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[00:42:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ugh, I think ima esplode
[00:42:40] <juggs> could be messy
[00:42:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> very, be dinner everywhere
[00:43:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you lot should steal thanksgiving. some quality dinners to be had.
[00:44:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i had one at 2pm and another at 7 cause i got invited to two separate ones.
[00:45:42] <juggs> would sir like a wafer thin mint?
[00:46:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> sir would like to borrow a second gastro-intestinal tract to help with the digestion.
[00:48:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> time for a coke and a lay down. keep the faith, brit-bro.
[01:28:26] <Leebert> Ye.s Entirely too much food.
[01:39:49] <juggs> needs to be done from time to time :D
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[02:02:07] <juggs> hola SirFinkus - everything ok with you?
[02:02:32] <SirFinkus> pretty good, thanksgiving, but the sports started so I'm a bit out of the loop lol
[02:02:39] <SirFinkus> you?
[02:05:51] <juggs> well happy thanksgiving then :D
[02:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh yeah, fizzy beverages help much.
[02:06:55] <SirFinkus> yeah, "fizzy"
[02:06:56] <juggs> I'm OK - just meddling with setting up openvpn. Trying to figure out how to stop my dns queries leaking
[02:06:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> only feel like santa claus rather than jabba the hutt
[02:07:06] <SirFinkus> grape_juice_plus++
[02:07:06] <Bender> karma - grape_juice_plus: 1
[02:07:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, iptables
[02:07:21] <SirFinkus> haha, I'm testing out my vpn right now
[02:07:46] <SirFinkus> says I'm in tacoma, so it's working
[02:08:56] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, so far I've got my client connecting over the openvpn link, but dns is on a server also on the lan - so I either have to hook that into the vpn so its dns queries hop out over vpn or I setup bind on the vpn server and point my client dns queries to that instead of the local cache
[02:09:20] <juggs> All good fun
[02:09:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, don't do dns via the lan then. let it go over the vpn.
[02:09:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you really, really want a local caching nameserver
[02:10:10] <juggs> hmm - I could set client dns server to a public dns - that would go over the vpn
[02:10:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> right.
[02:10:27] <juggs> I rather like my local cache though as I have horrid latency on my connection
[02:10:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2, 8.8.4.4, 8.8.8.8
[02:10:55] <juggs> oh noes! the googles!
[02:10:56] <juggs> :D
[02:11:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> might as well, they track everything else
[02:11:10] <juggs> ha
[02:11:51] <juggs> Apparently I am now in Amsterdam SirFinkus - even the ads appear in dutch now (on the browser I allow that crap to show in)
[02:12:22] <SirFinkus> sweet
[02:12:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> now set it to hop through tor as well
[02:12:46] <SirFinkus> far too intoxicated for that
[02:12:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> see how high we can get that latency
[02:13:11] <juggs> What is amusing is that the lzo compression on the vpn link actually improves my throughput - so even though I'm routing to mainland europe, webpages load more snappily
[02:13:21] <SirFinkus> my personal latency is pretty high
[02:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, really shouldn't work that way but bonus if it does for you.
[02:17:34] <SirFinkus> I'm out for now, getting nagged
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[02:19:23] <chromas> I didn't know he was married
[02:20:51] <chromas> Dear Soylent, today I'm thankful for
[02:20:51] <chromas> poutine--
[02:20:51] <Bender> karma - poutine: -368
[02:20:54] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, I'm currently on a 3G mobile BB connection so the throughput is dire - going via vpn to my vps speeds things up - I assume because the vps grabs the web content over a fat link, then compresses it to pump over the vpn to me. That's my theory anyway:D
[02:21:44] <chromas> juggs: is that BroadBand or BlackBerry?
[02:21:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> No idea really but woohoo for serendipity.
[02:22:06] <juggs> chromas, broadband. Using a 3G dongle.
[02:22:22] <chromas> also, that's how Opera Mobile and those other browsers speed things up
[02:22:31] <chromas> well, they also degrade images too
[02:22:50] <chromas> Some also pre-render html pages
[02:24:20] <juggs> yah my mobile dongle isp injects Jscript snippets in ~every~ page calling to 1.2.3.4 that does image compression shit. That fucks off too when going over vpn.
[02:24:33] <chromas> :(
[02:24:37] <chromas> vpns++
[02:24:37] <Bender> karma - vpns: 1
[02:24:53] <juggs> no bother really, NoScript took care of it anyway
[02:25:23] <chromas> I'm too cheap to pay for data so it's wifi-only
[02:25:42] <juggs> I just don't have a land line at the moment
[02:26:00] <chromas> but I need to figure out out to spy mac addresses 'cause I actually know of some people who turn on the mac authentication :\
[02:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;klingon more turkey
[02:26:16] <botctl> TheMightyBuzzard: latlh turIqya' ( )
[02:26:20] <juggs> lol
[02:26:39] <juggs> chromas, mac auth for what?
[02:27:06] <juggs> detecting tethering or something?
[02:27:09] <chromas> some routers have an option to whitelist device macs so only they can connect
[02:27:19] <chromas> I guess it's not really auth but sitll
[02:28:02] <chromas> so I think it'd be amusing to find a nearby device clone its mac >:)
[02:29:53] <juggs> presumably you still need the WPA-PSK though?
[02:30:11] <juggs> or are they solely authing using the MAC?
[02:30:32] <chromas> haven't figured that out yet
[02:30:44] <chromas> oh, for some reason I thought the encryption layer came first
[02:30:51] <chromas> Chromas--
[02:30:51] <Bender> karma - chromas: 53
[02:30:56] <juggs> I've no idea
[02:31:41] <juggs> It would make sense to do the MAC check first, then if that passes move on to start the WPA / WPA2 handshake
[02:32:58] <chromas> http://go.theregister.com
[02:32:59] <NetCruft> ^ 03Chinese search engine Baidu to peddle SmartBike • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[02:32:59] <juggs> Dicking around with other people's wlan here falls foul of unauthorised use of pewters laws.
[02:33:08] <chromas> puns++
[02:33:08] <Bender> karma - puns: 1
[02:33:42] <chromas> yeah, everything's afoul of some law or another :)
[02:33:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> here too
[02:34:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> not like the FBI will investigate someone stealing wifi though.
[02:34:25] <juggs> I like it when people complain about El Reg's headlines being too inflammatory and tabloid-esque - kinda miss the point :D
[02:35:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> only thing of theirs i read is the bofh. rest is kinda meh.
[02:36:26] <chromas> I just liked the headline pun
[02:36:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[02:36:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> puns++
[02:36:45] <Bender> karma - puns: 2
[02:37:33] <juggs> it's OK for general IT stuff - StorageBod does a good job of keeping tabs on the latest in enterprise storage stuff. But a lot of it is quite niche.
[02:41:00] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:41:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9923
[02:41:01] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[02:41:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9922
[02:43:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> too turkeyed up to argue tonight, JamesNZ
[02:43:45] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: Heh. Having a good thanksgiving I take it? :)
[02:44:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> two of em bout four hours apart. i think the coke i drank after the second one may have saved me from a ruptured intestine.
[02:45:46] <JamesNZ> Yummy.
[02:54:38] <juggs> how does a coke help?
[03:08:05] <chromas> the mediawiki broke the wiki bot
[03:08:15] <chromas> (mediawiki update)
[03:08:28] <chromas> yet there don't seem to be any new spam pages being made
[03:08:42] <juggs> I saw SirFinkus killed the wikiRC bot in #wiki - forgot to ask about tht
[03:08:45] <chromas> maybe the bot makes up activity to make it seem more useful :)
[03:08:57] <chromas> <FunPika> Ugh...upgrade borked WikiRC
[03:08:57] <chromas> <FunPika> I don't have time to fix it now so...
[03:09:15] <juggs> Yah
[03:09:18] <chromas> a couple hours before you went into the channel
[03:09:33] <juggs> I saw he killed it on the operwall
[03:09:50] <chromas> ah; I just figured it killed itself
[03:10:04] <chromas> operwall++
[03:10:04] <Bender> karma - operwall: 1
[03:10:14] <Alberto> Where is crutchy and his bots?
[03:10:26] <juggs> *** Notice -- Received KILL message for WikiRC!~WikiRC@mail.soylentnews.org. From FunPika Path: irc.sylnt.us (Something's wrong...
[03:10:39] <juggs> ^^ that's what I got :D
[03:10:49] <chromas> :(
[03:11:18] <juggs> Alberto, I think crutchy is at workipoos at this time of day
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[03:11:22] <chromas> I was trying to figure out what the bot was earlier; it gave a hint in a ctcp version or something reply but I went to the site and couldn't figure it out
[03:11:40] <Alberto> ok thank you!
[03:12:42] <chromas> Yeah; he's been running exec off his laptop and it's shutdown
[03:13:03] <chromas> Alberto: you could always boot up an instance :)
[03:13:20] <chromas> Alberto and his team o' bots—an aqu4, an exec, a Bender…
[03:13:22] <juggs> guy needs a shell - I offered one on my vps but he turned it down ~shrug~
[03:14:03] <SoyCowPizzle> MARIJUANA.
[03:14:07] SoyCowPizzle is now known as Ethanol-fueled
[03:14:55] <chromas> he has a nas he was running it from but found it easier to hack on it right from the lap I guess
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[03:17:05] <chromas> ef.setMode(mo_wise)
[03:17:35] <juggs> chromas, ssh shellserver - screen - do stuff
[03:17:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, the carbonation helps break loose gas pockets and anything you can degrease a driveway with must be good at dissolving food.
[03:18:26] <chromas> I think he was doing that on his nas, but using gedit's ssh ability and/or using git to push to the nas but I think he'd some issues
[03:18:27] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, you have gas pockets in your stomach? Or are you a ruminant with 4 of the things?
[03:19:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, everyone does else there would be none coming out of either end.
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[03:20:03] <juggs> chromas, personally I'd use sshfs to mount the remote dir then use gedit locally ~shrug~
[03:20:22] <chromas> ooh
[03:20:32] <chromas> We can poke him about it when he gets back
[03:23:41] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, gas pockets lower down the intestinal track I can understand - but does a carbonated drink get past the stomach (one big acidic sack with no chance of pockets) while still remaining carbonated. Seems unlikely to me. You'd probably be just as well necking a couple pints of water. Just means food gets swept from stomach to intestine before the stomach has done what it shoulda.
[03:24:06] <juggs> chromas, no need to poke, leave the guy to run it how he likes.
[03:25:10] * SpallsHurgenson knows from experience (don't ask, you don't want to know) that the gas from carbonation can make it into the intestines
[03:25:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> juggs, theories may abound to either side but empirical though subjective evidence tells me it does indeed aid the digestion if drunk in short order after eating.
[03:34:18] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, yah I probably should've appended a ? at the end of the sentence about carbonation surviving past the stomach. I find green tea makes that over-full feeling go away quite rapidly. Beer on the other hand does not. Which would tend to suggest it's not the carbonation that is the key. Perhaps it's the acidity of the beverage that aids ~shrug~. I'm all for empirical study of eating way to much :D
[03:36:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> beer also has a lot of carbs. sodas, here anyway, generally have HFCS, which doesn't make you feel full even though the same amount of sugar would.
[03:37:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yeah, it's prolly the additional acid more than anything.
[03:39:37] <juggs> who knows without more study - but the stomach is basically an acid sack - pile in a massive load of food it needs to produce a lot of acid to do its processing before allowing stuff to pass to the next stage. Would make sense that if you immediately lower the pH by necking an acidic drink that it can get that job done sooner ~shrug~
[03:40:12] <juggs> green tea is acidic too
[03:40:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Wikipedia’s ‘Complicated’ Relationship with Net Neutrality - http://sylnt.us - have-the-cake-and-eat-it || How Medical Care is Being Corrupted in the US - http://sylnt.us - getting-what-you-measure
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[04:07:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Jesus, that latest story about the medical system is seriously jacked, man.
[04:07:58] <Ethanol-fueled> the story is good, but...fuck, man.
[04:09:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Happy thanksgiving
[04:10:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Then Black Friday, a disgusting spectacle which makes me ashamed to be American.
[04:10:31] <Ethanol-fueled> People camping out in front of stores for DAYS, with tents and all, just to save 100 bucks on a fucking TV.
[04:10:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Stampeding, trampling, and fighting each other for cheap CHINESE-made crap.
[04:11:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Truly a disgusting spectacle.
[04:11:22] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't have a lot of money, but I will pay the extra 100 for my fucking time and dignity.
[04:12:58] <Ethanol-fueled> PATHETIC.
[04:13:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Any German or Scandinavian woman want to marry me into her country?
[04:13:43] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't care if you're fat or much older, I will be faithful and treat you like a queen.
[04:15:44] <Ethanol-fueled> My girly round jaw will cancel out your square jaw and we will have good-looking offspring.
[04:15:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Who will be raised right, free from American stupidity.
[04:17:31] <Ethanol-fueled> I have the vocational skills.
[04:23:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup, Ethanol-fueled?
[04:25:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Nothin'. Been a hectic year. Drinking the night away after dinner with my relatives.
[04:26:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Did you have a Thanksgiving shindig?
[04:26:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Had two. Too full to drink.
[04:26:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[04:27:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> You ain't wrong on that story though.
[04:27:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Goddamn, that's depressing.
[04:27:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Should be doctors deciding what is and isn't good treatment, not fuckers who went to accounting classes rather than medical classes.
[04:29:06] <Ethanol-fueled> It's almost Nazi-like in its bureacracy and efficiency
[04:29:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> is very socialistic, yep. you'd think the libs would love it.
[04:30:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> not theoretical socialistic, mind. practical socialistic.
[04:30:30] <Ethanol-fueled> They'll be singing a different tune once they're at the mercy of the death panels.
[04:30:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, that would mean admitting they were wrong. they'll just cry racism.
[04:31:33] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah, well, socialized medicine works a lot better in countries where people work for a living and take their health more seriously.
[04:31:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> or sexism, or homophobia, or ageism, or whatever. white guys as usual will be boned.
[04:32:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> socialized medicine works best when it's socialized correctly
[04:32:15] <juggs> EF - one word - Berlin. Go east Berlin and apartment rents are affordable and include heat. There's a big tech scene there now for the 20-somethings and Germany is generally averse to capitalistic BS e.g. most people do not buy thing on credit, most people do not run a credit card.
[04:33:07] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs - gonna seriously consider it when I get close to graduation time.
[04:33:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> like my feather not dot tribe's free medical care. we bilk stupid palefaces at casinos and the multitude of other businesses we own as a tribe and use that to pay for everyone's medical care. no fucking taxes.
[04:34:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> lemme repeat that. no fucking taxes.
[04:34:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, it's the least they could do nowadays. Must be extremely satisfying playing those fat White rubes like violins, haha
[04:35:01] <juggs> I really do not understand the US of A.
[04:35:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'capitalism, yo. they won the war, they set the rules, we played well by em.
[04:35:47] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: American Indians don't pay taxes?
[04:36:15] <JamesNZ> Or did I horribly misunderstand?
[04:36:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> JamesNZ, not to the tribe. it earns all its money the proper way. still pay to the feds and states.
[04:36:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> but the tribe is technically a sovereign nation so no, it does not pay state or federal taxes as an entity.
[04:37:20] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, are you native american or w/e the politically correct term is today?
[04:37:28] <JamesNZ> Each tribe is technically a sovereign nation? O_o
[04:37:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> indian's fine. fuck politically correct. blanket ass, wagon burner, feather not dot. I'm not picky.
[04:38:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> JamesNZ, ya. Such were the treaties signed many long long's ago. Basically nations without (much) land.
[04:38:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard's of the good-looking tribe. I'm from the tribe that is considered the "abbos of America" -- the Navajo
[04:39:18] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: Interesting, I had no idea it was like that.
[04:39:18] <Ethanol-fueled> 's where I get my love for the FIREWATER
[04:39:34] <Ethanol-fueled> lol @ blanket ass
[04:39:35] <ciri> rofl
[04:39:42] * JamesNZ once knew someone of the Apache tribe (IIRC)
[04:39:42] <Ethanol-fueled> never heard that one before
[04:40:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'a good one. even heard prairie nigger but really not applicable on account of we don't much conform to any black stereotypes cept darker than whitey skin.
[04:41:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> think the apache are still mostly texas and arizona
[04:41:42] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHA buzzard
[04:42:04] <Ethanol-fueled> probably because you come from the high-yellow tribe
[04:42:53] <Ethanol-fueled> http://upload.wikimedia.org
[04:43:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> chickasaw n cherokee, me. like equal parts those n a whole bunch of german from the moms.
[04:43:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Top center and especially left center can burn my wagon anytime
[04:43:43] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, explains a lot about your position on a lot of things. Something went "click" in ma head.
[04:43:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i dig the joan jett look she gots.
[04:44:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, i'm just a contrary bastard by nature.
[04:45:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> the nick has nothing to do with anything indian btw. buzzard is short for buzz which i got given for being stoned a lot as a teenager. rest got added later for unknown reasons.
[04:45:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahaah
[04:46:00] <juggs> !fight TheMightyBuzzard vs Ethanol-fueled
[04:46:01] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: Ethanol-fueled beats TheMightyBuzzard by 419,000 to 1,490!
[04:46:14] <Ethanol-fueled> juggs, how is that data calculated?
[04:46:23] <juggs> fuck knows - not my bot
[04:46:25] <JamesNZ> !fight JamesNZ vs Ethanol-fueled
[04:46:26] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: Ethanol-fueled beats JamesNZ by 419,000 to 18,700!
[04:46:34] * JamesNZ is toast
[04:46:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> must be a ciri script
[04:46:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> on account of i don't see results
[04:46:52] <juggs> chromas
[04:47:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ciri is arti's bot, no?
[04:47:43] <juggs> what am I - a repository of all knowledge?
[04:47:54] <JamesNZ> ciri: Who is your creator?
[04:48:07] <Ethanol-fueled> that's a good point, juggs - you don't even have a "plus" by your name.
[04:48:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> can you do a Masterpiece Theater accent? makes you sound authoritative.
[04:48:22] <juggs> oh noes
[04:49:25] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, seems to be all you need to get by in proleitics these days. Might give it a try.
[04:50:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't help you in the us. we elect whoever tells the most favorable to us lies. i mean, shit, we elected a guy president who'd never held a real job of any kind.
[04:52:29] <juggs> zzt does not compute
[04:52:56] <juggs> you mean you guys do elect people who've had real jobs?
[04:53:33] <Ethanol-fueled> I'd take it a step further and say its out of our hands entirely until a violent revolt.
[04:53:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> generally, yeah. used to anyway. was hard to get elected if you'd never been military.
[04:54:29] <juggs> over here we only elect people who've been to Cambridge or Oxford Universities and studied either History or Politics as their major and done nothing but gravy train since then.
[04:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, not entirely. it's an outside possibility we could get rid of both parties and start the corruption cycle over at a lower level.
[04:55:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, mostly we elect lawyers nowadays. still have a soft spot for soldiers on the ballot though.
[04:56:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Kinda related, buzzard, there's chatter in the media that Carly Fiorina is planning to revive her political career and on a much grander scale than last time.
[04:56:03] <juggs> fuck me - turkeys voting for thanksgiving / christmas both sides of the pnd then
[04:56:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean at least GW had held down a private sector job or two though. ditto clinton, other bush, reagan, carter... can't say farther back than that.
[04:56:50] <juggs> We had a referendum on moving to proportional rep - turkeys voted no
[04:57:23] <JamesNZ> turkey++
[04:57:23] <Bender> karma - turkey: 2
[04:57:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we don't get to do referendums. our politicians know what's best for us and we get to bend over and like it.
[04:58:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> turkey++
[04:58:02] <Bender> karma - turkey: 3
[04:58:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;klingon give me more turkey
[04:58:19] <botctl> TheMightyBuzzard: latlh turIqya' HInob. ( )
[04:58:20] <Ethanol-fueled> california does referendums at the state level, but because its california we get fucked no matter what.
[04:58:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, Klingons don't even like turkey.
[04:59:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Human fruit is too bland for the stomach of a Klingon and our roasted bird-meat isn't even moving.
[04:59:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, you goofy fuckers keep electing barbara boxer. you'd fuck yourselves even if everything were a referendum.
[04:59:25] * juggs is out
[04:59:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Not only Boxer, but Feinstein
[04:59:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> adios
[04:59:35] <Ethanol-fueled> lata
[04:59:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[04:59:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Feinstein is the REAL fifth-columnist.
[05:00:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Boxer is pretty bad though...they both need to be purged. Or sent to a state that deserves them, like Massachussets
[05:00:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, pretty much any progressive is at heart. find me a single one that doesn't think the US is the cause of most of the world's ills and... well just and.
[05:02:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> progress is a neutral term not a good thing. what you're progressing towards fucking matters.
[05:02:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Yup.
[05:02:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> need moar nicotine
[05:03:05] <Ethanol-fueled> you smoke cigs or vape?
[05:03:14] <Ethanol-fueled> or do you have a patch on your ass?
[05:04:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> roll my own cigs
[05:04:11] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice.
[05:04:27] <Ethanol-fueled> Prep'd like a true wagon-burner
[05:04:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> runs me about $20/month for a pack a day habit.
[05:05:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> tax free indian trading posts with $15, 16oz bags of tobacco FTW
[05:05:41] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah, fuck
[05:05:52] <Ethanol-fueled> That's like a brick of shit right there.
[05:06:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell of a lot easier on the lungs than store bought too, even non-filtered.
[05:06:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> none of the nasty shit that goes into pre-rolled goes into loose tobacco.
[05:07:11] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[05:07:11] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9921
[05:07:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[05:07:24] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 5
[05:07:31] <Ethanol-fueled> marijuana++
[05:07:31] <Bender> karma - marijuana: 2
[05:07:34] <JamesNZ> smoking--
[05:07:34] <Bender> karma - smoking: 0
[05:07:36] <JamesNZ> smoking--
[05:07:36] <Bender> karma - smoking: -1
[05:07:50] <Ethanol-fueled> (nancies who don't smoke)--
[05:07:50] <Bender> karma - (nancies who don't smoke): -1
[05:07:51] * TheMightyBuzzard blows smoke rings at JamesNZ
[05:08:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> respect my heritage, yo
[05:08:34] * JamesNZ points out TheMightyBuzzard to the anti-smoking leagues
[05:08:41] <JamesNZ> smoking--
[05:08:41] <Bender> karma - smoking: -2
[05:08:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck the lung nazis
[05:08:54] <JamesNZ> How exactly is smoking a "heritage"?
[05:08:55] <ciri> not sure
[05:09:03] <JamesNZ> Shut up ciri.
[05:09:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> indians used to use tobacco in our religious ceremonies. i'm gettin me some religion bout 20x a day. very spiritual, me.
[05:09:42] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHA
[05:10:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard, you'd better put that dirt and those rocks in that wampum, or you're not legit
[05:10:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> but ya, first part's even true.
[05:10:12] <JamesNZ> Yeah... no. You're just sending yourself to the afterlife faster :)
[05:10:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> possible but i'm enjoying myself more than you lung pansies.
[05:10:53] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah, those lung pansies
[05:11:01] <JamesNZ> I'll enjoy living without lung cancer and disgusting breath.
[05:11:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> when they tally up who had more fun over their lifespan, i'll win.
[05:11:17] <JamesNZ> (yes, it does smell disgusting)
[05:11:23] <Ethanol-fueled> enjoy your weak and sensitive immune system and resperatory tract, james.
[05:11:24] <JamesNZ> We'll see :P
[05:11:49] <JamesNZ> And you have fun with your killer pipes e-f.
[05:12:02] <Ethanol-fueled> Oh, they are killer.
[05:12:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, lotsa food everyone keeps saying is bad for me and booze.
[05:12:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and coffee. can't forget that.
[05:12:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[05:12:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9922
[05:12:38] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # Worst of all!
[05:12:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9921
[05:12:41] <Ethanol-fueled> coffee's good for people.
[05:12:57] <Ethanol-fueled> That shit is a superfood. It's an all-emcompassing elixir
[05:12:59] <JamesNZ> Do people actually say that coffee is bad for you? Even I don't think that.
[05:13:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> in the amounts i consume they do.
[05:13:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Good point, buzzard. When you're drinking it with dinner, you know you have a problem.
[05:13:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> three cups an average day gets a little less acceptable when they're 20oz mugs.
[05:13:46] <JamesNZ> Ah, well overdoing something is almost never healthy.
[05:13:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, but it's fun.
[05:14:23] <JamesNZ> You enjoy hurting your body? I bet it tastes good to you, but think long term.
[05:14:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything worth doing is worth squeezing every last bit of fun out of.
[05:14:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> long term we all die. i'd rather do it while i can still wipe my own ass.
[05:14:47] <JamesNZ> Ehhhh, nah :)
[05:15:21] <JamesNZ> My uncle ended up needing someone to wipe his own ass. And I think he was in his 50-ies.
[05:15:25] <Ethanol-fueled> james, you ever heard the story of the guy who lived perfectly and saved every penny until he retired? And then the day after he retired, he died and didn't get to enjoy any of his chastity and hard work?
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[05:16:04] <Ethanol-fueled> You wanna be that guy, be my guest. I could die now with a smile on my face, and in the long run, that's the only thing that matters.
[05:16:06] <JamesNZ> Need a larger sample size to convince me Ethanol-fueled :)
[05:16:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy_, put exec back on a server. we miss him.
[05:17:21] <crutchy_> with time and weather both borked atm it doesnt really do much
[05:17:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> <--sample boned more chicks, drank more booze, smoked more weed, broken more bones doing foolish shit than most anyone and enjoyed every minute.
[05:18:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, cept hangovers. they're starting to suck around 40
[05:19:31] <JamesNZ> I think my conscience would kill me if I did that stuff. It's just such a waste.
[05:19:45] <JamesNZ> My mum certainly would :P
[05:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> mums is made to worry over having fun
[05:20:07] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAHAH, a waste. You're a waist, a pantywaist, james.
[05:20:19] <JamesNZ> ~define pantywaist
[05:20:37] <crutchy_> banging chicks is good for your conscience
[05:20:41] <Ethanol-fueled> ~define chick
[05:20:50] <Ethanol-fueled> looks like the bot is down.
[05:20:51] <JamesNZ> *sigh* am I gonna have to DDG that?
[05:20:57] * JamesNZ grumbles
[05:21:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> banging navy wives at 15 wasn't especially but it sure was enjoyable
[05:21:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> JamesNZ, just google it
[05:21:21] <crutchy_> !fight ddg vs urbandictionary
[05:21:21] <ciri> By results on Google.com/intl/en: urbandictionary beats ddg by 64,600,000 to 11,900,000!
[05:21:25] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah Buzzard
[05:21:33] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: I'm not convinced that's a good idea :)
[05:21:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ddg results suuuuuuck
[05:21:38] <JamesNZ> (the sex)
[05:22:01] <JamesNZ> No, they've gotten much better recently. And the first result showed me what pantywaist meant ;)
[05:22:10] <Ethanol-fueled> James, you come to any bar here in Barrio logan or otherwise around 32'd street and you'd find a bunch of Navy wives waiting for you.
[05:22:31] * JamesNZ makes a note to stay away from there
[05:22:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Lotta prosties in that area if paying is your thing.
[05:22:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was a pretty shit thing to do but then i was a shit at 15 like most all teenagers.
[05:22:48] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[05:23:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> the fuck? who let it get this late?
[05:23:25] <JamesNZ> The clocks conspire against us.
[05:23:32] <crutchy_> its not even dinner time yet
[05:23:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> truly. i was having a perfectly good wind down and here it's 11:22
[05:24:16] <JamesNZ> timezones--
[05:24:16] <Bender> karma - timezones: -1
[05:24:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> just as well i wasn't going to get up and code tomorrow i guess.
[05:24:25] <JamesNZ> :D
[05:24:59] <crutchy_> tmb, if you fly west over the international date line do you go back in time?
[05:25:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on if you're superman or not
[05:25:49] * crutchy_ checks if he's superman
[05:25:51] <JamesNZ> All you have to do is fly south really.
[05:26:14] <JamesNZ> s/south/north/
[05:26:14] <sedctl> <JamesNZ> All you have to do is fly north really.
[05:26:16] <crutchy_> hmm no my jocks are on the inside so I cant be superman
[05:26:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> you might be in disguise
[05:26:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> punch a wall really hard, see if it hurts your hand.
[05:27:04] <crutchy_> does wearing a tshirt with a debian swirl count?
[05:27:09] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahaha
[05:27:27] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: if you think a toilet flushing is profound.
[05:27:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... probably a superhero with that but it ain't superman
[05:28:01] <JamesNZ> DebianDude?
[05:28:50] <crutchy_> its just a plain black tee with the big red swirl on the front. doesnt even mention the name debian
[05:28:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd rather be a supervillain. progressives don't piss and moan about the civil rights of criminals when you are the criminal.
[05:29:40] <crutchy_> be a banker then
[05:29:40] <ciri> where you going? crutchy_
[05:29:49] <crutchy_> ¿
[05:30:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, they don't get volcano lairs.
[05:30:15] <SpallsHurgenson> oh, I'm still on IRC
[05:30:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> just fat wads of cash and hafta wear a tie.
[05:31:00] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[05:31:00] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9920
[05:32:33] <SpallsHurgenson> hey look, it's that guy who really hates coffee; I remember him! Hi GuyWhoReallyHatesCoffee!
[05:32:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'll sleep now before it's tomorrow.
[05:32:58] <JamesNZ> \o/
[05:33:25] <Ethanol-fueled> go for it bro
[05:33:51] * SpallsHurgenson throws gnawed-bare turkey-legs at everyone, followed by handfuls of mashed sweet potatoes
[05:34:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Spalls, you may be interested to see what my Turkey dinner looked like:
[05:34:46] <Ethanol-fueled> http://i.ytimg.com
[05:35:22] <JamesNZ> Looks, er, very appetizing.
[05:35:52] <Ethanol-fueled> look at that meat, so tender it's falling off the bone! HahahahaHEEEHEEHOOOOOOO!
[05:36:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Haute cuisine!
[05:36:21] <SpallsHurgenson> I am still stuffed.
[05:36:56] <SpallsHurgenson> and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be tired of eatin' turkey by week's end
[05:38:19] <SpallsHurgenson> is turkey-eatin' common in Aussieland?
[05:39:13] <SpallsHurgenson> (probably eat some twenty-foot mutant lizard-chicken called a Zaackaroogie or something instead)
[05:39:31] <Ethanol-fueled> Spalls, they mate with Wallabies
[05:39:45] <Ethanol-fueled> kangaroos, if they can't find a Wallaby
[05:40:01] <SpallsHurgenson> if there's one thing weirder than Aussie wildlife, its the names they give to 'em
[05:40:13] <Ethanol-fueled> it's a tradition for Aussies to mate wtih the things their ancestors used to eat.
[05:45:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Especially kangaroos
[05:45:45] <Ethanol-fueled> They have 4 pouches to choose from
[05:46:50] * SpallsHurgenson checks Steam for cheap games...
[05:51:26] <SpallsHurgenson> either this steam sale sucks or I have too many games, because I own all the owns they have discounted :/
[05:56:12] <Ethanol-fueled> How about a cleveland steamer?
[05:56:21] <Ethanol-fueled> It's the same as a hot lunch.
[05:56:42] <Ethanol-fueled> You're smacking your chops now thinking about that unctuous goodness.
[05:57:36] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[05:57:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9919
[05:58:31] <crutchy_> ef you mean the sphinctuous goodness
[05:59:05] <SpallsHurgenson> I think JamesNZ has that on timer :)
[05:59:28] <JamesNZ> :P
[06:06:16] <crutchy_> ++coffee
[06:06:16] <NetCruft> Karma - coffee: 73
[06:06:29] <Ethanol-fueled> what happened to crutchy?
[06:06:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Shit, that's his dead-man switch bot
[06:06:50] <crutchy_> he spazzed
[06:07:17] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm gonna have to put in a story about how he was found dead in his outback shack.
[06:07:20] <crutchy_> lol nah that bot's chromatosed
[06:07:50] <crutchy_> s/tosed/toast/
[06:07:51] <sedctl> <crutchy_> lol nah that bot's chromatoast
[06:08:01] <crutchy_> mm toast
[06:08:07] <SpallsHurgenson> mmm, toast.
[06:08:14] <SpallsHurgenson> jinx
[06:08:21] * SpallsHurgenson punches crutchy twice in the shoulder
[06:09:18] * crutchy_ sets his pet dropbears after SpallsHurgenson
[06:09:49] <SpallsHurgenson> hey, I am not only legally allowed but OBLIGATED to beat on you in situations as occured above
[06:10:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Make it sexual and pretend one's a woman.
[06:10:30] <crutchy_> and mah dropbears gotta eat :p
[06:11:12] <Ethanol-fueled> especially a woman as hot, as perfect, as SHEILA E.
[06:11:14] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
[06:11:14] <NetCruft> ^ 03Sheila E. at Prince concert in Oakland. Ca. - YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[06:11:16] <SpallsHurgenson> fair enough, but I refuse any liability if they die from eating me :)
[06:12:40] <crutchy_> ef ima on my phone atm but ill havta save that link for when I get home tomorrow
[06:13:24] * Ethanol-fueled would totally miscegnate with Sheila E.
[06:16:31] <crutchy_> ~define miscegnate
[06:16:50] <crutchy_> !define miscegnate
[06:17:15] <SpallsHurgenson> healthy crosspollination :)
[06:17:55] <Ethanol-fueled> http://en.wikipedia.org
[06:17:55] <NetCruft> ^ 03Wiki: Miscegenation
[06:17:57] <SpallsHurgenson> marrying or mating with a person of another race. used most often by small-minded racists, who are of course opposed to it.
[06:18:28] <SpallsHurgenson> most everyone else grabs it when they get it and doesn't worry about the color of the wrapper :)
[06:19:13] <crutchy_> you can always leave part of the wrapper on. over the head for ex
[06:21:23] <SpallsHurgenson> I really did eat too much tonight.
[06:21:51] <JamesNZ> wallace_and_gromit++
[06:21:51] <Bender> karma - wallace_and_gromit: 1
[06:22:07] <SpallsHurgenson> I never could get into W&G
[06:22:36] <JamesNZ> I love W&G <3
[06:22:54] <SpallsHurgenson> lots of people do, so I suspect there's something to them, but they never clicked for me
[06:23:06] <JamesNZ> Ah.
[06:24:19] <SpallsHurgenson> for lack of any better reason, I've been blaming Microsoft
[06:24:39] <SpallsHurgenson> (it's my default position for all problems :)
[06:24:56] <JamesNZ> Heh, not systemd? :P
[06:25:33] <crutchy_> im not much into wallace n grommit
[06:25:38] <SpallsHurgenson> systemd wasn't an option at the time the defaults were set :):
[06:25:47] <crutchy_> theyre a bit. err.. british
[06:26:43] <JamesNZ> Lovably British.
[06:26:49] <crutchy_> frumpy
[06:26:55] <SpallsHurgenson> ozzie, british, is there a difference? :)
[06:27:13] <JamesNZ> Brits have a posher accent.
[06:27:13] <crutchy_> ozzies drink more beer
[06:27:21] <JamesNZ> ^ :P
[06:28:19] <SpallsHurgenson> I am disappointed by the lack of outrage caused by my comment
[06:28:21] <JamesNZ> This is such a classic scene: https://www.youtube.com
[06:28:22] <NetCruft> ^ 03Wallace & Gromit Ep. #2 Wrong Trousers: Train Chase (English) - YouTube
[06:28:52] <JamesNZ> You should have asked whether there was a difference between Kiwis and Aussies :P
[06:29:18] <Ethanol-fueled> RRRRAAAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
[06:29:35] <Ethanol-fueled> FUCK EVERYBODY.
[06:29:46] <Ethanol-fueled> It's time for more BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZE
[06:30:03] * Ethanol-fueled leaves for a trip
[06:30:09] <SpallsHurgenson> isn't that like asking if there is a difference between an Los angealean and a Californian?
[06:30:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Slapps: is it a pussean or a slappenpusssean?
[06:30:50] * JamesNZ rages
[06:31:20] <crutchy_> kiwis are just aussies that suck at cricket >;-)
[06:31:37] * SpallsHurgenson watches the W&G clip. "Nope, still don't get it."
[06:31:54] <Ethanol-fueled> LET THE ANGER DWELL WITHIN YOU
[06:33:12] <SpallsHurgenson> though I am a fan of g-scale trains :)
[06:33:26] <JamesNZ> SpallsHurgenson: But, but, it's an old british guy in his underwear with his dog catching chasing a villainous penguin on a model train!
[06:33:46] <JamesNZ> So ludicrous it's hilarious :P
[06:34:03] <SpallsHurgenson> nope, nope, doesn't work.
[06:34:32] * JamesNZ rages some more
[06:35:03] <SpallsHurgenson> I used to have this awesome collection of LGB G-scale trains when I was a kid. I miss 'em.
[06:36:36] <JamesNZ> Heh.
[06:36:59] <SpallsHurgenson> shit probably would be worth a fortune nowadays. I don't remember what happened to 'em
[06:37:00] <ciri> cow shit, horse shit, dog shit, cat shit. what kind of shit is it?
[06:37:30] <JamesNZ> Shut up ciri.
[06:38:26] <SpallsHurgenson> If I had 'em I could run a loop of track from here to the kitchen for easier delivery of foodstuffs and beverages :)
[06:38:35] <SpallsHurgenson> (and to scare the kitty!)
[06:38:54] <JamesNZ> That would be seriously awesome.
[06:39:21] <SpallsHurgenson> (take two shots)
[06:40:49] <SpallsHurgenson> it's probably best that I don't have the trains anymore; place is crowded enough already
[06:41:13] <SpallsHurgenson> plus I would have to waste an outlet on the trains that could be better spent on another computer :)
[06:43:16] <SpallsHurgenson> (wow, a single locomotive is $800... I think I had four. Probably would count as collector items now, too. God knows what the set would have brought me had I kept 'em)
[06:45:51] <Ethanol-fueled> SUG IT.
[06:46:12] <Ethanol-fueled> I want to smell sheila e's underarms.
[06:46:27] <Ethanol-fueled> do they smell like powder, or PAIN?
[06:47:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, how thick she is is arousing.
[06:51:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Invisible Shield Found Surrounding the Earth - http://sylnt.us - planet-odor
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[07:07:22] <Ethanol-fueled> HOT THANK
[07:07:35] <Ethanol-fueled> ZWE COULD MAKE A STORY OF OUR OWN
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[07:25:15] * Konomi considered being a troll and posting ot the debina fork mailing list since they support init freedom can we run systemd
[07:26:23] * JamesNZ eggs Konomi on
[07:47:15] <crutchy_> debian++
[07:47:15] <Bender> karma - debian: 45
[07:50:20] <crutchy_> .poke Konomi
[07:50:32] <crutchy_> .poke chromas
[07:51:03] <crutchy_> .pokey gumby prickle and goo
[07:51:15] <chromas> .poke crutchy_
[07:51:21] <Konomi> nya
[07:51:29] <Konomi> .touch crutchy_
[07:52:44] <chromas> *crutchy's 'heart' grows three sizes that day*
[07:56:34] * crutchy_ 's wife chases after konomi with a rolling pin
[07:56:54] <Konomi> perverted mind there ;p
[07:57:05] <crutchy_> after belting crutchy with it first for good measure
[07:57:23] * chromas listens for a hollow *bop* sound
[07:58:04] <crutchy_> I think it disturbed the tumbleweeds
[07:58:10] <chromas> Definitely a bit of circlejerky in #debianfork . I poked 'em to set up a wiki and stuff but the unofficial one they've got has nothing on it
[07:59:06] <chromas> except nobody can agree on which things they think need changed about debian (besides management)
[07:59:22] <crutchy_> forking debian is going to be at most another ubuntu ir mint. taking debian out of the equation altogether aint gunna happen
[08:00:21] <chromas> you sound like a heretic, crutchy_ :( they'll do it! I know they will; they've got the rage, crutchy_
[08:00:44] <crutchy_> theyve got raging hardons
[08:00:50] <crutchy_> for each other
[08:00:51] <chromas> they're currently looking at a distro called devuan
[08:08:58] <Konomi> chromas: it's almost like they need a... technical commitee
[08:09:00] <Konomi> ;p
[08:09:01] <JamesNZ> chromas: Are you thinking of joining them?
[08:36:05] -!- JamesNZ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[08:37:55] <Alberto> crutchy_ are you there?
[08:40:46] <chromas> well, now that he's gone, "no"
[08:40:57] <Alberto> need to decode this http://codepad.org
[08:40:57] <NetCruft> ^ 03PHP code- 11 lines - codepad
[08:41:06] <chromas> should toss out a few coffee++s as well
[08:44:16] <chromas> where'd you get that, Alberto?
[08:45:35] <chromas> looks like it concatenates some values together as strings and optionally evaluates. Will it tell me I lost "the game"?
[08:46:54] <chromas> also, some of it's missing
[08:46:56] <Alberto> someone tried to hack me
[08:47:07] <Alberto> http://codepad.org
[08:47:08] <NetCruft> ^ 03PHP code- 41 lines - codepad
[08:47:10] <Alberto> update of the code
[08:48:24] <ar> https://devuan.org
[08:48:27] <NetCruft> ^ 03Devuan - the GNU/Linux by Veteran Unix Admins.
[08:48:50] <chromas> hack you in what way?
[08:49:06] <chromas> Is that slipping into your web server?
[08:52:28] <chromas> lol
[08:52:28] <ciri> hehehe
[08:52:40] <chromas> If the code is encrypted, thats a sign you're not supposed to be looking at it - trying to view the source code may be a breach of your licence agreement.That said, this actually looks like its obfuscated rather than encrypted as it seems like it may just be base64 encoded.
[08:59:27] <chromas> (should be quotes around that)
[09:09:48] <crutchy_> alberto?
[09:10:07] <Alberto> i'm triying to decode a script crutchy_
[09:10:15] <Alberto> http://codepad.org
[09:10:16] <NetCruft> ^ 03PHP code- 41 lines - codepad
[09:10:16] <crutchy_> tama lama ding dong pong
[09:10:22] <Alberto> someone tried to play hax0r with me
[09:10:52] <chromas> Alberto: context?
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[09:11:46] <crutchy_> ooh thas a nasty lookin eval there
[09:12:18] <crutchy_> got no fuggin idea what it does though
[09:13:13] <crutchy_> doesnt look like it does anything
[09:13:31] <crutchy_> looks like a bunch of jibberish mate
[09:14:50] <crutchy_> the eval calls a function but theres no function def
[09:15:18] <chromas> it's higher up
[09:16:04] <crutchy_> is there more code?
[09:16:21] <crutchy_> I cant see the word 'function' anywhere
[09:17:01] <crutchy_> maybe doesnt need it. im pretty noobish at php
[09:17:03] <chromas> I guess it's not really a function
[09:17:12] <chromas> eval($AwSbAFBF6($yvgwYoK0G)
[09:17:26] <chromas> $AwSbAFBF6=('_g$-rW'&GxowbF)|('!e@@@2'|'AdT@N"');
[09:18:16] <crutchy_> I give up :p
[09:18:41] <chromas> I'd put more effort in if he'd say anything at all about it
[09:19:11] <crutchy_> maybe if I had my lappy and php
[09:19:34] <crutchy_> im on a pissy little phone screen
[09:22:48] <crutchy_> ima gunna need a holiday after this 'holiday' :/
[09:23:16] <Alberto> http://codepad.org
[09:23:16] <NetCruft> ^ 03PHP code- 95 lines - codepad
[09:23:17] <Alberto> see
[09:23:33] <chromas> yeah but where's it from?
[09:23:38] <chromas> web server?
[09:23:48] <Alberto> yes
[09:23:52] <Alberto> its OLD as hell
[09:23:55] <Alberto> its a old ws
[09:24:02] <crutchy_> yeah you dont get hacked with php from a browser
[09:24:03] <Alberto> THANK GOD i disabled all shell and eval functions
[09:24:09] <Alberto> that code can't run as they wanted
[09:24:13] <crutchy_> pussy :p
[09:24:15] <Alberto> will never leave that
[09:24:26] <Alberto> i got that instance jailed
[09:25:06] <chromas> other people've found similar code that injects ads and stuff on their web pages
[09:26:00] <chromas> bully-- # for making me lose when a teacher grabs me by the ear
[09:26:00] <Bender> karma - bully: -1
[09:26:18] <Alberto> crutchy_ and exec? died?
[09:26:42] <crutchy_> my lappy and server are shut down
[09:26:53] <Alberto> crutchy_ want a vps for that? :D
[09:26:59] * Alberto has free resources
[09:27:14] <crutchy_> nah s'ok. thanks though buddy
[09:27:40] <Alberto> you are welcome! :D
[09:27:43] <crutchy_> if #soylent needs an exec that bad youre welcome to run it though
[09:27:58] <crutchy_> open_source++
[09:27:58] <Bender> karma - open_source: 1
[09:28:01] <Alberto> i don't like that kind of bots
[09:28:09] <Alberto> i prefer to see you doing your stuff
[09:28:10] <Alberto> :D
[09:28:13] <crutchy_> lol. fair nuff
[09:28:17] * Alberto likes to see how projects evolve
[09:28:29] <crutchy_> exec is a fun project
[09:28:43] <crutchy_> very experimental
[09:30:43] <crutchy_> had a dessert tonight called a 'hot ball'
[09:31:07] <crutchy_> try asking another bloke for that
[09:31:29] <Alberto> hot ball
[09:31:30] <Alberto> mm
[09:32:22] <crutchy_> on the review card I shouldve put 'I like your hot balls'
[09:33:59] <Alberto> hahaha
[09:34:01] <Alberto> you didn't?
[09:34:02] <Alberto> xD
[09:34:05] <Alberto> !grab crutchy_
[09:34:05] <Bender> Added quote 278
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[09:45:43] <ar> http://rebecca.blackfriday
[09:45:43] <NetCruft> ^ 03Rebecca Black - Friday
[09:51:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Update: Corinthian Colleges Will Sell Half its Campuses to Nonprofit Loan Servicer - http://sylnt.us - fine-Corinthian-education
[10:03:40] <crutchy_> .blackfriday tld? really?
[10:05:09] <chromas> I thought everything was a tld now
[10:05:33] <crutchy_> fsckng ICANN't rip people off enough
[10:05:53] <chromas> soylent.ctl
[10:06:31] <crutchy_> .goatsecx
[10:08:39] <crutchy_> http://ilike.goatsecx
[10:08:39] <NetCruft> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[10:08:56] <crutchy_> aw cmon work with me NetCruft
[10:10:44] <crutchy_> http://poke.konomi
[10:10:45] <NetCruft> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[10:14:08] <crutchy_> I went and saw imax today with family but it was a 3d thing. my eyes cant to the 3d thing so I put my sunnies on to dim the brightness so I could have a snooze
[10:14:45] <crutchy_> I found out my sunnies cancelled the 3d effect. so I was able to watch the movie
[10:15:07] <crutchy_> must have polarising filters or some shit
[10:16:45] <crutchy_> sucks only being able to see out one eye at a time :/
[10:19:35] <crutchy_> ++coffee
[10:19:35] <NetCruft> Karma - coffee: 74
[10:20:03] <crutchy_> =karma coffee
[10:20:03] <NetCruft> Karma - coffee: 74
[10:20:17] <crutchy_> =whoup coffee
[10:20:25] <chromas> space
[10:20:29] <chromas> =who up coffee
[10:20:29] <NetCruft> coffee: chromas, crutchy, crutchy_
[10:20:34] <crutchy_> ah
[10:20:36] <chromas> :)
[10:20:43] <chromas> gotta be different :D
[10:20:48] <Konomi> brrmm brrrm
[10:20:49] <crutchy_> chromas++
[10:20:49] <Bender> karma - chromas: 54
[10:21:24] * crutchy_ wants what konomi is smoking
[10:21:37] <chromas> probably caffeine
[10:21:57] <crutchy_> true
[10:22:13] <crutchy_> shakes maybe
[10:22:24] <chromas> the get shakes
[10:23:22] <crutchy_> I get shakes after a lot of caffiene
[10:25:33] <crutchy_> drove to brisbane in 36 or so hrs with nodoze every 4 hrs. was very shaky after that
[10:26:05] <Konomi> just caffeine ~
[10:27:40] <chromas> using a pipe, or?
[10:28:15] <crutchy_> intraveinous
[10:29:05] <crutchy_> or by enima
[10:29:18] <chromas> that would be pipe
[10:29:50] <crutchy_> yeah I guess it would. or hose
[10:30:01] <crutchy_> dunno ive never had one
[10:30:18] <chromas> I was thinking buttpipe
[10:30:19] <chromas> :)
[10:31:22] <chromas> ( | ) + |
[10:31:23] <Konomi> I sniff the powder
[10:31:27] <crutchy_> it would be some shitty coffee
[10:31:54] <crutchy_> I love sniffing a freshly opened jar
[10:32:06] <chromas> from the pew dept
[10:32:54] <crutchy_> thats why Im not a churchgoer. its full of pews
[10:56:58] <ar> i saw Interstellar twice in the cinema so far
[10:57:13] <ar> oh
[10:57:29] <ar> crutchy_: you were talking about interstellar, right?
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[11:46:10] <Alberto> Funtoo/Gentoo Gnome 3 non-systemd
[11:46:11] <Alberto> :D
[11:46:12] <Alberto> http://forums.funtoo.org
[11:46:13] <NetCruft> ^ 03GNOME 3.12 is HERE... - News and Announcements - Funtoo Linux
[11:47:19] * chromas gives g'nome the raspberry
[11:49:01] <Alberto> ~gnight
[11:49:02] <Alberto> :D
[11:49:54] <chromas> g'night
[11:49:56] <chromas> poor exec
[12:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:05:53] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9920
[12:08:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ;klingon coffee
[12:08:03] <botctl> TheMightyBuzzard: qa'vIn ()
[12:08:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> aq'vIn++
[12:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, just as well. fingers not working right yet
[12:31:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mathematicians Study Effects of Gerrymandering on 2012 Election - http://sylnt.us - I-choose-you!
[12:39:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ar, I take it you find it worth seeing? I'm still on the fence about bothering.
[12:45:45] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: IMO it's awesome
[12:45:57] <ar> TheMightyBuzzard: one of the best scifi movies lately
[12:47:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... not a J.J. Abrams-esque film then?
[13:26:03] <Leebert> I <3 Black Friday commuting.
[13:35:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> Leebert, I sense you're going to make great use of our <sarcasm> tags after the next site update.
[13:40:48] <Leebert> No, no, I'm quite serious. Probably 10% of DC is actually working today, which makes the commute an absolute breeze.
[13:41:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll be damned
[13:41:02] <Leebert> I always make it a point to go to work on Black Friday for that reason. It's nice.
[13:41:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> goes without saying the politicians and most of their staffers are home
[13:42:54] <Leebert> Yep.
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[13:45:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin, LaminatorX
[13:45:20] <LaminatorX> Hello there.
[13:45:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> good thing ya stopped by, we're runnin kinda low in the queued stories dept.
[13:46:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> figured we'd be kinda slow on the post-turkey friday
[13:46:58] <LaminatorX> Yeah, I ran a few over breakfast, and now I'm in the office. There are three people here.
[13:47:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> quiet day then. you might even be able to get some work done without being disturbed.
[13:49:52] <LaminatorX> This is actually my last day working on commercials. I transfer to another dept next week. More money, my old boss who is like a brother to me, and not watching 60-100 commercials each day. Ahhhh.
[13:50:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Devuan Developers Can Be Reached Via vua@debianfork.org - http://sylnt.us - and-so-it-begins
[13:52:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> awesome, grats. i think i might go mad trying to watch that many commercials on purpose.
[13:52:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> well more mad anyway.
[13:54:36] <LaminatorX> Some have a certain charm, but most are just more of the same. I will miss Shaq the most. Between Buic, Gold Bond, and Icey Hot, it was like he had the desk next door..
[13:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Honestly, i have very little idea what you're talking about aside from Shaq being generally amusing. I watch like half an hour of TV a day that isn't pirated for the express purpose of not having to see commercials.
[13:59:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> Makes me wonder why I keep paying Dish every month at times.
[14:00:15] * Konomi releases the howler monkeys into the channel
[14:00:27] <LaminatorX> Shaq does a lot of endorsements. Some days his face will grace my monitor 10+ times. The Buick ones are a hoot. They show Shaq with the mid-sized sedan, they show Shaq in the mid-sized sedan. At not time do they show the contortions required to get Mr. Oneal in or out of a mid-sized sedan.
[14:01:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Konomi, you should try something we'd notice.
[14:01:51] <Konomi> you wouldn't notice howler monkeys?
[14:02:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> in this channel?
[14:02:11] <Konomi> touche ~
[14:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> too many regulars could easily be mistaken for one =P
[14:02:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> including the poop flinging.
[14:04:10] <LaminatorX> Hoo Hoo Hoo HOo Hoo Houuuu Hoo Hoo Hoouuu
[14:04:42] <Konomi> note to self replace minions
[14:05:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> try rabid weasels
[14:05:59] <Konomi> maybe hairy hampsters
[14:06:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody can miss one of those going up their trousers leg
[14:06:16] <LaminatorX> http://www.bbspot.com
[14:06:17] <NetCruft> ^ 03BBspot - Linux Kernel Delayed By Microsoft's Army of Evil Monkeys
[14:07:00] * LaminatorX is slightly worried that he remembers bbspot srticles from 14 years ago.
[14:07:06] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[14:07:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't be worse than me remembering individual pictures from bbs days
[14:11:43] <LaminatorX> Here ya go, Konomi - http://i.kinja-img.com (SFW if silly comic panels are SFW)
[14:12:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> was one named buttwrench.jpg that had this larry bird looking guy smiling and pointing at an open-end wrench sticking out of a female backside
[14:12:17] <Konomi> vexing rodents are go
[14:12:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, squirrel girl pwnz
[14:13:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> she whooped Doom, Thanos, even Deadpool
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[15:11:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - City Passes Historic Retail Workers Bill of Rights - http://sylnt.us - power-concedes-nothing-without-a-demand
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[15:59:27] <Leebert> There ya go, a submission to help with the drought.
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[16:05:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> I'm fully expecting it to be slow news through the weekend aside from black friday news and we don't much cover that.
[16:08:55] <juggs> o.O /kickban *!*@*
[16:09:01] <juggs> dAMN
[16:10:00] <juggs> TheMightyBuzzard, new BOFH http://www.theregister.co.uk
[16:10:01] <NetCruft> ^ 03BOFH: Everyone deserves a little DOWNTIME • The Register
[16:10:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> ooooh, thought that wasn't out till thursday
[16:10:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh saturday
[16:10:48] <juggs> yah - landed early for some reason ~shrug~
[16:11:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> score, i was getting bored
[16:24:05] <Leebert> You can write some risk assessments for me. That's in NO WAY boring. I assure you, it's exciting and fascinating work!
[16:24:59] <Leebert> Would that I were as good at that as Tom Sawyer.
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[16:38:43] <chromas> 225 people in #debianfork. That's more than we had, right?
[16:39:01] <juggs> I think my bouncer is lurking in there
[16:39:07] <Leebert> Sigh.
[16:39:18] <chromas> And forking /. was way more important
[16:39:39] <Leebert> You know, I was at lunch with a debian developer friend of mine... He seemed to reinforce my views on the whole thing.
[16:40:12] <Leebert> To wit: Systemd sucks, but it's not like Debian is going to be rejecting patches that fix any bogus systemd dependencies.
[16:40:42] <Leebert> So if you don't want unnecessary systemd dependencies, submit patches.
[16:40:43] <chromas> The fork guys all have various opinions on systemd
[16:41:15] <chromas> I think the most common thing is the butthurt
[16:41:43] <chromas> Kind of like us re dice :)
[16:41:45] <Leebert> I think if it were just this one thing with systemd and Debian, the butthurt would be limited.
[16:42:51] <chromas> butthurtctl
[16:43:07] <Leebert> But in recent years there's been so much of this stuff happening that, when one of the last islands of respite from the insanity started to move in the same direction, the stage was set for a "violent" reaction.
[16:43:19] <chromas> One of the man pages I read seemed to imply that ctl means commandline tool
[16:43:42] <juggs> uch - reconnect to freenode bouncer after a few days - receive avalanche of scrollback
[16:44:01] <chromas> I thought those had a limit
[16:44:15] <chromas> Yours must be huge
[16:44:20] <juggs> depends what limits you set :D
[16:44:31] <chromas> Though that's not what your wife told me
[16:44:41] <juggs> I have a wife?
[16:45:55] <chromas> for the joke. Except you're a nerd on the internet. It's confusing
[16:46:57] <chromas> The other thing is systemd's tentacles are in things like gnome because gnome added them. That's not a distro issue
[16:47:15] <chromas> gnome--
[16:47:15] <Bender> karma - gnome: -3
[16:48:35] <chromas> Leebert: if you didn't know, they seem to be focusing their efforts on a distro called devuan
[16:48:42] <juggs> tea++ #need refill
[16:48:42] <Bender> karma - tea: 278
[16:49:17] <Leebert> chromas: yeah, I saw that.
[16:49:41] <Leebert> For the moment, I'm going to give Debian the benefit of the doubt.
[16:50:09] <chromas> They should all switch to arch 😁
[16:50:35] <Leebert> If I finally decide that I truly dislike systemd, and if it does end up becoming impossible to not install, I'll consider stop using Debian.
[16:50:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Independent.co.uk & Several Other Websites Hacked by Syrian Electronic Army - http://sylnt.us - electronic-warfare
[16:52:03] <Leebert> I'm much more concerned about the inability to find any good hardware anymore.
[16:52:06] <Leebert> Laptops, specifically.
[16:52:20] <Leebert> I honestly don't know what I'm going to do when my current ThinkPad dies.
[16:52:36] <Leebert> And smartphones... ugh.
[16:52:48] <chromas> I've been using systemd for a couple years at least. No problems, though it's only personally use
[16:53:36] <Leebert> Yeah. My friend's opinion largely follows mine on it. It sucks, especially if you need to debug a booting problem.
[16:53:50] <Leebert> Except, nobody really does that anymore in a production environment.
[16:54:03] <Leebert> It stops booting, you shrug and blow a new image on it.
[16:54:09] <chromas> A lot of laptops' quality is like alienware or something now
[16:54:25] <Leebert> I'll check that out.
[16:54:47] <chromas> Oh, I meant they suck
[16:54:51] <Leebert> I'm super bummed though because for years, both my work and personal computers were ThinkPads. So I have ThinkPad chargers *everywhere*.
[16:55:06] <Leebert> If it weren't pitiful, I'd have one in my bathroom even. :)
[16:55:49] <Leebert> But thanks to Frank Wolf, my agency doesn't buy ThinkPads anymore because OMG CHINAZ!!!
[16:56:14] <Leebert> and they've been sufficiently "Apple Me Too"ed to make them undesirable for personal use.
[16:56:34] <Leebert> So the era of seamless roaming computing in my life has died.
[16:56:48] <chromas> My dad had a something or another laptop which had the fan crap out. When he opened it up, it turned out the clip thing for the keyboard was broken and the ribbon was half-assedly taped into place
[16:57:43] <chromas> Also, chiclet keyboards look retarded
[16:57:59] <Leebert> Honestly, the chiclet doesn't really bother me.
[16:58:13] <Leebert> But Lenovo went full dumbass on the layout.
[16:58:24] <chromas> I haven't used them much. I mostly have them for their look
[16:58:31] <chromas> Hate
[16:58:44] <Leebert> Because vertically oriented functions like "pg up" and "pg dn" totally should be horizontally oriented on the keyboard.
[16:59:16] <Leebert> I don't look at my keyboard. That's half the problem of the arbitrary layout changes. :)
[17:00:15] <chromas> There's always dell 😁
[17:00:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> the problem with keyboard layout changes should be that it gets the person who changed the layout kicked somewhere gender-specific until they die.
[17:01:16] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: Yeah, basically. :)
[17:01:31] <Leebert> To be honest, I'm not really opposed to changing the legacy keyboard layout. I'm really not.
[17:02:00] <Leebert> BUT, if it needs to be done, it should be changed to a new standardized layout.
[17:02:01] <chromas> I hate those rearranged 6-key blocks on desktop keyboards where they delete the insert key and stack them vertically
[17:02:19] <Leebert> I don't mind an ISO standard or something for it.
[17:02:45] <chromas> Need more f keys too
[17:02:53] <Leebert> But jacking with a computer geek's muscle memory is a great way to raise their wrath.
[17:03:19] <Leebert> Although chromas's comment does remind me of the Homer Simpson designed car... "there's not enough horn buttons!"
[17:03:41] <Leebert> I suppose a redesigned-by-committee keyboard might very well be an atrocity.
[17:04:23] <chromas> The gnome keyboard would be just like that apple parody one with one key
[17:04:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd rather a stable and universal atrocity than brilliant but ever-changing layouts
[17:04:51] <chromas> Or no keys. Too complicated. It should just type sensible defaults
[17:05:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, it's not like qwerty is remotely the best layout but pretty much all of us still use it.
[17:05:57] <Leebert> http://dilbert.com ?
[17:05:58] <NetCruft> ^ 03Dilbert comic strip for 03/25/1995 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive.
[17:06:37] <Leebert> TheMightyBuzzard: ye.s, exactly. One of my sysadmin principles was: "Be consistent, even if you're consistently incorrect."
[17:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[17:07:10] <chromas> ^ consistent nodding
[17:07:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> like our rss feed links come in as &from=rss
[17:07:16] <chromas> :D
[17:08:03] <chromas> Why? Seems like that would be a string literal attached
[17:08:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> which i did not fix because it would screw up any regex used to sift through logs
[17:09:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, something in the rss libs doesn't know wtf it's doing
[17:09:48] <chromas> Ooh, they say we're the most reliable source of systemd news
[17:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> who says?
[17:10:20] <chromas> Someone in #debianfork
[17:10:43] <chromas> One person is "they" now
[17:10:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that's fine then
[17:10:54] <chromas> inflation++
[17:10:54] <Bender> karma - inflation: 1
[17:11:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> #debianfork is our brother in rebellion
[17:11:40] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: is that a slash lib?
[17:11:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i wish. if it were i would have long since fixed it.
[17:12:15] <chromas> Sometimes it seems like slash is one of those cars that perpetually needs worked on
[17:12:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth. the issues queue does nothing but grow.
[17:12:44] <chromas> Can you fork the lib?
[17:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly but i'm not gonna at this point. not enough bang for the buck.
[17:13:08] <chromas> Time to port pipecode to perl
[17:13:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw dat. i like my code to be time-tested for security and reliability.
[17:14:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> reliably quirky but reliable
[17:14:40] <chromas> Reliability
[17:15:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i don't gotta wonder if something needs db quoted if i use existing slash abstractions. it doesn't.
[17:16:16] <chromas> Each change seems to be a Rube Goldberg machine of adjustments :)
[17:16:46] <chromas> Like unicode. The second time around
[17:16:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> can be, yep.
[17:17:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> that was a pretty epic change though.
[17:17:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of em are just finding the one small place to put in or change a line of code though.
[17:18:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> even the filters work is pretty low on changes. mostly it's nothing but finding where to make very small changes.
[17:18:46] <chromas> You guys should rename the code though. Buzzcode or something
[17:19:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, maybe after it's had a couple years to get its own identity.
[17:19:25] <chromas> Slasha-Cola Classic
[17:20:08] <chromas> Its own identity is that it works now :)
[17:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> gamma
[17:20:22] <chromas> Lol
[17:20:23] <ciri> lol damn!
[17:20:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> on account of > beta
[17:21:51] <chromas> Quick, throw in some js to add falling snowflakes
[17:22:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> think i'm gonna actually
[17:22:11] <juggs> is it christmas already?
[17:22:31] <Leebert> Oh, please no.
[17:22:39] <chromas> An animated gif logo with snow on top
[17:22:58] <Leebert> I recently finally took the step of re-blacklisting Wikipedia in NoScript, don't make me do it to Soylent too!
[17:23:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> not the snowflakes but to move mousewheel focus back to the entire page onclick of a moderation dropdown
[17:23:25] <chromas> Leebert: if you don't run js then the site won't load >:)
[17:23:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> so when you go to scroll, it doesn't change the moderation but scrolls the page
[17:23:53] * Leebert has many sads since I even used to donate to Wikipedia. They've gone from getting voluntary financial support to actively being defended against.
[17:24:22] <chromas> #wikipediafork
[17:24:36] <Leebert> I'd support that.
[17:24:55] <Leebert> The WMF is clearly solidly following the Mozilla Foundation out into the deep end.
[17:25:14] <chromas> deletionists minus minus
[17:25:58] <Leebert> Except in the case of Wikipedia it's even worse, since the VAST VAST majority of the value of Wikimedia projects is provided by volunteers.
[17:26:20] <Leebert> At least in Mozilla world, the vast majority of the code is developed and maintained by paid contributors.
[17:26:53] <chromas> We can start a fork. NCommander will pay for the hosting :D
[17:27:40] <chromas> Also, soylentzilla
[17:27:57] <Leebert> Cool; I'll write some Javascript that will beg for money and dance around the screen when you try to close it.
[17:28:33] <juggs> we need a flash movie intro too
[17:28:49] <Leebert> Then we can all take a trip on our donation-financed corporate jet while we continue to tell sob stories about how we need money to continue paying for hosting and servers.
[17:29:45] <Leebert> We'll justify the vacation by visiting a "UX" conference in some exotic location where we'll learn how to decrease information density to pointless levels.
[17:29:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll be happy if we hit a year's worth of hosting costs before someone has to pay out of their pocket again.
[17:30:03] <chromas> juggs: can you do a melodramatic voiceover for it?
[17:30:18] <chromas> In a world where blah blah
[17:30:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> I think like 25 more subscribers would do it
[17:31:48] <chromas> Set up a san where we each contribute a few gb of storage from our home networks
[17:32:25] <chromas> I'll host the dancing monkey flash intro
[17:33:01] <chromas> Punch the (howler) monkey
[17:33:22] <Leebert> Oh, that would be awesome!
[17:33:43] <Leebert> We need to load a little snippet of JavaScript from everyone's contributed storage.
[17:33:48] <juggs> \o/ another mention on #debianfork
[17:34:03] <Leebert> Which absolutely must each be hosted on a different domain.
[17:35:49] <Leebert> Hmm. If Devuan is recruiting maintainers, maybe I could score an easy-peasy package to maintain.
[17:36:47] <chromas> :| since when is nerdrpg a player in nerdrpg
[17:37:11] <chromas> I fought the game and the game won
[17:38:52] <chromas> Or "bot" so it's closer to a rhyme
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[18:21:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - American Ranking Plummets in Global Index of Personal Freedoms - http://sylnt.us - land-of-the-free-ish
[18:37:19] <LaminatorX> Go for "ls" Leebert.
[18:51:17] <Leebert> Funny you say that. I was talking to one of my debian developer friends many years ago and made a snide comment along the lines of: "I would love to be the maintainer of /bin/true; that's gotta be easy." He looked at me and retorted: "I *am* the maintainer of /bin/true."
[18:51:40] <Leebert> Both /bin/ls and /bin/true are in coreutils, hence the reminder. :)
[18:52:17] <JamesNZ> Why does /bin/true exist? Seems kinda useless.
[18:52:38] <JamesNZ> (and /bin/false)
[18:52:40] <Leebert> As I recall he also pointed out that /bin/true wasn't as simple of a program as you would think, since being a GNU program it had to support all sorts of things like localization and mandatory switches like "--help" and "--version"
[18:53:10] <Leebert> JamesNZ: To have a program that always exits successfully? :)
[18:53:33] <JamesNZ> But... why??
[18:54:12] <Leebert> Well, like for example if you wanted an infinite loop... while true do something
[18:55:10] <Leebert> or you want to force the return code of a program to be ignored, you can call it || true
[18:55:37] <JamesNZ> Mmmmm'kay.
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[19:23:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Black Friday violence ERRYWHERE
[19:23:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Even Brits are doing it.
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[19:40:16] <Brylarke> Part of our campain to leave the EU and join the US
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[20:19:43] <crutchy_> ef, progressives are confusing it for some mlk thing and uprising against conservatives that heaven forbid mihht want to stop money printing. cant have that
[20:21:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EU to Raid Science Fund for Economic Investment - http://sylnt.us - easy-target
[20:57:42] <crutchy_> I fuck I gotta go to a voting place today
[20:58:18] <crutchy_> if only I had a choice. atm feels like one crook or another crook
[21:11:39] <crutchy_> wow just saw video of poms fighting for cheap tvs. are things really that desperate over there?
[21:29:49] <crutchy_> coffee++
[21:29:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9921
[21:29:59] <crutchy_> ++coffee
[21:29:59] <NetCruft> Karma - coffee: 75
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[22:55:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ #good nap
[22:55:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9922
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[23:21:34] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[23:21:34] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9921
[23:21:36] <JamesNZ> coffee--
[23:21:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9920
[23:21:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> JamesNZ-- #Heretic!
[23:21:51] <Bender> karma - jamesnz: -19
[23:22:24] <JamesNZ> coffee-- # Till the day I die!
[23:22:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 9919
[23:23:02] <JamesNZ> Moin' TheMightyBuzzard \o
[23:23:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin
[23:25:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> what sorta nonsense you up to today?
[23:27:06] <JamesNZ> Coding on my toy ILS.
[23:28:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> building a throne room in minecraft here. productivity is for the birds.
[23:28:49] * JamesNZ wags his finger disapprovingly
[23:29:49] <chromas> JamesNZ: which type of ils?
[23:30:23] <JamesNZ> chromas: Type?
[23:31:26] <chromas> ILS seems to expand to a lot of different things; maybe something about a library?
[23:31:50] <JamesNZ> Oh I see, yeah the library system.
[23:32:00] <chromas> heh, "Internet Love Scams"
[23:32:02] <chromas> neat
[23:33:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> instrument landing system
[23:33:44] <chromas> that's one I'd considered
[23:33:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> valid. lot of geeks do dig them a flight sim
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