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[00:14:26] <paulej72> ????
[00:15:17] <paulej72> it is easier to go to the local brewpub and get a gallon to go
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[00:18:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Unh!
[00:19:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Wussup
[00:19:18] <swiss> hi
[00:19:39] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup swiss, how goes it?
[00:19:42] <paulej72> the sky
[00:19:51] <swiss> pretty good, just bought some more booze
[00:19:58] <swiss> didn't buy food though, got home, realized i'm hungrty
[00:20:00] <swiss> hungry
[00:20:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Pauley, what's up?
[00:20:41] <paulej72> too much work too little time
[00:21:05] <Ethanol-fueled> hear that, pauley. Both work and school.
[00:22:59] <paulej72> I am trying to get a couple of new experiments ready for our teaching lab. one is totally new the second I a complete rebuild of a old experiment
[00:23:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Care to elaborate, pauley? Are you a Computer Scientist or a physicist? Or both?
[00:24:09] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, my dorm-fridge is loaded with Safeway Select lasagnas.
[00:24:28] <SirFinkus> lasagnas are good
[00:24:37] <SirFinkus> wish I had some
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[00:25:03] <paulej72> chemical engineer turned computer jockey. the one experiment is a controls experiment to keep the levle of water in a tank constant by adjusting the speed of a pump
[00:25:12] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: gross
[00:26:23] <paulej72> the second experiment is heat transfer in a fluidized bed os glass beds. this one is getting new computer connected thermocouples
[00:28:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Damn, pauley, that's some hot shit.
[00:30:42] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss - they
[00:30:58] <Ethanol-fueled> they're big and cheap. when you're starving, they're fucking Chez Gourmet
[00:31:12] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: i like my trader joes dinners
[00:31:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Kidna heavy on the sodium, but not too bad wtih the fat if you're not on a diet.
[00:31:22] <Ethanol-fueled> damn, swiss, that's pretty upscale.
[00:31:55] <paulej72> all of the students have to do one controls experiment and our class sizes are getting larger so we are adding the new level control. our other controls experiments are temperature control of air going over a heater in a glass tube and mixing of a dye in a tank to,get a set concentration
[00:33:15] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: damn straight
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[00:37:58] <Ethanol-fueled> pauley, so you can make meth and MDMA?
[00:38:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Can you make some LSD?
[00:38:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Some LSD would be awesome.
[00:38:37] <swiss> LSD requires materials very hard to obtain in the US
[00:39:50] <Ethanol-fueled> (that feel when you just "borrowed digitally and permanently for free" the latest edition of a required text for an upcoming class)
[00:39:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Aww, yeah!
[00:44:32] <swiss> that feel when you don't have to pirate textbooks
[00:45:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, fuck school
[00:45:37] <swiss> yep
[00:45:58] <Ethanol-fueled> one more year or so of that bitch to go.
[00:46:53] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, check this out -- I found out my romantic interest has a neuromuscular degenerative disease.
[00:47:23] <swiss> stinks
[00:47:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck it. I'm gonna ride she-Hawking straight to the grave.
[00:48:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahah, that's fucked up.
[00:53:07] <swiss> yep, it is
[00:53:46] <Ethanol-fueled> I already told her I didn't give a fuck.
[00:55:08] <swiss> yet your reasoning seems to be based in your pants, rather than head or heart
[00:55:36] <Ethanol-fueled> That's not true.
[00:56:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I've been talking about others like I've been blowing rubbers through them like an F1 driver on the track. But not this one.
[00:56:03] <swiss> 16:47:37 < Ethanol-fueled> Fuck it. I'm gonna ride she-Hawking straight to the grave.
[00:57:32] <Ethanol-fueled> "ride" meaning I'm on board with it, not just in the sexual sense.
[00:58:50] <Ethanol-fueled> And, yes, that was dark humor.
[00:59:06] <Ethanol-fueled> I had to call the cops while my mom tried to kill herself. I've seen some shit.
[00:59:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fukushima Radiation Reaches West Coast - http://sylnt.us - glowing-with-nuclear-health
[00:59:56] <Ethanol-fueled> So who likes ponies?
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[01:02:16] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[01:02:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Yo, bro!
[01:03:39] <Ethanol-fueled> I think I made everybody depressed, BadCoderFinger.
[01:03:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Playin' that Mississippi Delta Blues.
[01:07:31] <BadCoderFinger> Well dang, guess we need different music.
[01:08:02] <swiss> i'm debating whether i want to try to buy more mixer type things for my alkies
[01:08:14] <swiss> i wish i had an on-demand supply of fresh lemons and limes
[01:08:29] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, I think they're known as "trees."
[01:08:33] <swiss> cause i don't want them often, but then I do want them at times
[01:08:40] <swiss> no, trees only give when they feel like it
[01:08:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah swiss, that juice ain't pure juice even though it comes in a lemon or lime-shaped vessel.
[01:09:06] <BadCoderFinger> That's true enough. You could freeze them, but that kinda sucks.
[01:09:36] <Ethanol-fueled> You could try the trick Anthony bourdain uses with stock and freeze the fresh-pressed juice into ice-cube trays.
[01:09:44] <Ethanol-fueled> then pop out how much you need as you need it.
[01:09:48] <swiss> the thing is i love things garnished with lemon and lime
[01:09:58] <Ethanol-fueled> so you gotta have the peels, then.
[01:10:34] <swiss> gotta have it all
[01:12:08] <Ethanol-fueled> that is one good thing about mixed drinks, though, they have the potential to provide vitamins and minerals through juice.
[01:12:32] <Ethanol-fueled> unlike shit like beer, which is just empty calories and, with the better ones, asking for manboobs (hop estrogen)
[01:12:39] <swiss> debating if i want to make a bloody mary and such
[01:12:58] <swiss> but i doubt i'd ever use celery salt again...
[01:13:30] <swiss> whatevs, i'll add it to my grocery list
[01:22:18] <SirFinkus> celery salt is pretty versatile, it's in a lot of shit
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[01:24:52] <Ethanol-fueled> You guys drink some fancy shit.
[01:25:35] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: it's called bein classy
[01:25:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, someday, someday.
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[01:33:43] <Konomi> http://codemonkey.org.uk
[01:33:44] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Some closure on a particularly nasty bug. | codemonkey.org.uk
[01:33:49] <Konomi> in case anyone is interested
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[01:34:56] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.networkworld.com
[01:34:56] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03‘What do I do if my Internet pipes freeze?’ | Network World
[01:49:07] <BadCoderFinger> Hrmph, internet antifreeze?
[01:49:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Needs more offensiveness.
[01:49:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Perhaps peeing on it. Peeing on anything frozen is awesome.
[01:55:24] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arstechnica.com why I never connect my network to anything :)
[01:55:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Got an Asus router? Someone on your network can probably hack it | Ars Technica
[02:00:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Future of Net Neutrality may be Looking Up - http://sylnt.us - i-fcc-what-you-did-there
[02:00:30] <BadCoderFinger> DD-WRT...
[02:01:28] <SpallsHurgenson> no, I still think just unplugging the router is a better idea. I wouldn't want to get any dirty bits clogged in my new router or anything
[02:02:22] <SpallsHurgenson> also, I find my computer runs better if I never turn it on
[02:03:15] <BadCoderFinger> Very secure as well.
[02:04:05] <BadCoderFinger> You just need irssi on your smart tv, then no computer at all!
[02:05:12] <SpallsHurgenson> what, and risk a dead pixel? all my tvs are unplugged!
[02:06:26] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I have the best gear ever! it's faster, better and cooler than anything you will ever use
[02:06:34] <SpallsHurgenson> or I'll ever use, but that's not the point :) :)
[02:08:08] <BadCoderFinger> I envy your technology graveyard...
[02:10:10] <Ethanol-fueled> BadCoderFinger -- I find it hard to believe how people could dick around with technology all day and then be pleased to come home to it.
[02:14:24] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.foxbusiness.com
[02:14:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03IT Workers of the World Unite! | Fox Business
[02:32:51] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, they've convinced me, I'm buying a new PC http://bigstory.ap.org
[02:32:53] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Don't sound the death knell for the PC just yet
[02:34:20] <SirFinkus> how's this for fancy, chicken gordon bleu is tonight's dinner
[02:34:53] <SpallsHurgenson> Gordon isn't intended as dinner!
[02:35:07] <SirFinkus> cordon, I'm stupid
[02:36:09] <SpallsHurgenson> Gordon appreciates that
[02:39:02] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of chicken, apparently AT&T is playing it with the FCC http://arstechnica.com
[02:39:03] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03AT&T defends unlimited data throttling, says the FTC can’t stop it | Ars Technica
[02:39:33] <BadCoderFinger> Sigh. AT&T, pioneers of "fiber to the press release."
[02:39:46] <SpallsHurgenson> "even though our voice service is regulated as type ii, our data isn't and there isn't anything you can do about it, neener neener neener!"
[02:39:56] <SpallsHurgenson> followed shortly, I hope, by "ooops" :)
[02:39:57] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, yeah.
[02:50:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm starting to get the feeling that employees at the telecoms hate their companies as much as we do and are purposefully sabotaging themselves
[02:53:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, like SONY!
[02:53:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahheeeheeheooooooo!
[02:56:53] <SpallsHurgenson> meanwhile, CES remains weird http://arstechnica.com
[02:56:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Gallery: The weird, wacky, and wonderful world of CES | Ars Technica
[02:58:29] <Ethanol-fueled> at&t is announcing rollover data
[02:58:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Welcome to Europe 10 years ago, America!
[03:03:04] <chromas> they had that before, when it was cingular
[03:06:15] <SirFinkus> whats the * though?
[03:07:35] <SpallsHurgenson> and finally: it's not a REAL computer until you can run Doom on it. https://www.youtube.com
[03:07:36] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Running Doom on the tiny Intel Edison computer - YouTube
[03:07:37] <SirFinkus> I'm sure there are several *s **s and such
[03:09:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Dat quake on an o-scope article was fucking rad
[03:10:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Makes me wanna build the setup and runnit on my TEK 2246
[03:10:41] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.barrytech.com
[03:10:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah!
[03:10:57] <Ethanol-fueled> "portable" my ass.
[03:11:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Got that bitch for free because the calibrator complained about its timebase, but said, "It'll do anything you need to, and accurately, for personal use"
[03:11:53] <Ethanol-fueled> (getting free shit from work)++
[03:11:53] <Bender> karma - (getting free shit from work): 1
[03:15:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Jacked a phat 2-port graphics card from the E-waste bin from work as well.
[03:17:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm not sure I support a USB plug that I don't have to try at least three times before it fits http://arstechnica.com
[03:17:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03USB 3.1 and Type-C: The only stuff at CES that everyone is going to use | Ars Technica
[03:20:31] <SirFinkus> did qualcomm do their keynote yet?
[03:22:05] <SirFinkus> fuck, that what the greatest thing ever
[03:26:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, why does that matter?
[03:26:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Qualcomm are a local fixture, for H1-B worming away of American jobs that is.
[03:27:11] <SirFinkus> they had the greatest ces keynote in 2013
[03:27:12] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[03:27:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The most insane keynote ever: Qualcomm at CES 2013 - YouTube
[03:27:27] <SirFinkus> those are the highlights
[03:28:11] <SpallsHurgenson> 2013? That's so long ago! I'm not sure I was even alive back then
[03:28:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, that's gross.
[03:28:53] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[03:28:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Cult of personality
[03:29:28] <Ethanol-fueled> I dated a girl who worked for Qualcommm. Cut that bitch off after 10 minutes of one-sided conversation.
[03:29:59] <SirFinkus> I'd encourage anyone to watch the whole thing if they haven't already
[03:30:00] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[03:30:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Qualcomm's CES 2013 Keynote - YouTube
[03:30:22] <Ethanol-fueled> ERRRRGH.....I hate Qualcomm even more after watching that video.
[03:30:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, can you convince them to move their operation to Seattle?
[03:31:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Please, please, that would really be nice.
[03:31:11] <SirFinkus> it's every bad press event trope
[03:31:26] <SirFinkus> unlikely
[03:33:35] <SirFinkus> and we don't want them either
[03:34:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, can we get them to move to Austin?
[03:34:51] <Ethanol-fueled> that's where the "" SCENE "" is "" HAPPENING ""
[03:35:16] <SirFinkus> it's possible
[03:36:04] <Ethanol-fueled> San Diego needs to offload its tech scene^W^W misery onto Austin.
[03:36:31] <SirFinkus> I've gotten sucked into the keynote again
[03:36:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Austin Texas, because there's growth and no taxes there! *cocks eyebrow*
[03:37:04] <Ethanol-fueled> right? Rrrroooight?!!
[03:37:58] <Ethanol-fueled> So, ahem, move to Texas! You can buy a mansion for 50K around Austin! You can have rights, guns, turnarounds!
[03:38:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Cattle!
[03:38:25] <SirFinkus> I think I heard some bullshit about tech companies moving to detroit, which almost sounds absurd enough for it to be true
[03:39:02] <Ethanol-fueled> True, Finkus
[03:39:14] <SpallsHurgenson> Omni Consumer Products is betting big on Detroit, I hear
[03:39:20] <BadCoderFinger> That's just bizarre. What's the selling point, have your tech next door to GM?
[03:39:24] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHHEHEHHHEHEOOOOOO @ OCP
[03:40:27] <SpallsHurgenson> on a related note: https://www.youtube.com
[03:40:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Omnicorp 2027 CES Keynote Presentation - YouTube
[03:43:17] <SpallsHurgenson> BCF: I think the idea is that you have low taxes, cheap property and desperate-to-work employees :)
[03:44:24] <SpallsHurgenson> all the advantages of outsourcing to a third world country without actually having to relocate :)
[03:44:39] <SpallsHurgenson> 'course, it is BYOI (bring your own infrastructure)
[03:45:39] <BadCoderFinger> You know, you could be on to something.
[03:45:54] <SpallsHurgenson> it's accidental, I swear!
[03:46:45] <BadCoderFinger> I wonder if in the next few years corporations will be able to legally bypass minimum wage and call it, "economic recovery in-country outsourcing."
[03:47:14] <BadCoderFinger> Wal-mart already sort of practices this.
[03:51:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I've never been in a walmart
[03:52:24] <SpallsHurgenson> therefore I relegate the entire chain to being just a horrific myth CEOs use to control their employees :)
[03:54:18] <BadCoderFinger> I had a friend who worked there. It is a tale of woe.
[03:54:51] <SpallsHurgenson> see, it's always a friend or a friend of a friend. it's like a campfire ghost story :) :)
[03:57:00] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, c'mon; a chain that controls 30% of US retail and who is owned by a family that is richer than the all the bottom 40% of income earners combined? tell me another one, mate! :) :)
[03:58:20] <Ethanol-fueled> What I've seen is that local governments will outsource to temp agencies
[03:58:54] <Ethanol-fueled> in essence, in a dystopic American future, consisting entirely of contract employees with no rights or recource.
[03:59:09] <Ethanol-fueled> This has manifested itself as the "permatemp" for awhile.
[04:01:31] <Ethanol-fueled> The problem is that nobody stands up, nobody fights.
[04:01:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ford Recalls SUVs ... to Fix the UI - http://sylnt.us - it's-a-hardware-issue
[04:02:02] <Ethanol-fueled> You all shy away from being aggressive, from thinking spite can be a valuable motivator.
[04:02:24] <Konomi> damn we got the brake and accelerator lcds around the wrong way again oh well
[04:02:25] <SpallsHurgenson> ah Ford, we love you :)
[04:02:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Ford's been the brand of choice for homos for a long time now.
[04:03:09] <Ethanol-fueled> The Ranger Edge and the Raptor have been their only saving graces.
[04:03:14] <Konomi> what makes fords more attractable to "homos" exactly?
[04:03:27] <Ethanol-fueled> konomi, their curviness and ease of use.
[04:03:39] <Konomi> that sounds like something anyone would like
[04:03:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Simplicity compared to other American brands.
[04:04:32] <SpallsHurgenson> am I the only one who likes cars that have proper keys to open the doors and start the engine? and get off my lawn!
[04:04:54] <SirFinkus> I dunno, I haven't had any trouble with my sensible ford focus
[04:05:10] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe its because I'm not part of generation-mobile :(
[04:05:26] <SirFinkus> it's "Born mobile" SpallsHurgenson
[04:05:32] <SirFinkus> or generaion m
[04:05:51] <SirFinkus> you square
[04:05:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I've owned Fords and have liked them. I had a Pony, Aspire, and F-150. Simple and reliable. But in the American mindset, too "girly
[04:05:53] <Ethanol-fueled> \
[04:05:55] <SpallsHurgenson> its get off my lawn, whippersnappers! :)
[04:06:27] <SirFinkus> I haven't really seen that perception
[04:07:16] <Ethanol-fueled> http://image.motortrend.com
[04:07:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Probably because Ford caught on.
[04:09:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Its those fuckers Dodge that ruined AMerican automotive ergonomics.
[04:09:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Or quite possibly that shortly thereafter homosexuals dominated the design of domestic vehicles.
[04:10:08] <Ethanol-fueled> "Aerodymanics," they called it.
[04:10:22] <Ethanol-fueled> With erry curvature of the dashboard.
[04:10:32] <Ethanol-fueled> BAH! Nonsense.
[04:13:55] * Ethanol-fueled steps out to procure another siz-pack of IPA
[04:30:23] * SpallsHurgenson decides it is safe to ignore the emails waiting in his inbox for another day
[04:32:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chickens ‘Closer to Dinosaurs’ than Other Birds - http://sylnt.us - dinosaur-BBQ
[04:32:13] <BadCoderFinger> Email? Ancient tech! Procrastination is all the response those luddites deserve!
[04:34:15] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, emails rocks. I mean, you'll never get me to use any of those instant messaging services, nosireebob!
[04:40:20] <BadCoderFinger> Nothing like internet relay chat, that sort of thing?
[04:40:45] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[04:40:50] <SpallsHurgenson> I've said it before and I'll say it again: stop using logic and facts around me!
[04:41:53] <BadCoderFinger> In that case, my argument machine is out of everything except hyperbole and straw-men.
[04:42:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Women are stupid.
[04:42:20] <Ethanol-fueled> That's my argument.
[04:42:23] <SpallsHurgenson> aww, c'mon, you gotta have at least one ad hominem!
[04:42:48] <Ethanol-fueled> You think that you held out for so long, that one would be at least bearable, and then they go full-retard.
[04:42:51] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I'll search the empty ammo cans...
[04:43:32] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe some sort of propositional fallacy? c'mon, you gotta have somethin'!
[04:43:32] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm not talkin' the "full retard" you get when you're too drunk, or do something fleeting and impulsive....that can be excused for everybody, male, female, whatever.
[04:44:05] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm talkin' the "full retard" when you're dead sober and think that Scientology is a good idea. :(
[04:45:05] <SpallsHurgenson> meanwhile, I think that just concluded my new year's experiment. time to return to sanity.
[04:45:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Not me, but others.
[04:47:20] <BadCoderFinger> I may have some invalid sorites...
[04:47:20] * SpallsHurgenson assumes it is working
[04:47:46] <BadCoderFinger> And what, pray tell, is your experiment, Dr. Livingstone?
[04:48:09] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, it was all about second chances (and the failure thereof :)
[04:49:02] * SpallsHurgenson wikis sorites
[04:51:58] * SpallsHurgenson gets drawn into a long article about logic... I've been tricked!
[04:53:10] * JamesNZ pushes SpallsHurgenson further down the rabbit hole
[04:53:29] <SpallsHurgenson> JamesNZ: this is revenge for that coffee thing, isn't it?
[04:53:52] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: No comment ;)
[04:54:33] <BadCoderFinger> SpallsHurgenson: Now you know, heh.
[04:55:48] <SpallsHurgenson> I deny everything! I learned nothing, NOTHINK!
[04:56:04] <BadCoderFinger> And who can blame you? Heh.
[05:02:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Curiosity Rover Finds Remnants of Microbial Activity on Mars - http://sylnt.us - studying-suspicious-sedimentary-structures
[05:03:01] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[05:03:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Salton Sea methamphetamine trip - YouTube
[05:04:44] <Konomi> http://giftedkids.about.com
[05:04:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Introverts - Social Needs and Preferences
[05:04:47] <Konomi> this was a nice read
[05:05:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Gifted kids?
[05:05:44] <Ethanol-fueled> The best give you could give to a so-called "gifted kid" is a paid blowjob and a rail of coke.
[05:05:57] <Ethanol-fueled> I was in GATE. I was special.
[05:06:22] <Konomi> classy as ever
[05:06:52] <JamesNZ> ~define GATE
[05:07:06] <Ethanol-fueled> The best gift you could give to a so-called "gifted kid" is to get 'em liquored up and stoned in a place where prosties are legal./
[05:07:33] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.cde.ca.gov
[05:07:33] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Contact Us - Department Information (CA Dept of Education)
[05:07:50] <Ethanol-fueled> THAT ^ motherfuckers...back inthe late '80s and early '90s
[05:08:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Or more specifically:
[05:09:00] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.sandi.net
[05:09:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Gifted and Talented Education (GATE) / Overview
[05:09:56] <Ethanol-fueled> You get one day a week to explore concepts and things that plebes don't have access to.
[05:10:09] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[05:10:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Later, you are funnelled into entire classes.
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[05:10:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Entire groups of classes, at the junior-high and high-school level.
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[05:21:25] <BadCoderFinger> Night guys!
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[05:22:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Biting nipples.
[05:25:32] <SpallsHurgenson> new experiment: sleep
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[06:15:18] <crutchy> http://www.wsj.com
[06:15:19] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03China Can’t Inflate Away Its Problems - Heard on the Street - WSJ
[06:16:16] <crutchy> hehe. america warning china about inflation. that's fucking hilarious
[06:18:14] <crutchy> ++coffee
[06:18:14] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 211
[06:20:00] * JamesNZ laughs nervously
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[09:42:38] <prospectacle> a good evening, soylents
[09:44:28] * Konomi waves
[09:44:55] <crutchy> http://imgur.com
[09:44:55] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Every time. - Imgur
[09:45:37] <crutchy> i am so an introvert
[09:49:07] <Konomi> \o/
[09:49:15] <Konomi> ha
[09:49:25] <Konomi> fortuantly I never get tired of my SO ;p
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[10:00:23] <crutchy> Konomi, i don't wanna hear about your sex life :p
[10:00:51] <Konomi> psh
[10:00:55] <Konomi> I didn't just mean that!
[10:13:01] <crutchy> http://i.imgur.com
[10:18:36] <prospectacle> lol, good story
[10:21:06] <crutchy> k. i'm over this rain now. and i'm over having to use desklamps and my phone cos the lights on the roof don't work :/
[10:26:06] <prospectacle> a collection of six word stories: http://imgur.com
[10:26:06] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Six Word Stories - Part One - Imgur
[10:26:23] <prospectacle> what's wrong with ur roof lights?
[10:29:23] <crutchy> they're knackered by the storm
[10:29:55] <prospectacle> I'm glad of the rain, it's been hot here but when it's raining it's nice and cool
[10:30:20] <crutchy> cool is nice
[10:30:49] <crutchy> my air conditioner is knackered too, so i'm hoping it stays cool at least till the insurance people pull their fingers out
[10:52:07] <prospectacle> insurance people are the worst. their business model is not paying you a fair amount when things go wrong.
[10:52:47] <prospectacle> I guess sometimes you gotta have it. My philosophy is anything < 10k, don't get insurance, pay your premiums into your own savings account
[10:53:10] <crutchy> home loans generally require it
[10:53:11] <prospectacle> well in theory. I couldn't afford to replace all my stuff in practice.
[10:53:25] <crutchy> and its more for peace of mind for the big things like fire
[10:53:39] <crutchy> but yeah i hate insurance companies
[10:54:30] <crutchy> i got kids too, and kids are a safety risk :p
[10:55:44] <crutchy> i'm working on a free pascal program. i feel like a noob all over again cos i haven't touched delphi/pascal for a few months
[10:56:21] <crutchy> 'how do i parse a file into lines?'.... 'oh yeah there's a TStringList class for that'
[10:56:29] <prospectacle> pascal! cool
[10:56:47] <crutchy> i been doing all procedural stuff in php... no classes
[10:56:51] <prospectacle> i can help I use borland c++ which has same library as delphi: e.g. tstringlist, etc
[10:57:08] <crutchy> i've used it all before. just gotta remember it :p
[10:57:10] <prospectacle> what does your program doing?
[10:57:38] <crutchy> just searching loggie logs at this stage
[10:57:54] <crutchy> php will still do the downloading, html parsing and saving to file
[10:58:04] <prospectacle> oh cool. To have a pc interface instead of a web-interface is that ur plan?
[10:58:27] <prospectacle> for better searching, sorting, data-grids etc?
[10:58:39] <crutchy> nah. the pascal program will just be a little console app that exec can call to make quicker searches
[10:58:45] <crutchy> yeah pretty much
[10:59:18] <crutchy> cos the script i have atm is bog slow
[10:59:23] <crutchy> ~last xlefay
[10:59:36] <crutchy> ...
[10:59:49] <crutchy> please wait... :P
[10:59:58] * crutchy cranks handle
[11:00:27] * juggs adds moar coal
[11:00:33] <prospectacle> I see. What's your php search string? It may be you can optimise it without switching languages
[11:00:34] <crutchy> though to be fair a lot of this time is downloading logs that haven't been cached locally yet
[11:00:45] <prospectacle> one option of course is to keep it in a database, that would speed up searching no end.
[11:00:58] <prospectacle> even sqlite would be super fast compared to just text files.
[11:01:02] <exec> last privmsg for xlefay in #soylent: [2014-09-02 08:16:21] I need to eat some and get some sleep. I'll tty'all later ;-) Take care!
[11:01:05] <prospectacle> if you don't want to run a mysql server
[11:01:09] <crutchy> there we go :D
[11:01:27] <crutchy> yeah mysql is a bit overkill for my little bot
[11:01:32] <prospectacle> i hope xlefay is ok
[11:01:36] <crutchy> also its fun to come up with ways to avoid it
[11:01:46] <crutchy> yeah i dunno what's going on with him
[11:01:54] <prospectacle> well sqlite is pretty great. I use it all the time, very fast, no server required, simple to use, built in support in php
[11:02:14] <prospectacle> if it's a single-user app, sqlite is great for all kinds of data storage and retrieval
[11:02:15] <crutchy> i should try that
[11:02:40] <crutchy> i have a shared memory system called 'buckets' atm, which sorta works pretty well
[11:02:57] <crutchy> but its not great for mass storage of things like logs
[11:03:21] <prospectacle> well you don't need to replace everything you'ev already got, but if there's a specific operation which is slow you could try sqlite for optimisation purposes
[11:04:28] <prospectacle> select * from logs where user = xlefay order by date desc limit 1
[11:04:31] <prospectacle> etc
[11:04:33] <juggs> crutchy, how are you doing the ~last function? Searching the logs for the last entry at the time of the request?
[11:04:52] <crutchy> yup
[11:05:13] <crutchy> should run a bit quicker now cos its cached up to yesterday
[11:05:18] <crutchy> ~last juggs
[11:05:30] <crutchy> still bog slow though
[11:05:47] <exec> last privmsg for juggs in #soylent: [2015-01-09 11:04:33] crutchy, how are you doing the ~last function? Searching the logs for the last entry at the time of the request?
[11:06:32] <juggs> Thought about doing something scheduled that parses the logs every N minutes and keeps a ~last record for all nicks? Might still need the log parse function for exec to catch up it it's been offline for a while.
[11:06:37] <prospectacle> how is it cached? do you have a file called "last_for_user" which has a list of users and the last message from each one?
[11:06:38] <ciri> you talking to me?
[11:06:49] <prospectacle> ciri--
[11:06:49] <Bender> karma - ciri: -36
[11:06:52] <prospectacle> lol
[11:07:39] <crutchy> there's 310 log files for #soylent, stored in ready-parsed serialized format, but that still makes for a lot of data to read. those 310 files are 66.7 Mb
[11:07:40] <prospectacle> i mean the messages in this room don't flood in so fast. You could take each and every new message and, as well as adding it to your regular log, add it to the "last_messages" file, replacing the entry (if any) for that user.
[11:08:00] <prospectacle> crutchy. You def. need a database, in my opinion.
[11:08:06] <prospectacle> you'll be so happy you have one, once you have one.
[11:09:01] <prospectacle> Serialised data is good for small amounts, or arbitrary structures. However, if it's large amounts of uniformly structured data, then a database was invented for this purpose and has been refined over decades to be fast as shit.
[11:09:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:09:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 961
[11:09:51] <crutchy> i'll prolly wind up going that way, but for my little pascal experiment i'm gunna reformat the files to simple delimited records
[11:10:19] <prospectacle> fair enough, learning is always fun
[11:10:20] <crutchy> stuff trying to parse php serialized shit with pascal
[11:10:38] <crutchy> true :D
[11:11:11] <crutchy> i'll finish the pascal program, realise that its almost as bog slow and then finally do a mysql schema
[11:12:27] <prospectacle> you don't need mysql if you don't want. Sqlite is faster and easier for single-user apps.
[11:12:44] <prospectacle> anyway, sounds like a fun project.
[11:12:45] <crutchy> i'm used to mysql. pdo is pretty cool
[11:12:48] <juggs> ~g'day TheMightyBuzzard
[11:12:49] * exec abnormally poops a spoon of spew for TheMightyBuzzard
[11:12:57] <crutchy> yummy
[11:13:27] <prospectacle> sqlite works with pdo too. That's the point of pdo. but either way would work, of course.
[11:13:48] <crutchy> ah awesome yeah i guess it would
[11:13:49] <prospectacle> crutchy, u still working on that game you were making?
[11:14:01] <prospectacle> i can't remember what it was called, you had some maps up online
[11:14:04] <crutchy> yeah. gradually
[11:14:09] <crutchy> IRCiv
[11:14:13] <crutchy> ~civ
[11:14:13] <exec> http://sylnt.us
[11:14:26] <prospectacle> cool
[11:15:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> how goes things oh fearless leader
[11:15:03] <ciri> don't ask me!
[11:15:21] <crutchy> derp. my server is shut down
[11:15:51] <juggs> Not sure really - been distracted the last couple of days
[11:15:54] <crutchy> stuff it. ima not getting off the couch :p
[11:16:17] <juggs> Need Magic Packet setup crutchy
[11:16:28] <juggs> Most BIOS support it these days
[11:16:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> pj was around yesterday so looks like he's prolly feeling well enough to roll out the update this weekend.
[11:16:45] <crutchy> i have Salt N Vinegar Packet setup
[11:17:10] <juggs> Yup, I saw him mention something about cloning flourine
[11:17:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> missed that
[11:17:30] <crutchy> ooh he's getting into atomic biology?
[11:18:02] <juggs> lol internal names for servers crutvchy
[11:18:02] <ciri> lol damn!
[11:18:06] <juggs> indeed ciri
[11:19:03] <crutchy> i made a flow chart in microsoft word today
[11:19:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, fluorine's our secondary web frontend. hydrogen the primary has been down for a while.
[11:19:39] <crutchy> maybe flourine stole hydrogen's electron
[11:20:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> could be. we never did figure it out.
[11:20:33] <juggs> TMB, he was saying he'd need to take fluorine down to clone it though. Leaves us with no web front ends for the duration I think :-/
[11:20:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[11:20:45] <crutchy> maybe cull it. no point paying for a server that's offline
[11:21:15] <juggs> Resilience crutchy - well that's the idea anyway
[11:21:30] <crutchy> yeah gotta shut down vm's to clone them
[11:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we're due some downtime for maintenance if we really need it.
[11:21:58] <crutchy> my little backup cron tab seems to be running well at work
[11:22:23] <crutchy> shuts down 3 vms, rsyncs them to a backup server and then restarts them
[11:22:39] <crutchy> emails the output
[11:23:06] <crutchy> virtualbox++
[11:23:07] <Bender> karma - virtualbox: 2
[11:23:10] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, yup - as long as we can stick up a "Away for maint" static page somewhere, that'd be fine.
[11:23:38] <crutchy> prolly just need to tweak the dns thingy to point somewhere else for the duration
[11:23:54] <crutchy> redirect to goatse
[11:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> plenty of other boxes running various webservers. just point the load balancer to one with an appropriate page.
[11:24:55] <crutchy> make a page with a funny imgur gif
[11:25:19] <crutchy> ooh. or fill the entire page with a massive broken glass image
[11:25:33] <juggs> TMB, forgot about the load balancer - that makes things easier than messing with dns entries
[11:25:39] <crutchy> was it blizzard that did that?
[11:26:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. almost too easy. we should complicate it some.
[11:26:03] <crutchy> http://us.blizzard.com
[11:26:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Blizzard Entertainment - Error!
[11:26:14] <juggs> Nah, things be complicated enough behind that :P
[11:28:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, now i'm glad we built a separate daemon for receiving payment notifications. it won't go down when the site does.
[11:28:30] <juggs> most sagely sir
[11:28:47] <crutchy> is it running on the NSA's black box?
[11:29:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, their blue box.
[11:29:20] <crutchy> ah. not considered as important apparently
[11:29:23] <juggs> do NASA's boxes have landing strips?
[11:29:54] <crutchy> they don't dock nowadays as much as they used to
[11:30:11] <crutchy> probe activity has decreased
[11:30:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, boxes with landing strips? it's too early for pr0n
[11:31:18] <crutchy> i don't know what you mean tmb. we were merely having a scientifical discussions
[11:31:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's fine then
[11:31:57] <crutchy> :p
[11:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the up side, not doing the upgrade till this weekend means i get to spend today playing video games
[11:32:37] <crutchy> i started playing sim tower after dinner. it put me to sleep :/
[11:33:11] <crutchy> don't get into games much lately
[11:33:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to finish up Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning today i think
[11:34:26] <crutchy> maybe i'll have a go at something like bf1942 or ut2004
[11:34:36] <crutchy> or gta: vice city
[11:34:45] <crutchy> might be a bit more engaging
[11:35:00] <crutchy> shooting shit up :)
[11:36:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm too old for those. my reflexes ain't what they used to be.
[11:38:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yall heard the latest brilliance to come out of the obama administration? they're proposing making two years of community college free if you're willing to work for it.
[11:38:56] <juggs> strange definition of free
[11:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> saw that and i was like, um....
[11:39:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, it's already free if you're willing to work for it.
[11:39:53] <juggs> I'm sure I don't need to ask your opinion on state funded education :D
[11:40:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends. i think it could use some massive reform but it's one area that the government has a legitimate interest in spending up my moneys.
[11:41:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean a hundred years ago we taught greek and latin in highschool. now we teach remedial english in college.
[11:44:47] <juggs> mmm - something clearly amiss there
[11:45:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> the no child left behind mentality. we need to start leaving the truly stupid ones behind cause they're dragging the rest of us down.
[11:46:08] <juggs> I quite like Germany's model for further education with two streams one for academic studthe other for tech/trade study.
[11:46:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, that'd definitely get my vote.
[11:46:25] <juggs> s/studthe/study the/
[11:46:25] <SedNotABot> <juggs> I quite like Germany's model for further education with two streams one for academic study the other for tech/trade study.
[11:47:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> world still needs mechanics, plumbers, brick-layers, etc...
[11:47:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> none of which require even a highschool diploma.
[11:48:21] <juggs> indeed - also good to have a trade under the belt to fall back on for when the wheels fall off
[11:48:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn skippy. s'part of why i have like ten or so of them.
[11:50:27] <juggs> blech - gandi cert expires in a little over a month :(
[11:50:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> never was one to put all of my eggs in one basket. plus i get bored after i learn most everything about a trade.
[11:50:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> gah
[11:52:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, at least we have dollars left over
[11:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> on the up side, that'd make it really good timing to go ahead n get a wildcard cert.
[11:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i'll go finish that game up now. yall keep the faith.
[11:56:25] <juggs> yehhh.... the wildcard cert would be a good thing...
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[12:38:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Cyberattack Has Caused Confirmed Physical Damage for the Second Time Ever. - http://sylnt.us - E-damage
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[12:41:53] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:41:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 962
[12:41:57] <Bytram> !uid
[12:41:57] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4980, owned by korci_valdez
[12:42:16] <juggs> hola Bytram o/ How's it going?
[12:42:41] <Bytram> becoming semi-human again after long and crazy holiday work schedule.
[12:42:44] <Bytram> and you?
[12:43:13] <Bytram> btw, I noticed there is a story in the queue that looks like a dupe...
[12:43:24] <Bytram> have ticked it as non-display while I confirm
[12:43:36] <juggs> finally getting into the swing of january
[12:43:48] <Bytram> "A Cyberattack Has Caused Confirmed Physical Damage" -- http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: var pageload = { pagemark: '19586395724346885', before_content: (new Date).getTime() }; function pageload_done( $, console, maybe ){ pageload.after_readycode = (new Date).getTime(); pageload.content_ready_time = pageload.content_ready - pageload.before_content; pageload.script_ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.content_ready; pageload.ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.before_content; // Only report 1% of cases. m
[12:44:18] <Bytram> now that looks /interesting/
[12:44:38] <juggs> hmm - is it really 8 hours since we published something?
[12:45:10] <Bytram> yeah, same here. cold today, too, but at least warmer than yesterday. Woke up to -9 degrees F. (brrrrr!)
[12:45:32] <Bytram> whoah! I didn't notice THAT, but sure looks like it!
[12:45:39] <Bytram> I'll move the next story up. brb
[12:47:04] <juggs> I presume the zork and klark subs are spam :D
[12:47:11] <Bytram> ok, I pushed up the Heinlein story; should appear shortly.
[12:47:31] <juggs> Thanks
[12:47:43] <Bytram> np
[12:47:46] <Bytram> !weather
[12:47:57] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[12:47:58] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA, USA - currently 27°F / -3°C, overcast, wind S at 8 mph, humidity 72% - Friday snow showers (16°F-34°F / -9°C-1°C), Saturday clear (14°F-23°F / -10°C--5°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (27°F-32°F / -3°C-0°C), Monday chance of snow (25°F-37°F / -4°C-3°C) - source: Google
[12:48:00] <juggs> ~weather
[12:48:01] <exec> Weather for London, UK - currently 56°F / 13°C, partly cloudy, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 71% - Friday chance of rain (53°F-57°F / 12°C-14°C), Saturday partly cloudy (38°F-56°F / 3°C-13°C), Sunday clear (44°F-48°F / 7°C-9°C), Monday chance of rain (44°F-53°F / 7°C-12°C) - source: Google
[12:48:12] <juggs> toasty for early Jan here :D
[12:48:24] * Bytram likes your forecast better
[12:48:37] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:48:46] <juggs> Got to love not having to run the heating in early Jan that's for sure
[12:50:26] <Bytram> yuppers on that one! I have a flat with heat included, but it couldn't entirely keep up with cold outside. Sure glad I was *inside* on a day like *tht*!
[12:50:33] <Bytram> s/tht/that/
[12:50:33] <SedNotABot> <Bytram> yuppers on that one! I have a flat with heat included, but it couldn't entirely keep up with cold outside. Sure glad I was *inside* on a day like *that*!
[12:54:22] <juggs> Until it gets <5C here, my place seems to keep itself warm enough just on background electronics warming :D
[12:54:53] <Bytram> nice!
[12:54:59] <Bytram> Could use some help...
[12:55:06] <juggs> sup?
[12:55:21] <Bytram> I'm almost certain that we already ran the German steel mill hacking story, but can't find it....
[12:55:27] <Bytram> how's your search skills today?
[12:56:21] <juggs> sounds familiar - lemme take a look
[12:57:05] <Bytram> thanks!
[12:57:57] <Bytram> Hey! I think i found it: http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: Computer Intrusion Inflicts Massive Damage on German Steel Factory 04(29 comments)
[12:59:12] <Bytram> juggs: ^^^
[12:59:15] <juggs> yup
[12:59:58] <Bytram> I'm a little out of practice, it seems, there's this part of the story editing page which lists potentially related stories... and there it was! Doh!!
[13:01:35] <juggs> Makes life easier :)
[13:03:07] <Bytram> what, the related links? Or practice? =)
[13:06:19] <juggs> Both I suppose!
[13:06:28] <Bytram> lol!
[13:08:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wind Trees Scavenge Small Winds for Lighting - http://sylnt.us - blowing-in-the-wind || Heinlein's ‘All You Zombies’ Now a Sci-Fi Movie Head Trip - http://sylnt.us - all-tomorrow's-zombies
[13:12:47] <juggs> ^^ What's up with that RSS feed entry? o.O
[13:13:01] <Bytram> beats me.
[13:14:30] <Bytram> hmmm, looks like Regurgitator is on hiatus and has been replaced by Bender?
[13:14:41] <Bytram> see the entries in: #rss-bot
[13:15:07] <juggs> yup, I retired Regurgitator from RSS duty and setup Bender to do it
[13:15:31] <Bytram> or in: http://logs.sylnt.us
[13:15:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03#rss-bot | Logs for 2015-01-09
[13:15:48] <Bytram> hmmm, so did you update bender to handle that task?
[13:16:47] <juggs> Bender already had the functionality, just needed configuring for the #rss-bot feeds. Regurgitator was choking on https feeds and I couldn't figure out why, so he got stood down :D
[13:17:06] <Bytram> ahhhh... got it!
[13:17:51] <Bytram> hmmmm, I've had an idea for quite a while on how to leverage the rss-bot feed
[13:18:39] <Bytram> would be nice if I could take a snapshot of a day (or two's) feed, and filter in/out certain key words to find all related stories on a particular topic
[13:19:05] <Bytram> drop the feed into a table with five columns:
[13:19:10] <Bytram> 1.) date/time stamp
[13:19:33] <Bytram> 2.) nick (Bender/Reguritator/etc.)
[13:20:04] <Bytram> 3.) Source's short name [PhysOrg] or [TheRegister] etc.
[13:20:13] <Bytram> 4.) Story Title
[13:20:17] <Bytram> 5.) Story Link
[13:21:02] <Bytram> the idea being I could, say, show only those stories which have a certain keyword in them so as to get a variety of sources on a recent topic
[13:22:15] <Bytram> For example, show only stories that mention "North Korea" in their title
[13:22:36] <juggs> interesting idea
[13:23:37] <Bytram> I explored something along these lines quite a while ago and someone here gave me some javascript which did some of that but I never really got it working right.
[13:23:40] <juggs> sounds easy enough to do - probably need some kind of db backend, but I think Bender already has one of those
[13:23:59] * Bytram really?
[13:25:10] <juggs> think so
[13:25:22] <Bytram> I was thinking along the lines of a web page which did some ajax to retrieve the previous and current day's logs; then parse it into those 5 parts, and then slice/dice/reset to my heart's content
[13:26:13] * Bytram goes to see if he can find the pattern matching/selecting javascript code. brb
[13:28:44] * Bytram found a log file pointing at it coming from nick: stderr
[13:29:08] <juggs> seems we have mysql and postgres running on the irc server - not sure they are Bender related though
[13:29:35] <Bytram> hmmm, what other services are running there?
[13:32:21] <juggs> ircd, irc-services, irc-webchat, Bender, Regurgitator, logbot, nginx and a few other odds n sods - all irc related stuff basically
[13:33:06] <Bytram> ok. Obviously, we don't want to impact anything that already makes use of one of those DBs
[13:33:20] <juggs> newp - I'll look into it when I get time
[13:33:29] <Bytram> I think I found the e-mails I was looking for...
[13:35:15] <juggs> good?
[13:35:54] <Bytram> javascript is something I can hack at, but it isn't my best language.
[13:36:10] <juggs> mine either
[13:36:14] <Bytram> do you have an email addy at soylentnews.org? I'll forward it to you?
[13:36:52] <juggs> juggs@
[13:36:53] <Bytram> from what I can tell, it's pretty well compartmentalized, but just a tad beyond my skill (at that time) to fully grok and be4nd to my will.
[13:36:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:39:17] <Bytram> juggs: on its way; you should get it soon.
[13:39:55] <juggs> ok thanks - will take a look a little later on - for now I must away and take care of some chores :(
[13:40:09] <Bytram> much obliged!
[13:40:17] * Bytram should attend to some chores, as well.
[13:40:24] <Bytram> afk
[13:40:28] <juggs> laters
[13:40:32] <Bytram> nice chatting with ya!
[13:40:38] <juggs> likewise
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[13:44:27] <crutchy> chromas, http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:27] <Hedonismbot> * 03SN article: var pageload = { pagemark: '19586395724346885', before_content: (new Date).getTime() }; function pageload_done( $, console, maybe ){ pageload.after_readycode = (new Date).getTime(); pageload.content_ready_time = pageload.content_ready - pageload.before_content; pageload.script_ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.content_ready; pageload.ready_time = pageload.after_readycode - pageload.before_content; // Only report 1% of cases. m
[13:44:36] <Konomi> then it exploded
[13:44:56] <crutchy> Konomi, s/ex/bay/
[13:44:56] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> <Konomi> then it bayploded
[13:45:04] <crutchy> Konomi, s/ex/bays/
[13:45:04] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> <Konomi> then it baysploded
[13:45:23] <Konomi> bayploded is when it implodes rather than explodes
[13:45:25] <Konomi> ;p
[13:45:48] <crutchy> its when my bwain implodes
[13:46:33] <crutchy> right up until 4.30 this afternoon when i finished work, i thought it was thursday today
[13:47:42] <crutchy> and why the hell am i still up at 1am?
[13:48:22] <crutchy> hmm
[13:48:38] <crutchy> $tell chromas, http://soylentnews.org
[13:48:38] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[13:48:57] <crutchy> erm
[13:49:20] <crutchy> $tell chromas, http://soylentnews.org check Hedonismbot title output
[13:49:20] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[13:49:41] <crutchy> $tell chromas i'm a pooper scooper
[13:49:41] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[13:50:22] <crutchy> $tell chromas $burrito aqu4
[13:50:22] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[14:12:52] <crutchy> ++coffee
[14:12:52] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 212
[15:40:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Hard Drive Breakthrough - http://sylnt.us - wave-function
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[18:12:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nvidia Demos a Car Computer Trained with "Deep Learning" - http://sylnt.us - deep-driving
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[19:42:22] <Bytram> coffee++
[19:42:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 963
[19:42:29] <Bytram> ++coffee
[19:42:29] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 213
[19:43:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DHS Watchdog Says Border Patrol's Drones Are Expensive, Useless. - http://sylnt.us - but,-but,-they're-sexy
[19:46:25] <chromas> if only they had guns
[19:46:34] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[19:46:35] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA, USA - currently 29°F / -2°C, scattered clouds, wind S at 11 mph, humidity 55% - Friday snow showers (16°F-34°F / -9°C-1°C), Saturday clear (14°F-23°F / -10°C--5°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (28°F-32°F / -2°C-0°C), Monday chance of snow (25°F-37°F / -4°C-3°C) - source: Google
[19:49:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[19:49:12] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK, USA - currently 32°F / 0°C, clear, wind N at 15 mph, humidity 41% - Friday clear (19°F-34°F / -7°C-1°C), Saturday partly cloudy (28°F-36°F / -2°C-2°C), Sunday chance of ice (37°F-41°F / 3°C-5°C), Monday mostly cloudy (30°F-39°F / -1°C-4°C) - source: Google
[19:50:11] <juggs> ~weather
[19:50:13] <exec> Weather for London, UK - currently 60°F / 16°C, overcast, wind SW at 24 mph, humidity 87% - Friday partly cloudy (53°F-57°F / 12°C-14°C), Saturday chance of rain (38°F-55°F / 3°C-13°C), Sunday clear (45°F-47°F / 7°C-8°C), Monday rain (44°F-53°F / 7°C-12°C) - source: Google
[19:53:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i miss anything good whilst i was gaming away the morning?
[19:53:40] <chromas> coffee variables were incrememented
[19:53:51] <chromas> and the site burned down
[19:54:00] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nothin that I noticed
[19:54:13] <chromas> ~leather
[19:54:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> good good. nothing that was my problem then.
[19:54:21] <Bytram> ~lace
[19:54:23] <Bytram> =)
[19:55:27] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: so, I've come out from under the holiday crunch for a bit... anything I should bang on for the next couple hours?
[19:55:29] <Bytram> nogrb
[19:56:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's going live tomorrow or the day after, so not especially.
[19:57:24] <Bytram> aha.
[19:57:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we're mostly good though
[19:58:02] <Bytram> kewel
[19:58:15] <Bytram> what should I pay attention to?
[19:59:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> with this little time to poke at things, i'd say find things in the new themes that don't look up to snuff.
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[20:00:42] <Bytram> hmm, new themes. besides OMG Pownies?
[20:00:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything else would take days of back and forth to hammer out most likely.
[20:00:51] * Bytram really likes that one?
[20:00:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, the vt100 theme is new
[20:01:03] <Bytram> GAK!
[20:01:10] * Bytram almost choked on his dinner!
[20:01:24] * Bytram scurries over to dev to take a look
[20:03:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> drop me a note in #dev if you find anything. going to have a nap.
[20:03:36] <Bytram> k
[20:08:48] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: if you're still here -- when we upgrade to the new release, will the DB be updated to support the full UTF-8 character set? (IIRC, we are limited to, at most, 3-octet UTF-8 chars because of settings in/on the DB.)
[20:09:10] <Bytram> btw, VT100 looks GREAT!!!
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[21:44:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Will Monitor Seahawks Stadium For Fan-Induced Earthquakes - http://sylnt.us - please-cheer-quietly-and-don't-stamp-your-feet
[21:45:20] <Bytram> time for me to take a nap, as well.
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[21:58:34] <juggs> SoylentNews theme tune - .cheesy cover of Faith No More - We Care A Lot. Expect our version will be "We Nap A Lot" :D
[22:01:05] <crutchy> naps++
[22:01:05] <Bender> karma - naps: 4
[22:01:19] <crutchy> only 4!?
[22:02:03] <mechanicjay> srsly!
[22:02:06] <mechanicjay> naps++
[22:02:06] <Bender> karma - naps: 5
[22:04:15] <crutchy> coffee be damned.. we need naps!
[22:05:26] <juggs> naps++
[22:05:26] <Bender> karma - naps: 6
[22:05:29] <juggs> sleep++
[22:05:29] <Bender> karma - sleep: 13
[22:05:45] <crutchy> ah
[22:05:47] <crutchy> sleep++
[22:05:48] <Bender> karma - sleep: 14
[22:05:57] <crutchy> damn terminology
[22:06:42] <crutchy> ooh i could really use a coffee now. unfortunately it would require somehow extracting myself off the couch
[22:07:00] <juggs> sudo mrs crutchy bring coffee
[22:07:14] <crutchy> she's still asleep :(
[22:07:25] <crutchy> need to make noise :p
[22:07:57] <juggs> magicpktctl send mrs_crutchy
[22:08:29] <juggs> ~time crutchy
[22:08:30] <crutchy> need to get a kettle with systemd
[22:08:31] <exec> Saturday, 10 January 2015 @ 9:08 am GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[22:09:36] <crutchy> how's juggs today?
[22:09:51] <crutchy> noticed i missed bytram... twice
[22:10:01] <crutchy> damn upside down people
[22:10:42] <juggs> juggs is fine today thanks - settled in with a cold beer and a monumental trade run in oolite
[22:11:18] <juggs> how's crutchy?
[22:11:37] <crutchy> oolite?
[22:11:52] <crutchy> crutchy is ok. bit groggy still. needs coffee
[22:11:57] <juggs> http://www.oolite.org
[22:11:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Oolite: an open-world space opera
[22:12:20] <juggs> Beautified Elite
[22:12:40] <juggs> GPL too :D
[22:12:45] <crutchy> looks cool
[22:13:07] <juggs> Tis fun if you're into that kinda thing
[22:13:52] <crutchy> actually you might have mentioned that ages ago cos i vaguely remember mentioning i programmed a client for what might be a similarish old play by email game called spiralarm
[22:15:07] <juggs> Yah, I probably mentioned it before. Haven't played in a while. It's one of those games I come back to now and then.
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[22:24:55] <Landon> oh man, Freelancer was the beezus kneezus when it came out
[22:25:22] <juggs> Never played that one
[22:25:55] <crutchy> hmm actually looks like oolite is not really like spiral arm... just this screenshot reminded me of SA http://www.oolite.org
[22:26:45] <juggs> oolite is very much a remake of the original elite with better graphics and extensibility with add-ons
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[22:37:13] <crutchy> yay wifey making coffee :D
[22:38:33] <crutchy> for some reason i find myself looking for maps of fictional cities
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[22:41:07] <juggs> mrs_crutchy++
[22:41:07] <Bender> karma - mrs_crutchy: 1
[22:41:15] <juggs> underrated it seems :D
[22:41:28] <crutchy> yeah i reckon
[22:41:33] <crutchy> mrs_crutchy++
[22:41:33] <Bender> karma - mrs_crutchy: 2
[22:42:26] <crutchy> should i be disturbed that someone upped my wife here before i did?
[22:42:45] <juggs> Let's you get away with putting off mowing the lawn AND makes coffee - golden :D
[22:43:34] <crutchy> she gets a lot of cups of tea in return
[22:43:57] <juggs> fair enough
[22:44:10] <juggs> or is it fair dinkum
[22:45:02] <crutchy> dunno. i'll have to confer with my wombat :p
[22:46:00] <crutchy> someone at work mentioned something about drop bears being a not-insignificant factor in potentially lost tourism to this country
[22:46:25] <juggs> people will believe anything
[22:47:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yanks all think drop bears are cute. we haven't had to experience the surprise face eating.
[22:47:34] <crutchy> lol
[22:47:34] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[22:48:21] <crutchy> i've only heard of one attack by one of their lesser known koala cousins
[22:48:24] <juggs> good nap TMB?
[22:48:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> only oz could have teddy bears that want to mangle you.
[22:48:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it was pretty quality at that.
[22:49:01] <crutchy> it chased after and attacked my brother's friend on a pushbike (years ago)
[22:49:55] <juggs> a koala on a pushbike? That is scary!
[22:50:10] <crutchy> hahah
[22:50:15] <juggs> Did it have eucalyptus leaves in the spokes to make a menacing clacking noise?
[22:50:25] <crutchy> dammit now there's gunna be more rumors :p
[22:51:51] <crutchy> that clacking is the sound of the dreaded monster viper sharpening its fangs
[22:51:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, you personally set tourism back by five years. everyone in oz say "thanks, crutchy"
[22:52:40] <juggs> I'll make it down to that side of the globe one day
[22:53:38] <crutchy> i'd recommend staying away from major cities, cos they look like most other citiees
[22:54:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me. everything down there is either poisonous, wants to eat me, both, or writes php
[22:54:19] <crutchy> lmao
[22:54:27] <crutchy> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[22:54:27] <Bender> Added quote 340
[22:54:39] <crutchy> or all of the above
[22:55:11] <crutchy> our drop bears are experienced in php torture as well
[22:55:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yak
[22:56:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly all their little brains can handle what with spending 98% of their brainpower on evil plots
[22:58:15] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[22:58:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Drop Bear Attack Caught on Film - New Zealander Mauled - YouTube
[22:58:26] <crutchy> lol no wonder our tourism is fukked
[22:58:27] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[22:59:17] <crutchy> http://www.reddit.com
[22:59:20] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Drop Bear : australia
[22:59:35] <crutchy> "She told me to go talk to some Australians about it then to come back to her."
[22:59:47] <crutchy> that's prolly not the best advice :p
[23:00:09] <crutchy> drop bears ARE real!
[23:00:18] * crutchy pets his drop bear
[23:00:57] <crutchy> lmao "Drop bears are less likely to attack people with Australian accents"
[23:00:59] <juggs> I keep drop bears as live food for my drop tigers and drop lions
[23:01:05] <crutchy> http://www.australiangeographic.com.au
[23:01:07] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Drop bears target tourists, study says - Australian Geographic
[23:02:25] <crutchy> i'm getting a sense why tourists might think these things are real
[23:02:55] <juggs> it has been quite a concerted effort :D
[23:04:07] <crutchy> maybe its part of the government's 'stop the boat people' policy
[23:04:22] <crutchy> scare the shit out of everyone so they don't want to come here :D
[23:05:05] <crutchy> "Thylarctos plummetus" :D
[23:05:13] <crutchy> http://australianmuseum.net.au
[23:05:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Drop Bear - Australian Museum
[23:12:25] <juggs> Interesting seeing the lastest trend for boat people headed to Europe - crew sets auto-pilot toward Italy or wherever, then debunks in a lifeboat. Now, whether the crew actually debunks, or just assimilates into the refugee passengers is another question. Leaves the coastguard to board the ship and pilot it in.
[23:18:42] <juggs> Seems the refugees manage to break out of their cargo hold confinement a few hundred miles of the coast and learn to use the ship's radio too.
[23:18:56] <juggs> I'm sure that's how it happens :D
[23:20:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> who the hell abandons a perfectly good ship?
[23:20:40] <crutchy> that's what our navy and coast guard is for... shooting up boats full of illegal immigrants :p
[23:21:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, ships is worth moneys. wtf do they think they're gonna get in italy or wherever that's worth more than selling the ship?
[23:21:50] <juggs> TMB - these are mostly end of life ferries or cargo ships. If you are pulling $2000+ per refugee and stack a few hundred in and avoid scrappage fees... it makes sense
[23:22:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> end of life might make sense. i'd still turn it into a pirate ship before i just gave it up though.
[23:22:49] <juggs> where you going to dock? Somalia?
[23:22:50] <ciri> somewhere out on the WEB i guess juggs
[23:23:25] <crutchy> or drop a bunch of anchors and declare your independent sovereign nationality
[23:23:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, ima wait till the republicans get it office then petition for a letter of marque
[23:23:52] <crutchy> ~define letter of marque
[23:23:58] <exec> [wikipedia] 3Letter_of_marque: In the days of fighting sail, a letter of marque and reprisal was a government license authorizing a person (known as a privateer) to attack and capture enemy vessels and bring them before admiralty c...
[23:24:07] <crutchy> ah
[23:24:31] <juggs> these things just about manage to limp across the med - their not the kind of thing you're going to moor up mid-atlantic and setup a 300' pirate radio mast one :D
[23:24:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> go capture iranian oil tankers or something.
[23:24:37] <crutchy> government sanctioned piracy
[23:24:39] <juggs> they're
[23:24:41] <crutchy> noice
[23:25:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, reality just keeps shitting on my dream of being a pirate.
[23:25:31] <crutchy> reality--
[23:25:31] <Bender> karma - reality: -1
[23:25:35] <crutchy> coffee++
[23:25:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 964
[23:25:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> reality--
[23:25:39] <Bender> karma - reality: -2
[23:25:54] <crutchy> coffee_induced_alternate_reality++
[23:25:54] <Bender> karma - coffee_induced_alternate_reality: 1
[23:26:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i only ever get corner of the eye hallucinations
[23:26:40] <crutchy> ciri is a butt pirate
[23:26:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> usually when i've been drinking cappuccino in the same volumes that i normally drink coffee
[23:26:59] * juggs earns $$$ shipping cargo and passengers across a galaxy far far away. Seems real enough to me
[23:27:25] <crutchy> i prefer to mow down zerglings
[23:28:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> assassin's creed iv, all the pirating you could want.
[23:28:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> bonus points if you pirate the game
[23:29:12] <juggs> depends on my mood. I have one commander with a freighter for doing gentile cargo runs, then another with a fast aggressive ship for doing bounties. Today I am in a float about doing cargo, peaceful shit mood.
[23:29:58] <juggs> Put some music on and look at some planets on the way :D
[23:30:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds very firefly
[23:30:50] <juggs> do I mean "genteel" ? hmmph, won't remember to look that up
[23:31:58] <juggs> I looked it up - yeh - genteel
[23:32:12] <crutchy> ~define genteel
[23:32:13] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3genteel: Polite,refined or respectable,often in an affected or ostentatious way
[23:32:26] <crutchy> aww not even any sexual references?
[23:33:33] <juggs> ~define ~gentile
[23:33:45] <exec> ~gentile: unable to find definition
[23:33:48] <juggs> ~define gentile
[23:33:49] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3gentile: 1. Jewish term for someone who is not a Jew 2. Mormon term for someone who is not a Mormon.
[23:34:08] <crutchy> eh?
[23:34:14] <juggs> Yah - need to not mess those two up
[23:34:49] <juggs> You seem confused crutchy
[23:34:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> on a happier note, firefly online has a target date of this spring
[23:35:02] <crutchy> i'm always confused
[23:35:13] <crutchy> need moar coffee
[23:35:33] <crutchy> might be expected to make my own this time :p
[23:37:04] <juggs> and make tea too
[23:40:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> been thinking of getting an aeropress but i find them mildly disturbing in their similarity to swedish made penis enlarger pumps
[23:41:34] -!- mythterj [mythterj!mythterj@tonvizu.sdf.org] has parted #Soylent
[23:41:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> french press is right out because, well, french.
[23:41:41] <juggs> Next thing you know you'll be buying extenders or something
[23:42:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'm happy with my junk size. whether they are or not isn't my problem.
[23:43:43] <juggs> I wish I hadn't brought that up. I probably summoned him
[23:46:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Appeals Court Orders Government To Return Non-Child Porn Files To Convicted Man - http://sylnt.us - OK-here's-your-adult-porn....
[23:48:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, i'm bored.
[23:50:00] <juggs> Welcome to January
[23:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. no tv cause mid-season break and no fishing cause fuck that it's cold
[23:52:40] <juggs> I swear, the person that comes up with the cure for Northern Hemisphere January general shittiness is going to be a very rich person. It's just something to get through at the moment.
[23:53:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> well there's always the scottish solution. drink scotch.
[23:58:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i'll go have some foods. that and cleanup should shave an hour off how long i have to stay awake.
[23:58:39] <juggs> That's quite a Nordic / Scandi solution
[23:59:21] <juggs> Short days are the pits though - I'd hate live any further north than I do
[23:59:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i paid for my own food. the govt didn't buy it for me. =P