#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-31
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[00:02:06] <SirFinkus> lol, now it's "tammy"
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[01:27:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, Lot Lizards are prostututes who frequent truck stops and solicit passing truckers
[01:30:03] <SirFinkus> so I've heard
[01:31:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Got a date for eight!
[01:31:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Hell yeah, doo-wah-doo. Whoop-bop-doop-bop-doobity-doo!
[01:31:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Bite my shiny metal ass!
[01:31:35] <ciri> Oh yeah bite me Ethanol-fueled
[01:31:44] <SirFinkus> oh, it's "Jessica" now
[01:31:51] <Ethanol-fueled> I like the name "jessica"
[01:31:52] <SirFinkus> with sister "Crystal"
[01:32:00] <SirFinkus> heroin addict
[01:32:05] <Ethanol-fueled> How long have you been watching that shit, Finkus?
[01:32:09] <SirFinkus> all day
[01:32:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Good god, man.
[01:32:43] <SirFinkus> oh wait, I watched a few movies earlier
[01:33:21] <Ethanol-fueled> I know the feels. My friends have to work so I'm all holed up in a hotel here doing mostly nothing.
[01:33:36] <Ethanol-fueled> And will likely just come back and drink beer tonight if I can get my date back with me.
[01:33:44] <SirFinkus> holidays, I can't feel guilty
[01:35:11] <Ethanol-fueled> dammit, I'd better wet my noodle tonight.
[01:36:32] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled just wants to start off the new year with a bang
[01:36:52] <Ethanol-fueled> BA-dum TISH
[01:50:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Open-Office is Destroying the Workplace - http://sylnt.us - can't-hear-myself-think
[01:51:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Open offices suck.
[01:51:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Everybody I know whose employer switched to open office plans says it fucking sucks.
[01:58:01] <crutchy> Subsentient:
[01:58:06] <crutchy> <exec> *** sylnt@irc.freenode.net >> Gravis PRIVMSG #devuan :on topic: i think epoch is something worth packaging though the config file format should be... more ini config file style.
[01:58:23] <crutchy> any thoughts on this?
[01:58:25] <Subsentient> crutchy: YAY
[01:58:49] <Subsentient> crutchy: I disagree and I'm not changing the config format. If they want to package it, that's good news to me
[02:02:50] <crutchy> looks like epoch getting some love anyway which is good. better be careful or you might wind up being the next poettering :D
[02:03:24] <crutchy> they might call you 'darth rat'
[02:03:53] <chromas> ratbert cyannering
[02:04:00] <crutchy> hehe saw qua4 pop into #devuan
[02:04:59] <Ethanol-fueled> subsentient, why wouldnt you change the config format?
[02:05:32] <crutchy> yeah!? we want binary format dammit!
[02:05:46] <chromas> binary xml
[02:05:48] <crutchy> windows registry style
[02:06:05] <crutchy> epoch.dat :p
[02:06:12] <chromas> windows_registry++
[02:06:12] <Bender> karma - windows_registry: 1
[02:06:38] <chromas> hierarchical databases are hip
[02:07:16] <chromas> pwd
[02:07:20] <chromas> herp
[02:09:17] <Konomi> epoch ate my dog
[02:09:18] <Konomi> etc
[02:10:49] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Because I *like* the current format.
[02:11:10] <crutchy> wow aqu4 and Subsentient hop into #devuan and the channel dies :/
[02:11:11] <Subsentient> I wrote Epoch for me, and if other people like it too, that genuinely makes me happy, but still, I wrote it for me.
[02:11:35] <crutchy> might be just slow anyway
[02:11:38] <chromas> well, as long as you don't tell people it's not a bug 'cause they're doin' it wrong and "we don't know, so assume yes"
[02:11:51] <crutchy> they can fork it
[02:11:56] <crutchy> epochuan
[02:12:00] <Subsentient> lol
[02:12:01] <chromas> Roll up your sleeves…
[02:12:01] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
[02:13:13] <crutchy> just be like torvalds and you'll be fine... occasionally drop in things like "nvidia, fuck you!" and everyone will wanna fsck your hard disk
[02:13:38] <Subsentient> $replace crutchy disk^drive
[02:13:38] <aqu4> Subsentient: "<crutchy>: just be like torvalds and you'll be fine... occasionally drop in things like "nvidia, fuck you!" and everyone will wanna fsck your hard drive"
[02:14:18] <chromas> $replace aqu4 d d^d disk d
[02:14:18] <aqu4> No record of any speech by that user.
[02:14:50] <Konomi> !grab crutchy
[02:14:50] <Bender> Added quote 323
[02:14:59] <crutchy> s/s/c/5
[02:14:59] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> just be like torvalds and you'll be fine... occasionally drop in things like "nvidia, fuck you!" and everyone will wanna fcck your hard disk
[02:15:06] <crutchy> oops
[02:15:08] <crutchy> can't count
[02:16:22] <chromas> ～define fcck
[02:16:38] <Konomi> you used a utf character for ~ silly
[02:16:50] <crutchy> ooh we have 56 in here. up by about 4 or 5 on the usual
[02:17:01] <chromas> That's how I get away with not dirtying up the channel
[02:17:05] <Konomi> most of the room idles I wouldn't go by user count ;p
[02:17:22] <crutchy> we might have gained some spies from freenode
[02:17:40] <chromas> crutchy: maybe exec could use an ~active command or something
[02:17:46] <Konomi> oh yes this is a chat room worth spying on
[02:17:49] <chromas> that counts how many people've talked in the last day or two
[02:18:20] <chromas> Konomi: you never know; some people probably want to know about systemd and ef's extension program
[02:18:30] <crutchy> :D
[02:19:05] <Konomi> more like collecting evidence for ef's prosecution
[02:19:28] <crutchy> should invite them into the batcave so they can discover tama's yo mama joke suppository
[02:20:27] <crutchy> oh good grief
[02:20:29] <crutchy> <exec> *** sylnt@irc.freenode.net >> comradekingu PRIVMSG #devuan :homage to the fork.
[02:20:42] <crutchy> someone's been playing too much WoW
[02:24:22] <crutchy> i'm only on my third cup today and i run out of coffee :(
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[03:11:16] <crutchy> yay more coffee :D
[03:11:28] <crutchy> crutchys_missus++
[03:11:28] <Bender> karma - crutchys_missus: 1
[03:12:12] <crutchy> hehe
[03:12:15] <crutchy> <exec> *** sylnt@irc.freenode.net >> Gravis PRIVMSG #devuan :but hey, feel free to eat shit an die. ;)
[03:18:57] <chromas> http://vimeo.com
[03:18:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Prom date FAIL on Vimeo
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[04:13:54] * SpallsHurgenson slumps into his chair, exhausted
[04:14:22] * Subsentient chairs his slump
[04:14:28] <crutchy> pr0nz can be tiring
[04:14:38] <SpallsHurgenson> worse: ikea!
[04:17:53] <SpallsHurgenson> and the after-ikea build-a-thon. and the return-to-ikea-for-the-missing-parts-dash. followed by the these-two-parts-don't-fit-together-oh-wait-yes-they-do aggravation. and the now-I-gotta-move-this-damn-thing-across-the-room weight-lifting test.
[04:19:07] <chromas> ~define ikea
[04:19:09] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Ikea: A large furniture store that sells everything in a million pieces.
[04:20:04] <SpallsHurgenson> I guess sweden hasn't discovered 'stralia yet
[04:21:27] <chromas> so it's like Sauder and those other brands in regular stores, but taken up to eleven
[04:22:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - West Virginia School Board Alters Climate Change Education Standards - http://sylnt.us - coal-industry-is-persecuted-by-science
[04:22:07] <chromas> ikea is the dubstep of furniture stores
[04:22:31] <SpallsHurgenson> never been to sauder so I can't say. it's basically a warehouse store and their furniture is all pressboard crap. its an awful, exhausting experience
[04:22:57] <SpallsHurgenson> never, never, /never/let anyone rope you into a trip to ikea if you can help it
[04:23:46] <chromas> Sauder is a brand of that kind of furniture at Shopko or Walmart or something. Mostly desks, shelves and tables
[04:23:57] <chromas> I haven't seen any chairs or couches or anything
[04:24:24] <crutchy> i think straya has idea
[04:24:40] <chromas> ooh, it's even made in amurika supposedly
[04:25:04] <chromas> well shit, I gotta go out and be patriotic and buy fifty particle board desks
[04:25:21] <Subsentient> chromas: lol
[04:25:25] <crutchy> gotta burn something to keep warm
[04:25:34] * chromas rattles a bag of peg cams
[04:25:40] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arstechnica.com
[04:25:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03E-mail matters, Twitter doesn’t, to American workers | Ars Technica
[04:26:08] <SpallsHurgenson> 'round 'bout these parts, only people using twitter at work are the marketing dweebs.
[04:27:53] <Subsentient> SpallsHurgenson: sounds about right
[04:27:59] <nick> and there are legions of marketing and sales dweebs
[04:29:41] <crutchy> someone has to sell all those greenbacks to foreign countries
[04:30:06] <crutchy> or bomb them into submission
[04:30:14] <SpallsHurgenson> only guy I know who actually uses twitter is for his blog/podcast
[04:30:31] * Subsentient hates social media
[04:30:37] <nick> i was also about to add "media" to the marketing and sales, as another group that does use twitter
[04:31:24] <nick> "media" in general and "new media" especially for blogs/vlogs and other such content creators
[04:31:27] <SpallsHurgenson> erm... only 'merican I know. I know a bunch of people in europe and they are much more twitter-happy
[04:31:43] <SpallsHurgenson> (come to think of it, the podcaster is originally from England too :)
[04:31:55] <nick> my grandmother has a twitter account, although has never sent a tweet.
[04:33:03] <nick> not that she's in business, but the fact she knows about it, and even has an account thanks to seeing it mentioned on the television/news so much
[04:33:10] <nick> shows how prevalent it is in those kind of industries
[04:33:43] <Subsentient> SpallsHurgenson: I am American and I don't use twitter.
[04:33:51] <chromas> Subsentient: you use irc :)
[04:34:22] <SpallsHurgenson> worked for a newspaper publisher a few years back. the newsroom used it, but mostly because they had to.
[04:35:42] <nick> and thats how it works, you have to do these things
[04:36:25] <nick> originally it was email, then it was business cellphones, then it was business smartphones and all the things associated
[04:36:48] <nick> email was more good than bad, but from work phones we can't ever escape our jobs
[04:37:05] * Subsentient only uses a dumbphone
[04:37:06] <nick> and twitter is a new use of that availability
[04:37:14] * Subsentient is therefore better than you
[04:37:14] <SpallsHurgenson> even the newsroom didn't take it seriously; it was an obvious marketing ploy
[04:37:38] <nick> all marketing is
[04:38:07] <nick> and yet it's an industry that employs millions of people, with mixed results at best
[04:38:09] <SpallsHurgenson> but nobody else I know really uses twitter. not kids (not that I know that many kids... get off my lawn!), young adults, or crusty old geezers :)
[04:38:10] <Subsentient> Part of the reason I hate capitalism is the deception and manipulation from marketing
[04:39:00] <nick> reasonable position Subsentient
[04:39:25] <nick> some people however thing if you can sell snake oil, it's the consumers fault if they're stupid enough to buy it.
[04:39:34] <nick> not your fault, you created a demand, supplied it. the job is done.
[04:40:04] <Subsentient> nick: I've scared off some 'patriotic' fellow Americans by telling them I'm a socialist.
[04:40:22] <nick> heh
[04:41:25] <nick> your 'patriotic' americans could call me a socialist too, because i'd sound like one to them
[04:41:49] <nick> yet i'm a self-employed person and believe in private enterprise and the value of a hard days work
[04:42:06] <SpallsHurgenson> communists! communists! you're all communists! REEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDSSSSS!
[04:42:13] <nick> and most of the time i feel like the only honest man in business
[04:43:11] <nick> the capitalist/communist divide is pointless and redundant, does not allow for any nuance
[04:43:34] <SpallsHurgenson> that's just what I would expect a communist to say :) :)
[04:44:47] <nick> i have found americans use the term 'communist' when they mean 'tyrannical' - when the point they're making has nothing to do with state controlled industry or the public/private property ownership
[04:45:46] * SpallsHurgenson blacklists nick from, well, everything :)
[04:45:46] <chromas> it was probably part of a FUD campaign a hundred years ago
[04:46:15] <chromas> 'cause our enemy was the reds, so I guess we decided to bleach them and call them pinkos
[04:46:25] <SpallsHurgenson> that'll learn ya! :)
[04:46:58] <nick> anything you dont like, is what our enemies actively want!
[04:47:38] <chromas> our capitalist desks were so tough they'd protect us from nuclear winter
[04:48:24] <nick> well, it worked didn't it?
[04:48:47] <nick> the russians knew the usa had superior desks so didn't bother trying, they saw the PSA's
[04:49:58] <nick> ok it's almost 5am so i should sleep a couple hours before i start making even less sense
[04:51:41] <SpallsHurgenson> american desk technology is second to none! :)
[04:52:05] * Subsentient uses a plastic card table
[04:53:21] <SpallsHurgenson> communist! :)
[04:53:48] <Subsentient> I think of communism like forced socialism
[04:54:06] <Subsentient> the problem with communism is that it's an idea that requires suppression of rights to enforce
[04:54:13] <Subsentient> so it is also vulnerable to abuse of power
[04:54:30] <SpallsHurgenson> also, they build terrible desks
[05:00:49] <chromas> Everything's vulnerable to abuse of power. That's why we had beta
[05:02:24] <SpallsHurgenson> beta wasn't so much abuse of power as bloody minded stupidity :)
[05:05:10] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, who accidentally unplugged the fileserver?
[05:05:18] * chromas blames the kitty
[05:06:11] * SpallsHurgenson shakes a fist, and shouts to the heavens, "KITTY!!!!!"
[05:07:51] <SpallsHurgenson> oddly enough, the itunes laptop, which saves to the network drive, didn't seem to mind that the fileserver was down for the last hour. from where has it been reading (and saving) all its data, I wonder?
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[05:10:51] <chromas> maybe it has a huuuge buffer
[05:11:36] <SpallsHurgenson> it's windows, vista and itunes... I'm not sure I feel up to the task of actually finding out :)
[05:11:53] <SpallsHurgenson> (it's not that I doubt my ability... just the strength of my stomach :)
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[05:13:21] * SpallsHurgenson checks... oh, and the hardware is from dell :)
[05:13:46] * chromas remembers þe oldene dayes of good dell laptops
[05:14:45] <SpallsHurgenson> honestly, I don't mind dell. I mean, they aren't great but they are generally okay
[05:16:10] <SpallsHurgenson> it's acer that earns my wrath :)
[05:16:19] <NightHawk> They're offerings are going downhill though. They used to let you properly customize systems.
[05:16:47] <NightHawk> s/They're/Their
[05:16:47] * SedNotABot offers NightHiwk a /
[05:17:03] <NightHawk> :/
[05:20:04] <SpallsHurgenson> pwned by the bot, how shameful :)
[05:21:26] * SpallsHurgenson checks the Internet, "Did I use 'pwned' appropriately? I'm old so I don't know these things." :)
[05:24:50] * NightHawk will think twice before speaking ill of Dell again. Damn karma.
[05:26:24] <SpallsHurgenson> http://arstechnica.com I can see my house from here :)
[05:26:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03City lights viewed from space show cultural, tech differences | Ars Technica
[05:28:12] <chromas> oh noes! the ariens can see us
[05:28:21] <chromas> We need to make all our lights point downward
[05:28:41] <SpallsHurgenson> wrap the planet in tinfoil!
[05:28:44] <chromas> and invent ground surface that only reflects light into our eyeballs
[05:28:57] <chromas> Bender: grab SpallsHurgenson
[05:28:57] <Bender> Added quote 324
[05:30:00] <SpallsHurgenson> yay, immortalized again!
[05:30:13] <SpallsHurgenson> ~quote SpallsHurgenson
[05:30:54] <chromas> !quote -2
[05:30:55] <Bender> Quote -2 - <crutchy> just be like torvalds and you'll be fine... occasionally drop in things like "nvidia, fuck you!" and everyone will wanna fsck your hard disk
[05:31:15] <chromas> Bender: s/hard disk/optical drive/
[05:31:15] <SedNotABot> <chromas> <Bender> Quote -2 - <crutchy> just be like torvalds and you'll be fine... occasionally drop in things like "nvidia, fuck you!" and everyone will wanna fsck your optical drive
[05:32:16] <SpallsHurgenson> no way to see quote ids by userid with bender?
[05:32:39] <chromas> not specifically
[05:32:44] <chromas> you can do a search
[05:32:47] <chromas> !quote beer
[05:32:47] <Bender> Quote 147 - <NCommander> I need a beer IV right now
[05:32:51] <Bender> Also in quotes: 204
[05:32:53] <chromas> !quote SpallsHurgenson
[05:32:53] <Bender> Quote 15 - <SpallsHurgenson> as a nerd, I am unfamiliar with this thing you call "sunlight"
[05:32:57] <Bender> Also in quotes: 21, 24, 50, 57, 72, 202, 245, 261, 273, 277, 283, 284, 285, 286, 287, 294, 309, 313, 318, 324
[05:33:10] <chromas> !quote derp
[05:33:10] <Bender> No quotes found with the text 'derp'
[05:33:24] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote 72
[05:33:24] <Bender> Quote 72 - <SpallsHurgenson> [SoylentNews] Is Every SoylentNews Article Going to invoke Beckeridge's Law from now on? http://please.writebetterheadlines.com - your readers ;-)
[05:33:49] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, I've done better
[05:33:56] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote 202
[05:33:56] <Bender> Quote 202 - <SpallsHurgenson> good god, cat just projectile-vomited on my shoes
[05:34:15] <SpallsHurgenson> there we go, that's the sort of stuff for which I'm famous :)
[05:37:36] <chromas> ~define Beckeridge
[05:37:50] <exec> Beckeridge: unable to find definition
[05:38:07] <SpallsHurgenson> it
[05:38:42] <SpallsHurgenson> it's sort of unnerving that I don't recall the incident where my cat projectile vomited on my shoes. you'd think that sort of thing would stick in a person's mind :)
[05:39:46] <crutchy> wow lol that's kinda gross
[05:40:07] <crutchy> i usually try to forget that kind of stuff
[05:42:16] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[05:42:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Camden bench
[05:42:32] <Konomi> nice city
[05:42:55] <Konomi> "The Camden bench received cultural criticism as being a prime example of a wider trend of urban design that is "anti-homeless" known as "hostile architecture".[6] The designers contend that "Homelessness should never be tolerated in any society and if we start designing in to accommodate homeless then we have totally failed as a society."
[05:43:37] <SpallsHurgenson> reminds me how they put spikes on practically every thing you can sit on in the city (low walls, fireplugs, etc) to prevent sitting
[05:43:43] <chromas> suppressing skateboarding. Not cool man
[05:44:15] * chromas rips knee holes in his pants
[05:44:20] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, who will I shoot at if there aren't any annoying skateboard kids dashing through the crowd?
[05:44:51] <chromas> the rest of the kids
[05:45:31] <Konomi> "stop being young!"
[05:45:42] <Konomi> oh but they're always on their phones and stuff!
[05:45:57] <Konomi> I wonder why ~
[05:47:20] <chromas> Playing inFamous and Uncharted makes me wanna run around, climbing buildings
[05:47:30] <chromas> Vidya games made me do it, occifer
[05:47:32] <SpallsHurgenson> (heh, those spikes are called "anti-homeless spikes" or "anti-sits" http://citynoise.org
[05:47:33] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03The Anti-Sit - New York, NY : citynoise.org
[05:48:26] <chromas> that picture of the girl hovering her butt over the hydrant…
[05:48:33] <chromas> it should be the new planking
[05:48:39] <chromas> butthovering
[05:48:53] <SpallsHurgenson> it's really hard to find anyplace to sit in the city these days
[05:49:29] <chromas> I've never seen those. We still have the classic hydrants you see in movies
[05:49:43] <chromas> You know, the ones where a car bumps them and water squirts out for no reason
[05:50:04] <SpallsHurgenson> those are standpipes
[05:50:42] <chromas> Yeah, don't see many of those here. I think there's some around the more industrial areas though
[05:51:43] <SpallsHurgenson> I think they are connected to fire hydrants and then water is pumped up 'em, so the firefighters don't have to carry full hoses up the stairs... they just bring empty hoses and connect to the standpipe on the appropriate floor
[05:52:13] <chromas> ah, so it's an input
[05:52:18] <crutchy> booster connections
[05:52:24] <SpallsHurgenson> I believe so
[05:52:39] <chromas> crutchy: s/s/bs/
[05:52:39] <SedNotABot> <chromas> <crutchy> boobster connections
[05:52:41] <crutchy> used a lot for schools and stuff too
[05:53:20] <SpallsHurgenson> pretty much every major non-residentail building (and most residential bigger than one- or two-family) seem to have 'em 'round these parts
[05:53:45] <SpallsHurgenson> all horrendously spiked to prevent me from having a brief respite after walking a mile or three :)
[05:54:34] <chromas> You just need to carry a pad around
[05:54:45] <chromas> a pizza paddle or something
[05:56:29] * chromas paddles crutchy
[05:57:02] <SpallsHurgenson> !grab chromas
[05:57:02] <Bender> Added quote 325
[05:57:40] <chromas> haha!
[05:57:44] <chromas> !quote -1
[05:57:44] <Bender> Quote -1 - <chromas> a pizza paddle or something
[05:59:50] <SpallsHurgenson> !quote 294
[05:59:50] <Bender> Quote 294 - <SpallsHurgenson> well, I gotta admit I do have a really nice ass
[06:00:01] <SpallsHurgenson> still as true today as it was when I said that
[06:00:34] <chromas> !blockgrab 2
[06:01:26] <SpallsHurgenson> chromas always tries to grab me when I'm talking about my ass
[06:03:17] <chromas> Bender: grab SpallsHurgenson
[06:03:17] <Bender> Added quote 326
[06:03:22] <chromas> hypothesis confirmed
[06:03:34] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, took you long enough :)
[06:03:39] <SpallsHurgenson> now I can talk again :)
[06:03:40] <chromas> bathroom break
[06:04:01] <chromas> We got a new crock pot. The cat found the box on its side so now he's got a heated cave
[06:04:22] <chromas> (it's sitting a few feet away from the heater)
[06:04:26] <SpallsHurgenson> except... I can't. tomorrow is new year's eve and I probably should get some sleep if I want to be properly awake for the end-o-year boozing.
[06:04:29] <SpallsHurgenson> night all
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[06:04:54] <chromas> Quit? You don't just quit irc!
[06:05:57] <Subsentient> chromas: Seriously, what's the strangest thing you have ever witnessed?
[06:06:45] <chromas> Someone quitting irc on purpose
[06:06:53] <Subsentient> chromas: hehe, no really
[06:06:54] <Subsentient> I'
[06:06:55] <chromas> Everything else is normal
[06:07:02] <Subsentient> I'm trying to compare my life.
[06:07:09] <chromas> Oh, I'm sure you win
[06:07:36] <Subsentient> chromas: I once went to an exorcism and witnessed everyone start screaming and throwing up the moment the lady snapped her fingers
[06:08:26] <chromas> I'm as innocent as a freshman schoolgirl
[06:08:36] <Subsentient> I just realized that I literally, not figuratively, don't believe my own life.
[06:08:57] <Subsentient> I wonder if I'm a subject in some alien experiment and this world is a simulation for the experiment
[06:09:29] <chromas> it's pretty sad that derpa droos have ruined the word 'literally' so we have to specify that we actually mean it
[06:09:36] <chromas> that's a strange thing to witness :D
[06:09:59] <Subsentient> chromas: So when people ask me if I believe in a god, I'm forced to say "yes"
[06:10:05] <chromas> like, literally, I've totally literally never seen the
[06:10:20] <chromas> Subsentient: you always say yes
[06:10:25] <Subsentient> haha
[06:10:28] <chromas> oh whoops. I misread
[06:10:36] <chromas> I thought it was "asks if you're a god"
[06:10:40] <chromas> I was thinking of Ghostbusters
[06:10:45] <crutchy> if you think physics is almighty, then it could be said that you believe in a god of sorts :p
[06:11:08] * crutchy wonders my his arse is a bit stingy
[06:11:15] <crutchy> and red
[06:11:27] <chromas> the problem isn't so much believing in /a/ god, but a certain one associated with jews, christians and muslims
[06:11:47] <chromas> Their problem is they all want the same god, so they're fighting over it
[06:12:27] <crutchy> oh yeah that god. he's always been a troublemaker. zeus should punish him
[06:12:28] <chromas> crutchy: your arse has been sitting on your wallet; that's why it's stingy. It doesn't want to spend anymore
[06:12:28] <Subsentient> chromas: Honestly, Islam is a cancer. It's the most violent religion I have ever witnessed, and it's far too widespread.
[06:12:42] <chromas> Subsentient: they're just taking their turn
[06:13:11] <chromas> jews had the old testament; christians had the new testament and beyond
[06:13:11] <crutchy> the vatican isn't full of saints either
[06:13:35] <crutchy> neither is israel
[06:13:46] <Subsentient> When I really look at what church I think has the most going for them, I think mormons.
[06:13:51] <Subsentient> I've never met a rude mormon
[06:14:05] <crutchy> they give you free toilet paper
[06:14:13] <Subsentient> I like mormons, and their churches are beautiful to visit.
[06:14:29] <chromas> and they all look like they work at nasa
[06:14:34] <Subsentient> So while I don't attend, I am nice to any visiting missionaries
[06:15:00] <Subsentient> chromas: Interestingly, a large number of mormons seem to be involved in programming.
[06:15:09] <chromas> that's cool
[06:15:15] <chromas> programming++
[06:15:15] <Bender> karma - programming: 2
[06:21:39] <NightHawk> brain washing is a kind of programming right?
[06:23:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - From Gongkai to Open Source - http://sylnt.us - open-open-source-to-be-open-and-open-source
[06:30:57] <NightHawk> Happy holidays folks. Take it easy.
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[06:44:14] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com
[06:51:20] <crutchy> is that a book cover Konomi?
[06:51:26] <Konomi> magazine
[06:51:55] <Konomi> unless the source was full of crap it does look like it has a thick spine
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[06:55:59] <Landon> http://www.rahvaraamat.ee
[06:56:03] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03МОНА: Дан Сельберг - Book | Rahva Raamat
[06:56:19] <Konomi> book then hehe
[06:56:21] <Landon> 416 pages, looks more like a book series than a magazine
[06:56:33] <Landon> see the bottom of the page though, lots of these misterium titles
[06:57:26] <crutchy> Konomi, i've had a sense of that arsehattery you mentioned about freenode code channels
[06:58:11] <Konomi> hehe
[06:58:14] <crutchy> i thought i might have some fun with it, but i think i'm too tired for that today
[06:59:03] <crutchy> i even had a ban threat :D
[06:59:35] <crutchy> though for what i'm still not really sure. cos i didn't bow to their supremacy or some shit
[07:00:34] <crutchy> you doin much for new years eve?
[07:00:40] <Landon> I might be going camping
[07:00:44] <Landon> didn't connect the two thoughts yet
[07:00:46] <crutchy> noice
[07:00:56] <Landon> camping wednesday + thursday as well as new years being wednesday/thursday
[07:00:59] <crutchy> hopefully the weather is nice to you
[07:01:06] <Landon> will be in the tens
[07:01:09] <Landon> (f)
[07:01:13] <Landon> (and mph)
[07:01:13] <crutchy> ew
[07:01:23] <Landon> (and chance of precipitation)
[07:01:32] <Landon> nah
[07:01:36] <Landon> good excuse to try out new sleeping bags
[07:01:43] <crutchy> lol
[07:01:43] <ciri> hahaha
[07:01:48] <Landon> see if they were worth the $200
[07:01:50] <crutchy> optimism++
[07:01:50] <Bender> karma - optimism: 1
[07:02:05] <crutchy> can get some pretty decent sleeping bags nowadays
[07:02:24] <swiss> the problem with sleepin bags now is that people like them to feel fuzzy :(
[07:02:29] <crutchy> some of them you don't even really need a tent
[07:02:36] <swiss> i like mine to have that slick feel
[07:02:38] <Landon> right, I've never had a down bag before, I'm expecting it will be like sleeping on the ducks own ass
[07:02:43] <crutchy> !grab swiss
[07:02:43] <Bender> Added quote 327
[07:02:45] <crutchy> :D
[07:02:48] <swiss> lolol
[07:03:12] <swiss> Landon: if they're good, yes, if they're not, you'll feel like the ducks ass parted around you to leave you on some rocks
[07:03:45] <Landon> better than parting to give me the sweet kiss of anus air
[07:03:55] <Landon> cloaca air, I guess, on a duck?
[07:03:59] <swiss> lol
[07:03:59] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[07:04:20] <swiss> ciri: if you were a real person, i'd have kicked you in the balls by now
[07:04:50] <crutchy> ciri seems like the sort that might enjoy that
[07:04:51] <Landon> it's amusing seeing the "Gonna go hunting" gear vs the "Gonna go camping" gear at the store though
[07:05:05] <Landon> hunting bags... 10-15lb, looks like a miniature fortress
[07:05:11] <swiss> the insteon house plan is working out nicely
[07:05:32] <swiss> you might be lookin at the "huntin" vs "backpacking" bags
[07:06:24] <Landon> didn't seem to be a whole lot of inbetween
[07:06:31] <Landon> http://www.cabelas.com
[07:06:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Cabela's Alaskan Guide Rectangle Sleeping Bag : Cabela's
[07:06:39] <Landon> that's the bag I've got pictured in my head
[07:06:58] <Landon> walls stiff enough it'd probably stand up
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[07:09:19] <crutchy> rated to absolute zero kelvin :p
[07:10:06] <Landon> it's as big as the universe
[07:10:25] <swiss> lol
[07:10:49] <swiss> debating on whether to spend another $140 to hook sensors to all my windows
[07:10:58] <Landon> what sort?
[07:10:59] <swiss> so i can do an automatic "windows are open, AC goes off" thing
[07:11:01] <swiss> insteon
[07:11:05] <Landon> ah
[07:11:38] <Landon> wouldn't you rather just get a unit with an outdoor temperature sensor :)
[07:11:41] <swiss> insteon is super nice so far. Huge issues setting it up initially (it was giving out bad MAC addresses, wtf) but once it started working, 0 issues
[07:12:09] <swiss> oh, i could, but this is more of "Girlfriend opens the window and is too lazy to go turn off the AC"
[07:12:28] <Landon> right right
[07:12:45] <Landon> in my scenario, unit realizes that humidity isn't crackalackin and only runs the fan under normal operation
[07:12:58] <Landon> so having a window open wouldn't be as jaw dropping
[07:13:45] <swiss> yeah...
[07:13:59] <swiss> dunno, i don't have the thermostat hooked in yet anyway, so whatever
[07:14:18] <swiss> i still have to hook in the rest of the lamps in my house, and swap all the light switches for insteon switches
[07:14:26] <Landon> just noticed this by the way, but You Need A Budget is on 75% off sale on Steam
[07:14:31] <Landon> highly recommended software
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[07:19:32] <crutchy> almost Happy Spew Beer there JamesNZ
[07:20:10] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Indeedily :)
[07:20:37] <JamesNZ> Just 3 hours and 40 minutes.
[07:21:09] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Doing anything special for the new year? (apart from sleeping)
[07:21:59] <crutchy> just having some music, alcohol and women on my back deck
[07:22:22] <crutchy> how 'bout yourself?
[07:22:22] <ciri> not sure
[07:22:41] <crutchy> $beer ciri
[07:22:41] * aqu4 gives ciri a cold can of beer
[07:23:09] <crutchy> $beer aqu4
[07:23:09] * aqu4 gives aqu4 a cold can of beer
[07:23:10] * JamesNZ will just be getting some shuteye
[07:23:17] <crutchy> sounds like a good plan
[07:23:28] <crutchy> not sure if i'll be awake till midnight
[07:23:53] <JamesNZ> I definitely won't, too lazy :P
[07:23:54] <crutchy> my missus and her friend will prolly keep me awake till fairly late though :/
[07:24:01] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[07:26:42] <Popeidol> wink wink, nudge nudge
[07:30:57] <crutchy> if only :p
[07:32:18] <swiss> i'll be going to a new years party
[07:32:25] <swiss> this is the best kind - i bet it'll end at 11
[07:34:13] <crutchy> the best ones end at 11.59
[07:34:31] <crutchy> 'alright it's 11.59 now gtfo'
[07:35:39] <swiss> lol
[07:35:39] <ciri> heh
[07:56:55] <Subsentient> <hazza-> there was a young vampire named mable
[07:56:55] <Subsentient> <hazza-> who's periods where really quite stable
[07:56:55] <Subsentient> <hazza-> and every full moon
[07:56:55] <Subsentient> <hazza-> she'd get out a spoon
[07:56:55] <Subsentient> <hazza-> and drink herself under the table
[07:56:55] <Subsentient> <|iCARUS> sick bastard
[07:56:57] <Subsentient> <|iCARUS> i like it tho :0
[07:57:35] <crutchy> seems like fortune -o
[07:57:41] <crutchy> ~openthepodbaydoors
[07:57:41] <exec> How come if you're horny it's lust, but if she's horny it's affection?
[07:57:53] <crutchy> ~openthepodbaydoors
[07:57:54] <exec> Q: What's invisible and smells like carrots?
[07:57:54] <exec> A: Bunny farts.
[08:00:19] <crutchy> ~openthepodbaydoors
[08:00:20] <exec> The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists.
[08:00:20] <exec> That is why they invented hell.
[08:00:20] <exec> -- Bertrand Russell
[08:00:20] <Hedonismbot> Karma - : -1
[08:00:29] <crutchy> ??
[08:01:01] <chromas> that's what happens when spaces are trimmed
[08:01:13] <chromas> but it doesn't check the rest of the string I guess
[08:01:23] <chromas> --lazy
[08:01:23] <Hedonismbot> Karma - lazy: -1
[08:01:32] <crutchy> ++lazy
[08:01:33] <Hedonismbot> Karma - lazy: 0
[08:01:34] <crutchy> :D
[08:01:54] <chromas> =who up lazy
[08:01:54] <Hedonismbot> lazy: crutchy
[08:02:00] <chromas> I thought that was higher
[08:02:01] <chromas> oh
[08:02:05] <crutchy> lazy++
[08:02:06] <Bender> karma - lazy: 7
[08:02:06] <chromas> Bender: karma lazy
[08:02:06] <Bender> karma of lazy is 7
[08:02:13] <chromas> Bender: whoup lazy
[08:02:13] <Bender> uppers of lazy are: crutchy: 4, chromas: 1, TheMightyBuzzard: 1, Alberto: 1, cru: 1
[08:02:19] <chromas> cru++
[08:02:19] <Bender> karma - cru: 1
[08:02:22] <crutchy> cru?
[08:02:36] <chromas> Maybe it was you, in disguise
[08:02:42] <crutchy> oh was that short nick day
[08:02:52] <chromas> ah yeah
[08:03:00] <crutchy> we should make that an annual event :p
[08:03:19] <crutchy> s/nu//
[08:03:19] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> we should make that an anal event :p
[08:04:14] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Youch, that's dark.
[08:05:58] * crutchy still remembers the first time a fortune -o was dropped in #soylent by exec
[08:06:15] <crutchy> i think xlefay's immediate reaction was 'oh my'
[08:06:47] <JamesNZ> fortune -o?
[08:07:21] <crutchy> offensive mode for the fortune cli program
[08:07:32] <arti> :|
[08:07:34] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[08:07:57] <crutchy> ~openthepodbaydoors
[08:07:57] <exec> Fortune understands that the vote on a bill to legalize bisexuality
[08:07:57] <exec> could go either way.
[08:08:22] <crutchy> i think that runs fortune -o
[08:08:32] <crutchy> doesn't seem very offensive though
[08:09:00] <crutchy> its fortune -s -o
[08:09:03] <crutchy> only short ones
[08:09:25] <chromas> 8,000% of fortune -o is sexual limericks
[08:09:50] <crutchy> lol
[08:09:50] <ciri> rofl
[08:10:13] <crutchy> is there a cli tool for the geek book
[08:10:18] <crutchy> or whatever its called
[08:10:34] <chromas> ~define geek book
[08:10:48] <exec> geek book: unable to find definition
[08:10:52] <crutchy> or the geek file
[08:11:38] <chromas> the hex files: tails from the cryptloop
[08:13:11] <crutchy> got all the acronyms and stuff used in the old usenet days
[08:13:40] <crutchy> ah
[08:13:42] <crutchy> jargon file
[08:14:35] <chromas> there's a jargon file for dictd
[08:14:49] * crutchy installs jargon package
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[08:15:34] <SoyCow3072> son of a bitch
[08:15:54] <crutchy> g'day ethanol-fueled :D
[08:15:55] <ciri> hi there crutchy
[08:16:21] <SoyCow3072> What are you all drinking tonight?
[08:16:33] <chromas> Soylent Shame
[08:16:43] <crutchy> redgut
[08:17:02] <crutchy> $3.70 a bottle
[08:17:27] <JamesNZ> Ye olde water.
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[08:18:08] <crutchy> does eth know about /nick?
[08:18:29] <crutchy> maybe only when he's sober :p
[08:28:50] <JamesNZ> I really hate it when websites limit password length. Particularly when it's a FRIGGIN' BANK.
[08:29:59] <chromas> Eight bytes ought to be enough for anybody
[08:31:25] * JamesNZ grumbles profusely
[08:32:00] <chromas> I remember when slash used to limit passwords to 20 chars
[08:32:51] <JamesNZ> Why do websites do that?
[08:33:17] <crutchy> cos programmers care so much about memory usage nowadays
[08:33:26] <crutchy> they do everything in asm
[08:33:35] <chromas> I dunno. It's pretty dumb. If the password is stored as a hash then it should always be exactly the size of the hash
[08:34:07] <chromas> sha16384
[08:34:13] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Hah.
[08:34:39] <JamesNZ> chromas: Yeah, that's what I thought.
[08:35:05] <crutchy> eventually when the government can track our every move we'll be able to authenticate with what colour our last shit was
[08:35:49] * chromas gives crutchy https://www.youtube.com
[08:35:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Smart Pipe | Infomercials | Adult Swim - YouTube
[08:36:05] <crutchy> lol i was just trying to think of that :p
[08:36:06] <ciri> hahaha
[08:36:11] <crutchy> my brain is fart
[08:36:27] <chromas> your brain is authenticated
[08:36:45] <chromas> gaslock
[08:41:07] <crutchy> i sorta got jargon -s working
[08:41:46] <crutchy> not very irc-friendly though
[08:42:13] <crutchy> prolly better reading in the jargon file directly into a little php script
[08:46:20] <crutchy> anyone know a command to execute another command in single talking marks?
[08:46:33] <crutchy> something like exec 'some shell command'
[08:46:42] <crutchy> in bash
[08:49:33] <crutchy> got it
[08:49:38] <crutchy> eval '$command'
[08:55:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How the HipHop Virtual Machine Makes Wikipedia Twice As Fast - http://sylnt.us - drum-machine-vst
[09:02:09] <crutchy> http://rt.com
[09:02:22] <crutchy> i fucking hate my government
[09:02:31] <crutchy> erm... monopoly?
[09:02:44] <crutchy> s/monopoly/Hedonismbot/
[09:02:44] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> erm... Hedonismbot?
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[10:44:08] <chromas> Colon pipe
[10:44:52] <chromas> Firefox for android has a wikipedia-style banner at the bottom of the start page
[10:45:27] <crutchy> nasty
[10:45:58] <chromas> It's a lot smaller and the start page is just history thumbnails but still
[10:46:19] <chromas> Did they lose their google funding? I don't wanna give three dollars
[10:46:40] <chromas> I mean
[10:47:04] <crutchy> i don't use firefox on my phone
[10:47:08] <chromas> I don't wanna give three dollars 🔯
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[10:47:27] <crutchy> it has shitty support for addons and that's about the only reason i use ff on my desktop/lappy
[10:47:40] <crutchy> (for the addons)
[10:48:15] <crutchy> do you have the normal android browser?
[10:48:32] <chromas> I wish qupzilla had moar add-ons but I think they're c++
[10:48:38] <chromas> Yeah
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[11:00:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Mission accomplished!
[11:00:39] <Ethanol-fueled> And, I am no longer an anti-semite, because the girl was not only of Jewish decent, but liked the Brown Menace.
[11:00:56] Ethanol-fueled is now known as SoyGuest48885
[11:01:08] <SoyGuest48885> DOH
[11:01:10] <chromas> Everyone is an antisemite. Even other semites
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[11:01:34] <crutchy> Happy New Year to NZ!
[11:01:42] <Ethanol-fueled_> YAAAAAYYYY!
[11:01:49] <Ethanol-fueled_> The fact I got laid is making this all the sweeter.
[11:01:54] <Ethanol-fueled_> we did it 3 times!
[11:02:00] <crutchy> good on ya mate
[11:02:02] <Ethanol-fueled_> and I am no longer an Anti-semite!
[11:02:03] <crutchy> i think :/
[11:02:17] <Ethanol-fueled_> hell yeah crutchy. Very rarely can I pull something off like that.
[11:02:36] * crutchy tries very hard to keep that in context :p
[11:02:40] <crutchy> ah fuck it
[11:02:43] <crutchy> !grab Ethanol-fueled_
[11:02:43] <Bender> Added quote 328
[11:02:51] <crutchy> :D
[11:03:05] <Ethanol-fueled_> damn, I was trying to grab you for quote 329
[11:03:06] <chromas> Did you glue extra hair to your chest and wear a good chain?
[11:03:18] <Ethanol-fueled_> chromas, nope.
[11:03:28] <Ethanol-fueled_> And, get this -- she was into sci-fy. Dr. Who, Star trek
[11:03:29] <crutchy> and more importantly, is your bed free of shitstains?
[11:03:43] <chromas> Not anymore
[11:03:46] <Ethanol-fueled_> A woman I could talk trek with! Those are rare as fuck in the dating cesspool scene
[11:03:52] <crutchy> noice
[11:04:14] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, free as can be. Though I have 2 beds in this room
[11:04:14] <crutchy> i watched all seven seasons of voyager with my missus once
[11:04:23] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, what did she think of it?
[11:04:37] <Ethanol-fueled_> did she know that Voyager was one of the crappiest of the series? ahaha
[11:04:38] <crutchy> she's not a super duper die hard trekkie, but she liked it
[11:04:46] <crutchy> lol
[11:04:51] <Ethanol-fueled_> it's a good series to ease a woman into trek
[11:04:51] <crutchy> it had seven of bewbs
[11:05:11] <Ethanol-fueled_> Gonna step out for a sec and grab some food. Be back in a bit
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[11:24:48] <Ethanol-fueled_> Hahahah
[11:25:00] <Ethanol-fueled_> Aw, yeah
[11:26:00] <chromas> Fourth time?
[11:26:06] <Ethanol-fueled_> No chromas, she left.
[11:26:32] <chromas> What. You need some nagging time
[11:26:36] <Ethanol-fueled_> Holy shit that was awesome. I still can't believe it happened.
[11:26:54] <Ethanol-fueled_> She was a large girl, of course, but only real men can handle large girls.
[11:27:48] <Ethanol-fueled_> chromas, we talked for a good hour or two after we were done with the deeds.
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[11:37:11] <Ethanol-fueled_> Too bad New Year's is going to be anticlimactic here.
[11:37:22] <Ethanol-fueled_> Just a few swingin' dicks huddled around a bonfire.
[11:37:34] <Ethanol-fueled_> With beers, and perhaps Jack Daniels and Jagermeifter
[11:38:03] <Ethanol-fueled_> Goddamn, it's been a brutal year, but one that has paid off in spades.
[11:39:02] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled++
[11:39:05] <Ethanol-fueled_> I love you guys! I love you all!
[11:39:09] <Ethanol-fueled_> even konomi!
[11:39:14] <crutchy> bender: wtf?
[11:39:28] <crutchy> bender's gone?
[11:39:34] <Ethanol-fueled_> come here konomi mmmmmmm*KFTHEBTHPEPHTHTEEHBPPP*
[11:39:40] <crutchy> oh no its here
[11:39:42] <crutchy> coffee++
[11:39:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 946
[11:39:51] <crutchy> aw the damn dash in there
[11:40:00] <crutchy> Ethanol_fueled++
[11:40:00] <Bender> karma - ethanol_fueled: 3
[11:40:13] <Ethanol-fueled_> Yeah, the dash thing. Crutchy, I just registered with nickserv and I forgot my password already.
[11:40:15] <crutchy> Konomi's cool
[11:40:20] <crutchy> lol
[11:40:31] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, I think konomi has too thin skin for the internet though.
[11:40:45] <crutchy> i have 3 or 4 nickserv accounts. i had to write the passwords down
[11:41:03] <crutchy> she doesn'
[11:41:08] <crutchy> t take crap
[11:41:10] <Ethanol-fueled_> I can understand not wanting louts shitting up your place of comfort, but honestly I'm here a lot less than I'm not here.
[11:41:19] <crutchy> true
[11:42:29] <Ethanol-fueled_> If you get kicked or banned from here, then chances are you deserved it.
[11:42:58] <Ethanol-fueled_> sometimes voices kick or ban as gags, though. Like when alberto was harassing buzzard.
[11:43:08] <Ethanol-fueled_> TheMightyButtzard++
[11:43:08] <Bender> karma - themightybuttzard: 1
[11:43:09] <Konomi> if you get kicked and banned from here you probably deserved it 3 days ago
[11:43:21] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, I deserved it since the goddamn day I stepped in.
[11:43:28] <Konomi> and categorising me as having thin skin for not putting up with utter stupidity form people would hardly be true
[11:43:51] <Konomi> yes you have and as such a lot of people might've never gave this place a chance because they see the rules as not being rules at all
[11:44:02] <Konomi> how many people may have left I can only wonder
[11:44:31] <Konomi> "this place looks pretty call" "fucking fucking explantive etc" "and leaving"
[11:45:05] <crutchy> g'day Konomi
[11:45:06] <Ethanol-fueled_> But konomi, as formalized as the execution of this place was, it was touted as a place with a core tenet not to censor based on opinion.
[11:45:44] <Konomi> everyone needs to make a judgement at some point there is no such thing as pure objetivity
[11:45:55] <Ethanol-fueled_> And I'm a big dumb retarded lout. If I see something that makes me happy I'm going to act like a giddy gorrilla and beat my chest and flail my arms around after I rip the head of that bunny.
[11:45:57] <Konomi> everywhere will censor based on "opinion" eventually
[11:46:09] <crutchy> need a #boxed-fox channel here
[11:46:28] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, this may come as a shock to you, but some people actually agree with what I have to say.
[11:46:33] <Konomi> I would not let my close friends or SO comne to this network
[11:46:39] <crutchy> lol
[11:46:44] <crutchy> don't blame you
[11:46:46] <Konomi> it is not fit in it's current state for any of them
[11:46:56] <crutchy> too many bots?
[11:47:05] <crutchy> or too many fart jokes
[11:47:12] <Ethanol-fueled_> And you know what else, konomi? Some or others may also not agree with you.
[11:48:09] <Ethanol-fueled_> and look what crutchy just said. this place has its share of juvenile humor WITHOUT me around.
[11:48:41] <crutchy> most of the fart jokes are in the batcave at least
[11:48:51] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, I read the logs.
[11:49:04] <crutchy> the batcave is not fit for human consumption :p
[11:49:06] <Ethanol-fueled_> I know that you guys don't need me to send a discussion into the toilet.
[11:49:11] <crutchy> lol
[11:49:11] <ciri> heh
[11:49:44] <Ethanol-fueled_> Any maybe, just maybe, some potential regulars would feel more comfortable in an informal environment rather than an uptight one?
[11:49:58] <Konomi> I don't recall care if they do or don't
[11:50:15] <crutchy> the big freenode channels seem to have severe pole-arse syndrome
[11:50:17] <Konomi> when the place detoriates enough I will just up and leave I already long established my comfortable parts of the internet ages ago
[11:50:26] <Konomi> I only explore sometimes
[11:50:38] <crutchy> true. that would suck though
[11:50:51] <crutchy> you're good to chat with Konomi
[11:50:58] <crutchy> smart cookie
[11:51:07] <Konomi> I'm surprised you have that opinion with some of the discussions you get into with me
[11:51:28] <Ethanol-fueled_> Konomi, what do you propose to prevent this place from deteriorating? Say that you permanently banned me from everything Soylent -- discussions, IRC. Say you removed all traces of my participation.
[11:51:43] <Ethanol-fueled_> What would YOU do after that to keep this place from "deteriorating?"
[11:51:54] <crutchy> debates are fun. intellectual debates are even moreso. you make me feel like a retard sometimes, which is good for me
[11:52:12] <crutchy> cos sometimes i can be full of myself
[11:52:29] <Ethanol-fueled_> I don't think so, crutchy. You're one of the most humble bastids in here.
[11:52:38] <Konomi> it's too late the initial momentum has been lost
[11:53:01] <crutchy> this place is getting quieter
[11:53:06] <Konomi> the place would have to sit here and exist for ages and hope to pick up more people
[11:53:22] <Konomi> the initial rush is over and the first impressions
[11:53:23] <crutchy> i dunno what happened to a lot of the 'staff'
[11:53:38] <Konomi> they seem to avoid this channel a lo
[11:53:39] <Konomi> t
[11:53:42] <Konomi> I wonder why
[11:53:54] <Ethanol-fueled_> Are you blaming all of your problems on me?
[11:54:01] <crutchy> tmb, juggs and even pj are regulars
[11:54:05] <crutchy> nah e-f
[11:54:18] <crutchy> paulej72 is lurking in the batcave
[11:54:28] <crutchy> that's the most offensive channel here
[11:54:47] <crutchy> if he had a problem with smut he certainly wouldn't be there
[11:55:35] <crutchy> juggs goes there sometimes too
[11:56:02] <Ethanol-fueled_> Apparently, I'm Mother Teresa compared to some people who still participate in Kernel Development and mailing lists etc.
[11:56:12] <Konomi> you don't even know "my problemns" Ethanol-fueled_ I was talking about the community
[11:56:16] <Ethanol-fueled_> I talk a lot of shit, but I'm a nobody compared to what a lot of you actually do.
[11:56:20] <Konomi> don;'t understand how you got that idea
[11:56:44] <crutchy> prolly just carried it forward from earlier
[11:57:26] <crutchy> still seems to be comments on the SN website though, which is good
[11:57:32] <crutchy> lots of variety of commenters
[11:58:13] <Konomi> in the end it may all just be an experiment to me
[11:58:23] <Ethanol-fueled_> An AI experiment
[11:58:24] <Konomi> I enjoy watching how the internet changes and communities form and vanish
[11:58:31] <Konomi> I'll enjoy watching it for a long time
[11:58:54] <Ethanol-fueled_> You want to control human thought? Human behavior?
[11:59:09] <Konomi> I have better things to do
[11:59:27] <crutchy> Konomi, without exec i might not still have been here. that damn bot has been so much fun, and SN seems to be much more bot-friendly than freenode (which i think came from xlefay)
[11:59:29] <Konomi> I just find the social movements online to be interesting in passing
[11:59:34] <Konomi> I have other things that take priority
[11:59:56] <Konomi> plus there are other people interested in "controling" it
[12:00:02] <Konomi> I'll leave them to their thrills
[12:00:11] <Konomi> more complication is always interesting
[12:00:39] <Ethanol-fueled_> Konomi, controlling the internet is simple -- call everything "racist" so people say only what you want them to say.
[12:00:45] <Ethanol-fueled_> or "sexist"
[12:00:48] <crutchy> Konomi, there's a bit of a core irc user group here (small albeit) that are good to chat with too. it's more friendly here than on freenode
[12:01:00] <Konomi> controlling people who react to it is just as easy
[12:01:05] <Konomi> they all fall into the trap
[12:01:34] <Konomi> most of the people of that opinion are just as manipulated
[12:01:40] <Konomi> amusing irony is the best irony
[12:02:35] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, is this where you raise your arms to the air and laugh maniacally as a gust of wind animates your cape?
[12:02:54] <Konomi> nah that's far to cliche I just listen to my audiobook some more
[12:03:28] <Konomi> feel free to it might be slightly amusing
[12:03:50] <Konomi> crutchy: the small offshot channels are always the best ;p
[12:03:59] <crutchy> #soylent is comfortable enough that i can admit to farting without feeling embarrassed
[12:04:24] <crutchy> and i won't be banned for being offtopic :p
[12:04:39] <crutchy> Konomi, yeah i think you're right about that
[12:05:36] <crutchy> i've been curious about audio books
[12:05:50] <Ethanol-fueled_> audio_books++
[12:05:50] <Bender> karma - audio_books: 1
[12:06:01] <crutchy> always wondered if i could learn kung fu subliminally
[12:06:03] <Ethanol-fueled_> 's how I "read" Nineteen Eighty-Four
[12:06:49] <crutchy> actually joking aside i do wonder if it would be possible to learn anything at all by falling asleep to an audio book
[12:07:01] <crutchy> maybe another language
[12:07:03] <Konomi> it is not
[12:07:20] <Ethanol-fueled_> damn, was hoping I could study by listening to recordings in my sleep.
[12:07:23] <crutchy> yeah i was a bit sceptical (otherwise i would have tried it long ago)
[12:07:34] <Konomi> the sub concious is more likely to absorb that information and is irrational
[12:08:01] <Ethanol-fueled_> Freudian.
[12:08:33] <Konomi> annoying guy way to static
[12:08:38] <crutchy> i dunno if ima gunna make it to midnight :/
[12:08:49] <Konomi> it's 52 minutes how can you be that tired?
[12:08:52] <crutchy> tried doing some cody stuff
[12:09:06] <crutchy> i made it so i can access a generic shell with my bot :D
[12:09:12] <Konomi> coding requires lots of eye movements per second than other activites
[12:09:15] <Konomi> why would you do that ;p
[12:09:32] <crutchy> i can even start a ssh session (i just can't yet send input to it after it starts)
[12:09:54] <crutchy> ~eval whoami
[12:09:55] <exec> jared
[12:10:05] <crutchy> ~eval buttsniff
[12:10:06] <exec> sh: 1: eval: buttsniff: not found
[12:10:10] <Konomi> ~eval logout
[12:10:55] <crutchy> had to make it operator only :p
[12:11:16] <Konomi> least you're making less mistakes now ~
[12:11:24] <crutchy> i'm sure poutine would say he could hack it
[12:11:45] <Konomi> poutine likes to talk about effort he'll never put in
[12:12:00] <chromas> Then he'd make some colored blocks and go idle
[12:12:02] <Konomi> I could make the same claim but I am far to lazy to bother
[12:12:06] <crutchy> lol
[12:12:22] <crutchy> i would believe a claim like that from you moreso than poutine
[12:12:26] <Konomi> if I was going to violate some crimninal laws I'd be busting into something more interesting than your pron collection
[12:12:33] <crutchy> lol
[12:12:39] <crutchy> you would be disappointed
[12:12:45] <chromas> Oh shit. Maybe he wears a helmet. That's why he plays with the blocks
[12:12:50] <Konomi> disappointed revolted etc
[12:12:52] <Konomi> ;p
[12:13:06] <crutchy> nah i don't have any pr0nz
[12:13:07] <Konomi> so bored
[12:13:08] <Ethanol-fueled_> storing porn on a puter? In this day and age?
[12:13:18] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled... true
[12:13:26] <Konomi> if it's not on your computer you don't own it
[12:13:31] <crutchy> that's why gawd invented broadband
[12:14:04] <Konomi> hope my SO wakes up so bored
[12:14:21] <crutchy> got any ice water?
[12:14:24] <Ethanol-fueled_> I'm kinda bored too. That's why I'm drinking.
[12:14:25] <Konomi> every conversation with other people like I've had the conversation before
[12:14:44] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, you're just too smart for people like us. You should look into joining the local MENSA chapter.
[12:14:45] <crutchy> yeah i'm not even into fart jokes tonight :/
[12:14:46] <Konomi> I've already met all of you at least people close enough to your personalities before
[12:15:00] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, you need to learn how to be easily amused.
[12:15:11] <Konomi> sigh I know my psychologist says I should go to university cause I'll only be bored where I am
[12:15:12] <Ethanol-fueled_> If you don't think Bugs Bunny cartoons are funny, you haven't lived.
[12:15:20] <crutchy> i visited the #anime channel on freenode
[12:15:25] <crutchy> some interesting people there
[12:15:33] <crutchy> but i still got bored pretty quick
[12:15:37] <Konomi> I got the omg girl greeting
[12:15:38] <Konomi> I left
[12:15:44] <crutchy> lol
[12:15:57] <Konomi> talk about forfilling stereotypes
[12:16:01] <crutchy> i'm still not 100% certain you're a chick
[12:16:06] <crutchy> but it doesn't matter anyway
[12:16:12] <Konomi> don't care ~
[12:16:30] <Ethanol-fueled_> There's a joke out there about Jewish princesses and Jello. But I'm not going to say it and I'm not going to state who I believe it applies to.
[12:16:34] <crutchy> you're just Konomi here :D
[12:16:39] <Konomi> if I had to go around and prove myself to every other guy every day of the week I'd have no time for what I want to do
[12:16:56] <Konomi> plus already did that a bunch of times
[12:17:00] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, you just need to hang with men like me who readily admit that they're stupid.
[12:17:20] <Konomi> it's amusing cause it's such a big deal then it's just back to the normal routine before they got
[12:17:23] <Konomi> "proof"
[12:17:34] <Konomi> obviously it was so important to get in the first place
[12:17:48] <Ethanol-fueled_> elaborate, konomi.
[12:17:55] <crutchy> maybe you could use their desire for proof against them
[12:17:57] <Konomi> do I have to it's kinda boring
[12:18:06] <Ethanol-fueled_> everything is boring.
[12:18:10] <crutchy> get them to do stupid shit like nigerian scammers do
[12:18:42] <crutchy> ima gunna make another coffee
[12:18:46] <Konomi> live in surburbia
[12:19:00] <Konomi> smell something burning like some idiots are having a bonfire for new years
[12:19:08] <Konomi> this species I swear
[12:19:20] <Ethanol-fueled_> This species is too immature.
[12:19:33] <Konomi> !grab Ethanol-fueled_
[12:19:33] <Bender> Added quote 329
[12:19:38] <Konomi> on your tomestone
[12:19:40] <Konomi> for extra irony
[12:19:43] <Ethanol-fueled_> Yeah, people doing stuff. That's pretty damn stupid.
[12:20:02] <Ethanol-fueled_> What's that thing the guy from catcher in the rye said? Phonies. Fakes.
[12:20:48] <Konomi> idk literature gets repeative after awhile
[12:21:08] <crutchy> wifey is watching a movie in bed. very quiet here tonight
[12:21:10] <Ethanol-fueled_> Yeah, I went though that whole phase years ago. I'm smart, everybody's stupid. People are fakes. Phonies. What's the point of anything?
[12:21:25] <Konomi> crutchy: lucky
[12:21:38] <Konomi> I have the bogan convetion meeting across the street
[12:22:02] <Konomi> and either a house is burning or they just discovered fire and felt like burning anything they could find
[12:22:10] <crutchy> bugger
[12:22:25] <Konomi> judging from the slight sting in my eyes probably something plastic
[12:22:31] <crutchy> we get the odd hoon convention nearby, and drunk idiots walking past
[12:22:44] <crutchy> aw that sucks
[12:23:18] <Ethanol-fueled_> Yeah, why do people have to get together and have fun? Why can't they just sit in their homes alone and brood all day? What are they talking about? Probably something stupid and pointless.
[12:23:26] <crutchy> later on we might get the idiots with the fire crackers firing them off everywhich way
[12:23:34] <Konomi> none of that yet
[12:24:02] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled_ in real life i'm very antisocial
[12:24:14] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, I can relate to that.
[12:24:28] <crutchy> my family is no. 1 and everything else can go get fked
[12:24:40] <Konomi> look on the up side crutchy by the time you retire you'll still have enough brain cells left to guide your spoon of corn flakes into your mouth
[12:24:43] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, I can sympathize with that.
[12:24:48] <Konomi> while the rest of your friends will be getting an IV drip
[12:24:52] <crutchy> lol
[12:25:05] <crutchy> i get along with people when i have to (like at work)
[12:25:20] <crutchy> i'm not unfriendly or impolite in rl. i just don't do social shit
[12:25:23] <Ethanol-fueled_> I'll probably turn into you when I finally knock up a missus and have a socially acceptable excuse to avoid assholes like me.
[12:25:28] <Konomi> crutchy: nods same here
[12:25:34] <Konomi> I do hate small talk though
[12:25:42] <Konomi> people who say "hi" for the hell of it and nothing else
[12:26:03] <crutchy> i came from a town of about 2000.... nothing goes on in a town that small without the whole town knowing about it
[12:26:10] <Konomi> yup
[12:27:23] <Konomi> mmn welcoming the new year with cynicism
[12:28:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook's "Year in Review" App: Not Just Annoying, It's Cruel - http://sylnt.us - sunrise-sunset
[12:28:50] <Ethanol-fueled_> I used to think like you both do. But that's not healthy. You are human. Well, assuming at least that you are human, having that attitude is every bit as unnatural as being a vegetarian.
[12:28:53] <Konomi> nice work their facebook lol
[12:28:54] <Ethanol-fueled_> Or Assexual.
[12:29:09] <Konomi> lol
[12:29:10] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[12:29:25] <Konomi> taking mental health advice from Ethanol-fueled_
[12:29:50] <Ethanol-fueled_> I know because I've been there. I've eaten out of trash cans. It almost cost me my life.
[12:30:22] <Konomi> you sound defeated to me
[12:31:21] <Ethanol-fueled_> Au contraire. I've had my abusive boss converted into a departmental gopher, saved a large chunk of our Asian business with a live demonstration, accepted to school and chugging along with straight-A's.
[12:31:42] <Ethanol-fueled_> I WAS defeated 8 years ago. And it nearly cost me my life.
[12:32:08] <Konomi> if you think so that's good
[12:32:25] <crutchy> made a miloffee instead :D
[12:32:29] <Konomi> actually it mise well be anything it doesn't matter
[12:32:53] <Konomi> forget I mentioned it just keep going in whatever direction you are going the conversation would have little gain for the effort
[12:33:12] <Ethanol-fueled_> Then you lead the charge for profound conversation.
[12:33:16] <Konomi> took me awhile to decode that crutchy ;p
[12:33:28] <Ethanol-fueled_> Or should I bow out and let you two lovebirds flirt in peace?
[12:33:31] <crutchy> you never had a miloffee?!
[12:33:36] <Konomi> did you actually mix coffee and milo or just make a hot milo?
[12:33:44] <Konomi> I generally avoid milo
[12:33:47] <crutchy> mix them
[12:33:48] <Konomi> because while it mixes well when hot
[12:33:51] <crutchy> tastes awesome
[12:33:54] <Konomi> it is a pain for cold drinks
[12:34:00] <Konomi> as it has a tendancy to be lighter than milk
[12:34:03] <Konomi> and not mix well
[12:34:08] <crutchy> yeah gotta be hot
[12:34:14] <Konomi> generally making quik be the winner in my cupboard
[12:34:28] <crutchy> i'd have an iced coffee but we haven't got any vanilla icecream atm
[12:34:37] <Ethanol-fueled_> iced_coffees++
[12:34:37] <Bender> karma - iced_coffees: 1
[12:34:39] <Konomi> though both have been getting cheaper in production for awhile
[12:34:48] <Konomi> as most flavoured milks in australia have been
[12:34:59] <Konomi> dark times perhaps \o/
[12:35:05] <crutchy> i have 2 fridges and both freezers are chock full of crap :/
[12:35:57] <crutchy> if i had a chest freezer i'd go buy one of those caterers buckets of chocolate icecream
[12:36:18] <crutchy> my sister bought me one of those years ago for my birthday
[12:36:23] <crutchy> she's awesome :D
[12:36:44] <Konomi> you going to do the stereotype of indulging in the bucket of ice cream on the couch while watching tv ;p
[12:37:00] <crutchy> nah they actually really hard to scoop from
[12:37:05] <Konomi> I always found that vastly amusing
[12:37:06] <crutchy> you just about need a shovel
[12:37:27] <Konomi> titanium spoons are needed for our ice cream that is for sure
[12:37:48] <crutchy> or a post hole digger :p
[12:37:54] <crutchy> that would be funny
[12:38:12] <Konomi> the image of a tub of ice cream stuck to a post hold digger spinning in circles is quite amusing
[12:38:47] <Konomi> okay time to give up on the idea of fresh air and seal the house
[12:39:01] * crutchy needs to take some panadol
[12:40:32] <Konomi> australia
[12:40:45] <Konomi> where unless you live within 10 km of a cbd of a major city
[12:40:53] <Konomi> you mise well be still in the outback
[12:41:14] <crutchy> i live in the middle of power station central
[12:41:28] <crutchy> aint no outback sky here that's for sure
[12:41:40] <crutchy> the smog layer is prolly as bad as in melbourne
[12:42:12] <Konomi> it's more the surrounding retards
[12:42:21] <Konomi> I thought I had escaped the idiots burning plastic in fires
[12:42:40] <Konomi> eyes are stinging I probably should've closed out the house sooner
[12:42:54] <crutchy> crank up the AC and fans maybe
[12:43:07] <Konomi> this house has no central air just a shitty wall unit
[12:44:05] <Konomi> need something like an air purifier
[12:44:13] <Konomi> fun fact
[12:44:22] <Konomi> when people feel sick from smoke it's two things
[12:44:47] <Konomi> one CO makes it harder to breath
[12:44:59] <Konomi> two the smell of smoke generally induces headaches
[12:45:08] <Konomi> that's why some people get bad headaches from smoke
[12:45:29] <crutchy> smoke is worse than fire
[12:45:38] <Konomi> yup
[12:45:52] <Konomi> the long term helth effects are the extremely small parties that gather in peoples lungs
[12:45:59] <Ethanol-fueled_> Not when it's WEED SMOKE Booya smoke weed erryday!
[12:46:02] <Konomi> even wood smoke is as bad as smoking
[12:46:07] <Ethanol-fueled_> Jah Rastafari!
[12:46:30] <Konomi> tasmania is actually the worst place ironically
[12:46:47] <Konomi> cold climate many houses using wood to warm them
[12:46:55] <Konomi> creates a very toxic enviroment
[12:47:25] <Konomi> http://www.theguardian.com
[12:47:26] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution | Cities | The Guardian
[12:47:28] <Konomi> fun read
[12:47:35] <Konomi> love the dome thing ha
[12:48:00] <crutchy> ~remind 12 min HAPPY NEW YEAR AUSTRALIA!
[12:48:08] <Ethanol-fueled_> China is stupid for many reasons. But the thing that pisses me off about them the most is that there's a one-child policy and a stigma for having girls.
[12:48:34] <Konomi> china might end up better than the usa and many other countries
[12:48:43] <crutchy> dammit i dunno if that worked
[12:48:43] <Ethanol-fueled_> ANd the best part about that is, that many men have to marry cousins and in-breed because there are no females with fresh DNA available.
[12:48:46] <crutchy> ~ps
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[12:48:55] <Ethanol-fueled_> OW MY EYES!
[12:49:00] <crutchy> hmm guess not
[12:49:01] <Konomi> as much as democracy is so awesome they have a government who can react to shitty situations without huge debates
[12:49:02] <crutchy> :)
[12:49:05] <crutchy> oops
[12:49:06] <crutchy> :(
[12:49:18] <crutchy> democracy is mob rule
[12:49:25] <crutchy> minorities be damned
[12:49:39] <Konomi> you also need an educated voter base for it to be healthy
[12:49:44] <crutchy> true
[12:50:08] <Ethanol-fueled_> apathy of the common people is the number-one cause of political bullshihttery.
[12:50:31] <Konomi> the apathy is not a root problem though it's a condition
[12:50:32] <Ethanol-fueled_> Back in the day, Greeks who did not engage in civic duty were shamed with the title "Idiota"
[12:50:37] <crutchy> america is facing the opposite... even worse... nanny mentality
[12:50:57] <Konomi> nanny mentality can work
[12:51:05] <Konomi> but the risk is it'll turn facsist eventually
[12:51:14] <Ethanol-fueled_> Konomi, you seem to be authoritarian.
[12:51:16] <crutchy> even communism is good in theory
[12:51:25] <crutchy> humans are pigs though
[12:51:29] <Konomi> yup
[12:51:33] <Ethanol-fueled_> You said it there.
[12:51:34] <Konomi> lack balance
[12:51:55] <Ethanol-fueled_> humans have not reached the level of Vulcans.
[12:51:59] <Konomi> always with the extremes
[12:52:12] <Konomi> vulcans were pretty flawed
[12:52:18] <crutchy> dammit that miloffee wasn't enough to satisfy. need another
[12:52:29] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, they were flawed. Until they became all logical and whatnot.
[12:52:37] <Konomi> they were still flawed
[12:52:50] <Konomi> there was multiple instances in the series where it became obvious they had shifted their problems
[12:52:54] <Konomi> rather than addressing them
[12:53:02] <crutchy> and their sex is just creepy
[12:53:06] <Konomi> still ahead of humans but they took the la la not listening route for too many things
[12:53:14] <Ethanol-fueled_> huh.
[12:53:32] <Konomi> they supressed their emotions rather than dealing with them
[12:53:49] <crutchy> and they say 'however' alot. or was that just tuvuk
[12:54:15] <Konomi> saying however a lot was just to imply that they always approuch situations in a probablistic manner
[12:54:27] <crutchy> i like logic
[12:54:36] <Konomi> logic is good
[12:54:42] <crutchy> not enough of it
[12:54:57] <crutchy> i think that's why i enjoy programming
[12:54:59] <Konomi> preaching to the converted with that statement
[12:55:48] <Konomi> 5 minutes btw crutchy
[12:55:55] <crutchy> yup
[12:56:01] <crutchy> i made it woohoo
[12:56:09] <crutchy> i should go to bed at 11.59 :p
[12:56:10] <Konomi> the arbitary integer is counting up
[12:56:35] <crutchy> any new years resolutions you care to share?
[12:56:50] <Konomi> nope
[12:56:55] <Konomi> don't do that stuff
[12:57:07] <crutchy> me neither. i used to be all into goals and stuff
[12:57:11] <crutchy> now i just go to work
[12:57:18] <Konomi> goal keep breathing \o/
[12:57:31] <Konomi> achived like a boss?
[12:57:52] <crutchy> fireworks dickheads have started already
[12:58:24] <Konomi> wheeling bin shields activate?
[12:58:26] <Konomi> wheely*
[12:58:53] <Ethanol-fueled_> achieved_like_a_boss++
[12:58:53] <Bender> karma - achieved_like_a_boss: 1
[12:59:09] <Ethanol-fueled_> Lot of hard work this year. LOT of hard work.
[13:00:13] <Konomi> lots of work in arbitarly time length
[13:00:24] <Konomi> Day changed to 01 Jan 2015
[13:00:47] <Konomi> hey crutchy we have fireworks here too ho ho
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[13:04:22] <Konomi> great nothing changed back to work everyone \o/
[13:06:41] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, it's a goddamn shame that you don't like fireworks.
[13:06:48] <crutchy> HAPPY NEW YEAR!
[13:06:58] <crutchy> i don't mind fireworks
[13:07:07] <Ethanol-fueled_> YEAAAAAAAHHHHH
[13:07:11] <crutchy> i just went outside with the missus to see if we could see any
[13:07:36] <crutchy> next door neighbour's dogs escaped :p
[13:08:14] <Konomi> dogs generally don't like fireworks
[13:08:16] <ar> oh, you already have 2015 in australia?
[13:08:20] <ar> s/dogs/animals/
[13:08:26] <Konomi> yeah it's the au time machine
[13:08:52] <crutchy> nice to kiss someone at midnight
[13:09:00] <crutchy> i'd kiss you guys but you taste all coppery
[13:09:19] <Konomi> fiber tastes better
[13:09:56] <crutchy> ar, we promise we won't stink up the new year too much before it gets to you :p
[13:10:15] <Ethanol-fueled_> https://www.youtube.com
[13:10:15] <Hedonismbot> ^ 035150 van halen - YouTube
[13:10:25] <Ethanol-fueled_> YEEEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
[13:10:43] * Konomi np: Daft Punk - Aerodynamic - Electronic - 2001.flac :: 24M :: DeaDBeef 0.6.2
[13:10:50] <crutchy> noice
[13:10:54] <crutchy> daft_punk++
[13:10:54] <Bender> karma - daft_punk: 1
[13:11:00] <crutchy> wtf. only 2?
[13:11:05] <crutchy> s/2/1/
[13:11:05] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> wtf. only 1?
[13:12:12] <crutchy> even the fireworks here were a bit disappointing
[13:12:21] <crutchy> a couple of decent sized ones but not much
[13:13:09] <crutchy> test_to_see_if_my_interwebz_just_dropped_out++
[13:13:09] <Bender> karma - test_to_see_if_my_interwebz_just_dropped_out: 1
[13:13:13] <crutchy> :)
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[13:13:47] <Ethanol-fueled_> That feel when firefox is so unusable from a hotel wifi and midori requests that it be allowed to crash while watching said youtube video :/
[13:14:12] <Ethanol-fueled_> Midori must leak memory like a sieve.
[13:14:21] <Konomi> use youtube-dl and watch it locally
[13:14:49] <Ethanol-fueled_> Thanks, konomi. You're not such a bad gal after all.
[13:15:13] <crutchy> :D
[13:16:05] <crutchy> i'd hate to piss her off real bad. she prolly go all swordfish on moy ass
[13:16:23] <ar> what is it like? did the earth explode? ;)
[13:16:30] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, I was convinced that some bastard here messed with my computer.
[13:16:35] * crutchy licks the air
[13:16:42] <crutchy> hmm shitty as always
[13:16:49] <crutchy> nope. nothin changed
[13:17:42] <Konomi> no one has messed with my computer
[13:17:53] <Konomi> my firewall logs for active services haven't even had an entry for a few months
[13:17:55] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, that was a funny comment earlier about the plastic burning. I've been to a few big music shows here and inevitably bonfires are started. And some dumbfucks throw plastic in those fires.
[13:17:56] <crutchy> langoliers might not be far away though :p
[13:18:03] <Konomi> love that movie
[13:19:28] <crutchy> when i went outside before there was smoke in the air, but not to bad thankfully. the air around here is usually pretty crap anyway i'm prolly used to it
[13:20:03] <crutchy> i never had really bad athsma till i moved down into this shithole
[13:21:25] <Ethanol-fueled_> Damn, that sucks.
[13:22:08] <Ethanol-fueled_> athsma is a big issue in this hometown as well, because there are a lot of controlled burns (for agricultural reasons), generally dust errywhere, and pesticides from crop-dusting.
[13:22:28] <Ethanol-fueled_> Being_in_your_hometown_drunk++
[13:22:28] <Bender> karma - being_in_your_hometown_drunk: 1
[13:23:07] <Ethanol-fueled_> we have the most polluted river in North America, and have had the highest rate of teen pregnancy for some years as well.
[13:25:29] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled_, i live in the middle of 5 and a half thousand megawatt of brown coal-fired power stations
[13:25:36] <Konomi> you must be in a bible belt state then?
[13:26:51] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, that truly sucks.
[13:27:16] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, if you were talking to me, no, not a bible-belt state....but progressive California.
[13:27:22] <Konomi> crutchy: it's okay coal is good for humanity
[13:27:45] <Ethanol-fueled_> http://en.wikipedia.org
[13:27:46] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Imperial Valley
[13:28:02] <crutchy> sucks health-wise, but its good job wise. it sits on top of the biggest known shallow brown coal seam in the world, and the rate that we use electricity in australia the coal power industry aint goin away any time soon
[13:28:05] <Ethanol-fueled_> Even California isn't all it's cracked up to be.
[13:28:32] <Konomi> hmm
[13:28:34] <Konomi> you sure?
[13:28:36] <Konomi> "Statistics also vary regionally. In 2008, New Mexico had the highest teenage pregnancy rate (93 per 1,000); rates in Mississippi, Texas, Nevada and Arkansas followed. The lowest rates were in New Hampshire (33 per 1,000), followed by Vermont, Minnesota, North Dakota and Massachusetts.[1] In New England, most states had less than 20 births per 1,000 girls."
[13:28:53] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, am I correct in assuming that both you and I use our powers for the forces of evil to earn our paychecks?
[13:29:21] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, your staticstics are by state, not county.
[13:29:35] <Ethanol-fueled_> And I'm not saying that we had the lead in all years by county, just some.
[13:29:41] <crutchy> i don't work directly for the power companies so my conscience is clear uhuh :D
[13:29:43] <Konomi> oh country yeah
[13:29:52] <Konomi> I was referring to state though
[13:29:53] <Ethanol-fueled_> county, not country.
[13:30:10] <crutchy> its past bed time for Konomi too :p
[13:30:14] <Ethanol-fueled_> counties are provinces within provinces.
[13:30:20] <Konomi> your mention was about a river so I expected the follow up context of teen pregancy to be state related not country
[13:30:36] <crutchy> maybe its the most pregnant river
[13:30:49] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, that's what makes it worse. As progressive as California is, it has an asshole.
[13:31:01] <Ethanol-fueled_> And that asshole is Imperial County. http://en.wikipedia.org
[13:31:17] <Konomi> lol
[13:31:18] <Ethanol-fueled_> My home. (heart)
[13:31:35] <Ethanol-fueled_> I am here now, in El Centro.
[13:32:03] <crutchy> has the GOP started taking over CA yet?
[13:32:16] <crutchy> i heard the dems got pretty hammered in the mids
[13:32:35] <crutchy> not that i care for either party. they both suck
[13:32:41] <Konomi> rubble rubble democrats are bad republicans get in rubble rubble republicans are bad democrats get in
[13:32:56] <crutchy> Konomi, pretty much
[13:33:05] <Konomi> so glad we have third parties here
[13:33:16] <Ethanol-fueled_> The libs wil always own California, for two reasons: Los Angeles and San Francisco.
[13:33:22] <crutchy> hopefully our minor parties get a bit bigger
[13:33:27] <Konomi> yup
[13:33:38] <Ethanol-fueled_> the proposal to split California has been the subject of much ridicule in the media.
[13:33:38] <Konomi> I'd rather have 4 groups of people arguing the issues
[13:33:42] <Konomi> instead of 2 groups
[13:33:44] <crutchy> dunno about that palmer dude though
[13:33:56] <Konomi> they tend to start agreeing with each other too much and start screwing over the public
[13:34:06] <Ethanol-fueled_> I actually live in the only major metropolitan area with a large conservative component, and that's thanks to the military.
[13:34:15] <Konomi> 2 party system has far too much overlap
[13:34:16] <ciri> 3
[13:34:25] <Konomi> ciri-- # burn
[13:34:25] <Bender> karma - ciri: -35
[13:34:45] <crutchy> australia has a libertarian party now apparently, but their website is an embarrassment
[13:34:49] <Ethanol-fueled_> I hate both far-left and far-right, though. Just take my tax dollars to provide basic services and leave politics the fuck out of social issues.
[13:35:05] <Konomi> crutchy: the "liberal" party right right?
[13:35:13] <Konomi> I hate how arse backwards they are with that name
[13:35:15] <crutchy> liberals suck
[13:35:20] <Ethanol-fueled_> let me legally buy marijuana. Let gays marry. Both of those things are none of the state's fucking business.
[13:35:24] <crutchy> labor sucks
[13:35:26] <Konomi> gonna be the greepeace party
[13:35:31] <Konomi> and say I hate whales
[13:35:35] <Konomi> makes as much sense
[13:36:09] <Ethanol-fueled_> Those two issues, among others, should be non-issues in that they should be left to individual choice and not fucked-with by law.
[13:36:11] <crutchy> i think i'm definitely libertarian. i like the government getting out of the way of personal habits and not squandering taxpayer dollars
[13:36:14] <Konomi> I guess they're liberal for the corporations just not us dirty peasents ;p
[13:36:35] <Ethanol-fueled_> my philosophy is, if you're smoking crack and blowing goats, then do it all you want as long as you're not fucking with me.
[13:36:43] <crutchy> yup
[13:36:51] <Konomi> that's never going to happen crutchy
[13:36:57] <crutchy> i know
[13:37:01] <Ethanol-fueled_> Too many control-freaks on both sides of the political spectrum. Nanny-statists. Overbearing patriarchs.
[13:37:06] <Konomi> our parties have been buying the middle class/boomer vote with middle class welfare fora ges
[13:37:15] <Konomi> no way could you ween the majority voter base off of it now
[13:37:30] <Konomi> they're used to getting their cake and that cake being the size of their bathtub to swim in
[13:37:31] <crutchy> australia is on its way to fucking itself up its own arse just like america
[13:37:38] <Ethanol-fueled_> Konomi, the baby-boomers need to be marched to death.
[13:37:45] <Konomi> yup
[13:37:49] <Ethanol-fueled_> Thrown into fucking pits and shot execution-style.
[13:37:50] <Konomi> most selfish demographic I know
[13:38:03] <Konomi> they like to whine about younger generations but they're the biggest fucking hyprocrits on the planet
[13:38:11] <Ethanol-fueled_> They fucked everything up.
[13:38:19] <Ethanol-fueled_> They're the reason why everything's fucked up now.
[13:38:29] <Konomi> they embody the "screw you got mine" mentality to perfection
[13:38:36] <crutchy> i'm sure our generation will fuck things up for our kids though
[13:38:41] <crutchy> we're no better
[13:38:46] <Konomi> we won't
[13:38:53] <Konomi> there will always be that aspect of generations
[13:38:58] <Konomi> it will just never get as bad as boomers
[13:39:06] <Ethanol-fueled_> As much as I hate millenials, kids aren't stupid.
[13:39:09] <Konomi> cause no one demographic in the future will wield enough of a majority vote to cause it
[13:39:20] <Konomi> the fact there is so many of them is what reinforces their belief they can be selfish
[13:39:30] <Konomi> and really from a pure mechanical stand point they can
[13:39:34] <crutchy> i think the future is gunna be scary
[13:39:40] <Konomi> doesn't make it moral though
[13:39:52] <crutchy> we're overdue for another world war
[13:40:02] <Konomi> no demographic will be as bad as them
[13:40:06] <Ethanol-fueled_> Let's hope they will fix this. They will make it sound scary, because it's the only option of placating both sides.
[13:40:12] <Konomi> causes no demographic after them will have the majority they do
[13:40:22] <Konomi> the world will burn first
[13:40:25] <Konomi> our species is shit
[13:40:37] <Ethanol-fueled_> no demographic after them will believe that they are joining the military to fight for freedom and goodness.
[13:40:53] <Ethanol-fueled_> In America, at least.
[13:40:55] <Konomi> shoot people morals forfilled \o/
[13:40:59] <Ethanol-fueled_> That we have on our side.
[13:41:09] <Konomi> war will be rare now
[13:41:12] <Konomi> it's all micro wars now
[13:41:24] <Konomi> we probably won't have any more world wars
[13:41:26] <crutchy> and proxy wars
[13:41:31] <Konomi> just many little wars you might never hear about
[13:41:31] <Ethanol-fueled_> economic wars.
[13:41:45] <crutchy> i reckon china is the country to watch
[13:41:47] <Konomi> the future will definitly be dystopia
[13:41:57] <crutchy> i posted a comment about it in that cia article
[13:41:57] <Konomi> with a crap load of technology
[13:42:02] <Ethanol-fueled_> Which don't mean much of the whole worldwide economic system is voodoo and untrustworthy.
[13:42:03] <Konomi> that's the only silver lining for me
[13:42:06] <Konomi> more tech to mess with
[13:42:13] <crutchy> terminator future
[13:42:17] <crutchy> :D
[13:42:22] <Konomi> I have doubts AI will be viable
[13:42:32] <Konomi> at least to the level needed for that
[13:42:42] <Konomi> computers really really really suck at fuzzy logic
[13:42:47] <Konomi> and it's extremely hard for them to do
[13:42:50] <crutchy> maybe not truly intelligent AI like us, but computers that can kill.... definitely
[13:43:01] <Konomi> sure they'll replace a ton of jobs cause they're good enough
[13:43:08] <Konomi> but to do the fuzzy logic at a human level?
[13:43:10] <Konomi> maybe never
[13:43:23] <Ethanol-fueled_> Konomi, the few remaining willing soldiers will hear about others being accidentally shot to death and will stand steadfast afgainst it, just as pilots have stood public against the F-22's faulty OBOGS.
[13:43:35] <Konomi> if we knew more about human brains we could make a better prediction though
[13:43:37] <crutchy> skynet doesn't have to be intelligent. it just has to be goal-oriented
[13:43:41] <crutchy> kill all humans
[13:43:59] <Konomi> there's a good chance human brains for example may already be near the limit for doing fuzzy logic
[13:44:19] <Ethanol-fueled_> Robocop even had a backdoor built-in, but it wasn't enough to prevent him from killing Dick Jones.
[13:44:21] <Konomi> transitor technology may never be good enough to get close due to physical limits etc
[13:44:40] <Konomi> the abstraction might be just too hard to create
[13:44:55] <crutchy> my poor little miss 6 has a bad cough :(
[13:44:58] <Ethanol-fueled_> Konomi, I like to take the Hannibal Lecter approach to quantifying human behavior -- it will never happen.
[13:45:05] <Konomi> the most telling thing for me though is that humans blow at hard logic
[13:45:07] <crutchy> sucks when kids get sick
[13:45:14] <Konomi> that's why I have the feeling that machines will blow at fuzzy logic
[13:45:57] <crutchy> that's why machines will be exceedingly efficient if/when they achieve mechanical independence
[13:46:00] <Konomi> though on one aspect if machines do surpass the human brain you get to live forever
[13:46:09] <Konomi> since you could be downloaded \o/
[13:46:11] <crutchy> they don't have to worry about thinking things through, morality, etc
[13:46:27] <Konomi> well a form of you
[13:46:30] <Ethanol-fueled_> Konomi, that's only "living forever" in the sense that you have a kid and your DNA and stories live on.
[13:46:36] <Konomi> but that's all philospohical guess work
[13:46:37] <crutchy> they will identify a human and wipe it out
[13:46:40] <Ethanol-fueled_> When your meatbag dies, YOU DIE>
[13:46:51] <Konomi> you can't quanitfy that yet
[13:46:52] <Ethanol-fueled_> You cease to exist. Worm-food. Fade to Black
[13:47:05] <Konomi> we don't know enough about conciousness to know that
[13:47:09] <crutchy> there's prolly some time till your brain activity fully ceased
[13:47:19] <crutchy> to be irrecoverable
[13:47:30] <crutchy> eventually we might have brain transplants
[13:47:32] <Konomi> a theory in some movie I recall was the concious is a thread throughout time
[13:47:47] <Konomi> break it reattach it or even have two branching off
[13:47:49] <Konomi> who knows
[13:47:57] <Ethanol-fueled_> konomi, that was in DS9 when Cisco first experiences the founders.
[13:48:05] <Konomi> it's all mental masturbation at this point though
[13:48:20] <crutchy> mental_masturbation++
[13:48:21] <Bender> karma - mental_masturbation: 1
[13:48:25] <Ethanol-fueled_> er...the watchers. WHatever the fuck they were called.
[13:48:27] <crutchy> !grab Konomi
[13:48:27] <Bender> Added quote 330
[13:48:28] <crutchy> :D
[13:48:33] <Konomi> damn you ;p
[13:48:47] <Konomi> anyway first step will be abstraction our senses into the internet to see how viable that is
[13:49:00] <Konomi> ya know what I don't need to talk about it
[13:49:00] <Ethanol-fueled_> https://www.youtube.com
[13:49:01] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Jackyl - Mental Masturbation - YouTube
[13:49:06] <Konomi> plenty of sci fi covers it
[13:49:07] <crutchy> ooh permanently connected to da pr0nz
[13:49:35] <crutchy> Konomi, you ever read any Michael Crichton books?
[13:49:37] <Konomi> crutchy: will be intersting to see if people become like that labratory test
[13:49:47] <Ethanol-fueled_> crutchy, can I opt to be permanently connected to '70s porn? Real curvy women, sultry voices, and somewhat attempted plots?
[13:49:54] <crutchy> and big hair
[13:49:57] <Konomi> "You're like that rat that keeps hitting the pleasure button istead of the food button and dies"
[13:49:58] <Ethanol-fueled_> YEAH
[13:50:03] <crutchy> lol
[13:50:03] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[13:50:08] <crutchy> yeah i would so be that rat
[13:50:11] <Konomi> people are barely mature enough for what we currently have
[13:50:28] <Konomi> I can only imagine the adhorant stupidity if we were able to abstract ourselves into a virtual world
[13:50:29] <crutchy> anyway, i reckon you'd like Michael Crichton
[13:50:38] <crutchy> he's the guy that wrote Jurassic Park
[13:50:45] <crutchy> but he writes other good stuff
[13:50:53] <Konomi> ideally I'd like to have the human race take another 500 years to mature but I doubt they wold
[13:51:02] <Konomi> mise well shove the technology ahead now
[13:51:06] <Ethanol-fueled_> look at you all with your edgy existentialist anxiety, as if you're better than everybody else but really in the emotional equivalent of your mid-twenties.
[13:51:16] <Konomi> least that way the less stupid can escape the stupid to a degree
[13:51:57] <Konomi> for example my observations on the internet have been that most of the people who have little patience for the mundane are shrinking and also at the same time condensing into smaller segments on the net
[13:52:00] <crutchy> http://en.wikipedia.org
[13:52:00] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Michael Crichton
[13:52:05] <Ethanol-fueled_> The human race is fucked.
[13:52:15] <Ethanol-fueled_> Only racism will save it.
[13:52:23] <crutchy> eventually we'll destroy ourselves
[13:52:24] <Konomi> unfortuantly the reaction of educated people is generally to avoid raving retards
[13:52:30] <Ethanol-fueled_> The 'Menace is encroaching on your logical way of life.
[13:52:34] <crutchy> prolly with some kind of biological weapon run amok
[13:52:45] <Ethanol-fueled_> What will you do/ when the 'Menace comes for you?
[13:52:46] <Konomi> while this saves them from the annoying shits it could cost them in the long term
[13:53:22] <Konomi> unlike music genres human behavior has still not normalised into a balance
[13:53:42] <crutchy> well, i might leave you two to solve the world's problems. i gotta go to bed or i'll be a grumpy daddy in the morning
[13:54:00] <Konomi> I'm just a bit air headed
[13:54:11] <crutchy> or lack-of-air headed
[13:54:12] <Konomi> I'm going to write down my ranting to the inhaling of smoke fumes if I need an excuse
[13:54:17] <Ethanol-fueled_> I'm getting drunk. and it's 6am now where I am.
[13:54:19] <crutchy> hope the smoke doesn't get too bad
[13:54:27] <Konomi> shouldbe okay now I sealed the house
[13:54:30] <Ethanol-fueled_> EL CENTRO! FUCK YEAH
[13:54:37] <Konomi> my eyes don't hurt but I get headaches from certain odors
[13:54:44] <Konomi> smoking smoke etc
[13:55:01] <crutchy> ~g'night Konomi, Ethanol-fueled_, all and sundry... and happy new year and stuff :D
[13:55:02] * exec covertly tosses a cold can of spew to Konomi, Ethanol-fueled_, all and sundry... and happy new year and stuff :D
[13:55:03] <Konomi> pretty sure kmost people get freaking headaches from plastic though
[13:55:07] <Ethanol-fueled_> Pesticides! FUCK YEAH! Carcinogens! FUCK YEAH! Arson! FUCK YEAH! Drug cartels! FUCK YEAH
[13:55:18] <Konomi> sounds like a team america song
[13:55:22] <Konomi> see you crutchy
[13:55:49] <Ethanol-fueled_> Meth! FUCK YEAH! Teen pregnancy! FUCK YEAH! Shotguns! FUCK YEAH! Quads! FUCK YEAH!
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[14:00:57] <Konomi> few no more need to worry about having to interact with him
[14:10:59] <Subsentient> How the FUCK do I force a constant bitrate with ffmpeg!?
[14:10:59] <ciri> not sure
[14:11:07] <Subsentient> I'm converting m4a to mp3
[14:12:02] <Konomi> probably cbr sec
[14:13:05] <Konomi> -b:a 320k
[14:13:16] <Konomi> tact that onto your params
[14:13:37] <Subsentient> Konomi: It ignored it
[14:13:38] <Subsentient> that's the problem
[14:13:45] <Konomi> what's your string?
[14:13:56] <Subsentient> ffmpeg -i Zealot\ -\ 04.\ Undercat\ \(feat.\ Zealot\).m4a -b:a 320k -minrate 320k -maxrate 320k -bufsize 2048k -vsync 2 Zealot\ -\ 04.\ Undercat\ \(feat.\ Zealot\).mp3
[14:14:15] <Konomi> remove minrate and maxrate
[14:14:27] <Subsentient> It still doesn't work
[14:14:30] <Subsentient> I added those because it didn't work
[14:14:43] <Konomi> -codec:a libmp3lame
[14:14:44] <Konomi> add that
[14:15:13] <Subsentient> Konomi: it ignored it
[14:15:24] * Subsentient fucking hates this shit
[14:15:24] <Konomi> try this
[14:16:19] <Konomi> ffmpeg -i input.m4a -codec:a libmp3lame -b:a 320k output.mp3
[14:16:32] <Konomi> problem is they changed the syntax between versions
[14:16:40] <Konomi> gives me the well yeah
[14:18:45] <Subsentient> Konomi: it ignored it
[14:19:11] <Konomi> what does mediainfo say on the final file?
[14:20:04] <Konomi> mediainfo *.mp3 | grep 'Overall bit rate mode'
[14:20:11] <Konomi> just in case
[14:20:25] <Subsentient> It's 320kbps
[14:20:39] <Konomi> Overall bit rate mode is what will tell you if it came out as cbr
[14:20:45] <Konomi> should say "Constant"
[14:20:57] <ar> isn't high-profile vbr better overall than cbr?
[14:21:04] <ar> as in, producing better results
[14:21:18] <Konomi> generally but I presume there is a reason Subsentient wants it in cbr
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[14:21:44] <Subsentient> I'm getting 50kbps on an audio file ar
[14:21:50] <Subsentient> I want 320, what the source file has
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[14:21:56] <Subsentient> It deteriorates during conversion
[14:22:30] <Konomi> what did mediainfo say about your output?
[14:23:57] <Konomi> another option is to convert it to wave then do the conversion process on the wav
[14:24:10] <Konomi> or say flac
[14:29:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oldest Stone Tool Ever Found Discovered in Turkey - http://sylnt.us - prosperous-Bosporous
[14:34:20] <Konomi> Subsentient: any luck?
[14:34:34] <Subsentient> Konomi: Yes! Your flac solution worked!
[14:34:34] <Subsentient> Thank you!
[14:34:39] <Konomi> hehe
[14:34:55] <Konomi> still surprised it wouldn't behave
[14:35:34] <Subsentient> yeh I've always had lots of trouble with ffmpeg misbehaving
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[16:31:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Worm Discovered in South Korean Nuclear Control Systems - http://sylnt.us - 2hot-on-the-trail
[16:47:47] <Blackmoore> https://www.packtpub.com
[16:47:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Packt Publishing
[16:48:03] <Blackmoore> $5 ebooks on programming
[16:52:28] <paulej72> hello all. just getting over a cold that was draining my energy for the last few days.
[16:52:28] <ciri> hello, whats up paulej72
[17:00:11] <Blackmoore> hi paulej72
[17:00:11] <ciri> hello, whats up Blackmoore
[17:01:15] <Blackmoore> not much going on in here..
[17:01:39] <Blackmoore> EF was on yesterday and i just avoided the channle
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[17:37:00] <nick> im curious, anyone here ever used 'Uber'?
[17:44:01] <paulej72> no not a city person
[17:45:04] <nick> see a new bit of news on Uber what seems like every other day, yet don't know anyone who has used the service.
[17:48:52] <Blackmoore> i know one person who did, and cripes. i couldnt belive what i heard.
[17:49:22] <Blackmoore> picked up late; dropped off at completely wrong location. very nearly sexually assaulted.
[17:49:53] <Blackmoore> sure I've seen stuff by drivers who talk about it being a hook up tool, but wtf.
[17:50:18] <nick> i dont even know what to say
[17:50:35] <Blackmoore> and i was thinking about singing up as a driver.
[17:50:59] <Blackmoore> but who the hell wants to be saddled with "possible rapist"
[17:51:36] <nick> i think there are so many issues with it, beyond that
[17:51:55] <nick> the legal, tax and insurance implications which Uber responds with "lalalalala, not listening, lalalalal"
[17:53:03] <nick> and i really doubt it's a good way to make a living, even if you follow the company policy of ignoring those factors
[17:55:30] <Blackmoore> well insurace is dodgy
[17:55:59] <Blackmoore> but all i need is a 1099 form for the taxes.
[17:56:20] <nick> well, it obviously depends on your location, but they're operating in like 200 cities now, all with very different rules on these things
[17:56:40] <Blackmoore> legal? eh do i considermyself a taxi or a person who occasionally shares a ride
[17:56:46] <nick> and they havn't, as far as i have seen, done anything to actually comply with taxi/cab regulations in those place.
[17:56:56] <nick> and thats the logic being used
[17:57:01] <nick> "well it's not a taxi"
[17:57:13] <nick> except when you're not being a dick about it, it really is a taxi service
[17:57:14] <Blackmoore> right - but getting a taxi cert in most places is obscene
[17:57:36] <Blackmoore> and in part that's to keep people OUT
[17:57:40] <nick> thats like the london thing though, getting a black cab licence is absurd
[17:57:51] <nick> but being a mini-cab, like what uber provides
[17:57:55] <nick> actually has a very low barrier to entry
[17:58:10] <nick> and thats been a problem for years argued over here
[17:58:17] <nick> it's too easy to be a mini-cab
[17:58:26] <nick> there are not enough checks on the drivers, they dont know what they're doing
[17:58:35] <Blackmoore> again - depends on location. I have to deal with laws designed for NYC - that make no sense on this side of the state
[17:58:43] <nick> and uber, removes all those checks that until uber came along, was not enough.
[17:59:14] <nick> so we have heavily regulated services, a lightly regulated service, and now an unregulated service
[18:00:20] <nick> if you can apply the "not really a taxi" logic to uber and that holds up, then i would assume you could apply a similar logic to a prostitution service also
[18:01:12] <nick> there is a need to shake things up, because the old monopolies are not reasonable
[18:01:21] <nick> uber doesn't seem to be the solution to me
[18:02:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IBM Builds New Form of Memory that Could Advance Brain-Inspired Computers - http://sylnt.us - 2weighting-to-see
[18:02:11] <Blackmoore> i see some kind of rideshare network as a solution; but someone will always game that and act as a taxi.
[18:02:28] <nick> it's all perfectly legal, just like bouncing your corporate profits around 36 different countries for 'tax efficiency' is legal
[18:04:03] <nick> when you're an unregulated independent operator providing a rideshare/taxi service, you're going to be in a very tight spot if someone accuses you of assault or fraud
[18:05:03] <nick> the risk is very much on both sides, as the person taking the ride is at risk, like the person you mentioned, and as the driver being accused of something they didnt do
[18:08:19] <nick> obviously that will always be the minority, but as an independent operator the one time it does happen to you, you're on your own and you can bet the service provider will be very willing to show how seriously they take these accusations
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[18:20:03] <nick> and the BSOD returns >:
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[18:46:03] <Blackmoore> yeah m$
[18:48:51] <nick> i have a feeling the BSOD's i get are hardware related :/
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[19:03:31] <Blackmoore> ew.
[19:06:27] <JamesNZ> Happy new year everyone \o
[19:12:25] <SirFinkus> got 13 hours here
[19:15:41] <JamesNZ> Well, the future is looking bright.
[19:21:22] <Leebert> JamesNZ: You sure that's not a nuke detonation?
[19:24:11] <JamesNZ> Leebert: Quite sure, I've still got my hair :)
[19:42:31] <Blackmoore> you mean we'll still have light in the future?
[19:44:40] <JamesNZ> Yep.
[19:52:17] <JamesNZ> yakuake++
[19:52:17] <Bender> karma - yakuake: 1
[19:53:04] <Blackmoore> wooooowwwwww
[19:53:32] <Blackmoore> (e gads this is going to be a long day in the office. )
[19:54:16] <JamesNZ> Working on New Year's Eve? :|
[20:02:06] <janrinok> HAPPY NEW YEAR to all at SN. See you guys in 2015!
[20:03:34] <Blackmoore> yep. end of year crap.
[20:03:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Canadian CEO: Reward Directors' Poor Performance With A Hefty Raise - http://sylnt.us - or-fire-those-that-do-not-perform-well
[20:03:47] <Blackmoore> not even sure if I'll be out for ball drop
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[20:11:58] <Blackmoore> http://amultiverse.com
[20:11:59] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Scenes From A Multiverse » Life In An Ordinary Multiverse by Jon Rosenberg
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[21:56:36] <crutchy> mornin
[21:56:43] <crutchy> happy spew beer
[21:56:51] <JamesNZ> ~gday crutchy
[21:56:52] * exec accidentally offers a blagoblag of skittles to crutchy
[21:57:39] <SirFinkus> how's 2015 treating you crutchy?
[21:58:05] <SirFinkus> 2014 was kind of shitty for me, hoping the next year will be better, and you have the inside scoop
[22:00:04] <juggs> ~g'day crutchy
[22:00:06] * exec diabolically blows a coffee++ mug of beer at crutchy
[22:05:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - When The FISA Court Rejects A Surveillance Request, FBI Just Issues A NSL - http://sylnt.us - exempt-from-the-law-of-the-land
[22:06:30] <crutchy> ~gday SirFinkus, juggs
[22:06:31] * exec covertly flings a socket of coffee at SirFinkus, juggs
[22:06:43] <crutchy> 2015 kinda stinks as much as 2014 so far
[22:07:16] <juggs> not got there yet, but 2014 hasn't been great
[22:07:33] <SirFinkus> aww, that's a pity
[22:08:02] <JamesNZ> She'll be right moite.
[22:10:23] <crutchy> hmm. i just sat down and realised i left my coffee on the bench :/
[22:10:31] <SirFinkus> oh lol, commercial for weight loss pills, with stock footage of fat people reaching into bowls of fried chicken with sad music playing in the background
[22:11:12] <crutchy> 'mom look... i'm on tv!'
[22:11:54] <SirFinkus> it almost seemed like a parody commercial
[22:12:26] <SirFinkus> apparently one of the side effects is unspecified "mental problems"
[22:12:56] <juggs> amphetamine type pill then?
[22:13:33] <crutchy> maybe ice. i hear beating up your family is good exercise
[22:13:33] <SirFinkus> unlikely
[22:14:03] <SirFinkus> it isn't socially acceptable to prescribe those drugs to lose weight
[22:14:38] <crutchy> you have to ask permission from the FBI first
[22:15:08] <crutchy> nanny'murca
[22:15:35] <juggs> It shouldn't be socially acceptable to prescribe any pill to lose weight. Put the bucket of chicken down and go do some exercise :D
[22:17:50] <SirFinkus> idk, that has to be a tough one if you're addicted to eating
[22:18:01] <SirFinkus> it's not like you can stop cold turkey
[22:20:27] <juggs> idk either - is it possible to be addicted to eating?
[22:20:54] <SirFinkus> based on what I've heard, it sounds a lot like other addictions
[22:21:00] <SirFinkus> people eat for comfort and escape
[22:21:00] <chromas> Mmm, cold turkey
[22:23:20] <crutchy> i think depression might be a factor in many cases
[22:23:55] <crutchy> dpression -> eating -> weight gain -> worse depression -> worse eating....
[22:24:22] <SirFinkus> oh boy
[22:24:34] <SirFinkus> a commercial for something called the laser spine institute
[22:24:39] <SirFinkus> that sounds badass
[22:24:39] <crutchy> especially in this day and age of awesome opportunities for all
[22:24:42] <juggs> o.O
[22:25:07] * SirFinkus wishes he had a laser spine
[22:25:07] <crutchy> ooh
[22:25:21] <crutchy> yeah i was just wondering how much it costs to get one fitted
[22:26:25] <SirFinkus> another commercial "one in five of us will drop our phone in the toilet"
[22:26:43] <crutchy> is it just me or does the funding goal slashbox need some work?
[22:26:54] <crutchy> goals at least need a timeline
[22:27:07] <crutchy> all that SMART goal shit
[22:27:25] <SirFinkus> what I was saying
[22:27:31] <crutchy> when do we need $13,250 by?
[22:27:36] <SirFinkus> it needs a specific timeline, and what the money is for
[22:27:53] <SirFinkus> "server hosting for X months"
[22:27:53] <SirFinkus> etc
[22:27:58] <crutchy> nod
[22:28:39] <crutchy> it sorta breaks it down in the linked wiki page
[22:28:43] <juggs> yah - we were discussing this the other day. That current target was based on estimations of running / expansion / legal / setup costs for 2014 - the numbers are in one of NCommanders articles / posts.
[22:29:19] <SirFinkus> juggs: you should have a short summary of exactly what the money is paying for in the box itself
[22:29:23] <crutchy> need to add desperation
[22:29:32] <SirFinkus> something specific
[22:29:36] <juggs> Bearing in mind we hoped to bootstrap a NFP foundation and lots of other good things
[22:29:54] <SirFinkus> then a link to more details and a breakdown of funds distribution
[22:30:04] <crutchy> 'zomgwtfbbq we need another $12000 by sunrise or we'll be dead in the water!!!! please help us now or we're totally fucked!'
[22:30:11] <juggs> lol
[22:30:45] <juggs> SirFinkus, I agree. At the very least it needs a reset for 2015, with a new breakdown of projected costs.
[22:30:46] <crutchy> or copy off the wikipedia spambox
[22:31:38] <crutchy> or you could take a more ..erm ...'direct' approach: pay us now or we'll only give you AC comments!
[22:32:30] <crutchy> s/$/ mwahahahaha!!!!! gopeh
[22:32:30] * SedNotABot tosses a / to crotchy
[22:32:32] <juggs> put the whole site behind a paywall FTW!! What could possibly go wrong with that plan? :D
[22:32:58] <crutchy> lol
[22:33:06] <SirFinkus> naw, you don't need to do that I think, I'm on torrent sites that are run with donations, they seem to pay for their costs just fine
[22:33:20] <crutchy> sex
[22:33:25] <crutchy> need moar titties
[22:33:31] <SirFinkus> I'd imagine costs are lower for soylent
[22:33:40] * juggs summons crutchy's missus
[22:33:47] <crutchy> :D
[22:33:59] <crutchy> she'd prolly agree with me :p
[22:34:32] <crutchy> if there's more tits on the internet i might leave hers alone
[22:34:35] <crutchy> or something like that
[22:34:54] <crutchy> coffee++
[22:34:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 947
[22:35:17] <crutchy> there was a netsplit in #devuan on freenode
[22:35:23] <crutchy> is that common?
[22:35:37] <SirFinkus> tits in the donation box may also help
[22:35:53] <juggs> SirFinkus, month to month costs are not huge. Just this first year we've got a whole bunch of startup cost shit to account for.
[22:36:09] <SirFinkus> yeah, I figured
[22:36:17] <juggs> crutchy, yes netsplits are fairly common on freenode
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[22:41:38] <SirFinkus> netsplits are fun
[22:43:09] <juggs> They are in busy channels when you get that flood of quit / part lines and end up with just two or three people left :)
[22:43:39] <SirFinkus> they're fun to watch, like storms
[22:43:59] <SirFinkus> even if they are disruptive
[22:44:04] <juggs> I believe it's a sign of something being changed in the matrix, much like deja-vu.
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[22:47:54] <crutchy> i think i just saw bigfoot throw a ghost at a bunch of aliens!
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[22:52:44] <juggs> you should check which mushrooms you're eating crutchy
[22:53:59] <crutchy> still waiting for my veins to refill with coffee
[22:55:09] <SirFinkus> I'm trying pabst blue ribbon that has been in the fridge since last july
[22:55:32] <SirFinkus> what could possibly go wrong?
[22:55:52] <crutchy> just fiddling with my bot again. making it so i can tack on a settings filename to the command line
[22:56:00] <crutchy> oh yummy
[22:56:08] <crutchy> does it have fur?
[22:56:43] <SirFinkus> it just tastes like water
[22:57:54] <juggs> I'm supping a nice cold Zubr - nice enough, but it results in weird things when combined with a stinking head cold. Feels like my mind is wrapped in cotton wool now :/
[22:58:55] <SirFinkus> a belarusian military organization?
[22:59:07] <SirFinkus> political I mean
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[23:32:24] <juggs> SirFinkus, https://en.wikipedia.org
[23:32:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Żubr (beer)
[23:33:28] <juggs> Get lots of Polish beers in the UK these days.
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[23:49:32] <SirFinkus> ahh