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[00:03:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - IRS Warns of Possible Shutdowns - http://sylnt.us - only-things-you-can-count-on
[00:08:52] <crutchy> ciri++
[00:08:52] <Bender> karma - ciri: -28
[00:09:50] <chr> poor ciri; situation needs to be erectified
[00:10:00] <chr> ++ciri
[00:10:00] <Hedonismbot> Karma - ciri: 5
[00:10:37] <chr> heh, I should make monopory track karma++ too but just not announce it
[00:10:51] <chr> sekret_karmas++
[00:10:51] <Bender> karma - sekret_karmas: 1
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[00:15:09] <ar> karma--
[00:15:09] <Bender> karma - karma: 14
[00:15:37] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: gin is great with tonic
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[00:31:51] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Subsentient] by juggler
[00:40:53] <JamesNZ> Hey Subsentient :)
[00:41:11] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Hey. Apparently NEXUS crashed because my internet went down./
[00:41:20] <Subsentient> To be expected.
[00:41:33] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Ah.
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[00:49:27] <chr> http://techcrunch.com
[00:49:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03This Little USB Necklace Hacks Your Computer In No Time Flat | TechCrunch
[00:50:05] <chr> Hooray for session locking
[00:53:36] <chr> Every new vulnerability needs a logo (and the website needs jarvisscript) http://mis.fortunecook.ie
[00:53:37] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Misfortune Cookie by Check Point
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[01:25:15] * Konomi blargs
[01:25:27] * SpallsHurgenson snarfles
[01:28:56] * juggs flumps
[01:29:23] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, nsfw!
[01:29:34] * Konomi gets the camera
[01:29:44] <Konomi> I smell black mail material
[01:29:46] <juggs> ~define flump
[01:29:47] <Konomi> ;p
[01:29:48] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Flump: The act of standing back to back with a friend, excreting simultaneously to produce an entwined lump of faecal matter which resembles a Flump marshmellow.
[01:29:55] <Konomi> ....
[01:29:57] <Konomi> eww
[01:30:02] <juggs> OH MY! I didn't know that definition]
[01:30:09] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, I didn't know that was a real thing
[01:30:17] <Konomi> juggs you weirdo ;p
[01:30:43] <SpallsHurgenson> ~define blarg
[01:30:44] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3Blarg: Blarg is a unique word, being the only word that not only means anything you want it to, or is used to show disinterest or boredom, but also is the only word that thousands upon thousands of people ha...
[01:30:49] <chr> marshmellow. The relaxed kind of marsh
[01:31:06] <juggs> For flump I was meaning more this definition:
[01:31:10] <juggs> flump/flʌmp/
[01:31:10] <juggs> verb
[01:31:10] <juggs> fall or sit down heavily.
[01:31:22] <chr> ah, like a plop
[01:31:28] <chr> \~define plop
[01:31:37] <Konomi> !grab chr
[01:31:37] <Bender> Added quote 312
[01:31:37] <SpallsHurgenson> I thought you meant http://en.wikipedia.org
[01:31:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Wiki: Flumph
[01:31:40] <Konomi> \o/
[01:31:45] <Konomi> error aquired
[01:38:13] <Subsentient> This is why I hate Urban Dictionary
[01:38:18] <Subsentient> every definition there is gross.
[01:38:28] <Konomi> what do you expect from the species ;p
[01:39:13] <Konomi> "i had a dream last night that i was a castaway on a raft that somehow had wifi and i was tweeting you guys to come find me in the ocean #wut"
[01:39:16] <Konomi> that's an odd dream
[01:39:53] * SpallsHurgenson imagines a raft with an immensely huge spool of cat5
[01:40:24] <Subsentient> SpallsHurgenson: hah
[01:40:49] <Konomi> the longest leesh evar
[01:40:49] <Subsentient> I been enjoying the Nodoka GTK theme.
[01:42:11] <Subsentient> http://universe2.us
[01:42:50] <SpallsHurgenson> so... very... blue
[01:44:48] <juggs> I applaud the directory labelled simply "Crap" :D
[01:45:06] <Subsentient> heh I expected someone would remark on that
[01:45:32] <Konomi> it's like it's 2001 all over again
[01:45:35] <Subsentient> juggs: That's where I drag the contents of my desktop when it gets too cluttered.
[01:46:02] <juggs> Subsentient, I do similar. Then a few months later end up going in there and binning ~90% of it :D
[01:46:24] <Subsentient> I don't have a trash can. My delete key deletes.
[01:46:48] <juggs> I should probably do that, I alway shift-Del anyway
[01:46:51] <SpallsHurgenson> wait, wait, wait... we can DELETE files?
[01:46:57] <Subsentient> lol
[01:47:16] <Konomi> http://instagram.com
[01:47:17] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Instagram
[01:47:20] <juggs> no no - we can SpallsHurgenson, self confessed hoarders like you.... not so much
[01:47:25] <Konomi> "make them shut up"
[01:47:41] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, well damn... guess I need another couple 4TB drives then
[01:47:45] <juggs> nice - blank white page without scripts
[01:48:23] <SpallsHurgenson> hah, I get a cute flashblock icon and some blue links! :)
[01:48:58] <Subsentient> http://youtu.be
[01:48:59] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Men Without Hats - The Safety Dance (1982) - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[01:50:22] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, c'mon; you gotta show the terrible music video http://www.dailymotion.com
[01:50:23] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Men Without Hats-The Safety Dance - Video Dailymotion
[01:51:06] <SpallsHurgenson> somebody should redo that video with clips from Game of Thrones
[01:58:51] <SpallsHurgenson> it's windows, there are open source alternatives and its proprietary, but it's also free so what the hell, might as well download it http://www.videoconverterfactory.com :)
[01:58:52] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03WonderFox Christmas Gift Pack
[02:00:27] * SpallsHurgenson downloads and sticks into the archive, never to be looked at again :)
[02:01:59] <Konomi> you pack rat ;p
[02:02:07] <SpallsHurgenson> look, just because
[02:02:25] <Konomi> gotta get one of those invention shows going
[02:03:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I have Firefox 1.0, 10.3, 1.03.1, 1.05, 1.5, 1.5.0.7, and so on until the most recent versions doesn't make me a packrat :)
[02:04:39] <Konomi> instead of them making pile sutff on your front lawn though
[02:04:46] <Konomi> they'll bring in like raid attached storage
[02:04:53] <Konomi> slowly move all those files you never use onto it
[02:05:01] <Konomi> then at the end of hte show they'll be like rm -rf with verbose on
[02:05:09] <Konomi> watching all that hording vanish line by line
[02:05:42] <SpallsHurgenson> nooooooooooooooooo!
[02:07:03] <SpallsHurgenson> don't let them delete my DOS 4.0 TSRs!
[02:08:02] <swiss> Konomi: it'd be better with some sleeps
[02:08:57] <swiss> for i in `find -type f /data`; do echo "Say goodbye to $i!"; rm -f $i; echo "Goodbye $i"; sleep 1; done
[02:10:42] <Konomi> sleep 0.400s would probably be handier
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[02:10:51] <Konomi> if we used 1 second for SpallsHurgenson might be there the rest of our lives
[02:11:07] <SpallsHurgenson> not DragonLinux 0.75!
[02:11:35] * chr hides the undelete utilities from SpallsHurgenson
[02:12:26] <swiss> Konomi: oh, lemme revise my script
[02:12:45] <Konomi> it needs a lot of revision
[02:12:51] <swiss> for i in `find -type f /data`; do echo "Say goodbye to $i!"; rm -f $i; echo "Goodbye $i"; sleep 1; done && dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[02:12:52] <Konomi> for one you're passing a huge arse array to for
[02:13:00] <swiss> for can handle it
[02:13:08] <swiss> i could be doing it with find -exec
[02:13:10] <swiss> but i'm lazy
[02:13:27] <SpallsHurgenson> not my archived emails and usenet posts from 1992!
[02:13:34] <Konomi> you do know you'd be passing every single file path in one large string to for right ;p
[02:13:55] <swiss> i think they come as individual variables
[02:13:58] <swiss> if not....
[02:14:08] <swiss> find -type f /data | while read line; do echo "Say goodbye to $i!"; rm -f $i; echo "Goodbye $i"; sleep 1; done && dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[02:14:24] <swiss> wait, fuck, i need to revise again
[02:14:26] <Konomi> you're gonna zero fill too much harsh
[02:14:37] <swiss> { find -type f /data | while read line; do echo "Say goodbye to $i!"; rm -f $i; echo "Goodbye $i"; sleep 1; done } && dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[02:14:43] <swiss> that is how {} works, right?
[02:15:05] <chr> toss in mplayer with Madonna's I'll Say Goodbye as a background jerb
[02:15:06] <SpallsHurgenson> not my .ini file for Windows 3.0 Calc.exe
[02:15:10] <Konomi> if you're subshell in {} faills dd isn't going to execute ;pp
[02:15:56] <swiss> but it won't fail
[02:16:00] <swiss> cause it's perfect
[02:16:08] <Konomi> better off defining a temporary function and passing it to finds exec
[02:16:18] <swiss> effort
[02:16:29] <swiss> effort and whether i have to look at a manpage
[02:16:43] <swiss> i don't have find's exec 100% memorized, but i know other parts of bash
[02:16:46] <chr> put the whole thing in memory so it has to swap to disk
[02:17:00] <Konomi> rm_file() { rm -f
[02:17:09] <Konomi> pft stupid enter key ~
[02:17:53] <Konomi> rm_file() { rm -f "$@"; echo "Deleted $@" }; find -type -f . -exec rm_file '{}' \;
[02:17:56] <Konomi> something like that
[02:18:03] <swiss> gotta make it more personal
[02:18:12] <swiss> even better, make him hit a button each time
[02:18:26] <Konomi> and I thought I was sadistic ;p
[02:18:32] <swiss> so he can be stuck in place forever, or tap a button for every file
[02:18:51] <swiss> only have his finger over the button, his eyes propped open, and the rest of him strapped down
[02:18:57] <chr> don't give him a chance to ^C though
[02:19:05] <swiss> nono, only one button of course
[02:19:16] <SpallsHurgenson> you people are monsters!
[02:19:16] <swiss> or you could just handle ctrl+c in bash
[02:19:30] <swiss> did you know you could do that in scripts? Prevent ctrl+c?
[02:19:33] <swiss> totes can
[02:19:39] <chr> SpallsHurgenson: you will press Y for the rest of your days
[02:19:49] <chr> oh, is this #disney?
[02:20:27] <swiss> hm?
[02:20:42] <SpallsHurgenson> let's see... what's the delay between deletes again?
[02:21:04] <swiss> depends on how we feel
[02:21:16] <swiss> even better, we'll randomize it between 1 and 10
[02:21:17] <Konomi> just trap it
[02:21:33] <Konomi> SpallsHurgenson: 0.400s ;p
[02:22:02] <swiss> Konomi: randomization and he has to hit the button
[02:22:05] <SpallsHurgenson> well, that'll get me nowhere near forever!
[02:22:16] <swiss> then he doesn't know if he's going to delete it or not
[02:22:28] <swiss> but he'll feel the pain of deleting it each time he presses the button
[02:22:33] <chr> what's the delay do if he has to okay each delete?
[02:22:35] <swiss> but if it fails, he feels the pay twice
[02:22:45] <swiss> chr: mental
[02:22:58] <swiss> he could either force himself to wait 10 seconds between every delete
[02:23:04] <chr> wouldn't it be infinite delay if he doesn't press it?
[02:23:07] <swiss> or press it early
[02:23:13] <swiss> but then he's stuck there forever
[02:24:37] <chr> strap an iphone to him too; use the accelerometers to affect the speed when he wriggles around trying to get out
[02:24:41] <SpallsHurgenson> why, even if it's 10 seconds delay +2 seconds to actually delete for each file, I'd be done withthe software archive by middle of February!
[02:24:43] <chr> plus he'll be stuck with an iphone
[02:25:31] <chr> SpallsHurgenson: at the end, the script will say "Psyche! (it's 1993 again) These 50,000 files weren't actually deleted. Let's try again"
[02:27:30] <SpallsHurgenson> so... my files AREN'T deleted and I get an iphone? yay! :)
[02:35:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Macbook to Chromebook - No Regrets - http://sylnt.us - Penny-Gadget
[02:35:41] <chr> from the hipster-detected dept
[02:45:42] <juggs> Hmm... https://blog.torproject.org
[02:45:43] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Possible upcoming attempts to disable the Tor network | The Tor Blog
[02:46:37] <Konomi> troublesome heading I shall read that in a big
[02:46:39] <Konomi> bit*
[02:46:59] <Konomi> oh they're going after the DAs...
[02:47:08] <juggs> yup
[02:47:27] <Konomi> pretty much the DNS root servers of tor heh
[02:47:29] <juggs> interesting to know how tor project got advanced notice of it if so
[02:47:57] <Konomi> who knows
[02:48:09] <Konomi> a lot of black hats enjoy gloating too much
[02:51:40] <crutchy> Konomi, can you recommend a good anime?
[02:51:47] <Konomi> boku no pico
[02:51:47] <juggs> There's some speculation on the blagoshpere it may be to do with investigating the Sony hack - not sire why that would involve the DAs though... all seems a bit odd
[02:51:50] <swiss> Welcome to the NHK
[02:51:55] <SpallsHurgenson> ghost in the shell 2
[02:52:10] <Konomi> trust me you want boku no pico it will change your life
[02:52:11] <swiss> i recently acquired some vintage TGiTS posters
[02:52:41] <crutchy> i heard of that one
[02:53:03] <Konomi> standard troll anime don't watch it
[02:53:06] <Konomi> was half joking
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[02:53:13] <Konomi> it's a really really fucked up anime ;p
[02:53:16] <Konomi> and definitly nsfw
[02:53:19] <crutchy> i just finished watching Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo
[02:53:31] <Konomi> besides troll animes no point asking me
[02:53:39] <crutchy> it was really good
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[02:53:45] <Konomi> every guy who I have compared anime shows with hasn't seen any I have
[02:53:53] <SpallsHurgenson> those ghibli hills movies are fun too; I liked tortoro
[02:53:54] <Konomi> since I don't watch a lot of action anime
[02:54:18] <Konomi> watch watamote
[02:54:19] <Konomi> ;p
[02:54:30] <crutchy> the one i watched was a high school hardships/romance/outcast series
[02:55:24] <crutchy> prolly more of a chick flick, but meh it was interesting
[02:56:28] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[02:56:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Watamote! Opening Full Song (HD) + MP3 - YouTube
[02:58:24] <Konomi> youtube is getting so bad for take downs
[02:58:32] <Konomi> hard to find even OPs and EDs of anime now
[03:00:45] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[03:00:45] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo ED「DAYS of DASH Instrumental」 - YouTube
[03:01:11] <crutchy> i been listening to a few from this show
[03:01:31] <crutchy> easy listening
[03:07:34] <crutchy> might have a squiz at watamote
[03:11:06] <swiss> watamote was too painful to watch
[03:11:09] <swiss> the OP was awesome though
[03:12:14] <Konomi> that social akwardness is not for all lol
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[03:28:29] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[03:28:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> long day
[03:33:49] <crutchy> working?
[03:33:53] <crutchy> ~time TheMightyBuzzard
[03:33:55] <exec> Friday, 19 December 2014 @ 9:33 pm CST - Ada, OK, USA
[03:34:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, christmas shopping and then attempting to make bacon pralines
[03:34:31] <crutchy> ~define praline
[03:34:32] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3pralines: Confection commonly used for ice cream... often made of sugar, nuts, and other goodies.
[03:34:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> got halfway through and the second pot of praline gook ended up caramel instead of pralines
[03:34:52] <crutchy> bacon ice cream. why didn't i think of that?
[03:34:57] <chr> nothin' like dippin' yer nuts in bacon
[03:35:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> no ice cream, mostly half-caramelized sugar
[03:35:40] <crutchy> i've had scrogen on walking trips before, but never heard of pralines
[03:36:00] <chr> 0.0
[03:36:06] <crutchy> ~define scrogen
[03:36:08] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3scrogen: a mixture of nuts, lollies, dried fruit and other items of food that you take with you when you go hiking. It is an energy mix.
[03:36:12] <crutchy> maybe its another name for pralines
[03:36:27] <Konomi> "Not only am I still using my Chromebook, now my business and family do too. Swapping out of Apple’s walled garden for Google’s fenced yard was the right move."
[03:36:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.google.com
[03:36:32] <Konomi> that's a pretty apt comparassion
[03:36:33] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03pralines - Google Search
[03:37:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, pretty much is
[03:37:12] <chr> I thought chromebooks were full-size underpowered netbooks
[03:37:25] <chr> or are they better than that?
[03:37:54] <crutchy> i read they supposed to be pretty decent, but i not used one myself
[03:38:07] <crutchy> microsoft hates them so they can't be too bad
[03:38:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> they can be as fast as ya want em to but you can't hardly store jack shit locally. all cloud stuff.
[03:38:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> linux > chromeos
[03:38:48] <crutchy> can you plug usb hard drives etc into them?
[03:39:03] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[03:39:19] <crutchy> they might have a small amount of local flash storage like phones
[03:39:31] <crutchy> but rely on removable for the rest
[03:39:59] <chr> unless it's an iphone
[03:40:02] <chr> or google phone
[03:40:15] <chr> no SD card (soup) for you!
[03:41:24] <crutchy> there's google phones?
[03:41:35] <chr> the nexus series
[03:41:41] <crutchy> ah
[03:41:45] <crutchy> samsung++
[03:41:45] <Bender> karma - samsung: -2
[03:41:57] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[03:41:57] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Chromebook (Chrome OS) for Beginners - YouTube
[03:42:00] <Konomi> might be interesting
[03:42:15] <crutchy> wonder how long it will take them to get tizen to take over the world
[03:42:46] <crutchy> esp if china, india and russia embrace it
[03:44:17] <Konomi> I have gripes about the keyboard tbh
[03:44:26] <Konomi> main turn off for chrome os really
[03:45:38] <chr> need F-keys
[03:45:49] <chr> and a caps lock to convert to compose
[03:46:48] <chr> chrome_internet++
[03:46:48] <Bender> karma - chrome_internet: 1
[03:47:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> compose? ctrl-shift-u n a hex value, you slacker.
[03:47:12] <chr> only works in gtk
[03:47:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> works in console
[03:47:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> so essentially everywhere but kde?
[03:47:45] <chr> in console you can do the classic alt-number too
[03:48:35] <chr> I do wish KDE would do that. That's the only fault KDE's ever had in its entire life
[03:55:27] <Konomi> "you can never save anything to the chrome os desktop"
[03:55:30] <Konomi> fucking. good.
[03:56:23] <chr> The proper way is to store everything in the recyculator
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[05:23:32] <crutchy> chr, s/recy/per/
[05:23:32] <SedNotABot> <crutchy> <chr> The proper way is to store everything in the perculator
[05:23:48] <crutchy> ++coffee
[05:23:48] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 200
[05:24:45] <juggs> ++
[05:24:55] <juggs> ++.
[05:24:55] <Hedonismbot> Karma - .: 1
[05:25:07] <juggs> ++D
[05:25:08] <Hedonismbot> Karma - d: 1
[05:25:19] <Subsentient> +++
[05:25:19] <Hedonismbot> Karma - +: 5
[05:25:22] <juggs> ++)
[05:25:22] <Hedonismbot> Karma - ): 1
[05:25:28] <Subsentient> ++++
[05:25:28] <Hedonismbot> Karma - ++: 0
[05:25:30] <juggs> ++(
[05:25:31] <Hedonismbot> Karma - (: 1
[05:25:31] <Subsentient> ++-++
[05:25:31] <Hedonismbot> Karma - -++: 1
[05:25:35] <Subsentient> -++
[05:25:37] <Subsentient> ++-++
[05:25:37] <Hedonismbot> Karma - -++: 2
[05:25:42] <Subsentient> ++++
[05:25:42] <Hedonismbot> Karma - ++: 1
[05:26:42] <juggs> ++>
[05:26:42] <Hedonismbot> Karma - >: 1
[05:31:48] <SpallsHurgenson> well... I can see I missed an exciting night's conversation :)
[05:34:06] <juggs> riveting
[05:35:20] <juggs> patchy patchy https://ics-cert.us-cert.gov
[05:35:20] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Network Time Protocol Vulnerabilities | ICS-CERT
[05:35:44] <SpallsHurgenson> I wonder how long before Amazon gets majorly hacked
[05:37:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Beatles, Bob Dylan and the 50-Year Copyright Itch - http://sylnt.us - vault
[05:53:33] <exec> 13test broadcast
[05:53:56] <SpallsHurgenson> I see notink. NOTINK!
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[07:04:37] <crutchy> wow dude http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN comment by The Mighty Buzzard (18)
[07:04:54] <crutchy> $beer TheMightyBuzzard
[07:04:55] * aqu4 gives TheMightyBuzzard a cold can of beer
[07:05:41] <crutchy> its all good mate. chuck another meat pie on the kangaroo snatch
[07:54:42] <Konomi> https://dausonstimpsongagnon.files.wordpress.com
[07:56:58] <chr> For all we know, he did have a stutter
[07:57:30] <SirFinkus> he didn't in that mel gibson documentary about him
[07:57:45] <Konomi> we can trust mel he tells it like it is
[07:57:45] <chr> Plus he was contradicting the entire old testament
[07:58:03] <Konomi> son of god probably gets to contridict anything some dudes wrote
[07:58:04] <chr> Mel is jewish, just like Jesus
[07:58:44] <chr> Random dude walking around who people just decided was the son of god
[07:59:22] <chr> Plus he was a mudblood
[07:59:25] <Konomi> so it's about as reliable as the original then I guess ;p
[07:59:53] <chr> Well they'd already been raised on the old testament
[08:00:23] <Konomi> had his work cut out for him
[08:00:31] <SirFinkus> I listened to talk radio the other day, the fucking HATE the new moses movie
[08:00:34] <chr> With the mcp leading them out around the desert and all
[08:00:40] <Konomi> they made another one?
[08:01:13] <chr> Moses was best portrayed in South Park as systemd
[08:01:20] <Konomi> I really am starting to think there's some flaw in human genetics that gives people a prepensity to believe in bullshit that can't be quantified
[08:01:38] <Konomi> I had someone talk to me the other day and the conspiricy level was off the scale
[08:01:42] <SirFinkus> because it's "historically inaccurate (source: the bible)" and portrays "god as a jealous, capricious, genocidal psychopath"
[08:01:59] <Konomi> conspiricy nuts and religious people share the same thing in that reguard
[08:02:07] <Konomi> beliving something that can't be qualitified
[08:02:11] <Konomi> in*
[08:02:11] <chr> So they didn't read the bible then because that's what it says
[08:02:12] <SirFinkus> I've read the book, and yes, that's what the bible says he is
[08:02:32] <SirFinkus> oh, and no actual evidence for the whole "jewish slaves" bit either
[08:02:41] <Konomi> it's holywood
[08:02:54] <Konomi> if they were faithful to half the books they rape no normies would watch the movies
[08:02:57] <chr> I see what you did there. Jpg
[08:04:09] <Konomi> did the new movie count as torture porn like mel's?
[08:05:08] <chr> Oh wait you meant Mel Gibson
[08:05:15] <chr> I thought you meant Brooks
[08:05:28] <chr> Earlier
[08:05:31] <SirFinkus> the mel brooks account is much more accurate than the biblical one
[08:05:51] <chr> Jews in Space
[08:05:55] <SirFinkus> and significantly jewier
[08:06:38] <SirFinkus> oy vey https://www.youtube.com
[08:06:38] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Hava Nagila Original - YouTube
[08:07:19] <chr> I haven't seen the recent movie but I remember people bitching about it because it has dinosaurs or buttmagic or something
[08:07:48] <SirFinkus> well, buttmagic is canon
[08:08:04] <chr> Non-canonical buttmagic
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[08:08:09] <chr> Gasp!
[08:11:42] <SirFinkus> fuck, only one beer left
[08:15:02] <Konomi> better balance it on your nose
[08:23:37] <crutchy> weird song
[08:24:29] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[08:24:29] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Clock lock works feat. ろん - YouTube
[08:26:14] <SirFinkus> pfft, that's not weird
[08:28:20] <crutchy> compared to the crap that aussies are barraged with on the radio/tv/etc it is
[08:28:35] <crutchy> its weird in a good way
[08:29:13] <SirFinkus> seems pretty standard to me, if we're talking Japanese shit, https://www.youtube.com beats it out
[08:29:13] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03八十八ヶ所巡礼 「攻撃的国民的音楽」 - YouTube
[08:29:31] <SirFinkus> I can get weirder too
[08:30:10] <crutchy> meh. that looks/sounds like a lot of the crap that i see on tv
[08:30:21] <crutchy> i'm not much into garage stuff though
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[08:33:56] * SirFinkus breaks out the big guns
[08:33:57] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[08:33:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Keiji Haino - I Said This is the Son of Nihilism - YouTube
[08:35:27] <crutchy> wow. a lot of guitar abuse there. so japanese do that too eh :p
[08:37:06] <crutchy> some of that kinda sounded a bit too led zeppelin wannabe
[08:37:21] <crutchy> not that its bad
[08:39:04] <SirFinkus> idk, keiji haino sounds nothing like led zeppelin to me
[08:39:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Quantum Physics Just got less Complicated - http://sylnt.us - function-collapse
[08:41:17] <crutchy> its weird, but not much much in a good way
[08:41:32] <crutchy> i couldn't stand much of the racket
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[09:48:58] <crutchy> civ2++
[09:48:58] <Bender> karma - civ2: 1
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[11:42:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 25 Years Since the US Attack on Panama - http://sylnt.us - regime-change
[12:06:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:06:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 924
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[14:36:30] <Ethanol-fueled> SUP FUCKERS
[14:36:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah hee hee hoooooooooo!
[14:36:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Bark! Bark! Bark!
[14:36:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Woof! Wooof! Wooof!
[14:37:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Like a muthafuggin' DAWG, yo!
[14:37:29] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahahahhahahaha
[14:37:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I got UBUNTU LINUX installed on my box.
[14:38:29] <Ethanol-fueled> If Ubuntu had commercials they would be like: A family is huddled around their computer asking, "wow, wouldn't it be nice if we didnt get viruses?!"
[14:39:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Then come a big Black man busting out of their computer ooking, "OOOOOO BOOOOOOONNN TOOOOOO!" before raping the mom and stealing all of the expensive things in the house running out the front door.
[14:40:22] <Ethanol-fueled> The version of UBUNTU LINUX: Frazzled Ferguson.
[14:42:18] <Ethanol-fueled> MASS MOB VIOLENCE>
[14:42:21] <Ethanol-fueled> RIOTS!
[14:43:43] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[14:43:43] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Dr.Dre - The day the niggaz took over - YouTube
[14:44:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, that's a sick jam.
[14:44:22] <Ethanol-fueled> More relevant now than ever.
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[14:45:26] <Ethanol-fueled> FUnkis, whats up?
[14:46:18] <SirFinkus> not much
[14:46:26] <SirFinkus> you?
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[14:48:42] <Ethanol-fueled> had a lot of fun last night.
[14:48:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Woke up at 6:30is kinda buzzed though.
[14:49:01] <SirFinkus> not hungover I hope
[14:49:14] <Ethanol-fueled> waiting until I get tired again. Complicating matters is the fact that I quit marijuana 3 days ago.
[14:49:35] <Ethanol-fueled> I started twitching in my sleep since I quit pot, but I'm more alpha.
[14:49:43] <Ethanol-fueled> I aqit weed because I'm dating again.
[14:49:54] <SirFinkus> haven't heard of the twitching thing
[14:50:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Ah well. How goes it finkus?
[14:50:51] <SirFinkus> I was dismayed to discover I had only one beer left last night, which is no fun
[14:51:01] <SirFinkus> and can't get booze after 2am in this state
[14:51:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh man. That's a real dick in the mashed potatoes.
[14:51:13] <Ethanol-fueled> same here, in Cali Finkus
[14:51:21] <SirFinkus> I have to wait an hour now
[14:51:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, there were times when I ran out of Booze at 2 and dawdled until 6am, when it is legal to buy again in Cali.
[14:52:07] <SirFinkus> it's 8 here
[14:52:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Damn, that sugs.
[14:52:52] <SirFinkus> eh, could be worse
[14:53:20] <SirFinkus> I also have like 2 shots of schnapps, but I'm not that desperate
[14:53:26] <SirFinkus> peppermint
[14:53:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaha
[14:53:36] <Ethanol-fueled> YUCK!
[14:55:15] <chr> Four-to-six hours of no purchasing seems like a weird rule
[14:55:48] <SirFinkus> the idea is that people can't spend all night at bars or something
[14:56:10] <SirFinkus> also prevents really smashed people from "resupplying"
[14:56:14] <SirFinkus> I guess
[14:56:36] <chr> They should get to. Imagine if only drunks were out on the road
[14:57:25] <Ethanol-fueled> chr, that would be awesome.
[14:57:34] <SirFinkus> that reminds me, a few weeks I was out with a drinking with a friend
[14:57:42] <SirFinkus> walking the town, the bars just closed
[14:57:42] <Ethanol-fueled> it would mean that the people who don't drive but get smashed all night would have nonstop entertainment.
[14:58:10] <SirFinkus> suddenly we see a car driving down the exact center of the road, going like 30
[14:58:19] <Ethanol-fueled> oh shit
[14:58:31] <SirFinkus> a cop car has the middle lane close off for some reason, has his lights on and flares out
[14:58:42] <SirFinkus> without tapping his brakes, this guy rear ends the cop
[14:58:45] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHA
[14:58:54] <SirFinkus> it was right in front of the police station too
[14:59:00] <Ethanol-fueled> What a dumb shit.
[14:59:35] <SirFinkus> we stayed and watched the sobriety tests, he did not do well
[15:00:40] <Ethanol-fueled> dumb ass.
[15:02:51] <Ethanol-fueled> allright, gonna try to go back to sleep and sleep the remainder of tis buzz off.
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[15:03:07] <SirFinkus> night
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[15:08:56] <SirFinkus> so conspiracy hat time, this sony hack could be a distraction from that pesky torture report
[15:14:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Usbdriveby: Horrifying Proof-of-concept USB Attack - http://sylnt.us - physical-access-FTW
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[20:00:18] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup fellas.
[20:00:39] <SirFinkus> still buzzed?
[20:02:01] <Ethanol-fueled> no, but I'm sure stoked. Just picked up a roof-rack for the ride. Can now go surfing again.
[20:02:27] <Ethanol-fueled> goddamn thing was 480 bucks. ALl for just a few bits of metal and plastic.
[20:02:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Even said out loud in the store "god damn those fucking bastards" and the associate laughed
[20:03:08] <SirFinkus> that kind of bullshit is always overpriced
[20:03:09] <chromas> yeah but those bits of metal and plastic were expertly arranged
[20:03:27] <SirFinkus> like phone cases
[20:03:50] <chromas> robots++ # increase the profit margin
[20:03:50] <Bender> karma - robots: 2
[20:04:00] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, I get that it is a pain in the ass to design those things. But the actual cost of materials was probably like $30 to them.
[20:04:00] <SirFinkus> $.35 worth of plastic for $39.99
[20:04:31] <chromas> plus the rube tax :)
[20:11:18] <Ethanol-fueled> man, vacation feels good.
[20:11:31] <Ethanol-fueled> gonna have breakfast with a female coworker, then kick it with my friend who has a learning disability.
[20:11:48] <Ethanol-fueled> he was in high school with us and old enough to buy beer. Plus, he was into punk rock and adores Hitler.
[20:11:50] <SirFinkus> breakfast, or "breakfast"
[20:12:06] <Ethanol-fueled> We call him "Frankie the Mexican Nazi Punk." A real Brown Menace.
[20:12:10] <chromas> eating out
[20:12:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, I don't know yet.
[20:12:28] <swiss> ef, goin after his coworkers
[20:12:30] <Ethanol-fueled> She's much older but I think she'd be down. I have to play it by ear.
[20:12:40] <SirFinkus> Oatis is a good breakfast stout
[20:12:51] <Ethanol-fueled> No booze until 5pm Finkus
[20:13:10] <SirFinkus> that's no fun, it's christmas
[20:13:11] <Ethanol-fueled> I had happy hour with my coworkers and showed them nude pics of me in action, and my extenders as well.
[20:13:25] <Ethanol-fueled> all the ladies at work know I have my extenders now.
[20:13:35] <Ethanol-fueled> Agreed, kinda, Finkus.
[20:13:53] <Ethanol-fueled> But these are days off and I don't want to spend too many of them in a constant haze.
[20:14:15] <SirFinkus> ahh, I usually don't drink enough for that to be a problem
[20:14:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus -- I do.
[20:14:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Once I take that first sip, I'm not geting off that ride until I pass out.
[20:15:16] <SirFinkus> ouch, I like getting to like a 4 beer level and just coasting, that's party drinking though
[20:15:45] <swiss> i haven't experimented with stouts yet
[20:15:48] <SirFinkus> anything after that you're at the point of diminishing returns
[20:16:21] <Ethanol-fueled> swiss, they're like coffee.
[20:16:26] <swiss> i don't do coffee
[20:16:26] <SirFinkus> i'd recommend it, just stay away from guiness, it's the budweiser of stouts
[20:16:28] <swiss> coffee--
[20:16:28] <Bender> karma - tea: 330
[20:16:32] <swiss> fuck that thing
[20:16:33] <swiss> --coffee
[20:16:33] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 199
[20:16:50] <SirFinkus> well, the tastes are pretty broad
[20:17:00] <SirFinkus> some of them have more of a dark chocolate taste
[20:17:17] <arti> get 'em by the tasties.
[20:17:18] <SirFinkus> or even a woody flavor
[20:17:46] <arti> or would you describe it as more of a pole flavor?
[20:17:58] <SirFinkus> took you 40 seconds arti
[20:18:13] <SirFinkus> had it been instant, it might have worked
[20:18:38] <arti> i'll defer to you for expertise with instant
[20:19:14] <arti> good afternoon finkus
[20:19:34] <SirFinkus> oh, Ethanol-fueled, if you haven't tried it yet, try and find a barrel aged IPA
[20:19:44] <SirFinkus> afternoon arti
[20:20:01] <swiss> why do i get the feeling Ethanol-fueled doesn't drink for the taste
[20:20:09] <arti> who does
[20:20:15] <SirFinkus> I do
[20:20:22] <swiss> i drink mimosas for the taste
[20:20:28] <arti> if alcohol tasted good you wouldn't need to mix it with shit
[20:20:40] <swiss> though honestly, putting soda water with the orange juice would prob be about the same
[20:20:43] <SirFinkus> anyone who buys anything that isn't the cheapest beer or vodka
[20:21:06] <SirFinkus> if people didn't drink it for the taste, who the fuck would buy scotch?
[20:21:09] <swiss> SirFinkus: i have been enjoying newton's folly granny smith from trader joes
[20:21:19] <SirFinkus> cider?
[20:21:22] <swiss> it's not very good, but it's tasty as fuck
[20:21:22] <swiss> yeah
[20:21:26] <swiss> draft cider
[20:21:45] <SirFinkus> most of the ciders I've had are too sweet, but I've also had some good ones
[20:21:50] <arti> want to split a fuzzy navel later?
[20:22:00] <swiss> granny smith is more sour than sweet
[20:22:33] <SirFinkus> yeah, but a lot of companies add shittons of sugar to their stuff
[20:22:46] <arti> "what do you mean we're out of sugar? fine, add salt!"
[20:23:08] <swiss> ah
[20:23:19] <swiss> if you have a trader joes near you, pick up a bottle or two though
[20:23:39] <SirFinkus> http://www.totalwine.com
[20:23:41] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Ace Apple Cider
[20:23:43] <SirFinkus> I think this is the stuff I like
[20:23:49] <arti> i usually buy balvenie there
[20:23:54] <arti> $39.99
[20:23:56] <SirFinkus> I always forget though, since I buy it so rarely
[20:24:44] <SirFinkus> [12:20:29] <+arti> if alcohol tasted good you wouldn't need to mix it with shit
[20:24:45] <SirFinkus> [12:23:50] <+arti> i usually buy balvenie there
[20:24:52] <SirFinkus> explain yourself
[20:27:07] <arti> what gives it flavor
[20:27:10] <arti> it certainly isn't alcohol
[20:27:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Here's a secret about trader Joe's:
[20:27:30] <Ethanol-fueled> they will sell you their loose beers at a discount
[20:27:35] <SirFinkus> you're trying to be clever arti
[20:27:36] <arti> if you hook up workers there with pot cookies, you get free shit?
[20:27:48] <arti> not that i've tried that or anything
[20:28:11] <swiss> i think i heard ace is good
[20:28:22] <arti> would you say it's ace?
[20:28:26] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, no. You know how some of a 6-pack's beers get stolen, or beers from 6-packs otherwise get loose somehow? You can ask them if they have any loose beers in the back and buy them at a discount.
[20:28:26] * arti shows himself out
[20:28:40] <swiss> Ethanol-fueled: they sell their loose beers solo anyway....
[20:28:49] <Ethanol-fueled> do they?
[20:28:55] <arti> surprised it doesn't evaporate via employees
[20:28:55] <swiss> at TJ's, they have loose beers on one rack, and 6 packs on another
[20:29:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, nice.
[20:29:04] <swiss> and it's no difference in price to buy 6 loose as a 6 pack
[20:29:13] <swiss> only difference with the 6 pack is you don't carry 6 loose beers
[20:29:14] <arti> "20 beers? what do you mean 10 beers spilled!? Here help me clean up these 5 beers."
[20:29:18] <Ethanol-fueled> huh, I guess I'm a goddamn lying idiot then.
[20:29:31] <swiss> yep
[20:29:35] <Ethanol-fueled> I heard it from somebody else, I rarely actually go in.
[20:29:38] <Ethanol-fueled> But that's good to know.
[20:29:40] <swiss> maybe a traditional grocery store would
[20:29:54] <SirFinkus> total wine charges extra for loose ones
[20:29:57] <arti> you mean with rewards cards and shiz?
[20:30:09] <arti> "rewards"
[20:30:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Ugh, rewards cards.
[20:30:52] <Ethanol-fueled> Hate that shit.
[20:31:00] <SirFinkus> fuck selling my privacy for that
[20:31:09] <SirFinkus> I'm so mad retards went for that
[20:31:24] * Ethanol-fueled uses his grandma's phone number in place of rewards' cards.
[20:31:33] <SirFinkus> now everything is overpriced unless you have the card
[20:31:44] <arti> haha
[20:32:00] <SirFinkus> that probably fucks up their marketing profile on her
[20:32:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Good.
[20:32:50] <Ethanol-fueled> ("Why is this 90-pound old lady buying enough booze to level an elephant?"
[20:33:09] <SirFinkus> "aspercream, condoms, cabbage, vodka"
[20:33:18] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahah Finkus
[20:33:24] <SirFinkus> couldn't think of enough "old" items to make that really work
[20:33:27] <arti> "astroglide, zinc, aftershave"
[20:33:28] <Ethanol-fueled> Just bought 3 boxes of condoms too.
[20:33:44] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, I don't take zinc anymore. Hurts my stomach too much.
[20:34:07] <arti> maybe you're at that point where your body doesn't like anything good
[20:34:27] <Ethanol-fueled> not true, I take multivitamins, glucosamine, and fish oil.
[20:34:36] <Ethanol-fueled> and melatonin to help rest.
[20:34:50] <arti> glucosamine is good shiz
[20:34:58] <SirFinkus> good of an excuse as any to post this (nsfw) https://www.youtube.com
[20:34:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Interior Semiotics - YouTube
[20:35:10] <arti> as far as the oil, dha epa highscore?
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[20:43:44] <Ethanol-fueled> So....hack on german steel plant. NSA false-flag?
[20:44:06] <Ethanol-fueled> NSA false-flags are happening like crazy now. Those war drums are a-beatin'.
[20:44:12] <arti> Der Stahl
[20:44:12] <SirFinkus> naw, just some hacker getting his jollies
[20:44:24] <SirFinkus> those kinds of systems are notoriously insecure
[20:44:25] <Ethanol-fueled> America's government and intelligence agencies are now officially full-retard.
[20:44:27] <arti> everything is 'merica
[20:44:47] <SirFinkus> that sony hack though, reeks of a "distraction"
[20:45:00] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, that's an interesting theory.
[20:45:12] <SirFinkus> nobody gives a shit about steel, but if you take away DA MOVIES, people get pissed
[20:45:17] <arti> we should do a musical, "From Global Warming to famine, it's the NSA who we must examine~"
[20:45:49] <SirFinkus> people are more outraged that "The Interview" won't get released than they are that we inject hummus up people's asses
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[20:46:49] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, I offered to start a music project with you all here.
[20:47:04] <arti> did it involve chili?
[20:47:06] <Ethanol-fueled> open source music. I record a track or two, pass it off to one of you, then you record a track or two etc.
[20:47:25] <arti> that'd be kinda cool, although, i think something procedural would be even more amusing
[20:47:32] <Ethanol-fueled> but nobody offered to help. And I don't want to chase down mrcoolbp and beg him for a collaboration.
[20:47:36] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: what do you play?
[20:47:37] <SirFinkus> hmm, what rhymes with "news"...
[20:47:42] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas: everything.
[20:47:43] <arti> chromas: skin flute
[20:47:50] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah arti
[20:47:55] <Ethanol-fueled> ba dum tish!
[20:48:05] <chromas> wait, but that's /my/ instrument!
[20:48:12] <chromas> hands off my instrument!
[20:48:22] <Ethanol-fueled> what do you mean by "procedural" arti?
[20:48:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Judge Spanks SCO in Ancient Ownership-of-Unix Lawsuit - http://sylnt.us - groklaw-still-alive
[20:49:04] <chromas> spanking++
[20:49:04] <Bender> karma - spanking: 1
[20:50:03] <arti> have the melodies generated and arranged, no two experiences will be the same
[20:50:16] <Ethanol-fueled> arti, that has the potential for suck.
[20:50:16] <arti> "mine cursed at me!" "that's crazy talk, play it again!"
[20:50:22] <arti> lots of things do
[20:50:29] <arti> call the thing Rogue
[20:50:32] <Ethanol-fueled> It's like those people who call fractals "art"
[20:50:34] <arti> Rogue Melody
[20:51:06] <Ethanol-fueled> anyway, I'm going to go have breakfast with a venezuelan lady. I'll probably be on later to harass you all.
[20:51:09] <Ethanol-fueled> PEACE!
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[20:51:57] <arti> totally no art there: https://www.youtube.com
[20:51:58] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Fractals in Nature - YouTube
[20:55:32] <chromas> fractals++ # with shading
[20:55:32] <Bender> karma - fractals: 1
[21:21:35] <chromas> https://github.com
[21:21:36] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03l29ah/hatexmpp · GitHub
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[21:59:40] <crutchy> ++coffee
[21:59:40] <Hedonismbot> Karma - coffee: 200
[22:05:18] <Hedonismbot> 200th customer! ding ding ding ding ding!
[22:05:39] <crutchy> i just farted
[22:05:50] <Hedonismbot> ding ding ding ding ding!
[22:06:12] <crutchy> clean-up in aisle 6!
[22:06:25] <chromas> ++karma_war_resistance
[22:06:26] <Hedonismbot> Karma - karma_war_resistance: 1
[22:06:27] <chromas> ++karma_war_resistance
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[22:10:16] <crutchy> derp
[22:10:26] <crutchy> ++karma_war_resistance
[22:10:26] <Hedonismbot> Karma - karma_war_resistance: 2
[22:10:51] <crutchy> maybe Hedonismbot hasn't had enough ++coffee
[22:11:05] <chromas> it's working
[22:11:23] <chromas> there are cooldown periods
[22:11:32] <crutchy> damn fancy bot
[22:11:34] <ar> http://anime.stackexchange.com
[22:11:34] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Anime Manga Stack Exchange
[22:13:10] <crutchy> ar, i found a couple of anime i'm gunna see if i can get into. i'm an anime noob. still not sure how i got into Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo. might have been the music maybe
[22:13:46] <crutchy> there's a guy that does 'top 10' anime videos on youtube
[22:14:23] <crutchy> he's a weirdo and i was pretty selective in which genre i wanted, but he divides up the videos pretty well
[22:50:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - What Time Is It? Time for Multiple NTP Vulnerabilities! - http://sylnt.us - and-time-for-an-update
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