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[00:17:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Dang, I got that workers bill of rights conversation really going
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[00:19:12] <juggs> you certainly expressed your position on the matter :D
[00:20:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Damage to Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport Less Than US$20M - http://sylnt.us - almost-sounds-cheap
[00:23:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. mostly cause i don't like seeing groupthink of any kind prevailing.
[00:24:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> people at their most stupid and most dangerous when they think alike.
[00:25:58] <juggs> before we know it we'll have a riot on our hands!
[00:27:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> love me a good riot.
[00:28:34] <juggs> can't say I ever have. Can;t imagine it being fun when the pepper spray and rubber bullet bunch show up :-/
[00:28:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> I should probably eat something but i'm still not hungry from yesterday.
[00:29:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure it is. saves you having to bring your own.
[00:30:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> just remember: Fight the power not the jewelry store.
[00:40:27] <juggs> I'll take your word on it
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[01:18:38] * SpallsHurgenson pushes through a sugar-crash
[01:20:44] <arti> play some candy crush?
[01:21:39] <SpallsHurgenson> nah, just sleepy :)
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[01:40:05] <crutchy> coffee++
[01:40:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9920
[01:40:18] <JamesNZ> ~gday crutchy
[01:40:32] <crutchy> ++coffee
[01:40:32] <NetCruft> Karma - coffee: 76
[01:40:33] <juggs> hola everyone o/
[01:40:39] <JamesNZ> Hey juggs \o
[01:40:43] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:40:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9919
[01:40:43] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[01:40:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9918
[01:40:50] <SpallsHurgenson> hmmm
[01:40:57] <SpallsHurgenson> --coffee--
[01:40:57] <NetCruft> Karma - coffee--: -1
[01:41:05] * SpallsHurgenson tries to get two bots at once :)
[01:41:18] * SpallsHurgenson is saddened - but not surprised - that it doesn't work
[01:41:43] <SpallsHurgenson> oooh, favorite song! Must sing! Everybody cover your ears!
[01:41:48] <SpallsHurgenson> THUNDER!
[01:41:52] <SpallsHurgenson> THUNDER!
[01:41:55] <SpallsHurgenson> THUNDER!
[01:41:59] <SpallsHurgenson> THUNDER!
[01:42:05] <juggs> thunderstruck?
[01:42:13] <chromas> thunderbutt
[01:42:21] <crutchy> thunderc*nt?
[01:42:24] <SpallsHurgenson> I was caught in the middle of a railroad track I looked round and knew there was no turning back
[01:42:27] <juggs> blunderbuss
[01:42:36] <SpallsHurgenson> My mind raced and I thought waht could I do
[01:42:46] <chromas> crutchy: s/\*/a/
[01:42:46] <sedctl> <chromas> <crutchy> thundercant?
[01:42:47] <SpallsHurgenson> and I knew there was no help, no help from you
[01:42:52] <SpallsHurgenson> sound of the drums beating in my heart
[01:42:59] <SpallsHurgenson> the thunder of guns tgore me apart
[01:43:00] <JamesNZ> Thundersong?
[01:43:09] <SpallsHurgenson> you've been... THUNDERSTRUCK!
[01:43:10] <juggs> .quiet SpallsHurgenson #think of the children's ears!!
[01:43:16] <SpallsHurgenson> I'm done :)
[01:43:37] <juggs> eep - I thought the leading spaces would nerf that
[01:43:49] <chromas> it did
[01:43:53] <SpallsHurgenson> I can't keep up with the lyrics anyway :)
[01:44:06] <juggs> newp - the #comment nerfed it chromas
[01:44:09] <crutchy> thats cos its ozzie
[01:44:11] <SpallsHurgenson> I'll merely shout the lyrics and annoy the neighbors in rela life :)
[01:44:24] <chromas> .quiet test
[01:44:28] <chromas> ah; weird
[01:44:31] <crutchy> throw a possum at your neighbours' window
[01:44:33] <juggs> .quiet test
[01:44:33] -!- mode/#Soylent [+q test!*@*] by juggler
[01:44:35] <chromas> service_bots--
[01:44:35] <Bender> karma - service_bots: -1
[01:44:43] <juggs> .unquiet test
[01:44:56] <juggs> .unquiet test
[01:45:10] <juggs> .unquiet test!*@*
[01:45:10] -!- mode/#Soylent [-q test!*@*] by juggler
[01:45:15] <crutchy> chromas, but but... think about it... "service" bots
[01:45:19] * juggs rolls eyes
[01:45:30] * chromas soyvices tama
[01:50:15] NetCruft is now known as NutCraft
[01:52:29] <crutchy> botctl craft nuts
[01:53:29] <chromas> nutctl
[01:53:35] <chromas> bf nutwrench
[01:53:36] <juggs> is exec completely borked now crutchy ?
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[01:54:10] <crutchy> chromas is on the ball
[01:54:32] <chromas> +s
[01:54:46] <crutchy> hot_balls++
[01:54:46] <Bender> karma - hot_balls: 1
[01:55:45] * SpallsHurgenson yawns widely
[01:56:15] <crutchy> apparently 30% of victoria voted before voting day
[01:56:17] * chromas gives crutchy a hot karl
[01:56:36] <crutchy> maybe they voted to make the voting day earlier
[01:56:46] <SpallsHurgenson> vote early, vote often!
[01:57:41] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: s/v(o)t/c\1m/g
[01:57:41] <sedctl> <chromas> <SpallsHurgenson> come early, come often!
[01:58:04] <crutchy> most people vote for the lesser of two evils. i choose to vote for the candidate that i think would do a good job. unfortunately he/she is yet to appear on the ballot
[01:58:39] <SpallsHurgenson> countdown to somebody mention Cthulhu... 10...9... 8...
[02:00:14] <SpallsHurgenson> 2-1-.09-.08-.07...
[02:01:22] <juggs> 1
[02:01:22] <juggs> 2
[02:01:23] <juggs> 3
[02:01:23] <ciri> 3
[02:01:25] <ciri> 4
[02:01:27] <ciri> 5
[02:01:29] <ciri> 6
[02:01:31] <ciri> 7
[02:01:33] <ciri> 8
[02:01:35] <ciri> 9
[02:01:37] <juggs> \o/ ciri
[02:01:37] <ciri> 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:02:14] <juggs> 10
[02:02:15] <juggs> 9
[02:02:16] <juggs> 8
[02:02:39] <juggs> arti - ciri needs a countdown function too!
[02:08:49] <crutchy> arti, ciri needs fractional countdowns >;p
[02:10:58] * crutchy is thinking about trolling #debianfork @ freenode
[02:11:18] <crutchy> oops did i say "trolling" i meant contributing :D
[02:11:34] <juggs> ooh - let me get connected to watch the flamefest
[02:11:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Girls Better Than Boys at Making Story-Based Computer Games - http://sylnt.us - the-tangled-web-we-weave
[02:12:06] <crutchy> what would happen if i went in there and just said "systemd++"
[02:12:18] <crutchy> hmm surely someone would have already done that
[02:12:27] <chromas> crutchy: not all of them mind systemd
[02:12:46] <crutchy> wait, what!?@
[02:12:55] <chromas> the common theme seems to be butthurt@debian
[02:13:02] <SpallsHurgenson> that'd be a pretty pathetic troll anyway
[02:13:13] <chromas> yeah 'cause they don't got a karma bot
[02:13:14] <SpallsHurgenson> you gotta work up to that sort of thing
[02:13:15] <crutchy> there must be a boogieman though
[02:13:31] <juggs> I'm not sure it isn't just a channel full of bots just randomly saying things - there doesn't seem to be any actual discussion
[02:13:44] <chromas> crutchy: bust out some subtle trolling
[02:13:56] <crutchy> you can bet there's a few spy bots
[02:13:56] <SpallsHurgenson> first be all supportive... then make useful suggestions... then suggestions that add systemd-like functionality... THEN systemd++ :)
[02:14:02] <crutchy> lool
[02:14:23] <juggs> /me urges SpallsHurgenson into #debianfork
[02:14:29] <crutchy> or bust out the life of brian committee meeting protocol
[02:14:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> oi, no advocating subtlety. we don't do subtle around these parts.
[02:15:25] <crutchy> we should advocate juggs' right to have babies
[02:15:37] * crutchy offers juggs a gestation box
[02:15:45] <juggs> I don't already have that right?
[02:15:59] <crutchy> oh no. systemd is oppressing it
[02:16:12] <crutchy> bignosectl
[02:16:15] <juggs> systemd-oppressd
[02:16:20] <chromas> <warpzero> what the hell does policykit even do
[02:16:23] <chromas> lolctl
[02:16:37] <crutchy> it decides debian policy
[02:16:41] <crutchy> randomly
[02:17:05] <chromas> well it's funny they're bitching about stuff and they don't even know what it is
[02:17:08] <juggs> drama drama everywhere
[02:17:33] <crutchy> chromas, they don't believe in dependencies
[02:17:48] <chromas> Well then that's even more like windows
[02:17:48] <crutchy> understanding shouldn't be a dependency of bitching
[02:18:57] <crutchy> we need feed between there and here
[02:19:26] <chromas> a relaybot?
[02:19:30] <crutchy> yeah
[02:19:32] <chromas> (in a new channel of course)
[02:19:35] <crutchy> is that 'legal'?
[02:19:47] <chromas> I dunno; I'd turn off pubic logging though
[02:20:03] <crutchy> i don't want any bots logging my pubes
[02:20:54] <chromas> Loggie touches our pubes
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[02:21:19] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHHAHAHAH
[02:21:31] <crutchy> loggie is a mute except to remind us he has his own website
[02:21:32] <chromas> "We don't need dbus, we can just use sockets!"
[02:21:38] <chromas> (ignores that dbus uses sockets)
[02:21:40] <Ethanol-fueled> A=440 Hertz is a powerful tool against fuckheads.
[02:21:52] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, chromas, pleased to see you
[02:21:58] <chromas> what up, Ethanol-fueled
[02:22:05] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled, just tell them the unit is 1/sec
[02:22:23] <juggs> Bender still has the channel relay function bot thing we used for freenode SN
[02:22:29] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: it happens to penetrate walls rather nicely.
[02:22:36] <juggs> why would we want that though?
[02:23:33] <chromas> juggs: so we can all laugh
[02:23:41] <chromas> someone thinks dbus uses xml
[02:23:47] <crutchy> dbus--
[02:23:47] <Bender> karma - dbus: -2
[02:24:12] <Ethanol-fueled> xml is Microsofting the whole thing....back in the day, those were called "config files"
[02:24:16] <juggs> I cba setting it up
[02:24:16] <crutchy> actually i think gedit uses dbus (for some strange reason)
[02:24:20] <crutchy> dbus++
[02:24:20] <Bender> karma - dbus: -1
[02:24:22] <crutchy> gedit++
[02:24:22] <Bender> karma - gedit: 12
[02:24:31] <juggs> Bender is spaghetti behind the scenes
[02:24:58] <crutchy> that's just cos he's python
[02:25:00] <chromas> poor Bender
[02:25:01] <crutchy> very snakey
[02:25:21] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, isn't all your work PHP?
[02:25:36] <chromas> python is the lovechild of php and pascal :)
[02:25:44] <crutchy> mostly (and a bit of delphi still)
[02:25:51] <crutchy> bender is python
[02:26:07] <chromas> Bender seems to be a vagrant; his site is missing
[02:26:16] * Ethanol-fueled has a feeling a lot of Python's magical bullshit came from Perl
[02:26:19] <chromas> but I think there's a project on github for it
[02:26:27] <Ethanol-fueled> the inspiration, at least.
[02:26:39] <crutchy> i think php may have come from perl
[02:26:49] <crutchy> cant remember
[02:27:32] <Ethanol-fueled> PHP came from my momma's asshole
[02:27:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Uglist goddamn language a man will ever see.
[02:28:07] <Ethanol-fueled> butt hairs radiating out in a star pattern.
[02:28:10] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: shouldn't that be python?
[02:28:10] <crutchy> http://www.youtube.com
[02:28:11] <NutCraft> ^ 03PHP vs. Python vs. Ruby vs. Java vs. .NET - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[02:28:14] <chromas> extruding out a snake
[02:29:10] <juggs> Ethanol-fueled, something like this? http://stats.sylnt.us
[02:29:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Python is for sloppy scientific coders like bioinformaticists and shit.
[02:30:02] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, that's a rudimentary structure in any language
[02:30:18] <juggs> feel free to devise something better :D
[02:30:53] <crutchy> dotty_plotty++
[02:30:53] <Bender> karma - dotty_plotty: 1
[02:31:26] <crutchy> php's gd kicks ass
[02:31:30] <Ethanol-fueled> one different idea would be to weight the edges proportional to the maximum within a given rate rather than the overall magnitude.
[02:31:52] <crutchy> need to draw them with flames coming out
[02:31:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Uh, did that sound scientific? I'm drunk, you see.
[02:32:11] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, flames.
[02:32:29] <crutchy> ima science stuff dude :D
[02:32:44] <Ethanol-fueled> picking out a subset of positive and negative words to establish good or bad standing with the character
[02:32:51] <crutchy> better make them bunsen burner flames
[02:33:03] <juggs> Eth - feel free to hack on it if your Java is up to it http://www.jibble.org
[02:33:04] <NutCraft> ^ 03PieSpy - Inferring and Visualizing Social Network on IRC
[02:33:45] <crutchy> ooh eth, aren't you doin java in your software faggery course?
[02:34:10] <juggs> When things start getting into force models using spring embedder force models - I kinda glaze over.
[02:34:45] <crutchy> i get paid to do maths shit so i try hard to avoid it at home
[02:35:53] <juggs> understandable
[02:35:57] <crutchy> 12 months ago i might've had a crack at it
[02:36:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Damn, juggs, that is actually pretty awesome.
[02:36:31] <Ethanol-fueled> If I wasn't bogged down with work and drinking, I would be balls-deep innit.
[02:36:36] <crutchy> does it sound like something you'd be into eth?
[02:36:39] <crutchy> ah
[02:37:03] <crutchy> lolo balls deep init
[02:37:09] <crutchy> ballsdeepctl
[02:37:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Hells yes, crutchy.
[02:37:20] <juggs> If you say so - I get about half way through their description of how it does what it does and read a couple of the ref'd papers and I'm tapped out - I don;t feel qualified to "improve" what they have done.
[02:37:36] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm on schedule to join the team around mid-spring next year
[02:37:47] <crutchy> awesome
[02:37:50] <juggs> FSM help us
[02:37:50] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled++
[02:38:05] <crutchy> ~define FSM
[02:38:06] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3FSM: Flying Spaghetti Monster
[02:38:10] <crutchy> ¿
[02:38:22] <juggs> TMB + Eth - I wonder how this dynamic will work out :D
[02:38:31] <Ethanol-fueled> When I do, Ethanol-fueled will cease all activity, and a Tor-using pseudonym will approach SN with an opportunity of indentured servitude in exchange for an "A" in a required class.
[02:38:44] <juggs> crutchy, just put a colander on ya head, it'll be alright
[02:38:44] <crutchy> alcoholic fish slapping
[02:39:10] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, I like Buzzard. When I had the community torn in half, Buzzard called things for what they were.
[02:39:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut? i was watchin tv.
[02:39:48] <juggs> Just saying it's all your fault Buzzsaw
[02:39:52] <SpallsHurgenson> eeep, TMB! quick, everybody look innocent!
[02:39:53] <crutchy> heh. comment feed is spewing out 2 days of comments :/
[02:39:55] <Ethanol-fueled> ButtZard
[02:40:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, i thought we'd all decided it was Bytram's fault.
[02:40:19] <crutchy> on yeah thats a given
[02:40:26] <juggs> oh shit - I need to read my memos again
[02:40:26] <crutchy> qa guys are always to blame
[02:41:08] <crutchy> "dammit there wouldn't be any more bugs if you guys didn't keep finding them!"
[02:41:18] <SpallsHurgenson> I fixed my cricket fan today. now I miss the noise :(:
[02:42:00] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, that's why they gotta pay us on a per-bug basis :)
[02:42:31] <SpallsHurgenson> damn quiet computer... how am I supposed to stay awake?
[02:43:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> get a real fan and overclock
[02:43:45] <SpallsHurgenson> I overclocked once. it took three fire departments to put out the blaze. I've learned my lesson since then :)
[02:44:05] <Ethanol-fueled> overclocking is for late '90s era teens
[02:44:23] <Ethanol-fueled> when you had to set hardware jumpers to do it.
[02:45:02] <juggs> rack full of GPUs mining dustcoins will keep you awake (and warm) Spalls
[02:45:34] <SpallsHurgenson> juggs: sounds good; I'm accepting donations for the build :)
[02:46:08] <SpallsHurgenson> pay 50% and I'll name one of the computers after you :)
[02:46:11] * chromas donates a 286 to SpallsHurgenson
[02:46:53] * crutchy donates 400TB
[02:48:41] <Ethanol-fueled> I just ejected my neighbor from his apartment usins sonic warfare. Now I want to get more to drink.
[02:48:45] <crutchy> juggs, we need more sticks ans dots on our thingy
[02:48:59] <juggs> sounds like an STD crutchy :-/
[02:49:01] <crutchy> like the example on the website
[02:49:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I also reconnected the DVD-drive, as the cable had apparently wiggled loose at some point and I never noticed (who uses optical drives anymore?)
[02:49:20] <juggs> crutchy, I'll pastebin the config
[02:49:57] <crutchy> itll prolly b chinese to me :p
[02:51:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya know, we need a way to differentiate ACs.
[02:52:08] <chromas> yeah, like a short hash string or something
[02:52:13] <chromas> they can reset it whenever they want
[02:52:32] <chromas> and it can be different per story too
[02:52:32] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas, what's the point if it can be reset?
[02:52:58] * SpallsHurgenson thinks anonymous cowards should be allowed to be anonymous
[02:52:59] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: they can be anon but we can still tell them apart if they want us to
[02:53:24] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas - but are they anon after they are marked with that string?
[02:53:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya no resets but maybe 1 indexed on a per-story basis.
[02:54:00] <chromas> it's only for the post and when they reset it, the string is no longer associated with their cookie
[02:54:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> cookie, schmookie. i was gonna base it on their ipid and user-agent string.
[02:54:47] <Ethanol-fueled> user-agent string. Now that's evil.
[02:55:01] <juggs> crutchy, http://paste.ofcode.org
[02:55:01] <NutCraft> ^ 03Paste ofCode
[02:55:09] <chromas> yeah, do a crc32 of those + the story id or something
[02:55:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> something like, yep
[02:55:32] <SpallsHurgenson> what's the point of all that?
[02:55:41] <Ethanol-fueled> Well, not really. The smart ones spoof/randomize convincingly the string.
[02:55:41] <juggs> Think the TemporalDecayAmount is the only relevant to retain more dots on the plot
[02:56:14] <juggs> But really - the whole thing is greek to me
[02:56:41] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs: try setting TemporalDecayAmount to 0
[02:57:17] <juggs> I might as well set it to 11
[02:57:36] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: it's a way to keep track of which anon your talking to so they don't have to "I'm the above anon and blah" or whatever, yet they still don't need an account
[02:57:37] <juggs> I've no idea what it actually does without flogging through the code
[02:58:20] <Ethanol-fueled> and flogging the maintainers for using PascalCase
[02:58:28] <juggs> I have a feeling the TemporalDecayAmount determines how quickly nodes drift away from each other when there is no contact between them in channel, but that's just speculation
[02:58:35] <SpallsHurgenson> I think the benefits are far outweighed by the disadvantages; anonymous posting is one of strengths of the community
[02:59:10] <SpallsHurgenson> it's not worth losing that for the few times an AC has to identify himself as the same AC who posted earlier
[02:59:13] <chromas> it's still anonymous
[02:59:14] <crutchy> seems like TemporalDecayAmount and SpringEmbedderIterations are the magic numbers
[02:59:22] <chromas> or mostly anonymous
[02:59:30] <SpallsHurgenson> which I've seen maybe twice in ten years of reading /.
[02:59:35] <crutchy> except when APK posts AC
[02:59:44] <chromas> does he still post?
[02:59:48] <juggs> If I even knew what a Spring Embedder was I may have a clue on where to tweak
[02:59:53] <Ethanol-fueled> APK must be one of you
[02:59:57] <juggs> I has tp read more
[02:59:59] <juggs> to*
[03:00:07] <crutchy> looks like some kind of physics analog
[03:00:27] <Ethanol-fueled> directed graph
[03:00:28] <crutchy> C is the damping coefficient and K is the stiffness maybe?
[03:00:49] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy, then how do we solve that system of springs?
[03:01:07] <Ethanol-fueled> by DRINKING BOOZE, that's how.
[03:01:16] <crutchy> i'll second that
[03:01:44] <crutchy> state space sytems of equations prolly require a lot of booze
[03:02:04] <juggs> hmm - I feel a car suspension analogy coming on - if C is damping, K is spring stiffness - what is the rebound setting?
[03:02:09] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy - or perhaps a directed bidirectional graph
[03:02:21] <crutchy> juggs, you need a fooly sick subwoofer for that
[03:03:10] * juggs whacks crutchy - just no. Additional weight for no purpose.
[03:04:20] <juggs> unless annoying people and rattling the windows is considered a purpose
[03:06:06] <Ethanol-fueled> GUNS rattle the purpose
[03:06:12] <Ethanol-fueled> ask Michael Brown
[03:06:18] <Ethanol-fueled> HahahheeheehOOOOOOO!
[03:08:37] <Ethanol-fueled> man, I;m mega-wasted. I must keel over.
[03:08:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Goodiniight, all
[03:08:55] <Ethanol-fueled> I may be back for a surprise-attack]
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[03:09:22] <juggs> bit early to be keeling over
[03:10:20] <SpallsHurgenson> the whole point of a keel is to keep from tipping over :)
[03:11:10] <juggs> true - although I suspect the term "keel over" refers to a boat capsizing
[03:11:46] * SpallsHurgenson wikis "keel" and realizes he is talking about hydrodynamic keels, not structural keels
[03:12:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> Anyway, I think it'd be an interesting idea if done on a per-story basis. Might do a write-up after the January update and see what folks think.
[03:13:12] <juggs> well that wiki entry is interesting
[03:13:34] <SpallsHurgenson> quick, close that tab before you get caught in a wiki-walk!
[03:15:13] <juggs> In any case, whatever the keel is for, in a keel over situation shit's gone bad.
[03:15:39] * SpallsHurgenson still isn't quite sure why we are talking about keels anyway :)
[03:16:03] <juggs> because Eth declared "I must keel over"
[03:17:10] <SpallsHurgenson> ah. I don't see that sort of stuff.
[03:17:24] <juggs> you have EF on ignore?
[03:17:39] <SpallsHurgenson> it seemed sensible :)
[03:17:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> really only necessary at night for the most part
[03:18:29] <SpallsHurgenson> well, seeing as I'm only here at night... :)
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[03:23:54] <juggs> TMB kicks him out when he gets out of hand, seems his tolerance level is lower than mine these days
[03:25:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> <--- crabby old bastard
[03:28:52] * SpallsHurgenson hands TMB a little comb to help with his crabbiness
[03:29:05] <juggs> nah, there has to come a point in an official site channel where nonsensical abusive rambling gets booted out. No-one will ever agree where that point is though.
[03:30:35] <juggs> Unless as a community we want to say "Heh - no moderation here, do as you please" - I'd quite like that option as it's less work :D
[03:30:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i generally let him go if he's just tossing one out now and then. it's when he gets on a roll that he gotta go.
[03:31:46] * SpallsHurgenson tries to decide on a movie to watch
[03:32:30] <idetuxs> you're conspiring against me! HUh?!
[03:32:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> were we? sweet.
[03:33:00] * idetuxs says nonsensical rambling
[03:33:17] <idetuxs> yeah, I know you were, I'm no fool
[03:33:24] <idetuxs> xP
[03:33:25] <Konomi> totally we're planning your eventually down fall as you type
[03:33:55] <idetuxs> Goliat can't fall bi7ches
[03:33:57] <crutchy> .poke Konomi
[03:33:58] * exec pokes Konomi
[03:34:07] <Konomi> oh hey that acutally works today ;p
[03:34:20] <idetuxs> how are you folks? crutchy g'day
[03:34:21] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[03:34:22] <NutCraft> ^ 0311 Months, 3000 pictures and a lot of coffee. - YouTube
[03:34:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, Konomi's building her rodent army as we speak
[03:34:26] <Konomi> bet some car nuts will like this
[03:34:33] <idetuxs> that poke is cool haha
[03:34:53] <crutchy> ah oh it must be tits if car nuts like it
[03:35:11] <juggs> hehe, I'm sticking my oar in on #debianfork
[03:35:15] <idetuxs> drooling for some coffee
[03:35:34] * crutchy connects to freenode
[03:35:54] <crutchy> shit i gotta find my login email
[03:36:27] <juggs> it's not that interesting, I'm just dropping questions on the most ardent
[03:36:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[03:36:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9919
[03:37:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> was kinda nifty. i haven't torn down an engine in ages.
[03:39:38] <crutchy> xchat++ # cos i didn't need to remember anything :D
[03:39:38] <Bender> karma - xchat: 5
[03:40:19] <chromas> yeah everyone's kind of talking at and over each other all in one channel; makes it hard to track
[03:40:39] <juggs> hehe
[03:40:39] <crutchy> maybe we need to throw tama in there :D
[03:40:44] <juggs> YAH!
[03:40:55] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com
[03:40:55] <NutCraft> ^ 03Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Teaser - YouTube
[03:40:59] <Konomi> yuck
[03:40:59] <juggs> tama and ciri - tag team the channel
[03:41:47] <crutchy> so tama, what is your opinion on dbus? tama: gives ciri a tama lama ding dong bong
[03:42:32] <crutchy> who likes systemd? tama: yo mama likes systemd!
[03:43:26] <SpallsHurgenson> I want a life-size model of the Millenium Falcon
[03:44:22] <Konomi> J J Abrams, must make shit so edgey that it cuts you twice
[03:44:49] <SpallsHurgenson> I was underwhelmed by the trailer
[03:44:53] <crutchy> ooh i commented in #debianfork
[03:45:08] * crutchy has earned his dissenter's badge?
[03:45:08] <Konomi> SpallsHurgenson: Star Wars Into Darkness doop doop dopp
[03:45:24] <SpallsHurgenson> I was counting lens flares :)
[03:45:34] <chromas> juggs: we need the graph bot in there :D
[03:45:39] <juggs> my gawd it's ranter paradise in there from both sides of the fence
[03:45:52] <juggs> chromas - good call
[03:46:04] <Konomi> reminds me of this
[03:46:34] * juggs goes to replenish nicotine level before pulling stick bot into #debianfork
[03:47:47] <Konomi> http://i.minus.com
[03:47:55] <Konomi> is it like that in debianfork?
[03:50:01] <crutchy> Konomi, we're talking circles now
[03:50:06] <crutchy> its getting advanced
[03:50:07] <chromas> circles++
[03:50:07] <Bender> karma - circles: 1
[03:50:19] <crutchy> tama has its first mention :D
[03:50:22] <chromas> "it's not stupid, it's advanced!"
[03:51:46] <juggs> I should probably run #debianfork stickbot on my vps rather than SN resources right? :D
[03:51:50] <chromas> crutchy: it's actually mostly been circles since I went in a couple days ago
[03:51:58] <chromas> :)
[03:52:52] <idetuxs> can I lurk in #debianfork or it's not for that? freenode, right?
[03:53:12] <juggs> yah freenode idetuxs
[03:53:28] <chromas> feel free to stir things up :D
[03:53:34] <chromas> well, it's already pretty muddy now
[03:53:39] <idetuxs> ok, thanks. right back in a sec
[03:53:58] <idetuxs> I'm not that into technichal stuff of debian
[03:54:14] <chromas> most of them probably aren't either; that doesn't stop them from talking
[03:54:20] <idetuxs> hahaha
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[03:56:08] <crutchy> ah oh... SN is infecting #debianfork
[03:56:18] <Konomi> one of us one of us
[03:56:24] <idetuxs> hahaha
[03:56:53] <chromas> :D :D
[03:57:58] <chromas> now if we could get combat server in there to up the paranoia
[03:58:04] <chromas> combatserver
[03:58:15] <SpallsHurgenson> why be a bunch of poutines?
[03:58:25] <idetuxs> i have a feeling, like an intense desire to start trolling in #debianfork
[03:58:31] <idetuxs> Im struggling
[04:02:27] * SpallsHurgenson wants a life-sized model of the Death Star
[04:03:10] <chromas> put up a crowdfund thinger
[04:03:12] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, it must have staplers in it too
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[04:19:24] <crutchy> oh noes #debianfork is valuable bullshit resources from #soylent!
[04:19:31] <crutchy> *is sucking
[04:21:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Process Converts Human Waste into Rocket Fuel - http://sylnt.us - but-I-still-can't-say-his-name
[04:23:09] * SpallsHurgenson wants a life-sized model of Ringworld
[04:23:15] <chromas> isn't that called Taco Bell?
[04:23:35] <chromas> (not Ringworld but human waste rocket fuel)
[04:24:55] <chromas> crutchy++
[04:24:55] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 118
[04:25:00] <chromas> this is too fun
[04:32:14] <juggs> I can't imagine what StickyWicket might be
[04:32:21] * juggs strolls off whistling
[04:33:42] <chromas> sounds like smokeable drugs
[04:34:29] <SpallsHurgenson> sounds like something from a very uninteresting sport
[04:42:38] <crutchy> if you stick the wicket up your butthole it helps the bails stick better so its harder for the bowler to bowl you out
[04:42:42] <crutchy> honest :p
[04:42:55] <crutchy> ~define sticky wicket
[04:42:57] <exec> [urbandictionary] 3sticky wicket: A term that aludes to a situation in which a person is in trouble. Comes from cricket where on uncovered wickets after a short rainfall a pitch could dry into a 'sticky' which could make it ex...
[04:43:09] <crutchy> o.0
[04:43:19] <crutchy> nothing sexual?
[04:43:55] <SpallsHurgenson> isn't the wicket the field? that's usually not something that can be rectally inserted
[04:44:22] <chromas> so it is related to a boring sport :)
[04:45:53] * SpallsHurgenson wants a life-sized model of the Great Attractor
[04:47:58] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[04:47:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9918
[04:47:59] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[04:47:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9917
[04:58:01] <chromas> lol at the name
[04:58:02] <ciri> rofl
[04:58:18] <crutchy> SpallsHurgenson, if a trumpet can be rectally inserted, i'd say a pointy stick would definitely fit the bill... err the hole
[04:58:22] <chromas> StickyWicket++
[04:58:22] <Bender> karma - stickywicket: 1
[04:59:22] <chromas> oh yeah, is there link for stickywicket?
[05:00:49] <juggs> just doing the nginx conf now chromas
[05:00:55] <chromas> cool
[05:00:57] <chromas> juggs++
[05:00:57] <Bender> karma - juggs: 42
[05:01:16] <juggs> I'm firing on one cylinder thanks to beer overload
[05:01:49] <juggs> permissions start to do me head in after 3 beers
[05:01:52] <chromas> Oh what a tangled webby graph we weave, when first we practice to conceive
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[05:05:20] * juggs needs music
[05:05:53] <crutchy> #soylent has some stiff competition
[05:06:31] <crutchy> arti... can you introduce tama to #debianfork@freenode? pleeeeeeeze
[05:06:32] * juggs notes amp vol pot has gone crackly ~again~ I don't fancy replacing that
[05:07:01] <juggs> mpd++
[05:07:01] <Bender> karma - mpd: 5
[05:07:12] <juggs> qmpd++
[05:07:12] <Bender> karma - qmpd: 2
[05:07:49] <chromas> juggs: blame pulsewudio
[05:08:02] <chromas> I guess that's pulseaudio with a heavy accent
[05:08:20] <juggs> nah - this is oxidation on the pot causing issues. Not surprising for ancient amp
[05:09:06] <juggs> now where was I... oh yah, nginx
[05:14:15] <swiss> nginx++
[05:14:15] <Bender> karma - nginx: 0
[05:14:21] <swiss> who minus minused that!
[05:14:42] <chromas> apache
[05:15:03] <swiss> apachee--
[05:15:06] <swiss> apache--
[05:15:06] <Bender> karma - apache: -2
[05:15:09] <swiss> alcohol++
[05:15:09] <Bender> karma - alcohol: -3
[05:20:44] <chromas> I like the systemd genitald logo http://photos2.meetupstatic.com
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[05:31:14] <juggs> http://juggsdrobly.manichostingservices.co.uk
[05:31:25] <chromas> juggs++
[05:31:25] <Bender> karma - juggs: 43
[05:31:42] <chromas> It'll probably explode when they start talking over each other again
[05:32:27] <juggs> If someone wants to knock up something that allows walking through time I'll put it up
[05:33:24] <juggs> images get stored as debianfork-00000001.png debianfork-00000002.png etc. Probably just needs some simple JS to go back n forth
[05:34:31] <juggs> we could use it for #soylent sticks too
[05:36:21] <juggs> fuck me that was harder than it needed to be
[05:40:14] <chromas> one of the uselessd guys noticed our pimping of it :D
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[05:42:28] <juggs> should I drop the stick graph linkie in there?
[05:43:03] <chromas> dunno
[05:44:35] <juggs> teehee
[05:46:38] <juggs> nah, not going to drop it as piespy has no means to interact with nickserv, so can't identify, so can't be cloaked on freenode. I'll have to rip it's java guts out and put it as an add on to pircbot/
[05:47:02] <chromas> it's a soylent secret :D
[05:47:13] <chromas> thoylent theekwet
[05:47:14] <JamesNZ> violencectl rip guts
[05:49:14] <juggs> I wonder if I say "Epoch" enough there it will get it's own vehement fanbase that never actually used it too :D
[05:50:59] <chromas> :D
[05:55:30] <juggs> I might script "I quite like Epoch init" to drop at random times while I sleep
[05:55:52] <chromas> :)
[06:00:05] <juggs> lol I used "eco-sphere" as a word... ya, I should go hibernate
[06:00:38] <chromas> systemize their solutionables
[06:02:18] <juggs> heheh - I may be channelling RMS now
[06:02:29] * juggs nibbles toe cheese
[06:04:03] <JamesNZ> Tell use about the printer juggs!
[06:04:13] * JamesNZ listens expectantly
[06:05:15] <juggs> what printer?
[06:05:29] <juggs> I have a nice risograph if that is your thing?
[06:07:16] <JamesNZ> I mean the printer that didn't work :P
[06:07:32] <JamesNZ> https://www.gnu.org
[06:07:33] <NutCraft> ^ 03About the GNU Project- GNU Project - Free Software Foundation ( thegnuproject.html )
[06:09:37] <juggs> lol
[06:09:37] <ciri> hehehe
[06:11:23] <juggs> I'm just stirring over there JamesNZ - I don't have dog in the fight as I will have to be concerned about it in ~4 years time when upgrade cycle comes around
[06:12:07] <JamesNZ> Ah, heh.
[06:13:42] <chromas> yep, poking the beehive :D
[06:23:25] <juggs> rut-oh... uch, I'm going all tangential.
[06:24:59] <chromas> :)
[06:25:12] <chromas> poking his butthurt
[06:26:04] <juggs> I gotta dip out of there, I'm feeling arsey
[06:26:20] <chromas> If you stay in too long…
[06:26:28] <chromas> might catch the derp
[06:27:02] <chromas> hey, maybe they need NCommander
[06:27:25] * juggs closed out freenode bouncer
[06:27:59] <juggs> we need NCommander
[06:28:06] <chromas> we can start talking to you and them bitch that you're not listening :D
[06:28:15] <chromas> yeah :\
[06:28:33] <juggs> yep - I shall watch on sticky wicket
[06:30:36] <juggs> Defame me as a windows user or a COBOL programmer :D
[06:34:06] <juggs> chromas, you're on the outskirts of the sticky wicket, you need to address more comments directly.
[06:35:45] <juggs> as always crutchy is heading for a central position on the pitch
[06:38:23] * juggs needs funding to study the influence of $soc_media_nick on acceptance and dominance within a $soc_group
[06:38:48] <chromas> I like this comment by the dbus guy and I think it applies to systemd too
[06:38:56] <chromas> "Is there a simpler, less-engineered way? Probably, in the truism sense that all software sucks. But then, anyone could have coded this better way and made it work, and they didn't. So the current work has the advantage that somebody did it and it exists. I'll take that."
[06:40:41] <juggs> Has a point. No point bitching that X > Y when X doesn't exist and Y does.
[06:42:38] <chromas> it was on a hackernews thread re a guy didn't know what he's talking about wrote an article about how terrible dbus is
[06:43:16] <juggs> Which was kinda the point I was trying to make about convenience in binary distros to DocScrut. Dude doesn't want to compile, dude does want distro to do whaty suits
[06:43:29] <chromas> exactly
[06:43:36] <juggs> entitlement syndrome
[06:45:43] <crutchy> juggs, is stickywicket connected to here?
[06:50:26] <juggs> crutchy, nope - I have it on my vps. Didn't seem right to run it on SN resources
[06:52:45] <crutchy> maybe i should execerize #debianfork
[06:52:51] <crutchy> that would be scary
[06:53:35] <juggs> I think tama should go in there
[06:53:57] <crutchy> i think so too
[06:54:06] <juggs> make it so
[06:54:09] <juggs> :D
[06:54:10] <crutchy> it will revolutionize the place
[06:54:20] <crutchy> its in arti's hands now
[06:54:29] <crutchy> only he can save us from systemd
[06:56:33] * juggs loses track of who is which bot.... I think I'm engaged to set vhosts and kickban ppl from time to time - aka a useful idiot ~shrug~
[06:57:12] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:57:12] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9916
[06:57:13] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[06:57:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9915
[06:57:27] <juggs> DeepPurple++
[06:57:27] <Bender> karma - deeppurple: 1
[06:59:12] <juggs> If we had a sticky wicket on musical tastes... I'd be way over the horizon on the end of a very thin line probably attached very tenuously to EF and TMB,
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[07:00:34] <juggs> http://juggsdrobly.manichostingservices.co.uk no matter where crutchy is, he finds himself in the middle of things
[07:00:55] <crutchy> juggs did you hear about the aussie that got killed by a bouncer?
[07:01:02] <JamesNZ> crutchy++ # A born leader!
[07:01:02] <Bender> karma - crutchy: 119
[07:02:13] <juggs> crutchy, did he bouncer have a nationality too? or are all bouncers from bouncerland?
[07:03:07] <juggs> crutchy, bouncer uses excessive force - what's new.
[07:04:18] <crutchy> http://en.wikipedia.org
[07:04:18] <NutCraft> ^ 03Wiki: Phillip Hughes
[07:11:53] <juggs> who knew - sports involving hard coated balls travelling at 90mph++ can be dangerous?
[07:12:32] <crutchy> yeah... you tell you're cricket team that yo :p
[07:12:40] <crutchy> we're coming for yas
[07:13:44] <chromas> heh, I first read that as "hard-coded balls"
[07:13:46] <juggs> well I knew, having been a lacrosse freak - that ball will knock you on your ass - may look small, but fuck me it hurts
[07:13:53] <chromas> variable_balls++
[07:13:53] <Bender> karma - variable_balls: 1
[07:14:28] <juggs> we need to consider density here
[07:14:45] <chromas> balls need lead cores
[07:14:49] <chromas> but not coors
[07:19:53] <idetuxs> bye! o/
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[07:23:35] * juggs gifts chromas a lacrosse ball - it maybe small relatively but it is not full of air
[07:36:06] * juggs gart a
[07:36:13] <juggs> hmm
[07:38:04] <crutchy> juggs, i've infected their wiki now :p
[07:38:55] <crutchy> chromas, balls need the corrs
[07:38:58] <crutchy> they were hot
[07:51:41] <chromas> ~define the corrs
[07:51:46] <exec> [wikipedia] 3The_corrs: The Corrs are an Irish band that combine rock with traditional Celtic Irish folk themes within their music. The group consists of the Corr siblings, Andrea (lead vocals, tin whistle); Sharon (violin,...
[07:55:12] <crutchy> dude. you haven't heard of the corrs!?
[07:55:25] <chromas> nope
[07:55:51] <chromas> I wonder if they're on Pandora. I've been coming across different groups that were apparently popular in the 90s+ but I'd never heard of them
[07:55:55] <crutchy> youtube them. they have the sexiest singing voices
[07:56:13] <crutchy> they're an irish group
[07:57:45] <chromas> tama also has a sexy singing voice
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[08:32:54] <chromas> well, crutchy, we know at least some are sour pusses
[08:33:09] <chromas> they've got a little poutine in 'em
[08:33:14] <crutchy> there's at least a couple of poutines in there
[08:34:49] <crutchy> i've added the devuan github repos to our spy channel
[08:35:46] <chromas> heh, soon we'll need multiple spy channels :D
[08:36:51] <crutchy> i was wondering if i should make a #bitbucket channel, but atm there's only one repo in the list and i haven't finished it yet
[08:37:21] <crutchy> might look at it some more tonight. might be able to get basic push event functionality going
[08:39:55] <crutchy> got our first bites :D
[08:40:08] <crutchy> just issue events
[08:40:32] <chromas> need some commits ment
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[08:59:38] <crutchy> oh wow
[08:59:39] <crutchy> http://packages.gentoo.org
[08:59:40] <NutCraft> ^ 03Gentoo Packages /package/sys-apps/epoch
[09:00:31] <crutchy> i wonder if Subsentient knows there's a gentoo package maintainer for epoch
[09:00:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This American Life: ATF Agents - "Sloppy and Stupid", "Ineffective and Dangerous" - http://sylnt.us - Branch-Ira-Glass-iand
[09:00:55] <Subsentient> crutchy: Yes I do.
[09:01:01] <Subsentient> I talk with him from time to time
[09:01:04] <Subsentient> TomWij
[09:01:07] <chromas> cool
[09:01:58] <crutchy> Subsentient++
[09:01:58] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 16
[09:02:01] <crutchy> Subsentient++
[09:02:01] <Bender> karma - subsentient: 17
[09:04:13] <ar> http://i.imgur.com - really nice chicks with pussies ;)
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[09:04:59] <chromas> newoctl
[09:05:02] <chromas> s/n/m/
[09:05:02] <sedctl> <chromas> mewoctl
[09:05:03] <Nix\> he
[09:05:21] <chromas> hey, Nix\
[09:05:34] <Nix\> chromas: is just a ident.. I'm not using ircap.
[09:06:06] <Nix\> only clarified because I am ashamed
[09:10:03] <crutchy> g'day Nix\
[09:10:03] <ciri> hey whats up crutchy
[09:10:09] <crutchy> ciri, you're a homo
[09:10:19] <crutchy> and i love you :D
[09:10:34] <Nix\> hahah
[09:26:53] <crutchy> bit of issue discussion on devuan at least
[09:28:48] <crutchy> oh man someone's just carrying on about gh not being free or some shit
[09:29:39] <chromas> :(
[09:29:46] <chromas> yeah there were a few bitching about that
[09:30:15] <chromas> but the project decided it's fine for now and will be more available to people; they can change it layer
[09:30:28] <chromas> s/y/t/2
[09:30:28] <sedctl> <chromas> but the project decided it's fine for now and will be more available to people; they can change it later
[09:30:41] <crutchy> better fork github then :p
[09:30:49] <chromas> but dammit, I want choice! I don't want them choosing github for me!
[09:30:59] <chromas> There was consideration for uh, that thing you were talking about
[09:31:05] <chromas> private github-alike
[09:31:10] <crutchy> i'll see if i can get that bitbucket feed working
[09:31:24] <chromas> memory_failure--
[09:31:24] <Bender> karma - memory_failure: -1
[09:32:33] <chromas> gnu/soylent
[09:38:31] <crutchy> need a freenode sniffer
[09:40:44] <chromas> tsk tsk, crutchy
[09:40:54] <chromas> gnu/freenode systemd-snifferd
[09:41:14] <crutchy> maybe i'm using 'sniffer' in the wrong way
[09:41:18] <chromas> because underneath the ircd, there's gunoo underneath
[09:41:19] <crutchy> ~define irc sniffer
[09:41:32] <exec> [stoacademy] 3irc sniffer: IIRC - If I Recall Correctly
[09:41:40] <crutchy> stupid bot
[09:42:45] <chromas> it's like RedHatShill that says "information system" to anything it doesn't know
[09:43:03] <chromas> (bot on dark 'n' edgy, where uselessd dev hangs out)
[09:48:27] <ar> https://news.ycombinator.com
[09:48:28] <NutCraft> ^ 03Permissions asked for by Uber Android app | Hacker News
[09:49:48] <chromas> ~submitctl
[09:50:38] <crutchy> chromas, ~submit works but it's restricted and only submits to dev
[09:51:03] <crutchy> one of those potentially naughty scripts
[09:51:04] <chromas> the submission can refer back to the recent one about the Twitter application collecting info
[09:51:37] <chromas> the submissions definitely need a bit of massaging anyhow
[09:51:58] <chromas> need to take sentences out of context and change words so people can bitch about it :D
[09:53:10] <chromas> http://soylentnews.org
[09:53:11] <NutCraft> ^ 03SN article:  Twitter to Collect List of Other Apps on Devices 04(30 comments)
[09:53:30] <chromas> the uber article could link to that.
[09:53:35] <chromas> app-gate! oh noes!
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[10:10:21] <chromas> filelight++
[10:10:21] <Bender> karma - filelight: 1
[10:10:39] <Konomi> I prefer kdiskfree myself
[10:11:15] <chromas> does it give you nice circles?
[10:11:18] <chromas> soycles?
[10:11:49] <chromas> there's also a few like spacemonger that show nested blocks but I like the radial graph better
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[10:18:43] <chromas> systemd sure is nice
[10:18:46] <chromas> 😃😃
[10:19:02] <crutchy> dunno i haven't had the honour yet
[10:19:18] * crutchy is still a sysv pleb
[10:20:27] <chromas> Only thing is I haven't figured out which unit loads the virtualbox kernel module
[10:20:48] <crutchy> boxctl?
[10:21:14] <chromas> hah! there is a boxballoonctrl
[10:21:26] <chromas> vbox
[10:21:30] <chromas> missed copying the v
[10:22:52] <chromas> what a surprise, palemoon forgot I had open tabs
[10:24:14] <crutchy> zomg. the fucking bitbucket alias was opening the github script file :/
[10:24:18] <crutchy> ~rehash
[10:24:19] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (109 aliases)
[10:24:31] * crutchy facepalms
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[10:36:29] <crutchy> https://www.youtube.com
[10:36:30] <NutCraft> ^ 03The Corrs - What Can I Do [Official Video] - YouTube
[11:01:05] <crutchy> damn sleepiness
[11:03:42] <crutchy> ~rehash
[11:03:44] <exec> successfully reloaded exec file (109 aliases)
[11:03:50] <crutchy> ++coffee
[11:03:50] <NutCraft> Karma - coffee: 77
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[11:10:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jolla Tablet Crowdfunding Update: $1.3m and Counting - http://sylnt.us - Jolla-back
[11:11:38] <ar> anyone wants Kubuntu 6.06LTS? ;)
[11:12:00] <crutchy> nah
[11:12:11] <crutchy> im a debian
[11:12:23] <crutchy> ++xfce
[11:12:23] <NutCraft> Karma - xfce: 1
[11:24:53] <chromas> hm, for an xmas theme, we could use the chillax bear icon
[11:47:03] <Konomi> there goes firefox eating half of my cpu again
[11:47:20] <Konomi> also
[11:47:22] <Konomi> http://n-o-d-e.net
[11:47:23] <NutCraft> ^ 03N O D E
[11:47:26] <Konomi> looks cool
[11:49:56] <Konomi> like you know, iPads
[11:57:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:57:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9916
[12:24:01] <crutchy> Konomi, TheMightyBuzzard, we need to pilfer the CSS for n-o-d-e.net for SN :D
[12:24:08] <crutchy> fucking sweet
[12:24:48] <crutchy> just need to add sounds from the mother computer on the original alien movie
[12:25:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> what css, the only css is a font-face
[12:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, guess there is some embedded stuff at that
[12:26:14] <crutchy> if its easier than i thought all the better :)
[12:27:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> you wanna do up a theme like that, rock on with yer bad self. i got no prollem adding themes from folks what ain't me.
[12:27:17] <crutchy> http://n-o-d-e.net
[12:27:18] <NutCraft> ^ 03N O D E
[12:27:27] <crutchy> BitOS seems interesting
[12:27:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmm
[12:28:00] <crutchy> i might have a look at it tomoz
[12:28:07] <crutchy> if i'm not feeling to lazy
[12:29:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> grab the nightmode css off github and edit it to something like n-o-d-e prolly be easiest.
[12:29:46] <crutchy> i made up some templates a while ago with just things like:
[12:29:47] <crutchy> body
[12:29:48] <crutchy> {
[12:29:50] <crutchy> /* put stuff here */
[12:29:52] <crutchy> }
[12:30:22] <crutchy> but with all the SN-specific ids and classes as well
[12:30:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[12:30:46] <crutchy> pretty much copied from existing theme but style data deleted out
[12:30:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[12:36:27] <crutchy> heh. i've got a background color with monospace courier font :p
[12:36:41] <crutchy> bed time now though
[12:36:43] <crutchy> cyas
[12:37:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite
[13:05:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> bacon pancakes, makin bacon pancakes, take some bacon and I'll put it in a pancake
[13:07:07] <chromas> put 'em in the oven
[13:07:14] <chromas> bakin' bacon pancakes
[13:09:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[13:09:21] <NutCraft> ^ 03Makin' Bacon Pancakes 10 HOUR VERSION! - YouTube
[13:10:23] <chromas> How do they get ten-hour videos on there?
[13:10:29] <chromas> with the ten-minute limit
[13:10:47] <chromas> do they hack the gibson?
[13:12:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me
[13:13:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly the same way they put hour n a half full movies on there
[13:22:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Regin, Sophisticated Windows Malware Possibly Created by Nation State - http://sylnt.us - its-only-illegal-if-we-do-it
[13:37:39] <ar> http://arachnist.is-a.cat
[13:40:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> strange
[13:55:08] <chromas> Jesus
[13:55:15] <Konomi> lol
[13:55:44] <chromas> Oh 'cause the new movie has that laser hilt
[13:58:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i ain't watched the trailer. a year out is too early to be playing trailers
[14:03:50] <chromas> Well, let me spoil it for you: it has spherical robots
[14:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> not even sure i wanna watch another jj abrams movie after he fucked up trek so bad.
[14:04:43] <chromas> Which is nice. Much better than shoehorning in other robots just because they're familiar
[14:05:57] <chromas> Yeah but isn't his style made for wars? There's nothing technical or sciencey in it; it's more characters and settings or whatever I read from someone else
[14:06:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> no. his style is made for transformers movies that i don't wanna watch.
[14:06:51] <chromas> Actually, Lucas should to star trek
[14:07:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's a slightly polished michael bay
[14:07:26] <chromas> All still cameras with people standing around, taking a few steps then sitting down
[14:08:18] <chromas> Though the story writing is that of a five-year-old
[14:08:45] <chromas> Lucas--
[14:08:45] <Bender> karma - lucas: -1
[14:10:16] <ar> well, it could always be worse
[14:10:27] <ar> it might've been a new Michael Bay movie
[14:12:41] <chromas> splosions without the lens flare
[14:13:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, lense flare makes it classy
[14:14:13] <chromas> Either way it's still going to be better than Lucas
[14:55:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll reboot to winders n play some video games what aren't minecraft for a bit
[14:55:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> !pissoff
[14:55:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, right...
[14:55:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;pissoff
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[15:31:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hacking Hard Drive Firmware - http://sylnt.us - old-school-hacking
[15:54:24] <ar> https://www.youtube.com
[15:54:25] <NutCraft> ^ 03ACM CHI+GI 1987 Issue 33 - Siemens RTL tiled window system/manager - YouTube
[16:05:45] <Konomi> https://imgur.com
[16:05:45] <NutCraft> ^ 03PI Bricks - Imgur
[16:07:35] * SirFinkus just learned that the terrible cg band Lucas added in Jedi are reffered to as "jizz-wailers"
[16:08:04] <Konomi> they just get their jizz everywhere
[16:08:18] <Konomi> nograb
[16:08:21] * Konomi fews
[16:10:58] <SirFinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[16:10:59] <NutCraft> ^ 03Star Wars- Jedi rocks - YouTube
[16:11:13] <SirFinkus> just reminding everyone how terrible Lucas is
[16:14:52] <Konomi> I have the originals he cna never change them ~
[16:14:55] <SirFinkus> that one isn't quite as bad as adding the gungans to the end of jedi though
[16:15:26] <SirFinkus> if he hadn't done that, I could at least pretend the prequels never happened
[16:16:07] <SirFinkus> at least we won that battle, this is a lucas quote ""Why would I make any more,... when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?"
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[16:36:10] <Konomi> http://www.polygon.com
[16:36:11] <NutCraft> ^ 03Gaming in Dhaka | Photo Essay | Polygon
[16:36:12] <Konomi> makes me sad x.x
[16:43:06] <SirFinkus> oh neat, it's snowing
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[17:41:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jennifer A. Lewis Named Foreign Policy Global Thinker. - http://sylnt.us - shape-of-things-to-come
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[18:17:37] <SirFinkus> I love how using the force to manipulate less developed organisms into being cannon fodder is something people on the "light" side of the force seem to have no problem with
[18:18:37] <swiss> DONT POINT OUT FALLACIES
[18:18:45] * swiss uses the forceto have SirFinkus die gloriously in the ar
[18:18:47] <swiss> war*
[18:19:11] <SirFinkus> didn't know ar and I had the kind of relationship
[18:19:35] <swiss> you didn't, until the force took hold
[18:19:49] <SirFinkus> the "force"
[18:21:02] <SirFinkus> this fucking ewok bullshit
[18:21:16] <SirFinkus> you could cut every ewok out of this movie and it'd still make perfect sense
[18:21:23] <SirFinkus> they're completely extraneous
[18:21:39] <ar> http://deals.manningpublications.com
[18:21:41] <NutCraft> ^ 03Manning Publications
[18:41:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jennifer A. Lewis Named Foreign Policy Global Thinker - http://sylnt.us - shape-of-things-to-come
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[19:26:27] <JamesNZ> A friend of mine took this in Cambodia: http://tinyurl.com
[19:26:28] <NutCraft> ^ 03 ( https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net )
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[19:56:06] <blackest> hi has anyone come across google chrome adding code to webpages ?
[19:56:07] <ciri> hi blackest
[19:56:24] <blackest> hi ciri
[19:56:25] <ciri> hey whats up blackest
[19:57:17] <blackest> ciri a bot ?
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[20:41:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Homebuilt Exoplanet Detector - http://sylnt.us - unblinking-eye
[22:05:31] <crutchy> ciri is a butt
[22:36:42] <crutchy> ++coffee
[22:36:42] <NutCraft> Karma - coffee: 78
[23:25:32] <juggs> crutchy, what do mean by 'infected' their wiki? Hope you aren't doing 'bad' things :-/
[23:31:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mining the Moon - http://sylnt.us - paging-Mannie-and-Mike
[23:37:55] <crutchy> nah just put in my bit
[23:38:37] <juggs> I wish them luck, be interesting to see what they end up with
[23:38:46] <crutchy> http://without-systemd.org
[23:38:46] <NutCraft> ^ 03Talk:Main Page - Without Systemd
[23:39:00] <crutchy> they seem like a bunch of toecheese munchers
[23:39:16] <crutchy> love whacking about the ideological issues
[23:40:04] <juggs> well that does fit completely with debian's stance
[23:41:11] <crutchy> not entirely
[23:41:54] <crutchy> if debian were against commercial interests it would have been stillborn
[23:41:55] <juggs> hmm - I thought they were pretty strict on not bundling anything non-free (at least in the default install)
[23:42:50] <crutchy> the gpl3 whackos are intto trying to force devs and manufacturers to do what users want
[23:42:53] <crutchy> never gunna fly
[23:44:41] <juggs> true - can't see nvidia ever opening their drivers up for instance
[23:46:12] <juggs> the wireless / radio chipset manufacturers seem very wary of releasing anything other than binary blobs for some reason too - have to wonder if they are concerned about IP infringements being revealed or something
[23:46:35] <crutchy> in the patent/copyright wars, companies gotta protect their interests
[23:46:54] <crutchy> without said companies we wouldn't have the 'stuff' that we cherish so much
[23:52:00] <juggs> true, too much time sunk into R&D to just give that stuff up
[23:54:42] <crutchy> as much as i hate patents and copyright
[23:54:49] <crutchy> its just the way things are atm