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[00:00:33] <chromas> I'd email you a can of winter except we ain't got none. I think winter's on holiday
[00:01:29] <Subsentient> ~weather
[00:01:30] <exec> Weather for Phoenix, AZ - currently 60°F / 16°C, overcast, humidity 61% - Sunday partly cloudy (46°F-66°F / 8°C-19°C), Monday partly cloudy (46°F-68°F / 8°C-20°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (41°F-70°F / 5°C-21°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (43°F-70°F / 6°C-21°C) - source: Google
[00:02:58] <chromas> you're also lacking winter weather
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[00:17:49] * JamesNZ is plenty happy to be without winter weather
[00:18:09] <chromas> ♪I'm dreaming of a cold xmas, just like the one we had last year♫
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[00:35:03] <Ethanol-fueled> got a date tonight.
[00:35:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Wish me luck. This lady is awesome, but I think she likes well-endowed men.
[00:35:40] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm trying to figure out a creative way to let her know that I have extenders without sounding like a creep.
[00:36:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Do you guys recommend that I attempt that if you knew that I was going to be smooth about it? It's our first date.
[00:38:01] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[00:38:02] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03swedish made penis enlarger (austin powers) - YouTube
[00:38:58] <Ethanol-fueled> my plan is, to bring up exchanging dating horror-stories because that's always a good conversation-starter, then wait until a couple stories are exchanged before telling her about that time a lady asked me if I was well-endowed.
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[00:39:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Then I can say, "Actually, I don't mind being frank about it, do you?"
[00:39:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Is that too rude or weird?
[00:40:09] <Ethanol-fueled> The bad thing about her is that she hates racism. But I told her already that I write politically correct satire, so I think I'll be okay there.
[00:40:19] <crutchy> ~weather
[00:40:21] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC - currently 87°F / 31°C, partly cloudy, wind E at 6 mph, humidity 58% - Monday mostly cloudy (63°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C), Tuesday thunderstorm (50°F-86°F / 10°C-30°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (46°F-73°F / 8°C-23°C), Thursday partly cloudy (50°F-75°F / 10°C-24°C) - source: Google
[00:41:15] <SirFinkus> say you have asian in you, so she'll feel bad if she brings it up
[00:41:24] <SirFinkus> stereotypes and all
[00:42:35] <chromas> and then ask if she'd like a little asian in her
[00:42:50] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, just say to her "hey babe. if you ask me really nicely i might let you hold my cum dong"
[00:43:49] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: do this: https://www.youtube.com
[00:43:50] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03oh whoops, oooh. i dropped my monster condom that i use for my magnum dong. - YouTube
[00:44:32] <crutchy> tama probably has heaps of dating tips too
[00:45:04] <chromas> I wonder if we can force-invite ef into #
[00:45:10] <chromas> juggsctl probably could
[00:45:12] <Ethanol-fueled> she just cancelled, welp. Looks like a Black guy got to her.
[00:45:58] <chromas> he has an extender as well, it's just that she can't tell; with the lights dim, the whole thing just looks like a censor bar
[00:47:56] <SirFinkus> was the date just a premise to tell us about your extenders?
[00:55:44] <Ethanol-fueled> No, it wasn't.
[00:55:55] <Ethanol-fueled> She rescheduled for tomorrow, but that's already a huge hit against her.
[00:56:21] <Ethanol-fueled> good thing I am going to see my other friend tomorrow before I see her. I'll go to the date already with sex afterglow.
[00:57:41] <chromas> https://i.imgur.com
[00:58:47] <crutchy> chromas what is that?
[00:59:59] <chromas> dunno; someone pasted it in #archlinux and they didn't know either
[01:01:47] <chromas> looks like a Zipit
[01:02:07] <SirFinkus> that button in the middle looks like it has the finder logo on it
[01:02:14] <chromas> http://pective.com
[01:02:14] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Zipit wireless messenger (Z2) Actual Size Image
[01:02:18] <SirFinkus> well, almost
[01:02:25] <chromas> yeah I thought it looked like the old mac os face logo
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[01:08:48] <chromas> related, https://www.reddit.com
[01:08:50] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03[Arch] I see your 60$ PC and raise my 20 bucks laptop : unixporn
[01:14:54] <crutchy> ah i get it now. it has an arch logo on it
[01:15:13] <chromas> Cheap device with linux installed :)
[01:16:25] <crutchy> meh. call me when i can play tux racer on a NES :p
[01:16:40] <crutchy> ooh or c64 :D
[01:18:00] <crutchy> doesn't count unless it says "press play on tape"
[01:18:16] <chromas> :( I never had a tape drive for mine
[01:18:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Bye bye guys.
[01:18:32] <chromas> "I've recently bought a C64 on eBay, because i read some places that C64 was way better then a PC. So i am eager to get linux up n' running on this C64 - must be the perfect linux box. But i still haven't quite figured out how to compile linux for this machine. (or found any decent distros)"
[01:18:45] <chromas> see ya, ef
[01:18:47] <Ethanol-fueled> maybe be back on much later, drunk.
[01:18:48] <Ethanol-fueled> as usual.
[01:19:35] <SpallsHurgenson> need to use Lunix, not Linux :)
[01:20:35] <chromas> you're right
[01:20:45] <chromas> we need to find a lunix bistro
[01:22:46] <SpallsHurgenson> we do?
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[01:23:39] <swiss> a bistro sounds nice
[01:24:30] <chromas> actually
[01:24:40] <chromas> you're right, SpallsHurgenson; http://hld.c64.org
[01:24:43] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03LUnix Homepage
[01:24:56] <SpallsHurgenson> stop saying I'm right! people will get the wrong impression about me!
[01:25:21] <chromas> at first, I thought you were making a joke but now I think maybe you'd seen this before
[01:25:31] <chromas> and if you haven't, well, feel free to pretend you did :D
[01:25:59] <SpallsHurgenson> which would get me the chickies?
[01:26:15] <crutchy> ~weather
[01:26:16] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC - currently 89°F / 32°C, partly cloudy, wind E at 7 mph, humidity 58% - Monday mostly cloudy (63°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C), Tuesday thunderstorm (50°F-86°F / 10°C-30°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (46°F-73°F / 8°C-23°C), Thursday partly cloudy (50°F-75°F / 10°C-24°C) - source: Google
[01:26:24] <crutchy> still warming up :/
[01:26:47] <SpallsHurgenson> I lost three fingers to frostbite today
[01:27:41] <crutchy> that's no good. are you still searching for them?
[01:27:44] <SpallsHurgenson> fortunately, they weren't mine :)
[01:27:49] <chromas> hopefully not the two most important ones
[01:28:00] <crutchy> the g spot finger?
[01:28:10] <SirFinkus> pfft, you guys still use linux? https://www.youtube.com
[01:28:11] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvald's Linux - YouTube
[01:28:12] <crutchy> oops did i say that out loud
[01:28:23] <chromas> crutchy: it hits both g and f
[01:28:33] <crutchy> all the way to 11
[01:28:58] <chromas> one finger, hitting all the notes
[01:29:27] <chromas> [bedroom baysplosions]
[01:33:13] * SpallsHurgenson watches the video... so much blinking text
[01:34:41] <SirFinkus> we'll know soylent news has arrived when Terry Davis starts posting here
[01:35:10] <crutchy> or betty davis
[01:35:26] <chromas> ~define terry davis
[01:35:38] <crutchy> i think the heat is spazzing the tumbleweeds between my ears
[01:35:43] <exec> terry davis: unable to find definition
[01:36:10] <chromas> should be a disambiguation page from wp
[01:36:19] <crutchy> ~define-add terry davis, bette davis' estranged lover
[01:36:19] <exec> definition for term "terry davis" set to "bette davis' estranged lover"
[01:36:28] <SirFinkus> he's a schizophrenic genius, he wrote his own operating system and spams forums with insane ramblings from "god"
[01:36:44] <crutchy> omg that's APK!?
[01:36:51] <chromas> no, he said "genuis"
[01:37:04] <SpallsHurgenson> my god demands no less than 48-bit color
[01:37:05] <chromas> apk uses delphi but that's probably just an accident
[01:37:09] <crutchy> oh yeah that guy's a schizophrenic moron
[01:37:14] <crutchy> oops
[01:37:20] <chromas> ooh, when do we get timecube?
[01:37:56] <SirFinkus> his twitter account is fun https://twitter.com
[01:37:56] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Terry A. Davis (@TempleOS) | Twitter
[01:38:06] <Konomi> http://41.media.tumblr.com
[01:38:07] <crutchy> <tama> giving a starship a rimjob is not recommended due to risk of antimatter contamination
[01:38:11] <Konomi> worst fashion sense ever
[01:38:13] <crutchy> the stuff you guys miss out on
[01:39:00] <SpallsHurgenson> well, now we now what Konomi does during the day: rides the metro and takes pictures of men :)
[01:39:06] <crutchy> ~weather Konomi
[01:39:07] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[01:39:19] <crutchy> error: the temperature sensor has exploded
[01:39:44] <Konomi> SpallsHurgenson: actually I'm browsing this http://mentakingup2muchspaceonthetrain.tumblr.com
[01:39:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Men Taking Up Too Much Space on the Train
[01:40:02] <Konomi> guys in NY must be very odd I've never seen any guys sit like this here
[01:40:33] <crutchy> guys where you live prolly need an entire carriage to themselves just to accommodate the flies
[01:40:51] <SirFinkus> sometimes you need to air your balls out
[01:41:00] <Konomi> I just wanted to post that one in particilar
[01:41:09] <Konomi> cause it looks like he ate a 15 yo and stole their clothes
[01:41:32] <crutchy> a 15 yo hippopotumus?
[01:41:53] <Konomi> one who is fond of neon orange
[01:44:32] <SirFinkus> oh, here's a story about terry davis, for the curious http://motherboard.vice.com
[01:44:32] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03God's Lonely Programmer | Motherboard
[01:44:43] <crutchy> ~weather broken hill
[01:44:44] <exec> Weather for Broken Hill NSW - currently 93°F / 34°C, clear, wind N at 12 mph, humidity 10% - Monday cloudy (75°F-97°F / 24°C-36°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (66°F-93°F / 19°C-34°C), Wednesday clear (66°F-88°F / 19°C-31°C), Thursday clear (55°F-88°F / 13°C-31°C) - source: Google
[01:44:57] <crutchy> shit only 2 degrees higher wtf!?
[01:45:07] <Konomi> SpallsHurgenson: I also magically teleport to NY to do it \o/
[01:46:22] <SpallsHurgenson> that's in NY? Shit, I think I know that guy
[01:47:02] <Konomi> lol
[01:47:03] <ciri> lol that's funny!
[01:47:13] <Konomi> ciri-- # humor still working on it
[01:47:14] <Bender> karma - ciri: -29
[01:47:54] <SpallsHurgenson> computer, zoom out and enhance!
[01:48:35] <crutchy> <ciri> An error occurred during a marathon session of hand-pumping.
[01:49:01] <SpallsHurgenson> ~define hand-pumping
[01:49:18] <crutchy> an error occurred
[01:49:19] <exec> hand-pumping: unable to find definition
[01:49:49] <SpallsHurgenson> hmm, probably for the best
[01:50:55] <crutchy> <ciri> Crutchy's ring is brown and smelly and often contains nuts. Funny, but unfortunately i think i might learn something about how it came about.
[01:50:57] <crutchy> lmao
[01:52:15] <crutchy> maybe whenever ciri gets grabbed in the batcave the quote should be piped into here so that everyone can share the joy :p
[01:53:44] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe not
[01:54:20] <crutchy> lol
[01:54:20] <ciri> hehehe
[01:54:51] <chromas> oh yeah, ciri told me to punch my pony
[01:55:03] <crutchy> you should definitely do that
[01:55:22] <crutchy> tmb also got punched in the kernel
[01:56:58] <chromas> twice
[01:57:01] <chromas> ironically
[01:57:26] <SpallsHurgenson> with love?
[01:57:46] <chromas> nope. not according to ciri, anyhow
[01:58:21] <chromas> <ciri> chromas: You should punch your pony in the search box at the time, one of the most efficacious way to get harangued for something other than weighting inputs.
[01:59:15] <chromas> I don't think my pony has a search box. Wait, what happens if I press / ?
[01:59:25] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, only if it involved corn kernels
[02:07:54] <Konomi> is that like inuendo for putting your junk into a search box?
[02:09:26] <Konomi> cause it seems like it
[02:09:36] <Konomi> surprised no one tried to grab that lucky me \o/
[02:09:52] <crutchy> Konomi, you're warping my fragile little mind!
[02:09:56] <chromas> :(
[02:10:04] <Konomi> crutchy: yeah sure ;p
[02:10:05] <chromas> I was busy grabbing a guy in another channel
[02:10:16] <crutchy> !grab chromas
[02:10:17] <Bender> Added quote 314
[02:10:17] <Konomi> !grab chromas
[02:10:17] <Bender> Added quote 315
[02:10:18] <Konomi> win
[02:10:41] * Konomi does the dance of victory
[02:11:03] <crutchy> Konomi likes grabbing guys :p
[02:11:09] <Konomi> ewww
[02:11:15] <Konomi> I have standards!
[02:11:30] <Konomi> they have to wear a skirt first
[02:11:31] <chromas> and yet you're here
[02:11:35] <Konomi> \o/
[02:11:38] <crutchy> hmm
[02:11:45] <chromas> this does not fempute
[02:12:02] <crutchy> all my skirts are out of fashion
[02:12:15] <Konomi> ha that reminds me of supernatural where the guy said "Tell me only something we'd knwo" "once xyz made us wear her panties and you know what we kinda liked it." "Okay stop..."
[02:12:18] <Konomi> ha
[02:12:19] <Konomi> was so good
[02:12:25] <Konomi> time traveled iirc
[02:13:00] <crutchy> do two people type on a single keyboard to prevent a hacker from gaining access in that show?
[02:13:07] <crutchy> if not meh
[02:13:08] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[02:13:09] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Supernatural - Dean meets himself in 2014 - YouTube
[02:13:12] <Konomi> found the clip xD
[02:13:54] * crutchy wonders why nobody has invented a file browser resembling the gta game
[02:14:16] <crutchy> people walk around with filenames floating above them, and if you wanna delete a file you shut shoot it
[02:14:21] <chromas> I'd like to run over my files
[02:14:41] <crutchy> people might be more inclined to clean up their files that way
[02:15:06] <SpallsHurgenson> very psDoom
[02:15:35] <SpallsHurgenson> or BrutalFileManager
[02:16:00] <crutchy> and even if you're lazy, you can always do 'miamitraffic' and 'ourgodgivenrighttobeararms' and let files delete each other :D
[02:17:43] <chromas> http://www.fastcodesign.com
[02:17:44] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Infographic: How Many Lines Of Code Is Your Favorite App? | Co.Design | business + design
[02:27:51] <crutchy> a wise bot once said: <tama> coffee is made from the vaginas of angels
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[02:41:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - systemd Disables the Linux Magic SysRq Key - http://sylnt.us - Man-what?
[02:41:04] <Konomi> there are no words
[02:41:28] <chromas> whew
[02:41:36] <Konomi> also systemd ate my dog has anyone seen it?
[02:41:39] <chromas> You know, I was starting to get systemd withdrawals
[02:41:45] <chromas> more than one
[02:42:13] <Konomi> yeah I need my hit of drama
[02:42:16] <chromas> Konomi: it is annoying when systemd decides to wait forever on something noncritical and nothing works except a reboot
[02:42:39] <Konomi> when is kim kardashian going to weigh in on the systemd debate I'm waiting
[02:42:50] <chromas> what's that
[02:43:18] <Konomi> chromas: they changed the timeout on that awhole back it also lets you know it the display output if a service is misbehaving now
[02:43:29] <Konomi> i think it's 30 seconds then it gives up
[02:44:10] <chromas> well I'm already using the latest systemd and had that problem
[02:44:23] <Konomi> should
[02:44:27] <Konomi> 've displayed something
[02:44:33] <chromas> it was waiting on /home (which I had misconfigured)
[02:44:35] <Konomi> I can't show it I never bothered to screen capture anything of it
[02:44:55] <chromas> yeah it showed that it was waiting for x seconds out of infinity
[02:45:02] <Konomi> lol
[02:45:08] <Konomi> I guess mounts don't have time outs
[02:45:22] <chromas> which is terrible, because / was there so
[02:45:33] <crutchy> ciri: chromas likes mounting hard disks
[02:45:38] <crutchy> :/
[02:45:51] <Konomi> don't fuck up your home I guess?
[02:46:15] <chromas> when I finally got in and fixed it, then something (systemd according to someone else who had the same problem) would dismount it as soon as I'd try to mount it
[02:46:56] <crutchy> were you using protection?
[02:47:19] <chromas> no :(
[02:47:28] <crutchy> you dirty dog you :p
[02:47:41] <Konomi> gonna get some hiv
[02:47:43] <chromas> did a systemctl default then mount worked again
[02:47:48] <crutchy> maybe it needed a bit more chatting up first
[02:47:59] <Konomi> still have yet to have a problem with systemd
[02:48:01] <SirFinkus> fuck, I wish I wasn't so garbage at writing summaries
[02:48:12] <Konomi> SirFinkus: I know that feeling
[02:48:25] <chromas> SirFinkus: yeah it sucks.
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[02:48:36] <SirFinkus> I just spent like a half hour writing my shitty tor summary
[02:48:51] <Konomi> the supposed attack?
[02:49:05] <Konomi> I've been keeping an eye on metrics no one has attacked it yet
[02:49:17] <SirFinkus> oh, you missed some shit
[02:49:23] <crutchy> SirFinkus, i wrote a ~submit <url> script. i don't wanna get my bot kickbanned but the code can be pilfered to suit your own evil schemes
[02:49:37] <SirFinkus> http://article.gmane.org
[02:49:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Gmane -- Warning: Do NOT use my mirrors services until I have reviewed the situation
[02:49:44] <SirFinkus> tl:dr servers were seized
[02:50:06] <SirFinkus> not the directory authorities yet, but it may just bee the first move
[02:50:12] <Konomi> doesn't matter too much unless idiots are visiting non ssl/encrypted sites
[02:50:17] <Konomi> still shitty though for the network health
[02:50:38] <SirFinkus> the timing is what bothers me
[02:50:53] <Konomi> also most tor configs have no logs
[02:51:00] <Konomi> there's projects to run tor just in memory and nothing else
[02:51:02] <Konomi> \o/
[02:51:11] <SirFinkus> based on my understanding, there could be some shit if the authorities get seized
[02:51:16] <Konomi> depends on the operators though
[02:51:17] <chromas> they're putting humus up the server's asses
[02:51:25] <SirFinkus> that's how china blocks tor
[02:51:35] <Konomi> china blocks tor by doing reverse probes
[02:51:45] <Konomi> not raids
[02:51:58] <SirFinkus> I mean they block the directory authorities
[02:52:43] <SirFinkus> among other things
[02:53:08] <crutchy> tor is the illusion of anonymity
[02:54:01] <SirFinkus> it isn't really an illusion, it's pretty secure
[02:54:09] <SirFinkus> but it's super easy to fuck up
[02:54:23] <Konomi> they block directory authories
[02:54:28] <Konomi> and do dpi protocol blocking
[02:54:34] <Konomi> when they see a tor like connection
[02:54:40] <Konomi> they'll try to connect to the outside ip
[02:54:49] <Konomi> and if they get a tor like hand shake the ip will be black listed
[02:55:03] <Konomi> they also do it for ssh too
[02:55:21] <chromas> need to put that exit node behind seven proxies
[02:55:24] <Konomi> and iirc vpns of some types was in the news awhile back
[02:55:42] <Konomi> obfs will take care of it eventually
[02:55:46] <crutchy> the illusion is that people think its secure
[02:56:04] <crutchy> 'jurassic park' syndrome
[02:56:05] <chromas> what
[02:56:11] <Konomi> it is secure for the most part
[02:56:16] <Konomi> because it is well known
[02:56:21] <chromas> that means they don't really think it's secure but it looks like they think it is
[02:56:56] <SirFinkus> every (successful) attack I've read about against it involves things like browser exploits
[02:57:08] <Konomi> or stupid people ;p
[02:57:13] <SirFinkus> well, yeah
[02:57:21] <Konomi> the only creditable attack was sone by some university
[02:57:26] <crutchy> i might have said it before, but using tor is like driving around in a pimped out nissan skyline and wondering why the cops keep pulling you over
[02:57:28] <Konomi> adn it was posioning the packets
[02:57:31] <Konomi> it's been fixed though
[02:57:37] <SirFinkus> but I haven't read about any successful attacks against the actual protocol
[02:58:03] <Konomi> crutchy: defeatist attitude you better stop using SSL you might become a target ;p
[02:58:06] <crutchy> tor is fine unless the authorities use a universal key
[02:58:14] <Konomi> if that line of thought was ever followed through in tech you'd be still using telnet
[02:58:17] <crutchy> made out of a crowbar
[02:58:37] <crutchy> the pursuit of security is good. the assumption of security is flawed
[02:59:12] <SirFinkus> well, nothing gives you crowbar security
[02:59:23] <Konomi> actually there is
[02:59:41] <Konomi> OTR has perfect foward secrecy
[02:59:45] <SirFinkus> a bigger crowbar
[02:59:54] <Konomi> the chat session keys are expired between chats
[03:00:02] <SirFinkus> doesn't matter if you can pwn the box you're chatting on
[03:00:04] <Konomi> you can capture that data but not decrpyt it
[03:00:07] <Konomi> even if you threaten the user
[03:00:19] <Konomi> xkcd is witty sometimes but he's not versed in everything
[03:00:25] <Konomi> that's why the anaology doesn't hold up well
[03:00:53] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:00:54] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Forward secrecy
[03:01:44] <SirFinkus> if I have a chat program installed with absolutely perfect encryption and security, I'm still pwned if someone breaks into my house and plugs something into my laptop
[03:01:54] <Konomi> you're always pwned by that
[03:02:00] <SirFinkus> which is my point
[03:02:56] * chromas gives ciri a crowbar
[03:03:56] <Konomi> SirFinkus: what does this guy mirror anyway?
[03:06:20] <SirFinkus> not sure tbh
[03:07:19] <chromas> looks like one thing is a mailing-list-to-nntp gateway
[03:08:14] <SirFinkus> I'd imagine all of his stuff has been blacklisted by somebody
[03:08:42] <SirFinkus> Jacob Appelbaum was tweeting about it earlier, so they know about it
[03:09:25] <SpallsHurgenson> need more hardware
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[03:13:09] <chromas> I guess that's the main thing, archived mailing lists with news group access
[03:20:18] <SpallsHurgenson> newsgroup with mailing group access!
[03:31:11] <SpallsHurgenson> the Internet of Things will ensure Usenet's survival; our refrigerators must have NNTP access!
[03:32:44] <chromas> Clippit needs his own ipv6 address
[03:33:19] <chromas> "I see your isp still hasn't upgraded and it's a monopoly. Would you like me to get your gun?"
[03:35:11] <swiss> new couch
[03:35:12] <swiss> wooo
[03:35:22] <SirFinkus> fuck your couch swiss
[03:35:28] <swiss> fuck yo' couch nigga
[03:35:30] <chromas> does it support nntp?
[03:35:42] <swiss> chromas: of course, why would i buy a couch that didn't?
[03:35:54] <swiss> that'd just be crazy
[03:35:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I sure wouldn't!
[03:35:57] <swiss> gotta be future proof
[03:36:10] <swiss> http://i.imgur.com
[03:37:25] <SpallsHurgenson> needs more remotes
[03:37:54] <chromas> I've never seen a vacuum cleaner so rectangular
[03:38:07] <chromas> probably a modern fancy one
[03:38:11] <SpallsHurgenson> is that what the thing on the left is? I thought it was a ski pole
[03:38:36] * chromas is dismayed by the lack of computers in frame
[03:38:49] <SpallsHurgenson> or a big joystick built into the couch, 'cause that would be AWESOME
[03:39:21] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure that green thing on the table is a Windows 8 box :) :) :)
[03:40:34] <SpallsHurgenson> and I can't tell what the book is, but that's definitely the Quake symbol on the cover :)
[03:42:16] <chromas> I see a couple gamepads too, maybe ps4
[03:44:10] <Subsentient> I think this new code is ugly as hell. I feel like there's a better way I could do this, but I'm far too tired to know what it is.
[03:44:11] <Subsentient> https://github.com
[03:44:12] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Add ability to use !TITLE! as well as !STATUS! in FinishedStatusFormat. · 8356072 · Subsentient/epoch · GitHub
[03:56:29] <Konomi> icky
[03:56:51] <Subsentient> Konomi: Indeed. Got a better way?
[03:57:25] <Konomi> not really C isn't my forte
[03:57:35] <Konomi> looked at enough of it though to know what looks out of place though
[03:57:49] <Konomi> strcpy ;p
[03:58:06] <Subsentient> Konomi: ehh, strcpy() is safe when used PROPERLY.
[03:58:14] <Subsentient> 99% of people can't.
[03:58:28] <Konomi> people seldom do ;p
[04:00:45] <Konomi> do at the top looks really freaking odd
[04:01:02] <Subsentient> Konomi: THat's called a do-while loop. It's supposed to look like that.
[04:01:14] <Konomi> yeah I've alway avoided them
[04:01:24] <Subsentient> They can be really useful. Nothing evil about them.
[04:02:08] <SpallsHurgenson> I stick with GOTO
[04:02:19] <Subsentient> hehe
[04:02:22] * Konomi looks for something to set SpallsHurgenson on fire with
[04:02:33] <Subsentient> I don't think Epoch has too many gotos.
[04:02:44] <Subsentient> aqu4bot however is full of them. I used them wisely though.
[04:02:51] <Konomi> I never use gotos
[04:03:03] <Konomi> I would help clean up but I dont know enough C to change this
[04:03:07] <Konomi> it does look like a mess though
[04:03:25] <Subsentient> Konomi: I just think there should be a better way to test this stuff without nested ifs.
[04:03:52] <Konomi> use a switch if you can
[04:03:55] <Konomi> they're genrally cleaner
[04:04:01] <Konomi> I think C switches are pretty limited though
[04:04:10] <Konomi> I'm used to bash where I can regex everyything
[04:04:58] <Subsentient> in C, switches' control must be an integer, and the labels must be constants.
[04:05:12] <Konomi> yeah they're so shit
[04:05:13] <Konomi> -.-
[04:05:25] <Subsentient> nahh, I still get a lot of use out of switches
[04:05:29] <Konomi> my SO already told me how crap C switches are I just forgot until you mentioned
[04:05:45] <Konomi> you'll just have to switch to cxx
[04:05:45] <Konomi> ;p
[04:05:55] <Subsentient> I hate C++.
[04:05:57] <Konomi> ha
[04:06:04] <Konomi> too much oop ;p ?
[04:06:09] <Subsentient> It's huge and bloated and a far worse mess than C ever was.
[04:06:12] <SpallsHurgenson> well, there's always visual basic
[04:08:26] <chromas> gooeys++
[04:08:26] <Bender> karma - gooeys: 1
[04:18:21] <crutchy> ~weather
[04:18:22] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC - currently 95°F / 35°C, overcast, wind NE at 10 mph, humidity 50% - Monday mostly cloudy (63°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C), Tuesday thunderstorm (50°F-86°F / 10°C-30°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (46°F-73°F / 8°C-23°C), Thursday partly cloudy (50°F-75°F / 10°C-24°C) - source: Google
[04:18:36] <crutchy> how you goin there Konomi?
[04:19:05] <crutchy> feels like fkin 40 degrees in my dogbox :/
[04:19:05] <Konomi> cloud cover so it's okay
[04:19:35] <Konomi> aquire more air con?
[04:19:40] <crutchy> living room is ok cos its got the AC going but anywhere else in the house is sticky
[04:19:59] <Konomi> not using swamp coolers?
[04:20:01] <Konomi> much fail
[04:20:09] <crutchy> might have to break out the kiddy pool later :p
[04:20:20] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o aqu4] by juggler
[04:20:31] <crutchy> missus has a water cooler going in one of the bedrooms
[04:20:36] <Konomi> gas cooling for the most part sucks here not sure why people expect a window unit to cool a whole house
[04:21:26] <crutchy> just got one of those ones that you put the duct in the window. i fixed the drain into a fitting in the floor so i don't have to worry about draining the water out at least
[04:28:19] <SpallsHurgenson> there are polar bears scratching at my windows
[04:29:13] <Konomi> stop waving your butt like a seal and they'll leave you alone
[04:35:09] <crutchy> pfft
[04:35:11] <crutchy> http://www.bom.gov.au
[04:35:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03128 km Bairnsdale Radar Loop
[04:35:34] <crutchy> maybe the dishes have melted
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[04:45:25] <crutchy> Subsentient use pascal man. its still RAD!
[04:58:25] <Subsentient> crutchy: C FTW
[05:07:39] <crutchy> this is a little php thing i'm working on: http://irciv.us.to
[05:07:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03IRCiv
[05:07:56] <crutchy> might be a bit like your wz in a way
[05:08:06] <crutchy> not sure
[05:08:13] <chromas> crutchy: you should write a service manager/init in php :D
[05:08:31] <crutchy> systemphp :D
[05:09:11] <chromas> with execfs for ipc
[05:09:42] <crutchy> execVM
[05:09:53] <crutchy> i wish
[05:10:05] <crutchy> i can't even write a decent bot
[05:10:22] <crutchy> though it is fun :)
[05:10:34] <SpallsHurgenson> what about an indecent bot?
[05:10:46] <crutchy> tama already took that crown
[05:14:58] <crutchy> chromas, made it so big chunks of fog don't show up in the map. i could make it a flag
[05:15:24] <chromas> crutchy: in civ 5, the fog is volumetric :D
[05:18:28] <crutchy> eye candy is good. just not in strategy games
[05:18:36] <crutchy> imho
[05:18:57] <crutchy> civ2++
[05:18:57] <Bender> karma - civ2: 3
[05:18:58] <chromas> it distracts you from the fact that it's just a small pile of numbers
[05:19:13] <chromas> shiny++
[05:19:13] <Bender> karma - shiny: 1
[05:19:14] <crutchy> that's it
[05:19:24] <crutchy> strategy is all about numbers
[05:19:43] <chromas> replace the graphical tiles with number tables
[05:19:48] <crutchy> simple maps are good for visualizing
[05:19:55] <chromas> QuattroCiv
[05:20:22] <crutchy> i dunno how to show a civ map with just ascii
[05:20:27] <crutchy> i guess it would be possible
[05:20:44] <crutchy> just have letters for different things
[05:21:42] <crutchy> would have to train the mind to associate though. simple glyphs are easy to associate
[05:21:58] <crutchy> like symbols on a cd player
[05:22:13] <crutchy> hmm actually not like those
[05:22:18] <chromas> those symbols have unicode points
[05:22:41] <chromas> though most of the fancier symbols look like a dogshit taco in monospace
[05:22:46] <crutchy> lol
[05:22:46] <ciri> rofl
[05:22:55] <crutchy> or boxes
[05:22:59] <crutchy> mmm
[05:23:02] <crutchy> boxes++
[05:23:02] <Bender> karma - boxes: 1
[05:23:05] <chromas> yeah, if your fonts are broken
[05:23:27] <crutchy> i've just got default debian fonts
[05:23:32] <chromas> if you've got the right font then it's just a jumble
[05:23:44] <chromas> monospace--
[05:23:44] <Bender> karma - monospace: -2
[05:24:01] <crutchy> my galaxy s4 mini shows the dogshit glyph
[05:24:16] <crutchy> android++
[05:24:16] <Bender> karma - android: -1
[05:24:17] <chromas> though a letter map would be odd in a variable-width font
[05:24:33] <chromas> =poo
[05:24:33] <Hedonismbot> 💩
[05:24:43] <chromas> does it have a face?
[05:24:55] <crutchy> yeah. i find it easier to associate a simple blue filled square with an ocean tile than a letter 'O' or something
[05:24:55] <chromas> and little splats or flies or whatever
[05:25:15] <crutchy> nah in hexchat just shows up as a box with the code in it
[05:25:18] <chromas> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[05:25:30] <chromas> ^^^^^^ocean^^^^^^^
[05:25:39] <Konomi> ps
[05:25:45] <Konomi> if you're on linux and can't see that
[05:25:47] <Konomi> install unifont
[05:26:20] <crutchy> sudo apt-get install unifont?
[05:26:26] <Konomi> probably
[05:26:44] <crutchy> for some weird reason my synaptic still doesn't open :/
[05:27:13] <chromas> did you put dbus back in?
[05:27:13] <crutchy> its forcing me to do shit in a cli
[05:27:30] <crutchy> on my desktop
[05:27:51] <crutchy> the dbus experiment was in a VM on my lappy
[05:27:53] <Konomi> crutchy: run it from the console and pastebin the output
[05:28:01] <chromas> do you have polkit installed?
[05:28:40] <crutchy> ooh it started from the cli
[05:28:48] <crutchy> just doesn't work from the menu :/
[05:29:14] <crutchy> Konomi++ # for tricking me into trying out the (in hindsight) obvious :p
[05:29:14] <Bender> karma - konomi: 35
[05:29:49] <crutchy> there's unifont and xfonts-unifont packages
[05:29:56] <crutchy> ooh and ttf-unifont
[05:31:22] <Konomi> unifont will pull them all in
[05:31:33] <Konomi> so install it
[05:33:20] <chromas> when I paste a link into pidgin I expect the title to pop up and it doesn't
[05:33:30] <chromas> instant messaging needs bots :)
[05:34:37] <swiss> chromas: ps3 gamepads, and xbox one
[05:34:37] <crutchy> root@binda:/nas/server/git/exec-irc-bot# synaptic
[05:34:37] <crutchy> Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
[05:34:50] <crutchy> dunno what that means
[05:35:01] <crutchy> still run ok
[05:35:02] <swiss> chromas: also, why would computers be in frame? I'm a smart man. Do you see the usb cables coming out from under the couch?
[05:35:11] <swiss> those are active USB extension cables
[05:35:16] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, whoever it was that recommended the movie "The Man From Earth", you owe me two hours of my life back
[05:35:22] <swiss> oh, you can't see them in that frame
[05:35:41] <chromas> swiss: 'cause then we could count them
[05:35:46] <crutchy> i started watching an anime series called 'school days'
[05:35:54] <chromas> more things to account for when calculating the nerd factor
[05:36:12] <swiss> chromas: psh. A well managed person never shows his electronics
[05:36:14] <crutchy> wow i can see poo
[05:36:20] <crutchy> I CAN SEE THE POO!!!!!!
[05:36:28] <swiss> though i should take a picture of my game console bins
[05:36:35] <swiss> my cable management is top knotch
[05:36:55] <chromas> a well-managed person never shows is bins
[05:37:01] <SpallsHurgenson> swiss: I just toss all my game console controllers and cables into a big bucket :)
[05:37:10] <swiss> when i say "bins" i mean "cubbys that hold the game consoles"
[05:37:15] <SpallsHurgenson> (my PC hardware, of course, is meticulously organized :)
[05:37:30] <swiss> and i have the usb extensions from the console so the cables never run more than 6' or so to the controller
[05:38:09] <swiss> i still need a way to extend the wii's gamecube ports
[05:38:18] <swiss> which is a real issue
[05:38:41] <SpallsHurgenson> I hate cable management
[05:39:06] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, I can get things looking really nice and neat, but then three days later I have to take it apart when I change the hardware anyway :)
[05:39:22] <swiss> lol
[05:39:27] <chromas> or when you change the ceiling
[05:39:36] <crutchy> lol i was just thinking that
[05:39:37] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[05:39:39] <SpallsHurgenson> don't get me started on my ceiling
[05:39:40] <swiss> i need to run ethernet through the attic
[05:39:46] <swiss> :(
[05:39:51] <chromas> how's that going, SpallsHurgenson?
[05:40:08] <crutchy> just get a bilge pump for your ark :D
[05:40:09] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm ceilingless at least until the new year
[05:40:37] <crutchy> that sucks man
[05:40:51] <crutchy> not even funny
[05:41:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I can live with that, mostly... it's having all my stuff scatted about the rest of the house that really annoys me. I hate being disorganized
[05:42:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I wish I could string cables in my ceiling or walls... I have so much cables stuff along the baseboards and under the carpets its ridiculous :)
[05:43:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I need a house with built in cat6... or, oooh, fiber optics!
[05:44:14] <swiss> excuse the cable mess in the bottom left cabinet. I haven't gotten to putting it in plastic baggies in my "electronic cords" box
[05:44:17] <swiss> http://imgur.com
[05:44:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[05:44:38] <swiss> also, potato pics
[05:45:09] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, time to over-analyze another of swiss's pics!
[05:45:50] <SpallsHurgenson> okay, first I need an app that can read q-codes so I can figure out what that thing on the table is :)
[05:46:06] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: 150 internet points if you can identify every media device in cabinet C2
[05:46:13] <swiss> i think you can get 3 out of 4
[05:47:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm still working on trying to figure out what those figurines on top of the shelf are... is that Link from the Zelda games?
[05:47:22] <swiss> amiibos
[05:47:37] <swiss> they are NFC figurines that communicate with Super Smash Brothers
[05:48:30] <SpallsHurgenson> there's something unplugged behind the TV. this is annoying my OCD, please plug it in and upload another picture :)
[05:51:11] <swiss> what do you believe is unplugged
[05:51:32] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't really identify anything for sure. I assume the thing with the green LEDs is a router and maybe the short thing just above with the red LED is a modem...
[05:51:35] <swiss> because i guarantee, nothing is unplugged, but it sounds like i need to fix some cable management
[05:51:49] <swiss> oh, potato pics don't help
[05:52:33] <SpallsHurgenson> swiss: beneath the table just to the right of the TV, there is a power cord very obviously unplugged. some poor electrical device is being starved of power, you monster!
[05:53:20] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: oh, that's the power drill battery charger
[05:53:29] <swiss> i cannot leave that plugged in - it would overcharge the battery
[05:53:48] <SpallsHurgenson> no excuses! besides, the explosion would be awesome :)
[05:55:52] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: replaced with a not potato quality pic of C2
[05:56:02] <swiss> http://i.imgur.com
[05:56:15] <swiss> the lack of potato quality may give away what the hard to guess device is
[05:57:42] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, onLive!
[05:57:53] <swiss> yep
[05:58:06] <swiss> you're familiar with them then?
[05:58:38] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, streaming games from the internet
[05:58:52] <swiss> yep. That console was one of the first
[05:59:00] <SpallsHurgenson> unfortunately, I don't have the bandwidth for that sort of stuff
[05:59:01] <swiss> i was super beta test on that, and they gave me a free console.
[05:59:12] <swiss> ah, 300/20 seems to be sufficient
[06:00:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm still not sure what that big one is; my initial guess is a PS3 but it doesn't have the notch
[06:00:45] <swiss> it is a ps3
[06:00:55] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, must be the angle then.
[06:01:34] <swiss> for a PS3 Slim?
[06:01:39] <SpallsHurgenson> what's the square thing bottom left. external hdd?
[06:01:54] <swiss> try again
[06:02:00] <swiss> hint: media streaming
[06:02:26] <SpallsHurgenson> a roku?
[06:02:46] <swiss> close. Amazon Fire TV
[06:03:06] <swiss> I absolutely love it. It's my go-to for all my streamed shows now
[06:03:21] <swiss> the voice search is the best, never had it seriously screw up on me
[06:03:24] <SpallsHurgenson> the upright thing on the left is a video-input-switcher thingee
[06:03:27] <swiss> yep
[06:03:45] <swiss> CEC compatible (so if the device says "Turn on!" it turns on, and turns the TV on)
[06:03:56] <swiss> also, it turns off when the TV turns off, from the CEC signal from the TV
[06:04:11] <crutchy> what happened to big bulky receivers with fooly sick subwoofers hooked up to them?
[06:04:34] <swiss> I want a big receiver, but i need to know which commands of the CEC protocol it's going to actually obey
[06:04:46] <crutchy> CEC?
[06:04:52] * crutchy googles
[06:04:58] <swiss> such is the pain of having worked with HDMI very closely - I know of its capabilities and I fucking hate that companies ignore it
[06:04:59] <SpallsHurgenson> Council for Exceptional Children
[06:05:13] <swiss> http://www.cec-o-matic.com this might make it make more sense
[06:05:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03CEC-O-MATIC
[06:05:24] <crutchy> pfft all this new fangled shit
[06:05:24] <SpallsHurgenson> basically, he has little kids standing in the background that switch the tv to the right input as necessary :)
[06:05:36] <swiss> CEC is a single wire RS232 protocol
[06:05:44] <crutchy> my receiver doesn't have hdmi. i had to get a separate switch box for it :/
[06:06:32] <SpallsHurgenson> my TV has four HDMI, VGA, DVI, coax, antenna and s-video inputs :)
[06:06:39] <crutchy> they should make card things like computers
[06:07:05] <SpallsHurgenson> erm... not sure about DVI, actually. still, lots of stuff to plug in. oh, and USB :)
[06:07:40] <crutchy> digital tv set top boxes are handy. cheap and easy to update with all the new gadgetry
[06:07:59] <crutchy> $50 gets two tuners and built-in hdd nowadays
[06:08:21] <crutchy> hmm actually might have been $80 for the hdd one
[06:09:38] <swiss> i need a hdmi receiver also because my tv's audio out is shit
[06:09:59] <crutchy> i still prefer spdif
[06:10:13] <crutchy> optical
[06:11:21] <swiss> my tv's audio out is 3.5mm
[06:11:36] <SpallsHurgenson> good thing about getting older is that the quality of audio and video starts to become less important :)
[06:12:01] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: did you see what was UNDER my TV?
[06:12:18] <SpallsHurgenson> if I can differentiate the bright bits from the dark bits and dimly make out the notes of the song, I'm good :)
[06:13:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Doubt about Dark Matter - http://sylnt.us - I'm-not-so-sure
[06:13:40] <crutchy> the audio out of my pyewta is 3.5mm. too lazy to go get a decent audio card
[06:13:51] <crutchy> s/lazy/cheap/
[06:13:51] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> the audio out of my pyewta is 3.5mm. too cheap to go get a decent audio card
[06:14:56] <SpallsHurgenson> the big black thing on the floor sort of looks like my dvd/vcr combo unit but that's really the only thing I can guess at
[06:16:03] <swiss> laserdisc
[06:16:07] <SpallsHurgenson> judging by the xbox game (green box) on top of the table by the tv, one of those other boxes may be an xbox as well
[06:16:26] <SpallsHurgenson> whoa, laserdisc. timewarp
[06:16:30] <swiss> the box on the shelf on the right is an xbox one
[06:16:49] <swiss> yep. And the cabinet D2 is filled with laserdiscs, and i have prob 50 more in a box downstairs
[06:17:14] <SpallsHurgenson> is the grey bog on the floor next to the laserdisc an original playstation?
[06:17:36] <SpallsHurgenson> erm, box not bog
[06:17:43] <swiss> yes
[06:17:48] <swiss> it's not hooked up
[06:17:59] <SpallsHurgenson> thought so; I could dimly make out the round top hatch :)
[06:19:19] <SpallsHurgenson> dunno what the boxes on the middle shelf are. the one with the remote might be a cable box.
[06:19:32] <SpallsHurgenson> no, wait, can't be a cable box, that's a weird remote
[06:20:03] <swiss> with a remote?
[06:20:43] <SpallsHurgenson> oh wait, that might be a box sitting on top of another box
[06:20:51] <swiss> yep, that's another box
[06:20:57] <swiss> that's a Nintendo Wii
[06:21:06] <swiss> i bet you can guess what's beneath it though
[06:21:25] <SpallsHurgenson> not really :)
[06:21:32] <crutchy> do you have minidisc too? from when sony wasn't as shit
[06:22:03] <swiss> no :(
[06:22:29] <swiss> i don't have betamax either
[06:22:38] <SpallsHurgenson> 8-track tape deck?
[06:22:44] <swiss> i acquired the player and approx 50-80 laserdiscs from my uncle
[06:23:06] <swiss> nope, no tape deck
[06:23:12] <crutchy> there's an episode of regular show about laserdisc
[06:23:14] <swiss> also, i haven't decided on a turntable yet
[06:23:25] <swiss> crutchy: i met the guys who draw for the regular show at a party
[06:23:36] <SpallsHurgenson> edison phonograph cylinders? :)
[06:23:37] <crutchy> does anyone have a digital cassette deck? now they were awesome
[06:23:48] <swiss> lol
[06:23:48] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[06:24:06] <swiss> i need a turntable for my records, and an SVHS player
[06:24:07] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, they would be worth a fortune
[06:24:14] <swiss> then I think i'll be set
[06:24:33] <crutchy> there's a company in adelaide that handmakes vacuum tube amps that sell for AU$60k+
[06:25:57] <SpallsHurgenson> hook 'em up to your equipment with monster cables
[06:27:53] <swiss> about 1/3 of my cables are monster cables
[06:27:57] <swiss> that i've acquired through the years
[06:28:12] <swiss> monster cables are actually very very nice. I would never buy them, but they're nice as hell to use
[06:28:21] <crutchy> as long as its ofc i'm not brand-fussy
[06:28:46] <crutchy> mains do need nice thick copper though i think
[06:29:04] <swiss> the end connectors and the flexibility of the cable is what's nice in this case
[06:29:05] <crutchy> not that cheap flimsy shit
[06:29:16] <swiss> cable is nice and solid, yet will coil easily
[06:29:26] <crutchy> noice
[06:31:08] <crutchy> i chuck banana plugs on my cables
[06:31:14] <crutchy> bit shitty
[06:31:27] <swiss> i totally banana plugged my speaker cables
[06:31:32] <swiss> makes them so much easier and nicer to use
[06:31:48] <swiss> got them from monoprice
[06:32:02] <SpallsHurgenson> while I agree in principle, in practice I'd rather just buy four cheapo cables that do the job but don't have the longevity and replace as necessary... and I'll still come out ahead compared to monster cable costs
[06:32:02] <crutchy> audiophiles might argue that screwing cable directly to connector is better. i dunno
[06:32:21] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: absolutely agree
[06:32:31] <swiss> but when you get free monster cables, you should never complain
[06:32:40] <crutchy> i just bought a bunch of ofc off a reel :p
[06:32:58] <swiss> crutchy: i believe that audiophiles could agree with a good banana plug
[06:33:15] <crutchy> i was too cheap to go gold plated
[06:33:15] <swiss> less wear and tear on the cable, and most likely a more solid connection
[06:33:20] <swiss> oh, how could you
[06:33:24] <crutchy> lol
[06:33:26] <swiss> we're talking pennies here
[06:33:30] <SpallsHurgenson> oddly enough, while I manage to pick up a lot of free hardware, I've never gotten free cables :)
[06:33:56] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: gotta ask. Don't think "Oh, i have the stuff to hook this up." instead, think "Oh, they might have nicer stuff to hook this up"
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[06:34:17] <Ethanol-fueled> nobody's in # right now and I'm lonely.
[06:34:25] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: hi
[06:34:30] <crutchy> or "hmm if i chuck some banana plugs on the wires of this power extension cord it'll do" :D
[06:34:33] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup. How goes it?
[06:34:43] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, tama is there :)
[06:34:50] <swiss> i need to find some nice 27"x39" poster frames
[06:34:51] <Ethanol-fueled> hay-yell naw.
[06:35:04] <swiss> for my old The Ghost In The Shell posters
[06:36:15] <crutchy> swiss, maybe make some out of old fence palings
[06:36:57] * crutchy likes unique picture frames
[06:37:01] <swiss> no, these posters are worth too much
[06:37:14] <swiss> i don't think I could buy them again if I damaged one
[06:38:24] <crutchy> something like this looks pretty nice: http://2.bp.blogspot.com
[06:38:29] <crutchy> (frame-wise)
[06:38:31] <Ethanol-fueled> what is that anime with the futuristic space-cop who has that R2-D2 like sidekick he keeps calling things like "fuckhead?"
[06:39:07] <crutchy> assuming you don't mean the family guy star wars?
[06:39:23] <SpallsHurgenson> bah, if I want pictures on the wall I'll repurpose some old laptops or tablets :)
[06:39:34] <crutchy> that would be cool too
[06:39:43] <crutchy> rip the bezel off an old monitor
[06:41:08] <SpallsHurgenson> even though it's not the same, I'm wary of messing around with monitors. I got shocked to hell futzing around with an old CRT once :)
[06:41:18] <crutchy> though i guess 27x39" monitors aren't usually 'old' yet
[06:41:58] <crutchy> haven't had a CRT for a few years
[06:41:59] <SpallsHurgenson> now my brain says "it shows pictures and is electrical, don't touch!" regardless of the technology :)
[06:42:40] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, this was a long while ago, and on a TV. it had a dial and everything :)
[06:43:08] <crutchy> ooh pizza's here :D
[06:43:13] <crutchy> ~weather
[06:43:14] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC - currently 86°F / 30°C, overcast, wind NE at 8 mph, humidity 61% - Monday mostly cloudy (63°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C), Tuesday thunderstorm (50°F-86°F / 10°C-30°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (46°F-73°F / 8°C-23°C), Thursday partly cloudy (50°F-75°F / 10°C-24°C) - source: Google
[06:43:20] <crutchy> finally cooling down
[06:44:04] <SpallsHurgenson> uh-huh, "cooling down". I have icicles outside begging to come inside, it's so cold 'round here :)
[06:45:46] <crutchy> yeah cold sucks
[06:45:59] <crutchy> hot does too but i prefer hot to cold
[06:46:03] * SpallsHurgenson denies there was any exageration to his last comment
[06:46:28] <swiss> GOD DAMMIT
[06:46:32] <swiss> THEY'RE IN STOCK AT IKEA
[06:46:42] <SpallsHurgenson> I prefer cold to hot. I can usually find a way to warm up (heater, sweater, blanket, small thermonuclear explosions)
[06:46:43] <crutchy> no chance of a white xmas around here :/
[06:48:09] <crutchy> apparently vodka works too
[06:48:33] <crutchy> if anyone knows about cold it would have to be the russians
[06:48:37] <SpallsHurgenson> although I guess it's less the heat than the humidity that I really hate in summer. but we never get the one without the other
[06:48:52] <Ethanol-fueled> IKEA rocks.
[06:49:03] <swiss> i was just at Ikea though
[06:49:08] <swiss> like, in the last 12 hours
[06:49:16] <Ethanol-fueled> the stock thing never tells the truth.
[06:49:21] <SpallsHurgenson> Ikea is swedish though
[06:49:27] <swiss> i didn't know ikea had the frames I needed
[06:49:45] <crutchy> here its dry heat. sister in law came down from queensland where its hot and humid. even she was uncomfortable today
[06:49:53] <Ethanol-fueled> if you've ever managed an ERP system or done cycle-counts you know that what shows in the DB is never what's available.
[06:50:04] <Ethanol-fueled> sucks, crutchy. Do you have weather in Australia?
[06:50:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Like, snow, or rain?
[06:50:40] <crutchy> rain yes. never heard of snow at 180ft amsl here
[06:50:42] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: they generally aren't out of stock of anything i care about at mine
[06:50:55] <Ethanol-fueled> what are you trying to buy, swiss?
[06:51:02] <swiss> 27x39 poster frames
[06:51:03] <crutchy> a death star
[06:51:06] * Ethanol-fueled just bought a stand and bamboo plant from IKEA
[06:51:34] <swiss> lol. I should get that plant. It would prob make my house look a bit nicer
[06:51:41] <Ethanol-fueled> I have an IKEA bed, and it's rock-solid. I just hate their modular approach because you have to buy more shit.
[06:51:43] <swiss> just throw it on a random flat surface or summin
[06:51:51] <swiss> i love my ikea bedframe
[06:51:52] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, I have it on my breakfast bar.
[06:51:55] <swiss> and my ikea couch
[06:52:11] <swiss> literally everything but my coffee table, furniture wise, in my media room is ikea
[06:52:16] <swiss> oh, you didn't see my media room pics
[06:52:19] <Ethanol-fueled> IKEA is fucking awesome.
[06:52:21] <swiss> http://imgur.com
[06:52:21] <Hedonismbot> * 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[06:52:23] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, point me to them.
[06:52:26] <swiss> linked
[06:52:55] * SpallsHurgenson agrees to disagree with swiss; ikea is crap. gimme some solid hardwood furniture :)
[06:53:07] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: depends on what you're looking for
[06:53:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I want something that can withstand... well... me :)
[06:53:25] <swiss> as a bachelor living in a townhouse that I don't plan on staying in more than 3 years
[06:53:28] <swiss> ikea is perfect
[06:53:38] <crutchy> swiss, try summin like this: http://helmer.sfe.se
[06:53:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Building home linux render cluster
[06:53:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Damn swiss, that's rad.
[06:53:47] <SpallsHurgenson> well that's true. ikea furniture barely lasts that long :)
[06:53:54] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: you like the laserdiscs?
[06:54:03] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: my lack tables have lasted all of college
[06:54:25] <swiss> crutchy: lol
[06:54:26] <SpallsHurgenson> apparently almost all the pictures in ikea catalogs are computer generated
[06:54:42] <swiss> that's badass. They should distribute the files as sketchup files
[06:54:52] <swiss> so you can create your own test rooms
[06:55:26] <swiss> SpallsHurgenson: i was gonna get a real couch from a handcrafted store and such, then realized i would want it to match the house and rooms
[06:55:43] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll show you all my horrific living conditions in muh studio apartment.
[06:55:47] <SpallsHurgenson> I went to ikea just to get a catalog when I read that, I admit it :)
[06:56:15] <crutchy> the guy goes a bit batshit here http://helmer3.sfe.se
[06:56:16] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03HelmerII - The River
[06:57:47] <swiss> studio apartment sounds like meh
[06:59:40] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, because I'm a loser poorfag.
[06:59:59] <Ethanol-fueled> hourly employee paying own way through school
[07:00:07] <ar> something something TOR something: https://blog.torproject.org - http://article.gmane.org
[07:00:07] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Possible upcoming attempts to disable the Tor network | The Tor Blog
[07:00:07] <Hedonismbot> * 03Gmane -- Warning: Do NOT use my mirrors services until I have reviewed the situation
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[07:00:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Muh apartment: http://i.imgur.com
[07:00:41] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: i rented a room from a philippino couple in their house
[07:00:49] <swiss> in college
[07:00:53] <swiss> i turned it into a home theater
[07:01:13] <swiss> http://veryoblivio.us
[07:01:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Index of /theater/
[07:02:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Muh one of a kind poster from being at a protest: http://i.imgur.com
[07:02:54] <swiss> you should look into renting a room at a house though
[07:02:59] <swiss> it's p nice
[07:03:04] <swiss> especially if you have kitchen access
[07:03:29] <Ethanol-fueled> no way swiss. I bang bitches.
[07:03:30] <swiss> shouldn't that be "Chelsea Manning" now
[07:03:43] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, that's what makes the poster one-of-a-kind
[07:03:59] <Ethanol-fueled> the free bradley manning marches took place before the change to chelsea.
[07:04:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Muh Trinkets: http://i.imgur.com
[07:04:22] <swiss> pm'd you
[07:04:36] <Ethanol-fueled> didn't get it, swiss.
[07:04:50] <swiss> still pm-ing
[07:05:04] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, can you say it here?
[07:05:09] * SpallsHurgenson notices the nightly backup has kicked in
[07:05:22] <swiss> nah, a bit too much of a flamable topic
[07:05:35] <swiss> like when i say pro-NSA things, and i'm not gonna be online much longer tonight
[07:05:49] <swiss> i hate starting arguments i'm not around to finish
[07:07:06] <Ethanol-fueled> you all will notice that in the "trinkets" pic there is a picture of a Fiddler on the Roof christmas card. In it my sister wrote that I act like a Jew.
[07:07:07] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAH
[07:09:58] <SpallsHurgenson> there's something very relaxing about watching my files get backed up :)
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[07:37:09] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, you can kick yourself in # now
[07:37:13] <crutchy> using .kick
[07:37:36] <crutchy> just for you buddy :p
[07:42:35] <crutchy> ~weather JamesNZ
[07:42:36] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[07:42:40] <crutchy> :/
[07:43:05] <crutchy> ~weather-add JamesNZ New Zealand
[07:43:07] <exec> name "JamesNZ" set for location "New Zealand"
[07:43:14] <crutchy> ~weather JamesNZ
[07:43:16] <exec> Weather for Wellington, New Zealand - currently 66°F / 19°C, clear, wind N at 9 mph, humidity 64% - Monday clear (54°F-74°F / 12°C-23°C), Tuesday clear (56°F-71°F / 13°C-22°C), Wednesday clear (58°F-69°F / 14°C-21°C), Thursday partly cloudy (59°F-66°F / 15°C-19°C) - source: Google
[07:43:24] <crutchy> noice
[07:43:46] * JamesNZ sweats profusely
[07:43:56] <crutchy> seems to be cooling down here a lot now
[07:44:00] <crutchy> ~weather
[07:44:01] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC - currently 79°F / 26°C, overcast, wind NE at 9 mph, humidity 45% - Monday mostly cloudy (63°F-84°F / 17°C-29°C), Tuesday thunderstorm (50°F-86°F / 10°C-30°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (46°F-73°F / 8°C-23°C), Thursday partly cloudy (50°F-75°F / 10°C-24°C) - source: Google
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[07:44:44] <crutchy> shit
[07:44:50] * crutchy quickly puts his pants back on
[07:45:49] <JamesNZ> Oh, er, I'm afraid I painted the inside of those pink when you weren't using them :P
[07:46:09] * JamesNZ doubts the paint has dried
[07:47:31] * crutchy admits he's never made a mess of his shorts with help from another guy before
[07:49:19] <JamesNZ> There's a first time for everything.
[07:53:09] <Ethanol-fueled> thanks crutchy.
[07:53:31] <crutchy> wont work in here though cos my bot has no powahs
[07:53:57] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, that's fine. I don't need voice status in here anyway.
[07:54:33] <crutchy> .kick crutchy
[08:08:12] * Konomi kicks crutchy vigorusly
[08:08:37] <crutchy> Konomi, you should at least buy me a drink first
[08:09:02] <crutchy> especially since i've got this pretty dress to wear
[08:14:55] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, are you a cross-dresser?
[08:15:34] <crutchy> not usually
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[09:09:17] <Subsentient> I'm thinking of posting a story asking everyone to help test Epoch before I release 1.2.0. I'd love to get final feedback and make any desired changes before I push it out the door. Think people would appreciate that or be annoyed?
[09:11:28] * Subsentient pokes crutchy
[09:11:43] * Subsentient pokes chromas
[09:11:49] * Subsentient pokes *!*@*
[09:11:52] <crutchy> seems like a good idea
[09:12:06] <crutchy> haters gunna hate
[09:12:15] <crutchy> is it easy to set up in a vbox?
[09:12:22] <Subsentient> I have an iso.
[09:12:27] <Subsentient> but it comes with 1.1
[09:13:20] <crutchy> to make it easiest as possible for people, i would recommend going as far as making a virtualbox appliance for download
[09:13:29] <Subsentient> arti: chromas Konomi TheMightyBuzzard juggs I need more opinions
[09:13:33] <crutchy> unless installation testing is what you're after
[09:13:46] <Subsentient> I'm after people putting it on their distros and booting it
[09:13:51] <Subsentient> you gotta be competent enough
[09:14:03] <crutchy> i would only try it in a vm
[09:14:18] <Subsentient> I'm typing this on a system running from Epoch git/master.
[09:15:19] <crutchy> i need to install virtualbox on my desktop anyway (i have a dev vm for my work app that i wanna get going)
[09:15:28] <crutchy> i can maybe have a go at epoch
[09:15:37] <crutchy> i'm prolly not competent though
[09:28:44] <crutchy> got vbox installed
[09:36:38] <Konomi> @shttps://i.imgur.com/aZsCOB7.jpg
[09:36:41] <Konomi> ops
[09:36:42] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com
[09:37:34] <Konomi> Subsentient: I'll vm it if you want maybe test it on actual hardware
[09:37:39] <Konomi> bored most of the time anyway
[09:37:54] <ar> huh
[09:38:01] <ar> https://wiki.hackerspace.pl
[09:38:03] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03projects:hswan [hackerspace-pl]
[09:38:17] <ar> i have bgp over openvpn on my router now \o/
[09:38:46] <Subsentient> Konomi: Thanks
[09:39:03] <Subsentient> Konomi: Yeh, just git clone https://github.com
[09:39:04] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03301 Moved Permanently ( https://github.com )
[09:40:01] <Konomi> shame I don't have my really old toshiba laptop to fire it up on for a real terrifying test ;p
[09:46:32] <Konomi> Subsentient: does this parse init scripts at all?
[09:46:46] <Subsentient> Konomi: you mean sysv style? No.
[09:46:56] <Subsentient> It has its own config file format.
[09:47:01] <Konomi> hmm so I presume vbox extensions will explode?
[09:47:20] <Subsentient> Konomi: http://universe2.us
[09:47:20] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Epoch Init System - Configuration Documentation
[09:47:35] <Subsentient> Konomi: nahh.
[09:47:45] <Subsentient> just add a service to start that script
[09:48:09] <Konomi> I don't see any pre services does that presume that once installed I'd need to create a lot of them?
[09:48:29] <Subsentient> Konomi: I have a couple example configs
[09:48:40] <Subsentient> Konomi: http://universe2.us
[09:48:56] <Konomi> okay
[09:49:15] <Konomi> ObjectStartCommand=/etc/epoch/scripts/udev.sh
[09:49:22] <Konomi> that ain't going to work lol
[09:49:51] <Subsentient> Konomi: Also this
[09:49:52] <Subsentient> http://universe2.us
[09:49:56] <Konomi> this will be difficult to test past a basic shell
[09:49:57] <Subsentient> That's more up-to-date
[09:50:13] <Subsentient> Konomi: well there's another way
[09:50:23] <Subsentient> you could download my distro and update it to git/master
[09:50:43] <Subsentient> Konomi: https://www.dropbox.com
[09:50:44] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Dropbox - SubLinux2-Final-05-16-2014.i586.iso
[09:51:08] <Subsentient> make just ONE partition, gpt or msdos partition table, set the boot flag for msdos and legacy_boot for gpt
[09:51:09] <Konomi> might try that instead
[09:51:27] <Subsentient> Konomi: know how to use GNU parted?
[09:51:30] <Konomi> yeah
[09:51:33] <Subsentient> Good.
[09:51:35] <Subsentient> you'll be fine
[09:51:40] <Subsentient> read on-screen instructions carefully
[09:51:42] <Subsentient> installer is touchy
[09:52:01] <Subsentient> Just a cheap shell script.
[09:52:15] <Konomi> would I be horrified if I looked ;p
[09:52:32] <Subsentient> Probably.
[09:53:00] <Subsentient> but one thing I do not regret is my love for squashfs filesystems.
[09:55:39] * Konomi nods
[09:55:42] <Subsentient> Konomi: Epoch has support for multiple and single configuration files.
[09:55:53] <Subsentient> myself I prefer single config file
[09:55:58] <Subsentient> something wrong? /etc/epoch/epoch.conf
[09:56:04] <Subsentient> end of story
[09:56:15] <Subsentient> then a search function.
[10:01:45] <crutchy> Konomi++ # goddess of shelldom
[10:01:45] <Bender> karma - konomi: 36
[10:02:18] <crutchy> i'm still fumbling around trying to get a usb drive to mount :/
[10:03:12] <Subsentient> crutchy: How so?
[10:07:02] <crutchy> cos i'm a dumarse
[10:16:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Magic of Pallets - http://sylnt.us - and-no-patents!
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[12:24:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:24:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 929
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[12:39:33] <chromas> from the freedom-to-fear dept
[12:51:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[12:51:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that
[12:53:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh, i don't wanna code today but it needs to be done or we're not going to be ready for release.
[13:00:44] <chromas> ~spawn perl minions
[13:01:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i wish. not seen any action from any of them yet.
[13:02:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> understandable cause of the holidays but still would be nice.
[13:07:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;klingon coffee++
[13:07:23] <botctl> TheMightyBuzzard: qa'vIn (?????? )
[13:07:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, forgot to fix that
[13:15:57] <Subsentient> Welp it's official
[13:16:03] <Subsentient> I have released Epoch 1.2.0 Peroxide.
[13:16:22] <Subsentient> I haven't updated the site yet, but it's all tagged and tarred up and whatnot
[13:16:25] <Subsentient> just updated the servers to it
[13:16:29] <Subsentient> reexec was painless.
[13:22:17] <chromas> Now you gotta write docs :)
[13:22:29] <Subsentient> yeah...
[13:22:34] <Subsentient> And make release notes.
[13:22:42] <Subsentient> And bother people into trying it.
[13:23:13] <Subsentient> that's why I'm putting off the official announcement until tomorrow :^D
[13:24:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> epoch was your init system, yeah?
[13:24:25] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: yeh
[13:24:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool beans
[13:25:10] <Subsentient> well gn for now
[13:27:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.breitbart.com
[13:27:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03What is 'manspreading' and why are people angry about it? - Breitbart
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[13:31:06] <chromas> How do you Lose Terminal with tmux/screen?
[13:31:07] <ciri> very carefully and then some
[13:31:12] <chromas> ah
[13:31:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> repeatedly hit the server it's running on with a hammer
[13:33:04] <chromas> that woman looks pregnant
[13:33:29] <chromas> of course, it's always, /always/ wise to ask a women when she's due, no matter how fat or stickly she is
[13:33:55] <chromas> also terrible hair
[13:34:48] <Subsentient> I can't sleep. I'll sit here and bother you guys.
[13:35:02] <Subsentient> $burrito chromas
[13:35:02] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas
[13:35:07] <Subsentient> $burrito TheMightyBuzzard
[13:35:07] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at TheMightyBuzzard
[13:35:09] * chromas munches
[13:35:21] <chromas> Say, what's in thie $burrito?
[13:35:46] <Subsentient> chromas: Gerbil puke and broken glass.
[13:35:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, 💩
[13:35:56] <chromas> Ah, the daily special
[13:36:06] * chromas munches
[13:36:46] <Subsentient> chromas: Can I rope you into playing a game of Warzone 2100?
[13:36:52] <Subsentient> It's a nice little FOSS RTS
[13:38:01] <chromas> installing
[13:38:14] <Subsentient> chromas: :^D
[13:38:30] <chromas> :(
[13:38:33] <chromas> I give in too easily
[13:38:33] <Subsentient> chromas: If you get good I can let you join my clan
[13:38:40] <chromas> Soon, tmb will have me eating perl too
[13:38:49] <Subsentient> http://moepp.universe2.us
[13:38:50] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03MOEPP Clan - Manufactured on equipment which processes peanuts
[13:39:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i did stick a few lines in each burrito now that you mention it
[13:39:33] <chromas> oh shit
[13:39:40] * chromas burps a regex
[13:39:41] <Subsentient> Yeah not sure if I wanna relearn my python or work on pearl
[13:40:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> we could definitely use another perl worker on staff but we're short on good python devs for bender tweakage as well.
[13:40:47] <chromas> being_staff--
[13:40:47] <Bender> karma - being_staff: -1
[13:40:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, you get your stuff cleared up and officially get all editory?
[13:41:29] <Subsentient> I'd be able to deal with it now, yes, but I haven't done so yet.
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[13:41:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> slacker =P
[13:41:47] <chromas> nah it was all a ruse just to get aqu4 opped in irc :D
[13:42:12] <chromas> Subsentient: how's the mucus?
[13:42:32] <Subsentient> chromas: Delicious
[13:42:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno why he's opped anyhow. juggler's the only one who really needs to be.
[13:42:38] <Subsentient> And fresh!
[13:42:48] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: for fun and profit
[13:42:53] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Because aqu4's awesome and because I can do this
[13:42:55] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick TheMightyBuzzard
[13:42:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right then
[13:42:55] <aqu4> Ok.
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[13:43:09] <Subsentient> :^3
[13:43:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> you could also do this already though
[13:43:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> .kick Subsentient
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[13:43:22] * chromas stands by for a spankin'
[13:43:28] <chromas> took too long to type
[13:43:43] <chromas> no auto-join?
[13:43:58] <chromas> .kickban chromas
[13:44:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nexus bug
[13:44:29] <chromas> (not authorized)
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[13:45:00] <chromas> must be
[13:45:05] <chromas> had to do a full reconnect
[13:45:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> thar we go
[13:45:20] <Subsentient> Had to pull a 'sudo epoch restart nexus_soy' on the server.
[13:45:34] <chromas> found a bug?
[13:45:36] <Subsentient> Yeh
[13:45:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, sorry bout that. gives ya something to do today though
[13:45:47] <chromas> blame bytram, of course
[13:46:20] <Subsentient> it throttles channel joins if you are already in that channel, but as a result, since it doesn't register kicks, it just silently eats your attempts to rejoin
[13:46:57] * Subsentient is detecting high quantities of fffffuuuuu in this sector
[13:47:07] <Subsentient> chromas: got WZ installed?
[13:47:19] <chromas> yep, checked all the options and waiting in the lobby
[13:47:29] * TheMightyBuzzard pokes his head back into slashcode
[13:47:41] * chromas sheds a tear for TheMightyBuzzard
[13:47:49] <Subsentient> $wz
[13:47:49] <aqu4> 3[1 of 2] Name: Gerbil swarm | Map: Paradigm-T1 | Host: SubSen(MOEPP) | Players: 2/4 | IP: 216.161.165.96 | Version: 3.1.1
[13:47:50] <aqu4> 4[2 of 2] Name: TEAM TOURNAMENT | Map: pandorumby-T1 | Host: RBMW-Fenrir | Players: 4/4 | IP: 91.76.240.132 | Version: 3.1.1
[13:47:50] <Subsentient> chromas:
[14:00:10] <Subsentient> chromas: you here?
[14:00:39] <chromas> yeah I'm building
[14:00:44] <chromas> right edge
[14:01:02] <chromas> not sure how resources work
[14:01:08] <chromas> since I seem to be able to just build
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[14:25:42] <Subsentient> chromas: ok then
[14:25:56] <Subsentient> close and reopen WZ through its menu
[14:26:03] <Subsentient> and your window will be the right size on next launchy
[14:27:36] <Subsentient> $burrito chromas
[14:27:36] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas
[14:27:53] <chromas> lookin' through the keybindings
[14:28:06] <Subsentient> kk
[14:28:43] <Subsentient> chromas: Sorry your first experience was learn-on-the-fly but we'll show you more.
[14:28:50] <Subsentient> chromas: on the main menu, there is a tutorial
[14:28:59] <Subsentient> chromas: I suggest you take it.
[14:29:02] <chromas> nah it's cool
[14:29:06] <Subsentient> kk
[14:29:17] <chromas> well that nah was for a couple messages up
[14:29:18] <Subsentient> yeh it doesn't teach anything I can't teach you
[14:29:25] <Subsentient> ahh
[14:29:26] <Subsentient> ok
[14:29:39] <Subsentient> chromas: the tutorial will clear up any elemental flaws in understanding
[14:30:03] <Subsentient> the artifacts thing for research doesn't exist as such in multiplayer
[14:30:14] <Subsentient> in multiplayer you just research stuff until you get what you want
[14:31:16] <chromas> ah, this is much better; I can see!
[14:32:41] <Subsentient> chromas: so, ready for the training session?
[14:34:49] <chromas> doing the little tutorial
[14:35:00] <chromas> wasn't there a key to speed it up?
[14:35:41] <chromas> oh duh
[14:35:50] <chromas> power generators to power the derriks
[14:35:55] <Subsentient> chromas: yeh
[14:36:11] <chromas> I just thought it was a separate resource
[14:36:19] <Subsentient> only one resource in warzone
[14:36:22] <Subsentient> power/oil
[14:36:25] <Subsentient> they're the same thing
[14:40:32] <chromas> tutorial confused itself
[14:40:44] <chromas> kept telling me to add a gun to vehicle
[14:40:50] <chromas> when I closed it, it told me to close it
[14:40:55] <Subsentient> lol
[14:40:55] <ciri> rofl
[14:40:58] <Subsentient> yeh it's a little slow
[14:41:20] <Subsentient> chromas: but you got the idea eh?
[14:41:26] <chromas> yeah
[14:41:43] <chromas> I had built a new vehicle template before but it wasn't in the list of things to build
[14:41:44] <Subsentient> chromas: the best advice I can give you to fast-track your learning is always research, constantly, non-stop, as much as you can afford
[14:41:53] <chromas> until later. I needed another building I guess
[14:41:57] <Subsentient> yeh each game everything is reset
[14:42:04] <Subsentient> chromas: In many games you keep the base
[14:42:07] <Subsentient> in Warzone you do not
[14:42:11] <Subsentient> templates, tech, everything
[14:42:15] <Subsentient> lost after every match
[14:42:21] <Subsentient> you start from zero.
[14:42:30] <chromas> yeah
[14:42:48] <Subsentient> chromas: I'm going to host another game.
[14:42:51] <Subsentient> ready?
[14:42:53] <chromas> sounds like all the RTSs I've played :)
[14:43:09] <Subsentient> $wz
[14:43:09] <aqu4> 4[1 of 2] Name: LlLlL | Map: ClassicNTW3v3-T1 | Host: The zEus | Players: 6/6 8(private) | IP: 117.203.171.27 | Version: 3.1.1
[14:43:10] <aqu4> 3[2 of 2] Name: Gerbil swarm | Map: NTWFor4-v3-T1 | Host: SubSen(MOEPP) | Players: 1/4 | IP: 216.161.165.96 | Version: 3.1.1
[14:43:12] <chromas> k
[14:43:13] <Subsentient> chromas:
[14:48:21] <chromas> can't build trucks
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[14:58:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, mechanicjay
[15:00:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yays! finally figured out can_moderate was being checked when it should have been checking can_mod
[15:09:17] <Subsentient> chromas:
[15:09:33] <chromas> Subsentient: still no idea how to get back to building people
[15:09:41] <Subsentient> chromas: ahh
[15:09:56] <chromas> couldn't do trucks before. now it switched to only trucks
[15:10:07] <chromas> and it won't let me build my new design
[15:10:08] <Subsentient> hmm
[15:10:19] <Subsentient> chromas: what propulsion is your design?
[15:10:35] <chromas> vtol
[15:10:45] <Subsentient> chromas: You need special factories to make vtol
[15:10:55] <chromas> oh that's right
[15:10:58] <Subsentient> chromas: you can make hover, wheels, halftracks, tracks, but vtol requires a factory
[15:12:28] <chromas> ok I see, I need to switch the 'tab' at the bottom to switch to cyborgs
[15:12:38] <Subsentient> yeh
[15:13:21] <chromas> needs moar organization
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[15:17:46] <Blackmoore> mornin
[15:17:50] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:17:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 930
[15:22:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Blackmoore
[15:25:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:25:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 931
[15:27:20] <Blackmoore> hope one of the editors is around - work is gonna keep me busy today
[15:28:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, sub could be but he's been a slacker bout finishing up getting staff-ified
[15:35:18] <Blackmoore> hell - i didnt even see LamX in irc last week.
[15:36:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> drop him an email, sometimes he's not in an irc mood
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[16:05:20] <chromas> http://www.majestic12.co.uk
[16:05:21] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Majestic-12 : DSearch : MJ12bot
[16:05:33] <chromas> hadn't seen this in apache logs before
[16:07:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i'm done for the year.
[16:08:02] <chromas> ++vacation
[16:08:02] <Hedonismbot> Karma - vacation: 1
[16:08:12] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++
[16:08:12] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 125
[16:08:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> finished up the moderation rework but left out changing all the downmods to +0 mods
[16:09:10] <chromas> -0.5, Flamebait
[16:09:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> added +0 Disagree, +1 Touche, and -1 Spam
[16:09:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno if it'll do floats. likely not.
[16:09:53] <chromas> use fixed point. that's not a lot of work :D
[16:09:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> think the db column is set to int
[16:10:06] <chromas> multiply all the values by ten but internally divide by 10
[16:10:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm, could. be easier to change the column though
[16:10:23] <chromas> no Circlejerk mod?
[16:10:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, everything would get modded that
[16:10:43] <chromas> true
[16:10:56] <chromas> (+1, No shit, Sherlock)
[16:11:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> added the ability to moderate n post in the same discussion too, except for your own comments which is the bit i put in today.
[16:13:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and switched mod point giving out to everyone gets five points a day if they're willing to moderate at all
[16:14:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> proposal haters were going on about how the community could police itself given enough people with points, so EVERYBODY gets them and we'll do their experiment first.
[16:15:15] <chromas> Can I get ten points?
[16:15:17] <chromas> :D
[16:15:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> no points for joo
[16:15:30] <chromas> :'(
[16:15:42] <chromas> Make the number of points a function of the karmas
[16:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can have 50 on dev if you like
[16:15:50] <chromas> 1 point for every ten
[16:15:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, karma's a terrible metric
[16:15:58] <chromas> since my karma's 50 I'd still only get 5
[16:16:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> at least right now
[16:16:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> may raise max karma too though. that's just a db setting that can be done differently on live than on dev
[16:17:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> Science! - http://www.bbc.com
[16:17:18] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03BBC - Future - Why do we experience wind problems on planes?
[16:17:23] <chromas> I think karma needs a sink
[16:17:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> it may very well, yeah
[16:17:37] <chromas> Maybe if I read without commenting, then it drains a point every day or something
[16:17:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> people would just read AC then
[16:18:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> rather have them logged in
[16:18:12] <chromas> that sounds like a lot of work
[16:18:18] <chromas> clicking Logout
[16:18:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe just skim a point off every day or two.
[16:19:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, once a week. would take just under a year to go from 50 to zero that way
[16:20:29] <chromas> -5 when you logout to read
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[16:22:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, no dept on that for twitter
[16:22:06] <chromas> somebody took some notes
[16:22:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> music pirates prolly
[16:27:32] <chromas> seems like the better option would be to put the ventilation intakes on the floor under the seats
[16:27:41] <chromas> that way there's a downward draft
[16:28:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> or just eat lots of beans n such before boarding so you can fight back
[16:28:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> beans++
[16:28:30] <Bender> karma - beans: 1
[16:28:55] <chromas> fight farter with farter
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[21:16:24] <Subsentient> There. Updated NEXUS to not keep me out if I get kicked from a channel.
[21:16:28] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick Subsentient
[21:16:28] <aqu4> Ok.
[21:16:29] -!- Subsentient was kicked from #Soylent by aqu4!~aqu4bot@universe2.us/ircbot/aqu4 [Subsentient]
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[21:18:14] <Blackmoore> how's that working?
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[21:22:42] <Subsentient> $chanctl kick Subsentient
[21:22:43] <aqu4> Ok.
[21:22:43] -!- Subsentient was kicked from #Soylent by aqu4!~aqu4bot@universe2.us/ircbot/aqu4 [Subsentient]
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[21:22:58] <Subsentient> There we go.
[21:36:01] <crutchy> timectl
[21:36:45] <crutchy> mornin' Subsentient
[21:36:54] <Subsentient> crutchy: morning!
[21:37:00] <crutchy> sounds like tmb's kick was a sort of blessing in disguise
[21:37:09] <Subsentient> Actually using NEXUS to talk from the lobby PCs at my psychiatrist's lobby.
[21:37:29] <Subsentient> crutchy: yeah
[21:37:41] <crutchy> ask your psych if they'd like to test epoch
[21:38:47] * crutchy has never been to a psychiatrist, but if i did i imagine every sentence i said would be suffixed by "...with breasts"
[21:39:17] <crutchy> hmm not sure suffix is right there
[21:39:21] <crutchy> maybe appended
[21:41:15] <Blackmoore> "since last Wednesday" also works
[21:41:28] <Blackmoore> "and a side of fries"
[21:42:38] <Blackmoore> ""as proclaimed by our lord and saviours noodly appendage"
[21:45:13] <crutchy> or "without my pants"
[21:46:56] <Blackmoore> sorry Subsentient - I've been there. 2 years of talk therapy. and zoloft. things got better when the abusing GF left
[21:47:20] <Blackmoore> (well, that and a lot of other things)
[21:47:47] <Blackmoore> ok folks, out till tomorrow
[21:47:55] Blackmoore is now known as blackmoore|afk
[21:48:42] <crutchy> cheers blackmoore
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[22:25:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Librem Freedom-Oriented Notebook Near Halfway to Crowd Funding Goal - http://sylnt.us - shut-up-and-take-my-money
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[23:14:10] <crutchy> lesbian_gas++
[23:14:10] <Bender> karma - lesbian_gas: 1
[23:14:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i can't back ya on that. smells just as bad as my own.
[23:15:11] <chromas> it's got a higher energy density though
[23:15:27] <crutchy> and makes hydralisks
[23:15:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> hydralisks--
[23:15:50] <Bender> karma - hydralisks: -1
[23:15:57] <chromas> gives you a better stroke
[23:16:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> archons++
[23:16:05] <Bender> karma - archons: 1
[23:16:05] <chromas> engines++
[23:16:05] <Bender> karma - engines: 1
[23:16:35] <crutchy> never used archons much
[23:17:05] <crutchy> can't remember the name of the spidery looking protoss dude
[23:17:10] <crutchy> hydra-equiv
[23:17:21] <crutchy> dragoon
[23:17:33] <chromas> "I have returned"
[23:17:40] <crutchy> dragoon rush with extended range makes short work of most things
[23:18:32] <crutchy> for island maps, carriers++
[23:18:43] <crutchy> though they fkin expensive
[23:19:27] <crutchy> carriers not so great against ghosts though. damn lockdown
[23:21:08] <chromas> the arbiter's pretty kickass for islands
[23:21:32] <chromas> or hills
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[23:39:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Aw, fug...my Torbrowser says that it does not work.
[23:39:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Yet when I do a self-WHOIS check it shows my ip as an exit node.
[23:39:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Should I trust Tor now?
[23:45:14] <Ethanol-fueled> There are things going on right now. Spooky things.
[23:46:17] <chromas> well you probably don't want to be an exit node, anyhow
[23:47:15] <Ethanol-fueled> well, all traffic goes out the exit nodes, so is it working as expected?
[23:47:21] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't run an exit node.
[23:47:58] <chromas> try what's my ip site and see if the ip they show matches yours
[23:48:14] <chromas> heh, bing has its own now
[23:48:15] <Ethanol-fueled> it doesn't chromas. The whois showed a Tor exit node in france.
[23:48:31] <chromas> bing++
[23:48:31] <Bender> karma - bing: 2
[23:48:34] <chromas> ++bing
[23:48:34] <Hedonismbot> Karma - bing: 1
[23:49:29] <Ethanol-fueled> bing--
[23:49:29] <Bender> karma - bing: 1
[23:49:42] <Ethanol-fueled> bing--
[23:49:42] <Bender> karma - bing: 0
[23:49:53] <Ethanol-fueled> VIRAL BING MARKETING
[23:50:01] <chromas> it's the best porn search engine ever created
[23:50:27] <chromas> plus Hairyfeet promotes it so you know it's good
[23:50:42] <Ethanol-fueled> > 2014
[23:50:49] <Ethanol-fueled> > using a search engine for porn
[23:50:59] <Ethanol-fueled> > not going directly to Xhamster
[23:51:04] <chromas> it works just like an image viewer
[23:51:23] <chromas> it also does motherless, xvideos and stuff
[23:51:26] <Ethanol-fueled> xhamster and VLC put the santa hat on their logos during the Holidays
[23:51:41] <Ethanol-fueled> motherless has cleaned up its act a lot the past year
[23:52:06] <Ethanol-fueled> but Xhamster is my fave
[23:53:04] <Ethanol-fueled> xHamster has the B*****t and B******t C***s up in the fattest B*****s
[23:53:37] <Ethanol-fueled> P*****g the p**k s***s out like concertinas.
[23:54:20] <chromas> ***** ***** * ******* * ***** ** *** ****** the ***** curtains **** *** rhinos ****** snow *** *********** **** pig ******* **** oranges
[23:54:28] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahaha
[23:54:31] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas++
[23:54:31] <Bender> karma - chromas: 61
[23:55:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Dang, I'd hate to wonder what's going on with that pig and those oranges.
[23:56:22] <chromas> lolctl http://soylentnews.org
[23:56:22] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[23:56:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - North Korea's Internet is Having Serious Problems - http://sylnt.us - for-i-in-i
[23:57:06] <chromas> from the wink-wink-nudge-nudge dept
[23:57:23] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, a ping -f from my box could take out North Korea's internets.
[23:57:46] <chromas> b-b-b-ut they h4x0rzed our Sonys
[23:57:48] <Ethanol-fueled> and my download speed tops out at around 125-ish k/sec.
[23:58:10] <chromas> your upload speed would be the one to check for that
[23:58:11] <Ethanol-fueled> I wonder if they attempted and failed to assassinate Kim Jong Un.
[23:58:22] <Ethanol-fueled> he was MIA for awhile, but recently reappeared in public.
[23:58:31] <Ethanol-fueled> I know chromas, but just for reference.
[23:58:51] <chromas> are you sure it was him? I heard they all look alike
[23:58:57] <chromas> oops, did I say that out loud?
[23:59:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Do ho hoooo!