#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-30
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[00:11:03] <crutchy> very quiet here
[00:11:10] <crutchy> all the action seems to be on freenode
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[00:11:12] <crutchy> :/
[00:11:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i been gone all day
[00:11:49] <nick> there's an SN channel on freenode still?
[00:12:59] <chromas> they're all still there but nobody uses them
[00:13:15] <chromas> crutchy: yeah, this channel is dead :D
[00:14:04] <Blackmoore> well, it's trouble
[00:15:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't look at me to keep up conversation. i'm old n like taking naps.
[00:15:54] <Blackmoore> I'm old too. and wish i could stop working to take a nap
[00:16:05] * chromas pulls out a systemd link to get things started >:)
[00:16:08] <chromas> http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net
[00:16:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03systemd: Assumptions, Bullying, Consent
[00:16:16] <chromas> :D :D :D
[00:31:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The One Mistake Google Keeps Making - http://sylnt.us - reinvent-the-wheel
[00:36:46] <Konomi> "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:36:49] <Konomi> I have found your problem
[00:39:04] <crutchy> i'm bickering in #php on freenode :p
[00:39:10] <crutchy> err ##php
[00:48:08] <chromas> http://union-bulletin.com
[00:48:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03State, 3M, prisons to profit from license plate requirements | Walla Walla Union-Bulletin
[00:48:37] <chromas> the ub can suck it, but I couldn't find the seattle times article
[00:58:43] <nick> well that sounds like a load of shit
[00:58:55] <nick> i've never heard of that before
[00:59:00] <nick> having to 'renew' plates
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[01:04:10] <arti> sounds like more money
[01:04:19] <arti> also, maybe they can tax the process too
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[01:10:00] <SpallsHurgenson> geez, it's always the same people in here :)
[01:14:55] <chromas> shitty huh
[01:15:00] <chromas> I think I might leave
[01:15:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I wonder if we'll get a new topic for the new year.
[01:15:31] <SpallsHurgenson> the anticipation is killing me!
[01:16:14] <chromas> /topic bewbs
[01:17:59] <chromas> /topic Do you want the mustache on or off? Too bad
[01:27:56] <SpallsHurgenson> my mustache DOES NOT come off
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[01:30:29] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[01:30:29] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Do you want the mustache on or off? - YouTube
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[02:18:27] * SpallsHurgenson revels in having more than 3TB disk space free on the network.
[02:18:35] <SpallsHurgenson> whatever shall I fill it with?
[02:21:37] <Konomi> redundent copies of systemd source code
[02:27:53] <SpallsHurgenson> probably be better off archiving init; I mean, who's gonna use - or even remember - that in a few years?
[02:28:23] <Konomi> everyone systemd is doomed to fail I know I'm an expert!
[02:32:52] <SpallsHurgenson> allow me to rebut: nuh-uh!
[02:39:30] <Konomi> yeah-huh!
[02:39:36] <Konomi> is too is tooo I'm qualified!
[02:39:45] <SpallsHurgenson> nu-uh to infinity!
[02:40:01] <Konomi> sadly this is probably the most accurate phrasing of the systemd debate ever
[02:40:23] * SpallsHurgenson releases an ad hominem attack +5 against konomi
[02:40:30] <Konomi> lawl
[02:41:45] <SpallsHurgenson> the whole init v. systemd debate is completely irrelevant to me, as I know the true winner will ultimately be the tried-and-tested MS DOS config.sys file :)
[02:42:08] <Konomi> I have air freshener that is defined as smelling like "fabric"
[02:42:13] <Konomi> I sprayed my bed with it this morning
[02:42:17] <Konomi> for extra irony
[02:42:21] <Konomi> now my bed smells like itself
[02:43:11] <SpallsHurgenson> floral scents are the devil's work (but citrus is divine)
[02:45:02] * SpallsHurgenson huffs some lemon pledge
[02:45:20] <Konomi> this explains a lot ;p
[02:49:08] <SpallsHurgenson> not as much as you might expect :)
[02:49:18] <Konomi> idk!
[02:49:25] * SpallsHurgenson doesn't really know what that means but hopes it sounded mysterious
[02:50:06] <Konomi> I don't know basically
[02:50:09] <Konomi> I am being lazy my bad
[02:52:05] <Landon> woot, fixed upstart scripts to clean up after themselve
[02:52:09] <SpallsHurgenson> hrmph. I meant my comment, not yours!! For I am an enigma cloaked in mystery shadowed by secrets surrounded by riddles wrapped in bacon!
[02:52:10] <Landon> bonus: server isn't at 5 load anymore
[02:52:13] <Landon> more like 0.08
[02:52:30] <Konomi> bad scripts clean up after you make the sandwiches
[02:53:25] <Landon> gollum is pretty slick, but what a pain in the boot ox to set up
[02:53:34] <Landon> I'm just not familiar with the ruby/rails ecosystem I guess
[02:54:04] <Landon> I can sorta see how it's good for scaling and having microservices, but at least do the decency of including some default configurations to stand it up
[02:54:07] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[02:54:07] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Quake on an oscilloscope - YouTube
[02:55:47] <Landon> I think I might start maintaining a wiki instead of a blog
[02:55:53] <Landon> much more suited to thoughts and mind mapping
[02:56:11] <Landon> only want a chronological order on a few entries if that
[03:03:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Bank of England to Monitor Social Networks - http://sylnt.us - tea-leaves-confirm-it
[03:07:21] <SpallsHurgenson> I want a movie with guns 'n explosions 'n monsters 'n stuff
[03:35:06] <SirFinkus> evening folks
[03:37:22] <SpallsHurgenson> some morning folks are here too
[03:38:54] <SirFinkus> morning folks
[03:38:57] <SirFinkus> howdy folks
[03:38:57] <ciri> hi SirFinkus
[03:39:01] <SirFinkus> should cover everyone
[03:39:03] <SirFinkus> not you ciri
[03:39:06] <SirFinkus> go fuck yourself
[03:43:47] <Konomi> lol
[03:48:36] <SpallsHurgenson> ciri is the most beloved of bots
[03:48:45] <Konomi> ciri-- # totally
[03:48:45] <Bender> karma - ciri: -33
[04:01:41] <SirFinkus> bacon egg and cheese sandwich or pizza?
[04:03:21] <SpallsHurgenson> yes
[04:04:54] <SirFinkus> I've got Dave's Killer Bread if that factors into the decision
[04:05:19] <SpallsHurgenson> my answer remains the same
[04:34:20] <Konomi> dear [deity] please kill anyone using flash that is larger than 30% of the layout of the <body> thank you
[04:39:21] <Konomi> http://www.nytimes.com
[04:39:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03 ( http://www.nytimes.com )
[04:40:23] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I guess I won't be doing any business with anyone in China.
[04:44:51] <Konomi> \o/
[04:45:01] <Konomi> maybe you're potential customers will be using vpns
[04:54:49] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[04:54:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Project Binky - Episode 1 - Austin Mini GT-Four - Turbo Charged 4WD Mini - YouTube
[04:56:40] <SirFinkus> pretty sure they've cracked down on vpns too
[04:57:59] <Konomi> yeah
[04:58:02] <Konomi> you need special stuff now
[04:58:18] <Konomi> say a ssh tunnel that only opens after receiving a port knock or something like that
[04:58:52] <SirFinkus> I'd heard that they block ssh stuff too
[04:59:06] <Konomi> yeah but checking for the protocol
[04:59:11] <Konomi> which is why you need the knock
[04:59:18] <Konomi> so when they try to connect to your ssh they get rejected
[04:59:19] <SirFinkus> I mean, if you're sniffing everything, it'd pretty pretty difficult to hide what you're doing
[04:59:27] <Konomi> rather than seeing the opening ssh protocol and going huh block
[05:00:18] <SirFinkus> I don't see how shit like port knocking would defeat that
[05:00:51] <Konomi> it's encrypted
[05:00:56] <Konomi> they won't be sniffing that part
[05:01:13] <SirFinkus> yes, but you can still see there's encrypted traffic
[05:01:26] <Konomi> and ;p ?
[05:01:36] <SirFinkus> and block it
[05:01:39] <Konomi> they still need to allow encrpyted traffic due to banking
[05:04:32] <SirFinkus> there's still a difference between online banking, and tunneling everything over ssh, it's pretty easy to detect that
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[05:04:54] <Konomi> on port 443?
[05:05:16] <SirFinkus> sure
[05:05:36] <Konomi> http://www.greycoder.com
[05:05:37] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03How To Hide Your VPN Connections In China, Iran, United Arab Emirates, Oman and Pakistan - GreyCoder
[05:05:38] <Konomi> ;p
[05:05:58] <Konomi> yay obsfproxy
[05:06:26] <Konomi> "Another method of avoiding Advance Deep Packet Inspection, is use OpenVPN through a SSL tunnel, to wrap you data in another layer of encryption. This makes your OpenVPN traffic virtually indistinguishable from regular SSL traffic, because Deep Packet Inspection cannot penetrate this addition layer of encryption."
[05:06:31] <Konomi> another option
[05:06:46] <SirFinkus> usage patterns are different for general web browsing vs just general https encryption
[05:07:11] <Konomi> true but automated detection of that is harder than just checking protocols ;p
[05:07:23] <SirFinkus> harder, but not impossible
[05:07:40] <SirFinkus> the chinese are constantly plugging holes
[05:07:46] <Konomi> hard enough to make enough false positives to make it undersirable to do on mass
[05:08:27] <SirFinkus> undesirable? The populace already tolerates overt blocking of popular websites
[05:08:40] <SirFinkus> they aren't going to bitch about obscure things like blocking ssh tunneling
[05:08:57] <Konomi> it works well enough as I have helped people set up work arounds around china's filters
[05:09:05] <Konomi> sometimes even ssh tunnels do well enough
[05:09:08] <Konomi> so yeah
[05:09:21] <NerfJihad> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[05:09:37] <NerfJihad> sorry, you had to quote greycoder verbatim to argue
[05:09:40] <NerfJihad> I don't believe you
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[05:10:51] <Ethanol-fueled> The evil bastard is back in town, ladies!
[05:10:56] <SirFinkus> everything I've read indicates that any workarounds are routinely plugged
[05:10:57] <Ethanol-fueled> AWOOAWOOAWOOAWOO!
[05:11:14] <SirFinkus> sup Ethanol-fueled
[05:11:15] <Ethanol-fueled> For what, Finkus?
[05:11:18] <SirFinkus> http://i.imgur.com
[05:11:19] <Konomi> SirFinkus: obsfproxy will change the game since it makes any traffic look like legit ssl
[05:11:25] <Konomi> it's just not in common use yet
[05:11:40] <SirFinkus> you can still check for things like who they're connecting to
[05:11:46] <Ethanol-fueled> You and your oatis, Finkus. And is that some scotch sitting with it?
[05:11:50] <Konomi> if they started blocking all encrpyted traffic period then people would be fucked
[05:11:51] <SirFinkus> yup
[05:11:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Sounds smoky.
[05:12:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Good drank for a fire
[05:12:15] <SirFinkus> you can still check the destination ips and correlate that with legitimate banking sites
[05:12:29] <SirFinkus> super easy to set up a whitelist
[05:12:40] <SirFinkus> speyside, goes down pretty easy
[05:12:48] <Konomi> well they don't have to just account for banking websites
[05:12:54] <Konomi> they also have to do it on a country scale
[05:12:59] <Konomi> and that would need humans to check it
[05:13:00] <NerfJihad> Konomi: they watch everything.
[05:13:15] <NerfJihad> humans watching screens in government owned buildings
[05:13:16] <Konomi> you have a very loose defintion of everything
[05:13:18] <SirFinkus> just look for encrypted traffic going to non-whitelisted ips
[05:13:45] <NerfJihad> everything that hits their network gets scanned by hardware. everything encrypted gets looked at by humans
[05:14:22] <NerfJihad> also, what sirfinkus said
[05:14:37] <Konomi> they haven't made a white and a black list of every site
[05:14:39] <SirFinkus> it doesn't seem particularly difficult to set up, if your scheme becomes even slightly popular they'll lock that shit down
[05:14:42] <Ethanol-fueled> What is the discussion here? The great firewall of China?
[05:14:45] <Konomi> we know they use sure whitelists and agressive black lists
[05:14:46] <SirFinkus> yup
[05:15:18] <NerfJihad> konomi: you're undermining your own point here
[05:15:31] <SirFinkus> so you DPI all traffic, look at where the encrypted connections are going, and set up a whitelist that will knock off any connection to a non-whitelisted site
[05:15:32] <Konomi> if you say so
[05:15:45] <Konomi> I'll just keep the discussion with people who are in and around the tor project
[05:15:53] <NerfJihad> LOL
[05:15:54] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[05:16:01] <Konomi> waste of time talking with people here since half the time they haven't got a clue
[05:16:06] <NerfJihad> you especially
[05:16:18] <NerfJihad> you sound like you've never cut wire
[05:16:18] <Konomi> oh ho ho I know you are but what am I
[05:16:51] <SirFinkus> based on what I've read, the tor project hasn't had much success in china
[05:16:54] <Konomi> I'll leave you to your baseless presumptions have fun
[05:17:07] <NerfJihad> your lack of knowledge is glaring and obvious to any technician
[05:17:20] <Konomi> sure sure
[05:17:29] <Konomi> whatever you say oh all knowing one
[05:17:43] <NerfJihad> having built networks and secured them with whitelists and blacklists and SSH tunnels and watched them
[05:17:49] <NerfJihad> I know what it is you think you're talking about
[05:17:50] <Ethanol-fueled> You guys are acting like bad stereotypes of hackers.
[05:17:56] <Konomi> oh I am so sure you've done it for whole countries
[05:18:02] <Konomi> yes how could I believe otherwise
[05:18:03] <NerfJihad> no, just small businesses
[05:18:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Whatever happened to sneaking into the building and getting into the kernel?
[05:18:18] <Konomi> right cause that small scale totally scales up to a whole country right right?
[05:18:21] <SirFinkus> little buzzed, I like starting arguments
[05:18:29] <NerfJihad> Konomi: you sound womangry
[05:18:43] <SirFinkus> yeah, actually, when you control all the edge routers
[05:18:49] <NerfJihad> ^ this
[05:18:58] <NerfJihad> one point of connection = I watch all the traffic
[05:19:21] <NerfJihad> unless the rebels are running their own transpacific cables, they're still using the gov't network
[05:19:33] <Konomi> ah bringing gender into it very classy
[05:19:43] <Konomi> ignored thanks for playing
[05:19:45] <NerfJihad> bringing class into it, very marxist
[05:19:45] <SirFinkus> always satellite and stuff, but kind of shitty
[05:20:59] <Ethanol-fueled> W-what about steganography?
[05:21:03] <NerfJihad> SirFinkus: of course! how could I have forgotten the brave rocket scientists fighting censorship with unauthorized satellite launches....
[05:21:26] <Ethanol-fueled> L-Like, couldn't one encode a message into a totally innocuous e-mail, or an image attachement or something?
[05:21:29] <NerfJihad> Ethanol-fueled: no, no, ignore the 5gb photo of puppies in the hidden folder
[05:21:34] <SirFinkus> stenagraphy is cool, might work
[05:21:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Herfjihad, that's not very smooth. Send small images over a series of messages.
[05:22:24] <NerfJihad> Ethanol-fueled: more time = more opportunities to be intercepted
[05:22:26] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, that's "steganography," not "stenography"
[05:22:39] <SirFinkus> sorry, never claimed to be a speller
[05:22:42] <NerfJihad> establishing a history of communication is bad too
[05:23:15] <Ethanol-fueled> NerfJihad, honestly, I doubt the reds are looking for custom-encrypted messages in images...especially if you're working with the pixel data and not just shoehorning a bunch of weird garbage in the file.
[05:23:48] <SirFinkus> they would if someone posted a popular message they didn't like using that method
[05:23:49] <NerfJihad> they're paranoid little fucks
[05:23:56] <SirFinkus> it would be difficult to block though
[05:24:15] <Ethanol-fueled> paranoid "little" fucks? That's RACIST
[05:24:19] <NerfJihad> LOL
[05:24:19] <ciri> heh
[05:24:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Yao Ming would beg to differ.
[05:24:49] <NerfJihad> 1 out of how many BILLIONS plays pro NBA?
[05:25:25] <Ethanol-fueled> Actually, there are a LOT of Chinese in sensitive positions within defense contractors and other organinzations in the US.
[05:26:04] <NerfJihad> of course?
[05:26:28] <NerfJihad> it's not a shooting war, it's just sabotage and espionage
[05:27:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Of course. We have a guy where I work, Dr. Chung Wang. I caught him sneaking a briefcase out of the building. He was looking around all shifty-eyed and papers were spilling out everywhere but I told him stop and he threw the briefcase up in the air and ran.
[05:27:31] <NerfJihad> probably a decoy for the black team loading pallets of servers out the loading bay
[05:28:49] <Ethanol-fueled> NerfJihad, they were there to. They had a big black helicopter with a winch pick it up. And that copter had a big red star on it.
[05:28:53] <SirFinkus> physical theft of hardware is so oldschool
[05:29:21] <SirFinkus> why not just use the backdoors in the software and all the cisco routers people are running?
[05:29:47] <Ethanol-fueled> But seriously, do people other than pen-testers still sow around bunches of USB drives and sneak their way into the actual machines?
[05:29:54] <Ethanol-fueled> No shit, SirFinkus.
[05:30:26] <Ethanol-fueled> And what's up with that so-called attack on the ToR network?
[05:30:54] <SirFinkus> seems like just a troll to me, pretty sure everything's been blacklisted/shut down by now
[05:31:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Elaborate, please, Finkus.
[05:31:07] <SirFinkus> they rented a bunch of google compute instances
[05:31:39] <SirFinkus> can't imagine they're still running, although I'd admit I haven't checked the situation in a while
[05:32:00] <SirFinkus> it takes a while for a tor relay to really be utilized fully, like 3 months of tests are run on it first
[05:32:34] <SirFinkus> maybe Konomi could elaborate since she seems to have ties to the tor project
[05:33:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Yes, tell us Konomi, who pretends to ignore me.
[05:33:53] <Konomi> read the spec and figure it out yourselves
[05:33:54] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm just a goddamn idiot. I don't know shit. But I'd like to know.
[05:34:42] <SirFinkus> I've read the spec, just didn't know details about the specific "attack"
[05:35:00] <SirFinkus> 88 days or something for a node to be fully validated
[05:35:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, SirFinkus, that's the elephant in the room. How were they alerted to the attacks? Who perpetrated the attacks?
[05:35:22] <SirFinkus> 3 separate testing periods
[05:35:24] <ciri> 4
[05:35:25] <ciri> 5
[05:35:26] <ciri> 6
[05:35:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Or could it just be a bunch of BS to discourage ToR use?
[05:35:28] <ciri> 7
[05:35:30] <ciri> 8
[05:35:32] <ciri> 9
[05:35:34] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:35:40] <SirFinkus> naw, the relays are/where real
[05:35:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Then how were they tipped off about the attack?
[05:36:01] <SirFinkus> same guys who did the xbox live/psn attacks apparently
[05:36:15] <SirFinkus> guy on the mailing list noticed new relays
[05:36:19] <SirFinkus> there were a LOT
[05:36:39] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, I heard something about hardware access to the compromised relays. I doubt your average angry North Korean could pull that off halfway across the world.
[05:36:54] <SirFinkus> naw, this is a different group
[05:36:59] <SirFinkus> anon trolls
[05:37:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, right Finkus.
[05:37:06] <SirFinkus> lizzard squad or something
[05:37:23] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah. But that still doesn't explain the attacks being physical access to the servers.
[05:37:32] <Ethanol-fueled> disinfo all around.
[05:37:42] <SirFinkus> this is a different attack, I guess we're talking about different things
[05:37:45] <SirFinkus> there were two things
[05:37:55] <SirFinkus> the server seizure, and the new relays
[05:38:35] <SirFinkus> the server seizure is thought to be related to that vague blog post on the tor site about relay directories being attacked
[05:39:38] <SirFinkus> the former sounds like fed shit, the latter sounds like it was "fur teh lulz"
[05:39:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Ah, gotcha.
[05:41:04] <SirFinkus> I'll admit I haven't read anything in the past few days, so I don't really know how all this developed
[05:51:46] <Ethanol-fueled> So who else things the Beatles suck?
[05:52:31] <SirFinkus> not a huge fan, but I wouldn't say they suck
[05:53:43] <Ethanol-fueled> They were the Nirvana of their time.
[05:55:22] <SirFinkus> I wouldn't say nirvana sucked either, just not my style
[05:55:36] <SirFinkus> seemed somewhat genuine
[05:56:14] <SirFinkus> which is really my filter for whether an artist is legitimate or not
[05:59:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, the submissions have been really great lately.
[06:00:37] <Ethanol-fueled> That quake on an O-scope is rad.
[06:00:55] <SirFinkus> yeah, I saw that one on hackerne.ws
[06:01:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Glad they did it on a CRT o-scope. A lot of modern o-scopes run some variant of windows'
[06:02:10] <SirFinkus> ew
[06:02:29] <SirFinkus> that seems almost sacrilegious
[06:06:58] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus: And the best part is that WIndows-based O-scopes bug out and you have to do a hard-reset.
[06:11:32] <SirFinkus> of course
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[06:16:31] <Konomi> hey um NightHawk did you ever float around dalnet ages ago out of curiousity?
[06:17:52] <NightHawk> Probably wasn't me. I've never really been an IRC regular anywhere.
[06:18:06] <Konomi> someone else then hehe
[06:18:26] <Konomi> hi anyway
[06:18:27] <ciri> hello, whats up Konomi
[06:18:37] <Konomi> ciri-- # >,,<
[06:18:37] <Bender> karma - ciri: -34
[06:18:53] <NightHawk> And merry something to you too :)
[06:19:06] <Konomi> merry [holiday thing]
[06:20:28] <Konomi> watching someone build a car from scratch is quite interesting well almost from scratch
[06:20:40] <Konomi> "I made a bulk head" is not a phrase you get to use often
[06:20:40] <SirFinkus> mmm, bacon egg and cheese sandwich
[06:20:45] <NightHawk> I haven't been paying much attention to the news lately, is this well known (old) news? http://www.zdnet.com
[06:20:46] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Why Kim Dotcom buying off Lizard Squad was the wrong move | ZDNet
[06:20:59] <SirFinkus> yeah, it's hilarious
[06:21:15] <Konomi> heh I look foward to the interesting future of internet things + hacking
[06:23:05] <Konomi> I like how the video started out as rebuilding it from scratch but the shell had so much rush they must've replaced at least 80% of it
[06:23:18] <Konomi> I think all that's left is the roof and parts of the shell that cover the wheels
[06:23:37] <Konomi> rust&
[06:23:43] <Konomi> not sure where I got rush from
[06:25:15] <Konomi> nevermind the wheel arches are going now ;p
[06:27:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Wow, how...um....well, convenient how kim dotcom is buying off lizard squad.
[06:27:19] <Konomi> has to be the worst name for a "hacker group"
[06:27:55] <Ethanol-fueled> No, this is all garbage to entertain milleniels with existentialist ponderings.
[06:28:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Just more media bullshit.
[06:28:27] <Konomi> starting to sound old there
[06:28:52] * Ethanol-fueled starts the "nigger wars" which were not engineerined by some Jew veteran producer of reality TV.
[06:29:17] <Subsentient> What do you call a baker with diarrhea? Fudge ripple.
[06:29:21] <Ethanol-fueled> "oh my god, those are offensive! And they have Brylcream ads!"
[06:29:40] <SirFinkus> race baiting is pretty prevalent in the US media
[06:29:43] <SirFinkus> really annoying
[06:30:02] <NightHawk> 'tis the time of year for existentialist ponderings. Better than observing the state of your own life.
[06:30:05] <SirFinkus> though everyone loves a good race riot I suppose
[06:30:09] <Konomi> and there go the rear panels
[06:30:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, so let's say that anything we don't agree with is "race baiting." Plus, none of you knew what Brylcreem was until I told you.
[06:30:35] <SirFinkus> I spend enough time examining my own life, tyvm
[06:30:57] <Ethanol-fueled> that is why the NSA machine will fail. Because it doesn't know what Brylcreem is.
[06:31:47] <SirFinkus> naw, US media salivates over the prospect of a race roit
[06:31:53] <Ethanol-fueled> This is how we sill stop them.
[06:32:22] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, this is true. Mainstream media is trying their damdest to start race-riots. But why?
[06:32:45] <SirFinkus> my feeling is that they just like good ratings
[06:32:46] <Ethanol-fueled> DIvide-and-conquer to distract the commonfolk from the real issues?
[06:32:47] <NightHawk> Weapons of mass distraction?
[06:33:10] <Ethanol-fueled> NightHawk - close - they need an excuse for lockdown.
[06:33:26] <SirFinkus> I'm less cynical about the media, I just thing they want sensationalism
[06:33:43] <SirFinkus> it makes the easy to manipulate by the feds of course
[06:33:43] <Konomi> sounds like the mainstream media to me
[06:34:04] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, while this is true, notice how quiet they fell about the Snowden leaks after the unredacted raw pipe to Israel was revealed.
[06:34:08] <Konomi> technically the just want viewier counts and drama is best for that
[06:34:48] <SirFinkus> I seem to remember other high profile events taking over
[06:35:12] <SirFinkus> that plane crash in san francisco I think, I've forgotten the timeline
[06:35:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Global Citizenship: Technology is Rapidly Dissolving National Borders - http://sylnt.us - global-and-proud
[06:36:26] <Ethanol-fueled> IS that what is going on? That there is nothing going on in the world? That people must have something going on lest they fall prey to existentialist anxiety and fall prey to actually killing others?
[06:36:45] * Ethanol-fueled bails to read Dostoevsky again.
[06:36:53] <SirFinkus> privacy isn't sexy enough, the initial hunt for snowden was compelling, but once that ended it wasn't interesting to most people anymore
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[06:37:35] <Ethanol-fueled> SirFinkus, that is why now is a good time to give up on society.
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[06:38:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Please allow me to share with you all a quote from the movie "The Devil's Advocate"...
[06:39:15] <Ethanol-fueled> " You sharpen the human appetite to the point where it can split atoms with its desire; you build egos the size of cathedrals; fiber-optically connect the world to every eager impulse; grease even the dullest dreams with these dollar-green, gold-plated fantasies, until every human becomes an aspiring emperor, becomes his own God... and where can you go from there? "
[06:40:47] <SirFinkus> sounds about right
[06:41:05] <NightHawk> You think we're all doomed?
[06:41:42] <Ethanol-fueled> NightHawk, no. To quote my grandma who lived through the great depression:...
[06:41:48] <SirFinkus> wouldn't say doomed, but society at large is destined to fall into the same traps over and over again
[06:42:23] <Ethanol-fueled> "This is all bullshit. This happens again and again and you do what you do because there will always be this shit in the world. "
[06:43:30] <Ethanol-fueled> The short version is that goodness prevails over evil. Or, how I interpret it, is that evil is not stupid enough to wipe itself out.
[06:43:33] <NightHawk> Some context might be nice. In other words what was "this" referring to?
[06:44:47] <NightHawk> You put it that way and it sounds optimistic. (The first short version)
[06:44:50] <Ethanol-fueled> NightHawk: "This" is not referring to the calling class, but to people in charge being stupud.
[06:46:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Peoples undergo painful periods of self-correction because they don't learn from history.
[06:47:14] <Konomi> should've clubbed that person like they did in the past when I had the oppunity
[06:47:28] <Konomi> \o/
[06:56:03] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm shedding manly tears at Trabia garden.
[06:57:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Doze electric pianos.
[07:15:44] <SirFinkus> doxylamine succinate is neat
[07:17:06] <Ethanol-fueled> WhaT i HATE IS THAT PRICK.
[07:17:56] <SirFinkus> yeah, fuck that prick
[07:18:25] <Ethanol-fueled> what makes me angry is that we cannot escape the fucking prick.
[07:18:38] <Ethanol-fueled> LETS PLAY
[07:18:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck that faggot asshole.
[07:20:38] <SirFinkus> I've got 20 minutes before this knocks me out
[07:22:26] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[07:22:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Data Kills Troi - Star Trek TNG - YouTube
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[08:02:29] <crutchy> driving--
[08:02:29] <Bender> karma - driving: -3
[08:10:46] <crutchy> i think i need some filtering for the freenode forwarding. atm its just a barrage of joins/parts/quits mainly
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[08:43:31] <Konomi> crutchy: most relay bots turn off network activity and just relay messages
[08:43:42] <Konomi> mostly cause of what you have discovered
[08:44:05] <Konomi> crutchy you might like this: https://www.youtube.com
[08:44:05] <Hedonismbot> * 03Project Binky - Episode 1 - Austin Mini GT-Four - Turbo Charged 4WD Mini - YouTube
[08:44:10] <Konomi> there's 8 videos
[08:48:26] <Konomi> also fyi anyone looking to tag files with replaygain I found "ex falso" pretty impressed with it, it can even tag ogg/opus combination
[08:53:24] <ar> moin
[08:53:47] <Konomi> hey ar
[09:06:57] <chromas> I got the boot from all the devuan channels :)
[09:11:41] <Konomi> what did you say ;p
[09:13:52] <chromas> nothin'
[09:14:19] <Konomi> oh I am sure ;p
[09:14:55] <chromas> I guess coagin though I was friends with one of the obnoxious guys in there and he went on a kickban spree
[09:15:21] <chromas> Theriouthly, I'm kind of disappointed I didn't get some trollin' in and earn the ban :D
[09:16:13] <Konomi> doubt the project would last I'm just ignoring it at the moment
[09:16:38] <Konomi> debian is busy plugging all the bugs before release anyway
[09:17:03] <Konomi> stablisation period is a bit more boring than I would like but has to be done
[09:17:43] <chromas> sssh
[09:18:05] <chromas> don't say that. it's got the systemd and it's buggy even though it's called 'testing' that doesn't mean anything! wahh!!
[09:18:29] <Konomi> oh yeah my systems are exploding every day yep for sure
[09:19:45] * chromas blames debian for everything
[09:21:43] <chromas> for example, the messy shell scripts they wanted to replace—they could've just written better ones
[09:22:19] <ar> systemd likes to explode on systemd upgrade
[09:22:21] <ar> +s
[09:22:30] <ar> (yay fedora)
[09:22:35] <Konomi> done 5 upgrades no explosions here
[09:22:37] <Konomi> oh fedora
[09:22:42] <Konomi> shrug don't know what they do
[09:23:30] <Konomi> to my knowledge there are no bug reports in debian testing that indicate systemd has made anyones system unbootable
[09:23:35] <chromas> When I tried Fedora few years ago, it was that security thing I always forget the name of that exploded
[09:23:53] <Konomi> there are little annoying problems here and there but those are slowly getting fixed
[09:24:47] <Konomi> I wish people would write stories and make outrages over some of my patches that fix some projects never getting accepted
[09:24:57] <chromas> might've been SELinux. The thing that tells you to "feck off you can't do that 'cause there's no rule fer it"
[09:25:16] <chromas> you need some PR
[09:25:17] <Konomi> be nice if all the people whining about systemd put their effort into getting fixes for software pushed rather than some project just existing
[09:25:41] <chromas> at least some claim that patches don't get accepted
[09:25:57] <chromas> of course, they don't say if the patch was any good or if it 'fixed' something in a dumb way
[09:25:58] <Konomi> my systemd patch was accepted ~
[09:26:08] <Konomi> well one I had help with I suck at C ;p
[09:26:17] <ar> Konomi: openrc needs no fixes; works purrfectly'
[09:26:20] <ar> ;>
[09:26:30] <Konomi> perfect software surreeee
[09:26:43] <chromas> kittyctl start mewing
[09:29:15] <Konomi> god I hate doing QC
[09:30:14] <ar> questionable content?
[09:31:50] <Konomi> quality checking
[09:31:57] <Konomi> that comic is awesome ;p
[09:32:01] <Konomi> would never hate lol
[09:33:50] <Konomi> correction quality control
[09:34:15] <crutchy> chromas, how did you get banned?
[09:34:30] <crutchy> were you stoking the fire?
[09:34:52] <chromas> Do you remember the guy named DevTwo? He talks funny and uses four spaces in place of commas
[09:35:10] <crutchy> dunno
[09:35:24] <Konomi> he said he owned a systemd badge
[09:35:25] <crutchy> did you get banned from #devuan and #devuan-dev?
[09:35:25] <chromas> but I went into some channel he had and he opped me, then later coagin kickbanned me from three channels
[09:35:34] <chromas> crutchy: yep
[09:35:38] <crutchy> damn
[09:35:42] <crutchy> i'll forward them :p
[09:35:46] <crutchy> :D
[09:36:18] <chromas> Konomi: not far from the truth :) they've kickbanned some other people who weren't totally foaming-at-the-mouth raging against the systemd
[09:36:46] <Konomi> religion or technology
[09:36:57] <Konomi> only some people are able to blend the two to disturbing degrees
[09:37:13] <crutchy> i've got my little sylnt minion in those channels now
[09:37:52] <Konomi> I'm still kinda laughing about it all to be honest
[09:38:05] <Konomi> first I heard of systemd was from a few arch friends because they got it about a year before everyone else
[09:38:15] <Konomi> and all the talk was extremely positive at the time
[09:38:18] <chromas> well all they had to do was make sure systemd-shim keeps working
[09:38:26] <Konomi> then it gets released to debian and other distros and what a mood change
[09:38:35] <Konomi> I didn't even like systemd at the time
[09:38:52] <chromas> well it also started mission creeping
[09:38:59] <chromas> and became an umbrella project like JDE
[09:39:03] <crutchy> systemd is the empire cos it doesn't have a princess leia
[09:39:03] <chromas> s/J/K/
[09:39:03] <SedNotABot> <chromas> and became an umbrella project like KDE
[09:39:07] <Konomi> mission creep is only there if you op in
[09:39:12] <chromas> wow, nobody's used SedBot in awhile
[09:39:16] <Konomi> just like the linux kernel you can change what you want at compile time
[09:39:23] <crutchy> if poettering had nice bewbs it might be different
[09:39:23] <Konomi> only has creep if you want it
[09:39:49] <chromas> it's also there when the project maintainers all put their software together into the same repo
[09:40:01] <crutchy> imagine if nixiepixel developed systemd
[09:40:14] <chromas> of course, some are going derp on dbus now too
[09:40:34] <chromas> crutchy: then it'd be lots of talking and no action :D
[09:40:40] <crutchy> and x! it's the devil!
[09:41:06] <crutchy> and the kernel! it has been forced on us all!
[09:41:27] <crutchy> chromas, s/talking/drooling/
[09:41:27] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> <chromas> crutchy: then it'd be lots of drooling and no action :D
[09:41:41] <chromas> on the viewer's end, sure
[09:41:53] <chromas> s/(')(s)/\2\1/
[09:41:53] <SedNotABot> <chromas> on the viewers' end, sure
[09:42:47] <chromas> the arch user repo has a bunch of nosystemd packages
[09:43:04] <chromas> but I don't mind systemd except for the time it kept dismounting /home
[09:43:23] <crutchy> maybe it needs viagractl
[09:43:29] * chromas prepares to goto hell
[09:43:42] <chromas> hehe, hell requires a goto
[09:43:45] <crutchy> with globals
[09:44:18] <crutchy> there was a guy in ##php that thinks my bot is insecure
[09:44:23] <crutchy> he's prolly right
[09:44:27] <chromas> was it poutine?
[09:44:31] <crutchy> lol no
[09:44:31] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[09:44:33] <chromas> poutine--
[09:44:33] <Bender> karma - poutine: -370
[09:44:38] * chromas joins up
[09:44:43] <crutchy> maybe it was poutine's brother
[09:45:41] <crutchy> if you want to start an argument in there, just say something like 'frameworks suck' :p
[09:45:53] <Konomi> pro tip
[09:46:01] <Konomi> avoid the coding channels in freenode
[09:46:05] <Konomi> they're full of arsehats
[09:46:14] <crutchy> that's why i joined them :D
[09:46:15] <Subsentient> Konomi: Ever been in #c?
[09:46:21] * Subsentient gurgles
[09:46:31] <Konomi> nah but I have some fun experiences from #perl and #python
[09:46:49] <Konomi> I did a single emote in python channel and one of the ops lost their shit
[09:47:06] <Konomi> followed it up with python project the guy I talked to said er we don't even run the #python channel
[09:47:10] <Konomi> go freenode policy go
[09:47:23] <Subsentient> lol
[09:47:23] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[09:47:34] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o aqu4] by juggler
[09:47:40] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick ciri
[09:47:40] <aqu4> Ok.
[09:47:41] -!- ciri was kicked from #Soylent by aqu4!~aqu4bot@universe2.us/ircbot/aqu4 [ciri]
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[09:47:44] * Subsentient hates ciri
[09:48:33] <Konomi> I generally ask my friends when I need coding help or stick with the docs
[09:48:47] * Subsentient sticks with the C standard and StackOverflow
[09:49:01] * Subsentient hates winsock
[09:49:10] * chromas loves ciri and gives it a soft poke in the back channel
[09:49:10] <Konomi> docs don't get upset and act like someone peed in their cheerio'
[09:49:11] <crutchy> Konomi, ew friends
[09:49:30] <crutchy> php.net++
[09:49:33] * Subsentient pees in ciri's cheerios
[09:49:51] <crutchy> ciri has cheerios!?
[09:50:04] <Subsentient> Yep but not sure he wants them anymore
[09:50:30] * crutchy prefers crunchy nut cornflakes anyway
[09:50:46] * Subsentient can't eat gluten
[09:51:03] * Subsentient likes rice crispies and corn flakes
[09:51:15] <chromas> one man's pee is another man's white trash beer
[09:51:26] * Subsentient also covers boiled white rice in coconut and sugar and eats that for breakfast
[09:51:35] <Subsentient> chromas: Ethanol-fueled knows that pretty well.
[09:51:54] <crutchy> we have piss in a green can here in straya
[09:52:03] <crutchy> people buy it by the slab
[09:52:05] <chromas> he just thinks he's drunk because nobody told him it's alcohol-free
[09:52:17] <Subsentient> chromas: hehe
[09:52:19] <Subsentient> lol
[09:52:21] <Subsentient> lol
[09:52:21] <ciri> rofl
[09:52:26] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick ciri
[09:52:26] <aqu4> Ok.
[09:52:26] <crutchy> maybe the pee was from a drunk guy
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[09:52:38] <crutchy> poor ciri
[09:52:47] * Subsentient kicks ciri in the nuts
[09:52:49] <crutchy> ciri++ # underappreciated
[09:52:49] <Bender> karma - ciri: -33
[09:52:51] <chromas> crutchy: now I know everyone in oz drinks Foster's, right?
[09:52:59] <crutchy> nah
[09:53:05] <crutchy> lots of beers here
[09:53:10] <chromas> the television tells me it's austrailian for queer
[09:53:22] <chromas> they use a "b" but I know what they mean
[09:53:22] <crutchy> victoria bitter is the green tin i referred to
[09:54:02] <Subsentient> ciri-- #irritating
[09:54:02] <Bender> karma - ciri: -34
[09:54:24] <crutchy> ciri is more fun in the batcave
[09:54:43] <Subsentient> $coin Should we stick ciri in the microwave?
[09:54:43] * aqu4 flips a Mexican peso on "Should we stick ciri in the microwave?"
[09:54:44] <aqu4> I got tails.
[09:54:54] <Subsentient> $coin Should we stick ciri in the oven?
[09:54:54] * aqu4 flips a special edition USA quarter on "Should we stick ciri in the oven?"
[09:54:55] <aqu4> I got tails.
[09:55:05] <Subsentient> $coin Should we throw ciri into a volcano?
[09:55:05] * aqu4 flips a bubblegum covered penny on "Should we throw ciri into a volcano?"
[09:55:06] <aqu4> I got heads.
[09:55:09] <chromas> aqu4 apparently enjoys ciri
[09:55:17] <chromas> everyone needs an archenemy right?
[09:55:22] <Subsentient> hehe
[09:55:28] <chromas> s/y/a/2
[09:55:28] <SedNotABot> <chromas> everyone needs an archenema right?
[09:55:32] <crutchy> maybe aqu4 and ciri enjoy cybering
[09:55:34] * Subsentient 's arch enemy is slowly reconciling with him
[09:56:04] <chromas> c++?
[09:56:19] <crutchy> maybe your enemy should try debian instead
[09:56:30] <aqu4> crutchy: EWW! I know Subsentient is deranged but he's alright because he's my author. ciri is deranged and irritating. I won't let him flip my bits.
[09:56:49] * crutchy gropes aqu4's bits
[09:57:40] * aqu4 tears out crutchy's intestines and plays jumprope with them
[09:57:44] * chromas takes a look at aqu4's author
[09:58:00] <chromas> oh, I misread. I thought it was "he's alright in my author"
[10:19:17] <chromas> ooh, I am totally rebellious, cutting pie with a cake trowl
[10:19:57] <crutchy> pretty soon you'll be making concrete slabs with that cake trowel
[10:21:45] <chromas> :( pie's runny. Crap. Still tastes awesome though
[10:26:07] <crutchy> what pie?
[10:26:16] <crutchy> some pies are best runny
[10:27:18] <chromas> apple
[10:27:31] <chromas> caramel apple, actually
[10:28:10] <crutchy> oh yum
[10:28:12] <chromas> I didn't put enough cream in the caramel to make it a sauce but the juice from the apples sure took care of it
[10:28:30] <crutchy> i'm eating 2 minute noodles with added curry, pepper and soy sauce
[10:28:53] <chromas> didn't you have a name for that?
[10:29:04] <crutchy> g'oop :D
[10:38:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Detecting Nanoscale Vibrations as Signature of Life - http://sylnt.us - good-vibrations
[11:08:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:08:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 944
[11:12:51] <chromas> ~weather
[11:12:52] <exec> Weather for Walla Walla, WA, USA - currently 21°F / -6°C, overcast, wind SW at 2 mph, humidity 65% - Tuesday clear (9°F-27°F / -13°C--3°C), Wednesday clear (16°F-25°F / -9°C--4°C), Thursday partly cloudy (16°F-28°F / -9°C--2°C), Friday clear (21°F-34°F / -6°C-1°C) - source: Google
[11:13:03] <chromas> Almost winter time
[11:14:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[11:14:47] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK, USA - currently 28°F / -2°C, clear, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 100% - Tuesday partly cloudy (21°F-32°F / -6°C-0°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (25°F-30°F / -4°C--1°C), Thursday chance of ice (30°F-32°F / -1°C-0°C), Friday chance of snow (34°F-36°F / 1°C-2°C) - source: Google
[11:15:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya and i'm off to a cabin for a fishing trip today
[11:15:19] <chromas> ooh
[11:15:23] <chromas> fishin' hole?
[11:15:41] <chromas> cut the ice with a 12-guage
[11:15:56] <chromas> do shotguns gauges run 'backward' like wire gauges?
[11:16:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, 20<12<10
[11:16:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> river though so no need
[11:17:05] <chromas> I'd ~define gauge but it would probably reference the porn actress
[11:17:31] * chromas goes to look up what a unit of gauge is
[11:17:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> one could only hope. flexible little chick.
[11:18:57] <chromas> oh
[11:18:58] <chromas> ~define gauge
[11:18:59] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3gauge: what sizes of plugs are called. not a verb. you can not gauge. you can stretch a piercing you can not gauge it. it would be like saying "I'm going to large" its what Sizes are referred...
[11:19:25] <chromas> Sadly, one of my nieces is into that shit
[11:21:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all good as long as the holes aren't really visible when there's nothing in them
[11:23:49] <chromas> that's not how stretching works
[11:24:46] <crutchy> i just dropped a shameless plug in a freenode channel
[11:25:53] <chromas> I just dropped a--oh wait, this isn't twitter
[11:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> can be if you register with bender
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[11:32:19] <idetuxs> mornin' bitches
[11:32:58] <idetuxs> what's up
[11:35:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, writing up a site update
[11:37:18] <Konomi> http://meta.ath0.com
[11:37:32] * Konomi pokes the bot
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[11:39:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03OTR FTW - WSOGMM
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[11:41:04] <Konomi> that delay
[11:47:37] <chromas> excess flood, eh
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[11:58:11] <crutchy> flooding is permitted up to a certain point. beyond that and the bilge pumps can't keep up
[11:58:44] <Konomi> irc sandbags
[11:58:50] <crutchy> then we just can't do it captain. we just dewnt hev the poower
[12:00:22] <crutchy> i think i was just chatting with myself from about 16 years ago :p
[12:00:49] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[12:00:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Time Warp - Rocky Horror Picture Show - YouTube
[12:00:53] <Konomi> ;p
[12:01:49] <crutchy> an indian version of myself from 16 years ago
[12:02:01] <Konomi> or maybe
[12:02:02] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[12:02:03] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Twilight Zone intro. - YouTube
[12:02:08] <crutchy> nice chap
[12:02:11] <crutchy> lol
[12:02:11] <ciri> lol damn!
[12:02:31] <crutchy> is it just me or is freenode very anti-bot?
[12:02:49] <crutchy> i guess its an old network that has been through many bot wars
[12:03:04] <Konomi> it's not anti bot but they like having them registered
[12:03:28] <chromas> Also depends on the channel
[12:04:34] <idetuxs> morning TheMightyBuzzard
[12:04:45] <idetuxs> got my internet down
[12:05:10] <Konomi> pinned down?
[12:05:23] <crutchy> we're still young and wild here :D
[12:05:38] <Konomi> lies everyone is like over 70
[12:05:49] <idetuxs> oh, it's just MY version of internet :P
[12:05:54] <idetuxs> hi crutchy , Konomi
[12:05:54] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI idetuxs
[12:06:21] <Konomi> ciri doing the most creepy greetings you can imagine
[12:06:24] <idetuxs> I don't like you ciri, please don't talk to me
[12:06:30] <idetuxs> hahahha
[12:07:17] <crutchy> hi idetuxs
[12:07:36] <crutchy> Konomi, no i'm only 16
[12:07:52] <Konomi> chromas is going to get a visit from the fbi then
[12:07:55] * Konomi hides
[12:07:57] <idetuxs> Poll of the day: is it normal that your goverment has all your biometric data on a national wide database?
[12:07:59] <Konomi> poor chromas
[12:08:06] <crutchy> i'm just stuck in a 32 year old body :/
[12:08:18] <Konomi> idetuxs: depends on your definition of normal
[12:08:40] <crutchy> yay communism!
[12:08:44] <idetuxs> yeah, i know where you are going. It's relative?
[12:08:51] <idetuxs> that's a great quote crutchy
[12:09:00] <Konomi> related media recall
[12:09:01] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[12:09:02] <idetuxs> mm if it's sane may be
[12:09:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03INTRODUCING NEALS - YouTube
[12:09:15] <idetuxs> it happens in the states?
[12:09:36] * chromas touches crutchy's body for uh...testing
[12:09:49] <crutchy> pretty soon we'll all be living in pink good with wires shoved up our arses
[12:09:51] <Konomi> I would feel that any collection of biometric data is not normal
[12:09:57] <crutchy> *goop
[12:10:09] <Konomi> whatever does it for you crutchy ;p
[12:10:25] * crutchy is slapped down hard
[12:10:55] <chromas> crutchy: hivemind
[12:11:01] <Konomi> everyone has had those dreams um haven't they?
[12:11:12] <chromas> zerg++
[12:11:12] <Bender> karma - zerg: 1
[12:11:18] <crutchy> as long as i get the woman in the red dress i'll be happy
[12:11:31] <Konomi> she's not real crutchy
[12:11:44] <crutchy> gimme the blue pill dammit
[12:11:45] <chromas> overmind++ #the pants command me
[12:11:45] <Bender> karma - overmind: 1
[12:12:02] <crutchy> do not ignore my veins!
[12:12:57] <Konomi> should I um grabe the hyperdermic needle then?
[12:13:00] <Konomi> grab*
[12:13:01] <crutchy> i wanna eat juicy steak with the woman in the red dress
[12:13:17] <crutchy> ~define grabe
[12:13:19] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3grabe: it means good great amazing. comes from the Tagalog language in the PI
[12:13:47] <crutchy> i'll take it then
[12:13:48] <chromas> crutchy: once you know, there's no reason to limit yourself to one dress
[12:13:51] * crutchy sticks out arm
[12:14:17] <crutchy> you mean there's an option to remove it?
[12:14:25] <crutchy> dressctl remove
[12:14:50] <crutchy> i choose zero dresses
[12:19:03] <Konomi> <insert crickets here>
[12:19:32] <chromas> Now we know what's under crutchy's dress
[12:19:48] <idetuxs> I love the girl in the red dress
[12:20:03] <crutchy> now now i'll only wear that if Konomi buys me a drink
[12:20:43] <Konomi> you know I normally don't like guys ;p
[12:20:57] <crutchy> persephone++
[12:20:57] <Bender> karma - persephone: 1
[12:21:15] <crutchy> beeeeewbs++
[12:21:15] <Bender> karma - beeeeewbs: 1
[12:21:16] <chromas> Konomi: slip him a mickey and roll 'im
[12:21:21] <Konomi> the internet might want it though
[12:28:43] <Konomi> the things I find
[12:28:44] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[12:28:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Kitchenpunk - Imgur
[12:28:57] <Konomi> eeepc too \o/
[12:29:20] <Konomi> hmm might be non asus
[12:31:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke. moderation update story's subbed.
[12:31:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org if you wanna cheat and read it before you can comment.
[12:31:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0304SN Submission by The Mighty Buzzard: Site News: Moderation Experiment Update
[12:33:24] <Konomi> \o/
[12:34:53] <Konomi> my mind is too scattered for an opinion yet
[12:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, mine was barely able to plop out those few paragraphs.
[12:35:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:35:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 945
[12:37:03] <idetuxs> great!
[12:38:53] <Konomi> microfiber clothe so micro it's sticking to itself
[12:40:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Inside the NSA's War on Internet Security - http://sylnt.us - government-approved-security-tools
[12:41:48] <Konomi> like how I am generally a few days ahead of articles ;p
[12:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we ain't exactly breaking news. more water cooler chat.
[12:45:15] <Konomi> didn't mean it in a bad way ;p
[12:45:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, me either. we is what we is.
[13:00:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Oi, juggs, you want to do the site update post for this weekend's update or would you rather PJ or I do it?
[13:00:57] <crutchy> get ethanol-fueled to do it :D
[13:01:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't seen him since i left him banned a whole day
[13:01:24] <crutchy> he was here last night i think
[13:01:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[13:01:32] <crutchy> last night my time
[13:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, looks like
[13:01:55] <crutchy> oh no he was here today while i was at the airport
[13:02:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll write up a script to let folks kick themselves this morning
[13:03:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'll put it off until i get back from the fishing trip. likely be 3 days.
[13:06:23] <crutchy> the batcave has one
[13:06:25] <crutchy> :p
[13:06:47] <crutchy> err. well it did until exec lost its gawd powahs
[13:06:57] <crutchy> dunno when that happened :p
[14:11:10] <crutchy> 1am. coffee has run out of punch. time for sleepies
[14:11:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sony Could Have Made A Lot More Money from The Interview - http://sylnt.us - business-logic
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[15:10:33] * Konomi releases the hounds
[15:19:10] <janrinok> hi KonomiNetbook - like the name change!
[15:19:47] <Konomi> erm that is my second computer ;p
[15:20:24] <janrinok> ooh - a 2 computer man!
[15:20:38] <Konomi> I'd never have boy laptops eww ;p
[15:21:20] <janrinok> lol
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[15:23:07] <Leebert> "boy laptops"?
[15:23:13] * Leebert wonders if his laptop is a boy
[15:23:23] <Konomi> duh just turn it upside down and check
[15:23:43] <janrinok> you have to look in the right place - if I have to tell you where you were not paying attention in biology class....
[15:23:56] <Leebert> I suppose it DOES have a female docking port "connector"...
[15:24:16] <Konomi> some laptops are tricky you never know!
[15:24:18] * Leebert tries to remember the exact rules about male and female connectors
[15:25:42] <Leebert> Actually, I think it is male, since even though the shroud fits into a slot on the laptop, the pins are on the laptop.
[15:26:18] * Konomi tries to ask the laptops instead
[15:27:27] <janrinok> *me wonders how he started this conversation....
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[15:27:38] <Konomi> ;p
[15:27:55] <janrinok> damn typo
[15:42:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - American Cities are Many Times Brighter than German Counterparts, Study Shows - http://sylnt.us - you-light-up-my-life
[16:11:14] <Konomi> I love how people are saying in the comments of spiegal article that it's just the nsa releasing false information even though snowden leaked them
[16:11:29] <Konomi> zomg reality must be disinformation from god better stop participating!
[16:11:32] <Konomi> >.<
[16:12:34] <Konomi> some of the comments we get -.-
[16:13:55] <nick> my thought on that story was generally.. doesn't surprise me, american cities are full of light and wasting energy to entice the public into their businesses
[16:14:59] <nick> on the new story, not the nsa one
[16:16:24] <nick> the nsa one is just another story of blah; nothing changes, everyone will continue to believe what they want to believe regardless of the source or if the information can be verified.
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[17:48:24] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat
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[19:40:06] <Ethanol-fueled> God fucking dammit, Firefox.
[19:40:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Can't I just use the goddamn internet?
[19:40:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Can't I just go to a webpage without seeing a "OH NO THIS CONNECTION IS UNTRUSTED WRITE A NOVEL TO APPROVE THE EXCEPTION!"
[19:41:01] <Ethanol-fueled> or "Application boundary enforcer?!" What the fuck? All I'm doing is using Wi-fi at a fucking hotel!
[19:41:24] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus fucking Christ.....FIrefox is shitted up so bad it's like Norton or McAffee AV now.
[19:44:54] <Leebert> Not only that, but the default home page has turned into a clone of the "personal appeal from Jimmy Wales" wikimedia foundation "please give us money to throw away on stupid-ass projects that just make things worse".
[19:45:50] <nick> i stopped reading the firefox shit at 'this awesome browser'
[19:46:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus, Leebert...who do good things turn so bad?
[19:46:51] * Ethanol-fueled is holed up in his temporary fortress in the Imperial Valley, CA
[19:47:02] <Ethanol-fueled> planning nefarious deeds :)
[19:47:18] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm trying to have an orgy arranged in my hotel room for new year's.
[19:47:22] <Leebert> Ethanol-fueled: because the world is full of stupid people.
[19:47:36] <Ethanol-fueled> what's up, N1?
[19:48:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Two Beds. Two extenders. Two bottles of lube. Twenty condoms.
[19:48:35] <Ethanol-fueled> ONE ORGY OF EXTRAORDINARY MAGNITUDE.
[19:49:19] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll probably be idling on here all day, but headin' out to the licka sto to procure mass booze. Be back in a bit...
[19:49:24] * Leebert expects to be going to bed tomorrow night at 10 PM after drinking some NyQuil to dull the pain of this blasted cold.
[19:49:25] * Ethanol-fueled has left [k-lined]
[19:49:43] <Leebert> so it sounds like Ethanol-fueled and I will average out to a normal person's new year's celebration.
[19:50:29] <Ethanol-fueled> leebert, you need to come to the imperial valley. It's clear as hell and like 80 degrees out.
[19:51:04] <Leebert> Eh, I feel like crap. Besides, Vegas on Friday. Need to get enough sleep so I can feel well this weekend.
[19:51:33] <Leebert> Though Vegas for me is more stuff like rock climbing in Red Rock Canyon.
[19:52:41] <nick> vegas for the buffet food!
[20:11:05] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm trying to hit up local women on OK Cupid for one-night stands.
[20:12:18] <Ethanol-fueled> I know for certain that I will get laid when I return to san diego, but it would be really nice if I could hustle up something down here for New Year's.
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[20:26:32] <nick> ah the ol' 'any hole is a goal' mentality
[20:30:33] <Ethanol-fueled> For now, nick. I'm working towards a relationship with a lady in SD I really dig, but things are moving pretty slowly despite the things we have in common.
[20:30:40] <Ethanol-fueled> I'
[20:31:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Fortunately I have a faithful standby there and am looking to hustle up an 'ole here.
[20:35:00] <nick> whatever floats your boat i guess
[20:35:21] <janrinok> good luck with the EF
[20:35:29] <janrinok> with that*
[20:39:02] <janrinok> time to go - bye all
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[20:54:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Dammit, I've got messages from 3 wimmins already and they're flaking out.
[20:54:59] <Ethanol-fueled> One prospect actually might work out. Plus 6-ish or so wimmins have yet to respond.
[20:55:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Come on, baby. Come on! Put one in the bag for papa!
[21:18:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Old washed-up single mothers, crack whores, and -- OOO! There's a sports bar conjoined to the hotel
[21:18:26] <Ethanol-fueled> I'ma gonna get me a lot lizard.
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[21:35:43] <SirFinkus> I'm watching intervention, this show is great
[21:36:52] <SirFinkus> they've got a bro who's a raging alcoholic and pill popper now
[21:37:12] <SirFinkus> scratching records also gets him "super stoked"
[21:38:55] <nick> eh
[22:01:35] <SirFinkus> oh boy, this next one looks like an even bigger trainwreck
[22:01:42] <SirFinkus> probably a lot lizard
[22:03:59] <SirFinkus> 9 years of meth
[22:04:12] <SirFinkus> IV
[22:04:59] <chromas> I think Ethanol-fueled was looking for one of those
[22:05:43] <SirFinkus> she's picking her skin off, looks like a gem
[22:06:27] <chromas> You don't really need your skin. If you did, why would it be coming off? It's made to eat, that's why
[22:07:53] * SirFinkus doesn't need his skin, he needs YOUR skin
[22:12:10] <Ethanol-fueled> It rubs the lotion on its skin,
[22:12:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Or else it gets the hose again.
[22:12:42] <SirFinkus> she's got a really white trash name too
[22:12:47] <SirFinkus> "Tiffany"
[22:12:52] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHA
[22:12:59] <Ethanol-fueled> I knew a white trash girl named tiffany.
[22:13:02] <nick> this all sounds very voyeuristic
[22:13:06] <Ethanol-fueled> She had zits on her armpits.
[22:13:47] <SirFinkus> ohh, here come the daddy issues
[22:14:06] <SirFinkus> abandoned by daddy
[22:14:15] <Ethanol-fueled> daddy abandonment girls are the worst.
[22:14:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Never, ever deal with one.
[22:14:35] <SirFinkus> oh shit, here mom started dating her soccer coach
[22:14:39] <SirFinkus> this just gets better and better
[22:14:43] <Ethanol-fueled> You will hear nonstop all those things she wanted to tell daddy when she projects daddy onto you.
[22:15:13] <Ethanol-fueled> daddy abandonment girls also date black guys. Or, if they are black, they date white guys.
[22:15:18] <Ethanol-fueled> or Latinos.
[22:15:31] <SirFinkus> oh of course
[22:15:33] <SirFinkus> molested too
[22:16:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't think I've dated a molested girl, but I've dated women who have been raped many times.
[22:16:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Sometimes violently.
[22:16:32] <Ethanol-fueled> And oddly enough, those were the most recklessly horny.
[22:16:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Raw-dogging in public and shit.
[22:17:02] * Ethanol-fueled chuckles
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[22:17:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh Amber. I might have called YOU up had you not been knocked-up so early.
[22:18:30] <SirFinkus> another white trash name
[22:18:40] <SirFinkus> not as bad as tiffany though
[22:19:06] <Ethanol-fueled> She was White Trash. Listened to country. Loved to fight. She was built like a tank.
[22:19:28] <SirFinkus> now she's doing whippets
[22:19:43] <Ethanol-fueled> HAhahahah, those are disgusting. Almost as bad as glue-sniffing.
[22:20:21] <SirFinkus> "I'm attracted to his intelligence" holy shit
[22:21:20] * nick wonders if this conversation is a new low for #Soylent
[22:21:35] <SirFinkus> naw, we've been lower
[22:22:09] <Ethanol-fueled> nick, come back in, oh, 6 hours after I'm posting links to GG Allin videos and crutchy and chromas are discussing butts and farts.
[22:22:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Actually we had a good discussion awhile back about turds. Pauley even joined in.
[22:22:48] <nick> i would say this conversation is lower than all of those
[22:23:32] <SirFinkus> I suppose it is subjective
[22:23:43] * Ethanol-fueled is reading his internet programming class syllabus
[22:23:58] <Ethanol-fueled> jquery, SQL commands using PHP, javascript....sounds fun.
[22:24:02] <Ethanol-fueled> computer science rocks.
[22:24:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm so glad I'm doing this instead of engineering.
[22:24:53] <SirFinkus> sounds like fun
[22:26:53] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll be doing some Apache too
[22:27:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Then I can join the team under a fake name.
[22:27:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Then out myself when I accidentally log in under Ethanol-fueled
[22:30:22] <Leebert> that's not internet programming. that's web application programming.
[22:30:35] <Leebert> internet programming is sockets and such.
[22:30:40] <Leebert> damn kids.
[22:31:04] <nick> get off my lawn
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[22:31:23] <Ethanol-fueled_> Goddamn Firefox crashing
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[22:31:46] <Ethanol-fueled_> Hey, do you all have any experience with Aptera 3 as a web development IDE?
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[22:43:28] <Ethanol-fueled> register drugfree hatimalaziz@gmail.com
[22:43:35] <Ethanol-fueled> welp, that went well.
[22:45:12] <SirFinkus> lol
[22:45:22] <SirFinkus> great job
[22:45:53] <Ethanol-fueled> I did register successfully
[22:46:05] <Ethanol-fueled> did you all see the bit from the sucessful register?
[22:46:28] <Ethanol-fueled> do you all see the messages from *NickServ* and -NickServ- ?
[22:46:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Now I can remove impostors who may want to sully my good name.
[22:47:18] * chromas queues up the email spambot
[22:47:29] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, that's my dummy e-mail address. Spam away.
[22:47:47] <Ethanol-fueled> I created it to troll a friend who I thought was Bi-curious.
[22:48:15] <Ethanol-fueled> It has a picture of an imaginary young arab man, Hatim Al-Aziz, who is interested in trying new things.
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[23:01:30] <SirFinkus> now "Aimee" is up
[23:01:58] <SirFinkus> opiates
[23:04:57] <Ethanol-fueled> I knew a girl named Aimee, a Mexican
[23:05:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Actually a good girl. Never did dope or nothin'
[23:19:21] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAH
[23:19:22] <Ethanol-fueled> YES!
[23:19:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Scored a date for seven or eight!
[23:19:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Single mom with 2 kids
[23:19:38] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHA
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[23:23:18] <SirFinkus> lot lizard?
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[23:48:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Modular Smartphone - Google's Project Ara - http://sylnt.us - I-sense-a-home-project-coming-on
[23:52:51] <Landon> ugh
[23:53:00] <Landon> email has been broken on my system most of the week
[23:53:13] <Landon> back up now, but antispam is offline :( dspam isn't in current ubuntu I guess?
[23:53:20] <Landon> anyone have any other lightweight spam filter suggestions
[23:55:00] <NightHawk> SpamAssassin?
[23:55:45] <Landon> is it lightweight? sounds pretty enterprise to me
[23:57:04] <NightHawk> it was a long time ago, but pretty sure I used it on an old system without much issue
[23:58:11] <NightHawk> was a low-volume mail server though to be fair
[23:58:31] <swiss> spamassassin is pretty lightweight
[23:58:39] <swiss> it's a baesean learning or something or other
[23:58:42] <swiss> works fairly well