#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-08

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[00:54:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[00:54:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[00:54:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[00:54:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[00:55:24] <SirFinkus> coffee--
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[00:55:26] <SirFinkus> coffee--
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[00:56:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> traitor!
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[00:57:58] * TheMightyBuzzard goes back to reading his book
[00:59:53] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[00:59:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[00:59:54] <JamesNZ> coffee--
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[01:00:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:00:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[01:00:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:00:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 886
[01:02:29] <SirFinkus> I never voted coffee up, so I'm no traiter
[01:02:34] <SirFinkus> coffee--
[01:02:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[01:02:59] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:02:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:02:59] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:02:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 883
[01:03:08] <JamesNZ> What book, OOC?
[01:03:16] <drgibbon> what's the deal with coffee
[01:03:39] <JamesNZ> Everybody hates it.
[01:03:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> they got an irrational love of trolling it
[01:03:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Hidden by Benedict Jacka
[01:04:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:04:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:04:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:04:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[01:04:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> fifth in the Alex Verus series
[01:04:49] <drgibbon> well, I think I will be going back to Slackware :D
[01:04:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> urban fantasy i spose
[01:05:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, s'where my servers are going
[01:05:08] <JamesNZ> Ah. Haven't heard of that series.
[01:05:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> once they have to anyways
[01:05:12] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:05:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:05:12] <JamesNZ> coffee--
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[01:05:13] <drgibbon> slackbuilds.org looks nice
[01:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, don't appear of the suck variety but mostly i don't care about having systemd on a desktop machine.
[01:06:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> so the standard packages mostly work for me
[01:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:06:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:06:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[01:07:20] <drgibbon> well, time will tell with sysd
[01:07:47] <drgibbon> but I'm glad at least Slack still exists
[01:07:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly, you don't put anything shiny and new on a server that has to stay up
[01:08:21] <drgibbon> I don't want it on my desktop machine either though, I would like to support Linux apart from it
[01:08:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> you put things that have been around five or ten years on it because you know they have a good history
[01:08:39] <drgibbon> like bash?
[01:08:39] <drgibbon> :D
[01:09:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, honestly, if you wrote cgi scripts in bash you need a bit of a smacking anyway.
[01:09:45] <drgibbon> yeah I understood that it was potentially a bit worse than that though, something to do with DHCP
[01:10:19] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:10:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:10:19] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:10:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 883
[01:10:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, slack, last i looked didn't do any silliness like making env vars call a function though
[01:10:55] <drgibbon> yeah it's pretty clean and sane
[01:11:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly thas ubuntu and the like
[01:11:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:11:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:11:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:11:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[01:11:26] <drgibbon> I do like their slow moving and clean philosophy
[01:11:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'like debian used to be
[01:11:41] <drgibbon> set it up, and that's it for a while
[01:12:14] <drgibbon> debian appears to have been colonized by other interests
[01:12:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty much. or they just got a bunch of newish devs who've always been programmers and never sysadmins
[01:12:53] <drgibbon> or possibly both
[01:13:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. programmers love the new, sysadmins hate it.
[01:13:28] <drgibbon> I turned in my programmer's card long ago ;)
[01:13:40] <drgibbon> although I'm learning R
[01:13:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i do both right now. sysadmin by trade and programmer for this here site.
[01:14:22] <drgibbon> mine is for research purposes
[01:14:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> they keep trying to get me to sysadmin here too but it's too much like work.
[01:14:28] <drgibbon> hha yeah
[01:14:47] <drgibbon> just found out about the wonders of R+LaTeX+knitr very cool
[01:15:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ouch. was never a LaTeX or really any compiled doc type fan.
[01:15:32] <drgibbon> turns out it's by way the best way to do research
[01:15:40] <drgibbon> the best way
[01:15:40] <JamesNZ> LaTeX makes really pretty docs though.
[01:15:41] <drgibbon> I mean
[01:15:50] <drgibbon> it depends what you want to do
[01:15:50] <JamesNZ> (and it's great for math symbols)
[01:16:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, s'what i hear but it's painful to read and write.
[01:16:15] <drgibbon> for quantiative science research, combined with R and knitr it's pretty much the holy grail of reproducible research
[01:16:25] <drgibbon> yeah? I haven't had too many problems yet, we'll see I guess
[01:18:55] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:18:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:18:56] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:18:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 883
[01:19:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean i really want a document to be legible before it's changed to another format mostly
[01:19:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:19:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:19:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:19:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[01:20:35] <JamesNZ> LaTeX source is quite legible WRT content, it's not like Perl :P
[01:20:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl i can read fine. LaTeX is a mystery to me.
[01:21:07] <drgibbon> well, I'm writing a thesis, and it seems pretty clean so far
[01:22:08] <drgibbon> it's mostly text with \section{} blocks and so on, with R code embebbed inside << >>= @
[01:22:10] <drgibbon> all cool
[01:22:23] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[01:23:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> bleh, i napped through dinnertime. now i'm all hungry.
[01:24:00] <JamesNZ> lamb++
[01:24:00] <Bender> karma - lamb: 3
[01:24:01] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:24:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:24:02] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:24:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 883
[01:24:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:24:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:24:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:24:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[01:28:45] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: Does SN take editors who hate coffee? :P
[01:28:55] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:28:55] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:28:56] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:28:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 883
[01:29:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:29:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:29:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:29:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[01:29:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but i can't tell ya where we take them
[01:29:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't do for anyone to find the bodies
[01:29:32] <JamesNZ> Hah.
[01:30:21] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # Let's see where I end up.
[01:30:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:30:23] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:30:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 883
[01:30:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> Talk to LaminatorX and/or mrcoolbp if you're interested. LamX heads the eds and mrcoolbp does the timing.
[01:30:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/timing/hiring/
[01:30:39] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> Talk to LaminatorX and/or mrcoolbp if you're interested. LamX heads the eds and mrcoolbp does the hiring.
[01:30:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:30:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[01:30:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[01:30:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[01:30:52] <JamesNZ> I already emailed editors@soylentnews.org.
[01:31:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully it'll get read soonish. i kinda despair at some of our email response times though.
[01:32:07] <JamesNZ> :P
[01:32:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> fer instance, i'm still waiting on them to get back to me about joining the team after mailing dev@
[01:32:50] <JamesNZ> Wait, aren't you already part of the team?
[01:33:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> for the last several months
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[01:33:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup sub
[01:33:17] <JamesNZ> Hmm. Perhaps I should've volunteered for community support :)
[01:33:23] <JamesNZ> \o Subsentient
[01:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> he knows bout the edity stuff too
[01:33:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> just not the boss of it
[01:34:02] <JamesNZ> Subsentient1?
[01:34:18] <Subsentient1> JamesNZ: hehe got two IRCs open.
[01:34:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, he's an ed
[01:34:25] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[01:34:34] <JamesNZ> Subsentient1: I noticed :)
[01:34:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient1, figured, same ~WhiteRat@
[01:35:03] <Subsentient1> $wz
[01:35:03] <aqu4> 3[1 of 3] Name: Low oil, wimps | Map: TruckTrekCO-T1 | Host: SubSen(MOEPP) | Players: 2/8 | IP: 216.161.165.96 | Version: 3.1.1
[01:35:04] <aqu4> 3[2 of 3] Name: Dany Game | Map: Emergence-T1 | Host: Dany | Players: 8/10 | IP: 87.143.209.71 | Version: 3.1.1
[01:35:05] <aqu4> 3[3 of 3] Name: Only Russian for ;) | Map: Gamma-T1 | Host: PL | Players: 2/3 | IP: 5.100.84.98 | Version: 3.1.1
[01:35:22] <JamesNZ> Subsentient1: I'll join in a sec.
[01:36:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ed's really the only team we can keep reliably staffed
[01:40:21] <JamesNZ> You mean there aren't enough in the other teams? Or it's the most essential?
[01:42:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean like i AM the dev team.
[01:42:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp is like two of the teams on his own
[01:43:10] <JamesNZ> Ahhh, I see :P
[01:43:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> take that back, i think we have wiki covered well too and mostly good on sysadmins though that's primarily because we don't need them around much
[01:44:31] <JamesNZ> Ah.
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[02:01:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It's about to Get a Lot Harder to Hide the Results of Medical Studies - http://sylnt.us - truth-in-advertising
[02:28:20] <Nerdfest> bg
[02:28:20] <Nerdfest> kwin --replace
[02:28:59] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:28:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[02:29:00] <JamesNZ> coffee--
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[02:52:42] <chromas> fg
[02:52:45] <chromas> ^c
[02:52:56] <chromas> sudo passwd root
[02:53:06] <chromas> huntersthompson2
[02:54:11] <Leebert> exec /sbin/init
[02:55:06] <chromas> mplayer2 .bin/secret\ pr0nz/vidyaz/donkey/heehaww.mp4
[02:55:33] <chromas> what? this ain't muh shell?
[02:55:46] <JamesNZ> Wrong window chromas ;)
[02:57:24] <Leebert> chromas: why are you in my home directory?
[02:58:32] <chromas> dunno. I must've sshd into the wrong ip
[02:58:37] <chromas> I blame systemd
[02:58:51] <chromas> uselessd dev: "I just realized that systemd is basically a poor and crippled reinvention of a limited subset of the Erlang runtime."
[03:16:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> alternately you could look at as a less invasive version of emacs
[03:18:09] <chromas> without keybindings :(
[03:18:34] <chromas> I guess that's what makes it less invasive
[03:21:54] <Leebert> I'm reading my rental car agreement, and I'm shocked to realize that some people actually rent cars to have them stolen by cohorts.
[03:22:11] <Leebert> I'm so innocent. Such a thing would never have occurred to me.
[03:22:23] <Konomi> sure sure ;p
[03:22:54] <chromas> You have to agree to not steal it?
[03:23:55] <Leebert> Yes, in fact you do.
[03:24:27] <Leebert> But there's a bunch of language in there also about your liability not being limited if you participated or aided in the theft of the vehicle.
[03:24:27] <chromas> cross that part out before signing :)
[03:24:54] <Leebert> I think the rental agreement also stipulates who can and can't modify the contract. So no go. :)
[03:25:40] <chromas> Well you didn't agree to that until after you already modified it
[03:26:07] <chromas> Can you really cross things out like that (assuming they don't tell you to gtfo)?
[03:28:54] <Leebert> *shrug*
[03:29:00] <Leebert> I doubt it, but IANAL
[03:29:25] <chromas> Leebert: s/A/, A/
[03:29:25] <sedctl> <chromas> <Leebert> I doubt it, but I, ANAL
[03:29:48] <drgibbon> ahem
[03:29:50] <chromas> I saw it on slashdot so I know it's true. Cross out the parts you don't want
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[03:29:53] * JamesNZ grins
[03:31:37] <Leebert> "No term of this Agreement may be waived or changed except by a writing signed by an expressly authorized representative of Hertz. Rental representatives are not authorized to waive or change any term of this Agreement."
[03:32:24] <chromas> But you don't agree to that until you sign it, right? So you change it, then agree that it can't be changed
[03:32:41] <Leebert> :)
[03:32:47] <Leebert> Computer people make lousy lawyers.
[03:33:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, https://www.archlinux.org
[03:33:23] <NetCraft> ^ 03Arch Linux - News: GnuPG-2.1 and the pacman keyring
[03:34:16] * chromas drops a goatse to see if anyone else leaves
[03:34:18] <chromas> ꜪO3
[03:34:30] <Leebert> I was gonna leave anyway.
[03:35:06] <chromas> But we were having an advanced law discussion :)
[03:35:25] <chromas> thanks, TheMightyBuzzard
[03:35:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> yurp
[03:35:45] * chromas has never looked at the changes before updates
[03:35:55] <chromas> tsk tsk
[03:35:55] <Leebert> True. Given as much time as I've spent reading Wikipedia and watching Matlock, I don't think you're much of a match for me anyway.
[03:36:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> follow the rss feed, it can keep you from hosing things when they knowingly break them
[03:36:22] <Leebert> Sleep time.
[03:36:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.archlinux.org
[03:36:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03Arch Linux: Recent news updates
[03:37:55] <chromas> ooh, I should add that to Bender in another channel :D
[03:38:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> not usually anything on it but when there is it's attention-worthy
[04:02:09] <Subsentient1> http://news.bbcimg.co.uk
[04:02:50] <chromas> Must be a vegetarian :D
[04:02:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Early Docker Backer Launches Competing Linux Container Runtime - http://sylnt.us - containers-ship
[04:03:15] <chromas> Bender: ~define docking
[04:03:40] <Subsentient1> chromas: Look at the text in bottom right corner
[04:03:47] <chromas> I saw
[04:04:06] <chromas> That's when I came up with what I'm going to call a 'joke'
[04:04:22] <Subsentient1> hehe
[04:04:47] <chromas> Well, I'm sure there's some hipster vegans or something that would do that
[04:05:48] <chromas> hipsters--
[04:05:48] <Bender> karma - hipsters: -9
[04:16:02] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[04:16:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 882
[04:16:03] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[04:16:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 881
[04:16:40] <chromas> ++coffee
[04:16:40] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 189
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[04:48:03] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat
[04:52:08] <Subsentient1> ar: http://universe2.us
[04:52:40] <JamesNZ> Subsentient1: Errr, wat?
[04:53:08] <Subsentient1> JamesNZ: Exactly.
[04:53:13] <Subsentient1> $sticky save http://universe2.us
[04:53:13] <aqu4> Sticky saved. It's sticky ID is "9".
[04:54:54] <ar> Subsentient1: why…?
[04:59:21] <swiss> chromas: idk if it was you or crutchy that said "it's only the beginning..." when I said I was off to set up my gf's mom's tv stand
[04:59:27] <swiss> cause whoever said it was right
[04:59:42] <swiss> suddenly i was recabling their whole media center, then setting up christmas decorations
[04:59:43] <chromas> it was crutchy 'cause he's married :D
[05:00:07] <swiss> lol
[05:00:07] <ciri> i missed it, what are you laughing at? >.>
[05:08:46] <Konomi> ciri-- # your face ~
[05:08:46] <Bender> karma - ciri: -31
[05:08:49] * Konomi means
[05:10:38] <Konomi> Subsentient1: well that is terrifying
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[05:44:41] <JamesNZ> Subsentient1: What map is this? http://universe2.us
[05:45:12] <Subsentient1> JamesNZ: A map called Black. It's an NTW with like 32 oils per person.
[05:45:39] <JamesNZ> Subsentient1: Ah. Looks cool.
[05:45:54] <Subsentient1> JamesNZ: It's alright. I prefer 40 oil NTW myself.
[05:46:35] <JamesNZ> Subsentient1: Is there much of a difference?
[05:46:58] <Subsentient1> JamesNZ: it can make a difference, yes. Production etc becomes a good bit slower.
[05:48:30] <JamesNZ> Subsentient1: Ah. Could you send it to me? I can't find it in addons.wz2100.net
[05:52:25] <Subsentient1> JamesNZ: Sec
[05:52:47] <Subsentient1> JamesNZ: http://universe2.us
[05:53:47] <JamesNZ> Subsentient1: Neato, thanks.
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[06:35:56] <crutchy> ++coffee
[06:35:56] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 190
[06:40:24] <ar> tea++
[06:40:24] <Bender> karma - tea: 283
[06:41:10] <SirFinkus> tea++
[06:41:10] <Bender> karma - tea: 284
[06:42:29] <crutchy> !grab Konomi
[06:42:29] <Bender> Added quote 289
[06:42:38] <crutchy> !quote -1
[06:42:38] <Bender> Quote -1 - <Konomi> Subsentient1: well that is terrifying
[06:42:44] <crutchy> aww
[06:42:52] <crutchy> i thought it was the bunny one
[06:42:57] <Konomi> ;p
[06:43:01] <juggs> unlucky
[06:49:14] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:49:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 880
[06:49:15] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:49:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 879
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[06:58:34] <Konomi> caffeine++
[06:58:34] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 61
[06:58:37] * Konomi putters along
[07:00:22] <juggs> are you a steam engine now?
[07:05:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Home Automation without Retrofitting - http://sylnt.us - home-of-the-future
[07:09:17] * crutchy ... resists ... dirty... comment
[07:09:30] <SirFinkus> more like couldn't think of one
[07:09:50] <crutchy> yeah nobody likes riding steam trains anyway
[07:11:06] <SirFinkus> oh, thought you would have gone for a coal burner joke
[07:11:28] <crutchy> i'm not that smrt
[07:12:02] <ar> huh: http://shop.gluglug.org.uk
[07:12:03] <NetCraft> ^ 03LibreBoot T60 | GNU/Linux Computers
[07:12:49] <chromas> gluglug :)
[07:16:12] <crutchy> i'll buy one when it gets up to T800
[07:23:28] <Konomi> they blow out so much steam too ;p
[07:23:57] * JamesNZ chugg chuggs
[07:24:55] * chromas waits for juggs' chugs
[07:25:12] <juggs> o.O
[07:25:26] <JamesNZ> Keep Calm and Chugg on!
[07:25:57] <juggs> did I miss something?
[07:26:20] * Konomi grabs juggs
[07:26:24] <Konomi> nope ~
[07:28:06] * juggs shrugs
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[07:31:01] <Konomi> we're just secretly plotting your down fall really
[07:31:21] <juggs> nothing new then :D
[07:31:24] <Konomi> hehe
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[07:42:03] * Konomi runs around in circles
[07:42:31] * juggs hands the tp to Konomholio
[07:42:56] <Konomi> I doubt I could pull this top over my head for the full effect
[07:44:08] <juggs> You could just say you did - who would know?
[07:44:42] <Konomi> I would it wouldn't be fun then ~
[07:44:46] <Konomi> could use a jumper
[07:45:01] <Konomi> pull over to the en-us peeps
[07:45:38] <juggs> what's with the ~
[07:46:17] <Konomi> habit
[07:46:23] <Konomi> don't question my reality ;_;
[07:46:52] <juggs> ok ~
[07:48:21] <JamesNZ> I reject your reality and substitute my own.
[07:50:19] <Konomi> you don't get to use that line until you singe your eyebrows and most of the front of your head ;p
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[07:52:03] <JamesNZ> Humbug :(
[07:54:36] <Konomi> hehe
[07:54:43] <Konomi> I don't care much for christmas either
[07:55:43] * JamesNZ does, it's a generally very happy time of year
[07:56:36] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles and generally glares about the place
[07:57:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid crocodile gonna eat me dream. i am not captain hook.
[07:57:40] <juggs> Bit early for you isn't it TMB?
[07:57:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~time
[07:57:56] <JamesNZ> That sentence made absolutely no sense to me.
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[07:58:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~time
[07:58:07] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Monday, 8 December 2014, 7:58 am
[07:58:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> stoopid bot
[07:58:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, is bout 2am. three hours early.
[07:59:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't decide if i wanna have a smoke and go back to sleep or give up and start the coffee
[07:59:53] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[07:59:54] <Bender> karma - tea: 285
[07:59:58] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[07:59:58] <Bender> karma - tea: 286
[08:00:06] <JamesNZ> Copying crutchy I see ;)
[08:00:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> or reprogram bender
[08:00:11] * TheMightyBuzzard snickers
[08:00:18] <ar> wtf
[08:00:57] <ar> coffee--
[08:00:57] <Bender> karma - tea: 287
[08:00:59] <juggs> ugh - 2am, back to sleep seems sensible
[08:01:10] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: that's cheating!
[08:01:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> take yer tea lovin n enjoy it =P
[08:01:34] <JamesNZ> Latest I ever stayed up was till 3AM debugging Dijkstra's algorithm.
[08:01:40] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # Fine then!
[08:01:40] <Bender> karma - tea: 288
[08:02:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, prolly right. what strikes me as funny at 2am is not the same as at sane times of the day
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[08:10:17] <crutchy> ~time TheMightyBuzzard
[08:10:19] <exec> Monday, 8 December 2014 @ 2:10 am CST - Ada, OK, USA
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[08:11:09] <ar> ~time
[08:11:11] <exec> Monday, 8 December 2014 @ 9:11 am GMT+1 - Warsaw, Poland
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[10:07:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Simulations Counter Black Hole Illusion - http://sylnt.us - don't-you-run
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[10:43:12] <Konomi> http://chess.bitnik.org
[10:43:12] <NetCraft> ^ 03Surveillance Chess / About / !Mediengruppe Bitnik
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[11:53:09] <ar> http://git.gnupg.org
[11:53:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03git.gnupg.org Git - gnupg.git/commitdiff
[11:54:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, your commit?
[11:54:46] <ar> nope
[11:54:54] <ar> but warsaw hackerspace is going to issue openpgp cards
[11:55:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> eggsellent
[11:56:02] <ar> well, the member cards, used for opening doors and turning equipment on will going to get openpgp app
[11:57:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, that's kinda nifty
[11:58:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> just signed or is there encrypted data?
[12:04:27] <ar> hm?
[12:05:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> or is it just putting a key on the card?
[12:05:50] <ar> afaik it's going to contain the key and do the cryptography stuff
[12:05:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[12:12:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> wish i could remember what i was doing on slash today
[12:26:13] <crutchy> ++coffee
[12:26:13] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 190
[12:32:20] <chromas> ++cheating
[12:32:20] <NetCraft> Karma - cheating: 1000000002
[12:33:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:33:40] <Bender> karma - coffee: 880
[12:33:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheating++
[12:33:54] <Bender> karma - cheating: 5
[12:35:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee-- # For JamesNZ
[12:35:06] <Bender> karma - tea: 289
[12:35:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> good call on that fix, crutchy
[12:36:19] <crutchy> what fix?
[12:38:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> the s/coffee--/tea++/
[12:39:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i stole it for bender
[12:43:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme just say for the record, regexes are my new main beef with python, not whitespace
[12:43:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> they are exceedingly and unnecessarily difficult
[12:44:02] <crutchy> that was chromas' idea
[12:44:21] <crutchy> --coffee
[12:44:21] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 189
[12:44:28] <ar> but python regexes are the same as the ones in perl or ruby'
[12:44:31] <crutchy> oh i guess he disabled it
[12:44:34] <ar> or java, for that matter
[12:44:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, use of them in python is not though
[12:45:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl =~ s/change/me/; vs foo = regex.compile("stuff") and then use it at a later spot.
[12:47:41] <ar> i see
[12:47:48] <crutchy> how do you do different regexps in perl? like match, grep, split?
[12:47:49] <ciri> doing great here
[12:47:55] <crutchy> are they similar syntax?
[12:47:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> grep has a function named grep
[12:48:07] <crutchy> ah. functions
[12:48:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> match is either /foo/ or m/foo/
[12:48:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> same thing but using m/foo/ you can switch the characters that mark out the regex like m#foo#
[12:48:55] <crutchy> yeah
[12:49:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> is a separate split function as well
[12:50:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> no regexes in split, it just splits on whatever you tell it to
[12:51:45] <crutchy> php's preg_split function uses regexp. i thought it was based on the perl lib
[12:51:59] <crutchy> http://php.net
[12:51:59] <NetCraft> ^ 03PHP: preg_split - Manual
[12:52:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly is using match
[12:52:01] <chromas> ++ciri
[12:52:01] <NetCraft> Karma - ciri: 3
[12:52:03] <chromas> ++ciri
[12:52:21] <crutchy> dunno. i hateses regex
[12:52:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> learn em and you become the stuff of legend though
[12:52:54] <chromas> In time, you will learn to love and eat them, crutchy
[12:53:13] <crutchy> they taste like shit
[12:53:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> only if you do em wrong
[12:54:04] <crutchy> which i do 9.9 times out of 8
[12:55:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i'm real fond of s/&#x([a-fA-F0-9]+);/chr($1)/eg; lately
[12:55:52] <crutchy> is that dogfart in chinese?
[12:56:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> turns a hex encoded html entity into a character
[12:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> rather turns all of em in a given string into characters
[12:56:56] <crutchy> &#64;
[12:57:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar, like that
[12:57:10] <crutchy> s/&#x([a-fA-F0-9]+);/chr($1)/
[12:57:21] <crutchy> .poke sedctl
[12:57:21] * exec pokes sedctl
[12:57:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think sedbots like /e switch
[12:57:46] <crutchy> ah
[12:58:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> says execute the second half as perl code rather than as literal text
[12:58:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> which not real easy in awk
[12:58:55] <crutchy> fair nuff
[12:59:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me whilst i go find the bastard who drank my coffee
[12:59:57] <crutchy> maybe it was the fooshed
[13:03:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:03:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 881
[13:04:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think it was the same son of a bitch who keeps using up all the toilet paper
[13:06:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> really wish i could remember what was unfinished on mod work
[13:10:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Snowden Marriage Proposal Was Ordered by SVR, Says Defector - http://sylnt.us - trust-no-one
[13:10:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, okay, i remembered something that could use fixing.
[13:11:53] <chromas> Put in a mod type that trolls the moderator
[13:12:27] <chromas> -1, Something becomes +1, Something Else
[13:12:49] <chromas> (or +0)
[13:14:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> numbers don't show beside the mods
[13:14:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[13:15:13] <chromas> Mods to labels
[13:15:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> all the downmods are currently +0 except Spam which is -1 to the comment and -10 to the commenter's karma
[13:15:50] <chromas> Then they all show up in a series on the comment, but most don't affect the score
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[13:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, i need to change calculation of the most common type of mod
[13:21:29] <chromas> "-1, nuh uh"?
[13:22:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, this batch is gonna be without any proper downmods
[13:22:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept spam
[13:22:35] <chromas> What's the most common type?
[13:24:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> that depends on you lot
[13:24:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm trying to get zero mods to show as most common type if they outweigh upmods
[13:24:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now if you're upmodded you get an upmod type. ditto downmod
[13:25:30] <chromas> Oh, for the label on the comment header?
[13:25:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[13:25:43] <chromas> Make it show all
[13:26:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> does but only if you click on the comment id
[13:26:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[13:26:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[13:32:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> excellent, that's done.
[13:32:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can now have a +4 Disagree/Troll/Off-Topic/Flamebait/Redundant
[13:33:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> pick one, not all
[13:33:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://tmbvm.ddns.net
[13:33:56] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN (TMB dev) comment by The Mighty Buzzard (18)
[13:36:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, forgot to actually ban folks from getting mod points if they were mod banned
[13:43:00] <chromas> Why does Disagree get an 'extra' modifier? Is that from the most popular calculation you mentioned?
[13:43:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... lemme see whatcha mean
[13:43:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that's something you can set in comment preferences.
[13:44:09] <chromas> In the 'breakdown' block
[13:44:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it will be as soon as I add disagree and spam and remove under/overrated
[13:45:12] <chromas> Only the modifier of the most popular vote gets applied?
[13:45:25] <chromas> I guess I never noticed that before
[13:46:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> the user specified modifier (from the comments page of preferences) only gets applied to the most popular reason, yeah
[13:48:42] <chromas> Off never used those before and just read at -1
[13:48:52] <chromas> I've
[13:49:17] <chromas> Touchscreen_keyboard--
[13:49:17] <Bender> karma - touchscreen_keyboard: -1
[13:49:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, same same
[13:50:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think a lot of us do
[13:50:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is good actually
[13:51:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna go start some more coffee before i run out of this cup and end up wanting to kill someone
[13:52:08] <chromas> That's the recommended mode while modding. Maybe we could have a checkbox to switch to that when we want to go on a mod spree
[13:52:46] * chromas backs away; hides behind poutine
[14:03:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'better. no danger of running out of coffee
[14:03:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[14:03:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 882
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[14:25:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, janrinok
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[14:45:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> EWWWWW! some fooker hardcoded the comment preferences page comment score modifications selectors
[14:45:53] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: mornin'
[14:46:22] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: ... or rather, mid-afternoon for me.
[14:47:07] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: Is it a _big_ problem to remove the hardcoding?
[14:47:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair nuff. wacky europeans and their fancy altered time
[14:47:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, bit of one
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[14:47:52] <janrinok> ..I'm sorry to disagree, but _we_ had this morning before you - you're the ones that need to get a grip!
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[14:49:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry but if it comes to taking the word of a huge ball of fusing hydrogen or you, i gotta go with the huge ball of fusing hydrogen. it's way more scary.
[14:49:21] <janrinok> lol
[14:49:21] <ciri> i don't think it's that funny lol
[14:50:44] * TheMightyBuzzard glares at his coffee cup
[14:50:44] <janrinok> To further emphasise my European-ness - its time for a cup of tea
[14:51:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> yah, i think i'm mildly jealous that you lot get an extra meal-like time
[14:51:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> envious rather
[14:52:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> fook it, i'll hardcode the new ones in.
[14:55:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> and that's that
[14:58:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> now, just need to redirect editors to the story page after unspamming a comment...
[14:59:34] * janrinok decides that, in months to come, TMB will again pick up the same piece of code and exclaim 'some fooker hardcoded the comment preferences.....'
[15:00:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> quite possibly but i take comfort that someone else looked at it and left a comment that we shouldn't be doing it that way as well
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[15:02:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin mechanicjay
[15:02:41] <janrinok> mechanicjay: hi mj
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[15:03:45] <mechanicjay> Hey TheMightyBuzzard, janrinok.
[15:03:58] <Blackmoore> mornin
[15:03:59] <janrinok> mechanicjay: how's things?
[15:04:03] <Blackmoore> coffee++
[15:04:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 883
[15:04:12] <janrinok> Good afternoon Blackmoore
[15:04:15] <Blackmoore> 883?
[15:04:23] <mechanicjay> not too bad, i suppose.
[15:04:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i took the 9000 back
[15:04:38] <Blackmoore> ah
[15:04:50] <mechanicjay> coffee++
[15:04:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
[15:04:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> did put this in for JamesNZ though...
[15:04:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee--
[15:05:00] <Bender> karma - tea: 290
[15:05:00] <janrinok> the coffee had more than 9000 in karma?
[15:05:08] <janrinok> lol
[15:05:09] <ciri> heh
[15:05:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, thanks to some score file editing
[15:06:01] <Blackmoore> at least it wasnt "fixed" but channel spamming
[15:06:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> got just a tad tired of JamesNZ trolling the hell out of coffee every single day and that leading to karma wars channel spam so you can't troll coffee anymore
[15:07:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, mornin, Blackmoore
[15:08:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! figured out how to redirect you ed types to the right page instead of just displaying something similar
[15:09:57] <janrinok> it sounds like a good idea - if only I knew what you were talking about....
[15:10:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> will have an email out about it some time this week
[15:10:34] <janrinok> I look forward to it...
[15:10:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly tomorrow
[15:20:09] <Blackmoore> that said the queue is really short this morning
[15:21:04] <Blackmoore> wish i had time to go look around for content right now bu t i have a small pile of work to deal with first
[15:21:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't had a look at queue, or any news for that matter, yet today. guess i could go find and sub some stuff after I get this fix tested.
[15:25:12] <Blackmoore> well there's a us centered one I'm gonna approve for later.. we should probably run the one about drugs on friday
[15:26:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> more potheads then or something?
[15:30:34] <Blackmoore> people looking at weekend. seems a good time to talk about weed or whiskey
[15:30:39] <Blackmoore> hmm..
[15:31:06] <Blackmoore> (makes note to look up articles about craft whiskey for site)
[15:32:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> eggsellent. believe i'm done with mod work entirely
[15:40:05] <mechanicjay> framesets...oy.
[15:40:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah, stupid brain, quit coming up with reasons for me to not be finished.
[15:40:45] <janrinok> rss-bot has produced nothing in the last hour - otherwise I would have submitted it
[15:41:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ouch
[15:41:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> must be a slow news day all around
[15:41:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hey, i don't need to do that after all! yay me!
[15:42:42] <janrinok> it looks like regurgitator crashed at 05:19 UTC - that explains why nothing is being added by rss-bot
[15:42:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[15:43:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> that a boron bot?
[15:43:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> er carbon?
[15:43:35] <janrinok> you're asking the wrong person - can I have a question of Mesopatamian Water Divining Tools?
[15:43:41] <mechanicjay> I can post an ask Soylent News. My client likes the resizable screen regents afforded by a frameset in their old craplication and while they like the new css layout, would really like that functionality back. Is this possible without a criminal amount of javascript or should I tell them to go screw because HTML 5?
[15:43:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, it up now?
[15:44:06] <janrinok> looking
[15:44:23] <mechanicjay> Is that semi-angry rant worth a cleaned up sub?
[15:44:34] <janrinok> looks like it might be thanks, but it will take a while to find something I suppose
[15:45:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno why cron didn't auto-reload it but i was already logged in to carbon so no sweat
[15:45:19] <janrinok> much obliged, non-the-less
[15:45:28] <janrinok> or rather nonetheles
[15:45:35] <janrinok> *nonetheless
[15:45:52] * janrinok blames keyboad and sunspots for crap typing
[15:45:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> mechanicjay, do it. should be good for a few comments worth of telling their own misfortunes at least
[15:46:12] <janrinok> lol - news _is_ slow....
[15:46:18] <mechanicjay> also, javascript is the devil.
[15:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> what's the regurgitator bot named btw?
[15:51:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... i dunno what's up with regurgitator
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[15:52:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, got it now
[15:53:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> it had half-crashed. couldn't rejoin but still showed up in the process table so the cron job thought it was still working.
[15:57:59] <janrinok> What was the problem? A half crash?
[15:58:38] <janrinok> Yehaa - it's certainly working now!
[15:59:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> it had somehow kept running even though it wasn't connected or in any of the channels it should be, so the cron job didn't know to restart it.
[16:12:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Device Converts Salt Water to Drinking Water Using Solar Power - http://sylnt.us - new-twist-on-old-idea
[16:15:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://phys.org
[16:15:08] <NetCraft> ^ 03World-first 'bionic bra' inches closer to reality
[16:17:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> or better yet, the actual article instead of phys.org's bastardization: http://media.uow.edu.au
[16:17:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03404 - Page Not Found - Directory Services @ UOW
[16:17:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[16:17:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, maybe don't cut after the ? then... http://media.uow.edu.au
[16:17:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03World-first ‘Bionic Bra’ inches closer to reality - News Media @ UOW
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[16:32:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> bewbs++
[16:32:43] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 32
[16:33:21] janrinok is now known as janrinok|afk
[16:46:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[16:46:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[17:19:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> slow irc day as well as a slow news day looks like.
[17:32:31] <Blackmoore> yeah.
[17:32:32] <Blackmoore> http://boingboing.net
[17:32:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03Gift Guide 2014 - Boing Boing
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[17:33:00] <Blackmoore> we ought to run a gift guide as a "ask soylent"
[17:38:32] <Blackmoore> and into the submissions that goes.
[17:45:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, good idear
[17:46:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> interesting: http://www.theregister.co.uk
[17:46:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03Which country has 2nd largest social welfare system in the world? • The Register
[18:16:50] janrinok|afk is now known as janrinok
[18:49:58] <ar> huh: https://www.youtube.com
[18:49:58] <NetCraft> ^ 03Coder Girl - YouTube
[18:56:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> and submitted. https://soylentnews.org
[18:56:16] <NetCraft> ^ 0304SN Submission by The Mighty Buzzard: Site News: Proposed Moderation Rework Experiment
[18:59:34] <ar> https://kb.isc.org
[18:59:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03CVE-2014-8500: A Defect in Delegation Handling Can Be Exploited to Crash BIND | Internet Systems Consortium Knowledge Base
[19:04:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh, helium needs bind updated i suppose
[19:09:28] <mythterj> Wonder if Openbsd knew something when they dropped bind in favor of unbound.....
[19:09:59] <ar> mythterj: yes, bind codebase has always been "rusty"
[19:10:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> and of course ubuntu doesn't have an update out for trusty yet
[19:14:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chicago City Council Strongly Approves $13 Minimum Wage - http://sylnt.us - consumers-with-more-money-to-spend
[19:14:53] <Subsentient> I need feedback to determine if a project I am contemplating is worth the effort.
[19:15:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke, shoot
[19:15:19] <Blackmoore> ok
[19:15:21] <Subsentient> I am contemplating a project called NEXUS, named after the big villain in the Warzone 2100 RTS game.
[19:15:41] <Subsentient> It's a way to have multiple IRC clients connected across multiple IP addresses and still show as one IRC user
[19:15:46] <Subsentient> Any client
[19:15:49] <Subsentient> mix and match
[19:15:52] <Subsentient> Windows Mac or Linux
[19:16:32] <Blackmoore> universal chat client; multi channel/ip. interesting
[19:16:41] <Subsentient> So I could have three copies of XChat connected, but they'd all get the nick "Subsentient", and when I typed a message in one, it'd go out the nick 'Subsentient'. If someone highlights me, I get it on all open clients
[19:16:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> does sound interesting
[19:16:53] <mythterj> Because there is a shortage of IRC clients?
[19:17:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds more like a proxy
[19:17:12] <Subsentient> No, NEXUS would be so I don't have Subsentient and Subsentient1 and Subsentient2 if I have three machines with XChat open
[19:17:13] <janrinok> I can see it being useful for limited cases, but not something I would use often
[19:17:37] <Subsentient> They'd all go through NEXUS and it'd unify these three IRC instances into one.
[19:17:50] <Blackmoore> isnt that a problem for the server?
[19:18:14] <Blackmoore> it's looking at your ip, and says - hey, this is a differen address.
[19:18:24] <Subsentient> No see the idea is
[19:18:36] <Subsentient> your IRC clients connect to NEXUS as if it was an IRC server
[19:18:52] <Subsentient> and then NEXUS connects to say Freenode
[19:19:05] <Subsentient> and instead of having three Xchats with 3 names, they all get the same nick
[19:19:16] <Subsentient> type in one it shows on all, get a PM as SUbsentient and all three clients get a dialog
[19:19:33] <Blackmoore> oh.. i get it. the NEXUS is acting as your point of contact to the irc channel.
[19:19:37] <Subsentient> Yes.
[19:19:45] <janrinok> OK, that is making more sense to me now, and I could see it being useful. I'm sometimes logged on here on several machines. Sort of having an in-house network aggregator?
[19:19:53] <Subsentient> Yes.
[19:19:57] <Subsentient> But only for IRC.
[19:20:14] <Blackmoore> hmm..
[19:20:22] <janrinok> yep, I could use it.
[19:20:24] <mythterj> Sounds kind of confusing, and perhaps dangerous when you say the wrong thing and piss off three different channels ;-O
[19:20:36] <Subsentient> lol no it doesn't work like that
[19:20:50] <Subsentient> if one client joins, NEXUS sends the join command and informs all your clients that you joined
[19:21:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically links Subsentient, Subsentient1, and SubsentientN all together as Subsentient as far as your multiple irc clients are concerned, yes?
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[19:21:30] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Correct.
[19:22:13] <mythterj> So more like a google Hangouts for IRC, multiple devices, one connection?
[19:22:19] <Subsentient> Yeah.
[19:22:56] <Subsentient> Client and OS won't matter. You'll need to keep a port open for the NEXUS server however.
[19:23:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> make it multi-user and you got yourself a handy doodad
[19:23:09] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: That's the plan.
[19:23:10] <janrinok> OK, when do you get to the bit where you ask for money - and how much do you want? ;)
[19:23:40] <Subsentient> janrinok: Nahh, I just looking for a worthwhile project to occupy my time.
[19:23:54] <mythterj> It will be free if you share your contactxs list and photos..
[19:23:59] <janrinok> I could certainly use it
[19:24:09] <janrinok> mythterj: lol
[19:24:21] <Subsentient> janrinok: The only problem is that multi-user could be confusing from a configuration perspective.
[19:25:17] <Subsentient> Of course I could just allow whatever uses your nickname to be auto-added to the list of devices.
[19:25:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, have you considered the wonderful world of slash coding?
[19:25:36] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: I prefer client side code. Low level, as a matter of fact.
[19:25:46] <Subsentient> This project will be done in C99.
[19:25:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, sucks to be me then, as usual
[19:26:01] <janrinok> sadist
[19:27:28] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: But indeed, there seems to be enough interest to make it worthwhile. I believe I'm going to start work on NEXUS today.
[19:27:37] <Subsentient> I'd certainly find it useful.
[19:27:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's generally enough
[19:28:13] <Subsentient> yeah but it's not *imperative* so I wouldn't want to commit to that unless someone else would find it worthwhile
[19:28:58] <janrinok> well, I'd like to give something like that a try.
[19:29:16] <Subsentient> I will write it then, and when I get a semi-functional prerelease, I'll post it here.
[19:29:22] <Subsentient> It's been a while since I've fiddled with networking
[19:29:27] <janrinok> sounds like a plan....
[19:29:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i wrote a facebook client strictly cause i didn't wanna see anything but text-only posts.
[19:29:46] <Subsentient> aqu4bot gets updates but I don't really need much networking tuff for her
[19:30:10] <Subsentient> she's easy to work on. Her code is pretty straightforward.
[19:30:39] * Subsentient grumbles at the assholes who told him not to write an IRC bot in C, proceeds to show them is new IRC bot in C
[19:31:24] <Subsentient> $replace Subsentient is new^his new
[19:31:24] <aqu4> Subsentient: "<Subsentient>: ** Subsentient grumbles at the assholes who told him not to write an IRC bot in C, proceeds to show them his new IRC bot in C **"
[19:31:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i never told ya not to, just told ya you were a bit loony to
[19:31:58] <Subsentient> k afk
[19:32:02] <janrinok> I didn't say that you shouldn't - just that you must like pain
[19:32:24] <Subsentient> no no, I meant that when I was writing aqu4bot people told me not to write her in C
[19:32:46] <janrinok> That's another good reason to do something from time to time
[19:32:52] <Subsentient> they said python or perl or php or ruby but not C. I spit on them and my C IRC bot throws burritos at them.
[19:33:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito them
[19:33:13] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at them
[19:33:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure nuff does
[19:33:35] * Subsentient really likes C
[19:33:44] * Subsentient likes small languages
[19:33:48] * janrinok would never have guessed
[19:34:39] <Subsentient> in any case, afk. Gonna get some meatless nachos and work on NEXUS at Del Taco.
[19:34:49] <aqu4> meat is murder.
[19:35:09] <paulej72> compiled languages and the web make debugging harder, as you have to compile between each fix
[19:35:43] <janrinok> hi paulej72
[19:35:44] <paulej72> but they do kick ass in the speed department
[19:35:48] <paulej72> hello
[19:35:49] <ciri> yeah, yeah hi HI paulej72
[19:36:00] <paulej72> diaf ciri
[19:36:57] <janrinok> paulej72: OK, I think I've worked diaf out now...
[19:37:16] <paulej72> ~define diaf
[19:37:18] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3diaf: Die in a Fire
[19:37:30] <janrinok> Hey, I got it right
[19:37:40] <paulej72> picked that up from TheMightyBuzzard
[19:37:58] * TheMightyBuzzard nods sagely
[19:38:03] <janrinok> its not unknown here in Europe, but it is not very common
[19:39:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> don lookit me, i got it from the interwebs
[19:40:01] <janrinok> time for another cup of tea! tea++
[19:40:08] <janrinok> tea+
[19:40:14] <janrinok> f*ck it
[19:40:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee-- works now too
[19:40:30] <Bender> karma - tea: 291
[19:40:47] * TheMightyBuzzard is evil and sneaky like that
[19:41:07] <janrinok> my keyboard need de-gunking. I think there must be almost a full meal in there....
[19:41:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's still fairly new but i think my model-M could use a run through the engine degreaser at the carwash.
[19:51:35] <Blackmoore> *gets out the power washer*
[19:56:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> time for breakfast and a nap, i believe
[19:56:50] <chromas> Subsentient: sounds like quassel
[19:57:05] <chromas> Or multi-user znc
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[20:04:42] <janrinok> hi juggs
[20:05:08] <janrinok> how do the new shoes fit?
[20:05:08] <ciri> doing good, and you?
[20:08:09] <janrinok> Blackmoore: ping
[20:15:47] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: ping
[20:15:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[20:16:16] <janrinok> your submission about framesets...
[20:16:18] <janrinok> Blackmoore edited it but the last line is incomplete
[20:16:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'not my submission about framesets
[20:16:40] <janrinok> should it be 'the future is HTML5" ?
[20:16:59] <janrinok> in that case, sry to disturb you....
[20:17:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries
[20:17:19] <janrinok> damn you're right - it was mechanicjay...
[20:17:23] <janrinok> mechanicjay: ping
[20:17:31] <mechanicjay> janrinok: pong
[20:17:38] <janrinok> your submission about framesets...
[20:17:42] <mechanicjay> did I something in the story?
[20:17:48] <janrinok> Blackmoore edited it but the last line is incomplete
[20:17:49] <janrinok> should it be 'the future is HTML5" ?
[20:18:39] <janrinok> mechanicjay: ^^^
[20:18:47] <mechanicjay> it could be if it reads better. It was intended to be a bad joke.
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[20:19:07] <janrinok> lol - well Blackmoore released it anyway
[20:19:10] <mechanicjay> Like, this is the way it is because reasons.
[20:19:23] <mechanicjay> oh well
[20:19:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> "Site News: Proposed Moderation Rework Experiment" could stand to go out today though so i have as much time as possible to implement any really good suggestions.
[20:20:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't do it myself like NC would have. no uber powah on the main site cept low level systems stuff.
[20:20:55] <janrinok> OK, thx
[20:21:02] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard is like Administrator on Windows
[20:21:04] <janrinok> I'll do it
[20:21:48] * TheMightyBuzzard is fscking root but refuses to give himself web interface God-age.
[20:22:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> keeps me humble
[20:22:31] <chromas> That's like Admin :) Don't have power over everything, but you have the power to give yourself power over everything if you want
[20:23:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, be nice or i set a cron job to switch your theme to OMG PWNIES every five minutes
[20:24:18] <Blackmoore> doh
[20:24:22] <chromas> :( Please no; not 'til there's a NightPwnie Edition
[20:24:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh... thas a good idea
[20:24:36] <chromas> MoonSparkle or something
[20:24:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Darth PWNIES
[20:24:59] <janrinok> Blackmoore: I've released your stories and edited the one about framesets (see up the page...)
[20:25:20] <Blackmoore> ty janrinok
[20:26:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> off to the post sammich nap now.
[20:26:32] <janrinok> have a good one TMB
[20:27:00] <Blackmoore> i'm looking at TMB's submission right now
[20:27:15] <Blackmoore> should i set it up to go up next?
[20:27:37] <janrinok> me too....
[20:27:40] <janrinok> Yes, I will leave it to you and then release your story
[20:28:04] <Blackmoore> sorry janrinok
[20:28:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> up to yall. any time today's fine by me.
[20:28:12] <janrinok> np - you go for it
[20:28:16] <Blackmoore> k
[20:29:25] <Blackmoore> aw crap. it looks like we both approved the Study: High Level Engagement in Comment Sections c janrinok
[20:30:12] <janrinok> I submitted it, you edited it, I 2nd edited it
[20:31:47] <Blackmoore> but it's in the list twice with different times
[20:32:24] <janrinok> ah I'd better update my list
[20:33:00] <janrinok> I can't have released it - I did the submission
[20:34:00] <Blackmoore> wierd. the one that's marked as yours doesnt have a department
[20:35:10] <Blackmoore> ok, fixed that
[20:35:51] <janrinok> just updating my front page to see what has actually gone anywhere...
[20:35:52] <janrinok> did it hit the front page? I can't get a refresh at the moment
[20:36:20] <Blackmoore> no. it did not
[20:36:40] <janrinok> kill it and run with yours then
[20:36:48] <Blackmoore> killed
[20:37:19] <janrinok> I can't get a refresh due to congestion on local users
[20:37:22] <Blackmoore> would you kindly approve TMB's and moe the time for it to go off sooner?
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[20:44:13] <janrinok> Story goes out in about 15 minutes as it stands
[20:45:09] <Blackmoore> thank you
[20:47:27] <janrinok> Time for me to call it a day. Have a good one, everybody!
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[20:50:24] <crutchy> ++coffee
[20:50:24] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 190
[20:51:42] <crutchy> bewbs++
[20:51:42] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 33
[20:51:55] <JamesNZ> ~gday crutchy
[20:51:56] * exec abnormally cracks open a bathtub of beer for crutchy
[20:52:04] <crutchy> hi JamesNZ
[20:52:32] <crutchy> how you been?
[20:52:32] <ciri> doing great here
[20:52:45] <crutchy> ciri, been you how
[20:52:56] <JamesNZ> Pretty good thanks :) Been learning some Lisp. How about you?
[20:53:18] <crutchy> first coffee, gotta go to work soon. meh :/
[20:53:34] <JamesNZ> You're a sysadmin, right?
[20:53:36] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:53:36] <Bender> karma - tea: 292
[20:53:37] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:53:37] <Bender> karma - tea: 293
[20:53:44] <crutchy> squashed a nice bug last night though which was good
[20:53:47] <crutchy> nah engineer
[20:54:00] <JamesNZ> Software engineer?
[20:54:01] <crutchy> i do a bit of sysadmin on the side
[20:54:08] <crutchy> structural/mechanical
[20:54:16] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[20:54:50] * JamesNZ gets the impression you don't enjoy it :P
[20:54:51] <crutchy> i look after works hypervisor and vm servers with another guy
[20:55:15] <crutchy> it could be much worse. first world problems really :p
[20:55:28] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[20:55:30] <crutchy> too lazy to get out of bed. stuff like that
[20:55:51] <JamesNZ> You need to invent a de-lazifier ;)
[20:56:04] <crutchy> hah. i'd buy that
[20:59:28] <Blackmoore> huh. my kids were pretty good at getting me out of bed.
[20:59:46] <Blackmoore> of course that was before they became teenagers
[21:00:06] <crutchy> my kids stay in bed till i get up. i have nfi how we managed that
[21:00:52] <Blackmoore> but still - really damn good at getting me out of bed, heart racing. wondering "what the hell did they break now?"
[21:01:11] <crutchy> heh. sounds like the best kind of alarm clock
[21:01:56] <Blackmoore> it was. :)
[21:02:04] <Blackmoore> damn shame they grew up.
[21:03:35] <crutchy> people ponder the meaning of life. i dunno for sure what it is but on a personal level i reckon kids play a big part in it
[21:04:04] <crutchy> people who decide not to have kids miss out big time
[21:16:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site News: Proposed Moderation Rework Experiment - http://sylnt.us - pay-no-attention-to-the-man-behind-the-curtain
[21:16:40] <SirFinkus> I HATE IT ALREADY
[21:17:34] <crutchy> http://abcnews.go.com
[21:17:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03Plane Crashes Into Maryland Home, At Least 3 Dead - ABC News
[21:18:04] <crutchy> that would be a rude awakening
[21:27:22] <Blackmoore> or one hellof an alarm clock
[21:27:41] <chromas> for those who don't have kids…
[21:28:05] <Blackmoore> or care for thier own property or longevity
[21:28:25] <Blackmoore> but i'd love to see the look on the neigbors faces.
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[21:38:04] <JamesNZ> emacs++
[21:38:04] <Bender> karma - emacs: 23
[21:44:01] <chromas> https://www.ssllabs.com
[21:44:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03Qualys SSL Labs - Projects / SSL Server Test / soylentnews.org
[21:46:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study: High Level Engagement in Comment Sections can Curb Internet Trolling - http://sylnt.us - all-we-need-to-do-is-keep-talking
[21:50:13] <chromas> https://community.qualys.com
[21:50:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03Security Labs: Poodle Bites TLS | Qualys Community
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[23:16:47] <juggs> ~g'day everyone
[23:16:48] * exec accidentally postulates a blagoblag of $insert_beverage_here towards everyone
[23:18:38] <chromas> ~'day juggs
[23:18:43] <chromas> ~g'day juggs
[23:18:44] * exec suspiciously poops an assfull of glowballs for juggs
[23:18:54] <juggs> noice!
[23:19:03] <juggs> how goes it?
[23:20:12] <chromas> I was reading SN (gasp!) and someone mentioned Krita so I'm trying it out again
[23:20:32] <chromas> It's getting pretty fancy; maybe I'll use gimp less
[23:21:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> heya, juggs.
[23:22:00] <juggs> hi Buzz - having a good day?
[23:22:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, rolled the initial pull request out. be filling notes tomorrow. already got the proposal post out n sitting at... 29 comments as we speak.
[23:23:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> bout to go make/eat/clean-up-after dinner and give a stab at answering questions.
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[23:27:59] <juggs> ahh - so we're romping along to hit 14.12 rather than 15.01 then?
[23:39:00] <Blackmoore> 'ello juggs ; and good night all!
[23:39:16] <juggs> night Blackmoore
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[23:47:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dutch Lawyers Seek to Overturn Data Retention - http://sylnt.us - Big-Brother