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[23:58:42] <swiss> works fairly well
[23:58:39] <swiss> it's a baesean learning or something or other
[23:58:31] <swiss> spamassassin is pretty lightweight
[23:58:11] <NightHawk> was a low-volume mail server though to be fair
[23:57:04] <NightHawk> it was a long time ago, but pretty sure I used it on an old system without much issue
[23:55:45] <Landon> is it lightweight? sounds pretty enterprise to me
[23:55:00] <NightHawk> SpamAssassin?
[23:53:20] <Landon> anyone have any other lightweight spam filter suggestions
[23:53:13] <Landon> back up now, but antispam is offline :( dspam isn't in current ubuntu I guess?
[23:53:00] <Landon> email has been broken on my system most of the week
[23:52:51] <Landon> ugh
[23:48:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Modular Smartphone - Google's Project Ara - http://sylnt.us - I-sense-a-home-project-coming-on
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[23:23:18] <SirFinkus> lot lizard?
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[23:19:38] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHA
[23:19:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Single mom with 2 kids
[23:19:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Scored a date for seven or eight!
[23:19:22] <Ethanol-fueled> YES!
[23:19:21] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAH
[23:05:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Actually a good girl. Never did dope or nothin'
[23:04:57] <Ethanol-fueled> I knew a girl named Aimee, a Mexican
[23:01:58] <SirFinkus> opiates
[23:01:30] <SirFinkus> now "Aimee" is up
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[22:48:15] <Ethanol-fueled> It has a picture of an imaginary young arab man, Hatim Al-Aziz, who is interested in trying new things.
[22:47:47] <Ethanol-fueled> I created it to troll a friend who I thought was Bi-curious.
[22:47:29] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, that's my dummy e-mail address. Spam away.
[22:47:18] * chromas queues up the email spambot
[22:46:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Now I can remove impostors who may want to sully my good name.
[22:46:28] <Ethanol-fueled> do you all see the messages from *NickServ* and -NickServ- ?
[22:46:05] <Ethanol-fueled> did you all see the bit from the sucessful register?
[22:45:53] <Ethanol-fueled> I did register successfully
[22:45:22] <SirFinkus> great job
[22:45:12] <SirFinkus> lol
[22:43:35] <Ethanol-fueled> welp, that went well.
[22:43:28] <Ethanol-fueled> register drugfree hatimalaziz@gmail.com
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[22:31:46] <Ethanol-fueled_> Hey, do you all have any experience with Aptera 3 as a web development IDE?
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[22:31:23] <Ethanol-fueled_> Goddamn Firefox crashing
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[22:31:04] <nick> get off my lawn
[22:30:40] <Leebert> damn kids.
[22:30:35] <Leebert> internet programming is sockets and such.
[22:30:22] <Leebert> that's not internet programming. that's web application programming.
[22:27:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Then out myself when I accidentally log in under Ethanol-fueled
[22:27:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Then I can join the team under a fake name.
[22:26:53] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll be doing some Apache too
[22:24:53] <SirFinkus> sounds like fun
[22:24:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm so glad I'm doing this instead of engineering.
[22:24:02] <Ethanol-fueled> computer science rocks.
[22:23:58] <Ethanol-fueled> jquery, SQL commands using PHP, javascript....sounds fun.
[22:23:43] * Ethanol-fueled is reading his internet programming class syllabus
[22:23:32] <SirFinkus> I suppose it is subjective
[22:22:48] <nick> i would say this conversation is lower than all of those
[22:22:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Actually we had a good discussion awhile back about turds. Pauley even joined in.
[22:22:09] <Ethanol-fueled> nick, come back in, oh, 6 hours after I'm posting links to GG Allin videos and crutchy and chromas are discussing butts and farts.
[22:21:35] <SirFinkus> naw, we've been lower
[22:21:20] * nick wonders if this conversation is a new low for #Soylent
[22:20:21] <SirFinkus> "I'm attracted to his intelligence" holy shit
[22:19:43] <Ethanol-fueled> HAhahahah, those are disgusting. Almost as bad as glue-sniffing.
[22:19:28] <SirFinkus> now she's doing whippets
[22:19:06] <Ethanol-fueled> She was White Trash. Listened to country. Loved to fight. She was built like a tank.
[22:18:40] <SirFinkus> not as bad as tiffany though
[22:18:30] <SirFinkus> another white trash name
[22:17:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh Amber. I might have called YOU up had you not been knocked-up so early.
[22:17:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Rewards Researcher for Reporting Critical Vulnerability - http://sylnt.us - dynamic-workforce-initiative
[22:17:02] * Ethanol-fueled chuckles
[22:16:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Raw-dogging in public and shit.
[22:16:32] <Ethanol-fueled> And oddly enough, those were the most recklessly horny.
[22:16:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Sometimes violently.
[22:16:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't think I've dated a molested girl, but I've dated women who have been raped many times.
[22:15:33] <SirFinkus> molested too
[22:15:31] <SirFinkus> oh of course
[22:15:18] <Ethanol-fueled> or Latinos.
[22:15:13] <Ethanol-fueled> daddy abandonment girls also date black guys. Or, if they are black, they date white guys.
[22:14:43] <Ethanol-fueled> You will hear nonstop all those things she wanted to tell daddy when she projects daddy onto you.
[22:14:39] <SirFinkus> this just gets better and better
[22:14:35] <SirFinkus> oh shit, here mom started dating her soccer coach
[22:14:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Never, ever deal with one.
[22:14:15] <Ethanol-fueled> daddy abandonment girls are the worst.
[22:14:06] <SirFinkus> abandoned by daddy
[22:13:47] <SirFinkus> ohh, here come the daddy issues
[22:13:06] <Ethanol-fueled> She had zits on her armpits.
[22:13:02] <nick> this all sounds very voyeuristic
[22:12:59] <Ethanol-fueled> I knew a white trash girl named tiffany.
[22:12:52] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHA
[22:12:47] <SirFinkus> "Tiffany"
[22:12:42] <SirFinkus> she's got a really white trash name too
[22:12:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Or else it gets the hose again.
[22:12:10] <Ethanol-fueled> It rubs the lotion on its skin,
[22:07:53] * SirFinkus doesn't need his skin, he needs YOUR skin
[22:06:27] <chromas> You don't really need your skin. If you did, why would it be coming off? It's made to eat, that's why
[22:05:43] <SirFinkus> she's picking her skin off, looks like a gem
[22:04:59] <chromas> I think Ethanol-fueled was looking for one of those
[22:04:12] <SirFinkus> IV
[22:03:59] <SirFinkus> 9 years of meth
[22:01:42] <SirFinkus> probably a lot lizard
[22:01:35] <SirFinkus> oh boy, this next one looks like an even bigger trainwreck
[21:38:55] <nick> eh
[21:37:12] <SirFinkus> scratching records also gets him "super stoked"
[21:36:52] <SirFinkus> they've got a bro who's a raging alcoholic and pill popper now
[21:35:43] <SirFinkus> I'm watching intervention, this show is great
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[21:18:26] <Ethanol-fueled> I'ma gonna get me a lot lizard.
[21:18:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Old washed-up single mothers, crack whores, and -- OOO! There's a sports bar conjoined to the hotel
[20:55:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Come on, baby. Come on! Put one in the bag for papa!
[20:54:59] <Ethanol-fueled> One prospect actually might work out. Plus 6-ish or so wimmins have yet to respond.
[20:54:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Dammit, I've got messages from 3 wimmins already and they're flaking out.
[20:46:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AirAsia Disappearance Fuels Calls for Real-Time Tracking - http://sylnt.us - but-who-pays?
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[20:39:02] <janrinok> time to go - bye all
[20:35:29] <janrinok> with that*
[20:35:21] <janrinok> good luck with the EF
[20:35:00] <nick> whatever floats your boat i guess
[20:31:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Fortunately I have a faithful standby there and am looking to hustle up an 'ole here.
[20:30:40] <Ethanol-fueled> I'
[20:30:33] <Ethanol-fueled> For now, nick. I'm working towards a relationship with a lady in SD I really dig, but things are moving pretty slowly despite the things we have in common.
[20:26:32] <nick> ah the ol' 'any hole is a goal' mentality
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[20:12:18] <Ethanol-fueled> I know for certain that I will get laid when I return to san diego, but it would be really nice if I could hustle up something down here for New Year's.
[20:11:05] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm trying to hit up local women on OK Cupid for one-night stands.
[19:52:41] <nick> vegas for the buffet food!
[19:51:33] <Leebert> Though Vegas for me is more stuff like rock climbing in Red Rock Canyon.
[19:51:04] <Leebert> Eh, I feel like crap. Besides, Vegas on Friday. Need to get enough sleep so I can feel well this weekend.
[19:50:29] <Ethanol-fueled> leebert, you need to come to the imperial valley. It's clear as hell and like 80 degrees out.
[19:49:43] <Leebert> so it sounds like Ethanol-fueled and I will average out to a normal person's new year's celebration.
[19:49:25] * Ethanol-fueled has left [k-lined]
[19:49:24] * Leebert expects to be going to bed tomorrow night at 10 PM after drinking some NyQuil to dull the pain of this blasted cold.
[19:49:19] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll probably be idling on here all day, but headin' out to the licka sto to procure mass booze. Be back in a bit...
[19:48:35] <Ethanol-fueled> ONE ORGY OF EXTRAORDINARY MAGNITUDE.
[19:48:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Two Beds. Two extenders. Two bottles of lube. Twenty condoms.
[19:47:36] <Ethanol-fueled> what's up, N1?
[19:47:22] <Leebert> Ethanol-fueled: because the world is full of stupid people.
[19:47:18] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm trying to have an orgy arranged in my hotel room for new year's.
[19:47:02] <Ethanol-fueled> planning nefarious deeds :)
[19:46:51] * Ethanol-fueled is holed up in his temporary fortress in the Imperial Valley, CA
[19:46:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus, Leebert...who do good things turn so bad?
[19:45:50] <nick> i stopped reading the firefox shit at 'this awesome browser'
[19:44:54] <Leebert> Not only that, but the default home page has turned into a clone of the "personal appeal from Jimmy Wales" wikimedia foundation "please give us money to throw away on stupid-ass projects that just make things worse".
[19:41:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus fucking Christ.....FIrefox is shitted up so bad it's like Norton or McAffee AV now.
[19:41:01] <Ethanol-fueled> or "Application boundary enforcer?!" What the fuck? All I'm doing is using Wi-fi at a fucking hotel!
[19:40:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Can't I just go to a webpage without seeing a "OH NO THIS CONNECTION IS UNTRUSTED WRITE A NOVEL TO APPROVE THE EXCEPTION!"
[19:40:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Can't I just use the goddamn internet?
[19:40:06] <Ethanol-fueled> God fucking dammit, Firefox.
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[19:15:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Internet Explorer 12 to Shed Legacy Cruft in Bid to Beat Chrome - http://sylnt.us - ie-on-a-diet
[17:48:24] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat
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[17:44:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site News: Moderation Experiment Update - http://sylnt.us
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[16:16:24] <nick> the nsa one is just another story of blah; nothing changes, everyone will continue to believe what they want to believe regardless of the source or if the information can be verified.
[16:14:59] <nick> on the new story, not the nsa one
[16:13:55] <nick> my thought on that story was generally.. doesn't surprise me, american cities are full of light and wasting energy to entice the public into their businesses
[16:12:34] <Konomi> some of the comments we get -.-
[16:11:32] <Konomi> >.<
[16:11:29] <Konomi> zomg reality must be disinformation from god better stop participating!
[16:11:14] <Konomi> I love how people are saying in the comments of spiegal article that it's just the nsa releasing false information even though snowden leaked them
[15:42:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - American Cities are Many Times Brighter than German Counterparts, Study Shows - http://sylnt.us - you-light-up-my-life
[15:27:55] <janrinok> damn typo
[15:27:38] <Konomi> ;p
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[15:27:27] <janrinok> *me wonders how he started this conversation....
[15:26:18] * Konomi tries to ask the laptops instead
[15:25:42] <Leebert> Actually, I think it is male, since even though the shroud fits into a slot on the laptop, the pins are on the laptop.
[15:24:18] * Leebert tries to remember the exact rules about male and female connectors
[15:24:16] <Konomi> some laptops are tricky you never know!
[15:23:56] <Leebert> I suppose it DOES have a female docking port "connector"...
[15:23:43] <janrinok> you have to look in the right place - if I have to tell you where you were not paying attention in biology class....
[15:23:23] <Konomi> duh just turn it upside down and check
[15:23:13] * Leebert wonders if his laptop is a boy
[15:23:07] <Leebert> "boy laptops"?
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[15:21:20] <janrinok> lol
[15:20:38] <Konomi> I'd never have boy laptops eww ;p
[15:20:24] <janrinok> ooh - a 2 computer man!
[15:19:47] <Konomi> erm that is my second computer ;p
[15:19:10] <janrinok> hi KonomiNetbook - like the name change!
[15:10:33] * Konomi releases the hounds
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[14:11:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sony Could Have Made A Lot More Money from The Interview - http://sylnt.us - business-logic
[14:11:10] <crutchy> 1am. coffee has run out of punch. time for sleepies
[13:06:57] <crutchy> dunno when that happened :p
[13:06:47] <crutchy> err. well it did until exec lost its gawd powahs
[13:06:25] <crutchy> :p
[13:06:23] <crutchy> the batcave has one
[13:03:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'll put it off until i get back from the fishing trip. likely be 3 days.
[13:02:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll write up a script to let folks kick themselves this morning
[13:01:55] <crutchy> oh no he was here today while i was at the airport
[13:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, looks like
[13:01:32] <crutchy> last night my time
[13:01:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[13:01:24] <crutchy> he was here last night i think
[13:01:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't seen him since i left him banned a whole day
[13:00:57] <crutchy> get ethanol-fueled to do it :D
[13:00:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Oi, juggs, you want to do the site update post for this weekend's update or would you rather PJ or I do it?
[12:45:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, me either. we is what we is.
[12:45:15] <Konomi> didn't mean it in a bad way ;p
[12:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we ain't exactly breaking news. more water cooler chat.
[12:41:48] <Konomi> like how I am generally a few days ahead of articles ;p
[12:40:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Inside the NSA's War on Internet Security - http://sylnt.us - government-approved-security-tools
[12:38:53] <Konomi> microfiber clothe so micro it's sticking to itself
[12:37:03] <idetuxs> great!
[12:35:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 945
[12:35:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, mine was barely able to plop out those few paragraphs.
[12:34:53] <Konomi> my mind is too scattered for an opinion yet
[12:33:24] <Konomi> \o/
[12:31:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0304SN Submission by The Mighty Buzzard: Site News: Moderation Experiment Update
[12:31:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org if you wanna cheat and read it before you can comment.
[12:31:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke. moderation update story's subbed.
[12:29:20] <Konomi> hmm might be non asus
[12:28:57] <Konomi> eeepc too \o/
[12:28:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Kitchenpunk - Imgur
[12:28:44] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[12:28:43] <Konomi> the things I find
[12:21:21] <Konomi> the internet might want it though
[12:21:16] <chromas> Konomi: slip him a mickey and roll 'im
[12:21:15] <Bender> karma - beeeeewbs: 1
[12:21:15] <crutchy> beeeeewbs++
[12:20:57] <Bender> karma - persephone: 1
[12:20:57] <crutchy> persephone++
[12:20:43] <Konomi> you know I normally don't like guys ;p
[12:20:03] <crutchy> now now i'll only wear that if Konomi buys me a drink
[12:19:48] <idetuxs> I love the girl in the red dress
[12:19:32] <chromas> Now we know what's under crutchy's dress
[12:19:03] <Konomi> <insert crickets here>
[12:14:50] <crutchy> i choose zero dresses
[12:14:25] <crutchy> dressctl remove
[12:14:17] <crutchy> you mean there's an option to remove it?
[12:13:51] * crutchy sticks out arm
[12:13:48] <chromas> crutchy: once you know, there's no reason to limit yourself to one dress
[12:13:47] <crutchy> i'll take it then
[12:13:19] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3grabe: it means good great amazing. comes from the Tagalog language in the PI
[12:13:17] <crutchy> ~define grabe
[12:13:01] <crutchy> i wanna eat juicy steak with the woman in the red dress
[12:13:00] <Konomi> grab*
[12:12:57] <Konomi> should I um grabe the hyperdermic needle then?
[12:12:02] <crutchy> do not ignore my veins!
[12:11:45] <Bender> karma - overmind: 1
[12:11:45] <chromas> overmind++ #the pants command me
[12:11:44] <crutchy> gimme the blue pill dammit
[12:11:31] <Konomi> she's not real crutchy
[12:11:18] <crutchy> as long as i get the woman in the red dress i'll be happy
[12:11:12] <Bender> karma - zerg: 1
[12:11:12] <chromas> zerg++
[12:11:01] <Konomi> everyone has had those dreams um haven't they?
[12:10:55] <chromas> crutchy: hivemind
[12:10:25] * crutchy is slapped down hard
[12:10:09] <Konomi> whatever does it for you crutchy ;p
[12:09:57] <crutchy> *goop
[12:09:51] <Konomi> I would feel that any collection of biometric data is not normal
[12:09:49] <crutchy> pretty soon we'll all be living in pink good with wires shoved up our arses
[12:09:36] * chromas touches crutchy's body for uh...testing
[12:09:15] <idetuxs> it happens in the states?
[12:09:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03INTRODUCING NEALS - YouTube
[12:09:02] <idetuxs> mm if it's sane may be
[12:09:01] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[12:09:00] <Konomi> related media recall
[12:08:51] <idetuxs> that's a great quote crutchy
[12:08:44] <idetuxs> yeah, i know where you are going. It's relative?
[12:08:40] <crutchy> yay communism!
[12:08:18] <Konomi> idetuxs: depends on your definition of normal
[12:08:06] <crutchy> i'm just stuck in a 32 year old body :/
[12:07:59] <Konomi> poor chromas
[12:07:57] <idetuxs> Poll of the day: is it normal that your goverment has all your biometric data on a national wide database?
[12:07:55] * Konomi hides
[12:07:52] <Konomi> chromas is going to get a visit from the fbi then
[12:07:36] <crutchy> Konomi, no i'm only 16
[12:07:17] <crutchy> hi idetuxs
[12:06:30] <idetuxs> hahahha
[12:06:24] <idetuxs> I don't like you ciri, please don't talk to me
[12:06:21] <Konomi> ciri doing the most creepy greetings you can imagine
[12:05:54] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI idetuxs
[12:05:54] <idetuxs> hi crutchy , Konomi
[12:05:49] <idetuxs> oh, it's just MY version of internet :P
[12:05:38] <Konomi> lies everyone is like over 70
[12:05:23] <crutchy> we're still young and wild here :D
[12:05:10] <Konomi> pinned down?
[12:04:45] <idetuxs> got my internet down
[12:04:34] <idetuxs> morning TheMightyBuzzard
[12:03:28] <chromas> Also depends on the channel
[12:03:04] <Konomi> it's not anti bot but they like having them registered
[12:02:49] <crutchy> i guess its an old network that has been through many bot wars
[12:02:31] <crutchy> is it just me or is freenode very anti-bot?
[12:02:11] <ciri> lol damn!
[12:02:11] <crutchy> lol
[12:02:08] <crutchy> nice chap
[12:02:03] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Twilight Zone intro. - YouTube
[12:02:02] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[12:02:01] <Konomi> or maybe
[12:01:49] <crutchy> an indian version of myself from 16 years ago
[12:00:53] <Konomi> ;p
[12:00:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Time Warp - Rocky Horror Picture Show - YouTube
[12:00:49] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[12:00:22] <crutchy> i think i was just chatting with myself from about 16 years ago :p
[11:58:50] <crutchy> then we just can't do it captain. we just dewnt hev the poower
[11:58:44] <Konomi> irc sandbags
[11:58:11] <crutchy> flooding is permitted up to a certain point. beyond that and the bilge pumps can't keep up
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[11:47:37] <chromas> excess flood, eh
[11:41:04] <Konomi> that delay
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[11:39:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03OTR FTW - WSOGMM
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[11:37:32] * Konomi pokes the bot
[11:37:18] <Konomi> http://meta.ath0.com
[11:35:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, writing up a site update
[11:32:58] <idetuxs> what's up
[11:32:19] <idetuxs> mornin' bitches
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[11:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> can be if you register with bender
[11:25:53] <chromas> I just dropped a--oh wait, this isn't twitter
[11:24:46] <crutchy> i just dropped a shameless plug in a freenode channel
[11:23:49] <chromas> that's not how stretching works
[11:21:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all good as long as the holes aren't really visible when there's nothing in them
[11:19:25] <chromas> Sadly, one of my nieces is into that shit
[11:18:59] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3gauge: what sizes of plugs are called. not a verb. you can not gauge. you can stretch a piercing you can not gauge it. it would be like saying "I'm going to large" its what Sizes are referred...
[11:18:58] <chromas> ~define gauge
[11:18:57] <chromas> oh
[11:17:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> one could only hope. flexible little chick.
[11:17:31] * chromas goes to look up what a unit of gauge is
[11:17:05] <chromas> I'd ~define gauge but it would probably reference the porn actress
[11:16:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> river though so no need
[11:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, 20<12<10
[11:15:56] <chromas> do shotguns gauges run 'backward' like wire gauges?
[11:15:41] <chromas> cut the ice with a 12-guage
[11:15:23] <chromas> fishin' hole?
[11:15:19] <chromas> ooh
[11:15:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya and i'm off to a cabin for a fishing trip today
[11:14:47] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK, USA - currently 28°F / -2°C, clear, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 100% - Tuesday partly cloudy (21°F-32°F / -6°C-0°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (25°F-30°F / -4°C--1°C), Thursday chance of ice (30°F-32°F / -1°C-0°C), Friday chance of snow (34°F-36°F / 1°C-2°C) - source: Google
[11:14:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[11:13:03] <chromas> Almost winter time
[11:12:52] <exec> Weather for Walla Walla, WA, USA - currently 21°F / -6°C, overcast, wind SW at 2 mph, humidity 65% - Tuesday clear (9°F-27°F / -13°C--3°C), Wednesday clear (16°F-25°F / -9°C--4°C), Thursday partly cloudy (16°F-28°F / -9°C--2°C), Friday clear (21°F-34°F / -6°C-1°C) - source: Google
[11:12:51] <chromas> ~weather
[11:08:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 944
[11:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:38:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Detecting Nanoscale Vibrations as Signature of Life - http://sylnt.us - good-vibrations
[10:29:04] <crutchy> g'oop :D
[10:28:53] <chromas> didn't you have a name for that?
[10:28:30] <crutchy> i'm eating 2 minute noodles with added curry, pepper and soy sauce
[10:28:12] <chromas> I didn't put enough cream in the caramel to make it a sauce but the juice from the apples sure took care of it
[10:28:10] <crutchy> oh yum
[10:27:31] <chromas> caramel apple, actually
[10:27:18] <chromas> apple
[10:26:16] <crutchy> some pies are best runny
[10:26:07] <crutchy> what pie?
[10:21:45] <chromas> :( pie's runny. Crap. Still tastes awesome though
[10:19:57] <crutchy> pretty soon you'll be making concrete slabs with that cake trowel
[10:19:17] <chromas> ooh, I am totally rebellious, cutting pie with a cake trowl
[09:58:00] <chromas> oh, I misread. I thought it was "he's alright in my author"
[09:57:44] * chromas takes a look at aqu4's author
[09:57:40] * aqu4 tears out crutchy's intestines and plays jumprope with them
[09:56:49] * crutchy gropes aqu4's bits
[09:56:30] <aqu4> crutchy: EWW! I know Subsentient is deranged but he's alright because he's my author. ciri is deranged and irritating. I won't let him flip my bits.
[09:56:19] <crutchy> maybe your enemy should try debian instead
[09:56:04] <chromas> c++?
[09:55:34] * Subsentient 's arch enemy is slowly reconciling with him
[09:55:32] <crutchy> maybe aqu4 and ciri enjoy cybering
[09:55:28] <SedNotABot> <chromas> everyone needs an archenema right?
[09:55:28] <chromas> s/y/a/2
[09:55:22] <Subsentient> hehe
[09:55:17] <chromas> everyone needs an archenemy right?
[09:55:09] <chromas> aqu4 apparently enjoys ciri
[09:55:06] <aqu4> I got heads.
[09:55:05] * aqu4 flips a bubblegum covered penny on "Should we throw ciri into a volcano?"
[09:55:05] <Subsentient> $coin Should we throw ciri into a volcano?
[09:54:55] <aqu4> I got tails.
[09:54:54] * aqu4 flips a special edition USA quarter on "Should we stick ciri in the oven?"
[09:54:54] <Subsentient> $coin Should we stick ciri in the oven?
[09:54:44] <aqu4> I got tails.
[09:54:43] * aqu4 flips a Mexican peso on "Should we stick ciri in the microwave?"
[09:54:43] <Subsentient> $coin Should we stick ciri in the microwave?
[09:54:24] <crutchy> ciri is more fun in the batcave
[09:54:02] <Bender> karma - ciri: -34
[09:54:02] <Subsentient> ciri-- #irritating
[09:53:22] <crutchy> victoria bitter is the green tin i referred to
[09:53:22] <chromas> they use a "b" but I know what they mean
[09:53:10] <chromas> the television tells me it's austrailian for queer
[09:53:05] <crutchy> lots of beers here
[09:52:59] <crutchy> nah
[09:52:51] <chromas> crutchy: now I know everyone in oz drinks Foster's, right?
[09:52:49] <Bender> karma - ciri: -33
[09:52:49] <crutchy> ciri++ # underappreciated
[09:52:47] * Subsentient kicks ciri in the nuts
[09:52:38] <crutchy> poor ciri
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[09:52:26] <crutchy> maybe the pee was from a drunk guy
[09:52:26] <aqu4> Ok.
[09:52:26] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick ciri
[09:52:21] <ciri> rofl
[09:52:21] <Subsentient> lol
[09:52:19] <Subsentient> lol
[09:52:17] <Subsentient> chromas: hehe
[09:52:05] <chromas> he just thinks he's drunk because nobody told him it's alcohol-free
[09:52:03] <crutchy> people buy it by the slab
[09:51:54] <crutchy> we have piss in a green can here in straya
[09:51:35] <Subsentient> chromas: Ethanol-fueled knows that pretty well.
[09:51:26] * Subsentient also covers boiled white rice in coconut and sugar and eats that for breakfast
[09:51:15] <chromas> one man's pee is another man's white trash beer
[09:51:03] * Subsentient likes rice crispies and corn flakes
[09:50:46] * Subsentient can't eat gluten
[09:50:30] * crutchy prefers crunchy nut cornflakes anyway
[09:50:04] <Subsentient> Yep but not sure he wants them anymore
[09:49:51] <crutchy> ciri has cheerios!?
[09:49:33] * Subsentient pees in ciri's cheerios
[09:49:30] <crutchy> php.net++
[09:49:11] <crutchy> Konomi, ew friends
[09:49:10] <Konomi> docs don't get upset and act like someone peed in their cheerio'
[09:49:10] * chromas loves ciri and gives it a soft poke in the back channel
[09:49:01] * Subsentient hates winsock
[09:48:47] * Subsentient sticks with the C standard and StackOverflow
[09:48:33] <Konomi> I generally ask my friends when I need coding help or stick with the docs
[09:47:44] * Subsentient hates ciri
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[09:47:40] <aqu4> Ok.
[09:47:40] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick ciri
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[09:47:23] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[09:47:23] <Subsentient> lol
[09:47:10] <Konomi> go freenode policy go
[09:47:06] <Konomi> followed it up with python project the guy I talked to said er we don't even run the #python channel
[09:46:49] <Konomi> I did a single emote in python channel and one of the ops lost their shit
[09:46:31] <Konomi> nah but I have some fun experiences from #perl and #python
[09:46:21] * Subsentient gurgles
[09:46:15] <Subsentient> Konomi: Ever been in #c?
[09:46:14] <crutchy> that's why i joined them :D
[09:46:05] <Konomi> they're full of arsehats
[09:46:01] <Konomi> avoid the coding channels in freenode
[09:45:53] <Konomi> pro tip
[09:45:41] <crutchy> if you want to start an argument in there, just say something like 'frameworks suck' :p
[09:44:43] <crutchy> maybe it was poutine's brother
[09:44:38] * chromas joins up
[09:44:33] <Bender> karma - poutine: -370
[09:44:33] <chromas> poutine--
[09:44:31] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[09:44:31] <crutchy> lol no
[09:44:27] <chromas> was it poutine?
[09:44:23] <crutchy> he's prolly right
[09:44:18] <crutchy> there was a guy in ##php that thinks my bot is insecure
[09:43:45] <crutchy> with globals
[09:43:42] <chromas> hehe, hell requires a goto
[09:43:29] * chromas prepares to goto hell
[09:43:23] <crutchy> maybe it needs viagractl
[09:43:04] <chromas> but I don't mind systemd except for the time it kept dismounting /home
[09:42:47] <chromas> the arch user repo has a bunch of nosystemd packages
[09:41:53] <SedNotABot> <chromas> on the viewers' end, sure
[09:41:53] <chromas> s/(')(s)/\2\1/
[09:41:41] <chromas> on the viewer's end, sure
[09:41:27] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> <chromas> crutchy: then it'd be lots of drooling and no action :D
[09:41:27] <crutchy> chromas, s/talking/drooling/
[09:41:06] <crutchy> and the kernel! it has been forced on us all!
[09:40:40] <crutchy> and x! it's the devil!
[09:40:34] <chromas> crutchy: then it'd be lots of talking and no action :D
[09:40:14] <chromas> of course, some are going derp on dbus now too
[09:40:01] <crutchy> imagine if nixiepixel developed systemd
[09:39:49] <chromas> it's also there when the project maintainers all put their software together into the same repo
[09:39:23] <Konomi> only has creep if you want it
[09:39:23] <crutchy> if poettering had nice bewbs it might be different
[09:39:16] <Konomi> just like the linux kernel you can change what you want at compile time
[09:39:12] <chromas> wow, nobody's used SedBot in awhile
[09:39:07] <Konomi> mission creep is only there if you op in
[09:39:03] <SedNotABot> <chromas> and became an umbrella project like KDE
[09:39:03] <chromas> s/J/K/
[09:39:03] <crutchy> systemd is the empire cos it doesn't have a princess leia
[09:38:59] <chromas> and became an umbrella project like JDE
[09:38:52] <chromas> well it also started mission creeping
[09:38:35] <Konomi> I didn't even like systemd at the time
[09:38:26] <Konomi> then it gets released to debian and other distros and what a mood change
[09:38:18] <chromas> well all they had to do was make sure systemd-shim keeps working
[09:38:15] <Konomi> and all the talk was extremely positive at the time
[09:38:05] <Konomi> first I heard of systemd was from a few arch friends because they got it about a year before everyone else
[09:37:52] <Konomi> I'm still kinda laughing about it all to be honest
[09:37:13] <crutchy> i've got my little sylnt minion in those channels now
[09:36:57] <Konomi> only some people are able to blend the two to disturbing degrees
[09:36:46] <Konomi> religion or technology
[09:36:18] <chromas> Konomi: not far from the truth :) they've kickbanned some other people who weren't totally foaming-at-the-mouth raging against the systemd
[09:35:46] <crutchy> :D
[09:35:42] <crutchy> i'll forward them :p
[09:35:38] <crutchy> damn
[09:35:34] <chromas> crutchy: yep
[09:35:25] <chromas> but I went into some channel he had and he opped me, then later coagin kickbanned me from three channels
[09:35:25] <crutchy> did you get banned from #devuan and #devuan-dev?
[09:35:24] <Konomi> he said he owned a systemd badge
[09:35:10] <crutchy> dunno
[09:34:52] <chromas> Do you remember the guy named DevTwo? He talks funny and uses four spaces in place of commas
[09:34:30] <crutchy> were you stoking the fire?
[09:34:15] <crutchy> chromas, how did you get banned?
[09:33:50] <Konomi> correction quality control
[09:32:01] <Konomi> would never hate lol
[09:31:57] <Konomi> that comic is awesome ;p
[09:31:50] <Konomi> quality checking
[09:30:14] <ar> questionable content?
[09:29:15] <Konomi> god I hate doing QC
[09:26:43] <chromas> kittyctl start mewing
[09:26:30] <Konomi> perfect software surreeee
[09:26:20] <ar> ;>
[09:26:17] <ar> Konomi: openrc needs no fixes; works purrfectly'
[09:26:08] <Konomi> well one I had help with I suck at C ;p
[09:25:58] <Konomi> my systemd patch was accepted ~
[09:25:57] <chromas> of course, they don't say if the patch was any good or if it 'fixed' something in a dumb way
[09:25:41] <chromas> at least some claim that patches don't get accepted
[09:25:17] <Konomi> be nice if all the people whining about systemd put their effort into getting fixes for software pushed rather than some project just existing
[09:25:16] <chromas> you need some PR
[09:24:57] <chromas> might've been SELinux. The thing that tells you to "feck off you can't do that 'cause there's no rule fer it"
[09:24:47] <Konomi> I wish people would write stories and make outrages over some of my patches that fix some projects never getting accepted
[09:23:53] <Konomi> there are little annoying problems here and there but those are slowly getting fixed
[09:23:35] <chromas> When I tried Fedora few years ago, it was that security thing I always forget the name of that exploded
[09:23:30] <Konomi> to my knowledge there are no bug reports in debian testing that indicate systemd has made anyones system unbootable
[09:22:42] <Konomi> shrug don't know what they do
[09:22:37] <Konomi> oh fedora
[09:22:35] <Konomi> done 5 upgrades no explosions here
[09:22:30] <ar> (yay fedora)
[09:22:21] <ar> +s
[09:22:19] <ar> systemd likes to explode on systemd upgrade
[09:21:43] <chromas> for example, the messy shell scripts they wanted to replace—they could've just written better ones
[09:19:45] * chromas blames debian for everything
[09:18:29] <Konomi> oh yeah my systems are exploding every day yep for sure
[09:18:05] <chromas> don't say that. it's got the systemd and it's buggy even though it's called 'testing' that doesn't mean anything! wahh!!
[09:17:43] <chromas> sssh
[09:17:03] <Konomi> stablisation period is a bit more boring than I would like but has to be done
[09:16:38] <Konomi> debian is busy plugging all the bugs before release anyway
[09:16:13] <Konomi> doubt the project would last I'm just ignoring it at the moment
[09:15:21] <chromas> Theriouthly, I'm kind of disappointed I didn't get some trollin' in and earn the ban :D
[09:14:55] <chromas> I guess coagin though I was friends with one of the obnoxious guys in there and he went on a kickban spree
[09:14:19] <Konomi> oh I am sure ;p
[09:13:52] <chromas> nothin'
[09:11:41] <Konomi> what did you say ;p
[09:06:57] <chromas> I got the boot from all the devuan channels :)
[08:53:47] <Konomi> hey ar
[08:53:24] <ar> moin
[08:48:26] <Konomi> also fyi anyone looking to tag files with replaygain I found "ex falso" pretty impressed with it, it can even tag ogg/opus combination
[08:44:10] <Konomi> there's 8 videos
[08:44:05] <Hedonismbot> * 03Project Binky - Episode 1 - Austin Mini GT-Four - Turbo Charged 4WD Mini - YouTube
[08:44:05] <Konomi> crutchy you might like this: https://www.youtube.com
[08:43:42] <Konomi> mostly cause of what you have discovered
[08:43:31] <Konomi> crutchy: most relay bots turn off network activity and just relay messages
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[08:10:46] <crutchy> i think i need some filtering for the freenode forwarding. atm its just a barrage of joins/parts/quits mainly
[08:02:29] <Bender> karma - driving: -3
[08:02:29] <crutchy> driving--
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[07:22:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Data Kills Troi - Star Trek TNG - YouTube
[07:22:26] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[07:20:38] <SirFinkus> I've got 20 minutes before this knocks me out
[07:18:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck that faggot asshole.
[07:18:38] <Ethanol-fueled> LETS PLAY
[07:18:25] <Ethanol-fueled> what makes me angry is that we cannot escape the fucking prick.
[07:17:56] <SirFinkus> yeah, fuck that prick
[07:17:06] <Ethanol-fueled> WhaT i HATE IS THAT PRICK.
[07:15:44] <SirFinkus> doxylamine succinate is neat
[06:57:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Doze electric pianos.
[06:56:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm shedding manly tears at Trabia garden.
[06:47:28] <Konomi> \o/
[06:47:14] <Konomi> should've clubbed that person like they did in the past when I had the oppunity
[06:46:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Peoples undergo painful periods of self-correction because they don't learn from history.
[06:44:50] <Ethanol-fueled> NightHawk: "This" is not referring to the calling class, but to people in charge being stupud.
[06:44:47] <NightHawk> You put it that way and it sounds optimistic. (The first short version)
[06:43:33] <NightHawk> Some context might be nice. In other words what was "this" referring to?
[06:43:30] <Ethanol-fueled> The short version is that goodness prevails over evil. Or, how I interpret it, is that evil is not stupid enough to wipe itself out.
[06:42:23] <Ethanol-fueled> "This is all bullshit. This happens again and again and you do what you do because there will always be this shit in the world. "
[06:41:48] <SirFinkus> wouldn't say doomed, but society at large is destined to fall into the same traps over and over again
[06:41:42] <Ethanol-fueled> NightHawk, no. To quote my grandma who lived through the great depression:...
[06:41:05] <NightHawk> You think we're all doomed?
[06:40:47] <SirFinkus> sounds about right
[06:39:15] <Ethanol-fueled> " You sharpen the human appetite to the point where it can split atoms with its desire; you build egos the size of cathedrals; fiber-optically connect the world to every eager impulse; grease even the dullest dreams with these dollar-green, gold-plated fantasies, until every human becomes an aspiring emperor, becomes his own God... and where can you go from there? "
[06:38:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Please allow me to share with you all a quote from the movie "The Devil's Advocate"...
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[06:37:35] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, that is why now is a good time to give up on society.
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[06:36:53] <SirFinkus> privacy isn't sexy enough, the initial hunt for snowden was compelling, but once that ended it wasn't interesting to most people anymore
[06:36:45] * Ethanol-fueled bails to read Dostoevsky again.
[06:36:26] <Ethanol-fueled> IS that what is going on? That there is nothing going on in the world? That people must have something going on lest they fall prey to existentialist anxiety and fall prey to actually killing others?
[06:35:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Global Citizenship: Technology is Rapidly Dissolving National Borders - http://sylnt.us - global-and-proud
[06:35:12] <SirFinkus> that plane crash in san francisco I think, I've forgotten the timeline
[06:34:48] <SirFinkus> I seem to remember other high profile events taking over
[06:34:08] <Konomi> technically the just want viewier counts and drama is best for that
[06:34:04] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, while this is true, notice how quiet they fell about the Snowden leaks after the unredacted raw pipe to Israel was revealed.
[06:33:43] <Konomi> sounds like the mainstream media to me
[06:33:43] <SirFinkus> it makes the easy to manipulate by the feds of course
[06:33:26] <SirFinkus> I'm less cynical about the media, I just thing they want sensationalism
[06:33:10] <Ethanol-fueled> NightHawk - close - they need an excuse for lockdown.
[06:32:47] <NightHawk> Weapons of mass distraction?
[06:32:46] <Ethanol-fueled> DIvide-and-conquer to distract the commonfolk from the real issues?
[06:32:45] <SirFinkus> my feeling is that they just like good ratings
[06:32:22] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, this is true. Mainstream media is trying their damdest to start race-riots. But why?
[06:31:53] <Ethanol-fueled> This is how we sill stop them.
[06:31:47] <SirFinkus> naw, US media salivates over the prospect of a race roit
[06:30:57] <Ethanol-fueled> that is why the NSA machine will fail. Because it doesn't know what Brylcreem is.
[06:30:35] <SirFinkus> I spend enough time examining my own life, tyvm
[06:30:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, so let's say that anything we don't agree with is "race baiting." Plus, none of you knew what Brylcreem was until I told you.
[06:30:09] <Konomi> and there go the rear panels
[06:30:05] <SirFinkus> though everyone loves a good race riot I suppose
[06:30:02] <NightHawk> 'tis the time of year for existentialist ponderings. Better than observing the state of your own life.
[06:29:43] <SirFinkus> really annoying
[06:29:40] <SirFinkus> race baiting is pretty prevalent in the US media
[06:29:21] <Ethanol-fueled> "oh my god, those are offensive! And they have Brylcream ads!"
[06:29:17] <Subsentient> What do you call a baker with diarrhea? Fudge ripple.
[06:28:52] * Ethanol-fueled starts the "nigger wars" which were not engineerined by some Jew veteran producer of reality TV.
[06:28:27] <Konomi> starting to sound old there
[06:28:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Just more media bullshit.
[06:27:55] <Ethanol-fueled> No, this is all garbage to entertain milleniels with existentialist ponderings.
[06:27:19] <Konomi> has to be the worst name for a "hacker group"
[06:27:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Wow, how...um....well, convenient how kim dotcom is buying off lizard squad.
[06:25:15] <Konomi> nevermind the wheel arches are going now ;p
[06:23:43] <Konomi> not sure where I got rush from
[06:23:37] <Konomi> rust&
[06:23:18] <Konomi> I think all that's left is the roof and parts of the shell that cover the wheels
[06:23:05] <Konomi> I like how the video started out as rebuilding it from scratch but the shell had so much rush they must've replaced at least 80% of it
[06:21:15] <Konomi> heh I look foward to the interesting future of internet things + hacking
[06:20:59] <SirFinkus> yeah, it's hilarious
[06:20:46] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Why Kim Dotcom buying off Lizard Squad was the wrong move | ZDNet
[06:20:45] <NightHawk> I haven't been paying much attention to the news lately, is this well known (old) news? http://www.zdnet.com
[06:20:40] <SirFinkus> mmm, bacon egg and cheese sandwich
[06:20:40] <Konomi> "I made a bulk head" is not a phrase you get to use often
[06:20:28] <Konomi> watching someone build a car from scratch is quite interesting well almost from scratch
[06:19:06] <Konomi> merry [holiday thing]
[06:18:53] <NightHawk> And merry something to you too :)
[06:18:37] <Bender> karma - ciri: -34
[06:18:37] <Konomi> ciri-- # >,,<
[06:18:27] <ciri> hello, whats up Konomi
[06:18:26] <Konomi> hi anyway
[06:18:06] <Konomi> someone else then hehe
[06:17:52] <NightHawk> Probably wasn't me. I've never really been an IRC regular anywhere.
[06:16:31] <Konomi> hey um NightHawk did you ever float around dalnet ages ago out of curiousity?
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[06:11:32] <SirFinkus> of course
[06:06:58] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus: And the best part is that WIndows-based O-scopes bug out and you have to do a hard-reset.
[06:02:29] <SirFinkus> that seems almost sacrilegious
[06:02:10] <SirFinkus> ew
[06:01:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Glad they did it on a CRT o-scope. A lot of modern o-scopes run some variant of windows'
[06:00:55] <SirFinkus> yeah, I saw that one on hackerne.ws
[06:00:37] <Ethanol-fueled> That quake on an O-scope is rad.
[05:59:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, the submissions have been really great lately.
[05:56:14] <SirFinkus> which is really my filter for whether an artist is legitimate or not
[05:55:36] <SirFinkus> seemed somewhat genuine
[05:55:22] <SirFinkus> I wouldn't say nirvana sucked either, just not my style
[05:53:43] <Ethanol-fueled> They were the Nirvana of their time.
[05:52:31] <SirFinkus> not a huge fan, but I wouldn't say they suck
[05:51:46] <Ethanol-fueled> So who else things the Beatles suck?
[05:41:04] <SirFinkus> I'll admit I haven't read anything in the past few days, so I don't really know how all this developed
[05:39:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Ah, gotcha.
[05:39:38] <SirFinkus> the former sounds like fed shit, the latter sounds like it was "fur teh lulz"
[05:38:35] <SirFinkus> the server seizure is thought to be related to that vague blog post on the tor site about relay directories being attacked
[05:37:55] <SirFinkus> the server seizure, and the new relays
[05:37:45] <SirFinkus> there were two things
[05:37:42] <SirFinkus> this is a different attack, I guess we're talking about different things
[05:37:32] <Ethanol-fueled> disinfo all around.
[05:37:23] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah. But that still doesn't explain the attacks being physical access to the servers.
[05:37:06] <SirFinkus> lizzard squad or something
[05:37:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, right Finkus.
[05:36:59] <SirFinkus> anon trolls
[05:36:54] <SirFinkus> naw, this is a different group
[05:36:39] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, I heard something about hardware access to the compromised relays. I doubt your average angry North Korean could pull that off halfway across the world.
[05:36:19] <SirFinkus> there were a LOT
[05:36:15] <SirFinkus> guy on the mailing list noticed new relays
[05:36:01] <SirFinkus> same guys who did the xbox live/psn attacks apparently
[05:35:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Then how were they tipped off about the attack?
[05:35:40] <SirFinkus> naw, the relays are/where real
[05:35:34] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:35:32] <ciri> 9
[05:35:30] <ciri> 8
[05:35:28] <ciri> 7
[05:35:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Or could it just be a bunch of BS to discourage ToR use?
[05:35:26] <ciri> 6
[05:35:25] <ciri> 5
[05:35:24] <ciri> 4
[05:35:22] <SirFinkus> 3 separate testing periods
[05:35:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, SirFinkus, that's the elephant in the room. How were they alerted to the attacks? Who perpetrated the attacks?
[05:35:00] <SirFinkus> 88 days or something for a node to be fully validated
[05:34:42] <SirFinkus> I've read the spec, just didn't know details about the specific "attack"
[05:33:54] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm just a goddamn idiot. I don't know shit. But I'd like to know.
[05:33:53] <Konomi> read the spec and figure it out yourselves
[05:33:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Yes, tell us Konomi, who pretends to ignore me.
[05:32:34] <SirFinkus> maybe Konomi could elaborate since she seems to have ties to the tor project
[05:32:00] <SirFinkus> it takes a while for a tor relay to really be utilized fully, like 3 months of tests are run on it first
[05:31:39] <SirFinkus> can't imagine they're still running, although I'd admit I haven't checked the situation in a while
[05:31:07] <SirFinkus> they rented a bunch of google compute instances
[05:31:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Elaborate, please, Finkus.
[05:30:54] <SirFinkus> seems like just a troll to me, pretty sure everything's been blacklisted/shut down by now
[05:30:26] <Ethanol-fueled> And what's up with that so-called attack on the ToR network?
[05:29:54] <Ethanol-fueled> No shit, SirFinkus.
[05:29:47] <Ethanol-fueled> But seriously, do people other than pen-testers still sow around bunches of USB drives and sneak their way into the actual machines?
[05:29:21] <SirFinkus> why not just use the backdoors in the software and all the cisco routers people are running?
[05:28:53] <SirFinkus> physical theft of hardware is so oldschool
[05:28:49] <Ethanol-fueled> NerfJihad, they were there to. They had a big black helicopter with a winch pick it up. And that copter had a big red star on it.
[05:27:31] <NerfJihad> probably a decoy for the black team loading pallets of servers out the loading bay
[05:27:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Of course. We have a guy where I work, Dr. Chung Wang. I caught him sneaking a briefcase out of the building. He was looking around all shifty-eyed and papers were spilling out everywhere but I told him stop and he threw the briefcase up in the air and ran.
[05:26:28] <NerfJihad> it's not a shooting war, it's just sabotage and espionage
[05:26:04] <NerfJihad> of course?
[05:25:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Actually, there are a LOT of Chinese in sensitive positions within defense contractors and other organinzations in the US.
[05:24:49] <NerfJihad> 1 out of how many BILLIONS plays pro NBA?
[05:24:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Yao Ming would beg to differ.
[05:24:19] <ciri> heh
[05:24:19] <NerfJihad> LOL
[05:24:15] <Ethanol-fueled> paranoid "little" fucks? That's RACIST
[05:23:56] <SirFinkus> it would be difficult to block though
[05:23:49] <NerfJihad> they're paranoid little fucks
[05:23:48] <SirFinkus> they would if someone posted a popular message they didn't like using that method
[05:23:15] <Ethanol-fueled> NerfJihad, honestly, I doubt the reds are looking for custom-encrypted messages in images...especially if you're working with the pixel data and not just shoehorning a bunch of weird garbage in the file.
[05:22:42] <NerfJihad> establishing a history of communication is bad too
[05:22:39] <SirFinkus> sorry, never claimed to be a speller
[05:22:26] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, that's "steganography," not "stenography"
[05:22:24] <NerfJihad> Ethanol-fueled: more time = more opportunities to be intercepted
[05:21:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Herfjihad, that's not very smooth. Send small images over a series of messages.
[05:21:34] <SirFinkus> stenagraphy is cool, might work
[05:21:29] <NerfJihad> Ethanol-fueled: no, no, ignore the 5gb photo of puppies in the hidden folder
[05:21:26] <Ethanol-fueled> L-Like, couldn't one encode a message into a totally innocuous e-mail, or an image attachement or something?
[05:21:03] <NerfJihad> SirFinkus: of course! how could I have forgotten the brave rocket scientists fighting censorship with unauthorized satellite launches....
[05:20:59] <Ethanol-fueled> W-what about steganography?
[05:19:45] <SirFinkus> always satellite and stuff, but kind of shitty
[05:19:45] <NerfJihad> bringing class into it, very marxist
[05:19:43] <Konomi> ignored thanks for playing
[05:19:33] <Konomi> ah bringing gender into it very classy
[05:19:21] <NerfJihad> unless the rebels are running their own transpacific cables, they're still using the gov't network
[05:18:58] <NerfJihad> one point of connection = I watch all the traffic
[05:18:49] <NerfJihad> ^ this
[05:18:43] <SirFinkus> yeah, actually, when you control all the edge routers
[05:18:29] <NerfJihad> Konomi: you sound womangry
[05:18:21] <SirFinkus> little buzzed, I like starting arguments
[05:18:18] <Konomi> right cause that small scale totally scales up to a whole country right right?
[05:18:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Whatever happened to sneaking into the building and getting into the kernel?
[05:18:03] <NerfJihad> no, just small businesses
[05:18:02] <Konomi> yes how could I believe otherwise
[05:17:56] <Konomi> oh I am so sure you've done it for whole countries
[05:17:50] <Ethanol-fueled> You guys are acting like bad stereotypes of hackers.
[05:17:49] <NerfJihad> I know what it is you think you're talking about
[05:17:43] <NerfJihad> having built networks and secured them with whitelists and blacklists and SSH tunnels and watched them
[05:17:29] <Konomi> whatever you say oh all knowing one
[05:17:20] <Konomi> sure sure
[05:17:07] <NerfJihad> your lack of knowledge is glaring and obvious to any technician
[05:16:54] <Konomi> I'll leave you to your baseless presumptions have fun
[05:16:51] <SirFinkus> based on what I've read, the tor project hasn't had much success in china
[05:16:18] <Konomi> oh ho ho I know you are but what am I
[05:16:18] <NerfJihad> you sound like you've never cut wire
[05:16:06] <NerfJihad> you especially
[05:16:01] <Konomi> waste of time talking with people here since half the time they haven't got a clue
[05:15:54] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[05:15:53] <NerfJihad> LOL
[05:15:45] <Konomi> I'll just keep the discussion with people who are in and around the tor project
[05:15:32] <Konomi> if you say so
[05:15:31] <SirFinkus> so you DPI all traffic, look at where the encrypted connections are going, and set up a whitelist that will knock off any connection to a non-whitelisted site
[05:15:18] <NerfJihad> konomi: you're undermining your own point here
[05:14:46] <SirFinkus> yup
[05:14:45] <Konomi> we know they use sure whitelists and agressive black lists
[05:14:42] <Ethanol-fueled> What is the discussion here? The great firewall of China?
[05:14:39] <SirFinkus> it doesn't seem particularly difficult to set up, if your scheme becomes even slightly popular they'll lock that shit down
[05:14:37] <Konomi> they haven't made a white and a black list of every site
[05:14:22] <NerfJihad> also, what sirfinkus said
[05:13:45] <NerfJihad> everything that hits their network gets scanned by hardware. everything encrypted gets looked at by humans
[05:13:18] <SirFinkus> just look for encrypted traffic going to non-whitelisted ips
[05:13:16] <Konomi> you have a very loose defintion of everything
[05:13:15] <NerfJihad> humans watching screens in government owned buildings
[05:13:00] <NerfJihad> Konomi: they watch everything.
[05:12:59] <Konomi> and that would need humans to check it
[05:12:54] <Konomi> they also have to do it on a country scale
[05:12:48] <Konomi> well they don't have to just account for banking websites
[05:12:40] <SirFinkus> speyside, goes down pretty easy
[05:12:29] <SirFinkus> super easy to set up a whitelist
[05:12:15] <SirFinkus> you can still check the destination ips and correlate that with legitimate banking sites
[05:12:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Good drank for a fire
[05:11:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Sounds smoky.
[05:11:51] <SirFinkus> yup
[05:11:50] <Konomi> if they started blocking all encrpyted traffic period then people would be fucked
[05:11:46] <Ethanol-fueled> You and your oatis, Finkus. And is that some scotch sitting with it?
[05:11:40] <SirFinkus> you can still check for things like who they're connecting to
[05:11:25] <Konomi> it's just not in common use yet
[05:11:19] <Konomi> SirFinkus: obsfproxy will change the game since it makes any traffic look like legit ssl
[05:11:18] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[05:11:15] <Ethanol-fueled> For what, Finkus?
[05:11:14] <SirFinkus> sup Ethanol-fueled
[05:10:57] <Ethanol-fueled> AWOOAWOOAWOOAWOO!
[05:10:56] <SirFinkus> everything I've read indicates that any workarounds are routinely plugged
[05:10:51] <Ethanol-fueled> The evil bastard is back in town, ladies!
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[05:09:40] <NerfJihad> I don't believe you
[05:09:37] <NerfJihad> sorry, you had to quote greycoder verbatim to argue
[05:09:21] <NerfJihad> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[05:09:08] <Konomi> so yeah
[05:09:05] <Konomi> sometimes even ssh tunnels do well enough
[05:08:57] <Konomi> it works well enough as I have helped people set up work arounds around china's filters
[05:08:40] <SirFinkus> they aren't going to bitch about obscure things like blocking ssh tunneling
[05:08:27] <SirFinkus> undesirable? The populace already tolerates overt blocking of popular websites
[05:07:46] <Konomi> hard enough to make enough false positives to make it undersirable to do on mass
[05:07:40] <SirFinkus> the chinese are constantly plugging holes
[05:07:23] <SirFinkus> harder, but not impossible
[05:07:11] <Konomi> true but automated detection of that is harder than just checking protocols ;p
[05:06:46] <SirFinkus> usage patterns are different for general web browsing vs just general https encryption
[05:06:31] <Konomi> another option
[05:06:26] <Konomi> "Another method of avoiding Advance Deep Packet Inspection, is use OpenVPN through a SSL tunnel, to wrap you data in another layer of encryption. This makes your OpenVPN traffic virtually indistinguishable from regular SSL traffic, because Deep Packet Inspection cannot penetrate this addition layer of encryption."
[05:05:58] <Konomi> yay obsfproxy
[05:05:38] <Konomi> ;p
[05:05:37] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03How To Hide Your VPN Connections In China, Iran, United Arab Emirates, Oman and Pakistan - GreyCoder
[05:05:36] <Konomi> http://www.greycoder.com
[05:05:16] <SirFinkus> sure
[05:04:54] <Konomi> on port 443?
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[05:04:32] <SirFinkus> there's still a difference between online banking, and tunneling everything over ssh, it's pretty easy to detect that
[05:01:39] <Konomi> they still need to allow encrpyted traffic due to banking
[05:01:36] <SirFinkus> and block it
[05:01:26] <Konomi> and ;p ?
[05:01:13] <SirFinkus> yes, but you can still see there's encrypted traffic
[05:00:56] <Konomi> they won't be sniffing that part
[05:00:51] <Konomi> it's encrypted
[05:00:18] <SirFinkus> I don't see how shit like port knocking would defeat that
[04:59:27] <Konomi> rather than seeing the opening ssh protocol and going huh block
[04:59:19] <SirFinkus> I mean, if you're sniffing everything, it'd pretty pretty difficult to hide what you're doing
[04:59:18] <Konomi> so when they try to connect to your ssh they get rejected
[04:59:11] <Konomi> which is why you need the knock
[04:59:06] <Konomi> yeah but checking for the protocol
[04:58:52] <SirFinkus> I'd heard that they block ssh stuff too
[04:58:18] <Konomi> say a ssh tunnel that only opens after receiving a port knock or something like that
[04:58:02] <Konomi> you need special stuff now
[04:57:59] <Konomi> yeah
[04:56:40] <SirFinkus> pretty sure they've cracked down on vpns too
[04:54:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Project Binky - Episode 1 - Austin Mini GT-Four - Turbo Charged 4WD Mini - YouTube
[04:54:49] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[04:45:01] <Konomi> maybe you're potential customers will be using vpns
[04:44:51] <Konomi> \o/
[04:40:23] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I guess I won't be doing any business with anyone in China.
[04:39:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03 ( http://www.nytimes.com )
[04:39:21] <Konomi> http://www.nytimes.com
[04:34:20] <Konomi> dear [deity] please kill anyone using flash that is larger than 30% of the layout of the <body> thank you
[04:05:19] <SpallsHurgenson> my answer remains the same
[04:04:54] <SirFinkus> I've got Dave's Killer Bread if that factors into the decision
[04:03:21] <SpallsHurgenson> yes
[04:01:41] <SirFinkus> bacon egg and cheese sandwich or pizza?
[03:48:45] <Bender> karma - ciri: -33
[03:48:45] <Konomi> ciri-- # totally
[03:48:36] <SpallsHurgenson> ciri is the most beloved of bots
[03:43:47] <Konomi> lol
[03:39:06] <SirFinkus> go fuck yourself
[03:39:03] <SirFinkus> not you ciri
[03:39:01] <SirFinkus> should cover everyone
[03:38:57] <ciri> hi SirFinkus
[03:38:57] <SirFinkus> howdy folks
[03:38:54] <SirFinkus> morning folks
[03:37:22] <SpallsHurgenson> some morning folks are here too
[03:35:06] <SirFinkus> evening folks
[03:07:21] <SpallsHurgenson> I want a movie with guns 'n explosions 'n monsters 'n stuff
[03:03:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Bank of England to Monitor Social Networks - http://sylnt.us - tea-leaves-confirm-it
[02:56:11] <Landon> only want a chronological order on a few entries if that
[02:55:53] <Landon> much more suited to thoughts and mind mapping
[02:55:47] <Landon> I think I might start maintaining a wiki instead of a blog
[02:54:07] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Quake on an oscilloscope - YouTube
[02:54:07] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[02:54:04] <Landon> I can sorta see how it's good for scaling and having microservices, but at least do the decency of including some default configurations to stand it up
[02:53:34] <Landon> I'm just not familiar with the ruby/rails ecosystem I guess
[02:53:25] <Landon> gollum is pretty slick, but what a pain in the boot ox to set up
[02:52:30] <Konomi> bad scripts clean up after you make the sandwiches
[02:52:13] <Landon> more like 0.08
[02:52:10] <Landon> bonus: server isn't at 5 load anymore
[02:52:09] <SpallsHurgenson> hrmph. I meant my comment, not yours!! For I am an enigma cloaked in mystery shadowed by secrets surrounded by riddles wrapped in bacon!
[02:52:05] <Landon> woot, fixed upstart scripts to clean up after themselve
[02:50:09] <Konomi> I am being lazy my bad
[02:50:06] <Konomi> I don't know basically
[02:49:25] * SpallsHurgenson doesn't really know what that means but hopes it sounded mysterious
[02:49:18] <Konomi> idk!
[02:49:08] <SpallsHurgenson> not as much as you might expect :)
[02:45:20] <Konomi> this explains a lot ;p
[02:45:02] * SpallsHurgenson huffs some lemon pledge
[02:43:11] <SpallsHurgenson> floral scents are the devil's work (but citrus is divine)
[02:42:21] <Konomi> now my bed smells like itself
[02:42:17] <Konomi> for extra irony
[02:42:13] <Konomi> I sprayed my bed with it this morning
[02:42:08] <Konomi> I have air freshener that is defined as smelling like "fabric"
[02:41:45] <SpallsHurgenson> the whole init v. systemd debate is completely irrelevant to me, as I know the true winner will ultimately be the tried-and-tested MS DOS config.sys file :)
[02:40:30] <Konomi> lawl
[02:40:23] * SpallsHurgenson releases an ad hominem attack +5 against konomi
[02:40:01] <Konomi> sadly this is probably the most accurate phrasing of the systemd debate ever
[02:39:45] <SpallsHurgenson> nu-uh to infinity!
[02:39:36] <Konomi> is too is tooo I'm qualified!
[02:39:30] <Konomi> yeah-huh!
[02:32:52] <SpallsHurgenson> allow me to rebut: nuh-uh!
[02:28:23] <Konomi> everyone systemd is doomed to fail I know I'm an expert!
[02:27:53] <SpallsHurgenson> probably be better off archiving init; I mean, who's gonna use - or even remember - that in a few years?
[02:21:37] <Konomi> redundent copies of systemd source code
[02:18:35] <SpallsHurgenson> whatever shall I fill it with?
[02:18:27] * SpallsHurgenson revels in having more than 3TB disk space free on the network.
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[01:30:29] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
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[01:27:56] <SpallsHurgenson> my mustache DOES NOT come off
[01:17:59] <chromas> /topic Do you want the mustache on or off? Too bad
[01:16:14] <chromas> /topic bewbs
[01:15:31] <SpallsHurgenson> the anticipation is killing me!
[01:15:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I wonder if we'll get a new topic for the new year.
[01:15:00] <chromas> I think I might leave
[01:14:55] <chromas> shitty huh
[01:10:00] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, it's always the same people in here :)
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[01:04:19] <arti> also, maybe they can tax the process too
[01:04:10] <arti> sounds like more money
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[00:59:00] <nick> having to 'renew' plates
[00:58:55] <nick> i've never heard of that before
[00:58:43] <nick> well that sounds like a load of shit
[00:48:37] <chromas> the ub can suck it, but I couldn't find the seattle times article
[00:48:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03State, 3M, prisons to profit from license plate requirements | Walla Walla Union-Bulletin
[00:48:08] <chromas> http://union-bulletin.com
[00:39:10] <crutchy> err ##php
[00:39:04] <crutchy> i'm bickering in #php on freenode :p
[00:36:49] <Konomi> I have found your problem
[00:36:46] <Konomi> "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:31:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The One Mistake Google Keeps Making - http://sylnt.us - reinvent-the-wheel
[00:16:16] <chromas> :D :D :D
[00:16:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03systemd: Assumptions, Bullying, Consent
[00:16:08] <chromas> http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net
[00:16:05] * chromas pulls out a systemd link to get things started >:)
[00:15:54] <Blackmoore> I'm old too. and wish i could stop working to take a nap
[00:15:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't look at me to keep up conversation. i'm old n like taking naps.
[00:14:04] <Blackmoore> well, it's trouble
[00:13:15] <chromas> crutchy: yeah, this channel is dead :D
[00:12:59] <chromas> they're all still there but nobody uses them
[00:11:49] <nick> there's an SN channel on freenode still?
[00:11:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i been gone all day
[00:11:12] <crutchy> :/
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[00:11:10] <crutchy> all the action seems to be on freenode
[00:11:03] <crutchy> very quiet here