#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-06
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[00:00:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Green Light for European Extremely Large Telescope - http://sylnt.us - T-o-U-S
[00:00:28] <mrcoolbp> no really, I can switch credits and debits in my head, but god the rest of it is a crapshow
[00:00:43] <paulej72> it is probably a radio telescope so it would not see the green light
[00:00:49] <crutchy> ~define crapshow
[00:01:03] <exec> crapshow: unable to find definition
[00:01:04] <crutchy> aw shit
[00:01:05] <mrcoolbp> we should do a call-out to the community to see if we have any accountants that read and would be willing to help
[00:01:08] <crutchy> need to add that
[00:01:11] <juggs> mrcoolbp, I'll take a look at the filing forms and guidance - at this point I've no idea if it is a one page 4 line item job, or some byzantine clusterfuck
[00:01:14] <mrcoolbp> that is if juggs and I can't figure it out
[00:01:31] <crutchy> ~define-add crapshow, something really bad to do with accounting stuffs
[00:01:32] <exec> definition for term "crapshow" set to "something really bad to do with accounting stuffs"
[00:01:45] <mrcoolbp> juggs: likely the latter based on my dealings with the IRS thus far
[00:02:07] <crutchy> just tell the IRS you're a democrat and they'll do it for you
[00:02:07] <mrcoolbp> hopefully not, we don't have super-complicated business, just a bunch of small transactions
[00:02:13] <juggs> mrcoolbp, do we need to file both federal and state returns?
[00:02:20] <mrcoolbp> yes, I beleive so
[00:02:21] <crutchy> SN needs an EBT card
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[00:02:28] <juggs> okies
[00:02:41] <mrcoolbp> crutchy: we applied but we were "too cool" they said
[00:03:14] * juggs wanders off to quickly hammer out the announcement bits n bobs - otherwise the time elapsed is going to get silly
[00:03:28] <mrcoolbp> yeah, do that
[00:03:35] <mrcoolbp> I'll stop bothering the for the time being
[00:03:39] <paulej72> time is relative
[00:03:42] * mrcoolbp has to run out in an hour though
[00:04:07] <crutchy> how can we possibly be cooler than these chicks: https://www.youtube.com
[00:04:08] <NetCraft> ^ 03Chapter Jackson - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Explicit) - YouTube
[00:04:12] <paulej72> just be careful, running after dark leads to car crashes
[00:04:38] <juggs> no probs mrcoolbp
[00:14:11] <chromas> crutchy: a couple hundred moneys won't be enough to cover the bacon and coffee costs 'round here
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[00:27:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I have read the logs, and it just so happens that I have 2 accounting texts here.
[00:28:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm willing to play magic 8-ball with them if you have a question.
[00:29:08] <Ethanol-fueled> At least until I can crowbar my ass off my seat and start working on my assignment due tonight.
[00:30:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Financial and Managerial accounting texts aka the Old and New Testaments of the Jewish Bible.
[00:31:46] <crutchy> "thow thy enemy" eh?
[00:31:58] <crutchy> s/th/kn/
[00:31:58] <sedctl> <crutchy> "know thy enemy" eh?
[00:32:23] * crutchy needs keyboard with mind-reading driver
[00:32:50] <crutchy> hmm. no i would get kickbanned if that happened :p
[00:32:52] <Ethanol-fueled> and planning more sonic warfare against fuckhead if he acts up tonight.
[00:33:08] <Ethanol-fueled> what do you think would be more annoying? A constant 440 Hz tone or a shepard tone?
[00:33:24] <crutchy> brown note :D
[00:33:31] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-Fueled: what we really need is someone that actually knows what's in those text to guide us, not sure if just having them available would solve our problem
[00:33:51] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp - Yeah, I know. Just feeling helpful.
[00:34:00] <crutchy> just input all financial data into google and it will solve all problems
[00:34:04] <mrcoolbp> tjx though
[00:34:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Go to H&R Block
[00:34:19] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: is that any better?
[00:34:23] <mrcoolbp> s/tj/than/
[00:34:23] <sedctl> <mrcoolbp> thanx though
[00:34:38] <chromas> How many of those guys know what they're doing beyond typing into the magic software?
[00:34:53] <mrcoolbp> .001%
[00:34:54] <chromas> or is that just the taxt-time guys who are dummies there
[00:34:59] <Ethanol-fueled> WHOA YES!
[00:35:05] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[00:35:06] <NetCraft> ^ 0310 Minutes of Rising Shepard Tone and Falling Shepard Tone At The Same Time - YouTube
[00:35:23] <Ethanol-fueled> ol' meathead next door is gonna get that next time he gets obnoxious
[00:35:49] <chromas> lame
[00:35:54] <chromas> only comes out the left speaker
[00:36:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Chromas, it's for the purpose of angering a neighbor with whom I share a wall.
[00:36:29] <Ethanol-fueled> babies crying is losing its effectiveness
[00:36:38] <Ethanol-fueled> plus I gotta keep manually replaying the videos
[00:36:53] <mrcoolbp> https://www.youtube.com
[00:36:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03Everybody Loves Hypnotoad - YouTube
[00:37:06] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: play some Yiddish music
[00:37:10] <chromas> You know, jingling coins
[00:37:17] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, you thinkin of Klesmer?
[00:37:23] <Ethanol-fueled> They might just laugh at that.
[00:38:57] <Ethanol-fueled> I just played a short clip of rising and falling shepard tone out loud to provide a warning in case they get too uppity.
[00:39:33] <chromas> Under the Skin has an obnoxious noise for the first 80 minutes too
[00:43:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, time for homework. I'll probably come back later friendly and amicable and then degenerate into insults and slurred speech.
[00:43:35] <Ethanol-fueled> For some mysterious reason. Anyway, take care all. I hope you solve your accounting woes, mrcoolbp
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[00:43:46] <mrcoolbp> thx
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[01:02:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Lurking while doing boring homework.
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[01:04:54] <SirFinkus> exciting
[01:05:53] <SirFinkus> I got a pack of these today, http://www.sierranevada.com a bit mediocre
[01:05:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03Celebration Ale | www.sierranevada.com
[01:05:58] <Ethanol-fueled> gotta add a couple new commands, a secret room, win and lose conditions, and items to a text-based Zork clone.
[01:06:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Finkus, that's a beer you drink wtih Christmas dinner, like, for the spicy flavor
[01:06:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Goes well with pumpin pie too.
[01:06:54] <SirFinkus> it wasn't very memorable to me, I'll stick with the torpedo
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[01:08:51] <Ethanol-fueled> torpedo's on sale for 13.99 a 12-pack bottles, and that's in the ritzy neighborhood
[01:15:36] <SirFinkus> ouch
[01:16:16] <juggs> Seriously - a whole hour to blast out a few paragraph email... I'm out of shape!
[01:18:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Got my collective nightly drink of 2.25 liters of sauvignon blank
[01:19:19] <juggs> 3 bottle equivalent if I am not mistaken..... I'm glad I am not your liver
[01:19:21] <ciri> 4
[01:19:22] <ciri> 5
[01:19:24] <ciri> 6
[01:19:26] <ciri> 7
[01:19:28] <ciri> 8
[01:19:30] <ciri> 9
[01:19:32] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:19:35] <juggs> clever ciri
[01:19:36] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, a big bottle and a small bottle
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[01:19:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I anticipate less drinking when I have more money to do hobbies and shit.
[01:19:56] <SirFinkus> oooh, fancy
[01:21:19] <juggs> Do you drink it a room temperature through a straw EF?
[01:21:26] <juggs> s/a/at/
[01:21:26] <sedctl> <juggs> Do you drink it at room temperature through a straw EF?
[01:21:38] <Ethanol-fueled> drink it cold, in a glass drinking glass, no straw or ice.
[01:22:31] <juggs> and wouldn't you have more money to do hobbies and shit if you didn't buy 3 bottles a night? :D
[01:22:34] <Ethanol-fueled> White whine because it's the perfect balance of potency, lack of gassiness or fizziness, and lack of hangover. Definitely not my favorite drink for taste, but for binge-drinking it's pretty boss.
[01:23:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Juggs, that's only during weekends. My hobbies involve needing an expensive roof-rack and frequently going out of town.
[01:23:24] <Ethanol-fueled> And if I get a gun wtih my tuition reimbursement, buying expensive ammo.
[01:23:33] <SirFinkus> hangovers can be avoided with hydration
[01:23:40] <Ethanol-fueled> water++
[01:23:40] <Bender> karma - water: 20
[01:23:43] <Ethanol-fueled> vitamins++
[01:23:43] <Bender> karma - vitamins: 2
[01:24:09] <juggs> Yah fitting a roof rack, driving and toting guns all probably don't go well with being piss drunk
[01:24:31] <SirFinkus> sounds like it's be loads of fun, just not prudent
[01:25:11] <juggs> in the short term sure... drive around shooting out the driver's window :D
[01:25:41] * juggs sees the a hospital, morgue or barred window in your future
[01:25:55] <SirFinkus> we all end up in the morgue
[01:26:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Juggs, we save the drinking for after the physical stuff and shooting.
[01:27:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, maybe 1 or 2 beers while shooting.
[01:27:24] * SirFinkus won't touch a drop when guns are in the picture
[01:27:51] <Ethanol-fueled> smart move, Finkus
[01:28:45] <Ethanol-fueled> actually thinking about a new laptop.
[01:29:08] <Ethanol-fueled> that Dell Latitude D600 has been extremely kind and abuse-tolerant but it's just too damn old and small-screened.
[01:29:53] <Ethanol-fueled> specs be damned, 'm looking for reliability first and a medium to large screen second.
[01:31:20] <SirFinkus> I've heard good things about the old thinkpads
[01:31:34] <SirFinkus> but I don't have any personal experience
[01:31:45] <juggs> SirFinkus, that is the art of the crystal ball gazer - through something generic out (we've all got a morgue for sure, hospital likely or jail hope not ahead of us) - then look for tells to be more "insightful" :D
[01:31:52] <juggs> throw*
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[01:32:55] <SpallsHurgenson> mm, thinkpads. they're indestructible
[01:46:13] <SpallsHurgenson> I still have - and even occassionally use - my 90s-era Thinkpad. Slow as a dog, but it keeps chuggin' on
[01:46:33] <chromas> http://www.ponyos.org
[01:46:34] <NetCraft> ^ 03PonyOS - My Little Unix: Kernels are Magic!
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[02:17:03] * juggs allows self to become sidetracked
[02:18:01] <Ethanol-fueled> allright, done
[02:18:26] <Ethanol-fueled> well, looks like I won't be joining SN under an alter-ego this spring, I'm taking database systems instead of service-learning
[02:18:37] <Ethanol-fueled> good news is that if I do join, I'll have additional database experience.
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[02:21:32] * SpallsHurgenson avoids sidetracks... I stick to the main track, even if there is an oncoming train on it :)
[02:21:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Red Hat and Huawei Take On Cisco and Ericsson with Open Stack telecom Networking Systems - http://sylnt.us - hedging-bets
[02:35:42] <SirFinkus> well, that's shocking, CPD deployed stringrays at the protest
[02:36:02] <SirFinkus> "nobody's listening to your phone calls"
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[02:38:11] <SirFinkus> uh oh, are you belligerent yet?
[02:38:53] <Ethanol-fueled> No./
[02:39:10] <Ethanol-fueled> I may not be. I've been so good with my exercise routines that I pass out before I reach that state.
[02:39:39] <Ethanol-fueled> assignment = done. Drinking = True
[02:40:55] <chromas> "assignment = done" getting recursive ther
[02:41:46] <SirFinkus> god chromas, you have no class
[02:41:55] <Ethanol-fueled> can't wait until Web Development class this spring.
[02:42:29] <chromas> SirFinkus: assignment.done:= true ?
[02:42:50] <chromas> or = assigned
[02:43:11] <Ethanol-fueled> what horrid language is that, chromas?
[02:43:23] <chromas> pascal++
[02:43:23] <Bender> karma - pascal: 45
[02:43:31] <Ethanol-fueled> is this ( := ) the "shaft" operator?
[02:43:40] <chromas> assignment
[02:43:45] <chromas> they didn't have ascii art back then
[02:43:54] <Ethanol-fueled> I know, just messin with you. I know that operator from Maple
[02:44:30] <chromas> hadn't heard of that one
[02:45:27] <chromas> pizza++
[02:45:27] <Bender> karma - pizza: 23
[02:46:24] <juggs> pascal is a super teaching language for the very basics
[02:46:32] <chromas> " If we all gave $3, the fundraiser would be over in an hour." They said that the other day. Is nobody at all giving to wikipedia? They need math in their templates
[02:47:03] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, my C teacher told me that Pascal was what they taught in university before C. And I said that previously in here, drunk, once.
[02:47:17] <chromas> juggs: I started porting aqu4's C code to Pascal to learn C a while back
[02:48:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Hmm, interesting....maple probably also got the ( .. ) operator from Pascal
[02:48:24] <Ethanol-fueled> that's a pretty awesome operator, too.
[02:48:37] <chromas> it's for ranges in pascal
[02:48:46] <chromas> and you can use it on strings
[02:49:17] <chromas> kind of like slices in python I guess
[02:49:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, jeez. that damn colon after every conditional statement
[02:50:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl n bash use it too
[02:50:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1..3 $foo..$bar etc...
[02:51:54] <Ethanol-fueled> The whitespace indentation thing was actually one of the easiest things to get used to in Python
[02:52:48] <chromas> sssh, you'll make the tears flow
[02:53:00] <chromas> and/or the vessels pop
[02:53:13] <SirFinkus> the indentation never bothered me either
[02:54:16] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, when I was at Uni (early 90s) - Pascal was the "Intro to Programming" language. Used to teach the ideas around strong typing, declaring all vars and consts up front, loops etc. The basic building blocks of logical thinking wrt program construction.
[02:54:55] <Ethanol-fueled> What do you think of it now compared to others, juggs?
[02:55:02] <juggs> The point was not to learnt he language, but learn the way of thinking
[02:55:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> we used c but pascal was still part of the curriculum for other intro level classes
[02:55:32] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, so it's kind of like how python is being used now?
[02:56:03] <chromas> python is the bastard child of pascal and php
[02:56:03] <Ethanol-fueled> an intro-level class when I was at that level was C++, no pointers.
[02:56:34] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, Python must have got its good looks from Pascal then.
[02:56:40] <chromas> it did
[02:57:30] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, I've not extensively coded in anything for years, I'm the last person to ask about comparing one language to another. In any case that discussion always ends up with poo flinging for no reason. Much like choice of linux distro etc. It's a pointless discussion. There is no "best" in these discussions - learn the concepts, understand the task at hand and use the best fit tool in your toolbelt to get it done.
[02:58:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> or just use perl. it can do everything.
[02:58:31] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: does perl have a poo flinging unit?
[02:58:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> if not it will soon as i code a module up for it
[02:58:58] <chromas> check cpan
[02:59:19] <juggs> chromas s/cpan/bedpan/
[02:59:30] <juggs> meh what's the syntax :(
[02:59:34] <Ethanol-fueled> perl sounds a lot more like duct-tape
[02:59:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, zactly
[03:00:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, nick: s/stuff/otherstuff/
[03:00:20] <chromas> Does that mean you use it for everything except what the name implies?
[03:00:32] <juggs> meh missed a colon - should have used pascal :D
[03:00:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, pretty much, yes.
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[03:01:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, who is nick?
[03:01:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, went looking for a poo module and found a Spoon module
[03:01:34] <juggs> there is no Spoom
[03:01:43] <juggs> hmm
[03:01:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> now i want to use it just so i can unload it with "no Spoon"
[03:01:49] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: he was indicating SedBot usage
[03:02:25] <Ethanol-fueled> s/stuff/otherstuff/g
[03:02:33] <Ethanol-fueled> guess sedbot's dead.
[03:02:40] <juggs> !todo
[03:02:41] <Bender> todo for juggs: 1) update http://wiki.soylentnews.org 2) keep todo up to date!
[03:02:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, nick is also my cousin who is not in here. he's a bigger asshole than you though so nuff said about him.
[03:02:54] <juggs> !done 1
[03:02:54] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[03:02:56] <juggs> !done 1
[03:02:58] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[03:02:58] <chromas> if you put a "nick:" first then it seds that person's last message
[03:03:17] <juggs> !todo update Who's Who
[03:03:17] <Bender> todo item 1 added
[03:03:33] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: wouldn't you want to watch them 'duke it out' in ## or some place?
[03:03:42] <juggs> I'm not sure why I bother with that todo, I never check it
[03:04:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> no. wouldn't be any actual blood.
[03:04:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[03:04:09] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) get m2 working 2) argue for the death of Overrated and Underrated 3) utf8mb4 upgrade 4) RTFM
[03:04:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah
[03:04:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> !done 2
[03:04:22] <Bender> 1 item deleted
[03:04:26] <chromas> sounds like you can done 2
[03:04:34] <chromas> no need to argue
[03:04:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, so you're in favor of removing the +1, agree and -1, disagree mods?
[03:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, i put in a Disagree mod
[03:05:14] <Ethanol-fueled> why not an agree mod?
[03:05:25] <Ethanol-fueled> is that gay or something?
[03:05:31] <chromas> an AOL "me too!" mod
[03:05:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause there's plenty of them already and what chromas said
[03:05:52] <chromas> hey, how about "ethanol" and "methanol" mods?
[03:06:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[03:06:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03"Weird Al" Yankovic - It's All About The Pentiums - YouTube
[03:06:24] <Ethanol-fueled> that's a good idea because its honest.
[03:06:39] <Ethanol-fueled> It strips away the faux-civility and lets people tell it like it is.
[03:06:56] <chromas> (+1, fuck yeah!)
[03:07:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i figure insightful will get used for that
[03:07:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> generally has been
[03:08:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly put disagree in there as a joke but maybe it'll get used. who knows?
[03:09:25] <chromas> need a mod that just directly modifies the modders karma
[03:09:27] <Ethanol-fueled> That's not a joke, it's honesty.
[03:09:30] <Ethanol-fueled> And we need that.
[03:09:31] <Leebert> IRC'ing from a bunk on a train somewhere in South Carolina. I love being alive in the modern world.
[03:09:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, used to live there. pretty state.
[03:10:20] <Leebert> yep
[03:10:22] <Ethanol-fueled> If we hid everything behind phoney courtesies and euphemisms we'd be as impossible to communicate with as the Chinese.
[03:10:25] <juggs> Leebert, are you on another train quest?
[03:10:35] <Leebert> never rolled through here around christmas
[03:10:46] <Leebert> it's cool all of the little towns being decorated
[03:10:52] <Leebert> juggs: yep; on the silver star
[03:11:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Leebert, I'd be Jealous if those parts didn't have asinine liquor laws.
[03:11:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yall want a preview of the mod changes it's mostly this: all downmods changed to +0 mods, -1 Spam added as the only downmod left. Spam to be policed with a fervor.
[03:11:35] <Leebert> heh. well, on the train...
[03:11:39] <juggs> Leebert, I have no idea what that is, but I like that you're just out there doing what you want to do.
[03:11:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> abuse of spam gets you a month ban on modding the first time and six months every time after that.
[03:12:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Leebert, whereabouts in SC are you, approximately?
[03:12:09] <Leebert> Silver Star goes from NYC to Miami; I boarded in DC and am going to Orlando
[03:12:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, that's a good call.
[03:12:44] * juggs mulls evil plot to replace all moderation with two simple icons... a thumb up and a thumb down...
[03:12:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> and every editor+ sees a link beside every score that's been modded spam to instantly undo it and ban the user from modding
[03:12:58] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: make the mod labels come from a database, that way they can be randomized
[03:13:06] * TheMightyBuzzard throws poo at juggs
[03:13:08] <Leebert> Ethanol-fueled: whoopsie; just checked the gps and I'm still in Carolina th North
[03:13:10] <SpallsHurgenson> soylentreddit!
[03:13:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, they do
[03:13:23] <Leebert> Near Sanford, NC
[03:13:42] <chromas> -1, ("Disagree", "Nuh uh", "I don't think so, Tim")
[03:14:03] <juggs> Leebert, east coast ride then if my piss poor US geog knowledge hasn't failed me again
[03:14:17] <Leebert> Yup.
[03:14:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Leebert, you're still way the fuck up there.
[03:14:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> strangely, comments store their mod atomically rather than have it calculated for each new mod.
[03:14:29] <juggs> \0/ I got something right
[03:14:47] <Leebert> Ethanol-fueled: Yeah, but by this time tomorrow night I'll be winding down a day at Disney World.
[03:14:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Go into Fayetteville NC, they're a very liberal town. Tell them how much you hate war and how our soldiers are puppets.
[03:14:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, you should know the carolinas, they used to be british.
[03:15:04] <Leebert> Going to Miami on Sunday for Ravens-Dolphins
[03:15:08] <juggs> Not in my life time TheMightyBuzzard
[03:15:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> you lot can have everything north of NYC back if you want by the way. tell them i told you so when you get here to take over management.
[03:16:01] <juggs> Nah, give it to the French
[03:16:13] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: that includes NYC right?
[03:16:26] <Ethanol-fueled> *crosses fingers...please, please NYC*
[03:16:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw them. rather give it to the illegal mexicans. least they know what a workday is.
[03:16:33] <juggs> They'll bankrupt it soon enough, then we can take it back on our own terms
[03:16:46] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: It all has British names anyway up there
[03:16:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[03:16:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> like New York
[03:17:08] <Leebert> Cambridge
[03:17:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, NYC would be given to errybody angry if we took away the NYPD
[03:17:28] <SpallsHurgenson> there's a north of NYC?
[03:17:50] <SpallsHurgenson> holy hell, there is! look, albany, rochester, syracuse... have those cities ALWAYS been up there?
[03:17:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, we should. let them enjoy seeing what it's like without cops around for a while.
[03:18:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, whole states too
[03:18:11] <Leebert> SpallsHurgenson: Yeah, it's called "Canada"
[03:18:27] <SpallsHurgenson> oh c'mon, you don't expect me to buy into the whole myth of "Massachusetts"
[03:18:33] <Ethanol-fueled> That's why I hate Massachusetts.
[03:19:00] <Ethanol-fueled> It thinks it's California, but it's only our runt-of-the-litter little brother.
[03:19:18] <Leebert> Damn t-mobile and crappy EDGE
[03:19:18] <juggs> According to the way history was taught when I was in school, the USA wouldn't exist if not for the Brits. That kind of imperialistic hankering for old times still seems to pervade political classes. No wonder the rest of Europe calls us Island Monkeys.
[03:19:21] <SpallsHurgenson> Canada... that's the big place with the brits with the different climate and weird accents, right?
[03:19:26] <SpallsHurgenson> the one with the kangaroos :)
[03:20:01] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: no, that's Poland
[03:20:05] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: You can think of us as your rebellious child we didn't get along with for 10 or 20 years.
[03:20:12] <Leebert> juggs: The USA woiuldn't exist without the French, either.
[03:20:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, s'more or less true. we were mostly brits who decided we didn't want to be brits anymore.
[03:20:24] <Leebert> They helped us kick the Brit's ass
[03:20:25] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[03:20:26] <NetCraft> ^ 03Bomb New Jersey - Voltaire ((With Lyrics)) - YouTube
[03:20:27] <Konomi> \o/
[03:20:35] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, don't mess with Poland. Poland is awesome.
[03:20:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, old french not new french. they haven't won a war in over a century.
[03:21:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> SpallsHurgenson, i used to think that then it gave us coffee hating ar
[03:21:21] <Leebert> They were right about Iraq, at least. :)
[03:22:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'easy to be right about things when it's not your nuts on the line.
[03:22:11] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, WW1 ended in 1918; that's less than a century ago :)
[03:22:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> they don't get credit for that. way too much help that wasn't them.
[03:23:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> would have been exactly like wwii if everyone had waited like we did for the second.
[03:24:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> the last time they kicked anyone's asses was when they used to play all the time with the brits.
[03:24:31] <SpallsHurgenson> actually, France pretty much won WW1. They had help from the brits - and more imporatntly, the Canadians - and the US nailed the coffin on the Huns, but it was the French who really pushed in the corpse
[03:24:47] <SpallsHurgenson> Germany hasn't won in over a century
[03:25:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but they've made a pretty nasty showing
[03:25:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> well no, i say that but it's wrong. they DID conquer several countries. just couldn't hold on to em.
[03:27:42] <SpallsHurgenson> well, ultimately that's true for most invaders :)
[03:27:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> really dunno what happened to them. they used to be kinda badasses when they were fighting the brits all the time.
[03:28:32] * Leebert blames nuclear power
[03:29:32] <SpallsHurgenson> France lost 2.5 million young men in WW1. That sort of puts a damper on military expansionism :)
[03:30:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, us men types are easy to replace. fun even.
[03:30:50] <SpallsHurgenson> yeah, but then WW2 happened... and after that, pretty much all of Europe said, "Hey, you know what? Let's not do the war thing anymore" :)
[03:31:02] <Leebert> unfortunate that I wasn't around to comfort all of those poor french young ladies
[03:31:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> erm... cept for civil maybe.
[03:31:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> and cold
[03:32:59] <SpallsHurgenson> cold war was europe manipulating the US into spending its troops and dollars protecting them from stalin :):
[03:33:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, was in our best interest too. who was gonna buy our shat if everyone went socialist and had no moneys?
[03:34:26] <Leebert> what, no... that was us putting them commies in their place! 'MURICA!
[03:34:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, we basically let em put their own selves in their place
[03:35:01] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I'm not sure it worked since Europe went socialist and they had no money at the time (they were broke and in debt to the US :)
[03:35:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> halfass socialist, yeah. thankfully now all the old socialist nations are capitalist to counterbalance em
[03:36:28] <juggs> And in 10 minutes, the entire 20C history is covered in #soylent with an accuracy that would astound (or have heads in hands) every working historian
[03:36:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> brevity FTW
[03:36:57] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm... they owed us a lot of debt, bought all our shoddy merchandise, we treated their copyrights poorly, were expansionistic and spoke a strange language... ohmigod, we were China :)
[03:37:17] <juggs> History is only written by the winners AMIRITE!!!!??
[03:37:24] * juggs throws a chair
[03:37:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ewww, you said the C word
[03:37:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, struth
[03:38:47] <juggs> wow, I see where Ballmer was going with that chair throwing and leaping about thing, makes you feel better.... not so much the wall
[03:38:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, no. i spose it really gets written by textbook writers.
[03:39:28] <SpallsHurgenson> history gets written POORLY by textbook writers, who present the idea that there is a conveniently understandable narrative to our past
[03:39:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo Have all textbook writers shot and proper propaganda writers replace them
[03:39:42] <Bender> todo item 4 added
[03:39:53] <juggs> and rewritten the next semester of course. Well by rewritten I mean shuffle a couple of paragraphs.
[03:40:22] <SpallsHurgenson> preferably a narrative whose understanding can be tested in multiple-choice question format :)
[03:40:26] <Leebert> I remember when I used to have a todo file...
[03:40:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> well i guess the math book writers can stay. rest of em are fucking toast though.
[03:40:37] <Leebert> it struck me as funny that I would read it by typing "less todo"
[03:40:51] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[03:40:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Red Hat and Huawei Take On Cisco and Ericsson with Open Stack Telecom Networking Systems - http://sylnt.us - hedging-bets
[03:41:06] <SpallsHurgenson> TMB: I dunno, have you seen this new new new math?
[03:41:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah but if 2+2 still =4, i don't care how they do it
[03:41:31] <juggs> Leebert, I have your todo here.... It reads... 1. look out the window 2. be rocked to sleep 3. repeat 4. be at one
[03:41:39] <Leebert> ok, this latency is getting annoying. Gues I don't live far enouh in the future. G'night y'all
[03:41:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[03:42:12] <SpallsHurgenson> while technically 2+2 = 4, now you need to add 2 to ten to understand that is 12, then subtract 8, and 8 from 12 = 4. Or something.
[03:42:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> no weirder than how i do it in my head
[03:43:18] <juggs> do go on TMB - how does 2+2 go in your head?
[03:43:29] <SpallsHurgenson> well, of course; everyone here does "10+10" = "4"
[03:44:07] <juggs> 100 surely
[03:44:21] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I used quotes :)
[03:44:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i just use my fingers for that and count in binary. it always amuses me when i get to flip people off at 4
[03:45:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> time to put cats up
[03:45:50] <chromas> 132
[03:45:58] <SpallsHurgenson> Bender: Ahhh, what an awful dream. Ones and zeroes everywhere... and I thought I saw a two.
[03:45:58] <SpallsHurgenson> Fry: It was just a dream, Bender. There's no such thing as two.
[03:46:39] * juggs wonders what putting cats up involves... do they go on a special cat shelf? TMB moves in mysterious ways
[03:47:24] <chromas> I think he wrangles them with a regex and stores them in his beard
[03:48:18] <SpallsHurgenson> my cat learned to speak English the other day.
[03:48:39] <SpallsHurgenson> I heard her quite clearly say "Oh, what terrible calamity is it that befalls me, that such misfortune befalls me 'ere I complete my morning fare?"
[03:48:47] <juggs> perhaps their tails form convenient hangers when he puts them into suspended animation for the night and he puts them up on hooks. We'll never know because it will forever be shrouded behind a beard of mysterious
[03:49:03] <SpallsHurgenson> well, actually, all she got out was "O wut" and then she threw up... but that's what she was going to say, I'm sure of it :)
[03:51:47] <SpallsHurgenson> also, I mentioned my kitty so everybody take two shots :)
[03:52:01] <juggs> no doubt somewhere indoors having spent the last 18 hours outside... vicious bastards.. "I know, I feel a little sick, I'll go inside and throw up, that idiot human will pamper me"
[03:53:33] <juggs> I was going to make a joke about loading the revolver to take those shots SpallsHurgenson - but my front door would likely be caved in if I did.
[03:54:09] <SpallsHurgenson> beware the raging hordes of internet kitty lovers; they roam the countryside waiting for somebody somewhere to say something mean about cats
[03:55:53] <SpallsHurgenson> armed with fluffy cat toys and on a cat-nip pseudo-high, they've been known to yowl annoyingly outside cat-hater's windows and leave nasty little presents outside their door
[03:56:08] <Ethanol-fueled> No joke.
[03:56:17] <juggs> my sis is a little cat mad - think she has 5 or 6 now. I reserve judgement, don't understand it so I can't hate it.
[03:57:08] <Ethanol-fueled> Here's one of my old favorites from the underground:
[03:57:10] <Ethanol-fueled> http://2.bp.blogspot.com
[03:58:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Another:
[03:58:14] <Ethanol-fueled> http://maddogmedia.files.wordpress.com
[03:58:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> two of the cats go in the house, the third goes out in the shop building cause he feels the need to mark his territory if any other cats are in it at night.
[03:58:53] <chromas> those cats have weird noses
[03:59:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard - feral, eh?
[03:59:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, no, just an asshole.
[03:59:14] <Ethanol-fueled> or wandered outside the box too much in his youth?
[03:59:17] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAH
[03:59:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> so it's kitty siberia for him every night
[04:01:40] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, I was just speculating about some mad machinery you had, probably involves a giant tesla coil, that was involved in putting the cats up. The mundane, shove a couple in the house one in the shop.... that's just a cover story.. admit it
[04:02:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> well the two in the house get hooked up to the van der graaf generator, yeah
[04:03:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> they don't care, they just think they're getting brushed
[04:03:29] <juggs> heh who doesn't find a spiky haired cat cut
[04:03:39] <juggs> cute*
[04:03:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard is Freewheelin' Franklin:
[04:03:54] <Ethanol-fueled> http://collections.museumca.org
[04:04:33] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.freaknet.org.uk
[04:04:37] <Konomi> dear god
[04:04:39] <Konomi> http://www.digitaltrends.com
[04:04:39] <NetCraft> ^ 03Denver cops use "smell-oscopes" to sniff out dope smokers | Digital Trends
[04:04:43] <Konomi> yes great use of police time
[04:05:05] <juggs> Didn't they decriminalise it yet?
[04:05:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, hahahaha!
[04:06:12] <Konomi> god that makes me sad there are so many more important things police could be doing
[04:06:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i take it they outlawed mexican restaurants too?
[04:06:46] <juggs> wait, wut.. going after the smokers now, not the street suppliers, or the farms? That seems like a really efficient way not to tackle the problem
[04:06:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> beans, beans, good for the heart...
[04:07:04] <SpallsHurgenson> beans beans the musical fruit...
[04:07:31] <Ethanol-fueled> beans are good for you. Just not for your country.
[04:07:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Do Ho HOOOO!
[04:07:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'right, i can bring any topic around to gas passing.
[04:07:58] <Ethanol-fueled> They are filling and have fiber.
[04:08:22] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs doesn't like to hear about repressurization
[04:08:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> and they can be used to lay waste to your enemies in confined areas too
[04:08:39] <juggs> if you say so SpallsHurgenson
[04:09:09] <SpallsHurgenson> well, I think it was juggs. might've been somebody else. I get forgetful in my old age
[04:09:58] <juggs> I can't think of any context in which that may have some up
[04:10:16] <juggs> s/some/come
[04:10:16] <sedctl> jiggs, did you know there's THREE slashes in a proper s/// command?
[04:10:40] <SpallsHurgenson> I was burping after dinner. somebody didn't like it because of a fart-spammer in the #debianfork channel
[04:10:40] <JamesNZ> sedctl has attitude.
[04:10:47] <juggs> 3 typos make a right
[04:10:49] <ciri> 4
[04:10:50] <ciri> 5
[04:10:51] <ciri> 6
[04:10:53] <ciri> 7
[04:10:55] <ciri> 8
[04:10:56] <JamesNZ> Shut up ciri.
[04:10:57] <ciri> 9
[04:10:59] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:10:59] * SpallsHurgenson apologizes if that was not you :)
[04:11:16] <JamesNZ> No, I'm not in #debianfork :)
[04:11:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuckin' trolls.
[04:11:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Must be sad to be a troll.
[04:11:39] <Konomi> ciri-- # shini shini shini
[04:11:39] <Bender> karma - ciri: -31
[04:12:49] <juggs> I left #debianfork on freenode after a day... struck me as a circlejerk distilling both sides of the systemd non-argument BS
[04:13:34] <SpallsHurgenson> fine, whoever it was apparently is no longer worried about it so everybody fart and burp to their heart's content :)
[04:13:37] <JamesNZ> Fork all the things!
[04:13:40] <Konomi> I've seen nicks like freedomlover and rainbowdash in there so yeah that was pretty much a given juggs ;p
[04:14:39] <juggs> Konomi, I don't recognise those nicks, not that I'd recognise any nicks on freenode. Are they some known entities?
[04:15:05] <Konomi> nah just the nicks in themselves make it obvious ;p
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[04:17:02] <Ethanol-fueled> WUT
[04:18:02] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, do not buy into the tactics of the thought-terminators.
[04:18:20] <Konomi> thought identified ~
[04:18:21] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[04:18:21] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9891
[04:18:22] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[04:18:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9890
[04:18:23] <Konomi> targetting!
[04:18:42] <Ethanol-fueled> immidiately stamp a person who uses such techniques as a grade "A" bacon.
[04:18:47] <Ethanol-fueled> mmmmmmmmm, bacon.
[04:19:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Hold on, guys, I gott go to the store. I'm out of...uh, food I need.
[04:19:19] * SpallsHurgenson eats a teeny-tiny orange
[04:19:25] <Cyprus> one might even call it... fuel
[04:19:30] * Cyprus shades
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[04:20:41] <Konomi> he's gone
[04:20:51] <Konomi> quick lets have all the indepth discussion before he returns
[04:21:02] * SpallsHurgenson washes it down with a teeny-tiny orange juice
[04:21:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Police in Denver to Use Olfactometers for Cannabis Odour Mapping - http://sylnt.us - so-its-a-bit-legal
[04:21:25] <Konomi> what are you, lord of the tiny ;p ?
[04:21:48] <SpallsHurgenson> only when it comes to citrus
[04:22:18] <SirFinkus> so wait, where the fuck are you supposed to smoke it?
[04:22:32] <Konomi> SirFinkus: in your mind
[04:22:33] <juggs> ok - so freedomlover I'd guess is in the RMS camp, realism left to the side. rainbowdash?? No idea what to make of that
[04:22:40] <Konomi> I presume the implication was "not at all"
[04:24:12] <SpallsHurgenson> heh, if my neighbor can cook kimchi and not get arrested, then pot should have no problem :)
[04:24:56] <SirFinkus> kimchi isn't so much cooked as it is rotted
[04:25:14] <Cyprus> lol
[04:25:15] <ciri> lol damn!
[04:25:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> should smell a six month aged ribeye
[04:25:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I believe they prefer the word "fermented"
[04:25:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> some quality funk there even if all the bacteria are on the surface
[04:26:05] <Cyprus> I know the feeling, speaking as a carnivore trying to acclimate to the bay area. Omg it's like i've died and gone to hipster food hell =(
[04:26:35] <SirFinkus> but seariously
[04:26:43] <SirFinkus> red_eye++
[04:26:43] <Bender> karma - red_eye: 1
[04:26:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Cyprus, why on earth would any sane carnivore move to the bay area? isn't it illegal to eat meat there?
[04:26:59] <SirFinkus> rib_eye++ even
[04:26:59] <Bender> karma - rib_eye: 1
[04:27:13] <Cyprus> TheMightyBuzzard: A company threw sacks of cash at me
[04:27:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but you can't buy bacon with it unless you go over to oakland
[04:27:57] <Cyprus> I managed to find a few places so far
[04:28:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> hippies--
[04:28:22] <Bender> karma - hippies: -4
[04:28:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> hipsters--
[04:28:26] <Bender> karma - hipsters: -8
[04:28:26] <Cyprus> It's definitely a search though
[04:28:55] <Cyprus> I walk campus and haven't even seen half the words in the menu before
[04:29:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> meat scientist type guy i know swears you get the most bang for your time aging steaks 14 days by the way.
[04:29:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's for an entire slab of uncut steaks. don't try aging just one steak.
[04:29:53] <Cyprus> The way to get the best tasting meat is name it while it's still alive
[04:30:12] <Cyprus> Anything with a name always tastes better
[04:30:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, mine'd all end up named bob
[04:30:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i lack imagination in naming.
[04:30:53] <Cyprus> Bessie was delicious, and Fatboy did a wonderful job of converting vegtables into bacon
[04:31:03] <SpallsHurgenson> it puts the steak sauce on its skin or it gets the hose!
[04:31:13] <Cyprus> spallshurgenson++
[04:31:13] <Bender> karma - spallshurgenson: 9
[04:31:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> feelin that sleep thing creeping up pretty quick
[04:32:17] <SpallsHurgenson> quick, coffee++
[04:32:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> too late for that. gonna just surrender. sides, fishin tomorrow.
[04:33:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> sleep++
[04:33:18] <Bender> karma - sleep: 11
[04:34:45] <Konomi> turtle_neck--
[04:34:45] <Bender> karma - turtle_neck: -1
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[04:39:42] <juggs> A Fish Called Bob - not sure that would make a good film
[04:40:16] <juggs> who knows... rope John Cleese in, might work.
[04:40:18] <Konomi> planet bob ~
[04:40:55] <Ethanol-fueled> gross, youtube ads.
[04:41:07] <Konomi> ad blocker foooolll
[04:41:18] <juggs> OOh! Stick Graph! PWNIES!
[04:41:21] <juggs> http://stats.sylnt.us
[04:42:01] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:42:02] <NetCraft> ^ 03Metal Gear Solid 2 - Full JFK/JD Codec Conversation Part 1 of 2 - YouTube
[04:42:23] <juggs> A video of a video game?
[04:42:45] <juggs> I feel old again
[04:42:53] <SirFinkus> they're all the rage these days
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[04:43:20] <SpallsHurgenson> video games, yay!
[04:43:21] <juggs> Twitch.. watch someone else play a game as far as I can figure... wtf
[04:43:32] <Ethanol-fueled> I boffed a fat girl who loved that video.
[04:43:38] * SpallsHurgenson fires up a LetsPlay 'cause he's too lazy to... erm... play :)
[04:43:38] <Ethanol-fueled> She was a Jew,
[04:43:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Participating in alternative medicine.
[04:44:09] <SirFinkus> I watch BroTeam stream every once in a while
[04:44:51] <juggs> SirFinkus, explain the fascination
[04:45:12] <SirFinkus> he plays shitty games and provides hilarious commentary
[04:46:14] <juggs> oh ok, I understand comedic value
[04:46:33] * SpallsHurgenson prefers a lets play full of informative commentary
[04:46:46] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[04:46:46] <NetCraft> ^ 03Bro Team Pill: Fate of Voyage Century - YouTube
[04:46:52] <SirFinkus> bro team is very informative
[04:47:20] <juggs> I feel informed just knowing it exists :)
[04:49:45] <SpallsHurgenson> LetsPlays are good for games that have interesting stories or graphics, but you don't like the style of gameplay, or for viewing games on systems you don't own, or for previewing games you might want to play, or for helpful walkthroughs or if you're just too lazy to put in the effort or... :)
[04:49:52] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.youtube.com
[04:49:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03Metal Gear Solid 2 - Full JFK/JD Codec Conversation Part 2 of 2 - YouTube
[04:50:27] <SirFinkus> he does game reviews too https://www.youtube.com
[04:50:27] <NetCraft> ^ 03Bro Team - Tera - YouTube
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[04:58:17] * Konomi releases minions
[04:59:22] * SpallsHurgenson gets out the steak sauce again
[05:03:58] * juggs releases Komoni-clones
[05:04:26] <SirFinkus> Hydrazine looks like a BLAST to work with
[05:04:28] <SirFinkus> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[05:05:09] <SpallsHurgenson> yes, 9 out of 10 starfaring civilizations have also concluded that astronauts make the best spaceship fuel
[05:06:05] <juggs> wait did you release minions or (fillet) mignons Konomi ? We gotta chose the right dice here
[05:06:26] * juggs ducks #mentioned dice
[05:06:59] * SpallsHurgenson rolls 3d20 to determine jugg's fate
[05:07:28] <juggs> doomed anyway up, we all are
[05:08:16] * SpallsHurgenson rolls 37 - Cursed to speak like Yoda
[05:08:44] <juggs> dice loaded they are
[05:09:13] * juggs waves gnarly hand
[05:09:35] <juggs> that's better - these are not the dice you seek
[05:09:56] <SpallsHurgenson> Dice? Dice? F*ck beta! F*ck beta!
[05:10:12] <juggs> yeh something like that
[05:10:51] <juggs> I think we got over it a while back though.... but feel free to work out your emotions
[05:11:11] * SpallsHurgenson goes back to reading Slashdot
[05:12:06] <juggs> oh no - well that's the end!1"
[05:14:20] <Konomi> traitor ;_;
[05:14:54] <Konomi> ha I like how that link I put here earlier is now a story on the home page xD
[05:15:49] <juggs> now now Konomi, we must all seek our own path to the truth. That journey must differ for all no?
[05:16:09] <juggs> damn, still got curse traits
[05:16:57] * juggs invokes ultimate weapon - the duvet.
[05:17:40] * mrcoolbp rustles
[05:17:47] * SpallsHurgenson sticks with a plain ol' blanket
[05:19:20] <juggs> I'm out, be well, sleep well and don't burn the place down. /me leaves a 15 tog down duvet in SpallsHurgenson's way
[05:19:33] <mrcoolbp> later juggs
[05:19:39] <mrcoolbp> = )
[05:21:07] <SpallsHurgenson> kitty is being demanding
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[05:36:48] <JamesNZ> Preciouuuuusssssss wantsssss attentionnn.
[05:39:03] <Konomi> >.>
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[06:28:57] <Konomi> yay new webcomic found
[06:31:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Rovio Lays Off 110 People as Angry Birds Hype Fades - http://sylnt.us - from-angry-birds-to-angry-people
[06:31:13] * JamesNZ observes a `poutine` in ##programming on Freenode
[06:32:37] <Konomi> oh god
[06:34:02] <Konomi> has anyone tried to strangle him yet?
[06:34:27] <JamesNZ> Well, he's only spoken twice that I saw :P
[06:34:42] <Konomi> my question stands ;p
[06:35:03] <JamesNZ> Heh, not yet. Give it time :P
[06:36:17] <JamesNZ> Some guy asked about how to communicate securely, and he said: <poutine> put your messages encoded as personals in the classified section of a newspaper
[06:36:36] <JamesNZ> Which isn't that rude, to be fair :)
[06:36:51] <Konomi> give him time
[06:36:52] <Konomi> ;p
[06:37:00] <JamesNZ> :P
[06:39:24] <Konomi> urk sunlight my nemsis why do you shine in my eyes you don't even show me any useful data
[06:39:47] <SirFinkus> cardboard_and_duct_tape++
[06:39:47] <Bender> karma - cardboard_and_duct_tape: 1
[06:40:40] <Konomi> tin foil > carboard
[06:40:52] <SirFinkus> both are opaque
[06:41:01] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:41:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9889
[06:41:02] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:41:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9888
[06:41:51] <Konomi> you're fighting a losing battle there
[06:41:56] <Konomi> caffeine++
[06:41:56] <Bender> karma - caffeine: 58
[06:42:03] <SirFinkus> coffee--
[06:42:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9887
[06:42:12] <SirFinkus> tea++
[06:42:12] <Bender> karma - tea: 283
[06:42:26] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # To my dying breath!
[06:42:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9886
[06:42:28] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:42:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9885
[06:42:39] <JamesNZ> Alright, dishez time.
[06:59:18] <crutchy> ++coffee
[06:59:18] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 136
[07:06:16] * Konomi saves everything her hard drive array
[07:06:23] <Konomi> you know um for research
[07:07:45] <SirFinkus> I have a 400MB trannies folder
[07:08:03] <crutchy> what's the ~ before username in irc mean?
[07:08:16] <SirFinkus> owner
[07:09:57] <Konomi> means they really like wavey lines
[07:13:38] <SirFinkus> it's basically like being an op except I think you can do channel register-ey things
[07:17:03] <JamesNZ> ~define trannies
[07:17:20] <Konomi> what
[07:17:35] <Konomi> let me help with that
[07:17:43] <Konomi> https://en.wikipedia.org
[07:17:45] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Transsexualism
[07:18:00] <crutchy> at least it wasn't a dick pic
[07:18:26] <Konomi> wow this got more detailed since I last looked
[07:18:32] <JamesNZ> Oh, I had no idea.
[07:18:34] <SirFinkus> well, transcripts
[07:18:49] * JamesNZ scampers back under his rock
[07:18:51] <SirFinkus> I don't know what you guys are talking about
[07:18:59] <SirFinkus> I figured all of you had tranny folders
[07:19:11] <Konomi> kay...
[07:19:13] <Konomi> sooo
[07:19:18] <Konomi> how many of you do?
[07:19:19] <ciri> doing great here
[07:19:29] <Konomi> ciri-- # shiiiiinnniiii
[07:19:29] <Bender> karma - ciri: -32
[07:19:30] <JamesNZ> Shut up ciri.
[07:19:39] <SirFinkus> so ciri I guess
[07:19:46] <JamesNZ> XD
[07:19:50] <Konomi> for my research it would be interesting to know
[07:20:03] * JamesNZ doesn't
[07:20:44] <Konomi> don't know why I asked it'd be like asking a guy if they masturbated I'd never get a honest answer ;p
[07:21:42] <Konomi> fyi JamesNZ if you do happen to meet someone who is a transexual don't use the word tranny, they don't like it ;p
[07:22:07] <Konomi> though lgbt community is pretty fluid so it depends
[07:22:10] <JamesNZ> Konomi: I will keep that in mind :)
[07:22:19] <SirFinkus> Konomi: why bother? you already know the answer
[07:22:40] <Konomi> SirFinkus: I was going to go with 20% maybe too conservative?
[07:22:54] <SirFinkus> lolok
[07:24:19] <Konomi> it's a shame the group I used to go to faded out around here
[07:24:39] <Konomi> though besides being slightly more interesting most lgbt peeps are a bit odd
[07:24:46] <Konomi> I prefer computer meet ups
[07:25:56] <SirFinkus> I prefer staying home alone
[07:26:02] <SirFinkus> irc requires less effort
[07:26:03] <Konomi> plus there was always one annoying person there that wanted me to be more "social"
[07:26:21] <Konomi> and I kinda told them that not everyone wants to jump up and around and that I am introverted so leave me alone
[07:26:29] <Konomi> which they some how took as offensive
[07:26:39] <Konomi> extroverts they're like annoying puppy dogs
[07:26:45] <SirFinkus> sounds like they were assholes
[07:26:58] <Konomi> she was
[07:27:17] <Konomi> I don't go out for a lot of reasons
[07:27:27] <Konomi> 1. get hit on 2. I've been dragged to dance floors before and I hate dancing
[07:27:32] <Konomi> 3. they talk about boring shit
[07:27:43] <Konomi> 4. I really really hate irl attention
[07:28:15] <Konomi> 1 gets old fast
[07:28:29] <Konomi> I've had a wedding ring on at times and people still ask...
[07:28:46] <JamesNZ> Why do you wear a wedding ring?
[07:28:50] <SirFinkus> thing about irc is that if any of the above happens, you can just drift out and go back to lurking
[07:29:39] <Konomi> JamesNZ: cause of my SO
[07:29:46] <Konomi> yup!
[07:29:49] <Konomi> or block them
[07:29:53] <Konomi> erm ignore them
[07:30:10] <SirFinkus> like ciri
[07:30:12] <Konomi> I already established my homly safe irc channels awhile ago
[07:30:18] <JamesNZ> Konomi: Oh, I see. (didn't know you had a SO)
[07:30:25] <Konomi> so I am okay with removing channels from auto join if I get pissed off enough
[07:30:33] <Konomi> JamesNZ: I do she's wonderful hehe
[07:30:43] <JamesNZ> :)
[07:31:10] <Konomi> the ring is more symbolic for us because no equal rights
[07:31:30] <Konomi> and it's good for keeping most people away
[07:32:32] <Konomi> I do really really wish guys could experience what it is like to be hit on constantly
[07:32:36] <Konomi> specially if they're shy
[07:32:41] <Konomi> it's really uncomfortable
[07:33:34] <Konomi> well besides me dragging people to an lgbt bar which was sooo amusing thehe
[07:33:44] * Konomi evil grin
[07:33:59] <SirFinkus> well, that would be entertaining
[07:34:12] <Konomi> grrr
[07:34:28] <Konomi> I have closed and opened my blind 3 times the sky can't decide if it's overcast or sun shine time
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[07:34:57] * JamesNZ has been sort-of hit on once, was raaaather awkward
[07:36:01] <Konomi> yay you have experienced what most guys have not ;p
[07:36:24] <SirFinkus> I don't leave the house, so that helps
[07:36:35] <SirFinkus> I'm extremely attractive though, so I'm sure I'd get it all the time
[07:36:41] <Konomi> it helps a lot \o/
[07:40:08] * Konomi imagines reaching up into the sky and doing unpleasent things to teh sun
[07:40:56] <SirFinkus> board up the windows, totally worth it
[07:41:25] <JamesNZ> Outside is overrated.
[07:44:11] <SirFinkus> outside--
[07:44:11] <Bender> karma - outside: -1
[07:44:31] <Konomi> well I like some light just not huge rays of it
[07:44:51] <SirFinkus> they have light bulbs in australia?
[07:44:53] <Konomi> plus I have a vit d level my doctor dislikes and I'm white as a ghost
[07:45:09] <Konomi> they do but my light is also a fan and idk if I can fit a brighter wattage in it
[07:45:21] <Konomi> plus it spins and scares me a little
[07:45:31] <Konomi> and now I wish I hadn't thought about it again
[07:45:37] <SirFinkus> can't turn on just the light?
[07:45:42] <Konomi> it's dull
[07:46:09] <Konomi> and I'm already so short sighted I mise well be blind as a bat I don't think low light and a huge glowing led lcd is a good thing
[07:46:35] <SirFinkus> that ship has already sailed for me haha
[07:48:41] <Konomi> well I'm not in my later years yet so I'd like to preserve as much of my body as I can
[07:48:45] <Konomi> until I can replace it!
[07:49:01] * Konomi thinks about the possiblities
[07:49:01] <SirFinkus> like stallman
[07:49:04] <Konomi> don't need to pee or sleep!
[07:49:35] <Konomi> I'm kinda drinking iced coffee here could you not conjure an image of some one who eats their on foot fungas growth x.x
[07:50:04] <SirFinkus> and is a bird fucker, don't forget bird fucker
[07:50:06] <chromas> it's where the flavor is
[07:50:20] <SirFinkus> also regularly practices nasal sex
[07:51:30] * Konomi groans
[07:51:41] <Konomi> of all the important things he has said no one is going to remember anything but the stupid shit
[07:51:52] <Konomi> I blame him >.<
[07:53:17] <SirFinkus> and throwing fits
[07:53:19] <SirFinkus> don't forget that
[07:53:52] <Konomi> I'd throw a fit if my laptop got stolen too
[07:54:10] <SirFinkus> I was referring to the other fits he's thrown
[07:54:40] <SirFinkus> once he was giving a talk, asked whether they wanted it in English or Spanish, and someone asked him to switch a few minutes in
[07:55:31] <Konomi> he's getting old I guess ;p
[07:55:31] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[07:55:31] <NetCraft> ^ 03Richard Stallman Freaks Out and Has a Meltdown - YouTube
[07:55:46] <Konomi> glad I don't do public speaking
[07:57:12] <Popeidol> http://hackaday.com
[07:57:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03SpoofedMe Attack Steals Accounts by Exploiting Social Login Mechanisms | Hackaday
[07:57:19] <Popeidol> what a delightful example they used
[07:57:44] <SirFinkus> good part starts 2 minutes in
[07:58:15] <Konomi> SirFinkus: I won't watch my mum tended to yell and I avoid anything like that cause of my history ;p
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[07:59:54] <Konomi> those sign in with services always made me go "yeah I don't trust that"
[08:01:18] <Konomi> this is embarassing
[08:01:22] <Konomi> do they not think of this shit?
[08:02:00] <Popeidol> that sounds like a convenience feature
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[08:02:40] <Popeidol> where they've said 'it would be too inconvenient to pop up a box asking if they want to link linkedin to their account and requesting a password, lets just make it happen silently in the background'
[08:02:41] <ciri> hmmm thats a good question Popeidol
[08:02:43] <SirFinkus> holy shit
[08:02:46] * SirFinkus headdesks
[08:03:11] * crutchy is stinking out the house with 2 minute noodles with some rice chucked in, herbs, chilli flakes, curry powder, soy sauce, pepper steak seasoning
[08:03:29] <crutchy> yummmm
[08:03:30] <Konomi> I do that all the time
[08:03:43] <SirFinkus> stink up the house, or make rice?
[08:03:44] <crutchy> missus hates it, but its awesome
[08:03:51] <Popeidol> migoreng++
[08:03:51] <Bender> karma - migoreng: 1
[08:04:45] <JamesNZ> crutchy: Mmmm, sounds delicious.
[08:05:07] * Konomi gives up clothes the blinds and goes back to the 20 watt light globe
[08:05:11] <Konomi> closes*
[08:06:22] <crutchy> clothes are overrated
[08:06:33] * Konomi nods
[08:06:44] <Konomi> I never sleep with clothes on
[08:07:05] <crutchy> fair enough
[08:07:16] <JamesNZ> I feel weird sleeping without clothes (especially on cold nights).
[08:07:21] <crutchy> its prolly always stinking fucking hot up your way anyway
[08:07:28] <Konomi> that's what the blankets are for?
[08:07:45] <JamesNZ> Blankets are nowhere near enough in winter.
[08:08:12] <Konomi> I have 3
[08:08:22] <Konomi> plus you live in hobit land it's probably colder
[08:08:25] * Konomi runs for it
[08:08:38] <JamesNZ> :P
[08:09:16] <crutchy> its just the other island state of australia :D
[08:09:52] <Konomi> nevermind I'll just watch you beat up crutchy instead
[08:09:59] * crutchy notes that we have killer bowlers on our side now
[08:10:01] * JamesNZ wrecks crutchy
[08:10:12] <JamesNZ> We have the All Blacks :P
[08:11:14] <Konomi> what are those?
[08:11:19] <crutchy> we have a police force :p
[08:11:23] <chromas> JamesNZ: any riots?
[08:11:55] <Konomi> if it's sports or famous people related you're going to have to explain it to me
[08:12:02] <Konomi> and be prepared when I forget it next week
[08:12:39] * crutchy may have shucked in a little too much rice
[08:12:43] <crutchy> *chucked
[08:13:01] <chromas> no such thing, crutchy
[08:13:10] <chromas> just add more of everything else
[08:13:33] <Konomi> cooking with chromas
[08:13:55] <chromas> I do make awesome pies and cookies
[08:14:18] <chromas> but not so good at soylent
[08:14:38] * Konomi gets a knife
[08:14:42] <Konomi> I'll give you some pointers ~
[08:15:15] <crutchy> haha "pointers"
[08:15:39] <crutchy> mmm smells good
[08:17:09] <Konomi> I hope that laugh was dripping sarcasm it was supposed to be a crude unfunny joke
[08:17:39] <chromas> that's not a knoife
[08:17:39] <chromas> ^ crude, unfunny joke
[08:18:36] * crutchy likes croc dundee
[08:18:58] * chromas dereferences Konomi's soylent pointers
[08:19:15] <Konomi> chromas: yep A+ that definitly made me gag
[08:19:17] <Konomi> nograb
[08:19:27] <SirFinkus> damn
[08:19:32] <Konomi> weary of you all
[08:19:38] <SirFinkus> my fingers weren't fast enough
[08:19:44] <SirFinkus> leave?
[08:19:53] <chromas> weary or wary?
[08:20:05] <crutchy> woohoo nasa manages to achieve what it did in 1960's
[08:20:09] <Konomi> which ever one is right
[08:20:18] <Konomi> I'm too busy engrossing myself in my web comic to care about grammar
[08:20:22] <chromas> SirFinkus: no, she said she's never leaving no matter how hard we try
[08:22:08] <crutchy> konomi is in love with ciri
[08:22:31] * Konomi gives crutchy the dagger stare
[08:22:45] <crutchy> i dont blame you. ciri is hot
[08:23:11] <chromas> *crutchy's wife also gives crutchy the dagger stare*
[08:23:58] <crutchy> oh shit. kiwis beat us in dubai :/
[08:24:20] <SirFinkus> you're just making words up now
[08:26:28] <JamesNZ> Konomi: The All Blacks are the worlds best rugby team.
[08:26:55] <JamesNZ> chromas: Riots? Nope, haven't had any of those for a while (at least I don't think so, I don't watch the news).
[08:27:24] <Konomi> kay ball kickers got you
[08:28:08] <JamesNZ> Yep :) Kiwis in general are ridiculously into rugby. 'tis a mystery to me...
[08:28:17] <crutchy> they like balls
[08:28:31] <JamesNZ> :P
[08:29:26] <crutchy> we should just make a new country called Austzealand
[08:29:55] <chromas> we did, it's called Australia
[08:30:00] <crutchy> with the national capital on lord howe island
[08:30:11] <JamesNZ> Where's Lord Howe?
[08:30:23] <crutchy> somewhere between our islands
[08:30:34] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[08:30:54] <crutchy> nice place. good for scuba
[08:30:56] * JamesNZ randomly drops https://www.google-melange.com on y'all
[08:30:58] <NetCraft> ^ 03Google Code-in 2014 - Home page
[08:31:12] <JamesNZ> Hmm, I should really learn to swim.
[08:31:31] <chromas> is that the winter edition of Summer of Code?
[08:31:51] <JamesNZ> Nah, it's the kids edition.
[08:31:53] <crutchy> that's hemispherist
[08:31:56] <chromas> for those parts of the year when going outside sucks more than usual
[08:33:01] <chromas> the best part of that site is the mouseover effect on the Repeat button
[08:33:28] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[08:33:29] <chromas> oh wait, the numbered list too.
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[08:45:52] <SirFinkus> I hear ciri is number 1 at making lists
[08:46:37] <chromas> who's number 3?
[08:46:53] <SirFinkus> I just know 1
[08:48:25] <chromas> ciri: [0] juggler [1] ciri [7] tama [5] Bender
[08:53:18] <Popeidol> if anybody has any modpoints: http://soylentnews.org
[08:53:18] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[08:53:34] <Popeidol> I have no idea what to moderate it but I think it deserves something
[08:55:27] <chromas> (+1, natural accuring (sic))
[08:58:46] <crutchy> putting a telescope in a deep hole seems a bit expensive what something you cant move
[08:59:19] <Konomi> deep hole
[08:59:20] <Konomi> okay then
[09:00:43] <Popeidol> I like how he basically wrote a movie plot there
[09:00:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite - http://sylnt.us - free-basement-with-pizza
[09:01:03] <Popeidol> you have to build the telescope in the mine all the materials were created in
[09:01:06] <SirFinkus> +1 insightful
[09:01:26] <Popeidol> and every step of the way has to take place in perfect darkness or they'll be rendered useless
[09:01:28] <Konomi> +1 coffee-pls
[09:01:37] <Popeidol> and then there's a murder
[09:01:45] <Konomi> they could just build it in north korea
[09:01:50] <Konomi> I hear they have trouble with lights
[09:01:52] <Konomi> and fans
[09:02:01] <Popeidol> fandeath++
[09:02:01] <Bender> karma - fandeath: 1
[09:02:08] <crutchy> they dont have fans there?
[09:02:32] <chromas> crutchy: fans murder them in their sleep
[09:02:51] <Popeidol> crutchy: http://en.wikipedia.org
[09:02:52] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Fan death
[09:04:43] <crutchy> ~define fan death
[09:05:03] <crutchy> 404 bot not found
[09:07:10] <Konomi> character at school: "30 seconds down... 8 hours to go"
[09:07:16] <Konomi> it's like this comic can read my mind
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[09:08:35] <crutchy> what comic you readin Konomi?
[09:08:56] <Konomi> secret I'm not sharing this one ;p
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[09:09:34] <crutchy> aww :(
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[09:10:09] * crutchy goes looking for hagar the horrible
[09:10:17] <Konomi> what is that?
[09:11:28] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[09:11:29] <NetCraft> ^ 03Hagar The Horrible - YouTube
[09:12:20] <Popeidol> secret comics?
[09:12:36] <Popeidol> must be that one by the oglaf woman
[09:12:46] <Konomi> oh god I am more classy than that ;p[
[09:13:03] <Konomi> wow this is old
[09:14:02] <Konomi> okay so cartoon joke viking noted
[09:26:47] <chromas> poutine-- speaks
[09:26:47] <Bender> karma - poutine: -369
[09:26:53] <chromas> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:26:54] <NetCraft> ^ 03Ubuntu Pastebin
[09:27:05] <chromas> his trollcode
[09:28:15] <Konomi> ...
[09:28:24] <Konomi> ......
[09:28:27] <crutchy> wtf. and he picks on my code
[09:28:42] <Konomi> he picked on your code cause you made a mistake
[09:28:45] <Konomi> it's what trolls do
[09:29:02] <Konomi> also your code wasn't strictly a mistake since it did what it was supposed to do according to the irc spec
[09:29:14] <Konomi> the fact you listened to him and took it to heart is more worry some ;p
[09:29:57] * crutchy is interested and would like to subscribe to your newsletter :p
[09:29:58] <chromas> I think crutchy's poutine variable was uninitialized at the time
[09:30:24] <crutchy> what did i do that was according to spec?
[09:30:40] <Konomi> join ,0
[09:30:47] <Konomi> wasn't that your big "bug" he found?
[09:30:53] <crutchy> my bot makes a mockery of the spec
[09:30:56] <crutchy> oh yeah that
[09:31:13] <crutchy> meh that wasn't much. i fixed it so he wouldn't try it again
[09:31:24] <Konomi> to be fair I'd never heard of it either
[09:31:30] <Konomi> if that makes you feel better ;p
[09:32:00] <crutchy> what i was really hoping for was for him to put up about being able to run shell commands
[09:32:15] <crutchy> he got me all wet about that one :d
[09:33:40] <crutchy> ive been trying to find vulnerabilities. the only one i found so far was in the ~title script, but i've got big warnings all over that now
[09:33:56] <Konomi> just parse eeverything right and you'll be fine
[09:34:30] <chromas> oh yeah, he said he could shell then he took a nap or something
[09:34:43] <chromas> poutine++ # for getting crutchy wet
[09:34:43] <Bender> karma - poutine: -368
[09:35:22] <chromas> coffee-- will get there before poutine++ ever does
[09:35:22] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9884
[09:36:02] <crutchy> Konomi, you should bring fluffycatbot in here
[09:36:29] * chromas sees Konomi in #debianfork
[09:36:41] <crutchy> bit of devuan gihub activity today
[09:36:53] <chromas> it's slightly more serious in #devuan, which is their shiny new distro
[09:37:07] <chromas> the stupid is less in there
[09:37:11] <crutchy> though all of it appears to be that nextime guy
[09:37:24] <crutchy> they seem to have maybe 2 or 3 dev guys
[09:37:39] <chromas> that's one or two more than uselessd :(
[09:38:10] <crutchy> yeah i haven't seen anything come up from uselessd in the spy channel :/
[09:39:03] <crutchy> maybe he's doing a tmb and committing a heap of changes privately before flooding with changes all in one hit
[09:39:23] <Konomi> crutchy: only supports one network etc atm
[09:39:36] <chromas> Konomi: multiple instances :)
[09:39:51] <chromas> it looks like he's hoping for the next release in a week or two
[09:39:53] <crutchy> i was thinking about bringing exec to freenode but its only single connection too
[09:40:05] <crutchy> plus freenode is scary
[09:40:40] <crutchy> coagen was sniffing #soylentnews
[09:40:43] <chromas> crutchy: run multiple instances and control them with exec
[09:41:00] <chromas> like you did with SedBot
[09:41:13] <chromas> a few people've popped into #uselessd too
[09:41:29] <chromas> but it's not even the right network :) just like us
[09:41:41] <crutchy> i'm gunna try to get exec as a service in my little ircd project
[09:42:10] <crutchy> still working on join command atm
[09:42:18] <crutchy> slow going
[09:42:43] <chromas> uselessd's systemctl is a bash script now I guess
[09:43:16] <chromas> with a few thousand fewer lines than systemd's
[09:43:53] <chromas> crutchy: when poutine comes in next, time, you should link him his own paste and tell him you made it :D
[09:44:36] <crutchy> haha. nah he might pop a shell command in may ass
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[09:45:25] <crutchy> oh Regurgitator is here
[09:45:36] <crutchy> Regurgitator: help
[09:45:46] <crutchy> Regurgitator: list
[09:45:55] <crutchy> Regurgitator: buttplug
[09:46:44] <chromas> there's a feature, crutchy
[09:46:53] <chromas> exec: command
[09:47:22] <crutchy> what would it do?
[09:47:42] <chromas> respond to its name besides responding to ~
[09:47:43] <crutchy> you mean like any command?
[09:47:46] <crutchy> ah
[09:48:03] <chromas> aqu4: tell crutchy poutine needs a-trollin'
[09:48:04] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[09:48:18] <crutchy> so instead of ~wiki could do exec: wiki
[09:48:54] <chromas> Not sure if anyone uses that here, but it can be handy when someone forgets the right prefix :)
[09:49:06] <chromas> Bender: grab poutine
[09:49:06] <Bender> Added quote 288
[09:49:13] <chromas> Bender: quote -1
[09:49:13] <Bender> Quote -1 - <poutine> dumbest insults I've ever heard in my life
[09:49:19] <crutchy> lol
[09:49:19] <ciri> lol damn!
[09:49:39] <crutchy> he sure is a happy chappy
[09:52:06] <chromas> need Neofox too
[09:52:17] <chromas> Bender's milkshake brings all the bots to the yard…
[09:52:22] <chromas> ~define milkshake
[09:56:44] <crutchy> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:56:44] <NetCraft> ^ 03Ubuntu Pastebin
[09:59:14] <crutchy> apparently exec not a fan of bender's milkshake
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[10:12:46] <chromas> http://thedoomthatcametopuppet.tumblr.com
[10:12:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Doom that Came to Puppet
[10:16:29] <Konomi> gotta troll all the things
[10:17:09] <Konomi> yay only one home
[10:17:16] <Konomi> time to dance around like an idiot
[10:18:03] <chromas> plus you can belch now
[10:20:07] <Konomi> urk why must this person go between gif and png for their comics ;_;
[10:21:35] <crutchy> !grab konomi -1
[10:21:35] <Bender> I don't think that's a nick....
[10:22:02] <chromas> ~grab Konomi -1
[10:22:28] <Konomi> ~stopgrabbingme
[10:22:30] <crutchy> i would have to make it ~grope
[10:22:34] <Konomi> >.<
[10:35:58] <crutchy> ++coffee
[10:35:59] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 137
[10:36:22] <crutchy> ++coffee
[10:36:22] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 138
[10:51:30] <Konomi> caffiene++
[10:51:30] <Bender> karma - caffiene: 1
[10:51:35] <Konomi> trailingplusplus++
[10:51:35] <Bender> karma - trailingplusplus: 1
[10:51:36] <Konomi> ;p
[10:53:18] <chromas> shouldn't coffee++ show you the value before incrementing?
[11:04:38] <Konomi> http://1041uuu.tumblr.com
[11:04:38] <NetCraft> ^ 031041uuu™
[11:06:44] * Konomi hums
[11:07:08] <Konomi> crutchy: I grew up on freenode and I turned out okay!
[11:07:12] * Konomi twitches and foams
[11:19:22] * Konomi np: Trickster Online - Give You Everything (English) - Soundtrack - 2011.mp3 :: 5.0M :: DeaDBeef 0.6.2
[11:39:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:39:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9885
[11:44:15] <ar> moin
[11:44:45] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: there's one thing that needs to be done. the cheated-in +9000 of karma in coffee has to go away
[11:45:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, might as well. still plenty for jamesnz to troll down
[11:46:10] <chromas> ar: you just need to work a little harder :)
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[11:47:46] <ar> https://www.youtube.com
[11:47:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03Synesthesia - YouTube
[11:48:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, i only coffee++ when i get a cup or in agreement lately
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[11:50:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> !karma coffee
[11:50:19] <Bender> karma of coffee is 885
[11:50:30] <chromas> cheating++
[11:50:30] <Bender> karma - cheating: 3
[11:50:33] <chromas> decheating--
[11:50:33] <Bender> karma - decheating: -1
[11:50:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheating++
[11:50:35] <Bender> karma - cheating: 4
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[11:52:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[11:52:10] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK, USA - currently 46°F / 8°C, overcast, wind N at 6 mph, humidity 100% - Saturday partly cloudy (39°F-54°F / 4°C-12°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (34°F-55°F / 1°C-13°C), Monday partly cloudy (36°F-59°F / 2°C-15°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (37°F-59°F / 3°C-15°C) - source: Google
[11:52:48] <chromas> ++cheating
[11:52:48] <NetCraft> Karma - cheating: 1000000000
[11:54:10] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[11:58:09] <ar> coffee--
[11:58:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 884
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[12:01:56] <ar> huh: Oracle DB is not supported on Oracle Unbreakable Linux and on RHEL7, because of systemd
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[12:03:14] <chromas> aha! systemd is saving us from Oracle!
[12:04:11] <ar> https://bugs.debian.org
[12:04:15] <NetCraft> ^ 03#758902 - systemd: Please make ^C interrupt systemd-fsck - Debian Bug report logs
[12:04:21] <ar> https://lists.debian.org
[12:04:22] <NetCraft> ^ 03Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?
[12:04:28] <ar> https://lists.debian.org
[12:04:30] <NetCraft> ^ 03Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?
[12:04:52] <ar> https://lists.debian.org
[12:04:53] <NetCraft> ^ 03Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?
[12:04:55] <chromas> Yeah I ran into a thing the other day when I forgot to reconnect a disk; had to wait 1.5 minutes for it to quit waiting with no way to interrupt (besides power switch)
[12:05:30] <ar> systemd loonatics are getting more ridiculous every day
[12:06:08] <chromas> Devuan will save us all
[12:06:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> slackware will save us all
[12:08:29] <chromas> uselessd and those other couple projects breaking systemd apart so you can use what you want and skip the rest
[12:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, if you took dpkg and the rest of the apt management and slapped it on slackware you'd have a pretty decent server distro
[12:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> not that slapt-get sucks that hard
[12:10:55] <chromas> they could name it a portmanteau like aptware or
[12:12:01] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: you can pop another init from the aur in
[12:12:12] <chromas> there's systemd-dummy and stuff
[12:12:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, feh
[12:12:26] <ar> https://www.youtube.com - Dave never fails
[12:12:26] <NetCraft> ^ 03Sydney Mud Run 2014 - YouTube
[12:12:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not masochist enough to rip the init out of a working system.
[12:13:03] <chromas> you could be a teste for epoch
[12:13:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm busy testing slash and creating n testing an api for it already. s'enough.
[12:14:50] <Konomi> "i'm not a masochist"
[12:14:54] <Konomi> but you work on slashcode ~
[12:15:01] <chromas> yaha
[12:15:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but i know my way around it mostly now.
[12:15:24] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: make slash into an init
[12:15:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> taking on the unicode rewrite... now that may have been a bit insane.
[12:16:37] <chromas> the aur has several nosystemd packages. I wonder if the devuan guys know about those
[12:18:18] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++ # for being insane enough to give use unicode
[12:18:19] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 123
[12:18:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ++đź’©
[12:18:37] <NetCraft> Karma - đź’©: 2
[12:19:41] <chromas> =who up đź’©
[12:19:41] <NetCraft> đź’©: chromas, TheMightyBuzzard
[12:19:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> need to karma lock myself now. 123 appeals to my ocd
[12:19:54] <chromas> What about 1234?
[12:20:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> patience sucks
[12:20:08] <chromas> or 321 contact
[12:20:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, i forgot about that
[12:20:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[12:20:48] <NetCraft> ^ 033-2-1 Contact Opening Theme/Intro 1983-1986 - YouTube
[12:21:57] <chromas> now you also have to watch Square One tv and Owl tv. Probably too new
[12:22:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, too new
[12:22:28] <chromas> 1980--
[12:22:28] <Bender> karma - 1980: -1
[12:22:33] <chromas> 1980s--
[12:22:33] <Bender> karma - 1980s: 3
[12:22:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> any kids stuff after the early 80s i missed entirely
[12:22:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1980s++ #Family Ties
[12:22:59] <Bender> karma - 1980s: 4
[12:24:14] <chromas> That show was good as long except for the serious moments which were pretty gay
[12:25:24] <chromas> editing_error--
[12:25:25] <Bender> karma - editing_error: -1
[12:29:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i readily admit that Alex P Keaton may have influenced my political beliefs at an early age
[12:29:59] <chromas> Did you want to become a banker when you grew up?
[12:31:32] <chromas> plus now Alex P Keaton went insane with HOSTS files :)
[12:31:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard
[12:33:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's a crying shame the two are now conflated really
[12:33:25] <Konomi> http://31.media.tumblr.com
[12:33:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, there we go. juggs's announcement
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[12:33:55] <chromas> Konomi: it seems odd to not have dialog bubbles pop up
[12:34:08] * chromas tries pressing A
[12:34:17] <Konomi> ;p
[12:34:20] <Konomi> http://38.media.tumblr.com
[12:34:27] <Konomi> fun gifs
[12:35:25] <chromas> so that's what happened in the secret channel the other day
[12:37:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i was like hey, you should call matt_, mrcoolbp. and he was all like hey, i'll email him. then he showed up in channel and we got to talking and it was the fastest board non-meeting evar.
[12:38:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nc retains his position on the board, just needs some time to get stuff n things n life sorted so juggs took over the whip cracking position.
[12:38:59] <chromas> juggs++ # 'cause he holds all the powah now so I gotta suck up
[12:38:59] <Bender> karma - juggs: 44
[12:39:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> interim-like
[12:39:13] <Konomi> respect the authorita
[12:39:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> respect the bewbs-derived nick as well
[12:39:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> bewbs++
[12:39:42] <Bender> karma - bewbs: 31
[12:39:58] <Konomi> I never actually made that link x.x
[12:40:10] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:40:13] <chromas> really? we've brought it up enough times :)
[12:40:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> you obviously don't think like a 13yo guy then
[12:40:37] <chromas> double g-cups
[12:40:45] * TheMightyBuzzard spills the secret
[12:41:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> guys' senses of humor may add layers of maturity over the years but we never lose the old stuff like finding fart or bewb jokes funny
[12:41:58] <chromas> that's why nursing homes are stinky
[12:42:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'truth
[12:42:05] <chromas> you know the old guys are giggling
[12:42:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey nurse, i think i jammed my finger, give it a pull, will you?
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[12:42:59] <Konomi> ewww ;p
[12:44:45] <blackest_k> Anyone know anything about google chrome extensions injecting code into webpages i just found one that tried to get me to download malware
[12:44:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think chicks are the same way really, they just don't like admitting it so they feign embarassment.
[12:45:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> blackest_k, some extensions are little more than malware themselves, yeah. being in the official repository does not make them safe.
[12:46:19] <chromas> for example: http://thehackernews.com
[12:46:19] <NetCraft> ^ 03Malware Can Bypass Chrome Extension Security Feature Easily
[12:46:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> stick to the well-used ones unless you're competent to audit the source yourself
[12:47:00] <blackest_k> TheMightyBuzzard: true but most people think they are safe and its cross platform too.
[12:47:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> most people think stuff in the apple store is safe too. their mistake.
[12:48:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't suck to report the malwareness though
[12:48:25] <chromas> submit to soylent :)
[12:48:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> and/or do up a story submission about it
[12:49:00] <blackest_k> I only found it because i was playing with my own pages on osx when a tab opened said i wasn't running the latest chrome and tried to get me to dl "setup.exe"
[12:50:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i won't scoff at good luck. plays a part in most debugging.
[12:51:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, someone drank my coffee again
[12:51:18] <blackest_k> when i looked at my page source in chrome it was identical to my source but when i downloaded webpage complete in chrome i got app.js and 3 scripts added to the header this was on linux and osx but firefox was clean
[12:51:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> know what extension was doing it?
[12:53:15] <blackest_k> turned out one injection was privacy badger (to remove facebook like buttons) but the other 2 i don't know for sure as i removed all extensions after that.
[12:54:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> bummer
[12:55:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> could have had detailed reporting chops
[12:55:27] <blackest_k> i have the header and the app.js and i think it'd be pretty easy to reinstall the extension
[12:55:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. one at a time if you remember what they all were
[12:56:01] <blackest_k> they are all out of the chrome extension store.
[12:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, no real thorough testing is done.
[12:56:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> apple has the same problem to a lesser extent with the app store
[12:57:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> and FF has plenty that are just out and out malware themselves
[12:58:28] <blackest_k> actually my osx install probably still has them , my windows installs haven't been booted in a month so will have the same extensions
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[13:00:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go then. can prolly just download them, open them with an archive manager, and find out which one has the offending code in its files too.
[13:00:01] <blackest_k> thanks to google syncing chrome anytime i log in pretty much every computer i have logged into over the last couple of months will probably have them.
[13:00:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, Bytram
[13:00:37] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[13:00:45] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:00:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 885
[13:00:45] <chromas> sync it to a vm then diff the hdd image
[13:00:50] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: g'morning!
[13:01:23] <Bytram> ~weather boston
[13:01:24] <exec> Weather for Boston, MA, USA - currently 45°F / 7°C, overcast, humidity 83% - Saturday rain (36°F-50°F / 2°C-10°C), Sunday partly cloudy (25°F-39°F / -4°C-4°C), Monday chance of snow (39°F-37°F / 4°C-3°C), Tuesday chance of rain (37°F-50°F / 3°C-10°C) - source: Google
[13:01:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like mine with less clouds
[13:01:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[13:01:39] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK, USA - currently 46°F / 8°C, overcast, wind N at 10 mph, humidity 100% - Saturday partly cloudy (39°F-54°F / 4°C-12°C), Sunday mostly cloudy (34°F-55°F / 1°C-13°C), Monday partly cloudy (36°F-59°F / 2°C-15°C), Tuesday partly cloudy (37°F-59°F / 3°C-15°C) - source: Google
[13:02:02] <Bytram> hmmm, do you have something like this? http://sirocco.accuweather.com
[13:02:03] <blackest_k> heres a bit of header <script type="text/javascript" src="./End > Credits-b_files/app.js"></script><script type="text/javascript" > src="http://www.youradexchange.com/ad/display.php?r=32796"></script></head>
[13:02:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://radar.weather.gov
[13:02:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03NWS - National Mosaic Enhanced Radar Image: Full Resolution Loop
[13:04:07] <Bytram> hmmm, I see navigation stuff, but no radar loop?
[13:04:11] * Bytram checks settings
[13:04:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird
[13:04:44] * Bytram temorarily allows radar.weather.gov
[13:05:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> don axe me, i got js turned off for it
[13:05:16] <Bytram> Huh? that's a HUGE weather loop for the entire USA?
[13:05:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[13:06:00] * Bytram watches his soda straw internet connection go up in flames
[13:06:13] <Bytram> s/straw/straw-sized/
[13:06:13] <sedctl> <Bytram> watches his soda straw-sized intertubes connection go up in flames
[13:06:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> we got no rain here but plenty of clouds n still 100% humidity from all the fog n shat earlier in the week.
[13:06:33] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:07:28] <Bytram> so, umm, where on the map *are* you?
[13:08:09] <blackest_k> Anyways i did a basic submission to the queue. i'll have a look later see if i can narrow down the extensions which bit me.
[13:08:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, south-central oklahoma
[13:08:39] <Bytram> k
[13:09:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://radar.weather.gov bout two counties straight north of Ardmore
[13:09:27] <NetCraft> ^ 03NWS radar image loop of Base Reflectivity from Oklahoma City, OK (Norman)
[13:09:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> well county n a half
[13:09:46] <Bytram> got it. thanks!
[13:10:14] <Bytram> anyway, stopped by cause I saw this story: http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:15] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC 04(2 comments)
[13:10:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. good ole juggs
[13:11:45] <Bytram> I've checcked through the Wiki and #staff logs, but I cannot find any discussion about it or board meeting minutes.
[13:12:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> was a spontaneous board non-meeting in The Channel
[13:13:13] <Leebert> One does not keep meeting minutes for a coup d'etat! :D
[13:13:20] <Bytram> k. so the full board was in attendence (nc, matt, mrcoolbp) were in attendance and voted to approve?
[13:13:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> had everyone there so we just kinda did stuff
[13:13:39] <Bytram> kinda thought it was like that.
[13:13:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it's up on the wiki somewheres
[13:13:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> not minutes but vote results
[13:14:25] <Bytram> in the past we have always been open about board meetings and activities including having people participate/monitor all such activities.
[13:15:05] <Bytram> I saw the results; I have no doubts that this is as was described, but given the nature of the decision, more openness would be appreciated.
[13:15:22] <Bytram> I wanted to check in here afore I went further to find out what happened.
[13:15:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[13:15:39] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: SoylentNews PBC Board of Directors
[13:16:08] <Bytram> for that matter, I cannot seem to locate the board meeting minutes for October 4 nor for December 3.
[13:16:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> on nothin really. nc is still walkabout and plans to be for a while yet but we need a whip cracker handy so we voted us one in for the time being
[13:16:21] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: yep, first place I looked
[13:16:37] <Bytram> as I guessed.
[13:16:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> were no minutes for dec 3 on account of it being held in The Channel
[13:17:11] <Bytram> pm
[13:17:54] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[13:17:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure
[13:18:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> board's the same only the guy driving the slaves changed
[13:18:45] <Bytram> oh? Oh! CEO is not a board position?
[13:18:52] <Bytram> doh!
[13:18:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, it's an executive position
[13:19:06] <Bytram> nod nod. nvm.
[13:19:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> just so happened NC held both
[13:19:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> like treasurer and mrcoolbp
[13:19:52] <Bytram> got it; so the board is the same, but NC handed over the CEO role to J but retained his other position?
[13:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> roger dodger
[13:20:19] <Bytram> okay, I feel better about that.
[13:20:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> and he's on hiatus from other staff duties.
[13:20:43] * Bytram spent his summer vacation reviewing all the board docs, you'd think he could remember *some* of what we read! =)
[13:20:52] <Bytram> s/we/he/
[13:20:52] <sedctl> <Bytram> spent his summer vacation reviewing all the board docs, you'd think he could remember *some* of what he read! =)
[13:21:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i'd like to see him back soon but life is life and ya gotta do what ya gotta do
[13:22:07] <Konomi> we have a ceo?
[13:22:09] <Konomi> gross
[13:22:28] <Bytram> most certainly! I had the distinct pleasure of meeting him (twice!) -- there's a big hole atm which will be hard to fill
[13:22:35] <Konomi> when do I have to go to the cubical ;_; ?
[13:22:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, when you join the dev team
[13:22:58] <Konomi> few
[13:23:03] <Bytram> Konomi: it's an upgrade... we use spheres now... no corners to get hurt on.
[13:23:21] * Konomi gets thoughts of running around in a huge hamster ball
[13:23:22] <Konomi> theheh
[13:23:28] <Bytram> Konomi: LOL!
[13:23:32] <chromas> everybody take out a circle of paper
[13:23:43] <Konomi> wait juggs is the ceo
[13:23:56] <Bytram> 'course those would be uplifted hamsters, right?
[13:24:11] * Bytram prepares a syringe with neural tissue
[13:24:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> my cubicle is this office-type room in my shop building that i built. it comes with a couch for an office chair.
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[13:24:36] <chromas> with wheels? does it pivot?
[13:24:52] <chromas> You need to be able to slide across the room and do a hand gesture like Alex P KEaton
[13:25:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but if i pivot 90 degrees i'm in proper nap position
[13:25:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, the one where he was on amphetamines like me.
[13:25:48] <Bytram> mine is along a wall in my living room with a full-size worksurface under which I created a shelf to store puters and UPSs and upon which I have another shelf on which reside monitor and printers
[13:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> erk, sounds too much like where i used to build/repair computers for a living.
[13:26:20] <Bytram> coffee++ # now that you mentioned it.
[13:26:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 886
[13:26:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya
[13:26:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i forgot a cup
[13:26:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:26:28] <Bender> karma - coffee: 887
[13:26:50] <Bytram> where does the coffee++ go? I only upvote and the number seems to go down?
[13:26:50] <ciri> hmmm thats a good question Bytram
[13:26:54] <Bytram> !whodown coffee
[13:26:54] <Bender> downers of coffee are: ar: -607, JamesNZ: -492, SpallsHurgenson: -38, swiss: -37, geotti: -14, TheMightyBuzzard: -12, TheMightyTest: -11, Anti-Coffeeman: -8, crutchy: -7, SirFinkus: -3, aqu4: -3, Subsentient: -3, chromas: -2, NCommander: -2, prospectacle: -2, chimp: -1, AndyTheAbsurd: -1, Dickcheese-Smegma: -1, juggs: -1, unixpickle: -1, DrMag: -1, ar_: -1, Azrael: -1
[13:27:00] <Bytram> lol!
[13:27:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, to jamesnz mostly
[13:27:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> lately anyway
[13:27:11] <Konomi> !whoup coffee
[13:27:11] <Bender> uppers of coffee are: TheMightyBuzzard: 743, crutchy: 739, Blackmoore: 224, Bytram: 88, chromas: 83, crutchy_: 26, mrcoolbp: 19, mattie_p: 16, MrBluze: 15, arti: 15, paulej72: 14, mechanicjay: 13, AndyTheAbsurd: 13, TK: 12, TheMightyLaptop: 10, Ethanol-fueled: 10, Alberto: 9, exec: 8, silverly: 6, Bytram|away: 5, idetuxs: 4, monopoly: 4, rand: 3, keplr: 3, matt_: 3, - 2 more
[13:27:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot! i passed crutchy!
[13:27:25] <Konomi> the who up shows he cheating rather well
[13:27:28] <Konomi> the*
[13:27:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheating == gone
[13:27:40] <chromas> Konomi: and the who down
[13:28:01] <chromas> ++cheating
[13:28:02] <NetCraft> Karma - cheating: 1000000001
[13:28:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> added an even 9k to it then subtracted that earlier this morning
[13:28:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> palindrome!
[13:28:55] <Bytram> !whodown systemd
[13:28:55] <Bender> downers of systemd are: geotti: -22, ar: -7, aqu4: -4, TheMightyBuzzard: -3, FatPhil: -1, Subsentient: -1, arti: -1
[13:28:57] <crutchy> ++coffee
[13:28:57] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 180
[13:29:03] <Bytram> !whoup systemd
[13:29:03] <Bender> uppers of systemd are: chromas: 14, systemd: 4, crutchy: 3, JamesNZ: 2, aqu4: 1, crutchy__: 1
[13:29:16] <Bytram> oh!
[13:29:17] <Bytram> !uid
[13:29:18] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4921, owned by Ticka
[13:29:40] <Bytram> sounds like a bomb getting started... ticka ticka ticka... kaboom!
[13:29:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me, i needa polish on the api some around wednesday or so.
[13:30:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> double check that anything needing to be sql quoted is and such.
[13:30:49] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:49] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews Friend/Foe System
[13:31:03] <chromas> what? no prepared statements?
[13:31:14] <Bytram> you ain't gonna believe whose id was registered for that one!
[13:31:15] <chromas> in_band_signalling--
[13:31:15] <Bender> karma - in_band_signalling: -1
[13:31:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, most of that stuff is abstracted quite a lot and prepared later
[13:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> no raw sql calls for the most part.
[13:32:00] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[13:32:00] <NetCraft> ^ 03gewg_ - SoylentNews User
[13:32:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, ya, i think that proll ain't him though.
[13:32:27] <chromas> you can check, right?
[13:32:32] <Bytram> most certainly! Sure made me laugh when I saw it appear, though.
[13:32:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, how? compare ipids?
[13:32:49] <Bytram> chromas: oh, already did. throwaway e-mail addr
[13:32:53] <chromas> that's what I were thinkin'
[13:32:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like too much work.
[13:33:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> if gewg_ complains we can always change the email address and pw n give him the account.
[13:33:38] <Bytram> I just find it comical that, should there *ever* come a day that the real gewg_ would like to register, his nick is alread taken.
[13:33:45] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:33:46] <chromas> need an nsa.soylentnews.org that lets you compare ipids and stuff
[13:34:18] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: otoh, how will we know it is the real gewg_ and not someone spoofing us, again?
[13:34:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> well ipid is a hash of the ip address so not really helpful for that kinda stuff.
[13:34:43] <chromas> well that's just one thing. Also need to aggregate cookies and stuff
[13:34:51] <chromas> privacy_invasion++
[13:34:51] <Bender> karma - privacy_invasion: 1
[13:35:14] <Bytram> afk, back in a few minutes
[13:35:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmmm... cookies
[13:35:43] <chromas> Wikibot's still broken :(
[13:35:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:36:03] <chromas> I still think it's a conspiracy
[13:36:10] <chromas> no spam accounts since it died
[13:36:18] * TheMightyBuzzard invokes his Someone Else's Problem field
[13:36:24] <chromas> unless the mediawiki upgrade took care of that
[13:37:00] <chromas> yeah, but /me invokes sparsely persistent bitchctl :)
[13:37:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't look gift quiet in the mouth
[13:38:18] * chromas sniffs his gift fish
[13:41:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> got 1-2 days left on mod stuff, then api polishing, then everything goes to dev all final like barring bugs found.
[13:41:25] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++
[13:41:25] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 124
[13:41:28] * TheMightyBuzzard gives Bytram the stink-eye
[13:41:57] * Bytram smiles
[13:42:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> api could actually use a lot of banging on but it's not up on dev yet.
[13:42:51] <chromas> does it have the friend-/foectl?
[13:43:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, only AC-level stuff so far
[13:43:05] <Bytram> I'm looking to put up a new slashpoll "what debugging tool do you use the most?"
[13:43:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> print STDERR
[13:43:29] <chromas> linux only has gdb right?
[13:44:03] <Bytram> chromas: i dunno
[13:44:10] <Bytram> what does perl have?
[13:44:25] <chromas> perl has tmb :D
[13:44:29] <Bytram> lol
[13:44:30] <ciri> hehehe
[13:44:37] <Bytram> log files(?)
[13:44:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> perl can be debugged pretty well from the command line but not possible for most of slash, so STDERR to the log file.
[13:45:06] <Bytram> nod nod
[13:45:29] <Bytram> how 'bout: N,N-Diethyl-meta-toluamide =)
[13:45:40] <Bytram> aka DEET
[13:46:17] <Bytram> but i'd like to have a couple more software/hardware related choices
[13:46:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> like if i need to know what's in a data structure, print STDERR "\n",Dumper($thing),"\n";
[13:46:37] <Bytram> kewel!
[13:46:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Data::Dumper++
[13:46:52] <Bytram> oscilliscope!
[13:46:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> (Data::Dumper)++
[13:46:56] <Bender> karma - (data::dumper): 1
[13:49:26] * Bytram looks at: https://en.wikipedia.org
[13:49:27] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Debugging
[13:50:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> had surprisingly few bugs in the mod work i've done so far. primarily missing punctuation.
[13:51:03] * Bytram offers TheMightyBuzzard [[:punct:]]*
[13:51:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/[[:punct:]]/đź’©/g
[13:51:51] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> had surprisingly few bugs in the mod work iđź’©ve done so farđź’© primarily missing punctuationđź’©
[13:52:07] <chromas> neat
[13:52:12] <Bytram> LOL!!!
[13:52:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno why hexchat doesn't like spaces after a poo character
[13:53:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/ /Â /g
[13:53:52] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno why hexchat doesn't like spaces after a poo character
[13:54:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nbsp ftw
[13:55:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> wonder if i can set hexchat to sed out spaces with nbsps
[13:55:22] <chromas> is it just hexchat? Better check other gtk programs
[13:56:56] <Bytram> huh! that's weird!
[13:57:19] <Bytram> that's way up in the extended char range... maybe that has something to do with it?
[13:57:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly
[13:57:51] <chromas> what's it doing for you?
[13:58:10] <chromas> does it remove the post-poo spaces or something?
[13:58:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> putting a box with 0020 after the poo if there's a space there
[13:58:24] <Bytram> chromas: I can type/paste a poo char, but when I press the space bar, it is immediately followed with another char: "đź’© "
[13:58:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> đź’©Â may show up fine though.
[13:58:45] <chromas> I see a poo [space] here
[13:59:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp, doesn't like nbsps after it either
[13:59:30] <chromas> weird
[13:59:44] <chromas> maybe some of the other xchat forks are better
[13:59:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg
[13:59:48] <Bytram> chromas: I am using "HexChat" and "Unifont CSUR 14"
[14:00:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'prolly some library not handling it proper like
[14:00:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i refuse to try and find out which
[14:02:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.phoronix.com
[14:02:16] <NetCraft> ^ 03[Phoronix] 2K Games Confirms BioShock Infinite On Linux In Early 2015
[14:02:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, http://www.phoronix.com
[14:02:47] <NetCraft> ^ 03[Phoronix] Hack Adds Async Cooperative Multitasking For Fake Multi-Threading
[14:05:51] <Bytram> okay, looks like I basically have the poll ready... here's what I've got:
[14:05:52] <Bytram> What debugging tool do you use the most?
[14:05:52] <Bytram> gdb
[14:05:52] <Bytram> print statements
[14:05:52] <Bytram> log files
[14:05:52] <Bytram> oscilloscope
[14:05:54] <Bytram> users
[14:05:56] <Bytram> N,N-Diethyl-meta-toluamide
[14:06:00] <Bytram> I don't make mistakes so don't need to debug
[14:06:02] <Bytram> other - specify
[14:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds good
[14:08:39] <Bytram> any reordering?
[14:09:14] <chromas> we do that when we vote
[14:09:27] <Bytram> chromas: LOL!
[14:09:29] <chromas> [3] log files; [6] pr—
[14:09:36] <Bytram> thot I'd try and head that one off at the pass!
[14:10:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared
[14:10:59] <Bytram> chromas: not quite following you on that?
[14:12:21] <chromas> the sn name vote
[14:13:07] <Bytram> chromas: I'm still a bit undercaffienated atm; come again?
[14:13:10] <chromas> when we had 876 names to vote for the top 35 by giving them a number
[14:13:27] <chromas> by email
[14:13:29] <Bytram> oh, okay... I get that reference, now.
[14:13:52] <chromas> I'm going to be bringing it up for all eternity :)
[14:13:59] <Bytram> I thot you were suggesting a re-ordering of the choices and couldn't follow what your suggestion was.
[14:14:11] <chromas> also, BlueHost, CentOS and BA Barabbas
[14:14:15] <Bytram> so, the current order/choices are okay as they are?
[14:14:36] <chromas> looks good to me
[14:14:56] <Bytram> I wonder... are "print statments" and "log files' too much alike?
[14:15:20] <chromas> well I for one chuck prints in all over the place and never think to use a file
[14:15:26] <Bytram> nah. gives 'em something to discuss. I think I'll leave it as is.
[14:15:28] <Bytram> nod nod
[14:16:08] <Bytram> chromas: likewise; I often put sentinel values in the prints to identify different "sections" I'm debugging...
[14:16:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... think i may fix bender's rss reader
[14:16:21] <Bytram> e.g. print "## foo = " foo;
[14:16:47] <chromas> =new list .titles.strip
[14:16:47] <NetCraft> k
[14:16:59] <Bytram> then I can pipe the program output to: grep "##" and find just that part.
[14:17:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like it needs something along the lines of this http://stackoverflow.com
[14:17:06] <NetCraft> ^ 03Decode HTML entities in Python string? - Stack Overflow
[14:18:22] <chromas> if we want to hack on Bender, so we just paste a patch somewhere or is there a copy on soylent github?
[14:18:43] <chromas> fork Bender!
[14:20:25] <Bytram> the test release would, of course, be called "Bender Beta"
[14:20:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-feeds
[14:20:36] <Bender> feeds running in #Soylent: SoylentNews
[14:20:50] <Bytram> and then, when there is no better bender beta, it would go live
[14:20:51] <chromas> Bender Beta Rodriguez
[14:21:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i think bender is going to remain a staff-only project. join if you wanna break him too.
[14:22:41] * chromas backs away
[14:23:12] <Bytram> interesting! in *this* channel, Bender gets the quote characters correct in the SN story titles, but in #rss-bot, they come out as " chars?
[14:23:17] * chromas adds hive & regex support to the url stripper
[14:23:35] <chromas> rss-bot is a different bot
[14:23:40] <chromas> or at least a different instance
[14:23:53] <chromas> regurgitator
[14:24:19] <Bytram> I gathered that, just noticed the different handling of it, was all... suggests our RSS feed has the char ent instead of a literal, too?
[14:24:56] <chromas> I think entities in the xml feeds is another thing tmb's been battling
[14:25:21] <chromas> even some readers apparently evaluate them differently
[14:25:28] <Bytram> yeah, there's *lots* of places where user stuff comes out!
[14:26:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, ALL readers evaluate them differently as near as i can tell.
[14:26:34] <Bytram> we should standardize them! :/
[14:26:50] <chromas> do we force it to rss 2?
[14:27:01] <chromas> I thought that's one of the things they fixed in order to catch up to atom
[14:27:48] <Konomi> what's code got to do with it, got to do with it ~
[14:28:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> what's code but a second-hand expulsion?
[14:28:53] <Bytram> meta character encodings are prolific... %34 " " " U+0022 and I'm sure there's more.
[14:29:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, there's already some fixes in for that but man... it's as fixed as i can get it for multiple readers
[14:30:22] <Bytram> yeah, that's a tough one! I don't envy you at all!!!!!
[14:30:45] <Bytram> hmmmm... maybe hve multiple feeders?
[14:30:49] <Bytram> s/hve/have/
[14:30:49] <sedctl> <Bytram> hmmmm... maybe have multiple feeders?
[14:31:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> bender, you are one non-commented PoS
[14:31:30] <chromas> switch to exec
[14:31:36] <chromas> entice crutchy to come aboard
[14:34:08] <Bytram> afk; back in a while
[14:38:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i found the spot to fix the twitter feed at least
[14:39:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> let's bounce mr bender and see if it helps
[14:39:30] -!- Bender has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[14:40:09] -!- Bender [Bender!~Bender@xs508-09.members.linode.com] has joined #Soylent
[14:43:31] <Bytram> FYI: new poll is live
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[14:47:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, gonna be several hours before another story comes along to test the change
[14:47:25] <Bytram> I can speed things up, if you'd like.
[14:47:32] <chromas> just need to edit one
[14:47:43] <chromas> find a clock to de-l
[14:47:48] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, did you follow through on this? "Set article_link_story_dynamic to 0 and it disappears. I wasn't ever that impressed with the slashlink behavior anyway, so I have no problem disabling it. Will ask PJ about it Monday if I remember."
[14:47:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, add an nbsp to the end of the last title maybe?
[14:48:07] <Bytram> np, brb
[14:48:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> not yet, it's still on the todo list
[14:48:18] <chromas> or if someone has privs you could add another rss feed to it
[14:48:28] <chromas> point it at dev or something
[14:48:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i could prolly give myself privs but too much trouble
[14:48:39] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: that's on prod, right?
[14:48:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, ya, the second snowden one
[14:49:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> it had fun quotes that showed up like entities
[14:49:15] <Bytram> nod nod; that one will prolly have the " quotes, too.
[14:49:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully not on twitter though. think i fixed that
[14:49:36] <Bytram> you want it to be: "Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? " ??
[14:49:48] <Bytram> hmmm, too many quotpes.
[14:49:56] <Bytram> you want it to be: /Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? / ??
[14:50:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> that or put an actual nbsp in there U+00A0
[14:50:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> up to you really
[14:50:30] <Bytram> let's start with the named character entity
[14:51:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> only concerned about the quotes really, just need something to trigger the change in the rss feed
[14:51:36] <Bytram> hmmm, preview changed the / / to / / (i.e. just a space)
[14:51:43] <Bytram> trying again w/o prview
[14:51:58] * Bytram hits update
[14:52:32] * Bytram waits
[14:52:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, which box does slashd run on again...
[14:53:07] <Bytram> something about gas?
[14:54:18] <Bytram> I see nothing here... maybe I have to tweak the title a bit more to get the feed to update?
[14:54:39] <Bytram> or would changing the story text, work?
[14:54:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, feeds only rebuild every 15m
[14:54:46] <Bytram> ah.
[14:54:57] <chromas> plus how often does Bender poll the feed?
[14:55:12] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: you could manually tweak the feed :)
[14:55:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> could ya
[14:55:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, no clue
[14:55:49] <chromas> maybe you could add the dev feed to Bender in #dev
[14:56:01] <Bytram> chromas++
[14:56:01] <Bender> karma - chromas: 56
[14:56:25] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: is the 15m a site variable?
[14:56:27] <chromas> then that channel will finally have some activity :)
[14:56:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i don't have access to or know how to work bender
[14:57:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> only source editing
[14:57:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[14:58:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, i have no idea what box is running slashd for the live site
[14:58:15] <chromas> looks like it has a special soylentrss plugin
[14:58:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya
[14:59:55] <Bytram> here are all the site vars on dev which have "rss" in their name: default_rss_template, rss_allow_index, rss_expire_days, rss_max_items_incoming, rss_max_items_outgoing, rss_store, search_rss_enabled,
[15:00:17] <Bytram> nothing looks too useful, there.
[15:02:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> not looking to change generation time, easier to manually edit it
[15:02:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared
[15:02:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> gak
[15:02:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, shows fine on the main page so no worries
[15:02:58] <Bytram> fwiw, I saved that title without previewing.
[15:03:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> not popping up on twitter though
[15:04:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, there it goes and still not fixed
[15:04:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> needs to be run multiple times
[15:04:36] <Bytram> whacha see?
[15:05:06] <chromas> Bytram: what would be the appropriate regex for stripping a parameter from a url? "&?ftag=.&?" maybe?
[15:05:45] -!- Bender has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[15:06:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> there we go, yoink the nbsp back out
[15:06:12] <Bytram> hmmm, depends. IIRC, first parm is preceded with a "?" and subsequent ones with "&"
[15:06:15] * chromas consults a webby regex tester
[15:06:22] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: k; brb
[15:06:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i need more tweaking i'll just bugger with the rss feed directly
[15:06:38] <chromas> So I need a \? to find the beginning huh
[15:06:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> of what?
[15:07:27] <Bytram> I removed the " " from the end of the story title, AND added one to the end of the "dept"
[15:07:29] <chromas> I changed the url stripper to use regexes, so it takes off #ftag= and other tracking crap
[15:07:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> some of that stuff are important to get the right page
[15:08:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> like on SN pages
[15:08:22] <Bytram> chromas: ^^^ what he said
[15:08:38] <Bytram> http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:38] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN article: Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC 04(2 comments)
[15:08:43] <chromas> that's why I want them to be correct
[15:09:27] <Bytram> I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all solution to what you can/should strip -- more likely it will be site-dependent
[15:09:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> be another 6m before the feed updates
[15:09:42] <Bytram> k
[15:09:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> bender should be back before then
[15:09:55] <chromas> right now it's only doing "utm_source=feedburner" and "from=rss"
[15:09:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's on like a 5m cron job to restart
[15:10:09] -!- Bender [Bender!~Bender@xs508-09.members.linode.com] has joined #Soylent
[15:10:37] * chromas took the opportunity of Bender's leaving to get op in a couple of his channels :)
[15:11:02] * TheMightyBuzzard beats chromas with a stick
[15:11:18] <chromas> they're deprecated channels anyhow, like #relaytest
[15:11:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[15:11:35] <chromas> and #frontend
[15:11:42] <chromas> nobody's working on that no mo'
[15:12:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> says you, i put two new themes up for this release
[15:12:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: btw, ISTR there's a page on the wiki somewhere which lists the boxes and what runs on them
[15:12:21] <chromas> Doesn't count—you're not in the right channel
[15:12:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, ya but it ain't helpful given we have like 3 instances of slashcode running
[15:12:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> and only two listed instances of slashd running
[15:12:52] <Bytram> hrmmmm
[15:12:55] <chromas> http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[15:12:56] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: SystemAdministration
[15:16:12] <Bytram> *long* ago I worked as an electrician's helper. would go to fix some outlet somewhere and would take forever to find the right breaker to turn off before we worked on it. Fastest way was to just put a short across the box and then see which breaker tripped.
[15:16:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, feed is updated not waiting on bender to notice
[15:16:30] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: s/not/now/
[15:16:30] <sedctl> <Bytram> <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, feed is updated now waiting on bender to notice
[15:17:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> need moar coffees
[15:17:29] <Bytram> coffee++
[15:17:29] <Bender> karma - coffee: 888
[15:17:33] <Bytram> neat!
[15:18:19] <Bytram> and with that, I needs to be getting going here.
[15:18:50] <Bytram> this is the really busy season for me at work, so I don't know how much free time I'll have to do testing...
[15:19:53] <Bytram> For example: I'm working 4pm-11:30pm tonite, and back at it 8am-5pm (at least) tomorrow. and three more long days after that.
[15:20:08] <Bytram> things should calm down around mid/late january.
[15:20:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:20:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 889
[15:21:12] <Bytram> on 2nd thot... I can wait a few minutes to find out how bender handles the latest change.
[15:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea how long it'll take
[15:22:21] <chromas> =restart
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[15:22:37] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: nod nod...
[15:23:10] <Bytram> don't know if this helps any, but the server list you pointed me at has links to what services are supposed to be running on each host. e.g. http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[15:23:10] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Hydrogen
[15:23:24] <Bytram> http://wiki.soylentnews.org and http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[15:23:24] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Fluorine
[15:23:25] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Boron
[15:23:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, ya i already checked that
[15:24:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> those are pulled in to the list so they match
[15:24:23] <Bytram> figured as much... just wanted to cover all the bases.
[15:24:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> (Ronald Lee Ermey)++
[15:24:59] <Bender> karma - (ronald lee ermey): 1
[15:25:19] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: s/Ermey/Emery/
[15:25:19] <sedctl> <Bytram> <TheMightyBuzzard> (Ronald Lee Emery)++
[15:25:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, first time was correct
[15:25:54] <Bytram> urk!
[15:26:09] <Bytram> hmmmmm...
[15:26:15] <Bytram> cOfFeE++
[15:26:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 890
[15:26:15] <chromas> sedctl: s/Leee Ermy\)\+\+/McDonald)--
[15:26:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> drill sgt from full metal jacket
[15:26:29] <Bytram> ah, didn't see that one.
[15:26:33] <chromas> and many a recent tv show
[15:26:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> !?!?!?
[15:26:44] * Bytram hasn't watched tv since the last superbowl
[15:27:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1987 movie, Bytram
[15:27:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> http://www.imdb.com
[15:27:09] <NetCraft> ^ 03Full Metal Jacket (1987) - IMDb
[15:27:42] <Bytram> oh, I'm familiar with the movie, just hadn't seen it. chromas had mentioned many a recent TV show and I was responding to that.
[15:27:56] <chromas> he's also in episodes of Spongebob, Angry Beavers and had a show on Historychan
[15:28:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, prod updates rss every 20m not 15 like dev
[15:28:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> still, it's updated
[15:28:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmon, bender
[15:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i lurve seein him blow up watermellons with various things
[15:31:05] <Bytram> btw, just so there's someone else aware of it: soylentnews.org: Registry Expiry Date: 2015-02-09T01:50:26Z
[15:31:16] <chromas> Bender: rss-sync
[15:31:23] <chromas> probably need someone with powers
[15:31:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeep
[15:31:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync
[15:31:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp
[15:31:52] <chromas> :(
[15:31:57] <Bytram> !rss-sync
[15:31:58] <chromas> permissions: OPER - location: myplugs.common.soylentrss - examples: rss-sync mekker
[15:32:01] <Bytram> hmmm
[15:32:02] <Bytram> .op
[15:32:02] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o Bytram] by juggler
[15:32:06] <Bytram> !rss-sync
[15:32:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> no no no it ain't me, babe. it ain't me you're lookin for, babe.
[15:32:16] <chromas> may need op in the bot's eye
[15:32:23] <Bytram> .deop
[15:32:23] -!- mode/#Soylent [-o Bytram] by juggler
[15:32:49] <chromas> !list soylentrss
[15:32:49] <Bender> soylentrss plugin has the following commands: rss-search, rss-channels, rss-url, rss-markup, rss-delmarkup, rss-setsleeptime, rss-import, rss-del, rss-add, rss-setitems, rss-feeds, rss-stop, rss-delchannel, rss-all, rss-sleeptime, rss-stopwatch, rss-additem, rss-seturl, rss-watch, rss-link, rss-delitem, rss-start, rss-list, rss-addchannel, rss-markuplist, rss-itemslist, - 1 more
[15:33:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search
[15:33:17] <Bender> rss-search <searchtxt>
[15:33:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search Ask
[15:33:29] <Bender> results: [], [u'Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"?']
[15:33:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, so why haven't you said it to channel yet?
[15:33:49] <chromas> now we just need to know if that worked before
[15:34:10] <chromas> !rss-sleeptime
[15:34:10] <Bender> rss-sleeptime <feedname>
[15:34:14] <chromas> !rss-sleeptime soylent
[15:34:14] <Bender> can't get sleeptime for soylent
[15:34:19] <Bytram> hmmm, what if we stop and then start again? !rss-stop and then !rss-start
[15:34:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sleeptime #Soylent
[15:34:26] <Bender> can't get sleeptime for #Soylent
[15:34:45] <Bytram> !rss-sleeptime *
[15:34:45] <Bender> can't get sleeptime for *
[15:34:55] <Bytram> !rss-list
[15:34:56] <Bender> rss items: Chillax, SoylentNews
[15:34:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sleeptime Soylent
[15:35:00] <Bender> can't get sleeptime for Soylent
[15:35:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sleeptime SoylentNews
[15:35:04] <Bender> sleeptime for SoylentNews is 60 seconds
[15:35:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> wtf
[15:35:10] <chromas> !rss-feeds
[15:35:10] <Bender> feeds running in #Soylent: SoylentNews
[15:35:24] <chromas> !rss-itemslist SoylentNews
[15:35:24] <Bender> itemslist of (SoylentNews, #Soylent): title, link, slash_department
[15:35:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn yous, bender
[15:35:35] <chromas> !rss-sleeptime SoylentNews
[15:35:35] <Bender> sleeptime for SoylentNews is 60 seconds
[15:35:51] <Bytram> !rss-additem
[15:35:51] <Bender> rss-additem <feedname> <token>
[15:36:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima change something n bounce his ass again
[15:36:16] <Bytram> !rss-additem SoylentNews Test feed "quoted text"
[15:36:16] <Bender> rss-additem <feedname> <token>
[15:36:31] <Bytram> !rss-additem SoylentNews "Test feed text"
[15:36:31] <Bender> rss-additem <feedname> <token>
[15:36:56] <Bytram> k.
[15:37:05] <Bytram> well I gtg; have fun and good luck!
[15:37:09] -!- Bender has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
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[15:37:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> 4m he'll be back
[15:37:51] <Bytram|away> we hda snow and if I do not move my car, it'll get towed. not a good way to start my day.
[15:37:57] <Bytram|away> s/hda/had/
[15:37:57] <sedctl> <Bytram|away> we had snow and if I do not move my car, it'll get towed. not a good way to start my day.
[15:38:22] <Bytram|away> but I'll hold out for a couple min more
[15:38:42] * TheMightyBuzzard taps the clock
[15:40:09] -!- Bender [Bender!~Bender@xs508-09.members.linode.com] has joined #Soylent
[15:40:39] <chromas> !rss-sync SoylentNews
[15:40:41] <chromas> aw
[15:41:08] <chromas> took awhile for him to join some of the channels
[15:42:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> feed changed
[15:43:00] <chromas> !rss-markup SoylentNews
[15:43:00] <Bender> {u'sylnt': 1}
[15:43:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> if he don't notice in a minute or so i'll change it again
[15:43:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search Ask
[15:43:28] <Bender> results: [], [u'Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"?']
[15:44:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search Ask
[15:44:01] <Bender> results: [], [u'Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"?']
[15:44:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be a space after the question mark now
[15:44:56] <Bytram|away> TheMightyBuzzard: nope. you told me to remove that. I added one after the dept text
[15:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram|away, i'm editing the feed file manually
[15:45:16] <Bytram|away> oh. nvm
[15:46:36] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: add a new fake story
[15:46:41] <chromas> see if anyone pipes up about it
[15:46:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> to live? no.
[15:46:46] <chromas> just in the feed
[15:47:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm
[15:47:10] <chromas> premature april fools
[15:47:28] <chromas> or we need a test Bender
[15:47:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> we do
[15:47:46] <Bytram|away> will it bend? ;)
[15:48:11] <chromas> !boolProp testingCheatsEnabled = true
[15:49:06] <chromas> I bet nobody would notice if coffee went up a few points each time he's restarted
[15:49:26] * chromas gets the evil eye for pointing it out
[15:49:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's almost never bounced though
[15:49:44] <chromas> he is today ;)
[15:49:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> no kiddin
[15:49:55] <Bytram|away> !rename bender bumble # bumbles bounce
[15:50:07] <Bytram|away> gtg afk
[15:50:19] <chromas> see ya, Bytram
[15:50:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> laters
[15:51:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> wish i knew where his log file was
[15:53:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search Ask
[15:53:02] <Bender> results: [], [u'Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"?']
[15:53:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> stoopid bot
[15:53:34] <chromas> !rss-sync
[15:53:43] <chromas> need whoever set it up to give you privs
[15:53:49] <chromas> or maybe adjust the config file
[15:53:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> .op
[15:53:59] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o TheMightyBuzzard] by juggler
[15:54:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync
[15:54:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search Ask
[15:54:13] <Bender> results: [], [u'Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"?']
[15:55:12] <chromas> https://code.google.com
[15:55:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03/ - jsonbot2 - The JSON everywhere bot v2 - Google Project Hosting
[15:55:43] <chromas> ooh, there are man pages
[15:56:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync
[15:56:58] <chromas> !sex
[15:56:58] * Bender huh? moeilijk? waar? chromas
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[15:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> 2mish
[15:58:20] <chromas> there's no init script?
[15:58:46] <chromas> or, it doesn't do service bender restart?
[15:59:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> would take me longer than 2m to find the right cron job
[16:00:01] <chromas> Bender has its own titlebot
[16:00:09] -!- Bender [Bender!~Bender@xs508-09.members.linode.com] has joined #Soylent
[16:00:22] <chromas> !learn juggs is da boss
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[16:01:36] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v TheMightyBuzzard] by juggler
[16:01:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> fookin computer blackscreened n hard locked on me
[16:02:12] <chromas> blame systemd! blame systemd!
[16:02:24] <chromas> (tune of blame Canada)
[16:03:01] <chromas> !shop
[16:04:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync
[16:04:37] <Bender> rss-sync <feedname>
[16:04:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync SoylentNews
[16:04:47] <Bender> done - rss-sync
[16:04:54] <chromas> neat
[16:04:55] * TheMightyBuzzard grins
[16:05:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> gave myself bot oper privs
[16:05:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> now i can break stuff easier
[16:05:14] <chromas> /nick && ~rss-sync bewbs
[16:05:19] <chromas> /nick tmb && ~rss-sync bewbs
[16:05:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> !help
[16:05:32] <Bender> documentation for jsonbot can be found at http://jsonbot.org
[16:05:36] <Bender> see !list for loaded plugins and "!help plugin" for help on the plugin.
[16:05:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> !list
[16:05:40] <Bender> available plugins: admin, cfg, chan, chatlog, core, fleet, grabquote, ignore, irc, karma, koffie, lod, markov, more, plug, relay, soylentrss, sylnt, todo, twitter, uidchecker, urlinfo, user
[16:05:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> !help rss
[16:05:45] <Bender> can't find help on rss
[16:05:45] <ciri> Help is only available for the following: all,google,images,groups,news,local,book,video,fight,youtube,translate,gamespot,gamefaqs,blog,ebay,ebayfight,wikipedia,wikimedia,locate,review,torrent,top,popular,dailymotion,ign,myspace,trends,scholar
[16:05:52] <chromas> !list rss
[16:05:52] <Bender> rss plugin has the following commands: rss-search, rss-channels, rss-url, rss-markup, rss-delmarkup, rss-setsleeptime, rss-del, rss-import, rss-add, rss-feeds, rss-stop, rss-delchannel, rss-all, rss-stopwatch, rss-additem, rss-seturl, rss-setitems, rss-watch, rss-link, rss-delitem, rss-sleeptime, rss-start, rss-list, rss-addchannel, rss-markuplist, rss-itemslist, rss-scan, - 1 more
[16:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> !help soylentrss
[16:05:53] <ciri> Help is only available for the following: all,google,images,groups,news,local,book,video,fight,youtube,translate,gamespot,gamefaqs,blog,ebay,ebayfight,wikipedia,wikimedia,locate,review,torrent,top,popular,dailymotion,ign,myspace,trends,scholar
[16:05:56] <Bender> can't find help on soylentrss
[16:06:03] <chromas> !list soylentrss
[16:06:03] <Bender> soylentrss plugin has the following commands: rss-search, rss-channels, rss-url, rss-markup, rss-delmarkup, rss-setsleeptime, rss-del, rss-import, rss-add, rss-feeds, rss-stop, rss-delchannel, rss-all, rss-stopwatch, rss-additem, rss-seturl, rss-setitems, rss-watch, rss-link, rss-delitem, rss-sleeptime, rss-start, rss-list, rss-addchannel, rss-markuplist, rss-itemslist, - 1 more
[16:06:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search Ask
[16:06:13] <Bender> results: [], [u'Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"?']
[16:06:13] <chromas> !more
[16:06:17] <Bender> rss-scan, rss-stopall, rss-sync, rss-running, rss-register, rss-get, rss-addmarkup, rss-description
[16:06:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-watch
[16:06:46] <Bender> rss-watch <feedname> [secondstosleep]
[16:06:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-stopwatch
[16:06:54] <Bender> rss-stopwatch <feedname>
[16:07:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-stopwatch SoylentNews
[16:07:02] <Bender> stopped rss watchers: SoylentNews
[16:07:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-watch SoylentNews
[16:07:10] <Bender> watcher started SoylentNews
[16:09:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-itemslist
[16:09:07] <Bender> rss-itemslist feed<name>
[16:09:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-itemslist SoylentNews
[16:09:14] <Bender> itemslist of (SoylentNews, #Soylent): title, link, slash_department
[16:09:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[16:09:21] <Bender> no more data available for #Soylent
[16:10:14] <Konomi> https://soylentnews.org
[16:10:14] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Phoenix666 (552)
[16:10:22] <Konomi> "You get the Angry Bird stuffed animals, the Angry Bird lunch boxes, Star Wars Angry Birds (the perfect mating of two marketing whores if ever there was one), ad nauseum."
[16:10:25] <Konomi> priceless
[16:11:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search Ask
[16:11:34] <Bender> results: [], [u'Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"?']
[16:12:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-additem
[16:12:03] <Bender> rss-additem <feedname> <token>
[16:12:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-scan
[16:12:24] <Bender> rss-scan <feedname>
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[16:12:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-scan SoylentNews
[16:12:33] <Bender> tokens of SoylentNews: summary_detail=50, updated=50, links=50, author=50, slash_department=50, title=50, slash_comments=50, summary=50, title_detail=50, slash_section=50, link=50, slash_hit_parade=50, id=50, tags=50
[16:12:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search Ask
[16:12:41] <Bender> results: [], [u'Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"?']
[16:13:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, varnish is buggering it up
[16:14:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-scan SoylentNews
[16:14:04] <Bender> tokens of SoylentNews: summary_detail=50, updated=50, links=50, author=50, slash_department=50, title=50, slash_comments=50, summary=50, title_detail=50, slash_section=50, link=50, slash_hit_parade=50, id=50, tags=50
[16:14:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-search Ask
[16:14:08] <Bender> results: [], [u'Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"?']
[16:15:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> !list soylentrss
[16:15:11] <Bender> soylentrss plugin has the following commands: rss-search, rss-channels, rss-url, rss-markup, rss-delmarkup, rss-setsleeptime, rss-del, rss-import, rss-add, rss-feeds, rss-stop, rss-delchannel, rss-all, rss-stopwatch, rss-additem, rss-seturl, rss-setitems, rss-watch, rss-link, rss-delitem, rss-sleeptime, rss-start, rss-list, rss-addchannel, rss-markuplist, rss-itemslist, - 1 more
[16:15:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[16:15:13] <Bender> rss-scan, rss-stopall, rss-sync, rss-running, rss-register, rss-get, rss-addmarkup, rss-description
[16:15:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync
[16:15:27] <Bender> rss-sync <feedname>
[16:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync SoylentNews
[16:15:33] <Bender> done - rss-sync
[16:15:35] <chromas> !rss-get SoylentNews
[16:15:36] <Bender> results of SoylentNews: [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared || Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard || In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite - http://sylnt.us - free-basement-with-pizza - 14 more
[16:16:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, that should have changed
[16:17:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync SoylentNews
[16:17:31] <Bender> done - rss-sync
[16:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-get SoylentNews
[16:17:39] <Bender> results of SoylentNews: [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared || Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard || In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite - http://sylnt.us - free-basement-with-pizza - 14 more
[16:18:22] <chromas> Hm, in other channels, it doesn't use the url shortener
[16:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg
[16:19:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync SoylentNews
[16:19:37] <Bender> done - rss-sync
[16:19:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-get SoylentNews
[16:19:41] <Bender> results of SoylentNews: [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared || Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard || In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite - http://sylnt.us - free-basement-with-pizza - 14 more
[16:19:54] <Bytram|away> back
[16:19:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, he's not fetching properly
[16:19:58] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[16:20:12] <chromas> hopefully we're poking it in the right poo spots
[16:20:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-url
[16:20:21] <Bender> rss-url <feedname>
[16:20:26] <Bytram> hmmm, "he-just-disappeared " it *is* there
[16:20:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-url SoylentNews
[16:20:27] <Bender> url of SoylentNews: http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, yes and i manually edited it out seconds ago
[16:21:06] <Bytram> hrmn. :(
[16:22:06] <Bytram> from the feed, right?
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[16:22:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync SoylentNews
[16:22:39] <Bender> done - rss-sync
[16:22:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-get SoylentNews
[16:22:45] <Bender> results of SoylentNews: [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared || Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard || In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite - http://sylnt.us - free-basement-with-pizza - 14 more
[16:23:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, JUST re-edited it and he didn't fetch it
[16:23:26] <Bytram> slacker.
[16:24:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync SoylentNews
[16:24:16] <Bender> done - rss-sync
[16:25:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-get SoylentNews
[16:25:30] <Bender> results of SoylentNews: [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared || Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard || In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite - http://sylnt.us - free-basement-with-pizza || - 14 more
[16:25:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, there we go but he didn't announce it
[16:25:54] <chromas> not yet
[16:27:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync SoylentNews
[16:27:01] <Bender> done - rss-sync
[16:27:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-get SoylentNews
[16:27:07] <Bender> results of SoylentNews: [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared || Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard || In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite - http://sylnt.us - free-basement-with-pizza || - 14 more
[16:27:26] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[16:27:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> give em a minute, maybe he'll notice the change
[16:27:59] <chromas> !rss-feeds
[16:27:59] <Bender> feeds running in #Soylent: SoylentNews
[16:28:05] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: whacha need is a log file =)
[16:28:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-get SoylentNews
[16:28:08] <Bender> results of SoylentNews: [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second Snowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared || Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard || In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite - http://sylnt.us - free-basement-with-pizza || - 14 more
[16:28:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-sync SoylentNews
[16:28:25] <Bender> done - rss-sync
[16:28:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-get SoylentNews
[16:28:29] <Bender> results of SoylentNews: [SoylentNews] - Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second SNowden"? - http://sylnt.us - he-just-disappeared || Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC - http://sylnt.us - changing-of-the-guard || In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite - http://sylnt.us - free-basement-with-pizza || - 14 more
[16:28:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, that changed but he didn't announce it
[16:28:50] <chromas> hehe, !more !more !more
[16:29:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> wish i knew how he figured out how to tell new from old
[16:29:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima quit screwing around with the live server i think
[16:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> !list soylentrss
[16:30:12] <Bender> soylentrss plugin has the following commands: rss-search, rss-channels, rss-url, rss-markup, rss-delmarkup, rss-setsleeptime, rss-del, rss-import, rss-add, rss-feeds, rss-stop, rss-delchannel, rss-all, rss-stopwatch, rss-additem, rss-seturl, rss-setitems, rss-watch, rss-link, rss-delitem, rss-sleeptime, rss-start, rss-list, rss-addchannel, rss-markuplist, rss-itemslist, - 1 more
[16:30:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> velly velly confusing
[16:32:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-all
[16:32:03] <Bender> rss-all <feedname>
[16:32:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> !rss-all SoylentNews
[16:32:10] <Bender> results: Ask SoylentNews: What Happened to the "Second SNowden"? || Introducing the new CEO of SoylentNews PBC || In North Korea, Hackers Are a Handpicked, Pampered Elite || Rovio Lays Off 110 People as Angry Birds Hype Fades || Police in Denver to Use Olfactometers for Cannabis Odour Mapping || Red Hat and Huawei Take On Cisco and Ericsson - 7 more
[16:32:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[16:32:23] <Bender> with Open Stack Telecom Networking Systems || Green Light for European Extremely Large Telescope || Sites Certified as Secure Often More Vulnerable to Hacking || MSFT Hikes Support Charges by 92 Percent || Rolling Release for CentOS Linux || Who Owns CRISPR? || Cybersecurity Bill Gets New Life in Senate || NASA to Launch Orion Vehicle at 1200GMT on Friday || - 6 more
[16:32:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[16:32:28] <Bender> We Are Living in the Surveillance Society Says Assange || Node.js forked || Coffee Hawking Robots || Breaking: GitHub Blocked in Russia || You're Doing it All Wrong - Solar Panels Should Face West Not South || Gangnam Style Reaches YouTube View Limit || 'Moneyball' Approach Reduces Crime in New York City || Florida Law Mandating Drug Testing for Assistance Applicants - 5 more
[16:32:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[16:32:32] <Bender> Ruled Unconstitutional || Graphene Based Fuel Cell — Extract Hydrogen From Humid Air || Ten Years Ago: Undocumented Immigrant High Schoolers Beat MIT in Robotics Competition || Fort Lauderdale Websites DDoSed after Anonymous' Threats over Homeless Oppression || Get Ready for Some Law Schools to Close || CAPTCHA is Dead, Long Live CAPTCHA || The University - 4 more
[16:32:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[16:32:36] <Bender> of Democracy || Monkeys aren’t Fooled by Expensive Brands || Pizza Hut Tests New “Subconscious Menu” That Reads Your Mind || Germany's Largest Utility Gets out of the Fossil Fuel Business || Latest Sony Hack Sends Ripple of Dread Across Hollywood || Operation Cleaver: Iran's Cyber-Attack Program || US Renunciation Fee Rises to $2350 || The Journal - 3 more
[16:32:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[16:32:40] <Bender> Nature Makes Articles Free to Read... Sort-of || A Unique World-Wide Collaboration around an Open Source Offline Password Keeper || Milkweed Fibres Used for Environmentally Friendly Oil Spill Cleanup || Feds Use 1789 Law to Demand Apple and Google Decrypt Smartphones and Tablets || More Warnings of an AI Doomsday — This Time From Stephen Hawking || Disgraced - 2 more
[16:32:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[16:32:44] <Bender> Scientist is Selling his Nobel Prize || 2014 Hubble Space Telescope Advent Calendar || Human Brain Cells can Take Over Mice Brains || British Oil Giant Forced to Cut CEO Pay in Half || O'Reilly Discounts Every eBook By 50% or More in US - For 3 Days Only || Montana Lawmakers Propose 85 Mph Speed Limit on Interstates || Android MPD Client about to be Pulled from - 1 more
[16:32:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> !more
[16:32:48] <Bender> Play Store || Athletes Perform Better when Exposed to Subliminal Cues || The Politics of Every Major U.S. Religion in One Chart || Football Concussion Lawsuits Start to Hit High Schools || Political Correctness in Diverse Workplace Fosters Creativity || Mars Attacks!
[16:33:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas a lot more than is actually on our feed
[16:33:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, no
[16:33:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> we just have a very long feed
[16:34:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay, fishin sposed to start gettin good bout 11:30 and run till 4ish
[16:34:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should prolly take off pretty soon
[16:35:03] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: good luck and thanks for all the fish!
[16:35:05] <Bytram> =)
[16:36:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Your Own Private TSA - http://sylnt.us - that-silly-agency
[16:37:11] * mrcoolbp k-lines TMB for spamming channel
[16:37:27] <mrcoolbp> (flooding)
[16:37:46] <chromas> spamming too. Many links; something about soylent
[16:37:48] * Bytram offers mrcoolbp a bucket
[17:02:54] <Bytram> okay all, time for me to get going...
[17:03:13] <Bytram> g'night everybody!
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[17:35:32] <chromas> sleep-- #for wasting time
[17:35:32] <Bender> karma - sleep: 10
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[18:38:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russia Behind Fracking Protests in Europe? - http://sylnt.us - claims-but-no-evidence
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[19:33:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Juggs, you listenin'?
[19:33:17] <Ethanol-fueled> So did you step forward, or did everybody else step back? :)
[19:34:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Also, congrats.
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[19:37:10] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v Subsentient] by juggler
[19:40:57] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup subsentient
[19:41:13] <Subsentient> hey Ethanol-fueled
[19:41:17] <Subsentient> $beer Ethanol-fueled
[19:41:17] * aqu4 gives Ethanol-fueled a cold can of beer
[19:41:22] <Ethanol-fueled> aw, yeah
[19:42:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Just heard the news about Juggs being the new boss.
[19:42:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Is it a big deal or just business as usual?
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[19:46:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, well. Gonna idle for awhile and get some homework done.
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[21:10:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, he stepped forward after i gave him a good shove.
[21:10:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah
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[21:34:32] <crutchy> ++coffee
[21:34:32] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 181
[21:37:17] <swiss> --coffee
[21:37:17] <NetCraft> Karma - tea: 16
[21:37:19] <swiss> QQ
[21:37:23] * crutchy is designing a mass concrete footing to hold his feet in place
[21:37:25] <swiss> /self kill
[21:37:29] <swiss> tea--
[21:37:29] <Bender> karma - tea: 282
[21:37:31] <swiss> --tea
[21:37:31] <NetCraft> Karma - tea: 15
[21:40:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Deleted Rivals’ Songs from Users’ iPods - Class-Action Suit - http://sylnt.us - paid-for-but-not-yours
[21:42:11] <crutchy> and yet people still buy apple shit
[21:42:17] <crutchy> the mind boggles
[21:42:58] <swiss> i have never found a company that seems to care as much about UX as apple
[21:44:19] <swiss> often they go too far to try to enforce their UX
[21:44:29] <swiss> but if you enjoy their UX, it's glorious
[21:45:11] <swiss> like imessage - friggin baller if you have an apple integrated life. Unfortunately, they don't have linux or windows (tmk) apps for imessage, which breaks the flow
[21:46:24] <swiss> also, full disclosure, i moved to iphone a few months ago when my android broke, and it's been much nicer. I was nearly about to switch back to a Rumor2 because i was so fed up with android.
[21:46:39] <crutchy> 'if you have an apple integrated life' is the most disturbing part
[21:46:50] <swiss> same is true with google though
[21:47:08] <crutchy> i use google search and that's it
[21:47:09] <swiss> hangouts + gv makes my life much nicer, on everything but my iphone
[21:47:29] <swiss> since i can receive my text messages on anything, send new texts from anything, see my history, etc
[21:47:46] <crutchy> i have an android phone but i don't really use it for all the fluffy cat shit that a lot of people seem to use them for
[21:47:50] <swiss> except for the iphone, where i can't send new texts from hangouts unless i already have a conversation with the person
[21:48:34] <swiss> google now is really cool, especially now that they integrated it with chrome
[21:48:56] <crutchy> i like not being too attached to technology
[21:49:03] <swiss> with the iphone it's nice for some other things now - like "notes" auto syncing between the mac mini and the phone
[21:49:14] <swiss> so i edit my grocery list on either system, and can view it
[21:49:27] <swiss> of course, i could download apps that do the same thing, but having it built in is nice
[21:49:53] <crutchy> it all sounds a bit too 'tech slave' for me
[21:50:01] <swiss> but what i'm really getting at here is that their ecosystem is beautiful as long as they keep it walled in
[21:50:28] <crutchy> doesn't it just force you to buy all the shit they offer?
[21:50:31] <swiss> walled-garden and such. And a walled garden is perfect for most people
[21:50:49] <swiss> not really - it just makes it more appealing to buy things they offer rather than competitors
[21:51:13] <swiss> because you know that what they offer is going to be more heavily tested and designed for your system than any other company's offerings
[21:51:13] <crutchy> even if they cost twice as much and do half the things
[21:51:43] <swiss> overall, they don't prevent you from using other company's offerings - you can still get Word on OSX
[21:51:48] <crutchy> not that im saying you shouldnt
[21:52:10] <swiss> it's just they made theirs much better for the people within their ecosystem
[21:52:13] <crutchy> i have huge respect for apple
[21:52:48] <swiss> imo the mac mini is apple's best offering
[21:53:00] <swiss> and i'm surprised it's not more common
[21:53:18] <swiss> beautiful little computer for a reasonable price, with a killer user experience
[21:53:25] <swiss> and high level of stability as a desktop machine
[21:53:26] <crutchy> prolly cos a lot of people just cant afford apple
[21:53:34] <swiss> mac mini is like $500-600
[21:53:59] <crutchy> not a lot of people just have $500-$600 laying around their couch cushions
[21:54:23] <swiss> nah, but when you're getting a brand new desktop, you're often paying about that much if you're getting a system with equivalent specs
[21:54:46] <crutchy> the desktop market is dropping off for the same reasons
[21:54:53] <swiss> ugh, g2g, gf needs me to assemble furniture cause her family sucks at it
[21:54:58] <crutchy> people just don't wanna upgrade if they dont have to
[21:55:25] <crutchy> haha that's just the start dude
[21:56:05] <crutchy> catch a laters
[21:57:54] * crutchy is wondering whether loginkit is gunna try to do too much similar to systemd components. looks like they're already trying to include power management from gnome-settings-daemon
[22:07:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha, it worked. no more double encoded garbage in the twitter feed.
[22:10:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com
[22:11:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty foot n a half largemouth first cast of the day. not a nibble afterwards.
[22:12:39] <crutchy> noice
[22:13:38] <crutchy> i don't mind bream or trevally with some squeezed lemon
[22:14:12] <crutchy> there's another one we used to try catch as kids but cant think of the name
[22:16:20] <crutchy> whiting i think
[22:16:52] <crutchy> yeah saw a pic in google. fun to catch cos they put up a bit of a figght
[22:17:11] <crutchy> not as much as kingfish
[22:23:10] <crutchy> hmm not sure what sort of trevally though
[22:23:26] <crutchy> wikipedia-- # with all its bs scientific taxonomy shit
[22:23:26] <Bender> karma - wikipedia: 1
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[22:27:31] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[22:28:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's back in the water now. didn't feel like cleaning one fish when i'd be cleaning it for other folks to eat anyway.
[22:28:31] <crutchy> you on your phone?
[22:28:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, back home. my cellphone's been in the lake for like 10 years
[22:29:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> threw it there cause someone called me while fishing
[22:30:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't gotten another yet cause every time i think about it i come to the realization that it would happen all over again.
[22:30:52] <crutchy> [[SoylentNews|About SoylentNews.org]]
[22:30:54] <exec> 13Welcome to the SoylentNews.org Wiki. We deliver community-sourced news and discussion. This is an open-source, grassroots effort powered by article submissions from our readers, volunteers, and our forked version of slashcode. We highlight stories on the web which are important to everyone - especially nerds. We also provide a soapbox for discussion moderated by the site's patrons, and allow anony...
[22:31:43] <crutchy> hmm maybe i should add a url
[22:35:26] <Alberto> crutchy, add a [[Search|About]]
[22:35:36] <Alberto> [[Search|About]]
[22:35:37] <exec> 13wiki: get_text=error getting sections for page "Search"
[22:36:06] <crutchy> butt fugly error message, but means there's no 'Search' page in the wiki
[22:40:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool
[22:40:58] * TheMightyBuzzard hates wikis anyway
[22:41:56] <crutchy> wiki's are pretty cool
[22:42:22] <crutchy> wikimedia wiki is a bit over the top, but i like its api
[22:44:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> wikis are unholy messes that are impossible to navigate.
[22:44:56] <crutchy> they can be. successful wiki needs a good search tool and some editing conventions
[22:45:26] <crutchy> but with a good search tool even unholy messes can yield info that you want
[22:52:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe i'll have me a pre-dinner nap now. yay weekend!
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[23:23:44] <crutchy> ++coffee
[23:23:45] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 182
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[23:36:55] <crutchy> oh wow i just found out the news. only a week late, but congrats to juggs!
[23:38:54] <crutchy> lmao http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Ethanol-fueled (2792)
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[23:48:17] <Wierd0n3> hey admins, we seem to have another troll spamming the site again. look at the rovio article
[23:48:57] <idetuxs> Hi!
[23:49:17] <idetuxs> a drink for juggs :)
[23:51:19] <Wierd0n3> also the police in denver article
[23:52:00] <crutchy> https://soylentnews.org
[23:52:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03SN comment by Anonymous Coward
[23:52:08] <crutchy> i cant see any spam in there
[23:52:42] <crutchy> there's some silly stuff, but nothing that i think would qualify as 'spam'
[23:54:52] <crutchy> same for the denver police article. just some innocent stupid
[23:54:58] <crutchy> no law against that
[23:55:39] <Wierd0n3> i wouldn't call the last 3 in that link silly stuff myself, it just seems they are flaunting the fact that they are bypassing the AC restrictions
[23:56:10] <crutchy> Wierd0n3, if you surf with threshold of 1 you'll filter out all the garbage
[23:58:21] <crutchy> Wierd0n3, what do you mean 'bypassing the AC restrictions'? do you think there might be a bug of some sort?
[23:59:35] <crutchy> tbh i'm not 100% sure of the AC restrictions myself, but if there are people getting around them it would be pretty serious