#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-10

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[00:56:57] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Bytram|away] by juggler
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[01:06:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Another Giant Declares Nuclear Dead In Fracking America - http://sylnt.us - my-precious
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[01:35:09] <SpallsHurgenson> time for another IRC Sing-Along Night. Today is Beiber Night!
[01:36:40] <SirFinkus> nope
[01:36:43] * juggs fetches the emergency earplugs
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[01:38:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> bewbs++ #who needs a reason they're bewbs
[01:38:31] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 37
[01:38:42] <SirFinkus> ./voteban SpallsHurgenson
[01:38:53] <SpallsHurgenson> awww :)
[01:39:25] <SpallsHurgenson> how do I vote in favor of that? :)
[01:39:35] <chromas> /quit
[01:39:52] <chromas> then we'll do it behind your back
[01:39:55] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but then I can just come right back in. we need a more permanent solution :)
[01:40:40] <SirFinkus> ./voteexectue SpallsHurgenson
[01:41:01] <juggs> crutchy, yeh, the response to the call to arms on the site was a little depressing - however, the mail responses were very much not so :D
[01:41:08] <SpallsHurgenson> ./votebarbecue SpallsHurgenson
[01:42:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought the bionic bra responses were kind of laconic. plenty of bewbs jokes to be made there and only 15 replies
[01:43:09] <chromas> What? There's not enough tittering?
[01:43:19] <SpallsHurgenson> maybe Soylent's audience is maturing? :)
[01:43:30] <chromas> sounds like it's time to fork then
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[01:43:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, i really hope not
[01:43:51] <juggs> I should have predicted the bewb hilarity :D
[01:44:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should have really kept abreast of the comments
[01:44:17] <SpallsHurgenson> well, stack the deck; find out if Ethanol has any siblings interested in posting on soylent :)
[01:56:40] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:56:40] <Bender> karma - tea: 303
[01:56:41] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:56:41] <Bender> karma - tea: 304
[01:56:49] <SpallsHurgenson> probably not surprising in whole to anyone, but I still found it interesting https://www.youtube.com
[01:56:50] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Truth About 'Truth Serum' - YouTube
[01:57:09] <Bytram> coffee++
[01:57:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 893
[01:57:12] <Bytram> coffee++
[01:57:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 894
[01:57:14] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:57:14] <Bender> karma - tea: 305
[01:57:15] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:57:15] <Bender> karma - tea: 306
[01:57:19] <Bytram> tea--
[01:57:19] <Bender> karma - tea: 305
[01:57:23] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:57:23] <Bender> karma - tea: 306
[01:57:30] <Bytram> LOL!
[01:57:38] <Bytram> coffee++
[01:57:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 895
[01:57:41] <SpallsHurgenson> either JamesNZ is really slow today, or he really likes tea :)
[01:57:49] <Bytram> ROFL
[01:57:50] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # Cheats!
[01:57:50] <Bender> karma - tea: 307
[01:57:50] <ciri> HEHEHEHE
[01:57:53] <SpallsHurgenson> (possibly he needs some coffee to get up to speed :)
[01:57:55] <JamesNZ> Shut up ciri.
[01:58:01] * JamesNZ slaps SpallsHurgenson
[01:58:38] <SpallsHurgenson> now we see the violence inherent in the system!
[01:58:51] * JamesNZ rages
[01:59:16] <Bytram> Hmmm? JamesNZ rages at the machine?
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[01:59:31] <JamesNZ> No, in demonstration for SpallsHurgenson :)
[01:59:43] <SpallsHurgenson> help, help, I'm being repressed?
[01:59:47] <Bytram> oh, quite alright then. Carry on.
[02:00:01] <Bytram> is that when you are pressed, and then pressed again?
[02:00:10] * JamesNZ rages on
[02:02:30] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[02:02:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03T-Mobile launches new $100 unlimited shared data plan - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[02:02:32] <SpallsHurgenson> for some reason I imagine JamesNZ running around his room like an angry gorilla
[02:02:47] <JamesNZ> Hah.
[02:03:11] <juggs> all we need now is for aqu4 to do its Godzilla
[02:03:23] <SirFinkus> SpallsHurgenson: turns out if you inject scopolamine hydrobromide into the spine, it causes extreme pain and usually the truth can be extracted
[02:03:26] <Bytram> close. try "Ooooh. Oooooh Oooooh!"
[02:03:46] * SpallsHurgenson is really cheap with his cell-phone plan... even $100/mo is too much for me :)
[02:04:03] <SirFinkus> Sodium pentothal is only effective around 10% of the time
[02:04:17] <JamesNZ> I think I spend about $20 every few months.
[02:04:36] <SpallsHurgenson> $20/three months for me too. 'Course, I got no data
[02:04:38] <Bytram> I bet they cap it at 2 GB at full speed, and then all-you-can-eat at 64kbs.
[02:04:54] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: Ah, same here.
[02:05:07] <SpallsHurgenson> but honestly, if I want data I just walk three stores down and look, a Starbucks! :)
[02:06:01] <SpallsHurgenson> the lack of a data plan might be more annoying if I lived somewhere where there wasn't a free wireless hotspot every twenty-six feet
[02:06:13] <Bytram> just stick a pringles cantenna out the window and point it there.
[02:07:07] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but then I'd have to carry around the pringles can everywhere I go
[02:07:08] <SpallsHurgenson> and a window
[02:07:31] <Bytram> LOL! Touche'
[02:08:06] <JamesNZ> If you have an MS phone you can carry windows around :P
[02:08:37] <Bytram> JamesNZ++ # +1 Punny/Inventive
[02:08:37] <Bender> karma - jamesnz: -18
[02:09:01] <Bytram> (my .sig is: "Witt is intellect, dancing.")
[02:09:17] <SpallsHurgenson> now you are being silly. I can imagine carrying around a pringles cantenna, or a window... but using a windows phone? that's just ridiculous!
[02:09:27] <JamesNZ> :P
[02:19:36] <Bytram> !uid
[02:19:36] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4924, owned by Aurean
[02:21:08] <Bytram> well, time for me to call it a night.
[02:21:11] <Bytram> best to you all!
[02:21:27] <JamesNZ> \o
[02:21:30] <juggs> night Bytram
[02:37:44] <Bytram> juggs: and a good night to you! Best wishes as you take the helm of this mighty vessel as it heads out upon the open seas!
[02:38:20] <juggs> Just hope we don't hit the reef :D
[02:38:53] <SpallsHurgenson> screw the reef, I'm worried about the krakens
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[02:39:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip, that started from this tropic port, aboard this tiny ship
[02:40:17] <SpallsHurgenson> dibs on the movie star!
[02:40:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> doh
[02:42:06] <chromas> By.tram must be Gilligan. We'll blame him for everything!
[02:44:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> done!
[02:44:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab chromas
[02:44:19] <Bender> Added quote 293
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[02:46:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[02:46:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Gilligan's Island Opening Theme from Season Two "The Professor and Mary Anne" - YouTube
[02:46:10] <chromas> I watched reruns on Nickelodeon a while back and was surprised at how many things he didn't do but took the blame for
[02:46:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> great show really
[02:47:32] <Bytram|away> yuppers. for quite a laugh, I ran across something out on the net a while back comparing the seven people on the Minnow to the Seven Deadly Sins
[02:47:35] <chromas> Oh yeah, they had little joke bios during ad breaks; the professor and Mary Anne they called "the rest" like in the song
[02:47:50] <Bytram|away> (pride greed lust anger glutony envy sloth)
[02:48:16] <SpallsHurgenson> chromas: only in the first season; they got mentioned by name later on :)
[02:48:27] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.upworthy.com
[02:48:27] <NetCraft> ^ 0316 Years Ago, A Doctor Published A Study. It Was Completely Made Up, And It Made Us All Sicker.
[02:48:48] <Bytram|away> btw, did you know that the theme song to Gilligan's Island has the same meter as Amazing Grace?
[02:49:11] * Bytram|away sings AG to the tune of GA
[02:49:25] <Bytram|away> and with that, I must bid you all adieu.
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[02:49:50] <SpallsHurgenson> reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com
[02:49:51] <NetCraft> ^ 03Imagine a jump (Lennon - Van Halen) - YouTube
[02:52:04] <chromas> What. Gilligan's Island is like 400 times the speed of Amazing Grace, which is a tired and worn out song anyway
[02:53:22] <chromas> infographics++
[02:53:22] <Bender> karma - infographics: 1
[02:53:53] <SpallsHurgenson> http://jalopnik.com
[02:53:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03Owning A Ferrari For A Year Was A Disappointment
[03:07:24] <SpallsHurgenson> http://www.theregister.co.uk
[03:07:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03Home Wi-Fi security's just as good as '90s PC security! Wait, what? • The Register
[03:07:40] <SpallsHurgenson> (the internet sure is interesting tonight!)
[03:08:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silk Casing Enables Long-Lasting, Implantable Wi-Fi Medical Devices - http://sylnt.us - resistance-is-futile
[03:08:45] <SpallsHurgenson> silk... is there anything it CAN'T do?
[03:10:12] <SpallsHurgenson> (other than survive a trip through the washing machine)
[03:16:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet zombie jesus, we got us a perl monk answered the call to arms
[03:16:35] <juggs> thought that would interest you :D
[03:18:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> relieves me like you wouldn't believe
[03:18:19] <JamesNZ> monks++
[03:18:19] <Bender> karma - monks: 1
[03:18:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> might actually get some pointers on this job even
[03:20:07] <juggs> Seems it may have been worthwhile putting out my silly call to arms - hope things work out
[03:21:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> if that guy's half as good as he sounds, he's at least as good as me. plus two or three others.
[03:21:45] <juggs> eep
[03:23:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, i'm a hacker rather than a programmer at heart. makes me really good at wrangling other folks code but writing my own from scratch takes longer than it does a proper software engineer.
[03:23:52] <juggs> have we just gone from a scarcity of devs to a glut?
[03:24:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gods n the little fishes i hope so
[03:24:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> might actually clear the issues queue
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[03:28:30] <juggs> then we can get to work on beta!! \o/
[03:28:32] * juggs ducks
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[03:31:10] <SpallsHurgenson> how about SoylentBusinessIntelligence first?
[03:31:51] <juggs> what would that be?
[03:32:40] <SpallsHurgenson> or maybe SoyTV
[03:37:43] <SpallsHurgenson> or SoyDeals (geez, Dice is getting desperate)
[03:38:20] <JamesNZ> SoyLentils?
[03:39:30] <juggs> I'm too tired to think of anything witty - time to cower under the duvet for a time. Later o/
[03:39:42] <JamesNZ> \o
[03:40:33] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm pretty sure wittiness isn't required here
[04:05:03] <chromas> yeah, we've got SpallsHurgenson and TheMightyBuzzard in the Witty Rejoinders dept
[04:06:10] <SpallsHurgenson> mine are just rejoinders
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[04:19:04] <SirFinkus> according to whatever talk radio show my dad is listening too, anal injections were instrumental in the assassination of osama bin laden
[04:19:12] <SirFinkus> go figure
[04:20:46] <chromas> I guess that's why they tell you to watch your ass
[04:21:03] <chromas> or cover it
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[04:21:58] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I gotta admit I do have a really nice ass
[04:22:02] * SpallsHurgenson covets his own ass
[04:22:13] <chromas> !grab SpallsHurgenson
[04:22:13] <Bender> Added quote 294
[04:22:16] <chromas> !quote -1
[04:22:16] <Bender> Quote -1 - <SpallsHurgenson> well, I gotta admit I do have a really nice ass
[04:22:17] <SirFinkus> only because you haven't seen my ass
[04:22:26] <chromas> !grab SirFinkus
[04:22:26] <Bender> Added quote 295
[04:23:22] <chromas> Well, now we're gonna have to find out whose ass is best by sneaking up and poking from behind
[04:23:33] <SpallsHurgenson> buy me dinner first
[04:24:14] * chromas prepares the injections
[04:24:38] <SpallsHurgenson> I'll have you know I'm not that sorta girl!
[04:27:20] <SirFinkus> we're not the bad guys... ...right?
[04:29:22] <SpallsHurgenson> I might be.
[04:30:29] <SpallsHurgenson> how can I tell?
[04:30:46] <SirFinkus> have you put a syringe in anyone's anus lately?
[04:30:54] <Konomi> wat
[04:31:02] <SpallsHurgenson> in the anus? no.
[04:31:16] <SirFinkus> what about waterboarding?
[04:31:25] <SpallsHurgenson> never on the first date
[04:31:26] <Konomi> you could always put things up their anus
[04:31:47] <SirFinkus> what about listening to private phone calls and reading private emails?
[04:32:02] <SpallsHurgenson> every day.
[04:32:08] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, you mean other than mine?
[04:32:18] <SirFinkus> or operating with no legal oversight with public funding?
[04:32:20] <SirFinkus> yeah
[04:32:58] <SpallsHurgenson> do bank robberies count as public funding?
[04:33:06] <Konomi> http://boingboing.net
[04:33:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03CIA torturers forced hummus, raisins, pasta and nuts into detainees' anuses - Boing Boing
[04:33:12] <Konomi> you thought I was joking ;p ?
[04:33:20] <SirFinkus> or injecting scopolamine into people's spine?
[04:33:35] <SpallsHurgenson> that's not where you put hummus!
[04:33:47] <SirFinkus> that's where the hummus comes out
[04:34:07] <SirFinkus> if I've had too much cheesecake
[04:34:31] <chromas> Damn, step away from the Grab button for five minutes…
[04:35:21] <SpallsHurgenson> we could recreate the conversation for you, if that would help
[04:36:18] <chromas> That's okay; I'll just cheat later
[04:38:21] * chromas prepares the injections
[04:43:49] <SpallsHurgenson> gee, this sort of stuff usually doesn't happen until Friday night
[04:45:52] * SpallsHurgenson suddenly realizes the reason his download is taking forever is because he limited it to 25kbps.
[04:48:48] * SirFinkus wishes his download wasn't taking forever
[04:50:00] <SirFinkus> my client only want to connect to one peer periodically
[05:03:11] <JamesNZ> Konomi: That's pretty damning.
[05:06:13] <Subsentient> $tell TheMightyBuzzard https://github.com
[05:06:13] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[05:06:16] <SirFinkus> read the entire [redacted] report
[05:06:20] <Subsentient> $tell janrinok https://github.com
[05:06:20] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[05:06:29] <Konomi> JamesNZ: makes me sad to be alive ;p
[05:06:37] <SirFinkus> we're running out of moral high ground vs the nazis
[05:06:56] <SirFinkus> I guess we aren't gassing jews, but I don't want to give them any idea
[05:06:57] <SirFinkus> s
[05:08:01] <Konomi> s/jews/muslims
[05:08:01] * sedctl offers Kunumi a /
[05:08:10] * Konomi offers sedctl her middle finger
[05:08:34] <SirFinkus> we aren't really gassing anyone en masse yet
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[05:08:51] <Konomi> they got him
[05:08:56] <Konomi> run for your lives ._.
[05:08:56] <Subsentient> Who gassed Finkus?
[05:09:05] <JamesNZ> It was the CIA!
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[05:09:21] <SirFinkus> are we?
[05:09:28] <Subsentient> SirFinkus: you're alive!!!
[05:09:33] <JamesNZ> We thought they gassed you SirFinkus :P
[05:09:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux Kernel 3.18 Released - http://sylnt.us - Tux-loves-Lutefisk
[05:09:45] <Subsentient> $beer SirFinkus
[05:09:45] * aqu4 gives SirFinkus a cold can of beer
[05:09:50] <SirFinkus> I accidently connected to the slow wifi network
[05:09:55] <SirFinkus> appreciate it
[05:10:04] <Subsentient> Ooh, kernel 3.18.
[05:10:08] <Konomi> don't do it
[05:10:18] <Subsentient> Don't do what?
[05:10:37] <SirFinkus> too late, I already opened the beer
[05:11:33] <Konomi> http://www.phoronix.com
[05:11:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03[Phoronix] Linux 3.18 Kernel Released, But It Doesn't Fix That Odd Regression
[05:13:38] <Subsentient2> Konomi: Yeah seems to be a tiny bug.
[05:14:38] * Subsentient2 compiles a 3.18 kernel for SubLinux
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[06:01:16] <SpallsHurgenson> huh, I'm probably the last person in the world to learn this... but JJ Abrams was involved in the making of Lost
[06:01:57] <SpallsHurgenson> hated Cloverfield, hated Lost, hated new Trek, starting to sense a pattern...
[06:05:13] <chromas> Did you know Lucas has his name on the Land Before Time?
[06:05:27] <SpallsHurgenson> original or remake?
[06:05:29] <chromas> Maybe JJ will remake that?
[06:05:52] <chromas> the cartoon
[06:05:59] <chromas> from the 80s
[06:06:52] <SpallsHurgenson> oh wait... I think I'm thinking of Land of the Lost
[06:09:12] <SirFinkus> lucas--
[06:09:12] <Bender> karma - lucas: -2
[06:09:27] <chromas> heh, so was I. I had to go look it up before pretending to know what I was talking about
[06:09:32] <chromas> lucas--
[06:09:32] <Bender> karma - lucas: -3
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[06:26:59] <cow> MoooooO!!!!
[06:28:16] <cow> When users browse soylentnews.org via https, is the Web traffic saved? Are requests logged? If so, how long do these logs are stored for?
[06:29:16] <cow> s/ do / /
[06:29:16] <sedctl> <cow> When users browse soylentnews.org via https, is the Web traffic saved? Are requests logged? If so, how long these logs are stored for?
[06:29:35] <cow> wow neat bot lol
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[06:40:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Science Explains How Moses Parted the Red Sea - http://sylnt.us - pillar-of-fire
[06:42:13] <crutchy> ooh we have a perl monk?
[06:42:46] <chromas> :D
[06:43:10] <chromas> tmb can take the day off now
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[06:43:39] <chromas> cow: I remember hearing they keep logs turned off unless they need to debug something
[06:43:50] <cow> oh thanks!
[06:44:08] <cow> i wish they would put in in FAQ, as pertaining to privacy or something
[06:44:25] <crutchy> is it marand?
[06:44:43] <crutchy> ~cowsay hi cow!
[06:44:44] <cow> as it stands, I cannot find an official statement of any kind
[06:44:44] <exec> _________
[06:44:44] <exec> < hi cow! >
[06:44:44] <exec> ---------
[06:44:44] <exec> \ ^__^
[06:44:44] <exec> \ (oo)\_______
[06:44:45] <exec> (__)\ )\/\
[06:44:46] <exec> ||----w |
[06:44:46] <exec> || ||
[06:45:26] <cow> s/they/you/
[06:45:37] <cow> grrr
[06:45:40] <cow> i mean, MOOO!
[06:46:07] <crutchy> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[06:46:08] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: SoylentNews Policy Document
[06:46:17] <cow> I remember this place was full of cows, what happened???
[06:46:34] <crutchy> they upgraded to steak :p
[06:47:07] <JamesNZ> steak++ # <3
[06:47:07] <Bender> karma - steak: 4
[06:48:28] <crutchy> policy is work in progress
[06:48:55] <crutchy> should prolly be bumped up the priority list
[06:50:08] <cow> aight it sounds though as if the Web traffic gets dumped, generally speaking? I am talking POST and GET requests in particular.
[06:50:47] <cow> s/dumped/burned/
[06:50:47] <sedctl> <cow> aight it sounds though as if the Web traffic gets burned, generally speaking? I am talking POST and GET requests in particular.
[06:51:08] <cow> sedctl, will you be my friend?
[06:51:09] * sedctl is a 53-line gawk script, https://github.com
[06:51:25] <crutchy> is there something you're worried about in particular?
[06:51:30] * cow is a VERY handsome cow
[06:51:44] <cow> hehe i'd rather not say, you see
[06:53:13] <crutchy> are you planning on infecting SN with 400TB of mad cow disease?
[06:53:51] <cow> aight, wish you guys all the best, will continue reloading about once in 5 minutes, and hope you will find the time to state officially what is being logged, and for how long. this can be done ahead of setting policy, right? just let us know what is up.
[06:54:02] * cow farts
[06:54:14] * JamesNZ taxes cow
[06:54:16] * crutchy sniffs
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[06:55:32] * crutchy thinks we should put something up. even just a quick n dirty
[06:56:14] <JamesNZ> What exactly was he looking for?
[06:57:14] <crutchy> privacy policy i think
[06:57:50] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[06:58:05] <crutchy> specifically statement re what data is retained
[07:04:18] <SirFinkus> maybe he's a leaker or something
[07:05:04] <JamesNZ> Probably wants to chew on it.
[07:05:05] <crutchy> like that kid on Flight of the Navigator?
[07:06:40] <crutchy> if he connected via tor i'm assuming it wouldn't matter if the NSA got its hands on it
[07:07:12] <crutchy> prolly a bit hard for a cow to squish through an onion ring though
[07:10:01] <crutchy> ~queue
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[07:30:43] <chromas> boffins-- # because it sounds restarded
[07:30:43] <Bender> karma - boffins: -1
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[09:15:26] * juggs looks around
[09:15:41] <swiss> hi
[09:16:21] <juggs> hey swiss
[09:16:26] <swiss> how's it goin?
[09:16:47] <juggs> not sure - just fell out of bed, sipping the 1st tea++ of the day
[09:16:53] <swiss> lol
[09:16:59] <swiss> i'm falling into bed
[09:17:04] <juggs> how's it with you? Find your electrical gremlin yet?
[09:17:09] <swiss> which one?
[09:17:18] <juggs> under voltage
[09:17:20] <swiss> i have so many electrical gremlins
[09:17:40] <swiss> oh, still no clue. That car doesn't get dailied: I dunno if i've even driven it since the last time I spoke about it
[09:17:59] <swiss> so issues last a long time on it
[09:18:05] <crutchy> ~time juggs
[09:18:07] <exec> Wednesday, 10 December 2014 @ 9:18 am GMT - London, UK
[09:18:08] <juggs> ahh
[09:18:25] <juggs> ~g'day crutchy
[09:18:26] * exec abnormally blows a wine flute of skittles at crutchy
[09:18:28] <swiss> i daily a prius
[09:18:32] <crutchy> ooh
[09:18:34] <crutchy> yummm
[09:18:38] <juggs> very california
[09:18:45] * crutchy runs away with skittles
[09:18:59] <juggs> I hope skittles agreed to that
[09:19:18] <swiss> yes, though I drive it not because of any "green" motives, but because they're so comfy to drive
[09:19:33] <swiss> and i love how quiet it is, compared to my straight-piped 240
[09:19:47] <juggs> I can imagine - chalk and cheese on that front
[09:19:56] <swiss> never heard that expression
[09:20:42] <swiss> huh, apparently a UK thing
[09:21:34] <juggs> :D
[09:23:46] <swiss> >40mpg on something that large ain't bad either
[09:25:10] <juggs> what's next? a tesla?
[09:25:53] <swiss> quite a few friends have them
[09:26:15] <swiss> i don't plan to get one till I own a house
[09:27:44] <juggs> ya - probably easier to live in a prius than a tesla :D
[09:30:32] <swiss> :P
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[09:43:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Shoes Really Do Make the (Wo)man - http://sylnt.us - things-look-different-from-up-here
[09:45:06] <ar> http://www.washingtonpost.com
[09:45:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03Map: The world?s longest train journey now begins in China - The Washington Post
[09:46:53] <SirFinkus> better train http://vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.com
[09:46:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03The forbidden railway: Vienna - Pyongyang 윈 - 모스크바 - 두만강 - 평양
[09:47:27] <juggs> don't let Leebert see those!
[11:16:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:16:37] <Bender> karma - coffee: 896
[11:16:52] <crutchy> g'day
[11:16:52] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI crutchy
[11:16:55] <juggs> Morning TMB
[11:17:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[11:17:40] * juggs thinks the coffee++ is yet to kick in
[11:17:58] * crutchy is thinking about having another
[11:18:12] <crutchy> even though its nearly 10.30pm
[11:18:58] <crutchy> figured out a little recursive reference problem tonight so ima feeling goood :)
[11:19:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds ugly
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[11:28:13] <crutchy> https://github.com
[11:28:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03exec-irc-bot/execfs_lib.php at master · crutchy-/exec-irc-bot · GitHub
[11:29:29] <crutchy> hmm actually its not recursive anymore
[11:29:56] <crutchy> it started out recursive and it got ugly
[11:39:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, recursive references are insanity. functions are bad enough.
[11:40:51] <crutchy> in hindsight i might have been able to use recursion too. the problem i was having was due to another reference not being unset outside that function that was showing up in var_dump and confusing me
[11:41:01] <crutchy> a simple loop is nicer though
[11:42:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> very much easier to not fuck up as well
[11:44:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Science Behind Farts - http://sylnt.us - passing-interest
[11:48:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[11:49:55] <crutchy> that would be a shitty undergraduate thesis
[11:50:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> it would reek a bit
[12:14:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> woke up with this stuck in my head. I blame you, crutchy. https://www.youtube.com
[12:14:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - sang by Rolf Harris - YouTube
[12:15:01] <crutchy> rolf_harris++
[12:15:01] <Bender> karma - rolf_harris: 1
[12:15:10] <crutchy> slim dusty is awesome too
[12:16:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, got my fix
[12:17:18] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:17:18] <NetCraft> ^ 03Slim Dusty - Duncan - YouTube
[12:17:21] <crutchy> :D
[12:17:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[12:17:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03Chuck Berry Live 1972 ~ My Ding-a-Ling - YouTube
[12:17:36] <crutchy> lol haven't heard that one for years
[12:20:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> good ole chuck berry
[12:27:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> DING-A-LING
[12:47:01] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[12:47:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03John Farnham - You're The Voice LIVE featuring the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. - YouTube
[12:48:07] <crutchy> politicians really do need to be strung up for warmongering
[12:48:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> whyzat?
[12:49:17] <crutchy> cos warmongering is bad
[12:49:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on the war
[12:50:00] <crutchy> i never heard of a just war
[12:50:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> you been amazingly sheltered then
[12:51:13] <crutchy> i'm truly in a lucky country, but i'm not ignorant
[12:51:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> all wars are just from at least one side's perspective. the trick is to be that side.
[12:52:07] <crutchy> the side that pummels the other i guess
[12:52:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> generally the side defending itself if it's a war of aggression. depends on why you're being aggressed against though.
[12:54:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> like korea. there is no question we were fighting on the right side in hindsight.
[12:54:18] <crutchy> aggression usually has reason
[12:55:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> were/are cause that war is still ongoing, we simply have a very long ceasefire happening.
[12:55:17] <crutchy> there's nothing right about the US military lately
[12:55:31] <crutchy> they are the aggressors
[12:55:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, you're buying propaganda too much.
[12:55:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> afghanistan was 100% justified, iraq was pretty debatable though.
[12:56:03] <crutchy> lol now who's the sheltered one
[12:56:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> <-- realist.
[12:56:24] <crutchy> ~define blowback
[12:56:25] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3blowback: To hold a marijuana joint in ones mouth between the lips with the hot end in the mouth while blowing smoke out of the hole at the other end into someone else's mouth, so as to get a big 'hit&#...
[12:56:40] <crutchy> heh
[12:56:46] <crutchy> ud fail
[12:57:30] <crutchy> blowback is the result of US foreign policy since the 50's
[12:57:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh
[12:58:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> the only unjust war we've fought since the 50s is the second iraqi one.
[12:58:47] <crutchy> maybe google drones in pakistan
[12:59:04] <crutchy> just for something obvious
[12:59:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> drones in pakistan were/are absolutely justified
[12:59:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> invading pakistan would have been for that matter, just not terribly wise.
[12:59:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> nukes and all
[12:59:49] <crutchy> ah well. i guess you reap what you sow
[13:00:40] <crutchy> dunno whether the kiddies at the other end of those drone attacks would agree, but meh
[13:01:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> old saying: war is hell. if you expect it to be any different because people got all nice and civilized you're deluded.
[13:01:32] <crutchy> killing 500,000 in iraq was worth it apparently too. pretty hard to argue with that
[13:01:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> could have been if we'd stayed until they were stable enough.
[13:02:10] <crutchy> i guess if you kill everyone over there it will be stable
[13:02:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, my heart's just bleeding all over the place.
[13:03:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> once you commit to a war, see it through otherwise everyone in it died for no reason.
[13:03:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> whether you should commit is the argument, not if the cost is too high. that's a beforehand decision.
[13:04:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> once you're in there's no such thing as too high a cost. once you start thinking like that you've already lost and every dead body was for no reason at all.
[13:05:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> war is not violence plain and simple, it is calculated violence for a very specific purpose.
[13:07:17] <crutchy> you been amazingly sheltered
[13:07:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i just understand the way the world works and the cost of living in it.
[13:08:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> now do we need to be loaning out our military might to every cause around the globe we agree with? that's another argument.
[13:08:54] <crutchy> and its sad that so many of your countryfolk no doubt agree with you
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[14:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> new systemd released, let the flames begin!
[14:15:54] <Blackmoore> *headdesk*
[14:18:39] <Konomi> rage agains the system..... d
[14:19:24] <juggs> ugh - I'd enjoyed a few days not seeing ~that~ word :/
[14:19:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> hur hur hur
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[14:20:39] <Konomi> step 1: find out juggs phone number, step 2: ring him up, step 3: Say systemd in the softest voice, step 4: hang up
[14:21:00] <juggs> Sometimes you scare me Konomi
[14:21:10] <Konomi> >,,<
[14:21:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing really controversial in the patch notes though. primarily just fixes and improvements to existing functionality.
[14:23:38] <Konomi> I'm sure they'll find something
[14:23:52] <Konomi> maybe pottering slept with some kernel devs
[14:24:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly just still working on how to include wayland in it and break all xorg dependencies
[14:24:46] <Konomi> damn I better switch to bsd
[14:25:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno why people are all bsd-happy over this nonsense. ain't like slackware is a horrible alternative.
[14:26:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> lot less to relearn, very little to recode.
[14:26:04] <Konomi> cough launchd cough
[14:26:38] <Konomi> I think after my david attenbrough doco it's time for some podcasts
[14:26:55] <Konomi> I may take another look at the doco section before that though
[14:27:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> having a fun argument on twitter with a lib who thinks some people are just genetically inferior and unable to succeed like the rest of us n need to be taken care of.
[14:28:08] <Konomi> eugeneics the worst idea ever
[14:28:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, i think that goes to New Coke.
[14:28:31] <Blackmoore> http://updatesfromthenightshift.wordpress.com
[14:28:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03How Much Power is Clark Griswold Really Using? | Updates From The Night Shift
[14:28:34] <Konomi> there's new coke
[14:28:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> there was back in the 80s
[14:28:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> it sucked though, hence classic.
[14:33:13] <juggs> Have another perl volunteer in my mailbox TMB \o/
[14:33:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> guy i asked about earlier?
[14:33:47] <juggs> nope
[14:33:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> awesome
[14:34:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, this keeps up i may get to go fishing on weekdays.
[14:35:08] <juggs> nah, we'll just find more to do :D
[14:35:17] <juggs> ~weather
[14:35:22] <Konomi> twitter intergration
[14:35:24] * Konomi hides
[14:35:30] <juggs> bot 404 Not Found
[14:35:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, crutchy got honked off about a discussion we were having or something and shut down for the night.
[14:36:45] <juggs> Konomi, not a fan myself. But eh, I guess it wouldn't hurt our visibility to pump some stuff out that way
[14:36:54] * juggs feels a little ill at the prospect
[14:37:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> we already dump our rss feed to twitter
[14:37:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> just don't do any interaction with folks from the account
[14:38:09] <juggs> that's a Bender function right?
[14:38:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is cool cause nobody's said anything to the account yet.
[14:38:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[14:38:53] <juggs> can't think we'd want to do much more than that
[14:40:23] <juggs> blech - got to head out for an hour or so - don;t burn the place down
[14:40:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, it wouldn't hurt to announce more than just the rss feed over it. minor things that we'd talk about on irc but not announce on the front page.
[14:47:20] <Blackmoore> hmm..
[14:47:21] <Blackmoore> http://www.techhive.com
[14:47:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03Scientists turn coffee into booze, stop short of recreating Four Loko | TechHive
[14:47:59] <Blackmoore> so basically fermenting coffee into alcohol.
[14:48:29] <Blackmoore> I'm not sure if this is a win for alcohol.
[14:51:42] <Konomi> what a waste
[15:00:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i don't drink alcohol to stay conscious and i don't drink coffee to become less so.
[15:03:25] <Blackmoore> I like coffee liqueur - but yeah. seems like a poor choice for a base alchohol
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[15:17:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CIA Torture Failed to Produce Useful Intelligence - http://sylnt.us - garbage-in-garbage-out
[15:18:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bender: s/ure/ure Mostly/
[15:18:01] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CIA Torture Mostly Failed to Produce Useful Intelligence - http://sylnt.us - garbage-in-garbage-out
[15:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> accuracy is key
[15:18:54] <mechanicjay> The front page is really strong today. A good mix of interesting stuff.
[15:19:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice, haven't really looked.
[15:40:19] <chromas> tmb: I still only see sysd 217
[15:40:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's prolly not in the repo yet. just got merged today i think.
[15:41:26] <chromas> it's not official 'til they update the irc channel topic :)
[15:42:21] <chromas> There was a bunch of repo activity earlier. I can't wait to reboot
[15:42:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> was there? i didn't notice
[15:42:46] <chromas> for systemd2
[15:42:50] <chromas> s/2//
[15:42:50] <sedctl> <chromas> for systemd
[15:43:28] <chromas> the uselessd guy says the next version's gonna take a little longer than he thought
[15:43:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[15:43:58] <chromas> replacing systemctl with a shell script for one thing
[15:46:28] <Konomi> need a laptop sticker
[15:46:32] <Konomi> "My pid 1 is systemd"
[15:46:44] <Konomi> wonder if anyone would say anything
[15:47:24] <chromas> Someone mentioned they have a "I survived the init war" shirt
[15:48:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> bit premature, no?
[15:48:21] <chromas> Some people just can't appreciate a premature annunciation
[15:48:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> still plenty of guerrilla fighting going on
[15:49:12] <Konomi> chromas: that would be pretty cool
[15:49:23] <Konomi> I'm actually watching lennart on linux action show atm
[15:49:49] <Konomi> I'm glad that he basicalyl said he gives not a fuck about some of the criticism
[15:49:53] <chromas> I saw that. Needs better lighting
[15:50:10] <Konomi> abd basically said he looks at the source of the criticism before he considers it
[15:50:15] <Konomi> yeah I was like
[15:50:18] <Konomi> he must not podcast much
[15:50:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> just be glad we don't take that attitude here
[15:51:08] <chromas> I only saw it 'cause someone linked it in #debianfork talking about how the Linux Action Show guys like to suck systemdick
[15:51:12] <Konomi> hmm you're right we should consider every AC criticism ;p
[15:51:28] <Konomi> chromas: yeah that sounds like them
[15:51:29] <chromas> I think I've only seen that show one other time
[15:51:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i made changes bitched about by the few ranters we had on the mod post this morning.
[15:51:39] <Konomi> I watch it now and then
[15:51:40] <chromas> Now they've got their own combatserver
[15:51:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> civil or no, if they had a point, they had a point.
[15:52:06] <Konomi> they have a show more orriented towards women in tech recently
[15:52:11] <Konomi> but tbh I find that podcast so boring x.x
[15:52:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> well yeah, it's doing it wrong.
[15:52:28] <chromas> yeah, I skipped around a bit
[15:52:58] <chromas> for some reason I want to guy buy mobile phone service from Ting now
[15:53:11] <Konomi> lol
[15:53:12] <ciri> now that is funny
[15:53:15] <Konomi> I use youtube-dl
[15:53:24] <Konomi> arrow key gets used muchly when i see anything remotely like an ad ;p
[15:54:04] <chromas> actually I think Ting's the only carrier (mvno) with a decent 'price plan'
[15:54:20] <Konomi> yeah despite how much they bang on about it I wish we had it here
[15:54:22] <Konomi> it seems good
[15:54:33] <Konomi> pay as you use on internet/voip?
[15:54:35] <Konomi> zomg want...
[15:54:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> how you get women in tech is by appreciating the ones you have for their skills, not by proselytizing
[15:54:43] <ciri> how how brown cow
[15:54:43] <Konomi> cause seriously plans ARE shit
[15:55:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'like me keeping trying to recruit you =P
[15:55:09] <Konomi> TheMightyBuzzard: well they're aiming for a xyz female techs experience of the industry
[15:55:18] <Konomi> and me personally I just don't care too much about personal stories
[15:56:08] <Konomi> I like the whole "I worked on this and it's awesome because" sorta interviews ;p
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[15:56:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's boring. show me awesome tech then kudos the people behind it. it should always be about the tech first.
[15:56:47] <Konomi> I did however enjoy reading freebsdgirl's story about her life cause she was very much like me at the start of computing
[15:57:13] <Konomi> fortuantly I avoided dating any guys that were having a bet with their friends who could fuck me first...
[15:57:19] <Konomi> nograb
[15:57:24] <Konomi> causse you're all evil \o/
[15:57:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> man she can just fuck completely off. do not dig hatemongers.
[15:57:44] <Konomi> but yeah it was a pretty awesome story
[15:57:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> evil, horny, it's what we do.
[15:58:12] <Konomi> I was told by a friend there are two states on grindr
[15:58:14] <Konomi> bored and horney
[15:58:17] <Konomi> and the first just means the last
[15:58:21] <Konomi> I believe him >.>
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[15:58:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'also asleep
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[16:00:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'like early 30s women. they're not as bad as ~18yo guys but they're a hell of a lot worse than they want to let on.
[16:00:25] <Konomi> anyone in a bar is bad for that
[16:00:29] <Konomi> I avoid like the plague
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[16:01:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, bars are for booze and acting a fool.
[16:01:17] <Konomi> anyone who says "I like to go clubbing" basically morphs into a large walking turd that is trying to hug me
[16:01:26] <Konomi> with my only feeling being "run run run!"
[16:01:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like to go shoot pool and listen to rock. clubbing can eat a dick.
[16:02:25] <Konomi> that stuff attracts too much "country folk" for me
[16:02:41] <Konomi> not as bad as clubbers cause they're generally nicer
[16:02:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on the bar but there's some truth to that.
[16:02:51] <Konomi> but there about a deep as a bird bath
[16:02:58] <Konomi> they're*
[16:03:53] <Konomi> god I am horrible
[16:04:03] <Konomi> I thought be cool to go to a LUG and say I use systemd
[16:04:08] <Konomi> and just wait for the war
[16:04:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, go to a lug and set your hostname to systemd.
[16:04:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> more subtle
[16:04:59] <Konomi> user246-systemd
[16:05:00] <Konomi> ;p
[16:05:10] <Konomi> home-systemd-pc
[16:05:18] <Konomi> something liek what windows 7 sets
[16:05:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[16:06:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> or bring a wireless router and have the SSID be systemd
[16:07:04] <Landon> I don't think my lug would care much :P
[16:07:13] <Landon> much pragmatic
[16:07:30] <Konomi> yeah I figured ;p
[16:07:30] <Landon> this is energy that could be spent complaining about windows
[16:07:40] <Konomi> I'm over windows
[16:07:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't bother with em. if there was one in my town it would be like me and on or two highschool kids maybe.
[16:07:52] <Landon> I'm mostly over it, the games I'm currently playing work on linux
[16:07:57] <Konomi> show them your leet perl skillz
[16:08:06] <Landon> TheMightyBuzzard: yeah, the one at my college was super small and dwindling
[16:08:11] <Landon> mostly sysadmins that actually like their job
[16:08:15] <Konomi> Landon: yeah with the humble bundle I've never felt like I lack games anymore
[16:08:25] <Konomi> helps that I don't give two fucks about AAA which got boring to me ages ago
[16:08:26] <Landon> there are a few I'll have to boot windows for when I feel like them
[16:08:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dig my job, still quitting end of the year though
[16:08:39] <Landon> there are some good AAAs :)
[16:08:46] <Landon> I was digging far cry 3 pretty hard
[16:08:54] <Landon> but definitely not worth getting on the hype train
[16:09:00] <Landon> most of the ones I get are ones I see a lets play for
[16:09:01] <Konomi> yeah
[16:09:06] <Landon> "Oh shit, that looks batshit fun"
[16:09:09] <Konomi> gaming is becoming very stick and carrot now too
[16:09:14] <Konomi> DLC etc
[16:09:18] <CoolHand> dragon age: inquisitions is going to be hard not to get... the wife is already pressing me for it..
[16:09:23] <Landon> Konomi: I'm realizing that in general
[16:09:26] <Konomi> finding a way to slurp that money outta you
[16:09:31] <Landon> how it sucks me in
[16:09:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> witcher 3 will be available on steam, so i'm good.
[16:09:44] <Landon> even if I don't participate in the extremely scummy stuff like fluff microtransactions
[16:10:06] <Konomi> microtransactions
[16:10:07] <CoolHand> TheMightyBuzzard: witcher3 on steam ---- for LINUX! :)
[16:10:08] <Landon> but in general just trying to get that next dopamine hit
[16:10:09] <Konomi> only for blood banks
[16:10:11] <Landon> frustrates me
[16:10:12] <Landon> :)
[16:10:14] <Landon> but I still play
[16:10:16] <Konomi> wanna get that new shiney mobile case
[16:10:18] <Konomi> your arm please
[16:10:23] <Landon> Konomi: have you seen black mirror?
[16:10:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> CoolHand, ya, i did a happy dance bout that.
[16:10:29] <Landon> there's an extremely good episode on gamification
[16:10:33] <Konomi> just 1000 more microtransactions and you can get it
[16:10:37] <Konomi> Landon: nope
[16:10:37] <Landon> (it's on netflix now too)
[16:10:48] <Landon> season 1, episode 2
[16:10:50] <Landon> they're all standalones
[16:11:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll watch some tv now and have a nap. not getting any more work done today.
[16:11:30] <Landon> I'm pretty impressed actually at how relevant the episodes have been
[16:12:12] <Landon> one was the power of broadcast and gossip to blackmail, three was What If We Could Remember and Call Back Everything
[16:12:38] <Landon> s2e1 was What if we could bring back simulated loved ones by what they've publicly posted on the internet?
[16:12:51] <Landon> (markov chain of your dead spouses facebook posts type of thing)
[16:13:18] <Landon> haven't gotten further yet
[16:13:40] <Konomi> what's it abut?
[16:13:46] <Landon> scifi anthology
[16:13:56] <Landon> it's just about tech today taken to the extremes
[16:14:32] <Landon> pretty independent stories, some are current day, some are current day with tech we don't have, some are far future dystopia where you pedal bikes to earn fake currency
[16:14:35] <Konomi> looks fun might pick it up
[16:14:59] <Konomi> the daily dot which I don't like for the record
[16:15:07] <Konomi> seems to have youtube links for every ep
[16:15:20] <Landon> really, interesting
[16:15:36] <Landon> I've been watching via the WAL
[16:15:47] <Landon> Wife Application Layer implemented by Chromecast+Netflix
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[17:39:04] <Ethanol-fueled> I was reading the logs.
[17:39:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Did crutchy ragequit?
[17:41:41] <chromas> Seemed like it although it was also midnight for him
[17:42:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahaha, of course, it was fucking war and politics.
[17:42:35] <Ethanol-fueled> With Buzzard, no less.
[17:42:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[17:43:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, ya. don't bring it up to me if you don't wanna hear my opinion on it.
[17:43:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Looking though the logs and crutchy quit right as he showed disgust with one of your opinions.
[17:43:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Or so it seemed. He could have just been tired.
[17:43:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly both i spect
[17:43:52] * chromas peeks at slash, sees many @s and stuff
[17:44:50] * Ethanol-fueled will wait until web development class until I peek at that mess.
[17:45:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup, the world's fucked.
[17:45:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Armed American revolt in 3...2...1...
[17:45:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Global Thermonuclear War
[17:46:03] <NetCraft> How about a nice game of chess?
[17:46:12] <Ethanol-fueled> And the only people alive will be Sub-Saharan Africans. They will inherit the Earth and usher in a new reign of peace and prosperity.
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[17:46:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Then Whites will be treated as animals and enslaved by the master race :)
[17:47:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Erg, too much coffee++
[17:47:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i had some left but i decided enough was enough.
[17:48:48] <Ethanol-fueled> That coffee is no joke. "Hey, Ethanol, how'd that sensor calibration go?"
[17:48:54] <Ethanol-fueled> "None of your fucking business!"
[17:49:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[17:49:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Allright, back to the rat-race. Later!
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[18:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, elf
[18:21:00] <elf> evening :)
[18:21:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> or that, i'm not picky
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[20:25:07] <ar> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[20:30:10] <crutchy> ++coffee
[20:30:11] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 191
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[20:40:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, crutchy
[20:40:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[20:40:30] <Bender> karma - coffee: 897
[20:40:45] <crutchy> g'day
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[20:41:16] <crutchy> how goes the code wrangling?
[20:41:16] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[20:41:25] <chromas> ar: is that what the dinosaurs referred to as core memory?
[20:41:30] <crutchy> or fooshing
[20:42:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, pulled back and took some criticism in mind. thinking of rolling out all the changes except zero-mod january.
[20:42:25] * crutchy wonders if that's how apple came up with its name
[20:42:43] <crutchy> zero-mod january?
[20:43:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> in january
[20:43:33] <ar> chromas: yes
[20:43:44] <crutchy> zero-mod as in mods with +0?
[20:43:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> leave troll/redundant/etc... at -1 for now and see if the mod points alone are enough to handle bad downmods like some folks were saying or not
[20:43:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah
[20:44:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> debating right now on leaving Disagree at +0 or moving it to -1
[20:44:32] <chromas> and then downmodding could make my own karma go down
[20:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> howzat?
[20:45:13] * crutchy wonders if trying to figure out what mods should be is like the fed trying to figure out what interest rates should be
[20:45:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, worse. the fed has it easy
[20:45:28] <crutchy> maybe a mod system should be more personal
[20:45:33] <crutchy> lol
[20:45:36] <crutchy> yeah prolly
[20:45:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> no way. no building yerself a echo bubble. bad for conversation.
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[20:46:25] <chromas> The mod labels need a monthly change
[20:46:27] <crutchy> they just press +$50,000,000,000 every month on their fedpyewta
[20:46:40] <chromas> (Score 3: beardscratching)
[20:47:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah they only gotta really pay attention to the inflation rate and try to keep it around 3%
[20:47:08] <crutchy> idea for a +0 mod: omgpwnies!
[20:47:16] <chromas> still need the circlejerky mod
[20:47:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> putting in the +1 Touche cause it's too good to pass up
[20:47:50] <crutchy> that way if people wanna use their mods but can't be fornicated actually reading anything: +0 omgpwnies!
[20:48:24] <crutchy> though i'm not sure what that would actually do :/
[20:48:39] <chromas> Maybe they can bank their mod points for later at the expense of karma
[20:48:48] <crutchy> hmm yeah what is the point of +0 if they don't actually 'do' anything?
[20:49:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, if enough of them show up in the list of mods for that comment, they get the title out to the side
[20:49:14] <chromas> can we have a modpoint bank? and a karma bank? Wheelin' 'n' Dealin'
[20:49:21] <crutchy> k
[20:49:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> like could have a +5 Disagree.
[20:49:29] <crutchy> i guess that's something
[20:49:32] <crutchy> lol
[20:49:33] <ciri> hehehe
[20:49:38] <crutchy> that would be confusement
[20:49:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, going to get fresh mod points daily. spend or don't as you like.
[20:50:02] <chromas> karma needs a sink
[20:50:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> to drain it?
[20:50:20] <crutchy> if we have our own bank, we should be able to make deposits of onion rings
[20:50:22] <crutchy> and bees
[20:50:41] <chromas> yeah, maybe we can buy something for them, like extra mod points
[20:50:42] <janrinok> hi guys - just lurking....
[20:50:49] <crutchy> or more bees
[20:51:05] <chromas> onion_rings++ # dipped in ice cream
[20:51:05] <Bender> karma - onion_rings: 1
[20:51:10] <crutchy> ew
[20:51:15] <chromas> ~g'day janrinok for lurking
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[20:51:25] <chromas> ~g'day janrinok for lurking
[20:51:27] * exec dexterously flings an anvil of pancakes at janrinok for lurking
[20:51:33] <janrinok> hi chromas - and don't reply ciri
[20:51:42] <chromas> ++ciri
[20:51:42] <NetCraft> Karma - ciri: 4
[20:51:43] <crutchy> hope there's no spines that come up into the channel when we go near
[20:51:51] <chromas> ^ positive karma for ciri
[20:52:09] <crutchy> that's buttcraft though :p
[20:52:17] <chromas> crutchy: the bots are spreading creep
[20:52:24] <janrinok> just back-reading to see what's been said...
[20:52:38] <crutchy> there must be an excess of lesbian gas
[20:53:43] * TheMightyBuzzard looks at Konomi and back at crutchy
[20:53:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> not touching that one
[20:54:01] <crutchy> yeah we might lose our minerals
[20:56:29] <chromas> need a ~blockgrab
[20:57:47] <chromas> I'm not sure if that was really funny or if I need a nap but every time I re-read it
[20:58:56] <crutchy> better go to workipoos and try to turn stick figures into a bunch of green 'OK's
[20:59:06] <crutchy> cyas
[20:59:17] <chromas> byectl
[20:59:22] * Leebert hates telecons
[20:59:30] <janrinok> bye crutchy
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[21:09:58] <janrinok> ...I've finished the pancakes...
[21:11:40] <chromas> You may keep the anvil
[21:16:02] <janrinok> lol
[21:16:02] <ciri> heh
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[23:24:10] <juggs> heh - left my chicken curry in the crock pot so long the chicken appears to have disintegrated :(
[23:30:29] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[23:31:47] <juggs> ooh - I found a chunk
[23:32:06] <juggs> cauliflower is mostly intact though xD
[23:32:29] <juggs> at this point anything would taste good - kept getting distracted
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[23:53:29] <juggs> hola matt_
[23:53:33] <matt_> hi!
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[23:54:03] <juggs> how's things?
[23:54:43] <mechanicjay> hey matt_
[23:54:56] <matt_> good.
[23:55:00] <matt_> mechanicjay, hi!
[23:56:00] <matt_> nice feedback on the moderation experiment post. seems like people care, which is good.
[23:56:25] <matt_> what's new in soylentland?
[23:56:38] <juggs> Yep that was a good discussion. Made Buzzard go back and change a few things I think.
[23:57:42] <juggs> We got a good response to the call to arms for some more devs... I think we're at 6 more volunteers now
[23:58:11] <juggs> matt_, did you see my (very) recent mail?
[23:58:16] <matt_> oh, wow!
[23:58:18] <matt_> yep.
[23:58:38] * matt_ remembers many discussions about that topic.
[23:58:53] <juggs> Yah - petered out months back
[23:59:05] <juggs> Want to discuss in le outre channel?
[23:59:35] <matt_> k. don't want to put #soylent to sleep :)
[23:59:41] <matt_> coffee++
[23:59:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 898