#Soylent | Logs for 2015-01-15
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[00:16:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - iPhone Separation Linked to Physiological Anxiety and Poor Cognitive Performance - http://sylnt.us - its-a-device-dammit!
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[00:48:42] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[00:48:43] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03GOPR6617.MP4 Can't get a camera any closer than this! - YouTube
[00:48:55] <SpallsHurgenson> (sounds much more NSFW than it is, honest!)
[00:50:51] <chromas> and yet it is pretty hot
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[01:01:59] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[01:02:00] <SpallsHurgenson> somebody needs to sic the EPA on that volcano though; that doesn't look very ecologically friendly
[01:02:20] <BadCoderFinger> Perhaps an enormous cork?
[01:02:52] * SpallsHurgenson resists s/r/c/3/
[01:03:54] <BadCoderFinger> That would still do the trick, but where will we get all that silicone? Hollywood's cornered the market?
[01:05:50] <SpallsHurgenson> forget where, how do you convince somebody that their services are needed?
[01:06:10] * SpallsHurgenson imagines the advert in the trade mags: Needed Immediately: Giant Co*k to jam up a volcano's jacksie.
[01:07:05] <BadCoderFinger> HA!
[01:07:22] <BadCoderFinger> I'm sure there are maagazines that would accept that advert.
[01:07:55] <SpallsHurgenson> the song is horrible but, well, 'Straya https://www.youtube.com
[01:07:55] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03National Anthem of STRAYA (to the tune of Hey Ya) - YouTube
[01:07:56] <chromas> Tonight, on Caulk Talk Radio…
[01:10:25] <SpallsHurgenson> a caulk cock cork?
[01:16:14] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, I gotta say I'm rather disappointed with this channel tonight...
[01:16:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, I was hoping for anger and uproar because of this http://www.phoronix.com
[01:16:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Systemd Gains IP Forwarding, IP Masquerading & Basic Firewall Controls - Phoronix
[01:17:44] <chromas> We've all come to accept and love systemd
[01:17:54] <chromas> you know, with our alzheimer's clocks
[01:18:57] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure poettering is just purposefully trolling the linux community now :)
[01:23:13] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I think so. It's the emacs of this decade.
[01:24:37] <chromas> but emacs is old; therefore, it doesn't rape the Unix Way®™&©
[01:24:51] <SpallsHurgenson> don't be silly, systemd doesn't have a photoeditor embedded in it yet :)
[01:26:44] <BadCoderFinger> Be patient, I'm sure there's an outstanding feature request, heh!
[01:28:26] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe we can just get poettering to give systemd its own kernel... and desktop environment... and file system... and...
[01:28:49] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah. Poetterix. Download away.
[01:28:56] <chromas> it has its own desktop
[01:29:38] <BadCoderFinger> Probably based on Unity, but blue.
[01:30:12] <chromas> I think they call it gnome 3
[01:30:32] <SpallsHurgenson> see? it's practically its own OS already
[01:31:05] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah. Gotta love a desktop environment where the customizations are writting in javascript.
[01:32:35] <SpallsHurgenson> works for firefox :)
[01:33:13] <BadCoderFinger> Rather poorly, I should point out.
[01:34:35] <chromas> there are no memory leaks; figment of your imagination
[01:34:55] <chromas> and/or its the extensions' faults. you shouldn't be using them—they sucks
[01:36:24] * SpallsHurgenson goes on youtube and records a tearful plea "How dare you all make fun of systemd after all its been through? it has binary configs and ip masquerading! poettering gave us pulseaudio! And yet you all want more, more, more (or maybe less)! leave systemd alone! leave it alone!" :)
[01:41:04] <BadCoderFinger> Ha!
[01:47:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US' Oak Ridge Nat'l Lab Partners with Canadian Co to Develop Waste-Eating Nuclear Power Plant - http://sylnt.us - nom-nom-nom
[01:53:21] <SpallsHurgenson> wasn't that how godzilla 2014 started?
[02:02:21] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arstechnica.com please buy us!
[02:02:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Windows Phone getting even cheaper with two new sub-$100 smartphones | Ars Technica
[02:04:16] * Konomi zombies into the channel
[02:05:02] <SpallsHurgenson> well, if you're looking for braaaaiiinnnsss you're gonna be disappointed :)
[02:07:15] <BadCoderFinger> Didn't Tizen get a released phone recently?
[02:08:16] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently http://www.pcworld.com
[02:08:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Samsung's first Tizen phone is finally here: The $92 Z1 | PCWorld
[02:11:51] <paulej72> I am the zombie
[02:12:23] <SpallsHurgenson> I am Spartazombie! No, I am Spartazombie!
[02:13:26] <chromas> ooh, it even has a rape whistle
[02:14:15] <JamesNZ> O_o
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[02:14:29] <SpallsHurgenson> press the power button four times and it sends out a help message to primary contacts? I'd be in trouble; I do that all the time (sort of a nervous twitch)
[02:14:50] <BadCoderFinger> Holy crap, that bites.
[02:14:52] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[02:17:12] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.securityweek.com this would probably matter more if anyone actually used corel software anymore :)
[02:17:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Unpatched Security Flaws Impact Corel Software Products | SecurityWeek.Com
[02:17:37] <chromas> Poor Corel
[02:17:46] <chromas> Lawyers still use wordperfect though
[02:17:56] <chromas> so maybe some lawsuits will fly
[02:19:21] <SpallsHurgenson> I've worked with lawyers. lawyers don't use computers. their paralegals use the computers for them.
[02:20:56] <chromas> that makes sense
[02:21:09] <chromas> don't have time for that mumbo jumbo
[02:21:30] <chromas> Lawyers probably don't read documents either
[02:21:43] <Konomi> computers get sick when they enter their documents into them ;p
[02:22:32] <SpallsHurgenson> no, lawyers read very, very well
[02:22:40] <SpallsHurgenson> (and they have all the BEST lawyer jokes :)
[02:22:55] <Konomi> waiting for my AI lawyer
[02:24:53] <paulej72> a layer with all the law books in memory
[02:25:09] * SpallsHurgenson has a horrifying image of Clippy crossed with a lawyer, "It looks like you are trying to sue your neighbor, would you like help preparing your case?"
[02:25:45] <Konomi> paulej72: would need so much ram
[02:25:58] <chromas> "Who can web sue today?"
[02:26:04] <chromas> s/b//
[02:26:04] <SedNotABot> <chromas> "Who can we sue today?"
[02:26:08] <paulej72> 640k
[02:31:23] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[02:31:23] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Insert 'Skeleton Key', unlock Microsoft Active Directory. Simples – hackers • The Register
[02:32:27] <chromas> is it that _NSAKEY I've been hearing about?
[02:35:09] <SpallsHurgenson> no, this is an "in-memory patch"
[02:36:21] <SpallsHurgenson> sounds sort of like a "noCD" hack for AD; it bypasses the authentication entirely :)
[02:40:37] <Konomi> heh I like how if I randomly rant or link to an artlce here it ends up being a story on the main page at some point ;p
[02:41:11] <chromas> do it some more, so we get moar stoaries
[02:41:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I know the feeling :)
[02:41:30] <Konomi> they're watching us O.O
[02:45:04] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[02:45:05] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Flite Test | Will it Fly? - Avengers Helicarrier - YouTube
[02:48:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - io.js 1.0.1 Released - http://sylnt.us - grab-some-popcorn
[02:53:45] <SpallsHurgenson> expect oled panels to triple in price for the next six months http://www.fudzilla.com
[02:53:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03LG told to stop OLED production
[02:55:26] <Konomi> nuu my shineys ;_;
[02:55:30] <chromas> speaking of office software a long, long time ago, IBM should open source the Lotus stuff
[02:56:10] <Konomi> why
[02:56:15] <Konomi> it's so old just let it die
[02:56:18] <Konomi> let it dieeeeee
[02:56:21] <SpallsHurgenson> information wants to be free!
[02:56:31] <Konomi> people want to be free information doesn't want dick
[02:56:32] <chromas> competition yo
[02:56:32] <Konomi> >.<
[02:57:12] <chromas> database_desktops++
[02:57:12] <Bender> karma - database_desktops: 1
[02:57:19] <SpallsHurgenson> people are chemically-encoded information :)
[02:57:29] <Konomi> if it wants anything it's to have people stop treating it like a enitity ;p
[02:57:38] <Konomi> an*
[02:57:47] <SpallsHurgenson> information wants a snickers candy bar :)
[02:58:00] <chromas> let's throw it a lemon party
[02:58:35] <Konomi> yay I love lemons
[02:58:50] <SpallsHurgenson> http://thehackernews.com oh no, all the selfies are exposed!
[02:58:51] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Instagram Patches flaw that Makes Private Photos Visible - Hacker News
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[02:59:36] <Konomi> slight ripple in donar cover
[02:59:40] <Konomi> this must be corrected
[02:59:55] <chromas> hey now, nude selfies are the only reason for instagram's existence
[03:00:03] <SpallsHurgenson> somebody better get busy submitting all these links to soylent; only 9 stories left in queue :)
[03:00:25] * SpallsHurgenson nominates chromas; does anybody second?
[03:01:03] <chromas> it'll fill the queue but won't get the comments rolling if I post it
[03:01:33] * chromas looks for a soylent tab
[03:02:16] * chromas looks at the queue
[03:02:17] <chromas> "forget vaccinations - infant circumcision leads to autism"
[03:02:57] <SpallsHurgenson> not news, but vaguely related http://hoaxes.org :)
[03:02:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Holy Foreskin (800 CE)
[03:04:37] <Konomi> foreskin is always related...
[03:04:39] <Konomi> >.<
[03:08:48] <chromas> nuh uh! sometimes it's detached
[03:09:05] <chromas> almost forgot to link the submission
[03:12:44] <chromas> "Samsung Electronics Co Ltd, the world's biggest TV manufacturer, has steered clear of OLED, saying the technology is not ready yet for mass consumption."
[03:13:06] <chromas> except for all their flagship phones
[03:17:16] <BadCoderFinger> Marketing.
[03:18:09] <BadCoderFinger> Gotta love it.
[03:18:27] <SpallsHurgenson> or their phones aren't ready for mass consumption
[03:19:11] <chromas> It's true. Nobody buys Samsung
[03:21:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't talk; I have a cheap LG phone that runs on, I dunno, Windows 3 or something :)
[03:22:23] <chromas> for Workgroups?
[03:23:21] <SpallsHurgenson> I should be so lucky :)
[03:28:26] <BadCoderFinger> Phones running DesqView...
[03:28:34] <SirFinkus> there is a significant difference in scale though
[03:28:43] <BadCoderFinger> Actually, wasn't there a Nokia that ran GEOS?
[03:28:56] <SirFinkus> and factors that are important on phones are less important on tvs etc
[03:29:29] <SirFinkus> OLED's lower power consumption could make the benefits outweigh the drawbacks on a phone, but not for a tv
[03:31:46] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[03:31:46] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[03:33:13] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com
[03:33:51] <SpallsHurgenson> once again, what the hell am I looking at?
[03:34:13] <Konomi> stuff!
[03:34:22] <Konomi> also it was in a non english language so I am not sure myself ;p
[03:35:45] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently some sort of mixer and not - as I first thought - a portable control station for a nuclear reactor :)
[03:36:58] <Konomi> oh the mixer
[03:37:04] <Konomi> sorry thought you meant the cityscape picture
[03:38:37] <BadCoderFinger> Looks kinda like somebody stuck a bunch of guitar effects in a toolbox.
[03:40:50] <SpallsHurgenson> TipTop Audio Station 252 Silver Bullet Mobile Eurorack System http://www.tiptopaudio.com
[03:40:50] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Tiptop Audio - Station 252: Mobile Eurorack System
[03:41:50] <swiss> http://imgur.com all set up for poker nights
[03:41:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Backyard - Imgur
[03:42:13] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, a table
[03:42:16] <SpallsHurgenson> a ROUND table
[03:42:25] * SpallsHurgenson looks on with envy.
[03:44:45] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: was $70 on amazon or so
[03:44:47] <swiss> maybe $85
[03:45:13] <SpallsHurgenson> well worth every dollar; I mean, it has FOUR legs! :)
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[03:47:13] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... that cityscape looks like moscow
[03:47:30] <swiss> huh?
[03:47:35] <swiss> it's LA county
[03:48:10] <SpallsHurgenson> scroll up :)
[03:48:17] <swiss> oh
[03:55:31] <SpallsHurgenson> now scroll down.
[03:55:35] <SpallsHurgenson> now scroll a bit to the left
[03:55:38] <SpallsHurgenson> no, that's too far!
[03:57:34] * chromas scrolls back and the the left. Back and to the left. Ba
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[04:01:11] * SpallsHurgenson prepares to lol
[04:06:10] * SpallsHurgenson LOLs
[04:06:18] * SpallsHurgenson reports LOL complete
[04:11:53] <BadCoderFinger> Token Ring LOL? Man, you have a weird laugh network.
[04:13:25] * SpallsHurgenson prepares to LOL
[04:13:54] <SpallsHurgenson> A fatal exception 0e has occurred at 0020:c0011e36 in LOL.EXE. The current application will be terminated.
[04:15:50] * chromas inserts a linux disc into SpallsHurgenson
[04:16:08] <SpallsHurgenson> Some unexpected errors have happened to software you recently used. Would you like to report these errors to Microsoft <send reports now> <see details> <don't send>
[04:16:30] * chromas looks around to see which three extremities nee to be simultaneously toggled to reboot
[04:18:32] <SpallsHurgenson> please press left eartip, nose, and naughty-bits simultaneously to reboot
[04:22:15] <BadCoderFinger> Won't you need make-up for the blue in bluescreen?
[04:22:24] * chromas flips the naughty bit to evil
[04:22:59] <Leebert> So... I lost my iPhone earlier tonight. But before I retraced my steps to go find it, I decided to make dinner. Sat down to dinner, loaded up the interwebs to read while eating, and: "iPhone Separatoin Linked to Physiological Anxiety..."
[04:23:00] <SpallsHurgenson> and suddenly chromas has a taste for necrophilia
[04:23:46] <SpallsHurgenson> didja get the shakes, leebert?
[04:25:48] <chromas> Yeah…suddenly…
[04:26:28] <Leebert> SpallsHurgenson: Kinda.
[04:26:50] <Leebert> Actually, it was "I really don't have time to go research new phones right now."
[04:29:32] * juggs wanders around aimlessly
[04:30:48] * SpallsHurgenson suggests juggs sit down, relax, and stare in wonderment at swiss's new table
[04:32:37] <juggs> Is there actually room for people around that? And am I looking at a back yard or a postage stamp??
[04:33:03] <juggs> Good work on the lights though :D
[04:33:34] <SpallsHurgenson> needs more LED strings. everything is better with colored LEDs
[04:34:01] <juggs> They may be LED globes.
[04:34:10] * chromas sneaks in and washes swiss' dishes
[04:34:13] <SpallsHurgenson> we can only pray
[04:34:47] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm
[04:35:03] * SpallsHurgenson takes a picture of his dirty dishes, posts it to imgur, and waits for chromas to appear
[04:35:47] * juggs wishes he didn't do his so they could also be chromassed
[04:36:35] <SpallsHurgenson> I could come over and dirty 'em for you, if it would help. I'm very good at making a mess :)
[04:37:21] <juggs> No thanks, you'd probably bring along a container load of dusty 'puter bits and expect to store them under my floorboards or something
[04:39:21] * Konomi summons the hounds and releases them
[04:39:49] <SpallsHurgenson> it doesn't count if they are chihuahuas
[04:41:29] <Konomi> but but they're adorable
[04:42:17] <chromas> They leave chalupas under the bed
[04:44:04] <SpallsHurgenson> it's brown 'n' squishy but I don't think those are chalupas
[04:46:47] <juggs> tasty morsels when barbequed
[04:47:35] <SpallsHurgenson> which: chihuahuas, chalupas or the other brown, squishy things?
[04:48:50] <juggs> I have no idea what the "other" would be
[04:49:13] <SpallsHurgenson> feed the second to the first and wait :)
[04:49:52] <BadCoderFinger> Chupacabras?
[04:49:53] <juggs> Why bother - aren't they the same going in as coming out?
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[04:54:14] <juggs> ^^ He had a cunning plan!
[04:55:23] <SpallsHurgenson> I wonder which Black Adder he will watch
[04:58:01] <SpallsHurgenson> I was always partial to the second
[05:02:06] <SpallsHurgenson> that's the one with the turnip shaped like a thingee, after all
[05:05:58] <juggs> It's all good
[05:07:46] * SpallsHurgenson smells a fly roasting on his halogen lamp
[05:09:06] <juggs> hmm... crunchy snack
[05:11:11] <SpallsHurgenson> for no particular reason, I need more thumb drives
[05:13:41] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, I got a bagful of the things but I'm pretty sure I need more
[05:14:37] <juggs> Do you have any idea what is on your existing bagful?
[05:15:19] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, they are all formatted and empty before they go in the bag :)
[05:21:20] <juggs> formatted and sfilled no doubt - just to be sure. But yeh - you need more.
[05:28:35] <SpallsHurgenson> then it is agreed. to the store!
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[05:30:32] <juggs> I do fear one day we will find SpallsHurgenson asphyxiated under a pile of outdated 'puter detritus.
[05:50:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - West Facing 'Payback' for Colonialism, says China's State-run Paper - http://sylnt.us - schadenfreude
[06:26:21] <swiss> juggs: basically a postage stamp
[06:26:31] <swiss> just enough room for some chairs and a poker table i think
[06:27:01] <swiss> also, they're not LED globes, they're good ol incandescents
[06:27:13] <swiss> got them off amazon for not too much
[06:33:12] <swiss> chromas: not many dishes to wash, the dishwasher does that
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[07:02:55] <crutchy_> http://www.wsj.com
[07:02:56] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Bitcoin’s Plunge Bites ‘Miners’ - WSJ
[07:03:03] <crutchy_> coffee+++
[07:03:06] <crutchy_> coffee++
[07:03:06] <Bender> karma - coffee: 974
[07:04:33] <crutchy_> i still can't see intrinsic value in a bitcoin like there is in gold
[07:05:51] <crutchy_> the technology is valuable no doubt, but it will never be a gold killer anymore than the mighty greenback
[07:10:02] <crutchy_> http://ens-newswire.com
[07:10:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Obama's Proposed Methane Emissions Cuts Ignore Existing Sources | Environment News Service
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[07:33:39] <swiss> my conversion to insteon is nearly complete
[08:06:23] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[08:06:23] <Bender> karma - tea: 357
[08:06:24] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[08:06:24] <Bender> karma - tea: 358
[08:22:46] <Konomi> https://m1.behance.net
[08:22:50] <Konomi> caffeine++
[08:22:50] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 66
[08:23:33] <Konomi> >.<
[08:23:34] <Konomi> http://blog.erratasec.com
[08:23:34] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Errata Security: Obama's War on Hackers
[08:23:43] <chromas> a lot of red streaks on dem cars
[08:23:51] <Konomi> don't click that link \o/
[08:23:52] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[08:23:52] <Bender> karma - tea: 359
[08:23:53] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[08:23:53] <Bender> karma - tea: 360
[08:24:01] <Konomi> haha
[08:24:02] * JamesNZ double clicks
[08:24:14] <JamesNZ> That's a pretty cool photo Konomi.
[08:24:18] <Konomi> yeah
[08:24:23] <Konomi> I think it's drawn actually
[08:24:30] <JamesNZ> -_-
[08:24:39] * JamesNZ crawls back under his rock
[08:25:14] * chromas slides a coffee under JamesNZ's rock
[08:25:19] <Konomi> whoever aliased coffee-- to tea++ is great
[08:25:33] * JamesNZ hisses at chromas
[08:26:26] * Konomi gives chromas a cookie
[08:26:34] <chromas> instead of the crap from that article, what they should do is spank companies who use SSNs for anything, which they're not supposed to be doing anyway
[08:27:05] <chromas> they used to write 'not to be used for id' right on the cards; they don't now i guess
[08:27:41] * chromas checks cookie for hidden shell scripts
[08:27:59] <Konomi> you don't trust my cookies ._. ?
[08:29:20] <chromas> I figured it's a plot to get root in my cookie jar
[08:29:59] <Konomi> "Even if you don’t do any of this, you can still be guilty if you hang around with people who do. Obama proposes upgrading hacking to a “racketeering” offense, means you can be guilty of being a hacker by simply acting like a hacker (without otherwise committing a specific crime)."
[08:30:04] <Konomi> well shit
[08:40:43] <chromas> we'll all be in trouble if that 1337 h4x0r poutine comes back
[08:41:58] <Konomi> shh don't talk like that
[08:42:01] <Konomi> I don't wanna go to jails
[08:44:05] <chromas> bsd jails
[08:44:22] <chromas> ooh, linux or systemd should one-up them with gitmos
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[08:52:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Mainframe is Dead! Long Live the Mainframe! - http://sylnt.us - big-iron
[08:53:19] <chromas> does that mean cobol is finally dead?
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[09:43:35] <Konomi> http://fc08.deviantart.net
[10:00:22] <ar> aww
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[11:11:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:11:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 975
[11:30:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> booting winders for an hour or so of gaming then gone fishing
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[11:55:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ted Cruz's Plan for NASA is Epic - http://sylnt.us - in-spaaaaaace
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[13:08:13] <Bytram> !coffee
[13:08:14] * ciri passes Bytram a cup of coffee
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[13:08:24] <Bytram> coffee++ # doh!
[13:08:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 976
[13:08:29] <Bytram> !uid
[13:08:29] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4988, owned by Cenan
[13:08:34] <Bytram> ~wether boston
[13:08:43] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[13:18:56] <Bytram> !weather boston
[13:43:56] * SirFinkus is having the worst gas in the world
[13:45:23] * Konomi gets the gus mask?
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[13:51:20] * Bytram waves at LaminatorX
[13:51:35] <Bytram> LaminatorX: Good Morning!
[13:53:38] <LaminatorX> Hello. Thought I'd pop in and say,"hey." Sorry to have been scarce. I've got a new job that's less conducive to loitering on IRC all morning.
[13:54:04] <Konomi> who will do Lamination assassinations now though?
[13:54:23] <Bytram> LaminatorX: good to "see" you here!
[13:54:28] <LaminatorX> Lamination is legion.
[13:54:53] <Bytram> My job schedule had been pretty wacky the past several weeks and am only now getting a bit more spare time to check in on things.
[13:55:52] <Bytram> hmmm, assassamations or lamitations?
[13:56:17] <LaminatorX> I'm happy we've gotten to the point where things run fairly smoothly.
[13:56:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk Plans to Sell 'a Few Million' Electric Cars per year by 2025 - http://sylnt.us - rolling-thunder
[13:56:44] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:57:19] <Bytram> though, of course, there's a site update planned for the not-too-distant future... and we usually have some "fun" around those.
[13:57:21] <Bytram> =)
[13:57:34] <LaminatorX> Fun is good.
[13:58:16] <Bytram> not so much the kind that *I* was talking about, though!
[13:59:08] <LaminatorX> Ah, I've got some of that kind of fun in about 15 minutes.
[13:59:28] <Bytram> LOL! Best of luck to ya!
[13:59:53] * Bytram offers a slighty worn pair of asbestos shorts
[14:00:39] <LaminatorX> Hey, while tedious, I'm happy to be in a group that actually does build reviews and acceptance testing. The former crew just did things willy nelly and were shocked when things didn't work.
[14:00:59] <Bytram> you're not kidding, are you?
[14:01:01] * Bytram shudders
[14:01:09] <CoolHand> sounds like an improvement.. :)
[14:01:58] <LaminatorX> If a specification or requirements document exists for my old dept's line of business app, I never saw it.
[14:02:54] <Bytram> LaminatorX: quick editorial question... when citing the name of a publication, it is appropriate to emphasize it: <em>The Register</em>
[14:03:19] <Bytram> I'm of the mind that it should be so emphasized throughout the document, not just the first reference... correct?
[14:04:09] <Bytram> that serves to remove possible misreadings of publication names as opposed to their common English meanings.
[14:04:20] <LaminatorX> traditionally, that would've been something to underline, but on the web that get's confused for links, so it's become kind of a free for all.
[14:05:31] <LaminatorX> I think either a first use emphasis, much like when one introduces an abbreviation spelled out the first time then uses the abbreviation freely thereafter, or a recurring emphasis can work.
[14:05:57] <LaminatorX> It's to which way to go, I would let the nature of the title be your guide.
[14:06:22] <LaminatorX> If it's something where confusion is likely, recurring emphasis is more helpful.
[14:06:45] <Bytram> yeah. I was of two minds on that. Either is probably acceptable. Yet, my thoughts are that there are no downsides to always emphasizing it... much like an "Oxford Comma".
[14:07:17] <LaminatorX> If the name is more distinctive, less emphasis is OK, but doesn't hurt unless it gets so frequent as to be distracting.
[14:07:18] <Bytram> Book dedication: "To my parents, the pope and mother thresa."
[14:07:26] <Bytram> yuppers!
[14:07:40] <Bytram> the whole idea is to convey information
[14:07:54] <Bytram> the emphasis is a means to an end, not an end in itself.
[14:09:01] <LaminatorX> Cool. Good question. Ok, I gotta run. Stay awesome, everyone.
[14:09:20] <Bytram> and best of luck to ya! Find them bugs now instead of later!
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[14:14:04] <Bytram> afk
[14:33:41] <Konomi> sooo
[14:33:51] <Konomi> what would people consider to be a lite weight small http server?
[14:34:10] <Konomi> looking to just have a directory listing usable via http
[14:35:17] <Bytram> Konomi: good question. I have no first-hand experience, but have heard good things about nginx and hiawatha
[14:35:37] <Konomi> I was thinking litehttpd or whatever it is
[14:35:50] <Bytram> yeah, that's a good one, too..
[14:36:15] <Bytram> I think it's lighttpd
[14:36:37] <Konomi> might go with it
[14:37:29] <Bytram> idea: go to wikipedia, search on lighttp[d] and see what category it's in... there's probably a comparison table out there
[14:37:46] <Konomi> might be a good idea hehe
[14:37:51] <Bytram> =)
[14:40:00] <Bytram> start here: https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:40:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03 ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[14:40:21] <ar> Konomi: nginx? lighttpd? "python -mSimpleHTTPServer"?
[14:42:11] <Bytram> Konomi: and then look at: https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:42:11] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Comparison of web server software
[14:42:17] <Konomi> nods
[14:42:28] <Bytram> smiles
[14:48:26] <Bytram> Konomi: a thought: do plan ahead that although a stupid-simple-lightweight server may be sufficient, for now, software has a tendency to "grow" over time and take on new functions... don't set yourself up to fail in the future, if you know what I mean?
[14:48:51] <Konomi> oh I was just looking for something basic I wasn't going to write anything
[14:49:37] <Bytram> the other thought is that you'd probably want to use something that is still supported. Sort by date of last release, here: https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:49:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Comparison of web server software
[14:50:25] <Bytram> btw, what platform would it be running on? Linux? Windows? That might be a factor, too. ;)
[14:50:36] <Konomi> linux
[14:50:40] <Konomi> I always use linux
[14:50:48] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:50:54] <Bytram> hey!
[14:51:10] <Bytram> Take some notes as you go along -- would make a great story to submit to SN!
[14:51:38] <Bytram> Or, write it up as an "Ask SoylentNews" article. =)
[14:51:53] <Konomi> that sounds awfully like work to me ;p
[14:52:18] * Bytram offers Konomi some ear plugs
[14:52:26] <Bytram> sounds good to ME
[14:53:29] <Bytram> just a simple submission: "Hey, I'm looking to set up a simple directory serving web-server. Thought I'd draw on the combined wisdom of the community here. Anyone have some suggestions on a ...."
[14:54:21] <Bytram> Just throw *something* up as a submission, give me a couple minutes to ask some questions to flesh it out, and... voila!
[14:55:14] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[14:55:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[14:55:19] * Konomi groans and goes to hide under her desk
[14:55:52] * Bytram searches for a flashlight / torch
[14:58:20] <Bytram> just go to that link, cut-n-paste the above, and I'll take it from there. If *I* submit the story, then I have to wait for another editor to review/approve it. If *you* submit it, then I can approve it and put it up on the site, myself. =)
[14:59:08] <Bytram> and, when a story is accepted, you get (IIRC) 3 Karma points =)
[15:01:09] <Konomi> might be better to make it about how to personally share files since that was my intent ;p
[15:02:29] <Bytram> Ah! Even BETTER! Go for it!
[15:03:03] <Bytram> brb
[15:07:03] <Bytram> bak
[15:07:13] <Bytram> Konomi: ummm, wait a minute...
[15:07:52] <Bytram> if you are just trying to share files, then dropbox (or the like) OR use set up an FTP server
[15:08:12] <Konomi> I try to minimise servers that get to hold my data
[15:08:20] <Konomi> I prefer it being on my stuff not others
[15:08:35] * Konomi is pro p2p internet
[15:08:37] <Bytram> thought so, but wanted to make sure. So, host it locally
[15:08:39] <Konomi> as in not so many servers
[15:09:01] <Konomi> as ironic as that sounds when applying it to my question xD
[15:09:31] <Bytram> you might have some "challenges" if you are behind a firewall?
[15:11:10] <Bytram> see: https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:11:10] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: List of FTP server software
[15:12:45] <Konomi> I can port foward
[15:12:51] <Konomi> I already have ddns
[15:12:58] <Bytram> kewel!
[15:13:05] <Konomi> ftp is kind of lame >.<
[15:13:21] <Konomi> feels like all the security they added is a kludge
[15:13:39] <Bytram> how much security do you *need*?
[15:13:39] <ciri> how how brown cow
[15:13:52] <Konomi> the basics
[15:14:14] <Konomi> just feels like a mess
[15:14:25] <Konomi> you need to do extra to get say ftps or sftps running
[15:14:34] <Konomi> urks me it's still not a default
[15:14:43] <Bytram> oh. You already have an HTTP server running?
[15:14:57] <Konomi> nah I had a basic one but it was a bit too fragile for my liking
[15:15:04] <Konomi> it was to serve bzr braches
[15:15:21] <Bytram> Konomi: s/braches/branches/
[15:15:21] <SedNotABot> <Bytram> <Konomi> it was to serve bzr branches
[15:15:21] <Bytram> ?
[15:15:47] <Konomi> I used apache in the past but it is pretty heavy for something this basic
[15:15:49] <Konomi> yeah ;p
[15:17:03] <Bytram> maybe get a RasPI? http://raspi.com or http://www.penguintutor.com
[15:17:11] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Running a lightweight webserver on the Raspberry Pi (lighttpd) - Linux tutorial from PenguinTutor
[15:17:37] <Bytram> Hedonismbot: http://raspi.com
[15:18:22] <Bytram> lightweight server; isolated; low-cost... what's not to like?
[15:18:50] <Bytram> I agree that Apache is a bit overboard for what you are proposing to do. KISS
[15:21:11] <Bytram> Konomi: what distro are you running?
[15:21:22] <Konomi> debian
[15:21:43] <Konomi> O
[15:21:52] <Konomi> I'll probably got with litehttpd or whaever it is
[15:21:54] <Bytram> hmmm, a quick search revealed: http://www.debian-administration.org
[15:21:55] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03 ( /article/228/Setting_up_an_FTP_server_on_Debian )
[15:22:15] <Konomi> lighttpd
[15:22:22] <Konomi> I never realised how head messy that name is
[15:22:55] <Bytram> light+httpd == ligHTTPd
[15:23:32] <Bytram> what release? squeeze?
[15:25:53] <Bytram> Konomi: ^^^
[15:26:00] <Konomi> jessie
[15:26:12] <Konomi> I use pinned rolling setup though
[15:26:30] <Bytram> https://packages.debian.org
[15:26:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Debian -- Details of package lighttpd in jessie
[15:27:08] <Bytram> I searched for: Jessie install lighttpd on https://duckduckgo.com and that was the first returned result
[15:27:08] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03DuckDuckGo
[15:27:56] <Konomi> http://paste.debian.net
[15:27:57] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Debian Pastezone
[15:29:00] <SirFinkus> fucking black helicopters
[15:29:06] <SirFinkus> they're drilling or something
[15:29:10] <SirFinkus> annoying as fuck
[15:29:45] * Bytram offers SirFinkus a paintbball gun loaded with white paintballs -- that should do it! ;)
[15:30:17] <Bytram> s/bb/b/
[15:30:17] <SedNotABot> <Bytram> offers SirFinkus a paintball gun loaded with white paintballs -- that should do it! ;)
[15:30:19] <SirFinkus> yeah, I'm sure that will be productive
[15:30:55] <Bytram> harlequin helicopters -- has a nice ring to it!
[15:30:57] <Konomi> use your gus on them
[15:31:19] <SirFinkus> good idea
[15:31:35] <SirFinkus> they can probably smell it
[15:32:52] <SirFinkus> "Many US law enforcement agencies use black helicopters for surveillance" oh shit, they're onto me
[15:58:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Planet Hunter sees First Light - http://sylnt.us - the-goggles-they-do-nothing!
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[16:31:07] <RandomUser> Hey guys! Just wanted to say keep up the great work. Beta was heartbreaking to witness, very glad to see there will be a future for community castoffs when dice goes full retard.
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[16:32:15] <RandomUser> Your story que already a better feed, so editors must be more on the ball... looking forward to seeing where this goes!
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[16:44:42] <Bytram> http://phys.org
[16:44:42] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Trans-Neptunian objects suggest that there are more planets in the solar system
[17:29:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Your Private Instagrams Weren’t as Private as You Thought They Were - http://sylnt.us - there-is-no-privacy-on-the-interwebs
[17:51:38] <Bytram> http://www.cnet.com
[17:51:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03T-Mobile's new prepaid plans start at $40 per month - CNET
[18:09:21] <swiss> i am having baller service with virgin mobile atm
[18:11:15] <Bytram> swiss: are you in the US?
[18:11:43] <Bytram> I've heard their coverage is... spotty.
[18:13:46] <swiss> yep, i'm in california
[18:13:53] <swiss> no issues
[18:15:12] <Bytram> I'm in the northeast with some large-ish cities/towns but lotsa empty space, too.
[18:15:31] <swiss> the tmobile one is cool cause that'll work with the 1+1
[18:16:13] * Bytram wishes tethering / mi-fi was included
[18:24:59] <Bytram> http://arstechnica.com
[18:25:00] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Activist pulls off clever Wi-Fi honeypot to protest surveillance state | Ars Technica
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[18:42:50] <Bytram> nap time
[18:43:01] <Bytram> have a good day everyone!
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[19:17:49] <swiss> systemd, windows for linux
[19:18:54] <mechanicjay> what, are you some kind of troll or something? :)
[19:19:26] <mechanicjay> Ready?
[19:19:52] <swiss> lol, no, more of just commenting on "systemd merged in networking automatic nat and iptables"
[19:19:57] <mechanicjay> Digital Ocean now offers FreeBSD vps: $100 discount if you have an edu address.
[19:20:10] <swiss> i wonder if they deactivated my .edu yet
[19:20:10] <mechanicjay> https://assets.digitalocean.com
[19:20:11] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Announcing FreeBSD on DigitalOcean!
[19:30:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Proteins Found in the Brain May Help Speed Up Flu Recovery While you Sleep - http://sylnt.us - I'll-stay-in-bed-just-in-case
[20:30:33] <Leebert> You know you work at NASA when you justify spending 20 minutes mindlessly clicking through APOD as "research to find a good background for my powerpoint slides."
[20:31:03] <Leebert> (n.b.: Essentially all of my PowerPoint presentations are black text on white background.)
[20:45:58] <chromas> powerpoint--
[20:45:58] <Bender> karma - powerpoint: -3
[20:59:50] <Leebert> Eh, PowerPoint has its place.
[21:55:03] <Leebert> grrr. My new BlackBerry is all swipeified; they took away a bunch of physical keys.
[21:55:06] <Leebert> Damn hipsters.
[22:02:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Anti-Malware Laws in Canada Target Installation Without Consent - http://sylnt.us - yes-I-wants-mal-kittens-pics!
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[23:02:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, was gonna take the boat out fishing tomorrow but forgot it's a new year and i don't wanna bother with getting a new boat permit.
[23:06:44] <paulej72> you must be hard up to take a boat out. I would thing a good looking woman would be a better choice.
[23:07:58] <paulej72> ~weather
[23:08:32] <chromas> some women are boats
[23:09:07] <paulej72> hey, stop making fun of my sister
[23:09:40] <chromas> I mean to be making fun of yo mama
[23:10:14] <paulej72> but my sister is bigger :)
[23:11:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> likely bigger than my boat. just a little aluminum bass boat.
[23:12:05] <paulej72> I am slowly getting my new Windows box that I got about 6 months ago finally set up to be my main workstation
[23:12:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> masochist much?
[23:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i prefer my workstations, well, work
[23:12:37] <paulej72> I was dreading getting all of the apps installed so I kept putting it off
[23:13:22] <paulej72> Plus I was running on a Mac laptop so I was mostly set other than needing more screen realestate.
[23:13:45] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: Ice fishing, you mean? :)
[23:14:13] <Leebert> And thank you for reminding me to renew my reservoir boat permit that I used 0 times last year. Sigh.
[23:14:18] <paulej72> I was never good at ice fishing, I could never get the the ice to take the bait
[23:14:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, nah this lake never freezes. one the next town over was half covered in ice when i went and drug a line through it though.
[23:15:09] <Leebert> Crazy how much weather can vary over a small distance.
[23:15:32] <Leebert> You really get that point driven home when you ride a motorcycle. Comfy, comfy (ride into valley) OMG COLD
[23:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> not so much the weather as the size difference in the lakes. much bigger heatsink in the one i normally go to.
[23:15:55] <Leebert> Gotcha.
[23:16:22] <Leebert> Maybe more movement in the water and/or more turnover of the water also?
[23:16:27] <paulej72> it's called a pond if it is that small
[23:17:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> it is a bit presumptuous to call the wintersmith one a lake but they do just the same
[23:18:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> doubt it hits 20 feet deep anywhere in it.
[23:18:19] <paulej72> most of the lakes I am familiar with were all man made.
[23:18:45] <paulej72> they have the same problem, fairly shallow
[23:18:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. most of em in the nation were made after the dust bowl.
[23:20:24] <paulej72> well it is food o'clock so I am off for now.
[23:20:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> good damned thing too or we'd be in another one right now. we got less rain the past two years than we did in most dust bowl years.
[23:20:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep laters.
[23:24:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> think ima spend an hour checking my eyelids for holes then get up n eat food
[23:31:47] <Leebert> I was surprised to find out that all lakes here in Maryland are man-made. MD has no natural lakes.
[23:32:24] <Leebert> Well, "here" being slightly incorrect since I'm still at work in DC, but you know what I mean.
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