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[00:29:30] * Konomi awakens from her slumber
[00:29:55] * JamesNZ hides crutchy's pants
[00:30:18] <Konomi> yay the odor is gone
[00:30:20] * crutchy wraps himself up in a towel
[00:30:39] <crutchy> my laptop smells like mozzie coil
[00:30:54] <crutchy> mmmm smells goooood
[00:31:18] <Konomi> why not to let crutchy touch your computer bits
[00:31:35] <Konomi> I really wish the maintainers of various kde packages in debian would stop being so freaking lazy
[00:31:43] <Konomi> second bug I've patched in one of thier packages
[00:32:13] * JamesNZ hugs his beloved Fedora <3
[00:32:33] <crutchy> xfce++
[00:32:33] <Bender> karma - xfce: 7
[00:32:35] <Konomi> will never get peoples obsession with that hat
[00:33:20] <JamesNZ> Heh :)
[00:33:25] <crutchy> i'll prolly stick with debian, despite all the systemd nonsense
[00:33:44] <JamesNZ> Not going to switch to devuan?
[00:34:10] <Konomi> I always wanted to trust a bunch of people who are not for things
[00:34:19] <Konomi> I'll definitly let them host my system packages
[00:34:19] <crutchy> yeah i'll pass
[00:34:31] <Konomi> also debian has a non end maintainer build system
[00:34:56] <Konomi> about 2 years ago it used to be which ever maintainer compiled the package on their personal machine is the one that went into the repos
[00:34:59] <Konomi> no more ;p
[00:35:14] <crutchy> i'm still banned from #debianfork, so if i use their OS they might ban me from my own pyewta :p
[00:35:32] <JamesNZ> Why were you banned?
[00:35:36] <Konomi> you shouldn't have told them you hada fedora
[00:35:43] <JamesNZ> :D
[00:35:58] * JamesNZ sticks a blue fedora on crutchy
[00:36:12] <crutchy> i suggested competing with systemd rather than trying to fork an entire operating system
[00:36:21] <crutchy> silly me
[00:36:37] <Konomi> go full au fedora
[00:36:39] <Konomi> http://www.getkooky.com.au
[00:36:45] <crutchy> i was prolly being a jerk. i can't remember tbh
[00:36:46] <Konomi> oh wait that's for girls
[00:36:48] <Konomi> oh well
[00:36:48] <Konomi> ;p
[00:36:48] <JamesNZ> Wait, isn't that exactly what devaun is all about?
[00:37:11] <Konomi> I'm not sure what devaun is trying to do
[00:37:21] <Konomi> they want to fork debian but I don't see how that is even possible
[00:37:37] <Konomi> they should've just pushed themselves as a debian based distro
[00:37:46] <Konomi> but they probably wanted to cash in on all the nerd rage
[00:37:51] <JamesNZ> I thought it was debian sans systemd. Evidently I've stayed under my rock too long :P
[00:38:01] <Konomi> you can already do that on debian oddly
[00:38:12] <Konomi> just install sysvinit instead
[00:38:21] <Konomi> and avoid the DEs that use logind
[00:38:25] <Konomi> and you won't need it...
[00:38:26] <juggs> Konomi!
[00:38:33] <crutchy> something like uselessd seemed like a logical alternative
[00:38:38] <JamesNZ> I'd imagine that's easier said than done?
[00:38:49] <Konomi> prett ysure if you go xfce in debian you can stay entirely away from systemd
[00:38:49] <crutchy> but they weren't much interested in that kind of heresy
[00:39:00] <JamesNZ> Konomi: Ah.
[00:39:01] <Konomi> hey juggs
[00:39:12] <JamesNZ> Toe the line crutchy!
[00:39:17] <juggs> damn it - I was hoping for a "mew" :P
[00:39:18] <Konomi> they just seem like angry man childs to me tbh
[00:39:23] <crutchy> all the good bits of xfce use dbus as well Konomi
[00:39:26] * Konomi mews and flicks her ear?
[00:39:28] <JamesNZ> Mew!
[00:39:30] <Konomi> anyway
[00:39:41] <juggs> that'll do
[00:39:41] <crutchy> reow!
[00:39:58] <JamesNZ> s/reow/rawr/
[00:40:06] <crutchy> rit rear!
[00:40:21] <Konomi> I don't see the point tbh
[00:40:31] <Konomi> and I love how the whole project is reactionary
[00:40:32] <crutchy> of dbus?
[00:40:36] <crutchy> oh yeah
[00:40:47] <crutchy> they prolly still arguing about the name
[00:40:51] <Konomi> didn't see them putting up their hand when all the talk about inits were floating around
[00:40:59] <Konomi> it was only after systemd started picking up adoption
[00:41:17] <crutchy> epoch is getting some love, which is good
[00:41:23] <Konomi> be like SN waiting for slashdot to go beta then making another version that was like beta
[00:41:23] <ciri> where you going? Konomi
[00:41:26] <JamesNZ> epoch++
[00:41:26] <Bender> karma - epoch: 7
[00:41:26] <Konomi> fixored it!
[00:42:01] <crutchy> though i'm wondering whether they just gunna start demanding Subsentient make changes and then call him a poettering when he says no
[00:42:14] <Konomi> I hope not
[00:42:17] <crutchy> same
[00:42:47] <Konomi> if they harass Subsentient we should burn them an effigy
[00:42:57] <JamesNZ> Indeed.
[00:43:10] <chromas> Without the effigy
[00:43:15] <Konomi> aww
[00:43:16] <JamesNZ> Off with their heads!
[00:43:33] * Konomi puts away the paint cans
[00:43:47] <chromas> String 'em up with the others
[00:43:55] <crutchy> we can mass flood their channels with botzors hosted on all albertos ip addresses :p
[00:44:29] <crutchy> actually that might be a bit far :p
[00:44:50] * crutchy puts head in front on the AC
[00:44:51] <Konomi> we could just let them lend EF
[00:44:58] <crutchy> lol
[00:44:59] <ciri> rofl
[00:45:31] <crutchy> yay 38 degrees outside now :/
[00:45:33] <JamesNZ> LOL XD
[00:45:34] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[00:45:37] <JamesNZ> Konomi++
[00:45:37] <Bender> karma - konomi: 39
[00:45:49] <JamesNZ> Shut up ciri.
[00:46:15] <Konomi> ciri does not approve of my funny
[00:46:25] <Konomi> hash tag sad face
[00:46:27] * Konomi runs for it
[00:46:45] <crutchy> aw you keep picking on it. poor ciri ;p
[00:47:12] <Konomi> should've gave it the sad card personality
[00:47:17] <Konomi> then it wouldn't get picked on so much
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[00:52:33] <crutchy> filled up the paddle pool on the deck thismorning. looking forward to hopping in later
[00:53:35] <Konomi> bbiab ;p
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[01:42:54] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I guess you're all wondering why I've called you here. It's to announce the name of the murderer... and it is one of the people in this room! :)
[01:43:11] <swiss> lol
[01:43:11] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[01:43:55] <crutchy> 39 deg here. too hot to bother killing anybody :/
[01:44:21] <SpallsHurgenson> in recognition of the new year, I've decide to take everybody who was on ignore, off ignore.
[01:44:31] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: who was on ignore?
[01:44:36] <swiss> EF, and who else?
[01:44:38] <SpallsHurgenson> I am also taking bets as to how long they will stay off ignore :)
[01:44:41] <Konomi> ha
[01:44:51] <SpallsHurgenson> ciri and poutine :)
[01:44:57] <Subsentient> $burrito SpallsHurgenson
[01:44:57] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at SpallsHurgenson
[01:45:20] <SpallsHurgenson> and ciri's already on first notice :) :)
[01:45:32] <swiss> lol
[01:45:41] <swiss> ciri can be annoying as hell, but she's a funny bot
[01:45:44] <crutchy> you've missed out on all the arguments between ciri and poutine!?
[01:45:54] <swiss> poutine--
[01:45:54] <Bender> karma - poutine: -371
[01:46:13] <Subsentient> crutchy: Konomi JamesNZ chromas: For some reason it makes me feel appreciated that you bothered to be upset if anyone called me a Poettering.
[01:46:17] <SpallsHurgenson> ciri must've evolved a lot since I ignored her then
[01:46:34] <Konomi> hehe
[01:46:49] <crutchy> Subsentient, one of us.. one of us.. :D
[01:46:59] <swiss> my favorite bot is in another channel... i don't even recall which... but it corrects you on common misspellings
[01:47:08] <Subsentient> JOIN US. JOIN US. JOIN US.
[01:47:29] <Konomi> mmn unix porn subreddit is so nice
[01:47:29] * Subsentient hugs aqu4
[01:47:36] <SpallsHurgenson> swiss: throw in grammar correction and I'm in love :)
[01:47:39] <Konomi> though apparently everything is prefix-porn these days
[01:47:42] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: lol
[01:47:43] * aqu4 hugs Subsentient back
[01:47:47] <Konomi> shrugs
[01:47:54] <juggs> It was Mr White in the Library with the Lead Pipe!
[01:47:57] <swiss> also, i bought the lightpack
[01:48:03] <swiss> i think it's awesome
[01:48:17] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: :)
[01:48:18] <swiss> can now give answers to any questions concerning it
[01:48:22] * SpallsHurgenson googles lightpack
[01:48:40] <SpallsHurgenson> hmm... ambient backlighting.
[01:48:51] <swiss> yep. That can react to what's on screen
[01:49:03] <swiss> i took a 7s video with anime on screen, since that has fast bright colors
[01:49:13] <swiss> and lots of solids, so it's clear what color is being detected
[01:49:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I've considered that... but I'd probably need more wall... and definitely need more outlets :)
[01:49:26] <swiss> i have a long power strip
[01:49:31] <swiss> and it facehuggers the back of your TV
[01:49:39] <SpallsHurgenson> I have power strips in power strips :)
[01:49:44] <swiss> http://youtu.be
[01:49:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Lightpack - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[01:49:47] <crutchy> unix porn?
[01:49:51] <swiss> i have a 5' power strip
[01:49:55] <swiss> it's nearly full
[01:50:04] * juggs looks away
[01:50:05] <SpallsHurgenson> if I turn on all my computer as the same time, the lights dim :)
[01:50:09] <crutchy> ~add-to-profile konomi likes unix pr0nz wtf?
[01:50:43] <crutchy> swiss, you can compete with ethanol-fueled :p
[01:50:55] <SpallsHurgenson> (actually, that may not be true anymore; damn energy star efficiencies!)
[01:51:18] <swiss> for what
[01:51:29] <Konomi> oh god I have discovered something truely horrible
[01:51:34] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[01:51:34] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Balls Need Space: a Manspreading Anthem by DJ Very Low Credit Score - YouTube
[01:51:35] <Konomi> nsfw
[01:51:38] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com
[01:51:41] <Konomi> not safe for your sanity
[01:51:55] <swiss> you can see how the right is more purple cause the screen is more purple
[01:51:59] <Konomi> definitly nsfw
[01:52:02] <SpallsHurgenson> looks good swiss.
[01:52:03] * Konomi reinterates
[01:52:13] <crutchy> not opening cos kiddies are near
[01:52:15] <SpallsHurgenson> see, you have wall space. walls are important
[01:52:19] <swiss> unfortunately, it doesn't decode HDMI realtime :( so it has to be on a computer hooked to the TV
[01:52:41] <crutchy> Konomi, thanks for heads up
[01:52:47] <SpallsHurgenson> how many units is that?
[01:52:48] <ciri> you talking to me?
[01:52:49] <swiss> mine's an rpi, but I don't like to use it, so i mostly use the phone app for hyperion to set it to a warm white
[01:53:08] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: 10 3-led strips, what comes standard with 1 unit
[01:53:36] <SpallsHurgenson> seems a bit pricy for ambient lighting; I think I'll wait for it to drop down in price :)
[01:53:40] <crutchy> mm 39 deg C with 14% humididy :/
[01:54:03] <crutchy> whats it like your way Konomi?
[01:54:24] <SpallsHurgenson> <grrrr>and here I'm wishing for 39 deg F
[01:54:38] <Konomi> 39.2
[01:54:38] <swiss> Konomi: is... that a guy?
[01:54:47] <Konomi> she's a girl ;p
[01:54:51] <swiss> okay, i thought so
[01:55:00] * SpallsHurgenson fires up a few more computers to heat up the room
[01:55:22] <SpallsHurgenson> so she says, but this is the Internet (and worse, IRC), and you know what they say :)
[01:55:36] <Konomi> I thought you were all gophers myself
[01:55:40] <Konomi> I feel betrayed I tell you
[01:55:56] <crutchy> i'm a french poodle
[01:56:05] <SpallsHurgenson> on IRC, where the men are men, the women are men, and the 8-year old girls are FBI agents :)
[01:56:11] <crutchy> ...with breasts
[01:56:55] * Konomi edges away from crutchy
[01:57:03] * SpallsHurgenson edges closer to crutchy
[01:57:09] <swiss> Konomi: OH MY GOSH IT GOT WORSE
[01:57:13] * crutchy exchanges towel for pants
[01:57:16] <Konomi> yes yes it does
[01:57:23] * SpallsHurgenson edges away from crutchy
[01:57:37] * Konomi is pro gender equality but that video makes her skin crawl
[01:58:01] <swiss> yeah...
[01:58:16] <Konomi> I just had to spread the horrible
[01:58:20] <Konomi> ;p
[01:58:52] <SpallsHurgenson> 9 seconds into the video and I quit :)
[01:58:55] <Konomi> ha look at her other videos ont he side
[01:59:03] <Konomi> completely different look
[02:00:45] <crutchy> are we talking about nixiepixel?
[02:00:57] <Konomi> https://twitter.com
[02:00:57] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Kurt Opsahl on Twitter: "Zuse Z1 - first computer or scale model of futuristic cityscape? http://t.co"
[02:01:01] <Konomi> crutchy: no ;p
[02:02:01] <SpallsHurgenson> the first computer had plexiglass shields?
[02:06:51] <SpallsHurgenson> oh... its a mechanical 'puter. wouldn't the prize for "first mechanocal computer" that go to the Antikythera device or babbages difference engine?
[02:08:05] <SpallsHurgenson> <sigh> I'm gonna end up on another wiki-walk, aren't I?
[02:11:44] <Konomi> do the walk do the wiki-walk
[02:13:14] <JamesNZ> ♪ Walk walk walk your browser gently through the wiki ♪♪
[02:13:31] * juggs shuffles
[02:14:01] <swiss> get on the floor
[02:14:05] <swiss> everyone walk the wiki-saur
[02:14:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I'll just end up reading about cartoons again. that's where all my wiki-walks eventually end up for some reason :)
[02:14:49] <SpallsHurgenson> all things lead to bugs bunny
[02:15:07] <swiss> i've never read that wiki article
[02:15:41] <JamesNZ> looneytunes++
[02:15:42] <Bender> karma - looneytunes: 1
[02:15:59] <crutchy> loony-soylents :p
[02:16:08] <JamesNZ> :D
[02:22:53] <Leebert> Pen and Teller tonight. W00t.
[02:26:32] <SpallsHurgenson> can I get a woot-woot?
[02:28:17] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently not
[02:29:48] <crutchy> hehe. they'
[02:29:52] <crutchy> re pretty funny
[02:30:05] <Konomi> nope
[02:30:10] <Konomi> I will not conform for you!
[02:30:29] <Konomi> I love how they did that one recyling ep
[02:30:33] <Konomi> that turned out to be completely wrong
[02:30:46] <Leebert> Never seen them before. I expect greatness.
[02:31:02] <JamesNZ> $beer SpallsHurgenson
[02:31:02] * aqu4 gives SpallsHurgenson a cold can of beer
[02:31:03] <Konomi> felt like watching crack pots
[02:31:10] <Konomi> their other stuff is okay though
[02:32:51] <Konomi> their basic arguement was recyling would never take off cause it cost more to recycle than it did to make it new
[02:33:16] <Konomi> they never factored in inflation though
[02:35:13] <Konomi> so when you watch the ep now
[02:35:18] <Konomi> it makes them look nutso ;p
[02:40:06] <Konomi> http://rationalwiki.org
[02:40:11] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Penn & Teller
[02:44:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New US Sanctions for North Korea Following Sony Hack - http://sylnt.us - tidy-narratives
[02:51:33] <crutchy> pretty soon USA gunna have sanctions on everyone
[02:53:59] <swiss> http://imgur.com
[02:54:00] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Bond On a Budget: Affordable Skyfall Inspired Looks - Imgur
[03:16:07] <crutchy> hehe i tried Konomi's trick on the #devuan title bot... pwnage :p
[03:18:16] <Konomi> ;p
[03:45:13] * SpallsHurgenson scratches himself
[03:46:18] <crutchy> ~weather
[03:46:20] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC - currently 105°F / 41°C, partly cloudy, wind NW at 12 mph, humidity 34% - Saturday partly cloudy (64°F-103°F / 18°C-39°C), Sunday chance of rain (56°F-80°F / 13°C-27°C), Monday clear (63°F-86°F / 17°C-30°C), Tuesday chance of showers (65°F-86°F / 18°C-30°C) - source: Google
[03:46:27] <crutchy> :(
[03:54:43] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah yeah yeah, keep rubbing it in
[03:55:39] * SpallsHurgenson gets the president to sanction staylia for having nicer weather... just see what that does to your boomerang exports!
[03:56:02] <crutchy> i dunno if i would call it 'nice'
[03:56:10] <crutchy> you can have it :p
[03:56:26] <SpallsHurgenson> is a polar bear eating your foot? No? then it's nice!
[03:59:18] <SpallsHurgenson> and that was my second favorite foot too!
[03:59:24] <crutchy> prolly just gunna get mcd's for dinner tonight
[04:00:46] <SpallsHurgenson> don't do it!
[04:01:09] <SpallsHurgenson> look, a dog popped on the sidewalk! eat that instead! it's healthier and probably tastes better too!
[04:01:55] <Konomi> you first SpallsHurgenson
[04:02:27] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, I'm not the one going to McDonalds
[04:06:46] <JamesNZ> Am I the only one who thinks the Darkmail guys totally ripped off the the Thunderbird logo?
[04:08:18] <crutchy> i don't mind mc'd fries. they make a mighty angus burger that is tolerable too
[04:12:01] <Konomi> using a service for security
[04:12:07] <Konomi> much what
[04:14:18] * SpallsHurgenson does not see the resemblance in logos (other than both use an envelope)
[04:15:51] <JamesNZ> Both birds (which have oddly similar feathers) curl around said envelope.
[04:16:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I must be looking at a different darkmail logo
[04:17:33] <SpallsHurgenson> only one I see is a black envelope
[04:19:07] <JamesNZ> Oh, I was looking at the one in their PDF.
[04:19:50] <SpallsHurgenson> ah, I see.
[04:21:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I guess there is some resemblance, but birds have been used as postal symbols before thunderbird (see USPO for instance). I don't think its that much of a rip off
[04:23:18] <Popeidol> if you use a bird in your logo, I think you should be required to deliver things via bird
[04:23:24] <Popeidol> or else it's just false advertising
[04:23:42] <crutchy> you mean there's no foxes in firefox!?
[04:24:32] <Popeidol> no, but I'm pretty sure osx mountain lion ate my ferret one time
[04:24:33] <SpallsHurgenson> thunderbird supports RFC 1149 :)
[04:24:33] <crutchy> and i don't have to handle windows with care so as not to break it?
[04:24:50] <crutchy> hmm actually the windows one might still be the casre
[04:27:00] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[04:32:06] <crutchy> feck. aand i thought it was warm inside :/
[04:32:20] <crutchy> still 41
[04:37:03] <JamesNZ> Celsius?
[04:38:18] <crutchy> yeah
[04:39:00] <crutchy> the inside temp is 31, which is ok
[04:39:15] <crutchy> damn living in a dogbox in summer
[04:39:17] <JamesNZ> Warm? That is friggin' boiling :P
[04:49:50] <crutchy> might go dip in the paddle pool
[05:04:27] <crutchy> guineapiggles are a bit hot and bothered
[05:08:39] <crutchy> juggs, has this been added to Regurgitator? https://what-if.xkcd.com
[05:08:40] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03What If?
[05:09:43] <crutchy> ooh we're watching a doco about antarctica :D
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[06:16:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NetMarketShare Adjusts Figures, Shows Windows 8.x Losing Share - http://sylnt.us - not-even-if-it-was-free
[06:49:12] <crutchy> ~weather
[06:49:13] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC - currently 102°F / 39°C, overcast, wind N at 13 mph, humidity 34% - Saturday chance of rain (65°F-100°F / 18°C-38°C), Sunday chance of rain (55°F-79°F / 13°C-26°C), Monday clear (64°F-86°F / 18°C-30°C), Tuesday chance of showers (65°F-85°F / 18°C-29°C) - source: Google
[06:49:25] <crutchy> yay its starting to cool down :D
[06:49:45] * chromas would like to borry some o' them excess degrees o' yurs
[06:50:09] * crutchy handballs chromas some degrees
[06:50:30] <crutchy> arts and silphosy
[06:50:47] <chromas> aw
[06:51:13] <chromas> sounds like I'm ready to go create a new crime drama tc show
[06:51:23] <chromas> s/c/v/3
[06:51:23] <SedNotABot> <chromas> sounds like I'm ready to go create a new crime drama tv show
[06:52:14] <crutchy> make sure you have 2 people bashing on a single keyboard. it will be a surefire hit
[06:53:06] <crutchy> 'omfg we're getting hacked' 'its ok this is a unix system, i know this'
[06:56:04] <chromas> W..wait a minute. It's got that devil from redhat! It's not unix! It's not unix!
[06:56:06] <chromas> dooooooomed
[07:11:48] <crutchy> 38 deg. not that im counting down or anything
[07:13:29] <crutchy> hopefully after sun goes down it'll cool off bit more
[07:17:00] <SirFinkus> it's around 38 here using that other measurement system
[07:18:51] <crutchy> the frankenstein scale
[07:22:04] <SirFinkus> I piss everyone off by using the real scale
[07:24:01] <crutchy> floating point scale?
[07:24:36] <SirFinkus> sure, why not
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[08:18:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Files Letter with FCC Showing Positives of Title II for Broadband Providers - http://sylnt.us - what-could-go-wrong?
[08:19:28] <Konomi> crutchy: just rained here ;p
[08:19:36] <Konomi> 42C -> 25C lol
[08:19:43] <crutchy> noice
[08:19:57] <crutchy> its cloudy here at least, but still uncomfortably warm
[08:20:12] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com
[08:20:13] <crutchy> still 38
[08:20:49] <crutchy> how the hell can it be cloudy and 38?!
[08:20:50] <ciri> not sure
[08:21:03] <Konomi> I blame team australia myself
[08:31:32] <Popeidol> clouds stop the heat escaping from the surface
[08:32:11] <Popeidol> sun warms the place up, clouds move in, and you don't get a nice cool evening like you hoped
[08:32:41] <crutchy> well that's fucked
[08:34:56] <chromas> see if there's any music up there
[08:34:58] <chromas> or movies
[08:35:02] <chromas> in The Lcoud
[08:35:11] <chromas> dylsexia++
[08:35:12] <Bender> karma - dylsexia: 1
[08:35:19] <crutchy> weatherzone says 34.5 deg. google says 37. i'll take 34.5 to go please :p
[08:38:35] <crutchy> wow there is a crapload of rain on the way
[09:58:56] <crutchy> anyone know why curl might brick but wget/browser/etc work fine?
[09:59:12] <crutchy> curl <url>
[10:04:55] <crutchy> ooh soooo much nicer outside now
[10:05:02] <chromas> did you break your ubuntu?
[10:05:31] <crutchy> nah some other dude. i suggested fsockopen :p
[10:06:42] * Subsentient just released the new version of bricktick: http://universe2.us
[10:06:43] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Bricktick: Arkanoid/Brickbreaker for the UNIX console
[10:07:31] <chromas> cleek
[10:08:42] <chromas> it warns about an unsigned int, which is dumb
[10:08:45] <chromas> unsigned_int++
[10:08:45] <Bender> karma - unsigned_int: 1
[10:08:53] * chromas spanks the compiler
[10:09:03] <crutchy> might be worth mentioning that package i had to install to compile it
[10:09:09] <crutchy> for debian anyway
[10:09:15] <chromas> which was…
[10:09:15] <crutchy> might be different for arch
[10:09:23] <chromas> a -dev package?
[10:09:35] <crutchy> yeah summin like tht
[10:09:35] <Subsentient> chromas: Can you give me the warning?
[10:09:54] <crutchy> curses-lib-dev-slash-com-republicans
[10:10:00] <chromas> main.c: In function ‘main’:
[10:10:00] <chromas> main.c:547:5: warning: format ‘%d’ expects argument of type ‘int’, but argument 3 has type ‘long unsigned int’ [-Wformat=]
[10:10:00] <chromas> fprintf(stderr, "The maximum level is %d.\n", sizeof Levels / sizeof *Levels); fflush(NULL);
[10:10:00] <chromas> ^
[10:10:03] <crutchy> Konomi knows it :p
[10:10:20] <crutchy> chromas, must be systemd
[10:10:23] <Konomi> ncurses dev lib chromas
[10:10:35] <crutchy> your pyewta is borked. time to get a debian :D
[10:10:46] <chromas> Roll up your sleeves, we may have to fork ncurses
[10:10:49] <Konomi> or Subsentient made a coding error
[10:10:53] <Subsentient> chromas: Yeah that's an idiot error by me
[10:11:01] <Subsentient> I should have casted that variable.
[10:11:06] <chromas> I figured
[10:11:12] <chromas> I just didn't wanna be kicked :D
[10:11:16] <Subsentient> lol
[10:11:17] <crutchy> noooo! systemd ate my cursors
[10:11:31] <Subsentient> Yeah I'm not laughing at the ban hammer jokes anymore.
[10:11:44] <Subsentient> There's an old enemy who's being an asshole again. He's in the Warzone 2100 dev team.
[10:11:54] <Konomi> hmm?
[10:11:54] <crutchy> the ciri one is still pretty funny :D
[10:12:37] <crutchy> 69++
[10:12:37] <Bender> karma - 69: 2
[10:12:41] <crutchy> kick bender
[10:13:14] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick Subsentient
[10:13:14] <aqu4> Ok.
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[10:13:29] <Subsentient> Oops, wrong nick.
[10:13:53] * Subsentient slowly walks away whistling
[10:16:48] <chromas> Would it be platform-agnostic enough to read /dev/input/mice for paddle movement?
[10:17:16] <crutchy> $chanctl kick butt
[10:17:16] <aqu4> You are not authorized to use that command, you need to be an admin.
[10:20:10] <chromas> $requestctl --new-feature moar baysplosions
[10:21:25] <crutchy> there was a nuke charm in one of the commit messages
[10:22:20] <Konomi> how is using a unix path platform agnostsic ;p ?
[10:22:21] <ciri> not sure
[10:22:22] <chromas> it's the caret cymbol
[10:22:41] <chromas> 'cause like, posix and stuff
[10:23:33] * chromas puts on dunce hat
[10:24:03] <chromas> I just noticed the paddle moves several columns at once so that's one reason I keep missing the ball
[10:24:07] <chromas> plus I suck at it
[10:24:11] <crutchy> i think chromas was questioning the agnosticity of using /dev/input/mice
[10:24:33] <Konomi> oh mouse support added?
[10:25:01] <chromas> It wasn't, but I was wondering if it could be and still count as an ncurses program or something
[10:26:44] <crutchy> just use mousectl
[10:26:54] <crutchy> mousectl eat cheese
[10:28:48] <chromas> oh, it needs extra permissions anyhow
[10:29:02] <chromas> yep, time to create an input device 'server'
[10:29:11] <chromas> systemd-inputd
[10:30:14] <crutchy> mouse.com
[10:41:42] <Subsentient> chromas: The paddle moves precisely 50% of its length per key press.
[10:42:11] <Subsentient> Also, don't hold the keys
[10:42:12] <Subsentient> tap them.
[10:42:23] <chromas> yeah
[10:43:26] <chromas> Subsentient: next, port it to opengl with textures and raytraced refraction and radiosity and stuff
[10:47:31] <crutchy> and orcs
[10:47:45] <crutchy> gotta have orcs :D
[10:48:12] * Subsentient has always loved breakout since he was a small kid and wrote bricktick because many of his machines are too slow for OpenGL brick breakers
[10:48:13] <chromas> and tama lama ding dongs
[10:48:47] <chromas> 386s?
[10:49:00] <Subsentient> chromas: More like Pentium 3s running in VESA
[10:49:19] <chromas> the kernel doesn't support the graphics adapters anymore?
[10:49:35] <Subsentient> I guess not.
[10:49:38] <chromas> :(
[11:03:44] <crutchy> gdi man!
[11:03:55] <Subsentient> ?
[11:04:01] <crutchy> gotta have button bricks :p
[11:04:26] <Subsentient> crutchy: you mean the bricks on the two last levels?
[11:04:59] <chromas> Subsentient: gdi was an old Windows graphics api
[11:05:16] <chromas> well, 'old'
[11:05:19] <crutchy> old!? you insolent young whippersnapper!
[11:05:24] <crutchy> :D
[11:06:25] <chromas> lol, that would be funny though: make all the sprites in the game be buttons that move around on a form
[11:06:41] <chromas> hmm, now I want to make that
[11:07:13] <crutchy> with ellipses for baysplosions
[11:08:20] <chromas> I don't know about Delphi, but in Lazarus, you can to tImage components with alpha channels and it blends them
[11:08:46] <chromas> so if your graphic has a transparent drop shadow, it will be composited over whatever's under it
[11:09:09] <chromas> performance isn't too bad either, for something like a card or tiles game
[11:20:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why Aren’t We Using SSH for Everything? - http://sylnt.us - nsa-thanks-you
[11:26:27] <crutchy> chromas, check out https://github.com
[11:26:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/delphi at master · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub
[11:27:02] <crutchy> i just chucked in an old gdi tilemap thingy i made a while ago
[11:27:27] <crutchy> map generator algorithm for irciv is based of it
[11:28:18] <crutchy> its delphi so you need windows or wine to run it unfortunately :/
[11:30:46] <chromas> :D
[11:37:48] <chromas> I had lazarus convert it. the main problem is the missing jmc units
[11:37:56] <chromas> those are your custom units though huh
[11:38:58] <chromas> I think those were on your github. /me looks
[11:39:41] <crutchy> oh they might not be there anymore
[11:39:45] <crutchy> i'll find them
[11:44:53] <chromas> I'm running the exes in wine
[11:45:29] <crutchy> there's some crap in https://github.com now :D
[11:45:30] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/delphi/lib at master · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub
[11:45:54] <chromas> hehe, mousing off the edge wraps the paint brush
[11:45:56] <crutchy> had to boot up the other nas
[11:46:02] <crutchy> it does?
[11:46:19] <chromas> at least on the right edge
[11:46:53] <crutchy> gosh that's wei... a feature :D
[11:47:47] <crutchy> buffering tbitmap makes gdi not too bad
[11:48:11] <crutchy> dunno whether i'd use it for anything too heavy animation-wise
[11:48:48] <chromas> create a tGraphic for each sprite :D
[11:50:59] <crutchy> that's pretty much what i do
[11:51:26] <crutchy> tgraphic is a descendent of tbitmap (i think)
[11:51:31] <crutchy> or summin
[11:51:47] <crutchy> or it might contain a tbitmap field
[11:52:12] <crutchy> been a while since i looked at tgraphic
[11:52:37] <chromas> I didn't remember either. tgraphic is what's on the form palette
[11:53:08] <chromas> a tbitmap probably does the same though :)
[11:54:31] <crutchy> i was thinking of tpicture
[11:54:52] <crutchy> tgraphic looks like one of those weird interface classes
[11:56:17] <crutchy> has a loadfromfile and canvas though :)
[11:57:42] <crutchy> oh nah doesnt have canvas, but does have draw. sounds ideal for sprites
[12:05:38] <crutchy> http://soylentnews.org
[12:05:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: Why Aren’t We Using SSH for Everything? 04(4 comments)
[12:05:53] <crutchy> dunno where bender is
[12:06:09] <crutchy> oh it already posted
[12:06:16] <crutchy> lol i just missed it
[12:06:53] <crutchy> need ssh SN irc server now
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[12:34:08] * chromas uses ssh for roasting chicken and filtering water. Plus it improves the TV signal
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[12:42:55] <crutchy> heyoo Konomi
[12:43:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:43:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 949
[12:50:01] <crutchy> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:50:03] * exec prematurely pours a socket of skittles for TheMightyBuzzard
[12:50:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[12:50:37] <crutchy> almost. another 10 minutes :p
[12:51:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> vacations are right tiring. went off on a trout fishing expedition the past four days
[12:51:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tomorrow's World "The Race to Mars" - How the Future of Space Looked in 1987 - http://sylnt.us - man-on-mars-before-the-year-2000
[12:53:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> neither rain nor cold nor ran AND cold did stay me from freezin my ass off trying to catch teh foosh
[13:01:47] <Konomi> mew hey
[13:02:01] * TheMightyBuzzard wabe
[13:14:36] <ar> hm
[13:14:45] <ar> do you know of any 802.11ad accesspoints?
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[13:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ad?
[13:21:13] <crutchy> a-d?
[13:22:08] * TheMightyBuzzard am confused
[13:24:01] * TheMightyBuzzard works on the changelog for the site update
[13:26:03] <Konomi> a or d'
[13:26:24] <Konomi> hmm or not
[13:26:43] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[13:26:44] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Wireless Gigabit Alliance
[13:26:53] <Konomi> and nope
[14:02:36] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: WiGig
[14:03:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> roger. nope, hadn't even heard of it.
[15:23:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Police Blame Fraud for Most of Mt. Gox's Missing Bitcoins - http://sylnt.us - which-is-what-many-thought
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[17:07:12] <ar> my friend has an interesting computer: https://owncloud.hackerspace.pl
[17:07:14] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03ownCloud
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[17:21:31] <nick> happy weekend?
[17:22:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, so far. going to be a busy one though.
[17:22:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> lot of stuff to do on top of the site upgrade that may or may not happen depending on paulej72's availability.
[17:24:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ai Weiwei and the Coming Surveillance State - http://sylnt.us - the-future-begins-now
[17:25:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, more errands to run. back in an hour or two.
[17:25:35] <nick> laters
[17:25:52] * nick should get motivated and get things done
[19:26:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sony Turned to BlackBerry to Continue Working during Hack - http://sylnt.us - if-its-good-enough-for-POTUS
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[21:02:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Mods! Mods!
[21:02:38] <Ethanol-fueled> I just saw this quote at the bottom of a Soylent News page:
[21:02:42] <Ethanol-fueled> "he was good at playing abstract confusion in the same way a midget is good at being short. -- Clive James, on Marilyn Monroe "
[21:03:11] <Ethanol-fueled> political incorrectness! The word "midget" infringes upon my right to not be offended!
[21:03:15] <Ethanol-fueled> RACISM!
[21:03:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Ban that quote for LIFE!!!!
[21:04:06] * Ethanol-fueled has quit [k-lined by an army of angry midgets]
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[21:17:03] <Landon> ok
[21:26:32] <chromas> Or were another one that just says" midget midget midget"
[21:26:54] <chromas> s/were/add/
[21:26:54] <SedNotABot> <chromas> Or add another one that just says" midget midget midget"
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[21:27:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Crowd Sourcing Lost Airplane Locations - http://sylnt.us - is-anyone-listening
[21:27:59] <mythterj> Imagine that, Ethanol getting all politically correct on us?!?? Has it frozen over?
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[21:52:37] <chromas> the jews got to him and made him become the brown menace he warned us so much about
[22:08:48] * Subsentient found rice in his beard
[22:25:40] <chromas> give it to aqu4 for the $burritos
[22:26:40] * Subsentient gives aqu4 some hairy rice
[23:18:26] <paulej72> me not fully available. I been battling a cold
[23:29:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fanged Species of Frog Gives Birth to Live Tadpoles - http://sylnt.us - life-will-find-a-way
[23:35:18] <Konomi> he really can't help himself
[23:35:21] * Konomi yawns
[23:37:33] <swiss> got more insteon set up in my house
[23:39:05] <Konomi> hth
[23:39:10] <Konomi> hack the house
[23:48:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> X.25?
[23:52:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i'm gonna lazy around this evening and enjoy it since pj is sick and we're not doing the upgrade until later in the week or next weekend.
[23:55:30] <chromas> You may as well get some sick out of the way too, just in case
[23:56:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, saving that up for when i move so it's extra miserable.
[23:56:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> luggin boxes with the flu FML
[23:58:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, video games in winders time. back in a few hours.
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