#Soylent | Logs for 2014-12-03
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[00:11:01] <chromas> and make it so we can moderate the post
[00:12:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, be nice to the eds or no stories for joo
[00:13:46] <chromas> -1, :(
[00:21:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, mostly no because it'd require something ajaxy to support tags on stories and we're anti-ajax round these parts
[00:22:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> at least without doing a page reload anyway
[00:27:00] <JamesNZ> Why are you anti-AJAX?
[00:27:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> site policy is anything javascript must be minor and must fail gracefully without harming site functionality.
[00:28:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause a LOT of users run noscript.
[00:28:45] <JamesNZ> Ah, I see.
[00:29:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ideally we like to be usable in lynx even
[00:29:51] <chromas> ajax should be replaced by html
[00:30:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> am going to add one wee bit of javascript soon but all it'll do is move the selection caret back to the page as a whole so when you go to scroll after picking a mod it doesn't scroll through the mod options instead of the page
[00:31:28] <chromas> I remember when we had to do that with frames
[00:41:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - More Warnings of an AI Doomsday — This Time From Stephen Hawking - http://sylnt.us - The-cybersapiens-are-coming! The-cybersapiens-are-coming!
[00:41:33] <chromas> Don't trust him! He's already cyborg!
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[01:37:07] <SirFinkus> apropos? http://ieet.org
[01:37:08] <NetCraft> ^ 03Made for You
[01:41:09] <SirFinkus> When Sandra was three months old, she proudly told me that she had got a job designing meat vats, and that she had obtained adult status.
[01:41:10] <SirFinkus> "Now that I'm not your ward, we can make love." My virtual reality gear had the necessary features, so we did that right away.
[01:47:21] <chromas> The Corp Corps
[01:50:47] <SirFinkus> I love how he just has to mention it runs free software
[01:52:17] <chromas> It's only natural that they'd give away the part that makes their robots special or unique amongst their competitors
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[02:03:48] <SirFinkus> naw man, corporations as we know them now no longer exist
[02:05:46] <chromas> Oh, it's the future; shouldn't he've asked if the software was gpl5 or later?
[02:07:36] <SpallsHurgenson> which will humanity have to deal with first: engineered cybernetic intelligences, genetically uplifted intelligences, or non-terrestrial intelligences?
[02:08:55] <SirFinkus> so idea for the US
[02:09:02] <SirFinkus> swap the defense and NASA budgets
[02:09:06] <chromas> Whichever it is, I'm sure we'll have to deal with licensing issues
[02:10:03] <chromas> SirFinkus: I think you just need to move an A around and it'll work out
[02:10:14] <chromas> Swap NSA and NASA budgets
[02:10:15] <SpallsHurgenson> I mean, AI seems the obvious answer, since we are actively pursueing that... but everytime I imagine we are approaching AI, I remember Microsoft Bob and slide my chips onto either of the two other bets :)
[02:10:59] <SirFinkus> that gives the NSA too much
[02:11:14] <chromas> And then there's Clippit, from the genetically uplifted intelligence dept
[02:11:26] <chromas> He used to be a staple
[02:14:12] <SpallsHurgenson> so we're waiting on ET?
[02:15:09] <SirFinkus> ET?
[02:16:32] <SpallsHurgenson> End Times :)
[02:16:46] <SpallsHurgenson> Execution Time
[02:16:51] <SirFinkus> that's just an engineering problem
[02:16:54] <SpallsHurgenson> Enemy Territory
[02:17:06] <SpallsHurgenson> Ethiopia
[02:17:40] <SpallsHurgenson> EtherTalk, even :)
[02:20:16] <chromas> Mac and Me
[02:22:57] <SpallsHurgenson> speaking of NASA (well, human space exploration) http://vimeo.com
[02:22:58] <NetCraft> ^ 03Wanderers - a short film by Erik Wernquist on Vimeo
[02:40:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Feds Use 1789 Law to Demand Apple and Google Decrypt Smartphones and Tablets - http://sylnt.us - goose-and-gander
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[03:12:35] * SpallsHurgenson burps happily after a filling dinner
[03:16:58] <JamesNZ> TMI.
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[03:24:13] <SpallsHurgenson> the burping or the dinner?
[03:24:40] <JamesNZ> Burping ;)
[03:26:47] <JamesNZ> There's this guy on freenode channel who almost spams the channel with ridiculously detailed info about each and every one of his farts, so I'm kinda averse to hearing about people's re-pressurization :P
[03:27:29] <JamesNZ> s/freenode channel/freenode/
[03:27:29] <sedctl> <JamesNZ> There's this guy on freenode who almost spams the channel with ridiculously detailed info about each and every one of his farts, so I'm kinda averse to hearing about people's re-pressurization :P
[03:32:04] <SpallsHurgenson> to be fair, it was a really GOOD dinner. It deserved "repressurization" :)
[03:33:32] <chromas> sedctl: s/freenode/twatter/
[03:34:41] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: Heh.
[03:37:45] <SpallsHurgenson> https://www.youtube.com
[03:37:46] <NetCraft> ^ 03The Hollywood Guide to Computer Hacking. - YouTube
[03:44:00] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[03:44:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9897
[03:44:01] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[03:44:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9896
[04:01:06] <SpallsHurgenson> well, time to hum tunelessly
[04:02:35] * Konomi lives again ~
[04:03:11] <SpallsHurgenson> Undead! Zombie!
[04:05:02] <Konomi> rawr
[04:05:31] <Konomi> http://boingboing.net
[04:05:32] <NetCraft> ^ 03Kickstarting a keyboard-shaped waffle-iron - Boing Boing
[04:07:01] <SpallsHurgenson> even though I just had a great dinner, I sure could go for some waffles now
[04:08:36] <SpallsHurgenson> !todo eat waffles!
[04:08:36] <Bender> todo item 8 added
[04:17:27] <SpallsHurgenson> !todo
[04:17:27] <Bender> todo for spallshurgenson: 1) plan to take over the world 2) go to bed 3) get to set policy for the nation 4) take revenge on all IRC bots 5) grab /something/ and wrestle with it 6) goto item 1 7) copy files BEFORE harddrive crashes 8) eat waffles!
[04:18:01] <chromas> Looks like [7,8] can be optimized out
[04:18:24] <Konomi> http://hackaday.com
[04:18:25] <NetCraft> ^ 03Kentucky-Fried Induction Furnace | Hackaday
[04:21:26] <SpallsHurgenson> that seems like a remarkably bad idea
[04:27:15] <SpallsHurgenson> those guys are EIA just waiting to happen
[04:50:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Milkweed Fibres Used for Environmentally Friendly Oil Spill Cleanup - http://sylnt.us - better-living-through-botany
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[05:12:11] <chromas> he forgot to say "kitty"
[05:46:34] <JamesNZ> infinality++
[05:46:34] <Bender> karma - infinality: 0
[06:09:48] <Konomi> god the thunder here I think I just skipped a few heart beats
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[06:24:16] <crutchy> ++coffee
[06:24:16] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 126
[06:33:04] <Konomi> I sprayed inside my car mirrors today with surface bug spray
[06:33:11] <Konomi> cause spiders won't gtfo my mirrors
[06:33:26] <crutchy> i went to work :/
[06:34:16] <crutchy> spiders--
[06:34:16] <Bender> karma - spiders: -1
[06:34:45] <crutchy> spiders_with_icecream_and_softdrink++
[06:34:46] <Bender> karma - spiders_with_icecream_and_softdrink: 1
[06:44:40] <Konomi> they keep making webs in my side mirrors
[06:44:42] <Konomi> gets annoying
[07:00:30] <Konomi> https://i.imgur.com
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[08:35:05] * crutchy is thinking what to work on tonight
[08:35:10] <crutchy> prolly ircd
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[08:50:44] <crutchy> ~weather
[08:50:46] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC - currently 61°F / 16°C, rain, humidity 97% - Wednesday chance of rain (57°F-75°F / 14°C-24°C), Thursday chance of storm (61°F-77°F / 16°C-25°C), Friday chance of rain (57°F-72°F / 14°C-22°C), Saturday chance of rain (55°F-66°F / 13°C-19°C) - source: Google
[08:50:50] <crutchy> ~time
[08:50:51] <exec> Wednesday, 3 December 2014 @ 7:50 pm GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
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[09:40:43] <prospectacle> hello
[09:40:43] <ciri> hello, whats up prospectacle
[09:41:42] <chromas> bot_promiscuity++
[09:41:42] <Bender> karma - bot_promiscuity: 1
[09:42:02] <crutchy> g'day
[09:48:17] <Konomi> damn flirty bots
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[10:50:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Journal Nature Makes Articles Free to Read... Sort-of - http://sylnt.us - right-to-read
[11:03:24] <prospectacle> I don't see why people are worried about making computers smarter than us. The danger is in making computers that are both smarter than us, and given human instincts and desires. That would be dangerous, and pointless (other than the obvious point of proving we can do it)
[11:04:43] <prospectacle> Making computers smarter than us with behaviour that's aimed towards helping people is not only desirable, it already exists wherever a computer can reach an answer or solve a problem faster than a human would
[11:05:43] <crutchy> i generally buy into the old saying that "artificial intelligence will never be a match for natural stupidity"
[11:07:30] <prospectacle> that's true, dumb people always break brilliant systems
[11:07:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:07:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9897
[11:07:49] <crutchy> where computers have trouble is things like ingenuity, imagination, etc
[11:08:04] <crutchy> all the really abstract stuff
[11:09:20] <prospectacle> Yeah they have a very limited ability to recognise something good if it's new. Actually people have trouble with this as well, but not as much as computers
[11:09:43] <prospectacle> It's hard to evaluate really new and different things using existing standards
[11:12:21] <crutchy> humans design computers, but humans don't understand humans well enough to design computers to be like humans
[11:13:59] <chromas> even if we could, we'd have to let them hang around a few years to find out if they just take a while to be smart like humans
[11:14:12] <chromas> each AI
[11:15:03] <prospectacle> Although unlike humans, if we ever had one smart enough, after years of learning and evolution, we could just clone it and start several new branches based on the existing one. Or keep backups as we go and branch from any stage of its development
[11:16:11] <chromas> These are things I haven't seen in movies. Better get to writing!
[11:16:53] <crutchy> i think the questionable assumption is that we're capable of making a computer like a human
[11:17:13] <prospectacle> people with domestic androids could enter them in a best-robot-butler competition, and whichever wins gets cloned a million times. Presumably the owner gets lots of money.
[11:17:50] <prospectacle> However one time it goes horribly wrong (this is the movies after all) one of the winners also knows deep dark secrets about the criminal enterprsies of its original owner, so all the clones know these things to and start co-operating to run a world-wide smuggling network, assuming that's what their owners want.
[11:17:53] <prospectacle> or something
[11:18:17] <chromas> do it!
[11:18:24] <crutchy> or they all just find and start beating up will smith
[11:18:33] <chromas> 2015 will be the Year of the AI Movie Revolution
[11:19:32] <chromas> crutchy: that already happened
[11:20:07] <chromas> He was just chillin' out, maxin', relaxin' all cool and all shottin' some b-ball outside of the the school
[11:20:31] <prospectacle> 2016 will be the year of the linux-desktop-based sci-fi movie revolution; movies based on the idea that linux dominates the desktop. dozens of them.
[11:21:18] <chromas> A nation divided
[11:21:35] <chromas> Should it be linux-desktop-based scifi-movie revolution?
[11:21:41] <chromas> or gnu/linux-desktop-based scifi-movie revolution?
[11:22:12] <prospectacle> one of the movies will have a character who keeps correcting people every time they say linux. "uh, it's gnu/linux"
[11:22:29] <prospectacle> "I think you'll find linux is just the kernel", etc
[11:22:39] <crutchy> gnu/sci-fi
[11:22:48] <chromas> "gu..gunoo! GUN! HE's GOT A GUN!!"
[11:23:09] <chromas> <crutchy>ganoo!
[11:23:09] <chromas> bless you!
[11:23:24] <chromas> or uh, gazundheit
[11:23:31] <chromas> whatever it is they used to say on tv
[11:23:58] <crutchy> gazoontight
[11:24:10] <chromas> gnu/tight
[11:24:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nagnu-nagnu
[11:25:05] <chromas> Just think, if we didn't have to pronounce the "g", we could make all kinds of puns like that
[11:25:21] <chromas> or wordplay. whatever
[11:26:34] <prospectacle> the new true gnu crew and the case of the haunted daemon
[11:27:13] <chromas> jinkies
[11:27:42] <chromas> Scooby gnu
[11:42:13] * TheMightyBuzzard hates typos
[11:42:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> forget one measly ) or } and you gotta do an entire redeploy
[11:43:23] <chromas> Just change the font so they look the same
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[11:50:52] <crutchy> #github is goin nuts
[11:51:13] <chromas> but hey, it skipped 8 files :)
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[12:11:04] <chromas> crutchy san: the graph—it is getting complex
[12:11:52] <crutchy> very sticky indeed :)
[12:12:48] <crutchy> ircd processes initial nick and user commands
[12:13:19] <chromas> :)
[12:13:32] <chromas> or (: if you're left-handed
[12:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya just did a rebase to get my modrework branch caught up to master
[12:23:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and to get master caught up to upstream/master
[12:24:59] <crutchy> fuck. ima not gunna bother with numerics for now. that's a huge arse job in itself
[12:25:54] <chromas> crutchy: the server messages?
[12:26:02] <crutchy> yeah
[12:26:11] <chromas> yeah, those suck
[12:26:22] <crutchy> there's hundreds of the bastards to implement
[12:26:34] <chromas> and they each have their own little format
[12:26:51] <chromas> well, there's probably about 45 different message formats they take turns with
[12:26:59] <crutchy> i've got error messages and i'm putting references to numerics occasionally
[12:32:52] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[12:33:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> confusing myself
[12:52:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Renunciation Fee Rises to $2350 - http://sylnt.us - breaking-up-is-hard-to-do
[12:54:51] <crutchy> haven't quite got join working yet
[12:55:10] <crutchy> might not be too far away though
[12:55:33] <crutchy> something for tomorrow cos i'm buggered. ciao
[12:55:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, nite
[12:55:48] <crutchy> oh gots weather working again too
[12:55:51] <crutchy> ~weather
[12:55:52] <exec> Weather for Traralgon VIC - currently 61°F / 16°C, thunderstorm, humidity 100% - Wednesday chance of rain (57°F-77°F / 14°C-25°C), Thursday thunderstorm (57°F-77°F / 14°C-25°C), Friday chance of rain (55°F-66°F / 13°C-19°C), Saturday chance of rain (57°F-66°F / 14°C-19°C) - source: Google
[12:55:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather
[12:55:57] <exec> Weather for Ada, OK, USA - currently 37°F / 3°C, overcast, wind E at 6 mph, humidity 100% - Wednesday chance of showers (43°F-48°F / 6°C-9°C), Thursday chance of showers (54°F-55°F / 12°C-13°C), Friday thunderstorm (45°F-64°F / 7°C-18°C), Saturday mostly cloudy (39°F-54°F / 4°C-12°C) - source: Google
[12:56:00] <crutchy> ~time
[12:56:01] <exec> Wednesday, 3 December 2014 @ 11:56 pm GMT+11 - Traralgon VIC
[12:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~weather ar
[12:56:09] <exec> Weather for Warsaw, Poland - currently 30°F / -1°C, mostly cloudy, humidity 81% - Wednesday partly cloudy (27°F-32°F / -3°C-0°C), Thursday partly cloudy (26°F-33°F / -3°C-1°C), Friday partly cloudy (26°F-32°F / -3°C-0°C), Saturday mostly cloudy (30°F-33°F / -1°C-1°C) - source: Google
[12:56:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> whew, at least it's warmer here than in poland
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[13:12:36] <chromas> There don't seem to be any spams on the wiki since the bot died. Conspiracy?
[13:12:50] <chromas> (the wiki-monitoring bot)
[13:17:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> bot was secretly a shill for big pharma
[13:18:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> things i wonder: How do you do "Hands up, don't shoot" while carrying a 52" flatscreen.
[13:22:38] <chromas> If you're carrying a television, you're automatically a criminal
[13:22:55] <chromas> 'cause then the cops get the tv
[13:25:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i mean for the "protesters"
[13:27:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can see that being a dilemma for them.
[13:47:17] <juggs> ~g'day all
[13:47:18] * exec fanatically offers a bathtub of spew to all
[13:49:07] <ar> https://github.com
[13:49:07] <NetCraft> ^ 03AeroNotix/lispkit · GitHub
[13:51:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> heya, juggs
[13:52:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> a lisp browser using webkit? ye flipping gods
[13:52:35] <juggs> how's things? been code wrangling or foosh fondling?
[13:53:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> code wrangling today. working out how to ban users from moderating until a date set in the db so we can in cases of abuse.
[13:53:38] <juggs> sounds usefu;
[13:54:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, the new spam mod is gonna be a ten point karma hit so it very much needs the ability to prevent its abuse.
[13:56:23] <juggs> ouch - but then do the spam merchants care about their karma?
[13:56:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> no bug having karma too negative automatically limits your posting ability.
[13:56:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> s/bug/but/
[13:56:52] <sedctl> <TheMightyBuzzard> no but having karma too negative automatically limits your posting ability.
[13:57:42] <juggs> Ahh, that makes good sense then - glad someone else is thinking this stuff through
[13:58:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> also going to be a link out beside the score for admins/editors if a comment got modded spam for them to call bullshit
[14:01:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> and a list of spam mods you can get to from the admin bar
[14:02:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should've gotten an email about all the proposed changes from the mailing list though
[14:03:07] <juggs> I probably did, I'm well behind on that
[14:03:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> slacker, you got like till the end of the week to catch up if you wanna have any input before it goes to the users for flaming.
[14:04:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe longer. depends on how long this ends up taking me to get done.
[14:06:40] <juggs> I shall start reading up, right after I grab another cuppa tea++
[14:13:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> crap, bytram wrote an NCommander novel
[14:18:39] <chromas> Someone had to fill in
[14:41:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Operation Cleaver: Iran's Cyber-Attack Program - http://sylnt.us - don't-pick-a-fight-with-16-opponents-at-once
[14:42:06] <juggs> It wasn't all that long TMB
[14:42:24] <juggs> now I'm hungry - time for foodstuffs
[14:42:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, dozen n change messages
[14:45:58] <Leebert> I'm feeling agile this morning!
[14:49:11] * TheMightyBuzzard snickers
[14:49:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> sucker
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[14:52:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd feel your pain but there aren't enough devs on the team here to practice Agile even if we wanted to.
[14:55:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, maybe if i caught multiple personality disorder in a big way.
[14:56:40] <chromas> Need to get your fooshes on the dev team
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[14:57:13] <Leebert> I'm not a dev, so I get to just sit back and watch the mayhem from the sidelines.
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[14:58:10] <Leebert> Well, OK, I am slightly involved in dev since I get to break their applications.
[15:02:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, you're their Bytram then.
[15:02:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's all the time breaking my stuff, so I blame him for everything by default.
[15:03:22] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, oh good, someone channeling me
[15:05:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, it was a quality writeup. ima have to put a lot of effort into doing similar for mod changes experiment soonish.
[15:06:32] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: I'm willing to bet you do actual input validation.
[15:07:17] <Leebert> or, at least, if someone comes to you and says: "you have a xss vuln in url x param y", you'll actually find it and fix it quickly.
[15:07:51] <Leebert> we've gotten to the point where we insist on diffs when devs tell us they fixed something.
[15:08:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. most things we don't need to validate on account of sqlQuote being used pretty much everywhere but that which we do, we validate.
[15:08:33] <Leebert> We use AppScan for the bulk of testing. AppScan does tests for xss by inserting scripts with just a simple alert() call...
[15:09:02] <Leebert> We found that devs were often "fixing" the problem by searching parameters for the string "alert"
[15:09:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> user input for us is generally just going directly into the db.
[15:09:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[15:09:35] <Leebert> So it's obvious that our problem is that we aren't "agile"...
[15:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure it is. agile means never having to stop and do testing because it would hold things up
[15:10:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> least in my experience
[15:11:39] <juggs> "release often, fix it later" isn't it?
[15:11:58] <paulej72> let the lusers test
[15:12:05] <Leebert> We shall see. I'm still pondering a banner over my cube that says something like: "Be Agile: Write Better Vulnerabilities Quicker" or somesuch.
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[15:15:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, we basically are letting the lusers test the filters rework. I found all I could and Bytram hasn't found me any new ones lately, so the lusers can find/report the bugs.
[15:17:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> there are bound to be some in edge cases but damned if i can find them.
[15:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ye gads, i forgot how to redirect a user back to the location they just came from. now i have to dump $form and sift through it.
[16:13:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> TheMightyBuzzard: JavaScript's document.referrer?
[16:14:04] * TheMightyBuzzard smacks AndyTheAbsurd
[16:15:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> a) javascript is a no-go if it's important to site functionality b) from within perl
[16:15:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> well, here, I'll give you a better laugh this time:
[16:15:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> http://www.theguardian.com
[16:15:51] <NetCraft> ^ 03Stephen Hawking: I'd love to play a Bond baddie | Film | The Guardian
[16:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that'll work. think i'm done for the day anyway. got undoing spam moderation partially working and a good start on user moderation banning
[16:37:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... fishin forecast looks to be good for the next few hours. i may have to head out and prove it wrong.
[16:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'll wait till the weekend. only a couple days off.
[16:49:13] <Leebert> See, to the extent I ever go fishing, golfing, camping, whatever, I like to do it on weekdays when no one else is around.
[16:51:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Latest Sony Hack Sends Ripple of Dread Across Hollywood - http://sylnt.us - there-is-no-bad-publicity
[16:54:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, it's winter-ish here now though so I pretty much have the dock to myself anyway.
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[19:00:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Germany's Largest Utility Gets out of the Fossil Fuel Business - http://sylnt.us - moving-into-the-future
[19:39:16] <crutchy> ++coffee
[19:39:16] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 127
[19:39:41] <juggs> ~g'day crutchy
[19:39:42] * exec brazenly blows a bucket of beer at crutchy
[19:39:53] <crutchy> hi juggs
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[20:19:35] <JamesNZ> Moin' TheMightyBuzzard \o
[20:19:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> afternoon
[20:20:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> good nap
[20:47:30] <crutchy> ++coffee
[20:47:30] <NetCraft> Karma - coffee: 128
[20:48:17] <swiss> JamesNZ: are we going to try to control the ++coffee? or should we just let it go?
[20:48:46] <JamesNZ> swiss: crutchy has sabotaged that path :P
[20:48:57] <crutchy> i have?
[20:49:02] <JamesNZ> --coffee
[20:49:02] <NetCraft> Karma - tea: 14
[20:49:10] <JamesNZ> Proof!
[20:49:13] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:49:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9896
[20:49:13] <crutchy> oh yeah
[20:49:14] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[20:49:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9895
[20:49:18] <swiss> --coffee
[20:49:18] <NetCraft> Karma - tea: 15
[20:49:20] <swiss> :O
[20:49:21] <crutchy> that wasnt me though :p
[20:49:36] <JamesNZ> Now if only it was switched ;)
[20:49:43] <crutchy> its pretty farkin funny though
[20:49:58] <JamesNZ> Heh, yeah.
[20:50:04] <crutchy> hey at least it makes tea go up and not down :)
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[20:50:35] <JamesNZ> :)
[20:50:41] <JamesNZ> water++
[20:50:41] <Bender> karma - water: 19
[20:52:07] <crutchy> --tea
[20:52:07] <NetCraft> Karma - tea: 14
[20:52:10] <crutchy> hmm
[20:52:13] <crutchy> ++tea
[20:52:13] <NetCraft> Karma - tea: 15
[20:53:19] <crutchy> bender: todo for chromas, make --tea up coffee instead (to be fair to the tea conspirators :p)
[20:54:16] <crutchy> ooh thunder
[21:00:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pizza Hut Tests New “Subconscious Menu” That Reads Your Mind - http://sylnt.us - gateway-to-the-stomach
[21:05:40] <crutchy> ^ need more stories like this. not for substance, but to see what comes up in the comments :D
[21:07:10] <crutchy> time-- # cos i really can't be fcuked going to work but it's already time to leave :/
[21:07:10] <Bender> karma - time: -1
[21:08:41] <JamesNZ> :P
[21:16:42] <xar> on a scale of 1-10, how bad is NYC going to riot? -_-
[21:16:49] <swiss> please let it be a 10
[21:17:46] <xar> like, I can't even.
[21:18:41] <xar> the murder is on video. ugh. what planet am I living on.
[21:19:06] <JamesNZ> What murder?
[21:19:49] <juggs> eep - who killerised who this time?
[21:20:12] <xar> an NYC police officer put a civilian in a choke hold and killed him. it's all on video. grand jury cleared him earlier today of all charges.
[21:21:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> xar, was the civ black? no riots if they're not black.
[21:21:11] <JamesNZ> Yikes :| Did the civilian attack the officer or something?
[21:22:16] <xar> no, also, there were FIVE police officers tackling him
[21:22:43] <xar> it's so absolutely excessive, it's incredible.
[21:22:46] <xar> TheMightyBuzzard: yup, black
[21:23:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly just roll in into the riots already going on then
[21:23:11] <JamesNZ> That does sound excessive.
[21:24:06] <mythterj> Just a correction: Grand Jurys do not CLEAR anyone of charges, they just choose not to indite.
[21:24:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> or nothing could happen if the race baiters haven't been around stirring up everyone.
[21:25:18] <xar> on the video, the poor guys tells police he can't breathe several times; ignored. :\
[21:27:39] <juggs> brutal way to go out :-/
[21:30:35] <xar> im astonished, as this incident, we have clear video, what exactly does it take to get police in trouble?
[21:31:25] <xar> good luck installing body cameras if they serve no purpose
[21:34:04] <xar> I think the video quality wasn't good enough, we need 4K ultra HD video from multiple angles obviously
[21:36:32] <ar> http://www.reddit.com
[21:36:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03kalda341 comments on I'm Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel developer, AMA!
[21:38:53] <JamesNZ> SoySSL!
[22:00:17] <swiss> whoever wrote the "Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 3c on CPU 0." kernel message needs to get punched in the face
[22:00:32] <swiss> especially when it was followed with "Do you have a strange power saving mode enabled?
[22:00:41] <swiss> and "Dazed and confused, but trying to continue"
[22:00:52] <swiss> freaked me out yo, thought my kernel was becoming sentient
[22:01:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> my error messages generally contain the substring WTF
[22:01:53] <JamesNZ> Classy.
[22:02:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> any code without cursing in it was written by a student
[22:03:10] * JamesNZ can provide counter-examples
[22:04:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything truly awesome will frustrate while being built and thus contain swearing
[22:04:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> grep the kernel source sometime
[22:07:11] * mrcoolbp swears
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[22:22:59] <swiss> I need a "In case of artificial consiousness" crowbar
[22:30:06] <mrcoolbp> NCommander
[22:30:09] <mrcoolbp> oops
[22:30:13] <mrcoolbp> wrong channel = )
[22:30:19] <mrcoolbp> HI everybody!
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[22:32:23] <alberto> sup all
[22:32:24] <alberto> :D
[22:33:15] <mrcoolbp> ehlo
[22:33:23] <alberto> how are you sr cool
[22:33:50] <alberto> s/sr cool/cool sr
[22:33:50] * sedctl offers olbyrto a /
[22:33:55] <alberto> s/sr cool/cool sr/
[22:33:55] <sedctl> <ilbyrto> how are you cool sr
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[23:46:54] <Leebert> *snicker* $boss is SO bad at realizing that he's been bcc'ed on an e-mail.
[23:47:27] <Leebert> Just blew the cover on a co-worker who bcc'ed an e-mail thread with me to him.