[06:08:58] <geotti> now i have to sue their asses
[06:09:06] <crutchy_> bugger
[06:09:10] <geotti> s/contract/proper contract/
[06:09:22] <crutchy_> house?
[06:09:28] <crutchy_> or job?
[06:09:38] <geotti> but i've got a thesis to write, so gotta postpone it
[06:09:59] <JamesNZ> What's the thesis about?
[06:10:00] <geotti> oh just some dumbasses who had an idea and just needed a programmer
[06:10:11] <geotti> JamesNZ: immersive graph sequencing environment
[06:10:28] <geotti> JamesNZ: think manipulation of complex graphs in VR
[06:10:28] <JamesNZ> geotti: Sounds... academic :P
[06:10:43] <JamesNZ> VR == Virtual Reality?
[06:10:45] <geotti> yeah
[06:10:51] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[06:11:04] <geotti> actually, pretty practical, but gotta do it academic, it's a master of science after all, not engineering
[06:11:17] <crutchy_> making dinosaur dna in 3d space
[06:11:20] <JamesNZ> Aye.
[06:11:32] <geotti> yeah, could do that too, crutchy_
[06:11:59] <crutchy_> just dont make a velociraptor dude
[06:12:04] -!- SpallsHurgenson has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
[06:12:06] <geotti> heh
[06:12:14] <JamesNZ> So the application would be interacting with graphs with some sort of VR glove?
[06:12:32] <geotti> i was thinking more music, but had to upsell it so made it generalized
[06:12:37] <crutchy_> sell it to the pr0nz industry
[06:12:48] <JamesNZ> geotti: Ah, right.
[06:12:49] <geotti> nah, kinect
[06:12:54] <crutchy_> youll be a gazillionaire
[06:13:12] <geotti> what would the pr0n industry do with a bunch of interconnected dots?
[06:13:14] <geotti> hmm
[06:13:27] <crutchy_> :D
[06:13:34] <geotti> guess you could make em in the shape of boobs
[06:13:36] <JamesNZ> They'd put them together in polygonal shapes.
[06:13:42] <crutchy_> they invented the internet
[06:13:52] <geotti> they sure funded it
[06:13:54] <JamesNZ> Err, no. That was the DoD :P
[06:14:01] <crutchy_> "the internet"
[06:14:14] <JamesNZ> That started from NIST.
[06:14:33] <JamesNZ> (well... sort of)
[06:14:37] <geotti> that's what they wanna make you believe, but DARPA was secretely working for the pin-up industry
[06:14:38] <crutchy_> everyone else just went along for the ride
[06:14:53] <JamesNZ> geotti: *gasp!*
[06:15:16] <geotti> how's the southern hemisphere these days?
[06:15:27] <crutchy_> porn is where most of the worlds bandwidth is used
[06:15:32] <JamesNZ> Warm and sunny :)
[06:15:36] <crutchy_> pretty fkin warm
[06:15:39] <geotti> ah
[06:15:43] <geotti> that sounds nice
[06:15:45] <crutchy_> ~weather
[06:15:52] <crutchy_> !weather
[06:15:53] * geotti hopes to be back in greece before summer
[06:15:56] <geotti> ^weather
[06:16:03] <JamesNZ> crutchy_: SN will be making a dent in their monopoly soon, you'll see!
[06:16:06] * geotti can't stand the climate in germany
[06:16:21] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[06:16:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[06:16:25] <Konomi> parsing yay
[06:16:25] <geotti> neither the political, nor the meteorological
[06:16:33] <crutchy_> ^weather melbourne australia
[06:16:34] <geotti> [Melbourne, Australia] Clear. Temp is 36.3*C but feels like 36*C. NNE wind: 8.0 kph.
[06:16:45] <geotti> wow!
[06:16:53] <geotti> fucking amazing
[06:16:55] <crutchy_> still no fkin a/c
[06:17:00] <geotti> I'd go for a bath right now
[06:17:02] <JamesNZ> crutchy_: :O
[06:17:55] <geotti> Konomi: you know how awesome it is to see curly brackets after working with python for the last week?
[06:18:06] <Konomi> lol
[06:18:07] <geotti> python-- #fuck whitespace
[06:18:07] <Bender> karma - python: -2
[06:18:08] <Konomi> I do ;p
[06:18:21] <Konomi> some of this will be broken up into subroutines later just my first go
[06:18:26] <crutchy_> python--
[06:18:26] <Bender> karma - python: -3
[06:18:33] <geotti> and seriously, whatever they're all raving about, I don't understand
[06:18:46] <crutchy_> geotti: join the dark side :p
[06:18:50] <geotti> the documentation is suboptimal and super-verbose
[06:18:51] <Konomi> I've never liked pyhton much the indenting makes me super mad
[06:19:17] <geotti> many libraries aren't thought through
[06:19:32] <crutchy_> php++
[06:19:32] <Bender> karma - php: 8
[06:19:41] <geotti> you have to jump through hoops to do an inline function (i.e. lambdas)
[06:19:41] <crutchy_> delphi++
[06:19:41] <Bender> karma - delphi: 29
[06:19:57] <geotti> what's the dark side these days, crutchy_ ?
[06:20:00] <geotti> javascript? ;)
[06:20:08] <JamesNZ> Java.
[06:20:10] <crutchy_> php
[06:20:16] <geotti> javascript++ #for letting me do whatever i want the way i want
[06:20:16] <Bender> karma - javascript: 0
[06:20:20] <crutchy_> it has the red lightsabers
[06:20:41] * geotti ate php for breakfast for a long time
[06:21:10] <Konomi> just had to write this up
[06:21:11] <geotti> Java 's cool, a bit too big of a hammer for scripting things, though
[06:21:16] <Konomi> since my earlier passing consisted of
[06:21:24] <Konomi> $line =~ /347/
[06:21:29] <Konomi> lets just say I got some false matches
[06:21:31] <swiss> i like javascript
[06:21:42] <crutchy_> its funny how most languages let you whitespace any which way but you pick one and stick to it religiously
[06:22:12] <geotti> they should add some heuristics to the python interpreter, though
[06:22:19] <JamesNZ> crutchy_: That's a good thing :P
[06:22:21] <Konomi> I generally adapt my code if it's someone elses project to suit their style
[06:22:25] <geotti> like seriously, not running a program because i'm missing ONE space? fuck off
[06:22:36] <geotti> Konomi++
[06:22:36] <Bender> karma - konomi: 42
[06:22:41] <geotti> that's nice
[06:23:17] * geotti is looking into erpnext for some business automation, though and they did it in python...
[06:23:21] <geotti> why, oh why
[06:23:22] <crutchy_> ive never really contributed to other peoples code before
[06:23:23] <Konomi> otherwise I just do my default thing
[06:23:41] <Konomi> crutchy_: and thus why the world is a safer place ~
[06:23:43] <geotti> and it looks like a really good script
[06:23:43] * Konomi hides
[06:23:53] <JamesNZ> #shotsfired
[06:24:00] <crutchy_> id like to program in a team obe day. do the whole circlejerky thing
[06:24:16] <geotti> crutchy_: github's your friend
[06:24:32] <geotti> nothing quite like sending a dozen pull requests all in a different style to troll someone ;)
[06:24:52] * geotti wouldn't know anything about that, of course
[06:25:02] * geotti checks his github feed
[06:25:08] <Konomi> I'd use github if I wanted to be embarassed a lot
[06:25:34] <arti> or you can just talk to ef
[06:26:00] * geotti thinks about parsing ef into github pull requests
[06:26:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bodhi Linux's Founder is Back - http://sylnt.us - bearing-gifts
[06:26:09] <Konomi> I said embarassed not gagging
[06:26:14] <Konomi> ;p
[06:26:28] <arti> incompatible species.
[06:26:56] * geotti thinks it's absurd that Snyder's Pretzel pieces are sold in german supermarkets
[06:27:00] <geotti> globalization--
[06:27:00] <Bender> karma - globalization: -1
[06:27:02] <Konomi> it's the lack of logic I am allergic to it
[06:27:31] <geotti> there's a certain logic, but his premises are all way off
[06:27:38] <arti> i experience inflammation with some of my allergies, take porn for example.
[06:27:48] <Konomi> definitly agree with that geotti ;p
[06:28:01] <arti> have we had a sighting recently?
[06:28:10] <geotti> !seen ethanol_fueled
[06:28:11] <arti> he's kinda like a hippo
[06:28:21] <geotti> why are we talking about him again?
[06:28:27] <Konomi> he's the epitome of logic in the madness
[06:28:37] <arti> the yang
[06:28:41] <Konomi> cause one of you brought him up
[06:28:44] <Konomi> and I was eating too
[06:28:49] <geotti> JamesNZ: were you the one who funded ghost on kickstarter?
[06:28:50] <arti> what'cha eating?
[06:28:58] <Konomi> chetioes
[06:29:00] <JamesNZ> geotti: Nope.
[06:29:20] <geotti> JamesNZ: maybe it was buz
[06:29:30] * Konomi puts away the code and indulges in the reddits
[06:29:33] <geotti> sry : )
[06:29:57] * geotti doesn't reddit/twitter/instagram/facebook/digg
[06:30:10] <Konomi> I don't participate much
[06:30:12] <Konomi> I just scrape
[06:30:14] <JamesNZ> geotti: Diaspora? ;)
[06:30:14] <arti> i tweet, just for prizes.
[06:30:29] <arti> my mighty list of none.
[06:30:29] <Konomi> irc is my home after all
[06:30:32] <geotti> JamesNZ: i have an "account", but noone seems to use it
[06:30:45] <Konomi> despite my various rages of the inconsistent nature of the WHOLE FUCKING PROTOCOL IN MUMBLE TODAY
[06:30:48] <Konomi> grrs
[06:30:48] <Konomi> >.<
[06:30:52] <JamesNZ> geotti: Ah.
[06:31:18] <geotti> the main dev died, I think and it never took off (or something?)
[06:31:43] * geotti is still all for a decentralized feed thingie
[06:32:05] <geotti> keep them edge-points smart and the network a tube
[06:32:11] <geotti> s/tube/dumb pipe/
[06:32:12] <SedNotABot> <geotti> keep them edge-points smart and the network a dumb pipe
[06:32:13] <Konomi> I mean it's generally :address numeric/command channel/nick :string
[06:32:14] <Konomi> but noooo
[06:32:19] <Konomi> then you have
[06:32:22] <Konomi> PING :address
[06:32:28] <Konomi> and a few others
[06:32:31] <arti> irc?
[06:32:39] <Konomi> that just don't follow the freaking consistency of the rest of it at all
[06:32:48] <arti> mumble
[06:32:50] <Konomi> arti: yeah
[06:32:54] <geotti> Konomi: https://regex101.com
[06:32:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Online regex tester and debugger: JavaScript, Python, PHP, and PCRE
[06:32:58] * geotti donated to them
[06:33:01] <Konomi> my regex is fine
[06:33:03] <geotti> but only 5 bucks
[06:33:18] <geotti> yeah, but maybe you want to add some recursion? ;)
[06:33:21] <arti> kinda neato
[06:33:24] <ar> https://github.com
[06:33:24] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03shellfire-dev/shellfire · GitHub
[06:33:27] <Konomi> I've already started muttering words no one can understand while I write my regex lines
[06:33:27] <ar> Konomi: ^ :)
[06:33:36] <ar> !grab Konomi
[06:33:36] <Bender> Added quote 354
[06:33:42] <geotti> heh
[06:33:53] <Konomi> ha libs for bash
[06:33:57] <Konomi> lol
[06:34:07] <arti> crutchy should enjoy this
[06:34:16] <Konomi> tried that once realised I was just over complicating stuff you could already write simply
[06:34:17] <geotti> shellfire++ #starred
[06:34:17] <Bender> karma - shellfire: 1
[06:34:28] <arti> nice find btw ar
[06:35:34] <Konomi> oh god it's in posix
[06:35:40] <Konomi> good luck with that
[06:35:49] <geotti> means it's portable
[06:36:10] <Konomi> means it's going to be a pita to write when you don't have access to the more powerful bash expansions
[06:36:12] <geotti> https://technet.microsoft.com
[06:36:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03POSIX Compliance
[06:36:33] <geotti> I think that's why they have these modules
[06:36:49] <geotti> s/these modules/this collection/
[06:36:49] <SedNotABot> <geotti> I think that's why they have this collection
[06:37:01] <arti> offtopic: http://imgur.com
[06:37:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[06:37:05] <Konomi> good luck to them but I think they'll just over complicate something simple
[06:37:51] <geotti> "because we're fed up with having to install half-an-universe's worth of Ruby, Python and Perl to bootstrap our servers or run CI jobs*"
[06:37:54] <geotti> kudos
[06:37:59] <Konomi> I should send them my array trimming function
[06:38:09] <Konomi> see if they can make it posix compatible
[06:38:19] <geotti> heh
[06:38:53] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[06:38:53] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[06:38:58] <crutchy_> exec is a simple complicated awesome piece of crap
[06:39:15] <geotti> nice ones, arti
[06:39:31] <Konomi> that function was suffering I tell you
[06:39:49] <arti> the guy climbing to look around the hat is awesome
[06:40:40] <Konomi> "Why: Because the shell matters, as shellshock showed us."
[06:40:46] <Konomi> just stop using bash for everything
[06:40:52] <ar> Konomi: you're mixing tabs and spaces :<
[06:41:06] <Konomi> ar: that's just pasteof fucking it up ignore it
[06:41:12] <Konomi> does it for a lot of things
[06:41:21] <Konomi> the raw code is consistent
[06:41:33] <arti> [ citation needed ] :P
[06:43:00] <geotti> where's the trimming part?
[06:43:13] <Konomi> line 18
[06:43:20] <Konomi> if you mean the specific command that trims
[06:43:28] <geotti> oh
[06:43:38] <geotti> nevermind, i was lookng for the value
[06:43:50] <geotti> i.e. how many characters to trim
[06:43:59] <geotti> looks clean, kinda
[06:44:05] <Konomi> it's not
[06:44:06] <Konomi> I hate it
[06:44:17] <Konomi> I couldn't find a way around the end eval either
[06:44:28] <geotti> why was it suffering?
[06:44:45] <Konomi> the indirect ref' was hard to find how to do
[06:47:56] * geotti thinks that he might need this some day, but has no idea, where to save it to to find it later...
[06:48:31] <geotti> mate++
[06:48:31] <Bender> karma - mate: 5
[06:48:35] <geotti> caffeine++
[06:48:35] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 68
[06:48:38] <geotti> tea++
[06:48:38] <Bender> karma - tea: 369
[06:50:16] * geotti goes off to do some work
[06:50:26] * arti salutes
[06:50:33] <arti> catching up on stuff, been a long day
[07:11:21] <geotti> Wow, this is nuts, they even have an mqtt client in bash: https://github.com
[07:11:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03raphaelcohn/bish-bosh · GitHub
[07:11:30] <crutchy_> tater_cakes++
[07:11:30] <Bender> karma - tater_cakes: 1
[07:11:32] <geotti> s/bash/shell/
[07:11:32] <SedNotABot> <geotti> Wow, this is nuts, they even have an mqtt client in shell: https://github.com
[07:12:06] <geotti> pure awesomeness. Thx, ar
[07:12:13] <crutchy_> is there a bash compiler written in bash?
[07:13:00] <chromas> <ciri> chromas: My niece had a solution, i'd better wet my noodle tonight.
[07:13:50] <chromas> we should all install command.com and use batch files
[07:14:07] <chromas> on linux
[07:14:16] <geotti> in response to: chromas | ciri: I grabbed your niece and filled her buttpipe" that's a good response ;)
[07:15:29] <chromas> butt* and grabbing is a common theme 'round here
[07:15:42] <crutchy_> people in this channel only miss out on so much
[07:15:45] <swiss> i wrote my irc bot in bash
[07:15:57] <chromas> Soylent's code runs on buttmagic
[07:16:08] <chromas> swiss: nice. You still have a copy?
[07:16:09] <crutchy_> I wrote a little bot in bash
[07:16:20] <geotti> I could write a book about the butt...
[07:16:24] <swiss> chromas: https://github.com
[07:16:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SwissKid/iibot · GitHub
[07:16:32] <crutchy_> back when xlefay was talking about a logging bot
[07:16:39] <swiss> i based it on ii, though i could rewrite that with nc, but why
[07:16:42] <arti> lumberjacks eh
[07:17:01] <crutchy_> I think I used sic
[07:18:15] <crutchy_> then I lost the plot and made exec
[07:18:49] <geotti> swiss does it use env variables? ;))
[07:19:38] <chromas> ooh
[07:19:49] <swiss> geotti: i don't remember
[07:19:50] <swiss> lol
[07:19:58] <chromas> I wonder if iibot would be exploitable with a slightly older version of bash
[07:20:07] <crutchy_> swiss: can you introduce us to it?
[07:20:18] <swiss> the server it ran on had a major hard disk failure
[07:20:32] <swiss> the great hard drive failure of 2012
[07:20:39] <swiss> or 2013
[07:20:43] <swiss> RIP 3 TB of movies
[07:20:46] <crutchy_> !cat /etc/passwd
[07:20:55] <arti> "movies"
[07:21:03] <swiss> arti: mostly anime
[07:21:08] <chromas> wink
[07:21:09] <arti> bible black?
[07:21:19] <swiss> no porn on it though, since i didn't want the others in my dorm stealing it
[07:21:46] <arti> the hd or the files?
[07:21:58] <swiss> either
[07:22:02] <swiss> they can't touch
[07:22:08] <arti> sounds like a challenge
[07:22:44] <crutchy_> tama, "no porn" means "created pornhub"
[07:22:56] <geotti> lol
[07:22:58] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[07:22:59] <geotti> no ciri
[07:23:15] <swiss> arti: they weren't that bright either though
[07:23:22] <geotti> ciri should loose the smiley at the end of that line
[07:23:25] <chromas> ^weather ciri
[07:23:26] <geotti> [Cirimido, Italy] Light Rain. Temp is 3.1*C but feels like 2*C. NW wind: 5.6 kph. Humidity: 99%.
[07:23:38] <arti> loosen it up eh
[07:23:46] <crutchy_> that explains a lot
[07:23:49] <chromas> geotti: s/*/°/g
[07:23:49] <SedNotABot> <chromas> <geotti> [Cirimido, Italy] Light Rain. Temp is 3.1°C but feels like 2°C. NW wind: 5.6 kph. Humidity: 99%.
[07:23:50] <swiss> but i was running a reverse proxy to the dorms with autossh to access it from anywhere
[07:24:02] <swiss> ^weather swiss
[07:24:04] <geotti> [Swissvale, Pennsylvania] Overcast. Temp is 0.8*C but feels like 1*C. Humidity: 92%.
[07:24:07] <swiss> :(
[07:24:38] <crutchy_> ^weather buttsauce
[07:24:38] <geotti> Invalid query. Try again.
[07:25:01] <crutchy_> red_bull++
[07:25:01] <Bender> karma - red_bull: 1
[07:25:06] <geotti> mate++
[07:25:06] <Bender> karma - mate: 6
[07:25:22] <chromas> ^weather ";cat /etc/fstab;\
[07:25:23] <crutchy_> maaaaaaaaaaaaate++
[07:25:23] <geotti> Invalid query. Try again.
[07:25:23] <Bender> karma - maaaaaaaaaaaaate: 1
[07:25:34] <chromas> crutchy_: thought you were an xfce guy
[07:25:54] <geotti> chromas: it's not in bash
[07:25:57] <crutchy_> im a trayan xfce guy :p
[07:26:04] <crutchy_> *strayan
[07:26:19] <arti> yeah
[07:26:24] <arti> o/
[07:26:54] <chromas> oh
[07:27:06] <chromas> ^weather ";exec("cat /etc/fstab");\
[07:27:06] <geotti> Invalid query. Try again.
[07:27:17] <crutchy_> ^weather ciri; cat /etc/fstab
[07:27:17] <geotti> Invalid query. Try again.
[07:27:40] <crutchy_> its the only way to be sure :d
[07:28:31] <chromas> ^weather "};join 0
[07:28:32] <geotti> Invalid query. Try again.
[07:28:33] <arti> great movie
[07:28:40] <arti> ...but it's a dry heat!
[07:30:14] * geotti thinks you'll end up 'sploiting wunderground instead of my bot ;)
[07:31:26] <chromas> wundermap++
[07:31:26] <Bender> karma - wundermap: 2
[07:35:30] <geotti> http://sputniknews.com
[07:35:32] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03US Submarine Force Opens to Enlisted Female Sailors / Sputnik International
[07:35:34] <geotti> gangbangs++
[07:35:34] <Bender> karma - gangbangs: 1
[07:35:47] * Konomi releases the gerbils
[07:36:01] <Konomi> hmm that wasn't the best line to randomly type after that comment
[07:36:05] <Konomi> oh well ~
[07:36:27] <crutchy_> $burrito gerbils
[07:36:28] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at gerbils
[07:36:51] <arti> hahahaha
[07:37:43] * crutchy_ wonders if konomi was giving away a little more than intended
[07:38:28] * crutchy_ tries to imagine what might possibly be done with a gerbil in a gangbang
[07:38:44] * crutchy_ comes up short :/
[07:39:04] <geotti> maybe it's what gerbils would do to a gangbang?
[07:39:15] <arti> sounds like we need a simulator
[07:39:24] <arti> Gerbilception
[07:39:35] <geotti> first to create an iphone app earns a million bucks
[07:39:43] <arti> "earns"
[07:39:51] <geotti> true
[07:39:53] <crutchy_> Subsentient's next project :D
[07:39:59] <arti> he only codes teh C
[07:40:33] <Konomi> gerbils gang banging obviously
[07:40:35] <Konomi> ;p
[07:41:01] <crutchy_> !grab the previous line before the last
[07:41:31] <Konomi> !nope
[07:41:53] <arti> http://i.imgur.com
[07:42:44] <crutchy_> ciri needs some lovin
[07:42:53] <arti> upgrades?
[07:43:36] <crutchy_> ooh
[07:43:50] <crutchy_> I was just thinking torments :p
[07:44:25] <geotti> gerbils++
[07:44:25] <Bender> karma - gerbils: 2
[07:44:36] <geotti> !whoup gerbils
[07:44:36] <Bender> uppers of gerbils are: geotti: 1, Subsentient: 1
[07:44:44] <geotti> hm ;)
[07:44:48] <arti> uppers of gerbils sounds like a good band name
[07:45:06] <arti> UoG
[07:51:29] <geotti> gerbil sounds like a good project name
[07:51:48] <geotti> gerbil-project.org
[07:54:02] <crutchy_> http://www.gerbilporn.com
[07:54:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[07:54:09] <crutchy_> :p
[07:54:36] <crutchy_> http://mileycirusgerbils.com
[07:54:37] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[07:54:41] <crutchy_> aww
[07:55:53] <geotti> https://www.youtube.com
[07:55:53] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03NIIA - BODY - YouTube
[07:56:05] * geotti heard she likes gerbils
[08:07:52] <geotti> http://www.wired.com
[08:07:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale | WIRED
[08:08:15] <Konomi> yay
[08:08:41] <crutchy_> my toshiba could be open sauce
[08:09:55] <Konomi> bunnie is our hero
[08:11:20] <crutchy_> ~define bunnie
[08:14:09] <geotti> http://www.wired.com
[08:14:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Project HoloLens: Our Exclusive Hands-On With Microsoft's Holographic Goggles | WIRED
[08:14:29] <geotti> MS embrace, extend, extinguish meta AR
[08:27:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tucows Hopes To Kickstart U.S. Broadband Competition One Town at a Time - http://sylnt.us - baby-steps
[08:28:51] <crutchy_> wtf? tucows?! blast from the past
[08:30:04] <crutchy_> what was that search engine that was around during the altavista days?
[08:30:10] <crutchy_> excite?
[08:30:25] <chromas> a bunch
[08:30:38] <crutchy_> the internet used to be awesome
[08:31:03] <chromas> lycos, web crawler, metacrawler, ask jeeves, alltheweb, et cetera
[08:31:29] <crutchy_> there was one with a name like "excite"
[08:31:30] <chromas> dogpile
[08:31:35] <chromas> excite
[08:31:45] <crutchy_> might have been
[08:31:58] <crutchy_> I thought it was spelled different
[08:32:10] <chromas> I god a cd from them; had a demo of Total Annihilation
[08:32:23] <chromas> oh, it had a ! at the end
[08:32:27] <crutchy_> http://www.excite.com
[08:32:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03My Excite
[08:32:52] <crutchy_> hehe still looks similar
[08:33:01] <chromas> they also had an instant messenger
[08:33:49] <crutchy_> I used to chat on msn a bit
[08:34:10] <chromas> it was still around until just a few months ago
[08:35:10] <chromas> microsoft-- # for killing wlm for skype
[08:35:10] <Bender> karma - microsoft: -10
[08:35:21] <crutchy_> irc is the new msn :p
[08:35:41] <crutchy_> aww crap. my phone is about to dead
[08:36:07] <chromas> not many irc clients support avatars
[08:36:11] <chromas> plug it in!
[08:36:21] <arti> avatards
[08:37:43] <chromas> it's the only way to compete with wlm
[08:37:46] <chromas> and status messages
[08:39:15] <arti> ctcp notices?
[08:39:26] <arti> #appears as chromas
[08:42:08] -!- crutchy_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[08:44:39] <geotti> what's wlm?
[08:44:45] <chromas> well there's /away but that's it
[08:44:50] <chromas> windows live messenger
[08:44:54] <geotti> oh
[08:44:58] <geotti> icq++
[08:44:58] <Bender> karma - icq: 1
[08:45:54] <chromas> my number expired on that
[08:46:01] <geotti> xmpp then
[08:46:13] <geotti> with jingle
[08:46:18] <geotti> pretty nifty
[08:46:28] <geotti> http://prosody.im
[08:46:40] <chromas> ooh I should install jingle
[08:46:42] <geotti> http://jitsi.org
[08:46:43] <chromas> what is it?
[08:46:44] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03jitsi.org | Jitsi ( https://jitsi.org )
[08:47:23] <geotti> it's an extension to xmpp
[08:47:24] <geotti> https://en.wikipedia.org(protocol)
[08:47:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Jingle (protocol
[08:47:29] <geotti> for video
[08:47:38] <geotti> (and audio)
[08:48:10] <chromas> oh neat, I guess my server already supports it
[08:48:13] <geotti> it just needs NAT punching, but you can do with an external STUN server
[08:48:15] <chromas> assuming the server's involved
[08:48:47] <geotti> yeah, needs to be enabled
[08:50:21] <chromas> I'm running prosody. Most servers seem to be written in java for some reason :/
[08:50:43] <geotti> prosody is very good
[08:50:51] <geotti> (written in Lua of all things)
[08:50:56] <geotti> lua++
[08:50:56] <Bender> karma - lua: 1
[08:51:05] <geotti> and there's ejabberd in erlang
[08:51:18] <geotti> but prosody is really the way to go I'd say
[08:51:47] <geotti> easy to set up, configure, helpful support, lot's of modules, etc.
[08:51:53] <geotti> oh, and good docs
[08:52:06] <geotti> heard good things about ejabberd as well, though
[08:52:34] * geotti still didn't get around to encapsulating it in a docker container, though
[08:53:26] * geotti overlooked the "I'm running prosody." part ... :)
[08:54:02] * geotti is excited about xmpp
[08:54:50] <chromas> it'd be cool to use it to replace all those whatsapp and shit mobile applications but I haven't found an android client that does file transfers
[08:55:44] <geotti> you could hack jitsi
[08:56:53] <geotti> an easy hack would be to do file-upload through 1fichier.net & co and sharing the link
[08:57:20] <geotti> i.e. one-click hosters without waiting time and stuff
[08:57:54] <geotti> jitsi people seem like a friendly bunch too
[09:00:47] <geotti> off to do some work
[09:00:58] <chromas> see ya
[09:01:54] <JamesNZ> magit++
[09:01:54] <Bender> karma - magit: 1
[09:03:53] -!- crutchy_ [crutchy_!~AndChat30@1.136.py.xvx] has joined #Soylent
[09:04:08] <chromas> charged already?
[09:04:22] <crutchy_> just got in the car
[09:04:56] <chromas> that means your family can read this over your shoulder. HEY crutchy_'s family!
[09:11:36] -!- SirFinkus has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
[09:25:11] -!- crutchy__ [crutchy__!~AndChat30@1.136.py.xvx] has joined #Soylent
[09:25:11] -!- crutchy_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[09:30:36] -!- crutchy_ [crutchy_!~AndChat30@1.136.py.xvx] has joined #Soylent
[09:30:36] -!- crutchy__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[09:39:41] -!- crutchy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[09:39:41] -!- JamesNZ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[09:40:17] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[09:40:18] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03AIM spam - 100 IMs in 13 minutes - YouTube
[09:41:30] <chromas> 13 minutes in 9:56
[09:45:07] <chromas> haha, he finally started using the clipboard
[09:47:58] <Konomi> yeah ;p
[09:58:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In Theory, the Milky Way Could Be a 'Galactic Transport System' - http://sylnt.us - made-by-really-big-worms
[10:29:43] <ar> The big question is: will we be able to play worms while inside wormholes?
[10:33:08] -!- crutchy [crutchy!~crutchy@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net] has joined #Soylent
[10:33:51] -!- exec [exec!~exec@utioner/T-800/BeVeryAfraid] has joined #Soylent
[10:34:35] <crutchy> ++coffee
[10:34:35] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 231
[10:39:20] <crutchy> "[Shazam] has been downloaded more than 500 million times."
[10:39:33] <crutchy> where are these 500 million users?
[10:39:34] <ciri> somewhere out on the WEB i guess crutchy
[10:39:44] <crutchy> well, yeah i guess.
[10:39:57] <crutchy> dammit ciri that was a smarty arse comeback :p
[10:41:11] * crutchy wonders whether sales and usage figures are being inflated too
[10:41:39] <crutchy> 'oh we had a few million downloads'... 'a few million!? well, 500 is a few!'
[10:44:32] <chromas> it doesn't say users
[10:46:36] <crutchy> how many times does one need to download an app to be able to use it?
[10:47:22] <crutchy> i suppose there could be 450 million downloads where people tried it and uninstalled it cos they thought it was shit
[10:47:36] <chromas> what's this? (install)…(uninstall)…what was this again? (install)
[10:47:50] <chromas> also broken phones and stuff
[10:47:55] <crutchy> but still... 500 million!?
[10:48:08] <crutchy> half a BILLION!?
[10:48:39] <chromas> they probably round up to the nearest 500 million
[10:48:53] <crutchy> that's more than the entire population of the USA. that's nearly half the total population of china.
[10:49:21] <chromas> there's probably some marketing firm that downloads your product over and over
[10:49:31] <chromas> well, we could make a SoylentApp and watch the stats
[10:49:36] <crutchy> hehe
[10:49:56] <chromas> make a Pro version that costs $20 and comes with a 'free' year subscription to soylent
[10:50:08] <chromas> $25 and pocket some
[10:50:13] * crutchy wonders how many times exec has been downloaded. prolly 1. oh well that's nearly 100 million :D
[10:51:30] <crutchy> github makes a good source code backup
[10:52:19] <crutchy> i kinda wish i could have somehow gpl'ed my work app. most of it was developed at home, but those pesky employment contracts rope it in
[10:53:19] <crutchy> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[10:53:20] <Hedonismbot> * 03Microsoft to give away Windows 10 free for first year • The Register
[10:53:29] <crutchy> embrace...
[10:56:02] <crutchy> is it just me or do we seem to be a bit behind the 8 ball? though maybe that doesn't matter so much anyway
[10:58:41] <chromas> We could make an open sauce program that does what yours does, then your work can pay you to work on it and replace your current one :)
[11:01:44] <crutchy> i would have to get a job in a different industry :/
[11:02:02] <crutchy> pretty much anything related to my work is theirs
[11:02:11] <crutchy> invention clauses totally blow :(
[11:02:13] <chromas> By default
[11:02:19] <crutchy> but they're very common
[11:02:43] <chromas> But if there's another existing thing you could maybe convince them to make an exception
[11:03:16] <chromas> Or if you could bribe them to believe releasing the code wouldn't give your competitors an advantage
[11:03:21] <crutchy> too much work gone into it to just remake it again
[11:03:31] <crutchy> the original one has taken years
[11:03:43] <chromas> But now you can do it in php
[11:03:48] <chromas> Or python
[11:03:53] <crutchy> it already is php :D
[11:04:29] <chromas> Oh yeah. I was thinking 100% Delphi for some reason
[11:04:43] <crutchy> i wrote a simple wiki engine in about 2.5k loc
[11:09:23] <chromas> They're gonna get you for exec
[11:09:38] <crutchy> nah its not work-related
[11:10:51] <crutchy> the wiki isn't either, but its embedded into the rest of the system
[11:11:54] <crutchy> feel like doing something cody
[11:12:03] <crutchy> might do a search for TODO:s
[11:12:38] <chromas> Soon, exec will have integration with it though 😉
[11:13:22] <crutchy> 23 todo:s
[11:13:40] <crutchy> hehe nah. not sure how useful it could be at work
[11:17:29] <crutchy> hmm. might do some more debugging of unit attacks in irciv
[11:21:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:21:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 991
[11:22:14] <geotti> crutchy: you could help me debug that static site generator for ghost
[11:22:25] <geotti> ;)
[11:22:49] <geotti> it's in python, tho
[11:22:55] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com
[11:22:57] <Konomi> I laughed
[11:23:20] <geotti> ~define gamergate
[11:23:22] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3gamergate: A word used to describe the events surrounding the Zoe Quinn Scandal, when gaming journalists refused to cover the incident, and instead attacked and generalized their audience.
[11:23:40] <Konomi> yeah I wouldn't exactly use UD to get this query
[11:23:50] <crutchy> meh. gamergate is sooo yesterday :p
[11:24:05] <Konomi> http://rationalwiki.org
[11:24:08] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Gamergate
[11:24:10] <Konomi> crutchy: they're still amusing me
[11:24:34] <Konomi> if you want extra amusement check the talk page for that wiki article
[11:24:37] <crutchy> not that i ever followed it in the first place
[11:25:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you want extra amusement wait until the numbers start coming out for all the advertisers who let their contract run out at year's end and didn't renew.
[11:26:02] <crutchy> "Literally none of Gamergate's advocates' claims of "what really happened" hold up under scrutiny — including claims that may initially seem plausible."
[11:26:08] <Konomi> intel put like a huge amount of money into diversity support recently
[11:26:08] <crutchy> yeah that seems objective
[11:26:13] <Konomi> so I'll await that lack of funding \o/
[11:26:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, they put in into sarkesian's whatzit
[11:26:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> big difference
[11:26:48] <Konomi> as far as I know no company has pulled funding (besides temporarly) because of gamer ghazi
[11:27:01] <Konomi> intel was like oh we'll pull our ads
[11:27:08] <Konomi> ohhh shittt nevermind diversity funding
[11:27:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> ads are still pulled and gawker is down seven figures according to gawker
[11:28:18] <geotti> ~define gawker
[11:28:20] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3gawker: A shitty collection of websites.
[11:28:26] <geotti> hehe
[11:28:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i'm all about diversity and all about not getting it shoved down my throat
[11:28:32] <Konomi> guess who owns UD ;p
[11:28:38] <Konomi> also my fav quote of the day
[11:28:40] <Konomi> "If a certain consumer-driven revolt walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and claims “the bitch deserved it” when you throw it in the water, it is misogyny."
[11:28:50] <Konomi> had to laugh at that
[11:29:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun fact, the hashtag is more diverse than the gaming industry
[11:30:58] <Konomi> the hashtag?
[11:31:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #GamerGate
[11:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> more women and minorities in it than the gaming industry by a long shot.
[11:33:00] <Konomi> got any statistics on that?
[11:33:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://twitter.com for up to the moment examples... hang on for diversity study...
[11:33:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Tweets about #notyourshield hashtag on Twitter
[11:34:42] <Konomi> I'll add this
[11:34:43] <Konomi> https://medium.com
[11:34:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0372 Hours of #Gamergate — The Message — Medium
[11:34:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me, harassment study. http://gamergate.me
[11:34:50] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03GamerGate | Yeah Science! A Data Study on Harassment and GamerGate
[11:37:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw not with geeks, we do science.
[11:38:09] <Konomi> yeah....
[11:38:19] <Konomi> right from gamerghazi home base
[11:38:58] <Konomi> I thought you were talking about divesrity statistics this looks like harassment statistics?
[11:39:07] <Konomi> also there's no mention of retweets are they all original?
[11:39:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> you expect the msm to publish anything like that?
[11:39:47] <Konomi> well I asked for statistics on that not how many of them maybe were harassing people ;p
[11:39:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't fit their narrative
[11:40:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i lost the link to that, taking longer to find
[11:41:13] <Konomi> looks like the survey has issues as they admit
[11:41:17] <Konomi> well statistics
[11:42:14] <Konomi> they don't exactly say how they match them either
[11:42:25] <Konomi> was the harassment just search for phrases that direct insults etc?
[11:42:30] <Konomi> did they hand go through them?
[11:44:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> slept since then, hafta reread
[11:44:34] <Konomi> I can't find any methodology on this page at all
[11:44:56] <Konomi> or raw data
[11:45:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> raw data's legit not there, it's on twitter. methodology is likely under the Methodology heading though.
[11:47:28] <Konomi> that methodolgy doesn't even tell you what words they were matching
[11:47:36] <Konomi> and they'd have to pull the data down to search it in the first place...
[11:49:27] -!- SirFinkus [SirFinkus!~SirFinkus@71.197.zmm.nkk] has joined #Soylent
[11:51:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> latest big fun to come out of the hashtag, a gay man exposing a feminist activist as a white supremacist
[11:52:32] <Konomi> ah okay then
[11:52:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> then promptly getting doxed and sent pictures of BBCs to his phone.
[11:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> which was kinda counterproductive being as he's gay and likes the BBC
[11:53:57] <Konomi> who doxxed him?
[11:54:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> the feminist activist
[11:54:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> posted an email he sent her with his cellphone number in it
[11:54:38] <Konomi> who exactly is this "feminist" activist?
[11:54:54] <Konomi> and why is it important they guy is gay in the first place?
[11:56:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not especially except for the part where the harassers were sending him dick pictures
[11:56:31] <Konomi> who are these people got links?
[11:57:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, the story? https://archive.today and http://theralphretort.com should catch you up
[11:57:10] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Breitbart: Shanley Kane Has A Colorful Past
[11:57:11] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Even Gawker Can't Ignore Shanley's Implosion Courtesy of Milo (UPDATE)
[11:57:29] <Konomi> oh milo vs shanley
[11:57:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's pretty funny to watch
[11:57:56] <Konomi> she already said that "the surprimist" stuff is from the past btw
[11:58:00] <Konomi> she has a write up on pastebin
[11:58:18] <Konomi> http://pastebin.com
[11:58:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> past? three years ago is not "the past"
[11:58:18] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03My Statement - Shanley - Pastebin.com
[11:58:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyone else doing that three years ago the msm would burn at the stake.
[11:58:51] <Konomi> msm?
[11:58:57] <SirFinkus> true, but that doesn't mean they should
[11:58:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> mainstream media
[11:59:08] <SirFinkus> I've certainly evolved on positions in 3 years
[11:59:37] <SirFinkus> I make it a habit to assume good faith, everyone has stupid shit in the past
[11:59:40] <SirFinkus> of course be suspicious
[12:00:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Washington DC's Public Library Will Teach People How to Avoid the NSA - http://sylnt.us - evading-big-brother's-ever-present-eye
[12:00:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> you evolve positions pretty quickly then.
[12:01:10] <Konomi> SirFinkus: same for me ;p
[12:01:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> either way, nobody goes from white supremacist to diversity worker in three years and means it.
[12:01:21] <SirFinkus> if I hear good arguments from the opposing side, I'll change my mind
[12:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> guy who was boning her a year ago said she was still spouting racism then too but i didn't save the link to that one.
[12:01:58] <SirFinkus> nobody? that's rather cynical
[12:02:06] <Konomi> that was weev
[12:02:14] <Konomi> she said she was just going along with it at the time
[12:02:23] <Konomi> it's all in that pastebin if you can be bothered to read it it's pretty long
[12:02:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> already read, yeah.
[12:02:39] <SirFinkus> well, that might be different, I could be suspicious if she says this things in private
[12:02:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> just don't believe.
[12:03:24] <Konomi> SirFinkus: she is pretty messed up imo and spouted some hasty comments so I expect she'll recieve more drama
[12:04:03] <Konomi> she was dating weev after all
[12:04:04] <SirFinkus> I don't necessarily believe her, it just doesn't seem relevant "x is a racist" isn't a good argument, it's ad hominem
[12:04:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that is not a mark in her favor. weev is a freakin tool and a half.
[12:04:27] <Konomi> dude came out of jail with a swastika tatooed on his chest
[12:04:28] <SirFinkus> it could be a good argument if x is trying to present data
[12:04:34] <SirFinkus> relevant to race
[12:04:36] <Konomi> definitly not a good choice in BFs...
[12:05:00] <SirFinkus> so then you could argue "x is a racist, so you should take a closer look at those graphs"
[12:05:04] <Konomi> guy is a slime bag and even more creepy now he got out of jail
[12:05:08] <crutchy> nighty night
[12:05:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[12:05:41] <geotti> night crutchy
[12:05:43] <Konomi> he's been championed a lot as a freedom fighter though
[12:05:44] <Konomi> irony ;p
[12:05:46] <Konomi> night crutchy ~
[12:06:10] <SirFinkus> weev is interesting, he has a lot of good things to say, but the whole racism thing is pretty bleh
[12:06:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, i mark that up as even a broken clock bring right twice a day kind of thing
[12:07:46] <SirFinkus> I find the whole shunning thing the community is going with distasteful too, just because the guy's all 14/88 doesn't mean he should be ignored
[12:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ow ow ow ow! brain pain!
[12:08:03] <Konomi> also in other news
[12:08:06] <Konomi> moot is leaving 4chan
[12:08:12] <Konomi> I guess the crazies got toxic enough for him to run
[12:08:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, don't blame him for selling but he built the bloody thing for toxic speech. whining about it now is kinda disingenuous.
[12:09:02] <Konomi> well GG started there
[12:09:03] <SirFinkus> "toxic speech"
[12:09:13] <Konomi> and when he told them stop going on about it it's shitting up the boards
[12:09:16] <Konomi> it went off to 8chan
[12:09:23] <Konomi> and they kinda hate him for that
[12:23:02] -!- idetuxs [idetuxs!~idetuxs@653-119-566-05.prima.net.ar] has joined #Soylent
[12:23:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> all this GG talk has inspired me to spend the morning playing video games instead of coding. well, that and the mondo headache i got bout 15m ago.
[12:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> bug you lot later.
[12:24:06] -!- TheMightyBuzzard has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[12:24:08] <Konomi> don't need gg to inspire me to game ~
[13:04:34] geotti is now known as geotti_away
[13:04:36] <geotti_away> laters
[13:31:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DEA Did Bulk Collection of Americans' Phone Calls Before NSA Did - http://sylnt.us - collect-it-all
[13:35:44] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[13:35:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Brand Killer - YouTube
[14:17:20] <SirFinkus> so electric cars are required to make noise to warn pedestrians
[14:17:40] <SirFinkus> if I ever get one, I want to hack it so it plays the benny hlll theme
[14:18:24] <Konomi> lol
[15:19:53] -!- TheMightyBuzzard [TheMightyBuzzard!bob@Soylent/Staff/Developer/TMB] has joined #Soylent
[15:19:53] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v TheMightyBuzzard] by juggler
[15:32:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - HoloLens - Microsoft's Augmented Reality Product - http://sylnt.us - more-likely-than-flying-cars
[15:54:59] -!- SirFinkus has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
[16:29:32] -!- Bytram|away [Bytram|away!~pc@Soylent/Staff/Developer/martyb] has joined #Soylent
[16:29:32] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Bytram|away] by juggler
[16:30:32] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[16:34:32] <Bytram> !uid
[16:34:32] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5022, owned by Revek
[16:35:50] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[16:35:52] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA, USA - currently 33°F / 1°C, mostly cloudy, wind W at 11 mph, humidity 65% - Thursday chance of snow showers (25°F-37°F / -4°C-3°C), Friday partly cloudy (27°F-37°F / -3°C-3°C), Saturday snow (25°F-34°F / -4°C-1°C), Sunday partly cloudy (14°F-36°F / -10°C-2°C) - source: Google
[16:36:01] <Bytram> coffee++
[16:36:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 992
[16:36:08] <Bytram> poutine--
[16:36:08] <Bender> karma - poutine: -373
[16:36:10] <Bytram> =)
[16:38:35] -!- SirFinkus [SirFinkus!~SirFinkus@71.197.zmm.nkk] has joined #Soylent
[16:38:39] <Bytram> Hi All!
[16:38:51] <Bytram> anyone seen blackmore lately?
[16:42:58] <Bytram> *crickets*
[16:48:21] * Konomi creeps behind Bytram
[16:49:13] * Bytram turns around
[16:50:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> not in a week or two, no
[16:50:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> !seen blackmore
[16:50:15] <ciri> TheMightyBuzzard, I don't remember seeing blackmore.
[16:50:16] * Bytram and wonders what's next
[16:50:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, thought we had a seen thing
[16:51:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: thanks for the info; I noticed he had two stories ready to go, but about 15 minutes apart.. wanted to check in with him as to his preference
[16:51:50] <Bytram> nah, you misunderstand, the "!" means "not" - not seen! (not!)
[16:52:27] * Bytram wonders what Konomi is intending to do
[16:52:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna have a lay down now. headache bout wiped me out.
[16:54:39] <Konomi> pain killers lots of them
[16:54:39] <Bytram> sorry to hear you have a headache -- it's really tough to do *anything* with one of those.
[16:55:45] <Bytram> my experience has often been that the shortest distance between dispair and hope is a good sleep
[16:56:57] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ # just because
[16:56:57] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 131
[16:57:07] <SirFinkus> provided you can sleep
[16:57:13] <SirFinkus> a good walk helps too
[16:58:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:59:08] <Bytram> maybe I should learn how to walk in my sleep?
[16:59:45] <Bytram> nah - would wake up tired.
[16:59:48] <Konomi> if you ever feel a headache coming on just take the pain killers
[16:59:54] <Konomi> in my experience it works out better
[17:00:25] <Bytram> Got it! Just dream of walking in my sleep! All the benifits without the work[out]!
[17:00:58] <Bytram> Konomi: that helps, but sometimes there's things I just got to make it through.
[17:06:49] <Konomi> I used to avoid meds more but now I am just stuff it I'd rather not endure the headaches
[17:09:08] <Bytram> yuppers. As time passes, I find I don't bounce back quite as quickly as I used to -- prevention becomes more efficacious
[17:34:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Over 930M Android Users in Danger as Google Stops Delivering Critical Patches - http://sylnt.us - two-years-is-too-old
[17:39:44] <Konomi> time to patch those phones
[17:40:15] * Bytram didn't realize his was leaking and now goes in search of some duct tape
[17:46:28] <Bytram> afk
[17:54:34] -!- JamesNZ [JamesNZ!~james@43-567-441-22.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #Soylent
[17:58:28] * Bytram waves a friendly hello at JamesNZ
[18:00:28] <JamesNZ> Hey Bytram :)
[18:00:45] <Bytram> g'day!
[18:01:11] * Bytram wonders if the "NZ" in your nick is a reference to the land of kiwis
[18:01:32] <JamesNZ> Yep, 'tis so.
[18:02:02] <Bytram> my my my! What time IS it "down" there?
[18:02:16] <JamesNZ> Just past 7AM :)
[18:02:32] <Bytram> and the date?
[18:02:41] <JamesNZ> Jan 23rd.
[18:03:04] <Bytram> so you are about ... let's see ... /me starts counting fingers...
[18:03:36] <Bytram> it's 1305 on 01/22, here
[18:04:05] <Bytram> so it looks like you are 18.5 hours ahead of me?
[18:04:22] <Bytram> oh, wait
[18:04:40] <Bytram> 18 hours ahead.
[18:04:54] * Bytram hs no idea where I got the extra 30 minutes from!
[18:05:04] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[18:05:09] <swiss> JamesNZ: i been meaning to come visit your land of sheep
[18:05:28] <swiss> been thinking of coming in july or august and coming snowboarding
[18:05:30] <JamesNZ> swiss: Cool :) For a holiday or so?
[18:05:33] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[18:05:35] <Bytram> JamesNZ: I wonder how your date/time compares to crutchy's
[18:05:49] <JamesNZ> Bytram: We're 2 hours apart, I think.
[18:06:17] <Bytram> that's pretty close! so, what time would it be for him?
[18:06:21] <Bytram> ~time crutchy
[18:06:22] <exec> Friday, 23 January 2015 @ 5:06 am GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[18:06:25] -!- SirFinkus has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
[18:06:31] <Bytram> ~time JamesNZ
[18:06:32] <exec> Friday, 23 January 2015 @ 7:06 am GMT+13 - Wellington, New Zealand 7:51 AM Chatham Island (GMT+13:45)
[18:06:36] <Bytram> =)
[18:06:41] <Bytram> ~time Bytram
[18:06:43] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Thursday, 22 January 2015, 6:06 pm
[18:06:46] <Bytram> LOL!
[18:07:07] <Bytram> ~time boston
[18:07:08] <exec> Thursday, 22 January 2015 @ 1:07 pm EST - Boston, MA, USA
[18:07:21] <Bytram> that's close enough for where I am
[18:07:37] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[18:08:07] <Bytram> looks like time goes really fast once you get past the equator!! =)
[18:08:44] <JamesNZ> Heh :P
[18:08:56] * Bytram chuckles
[18:18:46] <Bytram> http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[18:18:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Profitable phishing schemes slyly tinker with our heads, then rip us off -- ScienceDaily ( http://www.sciencedaily.com )
[19:13:30] -!- idetuxs has quit [Quit: leaving]
[19:14:49] -!- SirFinkus [SirFinkus!~SirFinkus@71.197.zmm.nkk] has joined #Soylent
[20:15:21] -!- slash2phar [slash2phar!~nugget@v41.45.623.65.cable.wynd.cablerocket.net] has joined #Soylent
[20:38:36] <chromas> $seen Blackmoore
[20:38:36] <aqu4> I last saw blackmoore at 2014-10-24 23:47:52 UTC in #soylent. Their most recent message is "nope can't do this on the new phone"
[20:38:44] <chromas> !seen Blackmoore
[20:39:34] * chromas spanks ciri
[20:52:34] <crutchy> ~q
[20:52:36] <exec> successfully saved buckets file (43.5 kb)
[20:52:44] -!- exec has quit [Quit: dafuq]
[20:52:47] -!- crutchy has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[20:52:50] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[20:52:51] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Get a monochrome laser printer with Wi-Fi for $29.99 - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[20:53:04] <Bytram> * toner extra?
[20:55:00] <Bytram> As with any printer you're considering, you'll want to investigate the cost of consumables. Pantum provides only a starter toner cartridge, good for about 700 pages, and Newegg sells full-size Pantum PB-210 cartridges for $39.99. I couldn't find them anywhere else, so you're pretty much stuck with that price -- but it's pretty competitive for a monochrome toner cartridge.
[20:55:18] <Bytram> http://www.newegg.com
[20:55:19] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Pantum P2502W Wireless Monochrome Laser Printer - Newegg.com
[21:37:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Linux Foundation Self-Paced Sysadmin Course to Prep you for Certification - http://sylnt.us - !bofh
[21:53:14] <ar> https://github.com
[21:53:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03itchyny/calendar.vim · GitHub
[22:11:42] <Bytram> [SecurityWeek] - Anonymous-linked Journalist Barrett Brown Gets Five Years' Prison - http://feedproxy.google.com
[22:11:43] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Barrett Brown Gets Five Years' Prison | SecurityWeek.Com ( http://www.securityweek.com )
[23:13:40] <paulej72> ~weather
[23:13:57] <paulej72> !help
[23:13:57] <Bender> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[23:14:01] <Bender> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[23:14:30] <paulej72> I think exec is ignoring me
[23:14:40] <paulej72> ~time
[23:15:19] <paulej72> no, just quit for no appaent reson
[23:15:42] <Bytram> paulej72: hi there! how's things?
[23:15:59] <paulej72> busy as hell
[23:16:25] <Bytram> busy-fun or busy-overloaded?
[23:17:19] <paulej72> i am bascially paying for slacking off that I did for the past 5 or so months.
[23:17:29] <Bytram> ouch.
[23:17:44] * Bytram finds it hard to imagine paulej72 "slacking off"
[23:17:56] <Bytram> !uid
[23:17:59] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5022, owned by Revek
[23:18:59] <paulej72> I think I was a bit depressed and was finding it hard to get into doing my normal computer setup work. I had one laptop in my office since september that I just gor reimaged a week and a half ago
[23:19:15] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:19:27] <Bytram> sometimes, I can't seem to start on *anything*
[23:19:33] <Bytram> build up intertia
[23:19:40] <paulej72> I would look at the laptop and think I have so much to do on that, I can find something else to do in the hour I have available
[23:19:55] <Bytram> it helps to just pick something, no matter how small, and get it done.
[23:20:19] <paulej72> then when I almost had it setup the hard drive I installed in it died.
[23:20:21] <Bytram> then, that's one less thing hanging over me, and I have the feeling that I've at least accomplished *something*
[23:20:28] <Bytram> OUCH!
[23:21:01] <Bytram> now that you've been down the install path, and recently, should go a lot quicker once you have a new drive in it. Right?
[23:21:18] <paulej72> it was a brand new drive too. and although I got it from dell, it was a miss ship that they did not send me the labels to retur, so i thought I would use it
[23:21:51] <Bytram> a new drive? who makes it?
[23:22:27] * Bytram nervously considers the nearly 9-year-old drive in his laptop
[23:22:27] <paulej72> yes the second time was a bit faster, but I then go the sister laptop to this to do at the same time. it did not like our current image so I had to build it up from bare win7 install
[23:23:01] <Bytram> windows installs are not fun -- I've somehow managed to not need to do it on my box.
[23:23:08] <paulej72> Western Digital black 320GB, I suspect that it was miss handled in shipping at some point
[23:23:18] <Bytram> I'm sure my registry is cluttered all to hell. :/
[23:23:43] <Bytram> I've only had one WD drive and that was a USB external.
[23:23:51] * Bytram has no idea where it is now.
[23:23:55] <paulej72> a fresh install of any windows os has a registry cluttered all to hell.
[23:24:16] <Bytram> LOL
[23:24:35] <Bytram> and then imagine 9 years of usage ON TOP of that!
[23:24:59] <paulej72> I have had no real problems with the normal WD drives. The green 2 TB ones though were a bit more problematic.
[23:25:30] <Bytram> biggest drive I have atm is a 500GB external; main drive is only 80GB.
[23:25:44] <paulej72> Plus I had two 1 TB greens that were new unopened that were sitting around for a few years that were DOA
[23:26:09] <Bytram> that's a worrying sign.
[23:26:27] <Bytram> reminds me of Micropolis in their "hey day"
[23:26:52] <Bytram> they actually shipped BRICKS to meet their sales quotas. :P
[23:27:01] <paulej72> I spend some of my time imaging drives onto larger ones to upgrade older machines. I have 4GB drives that I keep arround just in case someone with an old machine nees a matching drive
[23:27:40] <Bytram> spread the bits around so they are not only in one place -- smart!
[23:27:55] * Bytram backs up changed files every day
[23:27:57] <paulej72> Again the two 1tb drives were not in my posession so they may have been abused as well
[23:28:25] <Bytram> well, it was worth a try and if it had worked out, would have been a real win.
[23:28:35] <paulej72> I backup my home machine when I do something significant like download pictures from my camera
[23:28:50] <Bytram> nod nod
[23:29:27] <Bytram> I wrote a batch program that, when I've finished with stuff in the AM before I go to work, I just basically set it up to copy over the changed files and then go hibernate.
[23:30:14] <paulej72> great news, the one machine I was working on whose monitor would not sleep is now sleeping. I think restting the power profile to default or resttting the BIOS did the trick
[23:30:36] <Bytram> for some reason, windows gives me "access denied" messages on a number of files... haven't bothered to look into why, as an admin on the box, I can't copy them.
[23:30:51] <Bytram> That IS good news!
[23:31:31] <Bytram> thought you might find this interesting...
[23:31:54] <Bytram> at the rate we are going, it looks like we're on track to have published 5000 stories by our first anniversary of the site!
[23:31:59] <paulej72> that is usually due to the file being owned by System or Tursted Installer which have higher privs than Admin. You may want to take ownership of the files then reset the permissions back to default
[23:32:22] * Bytram does not know how
[23:32:23] <paulej72> 5k stories and ~5k users
[23:32:40] <Bytram> HEY! that makes TEN K!!!
[23:32:42] <Bytram> =)
[23:32:58] <Bytram> hmmm, how many comments are we at?
[23:33:08] <paulej72> shitload
[23:33:27] <Bytram> looks like we're over 137,000
[23:33:46] <Bytram> most-recent story has this comment on it: http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:46] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by Arik (4543)
[23:34:24] <Bytram> hmmm, are all the comments counted the same? Or, are there different counts for comments to: stories, journal articles, and polls?
[23:34:30] <paulej72> http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[23:35:03] <paulej72> I believe there is only one comment count for them all
[23:35:22] <Bytram> kewel!
[23:35:45] <paulej72> we did have 2K of spam comments that I killed, or was it more
[23:35:51] <Bytram> is that because we only have one nexus?
[23:36:03] <Bytram> that many? wow!
[23:36:26] <Bytram> hey! that reminds me... gonna check the hold queue on the submissions
[23:36:28] <Bytram> brb
[23:36:30] <paulej72> no nexuses use the same count as well
[23:37:05] <Bytram> so there's just one honking big list of comments and the various parts of the site point at it?
[23:38:32] <Bytram> it's taking a long time for the submissions page to come up
[23:38:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Asset Forfeiture and the Cycle of Electronic Surveillance Funding - http://sylnt.us - criminal-intent
[23:39:13] * Bytram continues to wait patiently
[23:40:20] <Bytram> on a different note, a couple days ago I turned on the e-mail of site stats on the main site... haven't seen anything in my inbox yet. :/
[23:43:56] <Bytram> looks like the last spam story submission we got (and that was move to "hold") was on 1/14. Looks like things are letting up on that front!
[23:44:42] <Bytram> and, on that note, I'm supposed to be somewhere in 45 minutes so I've got to get myself going here.
[23:44:57] <Bytram> nice talking with ya! Good luck on your reinstalls!
[23:45:07] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[23:45:46] -!- Bytram|away has quit [Quit: Leaving]