#Soylent | Logs for 2015-01-08

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[01:00:34] * SpallsHurgenson waits for the excitement to begin
[01:01:07] * juggs summons excitement and mirth
[01:02:10] <SpallsHurgenson> but Summon Excitement is a fifth level spell and you are only fourth level!
[01:02:29] <SpallsHurgenson> quick, smite someone for the XP so you can level up!
[01:02:33] <juggs> I used su
[01:03:04] <SpallsHurgenson> "su" in roleplaying games = buying the gamemaster pizza :)
[01:03:25] <juggs> a.k.a. bribes
[01:03:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I prefer ot call it "appreciating the skill of a talented game judge" :)
[01:04:15] <juggs> You should be a politician
[01:04:21] <SpallsHurgenson> imagine if computers required this sort of "appreciation" before they let us do stuff
[01:05:09] <SpallsHurgenson> format disk. >NO< Add 4GB RAM then format disk >FORMATTING...<
[01:11:23] <juggs> I'd have a cluster of super computers by now
[01:11:44] <juggs> or be bankrupt :/
[01:15:34] <SpallsHurgenson> useless fact: in 1992, a 1GB hdd cost $1,195 USD
[01:16:30] <SpallsHurgenson> if I had as much storage back then as I do now, I'd have been a multimillionaire.
[01:16:53] <SpallsHurgenson> its times like this I wish I had a time machine
[01:18:21] <juggs> Not sure how taking a 2TB SATA-3 drive back to 1992 would net you much
[01:18:47] <swiss> if you had the rest of the computer, you'd net plenty
[01:18:51] <SpallsHurgenson> I'll bring the whole rig :)
[01:19:04] <swiss> do online storage for people
[01:19:26] <juggs> Seem to remember buying a 500MB Quantum Fireball around that time - that seemed ENORMOUS!
[01:19:40] <swiss> useless fact: in 1992, swiss did not exist
[01:20:03] <SpallsHurgenson> anyway, I might go back a bit further than that :)
[01:20:11] <swiss> also, why is the new corvette z06/z07 such a perfect car
[01:20:28] <juggs> Because you swallowed the marketing?
[01:20:41] <SirFinkus> is isn't
[01:20:48] <SpallsHurgenson> ooh, that's gonna be painful when it comes back out... all those staples
[01:21:11] <swiss> juggs: no, i wanted to hate it
[01:21:22] <swiss> but that performance... at that price....
[01:21:25] <swiss> and 30 mpg....
[01:21:36] <juggs> WOW! A whole 30 mpg :D
[01:21:36] <SirFinkus> terrible plastic thing
[01:22:15] <SirFinkus> I've forgotten, have they figured out the whole "corners" thing yet?
[01:22:57] <juggs> Is it a massive V8 up front?
[01:24:44] <SirFinkus> well, of course it does
[01:26:06] <juggs> oh wow, that's weird.... middle click in PaleMoon browser and I get the page that would be the "Back" page from my Firefox browser session. That shouldn't happen I'm sure.
[01:26:38] <juggs> Wonder if it uses a static memory location for that or something
[01:26:53] <SirFinkus> basically, in that price range I'd go for an ariel atom, since it's just going to be a toy anyway
[01:26:54] <SpallsHurgenson> good god, there's no room to sit in that car! and where will the groceries go?
[01:27:37] * SpallsHurgenson realizes he may not be the intended market for that particular brand of motorcar
[01:29:58] <SirFinkus> I figure if you want something impractical that you're just going to take out of the garage every once in a while, you might as well go all in
[01:30:20] <SpallsHurgenson> and really, 4 exhaust pipes? :)
[01:30:31] <swiss> juggs: for the 660 hp, 30mpg is awesome
[01:30:33] <SirFinkus> everything about the ariel atom is absurd
[01:30:42] <SirFinkus> v8 turbo on a go cart
[01:31:04] <swiss> juggs: http://www.caranddriver.com it got a 2:41.3 on this, not listed cause it's 2015
[01:31:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Lightning Lap 2014: Complete LL Times 2006 to 2014 ? Feature ? Car and Driver
[01:31:34] <juggs> swiss, you and I both know, if you are extracting 660hp from it regularly with a heavy right foot, you ain't getting 30mpg :D
[01:31:54] * SpallsHurgenson looks at the ariel atom; my god, there's even LESS rom for groceries! :)
[01:32:20] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, true, which is weird as it looks more like ashopping cart
[01:32:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd have to drive home each item individually
[01:32:30] <swiss> juggs: of course, it deactivates cylinders to get that mpg
[01:32:39] <juggs> ariel atom is a track day car
[01:32:51] <SirFinkus> exactly
[01:32:52] <swiss> but to be able to drive to the track with 30mpg, race all day, and get 30mpg on the way home
[01:33:14] <swiss> juggs: http://blog.caranddriver.com
[01:33:14] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Watch the 2015 Corvette Z06 Absolutely Destroy VIR – News – Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog
[01:33:38] <juggs> swiss but you need room for four sets of rear tires for that "race all day" at least :D
[01:33:49] <swiss> lol
[01:33:54] <swiss> it has a lot of trunk space
[01:34:02] <swiss> especially if you get the hardtop
[01:34:11] <swiss> prob enough for at least 1 more set of rear tires
[01:34:21] <SpallsHurgenson> won't fit; that's where you stash your younger brother and his pet monkey
[01:34:41] * SpallsHurgenson knows how racing cars work :)
[01:34:50] <SirFinkus> 4 tires in the back has got to fuck with the balance
[01:36:21] <swiss> lol
[01:39:39] <juggs> You leave them in the pit lane for other people to steal while you're out on track of course :D
[01:39:57] <SpallsHurgenson> the tires or the younger brother?
[01:40:00] <swiss> yes
[01:40:06] <SpallsHurgenson> heheh
[01:41:52] <juggs> ooh - transmission in the rear - I as wondering how they'd managed to avoid that noise heavy big V8 problem
[01:42:01] <juggs> nose*
[01:43:02] <swiss> juggs: also, they got it flat by not having overhead cams
[01:44:41] <juggs> pushrods or some convoluted desmo drive ?
[01:45:02] <swiss> pushrod
[01:45:15] <swiss> also, 7 speed manual, or 8 speed auto
[01:45:29] <swiss> finally included an automatic.... since it's faster now
[01:45:48] <swiss> though i'd never buy one, ignoring a higher performance option as a manufacturer is silly
[01:46:23] <juggs> why on earth does a big V8 need 8 gears?
[01:46:51] <SirFinkus> one for each piston
[01:46:59] <SirFinkus> duh
[01:47:15] <juggs> 8 gears says "peaky" to me, V8 says "big flat massive torque curve" - doesn't compute
[01:48:59] <juggs> Or is it just a case of "we want to call it a supercar, so through some more ratios in there and a flappy paddle shift on the steering wheel, whether it needs it or not"
[01:49:11] <juggs> throw*
[01:49:33] <juggs> "I don't care... put 2 gears on the handle.... sideways!!!"
[01:49:52] <Konomi> wonder if crutchy lived the night
[01:50:01] <Konomi> seems so ;p
[01:50:18] <juggs> His AC got fired I think
[01:50:23] <juggs> fried*
[01:50:25] <swiss> juggs: idk, but it's under 3 second 0-60 with the 8 gears
[01:50:46] <swiss> then again, you're used to fewer gears because cars didn't reach such high speeds
[01:52:11] <juggs> Nooo... I'm used to fewer gears because V8s generally have a very flat torque curve, so the requirement for ratio shifting isn't there.
[01:53:42] <swiss> ah
[01:53:57] <swiss> well, as cars add hp, they have higher top speeds, so i think it's only natural for gears to increase
[01:54:04] <swiss> oh, it's also supercharged
[01:55:58] <swiss> only revs to 6500 as well
[01:56:11] <juggs> Which generally adds lower end torque. Depends on the characteristics of the engine I suppose, maybe they built a super revvy screamer ala previous years' F1 engines. Going to be a bit highly strung if that is the case,.
[01:56:21] <juggs> Ohh...
[01:56:33] <juggs> Then I'm befuddled for now
[01:57:13] <swiss> torque peaks at 2800 rpm
[01:57:29] <swiss> but it's flat
[01:57:36] <swiss> the torque curve
[01:57:48] <juggs> http://www.automotiveaddicts.com
[01:58:31] <swiss> so it's prob to keep it in that high HP range?
[01:59:25] <juggs> Makes you wonder whether they were going for numbers for press releases or driveability :D
[02:00:04] <swiss> well, it's destroying others as far as drivability goes
[02:01:11] <juggs> That chart would make more sense if the axis (torque & hp) were similarly scaled. There's no reason for the torque axis to be scaled to 1400
[02:01:54] <swiss> oh, lol
[02:02:12] <swiss> ehh, i can see why
[02:02:27] <swiss> keeps things towards the center of the graph
[02:02:36] <Konomi> crutchy_: do you live ;p
[02:03:00] <Popeidol> crutchy replaced himself with a script months ago
[02:03:03] * juggs recharges batteries from crutchy_'s aura
[02:04:44] <juggs> swiss, at least the body bits won't rust out in the salty states :D
[02:04:56] <swiss> 0lol
[02:05:11] <swiss> i think i'll get one in a couple years
[02:10:25] <crutchy_> think the lightning might have hit the sewerage breather pipe. I found the top cap sitting on the driveway thismorning. still waiting for insurance guy
[02:10:47] <juggs> Just when the electronic brains flake out for the trans, the engine and the eLSD - could be expensive. Will be interesting to see how they fair for longevity,
[02:11:43] <Konomi> my turn for storms late tonight early tomorrow
[02:11:45] <juggs> crutchy_, were you out on the balcony when that hit?
[02:11:48] <SpallsHurgenson> well, it's a chevy so I'm sure you've nothing to worry about :)
[02:12:10] <juggs> I've no idea SpallsHurgenson, we don't get them over here
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[02:12:40] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... let me rephrase.
[02:12:56] * Konomi tries to stick metal to crutchy_
[02:12:59] <Konomi> he may have become magnetic
[02:13:00] <SpallsHurgenson> well, it's an %american car% so I'm sure you've nothing to worry about :)
[02:13:20] <SpallsHurgenson> crutchy: helpful hint - avoid getting struck by lightning
[02:14:25] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, again I have no frame of reference. Is %american car% good, bad or indifferent in respect to longevity?
[02:15:22] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: truly? where do you live? I have some automobile dealers who are DYING to meet you :) :) :)
[02:15:42] <swiss> juggs: lol. It still has one of the fastest set of brakes
[02:16:10] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: chevy, apart from the 90s and 00s, is pretty badass at longevity
[02:16:32] <swiss> the LS engine is pretty damn strong
[02:16:35] <SpallsHurgenson> and the 80s... and 70s... and 60s... :)
[02:16:37] <juggs> SpallsHurgenson, far, far, far away from any automobile dealers
[02:17:03] <juggs> swiss, da fuq is a fast set of brakes?
[02:17:08] <Popeidol> juggs lives in the movie waterworld
[02:17:11] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: we have so many 70s and 80s chevys driving around out here
[02:17:20] <SpallsHurgenson> no brakes and a brick wall :)
[02:17:22] <swiss> juggs: like, they have an incredibly short braking distance
[02:18:18] <juggs> heh, send me a container load, I can send a bridge in return :D
[02:45:37] <juggs> hmm... musta said something inappropriate again!
[02:46:33] <juggs> Konomi you still around?
[02:46:45] <Konomi> maybeeee
[02:47:14] <juggs> you run debian (or thereon based distro) right?
[02:47:41] <Konomi> debian yes
[02:47:53] <juggs> Do you have both palemoon and firefox installed?
[03:00:11] * juggs sighs
[03:00:40] <Konomi> palemoon crashes for me
[03:00:47] <Konomi> I never gave it much thought past that
[03:00:52] <Konomi> but I never went to the trouble of compiling it
[03:01:03] * SirFinkus is compiling a list of news sources that won't display the cartoons in question
[03:01:41] <chromas> is there another unpublishable toon?
[03:02:00] <SirFinkus> bunch of people got shot in paris
[03:02:08] <SirFinkus> kind of a big deal
[03:02:14] <juggs> no worries Konomi. I was just hoping you could hope replicate what I think is a serious problem between FF and PaleMoon when co-installed.
[03:02:31] <Popeidol> actual ff or iceweasel?
[03:02:55] <juggs> Popeidol, actuall ff - no idea about iceweasel
[03:03:00] <Konomi> what is the issue?
[03:03:00] <chromas> ah that's right; I read something about a Paris paper but didn't rtfa
[03:04:18] <chromas> I've got both browsers /not/ on Debian. Is that the same? :D
[03:07:03] <SirFinkus> so far, BBC, RT, Aljazeera, and Reuters are on the shit list
[03:07:41] <juggs> Konomi, Popeidol - running ff, many tabs, loads of restrictive addons etc. for general use for a few hours. Also run PaleMoon, apparmored but without restrictive plugins for some sites that are just too much work to individually whitelist stuff. Accidentally hit a middle button in PaleMoon and the tab goes to what would have been a "Back" page in one of my FF tabs. It's only the middle mouse click that triggers it. Almost as if the two browsers wer
[03:07:41] <juggs> e sharing the same memory location for that action.
[03:10:14] <Konomi> very odd
[03:10:23] <chromas> juggs: you're sure you didn't miss the link? I think there's an option for middle-click to go to the clipboard
[03:10:29] <juggs> It may just be my setup, but given their common root, wouldn't surprise me if something got overlooked. Who uses middle mouse in the browser anyway right?
[03:10:32] <chromas> (go to an address in the clipboard)
[03:10:32] <Konomi> middle click is a pest in linux
[03:10:35] <Konomi> if you go to about:config
[03:10:40] <Konomi> there's a bunch of things you can change
[03:11:10] <Konomi> middlemouse.paste and middlemouse.contentLoadURL are too I like to disable
[03:11:22] <juggs> chromas, it may well be my incompetence at play - hence why I wanted competent eyes on :D
[03:11:36] <Konomi> well I don't know how it works on other DES
[03:11:54] <Konomi> but on kde if you're hovering over a background window and do mouse actions it will go to that window instead of the focused one
[03:12:13] <Konomi> mouse has focus vs in windows where focused window dictates focus
[03:13:40] <Popeidol> "In Firefox, if you middle-click anywhere except on a link, it will try to load your selected text as a URL"
[03:13:44] <juggs> I like highlight and middle click to drop - but it's so damn inconsistent now.
[03:14:09] <juggs> Konomi, thank you, I shall explore those options.
[03:14:13] <Popeidol> the question is whether there's a reason for your firefox history to be in the clipboard
[03:14:24] <Konomi> two*
[03:14:26] <Konomi> stupid grammars
[03:15:12] <chromas> juggs: then it's a good thing you weren't asking me to help :D :D
[03:16:38] <chromas> Popeidol: it'd make sense if the previous page was one that had been pasted from somewhere
[03:16:52] <chromas> maybe that's why it only sometimes happens
[03:16:58] <juggs> Well I didn't knowingly take urls into the clipboard Popeidol - either with a Ctrl-C (clipA) or by highlighting it (clipB) - in fact the page presented by the accidental mid-click in PaleMoon was only a "Back" in a tab in FF I hadn't used for a few hours
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[03:18:32] <BadCoderFinger> Hi guys
[03:18:37] * juggs GPS locates and calls down nuclear hellfire to his own location. It's the only way to be sure
[03:18:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin
[03:18:48] <juggs> Hi BadCoderFinger
[03:18:48] <ciri> hi juggs
[03:19:13] <BadCoderFinger> How are you guys?
[03:19:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> old, tired, otherwise pretty good.
[03:19:40] <BadCoderFinger> Heh, that happens.
[03:20:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> pondering seriously upon grabbing a pillow
[03:20:52] <BadCoderFinger> I'd suggest beer, it's more comforting.
[03:21:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> your idea also has merit
[03:21:13] * SpallsHurgenson perks up, "nuclear hellfire?"
[03:22:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to avoid the booze today though on the off chance paulej72 is feeling better tomorrow and we can do the site upgrade though.
[03:22:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> would have been done this past weekend but he caught the plague
[03:23:07] <BadCoderFinger> Bleh!
[03:23:13] <BadCoderFinger> Hey Spalls!
[03:24:44] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, I thought you were out for the duration
[03:25:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just ain't been feelin chatty today.
[03:25:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> or did ya mean for the move?
[03:25:30] <juggs> ya that
[03:25:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause that got postponed another few weeks. looking like sometime in febuary now.
[03:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> just as well really. it's balls cold out there.
[03:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> c'mon global warming...
[03:26:55] <juggs> Bad for you, good for us I guess. Provided paulej72 can shake the plague and shed the workload :)
[03:27:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really a big update. should go smooth enough. even have a couple lines to add if pj don't object.
[03:27:52] <juggs> I'd rather it went ny two sets of eyes
[03:27:58] <juggs> by*
[03:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> change the submission category "slash" to "soylent" and add "politics"
[03:28:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[03:29:25] <juggs> Yah, we need "politics" category. The nexus resolution seems farther off every time I broach it.
[03:29:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> easier to do categories now and spin them off to a nexus later
[03:30:09] <juggs> just as well
[03:30:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> really, given our hardware setup we're better off not using nexuses right now.
[03:31:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> they require their own hostname and at the very least a virtualhost for themselves. less resource hoggy to use categories by a long shot.
[03:32:28] <juggs> What's the drama? It's just subdomains essentially right? I know apache has it's special gift of eating resources, but I didn't think we were that tight
[03:33:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're not but less resource hoggy is less resource hoggy.
[03:33:50] * juggs invokes Pointy-Haired-Boss Mode
[03:34:25] <juggs> Give me Soylent on a RaspPi
[03:34:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> we probably could right now.
[03:36:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't like to try it for production but i'd bet we could make it work for the staff one.
[03:37:29] <juggs> Would be a foolish endeavour. We do need to get certain capacity back online though (not your bag I know).
[03:38:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could do it if i had the linode login info but yeah, not what i signed up for.
[03:39:23] <juggs> All too easy to get sucked in in the spirit of just helping out.
[03:39:56] <juggs> We know where that ends
[03:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. thankfully i have a protective layer of lazy.
[03:42:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> bastiches might have suckered me into sysadmin or even CEO by now if i didn't
[03:42:33] <juggs> And a second layer of... fool me once no doubt
[03:43:03] <juggs> Yah.. look at me... blazing the CEO glory
[03:43:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i've burnt myself out on a project or two. know better now.
[03:43:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lawmaker’s Facebook Rant Threatens Media for “Unauthorized” Use of His Name - http://sylnt.us - what-ethics
[03:44:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> kinda impressed myself with being able to toss out ~20h/week without any issues that can't be cured by blowing it off and going fishing.
[03:45:58] <juggs> Is that because you are left up to your own devices as to when you apply the time?
[03:47:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> partially. mostly it's because i do most of it before i get awake enough to be annoyed with it. 5-9am every weekday morning, give or take.
[03:51:38] <Leebert> I'll say this for Soylent; it's given me a 100% article submission acceptance rate. :)
[03:52:59] <juggs> Better than me Leebert :)
[03:53:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto. i duped one.
[03:53:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> and unlike some sites, our editors catch that shit
[03:54:54] <juggs> Unsung heroes - day in day out
[03:55:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably for the best. i got called out in gradeschool music class for being completely tone deaf.
[03:55:48] <juggs> Must be like tech support - no one says anything when it's going well, one slip and they catch hell
[03:56:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, i had a tech support guy working for me at an isp who managed to accidentally find a bug that started removing the entire home directory on the main server.
[03:57:30] <Leebert> Yup; I appreciate all of y'all.
[03:57:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> isp was owned by the chickasaw nation and the shat removed included the governor's personal stuff.
[03:58:06] <Leebert> I even begrudingly appreciate gewg_ and High Pickens. At least they submit stuff.
[03:58:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, without them we'd be a very sparse site
[03:58:59] <Leebert> TBH, I'd submit more if all I did was copy/paste from articles. :)
[03:59:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all crutchy does for the most part.
[04:00:42] <juggs> Leebert, I know. We need to get to OC. There's a funding hurdle in the way.
[04:02:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> not necessarily. blogs get plenty of OC for free, though it's largely opinion pieces.
[04:02:52] <Leebert> Forgive me. "OC"?
[04:03:16] <SirFinkus> original content?
[04:03:20] <Leebert> Ahh.
[04:03:31] <SirFinkus> someone post the cartoons
[04:03:43] <Leebert> I could ask Roblimo to film a video. :D
[04:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ethanon-fueled could manage a few opinion pieces i'm sure.
[04:06:02] <Leebert> hahaha
[04:06:49] <BadCoderFinger> Dear god, if we ever needed user based filters...
[04:06:57] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[04:11:40] * Leebert did not win Power Ball. :(
[04:12:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> me either. prolly cause i didn't buy a ticket.
[04:12:43] <Leebert> Well, since I rolled my truck yesterday, I figured I'd give it a whirl and see if I could get some good luck today.
[04:12:43] <BadCoderFinger> That seems to prevent most of us from winning.
[04:31:11] <Popeidol> giving EF a weekly column would definitely be a way to bring more traffic in
[04:31:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, plus it would honk off all the sjw types, which is usually a good thing.
[04:31:52] <Popeidol> in the same way that if you want more pets, just leave rotting food all over your house
[04:32:10] <BadCoderFinger> If only there was some way to have a "troll" section and the trolls didn't know they were confined there.
[04:32:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, we have high quality trolls for the most part.
[04:33:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> even EF can bust out with a good argument for his side most of the time.
[04:33:13] <juggs> no, invisible mod is not something we will ever have.
[04:33:16] <SirFinkus> so censorship?
[04:33:51] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I know. Just a bit of wishful thinking.
[04:34:46] <juggs> Distasteful.
[04:34:47] <SirFinkus> so because it offends you, you wish I didn't have the right to read it?
[04:35:00] <BadCoderFinger> Anything modded by humans can be biased, anything modded by algorithm can be gamed.
[04:35:14] <BadCoderFinger> Oh no, don't get me wrong, I'm all for free expression.
[04:35:23] <SirFinkus> but...
[04:36:00] <SirFinkus> if you want the trolls carted off to a separate section of the site, you aren't for free expression.
[04:36:01] <BadCoderFinger> And the earlier point about the site having high quality trolls is true.
[04:36:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh come on, everyone has just a bit of hypothetical fascist in them. don't get uppity like you don't do it too. =P
[04:36:49] <SirFinkus> ./set mode +b TheMightyBuzzard
[04:36:49] <juggs> Projecting TMB?
[04:37:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, everyone thinks things would be so much better if they ran them. it's human nature.
[04:38:12] <juggs> Nope.
[04:38:16] <SirFinkus> but that the exact opposite of what I was saying
[04:38:55] * juggs heads for the duvets of sanity
[04:39:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> SirFinkus, i know, which is why i called you on it.
[04:39:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite oh boobalicious boss
[04:40:15] <SirFinkus> I'll never argue for censorship, feel free to call me on it if I do
[04:40:23] <SpallsHurgenson> it is freaking cold! I ask again, can we PLEASE invade australia for some of their heat?
[04:40:37] <BadCoderFinger> We could have it flown in.
[04:40:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> just ask crutchy_ to box you up a few degrees and ship them.
[04:41:01] <BadCoderFinger> It seems to stick behind jet engines, so that's the logical place to ship it.
[04:41:18] <SirFinkus> a balmy 4 here
[04:41:54] <SpallsHurgenson> 'bout the same here (although feels like -5)
[04:42:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> 15F here. have to keep my faucets dripping to keep from having busted water lines tonight.
[04:42:41] <SpallsHurgenson> even the polar bears are complaining.
[04:43:25] <SpallsHurgenson> it was 60 degrees just four days ago, too.
[04:49:20] <SpallsHurgenson> dunno if this amazes me or scares me https://www.youtube.com
[04:49:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Face Hacking / Real-Time Face Tracking & 3D Projection Mapping - YouTube
[04:50:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> doesn't bother me, i have guns.
[04:50:20] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[04:50:20] <Bender> karma - tea: 351
[04:50:21] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[04:50:21] <Bender> karma - tea: 352
[04:50:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, JamesNZ
[04:50:36] <JamesNZ> Afternoon TheMightyBuzzard \o
[04:50:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> knew it was one of them times what wasn't mine
[04:51:03] <JamesNZ> :)
[04:51:06] <SpallsHurgenson> on the other hand, maybe happy times? http://arstechnica.com
[04:51:07] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Title II for Internet providers is all but confirmed by FCC chairman | Ars Technica
[04:52:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nifty. that along with them bumping broadband to 24Mb could lead to non-suck
[04:52:42] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, that new broadband definition won't do a thing. they'll just call it "fast internet" or "high speed internet" or something, just like they did when the 5MB limit was created
[04:53:05] <BadCoderFinger> They'll find a way to make it suck. Most likely "up to 24Mb"
[04:53:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, yup
[04:53:46] <Popeidol> it's pretty handy for slamming your competitors though
[04:53:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's mostly so the fcc's maps of where internet service sucks are accurate.
[04:53:55] <SpallsHurgenson> competitors?
[04:53:56] <Popeidol> 'the only ISP in town x that offers broadband'
[04:54:01] <Popeidol> oh thats right, you're in the US
[04:54:02] <BadCoderFinger> $DEITY forbid they give you a service you pay for.
[04:54:03] <Popeidol> never mind
[04:54:18] * SpallsHurgenson tilts his head and looks at Popeidol like might a confused puppy
[04:54:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> land of anti-capitalist monopolies, yup yup
[04:54:54] <SpallsHurgenson> still nothing about unbundlin' the lines either, which might have helped with that "competition" thing I've heard about
[04:56:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> what'd help more is requiring another comparable service provider be available in that area or regulate the shit out of them
[04:57:02] <SpallsHurgenson> mind you, I'm on both sides of the fence with that one, since I don't like giving the gubment another precedent for grabbing private property, even if it is to the overall benefit of society
[04:58:06] <BadCoderFinger> I don't see how they could make a bigger mess of it, but then again, they probably hire people to do exactly that.
[04:58:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> or give anyone wanting to provide service in a monopoly area a tax break for the first three years.
[04:58:35] <SpallsHurgenson> (okay, technically unbundling isn't a government seizure... but they are forcing the property owners - the telcos and cablecos - to share their property - the lines - with others. Its still a bad precedent)
[04:58:54] <BadCoderFinger> Those lines that we taxpayers financed?
[04:59:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a bad precedent if they got permission to lay the lines through eminent domain.
[04:59:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> BadCoderFinger, generally not, no.
[04:59:53] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, I know... but it still is their property. if the government had hired the telecos to build the lines FOR them it would be less an issue
[05:00:04] <SpallsHurgenson> (and it doesn't apply to the cablecos at all)
[05:00:29] <SirFinkus> I can't think of a better practical solution though
[05:00:34] <SpallsHurgenson> but on the other other hand... fuck comcast and verizon?
[05:00:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> adding restrictions in return for special consideration of eminent domain isn't especially burdensome.
[05:00:54] <SirFinkus> we can't physically have poles for each teleco
[05:01:06] <BadCoderFinger> It would be nice if we could regulate them like a utility company.
[05:01:19] <SpallsHurgenson> TMB: so long as those restrictions are added at the time of financing, not applied years after.
[05:01:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, regulation is generally a bad thing.
[05:01:41] <BadCoderFinger> I'm not convinced it would be bad in this case.
[05:01:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> some does need to be done to promote competition though.
[05:01:44] <SpallsHurgenson> uh-oh... I think I've had this discussion with TMB before :)
[05:01:59] <BadCoderFinger> They're already monopolies, for the most part. So restrict them as such.
[05:02:03] * SpallsHurgenson instead suggests we talk about fluffy bunnies
[05:02:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'm generally on the stay the fuck out of peoples' financial lives side.
[05:02:17] * chromas has long suspected that TheMightyBuzzard and SpallsHurgenson are two sides of the same beard
[05:02:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> monopolies though, i'm a trustbuster type.
[05:02:31] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm the handsomer side :)
[05:02:34] <BadCoderFinger> Heh!
[05:02:44] <SirFinkus> well, utilities are unique due to the fact that they are natural monoplies
[05:02:45] <BadCoderFinger> I'm with you on the trustbusting part.
[05:02:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like capitalism and capitalism only works if there's competition.
[05:02:56] <SirFinkus> you only have one water pipe that comes to your house
[05:03:14] <SirFinkus> it's not like you can choose your water company, nor would that be practical
[05:03:24] <SpallsHurgenson> I have two water sources to my house: one to my sinks and one to my ceiling :)
[05:03:44] <SirFinkus> it's the same with other utilities
[05:03:46] <BadCoderFinger> Yes, I agree. And like you said, we can multiply the wires on the poles to get competition, but most people wouldn't want that.
[05:04:42] <BadCoderFinger> And in the case of the cable companies, not only are they monopolies because of the wires, they are also legislated into being monopoly territories.
[05:04:50] <SirFinkus> I'd say nationalize or heavily regulate utilities, I'd just be worried about government spying when it comes to telecoms
[05:04:50] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.intel.com not sure what I would do with it, but I want one :)
[05:04:51] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Intel® Compute Stick
[05:05:03] <SirFinkus> but we're in that situation anyway, so
[05:05:21] <BadCoderFinger> It's not like they don't roll over for an official looking letterhead.
[05:05:37] <SpallsHurgenson> if data is regulated as type II, does that mean that its pipes get the same "protections" as landline telephone calls?
[05:05:38] <SirFinkus> some of them have stood up to it
[05:05:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> you lot figure this out if you can. it's been bothering me for a while but i'm tired and going to bed.
[05:05:53] <SpallsHurgenson> (e.g., actually requiring a specific warrant before being tapped)
[05:06:17] <SirFinkus> but this is what happens when you stand up to them
[05:06:18] <SirFinkus> http://en.wikipedia.org
[05:06:18] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Qwest
[05:07:26] <SirFinkus> the ceo refused, then the NSA cancelled all the fed contracts and he got arrested for insider trading
[05:07:40] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, I'm familiar with that story.
[05:08:01] <BadCoderFinger> I had a Qwest cell phone at the time.
[05:08:24] <SirFinkus> they were my ISP, rather garbage DSL
[05:08:30] <BadCoderFinger> Sadly, yes.
[05:08:46] <BadCoderFinger> And now that CenturyLink has them, they've not improved.
[05:09:05] <SirFinkus> I have comcast now, they're the devil, but their service has been ok
[05:09:18] <SirFinkus> still need to bitch at them occasionally
[05:09:18] <BadCoderFinger> But it's either that or Comcast, and I've sworn never to give comcast any money.
[05:09:47] <BadCoderFinger> Filtering non-comcast video is pretty sad.
[05:10:06] <SirFinkus> I'm sure centurylink is up to all kinds of evil too
[05:10:08] <SirFinkus> all of them are
[05:10:20] <BadCoderFinger> And I worked with one of the people that made that happen. I wish I'd run him over in the parking lot.
[05:10:40] <SpallsHurgenson> yes but comcast is more cthulhu style evil, where as centurylink is more along the lines of cobra commander type evil :)
[05:10:51] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, but they don't offer video service in my area, so they don't bother filtering Netflix. Yet.
[05:11:12] <SirFinkus> what "filter?"
[05:11:43] <BadCoderFinger> They throttle video.
[05:11:43] <SirFinkus> if you're talking about packet shaping, they got their shit slapped over that pretty hard a few years back
[05:11:58] <SirFinkus> hmm, must be a regional thing
[05:11:59] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah. And they're still doing it.
[05:13:22] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.eurogamer.net japan goes mobile
[05:13:23] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Japan's console market at lowest point for 24 years Eurogamer.net
[05:13:43] <SirFinkus> I haven't noticed any throttling for me, and I do lots of things on this connection that I'm sure they'd rather I didn't
[05:14:05] <BadCoderFinger> In any case, TMB is right, we need competition. Until we get actual competition, regulation would be a stopgap. Not that it will ever happen.
[05:14:40] <SirFinkus> I still think competition is impractical, since you can only really have so many wires hooked up to a house
[05:14:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pokémon Plays Twitch: How a Robot Got IRC Running on an Unmodified SNES - http://sylnt.us - still-twitching
[05:15:47] <SpallsHurgenson> wasn't that story already on soylent?
[05:15:49] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, and the radio spectrum would get saturation pretty fast too.
[05:17:34] <SirFinkus> satellites with laser beams
[05:17:46] <BadCoderFinger> So with competition being impractical, what's left? We've proven that consumers have no bargaining power.
[05:18:02] <SirFinkus> regulation, it's not great, but I don't see an alternative
[05:18:21] <SirFinkus> it's been fairly successful for other utilities
[05:18:22] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, that's where I'm at too.
[05:19:09] <SirFinkus> and really, at the local utility level, individual citizens have quite a bit of power
[05:19:09] <BadCoderFinger> Much like Hollywood film accounting, they'll just redefine the terms in exceedingly small print in the EULA.
[05:19:13] <SirFinkus> if they care enough
[05:20:24] <BadCoderFinger> Yeah, that is something.
[05:20:47] <SpallsHurgenson> sexist and possibly misogynistic maybe but... bewbs http://www.thinkcomputers.org
[05:20:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03CES 2015: The Booth Babes | Computer Hardware Reviews - ThinkComputers.org
[05:22:14] <BadCoderFinger> SirFinkus: If I had a solution, I'd be a better activist!
[05:22:29] <chromas> Totally sexist! I can't believe they don't have mambewbs in the article!
[05:22:40] <chromas> s/m/n/2
[05:22:40] <SedNotABot> <chromas> Totally sexist! I can't believe they don't have manbewbs in the article!
[05:25:39] <SpallsHurgenson> if it would help, I could put up a link to my webcam
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[05:26:10] <BadCoderFinger> Spalls: Seems your looking to make some weekend cash...
[05:26:18] <BadCoderFinger> s/your/you're/
[05:26:18] <SedNotABot> <BadCoderFinger> Spalls: Seems you're looking to make some weekend cash...
[05:26:51] <BadCoderFinger> (As much as I gripe about your/you're then I manage to screw it up. Sigh.)
[05:27:27] <SpallsHurgenson> your write, eye dew that two
[05:27:36] <BadCoderFinger> Ha!
[05:29:04] <SpallsHurgenson> argh. kitty is demanding I play with her again... even though when I actually DO play, she just sits there and looks at me
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[05:42:15] <BadCoderFinger> And while I'm good and irritated at CenturyLink, where is IPv6? It's been "in progress" for more than three years! (Ok, now I'm finished beating the dead horse, sorry.)
[05:43:26] <SirFinkus> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov haha, I love the form letter respons
[05:43:27] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Remove United States District Attorney Carmen Ortiz from office for overreach in the case of Aaron Swartz. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government
[05:45:37] <BadCoderFinger> That's it, next election, I'm voting for a spambot. Why settle for the lesser evil?
[05:46:22] <SirFinkus> I gotta wonder if we made all government decisions with coin flips and dice if we'd be any worse off
[05:46:57] <BadCoderFinger> Maybe we could just have them all call psychic hotlines?
[06:15:13] <Popeidol> and then we get to vote for the coin we want in office for the next term
[06:21:55] <BadCoderFinger> I vote for a coin with lizards on both sides!
[06:28:36] <BadCoderFinger> Gotta run, getting late. Night guys!
[06:28:44] <SirFinkus> night
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[07:11:11] <crutchy_> weird_noodle_combo++
[07:11:11] <Bender> karma - weird_noodle_combo: 1
[07:23:55] <arti> tasty wheat
[07:40:27] <chromas> blue_headlights--
[07:40:27] <Bender> karma - blue_headlights: -1
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[07:57:17] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[07:57:39] <SirFinkus> hello
[07:57:39] <ciri> hi SirFinkus
[07:58:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Check this out Finkus: The girl here I was interested in just admitted that she has a neurodegenerative disease.
[07:58:35] <SirFinkus> what kind?
[07:58:50] <arti> transformers~
[07:58:56] <Ethanol-fueled> something caused by a car accident in which she broke her neck and had to learn how to walk again etc.
[07:59:38] <crutchy_> sounds a bit nasty
[08:00:01] <arti> -17% to any skill rolls
[08:00:07] <crutchy_> car_accidents--
[08:00:07] <Bender> karma - car_accidents: -1
[08:00:39] <Ethanol-fueled> I told her "fuck it, I'm riding you to your grave."
[08:00:49] <crutchy_> does she eat crayons?
[08:00:53] <Ethanol-fueled> She made a joke about making out to Schindler's List.
[08:01:24] <SirFinkus> sounds like a winner
[08:01:26] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah crutchy
[08:01:35] * crutchy_ offers Ethanol-fueleds new squeeze one of his crayons
[08:01:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, I'm going to ride her to the grave.
[08:01:43] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't meet many women like that.
[08:02:06] <crutchy_> you realize shell outlive you now?
[08:02:19] <Ethanol-fueled> how crutchy? Murder?
[08:02:19] <ciri> not sure
[08:02:21] <arti> just use the dark crystal to harvest life
[08:02:27] <crutchy_> better start savin for that ring
[08:02:37] <arti> i think he already has one of those, crutchy
[08:02:53] <crutchy_> Ethanol-fueled: cos you just jinxed yourself :p
[08:02:56] <SirFinkus> you're going to be hit by a drunk driver and you'll both pass into old age as drooling quadriplegics
[08:03:06] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha
[08:03:20] <crutchy_> now shell live another 50 years
[08:03:22] <Ethanol-fueled> it can be like that movie Monkey Shines, where we can both hire a trained monkey to insert myself inside her.
[08:03:36] <crutchy_> oooooook
[08:03:40] <arti> hotdog time
[08:04:20] <crutchy_> after the sparkies leave I gunna polish off a whole block of cadbury snack
[08:04:33] <Ethanol-fueled> If she doesn't turn into a whore and keeps putting out I would be her Chair-wheeler.
[08:05:07] <SirFinkus> only action you'd be getting is scooping the poop out of her ass
[08:05:10] <SirFinkus> they have to do that you know
[08:05:28] <Ethanol-fueled> That's bogus, man.
[08:05:40] <Ethanol-fueled> she can scoop her own poop.
[08:06:02] <SirFinkus> it's true, their muscles don't work
[08:06:15] <Ethanol-fueled> well her hand muscles will continue to.
[08:06:31] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm hoping worst-case she'll be in braces or something.
[08:06:37] <SirFinkus> kinky
[08:06:57] <arti> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[08:07:19] <Ethanol-fueled> She told me she's putting out this Friday, and I'm going to a barbecue with her friends and staying the night at her house. She chose the day specifically so I can sleep in with her.
[08:07:31] <Ethanol-fueled> leg-braces, arti.
[08:10:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Problem with women like that is that they're crazy in unpredictable ways.
[08:11:05] <Ethanol-fueled> We'll see. I may well enter into a relationship with a budding gimp-woman.
[08:12:37] <Ethanol-fueled> If that sounds crazy to you, well, I've dealt with so many stupid goddamn women that dating a smart gimp is preferable.
[08:12:41] * SirFinkus may well enter into a relationship with another oatis
[08:12:55] <Konomi> crutchy_: got your air con back yet?
[08:15:08] Ethanol-fueled is now known as crutchy__
[08:15:15] <crutchy__> no konomi its in me bum.
[08:15:27] crutchy__ is now known as Ethanol-fueled
[08:17:13] <Ethanol-fueled> well, fuggit. I'll keep you guys posted. Just one weird goddamn situation after another.
[08:17:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus Christ won't allow me to have a normal life because he hates me.
[08:17:54] <Ethanol-fueled> He doesn't take kindly to GG allin posters on the walls.
[08:18:16] <SirFinkus> do you like nigel pepper cock?
[08:18:35] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas does, Finkus.
[08:19:15] <SirFinkus> really, or are you just saying that because they have cock in the name?
[08:22:38] <crutchy_> Konomi: nah its dead
[08:23:12] <Konomi> R.I.P
[08:23:16] <Konomi> gotta burry it out back
[08:23:31] <arti> wow, no ac?
[08:23:50] <arti> crutchy->crusty
[08:24:08] <SirFinkus> gotta be rough
[08:24:17] <arti> glistening
[08:24:23] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, no AC? Smell your missus' underarms and describe the scent to us. \
[08:24:50] <arti> excessive adjectives please
[08:25:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, be specific.
[08:25:13] <arti> superlative forms, too.
[08:25:48] <Ethanol-fueled> I l***** the u******** of that lady from El Centro who was also the one with the s** c******* s******* with b****
[08:26:14] <Ethanol-fueled> It tasted like cucumber, but I was able to get some of her musk as well.
[08:26:46] <Ethanol-fueled> She dint jump or nuthin'.
[08:28:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, that was amazing. And now, I got m*** on my f****** and can't stop s******* i*
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[08:29:38] <Ethanol-fueled> I shook her friends' hands with that m*** on my h*****
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[08:30:32] <chromas> censorship--
[08:30:32] <Bender> karma - censorship: -1
[08:30:34] <Ethanol-fueled> They shook my hands like a boss. And I didn't even w*** my h**** before I s****** p***** with dat m*** on dem.
[08:30:35] <chromas> censorshit--
[08:30:35] <Bender> karma - censorshit: -1
[08:31:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahahheeheehoooo!
[08:32:15] * crutchy_ wonders if Ethanol-fueled is aware of the accepted definition of 'boofing'
[08:32:31] * chromas returns Ethanol-fueled's Ni*** P***e* *ock
[08:33:03] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, is that the Aussie/Brit term for Tapping?
[08:33:07] <Ethanol-fueled> f******?
[08:33:26] <crutchy_> apparently not
[08:34:03] <crutchy_> its a err... odd.... sort of activity
[08:34:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I shook two of her friends' hands with n**** g** on my f****** and I'm going to grill out with both of those friends tomorrow.
[08:34:32] <chromas> we can't look it up because exec was murdered by jesus
[08:34:41] <Ethanol-fueled> damned Jesus.
[08:34:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Ugh, way past bedtime.
[08:34:51] <chromas> he's the one with the lightning, right?
[08:35:06] <chromas> ~define jesus
[08:35:09] <chromas> oh yeah
[08:35:24] <Ethanol-fueled> bye bye all. Keep you updated. I wish I was joking about my exploits, but I'm infatuated with a cripple.
[08:35:38] <chromas> T-Timmeh!
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[08:36:29] <crutchy_> does tmbs kicker script work?
[08:36:34] <Konomi> yes ;p
[08:36:54] <chromas> =say .kick chromas
[08:36:54] <Hedonismbot> .kick chromas
[08:36:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
[08:36:58] <chromas> =say .kick Hedonismbot
[08:36:59] <Hedonismbot> .kick Hedonismbot
[08:36:59] <Konomi> hehe
[08:37:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kick Hedonismbot Your wish is my command.
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[08:37:10] <Konomi> ha
[08:37:32] <chromas> could do it as a message to chanserv; that way nobody knows who did it
[08:37:34] <Konomi> anyway when are they replacing your stuffs crutchy_ ?
[08:37:51] <crutchy_> nfi
[08:37:56] <chromas> :(
[08:37:58] <Konomi> sounds awesome...
[08:38:04] <Konomi> so you're stuck without air con for how long?
[08:38:12] <chromas> I guess you'll just have to get naked
[08:38:16] <chromas> pics or it didn't happen, crutchy_
[08:39:12] <crutchy_> sparkies been and gone. not sure whats wrong with lights
[08:39:50] <crutchy_> have to wait I guess :/
[08:41:40] <crutchy_> will be harder for missus and kids. the ac at work makes the office fkin cold
[08:41:59] <chromas> save some in a bottle to take home
[08:42:02] <SirFinkus> today's guitar lesson https://www.youtube.com
[08:42:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Whiplash Movie CLIP - Rushing or Dragging (2014) - Miles Teller, JK Simmons Movie HD - YouTube
[08:42:06] <Konomi> any possiblity of getting a temporary portable unit?
[08:42:09] <Konomi> or say a high speed an
[08:42:12] <Konomi> fan*
[08:42:55] <SirFinkus> look at swamp coolers, should be easy to improvise one
[08:43:15] <ar> get a fan and a tray full of ice
[08:43:22] <ar> (or a bucket)
[08:43:44] <SirFinkus> it should be fairly effective in low humidity places
[08:45:17] <crutchy_> we have a high speed fan
[08:45:36] <crutchy_> and a kiddy pool :p
[08:46:32] <crutchy_> missus says she mentioned the dead stuff to the adsessor but he didnt know or something. just gotta wait
[08:46:57] <SirFinkus> a wet towel over the intake of the fan can work somewhat
[08:47:07] <SirFinkus> the water evaporates and cools the towel
[08:47:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Proof of Concept - Compromise Mac Firmware via Thunderbolt - http://sylnt.us - sooner-or-later
[08:47:36] <SirFinkus> in your heat, I imagine you'd be re-wetting the towel every 5 minutes though
[08:48:01] <crutchy_> theres always cold shower or escaping to someone elses house that has ac :p
[08:48:26] <crutchy_> its sposed to be not too bad for next week
[08:49:12] <SirFinkus> anything over like 25 is "too bad" for me
[09:03:07] <Popeidol> 25 is borderline chilly
[09:05:37] <crutchy_> 25 is perfect
[09:06:55] <swiss> it's like, 75 here
[09:07:06] <ar> 25°C is a bit too hot
[09:07:19] <ar> 18-23 is perfect
[09:12:07] <crutchy_> .kick crutchy_
[09:12:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kick crutchy_ Your wish is my command.
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[09:16:30] <Konomi> I've noticed everytime a browser has a do not track header
[09:16:35] <Konomi> sites conviently display messages like
[09:16:46] <Konomi> "By continuing to browse this site you accept our cookie policy etc"
[09:16:52] <Konomi> so much for that ;p
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[09:37:58] <crutchy__> I wonder if I can programmerize my fone
[09:44:32] <crutchy__> ooh. installing "server for php" from play
[09:47:41] <swiss> http://www.castleos.com this interests me
[09:47:42] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03CastleOS - Smart Living Made Brilliant
[09:51:15] <crutchy__> yay im making a cuppa using my phone to see :/
[09:53:49] <crutchy__> im back in the dark ages bahahahaha!!!!
[10:06:35] <crutchy__> ah oh I found a terminal emulator and a git client
[10:07:08] <crutchy__> can we get an exec_droid
[10:19:33] <chromas> put a bittorrent client on it and set it near someone's open wifi
[10:22:06] <chromas> ~define hosting telesystems network
[10:28:52] <crutchy__> im trying to find where the repo was cloned to :/
[10:29:12] <chromas> You could cheat and download a zip of the files
[10:48:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Zoo where they Lock the Visitors inside Cages - http://sylnt.us - everyone-is-safer-this-way
[10:50:14] <SirFinkus> economist linked to the images, but didn't host or embed any of them in the article
[10:50:27] <SirFinkus> still better than most of the other places I've seen
[10:58:56] <crutchy__> hmm. found repo but not sure where php cli is
[10:59:37] <crutchy__> assuming I have it. play store seems to have a few web servers
[11:02:06] <SirFinkus> oh wow, props to fox news
[11:02:19] <SirFinkus> they published them, along with the danish ones for further context
[11:02:45] * SirFinkus gains slight respect for them
[11:04:22] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[11:04:26] <SirFinkus> like, they went all out
[11:06:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:06:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 957
[11:07:37] <crutchy__> .kick 0
[11:07:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
[11:07:43] <crutchy__> aww
[11:07:53] <crutchy__> .kick butt
[11:07:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
[11:07:58] <SirFinkus> ABC also cowards
[11:08:06] <crutchy__> .kick myself
[11:08:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
[11:08:10] <SirFinkus> that's american abc, not australian
[11:08:59] <crutchy__> .kick #soylent
[11:09:12] <crutchy__> ?
[11:09:34] <crutchy__> maybe I used up my three strikes
[11:10:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, you just found the else bit of the if/elsif/else
[11:10:28] <SirFinkus> good job Australia, ABC Kangaroo version has images of the prophet
[11:10:43] <crutchy__> ooh are there any other secret hidy holes?
[11:11:33] <SirFinkus> who else should I check?
[11:11:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a self-kicker only. the else is for if it contains illegal nick characters
[11:13:52] <SirFinkus> time magazine (the website) has the photos
[11:14:29] <SirFinkus> newsweek too
[11:14:33] * SirFinkus is heartened
[11:14:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito heartened
[11:14:51] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at heartened
[11:15:26] <SirFinkus> although pictures of people holding up pictures of the covers in solidarity seems like a cop out
[11:15:42] <SirFinkus> fox is still the only one that posted the actual image and not a picture of a guy holding something
[11:16:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess they're the only ones who pass the media nut-check
[11:17:30] <SirFinkus> I haven't decided if the pictures are a cop out or not yet
[11:19:06] <SirFinkus> really, it should be the second picture in any of these articles
[11:19:18] <SirFinkus> first one is the mugshot, next one is the cartoon in question
[11:19:29] <SirFinkus> or a sample of one of the cartoons
[11:19:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> THAT is islamophobia. disliking a religion that people are killed every day in the name of is simple realism.
[11:20:12] <SirFinkus> if it was any other story, I'd be sick of seeing the images in question by now
[11:20:41] <SirFinkus> since it's kind of the "why" in the whole who what where when why thing
[11:21:35] <SirFinkus> islamophobia is a stupid term anyway
[11:22:51] <SirFinkus> anyway, I'm dumb being pissed off for the night (err, morning)
[11:22:55] <SirFinkus> sleep time
[11:23:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[11:27:41] <crutchy__> .kick TheMightyBuzzard
[11:27:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
[11:27:47] <crutchy__> hehe
[11:28:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, i'd hafta load a new client. .kick works on anyone from me.
[11:29:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause bender gots teh lub of me
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[11:30:28] <crutchy_> coffee++
[11:30:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 958
[11:32:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> damned straight
[11:32:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:32:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 959
[11:32:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> freakin pipes in my travel trailer froze up last night cause i didn't have the water dripping enough.
[11:33:16] <chromas> ooh, maybe sometimes, instead of "I'm sorry", it could kick the .kicker
[11:33:55] <chromas> Our winter sucks
[11:34:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> it will if they use their own nick
[11:34:23] <chromas> it's 36° outside now :(
[11:34:30] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: I mean for other nicks :)
[11:34:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[11:34:50] <chromas> so if I .kick crutchy_, then it might decide to /kick chromas instead
[11:35:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> might put a counter in later and have it do so after a random number of attempts
[11:35:27] <chromas> unnecessary_features++
[11:35:27] <Bender> karma - unnecessary_features: 1
[11:35:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> definitely going to add one in for trying to .kick me
[11:36:27] <chromas> if (random(3) = 0) kick $nick
[11:36:28] <crutchy_> moar botness!
[11:37:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> would have added it to botctl but i don't want it having any actual power
[11:37:37] <crutchy_> but but but...
[11:37:54] <chromas> botctl could pm you with the details and a special token, then your script will verify it and then execute
[11:38:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy_: s/u/o/
[11:38:03] <SedNotABot> <TheMightyBuzzard> <crutchy_> bot but but...
[11:38:05] <crutchy_> it can have bot biffos with aqu4
[11:38:15] <chromas> Rube Goldberg botchine
[11:38:39] <crutchy_> an old fashioned stand off
[11:38:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, bots shouldn't have privs unless they actually serve a useful purpose.
[11:39:18] <chromas> gasp! juggler is a bot
[11:39:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggler serves a purpose.
[11:39:45] * chromas praises juggler and tips hat; please to boot me :|
[11:39:53] <crutchy_> without exec how would be spew forth all the chewy goodness of urban dictionary?
[11:40:00] <crutchy_> *we
[11:40:10] <chromas> having ud withdrawal now
[11:40:15] <chromas> ud-d
[11:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> exactly like we do right now
[11:40:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause we are without exec
[11:40:29] <chromas> it's sad, isn't it
[11:41:08] <crutchy_> I spose eth is a kind of ud personified
[11:41:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i can't ~weather and show you lot that it's 10F right now and i'd have to look up what that is in C
[11:41:38] <crutchy_> ciri can convert it for you:)
[11:41:44] <chromas> .f2c 10
[11:41:45] <ciri> Converted 10 Fahrenheit => -12.2232 Celsius
[11:41:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ciri is on ignore
[11:41:59] <crutchy_> .f2c 10
[11:42:01] <ciri> Converted 10 Fahrenheit => -12.2232 Celsius
[11:42:07] <chromas> poor ciri
[11:42:11] <crutchy_> 12.2 deg c
[11:42:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> bots that spew random bullshit must die
[11:42:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas not right. should be a negative number
[11:42:46] * chromas slowly backs away
[11:42:50] <crutchy_> lol. dont recommend visiting # then
[11:42:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, thas why i avoid it
[11:42:59] <chromas> it's negative twelve
[11:43:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'fookin cold whatever letter you put after the number.
[11:43:43] <crutchy_> oh yeah. im stupider than ciri
[11:44:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i gotta go thaw out the outside faucet soon as the sun comes up.
[11:44:06] <crutchy_> stupid tiny phone screeny thingy
[11:44:29] <crutchy_> yeah that would suck
[11:44:35] <crutchy_> I hate cold
[11:44:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully the travel trailer freezing up didn't cause it to bust a pipe in the house cause that would really blow.
[11:46:49] <crutchy_> ciri is professing the finer points of fart capsules
[11:48:18] <crutchy_> cold is depressing. I dunno how you guys cope wirh minus deg cs
[11:49:11] <chromas> That's where F comes in handy
[11:49:22] <chromas> when the value is negative, you know it sucks
[11:50:06] <crutchy_> ah so farenheit purs a positive spin on negative temperatures
[11:50:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i stay inside
[11:50:18] <crutchy_> *puts
[11:50:32] <chromas> 0–100 means it's okay
[11:50:39] <chromas> anything outside = :(
[11:51:07] <crutchy_> oh man thats even more decimalized than celcius
[11:51:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, we pass outside that range every year in oklahoma
[11:51:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> on both ends
[11:51:35] <chromas> and that's why you have indoor computers
[11:51:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly, and heat pumps.
[11:51:52] <crutchy_> nothing worse than when it goes out both ends
[11:52:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab crutchy_
[11:52:02] <Bender> Added quote 339
[11:53:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[11:55:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> shame i designed botctl to only pay attention to properly prefixed code for its volatile bits.
[11:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> was going to have it pay grope on !grab
[11:56:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/pay //
[11:56:34] <SedNotABot> <TheMightyBuzzard> was going to have it grope on !grab
[11:57:52] <crutchy_> or grope on nograb :p
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[11:59:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like right now it only does join/part/klingon
[12:00:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> in reloadable stuff anyway.
[12:00:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could overwrite the static said method but i'd have to type it ALL out again and i don't wanna. i like that bit being static.
[12:02:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> guess i could move a lot of the static stuff to volatile though.
[12:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now i think it's time for video games though
[12:08:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> hack n slash rather than hack in bash
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[13:20:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - F.B.I. Has No Doubt tWhat North Korea Attacked Sony, says Director - http://sylnt.us - numbers-don't-lie
[13:51:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - F.B.I. Has No Doubt that North Korea Attacked Sony, says Director - http://sylnt.us - numbers-don't-lie
[14:20:46] <Konomi> I think I have no doubt that the fbi is full of shit
[14:26:58] <Konomi> oh paypal has an important legal update to tell me about
[14:27:10] <Konomi> I guess they want the fabric type as well as the colour of my panties now
[14:27:33] <Konomi> (I am so sick of them changing their legal agreements I should start a collection)
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[15:22:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ferguson Grand Juror Sues Prosecutor for Deception and Gag Order in Darren Wilson Case - http://sylnt.us - pants-on-fire
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[17:07:29] <ar> http://openssl.org - the ride never ends
[17:10:55] <Blackmoore> ah software.. the only way to make it infallable is to have it do nothing
[17:11:16] <Blackmoore> An OpenSSL server will accept a DH certificate for client authentication without the certificate verify message. This effectively allows a client to authenticate without the use of a private key. This only affects servers which trust a client certificate authority which issues certificates containing DH keys: these are extremely rare and hardly ever encountered.
[17:11:26] <Blackmoore> and this is marked "low"
[17:23:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Danish Wind Energy has Record Year - http://sylnt.us - that's-a-blow
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[18:33:17] <mechanicjay> Rule #1: Give a user a tool and they will find a way to misuse it.
[18:33:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[18:34:40] <mechanicjay> Please don't put 2GB worth of videos into git, then check it out to the webserver, which takes up 4GB on disk (one for the files, one for the pack in the .git file).
[18:35:31] <swiss> lololol
[18:35:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> to be fair, we admins misuse our tools too but they're OUR tools
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[19:25:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK's Ofcom Might Deal with Badly Behaved Power Line Networks - http://sylnt.us - or-so-current-thinking-suggests
[20:09:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.smithsonianmag.com
[20:09:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Female Computer Scientists Make the Same Salary as Their Male Counterparts | Smart News | Smithsonian
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[21:01:57] <crutchy> ++coffee
[21:01:57] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 210
[21:03:46] <swiss> i find beer brewing really interesting, though i have no interest in beer
[21:08:21] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[21:08:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 960
[21:08:39] <Blackmoore> i'm no fan of RPN
[21:09:02] <Blackmoore> swiss: how about mead?
[21:10:37] <swiss> i can drink a tiny amount
[21:10:46] <swiss> well, i've only had honey mead
[21:10:52] <swiss> but it was way sweet.
[21:26:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Curiosity Rover Finds Reminents of Microbial Activity on Mars - http://sylnt.us - studying-suspicious-sedimentary-structures
[21:30:42] <chromas> crutchy: is exec on android now?
[21:34:24] <Blackmoore> hmm. yeah mead is made from Honey. of course you can make that less sweet if you let more of the sugar ferment into alcohol
[21:45:38] <swiss> i like ciders
[21:45:45] <swiss> but i don't have a real urge to brew my own stuff
[21:45:48] <swiss> i just like the science
[21:51:07] <Blackmoore> I'd like to brew but i dont trust the microbial fauna in my house. when bread goes green in days you might just have a mold problem.
[21:51:37] <Blackmoore> but i have many friends who do. Meads, beers, wines.
[22:57:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sorry iPhone Users: Apple’s Dev Agreement Means No EFF Mobile App for iOS - http://sylnt.us - walled-garden
[23:00:00] <SirFinkus> that's why 95% of brewing is cleaning shit
[23:27:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that's only 5%. 94% is waiting. only 1% is actually doing brewing shit.
[23:58:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wind Trees Scaveng Small Winds for Lighting - http://sylnt.us - blowing-in-the-wind