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[01:15:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Flipping Memory Bits, Without Accessing Them - http://sylnt.us - flipping-hell
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[01:25:47] <SpallsHurgenson> wow, Thunderbolt's design is stupid. http://www.pcworld.com
[01:25:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Thunderbolt devices can infect MacBooks with persistent rootkits | PCWorld
[01:35:03] <Konomi> time to design a new interface
[01:35:08] <Konomi> who cares about security \o/
[01:35:54] <SpallsHurgenson> rs232 serial interface for the win!
[01:38:01] <crutchy> its same as pretty much anything new. hackers will 'repurpose' in ways the original designer could never have imagined
[01:38:44] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but a device designed for external connections that gives direct access to all of the RAM is pretty dumb. even USB isn't that bad.
[01:39:31] <SpallsHurgenson> (but bonus points to Apple for storing its cryptographic key in a writable ROM :)
[01:39:59] <crutchy> i thought ROM by definition wasn't writable
[01:40:46] <SpallsHurgenson> tell that to eeproms :)
[01:41:12] <crutchy> thats a bit different though
[01:41:33] <SpallsHurgenson> it's a form of read-only-memory.
[01:42:30] <crutchy> i would also be very surprised if thunderbolt was designed with dma in mind
[01:42:40] <crutchy> but dumber things have happened
[01:42:49] <SpallsHurgenson> IIRC, thunderbolt is basically PCI-E
[01:42:58] <crutchy> ah
[01:43:11] <SpallsHurgenson> so yeah, full access is basically the point :)
[01:43:25] <crutchy> i guess in that sense any computer could be infected by a dodgy graphics or lan card
[01:43:45] <crutchy> moral of story: buy from someone you trust
[01:44:09] <crutchy> (i guess most apple users would buy direct from apple, so that's one benefit of the walled garden thing)
[01:44:22] <SpallsHurgenson> except thunderbolt CABLES can be the source of the hijacking (tbolt cables have integrated circuits in 'em too)
[01:45:13] <crutchy> nod
[01:47:49] <crutchy> that would be a pretty slick interface then
[01:47:54] <SpallsHurgenson> plus, external connectors are designed to be connected to random external devices: your hdd, alice's camera, bob's flash drive
[01:48:54] <SpallsHurgenson> I can verify MY gear, but if I have to do it with every device that might be connected (and the cables they use), then it really negates the whole advantage of an external connector. Might as well just emal the date :)
[01:49:01] <SpallsHurgenson> grr. email the data.
[01:49:12] <crutchy> if they made a dma interface it would be nice to think they make some kind of virtualisation layer
[01:50:01] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm going to guess newer interfaces will have those. it will increase latency but improve security
[01:56:22] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, final spec was released in 2011. that's recent enough that they should have known better. it's not like USB, which was specced in '96, before the sheer evilness of the internet was well understood :)
[01:58:06] <crutchy> they'll prolly just blame it on the poor suicidal chinese workers
[02:04:19] <crutchy> http://www.cracked.com
[02:04:20] <Hedonismbot> ^ 035 Advanced Ancient Technologies That Shouldn't Be Possible | Cracked.com
[02:04:25] <SpallsHurgenson> urg... I think I'm getting sick. I feel nauseated and achey.
[02:04:43] <SpallsHurgenson> urgh, cracked.com lists... that''s not gonna help :)
[02:04:53] <crutchy> "the Romans discovered nanotechnology and used it to make a bitchin' pimp cup"
[02:05:16] <crutchy> sipping water prolly best
[02:06:15] <crutchy> heh. viking "Global Pillaging System"
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[02:07:47] <SpallsHurgenson> because all you need is a compass to precisely locate yourself, uh-huh
[02:09:17] <crutchy> "The achievements of ancient cultures tend to be woefully unappreciated -- we think of the people as loincloth-wearing savages, and when we're proven wrong by some impressive feat of engineering, we just make a bunch of documentaries about aliens."
[02:10:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it's physically possible, a properly motivated engineer can figure it out given enough time.
[02:13:26] <crutchy> "When a firefighter pointed out that cotton is incredibly flammable, the filmmakers behind The Wizard of Oz made a bold decision in the name of health and safety: they swapped out cotton for asbestos. The on-set OHS officers promptly died of irony poisoning."
[02:14:11] <crutchy> that was for the snow effect apparently
[02:15:10] <crutchy> "Judy Garland and pals frolicked through 27 asbestos blizzards before they got the footage they needed"
[02:16:04] <crutchy> lmao: http://i.crackedcdn.com
[02:16:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Devuan's Finding Its Voice - http://sylnt.us - it's-alive!
[02:16:44] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm too old too understand the Daft Punk reference... so get off my lawn :)
[02:17:06] <crutchy> too old? too young more like it
[02:17:18] <crutchy> daft punk is 70's man
[02:17:30] <crutchy> or 80's
[02:17:34] <crutchy> fuck i can't remember
[02:17:40] * crutchy is too old
[02:17:46] <SpallsHurgenson> 90s, actually :)
[02:18:32] <crutchy> pfft. i was still in the 80's during the 90's :p
[02:18:47] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm still in the 80s today :)
[02:19:48] * SpallsHurgenson listens to some DeBarge
[02:20:29] <crutchy> could have sworn there was a daft punk song that looked like it was from the disco era. but maybe it was just meant to look that way
[02:21:51] * SpallsHurgenson shakes a cane at crutchy, "How can a song LOOK like anything, you whippersnapper!"
[02:21:57] <chromas> Firewire also gives your devices dma
[02:22:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I told you, RS-232 for the win :)
[02:22:20] * chromas rocks SpallsHurgenson's chair
[02:22:24] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Around the World?
[02:24:25] <crutchy> dunno. i vaguely remember quite a few old daft punk songs that sounded disco'ey
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[02:27:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Guys, I have writer's block
[02:27:33] <Ethanol-fueled> What's a tech-related word I can use in place of the word "robotic" in a song?
[02:28:51] <Ethanol-fueled> The song title is currently "Tomorrow's Robotic Cloak", but I need something less corny.
[02:29:12] <Ethanol-fueled> I want to keep "tomorrow's" and "cloak" but "Robotic" has to go.
[02:29:48] <crutchy> vocoding?
[02:29:55] <Ethanol-fueled> no crutchy. Something more serious
[02:30:10] <crutchy> vadervoice :p
[02:30:15] <Ethanol-fueled> actually any word will do, provided it has the same number of syllables
[02:30:23] <Ethanol-fueled> related to NSA spying would be nice though.
[02:30:42] <Ethanol-fueled> since the song concept is about evasion of surveillance in the future.
[02:30:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Sounds good so far, man :)
[02:30:58] <crutchy> it has to include some kind of reference to grey goo then
[02:31:07] <Ethanol-fueled> dammit crutchy, you're no help.
[02:31:12] <crutchy> :p
[02:31:25] <Konomi> put in gay robots
[02:31:31] <crutchy> robot jews
[02:31:34] <Konomi> everything tech related needs gay robot
[02:31:39] <Konomi> right gay robot jews
[02:31:43] <Ethanol-fueled> konomi, just for you, I will make a whole entire song dedicated to gay robots.
[02:31:56] <crutchy> ooh a dedication
[02:32:02] <Ethanol-fueled> gay robot jews, in fact. But first I need to finiish "Tomorrow's __________ Cloak"
[02:32:04] <Konomi> make it for crutchy
[02:32:15] <JamesNZ> Ethanol-fueled: Cyber?
[02:32:22] <Ethanol-fueled> cyber is too corny and overused,.
[02:32:31] <JamesNZ> Hmm.
[02:32:37] <crutchy> i can see it skyrocketing up the charts... "gay robot jews" by "ethanol-fueled"
[02:32:41] * SpallsHurgenson 0_0s at Konomi in confusion
[02:32:45] <JamesNZ> XD
[02:32:48] <Konomi> mew?
[02:33:31] <SpallsHurgenson> just a rather unusual comment for you :)
[02:33:32] <crutchy> actually with a title like that it prolly would get a lot of attention... taking a poke at religion and homosexuality in three words
[02:33:53] <JamesNZ> And robots, of course.
[02:33:55] <crutchy> streisand effect
[02:33:56] <Konomi> SpallsHurgenson: it's for EF it seems apt imo ;p
[02:34:09] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, I'll do it man. Seriously. That sound like it would be a lot of fun.
[02:34:13] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I should have known :)
[02:34:18] <Ethanol-fueled> i could use a vocoder for robot voices
[02:34:31] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm gonna do it. In fact, I'm going to spend tomorrow doing it.
[02:34:34] <Konomi> we'll get to the satan rituals later right after we finish talking about freedums \o/
[02:35:01] <crutchy> on the internuts
[02:35:03] <Ethanol-fueled> and audio clips of bender saying "bite my shiny metal ass"
[02:35:12] <Ethanol-fueled> "okay!" Clank Clank chomp!
[02:35:17] <crutchy> don't forget to vocode some porno
[02:35:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah,
[02:35:24] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[02:35:26] * SpallsHurgenson is happily insulated from that sort of thing (although it does make some of the conversations on this #channel a bit more incoherent than usual :)
[02:35:28] <Ethanol-fueled> MAN THIS is gonna be awesome
[02:35:51] <Konomi> SpallsHurgenson: I've been diverting my attention elsewhere due to the coherent rating ;p
[02:36:20] <Ethanol-fueled> 7mb out of 11 MB upload so far for "Tomorrow's Robotic Cloak"
[02:36:41] <Ethanol-fueled> It's only a skeleton song. I need to record the bass, vocals, and some other embellishments.
[02:36:51] <Ethanol-fueled> But is quite listenable on its own as it is, a good song for coding etc.
[02:36:52] <Konomi> I need some better instagram accounts for my collection
[02:37:14] <crutchy> !grab Konomi
[02:37:14] <Bender> Added quote 316
[02:37:28] <Konomi> how is that even grab worthy?
[02:37:29] <SpallsHurgenson> does peopleofwallmart.com have an instagram account? :)
[02:37:29] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[02:38:30] <Ethanol-fueled> https://drive.google.com
[02:38:31] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Tomorrow's Robotic Cloak.mp3 - Google Drive
[02:38:38] <Ethanol-fueled> You're welcome, guys. Enjoy!
[02:38:44] <Konomi> I mean I rant about gay robots and you grab me collecting instagram accounts?
[02:38:45] <crutchy> Konomi, you have to pull your brain out through your nose, drop it in a gutter and kick it around for a bit
[02:38:46] <Konomi> really...
[02:39:22] <SpallsHurgenson> well, if it would help you could say the gay robots thing again and we'll grab that this time :)
[02:39:31] <crutchy> gay robots, gay monkey sex... meh
[02:39:35] <Konomi> oh no I am making sure you'll all miss that one \o/
[02:40:11] <SpallsHurgenson> we could just grab EVERYTHING you say, just to be sure we get the good ones :)
[02:40:13] <crutchy> isn't instagram where all the teens post their naked selfies?
[02:40:36] <crutchy> or is that snapchat
[02:40:41] <crutchy> fuck i'm getting old
[02:40:58] * SpallsHurgenson passes crutchy some lawn seed
[02:41:49] * crutchy graciously accepts and dreams of a huge forest wall
[02:42:31] <Ethanol-fueled> gimme feedback on the song, guys. I'm squealing like a little girl at how awesome that song's gonna be when I finish it.
[02:42:32] <Konomi> that's snapchat
[02:42:43] * Ethanol-fueled steps out to visit the fambly
[02:42:44] <SpallsHurgenson> see, Konomi knows :)
[02:42:44] <Konomi> instagram is basically tumblr but focusing more on pictures
[02:43:06] <Konomi> SpallsHurgenson: gotta keep my eye on my tamogotchis
[02:43:26] <SpallsHurgenson> is that what the kids call it these days?
[02:43:33] <Konomi> that's what I call people
[02:43:33] <Konomi> ;p
[02:45:43] <Konomi> I need something to mess with I get really bored ya know
[02:45:48] <SpallsHurgenson> !grab konomi
[02:45:48] <Bender> Added quote 317
[02:45:56] <Konomi> I didn't care about that one ;p
[02:46:25] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, that wasn't your best, but I was trigger happy :)
[02:47:46] <chromas> !grab SpallsHurgenson
[02:47:46] <Bender> Added quote 318
[02:47:55] <SpallsHurgenson> lol
[02:47:56] <ciri> heh
[02:47:57] <Konomi> grabception
[02:49:14] <crutchy> grabception is with tama and ciri in the batcave
[02:50:25] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: need moar lines around it. You can't just change one word; it's gotta have the right number of syllables and stuff
[02:50:36] <crutchy> ooh ciri has an rss feed
[02:50:38] <chromas> So we need to know what's around it
[02:50:44] <SpallsHurgenson> there is nothing redeeming about browsing through http://www.peopleofwalmart.com and yet I cannot stop myself
[02:50:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03People Of Walmart - Funny Pictures of People Shopping at Walmart : People Of Walmart
[02:50:47] <chromas> ciri++
[02:50:47] <Bender> karma - ciri: -29
[02:51:54] <crutchy> walmartians
[02:52:19] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: Hah, goodness me XD
[02:53:17] <SpallsHurgenson> spoke too soon: this is just awesome http://www.peopleofwalmart.com :)
[02:53:39] <crutchy> what would we do without ciri. its as soylent as xlefay's run-in with that bung switch
[02:55:25] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't know what we would do without ciri, but I'm sure willing to give it a try!
[02:57:03] <Konomi> http://fc05.deviantart.net
[02:57:21] <SpallsHurgenson> didn't you post that one already?
[02:58:12] <crutchy> its just that awesome
[02:58:17] <Konomi> I did not ;p
[02:58:21] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com
[02:58:55] <chromas> nacho++
[02:58:55] <Bender> karma - nacho: 1
[02:59:14] <chromas> I suppose nacho is Japanese for something
[02:59:17] <crutchy> feel sorry for the poor buggers with offices right next to that tube
[03:00:07] <chromas> they get the view of a higher level without the higher rent
[03:00:26] <SpallsHurgenson> "Mr Subway Engineer, very sorry but there is building in way!" "Screw that, I don't care; we're going through it!"
[03:00:30] <Konomi> if it's a mag lev they wouldn't hear shit
[03:00:46] <Konomi> shame
[03:00:47] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, it looks more like a bus ramp
[03:00:51] <crutchy> might still hear wind
[03:00:52] <Konomi> though it does look more insulated
[03:01:36] <SpallsHurgenson> might be more, "Uh, Mr Architect? You did notice that there is a highway there?" "Oh, hmmm... wait, I have an idea!"
[03:02:25] <crutchy> architects--
[03:02:25] <Bender> karma - architects: -2
[03:02:44] * SpallsHurgenson steals back his lawnseed from crutchy
[03:07:05] * Konomi tries to grown the lawnseed on SpallsHurgenson's carpet
[03:07:07] <Konomi> grow*
[03:07:39] <SpallsHurgenson> mmmm, fresh grass between the toes, that would be neat :)
[03:08:07] <crutchy> !blockgrab
[03:08:08] <Konomi> I actually thought about it a lot as a kid
[03:08:13] <Konomi> grass carpet!
[03:08:42] <SpallsHurgenson> might be a few disadvantages, but nothing oodles of money couldn't fix :)
[03:09:00] <crutchy> ~profile-add Konomi caretaker of SpallsHurgenson's carpet
[03:09:40] <Konomi> that sounds really wrong you know
[03:11:09] <crutchy> someone has to look after it
[03:11:28] <crutchy> carpet doesn't care for itself
[03:15:13] <Leebert> this new YouTube autoplay annoys me.
[03:15:37] <SpallsHurgenson> flashblock solves all :)
[03:15:40] <Leebert> It's getting (by design) nearly impossible to live on the web without accepting persistent cookies.
[03:16:07] <Leebert> If I'm going to YouTube, I probably WANT flash to work. :)
[03:16:42] <SpallsHurgenson> then load the page and click the play button... until you do that, the video won't start, just like you want :)
[03:17:05] <Leebert> No.
[03:17:17] <Leebert> I think you're missing what I'm complaining about.
[03:17:25] <Leebert> They've deployed a new "feature"
[03:17:40] <Leebert> Once your video is done playing, it will "autoplay" another "related" video.
[03:17:47] <Leebert> Because you TOTALLY want to watch another video, right?
[03:18:41] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... must be doing it only on some videos, I guess.
[03:18:43] <Leebert> You can disable it, but like other pointless crap on the web (*cough*MediaViewer*cough*) that only works if you store persistent cookies.
[03:18:43] <Konomi> apparently the afp is telling australians to stay "relaxed but alert"
[03:18:51] <Konomi> apparently they don't get the meaning of those two words
[03:18:55] <Leebert> Yeah, it's a random experiment.
[03:20:02] <SpallsHurgenson> Panicked, but calm! Sleepy, but energetic! Agressive, but reassuring!
[03:21:07] <chromas> Leebert: you probably accidentally a playlist instead of a video
[03:21:18] <chromas> I think there's an extension to nuke those
[03:21:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate when I accidentally
[03:21:34] <Konomi> SpallsHurgenson: that site is disturbing I thought it would be people dressed funny but um that hygiene...
[03:22:11] <SpallsHurgenson> Konomi: everytime I think of going to a Walmart for the first time, this site saves me from making that sort of mistake :)
[03:22:30] <SpallsHurgenson> fortunately, walmart never really caught on 'round these parts so avoiding it isn't much of a problem :)
[03:22:33] <Leebert> chromas: No, It really is something new they're doing.
[03:22:39] <Konomi> pull up those pants people and go to the toilet shesh x.x
[03:22:53] <Leebert> http://techcrunch.com
[03:22:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03YouTube Is Testing An Autoplay Feature That Streams Suggested Videos Automatically | TechCrunch
[03:22:58] <crutchy> !grab Konomi
[03:22:58] <Bender> Added quote 319
[03:23:30] <SpallsHurgenson> Konomi: not to go into too much details, but based on the pix there some of those people forgot the first and did the second. very disturbing
[03:23:31] <Konomi> walmart so full of crazy
[03:23:37] <crutchy> chromas we need a grope command dude
[03:23:39] <Konomi> yup...
[03:23:53] <crutchy> Konomi agrees :p
[03:24:12] <SpallsHurgenson> komomi soon kicks you ass if you keep that up, I think :)
[03:24:43] <crutchy> grabbing?
[03:24:50] <Konomi> http://www.peopleofwalmart.com
[03:24:51] <Konomi> wat
[03:25:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm afraid to click... and yet I cannot resist
[03:25:05] <chromas> he got your goat
[03:25:25] <SpallsHurgenson> aww, that's a cute one.
[03:25:26] <crutchy> ~get /goat
[03:25:27] <exec> error: var "goat" not found in path "/"
[03:25:36] <crutchy> aw
[03:28:39] <Konomi> http://www.peopleofwalmart.com
[03:28:46] <Konomi> "So apparently the story here is that this little guy walked right into the store and the police tazed him to death (after not being able to remove him I assume). So, I’d just like to go ahead and thank them for ruining the hopes and dreams of every little kid in that store who probably thought Rudolph just got murdered."
[03:30:36] * Konomi aborts viewing web site
[03:32:00] <SpallsHurgenson> I told you, no redeeming value... yet hard to resist
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[03:34:36] <crutchy> damn power flicker :/
[03:34:39] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[03:34:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Tony Abbott's first year as Prime Minister - YouTube
[03:34:43] <Konomi> <3 this guy lol
[03:34:59] <crutchy> hes annoying
[03:35:19] <crutchy> like most politicians :/
[03:35:43] <crutchy> tv--
[03:35:43] <Bender> karma - tv: -1
[03:36:01] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't get it; most be an ozzie thing :)
[03:36:37] <Konomi> yeah it's all poltical stuff SpallsHurgenson
[03:36:48] <JamesNZ> tv--
[03:36:48] <Bender> karma - tv: -2
[03:36:55] <Konomi> we've got a george bush wannabe for a priministor at the momenet basicallyu
[03:36:56] <crutchy> we like making fun of politicians, though im only assuming thats what the vid is
[03:37:18] <Konomi> fortunatly we're too small in invade a country
[03:37:30] <Konomi> but I'm sure he's thought about it
[03:37:55] <crutchy> i doubt he'd be able to get enough support
[03:37:58] <SpallsHurgenson> shouldn't be too hard to get Merka to do it for you; we don't need much of an excuse :)
[03:38:00] <chromas> don't invate
[03:38:04] <chromas> invade
[03:38:11] <chromas> just convince them to stop by your own country
[03:38:28] <chromas> then let the snakes and wallabies do the work
[03:39:16] <crutchy> we could have our own version of 'operation get behind the darkies'
[03:39:17] <SpallsHurgenson> just listening to the accent might work too :)
[03:41:13] <crutchy> apparently foreign chicks like aussie accents. nfi why
[03:41:31] <SpallsHurgenson> they think it's british :)
[03:41:42] <crutchy> maybe yeah
[03:44:36] <crutchy> if i could convince the australian greens party to not be economically retarded i might have voted for them. atm there's still nobody worth voting for :/
[03:45:13] <SpallsHurgenson> Vote of No Confidence until they get it right!
[03:45:20] <crutchy> pretty much
[03:45:34] <crutchy> they never will though
[03:45:53] <SpallsHurgenson> but at least you can stop them from accomplishing anything :)
[03:46:03] <SpallsHurgenson> remember, the government that governs best, governs least :)
[03:46:05] <crutchy> our debt is increasing
[03:46:39] <chromas> You don't want everyone else to have a better debt than you, do you?
[03:47:13] <crutchy> i'm one of those libertarian scumbags
[03:47:35] <chromas> You must build a biggerer and betterer debt than the other guys
[03:48:06] <crutchy> per capita we might just end up doing that
[03:48:13] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, talk to me when you got debt in the trillions :)
[03:50:01] <crutchy> i hop onto google news just to see if the djia has tanked
[03:50:19] <crutchy> one day it will
[03:50:49] <crutchy> unfortunately
[03:51:15] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, /total/ Australian gov't debt is just a little more than /one/ year's US federal budget deficit :)
[03:51:29] <SpallsHurgenson> amateurs! :) :)
[03:54:06] <crutchy> for 8% of the population of america we're racking it up though :p
[03:54:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, you guys don't even have ONE active aircraft carrier! how are you going to increase your debt without an overly large military?
[03:54:36] <crutchy> we just blow it on union cronyism
[03:54:57] <crutchy> at least you guys get *something* for your moneys
[03:55:21] <SpallsHurgenson> here, let me help: for the low-low cost of 18 trillion dollars, not only will we give you an aircraft carrier, but also the right to title of the country saddled with the largest amount of government debt :)
[03:55:21] <crutchy> even if most of it is cheap chinese junk
[03:55:29] <crutchy> lol
[03:55:31] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[03:55:46] <crutchy> yeah i don't envy american taxpayers much
[03:56:19] <crutchy> esp the ones that are still swimming around in their daddy's ballsacks
[03:56:24] <SpallsHurgenson> $18.001 trillion (that apparent rounding error at the end is my fee :)
[03:56:55] <crutchy> $1 billion fee. that's probably cheap for the US government
[03:57:22] <crutchy> they'll probably go with someone more expensive thinking they're missing out on something if they go with you
[03:57:28] <SpallsHurgenson> we all must make sacrifices for our country :) :)
[03:58:06] <SpallsHurgenson> so I won't be able to build my very own space-elevator; at least I'll have made the military-industrial complex slightly richer. Gawd blass Merka!
[04:03:42] <crutchy> might go play some more civ2
[04:07:11] <chromas> I've got civ 5; barely played it
[04:07:31] <chromas> Never got into turn-based strategy games
[04:37:53] * KonomiNetbook releases the squirrels
[04:48:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Death of Voice Mail - http://sylnt.us - Televox
[04:57:13] <crutchy> what drives an animal to want to dig its nose into its own shit?
[04:57:32] <crutchy> guinea pigs have just had a bath to clean the shit off their noses
[04:58:22] <crutchy> i can understand humans doing it, but we're a bunch of sick fucks
[05:02:04] <chromas> nah
[05:02:24] <chromas> we know it's gross; that's all our sickness dow for us
[05:02:28] <chromas> does
[05:02:37] <chromas> we know it's gross but still do it anyway
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[05:24:23] <SpallsHurgenson> animals smell their own poop to a) check their own digestive health and b) see if it is worth re-ingesting for extra nutrients. the human digestive system isn't strong enough for the latter, so our innate reaction is one of disgust
[05:24:31] <SpallsHurgenson> useless fact of the day. Now you know!
[05:26:52] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, and cats sniff to see if it is well-enough hidden to mask their scent from other predators, cats and prey (e.g., will any of the above be able to tell there is a cat in the vicinity? if yes, bury deeper :)
[05:28:25] <SpallsHurgenson> (or alternately, say "what the hell, this is MY house and the damn humans better get used to the smell", which is how my kitty rolls :)
[05:30:12] <chromas> http://kmkeen.com
[05:30:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Take It Or Leave It: A Most Unusual Holiday
[05:30:49] <SpallsHurgenson> given this conversation, I am very wary of following that link :)
[05:31:09] <chromas> it's totally off-topic
[05:31:11] <chromas> -1
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[05:32:27] <Konomi> kernel update complete
[05:36:12] <SpallsHurgenson> welcome to ubuntu 14.10 :)
[05:36:53] <Konomi> eww ;p
[05:38:45] <SpallsHurgenson> sure, it's bad but on the other hand you could have remained here and had a "fascinating" discussion about coprophilia, so I think you came out ahead :)
[05:39:46] <Konomi> I seen that on my netbook and I just didn't want to participate ;p
[05:40:35] <Konomi> kernel changelogs are far too long to read
[05:41:02] <SpallsHurgenson> just assume everything will work and click the install button :)
[05:48:28] <SirFinkus> I missed a coprophilia discussion?
[05:48:40] * SirFinkus scrolls up
[05:53:33] <SpallsHurgenson> so...um... Christmas, eh? Yeah, let's talk about that instead
[05:56:23] <chromas> af2eabb9deb3cbbc06a26d2051d8915f
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[05:56:36] <chromas> 164683759.1550317542.1370506972.1370506972.1370506972.1
[05:56:43] * chromas sets out xmas cookies
[05:57:23] <SirFinkus> I know what *I* want for christmas
[05:57:30] * SirFinkus salivates
[05:59:27] <chromas> https://www.change.org
[05:59:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Petition · Issue an executive order to neutralize the SOPA-like language in HR 4681 - Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2015 · Change.org
[05:59:40] <chromas> quick e'rybody! online petition
[06:17:18] <arti> maybe we can tweet about it, too?
[06:17:52] <SirFinkus> so we're misusing executive power to usurp congress's right to pass laws which violate the bill of rights?
[06:18:15] <arti> more like bill of wrongs
[06:18:28] <arti> g'day finkus
[06:18:38] <SirFinkus> sup arti
[06:18:54] <arti> lovin' that holiday traffic
[06:19:12] <SirFinkus> but steam sale
[06:19:48] <SirFinkus> only thing that makes christmas worthwhile
[06:21:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Oy. Timestamp check
[06:22:02] <Ethanol-fueled> what do you think of my track, arti?
[06:22:08] <arti> uh?
[06:22:17] <Ethanol-fueled> https://drive.google.com
[06:22:17] <Hedonismbot> * 03Tomorrow's Robotic Cloak.mp3 - Google Drive
[06:22:22] <arti> thanks sir, scoping out
[06:22:45] <Ethanol-fueled> It's only a skeleton track. It needs more parts.
[06:23:14] <arti> creative_endeavors++
[06:23:14] <Bender> karma - creative_endeavors: 1
[06:23:16] <Ethanol-fueled> so it gets kinda monotonous as it is. I should have it finished tomorrow. Along with the song about gay Jewish robots that crutchy and konomi requested.
[06:24:33] <arti> kinda reminds me of something 90s
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[06:24:51] <arti> just need one of those anime singing robot synths
[06:25:07] <Ethanol-fueled> hahaha, I'm not looking forward to singing it though
[06:25:17] <Ethanol-fueled> autotune++
[06:25:17] <Bender> karma - autotune: 1
[06:25:51] <arti> sounds like a badass transformer
[06:26:07] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, I'm going to do that for the gay Jewish robots song tomorrow
[06:26:30] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm going to get an audio clip of Starfox64 's Rob sayinig, "Great Fox will cover you..."
[06:26:35] <arti> been awhile since i've made any music
[06:26:38] <Ethanol-fueled> then I will add "with robotic semen"
[06:26:56] <arti> then process it into apple products
[06:27:09] <Ethanol-fueled> OH! Good idea arti, Apple must be mentioned in there somewhere too
[06:29:16] <arti> :D
[06:32:19] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, What's a word I can use in place of the word "Robotic?"
[06:33:54] <Ethanol-fueled> robotic sounds corny, but I want to keep teh words "Tomorrow's" and "cloak" in the title.
[06:33:56] <arti> Anamatronic, automaton, electro-mechanical blah
[06:34:44] <Ethanol-fueled> electronic
[06:34:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Okay, that words.
[06:34:56] <dx3bydt3> cybernetic
[06:34:57] <arti> that words good.
[06:34:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Tomorrow's Electronic Cloak
[06:35:02] <arti> cybernetic implies flesh, no
[06:35:15] <Ethanol-fueled> about avoiding surveillance in the dystopic future - that's the concept.
[06:38:01] <arti> just make sure that the robots don't use facebox.
[06:38:19] <arti> especially if they're going to photograph their dongles.
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[06:39:47] <crutchy> don't forget to mention fat pigeon porn somewhere
[06:39:56] <arti> pfft, it's all about the thin ones
[06:40:09] <arti> all this "meat on their bones" hogwash
[06:40:09] <crutchy> and goat fucking. what's a song without that
[06:40:18] <arti> baaaaaaad.
[06:40:28] <crutchy> especially one that has 'jew' in the title :p
[06:40:59] <arti> maybe he was typing jewels
[06:41:30] <crutchy> maybe also some robotic voice with 8.0.0.8.1.3.5
[06:41:37] <crutchy> hmm
[06:41:45] <crutchy> 8008135 would make a good song title
[06:41:54] <arti> okay tama
[06:42:09] <arti> http://8008135.tumblr.com
[06:42:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Shit Snort Blaspheme
[06:42:15] <crutchy> yo mama is so phat her cheeks kiss themselves
[06:42:25] <arti> that was a random guess
[06:42:37] <arti> codename: filthbot.
[06:45:07] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah
[06:46:09] * crutchy wonders if it should be Tomorrow's Electronic Coak
[06:46:49] <crutchy> beef_stew++
[06:46:49] <Bender> karma - beef_stew: 1
[06:49:18] <crutchy> beef came from family pasture too :D
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[06:53:39] <crutchy> ok. this is lame, but in the whole spirit of the thing bs... https://santatracker.google.com
[06:53:40] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Google Santa Tracker
[06:54:03] <arti> you don't believe?!?!
[06:59:11] <crutchy> wholly shitbags
[06:59:12] <crutchy> http://www.piercepioneer.com
[06:59:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Keurig Announces Massive Recall - Pioneer News
[06:59:24] <crutchy> ^ for coffee++ lovers
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[07:01:26] <Ethanol-fueled> that feel when they girl you're trying to get with is so awesome that you had to take down one of your songs because it had the word "Wiggers" in its title picture
[07:01:28] <Ethanol-fueled> :(
[07:01:46] <crutchy> http://www.thestreet.com
[07:01:47] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Strong GDP Growth Just Part of the Story: What We Really Learned About the U.S. Economy Today - TheStreet
[07:01:56] <crutchy> dollars starting to come home
[07:06:15] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, we're mere males dude. getting pussy whipped is what we do
[07:06:20] <arti> consumer spending is up, businesses not so much
[07:10:42] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, the problem is finding a woman who's worth it.
[07:10:50] <Ethanol-fueled> so much garbage to wade though.
[07:11:06] <crutchy> austrian economists forecast a massiv influx of dollars, which will trigger the hyperinflation. nobody knows when of course
[07:11:14] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, true
[07:11:28] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, regarding the money situation. Does that mean we're all gonna be fucked?
[07:11:37] <crutchy> i dunno. hope not
[07:11:50] <arti> putler wants a massive influx of dollars
[07:12:38] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, although I'm not totally sympathetic to putin, we're not exactly the most credible on the world stage either.
[07:12:49] <Ethanol-fueled> we went and done fucked errything up.
[07:13:05] <crutchy> putin's just looking after his own
[07:13:13] <crutchy> good quality in a leader
[07:13:13] <Ethanol-fueled> so a bunch of batshit insane Neocons and other Crypto-Christians could do God's work for him.
[07:13:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Bunch of old fucking fools are going to get us all killed.
[07:13:46] <arti> he wouldn't have to look after them so much if he weren't shooting down planes and taking over neighbors
[07:13:47] <crutchy> likely
[07:14:03] <crutchy> arti, i think he's just pushing back
[07:14:05] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, how do we know who shot down the plane?
[07:14:10] <crutchy> after 30 years the other way
[07:14:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Don't you think it's suspecious that 2 planes from the same airline were shot down?
[07:14:40] <crutchy> the CIA has been up russia's arse for years
[07:15:03] <Ethanol-fueled> maybe America wants out of the Middle East and is trying to instigate a 9/11 style attack on Russia?
[07:15:22] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy - like I said, a bunch of old goddamn crazy fools. Fucking Catholics, Mormons, and Jews.
[07:15:23] <arti> nah, just get hacked and claim national security
[07:15:29] <crutchy> putin knows the best ways to deal with it
[07:16:22] <arti> bite down and take it?
[07:16:23] <ciri> Oh yeah bite me arti
[07:16:27] * arti bites ciri
[07:16:31] <crutchy> if putin is batshit insane with his finger on thousands of nuke triggers, nobody gunna fuck with him
[07:16:58] <arti> you think the world would allow a power vacuum there?
[07:17:18] <crutchy> world wouldn't have a choice
[07:17:28] <crutchy> if putin wants something, who's gunna stop him?
[07:17:59] <arti> cheap oil.
[07:18:35] <crutchy> that might work for a little while, but i actually think cheap oil is more an attack on US shale companies
[07:19:14] <crutchy> russia has massive oil reserves that euro depends on. all it would have to do is turn the taps off and oil would skyrocket
[07:19:34] <arti> so reduce supply, and sell less?
[07:19:39] <arti> or sell more for cheaper
[07:19:47] <arti> either way they're boned with an export economy
[07:19:56] <crutchy> either. like i said if he's batshit crazy he might do anything
[07:20:54] <crutchy> he's already managed to get ukraine of all countries to pay up front for its oil
[07:21:40] <crutchy> he's got europe over a barrel. just waving his cock around trying to decide who to fuck next
[07:22:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Do ho hooooo!
[07:22:39] <swiss> i'm watchin christmas movies!
[07:22:50] <arti> christmas story?
[07:22:53] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, you should see Birdman.
[07:22:57] <swiss> no, the good ones
[07:23:09] <Ethanol-fueled> That was an awesome fucking refreshing movie. I hate hollywood bullshit but it was fresh as fuck
[07:23:24] <swiss> i'm watchin die hard
[07:23:29] <arti> "good"
[07:24:08] <arti> how've you been swiss?
[07:27:50] <swiss> pretty good
[07:27:54] <swiss> on die hard 2 now
[07:28:13] <arti> oh yes, the cg ejector seat
[07:28:23] <arti> ejection seat, w/e
[07:30:12] <arti> bleh it was green screen, i'll be quiet now
[07:30:22] <crutchy> moar civ2
[07:33:35] <Ethanol-fueled> nothing's more depressing than having to control how much alcohol I drink tonight :(
[07:34:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Gotta get up early and without a hangover so I can record more music.
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[07:35:43] <Subsentient> $tell Alberto I might do it, but I have a lot going on right now and barely enough time and energy to do what I already have to.
[07:35:43] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[07:58:11] <Konomi> dreamt I broke my glasses
[07:58:14] <Konomi> shitty dream
[08:00:09] <ar> Konomi: "My glasses! I can't see without my glasses!" or "My glasses! I can't be seen without my glasses!"?
[08:00:57] <ar> https://www.youtube.com
[08:00:57] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03My glasses, I can't see without my glasses - YouTube
[08:01:03] <Konomi> it was more like
[08:01:10] <Konomi> you broke my glasses i am going to kill you
[08:02:11] <ar> oh, so "I'm only going to say this once: Don.'t. Touch. My glasses."
[08:02:21] <Konomi> did not help I seemed to be on some sand bar
[08:03:34] <ar> something like this? http://en.wikipedia.org
[08:03:34] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Shoal
[08:04:36] <Konomi> weird examplesz
[08:05:11] <Konomi> can't find any pictures and it was bigger than normal
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[08:17:47] <chromas> !grab Konomi
[08:17:47] <Bender> Added quote 320
[08:18:32] <chromas> <tama> chocolate is not just for breakfast anymore
[08:18:48] <chromas> I always thought tama sounded like a stripper name but now I think she might be fat
[08:18:50] <Konomi> evil I was half asleep
[08:19:34] <chromas> Whoops. alsactl mute
[08:19:56] <crutchy> hehe chromas that thought crossed my mind too but i didn't want my name moved higher up the hit list than it already is
[08:20:43] <crutchy> ^the grab
[08:20:55] <chromas> Well I'm a farther reach to hit
[08:21:02] <crutchy> tama is full of number 2's
[08:21:10] <chromas> although I should probably watch my ports
[08:21:12] <Konomi> just working on a way to kill you in your dreams
[08:21:18] * chromas uninstalls bash just in case
[08:21:33] <arti> o.o
[08:21:35] <crutchy> oh my chromas dude you're in her dreams
[08:21:42] <crutchy> be afraid
[08:21:44] <chromas> oh noes!
[08:21:46] <arti> those dreams are referred to as nightmares
[08:21:52] <chromas> neigh
[08:22:04] <arti> you inward.
[08:22:11] <chromas> You're an inward
[08:22:13] <Konomi> ends with him catching fire everytime
[08:22:14] <Konomi> not sure why
[08:22:23] <arti> eek.
[08:22:32] <arti> "if he burns, he wasn't a witch"
[08:22:41] <crutchy> prolly something to do with the petrol your poured all over him and the matchbox in your hand
[08:22:42] <chromas> Yeah it does suck you don't get to see what happens next
[08:22:42] <Konomi> that's if he floaks
[08:22:53] <crutchy> floaking++
[08:22:53] <Bender> karma - floaking: 1
[08:23:02] <Konomi> I poured gas all over him what is this petrol you speak of
[08:23:03] <crutchy> ~define floaking
[08:23:05] <chromas> I wonder if I even have any bash scripts
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[08:23:22] <arti> lol t800
[08:23:22] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[08:23:25] <crutchy> chromas prolly has no shortage of gas around him
[08:23:26] * arti points above
[08:23:27] <crutchy> ]he has a dog
[08:23:36] <chromas> dogfartctl
[08:23:53] <arti> just means they're comfortable around you
[08:24:01] <crutchy> sharing is caring
[08:24:16] <arti> need that on one of those needle antidrug ads
[08:24:27] <chromas> if that's the case, I really care about you guys. Let me just share this bit of trivia here…
[08:24:39] <chromas> lol
[08:24:40] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[08:24:54] <chromas> also the recycle logo
[08:24:59] <crutchy> if a dog farts in the woods, can you smell it from a mile away?
[08:25:05] <chromas> reduce, reuse…
[08:25:08] <arti> should be a cute illustration of a dog tbh
[08:25:48] <crutchy> oh my!@
[08:26:04] <crutchy> don't type 'dogfart' as a google image search
[08:27:04] <arti> terrible
[08:27:07] <arti> .com
[08:27:10] <crutchy> http://ladyornot.com
[08:27:49] * arti has a strange craving for hot chocolate
[08:27:50] <arti> brb
[08:27:51] <ciri> when you coming back. miss ya already! ;) arti
[08:41:49] <Konomi> waking up sore sucks
[08:42:03] <Konomi> I'm like I feel sore I better lay dow.. wait I got sore from napping fuuuuuu
[08:42:07] <Konomi> ._.
[08:42:35] <crutchy> thas no good
[08:42:41] <crutchy> milo++
[08:42:41] <Bender> karma - milo: 3
[08:43:02] <Konomi> better spoon it into your mouth raw
[08:43:09] <crutchy> yumm
[08:43:35] <crutchy> chromas, i'm implementing a new alias definition parameter... couldn't help myself :p
[08:43:45] <crutchy> bucket locks
[08:44:07] <Konomi> i_can_haz_bukit() { }
[08:44:29] <crutchy> everything will go pear shaped
[08:44:33] <ar> Konomi: i can provide cheesecake and water
[08:44:46] <crutchy> mmm cheesecake
[08:44:47] <chromas> cheesecake++
[08:44:48] <Bender> karma - cheesecake: 1
[08:48:46] * chromas puts an alias up exec
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[08:51:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Selective Reporting Bias of Harm Outcomes within Studies - http://sylnt.us - show-your-work
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[10:53:19] <swiss> curious, i've been debatin this with a friend for a while now - what's everyone's opinion about sony agreeing to release the movie now?
[10:53:43] <crutchy> i'm not gunna see it anyway. it sounds retarded
[10:53:46] <swiss> My personal opinion - they just took a hostage situation and said "Shoot them, I dare you" to them.
[10:54:03] <crutchy> people will see it at their own risk i guess
[10:54:03] <swiss> considering the bredth of the dump about their employees
[10:54:23] <swiss> oh, i don't mean the movie theater bomb threats, i mean the fact they threatened to dump sony data
[10:54:38] <swiss> i forget what the last estimate was of the amount of data stolen
[10:54:41] <swiss> but it was hugeee
[10:54:54] <crutchy> if they have sony data to dump, they will regardless of what sony does
[10:55:01] <crutchy> they won't be able to just hold onto it forever
[10:55:20] <crutchy> leaked data will leak
[10:55:50] <swiss> that's partially true, but as long as they're holding it ransom, there's more of a chance of catching them and nabbing the data pre-leak
[10:56:29] <swiss> and as long as the movie hasn't shown and the data wasn't leaked, they have a reason to not show the movie... kinda a stalemate
[10:56:42] <crutchy> i doubt the authorities will be able to destroy it. the best protection that any leaker can make for themselves is to broaden the target... make lots of copies
[10:57:36] <swiss> yes, but this is an activist group against the movie, but not necessarily against sony as a whole
[10:58:16] <crutchy> they'll release it when there's no longer any reason for them to hold onto it
[10:58:29] <swiss> 47,000 SSNs is the current estimate I believe
[10:58:56] <swiss> right, but as long as the movie hasn't shown, they have reason to hold onto it... the hope (imo) would be to catch them as they get sloppy on future attacks before they release
[10:58:58] <crutchy> SSN?
[10:59:06] <swiss> social security numbers
[11:00:07] <crutchy> i think even if sony didn't release the movie the activists would merely make other threats. the data has no value to them except as a bargaining chip
[11:00:20] <swiss> right - but it's their best one
[11:02:03] <crutchy> the problem is the activists made demands that if met would set a precedent which would make being a blackhat much more lucrative. if sony capitulated it would open the floodgates for more attacks
[11:02:35] <crutchy> sony found themselves in a damned if they do, damned if they dont situation
[11:02:42] <swiss> it's true - but is a prescendent worth risking 47,000 lives (because identity theft CAN ruin your life) for?
[11:02:47] <crutchy> also, obama's speech didn't help
[11:03:05] <swiss> I think that was a horrible thing for him to do - oppose the company's decision in a state like this.
[11:03:15] <crutchy> those lives are already at risk. the hackers already have that data and there's nothing sony can do about it
[11:03:28] <swiss> right - hostage situation
[11:03:49] <crutchy> not really. the hostage takers have already got away with it
[11:04:04] <swiss> but the hostages haven't been killed or set free yet at that point
[11:04:22] <swiss> as in, the data wasn't deleted, or released
[11:04:53] <KonomiNetbook> you don't have to feel bad if the execute the data though
[11:05:43] <swiss> that's releasing it, and that's bad
[11:05:46] <crutchy> i still think regardless of what sony does, the data will be released. the attackers probably don't give a shit if thousands of US SSNs are leaked. i doubt they're even US citizens
[11:06:03] <swiss> they care if it's what would be keeping their demands met
[11:06:19] <swiss> knowing that if they give up their bargaining chip, their demands would be ignored
[11:06:54] <crutchy> their demands were a bit abstract. not like they were asking for $1 million of unmarked bills in a red duffel bag to be dropped in a bin at some intersection somewhere
[11:07:18] <swiss> right, they weren't at first
[11:07:30] <swiss> i think they pivoted when they saw a chance to impersonate NK
[11:07:37] <crutchy> i think their goal was fear
[11:07:42] <swiss> but get them to pivot too much and you might get them to slip up
[11:07:54] <crutchy> maybe
[11:08:03] <crutchy> but what happens when one of them is caught?
[11:08:08] <crutchy> the data will be leaked
[11:08:33] <swiss> depends on if they can orchestrate the takedown
[11:09:15] <swiss> if the data gets leaked tomorrow... worst christmas gift ever to those employees
[11:09:21] <crutchy> true. and its not that i wouldn't want them to. i just doubt it would work
[11:09:33] <swiss> it would buy time imo
[11:09:41] <crutchy> nod
[11:09:49] <crutchy> need to change a lot of SSNs
[11:10:11] <swiss> that doesn't happen very easily...
[11:10:13] <swiss> and CCs
[11:10:17] <crutchy> i like working for small companies
[11:10:18] <swiss> and passwords
[11:10:37] <swiss> i work for a giant corp, but if we get taken down, have fun with the new depression :P
[11:11:02] <crutchy> it'll happen. unfortunately
[11:11:07] <swiss> wooo financial institutions
[11:11:08] <crutchy> just a question of when
[11:11:29] <swiss> not necessarily though
[11:11:44] <swiss> our real goal is to have a cyber attack never be the reason we fail as a company
[11:12:03] <crutchy> that's a more achievable goal
[11:12:11] <swiss> my job isn't to keep the company afloat as far as financial institution stuff goes
[11:12:32] <crutchy> nod. prolly a good thing :p
[11:12:37] <swiss> yep :P
[11:13:04] <swiss> that's why most security jobs aren't that bad - you just have to be doing better with security than beancounters are with dollars
[11:13:05] <crutchy> the spike in gdp caught my interest today
[11:13:25] <swiss> didn't notice
[11:13:49] <swiss> i've been recovering from an incident
[11:14:01] <swiss> incident is code for "we almost got fucked up"
[11:14:09] <crutchy> one of the signs that the doomsayers talk about is an increase in domestic (US) demand before hyperinflation is expected (all the exported dollars coming home to roost)
[11:14:16] <crutchy> oh?
[11:14:19] <crutchy> that sounds bad
[11:14:26] <swiss> they're bad, but they're not "bad"
[11:14:48] <swiss> the one you have to worry about is a breach
[11:14:54] <swiss> incident means we caught it early on
[11:15:00] <crutchy> ah
[11:15:06] <swiss> and that we have some security gaps to close, asap
[11:15:12] <crutchy> so you earned your pay :)
[11:15:16] <swiss> basically
[11:15:33] <swiss> i had 3 12 hour days in a row, i spent most of them arguing on the phone
[11:15:44] <crutchy> ergh. phones--
[11:15:53] <swiss> yeah, i avoid it
[11:16:10] <swiss> mine was "Yeah, you know your change freeze? That doesn't matter. Do what I say"
[11:16:21] <crutchy> lol
[11:16:22] <ciri> HEY! don't laugh at me
[11:16:43] <crutchy> they weren't waterfall guys were they?
[11:17:02] <swiss> i think we've moved to another model
[11:17:05] <crutchy> they might not be able to recover from a change like that
[11:17:08] <crutchy> ah
[11:17:10] <swiss> agile
[11:17:22] <swiss> oh, this isn't an optional change, or anything
[11:17:24] <crutchy> good
[11:17:41] <swiss> i learn how their system works, i tell them what to put in, they fight back, i threaten to call the CSO, they back down
[11:18:01] <crutchy> security is pretty critical in that line of work
[11:18:09] <swiss> yeah
[11:18:10] <crutchy> easter eggs be damned!
[11:18:25] <swiss> i managed to mostly not keep people after hours
[11:18:33] <swiss> i try to be a cool dude
[11:18:46] <swiss> i'm off to bed now though
[11:18:48] <swiss> ~time
[11:18:54] <swiss> .time
[11:18:55] <swiss> :(
[11:18:58] <swiss> it's 3:19 here
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[11:19:11] <swiss> ~time
[11:19:12] <exec> Wednesday, 24 December 2014 @ 3:19 am PST - Los Angeles, CA, USA
[11:19:17] <swiss> yeap
[11:19:17] <crutchy> shit dude you should be sheepy
[11:19:19] <ciri> i don't see any shit
[11:19:37] <crutchy> almost xmas here
[11:19:40] <crutchy> ~time
[11:19:41] <exec> Wednesday, 24 December 2014 @ 10:19 pm GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[11:19:45] <swiss> yeah, that's why i gotta go to bed. I have a call to ditch at 7.
[11:20:11] <crutchy> might go play some civ2. cya dude. if i don't catch ya, have a safe and happy one
[11:38:14] <Konomi> Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:38:16] <Konomi> \o/
[11:38:33] <Konomi> hmm that date is so recent
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[13:08:07] <crutchy> merry xmas folks. just finished playing santa here. catch yas on the flipside
[13:10:52] <Konomi> christmas in roo land
[14:03:37] <Blackmoore> mornin
[14:03:42] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:03:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 935
[14:04:03] <Blackmoore> couple hours of work before xmas eve here
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[15:26:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Neglected Server Provided Entry for JPMorgan Hackers - http://sylnt.us - 'probably-not-worth-the-effort'-someone-once-thought
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[16:03:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;pissoff
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[16:13:41] <mechanicjay> Who else is stuck working today?
[16:13:53] <janrinok> Hi mechanicjay - not me!
[16:13:53] <ciri> hi janrinok
[16:14:05] <mechanicjay> Hey janrinok, nice!
[16:14:24] <janrinok> Season's greetings and all that....
[16:14:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> well technically i am i suppose but working from home and not having anything that needs doing...
[16:14:40] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: hello to you too
[16:14:48] <mechanicjay> At least they're letting us out early. Combined with lunch at the Brew Pub down the street, probably won't be too bad of a day.
[16:15:09] <janrinok> sounds like a perfect working day
[16:15:39] <mechanicjay> Just have to get through a major service launch in an hour, hope no tickets come it, and push some deadlines back to mid-jan. :)
[16:16:13] <mechanicjay> ...and of course get my comment count up on the site.
[16:16:30] <mechanicjay> ...from the looks of things, I should get my submission count up too
[16:18:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> playing with the bot today myself. trying to make it unicode friendly on staff when it already was on my box.
[16:20:58] <Blackmoore> i'm working
[16:21:21] <mechanicjay> Blackmoore: my condolences
[16:21:30] <Blackmoore> *shruf*
[16:21:35] <Blackmoore> *shrug*
[16:23:55] <Blackmoore> I'm getting paid plus holiday pay
[16:24:06] <Blackmoore> i need the cash
[16:26:42] <Leebert> I'm working, but I wouldn't say I'm *stuck* working.
[16:27:07] <Leebert> To be honest, I consider days like today, the day after Thanksgiving, etc. to be some of the best days to go to work.
[16:27:26] <Blackmoore> yeah - quiet.
[16:27:28] <Leebert> The commute is a relative breeze, and the office is quiet.
[16:27:35] <Blackmoore> nods
[16:28:13] <Leebert> And the vacation day I don't take today can be taken another time when the weather is more conducive to being outside. So it's like two for the price of one.
[16:28:24] <mechanicjay> Leebert: Fair enough, I drove in today, took me 25 minutes. Usually 1:10 on the bus.
[16:29:27] <Leebert> Well, I said "relative" breeze... in my case, it was still upwards of two hours. But my normal one-way commute is about 2.5 hours.
[16:30:10] <Blackmoore> ick. i thought my 40 min one way (no traffic) was a poor commute
[16:30:12] <Leebert> Oh, and since I'm single, coming in lets the co-workers with families have the ability to go and spend time with their rugrats.
[16:31:00] <Blackmoore> i miss my kids. only one of them is young enough to care about xmas, and he's 6 hours away
[16:31:45] <Blackmoore> I'll see the older ones friday. but still not the same
[16:32:55] <janrinok> its late afternoon / early evening here - everybody is leaving work and arriving home
[16:34:01] <janrinok> Unfortunately the only precipitation is in the form of rain - not at all a seasonal picture!
[16:34:13] <Leebert> Mr. Obama has released Federal workers 4 hours early, so the few that didn't take the day off are mostly gone (or decided to "telework" this morning...)
[16:34:33] <mechanicjay> early morning here, before most folks are in. Rain is seasonally appropriate for my locale.
[16:34:54] <janrinok> I hope that your umbrella is suitably decorated....
[16:36:31] <janrinok> I'm spacing stories out for release tomorrow - I don't suppose that there will be many checking the site for new stories throughout the day.
[16:36:50] <janrinok> ...but you never can tell.
[16:36:59] * Konomi plays the jaws music
[16:37:05] <janrinok> ;lol
[16:37:26] <Blackmoore> yeah, it will be a good day for us to stretch out what we have
[16:37:27] <Konomi> that movie really isn't that scary when you live inland
[16:37:58] <janrinok> it depends on how deep the water is in your bath tub.
[16:38:11] <Konomi> I take showers so
[16:38:14] <Blackmoore> I'll see if i can scrounge up some more decent stuff considing what left in the queue
[16:38:23] <Konomi> depends how small the the holes in the shower head are?
[16:38:36] <Blackmoore> Konomi: you dont have landsharks?
[16:38:55] <Konomi> only the ones that walk on two legs
[16:39:01] <janrinok> Ah, the old shower shark - they're supposed to be the worst kind. Vicious with a prediliction to soap...
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[16:39:52] <janrinok> Blackmoore: it's a sorry looking queue that's for sure
[16:40:26] <janrinok> 4 x gewg_, 2 x Hugh Pickens and a note about spam from martyb
[16:42:35] <janrinok> hi SirFinkus
[16:42:36] <ciri> hi janrinok
[16:42:42] <janrinok> shut up ciri
[16:59:45] <SirFinkus> sup janrinok
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[17:08:01] <janrinok> sry SirFinkus - I was wasting time on imgur.com! Didn't see your name pop up! I'm good, and you?
[17:12:49] <SirFinkus> haha, same deal here, I keep forgetting to check irc
[17:13:24] <SirFinkus> don't know why it didn't highlight me
[17:19:29] <SirFinkus> I'm watching a terrible movie called "Stray Cat Rock - Machine Animal"
[18:28:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Santa Flies, Fits Down Chimneys, and Does Stuff You Can't Do - http://sylnt.us - magic-mushrooms
[19:01:18] <Blackmoore> ok - have a good holiday.
[19:01:24] <Blackmoore> i am out
[19:01:40] <Blackmoore> janrinok: i left a few presents in the queue
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[19:52:23] <arti> :D
[19:52:26] * arti pets james
[19:52:46] <arti> i do this for good luck, i am about to brave the stores
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[19:55:24] <SirFinkus> you poor bastard
[20:07:58] * JamesNZ purrs
[20:39:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was a good nap i just had
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[20:55:20] <JamesNZ> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[20:55:21] * exec diabolically flings a cheap plastic cup of Debian at TheMightyBuzzard
[20:56:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> heya heya. debating on another nap since that last one was so good
[21:01:23] <arti> lol
[21:01:23] <ciri> it's not that funny :)
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[21:30:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Diagnostic Platform can Detect over 1,000 Pathogens in Just 6 Hours - http://sylnt.us - know-your-enemy
[21:37:10] <SirFinkus> The Client Portal will only work with the Internet Explorer browser and is not compatible with Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera, or Apple Safari browsers.
[21:37:13] <SirFinkus> how is this legal?
[21:40:35] <SirFinkus> these are the culprits, take note everyone http://www.madcapsoftware.com
[21:40:36] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03MadCap Software - Technical Communication and Content Development Software
[21:41:46] <SirFinkus> bbl, I guess I need to REBOOT MY FUCKING COMPUTER to use this website
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[22:42:25] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:42:25] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 203
[22:48:20] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[22:48:20] <Bender> karma - tea: 336
[22:48:21] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[22:48:21] <Bender> karma - tea: 337
[22:48:29] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Merry Christmas :)
[22:50:56] <crutchy> same to you bloke! :D
[22:51:46] <chromas> see you guys even have xmas at the same time. Your countries are clearly the same :)
[22:52:10] <crutchy> lol. nah james is likely pigging out already. i still gotta wait a couple of hours :p
[22:52:25] <crutchy> ~time JamesNZ
[22:52:27] <exec> Thursday, 25 December 2014 @ 11:52 am GMT+13 - Wellington, New Zealand 12:37 PM Chatham Island (GMT+13:45)
[22:52:47] <chromas> xmas in the future
[22:52:48] <JamesNZ> :P
[22:52:48] <crutchy> that's confusement :/
[22:53:09] <crutchy> wtf is GMT+13:45 for?
[22:53:19] <JamesNZ> timezones--
[22:53:19] <Bender> karma - timezones: -4
[22:53:26] <chromas> fractional time zone
[22:54:35] <crutchy> maybe that island is in the wiggly part of the international date line or something... where time and space get all mixed up in the tonga trench somewhere
[22:55:08] <crutchy> ~submit http://www.wallstreethedge.com
[22:55:12] <exec> error: description meta content not found or empty
[22:56:19] <crutchy> that site failed web design 101
[22:56:24] <paulej72> Ho Ho Ho
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[22:56:52] <crutchy> hey paulej72, SirFinkus
[22:57:03] <SirFinkus> sup crutchy
[22:57:09] <crutchy> need xmas'y scripts in here today :p
[22:57:18] <crutchy> ciri: activate xmas mode
[22:57:30] <crutchy> err
[22:57:41] <crutchy> ciri: initialize rudolph's red nose
[22:57:46] <crutchy> hmm
[22:57:52] <crutchy> santactl start sleigh
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[22:58:12] <arti> :|
[22:58:40] <crutchy> i gotta go soon. torture by overeating awaits
[22:58:57] * SirFinkus puts a gun in his mouth
[22:59:13] <crutchy> oh
[23:00:15] * SirFinkus remembers the steam sale isn't over yet and takes the gun out
[23:01:07] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Enjoy :D
[23:01:22] * JamesNZ is looking forward to a nice roast chicken
[23:10:40] <paulej72> sorry i was peeling eggs
[23:11:45] * paulej72 making pickeled eggs with my mom
[23:12:33] * paulej72 having ham tommorrow
[23:16:51] <SirFinkus> the interview is predictably bad, I'll save everybody's time
[23:20:55] <JamesNZ> The film, you mean?
[23:21:27] <SirFinkus> yes
[23:21:36] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[23:28:39] <JamesNZ> Maybe it's a good thing it wasn't released then :P
[23:29:06] <SirFinkus> it was though
[23:29:18] <JamesNZ> Oh, I heard otherwise.
[23:32:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft and Apple Backed Rockstar Consortium's Lawsuit Campaign Against Android is Over - http://sylnt.us - so-what-do-they-plan-to-do-next?
[23:32:16] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[23:32:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> double christmas nap, outstandin
[23:37:42] <paulej72> hola
[23:38:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup yo
[23:38:24] <paulej72> nottin
[23:38:36] * paulej72 been veging
[23:38:59] * paulej72 neen to wrap my nephews gofts tomorrow
[23:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto, half hour or so until dinner time so i'm watchin some trek
[23:39:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> not very chritsmasy i know but i already watched die hard one and two
[23:39:50] <paulej72> all of them
[23:40:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[23:40:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> pondering watching empire strikes back just for the hoth scenes
[23:40:54] <paulej72> cowboys and aliens was on the other day ad i watched it again
[23:40:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> no snow here this year.
[23:41:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i can't bring myself to. strikes me as too silly a premise.
[23:41:24] <paulej72> we got rain and abnormally high temps
[23:42:37] <paulej72> it is not that bad a movie. i have seen worse. i think the premis of gravity is much more intolerable
[23:42:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> just clouds n warm here.
[23:43:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, didn't see that one either for the same reason
[23:43:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> getting downright picky in my old age
[23:45:07] <paulej72> at least with aliens it is easy to see that tech will be plausable, but having two earth space stations in the same orbit close enough that an astronaut in a mmu can get to is just right out wrong
[23:45:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> no doubt, their gravity on each other would affect their orbits.
[23:46:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> whatcha reckon for the rollout, jan 1 or put it off a couple days for the hangover to wear off?
[23:47:05] <paulej72> plus nasa get their panties in a bunch when just some debrits get with in a few tens of km to the iss
[23:47:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[23:47:22] <paulej72> probably
[23:47:31] <paulej72> weekend
[23:48:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, think ima go cook me a steak. have a merry ho ho.
[23:48:26] <chromas> hoes++
[23:48:26] <Bender> karma - hoes: 1
[23:49:30] <paulej72> there is a joke i bearly remeber about that