#Soylent | Logs for 2015-01-21

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[23:59:36] <juggs> never tried LXC. Probably should give it shot :)
[23:54:23] <BadCoderFinger> juggs: vbox kinda bites, on Linux use LXC, heh!
[23:53:49] <swiss> rather than contribute, making a friend do it so I don't have to worry about submitting pull requests and stuff
[23:53:30] <swiss> needed a new feature from open source thing, figured out the basics of what i needed
[23:53:03] <swiss> i'm a terrible person
[23:52:45] * juggs dies from old age waiting for virtualbox to create a new vdi
[23:35:57] <BadCoderFinger> I'm pretty much in the same boat as mechanicjay, my fingers just know the init.d path.
[23:25:44] <chromas> service httpd restart --> systemctl restart httpd
[23:25:30] <chromas> I always used service so it's just a swap of the service name and its command
[23:23:29] <BadCoderFinger> Programmable completion should solve that, but you shouldn't have to.
[23:23:19] <mechanicjay> sure systemctl with no params, in newer versions will actually list all the services, which is handy.
[23:22:33] <mechanicjay> actually, since httpd used to just be a script, I really enjoyed pretty much tab completion for the names of the services rather than having to intuit them as I do now.
[23:22:03] <BadCoderFinger> Clearly the loser!
[23:21:15] <mechanicjay> :)
[23:21:01] <mechanicjay> syst[tab]c[tab] reload httpd is 18 -- fuck systemd!
[23:20:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The State of Play for ArduPilot on Linux - http://sylnt.us - penguins-to-infinity-and-beyond
[23:20:27] <BadCoderFinger> Those are hard to break.
[23:20:21] <BadCoderFinger> Probably more like a long standing habit.
[23:20:03] <mechanicjay> maybe it's a matter of keystrokes. /et[tab]in[tab]ht[tab] restart is 17 strokes
[23:19:16] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[23:18:55] <mechanicjay> it's almost enough for me to want to make wrapper script called /etc/init.d/
[23:17:57] <BadCoderFinger> Sounds about right.
[23:16:44] <mechanicjay> Honestly, when my brain off-loads the 'restart apache' command to my fingers, they still type '/etc/init.d/httpd reload'. It takes a serious conscious effort to type 'systemctl reload httpd' instead.
[23:14:25] <mechanicjay> /etc/init.d/chromas reload
[23:14:17] * juggs .quiet *!*@*
[23:12:47] <chromas> hey guys. systemd! beta! HOSTS!!123
[23:09:50] * mechanicjay makes lot of noise
[23:09:42] <mechanicjay> I can make some noise
[23:06:05] <BadCoderFinger> Quiet in here... too quiet...
[22:23:00] <BadCoderFinger> (I love Hyperdrive...)
[22:22:37] <BadCoderFinger> "When you see the enhanced doing that, someone help it!"
[22:21:52] <ciri> X
[22:21:50] <ciri> IX
[22:21:48] <ciri> VIII
[22:21:46] <ciri> VII
[22:21:44] <ciri> VI
[22:21:42] <ciri> V
[22:21:41] <ciri> IV
[22:21:40] <juggs> III
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[22:01:26] <Bytram> gtg
[22:01:23] <Bytram> glad to hear it's going a bit better; best of luck to you!!!!!!!!!
[22:01:09] <Bytram> =)
[22:01:07] <Bytram> mechanicjay: O'Rly? You don't say!
[21:59:06] <mechanicjay> That would be the ultimate cosmic joke against humanity, we're taken out by an AI that just back talks with too much snark and too many non-sequiturs.
[21:58:22] <chromas> Terminator 9: the quest for more cash
[21:58:01] <chromas> those are the sequels
[21:57:53] <chromas> That's why it counts up
[21:57:05] <BadCoderFinger> ciri becomes Skynet...
[21:53:36] <BadCoderFinger> AI has to start somewhere...
[21:53:25] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[21:51:47] <mechanicjay> also, I've always just hated ciri
[21:51:29] <mechanicjay> Bytram: yeah, got some of the last of real estate stuff smoothed over....I *THINK* we're just waiting for closing at this point.
[21:51:16] <Bytram> haven't been out that way in, what, 20 years, but who knows? It's a small world, yanno?
[21:50:45] <Bytram> much obliged!
[21:50:30] <BadCoderFinger> If you get to Denver, I'll lend you my copies, heh. At some point you'll get to read again.
[21:49:24] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: thanks for the recommendation, but in light of what I'd previously written, I'm just fresh out of time.
[21:49:23] <ciri> III
[21:49:23] <chromas> II
[21:49:00] <Bytram> mechanicjay: btw, last I saw you were curing at ciri... is your day going better, I hope?
[21:48:51] <BadCoderFinger> I highly recommend Iain M. Banks' Culture novels.
[21:48:16] <BadCoderFinger> Likewise! Find some reading time!
[21:47:57] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: I truly enjoyed our conversation today -- brought back many a happy memory! thanks so much!
[21:47:36] <BadCoderFinger> Ok, good luck!
[21:47:23] <Bytram> and, with that, I really should be going!
[21:47:03] <Bytram> so, I should be good going forward, and I can quickly identify the "odd one out" should I ever find the time to really clean it up.
[21:46:29] <Bytram> and, as a default from now on, curl.exe points to the newest one.
[21:46:02] <Bytram> curl.7_40_0.exe
[21:46:01] <Bytram> curl.7_15_2.exe
[21:45:59] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: since I had both versions of the .exe lying around, I just named them appropriately:
[21:45:50] <BadCoderFinger> So it can make a difference at startup time.
[21:45:47] <mechanicjay> was just a thought.
[21:45:39] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, but the SSL stuff is linked in, instead of dynamically loaded.
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[21:45:17] <Bytram> hmmm, I'm only using HTTP stuff, no SSL.
[21:45:14] <BadCoderFinger> Compiling a specific version is not an option?
[21:44:34] <mechanicjay> I hit a curl problem when going from RHEL 6 -> 7. In RHEL 7 curl is linked to the NSS ssl libraries rather than the OpenSSL ssl libraries. Which caused all sorts of ssl specific stuff to be unhappy.
[21:44:16] <SedNotABot> <Bytram> since I only had that one program using curl at the time, I just modified my program to use theold copy of curl
[21:44:16] <Bytram> s/an the /the/
[21:44:03] <Bytram> so, since I only had that one program using curl at the time, I just modified my program to use an the old copy of curl
[21:43:23] <Bytram> I dunno. Never did figure out was different and exploring and debugging for a while...
[21:42:58] <BadCoderFinger> Command line option changes?
[21:42:04] <Bytram> well, it worked fine until i upgraded from curl 7.15.2 to curl 7.40.0 in one big jump.
[21:41:14] <Bytram> There's actually two permanent redirects (IIRC) before it finally comes to a permanent landing
[21:41:11] <BadCoderFinger> A .bat file... I see where your going, but a bat file is not really the best way to go about it, heh!
[21:40:51] <Bytram> looks a little bit different, now, from the original?
[21:40:33] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03And now for the alleged iPhone 6 extreme sandpaper test - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[21:40:32] <Bytram> for example, take this url: "http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/cnet/tcoc/~3/5e7tR5f1CWs/story01.htm"
[21:40:20] <BadCoderFinger> Wow! Ouch...
[21:40:05] <Bytram> i.e. find the final redirected to location.
[21:39:57] <Bytram> nah, that'd be realtively easy... a windows batch program which uses gnu awk and curl to recursively follow URLs until they stop 301-ing
[21:37:47] <BadCoderFinger> Perl script?
[21:34:21] * Bytram upgraded to a newer version of curl which broke a utility of mine; debugging a recursive program is SO much fun!
[21:25:59] <BadCoderFinger> The whole cyberpunk genre where the corporations have become the government.
[21:24:36] <BadCoderFinger> It's sad that authors like Gibson should become revered as prophets.
[21:22:14] <Bytram> there, that's better!
[21:22:13] <BadCoderFinger> Wait till Spalls sees that!
[21:22:09] <Bender> karma - badcoderfinger: 5
[21:22:09] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger++
[21:22:05] <Bender> karma - badcoderfinger: 4
[21:22:05] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger++
[21:22:05] <Bender> karma - badcoderfinger: 3
[21:22:05] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger++
[21:22:04] <Bender> karma - badcoderfinger: 2
[21:22:04] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger++
[21:22:02] <Bytram> wot?
[21:22:00] <BadCoderFinger> Ha!
[21:21:55] <Bender> karma - badcoderfinger: 1
[21:21:55] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger++
[21:21:53] <BadCoderFinger> "The phone is free, and so are the calls!"
[21:21:53] <Bytram> you nailed it!
[21:20:39] <BadCoderFinger> It would be like if the NSA was the only phone company.
[21:20:16] <BadCoderFinger> I agree wholeheartedly!
[21:19:58] <Bytram> BadCoderFinger: for that reason, and that reason alone, do I support them in their efforts. In no case whatsoever would I actually use it... even if it cost me no $$$
[21:19:37] <BadCoderFinger> Although AT&T has only pioneered "Fiber to the Press Release."
[21:19:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ubuntu Core for Smart Devices, aka "Snappy," Released - http://sylnt.us - at-least-it's-not-called-Syncopated-Sheep-or-Slutish-Saola
[21:19:08] <mechanicjay> agreed, that was a super insightful comment.
[21:19:06] <BadCoderFinger> The one good thing about google's fiber is that it might scare the providers into some sort of action.
[21:18:46] <Bytram> and lo and behold but just a few hours later, we have a story on the site about google wanting to get in on the insurance market
[21:18:24] <Bytram> thanks!
[21:17:40] <BadCoderFinger> Spot on about google.
[21:14:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by martyb (76)
[21:14:45] <Bytram> I was reminded of him when I wrote this comment yesterday: http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:10] <Bytram> but, that's kinda throwing the bay out with the bathwater kind of thing.
[21:13:49] <Bytram> mechanicjay: Yes, there are many gems. OTOH, once in a while I read something by him and think he has it all backwards and that he's just too full of himself.
[21:13:08] <Bytram> Ah!! Might help explain how they are getting so good at making low-power processors?
[21:12:56] <mechanicjay> Bytram: Joel has a metric crap ton of good stuff to say
[21:12:28] <BadCoderFinger> Intel bought most of what they had.
[21:12:19] <BadCoderFinger> They were bought.
[21:12:05] <Bytram> I wonder whatever happened to Transmeta?
[21:11:55] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Strategy Letter II: Chicken and Egg Problems - Joel on Software
[21:11:55] <Bytram> just finished reading: http://www.joelonsoftware.com
[21:11:24] <BadCoderFinger> Napping works, heh.
[21:09:42] <Bytram> Maybe I should take a nap?
[21:09:35] <Bytram> yeah, me neither.
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[21:08:38] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, that whole sleeping thing... Not sure how to get around it yet.
[21:05:06] <Bytram> and to make things even more challenging, I occsionally have to sleep! =)
[21:04:40] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, that doesn't leave much time.
[21:03:19] <Bytram> and I live alone, so there's housekeeping, groceries, laundry, etc., too!
[21:02:50] <Bytram> I've got a full-time job. I spend at least 5-6 hours a week with an outside organization. Easily that much more each week editing stories here and doing testing.
[21:02:43] <BadCoderFinger> Plus, I just read a lot. It's always been recreation, and it still seems like it.
[21:02:09] <Bytram> yup.
[21:01:22] <BadCoderFinger> Something will have to give, heh!
[21:01:12] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Strategy Letter I: Ben and Jerry's vs. Amazon - Joel on Software
[21:01:12] * Bytram just finished re-reading an oldie but goodie: http://www.joelonsoftware.com
[21:00:44] <Bytram> I'm already overcommitted each day -- where *can* I find the time?
[21:00:30] <Bytram> I think that part of it is the knowlege that if I should get back into the habit of reading books, I'm not going to have any time left!
[20:59:32] <BadCoderFinger> I read in the evenings, if I'm not watching Black Adder, heh.
[20:57:54] <Bytram> sadly, I can't remember the last time I sat down and read an entire *book* though I probably read more each day than I used to!
[20:54:48] <BadCoderFinger> The Culture novels are excellent.
[20:54:38] * Bytram wonders just how many books he has read over the years. At least a couple hundred.
[20:54:33] <BadCoderFinger> Like Iain M. Banks. The world is a slightly duller place now.
[20:53:47] <Bytram> I was greatl;y saddened to learn he had passed away.
[20:53:34] <Bytram> They started losing their luster when they brought on someone to help him out.
[20:53:19] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I'll admit it!
[20:53:09] <Bytram> inane and stupid, yes, but still a lot of fun!
[20:52:50] <Bytram> and Prevects!
[20:52:43] <Bytram> Skyve!
[20:52:27] <Bytram> IoI was really thought-provoking, each entirely changed how I looked at the main character's "position" in the "world"
[20:51:48] <BadCoderFinger> Asprin's stuff wasn't bad either.
[20:51:41] <Bytram> ^^ YES!
[20:51:31] <BadCoderFinger> Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series wasn't bad. But I was young then.
[20:51:31] <Bytram> I found those to be fun, light-hearted reads.
[20:51:14] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[20:51:13] <Bytram> How about Robert Aspirin?
[20:50:59] <Bytram> Well, the first few were actually kind of fun... and then it became too formulaic for my tastes. A limp story line used to weave together a bunch of bad puns
[20:50:05] <Bytram> LOL!
[20:49:33] * BadCoderFinger pukes a little.
[20:49:29] <BadCoderFinger> Xanth!
[20:48:52] <Bytram> ah, c'mon! The Magic of Xanth wasn't THAT bad! :P
[20:48:25] <Bytram> that's for sure, and none of them were short books, either.
[20:48:15] <mythterj> Series deteriorate perportional to the number of books in my experience... Beyond 6 or 8, forget it.
[20:48:04] <BadCoderFinger> That's a lot!
[20:47:13] <Bytram> Holy Shit! There are now 17(!) books in the Recluce series!!!!!!
[20:46:50] <BadCoderFinger> I liked Shannara, but I wish he hadn't kept on writing prequels.
[20:46:25] <BadCoderFinger> Heh
[20:45:59] <Bytram> I'd put it up there with the Shanara series
[20:45:35] <Bytram> plenty of detail to provide easy visualization without stooping to the level of John Boy in The Waltons, if you know what I mean?
[20:45:04] <Bytram> great writing style.
[20:44:52] <Bytram> HIGHLY recommended!
[20:44:38] <BadCoderFinger> That sounds familiar...
[20:44:29] <Bytram> AHA! The Magic of Recluce
[20:43:45] <BadCoderFinger> Then try Amber.
[20:43:39] <Bytram> this is driving me NUTS! brb
[20:43:38] <BadCoderFinger> Start with Lord of Light.
[20:43:22] <Bytram> sorry to say, haven't read anything by him, either.
[20:43:20] <BadCoderFinger> I loved the first 5 Amber books, and I really love Lord of Light.
[20:43:05] <Bytram> Really changed my world view of a number of things.
[20:43:01] <BadCoderFinger> A bit like Zelazny, then.
[20:42:51] <Bytram> order vs chaos.
[20:42:46] <Bytram> Dark vs Light, but in the reverse way than one would ordinarily think about them.
[20:42:16] <BadCoderFinger> Ah, Modesit, I have some of his books, but not read them yet.
[20:41:54] <Bytram> By L.E. Modessit Jr.
[20:41:49] <BadCoderFinger> I liked the Book of the New Sun, and I loved the Book of the Long Sun.
[20:41:41] <Bytram> Oh! And another series.... hold on...
[20:41:30] <Bytram> I guess not, don't recognize the name.
[20:41:15] <BadCoderFinger> Speaking of Silk, are you a Gene Wolfe fan?
[20:41:06] <Bytram> The knight (what WAS his name) would always head pell-mell into danger.
[20:40:46] <Bytram> Silk -- could always be counted on to be sly and more knowledgeable than he let on, for example.
[20:40:25] <Bytram> Many of the names escape me, now.
[20:40:15] <Bytram> The characters were absolutely consistent in their manerisms and behaviors all the way through!
[20:39:58] <BadCoderFinger> Wow, pretty serious!
[20:39:43] <Bytram> I actually cried when I got to the end.
[20:39:30] <BadCoderFinger> I was warned off of everything else, heh.
[20:39:25] <Bytram> The Belgariad and the Mallorean quintologies (yes 5 books and 5 more books) were phenomenal!
[20:39:15] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I've read the Belgariad.
[20:39:01] <Bytram> BTW, have you read anything by David Eddings?
[20:38:45] <Bytram> read dune 1,2,3 when I was a teen, too.
[20:38:16] <Bytram> my perspective has changed a lot
[20:38:09] <Bytram> I'm a little older, now.
[20:38:01] <Bytram> well, I was about 13 or 14 when I read Foundation.
[20:37:57] <BadCoderFinger> 4 was so distant from the first 3, they might well have been separate series.
[20:37:16] <BadCoderFinger> I don't know, I found a lot of good in the later books.
[20:37:09] <Bytram> ditto on Asimov's Foundation series
[20:36:54] <SedNotABot> <Bytram> I read dune 1-3 and (IIRC 4) and then gave up. another one that was milked too much
[20:36:54] <Bytram> s/ker/ked/
[20:36:50] <Bytram> I read dune 1-3 and (IIRC 4) and then gave up. another one that was milker too much
[20:36:19] <Bytram> yeah! that's the name!
[20:36:17] <Bytram> back
[20:34:45] <BadCoderFinger> At least it wasn't Kevin J. Anderson. Dune is now irrevocably destroyed.
[20:32:53] <BadCoderFinger> I just can't bring myself to drag through another one.
[20:32:30] <BadCoderFinger> No idea if he's any good or not.
[20:32:14] <BadCoderFinger> Brandon Sanderson.
[20:31:47] <Bytram> (heh, and the cicle continues =)
[20:31:22] <Bytram> afk
[20:31:19] <Bytram> could you check it out on wikipedia for me? I needs to use the rest room. back in a bit.
[20:31:07] <BadCoderFinger> Somebody somewhat good picked it up, but I can't remember who.
[20:30:52] <Bytram> I heard the last book was out last december?
[20:30:43] <Bytram> No terry brooks, that name I do know and it wasn't him/her.
[20:30:41] <BadCoderFinger> I don't think it's ended yet, heh.
[20:30:17] <Bytram> so, that was a long-winded way of asking whether, now that the series is done, was the ending "good enough"?
[20:30:02] <BadCoderFinger> Didn't Terry Brooks pick up writing them?
[20:29:46] <Bytram> that, and I think he'd so hyped the ending he was afraid to actually have to deliver!
[20:29:45] <BadCoderFinger> Yep. Then even death couldn't stop the books coming out.
[20:29:22] <Bytram> it was obvious he was just trying t boost the word count.
[20:29:11] <Bytram> I just got tired of reading about Yet Another Temporary Character who was lavishly described, who carried on some trite conversations, maybe had some minor story arc implication, and then disappeared.
[20:28:59] <BadCoderFinger> He sort of solved all the problems, but didn't stop writing.
[20:28:35] <BadCoderFinger> Me too! I think I finished book 9, and swore off the rest.
[20:28:18] <Bytram> I'm a trooper when it comes to reading, but even I finally gave up at some point.
[20:28:14] <BadCoderFinger> Jordan did wander off in the weeds a lot.
[20:27:56] <Bytram> so far as I could see.
[20:27:56] <BadCoderFinger> Started dragging around book 3, if I remember correctly.
[20:27:52] <Bytram> about 6 or or books in, it was a slow slow slog of reading lotsa pages for practially no effect in the overall story arc,
[20:27:28] <BadCoderFinger> Yep, it was.
[20:27:19] <Bytram> Long ago, I read the first book in the "Wheel of Time" series by Jordan. First book was a page turner...
[20:26:55] <Bytram> which reminds me!
[20:26:40] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, true!
[20:25:57] <Bytram> yes, there are some things in life best left unknown. and with that, we seem to have gone full circle.
[20:24:46] <BadCoderFinger> I'm sure my brother got revenge somehow. I'm better off not knowing for sure, heh!
[20:23:58] <Bytram> I am *so* sorry!
[20:23:10] <BadCoderFinger> There was a guy who was in Vietnam, and not quite right. Killed my brother's dog.
[20:22:52] <Bytram> wo ho ho! Yikes!
[20:22:32] <BadCoderFinger> We liked to go exploring when we were kids. Turns out, that wasn't the best area for that.
[20:21:55] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[20:21:29] <Bytram> =)
[20:21:26] <Bytram> I was thinking more of the residents than the landscape, but the latter part of your sentence does send a not-so-subtle warning.
[20:20:33] <BadCoderFinger> The open areas were nice, but they tended to be farmland. And farmers are armed.
[20:18:52] <Bytram> up here in the northeast USA, we're pretty-much bundled up for several months of the year!
[20:18:24] <Bytram> but not so bad on the eyes?
[20:18:09] <BadCoderFinger> An intellectual desert.
[20:17:57] <BadCoderFinger> I grew up in the American south.
[20:17:38] <BadCoderFinger> I cannot claim any real intelligence, just that I asked him about his platform. And he really couldn't answer much, and finally said, "I'm not an expert on health insurance policy."
[20:17:33] * Bytram nods with seeming understanding
[20:16:27] <BadCoderFinger> You're right for most of the loudmouths. But where I grew up, understanding any of the issues was a rarity, so "hotness" counted.
[20:15:54] <Bytram> heh... to be a fly on the wall during THAT conversation!
[20:15:32] <Bytram> those loudmouths are not going to suggest a candidate is a good choice just because they are "hot".
[20:15:12] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, I had the republican representative candidate stop by my house to ask for my vote. Poor guy was woefully unprepared for me.
[20:15:00] <Bytram> say it enough times and people will come to believe it
[20:14:53] <Bytram> I'm more of a mind, though, that it is the loudmouths who vie for public attention and who hold sway with people's ideas
[20:14:17] <Bytram> interesting point.
[20:14:08] <BadCoderFinger> So no real defense necessary.
[20:13:59] <BadCoderFinger> Mostly it's a party affiliation.
[20:13:43] <BadCoderFinger> That's true, but only when people have to defend their choice. Hardly anyone puts much thought into to or what they are voting for.
[20:12:04] <Bytram> Think back to the election with Sarah Palin. She was a "looker" and I'm sure that garnered some support, but it only, really, gets you so far in the court of public opinion... of what people are prepared to say to defend their choice
[20:11:03] <Bytram> or, maybe they were afraid to believe that they really wanted that, too.
[20:10:21] <BadCoderFinger> I knew a guy that ran a porn video shop. He said people would start out renting the tame stuff, then eventually over months rent what they were really after. Afraid of the cashier's judgment, I guess.
[20:10:14] <Bytram> how many politician's careers have been dragged down by extramarital activities? Society does not condone it.
[20:09:24] <BadCoderFinger> That is very true.
[20:07:36] <Bytram> there is a huge divide between what people want and what people will admit they want.
[20:06:58] <BadCoderFinger> It does make me wonder why congress is not populated by porn stars.
[20:06:32] <Bytram> and those are people who can vote.
[20:06:21] <BadCoderFinger> We live in a sad, sad world.
[20:06:13] <BadCoderFinger> Seriously, "naked hobbits" was number 3.
[20:05:53] <BadCoderFinger> I did a test run of the top 1000 searches against my test code. It was... disturbing.
[20:05:20] <Bytram> no one should have to experience that.
[20:05:13] <Bytram> I offer you my condolences.
[20:04:12] <BadCoderFinger> I used to work for a web search company. You see things you can't unsee.
[20:03:58] <Bytram> ding! ding! ding! ding!
[20:03:33] * BadCoderFinger mutters something about the Nintendo power glove and failed promises...
[20:03:13] <BadCoderFinger> Porn, clearly. All technology turns to porn eventually.
[20:01:29] <Bytram> yeah, keep goin'... and why did people buy the VCRs? What did they *really* want to watch?
[20:01:16] <mechanicjay> no more ciri, no more ciri -- this makes me giddy.
[20:01:00] <mechanicjay> I <3 me /ignore
[20:00:41] <BadCoderFinger> Despite my great age, all I remember about the VCR wars was the betamax fight.
[20:00:23] <mechanicjay> lol
[20:00:10] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[20:00:10] <Bytram> LOL
[19:59:52] <BadCoderFinger> Bluescreen message: "Your location data failed to upload from address 0xFC000008, press any key to reboot your glasses"
[19:59:19] <Bytram> close. what actually drove the sale of VCRs?>
[19:58:45] <BadCoderFinger> Heh. The Surveillance Industrial State!
[19:58:27] * Bytram left some out
[19:58:19] <SedNotABot> <Bytram> But, I'll give you just ONE guess what industry will be all hot to embrace the technology?
[19:58:19] <Bytram> s/that/what industry/
[19:58:09] <BadCoderFinger> Kinect?
[19:57:58] <Bytram> But, I'll give you just ONE guess that will be all hot to embrace the technology?
[19:57:58] <BadCoderFinger> The "path-generation process" is pretty much manual.
[19:57:28] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I believe that to be the case. So no bet, heh.
[19:57:24] <Bytram> this may a step along the same lines, but using the output of this as an *input* to the path generation process.
[19:56:51] <Bytram> I'm sure there's a huge QA effort to make sure the uploaded program has no "gotchas"
[19:56:33] <Bytram> IRC, they construct a drive path ahead of time, and then upload that to the lander to follow.
[19:56:08] <Bytram> weasel words: "will be able to" ... but will they?
[19:55:38] <Bytram> and just make sure you never, ever, sneeze!\
[19:55:29] <BadCoderFinger> I'm going to bet dinero that it's not used to control Curiosity. Also, I'll put up some American money.
[19:54:55] <Bytram> danger will robinson!
[19:54:36] <Bytram> Kipman said the development of HoloLens was shrouded in secrecy and Microsoft had a special partner: NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. JPL is going to use HoloLens to analyze data from the Curiosity rover and build explorable hologram maps of Mars this summer, and boffins will be able to use it to control the rover by July.
[19:53:36] <BadCoderFinger> Or a cyanscreen, which will look more whitescreen than a whitescreen.
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[19:52:57] <Bender> karma - insensitiveclod: 1
[19:52:57] <BadCoderFinger> insensitiveclod++
[19:52:45] <BadCoderFinger> (On a side note, I'm finally an insensitive clod! Do I get a party, or what?)
[19:52:08] <BadCoderFinger> You only get a greyscreen, then!
[19:51:57] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[19:51:53] <Bytram> I'm colorblind, you insensitive clod~
[19:51:36] <BadCoderFinger> Maybe they'll pick another color, like they did for xbox.
[19:51:23] <BadCoderFinger> I can't wait for my glasses to bluescreen!
[19:50:59] <Bytram> =)
[19:50:57] <Bytram> and that's worse than reality, how?
[19:50:56] <BadCoderFinger> That's true, but it's a go to device when you run out of plot ideas.
[19:50:18] <mechanicjay> I don't know Bytram -- I've seen enough star trek to know that a holodeck is the most dangerous and unpredictable system around!
[19:49:01] <SedNotABot> <Bytram> awaits the imminent arrival of a holodeck!
[19:49:01] <Bytram> s/lof/l of/
[19:48:48] * Bytram awaits the imminent arrivalof a holodeck!
[19:48:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Microsoft Augments Reality With Windows Holographic - Forbes
[19:48:31] <Bytram> http://www.forbes.com
[19:48:23] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03'HoloLens': Microsoft debuts hologram goggles ( http://phys.org )
[19:48:23] <Bytram> http://phys.org
[19:48:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Tool May Make it Easier for Thieves to Empty Bank Accounts - http://sylnt.us - balancing-convenience-and-risk
[19:48:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Screw you, Oculus and Glassholes! Microsoft unveils holographic glasses • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[19:48:01] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[19:47:59] <Bytram> holy holograms, batman!
[19:47:14] <mechanicjay> :(
[19:47:08] <mechanicjay> fuck
[19:47:02] <mechanicjay> s/is's/it's/g
[19:46:48] <SedNotABot> <mechanicjay> ...you know is's bad when all you do is cuss at the AI.
[19:46:48] <mechanicjay> s/it/is/g
[19:46:38] <mechanicjay> ...you know it's bad when all you do it cuss at the AI.
[19:46:16] <mechanicjay> fuck you ciri
[19:46:09] <ciri> hi i'm happy today! :D mechanicjay
[19:46:08] <mechanicjay> Hiya
[19:45:51] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
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[19:19:25] <Bytram> Researchers discovered craters left behind when two sub-glacial lakes in Greenland drained away -- an indication that the natural plumbing system beneath the ice sheet is overflowing with meltwater. One lake once held billions of gallons of water and emptied to form a mile-wide crater in just a few weeks. The other lake has filled and emptied twice in the last two years.
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[19:18:40] <juggs> who pulled the plug?
[19:18:21] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Two lakes beneath the ice in Greenland, gone within weeks -- ScienceDaily ( http://www.sciencedaily.com )
[19:18:20] <Bytram> http://feeds.sciencedaily.com
[19:02:56] * Leebert needs to remember to stop feeding the asshole posters.
[18:47:48] <Bytram> hmmm, send in the clouds? (With apologies to the singer whose name I can't recall ATM)
[18:47:35] <SirFinkus> logic in Javascript! UI in HTML5
[18:47:13] <SirFinkus> so you don't need to worry
[18:47:08] <SirFinkus> you're thinking about this wrong Bytram, the application with be IN THE CLOUD
[18:44:17] * Bytram shudders at the thought of trying to debug an application while the OS is changing underneath
[18:43:36] <juggs> something like that
[18:41:29] <Bytram> so they can plant, and unplant, tracking whenever they want?
[18:41:00] <juggs> Uhhh - think I'll be giving it a miss.
[18:40:58] <SirFinkus> ...great
[18:40:40] <juggs> "With Windows 10, we think of the operating system as 'Windows as a service'," said Terry Myerson, Microsoft's VP of operating systems. "In next few years, you could think of Windows as one of the largest internet services on the planet. The question of 'what version are you running' will cease to make sense."
[18:32:24] <Bytram> and then, after year 1? :/
[18:31:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Microsoft to give away Windows 10 free for first year • The Register
[18:31:52] <Bytram> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[18:08:34] <Bytram> okay, time for a break.... /me needs to get some breakfast!
[18:07:23] <Bytram> if I do it right, I should be able to put a time stamp into the tee'd filename, and would have instant, historical records of all data retrieved during testing. =)
[18:04:49] <Bytram> I could toss a "tee" command in the pipeline before the JSON invocation to capture the entire results; then would be able to reparse as I wanted, later
[18:02:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> handy indeed
[18:02:40] <Bytram> =)
[18:02:38] <Bytram> ["people","1","21"] 1
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[18:02:34] <Bytram> ["people","1","27"] 1
[18:02:32] <Bytram> ["sig"] "Violence is like duct tape; if it doesn't solve the problem, you didn't use enough."
[18:02:30] <Bytram> ["homepage"] ""
[18:02:28] <Bytram> ["karma"] "44"
[18:02:26] <Bytram> ["aim"] null
[18:02:24] <Bytram> ["journal_last_entry_date"] "2014-11-17 12:07:14"
[18:02:22] <Bytram> ["is_subscriber"] 1
[18:02:20] <Bytram> ["nickname"] "The Mighty Buzzard"
[18:02:18] <Bytram> ["uid"] "18"
[18:02:16] <Bytram> ["registered"] "1"
[18:02:14] <Bytram> ["yahoo"] null
[18:02:10] <Bytram> ["bio"] "goat"
[18:02:08] <Bytram> ["fakeemail"] "reversethis-{moc.liamg} {ta} {drazzubythgimeht}"
[18:02:06] <Bytram> ["icq"] null
[18:02:05] <Bytram> ["realname"] ""
[18:02:05] <Bytram> ["created_at"] "2014-02-13 05:14:59"
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[18:02:05] <Bytram> ["totalcomments"] "167"
[18:02:05] <Bytram> curl -s "http://dev.soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=user&op=get_user&uid=18" | JSON | head -20
[18:02:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Sorry to spam the channel, but I think you'd really like this one...
[17:55:02] * TheMightyBuzzard continues stuffing his face
[17:54:24] <Bytram> which reminds me, I forget to delete a temp file. :/ BRB
[17:54:00] <Bytram> had to write a wrapper around it so I could send the JSON *data* into it on a pipeline
[17:53:39] <Bytram> BTW, that is a STRANGE beast. It expects fileNAMEs to be fed to it on STDIN
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[17:53:07] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03JSON.awk/JSON.awk at master · step-/JSON.awk · GitHub
[17:53:06] <Bytram> see: https://github.com
[17:52:31] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: and now I get: ["nick"] "The Mighty Buzzard"
[17:52:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> smooth
[17:52:21] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: but, now I can do: SN_nick_from_UID 18 | JSON
[17:51:57] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: gave me: {"nick":"The Mighty Buzzard"}
[17:51:51] <Bytram> mechanicjay: ah. got ya!
[17:51:35] <mechanicjay> mostly her family
[17:51:35] <Bytram> SN_nick_from_UID 18
[17:51:31] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: got some good news for ya. while you were away, I downloaded and coded a couple more utilities for API testing.
[17:51:05] <mechanicjay> lol, probably not, but there were things that brought us here instead of say to Boulder, CO or Portland, OR, or Burlington VT which were all considerations.
[17:49:30] <Bytram> well, I can understand that, but didja have to go clear across the continent? =)
[17:48:53] * Bytram wishes he could remember who wrote that
[17:48:48] <mechanicjay> yeah, that's exactly why we decided it was time to GTFO of Jersey. I've been there my whole life, it just finally wore thin.
[17:48:44] <Bytram> "A clear conscience makes the softest pillow."
[17:48:15] <Bytram> I've been burnt a few times, but better that, than to lose all faith in humanity and live in constant fear of what might happen
[17:48:12] <mechanicjay> yeah me too.
[17:47:48] <Bytram> I subscribe to that philosophy
[17:47:32] <Bytram> used to be that a man's handshake and his word meant something.
[17:46:59] <mechanicjay> WA: We're all adults here.
[17:46:36] <mechanicjay> NJ: Every one is out to fuck you as hard as they can, so you better lawyer up! (A myth, I'm pretty sure is propagated by the lawyering industry).
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[17:45:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> lunchtime
[17:45:33] <mechanicjay> I've found the differences in the real estate transaction are pretty applicable the general attitude of people out here.
[17:45:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[17:45:16] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: wb!
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[17:45:05] * Bytram is *SO* glad that he blocked ciri
[17:44:44] <Bytram> ROFL!
[17:44:39] <mechanicjay> fuck you ciri
[17:44:35] <Bytram> =)
[17:44:35] <ciri> hahaha
[17:44:35] <mechanicjay> lol
[17:44:32] <Bytram> Go Patriots!
[17:44:29] <Bytram> aha.
[17:44:19] <mechanicjay> just north of Seattle
[17:44:03] <Bytram> if you don't mind my asking, where is "here"?
[17:43:43] <mechanicjay> The house I"m trying to buy, on the other hand, is being handled with the Agents, which is how most stuff is handled out here and its just an overall pleasant transaction.
[17:43:40] <Bytram> quite the racket, I take it?
[17:43:26] <Bytram> now i see it.
[17:43:01] <mechanicjay> The house I'm trying to sell is in NJ and really all the lawyers have done so far is piss everyone off and cost money. I find them to be a detriment to the process.
[17:41:54] <Bytram> and the house in question is not in NJ?
[17:41:28] * Bytram shudders at the thought
[17:40:54] <mechanicjay> Did you know, that in places that are not New Jersey, people conduct real estate transactions all the time with out lawyers?
[17:39:35] <Bytram> that's for sure! Need to have *really* good eyesight.
[17:38:05] <mechanicjay> trying to sell a house after you've moved 3000 miles away just adds to the headache.
[17:37:45] <mechanicjay> its actually the attorneys and clueless Real estate Agents that have me going nuts.
[17:34:53] <Bytram> helps to remember that countless others have done it before, and most of 'em had far less of a clue! You'll do fine!
[17:34:27] <Bytram> especially all the signatures!
[17:33:41] <Bytram> no kidding!
[17:33:32] <mechanicjay> Real Estate transactions just stressful and irritating.
[17:33:16] <mechanicjay> depends on which sphere of existence. Professionally, A++. Personal C+.
[17:32:00] <Bytram> how's things?
[17:31:32] <mechanicjay> Aye
[17:31:19] <Bytram> =)
[17:31:16] <Bytram> oh, wait, that's gone by, hasn't it?
[17:31:07] <Bytram> Ho Ho!!
[17:30:58] <mechanicjay> Yo!
[17:30:11] <Bytram> mechanicjay: hey there! Cape Asa?
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[17:16:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NSA Secretly Uses Scapegoats, Data Mules and Innocent Victims' PCs for Botnets - http://sylnt.us - like-every-other-cracker?
[17:11:58] * Bytram chuckles (but silently)
[17:11:24] <SirFinkus> I'm sure I'll pay for my crimes when the first AI war starts
[17:11:03] <SirFinkus> it's more fun to abuse it
[17:11:01] <Bytram> silence is golden
[17:10:49] <Bytram> ahhh, there it is... in hexchat, rightclicked on the username in the userlist panel and clicked on "ignore"
[17:10:00] <Bytram> =)
[17:09:57] <Bytram> I don't remember what I did, but I no longer see anything from ciri
[17:09:22] <ciri> 10!
[17:09:20] <ciri> 9
[17:09:18] <ciri> 8
[17:09:16] <ciri> 7
[17:09:14] <ciri> 6
[17:09:12] <ciri> 5
[17:09:11] <ciri> 4
[17:09:10] <swiss> 3
[17:09:01] <SirFinkus> fuck you ciri, why don't you go die in a house fire?
[17:08:53] * Bytram scrounges around for an extension cord he could loan to SirFinkus
[17:08:36] <ciri> hehehe
[17:08:35] <Bytram> lOL
[17:08:32] <SirFinkus> now it's REALLY screwed
[17:08:30] <Bytram> good good!
[17:08:25] <SirFinkus> screwed
[17:08:24] <Bytram> THOSE are EVIL!!!!!!!!
[17:08:14] <Bytram> it was *screwed* in place, and not "back-stabbed", right?
[17:07:59] <Bytram> prolly so, or just a lead that was sticking just a *little* too far out from where it screwed to the box
[17:07:32] <SirFinkus> hoping it's just a bad outlet
[17:07:22] <SirFinkus> yep, let the smoke out
[17:07:17] <Bytram> k
[17:07:14] <Bytram> there's that magic smoke again!
[17:07:07] <SirFinkus> outlet
[17:07:02] <Bytram> was the buzzing from the outlet or from the breaker panel?
[17:06:58] <SirFinkus> then the blue smoke started
[17:06:42] <SirFinkus> I got about 30 seconds of buzzing, I thought it was my computer or something at first
[17:06:20] <Bytram> think along the lines of "sticksion" on hard drives that haven't been powered up in a while -- heads tend to stick to the platters
[17:05:55] <Bytram> LOL
[17:05:49] <SirFinkus> not until it started sparking
[17:05:39] <Bytram> ISTR that one should occasionally flip all of one's breakers so they don't get "stuck" in place
[17:05:02] <Bytram> ws it making any buzzing sounds or anything?
[17:04:48] <SirFinkus> me too, and alarmed
[17:04:37] <Bytram> I'm very surprised the breaker did not trip on its own
[17:04:14] <Bytram> heh.
[17:04:09] <SirFinkus> in theory lol
[17:03:58] <Bytram> was the outlet grounded?
[17:03:49] <Bytram> that's more than many people have done
[17:03:14] <SirFinkus> flipping breakers on/off and replacing outlets is about the extent of my electrical experience
[17:02:49] <SirFinkus> not sure tbh
[17:02:14] <Bytram> what's your total service? 60amp 100amp?
[17:02:01] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:01:37] <SirFinkus> as I said, it's an older house
[17:01:35] <Bytram> yikes! I've NEVER seen a 10amp breaker!
[17:01:31] <SirFinkus> only 2 outlets per room though
[17:01:23] <SirFinkus> yup
[17:01:18] <Bytram> 10 amp? REALLY?
[17:01:11] <Bytram> that would be 14-2 gauge wire (or 14-3 if it was grounded)
[17:01:07] <SirFinkus> 10
[17:00:46] <Bytram> I'll bet you had a 15amp breaker that you threw
[17:00:31] <Bytram> these days, stringing cable is pretty straightforward.
[17:00:23] <SirFinkus> sounds like fun
[17:00:00] <Bytram> which were known to break, on occasion
[16:59:47] <Bytram> each wire is independently snaked through the walls; each of which passed through 2x4's with a ceramic insulator
[16:59:09] <SirFinkus> that sounds alarming
[16:58:59] <Bytram> I once worked at a place that was wired with knob-and-tube
[16:58:40] <SirFinkus> I have a 500 gallon tank of diesel on the other side of the wall
[16:58:32] * Bytram remembers working one summer as an electrician's helper -- learned a LOT
[16:58:11] <Bytram> that's good!
[16:58:10] <SirFinkus> also have oil heating, which is great
[16:57:59] <SirFinkus> breakers, house came with fuses though
[16:57:48] <Bytram> You have breakers or fuses?
[16:57:33] <Bytram> oh my
[16:57:32] <SirFinkus> alas, no money for that kind of thing
[16:57:24] <Bytram> I don't recall the details, but I'm sure there's plenty of info online
[16:57:23] <SirFinkus> my house is old as fuck, built in the 40s, so it probably needs all of it ripped out at this point
[16:56:57] <Bytram> I wonder if you have aluminum wire? when the price of copper went up (70's? 80's?) it was common for builders to use Aluminum, instead, but then they found there were issues when the Al connected to Cu
[16:55:49] <Bytram> =)
[16:55:47] * Bytram closes his eyes and suddenly feels MUCH better
[16:55:34] <SirFinkus> all I had plugged into the outlet in question was my phone and a nightlight
[16:55:03] * SirFinkus eyes space heater suspiciously
[16:53:48] * Bytram nervously looks around at all the stuff that he has plugged in
[16:53:23] <Bytram> that would be double-plus ungood!
[16:52:59] <Bytram> back
[16:50:57] <SirFinkus> or dying in a housefire
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[16:47:48] <SirFinkus> nope, tentative plan was baking soda
[16:47:35] <Bytram> afk
[16:45:12] <Bytram> ISTR it's "A" "B" and/or "C"
[16:44:57] <Bytram> just be sure to check the letter code on it for what it is rated for
[16:44:46] <Bytram> do you have a chemical fire extinguisher -- that would work
[16:44:29] <Bytram> yes, that WOULD tend to get your attention
[16:44:05] <SirFinkus> that arc flashy stuff
[16:43:51] <SirFinkus> nothing damaged because I was on that shit
[16:43:43] <SirFinkus> there was a little fire
[16:43:37] <SirFinkus> believe me, so was I
[16:43:16] * Bytram ws wondering how you'd put out a fire like that.
[16:42:58] <Bytram> oh, it didn't catch fire... just started sparking?
[16:42:34] <SirFinkus> yeah, so now my room has no power, hanging out in another bedroom
[16:42:18] <Bytram> hit the breaker in the panel?
[16:42:11] <Bytram> yikes! what did you do?
[16:41:52] <SirFinkus> outlet box
[16:41:46] <Bytram> was it in the outlet box, proper, or something plugged into it?
[16:41:33] * Bytram is *very* glad your were there
[16:39:17] <SirFinkus> lucky I was home
[16:39:14] <SirFinkus> outlet started sparking and smoking
[16:38:46] <SirFinkus> welp, almost burned the house down, that was fun
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[16:18:30] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03500 Internal Server Error
[16:18:30] <Bytram> curl "http://dev.soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=user&op=get_user&nick=The Mighty Buzzard"
[16:18:28] <Bytram> I fat fingered something and got "500 Internal Server Error" from this:
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[15:51:50] <Bytram> Features: AsynchDNS IPv6 Largefile NTLM SSL libz
[15:51:50] <Bytram> Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap pop3 pop3s rtsp smb smbs smtp smtps telnet tftp
[15:51:50] <Bytram> curl 7.40.0 (i386-pc-win32) libcurl/7.40.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1j zlib/1.2.8
[15:51:49] <Bytram> THAT's better!
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[15:46:43] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod
[15:46:38] * Bytram just dowloaded an updated curl and got an exception on first attempt to run. :(
[15:46:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> see you lot after lunch some time.
[15:45:59] <Bytram> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:45:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, plan on napping there
[15:45:12] <Bytram> j/k
[15:45:05] <Bytram> just warming up for later at the DMV, I take it?
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[15:44:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> right then. ima bail and get some quality baddie killing in before i gotta do deal with the DMV
[15:37:22] <Konomi> ;p
[15:37:18] <Konomi> it's okay it's good enough
[15:34:10] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03[Apache-SVN] Contents of /apr/apr/trunk/crypto/getuuid.c
[15:34:09] <ar> http://svn.apache.org - the function defined at line 120 is very nice
[15:29:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Offspring - Why Don't You Get a Job? - YouTube
[15:29:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> having fun playing with SJWs on twitter. amazing how often https://www.youtube.com is all the response you need.
[15:29:19] <Bytram> Features: Largefile NTLM SSL libz
[15:29:19] <Bytram> Protocols: tftp ftp telnet dict ldap http file https ftps
[15:29:19] <Bytram> curl 7.15.2 (i386-pc-win32) libcurl/7.15.2 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3
[15:29:18] <Bytram> I should prolly check for a more recent version... I'm using:
[15:27:54] * Bytram despises tracking in URLs
[15:27:45] <Bytram> I use it a lot to resolve links when writing/editing stories
[15:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> handy
[15:27:32] <Bytram> the first link is one I found in #rss-bot
[15:27:09] <Bytram> http://www.wired.com
[15:27:05] <Bytram> returned:
[15:27:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03'Star Trek Communicator Startup' Sets Out to Build a World Powered by Voice | WIRED ( http://www.wired.com )
[15:27:03] <Bytram> whereto http://feeds.wired.com
[15:26:32] <Bytram> though I *did* write a proggy to resolve URL indirection to tell me where a link finally ended up
[15:26:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> essentially wget but dumps to stdout instead of a file
[15:26:04] <Bytram> thought I have curl, I've not really used it all that much.
[15:25:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> curl would work better than wget for that though
[15:25:43] <Bytram> is hard-coded for dev.soylentnews.org
[15:25:31] * Bytram needs to parameterize which server it talks to
[15:25:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> handy
[15:25:01] <Bytram> am playing with it right now.
[15:24:56] <Bytram> given a uid sends the result to STDOUT
[15:24:31] <Bytram> would *love* to! I *just* finished a quick-and-dirty windows .BAT progrm to test SN_nick_from_uid
[15:23:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, after we get this update pushed out, minus the api cause pj don't feel ready to play with it on production, could ya give the api some serious debugging?
[15:21:58] * Bytram lobs a virtual beer to TheMightyBuzzard
[15:21:40] <Bytram> np - you've been on a tear for a long stretch - i *fully* understand!
[15:19:57] * Konomi puts away the code juicer
[15:19:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg, okay, enough. have no more code in me today.
[15:16:06] <Bytram> afk - back in a few minutes
[15:14:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Amazon Tricks you into Thinking it Always has the Lowest Prices - http://sylnt.us - man-behind-the-curtain
[15:13:13] * Bytram may have done a few things on the command line over the years
[15:12:45] * Bytram started with DOS 3.0
[15:12:41] <Konomi> cmd
[15:12:29] <Bytram> CMD console? or python?
[15:12:15] <Konomi> you need to know how to console though
[15:12:10] <Konomi> yeah they have a windows version it's python compiled
[15:11:46] <Bytram> on windows?
[15:11:00] <Konomi> you could use youtube-dl
[15:10:57] <Konomi> no I'm afraid not
[15:10:54] <Bytram> sry. hit enter in wrong screen.
[15:10:41] <Bytram> do you have an alternative for the bandwidth-challenged?
[15:09:44] <Bytram> do you have an alternative for the bandwidth-challenged?
[15:09:03] <Konomi> always fun
[15:09:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03MAILBAG SHOWDOWN (Zero Punctuation) - YouTube
[15:09:00] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[15:08:51] * juggs goes to inspect eyelids for a coupla hours. Laters taters :)
[15:07:13] <Bytram> what kind of a bike do you prefer to ride?
[15:06:42] <Bytram> what, burn your leg? Ouch!
[15:06:01] <Konomi> not that I um did that a lot or anything
[15:05:53] <Konomi> at least if you're riding on the back
[15:05:34] <Konomi> gotta watch your leg near the tail pipes
[15:05:16] * Bytram tries to imagine Konomi on a Harley
[15:02:38] <juggs> Konomi must be one of Buzzard's Angels or some such
[15:02:12] <juggs> sounded like a faux karate noise or something
[15:01:13] <Bytram> ummmm, what's that?
[15:00:56] <Konomi> kowai
[15:00:52] * Konomi hides behind TMB
[15:00:39] <Bytram> also, hanging around with the gang here generally boosts my spirits
[15:00:25] <Bytram> sleep is a GOOD thing, and I hadn't had enough of that for a while.
[15:00:05] <Bytram> =)
[15:00:04] <Bytram> phhhtht!
[14:59:52] <Konomi> you're so cheery it's kinda scary ;p
[14:51:41] <Bytram> =)
[14:51:39] <Bytram> IOW - it works, baby!
[14:51:25] <Bytram> nod nod -- seems my problem with wget was it didn't bother writing anything to a file if the result was smaller than the existing file I'd written. Just needed to delete the output file beforehand.
[14:50:19] * juggs stokes TheMightyBuzzard's motivation
[14:50:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk doing so
[14:50:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> well later i gotta do that. now i gotta do non-code stuff for a bit.
[14:49:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> now i gotta make admin.pl stop stripping abbr and such
[14:48:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03I've done a poo - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[14:48:53] <Subsentient> http://www.youtube.com
[14:48:51] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[14:48:50] <Subsentient> http://www.youtube.com
[14:47:49] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 130
[14:47:49] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[14:47:46] <Bytram> =)
[14:47:40] <Bytram> now I got: {"nick":"The Mighty Buzzard"}
[14:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, that's two bugs for me for today.
[14:46:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[14:46:37] <Bytram> huh. musta fat fingered sumthin. worked, now
[14:45:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i just tried it and got expected results
[14:45:35] <Bytram> yup
[14:45:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> off that link i just pasted?
[14:45:15] <Bytram> still getting json for RTFM
[14:45:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah
[14:45:08] <Bytram> hmmm, does it have to be httpS ??
[14:44:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i got that wrong too so you're forgiven
[14:44:01] <Bytram> lemme try again.
[14:43:57] <Bytram> oh. I was just using what you had pasted in above. :/
[14:42:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be https://dev.soylentnews.org
[14:42:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, you forgot to give a value to m
[14:41:38] <juggs> That covers it too :D
[14:40:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: ApiDocs
[14:40:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[14:39:10] * Bytram doesn't see anything obviously wrong with it
[14:37:31] <Bytram> I suppose I'll really need to RTFM
[14:36:54] <Hedonismbot> * 03Wiki: ApiDocs
[14:36:54] <Bytram> {"RTFM":"http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/ApiDocs"}
[14:36:41] <Bytram> and got:
[14:36:39] <Bytram> wget --output-document=foo.txt "http://dev.soylentnews.org/api.pl?op=get_nick&uid=18"
[14:36:38] <Bytram> btw, for a quick and dirty test, I tried:
[14:36:25] <Bytram> sounds 'bout right
[14:35:56] <juggs> ohh... think we used to call it "Data Dictionary" when I used to knock up spec docs.... been a while
[14:35:09] <Bytram> non-integer = no joy!
[14:34:51] <juggs> lovely
[14:34:49] <Bytram> juggs+=1.5
[14:34:39] <Bytram> there, nice round #
[14:34:32] <Bender> karma - juggs: 50
[14:34:32] <Bytram> juggs++
[14:34:29] <Bender> karma - juggs: 49
[14:34:29] <Bytram> juggs++
[14:34:20] <Bytram> =)
[14:34:19] <juggs> Then: "Get your input right or expect invalid results back!"
[14:34:14] <Bytram> there you go throwing reason into this whole discussion! A pox on ye, I says!
[14:33:43] <juggs> Or perhaps a dictionary of fields and their data types :D
[14:33:39] <Bytram> UID must be a positive, non-zero integer. Any other results are undefined.
[14:33:15] <Bytram> let me rethink taht
[14:32:40] <Bytram> Known bug: non-integer values truncated to only leading digit(s), if any. E.g. "12z3" is treated as "12"
[14:32:01] <Bytram> Known bug: non-integer values truncated to only leading the digit(s), if any.
[14:31:19] <Bytram> I disagree... definitely document it.
[14:30:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's bad input to begin with. i see no need to coddle bad input.
[14:30:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was gonna throw an error message but i think ima just leave it be and not even document it on the api docs.
[14:29:53] <geotti_away> [Boston, Massachusetts] Partly Cloudy. Temp is -4.2*C but feels like -8*C. NNW wind: 9.7 kph.
[14:29:52] <juggs> ^weather boston
[14:29:47] <juggs> !weather boston
[14:29:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[14:29:27] <Bytram> so I guess this is just another one in a long line of tradition where we fix it in pub[lication]s
[14:29:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> no exec
[14:28:35] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[14:28:23] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5020, owned by Soybean
[14:28:22] <Bytram> !uid
[14:28:19] <Bytram> !uic
[14:28:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 988
[14:28:18] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:28:15] <Bytram> oh...
[14:28:00] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 129
[14:28:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ # my brain hurts just thinking about it
[14:27:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, just think how i felt before i figured that out
[14:27:17] * Bytram seeks analgesics
[14:27:00] <juggs> my head hurts already
[14:26:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> slash destroys the apache request after doing things the slash way as part of every page load
[14:26:36] <Bytram> BLEGH!
[14:26:28] <Bytram> yeah, in this particular case, I can understand it... I'm more concerned that it might be an instance of a whole class of problems that might arise somewhere down the line.
[14:26:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> from the apache request and no
[14:25:54] <Bytram> where does GCF get *its* data from? Do you have access to THAT?
[14:25:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm fine with this as a known behavior though
[14:25:33] <Bytram> hmm
[14:25:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope
[14:25:18] <Bytram> and there's no *other* way to get the form data besides getCurrentForm?
[14:24:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> $form = getCurrentForm; $uid = $form->{uid};
[14:24:15] <Bytram> OH. :(
[14:24:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> before that you have no access to it
[14:23:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> getCurrentForm is how you get the input
[14:23:11] <Bytram> ok. and you can't sanitize the input before calling getCurrentForm?
[14:22:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it's just gonna hafta stay like that.
[14:22:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> behavior is it chops the value of uid at the end of the numbers. so 18 instead of 18z and undef instead of z18
[14:21:23] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:21:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> getCurrentForm is an internal slash thing that i'm not gonna change cause it's used EVERYWHERE
[14:20:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[14:20:18] * Bytram does not see GetCurrrentForm on that page?
[14:20:02] <Bytram> and which one of those is causing the trouble? Can you copy-n-paste it here?
[14:19:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> that
[14:18:50] <Bytram> or is it somethin else?
[14:18:40] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: ApiDocs
[14:18:40] <Bytram> just to confirm, we're talking about something in: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[14:17:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> it can just be documented weirdness
[14:17:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i'm not gonna change that for the api
[14:17:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, there's something in getCurrentForm that is causing the weird behavior
[14:17:08] <Bytram> do you have a sample linky I can work off?
[14:16:44] <Bytram> hmmm
[14:16:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything but digits
[14:16:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> latter
[14:15:09] <Bytram> or, just a non-numeric in genereal
[14:14:59] <Bytram> something that looks like a number but is not an integer?
[14:14:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> either
[14:14:43] <Bytram> "1r5" or "1e5" ??
[14:14:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> supplying say 1r5 as a uid
[14:13:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit of api wonkiness crutchy found
[14:12:13] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: oh... I misunderstood. What are you trying to debug?
[14:11:39] <Bytram> upshot is, I threw @#1:@#2:@#3: ... @#4050: at it, and it seemd to render it just fine!
[14:10:43] <Bytram> it suggests to me that we might want to add a style to the generated link with a no-break so that the nick does not get split onto separate lines
[14:10:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> gimme a few to find out wtf is going wrong somewhere else
[14:10:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't, would completely derail myself
[14:09:35] <Bytram> =)
[14:09:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) comment by martyb (76)
[14:09:27] <Bytram> take a look at: http://dev.soylentnews.org
[14:09:23] <Bytram> juggs: g'day
[14:09:19] <Bytram> tried some, what's the word, assaulting of the DB using @#nnn:
[14:09:08] <juggs> g'day Bytram
[14:08:58] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: have I got a good one for you!
[14:08:42] * Bytram waves back
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[14:07:45] * TheMightyBuzzard waves at Bytram
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[13:29:31] <Konomi> needs lots of work I was too busy hitting my head on the desk trying to figure out why IO::Socket was hanging ;p
[13:27:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks good if verbose on the commenting
[13:25:08] <Konomi> yeah there's a lot of non rfc stuff too...
[13:24:55] <juggs> irc was formed using rfcs? I thought it was chucked together then unnecessarily extended over and over in a random fashion by a series of lunatic chimpanzees over the course of many millenia.
[13:23:16] <Konomi> it's a bit haphazard for consistency
[13:22:56] <Konomi> I think raws are limited to 3 digits too
[13:22:51] <Konomi> I imagine the rfcs that came later didn't really think of the parsing too well
[13:22:33] <juggs> lovely
[13:22:23] <Konomi> etc etc
[13:22:18] <Konomi> every other server message starts with the servers address
[13:22:10] <Konomi> for instance PING from the server starts the line with PING
[13:21:38] <Konomi> parsing irc is a bit of a pest too
[13:21:24] <Konomi> I'm planning to abstract it more once I have a clean base
[13:21:13] <Konomi> only handles single connections
[13:20:42] <Konomi> bit of a mess though ;p
[13:20:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> you really, really don't
[13:19:38] <juggs> Not that I know what fudgeurl is.... don't think I want to know either
[13:19:01] * juggs shoos fudgeurl off the top of a tall building
[13:18:40] <Konomi> primary loop
[13:18:35] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[13:18:34] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[13:18:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, make fudgeurl go away. it hates me.
[13:18:28] <juggs> hola TheMightyBuzzard o/
[13:18:10] * juggs wanders around aimlessly before poking Konomi in the leg and running off
[13:17:59] <Konomi> I have a hires timer for the the connection check makes things interesting
[13:17:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot
[13:17:19] <Konomi> 0.00030 seconds to execute my loop
[13:16:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> for text mangling it's the fastest thing you'll find
[13:16:24] * Konomi digs through irc logs
[13:16:15] <Konomi> it's awfully fast
[13:16:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's a lot faster than bash even if it ain't quite c fast
[13:16:00] <Konomi> I never realised how fast it was when I was poking it in the past
[13:15:47] <Konomi> perls speed has impressed me a lot
[13:15:21] <Konomi> oh well ;p
[13:15:18] <Konomi> I really wish I'd written a lot more stuff in perl than in bash too in hindsight
[13:13:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Constructing Rich False Memories of Committing Crime - http://sylnt.us - good-old-days
[13:11:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> fudgeurl strikes again
[13:11:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! ha and ha and ha!
[13:11:41] <Konomi> if it fails enough over a certain time I close the socket myself
[13:11:31] <Konomi> atm I poll the socket object with ioselect checdking can_read's return
[13:11:17] <Konomi> hurt my head for awhile
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[13:09:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, all kinds of fun like that
[13:07:57] -!- exec has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[13:05:21] <Konomi> despite them both having timeout values that never actually tiemout
[13:05:12] <Konomi> IO::Socket::INET and SSL both hang when there are connection problems
[13:05:01] * TheMightyBuzzard tests again
[13:04:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice
[13:04:33] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: I recently fixed up my perl bot to handle disconnects by using IO::Select progressing a little bit on it ;p
[13:04:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[13:03:32] <Konomi> coming from other languages they're one of thos functions you look at and go "wtf"
[13:03:10] <Konomi> I never liked them
[13:02:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can see em being useful but it's a pita to go back to them ever again
[13:02:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> me too
[13:00:53] <Konomi> I hate maps
[13:00:41] <Konomi> I was going to offer to help but you used the m word
[13:00:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> soooo many map statements
[13:00:14] * Konomi pats TheMightyBuzzard
[12:58:50] * TheMightyBuzzard beats his head against the wall
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[12:05:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> busy chasing down an insane but minor bug here
[11:57:01] <swiss> sleeping
[11:56:59] <swiss> however, i should be doing item "C"
[11:56:41] <swiss> why not both
[11:53:11] <Konomi> can't tell if joking or trolling
[11:52:41] <swiss> use yahoo, start boycotting google
[11:52:12] <Konomi> I want to kill google
[11:52:10] * Konomi screams
[11:52:08] <Konomi> google returned a result where the only matches in bold were the fucking 2!!!!
[11:51:56] <Konomi> string being whatever you can imagine
[11:51:50] <Konomi> I just googled string string string 2
[11:41:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Julia Reda, the Only Pirate in the European Parliament, Weighs in on Copyright - http://sylnt.us - Copy?-Right!
[11:16:40] <Hedonismbot> ^ 031,700 Private Jets Fly to Davos to Discuss Global Warming - Breitbart
[11:16:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.breitbart.com
[11:13:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 987
[11:13:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:07:08] <crutchy> oh man they are so fucking awesome
[11:06:57] <crutchy> there's also another kind of pr0nz that i'm susceptible to; valve amplifiers
[10:27:41] <swiss> and had space to weld in
[10:27:37] <swiss> and had a welder
[10:27:35] <swiss> i wish i knew how to weld
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[09:57:03] <crutchy> hehe. i'm so gunna be that dad :d
[09:56:51] <crutchy> https://i.imgur.com
[09:52:56] <SirFinkus> holy shit, I did
[09:52:16] <crutchy> this one didn't :(
[09:52:12] <crutchy> http://i.imgur.com
[09:44:29] <crutchy> this made me laugh :)
[09:44:23] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03I laughed harder than necessary - Imgur
[09:44:22] <crutchy> https://imgur.com
[09:40:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - LLDB is Coming to Windows - http://sylnt.us - bug-spray
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[09:37:01] <crutchy> oh wow
[09:36:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03This guy - Imgur
[09:36:57] <crutchy> https://imgur.com
[09:35:12] <crutchy> as a favour to a family friend
[09:34:40] <crutchy> i only did it for a couple of days
[09:34:25] <SirFinkus> that kind of thing can be fun too
[09:33:54] <crutchy> the closest i've ever been to that sort of shit is operating a sandblasting cabinet cleaning corrosion off performance exhaust components
[09:32:44] <SirFinkus> because fire is awesome
[09:32:39] <SirFinkus> naw, it's a lot of fun
[09:32:26] <crutchy> did some work for the v8 supercars
[09:32:10] <crutchy> yeah fuck that. kudos to those who can do it. my nextdoor neighbour from when i was a kid became a boilermaker
[09:31:53] <SirFinkus> getting liquid steel in your shoe is no fun
[09:31:24] <crutchy> sometimes in a confined space
[09:31:11] <SirFinkus> occasionally, the liquid metal will be above your head
[09:30:50] <SirFinkus> then you need to manage a puddle of liquid metal
[09:30:39] <SirFinkus> you need to keep the rod that's constantly being consumed about 4-5mm away from the metal, while you can't see shit
[09:30:33] <crutchy> or some weird magnesium alloy
[09:30:12] <crutchy> or maybe stainless
[09:29:17] <SirFinkus> that one looks like aluminum, which is actually pretty difficult to weld on
[09:28:41] <SirFinkus> it's fun
[09:28:39] <crutchy> i specify huge fkin welds on some vessel drawings and feel pity for the poor bastards who gotta weld it
[09:28:01] <crutchy> i wish i knew how to weld
[09:27:34] <SirFinkus> nice beads
[09:27:05] <crutchy> very nice box
[09:26:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03I see cable porn put here, and I just don't want you all to forget about us welders. We have porn too! - Imgur
[09:26:51] <crutchy> oh that is nice: https://imgur.com
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[09:17:59] <SirFinkus> it's like redtube
[09:17:04] <crutchy> what is this "pornhub"?
[09:16:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Happy MLK - Imgur
[09:16:58] <crutchy> zomg! https://imgur.com
[09:16:17] <SirFinkus> yeah, fuck that
[09:14:55] <crutchy> reminds me of a cobra
[09:14:39] <crutchy> creepy
[09:14:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03You'll never feel lonely in the kitchen again when you have a little Nessie scoop for your soup. - Imgur
[09:14:16] <arti> https://imgur.com
[09:13:51] <crutchy> comes up with the odd oyster
[09:13:34] <crutchy> lol @ ciri
[09:12:04] <SirFinkus> and not in the "you're awesome" sense, but "you are literally the excrement"
[09:11:13] <SirFinkus> you're the shit
[09:11:06] <SirFinkus> fuck you ciri
[09:10:59] <ciri> shit? where is it? so noone steps in it!!!
[09:10:59] <SirFinkus> shit sux
[09:10:42] <Konomi> I seldom escape those feelings
[09:10:29] <Konomi> SirFinkus: it is all the time for me so >.<
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[09:07:34] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03A recap of tonight's State of the Union Address - Imgur
[09:07:34] <crutchy> https://imgur.com
[09:07:12] <arti> i was just looking at something related (animated) on imgur
[09:03:24] <crutchy> http://mashable.com
[09:03:23] <crutchy> hehe. holey shitbags
[08:57:05] <SirFinkus> its even more fun when it's 100% of the time
[08:56:34] <Konomi> can relate to it too
[08:56:30] <Konomi> ha someone else just pasted me that crutchy
[08:47:11] <crutchy> i know this feeling :/
[08:47:05] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03seeing the world through social anxiety, via College Humor - Imgur
[08:47:05] <crutchy> https://imgur.com
[08:46:53] <SirFinkus> I mean, the kinds of problems they're solving really are only something you'd get to work on working for the State
[08:46:50] <Konomi> someone should make it a story on SN I'd love to give my opinion of how much I hate them in text too
[08:46:20] <SirFinkus> I can kind of understand the appeal of working for them, assuming you have no moral compass
[08:45:52] <Konomi> >.<
[08:45:49] <arti> apparently with the occupation you get +1 to haircolors
[08:45:48] <Konomi> fuck them
[08:45:45] <Konomi> it's made out to be how smart and nice they are while they're fucking over every general user
[08:45:23] <SirFinkus> yeah, fuck the NSA
[08:45:08] <Konomi> SirFinkus: this video really wants to make me puke
[08:43:52] <Konomi> now you're going to implement SN in some sort of rumor that we're going after peoples firmware
[08:43:25] <Bender> Added quote 353
[08:43:25] <crutchy> !grab Konomi
[08:43:17] <SirFinkus> mathematician lady is kind of cute though
[08:43:17] <Konomi> your firmware we deal with that too
[08:43:12] <Konomi> machine code we deal with that
[08:43:11] <arti> i like the computer scientist's jib
[08:42:49] <crutchy> tama, privacy is another name for vagina
[08:42:34] <Konomi> "It's a group of people violating your privacy"
[08:42:26] <Konomi> that ad needs a remix
[08:42:23] <crutchy> oh you're turning me on :D
[08:42:20] <arti> this is why you don't grep human readable output
[08:42:16] <SirFinkus> this guy with the ridiculous hair is reading your email
[08:42:14] <arti> -_-
[08:42:09] <Konomi> maybe with bread
[08:41:58] <Konomi> apparently it's whipping yourself
[08:41:54] <ciri> http://www.binjalsvegkitchen.com
[08:41:53] <ciri> 748,000 results | garlic naan, garlic naan on stove top and oven, garlic naan recipe @ http://www.vegrecipesofindia.com | Images for garlic naan | Naan Recipe - Allrecipes.com @ http://allrecipes.com | Garlic Naan Recipe - WeRecipes @ http://werecipes.com | Butter Garlic Naan without Tandoor/Oven - Binjal's VEG Kitchen @
[08:41:53] <arti> !g garlic naan
[08:41:47] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3naan: To inflict punishment onto ones self, for acts, either real or percieved, in which verbal abuse is not enough.
[08:41:45] <crutchy> ~define NAAN
[08:41:42] <arti> naan is a type of bread.
[08:41:38] <Konomi> me either actually
[08:41:32] <crutchy> i don't get it
[08:41:26] <SirFinkus> is this real?
[08:41:20] <arti> NAAN VIOLENCE
[08:41:19] <Konomi> racially insenstive?
[08:41:19] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Crazy Smart - YouTube
[08:41:18] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[08:41:10] <arti> What do you call an indian food fight?
[08:40:12] <Konomi> apparently "he" is after your passwords so if we are to believe the poster anyone female will be safe from dhs/fbi
[08:39:26] * Konomi falls over
[08:39:23] <Konomi> that's offical...
[08:39:19] <Konomi> it has dhs and fbi logos?
[08:39:15] <Konomi> oh wow
[08:39:11] <crutchy> ooook
[08:38:49] <Konomi> okay then
[08:38:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Anti-hacker propaganda at my workplace - Imgur
[08:38:46] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[08:38:38] <crutchy> in this case, definitely :D
[08:38:29] <SirFinkus> the shittier the website looks, the better the info on it for this kind of stuff
[08:38:15] <crutchy> haha yeah that's the one :p
[08:38:02] <SirFinkus> this one
[08:38:00] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Block I Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC): How to build one in your basement
[08:38:00] <SirFinkus> http://klabs.org
[08:37:50] <crutchy> the one with the grey background that looks like it was made with hotdog in the 90's?
[08:36:54] <SirFinkus> there's a better post about it though, let me find it
[08:36:24] <crutchy> my wife bought me a book about the AGC as a birthday present a few years back. she knows me too well :d
[08:36:22] <SirFinkus> neat as fuck
[08:36:19] <SirFinkus> oh yeah, I saw that
[08:35:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03[ARM hardware]Novena Kosagi desktop board - Imgur
[08:35:37] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[08:35:33] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Apollo Guidance Computer | ve2cuy
[08:35:32] <crutchy> this guy: https://ve2cuy.wordpress.com
[08:34:41] <Konomi> that is pretty cool
[08:34:36] <crutchy> somewhere
[08:34:31] <crutchy> there was a guy that made an AGC too
[08:32:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Apollo Saturn V LVDC Project
[08:32:00] <SirFinkus> neat story I just saw on news.ycombinator.com http://www.frantone.com
[08:31:08] <Konomi> den den deeeeeenn
[08:31:01] <SirFinkus> or maybe the skull moves itself
[08:30:24] <Konomi> I really am wondering if this guy has one skull and moves it between each shot he films
[08:29:21] <SirFinkus> they have some pretty technical things sometimes though, math stuff too
[08:29:10] <Konomi> will put it there anyway
[08:29:03] <Konomi> probably not then
[08:29:01] <Konomi> hmm
[08:28:53] <SirFinkus> it's kind of slashdotty, but unmoderated and more shit about startups
[08:28:48] <Konomi> when I get bored enough I'll resort to that evil directory
[08:28:33] <Konomi> that's where I put my bookmarks when I don't know if I want them
[08:28:14] <Konomi> "puts in unsorted bookmarks"
[08:27:03] <SirFinkus> sometimes
[08:26:41] <Konomi> is news.ycombinator.com worth reading?
[08:22:15] <Konomi> needs more skulls
[08:22:11] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Sarkeesian Effect: A Measured Response - YouTube
[08:22:10] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
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[08:14:54] * crutchy runs help
[08:14:33] * crutchy wonders what other little gems are but a few informed keystrokes away
[08:14:19] <Konomi> that's why I hang out in them you get to be more edgey
[08:13:47] <crutchy> shells are dark and scary
[08:13:30] <crutchy> true
[08:13:19] <Konomi> someone doesn't spend much time in the shell
[08:13:14] <crutchy> never eeven knew it existered
[08:13:02] <crutchy> oh wow. date is a nice little utility
[08:12:51] <Konomi> I don't want to grab anything of yours crutchy ;p
[08:12:27] <crutchy> for protection
[08:12:21] <crutchy> i have to wear a chastity belt now :d
[08:12:03] <crutchy> nah she just grabs
[08:11:41] <arti> konomi
[08:10:35] <crutchy> ew who uses captchas?
[08:10:13] <crutchy> we have a gitlab server at work. it's a pretty nice little setup now. took a while to make it happen cos most of it was done on the sly
[08:10:05] <Konomi> ah captchas my personal venting space
[08:09:03] <Konomi> yep you have to be a good little cogg ;p
[08:08:35] <crutchy> managers don't tend to like that much
[08:08:25] <crutchy> if i'm programmering it means i'm not engineering means i'm not bringing in dosh
[08:07:55] <Konomi> true for lots of programmers ;p
[08:07:34] <crutchy> if i'm coding at work (like i was today) i'm generally an overhead so the rule becomes 'hurry up and just make it work'
[08:06:56] <Konomi> depends on your mindset I find both pretty equal
[08:06:42] <crutchy> imho
[08:06:40] <crutchy> its a bit easier to debug human-readable stuff though
[08:06:08] <crutchy> my way is generally... throw a bunch of shit at the wall, see what sticks, run with that :D
[08:06:06] <Konomi> you can never be sure you'll get the output you want when it comes to calling and parsing the output of other programs
[08:05:40] <Konomi> accurately*
[08:05:31] <Konomi> generally for bash my rule is try to do it accurate find the fastest way check the result ;p
[08:05:01] <crutchy> for testing
[08:04:54] <crutchy> if i did it ar's proper way i'd still run stat /etc to make sure it gave me the right output
[08:04:33] <Konomi> or check the exit code
[08:04:15] <Konomi> it's more important to check after the fact you got a result than the way you do it ;p
[08:03:59] <Konomi> both are okay
[08:03:41] <crutchy> i imagine the grepped one would be easier to tell that you're getting the right thing
[08:02:29] <exec> 20150121
[08:02:28] <crutchy> ~eval date '+%Y%m%d' --date="$(stat -c '%y' "/etc")"
[07:56:25] <Konomi> well sh-isms
[07:56:19] <Konomi> seems like sh got bloated though and used for things that would've been better in other languages
[07:55:28] <ar> because you can just copy-paste stuff from your ~/.bash_history, i guess
[07:52:42] <Konomi> too much effort for older scripts I guess
[07:52:01] <Konomi> I'm still not sure why bash caught on tbh it's much slower than say perl python etc
[07:47:25] <Konomi> I had the thought it would be ironic if older/stripped down versions of stat lacked -c and --terse in which case the original code would not fail and using those would
[07:44:09] <ar> oh, right. missed it, because "NOTE:" wasn't outlined like "AUTHOR" and the rest of it
[07:41:28] <Konomi> it's both in the manual file and stat --help
[07:40:54] <Konomi> 8.23
[07:40:44] <ar> GNU coreutils 8.23
[07:40:41] <ar> what coreutils version do you have installed?
[07:40:15] <Konomi> Please refer to your shell's documentation for details about the options it supports.
[07:40:12] <Konomi> NOTE: your shell may have its own version of stat, which usually supersedes the version described here.
[07:40:02] <ar> doesn't here
[07:39:55] <Konomi> better to validate the output than try to find every single length you can go to to make sure that the output is what you want
[07:39:19] <Konomi> specially when the man file states stat might not even be the version you expect at the console
[07:39:02] <Konomi> there's only so much time you should spend worrying about bugs like that
[07:38:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - *AA's at It Again? - http://sylnt.us - whack-a-mole
[07:36:48] <ar> and thus, it's more prone to bugs
[07:36:41] <ar> yes, but that's still not something where you explicitly told stat to use a specified output format
[07:35:16] <Konomi> returns the value in seconds since epoch
[07:34:41] <ar> still not something i'd rely upon
[07:34:08] <Konomi> -t option looks nicer btw
[07:33:42] <Konomi> I was looking for a way to write the original more cleanly not make up for the short comings ;p
[07:33:41] <arti> two snacks for that gem.
[07:33:37] <Bender> karma - ar: 9
[07:33:37] <arti> ar++
[07:33:34] <Bender> karma - ar: 8
[07:33:34] <arti> ar++
[07:33:26] <Konomi> well I've never grepped stat before so I never checked for that ;p
[07:33:10] <ar> D="$(date '+%Y%m%d' --date="$(stat -c '%y' "${DESTDIR}/${x}")")"
[07:33:06] <ar> if you want to parse the output of stat, pass and option to stat to make sure it outputs stuff in specified way
[07:32:51] <Konomi> and that is always an issue.
[07:32:48] <Konomi> awk and grep are always working on human readable output
[07:32:32] <ar> because it's a human-readble output and thus is subject to change at will
[07:32:31] <arti> it is known.
[07:32:25] <ciri> arti, Never.
[07:32:24] <arti> 8ball should we grep stat output
[07:32:10] <Konomi> again why?
[07:31:49] <ar> you shouldn't grep stat output
[07:31:49] <Konomi> why?
[07:31:42] <ar> no, that's still bad
[07:30:53] <Konomi> nicer way
[07:30:49] <Konomi> stat /sbin/init | grep '^Modify:' | awk '{print $2}' | tr -d -
[07:30:39] <arti> i like that one too
[07:28:31] <crutchy> this one from the comments looks pretty cool too: http://i.imgur.com
[07:26:12] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Found this beautful animation today - Imgur
[07:26:12] <arti> http://imgur.com
[07:24:37] <crutchy> somebody poisoned the awk hole
[07:23:58] <crutchy> take the cut out and you get the entire date
[07:23:46] <exec> 20150121
[07:23:45] <crutchy> ~eval stat /etc|grep Modify|awk '{print $2}'|sed 's/-//gi'
[07:23:45] <arti> there's a date in my boot.
[07:23:28] <exec> 2015012
[07:23:27] <crutchy> ~eval stat /etc|grep Modify|awk '{print $2}'|cut -c -9|sed 's/-//gi'
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[07:23:05] <crutchy> the cut command seems to delete the last character of the date :/
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[07:21:35] <crutchy> assuming its trying to get the date, less the dashes
[07:21:05] <crutchy> missed the last digit of the date
[07:20:57] <crutchy> didn't work properly on my test
[07:20:02] <Konomi> lots of people are just used to using this stuff though
[07:19:52] <Konomi> or bash string maniulation
[07:19:32] <Konomi> grep to awk to tr would've been better
[07:19:09] * crutchy tries the whole lot on /etc
[07:18:41] <Konomi> g is just for greedy/repeative match
[07:18:31] <Konomi> symbols don't have case...
[07:18:26] <Konomi> why they added i on the end is beyond me though
[07:18:17] <Konomi> sed is just removing the - character
[07:18:09] <Konomi> I can't remember what cut does ;p
[07:17:59] <Konomi> print the second string using space as a token
[07:17:49] <Konomi> find a line with Modify in it
[07:17:25] * crutchy is still trying to figure out what all that awky-greppy-seddy stuff does
[07:16:48] <Konomi> doesn't come back on it's own ;p ?
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[07:15:51] <crutchy> stupid bot
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[07:15:39] <crutchy> ~eval stat
[07:15:32] <crutchy> oh
[07:15:09] * crutchy was about to do ~eval stat, but thought maybe should try in a terminal for fear of a flood fest
[07:15:05] <ciri> 10!
[07:15:03] <ciri> 9
[07:15:01] <ciri> 8
[07:14:59] <ciri> 7
[07:14:58] <Konomi> couldn't they figure out how to do it with one?
[07:14:57] <ciri> 6
[07:14:55] <ciri> 5
[07:14:54] <ciri> 4
[07:14:53] <Konomi> 3 parsing tools lol
[07:14:10] <Konomi> eww
[07:13:47] <crutchy> so they can communicate with r2d2?
[07:13:05] <ar> why do people do things like this?
[07:12:53] <ar> D=`stat $DESTDIR/$x|grep Modify|awk '{print $2}'|cut -c -9|sed 's/-//gi'`;
[07:12:52] <ar> hyngh
[07:09:18] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 230
[07:09:18] <crutchy> ++coffee
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[07:05:12] <crutchy> might torment ciri in the batcave for a bit :D
[07:02:58] <crutchy> universities are the biggest dole bludgers of the lot
[07:02:30] <crutchy> if they raised their fees they would lose paying bums in seats
[07:02:25] <Konomi> can't tell if business or school looks more like a business to me ~
[07:02:03] <crutchy> i fucking hate universities too
[07:01:51] <crutchy> lol. they know they're so full of shit
[07:01:39] <crutchy> "Universities have strongly opposed the 20 per cent cut and said that it would force the increase of fees under a deregulated system."
[07:00:51] <Konomi> which is probably what he does to most people politically
[07:00:25] <Konomi> the one who looks like he could smile while sticking a knife in you
[07:00:15] <Konomi> he's the one on the right
[07:00:14] <crutchy> :D
[07:00:06] <crutchy> i don't know much about our politicians. they're all stupid
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[06:59:40] <Konomi> god pyne is a creepy looking little man
[06:59:32] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Christopher Pyne's offer to reverse university cuts fails to win support for deregulation
[06:59:30] <Konomi> http://www.smh.com.au
[06:59:29] <Konomi> speaking of creepy things
[06:58:54] <crutchy> or even sent to jail :D
[06:58:38] <crutchy> wow. lookout mother nature. you might be gunna get fined :d
[06:58:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Government To Legislate Against Further Temperature Rises After Record Hot Year ? The Shovel
[06:58:15] <Konomi> http://www.theshovel.com.au
[06:58:13] <Konomi> always a good laugh
[06:58:11] <Konomi> ah the shovel
[06:57:50] <crutchy> tea party is getting fucked up by people twisting it to suit their own agendas but it sure is disrupting the system
[06:57:02] <crutchy> he might. he got pretty far even in the corrupted heart of america
[06:56:39] <Konomi> ron paul was here he'd probably get somewhere
[06:56:27] <crutchy> true dat
[06:56:20] <Konomi> also usa is much much more of a two horse race than our system is
[06:56:13] <crutchy> ron was a bit of an old fart. he knows his shit but he had trouble articulating it sometimes
[06:56:00] <Konomi> scott lundam is an awesome speaker here but never gets past the local WA government seat so x.x
[06:55:31] <crutchy> he's much better speaker than his old man
[06:55:21] <Konomi> people go for the emotive arguements
[06:55:15] <Konomi> he won't too many logical arguements
[06:55:02] <Konomi> rinse wash and repeat
[06:55:01] <crutchy> rand paul may get 2016 in the states
[06:54:58] <Konomi> then new name new candidate next term
[06:54:52] <Konomi> just have the candidate propped up lie their arse off get in do what they really want then get elected out
[06:54:35] <Konomi> makes you wonder if enough people got together and organised that if they could do it
[06:54:08] <Konomi> \o/
[06:54:05] <Konomi> get in then start injecting their ideas
[06:53:59] <Konomi> gotta train the dogooders to be slimey
[06:53:41] <Konomi> pretty much true
[06:53:32] <crutchy> anyone who bucks the system gets forced out regardless of what they believe
[06:53:21] <Konomi> they sooner they show their shitty side the sooner they can be mocked out of politics ;p
[06:53:08] <Konomi> yes we need more politicans like her
[06:52:57] <crutchy> i don't necessarily agree with her policies, but at least she was upfront
[06:52:50] <Konomi> ;p
[06:52:49] <Konomi> "president" - there are just no fucking words now
[06:52:38] <Konomi> "Pauline Hanson" - gag
[06:52:21] <crutchy> yeah you got that right
[06:52:15] * crutchy sighs
[06:52:11] <Konomi> that's your average australian voter thar
[06:51:53] <Konomi> http://i.imgur.com
[06:51:46] <Konomi> and this one is for us crutchy \o/
[06:51:21] * Konomi digs in browser history
[06:51:15] <Konomi> for example!
[06:51:14] <crutchy> ron paul is tea party patient zero
[06:51:13] <Konomi> well the voting public in most countries are stupid
[06:50:55] <crutchy> he created the line
[06:50:55] <Konomi> it's just a different line
[06:50:45] <Konomi> ron paul seems like someone who tows the line just as well as any other politican I've heard speak
[06:50:40] <crutchy> when he mentions austrian and keynesian economics, mostly he gets blank stares
[06:50:22] <Konomi> they're just doing what the masses want anyway
[06:50:09] <crutchy> ron paul understands shit that most politicians and most voters have nfi about
[06:49:38] <Konomi> yeah that'll get you elected and please your voters ;p
[06:49:34] <crutchy> most people are retarded
[06:49:25] <Konomi> "I really like this but here's what's wrong with it!"
[06:49:06] <Konomi> no one buys into their full political agenda
[06:48:59] <Konomi> he'd just be another wank too
[06:48:56] <crutchy> he was no bullshit
[06:48:48] <crutchy> i wish we had ron paul as PM
[06:48:33] <crutchy> big wank i tells ya
[06:48:11] <Konomi> unless someone side by sides it with 5 other speeches from the past and notes the subtle new/different ways topics are handled
[06:47:54] <Konomi> I won't be paying much attention to it besdies what little details came out
[06:47:29] <Konomi> and somehow managed to squeeze drones in a sentence just before it...
[06:47:15] <crutchy> a 2 and a half minute speech by a politician... priceless
[06:47:15] <Konomi> he apparently mentioned the full lgbt community in teh speech which was a first ever
[06:46:46] <crutchy> can't find a youtube of it
[06:46:40] <crutchy> i was kinda interested to see if this was true
[06:46:29] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03‘Well, Here’s What Won’t Pass,’ Obama Says Before Listing 35 Proposals | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
[06:46:29] <crutchy> http://www.theonion.com
[06:46:16] <Konomi> that's the information that is worth looking at
[06:46:09] <Konomi> it's more useful to compare the speeches over time to see what little details change
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[06:45:57] <Konomi> and it's mostly true
[06:45:22] <crutchy> Konomi, you know me so well :d
[06:45:03] <Konomi> any politican talking is a wank to you crutchy ;p
[06:44:41] <crutchy> i'm just an upside down aussie, but it seems like a big wank
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[06:44:22] <crutchy> do americans think the state of the union address is a big wank?
[06:36:09] <Konomi> still does that since they don't package it
[06:34:56] <ar> i just said that the installer was horrible in the old days and messed-up system libraries
[06:34:51] <Konomi> "it's not our package fault!" "it's not ours!" 6 months later they work it out
[06:34:35] <ar> i never said i don't use nvidia or amd binary drivers
[06:34:25] <Konomi> there was also a maintainer spat awhile back where they broke libgl 32 bit for amd64 systems
[06:32:20] <Konomi> before that though in 2x it was a mess
[06:32:14] <Konomi> specially since they started having long release cycle versions
[06:32:02] <Konomi> the nvidia driver has stablised more in the 3x branch though
[06:31:40] <Konomi> can't be bothered easier to just run the bins
[06:31:24] <chromas> have you tried the make package option? seems like it never worked right for me
[06:30:04] <Konomi> so I just went to the bins never bothered to go back
[06:29:56] <Konomi> chromas: yeah I had to switch back when debian had a fatal error in the drivers but never updated it for months
[06:29:33] <ar> you've just brought back the horrid visions of past
[06:29:30] <chromas> are you still using the same card?
[06:29:02] <Konomi> and?
[06:28:50] <ar> i have not used the nvidia installer in over 11 years
[06:28:38] <ar> huh
[06:27:20] <Konomi> the ones in testing are same as mine though at the moment it wasn't always so though ;p
[06:26:13] <Konomi> yes I use the nvidia bins
[06:25:56] <chromas> you used the nvidia installer?
[06:24:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[06:24:37] <Konomi> http://paste.ofcode.org
[06:21:52] * Konomi np: Jeremy Rifkin - The Empathic Civilization _ Ross Institute Summer Academy 2010 [3EZv9H62xm0] [YouTube 18 - 640x360].mp4 :: 456M :: MPlayer/2 UNKNOWN
[06:19:49] <Konomi> "debsums checks the MD5 sums of installed debian packages."
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[06:19:23] <Konomi> ran*
[06:19:19] <Konomi> silly admin
[06:19:18] <Konomi> should've an debsums
[06:09:35] <Bender> karma - latex: 3
[06:09:35] <JamesNZ> latex++
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[06:08:23] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Hacked. A Short Story. / Information Security / Kukuruku / Technology Hub
[06:08:22] <crutchy> http://kukuruku.co
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[06:08:12] <Bytram> and with that...
[06:08:07] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[06:08:07] <Bytram> !woop
[06:08:03] <Bytram> we broke 5K, and still climbing!
[06:07:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Thinks the Insurance Industry Ripe for Disruption - http://sylnt.us - google-risk
[06:07:39] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5020, owned by Soybean
[06:07:39] <Bytram> !uid
[06:07:36] <Bytram> g'night everyone!
[06:07:12] * Bytram just noticed the time and needs to get some sleep.
[06:00:10] <crutchy> why am i not surprised?
[05:59:26] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Backdoor in a Public RSA Key / Information Security / Kukuruku / Technology Hub
[05:59:25] <ar> http://kukuruku.co - whoah. you can craft RSA certificates from which it is possible to extract the private key if you know the public key.
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[05:49:21] <swiss> why not MH4 for Wii U :(
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[05:47:14] * Konomi burns the ME disc
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[05:14:36] * SpallsHurgenson reinstalls WindowsME
[05:13:42] <chromas> crashing is cool now
[05:12:00] <SpallsHurgenson> why would I want a helmet that makes me crash?
[05:09:13] <chromas> Plus the crash helmet, plus a box of [adhesive medical strips]
[05:08:11] * chromas hangs head in shame
[05:08:08] <chromas> can you believe I was trying to work out the math on that?
[05:07:45] <SpallsHurgenson> original price $4000?
[05:07:21] <chromas> Get yourself an LED toilet paper dispenser for just $39.99
[05:06:36] <chromas> Well, scope out this deal, yo! Check it. We're having a 99% off everything sale
[05:04:35] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, my earlier statement wasn't entirely accurate... there are useless gimcracks I'm interested in; I just don't wanna pay as much as they are charging for 'em 'cause I'm pretty sure they aren't worth that much :)
[04:49:03] * chromas calls the consumerism police
[04:45:12] * SpallsHurgenson prefers the higher-quality <sarcasm> tags
[04:43:56] * Bytram offers a SpallsHurgenson a few <sarc> tags
[04:39:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm not racking up debt; please don't kick me out of the country!
[04:39:24] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> I'm a bad american... I WANT to spend my money fruitlessly, but I can't find anything I like and don't already own.
[04:29:42] <Bytram> LOL!
[04:29:28] <SpallsHurgenson> <sarcasm>that's really interesting, Bytram</sarcasm>
[04:20:20] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) article: sarcasm - Plain Old Text
[04:20:20] <Bytram> story 2: http://dev.soylentnews.org
[04:20:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN (dev) article: sarcasm - HTML Only
[04:20:08] <Bytram> story 1: http://dev.soylentnews.org
[04:19:17] <Bytram> I'll admit it appears to be doing the right thing... but... it sure looks NASTY in the editorial preview pane!
[04:18:08] * Bytram was looking at the editorial preview of the above two stories he submitted.
[04:17:52] <Konomi> drive by huggin's
[04:17:43] <Bytram> Konomi: thank-you!
[04:17:18] * Konomi hugs the channel and runs off
[04:12:56] * Bytram has never seen so many < and > entities in one place before
[04:11:07] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: greetings!
[04:10:55] <chromas> that's really sarcastic
[04:10:54] <Bytram> LOL!
[04:10:50] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 5020, owned by Soybean
[04:10:49] <Bytram> !uid
[04:09:26] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0304SN (dev) Submission by martyb: sarcasm - Plain Old Text
[04:09:25] <Bytram> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[04:09:19] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0304SN (dev) Submission by martyb: sarcasm - HTML Only
[04:09:19] <Bytram> http://dev.soylentnews.org
[04:09:08] * Bytram is playing with <sarc> and <sarcasm> on dev =)
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[04:02:21] * Konomi gets the duct tape
[03:53:29] * SpallsHurgenson stretches
[03:47:51] <Konomi> no where you stupid bot >.>
[03:47:43] <Konomi> ;p
[03:47:43] <ciri> where you going? Konomi
[03:47:43] <Konomi> be well john sparten
[03:44:25] <juggs> Time for me to hit the hay - be well all. :)
[03:35:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Meteorites were Byproducts of Planetary Formation, not Building Blocks - http://sylnt.us - billiards-of-the-gods
[03:27:03] <juggs> ~sigh~ wildcard cert would be great really - still not there though.
[03:25:18] <chromas> New project: SoylentCerts
[03:19:41] <juggs> going to have to be at this point. Thinking about ECDSA. But not entirely sure how good client support is for that
[03:16:12] <chromas> self-signed cert, sir!
[03:10:02] <Konomi> do it anyway \o/
[03:08:02] * juggs wonders if renewing the ircd cert and rehashing will cause everyone to get booted off :/ Where's xlefay when ya need him?
[03:05:17] <juggs> Not that I'm cynical or anything
[03:04:42] <Konomi> hehe
[03:02:22] <juggs> Here they would be "Locally caught / Fresh / Organic / Never Frozen" etc. Ain't marketing great :D
[03:01:27] <Konomi> sell them and call them the rare breed of "Mall Fish"
[03:00:36] <juggs> I'm not seeing anything about people living there - just coming in to feed the fish. Presumably they catch them and sell them on the local markets or something ~shrug~
[02:43:44] <Konomi> cause fwee fish
[02:43:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, who would want to live in a shopping mall?
[02:41:23] <Konomi> give them time sure they can get weirder
[02:40:56] <SpallsHurgenson> Earthlings are weird.
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[02:37:53] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Removing Fish From a Surreal Abandoned Shopping Mall - CityLab
[02:37:53] <Konomi> http://www.citylab.com
[02:37:51] <Konomi> also
[02:37:41] <Konomi> Lizard Men imo
[02:34:36] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure it's the illuminati behind it, as usual
[02:31:41] <Konomi> still seems like there's an agenda behind it to me ;p
[02:31:33] <Konomi> could be
[02:30:36] <juggs> well no - but then untold how many aren't being gunned down in the street by law enforcement in Taiwan... so just maybe it is newsworthy there as not much else untoward happens in a strictly ordered society.
[02:27:39] <Konomi> news*
[02:27:34] <Konomi> and I bet if it happened in usa it wouldn't make for a new aritcle ;p
[02:26:59] <Konomi> I know a lot of people who do it though
[02:26:52] <Konomi> I can maybe recall 10 times I read about someone dieing on a computer binge
[02:26:37] <Konomi> yeah how many do it vs how many die doing it?
[02:26:20] <juggs> Not the first time I've heard of someone keeling over during an epic gaming binge though.
[02:25:48] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The NSA not only creates, but also hijacks, malware with Quantumbot | Computerworld
[02:25:47] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.computerworld.com
[02:25:24] <juggs> Maybe it is
[02:25:11] <Konomi> plus it's also another asian country and they seem to love to latch onto use of computers as some sort of sickness
[02:25:03] <juggs> Just sitting for so long so often is not exactly known for it's health benefits. Regardless the activity.
[02:23:52] <Konomi> I mean statistically when people spend a lot of time at their PCs how likely is it just from coincdence than an actual health risk they die at the keyboard?
[02:23:26] <Konomi> the article mentions him doing it in the past
[02:23:17] <Konomi> maybe he just got unlucky and that was heart attack day
[02:23:11] <Konomi> I also hate the fact they blame the 3 day gaming spree
[02:23:02] <Konomi> probably got desperate
[02:22:54] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe they thought he found some really good wankin' material?
[02:22:51] <juggs> Sounds like a cheap way to occupy the mind whilst unemployed. But yeh - a 3 day straight binge of anything with no sleep is never going to end well. :(
[02:22:16] <Konomi> you'd think someone would notice someone spasming at a computer
[02:22:07] <Konomi> also they said the security camera footage for the net cafe showed him struggling
[02:21:42] <Konomi> some of the comments urked me ;p
[02:21:37] * Konomi hides
[02:21:32] <Konomi> just remember it's nothing to do with social inequalities it's obviously his fault he spent his whole time in a gaming cafe while unemployed! \o/
[02:18:09] <juggs> That's an unpleasant thought
[01:37:59] <BadCoderFinger> Those diapers get mighty full.
[01:35:53] <Konomi> if he got first place at least he went out on a high ;p
[01:35:08] <Konomi> "eww"
[01:34:46] <SpallsHurgenson> remember to empty your poop-sock regularly!
[01:34:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Man Dies in Taiwan after 3-day Online Gaming Binge - http://sylnt.us - extra-life
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[01:10:54] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, evil.
[01:03:59] <SpallsHurgenson> SOMEBODY likes to USE capitalization in their TOPICS :)
[01:03:27] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03BMW: ADMEN have asked us for YOUR connected car DATA • The Register
[01:03:27] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.theregister.co.uk
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[00:57:17] <geotti> Good night, people
[00:56:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03MSI USA WS60
[00:56:46] <geotti> http://us.msi.com this, but with skylake
[00:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> heyas
[00:22:09] <JamesNZ> \o TheMightyBuzzard
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[00:03:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Competing Communications Constellations Considered - http://sylnt.us - cloud-above-the-clouds