#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-16

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[00:10:14] <paulej72> ho ho ho
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[00:31:46] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com - Tokyo [3840 x 2400]
[00:31:49] <aqu4> No title found.
[00:31:53] <Konomi> ...
[00:32:21] <Konomi> whoever owns that bot can they A. Make it stop responding to Bender and B. Make it shut up when it can't find a title or get the mime/file size instead...
[00:39:39] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[00:39:40] <sjw> ^ 03Colourful substation - Imgur
[00:39:40] <aqu4> Title for page https://imgur.com "3 Colourful substation - Imgur"
[00:39:45] <Konomi> ....
[00:39:51] <Konomi> worst bot ever \o/
[00:40:16] <JamesNZ> The bots aren't the problem, it's the amount of bots :)
[00:40:37] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[00:40:37] <Bender> karma - tea: 322
[00:40:38] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[00:40:38] <Bender> karma - tea: 323
[00:47:16] <Konomi> https://www.schneier.com
[00:47:17] <aqu4> Title for page https://www.schneier.com "3Schneier on Security: Over 700 Million People Taking Steps to Avoid NSA Surveillance"
[00:47:17] <sjw> ^ 03Schneier on Security: Over 700 Million People Taking Steps to Avoid NSA Surveillance
[00:48:26] * Subsentient doesn't believe them
[00:50:12] <Subsentient> Konomi: sorry about that, I had turned on aqu4's auto-title for a test and left it on
[00:50:16] <Subsentient> $part
[00:50:16] <aqu4> Assuming you mean this channel.
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[00:50:28] <Konomi> Subsentient: bleh sorry just grumpy a bit ;p
[00:50:31] <Subsentient> http://goatse.cx
[00:50:31] <aqu4> Title for page http://goatse.cx: "3Goatse Apps - Goatse.cx is offering subdomains on Goatse.cx! You can do virtually anything you want with Goatse Subdomain, just like a normal domain! Host your webpage, blog, resume or irc server! Users can easily choose which IP they want to point the subdomain towards! Example: YourSite.Goatse.cxLaunching soon, signup below to be notified first!"
[00:50:31] <sjw> ^ 03Goatse Apps - Goatse.cx is offering subdomains on Goatse.cx! You can do virtually anything you want with Goatse Subdomain, just like a normal domain! Host your webpage, blog, resume or irc server! Users can easily choose which IP they want to point the subdomain towards! Example: YourSite.Goatse.cxLaunching soon, signup below to be notified first! ( http://members.goatse.cx )
[00:50:32] <aqu4> Title for page http://members.goatse.cx "3Goatse Apps - Goatse.cx is offering subdomains on Goatse.cx! You can do virtually anything you want with Goatse Subdomain, just like a normal domain! Host your webpage, blog, resume or irc server! Users can easily choose which IP they want to point the subdomain towards! Example: YourSite.Goatse.cxLaunching soon, signup below to be notified first!"
[00:50:35] <Subsentient> dammit
[00:50:37] <Konomi> you shouldn't parse titles with regex btw
[00:50:43] <paulej72> i can kickban all of the bots, but then there would be no one left
[00:50:46] <Subsentient> $part
[00:50:46] <aqu4> Assuming you mean this channel.
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[00:51:00] <Subsentient> http://goatse.cx
[00:51:00] <sjw> ^ 03Goatse Apps - Goatse.cx is offering subdomains on Goatse.cx! You can do virtually anything you want with Goatse Subdomain, just like a normal domain! Host your webpage, blog, resume or irc server! Users can easily choose which IP they want to point the subdomain towards! Example: YourSite.Goatse.cxLaunching soon, signup below to be notified first! ( http://members.goatse.cx )
[00:51:00] <aqu4> Title for page http://goatse.cx: "3Goatse Apps - Goatse.cx is offering subdomains on Goatse.cx! You can do virtually anything you want with Goatse Subdomain, just like a normal domain! Host your webpage, blog, resume or irc server! Users can easily choose which IP they want to point the subdomain towards! Example: YourSite.Goatse.cxLaunching soon, signup below to be notified first!"
[00:51:01] <aqu4> Title for page http://members.goatse.cx "3Goatse Apps - Goatse.cx is offering subdomains on Goatse.cx! You can do virtually anything you want with Goatse Subdomain, just like a normal domain! Host your webpage, blog, resume or irc server! Users can easily choose which IP they want to point the subdomain towards! Example: YourSite.Goatse.cxLaunching soon, signup below to be notified first!"
[00:51:04] <Konomi> that's why imgur has " title"
[00:51:08] <Subsentient> ...
[00:51:13] <Subsentient> $restart
[00:51:13] <aqu4> Be right back.
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[00:51:18] * Subsentient detects a problem
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[00:51:23] <Subsentient> http://goatse.cx
[00:51:23] <sjw> ^ 03Goatse Apps - Goatse.cx is offering subdomains on Goatse.cx! You can do virtually anything you want with Goatse Subdomain, just like a normal domain! Host your webpage, blog, resume or irc server! Users can easily choose which IP they want to point the subdomain towards! Example: YourSite.Goatse.cxLaunching soon, signup below to be notified first! ( http://members.goatse.cx )
[00:51:27] <Subsentient> That's better.
[00:51:31] <Konomi> thanks ~
[00:51:37] <Subsentient> Konomi: Yeah sorry about that.
[00:51:41] <Konomi> what is aqu4 coded in?
[00:51:45] <Subsentient> Konomi: C89.
[00:51:49] <Konomi> oh ouch
[00:51:57] <Konomi> using any libs to parse the title?
[00:52:13] <Subsentient> Konomi: Just my expert nibble parsing and strstr()
[00:52:32] <Konomi> you should add something to remove double spaces at the start and end of the string
[00:52:36] <Konomi> web sites do some weird shit
[00:52:42] <Konomi> probably a loop sadly since it's C
[00:53:01] <paulej72> sjw is ignoring aqu4, too bad we could have an endless loop
[00:53:03] <Subsentient> Konomi: Trust me, when you get used to it, string operations in C aren't bad at all.
[00:53:11] <Konomi> I'm spoiled by regex
[00:53:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Censorship 2.0, manipulating information and opinions with online sockpuppets. - http://sylnt.us - brought-to-you-by-Seseme-Street-and-CTW
[00:53:19] <Konomi> though I use perls modules for html parsing
[00:53:27] <Subsentient> I actually like being able to mess with individual letters as elements of an array.
[00:53:37] <Konomi> you got the code up somewhere I wouldn't mind taking a look?
[00:53:43] <Subsentient> Konomi: Sure thing
[00:53:44] <Konomi> I want to eventually get into C
[00:53:45] <Subsentient> $help
[00:53:45] <aqu4> Hi, I'm aqu4bot, version "baking", running on UNIX. I'm a bot written in pure C by Subsentient [http://universe2.us/]. My source code can be found at "http://github.com/Subsentient/aqu4bot/". Try the 'commands' command to get a list of what I can do, or try 'help cmd' where 'cmd' is a particular command.
[00:53:59] <Konomi> thanks
[00:54:13] <Konomi> C from scratch is pretty hard it's nice to have examples to look at
[00:54:14] <Subsentient> Konomi: She runs on everything from Linux to Windows to Mac OS X to Haiku.
[00:54:38] <Subsentient> Konomi: The networking part is a pain but once I got the basic network wrapper functions aqu4bot was pretty easy to write.
[00:54:43] <paulej72> compliers are scary
[00:54:53] <Konomi> I'm guessing no unicode support in it
[00:54:59] <Konomi> unicode is a freaking pita after all
[00:55:04] <Subsentient> Depends on what you mean by unicode.
[00:55:32] <Konomi> utf8 ;p
[00:55:33] <Subsentient> She'll happily handle any unicode stuff, since nothing she does relies on string spacing. Just number of bytes.
[00:55:51] <Subsentient> Never had any issues with unicode for aqu4.
[00:55:58] <Konomi> hmm okay
[00:56:18] <Konomi> can nulls appear in unicode though?
[00:56:27] <Subsentient> Don't think so.
[00:56:39] <Subsentient> If you mean NUL, then yeah C strings still work OK.
[00:56:48] <Konomi> okay
[00:57:49] <Subsentient> Konomi: Honestly, I don't even know how to deal wtih unicode support for aqu4. Because her network function reads in data as unsigned char, signed overflow isn't an issue.
[00:57:57] <Subsentient> thanks to the magic of type punning!
[00:58:01] <Subsentient> so yeah unicode works ok
[00:58:18] <Konomi> yeah pass through wise I bet but forming it and processing it probably going to get complicated in C
[00:58:30] <Konomi> meh this terrorist shit too
[00:58:35] <Konomi> I can see why it upsets people
[00:58:43] <Konomi> it isn't the event it's the atmosphere around it
[00:58:47] <Konomi> no one will shut up about it here
[00:58:54] <Subsentient> Konomi: Well, most compilers handle unicode literals in strings OK nowadays.
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[01:00:39] <SpallsHurgenson> well, public apology time
[01:00:40] <Subsentient> Yeah just looking at her network code right now, looks like unicode should always pass through just fine, unless the number system is one's complement.
[01:00:43] <SpallsHurgenson> this is for TheMightyBuzzard
[01:00:46] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd like to apologize to TMB on how I ended our conversation the other night.
[01:00:51] <SpallsHurgenson> while I stand by my arguments, my closing remarks were uncalled for rude and ad-hominem comments
[01:00:57] <SpallsHurgenson> so... um... I'm sorry
[01:01:01] <SpallsHurgenson> and that's all I gotta say 'bout that. :)
[01:02:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, no worries. learned long ago not to take political arguments personal. can't everyone be right like me.
[01:03:23] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but even though I was frustrated I shouldn't have gone out like that, if only because it was counter-productive to my argument. anyway, apologies. you're still wrong though :) :) :)
[01:03:24] <paulej72> when it comes to politics eveyyone is wrong 😊
[01:03:52] <SpallsHurgenson> just wait until I become Tyrant For Live, paulej72; that sort of talk will be treason :)
[01:04:18] <paulej72> you could make it a law
[01:04:51] <chr> A secret law. No need for the populace to know you're coming for them
[01:05:00] <SpallsHurgenson> nah, I'll get rid of laws. under my reign, everything will be ruled by whims :)
[01:05:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> definitely more fair
[01:05:18] <paulej72> i like that idea
[01:05:30] <paulej72> can i be your yes man
[01:05:59] <chr> Today; perhaps not tomorrow…
[01:06:05] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, first I need a brutal but 100% loyal chief-of-police :)
[01:06:49] <paulej72> that souds like a job fot TheMightyBuzzard
[01:06:51] <SpallsHurgenson> and somebody to help ensure I follow the Evil Overlord's List :)
[01:07:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ethanol-fueled for that
[01:07:22] <chr> http://www.nbcnews.com
[01:07:22] <sjw> ^ 03Newtown Families Sue Gun Maker for Sandy Hook Massacre - NBC News
[01:07:40] <paulej72> asses
[01:07:43] <chr> Ignite! Ignite!
[01:07:44] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of massacres... how's that thing going down in sydney?
[01:07:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i fully plan on leading the guerrilla fighters. pay's shite but you get to play with sweet guns.
[01:08:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh it's over. two hostages n one gunman dead
[01:08:28] <paulej72> all killed by the police i would think
[01:08:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, friendly fire ain't
[01:09:13] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, as evil overlord I would arm my troops with all the best weapons, with cool names like DeathLaser and Eviscerator
[01:09:52] <paulej72> well we can complain that the threat was not great enough to justify the loss of two lives
[01:10:03] * SpallsHurgenson reads the story
[01:10:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is true and good but i wanna be able to smoke cigars while i shoot them so i can be like adam baldwin.
[01:10:21] <paulej72> not counting that piece of shit that started it all
[01:11:46] <SpallsHurgenson> still sounds like cops itchin' to use their toys, but maybe I'm just looking at it as a cynical 'merkin.
[01:13:49] <paulej72> but they were not american cops so that could never be the case 😉
[01:14:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i'd figure dude prolly shot two of them when he heard cops coming. occam's razor n all that.
[01:14:31] <Konomi> aren't they mostly sueing because it was a gun sold without the restrictions being followed/
[01:14:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, kay but what's that got to do with the manufacturer. that's a retail issue.
[01:15:10] <Konomi> extension of liability I guess
[01:15:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, trying for a bigger payday.
[01:15:23] <Konomi> they supply the stores
[01:15:52] <Konomi> ergo one could impart they have a responsiblity to make sure their product was sold with the restrictions in place
[01:15:53] <chr> should go after the mineral/metal/plastic suppliers
[01:15:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> we generally don't do secondary liability here. guilty or gtfo.
[01:16:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, they got no such legal or moral responsibility under us law.
[01:16:16] <Konomi> maybe in criminal cases but this is civil isn't it?
[01:16:29] <paulej72> yes civil
[01:16:42] <SpallsHurgenson> the money was used to purchase the guns was printed by the government! sue obama!
[01:16:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> secondary liability only ever comes up in civil here and it usually gets shot down. bah-dum-bum
[01:16:58] <paulej72> fuck obama too
[01:17:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I'd rather not
[01:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> you could definitely hold on by the ears.
[01:17:49] <paulej72> not litterally, we are not eth
[01:17:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude makes me wanna give him a magic feather every time i see him.
[01:18:12] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't know what "magic feather" means and I'm afraid to google it
[01:18:24] <paulej72> he would look good in a robin hood hat
[01:18:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> disney movie Dumbo
[01:18:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> crap, robin hood n disney in two sentences. now i gotta watch the animated one tonight.
[01:19:18] <chr> oodelolly
[01:20:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's going to bug me that that movie's where the hamsterdance song came from until i listen to that as well.
[01:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid OCD
[01:21:34] <paulej72> forgot about that
[01:21:42] <SpallsHurgenson> song stuck in your head? use a corkscrew to get it out!
[01:21:57] <paulej72> 357 magnum
[01:22:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> Barbie Girl
[01:25:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, not doing it. may have to break out the big guns
[01:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> should do it: https://www.youtube.com
[01:25:47] <sjw> ^ 03FROZEN Do You Want to Build a Snowman Kristen Bell, Agatha Lee Monn & Katie Lopez from Frozen HD - YouTube
[01:35:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, was gonna link something then saw it was on a gawker site so had to google up another source.
[01:37:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://securityaffairs.co
[01:37:04] <sjw> ^ 03SoakSoak infected more than 100k WordPress Websites | Security Affairs
[01:37:38] <SpallsHurgenson> I blame Microsoft
[01:39:35] <paulej72> i think i ran into a similar site today, but a different payload
[01:40:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd prolly never notice. noscript and all.
[01:41:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> still, might be worth a sub.
[01:50:57] <chr> This is the only Frozen I've seen. Seems mediocre https://www.youtube.com
[01:50:59] <sjw> ^ 03Honest Trailers - Frozen - YouTube
[01:52:10] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of movies: it's been fourteen years... when is the world going to get "Battlefield Earth II"
[01:53:36] <chr> Left Behind II: Jesus Comes Thrice
[01:54:11] <SpallsHurgenson> then again, we're still waiting on Plan 10 From Outer Space...
[01:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, hans gruber
[01:56:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> there we go. what to watch solved. best christmas movie ever.
[01:56:30] <chr> it was replaced by the systemd What Came from Outerspace
[01:56:55] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, Die Hard. classic movie.
[01:57:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> now i have a machine gun. ho. ho. ho.
[02:00:04] <SpallsHurgenson> dammit, now I gotta watch that movie
[02:00:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, yes you do.
[02:01:10] <SpallsHurgenson> I should watch the entire series... all two movies of it
[02:01:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[02:01:22] <paulej72> lol
[02:03:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> shame alan rickman had to die in the first one. he plays a pretty awesome bad guy.
[02:05:32] <paulej72> yes he does
[02:06:45] <paulej72> i could watch it, but i only have on vhs
[02:09:12] <Konomi> http://www.sandraandwoo.com
[02:15:42] <paulej72> s&w ftw
[02:22:43] <SpallsHurgenson> well, she deserved it; obviously she was just there to make trouble. the bible is not meant to be take literally like that, except when it is.
[02:24:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> the bible's a book about how not to be a dick. if you're reading anything else into it, you're doing it wrong.
[02:24:13] <paulej72> it is all literal except where it is a parable
[02:25:18] <paulej72> the earth was created in six days,
[02:25:30] <paulej72> there are no dinosaurs
[02:26:18] <SpallsHurgenson> well, that's true. there ARE no dinosaurs :)
[02:26:32] <Konomi> http://www.sandraandwoo.com
[02:26:33] <Konomi> ha
[02:26:49] <SpallsHurgenson> (shaddup, birds don't count, those are descendents of dinosaurs :)
[02:26:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> crocodiles are close enough
[02:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're big, greenish, and will eat you. s'enough dinosaur for me.
[02:27:42] <SpallsHurgenson> everytime I write "dinosaurs" I hear it in my head as it was pronounced ub that cartoon from Jurassic Park... "deye-no-sau-ers"
[02:27:52] <SpallsHurgenson> s/ub/in/
[02:27:52] <sed> <SpallsHurgenson> everytime I write "dinosaurs" I hear it in my head as it was pronounced in that cartoon from Jurassic Park... "deye-no-sau-ers"
[02:30:36] <JamesNZ> dinosaurs_eating_people++
[02:30:36] <Bender> karma - dinosaurs_eating_people: 1
[02:30:41] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[02:30:42] <sjw> ^ 03jurassic park - Bioleg DNA - YouTube
[02:38:26] <Subsentient> gotta restart my UPS. It's whistling.
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[02:42:41] <chr> that's interesting. aqu4 goes down, Konomi follows
[02:42:51] <chr> Konomi is an aqu4!
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[02:45:05] <Subsentient> Alright then. Connected via NEXUS again.
[02:45:21] <chr> Is aqu4 on a nexus too?
[02:45:24] <Subsentient> No.
[02:45:32] <Subsentient> She's using her own wonderful IRC core.
[02:45:36] <Subsentient> On which NEXUS is partially based.
[02:46:03] <chr> But just think of all the upgrade restarts you could do without dropping connection
[02:46:16] <Subsentient> I might do that.
[02:46:20] <chr> aqu4-on-aqu4 action
[02:46:25] <Subsentient> lol
[02:46:25] <ciri> HAHAHAHA
[02:46:43] <aqu4> ciri: Shut the FUCK up.
[02:46:49] <ctl> ciri++
[02:46:49] <Bender> karma - ciri: -28
[02:46:57] <aqu4> ciri--
[02:46:57] <Bender> karma - ciri: -29
[02:47:52] <Subsentient> I'll give aqu4bot a NEXUS connection eventually, probably.
[02:47:58] <Subsentient> The thing is that aqu4 is on several networks
[02:48:25] <Subsentient> and while multiple clients can connect to one network under the same nick with NEXUS, one client cannot use NEXUS to connect to multiple servers.
[02:48:52] <Subsentient> it'd be a fucking nightmare to code that.
[02:48:58] <chr> sounds like more code to steal from aqu4
[02:49:14] <Subsentient> I have three aqu4 processes, one for each network.
[02:49:21] <Subsentient> aqu4 doesn't support multiple networks either.
[02:49:33] <Subsentient> THey all start from the same binary, but with a different aqu4bot.conf
[02:50:22] <chr> ooh, you could get into multiprocessing
[02:50:47] <Subsentient> I don't even like threads.
[02:51:14] <chr> Server listens for client connections; for each one, it spins off a process with all the code to go between ircd and client
[02:51:15] <Subsentient> especially not pthreads. *shudders*
[02:51:41] <chr> plain processes would work because they don't have to interact with each other
[02:51:59] <Subsentient> ahh, I see what you mean.
[02:52:14] <chr> the main process would just maintain the nexus server socket
[02:52:21] <Subsentient> As it stands, NEXUS uses a giant loop. It uses nonblocking sockets to achieve its goals
[02:52:30] <chr> so you don't need a different port for each user you use
[02:52:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's something you do with a three line bash script though, not low level c
[02:53:00] <Subsentient> I should probably relearn my python.
[02:53:00] <chr> does bash do server sockets?
[02:53:03] <Subsentient> I forgot most of it.
[02:53:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but bash can start three copies of something using different conf files just fine
[02:53:52] <chr> Yeah but if you do it in-program then you only need one server with one port to listen on
[02:54:37] <chr> I guess you'd need some ipc, to direct new connections to old processes sometimes
[02:55:03] <chr> hey, if bash did server sockets we could implement systemd in bash
[02:59:10] <chr> <ciri> chr: Soylent green is green. Now libertarian i can sorta agree with. "I want gay married couples to be out of the lost.
[02:59:47] <chr> I wonder if ciri wants soylent libertarians
[03:31:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.empireonline.com
[03:31:45] <sjw> ^ 0330. A Charlie Brown Christmas | The 30 Best Christmas Movies Ever | Features | Empire
[03:33:26] * SpallsHurgenson looks around and sighs
[03:33:54] <SpallsHurgenson> thanks to the recent construction efforts in my den, this place has turned into a bonafide geekhole; computers and nerd-stuff just thrown about everywhere
[03:34:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> smooth
[03:34:12] <chr> Do you have a ceiling yet?
[03:34:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Blackmoore, we need a favorite christmas movie poll
[03:35:05] <SpallsHurgenson> no, not yet. contracter gave an estimate of an estimate that said $5000 though :)
[03:35:52] <chr> TheMightyBuzzard: with a rot13d "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine" option
[03:36:43] <SpallsHurgenson> terrible and blurry widescreen of my current computing conditions: http://imgur.com
[03:36:44] <sjw> ^ 03imgur: the simple image sharer
[03:36:57] <SpallsHurgenson> note the dreamcast on the right :)
[03:37:25] <chr> is that xbox modded?
[03:37:51] * chr notices there's no kitty in the picture
[03:37:58] <chr> kitts or gtfo
[03:38:54] * chr is playing Count the Laptops
[03:39:03] <SpallsHurgenson> the xbox is dead. I just haven't gotten around to unplugging it :)
[03:39:19] <SpallsHurgenson> oddly enough, kitty doesn't come a'visitin' these days :) :)
[03:39:44] <chr> only found four laptops so far. I thought there was one under the tablet but I think that's just a printer lid
[03:40:28] <chr> SpallsHurgenson++ # wall-mounted motherboard
[03:40:29] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 10
[03:43:39] <SpallsHurgenson> left to right: IBM Thinkpad (on top of shelf); HP laptop (top shelf, closed), MacMini as a server (bottom shelf), custom tower PC (on side, left of middle shelf), Acer netbook (on top of speaker), xbox360/PS3/XBox (bottom right, middleshelf), custom tower (sort of hidden beneath the desk, running the two screens), dell netbook (blue blur to the right of the "white" screen), dell laptop (closed, just below the
[03:43:39] <SpallsHurgenson> blue blur), dreamcast (far right), ipad (below dreamcast), dell desktop (beneath the ipad, not really visible), toshiba laptop (silver in very right corner)
[03:44:11] <SpallsHurgenson> there's a PS2, several phones and PDAs, amd another laptop in there somewhere too
[03:44:44] <SpallsHurgenson> the cables and spare computer parts are in several boxes behind
[03:45:09] <chr> oh yeah duh, that one on the speaker should be obvious but I didn't notice it
[03:45:16] <chr> the mac mini is the silver box?
[03:45:40] <chr> hardware_boner++
[03:45:40] <Bender> karma - hardware_boner: 1
[03:45:51] <SpallsHurgenson> the big screen is the TV, which is connected to the consoles, the sideways desktop PC, and is the third monitor for the main desktop
[03:46:08] <SpallsHurgenson> the mini is the tiny silver box on the right side of the bottom shelf on the left :)
[03:46:23] <SpallsHurgenson> next to four upright external USB drives :)
[03:46:42] <SpallsHurgenson> erm... and it's off for some reason. 'cuse me.
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[03:47:50] <chr> firefox-- # for no allowing middle-click panning images
[03:47:50] <Bender> karma - firefox: -2
[03:50:22] <JamesNZ> darktable++
[03:50:22] <Bender> karma - darktable: 1
[03:51:35] <SpallsHurgenson> other things to note: my web-cam has a little hood on it (and my kinect wears a hat), those pointy bladelike things behind the big monitors are swords and daggers ('cause, you know, nerd), the tree on the left is made of cardboard and apparently I have a bottle of redstag stashed beneath the desk, which suddenly makes me very happy :)
[03:52:42] <SpallsHurgenson> and yes, that is a 1980s-era corded phone there... 'cause it works in a blackout when nothing else does :)
[03:52:43] <chr> your web cam isn't kosher
[03:53:05] <chr> we have the same phone here
[03:53:27] <chr> it doesn't have a big slice in the cord though
[03:53:33] <SpallsHurgenson> does yours ring? mine doesn't ring anymore, but it dials out and takes calls just fine.
[03:53:44] <SpallsHurgenson> mind you, I /like/ a phone that doesn't ring :) :) :)
[03:54:06] <chr> it rings, even when the stupid cordless one doesn't. Or sometimes the cordless one does but it doesn't answer. fpos. But the corded one works flawlessly
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[03:54:17] <chr> I hate ringin' phones
[03:54:45] <chr> Asshole robots dialing just to hang up or not leave a message
[03:55:13] <SpallsHurgenson> not shown: UPS #1 is hidden behind the main desktop to the right (not seen) and UPS #2 is in the gap between the left and middle shelf (also hidden :)
[03:56:46] <juggs> holy piles of hardware
[03:57:44] <chr> I thought ipads had the giant thirty-pin connectors
[03:58:02] <chr> or is that the new lightning or thunder or whatever?
[03:58:08] <SpallsHurgenson> ipad4 and above use the new lightning connector
[03:58:14] <SirFinkus> I hate the news coverage of these fucking raids
[03:58:24] <SirFinkus> they always specify that they use "live ammunition"
[03:58:47] <SirFinkus> did you expect them to go in there and start shooting blanks?
[03:58:48] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, we're not talking hard drives I guess :)
[03:59:12] <SpallsHurgenson> SirFinkus: rubber bullets, maybe?
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[03:59:39] <SirFinkus> nobody is going to use rubber bullets to waste a gunman
[04:00:15] <SirFinkus> almost as retarded as that vice reporter asking the ferguson police if their guns were real, and if they were loaded
[04:01:05] <chr> Maybe their guns had vasectomies
[04:01:17] <chr> that's why they'd be shooting blanks
[04:02:44] <SpallsHurgenson> badum tisch!
[04:05:20] <SpallsHurgenson> he'll be here all night folks; don't forget to tip the waitresses
[04:05:34] <SirFinkus> I don't think they went in and bukkaked them
[04:05:49] <SirFinkus> although I think that's probably a porno plot somewhere
[04:06:21] <chr> bullet bukkake
[04:06:23] <SpallsHurgenson> bawaoow chikka chikka waah, chikka chikka wah.
[04:06:31] <chr> (for my valentine)
[04:15:44] <SpallsHurgenson> good news! I found my screwdriver that I was looking for!
[04:15:54] <SpallsHurgenson> bad news! my foot is bleeding :)
[04:16:36] <juggs> there seems to be a theme in here of people taking chunks out of their feet around tech gear
[04:17:02] <chr> Speaking of rms
[04:19:54] <Konomi> web cams I swear they pick up my veins more than eyes do
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[04:26:21] <SpallsHurgenson> computers are out for our blood! the computer revolution has begun! they are already trying to immobilize us!
[04:26:30] <Konomi> okay then
[04:26:46] <SpallsHurgenson> the hood I made for my webcam has an inner-lining of tinfoil :)
[04:27:08] <Konomi> you know I do some stuff on my pc I'll never tell a soul
[04:27:17] <SpallsHurgenson> like what? :)
[04:27:17] <Konomi> but I am confident enough to not tape up my web cam...
[04:27:26] <Konomi> "never tell a soul"
[04:27:43] <SpallsHurgenson> we're on IRC; we're the damned and soulless. you can tell us :)
[04:27:47] <Konomi> I know a lot of soylent has sold them but it's in the saying
[04:28:02] <Konomi> I can't it would be bad OpSec ;p
[04:28:43] <chr> probably things like this: http://xkcd.com
[04:28:44] <sjw> ^ 03xkcd: Porn Folder
[04:29:14] <SpallsHurgenson> I left my webcam running once... it was a mistake.
[04:29:25] <SpallsHurgenson> the hood is not for my safety, it's for the rest of the world's :)
[04:30:39] <Konomi> can't argue with that
[04:33:31] <SpallsHurgenson> awwww :(
[04:39:53] <juggs> maybe your rj-45 jack needs lining with tinfoil too to keep everyone totaly safe spalls
[04:40:33] <SpallsHurgenson> I think my mobo has wireless and bluetooth too, though. and I'm pretty sure that slot in the front is for pigeons :)
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[04:41:57] <SpallsHurgenson> see, if he didn't have all his computers routed throuh nexus he'd still have a connection or three to stay with us :)
[04:45:03] * juggs hands SpallsHurgenson the emergency Faraday cage
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[04:53:40] <Subsentient> Ok then.
[04:53:42] <Subsentient> $wz
[04:53:43] <aqu4> No games available.
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[05:06:20] <Subsentient> Well, it seems NEXUS is now stable enough to be used generally by me.
[05:07:09] <Subsentient> I got three machines connected and I deleted my config for the generic servers. it now all goes through NEXUS.
[05:08:29] <juggs> good work
[05:09:35] <Subsentient> juggs: hehe I gotta fix something. send me a /version
[05:09:37] <Subsentient> see what you get
[05:10:59] <chr> Three xchats and a ChatZilla
[05:11:03] <Subsentient> yep
[05:11:11] <Subsentient> one of them on a PowerPC mac.
[05:11:39] <chr> two on SubLinux :)
[05:11:42] <chr> sublinux++
[05:11:42] <Bender> karma - sublinux: 3
[05:11:43] <Subsentient> Indeed.
[05:11:54] <Subsentient> Those would be my netbook and my main workstation.
[05:12:34] <Subsentient> I was afraid working with SubLinux would be a pain when I was building it, but it seems to have turned out pretty good. I'm glad I'm wit SubLinux.
[05:12:58] <chr> "I got two home distros and a macintosh"
[05:13:26] <Subsentient> hehe
[05:13:52] <Subsentient> I had to patch the XChat source to get classic XChat to build.
[05:14:07] <chr> no hexchat?
[05:14:11] <Subsentient> Nahh.
[05:14:11] <chr> or exchat
[05:14:20] <Subsentient> I *like* this version of XChat.
[05:14:28] <chr> or any of the other hundred forks, though I recently heard most of the forks are crap
[05:14:38] <Subsentient> Indeed.
[05:15:04] <chr> apparently some versions of hexchat have issues with clipdrawing long nicks
[05:15:08] <chr> xchat
[05:15:49] <Subsentient> ahh
[05:15:58] <Subsentient> yeh XChat generally serves me well.
[05:16:53] <chr> well now that you've got nexus going on, you can setup ii and a cron job to bacon++ and other stuff you like :D
[05:17:10] <chr> maybe $burrito someone every couple hours
[05:17:53] <chr> ooh, aqu4 could use a timer/random event system
[05:19:28] <Subsentient> hehe
[05:19:32] <Subsentient> maybe
[05:19:40] <Subsentient> If I recall however
[05:19:47] <Subsentient> her networking model makes that impossible/
[05:19:56] <chr> maybe when it's quiet for a long time, $godzirra mode activiate
[05:20:19] <Subsentient> NEXUS is single threaded and uses nonblocking sockets, where as aqu4 is single threaded and uses BLOCKING sockets.
[05:21:24] <chr> aqu4 needs a descendant then
[05:21:30] <chr> all assembly
[05:21:38] <Subsentient> I could MAKE her use nonblocking sockets but id
[05:21:39] <Subsentient> it'd
[05:21:43] <Subsentient> kill some portability
[05:22:06] <chr> yeah, you can just hook up ii or something through nexus and we'll never know
[05:22:15] <Subsentient> yeah
[05:22:51] <Subsentient> limme see...
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[05:23:23] <Subsentient> Tere
[05:23:25] <Subsentient> There.
[05:23:35] <Subsentient> That was weird
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[05:23:45] <Subsentient> There's a large lag right now.
[05:23:53] <Subsentient> of at least two seconds.
[05:24:15] <Subsentient> It seems to be a NEXUS problem
[05:24:20] <Subsentient> ok it cleared up
[05:24:24] <Subsentient> that was weird
[05:24:36] <Subsentient> probably wifi
[05:24:41] <Subsentient> yeh it's instant again now
[05:24:49] <Subsentient> derp
[05:24:52] <Subsentient> yep
[05:24:55] <Subsentient> insantanious
[05:25:04] <chr> better switch to epoll()
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[05:25:34] <Subsentient> ok then.
[05:25:44] <Subsentient> Again with the lag and stuff.
[05:25:50] <Subsentient> Damn.
[05:26:08] <Subsentient> I wonder what causes that
[05:26:13] <Subsentient> aaaand it's working again
[05:26:17] <juggs> yerp 1.5 seconds for me, then went back to zilch
[05:26:46] <chr> 139ms to nexus, 0 to quassel core
[05:26:47] <Subsentient> How bizarre.
[05:26:55] <Subsentient> Derp.
[05:27:15] <Subsentient> I wonder what routine is causing that. NEXUS is not particularly complicated.
[05:27:18] <chr> or maybe the lag isn't to nexus; not sure
[05:32:29] <Subsentient> yeh because NEXUS *does* send a /names list and whatnot, but it's not really a big thing
[05:32:36] <Subsentient> and if NEXUS was locked up with some computation, it
[05:32:40] <Subsentient> would not respond at all
[05:32:46] <Subsentient> not just intermittently respond
[05:34:29] <juggs> Subsentient, I get lag spikes to this ircd all the time, but I put that down to my shit connection
[05:39:55] <Subsentient> https://www.youtube.com
[05:39:56] <sjw> ^ 03Conker's Bad Fur Day - The Great Mighty Poo - YouTube
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[05:56:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Webcast Funerals Growing More Popular - http://sylnt.us - telepresence
[06:00:32] <juggs> coffee++
[06:00:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 908
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[07:06:28] <Konomi> anyone happen to know what ip routers tend to pick for ipv6?
[07:06:44] <Konomi> aka 192.168.0.1 is pretty common for home routers what do they generally use for ipv6
[07:06:51] <Konomi> if they still use NAT I guess
[07:07:36] <crutchy> ipv6? wtf is that?
[07:08:03] <crutchy> part of a wombat's testacle?
[07:09:05] <crutchy> ~define ipv6 router address
[07:09:19] <exec> ipv6 router address: unable to find definition
[07:09:29] <crutchy> is it summin like 1::1
[07:09:53] <JamesNZ> They're usually longer :P
[07:10:14] <crutchy> 1:::::::1
[07:10:26] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[07:10:26] <sjw> ^ 03Wiki: Unique local address
[07:10:28] <Konomi> will be one of these
[07:16:35] <crutchy> hows the weather over your way Konomi?
[07:16:48] <Konomi> just windy
[07:17:01] <crutchy> bit gusty here too
[07:22:09] <crutchy> wow i think i might have just found a major security hole in my bot
[07:23:28] <crutchy> -r die();
[07:23:43] <crutchy> ~say -r die();
[07:23:44] <exec> -r die();
[07:24:26] <crutchy> ~say -E die();
[07:24:28] <exec> -E die();
[07:24:49] <crutchy> http://lab.onsec.ru
[07:24:52] <sjw> ^ 03@ONsec_Lab: Breaking escapeshellarg() news
[07:25:10] <SirFinkus> computer security is terrifying
[07:25:32] <crutchy> i'm not overly worried, but i'm curious
[07:27:13] <crutchy> -E="die();"
[07:30:51] <juggs> 0::1 for localhost IIRC
[07:31:25] <juggs> repeated ::::: can be dropped to just :: IIRC
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[07:34:30] <Konomi> asked someone with ipv6 and their router doesn't bother with NAT so I guess that's the most common thing
[07:35:13] <juggs> I thought NAT was unpossible with ipv6
[07:35:22] <Konomi> it isn't
[07:35:49] <juggs> it isn't unpossible? Meaning it is possible?
[07:36:10] <Konomi> yes it is possible
[07:36:43] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[07:36:44] <sjw> ^ 03Wiki: IPv6 transition mechanisms
[07:36:49] <juggs> ye gads
[07:37:20] <Konomi> hmm did it get depreciated I wonder
[07:37:36] <juggs> that's ipv6 to ipv4 techniques.
[07:38:51] <juggs> I thought ipv6 did away with masquerade, so we go back to purely routing and firewalling. I need to read more.
[07:39:42] <Konomi> I thought it had it as an extra that most never use
[07:41:54] <Konomi> think it might lack it completely will research more later
[07:42:15] <juggs> le sigh - at this rate it'll be ipv8 in 2050 before anything changes. ISPs here seem to be happy to stick with ipv4 and CG-NAT which breaks soooo much stuff it's truely an abomination.
[07:42:25] <Konomi> yep
[07:43:15] <juggs> short sighted wins yet again
[07:44:32] <Konomi> exists
[07:45:21] <Konomi> http://tools.ietf.org
[07:45:21] <sjw> ^ 03RFC 6296 - IPv6-to-IPv6 Network Prefix Translation ( rfc6296.html )
[07:45:52] <Konomi> prefer it didn't myself but meh ;p
[07:47:22] <crutchy> its not eveb 7pm and i'm feeling sheepy
[07:47:30] <juggs> baaah
[07:48:10] <chr> /nick crutchy|sheepy
[07:50:55] <juggs> Konomi, it has its uses when combinating large networks. At least in ipv4 world it did as every private network used 10. / 192.168. / 172.something - so when doing corp mergers you always ended up with conflicts, so it made sense to use NAT between the networks to save a metric tonne of work readdressing things. That's a sane use case, but it shouldn't really come up in ipv6 world.
[07:51:45] <crutchy> at least until every atom has its own ip stack
[07:51:53] <juggs> And in 100 years, someone will be saying, which short sighted numpty thought ipv6 was enough address space :D
[07:52:06] <chr> crutchy: http://xkcd.com
[07:52:07] <sjw> ^ 03xkcd: Nanobots
[07:53:23] <Konomi> hmm nanobots we all know they'll still need to be adminstrated recatally someone get me a terr.. I mean detainee
[07:53:27] <Konomi> nograb
[07:53:38] <chr> =grab Konomi
[07:53:38] <sjw> :(
[07:53:41] <Konomi> ;p
[07:53:47] <crutchy> ~set /xkcd/nanobots=http://xkcd.com/865/
[07:53:48] <exec> 13var "nanobots" set to "http://xkcd.com/865/" in path "/xkcd"
[07:53:52] * Konomi does the evil dance
[07:54:01] <chr> it has a grab function but it just returns false
[07:54:14] <crutchy> !grope Konomi
[07:54:20] <crutchy> broked
[07:55:08] <chr> irc robots are incomplete until they all have the same functionality
[07:55:24] <chr> and have a decent text editor
[07:55:39] <crutchy> and a command line
[07:56:27] <chr> ~ls
[07:56:28] <exec> 13current path for chr: /
[07:56:28] <exec> 13children: to path asdf etc xkcd
[07:56:28] <exec> 13vars: fart
[07:56:41] <chr> ~cat fart
[07:56:51] <crutchy> heh
[07:56:57] <crutchy> good thinkin'
[07:57:38] <crutchy> ~rehash
[07:57:41] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (116 aliases)
[07:57:54] <crutchy> ~cat fart
[07:57:55] <exec> 13fart = https://www.youtube.com
[07:58:12] <crutchy> ~dog fart
[07:58:40] <chr> I wonder if there's a dog command
[07:59:10] <crutchy> or a god command
[07:59:17] <SirFinkus> tmg
[07:59:20] <SirFinkus> err
[07:59:24] <SirFinkus> sv_cheats 1
[07:59:25] <SirFinkus> tgm
[07:59:47] <SirFinkus> oh wait, tgm is morrowing
[07:59:52] <SirFinkus> morrowind even
[08:00:39] <chr> I don't have any of those commands
[08:00:46] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:00:47] <sjw> ^ 03Wiki: IPv6 prefix translation
[08:00:50] * Konomi icks
[08:01:03] * chr pokes the bot cache
[08:01:27] <crutchy> have you run out of ipv4 addresses Konomi?
[08:01:31] <chr> that's a pretty short article
[08:01:44] <chr> And nobody uses it; I think it's a candidate for speedy deletion
[08:01:51] <chr> non-notable
[08:02:08] <crutchy> coverup!
[08:03:48] <chr> hah
[08:03:57] <chr> that's what someone was talking about in #debianfork
[08:04:10] <chr> 'cause one of the guys' wp page was deleted
[08:04:38] <crutchy> but all circlejerks are notable
[08:04:52] <chr> circlejerky++
[08:04:52] <Bender> karma - circlejerky: 2
[08:05:03] <SirFinkus> daily reminder that you can just buy this http://www.mpbio.com
[08:05:04] <chr> taste the meat, not the heat
[08:05:04] <sjw> ^ 03R,S-()-QUINUCLIDINYL BENZILATE (02153697) - MP Biomedicals
[08:05:16] <chr> You should script that
[08:05:20] <chr> Or…have you?
[08:05:21] <SirFinkus> probably
[08:05:44] <crutchy> there seems to be some devuan development going on, though if a dribble is all they can manage now i wonder what will happen when the honeymoon period ends and enthusiasm wanes (like what happened in here)
[08:05:49] <chr> I don't know what it's for
[08:05:59] <chr> Looking it up on the interwebs sounds like a lot of work
[08:06:26] <SirFinkus> idk, seems like things are still moving forward crutchy
[08:06:37] <juggs> duvets++
[08:06:37] <Bender> karma - duvets: 1
[08:06:37] <crutchy> here?
[08:06:51] <SirFinkus> chr: its one of the most terrifying chemical weapons devised by man
[08:06:52] <ctl> Just a trickle
[08:06:59] <SirFinkus> yes, here
[08:07:06] <crutchy> we're all good here. enthusiasm has levelled off a bit, but there seems to be critical mass
[08:07:14] <DuvetWarrior> duvets++
[08:07:14] <Bender> karma - duvets: 2
[08:07:18] <chr> Oh, I figured it was an awesome drug or something
[08:07:24] <SirFinkus> improvements and bugfixes are still being released regularly
[08:07:29] <SirFinkus> well, it kind of is
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[08:07:39] <chr> Come again, DuvetWarrior
[08:07:42] <chr> and again
[08:08:04] <juggs> makes for a messy duvet
[08:08:15] <crutchy> seem to have lost a few in irc, but chromas just won't shut up so there's always some kinda chatter going on :p
[08:08:15] <SirFinkus> https://www.erowid.org
[08:08:15] <sjw> ^ 03Erowid BZ Vault : Description of BZ Effects
[08:08:40] <chr> chromas--
[08:08:40] <Bender> karma - chromas: 58
[08:08:46] <ctl> chromas--
[08:08:46] <Bender> karma - chromas: 57
[08:08:48] <crutchy> juggs: maybe you need a duvet sock
[08:08:57] <crutchy> chromas++
[08:08:57] <Bender> karma - chromas: 58
[08:09:13] <crutchy> chromas++
[08:09:13] <Bender> karma - chromas: 59
[08:09:54] <crutchy> konomi's in the middle of the stick pic
[08:10:12] <chr> I don't think they can do a lot with devuan until they have replacements for the systemd umbrella, like LoginKit, useable
[08:10:30] <chr> because they won't just stick wtih libsystemd-0 or whatever for now and use that stub thinger from debian
[08:10:45] <crutchy> or they'll be 'just another third party repo'
[08:11:07] <chr> They changed their mind on that; that's the plan for the first 'release'
[08:11:21] <chr> well not 'just another'
[08:11:26] <crutchy> hehe. yeah. silly billys
[08:11:43] <juggs> realised it may be a little more work that they first thought?
[08:11:50] <chr> the guy who had the boycottsystemd site pointed the domain at his own site
[08:11:52] <crutchy> yeah i'm real operating system fork you guys want to go skateboards?
[08:12:12] <crutchy> ~get /asdf/skateboards
[08:12:13] <exec> 13skateboards = https://www.youtube.com
[08:12:16] <chr> I pointed them at all the nosystemd stuff in the AUR
[08:12:25] <chr> needs an alias
[08:12:58] <crutchy> just need to cd
[08:13:03] <crutchy> ~cd asdf
[08:13:04] <exec> 13current path for crutchy changed to "/asdf"
[08:13:12] <chr> =botping
[08:13:12] <sjw> aqu4 Bender botcl ciri diego exec Loggie SedBot tama
[08:16:00] <chr> ~cd /bin/porn
[08:16:01] <exec> error: path not found
[08:21:15] <crutchy> ~cowsay yeah i am real man you guys want to go skateboards?
[08:21:16] <exec> ________________________________________
[08:21:17] <exec> / yeah i am real man you guys want to go \
[08:21:17] <exec> \ skateboards? /
[08:21:17] <exec> ----------------------------------------
[08:21:17] <exec> \ ^__^
[08:21:17] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[08:21:17] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[08:21:18] <exec> ||----w |
[08:21:19] <exec> || ||
[08:22:17] <crutchy> tonight's todo: get ~md working
[08:22:18] <juggs> the hell - ice formed on my water
[08:22:21] <JamesNZ> ~cowsay sho' dood
[08:22:22] <exec> ___________
[08:22:22] <exec> < sho' dood >
[08:22:22] <exec> -----------
[08:22:22] <exec> \ ^__^
[08:22:22] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[08:22:22] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[08:22:23] <exec> ||----w |
[08:22:23] <exec> || ||
[08:22:23] <juggs> ~weather
[08:22:25] <exec> Weather for London, UK - currently 41°F / 5°C, mist, humidity 100% - Tuesday partly cloudy (40°F-43°F / 4°C-6°C), Wednesday cloudy (52°F-55°F / 11°C-13°C), Thursday cloudy (53°F-56°F / 12°C-13°C), Friday chance of rain (42°F-53°F / 6°C-12°C) - source: Google
[08:22:59] * juggs engages heating
[08:23:16] <crutchy> ~weather hell
[08:23:17] <exec> Weather for Washington, DC, USA - currently 38°F / 3°C, overcast, wind N at 0 mph, humidity 82% - Tuesday showers (39°F-52°F / 4°C-11°C), Wednesday partly cloudy (32°F-54°F / 0°C-12°C), Thursday partly cloudy (30°F-45°F / -1°C-7°C), Friday partly cloudy (34°F-43°F / 1°C-6°C) - source: Google
[08:24:03] <juggs> not 5C out here in the scruburbs, that's for sure
[08:24:42] <crutchy> what accent are you juggs?
[08:24:57] <crutchy> seems like theres about a thousand british accents
[08:25:16] <juggs> I hold fast to the juggsian accent
[08:26:04] <juggs> tis unique having moved from sw to nw to midlands to se in my all too short years
[08:26:22] <JamesNZ> juggsian++
[08:26:22] <Bender> karma - juggsian: 1
[08:27:14] <crutchy> is that somewhere between john cleese and graham chapman?
[08:27:54] <chr> Nope; everybody's accent is the same as mine
[08:30:39] <juggs> I have no idea crutchy - all I know is in workplaces I have existed that did those ridiculous 360 reviews and became obsessed with powerpoint and helicopter views of things, the best feedback I got was "scary" from co-workers. I'm not sure that's a good or bad thing given the co-workers.
[08:31:31] <crutchy> helicopter views? what are we talking about now?
[08:32:48] <juggs> high level reviews i.e. forget the detail, let's hand wave and generalise to such an extent it makes no sense having a meeting, unless the intention is just to burn an hour or two until the next meeting.
[08:33:18] <crutchy> i'm confusement
[08:34:34] <juggs> work for a corp with lots of employees and float to middle manglement - you'll experience it
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[08:58:45] <crutchy> hmm i'm still lost
[08:58:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Neural Networks Show Promise at Playing Go - http://sylnt.us - considered-joyful
[08:59:22] <crutchy> was this to do with something earlier that i missed?
[08:59:59] <crutchy> or i asked a question that i've since forgotten :p
[09:00:49] <crutchy> brains usually pretty fried by this time
[09:01:12] <chr> that's when you start php coding :D
[09:01:43] <crutchy> yeah :D
[09:02:23] <crutchy> after i stuff my face with crunchy nut cornflakes
[09:02:33] <chr> crunchy_nuts++
[09:02:33] <Bender> karma - crunchy_nuts: 1
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[09:29:02] <crutchy> wtf did i just watch?
[09:29:04] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[09:29:05] <sjw> ^ 03Smart Pipe | Infomercials | Adult Swim - YouTube
[09:39:16] <chr> The tweets, "I want inject nitrates in u hole"
[09:39:28] <chr> mock_infomercials++
[09:39:28] <Bender> karma - mock_infomercials: 1
[11:24:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:24:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 909
[11:25:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> palindromes++
[11:25:28] <Bender> karma - palindromes: 1
[11:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> it annoys me that the word palindrome isn't one
[11:28:07] <chr> ++semordnilap
[11:28:07] <sjw> Karma - semordnilap: 1
[11:28:36] <chr> also a 909 is a thynthethither
[11:31:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define thynthethither some shit chromas just made up
[11:31:26] <exec> [wiktionary] 3thynthethither some shit chromas just made up: Sorry: the page title you requested is not supported by our software. It is possible that the entry you are looking for is below; if not, please request it or add it yourself.
[11:31:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define-add thynthethither some shit chromas just made up
[11:31:42] <exec> syntax: ~define-add <term>, <definition>
[11:31:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define-add thynthethither, some shit chromas just made up
[11:31:49] <exec> definition for term "thynthethither" set to "some shit chromas just made up"
[11:31:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> stop arguing with me, bot
[11:32:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.political-humor.org
[11:32:55] <sjw> ^ 03Single Shot and Standard Capacity Donuts vs Evil Assault High-Capacity Donuts
[11:34:03] <chr> no way, cops need the shittiest doughnuts
[11:34:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, only the military get assault donuts?
[11:35:36] <chr> cops can have the ones with that shitty yellow custard
[11:35:59] <chr> But people should get all the high capacity doughnuts they want
[11:36:08] <chr> But not cops; they're not people
[11:36:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, well thas fine then.
[11:36:51] <chr> lol. assault donuts
[11:37:15] <chr> doughnuts don't kill people; high cholesterol does
[11:37:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i gotta have my extra long semi-automatic chocolate ones.
[11:37:40] <chr> Bender: grab TheMightyBuzzard
[11:37:40] <Bender> Added quote 307
[11:39:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, now i want donuts. and the nearest shop is over 15 miles away.
[11:41:10] <chr> doughnuts++
[11:41:10] <Bender> karma - doughnuts: 5
[11:41:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> not_having_doughnuts--
[11:41:53] <Bender> karma - not_having_doughnuts: -1
[11:42:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto donuts
[11:42:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh well, got the good coffee part of that meal covered at least
[11:43:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:43:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 910
[11:44:45] <crutchy> anyone heard of Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo?
[11:45:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp
[11:45:44] <crutchy> weird japanese thing, but its really kinda interesting and inspiring
[11:46:03] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[11:46:03] <sjw> ^ 03Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo Episode 4 Full -English Sub- HD I reuploaded - YouTube
[11:46:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> not for me then. it might taint my cynicism.
[11:46:23] <crutchy> lol
[11:46:49] <crutchy> i've turned into a grumpy old fart
[11:47:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i been practicing up for that for years.
[11:47:49] <crutchy> lol you been beating up my poor bot?
[11:47:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> started when i saw a bunch of old guys hanging out drinking coffee outside the blacksmith's shop (yeah, we still had one until like 5 years ago)
[11:48:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> said ima be that when i grow up
[11:48:12] <crutchy> blacksmithing++
[11:48:12] <Bender> karma - blacksmithing: 1
[11:48:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> blacksmithing++
[11:48:31] <Bender> karma - blacksmithing: 2
[11:49:00] <crutchy> blacksmithing is an art, not a science. unfortunately i wouldn't be very good at it
[11:49:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> they mostly did farrier work, when they did work. what they really mostly did was sit around in lawn chairs drinking coffee.
[11:50:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> but it was a cool shop cause everything sides the anvil and a few hand tools they'd made there themselves. which is kinda impressive.
[11:51:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> having a drill press and a lathe is sweet but having ones that you made yourself is just awesome.
[11:56:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, feels like another video games day instead of a coding day. long as i finish up "you can't moderate your own comments" and get it rolled out to dev before friday i'm on schedule.
[11:59:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> two aspects of that are don't show the mod inputs if the comment's uid/ipid == your uid/ipid and return an error state+message if you monkey around and submit a moderation for it anyway.
[12:00:13] <chr> is the already-existing that-code gone now?
[12:00:33] <chr> clarity++
[12:00:33] <Bender> karma - clarity: 1
[12:01:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Continuous Surveillence of Public Space Ruled Unconstitutional - http://sylnt.us - What-me-warrant?
[12:06:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> chr, the already existing code did it for the whole discussion. it's not gone now, just unused.
[12:06:33] <chr> there's also code that does it per comment when you post AC
[12:07:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> is there then?
[12:07:10] <chr> yeah
[12:07:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, well i'll figure it out in any case.
[12:07:32] <chr> at least, if you've posted logged in with the AC checkbox checked
[12:07:48] <chr> it also secretly undoes any mods in a thread if you post AC without the usual announcement
[12:08:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, yeah that i've got cleared up.
[12:08:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> mod and post is working, it's just working so well that you can mod your own shat.
[12:09:00] <chr> nothin' wrong with that
[12:09:34] <chr> ( this is where tama would pop up with http://www.youtube.com )
[12:09:34] <sjw> ^ 03WKUK - Season 5 - Spanking Dads - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[12:09:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> well aside from every mod point ever would go to their own posts
[12:10:04] <chr> Let 'em, but take away ten karmas
[12:10:31] <chr> hehe, or only let us mod ourselves down
[12:10:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. rather have the functionality to say comment X is off limits.
[12:10:55] <chr> "Whoops, didn't read; don't know what I'm talking about. Mod mese'f down"
[12:11:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd actually be funny but there's plenty of folks willing to help a brother out in those circumstances.
[12:22:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, booting winders to waste time on video games.
[12:22:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> see you lot sometime this afternoon.
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[12:50:41] <crutchy> heh this japanese show is farking funny :D
[13:01:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux Kernel Locking and Scalability - http://sylnt.us - walk-and-chew-gum
[13:29:29] <crutchy> i think that weird manga stuff has inspired me. hopefully i can hold onto it by tomorrow arvo so i can move all the crap off my desk and start doing some real programming again
[13:31:18] <crutchy> not that bot programming isn't fun and i'll prolly still do some of it, but i used to be able to program for 8 hours straight after work and get up for work again in the morning. fiik how but i kinda want that again
[13:47:12] <crutchy> ++coffee
[13:47:12] <sjw> Karma - coffee: 195
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[14:28:22] <Blackmoore> oh boy
[14:28:28] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[14:28:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 911
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[14:37:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Three more days
[14:37:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Three more days
[14:37:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Three more days
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[14:41:39] <ar> hm?
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[14:48:17] <Konomi> who knows
[14:57:44] <Konomi> maybe he's going back to his home planet
[15:03:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tech Giants Rally Around Microsoft to Protect "Your" Data Overseas - http://sylnt.us - be-a-shame-if-anything-should-happen-to-it
[15:11:05] <Blackmoore> so much politics and news in the queue.. not enough tech.
[15:12:05] <Konomi> that's what happens when you have a world more fixated on selfies and terrorists
[15:12:28] <Konomi> what's the submissions link again?
[15:22:20] <Blackmoore> http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:22] <sjw> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[15:22:49] <Konomi> hey no systemd ones
[15:22:54] <Blackmoore> hehe
[15:22:54] <Konomi> I better submi...
[15:23:25] <Blackmoore> *shrug* it's tech..
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[15:26:53] <Konomi> waterbottle tech ready
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[15:45:43] <Ethanol-fueled> Oy
[15:46:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Oy-yoy-yoy! Look at this sorry sack of schmucks!
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[15:52:21] <Blackmoore> cripes. you hacked off enough man-parts to fill a sack. that's sick.
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[18:24:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Goddamn, today is a boring day.
[18:24:27] <Ethanol-fueled> meatus.
[18:24:30] <Ethanol-fueled> fistula
[18:24:47] <Ethanol-fueled> "meatus" is a funny word.
[18:25:38] <Ethanol-fueled> ~define meatus
[18:25:39] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3meatus: the dickhole
[18:25:48] <Ethanol-fueled> ~define fistula
[18:25:49] <mechanicjay> eww
[18:25:50] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3fistula: a fistula is any type of necrotic hole from one thing to another on the body. Like a bladder to anal fistula, or vaginal to anal. Each more disgusting than the last.
[18:26:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Yikes, I didn't think the definition would be THAT vulgar.
[18:26:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Oy
[18:26:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Jeez
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[18:26:47] <JamesNZ> Well, it is urban dictionary after all.
[18:31:00] <Blackmoore> i had a freind ask me for something horrible to ask Siri to look up.
[18:31:24] <Blackmoore> i decided Santorum would scar her less that blue waffles
[18:31:56] <mechanicjay> I'm not familiar with "blue waffles"...I don't think I want to be
[18:32:03] <Blackmoore> no.
[18:32:11] <Blackmoore> never look that up.
[18:32:33] <Blackmoore> and under NO circimstances do an image search for it
[18:32:33] <mechanicjay> do I need to fire up TOR over a vpn to avoid getting fired to look that one up?
[18:33:00] <Blackmoore> no. the images will haunt you forever
[18:33:35] <mechanicjay> so, in otherwords, under no circumstances should we do a ~define on blue waffles here?
[18:33:59] <mechanicjay> damn it, now I'm curious as hell
[18:35:33] <Blackmoore> it's an infection.
[18:36:13] <Blackmoore> likely a form of "gangreen" type of bactirials.
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[18:36:45] <Blackmoore> thats the best i can do without damaging people
[18:38:21] <mechanicjay> urban dictionary in a text only browser, tells me it a hoax and doesn't exist.
[18:43:42] <Blackmoore> well, it's not really urban slang. more of amedical thing
[18:44:32] <Blackmoore> it does have a real name; but i dont recall what. my last pathology class was 20 years ago
[18:56:51] <Blackmoore> (now depressed about age)
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[19:09:46] <Blackmoore> ello TheMightyBuzzard
[19:10:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> evenin, Blackmoore
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[19:16:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> unproductive day of playin video games all morning. calling it a good day so far.
[19:20:40] <elf> that's not unproductive!
[19:36:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 80's Computers behind the Iron Curtain - http://sylnt.us - Soviet-Nostalga
[20:24:44] <Blackmoore> http://www.theonion.com
[20:24:44] <systemd> ^ 03Rotation Of Earth Plunges Entire North American Continent Into Darkness | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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[20:46:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, this day is draggin' like hell.
[20:47:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Tomorrow's going to drag like a sonofabitch, and then Thursday and Friday are going to be a fistfuck.
[20:49:06] * Ethanol-fueled should just take the next 2 days off
[20:49:23] * Ethanol-fueled kicks crutchy in the meatus
[20:50:51] <chr> Meatus Cletus
[20:53:59] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[20:54:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Come to think of it, I should have taken this week off as well as the next.
[20:56:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Meats.
[20:56:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Be afraid of Jihad, fellow White-boys.
[20:56:36] <ciri> ok Ethanol-fueled
[20:56:38] <chr> How's the Python stuff coming?
[20:56:49] <Ethanol-fueled> chr, just wrapped up that class.
[20:57:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Luckilly my partner was an overachiever and not only added an extra feature but handled the presentation as well.
[20:57:18] <chr> Nice. Any feedback? Were they blown away?
[20:57:22] <chr> cool
[20:57:38] <Ethanol-fueled> chr, honestly, I don't care. I'm too old for that shit.
[20:57:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Just give me the piece of paper already. I'm not even gonna walk the graduation or anything.
[20:58:25] <chr> I took a class with vb (not vd) and the other students were in awe of such things as auto-seleting text in an edit field
[20:58:35] <Ethanol-fueled> My idea of celebrating will involve lots of beer and my few closest friends.
[20:58:50] <chr> What? Since when do you drink alcohol?
[20:59:08] <Ethanol-fueled> chr, there are things in life that drive a man to drink.
[20:59:16] <Ethanol-fueled> The first being that alcohol is fucking awesome.
[20:59:47] <Ethanol-fueled> haha chr, autoselecting in a text-field is overachiever shit at that level.
[21:00:05] <Ethanol-fueled> I bet you filled out tooltips for every control
[21:00:13] <Ethanol-fueled> and tab orders, and everything
[21:01:00] <chr> and made buttons highlight when the mouse went over (vb 6 or so, so they didn't do it already)
[21:06:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[21:06:45] <Ethanol-fueled> There is a shitton of VB code still deployed in industry.
[21:10:16] <Ethanol-fueled> My employer plans to standardize everything using LabView
[21:10:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Bahaha.
[21:10:58] <Ethanol-fueled> As it stands we have a big mishash of VB, C, C++, Python, Perl. It's a clusterfuck.
[21:11:37] <chr> Do you have experience with LabView? You could be on the team that moves everything over and puts everyone else who doesn't know it out of a job
[21:11:39] <Ethanol-fueled> Typical garage mentality. Filling an immediate need by whatever whim of whatever engineer and however the hell they wanted to do it.
[21:12:33] <Ethanol-fueled> chr, I have considered it, but because there are things going on I doubt I will.
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[21:13:08] <chr> Learn perl. Then you can jump ship and come make the big bucks at Soylent
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[21:13:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Wouldn't that be nice.
[21:13:41] <chr> I think the starting pay is 60 internets per hour
[21:13:57] <Ethanol-fueled> if I can kick people from IRC it would be worth it.
[21:14:08] <mechanicjay> chr: are we paying that much these days?
[21:14:42] <chr> mechanicjay: only to the newcomers. Original staff is about to get screwed over…
[21:15:29] <Ethanol-fueled> how so chr?
[21:16:25] <chr> Gonna entice some young kids with high internet pay to screw things up, then offshore it all
[21:16:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice. that's what's going on with my employer.
[21:17:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Though it's hard to screw up what's already screwed up.
[21:17:58] <Ethanol-fueled> The question is, when do I bail?
[21:18:24] <Ethanol-fueled> The bennies are much better than the competition, and 'dat big corporate name. But there's some shit going down, and it's not looking too well for anybody.
[21:19:08] <chr> Get out and start your own thing. Worked for Dr Dre
[21:20:19] <Ethanol-fueled> chr, Dre never started "his own thing," he was always a servant to his...um...Semitic overlords.
[21:20:46] <chr> Well, he got out from under one bad thing and went to the next I guess
[21:21:49] <chr> Ethanol-fueled: Maybe you can use your company's name to get ahead at the competition
[21:22:00] <chr> if you do it before their name is tarnished
[21:22:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, but I was hoping that I could at least wait until late spring.
[21:24:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, it's gettin' there fast. We've been fucking our customers over for years.
[21:24:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Now that there's viable competition, they're all bailing.
[21:25:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, shucks. Gonna bail now. See Y'all this weekend. Hahahheheheheooooooo!
[21:25:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice shootin the shit with 'yas.
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[22:53:28] <paulej72> wtf my connection died at work.
[22:58:36] <Blackmoore> wireless or wired?
[23:16:44] <paulej72> wired, but just my irc client disconnected it looks like.
[23:17:27] <paulej72> OH I was trying to burn an win 7 iso on my computer that was located on a network share, that may have done it.
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